[00:24] cnd: It probably needs a ping; I'm not aware of anything that needs doing on my end. [00:25] yeah, looks like it [00:26] I just pinged kees in case he could look at it [00:27] he's the only one that I know is in a reasonable timezone right now [00:30] RAOF, approved :) [00:31] Excellent. Now, we wait for the freeze to be lifted, then upload. [00:31] And by “upload”, I mean “upload an Xserver with a with build-depends on libgtest” [00:31] -xorg [00:31] yeah [08:07] is gesture support still broken in unity? [08:07] tseliot, hey [08:08] wouldn't know about gestures since I've no hw for it [08:09] hi eruditehermit [08:09] tseliot, I was told you were the person to talk with about fglrx and hybrid graphics. Can you help me? [08:10] eruditehermit: what's the problem? [08:10] tseliot, first of all, is hybrid graphics supported with the packages in precise? the new fglrx 12.3 release? [08:11] eruditehermit: not officially [08:11] I have always had more problems with the ubuntu packages than the ati packages from their site [08:11] eruditehermit: I maintain both and they share the same source [08:13] in order to make it work, I have to manually mess around with update-alternatives --config x86_64-linux-gnu_gl_conf [08:13] tseliot, so if I try to make it work with the ubuntu packages, I should have the same success as with the official packages? [08:15] eruditehermit: yes, I think so. It all depends on your laptop/BIOS [08:15] ok [08:15] are you around for a bit today? [08:15] can I restart and find out what was going wrong? [08:16] ideally I want to be able to use amdcccle to switch GPUs [08:20] tseliot, how does the xorg.conf work? [08:20] does the fglrx require it? [08:20] eruditehermit: it's all handled automatically [08:21] so if I install the package [08:21] I don't need to create it? [08:21] currently it doesn't exist [08:22] the server uses fglrx if it's installed [08:23] ok [08:23] well brb [08:28] tseliot, http://paste.ubuntu.com/903536/ [08:28] I installed fglrx, and now I have no 3D capabilities [08:30] intel wins :) [08:31] so my card requires both intel and fglrx to work with fglrx [08:31] since it is muxless [08:31] I've had it working in hte past sporadically and fglrx loads intel [08:31] no, you can disable the intel part [08:32] i think [08:32] nah [08:32] it requires it [08:32] then you can't use fglrx [08:32] hrm [08:33] I can [08:33] its worked in the past [08:33] i'll just shut up, haven't touched intel/ati hybrid myself.. [08:33] its tricky [08:33] not sure exactly what is going on ever [08:33] lol [08:34] brb [08:44] eruditehermit: unless you can set your AMD card as primary in the BIOS, I'm afraid you can't use hybrid graphics [08:44] ok [08:44] got it working [08:44] but I have to manually attack it [08:44] to get fglrx to play nice with my GPUs I have to [08:45] manually set x86_64-linux-gnu_gl_conf [08:45] and I have to have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf from fglrx [08:46] tseliot, is there a way to make it just work? [08:48] eruditehermit: are you sure it works? [08:48] tseliot, yep, fgl_glxears works [08:49] tseliot, also glxinfo says OpenGL vendor string: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [08:50] eruditehermit: and did you change anything in the BIOS? [08:50] nope [08:50] there are no GPU settings in the bios [08:50] I'm surprised it loaded the driver [08:51] my discrete GPU requires the intel GPU to be on [08:51] it uses the intel GPU for a mux [08:51] eruditehermit: I have a laptop with the same problem, I guess. If I can get it to work, as you say, I can probably make it just work ;) [08:52] ok [08:52] want to test it now? [08:52] I have a Sony VAIO SA 290x [08:53] 2011 [08:53] hmm [08:53] let me try with the iibgl alternative at auto [08:53] maybe it just needs an xorg.conf [08:53] brb [08:54] morning [09:02] tseliot, any luck? [09:02] eruditehermit: unfortunately I can't test it right now (I have some other work to do first) [09:03] tseliot, when I try to switch to intel GPU only, my window managers won't start for some reason [09:03] I have to switch to a VT [09:04] type DISPLAY=:0 gnome-shell --replace [09:04] and then it loads gnome-shell or unity or whatever [09:15] is there a place where unity or gnome-shell report why they didn't start properly? [10:08] tseliot, seems to be that if fglrx is installed and I set it to use the intel GPU. It initially uses the sw rasterizer. Unity and gnome shell get confused and crash. However if I start a gnome-shell from my VT later, it correctly sets the rasterizer to be the intel dri driver and it works [10:11] I don't think that's how it's supposed to work [10:15] for some reason it is failing to load my window managers the first time around [10:15] if I load fluxbox, it shows it is using the software tungstem llvm driver [10:16] however, if I load gnome-shell [10:16] it fails to load the wm [10:16] but then I can load it from my VT [10:20] hrm perhaps its my kernel? [10:20] brb [10:33] hiya [10:33] hiya [10:33] it seems my girlfriend has an interesting problem with keyboard layouts [10:33] and I'm wondering if you've seen anything like this before [10:34] 1 === wgrant_ is now known as wgrant [10:36] http://paste.ubuntu.com/903691/ [10:36] and the active layout is actually German [10:36] where else could I check if something is broken or set in a wrong way? [10:36] pitti sent me here :) [10:48] "setxkbmap no" seems to make it work, but after restarting the session it's gone again [11:35] ok, for now we resorted to filing this bug to keep track of the issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/967034? [11:35] Launchpad bug 967034 in gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) "Updating keymap information does have no effect" [Undecided,New] [14:07] tseliot: Nvidia posted a solution to their (cairo-gl triggered) memory usage problem, you were assigned the previous related bug, so thought you might be interested. Gah, copying and pasting on my girlfriend's ChromeBook is miserable. [14:08] Darxus: sorry, where? [14:10] tseliot: Bug 967149. [14:10] Launchpad bug 967149 in nvidia-graphics-drivers (Ubuntu) "Solution to Nvidia + cairo-gl memory problem proposed by Nvidia" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/967149 [14:11] Darxus: very interesting, I'll have a look at it, thanks [14:11] Awesome, thanks. [14:11] RAOF, Sarvatt ^ [14:12] There is a followup post from nvidia in that thread also. [14:12] good === yofel_ is now known as yofel [17:30] hey :) [17:35] heya mlankhorst [17:39] hello [17:47] bryceh, I want to use arsenal for creating utouch bug reports [17:47] I see you recently added a search for subscribers of bugs for distro tasks [17:47] I want the same, but for all tasks [17:48] I'm new to arsenal, so any pointers you can give are appreciated :) [17:48] hi cnd [17:49] cnd, actually that was someone else's patch which I merged [17:49] oh, ok [17:50] ahh, I see it's chris arges [17:50] I know him well :) [17:50] cnd, you can leave out distribution and instead specify the project(s) you want to pull from [17:50] bryceh, does arsenal support bug searching and reporting for non-distro tasks? [17:51] yeah see the hwe reports for example [17:51] * bryceh -> breakfast [17:51] bryceh, do you know if the timeouts we see when using launchpad.net will also occur using arsenal? [18:04] cnd, unfortunately launchpad is flaky like that even at the api layer. [18:04] cnd, you might not get those time outs, but there are various other issues that can crop up [18:04] ok [18:23] bryceh, I'm having a hard time understanding the lplib api [18:23] cnd, join the crowd :-) [18:23] I know there are http methods documented here: https://launchpad.net/+apidoc/1.0.html [18:24] but I don't know how to map an http method to an arsenal or launchpadlib method [18:24] for example, I want to get all the tasks by doing searchTasks on a person [18:25] how do I follow the toolkits and libraries to figure out what python code to call? [18:25] cnd, ok here is a simple place to start [18:25] apt-get source python-launchpadlib-toolkit [18:25] cd into the scripts directory [18:25] look at ls-assigned-bugs [18:26] that's a very trivial implementation of one single LP call, but shows how to use searchTasks [18:26] ls-series in the same dir is a slightly more sophisticated example, look at that one next [18:27] bryceh, what's the upstream project for that package? [18:27] cnd, arsenal [18:27] hmm.. why do I not see scripts/ls-assigned-bugs in lp:arsenal? [18:28] cnd, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~arsenal-devel/arsenal/python-launchpadlib-toolkit/files/head:/scripts/ [18:29] oh, I'm in the wrong scripts directory [18:29] yes, it needs to be moved out into it's own project rather than be a branch of arsenal [18:29] some day... [18:29] oh, it's a *branch* of arsenal... [18:32] hmm... I want to call searchTasks without specifying the project or distro... [18:33] I think you have to do one or the other [18:33] however, you could retrieve a list of all projects and distros and then iterate over those, calling searchTasks on each and building a collection [18:34] might take a while to run... ;-) [18:35] the http api seems to show that it's possible [18:35] I need to figure out how to code it though [18:41] cnd, ls-team-subscribed-packages.py shows how to get a person (aka team) object. You can then call searchTasks() on it [18:41] I'll try it [18:55] bryceh, well, I think I'm trying to search for all bugs subscribed by utouch-bugs :) [18:55] it's taking a while and just sitting there... [18:56] I assume if I did it wrong I would get an immediate error [18:56] hmm, 503: Service Unavailable [18:57] timeout error [18:57] so I guess this doesn't let us get around the timeout [18:59] cnd, can't say I didn't warn you upfront. ;-) [18:59] yeah [18:59] it was worth a shot [19:00] cnd, I do wish they had a different timeout setting for command line apps than for the web [19:00] cnd, often with those time outs the problem is that you're retrieving too much data in one go. [19:00] cnd, there's a trick I know of to batch it up... dunno if it'd make any difference though. hang on [19:01] in this case, they just have a backend sql query that takes too long [19:01] s/batch it up/parcel it out/ [19:01] ah, yeah then in that case you're just screwed [19:03] cnd, what I was thinking of is in the Collection section on https://help.launchpad.net/API/launchpadlib [19:04] cnd, you can retrieve just a fixed number of items, so if the problem was just too much data, that might help in dividing it into smaller chunks that would not trip the time out [19:04] ok [19:04] however I don't think that'd do the trick here. might be worth trying, dunno [19:05] I think we'll stick to all bugs in specific projects and ubuntu packages, and add in all tasks of ubuntu packages that are directly subscribed by the utouch-bugs team [19:05] both of those (usually) work without timing out [19:05] cnd, *nod* makes sense === yofel_ is now known as yofel [19:45] does ppa-purge with xorg-edgers and precise? I discovered I had that ppa enabled and don't want it anymore and ppa-purge created a list of 550 things for me to review [19:47] bdmurray, I've not heard anything about it not working. but 550 things sounds a bit excessive [19:49] is there some other way to get back to precise besides ppa-purge? [19:55] bdmurray: ppa-purge doesn't work with multiarch if you're on amd64 [19:55] basically you want to apt-get install package/precise for every package you have installed from edgers, dpkg -l then grep sarvatt or ricotz or edgers to find them all [19:55] http://paste.ubuntu.com/904473/ should be most of it [19:56] (after disabling the ppa and doing an apt-get update) [19:57] Sarvatt: ah, yep I'm on amd64 [20:00] removing wine1.4 first helps [20:43] boas