[00:00] <_r00t_> anthalamus: sshfs ?
[00:01] <warrior__> the version of wubi is optimal or for 64 bit that for 32 bit?
[00:01] <mdel> _r00t_: i would just use vim, but I really like sublime :)
[00:01] <mdel> i like the filebrowser... sick of nerdtree
[00:04] <_r00t_> mdel yup.... I use the same method to tunnel to all my nix machines... It's great to see synaptic tunnel back to my windows machine :)
[00:06] <scottj> does deleting files off a second drive move them to the main drive in order to put them in the trash?
[00:06] <Orcris> Is it possible to increase the size of the persistance file on a live USB?
[00:06] <anthropos> yes you do it when you make the usb disk
[00:06] <anthropos> or do you mean after the fact?
[00:06] <Orcris> I mean after I make it.
[00:07] <wiseguy12851> i need help, my apache2 server no longer starts
[00:07] <anthropos> Orcris: i don't know, but surely it's not that hard just to remake it
[00:07] <phpN00b> wiseguy12851, look at the logs
[00:07] <phpN00b> wiseguy12851, what is the error message?
[00:07] <jrib> wiseguy12851: you should provide details.  Did it ever start?  What has changed since then?  What exactly happens now?
[00:08] <wiseguy12851> it says unable to open logs
[00:08] <wiseguy12851> couldn ot open log
[00:09] <phpN00b> wiseguy12851, probably a permission problem
[00:09] <wiseguy12851> thnx, I have an idea
[00:09] <phpN00b> wiseguy12851, check the permissions of the logs
[00:09] <wiseguy12851> I have a custom site setup and I changed directories around forgetting to update the new lof file location
[00:11] <wiseguy12851> thnx, restated fine now
[00:11] <mdel> _r00t_: ever try sshfs?
[00:11] <waxstone> _r00t_, No trash enters hidden folder on same drive but trash from all drives show in trash bin
[00:20] <ubntu1> hello?
[00:21] <sent> hi
[00:21] <ubntu1> can you help me with my video card drivers?
[00:21] <ubntu1> i cant install them
[00:21] <ubntu1> i think its because im in nomodeset mode
[00:21] <ubntu1> but i get blackscreen when i try to run ubuntu without it
[00:22] <pyr0> what kind of video card do you have?
[00:22] <ubntu1> an amd and intel
[00:22] <ubntu1> i ahve a laptop with the whole catalyst control bs with chaneable graphics cards
[00:23] <pyr0> i think catalyst is an ATI thing, have you tried their website for a linux driver?
[00:23] <ubntu1> yeah
[00:24] <ubntu1> i download the latest one and the install says i have to uninstall my previous installation but i dont have any installed
[00:24] <ubntu1> and the intel website auto driver detector just gives me errors and cant find my drivers
[00:24] <sheenzz> my pc wont updated
[00:25] <ubntu1> when i go to system settings and go to additional driver the ATI/AMD proprietary drivers FGLRX appears but when i click acticate i get an error
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> ubntu1: what video chip are you using?
[00:25] <ubntu1> idk
[00:25] <ubntu1> how do i check
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> ubntu1: lspci | grep -i vga
[00:26] <ubntu1>  VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[00:27] <ubntu1> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc NI Whistler [AMD Radeon HD 6600M Series]
[00:27] <ubntu1> ActionParsnip:  VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[00:27] <ubntu1> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc NI Whistler [AMD Radeon HD 6600M Series]
[00:27] <dlentz> i hate how jockey/Additional Drivers tricks hybrid graphics users into thinking they should install proprietary drivers (and then they end up with no X)
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> ubntu1: oh, that switchable video chip stuff?
[00:31] <ubntu1> yeah
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> ubntu1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics
[00:31] <boxbeatsy> hi, i'm very confused.  why would the same version of whois (5.0.11) return different information on ubuntu 10.04 and 11?
[00:32] <sheenzz> hey
[00:32] <dlentz> you should remove every trace of Catalyst/fglrx and just be happy that your intel card works
[00:32] <sheenzz> chromium slows down me pc
[00:32] <sheenzz> *my
[00:33]  * dlentz thought sheenzz was irish for a second
[00:33] <dlentz> sheenzz, just when it's running?
[00:33] <ubntu1> ActionParsnip: so uhh, what exactly do i do with that? heh. im a complete linux-tard
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> ubntu1: hybrid graphics are a pain in Linux
[00:34] <dlentz> ubntu1, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/FglrxInteferesWithRadeonDriver#Problem:__Need_to_fully_remove_-fglrx_and_reinstall_-ati_from_scratch
[00:34] <dlentz> oh, and remember to delete/move your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:35] <ubntu1> what?
[00:35] <ubntu1> lol
[00:35] <dlentz> run the commands in the link and then: sudo mv/etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.bak
[00:35] <pyr0> anyone know of a good audio recorder that will only record when it detects sound?
[00:38] <Fudge> trying to install a lucid to usb but the usb does not boot, machines is usb bootable and the usb is bootable in gparted, is it true that fat32 should be used or can i continue with ext4
[00:38] <matt2000> Anyone know how to set-up LXC containers with a static IP address, allowing two external network access?
[00:41] <dlentz> Fudge, try it with FAT, and if it works, then you know why the usb wouldn't boot..
[00:43] <ubntu1> dlentz: i got this libgl1-mesa-dri					install
[00:43] <ubntu1> libgl1-mesa-glx					install
[00:43] <ubntu1> after ran all scripts
[00:44]  * pyr0 missed IRC
[00:45] <zhxk> hello, how to install fsck.ntfs
[00:49] <newnick> ubuntu minimal on virtualbox no can do ?
[00:49] <hank__> hi
[00:49] <Num83rGuy> I set up KDE's file sharing (samba) But the windows machene asks for user and pass when I put mine in it says fail.
[00:50] <compdoc> Num83rGuy, which version of windows?
[00:50] <Num83rGuy> 7
[00:50] <compdoc> I think you have to modify the registry on the win7 machne
[00:51] <Num83rGuy> Really? Got a URL?
[00:51] <hank__> No I believe Win7 has a GUI option in network and sharing center
[00:51] <thesheff17> yea you should have to modify the registry...that is the point of samba the smb protocol.
[00:51] <hank__> which determines if only homegroup users or everyone with an account can login
[00:51] <thesheff17> *should not
[00:52] <ActionParsnip> zhxk: I believe itsin ntfsprogs
[00:52] <compdoc> Num83rGuy, hmmm, sorry, its a security policy setting
[00:52] <hank__> btw how is it hangin' with Unity UI? being in KDEland all time
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> Num83rGuy: run:  sudo smbpasswd -a $USER   you can then log on as your user with the password you set
[00:53] <zhxk> well, dpkg was interrupt
[00:53] <compdoc> Num83rGuy, this is one site:    http://yonitg.com/solution-for-windows-7-samba-connection-problem/
[00:53] <Num83rGuy> Should the  $USER part be my user name or left as is?
[00:54] <compdoc> LM and NTLM – use NTLMV2 session security if negotiated
[00:54] <SolarisBoy> it should result in your username
[00:54] <SolarisBoy> its an environment variable
[00:54] <Num83rGuy> Ah, OK thanks.
[00:55] <compdoc> I had to do that to get my win7 machine to log in
[00:55] <eph3meral> anyone know much about how ubuntu and specifically xfce and or the display manager (gdm?) handles sound muting and unmuting? when I log in to ubuntu the sound icon in the top right of my screen says my sound is muted, which it is, until I plug in my headphones
[00:55] <eph3meral> moral of the story
[00:56] <eph3meral> is I get no sound out of my speakers, except, I have to make sure that on first login on boot, I make sure to "unmute" my sound before I log in
[00:56] <compdoc> this is another site:   http://ethanwolkowicz.net/wiki/index.php/Map_samba_share_in_windows_7
[00:56] <eph3meral> then my speakers work fine... has anyone else encountered this?
[00:56] <eph3meral> i have been googling forever and nothing on stackoverflow or ubuntuforums seems to match
[00:56] <eph3meral> i've gone through all the steps in the troubleshooting section of the sound page on help.ubuntu.com
[00:56] <Num83rGuy> Whoo hoo it works.
[00:56] <Num83rGuy> Thank you.
[00:57] <eph3meral> and none of those problems seem to apply, my kernel driver is installed, i've got a block device for the card under /dev
[00:57] <eph3meral> how would I find out which display manager i'm using/is running?
[00:58] <smw> Hi all, how can I unmount a busy drive? sudo fuser -m /dev/sdb1 is showing no information
[00:59] <FernandoCueva> I'm trying everything I can to mount this floppy drive that's 1.68MB size and I can't do it nothing's on the target directory I'm using the command sudo mount /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy/ -t vfat -o ro,user,noauto,exec,utf8  -  at least it could identify the floppy was to read only
[00:59] <pyr0> @eph3meral    probably not the best way but try  ps -ef | grep 'gdm'     # or lightdm or whatever other dm
[01:00] <DynamicFail_> Is there a way to take a com port I have attached to my ubuntu box make it seem like it is a local com port on my windows laptop over ip? something like a tunnel over ip?
[01:01] <eph3meral> pyr0, yeh I thought of that
[01:01] <cupps> Anyone know how to migrate from wl to brcmsmac in 10.04 with the 3.0 kernel? I upgraded to 3.0, and wl stopped working and while brcmsmas shows under "lsmod", it doesn't seem to work either.
[01:01] <eph3meral> so it looks like I'm running lightdm
[01:03] <AaronMT>  !warty
[01:03] <pyr0> @ eph3meral     /etc/X11/default-display-manager:/usr/sbin/lightdm
[01:04] <pyr0> from grep -R 'lightdm' /etc/X11/
[01:06] <pyr0> I could be wrong but I think it switched from gdm to lightdm with unity
[01:06] <IHateHavingToReg> Okay this is a pretty dumb question. I'm screwing around with Perl and it can't find Suchandsuch.pm. Well I "find" Suchandsuch.pm and it exists, but it's not in the @INC. So what is the "best" way to handle it? Move Suchandsuch.pm into the @INC directories, or add the directory Suchandsuch.pm into @INC? If the latter, how do I do that?
[01:08] <pyr0> can't you just 'use /path/to/module.pm'?
[01:08] <IHateHavingToReg> oh yeah i probably can
[01:08] <pyr0> I gotten perl-retarded since I started using python more but I think you can.
[01:08] <pyr0> *I've
[01:09] <IHateHavingToReg> where do i put the quotes
[01:09] <IHateHavingToReg> it doesn't like quotes around the path
[01:09] <matt2000> pyr0, No, I think "I gotten perl-retarded" is the correct phrase. ;-)
[01:10] <pyr0> i don't think you need the quotes, but again, I'm not entirely sure that works
[01:10] <IHateHavingToReg> okay, plan b
[01:10] <pyr0> matt2000, yeah...
[01:10] <IHateHavingToReg> how do i add the directory to @INC?
[01:11] <_r00t_> IHateHavingToReg: BEGIN { push or something } but this is frowned upon
[01:11] <IHateHavingToReg> wait if /dir/ is in @INC, is /dir/sub/ also in @INC?
[01:13] <songxk> Hello everyone
[01:13] <songxk> Who can help me to solve a problem
[01:13] <_r00t_> IHateHavingToReg: push @INC, "/_r00t_/custom_libs"; at the top of the script ...
[01:13] <songxk> I want to use 'sudo tasksel install lamp-server' to install lamp eve^
[01:14] <matt2000> songxk, don't ask to ask, just ask. If someone knows and has time to answer, they will.
[01:14] <songxk> ok
[01:14] <pyr0> via google: use lib "directory_path/more_path"; use Foo.pm;  # In directory path/more_path
[01:17] <matt2000> songxk, I never use tasksel. I just start with apt-get install apache2 php5-mysql
[01:18] <matt2000> songxk, I guess you can also use `apt-get install lamp-sever^` on an existing system
[01:18] <randomDude1> anyway to make networkmanager not create system tray selected wifi connections as "Available to all users" by default? (it requires sudo or admin like polkit permissions to continue with such actions (( which the temp guest account does not have )) ))
[01:18]  * pyr0 loves ubuntu, even though my other linux friends make fun me for it...
[01:21] <Faryshta_> hi. How can I install xwiki?
[01:22] <bazhang> Faryshta_, from where
[01:22] <songxk> thank u matt2000  i will have a try
[01:23] <TUX-Girl> im having problesm with dimming my backlight,,i use a fix before about this matter,,is simething like this=GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash acpi
[01:24] <TUX-Girl> i need the correct line before i even try fixing this
[01:24] <pyr0> TUX-Girl, what version of ubuntu?
[01:25] <TUX-Girl> 10.4.4
[01:26] <songxk> 11.10
[01:27] <Dr_willis> you can try that acpi option from the grub boot menu to see if it fixes things.. and if it does - apply the changte to the /etc/default file
[01:27] <ActionParsnip> TUX-Girl: possibly:   GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash acpi=Linux"    look familiar?
[01:27] <ActionParsnip> TUX-Girl: what make and model system?
[01:28] <TUX-Girl> ActionParsnip, is a gateway Mseries 73
[01:28] <TUX-Girl> ubuntu 10.4.4
[01:29] <ActionParsnip> TUX-Girl: tried Oneiric? The later kernel may help...
[01:29] <TUX-Girl> all distros i tried
[01:30] <boxbeatsy> hi, i'm trying to retreive whois information server-side, but am unable to retrieve contact details for godaddy domains (e.g. whois sanford-cpa.com).  my friend and i are using the same whois version (5.0.11) and ubuntu 11.10, but somehow he can access the full set of contact details when he sisues the same command.  does anyone know what would be causing the difference or how i can access the full set of info?
[01:30] <TUX-Girl> at boot i get in a black screen,,unknown controller vertion
[01:30] <ActionParsnip> TUX-Girl: try:    GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash acpi_osi=Linux acpi_backlight=vendor"
[01:30] <pyr0> Can you not use something in "power" or "screen" under system settings?  And if not, can you use the hardware buttons to dim?
[01:31] <TeamRocket1233c> Webmin can be installed on an OpenSSH server, right?
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> TeamRocket1233c: webmin isn't to be used in Ubuntu/Debian
[01:31] <TeamRocket1233c> Screw the idea of using it then.
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> TeamRocket1233c: use Zentyal
[01:32] <ActionParsnip> !webmin
[01:33] <matt2000> ActionParsnip, no kidding! I tried a cloudmin set-up script yesterday and it totally trashed my system.
[01:33] <TeamRocket1233c> ActionParsnip: I don't think Zentyal's free.
[01:33] <lewis1711> any idea what the gnome panel mixer applet is called in 12.04? or what binary I can run to change the volume? alsamixer shows one channel :/
[01:34] <TeamRocket1233c> I'll just use Fluxbox then.
[01:34] <xangua> lewis1711: #ubuntu+1 for pangolin
[01:34] <lewis1711> oh nevermind my hot keys work, screw a panel applet
[01:34] <ActionParsnip> lewis1711: ask in #ubuntu+1 for 12.04 related stuffs please
[01:34] <ActionParsnip> TeamRocket1233c: http://trac.zentyal.org/wiki/Documentation/Community/Installation/InstallationGuide?redirectedfrom=Document/Documentation/InstallationGuide
[01:35] <gerzel> Is it good to listen to hours of people saying "Bob"?
[01:35] <ActionParsnip> TeamRocket1233c: nice ppa for precise too :)
[01:35] <uBUXUBu> good evening technicians...
[01:37] <Bambino> hey, i have troubles with my laptop hp pavilion dv 6000 because ubuntu don't run the cd room an someone helpme?
[01:38] <pyr0> Bambino, doesn't boot the cdrom or doesn't recognize it in ubuntu?
[01:38] <hqtc123> cao
[01:38] <hqtc123> wori
[01:38] <hqtc123> no Chinese?
[01:39] <_r00t_> I've got 2 weeks to get off 10.10 ... doing a do-release-upgrade over ssh // this could end in tears || 'like' how it created a screen
[01:39] <hqtc123> do anybody know Chinese?
[01:39] <Bambino> it is not configured?
[01:39] <f3ck4r> -> #chinese ?!
[01:40] <Bambino> well it is on
[01:40] <songxk> what is the use of sudo ln
[01:40] <Bambino> but i cant find it in ubuntu
[01:40] <sent> !cn | hqtc123
[01:40] <songxk> hqtc123  I know Chinese
[01:40] <hqtc123> thanks
[01:41] <songxk> what is the use of sudo ln
[01:42] <sent> songxk, read the manual page for ln. Type in a terminal: man ln
[01:42] <songxk> ok Thank u Sent
[01:42] <sent> sudo executes a command with root permissions
[01:43] <sent> ln makes a link
[01:43] <ActionParsnip> symlinks make life smoooooth
[01:44] <kanon> ayuda
[01:44] <sent> !es | kanon
[01:47] <pyr0> good night
[01:47] <boxbeatsy> hi, i'm trying to retreive whois information server-side, but am unable to retrieve contact details for godaddy domains (e.g. whois sanford-cpa.com).  my friend and i are using the same whois version (5.0.11) and ubuntu 11.10, but somehow he can access the full set of contact details when he sisues the same command.  does anyone know what would be causing the difference or how i can access the full set of info?
[01:50] <dell> boxbeatsy: could be your isp, router settings, or configuration on your machine. hard to say.
[01:51] <Sazpaimon> is there anything that implements the chiralmotion gesture on synaptics touchpads?
[01:52] <Sazpaimon> chiralmotion is a one finger scrolling method where you spin your finger around the mousepad in a circular motion from the scrolling edge to scroll up and down a page
[01:55] <Ator> I'm using Ubuntu 11.10 and have some security related questions..
[01:55] <Dulak> !ask | Ator
[01:55] <Ator> what can I do to improve the online and offline security?
[01:56] <Ator> my twitter account been hacked few times despite changing my password sevarel times..
[01:58] <Ator> how can I fix this for good?
[01:58] <CFHowlett> !vpn|ator
[01:59] <CFHowlett> Ator    if you go online you risk your system.  there is  no "fix for good", there're only degrees of risk vs. degrees of protection
[01:59] <Dulak> Ator: without knowing how your account was cracked it's hard to give specific steps to prevent it.
[01:59] <bbushvt> Hi.  anyone here really good with software raid (mdadm)?
[01:59] <Ator> sorry..by 'good' I ment to say...I don't want my twitter and email account broken into all the time..
[01:59] <i7c> Ator: i'd dare to doubt that your account pw has to do with ubuntu security
[02:00] <bbushvt> or know where I can go to get some help?
[02:00] <Ator> I'm not saying it is realted to ubuntu security..
[02:00] <Sazpaimon> also, I have an ubuntu VM that has the "waiting up to 60 seconds for network configuration" issue
[02:00] <CFHowlett> Ator   stay off public wifi.  Secure your router.
[02:00] <Sazpaimon> however, I can ssh into the machine just fine during this time
[02:00] <Sazpaimon> so the network is up and running
[02:00] <Sazpaimon> whats the deal
[02:00] <Dulak> Ator: use better passwords, never use your account on a computer other than your own, use a vpn anytime you are on wireless.
[02:00] <rbrooks> Ator, are you using good pw's?  how many characters
[02:01] <ActionParsnip> Sazpaimon: ease up on the enter key dude
[02:01] <Ator> my passwords are usually 10 charecters with numbers..
[02:01] <ActionParsnip> Sazpaimon: you could remove network manager and use the interfaces file, will make things a little easier
[02:01] <i7c> Ator: is your wifi protected / are you using wifi? i have weaker pws that never get cracked.
[02:02] <Ator> I live in a house..landlord prvides the internet..so I can;t do anyhitng to the router
[02:02] <rbrooks> are you the only one with phy access to your computers, this seems highly unusual
[02:02] <Loshki> Ator: have you read http://support.twitter.com/articles/76036-safety-keeping-your-account-secure
[02:02] <Sazpaimon> and yes, I know about the enter thing, its a force of habit, Im used to typing in channels with loads of activity and it's hard to get a word in without typing like that
[02:02] <Sazpaimon> !enter | Sazpaimon
[02:02] <Ator> I'm using wifi..but not sure how protected it is..landlord controls it.
[02:02] <hilikus> hey guys
[02:02] <CFHowlett> Ator   create a non-administrative account for daily use and for each individual user.
[02:02] <Ator> I'm the only one with phy access to my computer
[02:02] <Dulak> Ator: start using a vpn,  it's trivial to sniff passwords on wireless
[02:03] <rbrooks> https://twitter.com/
[02:03] <Ator> but I suspect someone who might be doing it..
[02:03] <CFHowlett> Ator   get the  firefox plugin "always https"
[02:03] <gregorsamsa> how do you sniff pswrd of wireless
[02:03] <Ator> so it's not really a trivial sniffing..
[02:04] <Dulak> gregorsamsa: you crack the wireless key, not sniff it.
[02:04] <gregorsamsa> ok
[02:04] <_r00t_> getting tired can I close the do-release-upgrade ssh session and resume it with screen later on ?
[02:04] <i7c> Ator: i don't know which desktop you are using. but try rightclicking on the wifi symbol and click "connection information" to see if your wifi is wpa2 protected.
[02:04] <hilikus> i have a bootable harddrive where i have some live ISO's. the harddrive shows a grub menu to boot but whichever item i try to boot it fails saying that the ISO was not found. the problem is that somwehere it is trying to mount the wrong partition. where are mounts configured so that grub sees them??
[02:05] <gnuskool> backtracj
[02:05] <Ator> I'm using gnome 3 and it is WPA2
[02:05] <rbrooks> is your landlord a computer hacker?
[02:05] <Ator> not at all..but like I said..I suspect someone who might be doing it..
[02:06] <rbrooks> how is someone doing it?
[02:06] <rbrooks> how do you suspect rateher
[02:06] <Ator> if I knew..I might have an answer..
[02:06] <rbrooks> hmmph
[02:06] <Ator> oh..because they said they have done it ones..
[02:06] <Ator> and since then I have changed the password several times..
[02:07] <rbrooks> maybe Twitter is broken lol
[02:07] <Dulak> Ator: ever let that person use your computer?
[02:07] <i7c> Ator: if it's not your landlord try talking to him about changing the wpa2 encryption key. further you can try using cable which is secure as hell.
[02:07] <Ator> including the email account that is attached to the twitter account
[02:07] <Ator> no..I'm the only one with phy access to my computer
[02:08] <i7c> then the access is maybe not "phy"... thought about it?
[02:08] <Ator> the persone I suspect is a friend of a friend..so it's not the landlord.
[02:08] <Ator> landlord got a new Linksys D2500 rounter few days ago..
[02:09] <Loshki> Ator: And we have a winner. If you do what rbrooks said you don't have to worry, since the encryption is end-to-end between you and twitter...
[02:10] <Ator> I was using windows 7 before..and I thought it must be some kind of keylogger..so I switched to Linux..and still the same..
[02:10] <Ator> could it be the browser? I'm using Google chrome
[02:10] <i7c> nope
[02:10] <CFHowlett> Ator   if ytou
[02:11] <Ator> so you're saying that person broke the wpa2 enscryption and hacked into my conputer?
[02:12] <i7c> Ator: the easiest way to sniff a pw is watch you typing it. so if it's a friend of a friend you should think about that.
[02:13] <Ator> I konw what you're saying..but I have changed the password at HOME.
[02:13] <Ator> no one has seen anything..100%
[02:13] <Ator> I'm sick of changing password now..
[02:14] <i7c> Ator: you use the password saving function of chrome?
[02:14] <sacarlson> Ator: do you always use https on your email and tweeter?
[02:14] <Ator> yes I do use the saving fucntion..
[02:14] <i7c> have you changed the google account pw too?
[02:15] <sacarlson> ator: to me it sounds like the weakness must be on the router side with a fake website present
[02:15] <i7c> because when you synch it and someone has that pw he has all your pws.
[02:15] <Ator> I'm not really sure though if threes https for tweeter..but for email I see https everytime I login..
[02:15] <Ator> yes..I changed everything that is attached to tweeter
[02:16] <Ator> I can;t really do anything with the router..landlord is very strict about this for some reason..
[02:16] <ActionParsnip> Ator: do you use a proxy?
[02:16] <Ator> no I don't.
[02:17] <davinciad> need to know if there is anyway to remotely connect to my ubuntu machine without first enabling it on the local computer? I have sudo and root access and access to the router it sits behind.
[02:17] <ActionParsnip> Ator: ok, takes that out :)
[02:17] <Ator> I tried to use TOR...but it is really really slow..
[02:17] <ActionParsnip> davinciad: you will need to install a service on the server side first, so no
[02:18] <davinciad> does the default 11.10 install any services I can use?
[02:18] <Sazpaimon> sorry, had to step away. ActionParsnip I *could* remove network-manager, but I'd like to keep it if at all possible
[02:18] <i7c> davinciad: it's really easy to install  ssh on ubuntu.
[02:19] <davinciad> yes I know but I don't have local access to it until tomorrow and I need to restart a local service tonight
[02:20] <davinciad> There has to be something I can do?
[02:20] <Ator> so the best way to try for now would be VPN I guess..
[02:20] <ActionParsnip> davinciad: they are installed but not enabled by default
[02:21] <ActionParsnip> davinciad: vino is a vnc server, in a default install, not enabled though
[02:21] <ActionParsnip> davinciad: nobody local to the PC to install openssh-server for you?
[02:22] <MoleMan> Can anyone suggest a Linux, command-line equivalent to SpeedFan for Windows please? / Anything CLI that will display system temperatures...
[02:22] <[1]Jwilx> isnt ssh already built into terminal?
[02:22] <root_____> hi guys
[02:22] <davinciad> nope its late everyone went home including myself lol
[02:22] <i7c> so there is no way.
[02:22] <root_____> just downloaded the new ubuntu 12.0 and love it.
[02:22] <ActionParsnip> !rootirc | root_____
[02:22] <_r00t_> hmmmmmm
[02:22] <ActionParsnip> root_____: there is no Ubuntu 12.0
[02:23] <_r00t_> root_____:  No performance issues ?
[02:23] <davinciad> I have vpn access to that network as well but I don't suppose that will hep
[02:23] <davinciad> help
[02:23] <i7c> ActionParsnip: i have 13.37 already, what are you talking about.
[02:23] <ActionParsnip> root_____: 12.04 runs well here too
[02:23] <_r00t_> ActionParsnip: He probably means 12.04
[02:23] <root_____> not yet...had trouble with the network manager
[02:23] <Arsin> hi
[02:23] <bobbyB> arsin
[02:23] <ActionParsnip> _r00t_: yeah but i like to nit pick sometimes
[02:23] <Sazpaimon> to be honest running IRC as root probably wont do anything bad, if you think about it
[02:24] <ActionParsnip> i7c: 13.37 of what, wrong target perhaps?
[02:24] <i7c> davinciad: nope. disabled service is disabled.
[02:24] <root_____> im using irssi
[02:24] <_r00t_> ActionParsnip: you should join the Archlinux channel then ? LOLLLLLLLLLllllllllllllllll
[02:24] <i7c> ActionParsnip: ubuntu 13.37. was bad joke, i apologize.
[02:24] <ActionParsnip> Sazpaimon: irc isn't incredibly secure, plus there are commands you ca run in scripts, which wil run as root rather than user
[02:24] <bobbyB> hey just got ubutu having difficulty even doing simple compands keep getting the message :"no such file or directory" even though there is definitely a file
[02:24] <ActionParsnip> _r00t_: hehe indeed
[02:24] <bobbyB> thoughts?
[02:25] <ActionParsnip> i7c: its late / early here, must've missed it
[02:25] <ActionParsnip> bobbyB: is the file in the pwd?
[02:25] <i7c> ActionParsnip: dito. never mind :)
[02:25] <bobbyB> pwd?
[02:25] <ActionParsnip> bobbyB: present working directory
[02:25] <bobbyB> not sure lol
[02:25] <Arsin> bobbyB: Are you directing it to the path? or have you changed your path with CD to the folder?
[02:25] <ActionParsnip> bobbyB: if you run:  ls    do you see the filename?
[02:25] <bobbyB> no
[02:26] <bobbyB> hmm interesting
[02:26] <Sazpaimon> IRC isn't sure in that it's plaintext, and if we're talking about scripts, then yeah youre not smart. But just using IRC without any fancy client dodads and stuff? I don't see what would be detrimental
[02:26] <Sazpaimon> s/sure/secure
[02:26] <ActionParsnip> bobbyB: then you wil need to change dir to where the file is
[02:26] <root_____> i mean 12.04 sorry
[02:26] <ActionParsnip> Sazpaimon: its just a good habit to get into ;)
[02:27] <Sazpaimon> ActionParsnip, can't argue there
[02:27] <ActionParsnip> root_____: precise isn't supported here until release day but you are free to hang and help others :D
[02:27] <bobbyB> ActionParsnip: so how do you od that exactly?
[02:27] <Arsin> bobbyB: CD (Directory here)
[02:28] <ActionParsnip> bobbyB: where is thefile held?
[02:28] <Arsin> in terminal
[02:28] <bobbyB> under my documents
[02:28] <bobbyB> just a simple text file
[02:28] <ActionParsnip> bobbyB: which folder?
[02:28] <Arsin> bobbyB: wait in VM or windows?
[02:28] <Sazpaimon> also, apparently a kernel update broke my virtualbox additions. I could have sworn i installed dkms
[02:28] <ActionParsnip> bobbyB: in the 'Documents' folder in home?
[02:28] <bobbyB> words.txt in th eoflder Documents
[02:28] <bobbyB> yes
[02:28] <ActionParsnip> bobbyB: cd ~/Documents
[02:28] <Guest24261> thats better im out off root now thanks for telling me...
[02:29] <ActionParsnip> Guest24261: using your user instead of root for everything means you don't have to worry
[02:29] <decksmasher> yes it does
[02:29] <bobbyB> still get the error "no such file
[02:30] <bobbyB> or directory even for that
[02:30] <bobbyB> hmmm
[02:30] <i7c> bobbyB: captial/small letters? :)
[02:30] <Arsin> ^^ is important
[02:30] <i7c> documents not equals Documents, bobbyB
[02:31] <bobbyB> I know it's uppercase
[02:32] <i7c> you can type cd and doubletap TAB to see the subfolders.
[02:32] <ActionParsnip> bobbyB: then if you now run:  ls    do you see the file?
[02:33] <Arsin> ActionParsnip: He hasn't changed directories yet
[02:33] <bobbyB> no it doesn't show
[02:33] <i7c> bobbyB: in which directory are you right now. what does the line in the terminal say?
[02:34] <decksmasher> i really want to download fluxbox now and install it with my new ubuntu 12.4 has anybody done this? just wondering if it was a good idea before i started.
[02:34] <ActionParsnip> bobbyB: did you run: cd ~/Documents    ?
[02:34] <CFHowlett> decksmasher   ask in #ubuntu+1
[02:34] <decksmasher> ok will do thanks
[02:35] <bobbyB> ActionParsnip tried to but didn't do anything
[02:35] <bobbyB> no such file or directory
[02:35] <ActionParsnip> decksmasher: I'm starting to install minimal then install flux/openbox these days :)
[02:36] <ActionParsnip> bobbyB: if you run:  ls    do you see the Documents folder?
[02:36] <bobbyB> wait not did that
[02:36] <bobbyB> yes
[02:36] <ActionParsnip> bobbyB: ok, then type:  cd ~/Do    then hit TAB, it will autocomplete
[02:37] <i7c> ActionParsnip, bobbyB: type cd ~/Docu and hit TAB. there might be a downloads folder :P
[02:38] <ActionParsnip> i7c: good point
[02:39] <ActionParsnip> bobbyB: the D is capitalized too ;)
[02:40] <bobbyB> yeah I think I got it working now
[02:40] <bobbyB> thatnks for your help guys !!!! :D:D:D:D
[02:40] <i7c> bobbyB: yay :)
[02:42] <i7c> bobbyB: you maybe should consider reading some stuff on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/  you'll make fast progress.
[02:43] <ActionParsnip> ya
[02:43] <_r00t_> for god's sake .... how long is this do-release-upgrade taking ? :/
[02:44] <jrib> _r00t_: usually a few hours for me
[02:44] <f3ck4r> see ya guys!
[02:44] <_r00t_> jrib: can I go a contol-z ; screen fg ? I'm tired
[02:44] <_r00t_> *do
[02:45] <jrib> _r00t_: /probably/ (I've never done so)
[02:45] <_r00t_> jrib:
[02:45] <_r00t_> ok thanks
[02:45]  * _r00t_ is tired of waiting
[02:47] <Dulak> fg is a builtin not an executable
[02:48] <Cache_Money> I downloaded Jupiter http://www.webupd8.org/2011/09/jupiter-applet-finally-available-for.html in an attempt to stop my fan from consistently running but the varying power levels have no affect on my fan.  Any ideas?
[02:49] <decksmasher> Does anybody no if youtube is down? becouse im having trouble watching it i hope its not the new 12.04 ubuntu i just downloaded?
[02:49] <jrib> decksmasher: youtube is fine here..
[02:49] <Cache_Money> I'm trying to throtte back my CPU in hopes it will keep the fan from running all the time
[02:49] <decksmasher> jrib thanks
[02:50] <Cache_Money> decksmasher: works for me as well
[02:50] <decksmasher> its me then..? great!!
[02:50] <randomDude1> decksmasher: http://isup.me
[02:50] <gridbag> how do you create a Launcher in the left side unity bar?
[02:50] <Cache_Money> How do you guys throttle back the CPU on your machine?
[02:51] <randomDude1> gridbag: the .desktop file in ~/.local/share/applications/* needs to have special config attributes in it
[02:51] <_r00t_> sweet
[02:51] <_r00t_> jrib closed the ssh connection and it's still running : screen -ls
[02:51] <jrib> _r00t_: you did "screen fg"?
[02:52] <hiexpo> gotta luv albaia
[02:52] <Dulak> _r00t_: how the heck?  fg is a built in not an executable, screen should puke on it.
[02:53] <_r00t_> jrib no that wouldn't work... since the do-release-upgrade creates its own screen I just disconnected the ssh session
[02:53] <Guest19665> does anyone ever have problems with skype not working on their linux os?
[02:53] <bazhang> hiexpo, pardon?
[02:53] <decksmasher> The only thing im not sure about with the 12.04 is the workspace switcher.
[02:53] <jrib> _r00t_: ah
[02:53] <_r00t_> Dulak: correct
[02:53] <Guest19665> anyone at all?
[02:53]  * _r00t_ sleep 3600*3
[02:53] <_r00t_> good night
[02:54] <Guest19665> can anyone help me with a problem i am having with skype?
[02:54] <jrib> Dulak, _r00t_: reptyr seems like a cool tool in case you're ever in the situation where you didn't use screen to start with
[02:54] <hiexpo> hola  bazhang
[02:54] <_r00t_> jrib: NICE I must look into that
[02:55] <bazhang> Guest19665, what version of ubuntu , what is the issue with skype
[02:55] <Guest19665> it is version 10.4 i tink
[02:55]  * hiexpo is being nice 
[02:55] <bazhang> hiexpo, please stay on topic
[02:55] <hiexpo> sure
[02:55] <Guest19665> and it shows people as online then when i go to talk to them or type it doesn't see them as online and won't connect
[02:55] <ghostnik11> hi, i am having a problem with printing from a canon mp560, i think the problem is that when i first installed the printer drivers i installed from a driver that was copied from another computer but now I want to reinstall the driver fresh but need to eliminate the drivers from the computer
[02:56] <ghostnik11> my question is how do i purge the drivers?
[02:56] <bazhang> ghostnik11, what does linuxprinting.org database say about that printer
[02:56] <bazhang> ghostnik11, how did you install them
[02:56] <ghostnik11> bazhang,  didn't know that there was such a site, will check it out now, but i installed it directly
[02:56] <ActionParsnip> ghostnik11: the canon site may have drivers for your printer, they do make some linux drivers in deb form :)
[02:57] <ActionParsnip> ghostnik11: go to the canon europe site
[02:57] <ghostnik11> bazhang,  yeah what i did was i went to canon and just put europe to get drivers, like ActionParsnip said
[02:58] <ghostnik11> bazhang, but the thing is that the first drivers i installed was copied from a thinkpad laptop and this is a different computer
[02:58] <ghostnik11> bazhang, so i think i screwed it up by installing the copied drivers instead of going to the site and downloading them directly from canon like i did for the thinkpad
[02:58] <Guest19665> i am brand new to linux so not sure why i am having this problem bazhang
[02:59] <hiexpo> hola ActionParsnip
[03:00] <mopar> bazhang?
[03:01] <charinza> [;l[
[03:01] <charinza> hi
[03:01] <mopar> hello
[03:01] <charinza> icome from thailand
[03:01] <mopar> awesome charinza, i come from america
[03:01] <charinza> I like ubuntu
[03:01] <goddard> me  to
[03:01] <mopar> i am brand new to ubuntu
[03:02] <mopar> been on it a week and a half
[03:02] <goddard> im not but still lovin it
[03:02] <mopar> came from microsoft
[03:02] <charinza> i want ubuntu server
[03:02] <mopar> i have a question for ya'll
[03:02] <mopar> why do i have problems with skype?
[03:02] <wawawee> dont go back to winblows :)
[03:03] <wawawee> nice vague question
[03:03] <wawawee> lol
[03:03] <mopar> i try typing or calling a person on skype but for some reason it does not connect with them
[03:03] <goddard> cause skype is a microsoft product
[03:03] <mopar> no there is a linux version which i have
[03:03] <wawawee> I have the same issue I have to close it with task manager and resign in
[03:03] <mopar> and it was working before
[03:03] <wawawee> it randomly stops working all the time
[03:03] <goddard> no its a microsoft product
[03:04] <wawawee> its a microshit owned company now
[03:04] <goddard> yep
[03:04] <mopar> then why is there a linux version in the ubuntu software center?
[03:04] <ActionParsnip> mopar: did you grab the deb from the skype site
[03:04] <ghostnik11> bazhang, i just checked out linuxprinting.org and it doesn't have my printer listed: canon pixmia mp560
[03:04] <sacarlson> mopar: skype is working fine for me on ubuntu 11.10
[03:04] <goddard> you really should use something else
[03:04] <mopar> yes i did actionparsnip
[03:04] <mopar> oh wait no
[03:04] <wawawee> mopar it was bought out by microsoft recently
[03:04] <goddard> in my opinion
[03:04] <mopar> i got it from the ubuntu software center
[03:04] <wawawee> and it would make sense to port it to multiple os's
[03:04] <ActionParsnip> mopar: skype as a company is owned by microsoft, microsoft get money by people using paid skype accounts so it is smart to still support Linux
[03:04] <mopar> like what goddard?
[03:04] <ghostnik11> bazhang, but i know it works on ubuntu because it worked on my thinkpad, i just don't know why it doesn't work on this compaq prescario c700
[03:05] <goddard> mopar: there are a few out there but it depends what you wanna do
[03:05] <ActionParsnip> skype also has poor security
[03:05] <goddard> mopar: you use it for a phone number?
[03:05] <mopar> i downloaded skype from the ubuntu software center
[03:05] <d1n0> the internet has poor security, lmao
[03:05] <d1n0> ;P
[03:05] <ActionParsnip> mopar: the one on the skype site is a little newer
[03:05] <wawawee> what does it say when you try to connect
[03:05] <mopar> i have all my contacts i can even pull up the message part but it will not connect with them
[03:05] <ActionParsnip> mopar: is your OS 64bit?
[03:05] <wawawee> connect as in call?
[03:06] <mopar> yes action
[03:06] <mopar> call or type wawa
[03:06] <limpc> hi guys.  having a small issue with my bash prompt, im using a custom prompt ( PS1="$GREEN┌$DARKGRAY($PCT{$LOAD}$DARKGRAY)$GREEN─[$White$On_IBlue\w$NC$GREEN]─\n└$DARKGRAY($PCT\t$DARKGRAY)-($PCT\u$DARKGRAY@\h)$YELLOW $ $NC").  works fine, but it seems like the prompt is still "taking" up space equal to the length of my prompt, immediately to the right of the prompt
[03:06] <zosky> hi yall
[03:06] <goddard> i use Google at the moment but that may not be any better for some
[03:06] <wawawee> try killing it in task manager and relaunching it does that to me randomly
[03:06] <goddard> there are lots of VOIP services out there
[03:06] <limpc> so if i have a prompt of 50 chars and i type something, it wraps to the beginning of the prompt (overwritting the current prompt) 50 chars before the end of the last column
[03:06] <limpc> how do i fix that?
[03:06] <wawawee> i have no idea why im going to reinstall from the skype website now too... join me on this microshit quest
[03:06] <mopar> ok wawawee
[03:06] <mopar> where is task manager on a loinux os?
[03:07] <wawawee> i use gnome i have no idea
[03:07] <goddard> top
[03:07] <mopar> i am brand new to linux so am trying to figure out where everything is
[03:07] <limpc> whats the skype problem?
[03:07] <goddard> GNU/Linux comes with "top" via the terminal
[03:07] <limpc> get htop for the win.
[03:07] <Sazpaimon> so even after uninistalling network-manager I'm still getting the "waiting 60 seconds for network configuration"
[03:07] <mopar> i try typing or calling a skype contact limpc but when i try either it does not show the person as online
[03:07] <wawawee> Hopefully there's a newer version on the website im going to check now
[03:08] <pQylling> Hi there! Does anyone know how to prevent youtube videos from maximizing into my metamode resolution?
[03:08] <wawawee> yeah it does that to me too
[03:08] <mopar> i am using linux
[03:08] <limpc> mopar, ah ive had that issue before.  its definitely a skype linux issue
[03:08] <wawawee> i just kill it in task manager and sign on again
[03:08] <wawawee> its a mess
[03:08] <mopar> that is what i was thinking limpc
[03:08] <limpc> yep
[03:08] <mopar> where is task manager?
[03:08] <limpc> so, any bashrc gurus here :)
[03:08] <limpc> mopar - console
[03:08] <wawawee> i dont use unity or whatver its called
[03:08] <wawawee> no idea
[03:09] <mopar> where is console?
[03:09] <ghostnik11> has this ever happened to anyone where you select to print a document like word doc or open document but when you check the printer its always held
[03:09] <limpc> /bin/bash or /bin/sh
[03:09] <zosky> twice -this week- my root has remounting read-only ??? http://pastie.org/3682167 ... is this a sign that root (my 8gb USB thumb drive) is dying ?
[03:09] <pQylling> What I mean is that youtube maximizes into 3080x1080 so the player gets really small on one monitor when I try to maximize it
[03:09] <mopar> do i need to download the newer version of linux?
[03:10] <ActionParsnip> limpc: bashrc is just a list of commands to run when you launch a terminal, so anyone whom can use bash in a coding way can help
[03:10] <gridbag> Putting a file in ~/.local/share/applications/foo.desktop , with a [Desktop Entry] isn't working for putting a launcher on the left unity bar.
[03:10] <ActionParsnip> mopar: do you mean newest version of Ubuntu?
[03:10] <ghostnik11> then when you tell it to play or carry on with the printing in the printer settings it just keep saying printing document? at least thats what happens when using gnome shell
[03:10] <limpc> ActionParsnip, yes i know. i asked a specific question about it but nobody answered
[03:10] <mopar> yes action
[03:10] <limpc> im having problems with PS1 (prompt)
[03:10] <ActionParsnip> mopar: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[03:10] <ActionParsnip> limpc: in what way?
[03:10] <Cache_Money> How do I find out if there are any other users running Ubuntu on the same computer model as myself?
 hi guys.  having a small issue with my bash prompt, im using a custom prompt ( PS1="$GREEN┌$DARKGRAY($PCT{$LOAD}$DARKGRAY)$GREEN─[$White$On_IBlue\w$NC$GREEN]─\n└$DARKGRAY($PCT\t$DARKGRAY)-($PCT\u$DARKGRAY@\h)$YELLOW $ $NC").  works fine, but it seems like the prompt is still "taking" up space equal to the length of my prompt, immediately to the right of the prompt
[03:11] <ActionParsnip> !hcl | Cache_Money may help
[03:11] <JermBob> where is the network settings in ubuntu ?
[03:11] <JermBob> like to be able to specify the ip i want it to use ?
[03:11] <mopar> action this is all too much for me i am brand spanking new user of linux your language is greek to me bro
[03:11] <ActionParsnip> JermBob: use the network manager in the system tray.
[03:11] <ejv> register a surveymonkey accounts, do some advertising, collect data, perform analysis.
[03:11] <ejv> s/accounts/account/
[03:12] <mopar> hey action can we talk in private?
[03:12] <JermBob> ActionParsnip ill look again but im sure i cant find it
[03:12] <ActionParsnip> mopar: copy the command and press CTRL+ALT+T, paste the command there and hit ENTER, copy the output and paste it here
[03:12] <wawawee> mopar i just upgraded my skype i doubt it'll fix anything but oh well
[03:12] <sacarlson> JermBob: network-manager has options for static ip
[03:12] <limpc> ActionParsnip, what i mean is, if my prompt is 50 chars long, when i type something on the prompt, it'll wrap without a newline, starting 50 chars from the last column available
[03:12] <JermBob> you are right
[03:13] <JermBob> i had to go to the ipv4 tab
[03:13] <JermBob> sorry about that
[03:13] <gridbag> oh wait, that does work if you drop/drag it with filemanager.
[03:13] <JermBob> is the netmask the same thing as a subnet ?
[03:14] <ActionParsnip> JermBob: yes
[03:14] <Dulak> JermBob: the netmask describes the size of the subnet, so kinda
[03:14] <limpc> ActionParsnip, any idea?
[03:14] <ActionParsnip> JermBob: its the subnet mask
[03:14] <JermBob> thanks
[03:14] <MoleMan> Can anyone suggest a Linux, command-line equivalent to SpeedFan for Windows please? / Anything CLI that will display system temperatures...
[03:14] <ActionParsnip> limpc: I'd ask in #bash, I'm no good with PS1 things
[03:14] <JermBob> thanks
[03:14] <Sazpaimon> any way to fix this "waiting up to 60 seconds for network configuration" issue?
[03:14] <limpc> ha.. 666 users in #bash :)
[03:15] <Sazpaimon> I've already uninstalled network-manager, and I can ssh into the machine fine at this point. What else could be causing it
[03:15] <BlackDalek> how do I remove a ttf font from the system?
[03:15] <ActionParsnip> Sazpaimon: did you try setting the IP in /etc/network/interfaces
[03:16] <BryanRuiz> how do is start programs on startup in unity?
[03:16] <BryanRuiz> or actually
[03:16] <BryanRuiz> i reverted to an old gnome
[03:16] <Sazpaimon> ActionParsnip, it's set to DHCP, and like I said, I can ssh into the machine fine
[03:16] <BryanRuiz> but now i dont have a system menu
[03:17] <hiexpo> sup ActionParsnip
[03:17] <BryanRuiz> or maybe its a new gnome, i dont know
[03:17] <ActionParsnip> Sazpaimon: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[03:17] <JermBob> dam network connections screen cant close
[03:17] <JermBob> weak
[03:17] <Sazpaimon> ActionParsnip, oneric
[03:17] <wawawee> hey what does SDA stand for I googled it
[03:17] <wawawee> just curious i see nothing
[03:17] <JermBob> dam alt button on vnc
[03:17] <JermBob> messes stuff up
[03:18] <ActionParsnip> Sazpaimon: is it a virtual system?
[03:18] <Sazpaimon> ActionParsnip, yes
[03:18] <ActionParsnip> Sazpaimon: what technology are you using?
[03:19] <limpc> #bash is quiet :(
[03:19] <Sazpaimon> ActionParsnip, virtualbox
[03:19] <ActionParsnip> Sazpaimon: vmware? virtualbox?
[03:19] <BryanRuiz> anyone using ubuntu one storage?
[03:19] <BryanRuiz> any good?
[03:19] <ActionParsnip> Sazpaimon: have you asked in the #vbox channel, there may be a known issue
[03:19] <ActionParsnip> Sazpaimon: could try changing the network device in the vbox config
[03:20] <JermBob> hrm
[03:20] <JermBob> my pc im vncing my box from
[03:21] <JermBob> has internet
[03:21] <Dishcandanty> Question: Trying to install Themes with the gnome tweak tool. All seemed to install just fine, but doesn't show any themes in the tool
[03:21] <Sazpaimon> ActionParsnip, let me actually try killing all the network manager stuff in interfaces, that may be it. There are a few things listed as "auto" that shouldnt be
[03:21] <JermBob> the ubuntu box is on the same network but cant get www
[03:21] <JermBob> i just specified the ip
[03:22] <ActionParsnip> JermBob: try:   echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf > /dev/null
[03:22] <Sazpaimon> though I could have sword virtualbox gave me a usb0 device, guess not
[03:22] <JermBob> ActionParsnip whats that do ?
[03:22] <ActionParsnip> JermBob: set's your DNS servers
[03:23] <hiexpo> sup
[03:23] <BlackDalek> how do I remove a ttf font from the system?
[03:23] <JermBob> ActionParsnip what does it set them to ?
[03:23] <Sazpaimon> JermBob, google DNS
[03:23] <hiexpo> nadda
[03:23] <JermBob> really interesting
[03:24] <JermBob> yup
[03:24] <JermBob> that worked
[03:24] <JermBob> thanks
[03:24] <JermBob> hah
[03:24] <FloodBot1> JermBob: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:24] <JermBob> i set the dns in my network settings too
[03:24] <ActionParsnip> JermBob: it's google's primary public DNS, its a DNS is all you need to know
[03:24] <hiexpo> smiles
[03:24] <JermBob> haha
[03:25] <ActionParsnip> JermBob: if you set an IP and gateway it doesn'ty mean you will get the web, if you don't set a DNS server you will get nothing
[03:25] <JermBob> ActionParsnip i know this. i did set my dns to my modem but it didnt pick the server ips up from it obviously
[03:25] <BryanRuiz> how the hell do you get ubuntu one to run automatically
[03:25] <JermBob> other machines on my network do
[03:25] <ActionParsnip> JermBob: try the web based one, may help
[03:26] <JermBob> ActionParsnip it sure did
[03:26] <JermBob> thanks
[03:26] <ActionParsnip> JermBob: thats why I said to use that, not your modem
[03:27] <ActionParsnip> JermBob: funny how it works when you do what I say huh ;)
[03:27] <JermBob> ActionParsnip i understand, just any other pc on my network set to the 10.0.0.100 dns works too
[03:27] <JermBob> just ubuntu needed it different obviously
[03:27] <JermBob> not to relay them from the modem
[03:27] <JermBob> ActionParsnip i just like to learn as well as being told the answer so i dont need to ask again next time
[03:28] <JermBob> thats why i asked what it did :D
[03:28] <curiousx> ciao a tutti
[03:28] <curiousx> !it > curiousx
[03:28] <JermBob> !it > JermBob
[03:28] <JermBob> ?
[03:28] <JermBob> heh
[03:29] <ActionParsnip> JermBob: its cool, sometimes home grade stdoes't give the right details, so humans can override :)
[03:29] <kevdog> let worldpeace reign
[03:29] <JermBob> home grade stdoes't ?
[03:30] <ActionParsnip> JermBob: home grade stuff
[03:30] <Sazpaimon> oh god the people going "ciao" have invaded this channel too? Has this become an infestation over all of IRC?
[03:30] <JermBob> ah yeah thompson modem
[03:30] <JermBob> poop
[03:30] <Alazare619> so im running ubuntu on my server box 10.04 lucid lynx fully updated with xfwm and xfpanel but my sound wont save any ideas
[03:32] <ActionParsnip> Alazare619: how do you save sound?
[03:32] <Alazare619> if i remember right its alsa
[03:34] <curiousx> Alazare619: recording sound... arecord -f dat -t wav test.wav    listen recorded sound... aplay -t wav -f dat test.wav
[03:35] <root> hey guys
[03:35] <Alazare619> i mean volume levels...sorry its late
[03:35] <ghostnik11> how can you search for a printer on your network that isn't detected when you go to add printer
[03:35] <ghostnik11> how do you find its address
[03:36] <Alazare619> dhcp tables?
[03:36] <kevdog> can you ping the printer?
[03:36] <curiousx> Alazare619: type in terminal: alsamixex
[03:36] <ghostnik11> kevdog, well it finds the printer when i want to scan something but doesn't find it when i want to print
[03:36] <goddard> ghostnik11: wrong driver?
[03:36] <nuiok> Guys can anyone tell me if there at least intermediate using the backtrack OS
[03:36] <nuiok> ?
[03:37] <ghostnik11> kevdog, so i wanted to know if i could just go to add printer and put its location
[03:37] <goddard> nuiok: ?
[03:37] <_pg_> installing smb on xubuntu is a nightmare. any ideas on making it easier? hint i still havent gotten it working
[03:37] <ghostnik11> goddard, its the only driver that is offered
[03:37] <nuiok> I wanna private chat to get a little more knowledge on the backtrack OS
[03:37] <goddard> nuiok: ask in their channe;
[03:37] <Alazare619> ./join #backtrack
[03:38] <kevdog> tell me more about printer -- is it stand alone, wireless standalone, or does it go through an attached pc
[03:38] <ghostnik11> goddard, the printer works for scanning a document over my network but doesn't for printing
[03:38] <curiousx> nuiok: #backtrack-linux
[03:38] <ghostnik11> kevdog, its the canon pixma mp560 and it works via wireless through the my home router
[03:38] <goddard> ghostnik11: to me if scanning is working but printing isn't that tells me either installed incorrectly .. default printer not set correctly or malfunctions of the printer hardware
[03:38] <Alazare619> whats the command to find the current sound driver in use
[03:38] <nuiok> I am using a vm
[03:38] <nuiok> sas i'm banned
[03:39] <nuiok> says*
[03:39] <Alazare619> heh
[03:39] <goddard> ghostnik11: google any help?
[03:39] <kevdog> ghostnik11: Has static IP address?
[03:39] <ghostnik11> goddard, it works for the other computers in the house
[03:39] <ghostnik11> kevdog, i don't know the ip thats what i want to find
[03:39] <goddard> ghostnik11: ahh so the computer your printer from is ubuntu?
[03:39] <ghostnik11> goddard, yes
[03:39] <curiousx> sorry mah friend but in the BT world there is no teacher
[03:39] <goddard> ghostnik11: and you have the correct info?
[03:40] <ghostnik11> goddard, it works from windows laptop and also another ubuntu 11.10 which is a thinkpad but not my compaq laptop
[03:40] <kevdog> ghostnik11: It should either say on the printer, or have you scanned your internal network with a tool like nmap?
[03:40] <ghostnik11> goddard, yep its the latest version and everything in synaptic
[03:40] <goddard> ghostnik11: ahh probably something just set incorrectly
[03:40] <curiousx> you have to lern by ypurself but ill give ya a good beginig: http://www.securitytube.net/
[03:40] <ghostnik11> kevdog, no never did a scan how can i do one?
[03:41] <kevdog> ghostnik11: Let me look up the command since I don't do it everyday
[03:42] <G0ldfizzy> ghostnik11: try typing ifconfig in a terminal and see if the printer ip shows up
[03:42] <ghostnik11> G0ldfizzy, thanks will do right away
[03:42] <kevdog> nmap 192.168.1.0/24 would do all ip addresses from 192.168.1.0->192.168.1.255
[03:44] <ghostnik11> G0ldfizzy, ifconfig just gave me the info on my laptop and not on network
[03:44] <ghostnik11> kevdog, i have to install nmap first one sec
[03:44] <G0ldfizzy> ghostnik11: netstat -tap
[03:44] <curiousx> kevdog: sudo nmap -sP 192.168.1.0/24
[03:45] <kevdog> Thanks for the nmap clarifications -- I don't use the tool everyday
[03:46] <G0ldfizzy> curiousx: what is the -sP for?
[03:48] <ghostnik11> kevdog, i got the scan of network with doing it without sudo
[03:48] <ghostnik11> kevdog, i found it on my network will try to add the address and see if it works now
[03:49] <kevdog> ghostnik11: Well at least you found it
[03:49] <curiousx> G0ldfizzy: let search into mah files i dont remember but i know that this command is for search alive IPs in the lan
[03:50] <curiousx> G0ldfizzy: this is the ouput of that command:
[03:50] <curiousx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/903279/
[03:51] <G0ldfizzy> curiousx: ahh right thanks. I am not sure if the printer was wireless but I would have logged into router to see where the traffic was going - probably the long way around it :\
[03:51] <ghostnik11> quick question must these be installed for me to get the printer detected on the network: Network printer detection needs services mdns, ipp, ipp-client and samba-client
[03:52] <ome> Where does the apt is keeping the package index files ? how can I force reload them ?
[03:53] <kevdog> ghostnik11: What does sudo lpstat -t give you?
[03:53] <sacarlson> ome: sudo apt-get update;
[03:53] <curiousx> G0ldfizzy: another tool, sudo nast -m -i wlan0
[03:53] <ghostnik11> kevdog, shows no destination added
[03:54] <curiousx> G0ldfizzy: you wanna sniff the traffic going though the printer ?
[03:54] <curiousx> through*
[03:55] <G0ldfizzy> curiousx: I wouldn't mind knowing how to do that. I had ntop installed on my server but I am redoing it now so it is down.
[03:55] <ghostnik11> kevdog, i don't get it, it works on ubuntu 11.10 on a thinkpad but doesn't work on a ubuntu 11.10 compaq prescario
[03:56] <kevdog> ghostnik11: Not sure, but I'm looking some things up for you to add this printer via the command line
[03:57] <curiousx> ok to sniff the whole traffic in your LAN the best tool ever is "wireshark"
[03:57] <curiousx> only you have to filter the traffic you wanna see
[03:57] <ome> sacarlson: that doesn't help, I have messed things up.
[03:57] <G0ldfizzy> curiousx: don't know how to use it properly but would love to learn.
[03:58] <curiousx> let search into my files =P xD
[03:58] <sacarlson> curiousx: also if you network is switched you need to put wireshark on a system that is used as gateway to see most trafic and even with that not all if path is local to another node on the lan
[03:58] <kevdog> When you specifically scan the ip address of the printer, whats the output of nmap?
[04:00] <curiousx> =( i loss a lot of data i had the whole wiki of wireshark in mah hdd =(
[04:01] <curiousx> ye sacarlson
[04:01] <kevdog> ghostnik11: When you specifically scan the ip address of the printer, whats the output of nmap?
[04:01] <ActionParsnip> ghostnik11: if you put the IP in the add network printer app and click 'probe'  is it detected?
[04:02] <curiousx> but wireshark is pretty easy only you have to click in the interface which is connected to the router let say wlan
[04:02] <G0ldfizzy> curiousx: is there a web UI for when using on a server?
[04:03] <G0ldfizzy> <- back in 5
[04:03] <curiousx> no, i dont know about a web UI =(
[04:03] <ghostnik11> ActionParsnip, it won't even let me select probe in the add network printer app, all it does is keep saying certain files have to be installed like: Network printer detection needs services mdns, ipp, ipp-client and samba-client
[04:04] <curiousx> but ther is a CLI tool called "tshark" wich is used for wireshark and another which is too good called "tcpdump"
[04:05] <ghostnik11> kevdog, when i do nmap for the printers ip only all  it says is hosts is up and then tells me the ports opened for it
[04:05] <kevdog> which ports
[04:05] <kevdog> ghostnik11: You don't have port 631 blocked via a firewall do you?
[04:05] <ActionParsnip> ghostnik11: how did you install ubuntu?
[04:07] <ghostnik11> ActionParsnip, through a ubuntu 11.10 cd
[04:07] <ghostnik11> kevdog, no
[04:07] <ActionParsnip> ghostnik11: strange, should install all that for you
[04:07] <kevdog> ghostnik11: which ports are open on the port scanner
[04:08] <kevdog> ghostnik11: Do you have cups installed?
[04:08] <ghostnik11> kevdog, will check if cups is installed
[04:08] <ghostnik11> kevdog, also i can ping the printers ip so its being detected
[04:09] <ghostnik11> kevdog, cups is installed
[04:10] <lysdexia> USB 3G Dongle on oneiric question: I have ubuntu minimal installed on a pcengines ALIX board. When I plug in my HUAWEI 3G dongle, only the mass storage device shows in dmesg. When I do the same on another machine with a full graphical installation of oneiric, I see "usb 1-3:1.0: GSM modem (1-port) converter detected ... I'm obviously missing a package or two, but can't figure out which. Clues, please?
[04:11] <SuperNoeMan> lysdexia: I think there is a command that you can run that will list every package on a system
[04:11] <SuperNoeMan> you can do that on each machine, and then compare them
[04:12] <kevdog> ghostnik11: What does: sudo lpinfo -v     show?
[04:12] <SuperNoeMan> by finding out what each has, I think you'll be able to find the one you need
[04:12] <the> heeeiii dudes, I have a problem with my ubuntu 10.4
[04:13] <CFHowlett> The  do tell ...
[04:13] <the> eiii!!
[04:13] <the> someone!
[04:13] <ghostnik11> kevdog, cnijnet:/00-1E-8F-CD-EE-E6
[04:13] <CFHowlett> the no details, no help.
[04:13] <SuperNoeMan> the: just talk about the problem
[04:13] <sacarlson> the: I'm sure with all the info you have provided we will have that solved in no time
[04:14] <the> please something to find drivers for my speckers on my ubuntu 10.4?
[04:14] <kevdog> ghostnik11: I'm guessing that's the MAC address of the printer
[04:14] <the> ooohh!
[04:14] <the> i have probles with my drivers
[04:14] <sacarlson> the: most sound cards are plug and play
[04:15] <the> but something to fix it??
[04:15] <ghostnik11> kevdog, yeah so if it sees the mac address then how come it can't add it as a printer that prints but it allows scaning over the network
[04:15] <kevdog> ghostnik11: Before I go technical U have tried http://127.0.0.1/631
[04:15] <rbrooks> hmm try to unmute yet in the mixer?
[04:15] <wiseguy12851> can somebody help me get zend working on my Ubuntu Server Machine, I can'r even get a basic application working
[04:15] <wiseguy12851> white screen of death
[04:16] <ghostnik11> kevdog, no
[04:16] <sacarlson> the: to start we might take a peak at what hardware is detected with something like sudo lshw | pastebinit ;
[04:16] <kevdog> ghostnik11: Try it
[04:16] <ghostnik11> kevdog, do you mean a nmap of http://127.0.0.1/631
[04:16] <rbrooks> wiseguy12851, are you useing what jvm?
[04:16] <the> this is for me?'
[04:16] <kevdog> ghostnik11: No just try that in the browser
[04:16] <rbrooks> lol
[04:16] <wiseguy12851> I just install zend framework through pear
[04:16] <rbrooks> hmm
[04:17] <the> fuck, it's dificult for my to understand all of this because i don't speack english well
[04:17] <ghostnik11> kevdog, it says firefox can't establish a connection to the server
[04:17] <rbrooks> lol
[04:18] <rbrooks> the: try unmuting mixer?? i dunno
[04:18] <CFHowlett> The if you understand enough english to use profanity, you'll do fine here.  by the way, let's keep our language clean.  it's a rule.
[04:18] <sacarlson> the: there are other channels that support other languages, you might want to try them first
[04:18] <CFHowlett> the: what's your first language?
[04:18] <the> spanish
[04:18] <James_WB> hi got a question on finding a driver for my modem
[04:18] <wiseguy12851> php error log says zend failed to open a require_once -- Zend/Application.php but I have the symbolic link there and the listed include path is correct
[04:18] <CFHowlett> !es|the
[04:18] <the> but i can try to undertand
[04:19] <CFHowlett> the join #ubuntu-es
[04:19] <the> gracias (:
[04:19] <CFHowlett> the: good luck
[04:19] <James_WB> hi got a question on finding a driver for my modem
[04:20] <James_WB> hello ?
[04:20] <sacarlson> James_WB:  not enuf info to help you
[04:20] <CFHowlett> !patience|James_WB
[04:22] <James_WB> i have a h9601 modem made by prolink , using ubuntu 11.04. The modem has a set of drivers under linux but ubuntu is not listed in them , rather it is fedoracore3, mandrake 10.1 , suselinux 9.2 . What should I do ?
[04:22] <CFHowlett> James_WB   post the link where you found the drivers
[04:22] <rbrooks> 8mandrake?
[04:23] <rbrooks> thats like ancient
[04:23] <kevdog> ghostnik11: Whats your model number again
[04:23] <ghostnik11> kevdog, canon pixma mp560
[04:24] <MierdaDeBerban> rbrooks   sé que tienes una rica verga
[04:24] <MierdaDeBerban> ohh yeahh
[04:24] <MierdaDeBerban> la quiero
[04:24] <MierdaDeBerban> síiii  sí
[04:24] <gridbag> how can I drag-drop the /usr/share/applications/xchat.desktop onto my unity bar from the command-line. This is tedios doing this in the File Manager UI thing.
[04:24] <James_WB> http://www.prolink2u.com/new/support/download.php?q=h9601&submit=Okay
[04:24] <CFHowlett> !es|MierdaDeBerban
[04:24] <MierdaDeBerban> la quiero para dentro de mi culito
[04:24] <rbrooks> se se, non habla es
[04:24] <smacktalk> what's the command to unmount a cdrom?
[04:24] <ghostnik11> kevdog, i have the drivers installed and just double checked in synaptic and its all there but my printer doesn't show up in printer settings
[04:24] <MierdaDeBerban> damela toda rbrooks
[04:24] <rbrooks> huh?
[04:24] <the> dudes.. i have another probles no one answare in -es chanel
[04:24] <rbrooks> ;p
[04:24] <MierdaDeBerban> todas las siete pulgadas de tu pene
[04:24] <kevdog>  ghostnik11: Did you ever install drivers?  What were they?
[04:24] <MierdaDeBerban> cojeme con fuerza guey
[04:24] <MierdaDeBerban> sé que a ti te fascina los culitos emos
[04:24] <MierdaDeBerban> jeje
[04:24] <rbrooks> _non_ habla
[04:25] <rbrooks> sry my friend
[04:25] <MierdaDeBerban> te dije que me cogieras el culito
[04:25] <MierdaDeBerban> puto pendejo
[04:25] <MierdaDeBerban> rbrooks
[04:25] <rbrooks> ok io know that menas!
[04:25] <tr0n> en englais puta
[04:25] <rbrooks> hahah
[04:25] <billy_ran_away_> Can anyone help me configure ldapscripts?
[04:26] <billy_ran_away_> I'm getting invalid credentials even though I know I have the right password for cn=admin,dc=domain,dc=com
[04:26] <ghostnik11> kevdog, cnijfilter-mp560series
[04:26] <rbrooks> ldap makes me run away
[04:26] <James_WB> the documentation is not clear for me on what to do to my modem ,
[04:26] <billy_ran_away_> I've verified it by doing a ldapsearch...
[04:26] <ghostnik11> kevdog, i did it via this: http://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2011/06/download-install-canon-printer-driver.html
[04:26] <rbrooks> James_WB, winmodem?  not likely to work
[04:26] <sacarlson> James_WB: this looks like a posible solution http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showthread.php?t=747586
[04:26] <ghostnik11> kevdog, i think i will just do a complete removal in synaptic then try it manual again via canon site
[04:27] <kevdog> hold on
[04:27] <Recktum> anybody here familiar with chimpout Forum?
[04:27] <Recktum> I am
[04:27] <CFHowlett> James_WB   2007 driver found: http://eciadsl.flashtux.org/download/debian/etch/eciadsl-usermode_0.12-1_i386.deb
[04:27] <Recktum> I joined it because I hate niggers!
[04:27] <Recktum> Do you hate niggers cfhowlett?
[04:27] <rbrooks> damn near killed em
[04:27] <CFHowlett> James_WB   http://eciadsl.flashtux.org/download.php
[04:27] <Recktum> Stupid apes.
[04:27] <Recktum> Chimpout Forum is the place to be
[04:27] <Recktum> if you hate niggers!
[04:27] <CFHowlett> !ops|recktum
[04:27] <FloodBot1> Recktum: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:28] <Recktum> chimpout
[04:28] <Recktum> .com
[04:28] <Recktum> forum
[04:28] <Recktum> chimpout
[04:28] <FloodBot1> Recktum: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:28] <rbrooks> ok idk how my joke went over now that hes a racist
[04:28] <kevdog> ghostnik11: Try that, I'm trying to look up configuring from command line, but its difficult
[04:28] <Recktum> chimpout
[04:28] <Recktum> .com
[04:28] <Recktum>  /forum
[04:28] <Recktum> chimpout
[04:28] <FloodBot1> Recktum: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:28] <zandt> having trouble getting ubuntu to mount a usb stick. not sure where to start determining the problem.
[04:29] <Recktum> chimpout
[04:29] <Recktum> .com
[04:29] <rbrooks> Recktum?  damn near killed em
[04:29] <Recktum>  /forum
[04:29] <Recktum> lol
[04:29] <FloodBot1> Recktum: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:29] <ghostnik11> kevdog, okay will completely remove along with ppa and then do a manual install via downloading from canon site
[04:29] <Recktum>    If you hate niggers
[04:29] <Recktum> Join
[04:29] <Recktum> chimpout
[04:29] <CFHowlett> rbrooks   let's *not* encourage the trolls, shall we?
[04:29] <Recktum> .com
[04:29] <Recktum>  /forum
[04:29] <rbrooks> ok my bad
[04:30] <James_WB> CFHowlett> i downloaded the driver there , should i run it on natty narwhale ?
[04:30] <CFHowlett> James_WB   It'll work or it won't.  go for it.
[04:30] <James_WB> ok thanks for your help , ill try it out and see
[04:30] <tr0n> i downloaded ntop but when i run it i get an error saying to run it with -P directory, what dir should i specify?
[04:31] <kevdog> ghostnik11: does lpinfo -v list network socket as an option?
[04:31] <CFHowlett> James_WB   good luck
[04:31] <zandt> palimpsest sees the usb stick, but doesn't seem to be able to do anything with it
[04:33] <Braden`> Hello
[04:33] <CFHowlett> Braden`   greetings
[04:33] <billy_ran_away_> Got it!
[04:33] <billy_ran_away_> OMG that was dumbest thing I've ever seen...
[04:33] <CFHowlett> billy_ran_away_   wrong channel?
[04:33] <rbrooks> wow waht an awesome ISP
[04:33] <cupps> Any had luck getting newer Thunderbird (11.0 here) working in the Messaging Menu with 10.04?
[04:33] <rbrooks> no he got his ldap on
[04:34] <Tijuanense> Anybody here sick of niggers?
[04:34] <Tijuanense> We are!
[04:34] <Tijuanense> That is why I joined
[04:34] <Braden`> I am trying to add a second IP.  Only one physical network card.  Is there a guide on how to do that?
[04:34] <FloodBot1> Tijuanense: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:34] <Tijuanense> Chimpout
[04:34] <CFHowlett> !ops|Tijuanense
[04:34] <billy_ran_away_> vim adds a null character to the end of a file so when I edit /etc/ldap.secret the password was getting saved with an extra null byte
[04:34] <Tijuanense> Join
[04:34] <Tijuanense> Chimpout
[04:34] <Tijuanense> .com
[04:34] <Tijuanense>  /forum
[04:34] <FloodBot1> Tijuanense: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:34] <billy_ran_away_> echo -n 'PASSWORD' > /etc/ldap.secert works
[04:34] <kevdog> ghostnik11: Anything, cuz if not, I got an idea now
[04:34] <rbrooks> ahhh
[04:35] <Tijuanense> iS ANYBODY ELSE HERE TIRED OF NIGGERS?
[04:35] <Tijuanense> I am!
[04:35] <billy_ran_away_> funny reading the tutorials I was like… why would I echo my password to the file?
[04:35] <Tijuanense> That is why I joined Chimpout
[04:35] <billy_ran_away_> I'll just use vim...
[04:35] <Tijuanense> Chimpout is not White Supremacist!
[04:35] <zandt> this is what palimpsest is spitting out when I try to format the usb stick. http://pastebin.com/06V9EaRw
[04:35] <Tijuanense> I myself am a Mexican!
[04:35] <Braden`> I am trying to add a second IP.  Only one physical network card.  Is there a guide on how to do that?
[04:35] <rbrooks> billy_ran_away_, that would vex me i dnk vim behave that way
[04:35] <zandt> not really sure how to approach this problem, never had problems with devices not being recognized
[04:36] <billy_ran_away_> rbrooks: Thanks, nice to know I'm not the only one : )
[04:37] <sacarlson> braden:  sudo ifconfig eth0:1 192.168.2.3
[04:37] <rbrooks> that guy can change his IP seemingly at will
[04:37] <VergaDeGry> Are you sick of those NIGGERS?
[04:37] <VergaDeGry> I am!
[04:37] <VergaDeGry> That is why I joined
[04:37] <VergaDeGry> Chimpout
[04:37] <VergaDeGry> .com
[04:37] <FloodBot1> VergaDeGry: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:37] <VergaDeGry>  /forum
[04:37] <CFHowlett> !ops|VergaDeGry
[04:38] <kevdog> seriously, is this the ubuntu channel
[04:38]  * CFHowlett is getting heavy use of the "/ignore" command
[04:38] <zandt> lol
[04:38] <malkauns> any conky experts here?  how do u make conky always-on-top?
[04:38] <wawawee> geez this is a real black hate site hahaha
[04:38] <Braden`> I am trying to add a second IP.  Only one physical network card.  Is there a guide on how to do that?
[04:38] <research4oscar> what are some recommended permissions folder under var/www?
[04:39] <LosChabelos> At Chimpout WE ARE NOT WHITE SUPREMACISTS!
[04:39] <log> !ops | LosChabelos
[04:39] <wawawee> they actually spend time on a forum posting videos of black people in commercials
[04:39] <LosChabelos> I myself am a Mexican!
[04:39] <wawawee> lol
[04:39] <wawawee> whata bunch of nerds
[04:39] <the> o god i mexican too!
[04:39] <Corey> It's not topical here.
[04:39] <CFHowlett> !ot
[04:39] <sacarlson> Braden`:  it's as simple as ;  sudo ifconfig eth0:1  192.168.2.222
[04:39] <Braden`> The moderation system in here is severely defective.  Someone should stay opped and just issue bans instead of having users flood the channel with ban requests.
[04:40] <kevdog> Braden`: +1
[04:40] <the> ok i have a qestion, I have a problem with my speackers
[04:40] <elky> Braden`, you're welcome to pay us salary to give up our paid jobs to do that.
[04:40] <the> in ubuntu 10.4
[04:40] <wawawee> how hard is it to op a bunch of people
[04:40] <wawawee> you need to be paid to ban people?
[04:40] <Dulak> Braden`: ops idle quite a bit, or chat in other channels.
[04:40] <CFHowlett> wawawee   feel free to volunteer yourself for that task
[04:40] <ActionParsnip> the: what is the issue?
[04:40] <wawawee> sure
[04:40] <the> me??
[04:40] <wawawee> op me
[04:40] <elky> no.
[04:40] <log> elky: s/Rektum/Recktum/
[04:40] <rbrooks> lol
[04:40] <ActionParsnip> the: I'd change your nick too, you're going to get a tonne of highlights
[04:41] <FernandoCueva> I'm trying to mount a floppy disk on ubuntu and I can't what is going on?
[04:41] <Braden`> elky:  Try banning the entire domain for that user and also auto-ban any TOR nodes.
[04:41] <sacarlson> Braden`: and also you can control your own ignore in your IRC client
[04:41] <elky> log, thanks, i'm doing this while doing my paid work
[04:41] <rbrooks> the, not everyont is talkin to u
[04:41] <elky> Braden`, a whole isp, before i check if it's going to ban a heap of other people?
[04:41] <VergaDeCorey> Basically, if you are not a NIGGER and you hate NIGGERS, we welcome you with open arms!
[04:41] <VergaDeCorey> JOIN
[04:41] <VergaDeCorey> Chimpout
[04:41] <FloodBot1> VergaDeCorey: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:41] <VergaDeCorey> .com
[04:41] <Braden`> elky:  Use /who to determine the scope the ban will have
[04:42] <the> eii dudes??
[04:42] <kevdog> !ops|VergaDeCorey
[04:42] <the> someone who can give me supourtt?
[04:42] <Braden`> sacarlson:  Thank you for the reply, but I am wanting to make the second ip permenately attached to the device via /etc/network/interfaces
[04:42] <Jordan_U> kevdog: We're already watching, no need to continue using the ops call.
[04:42] <ActionParsnip> the: I asked you what your issue was!?
[04:42] <ghostnik11> kevdog, so i just finished installing the drivers and told it to print a test page
[04:42] <ghostnik11> kevdog, will see if it actually does it
[04:42] <Dulak> Braden`: it's exactly the same as the primary ip except you use a device alias (eth0:0) as the device
[04:43] <kevdog> ghostnik11: Ok -- good, cross your fingers
[04:43] <sacarlson> Braden`: ok you can add it there also
[04:43] <Braden`> Ok
[04:43] <Braden`> Thanks
[04:44] <kevdog> sorry about the ops call
[04:44] <Seven_Six_Two> I'm trying to go through many individual documents, and I have to resize the widths. The overlay scroll handles are making it very frustrating. Is there an easier way?
[04:44] <kevdog> Seven_Six_Two: Like they are jpgs or something else
[04:45] <Yorak> Is there any program I can use to center windows on my screen? There used to be something I used ages ago, but for the life of me I cannot remember what it was called.
[04:45] <FernandoCueva> I'm trying to mount a floppy disk on ubuntu and I can't what is going on? how can I see what's inside my floppy disk if I don't know its partition type yet
[04:45] <Seven_Six_Two> meaning the scroll handles interfere with getting the window width cursor when I go to the edge of the window. I don't want to scroll, I have a wheel. I want to make the windows wider when I open them
[04:46] <zandt> http://pastebin.com/06V9EaRw palimpsest output & http://pastebin.com/Kf5Mb3x8 fdisk output. can't mount a usb drive :|
[04:46] <ghostnik11> kevdog, nope didn't print it just says in the printing jobs; 1 active job and it says held
[04:46] <rbrooks> Seven_Six_Two, use ALT click then move window
[04:46] <ActionParsnip> the: if you don't explain your issue, nobody can help
[04:47] <kevdog> can you list on your install the following: sudo lpinfo -m | grep 560 | grep Canon
[04:47] <Fyodorovna> zandt, Disk /dev/sdb doesn't contain a valid partition table
[04:47] <kevdog> ghostnick11: can you list on your install the following: sudo lpinfo -m | grep 560 | grep Canon
[04:47] <mefistofeles> hey, is there a way to disable a ubuntu user to shutdown/reboot and/or switch user?
[04:47] <kevdog> ghostnik11: and can you pastebin: sudo lpinfo -v
[04:47] <Lady`GirL> Hi
[04:47] <Lady`GirL> :)
[04:47] <Seven_Six_Two> rbrooks, I don't need to move the window. I need to make it wider. when I move my cursor to the right side of the window to get the left-right arrow, the scroll overlay appears under my cursor
[04:47] <kevdog> hi
[04:48] <kevdog> Lady`GirL: probably a man baby!
[04:48] <ghostnik11> kevdog, here is an imagebin, http://imagebin.org/205458
[04:48] <elky> kevdog, that's inappropriate.
[04:48] <rbrooks> can you move window so that the cursor change to resize?  thats what i was thinking
[04:48] <sacarlson> mefistofeles: yes; in fact I thought the default added users would have those settings
[04:48] <Lady`GirL> Biþey dicem
[04:49] <mefistofeles> sacarlson: no, I added users with "adduser" and still they can shutdown/reboot the machine
[04:49] <Seven_Six_Two> rbrooks, holding alt just moves the window. it doesn't give me the resize cursor.
[04:49] <mefistofeles> sacarlson: not even extra groups, just "users"
[04:49] <sacarlson> mefistofeles: try the users group gui and uncheck some stuf
[04:50] <kevdog> ghostnik11: and can you pastebin: sudo lpinfo -v
[04:50] <mefistofeles> sacarlson: the thing is that I need something to work for more than 200 users :P
[04:50] <ghostnik11> kevdog, here is pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/903327/
[04:50] <rbrooks> ok i thought you were needing to go further than the edge of the screen or something
[04:51] <sacarlson> mefistofeles:  must be a file that sets default settings or maybe create a script to add users with your settings you desire
[04:51] <kevdog> ghostnik11: Great, one more pastebin: sudo lpinfo -m | grep 560 | grep Canon
[04:51] <Lady`GirL> Hi ; I'm Turkey : City : ÝstanbuL :)
[04:51] <Braden`> http://pastebin.com/ggN1YcsQ <--- This is my /etc/network/interfaces configuration.  Right now, if I do:  service networking restart, the interfaces don't come up.  No error messages per se
[04:51] <rbrooks> maybe if you say what wm you use then someone can help alt+click usu moves but i dk resize Seven_Six_Two
[04:51] <mefistofeles> sacarlson: yeah I was looking for a file, but haven't been able to find it
[04:51] <CFHowlett> !tr|Lady`GirL
[04:51] <Yorak> Is there any way within Unity to center windows? There used to be a parameter that could be changed in gconf to center windows but it has not worked in Unity.
[04:51] <Lady`GirL> Thanks
[04:52] <Seven_Six_Two> rbrooks, it happens in unity and kde
[04:52] <rbrooks> ok neiother am i familliar with
[04:52] <Braden`> Does anyone know what I am doing wrong in that config?
[04:52] <ghostnik11> kevdog, here is the other pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/903328/
[04:53] <Lady`GirL> CFHowlett : mIRC Help :(
[04:53] <ActionParsnip> Yorak: I belive its a setting in ccsm, if not then you can use devilspie
[04:53] <CFHowlett> Lady`GirL   what's tthe problem?
[04:53] <Lady`GirL> Yes :(
[04:53] <kevdog> Braden`: Weird netmask
[04:53] <sacarlson> mefistofeles: I see that adduser is a bash script in /usr/sbin/adduser;  from looking at that you can modify or see what the default files it uses
[04:53] <ghostnik11> kevdog, here is the crazy thing, it keeps saying or i guess its an error but in gnome 3 which is what i use i can an incoming message saying printer is printing
[04:53] <CFHowlett> Lady`GirL   please describe the problem
[04:53] <ghostnik11> kevdog, but it keeps popping up, meaning its an error
[04:54] <Lady`GirL> Addon have a problem CFHowlett
[04:54] <James_WB> CFHowlett , installed the driver but I have no idea on how to procede forward ,
[04:54] <ActionParsnip> Braden`: is your network address correct for your netmask?
[04:54] <kevdog> ghostnik11: annoying messages from the message center, Ok I'm ready to give you the command:
[04:54] <rbrooks> Braden`, try eth0:1
[04:54] <monkeybox> Braden: try naming your virtual interface eth0:1
[04:54] <Yorak> ActionParsnip: Thank you. :-) Not sure what option that is in CCSM, but devilspie is the app I was looking for, the one I used ages ago.
[04:54] <CFHowlett> James_WB   and I already killed that link.  tell me the make/model of that modem again?
[04:55] <CFHowlett> Lady`GirL  do you have the firefox browser?
[04:55] <James_WB> h9601 by prolink  , you gave me eciadsl driver to install http://eciadsl.flashtux.org/download.php
[04:55] <Lady`GirL> Very slow connection with Turkey  , CFHowlett, James_WB  :)))
[04:56] <James_WB> once installed im clueless on how to procede
[04:56] <sacarlson> Braden`: you do realize that  address x.x.x.3  is not a valid ip address?
[04:56] <Braden`> sacarlson:  Read notes at the top
[04:56] <Braden`> Will change to 0:1
[04:56] <ghostnik11> kevdog, i still can't get why it works flawlessly on my thinkpad with the same ubuntu version but not on a compaq using the same ubuntu version, its comical
[04:56] <ActionParsnip> Yorak: grab gdevilspie from googlecode, makes life easier
[04:56] <CFHowlett> James_WB   see: http://ithelp4all.blogspot.com/2009/12/prolink-h9601-driver-installation-on.html
[04:57] <Lady`GirL> Get me a laptop CFHowlett :)))))
[04:58] <elky> Lady`GirL, we don't give out free laptops here, sorry.
[04:58] <CFHowlett> Lady`GirL   please join #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:58] <kevdog> ghostnik11: sudo lpadmin -E -p Canon -v cnijnet:/00-1E-8F-CD-EE-E6 -m canonmp560.ppd -L "Canon Pixma mp560" -E
[04:58] <James_WB> hmm, what is the synch.bin achive and how i set the parameters
[04:58] <mefistofeles> sacarlson: ok, thanks, gonna check that one
[04:58] <Braden`> # ifconfig eth0:1 up -> SIOCSIFFLAGS:  Cannot assign requested address
[04:59] <Yorak> ActionParsnip: Cool, a GUI interface. Does it make it fairly easy to simply center windows? Or do I have to program each app and the window size in there manually?
[04:59] <ActionParsnip> Yorak: not used it in years tbh, you'll have to see what it does
[04:59] <sacarlson> Braden`: I guess that's what it would say with  address x.x.x.3  veses address 192.168.2.3
[04:59] <monkeybox> Braden: also, you shouldn't need the broadcast or network since that should be assigned by the mask
[05:00] <Yorak> ActionParsnip: Alrighty, no problem. I have a 1920x1200 screen, but I am OCD about things. Oh, one more question. 12.04 will be the first time I have used Ubuntu on a laptop in 5+ years. Is there good fingerprint reader support?
[05:00] <ghostnik11> kevdog, okay that added a new printer with the name canon
[05:01] <kevdog> ghostnik11: do you see this in the gui?
[05:01] <Lady`GirL> 192.168.2.3 :D
[05:01] <James_WB> cfhowlett i found the updated article http://linuxmodems.blogspot.com/2010/05/prolink-h9601-modem-in-linux.html except i dont know how to pass the parameters given
[05:01] <Lady`GirL> James_WB Bak
[05:01] <Lady`GirL> öle olmaz
[05:01] <CFHowlett> James_WB   nor do I - sorry.
[05:02] <Lady`GirL> Bana Býrak Sen :)
[05:02] <Braden`> sacarlson:  I am using a real ip address.  I just don't want everyone here to know it.  Thus, the 'x's
[05:02] <ghostnik11> kevdog, yeah and when i do a test print its held like the canon mp560
[05:02] <phy1729> My users already have a password in the domain auth'd with samba; is it possible to use pam so that to login with ssh they must meet some minimum password requirements?
[05:02] <kevdog> ghostnik11: Is the printer on - ready to go -- off standby
[05:02] <Braden`> What would cause the error "SIOCSIFFLAGS:  Cannot assign requested address" when adding an ip alias?
[05:02] <CFHowlett> Lady`GirL   if you have an ubuntu support question, please ask.  otherwise, you should join #ubuntu-offtopic for general conversation
[05:02] <Lady`GirL> :D
[05:02] <Lady`GirL> CFHowlett Sanane?
[05:02] <Lady`GirL> No
[05:02] <Lady`GirL> No
[05:02] <Lady`GirL> :)))
[05:02] <FloodBot1> Lady`GirL: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:02] <ghostnik11> kevdog, yeah its on and connected to the network
[05:02] <monkeybox> Braden`: also, you shouldn't need the broadcast or network since that should be assigned by the mask
[05:03]  * Lady`GirL CFHowlett Fuuckk You !
[05:03] <James_WB> ok thanks again CFHowlett , hopefully i will get it to work
[05:03] <CFHowlett> !ops|Lady`GirL
[05:03] <Lady`GirL> :D
[05:03] <Lady`GirL> Sktir
[05:03]  * Lady`GirL CFHowlett Fuuckk You !
[05:03]  * Lady`GirL CFHowlett Fuuckk You ! hjkdlasþ
[05:03]  * Lady`GirL CFHowlett Fuuckk You ! Lol
[05:03]  * Lady`GirL CFHowlett Fuuckk You ! haahaha
[05:03] <FloodBot1> Lady`GirL: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:04]  * CFHowlett thinks there must be a full moon tonight...
[05:04] <ghostnik11> kevdog, here is imagebin: http://imagebin.org/205459
[05:04] <rbrooks_> Braden`, is that same error as with eth0:0?  i see it both weays, but seem to remember using eth0:1
[05:04] <kevdog> ghostnik11: Let me look up something else
[05:04] <ActionParsnip> che3ver: dr_willis probably left the cage open
[05:05] <Braden`> Does "ifconfig <iface> up" read /etc/networking/interfaces?
[05:05] <Braden`> rbrooks:  Same with both :/
[05:05] <rbrooks_> ifup
[05:05] <rbrooks_> hmm
[05:05] <rbrooks_> ipconfig deprecated
[05:06] <elky> CFHowlett, not until the 6th.
[05:06] <rbrooks_> lol ifconfig/ipconfig
[05:06] <CFHowlett> elky   :)
[05:06] <kevdog> ghostnik11: Can you pastebin /etc/cups/printers.conf
[05:08] <Seven_Six_Two> Here's the icon I need to widen a window:  http://tinypic.com/r/1038t42/5     Here's what I get on some windows:   http://tinypic.com/r/qzpsp4/5
[05:08] <gridbag> when you drag-and-drop a ~/.local/share/applications/myapp.desktop onto the Unity left-edge bar, where does that file go?
[05:09] <gridbag> is that a copy, or a symlink, or DB entry?
[05:10] <ghostnik11> kevdog, wait what are the commands to gain access to that file in gedit
[05:11] <kevdog> ghostnik11: Try this as well sudo lpc -PCanon noholdall
[05:11] <ghostnik11> kevdog, actually i just did it through nautilus will have it pastebined
[05:12] <kevdog> ghostnik11: gksu gedit /etc/cups/printers.conf or sudo more /etc/cups/printers.conf
[05:13] <ghostnik11> kevdog, here is pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/903357/
[05:14] <ghostnik11> kevdog, when i run sudo lpc -PCanon noholdall it says: -PCanon is not implemented by the CUPS version of lpc.
[05:14] <kevdog> ghostnik11: I'm curious -- with your working computer -- is your /etc/cups/printers.conf the same
[05:15] <ActionParsnip> kevdog: why sudo more, users can read the file...
[05:15] <phy1729> Is it possible to use pam to check password requirements on login not on password change?
[05:15] <kevdog> ghostnik11: how about sudo lpc -P Canon noholdall Canon
[05:16] <quickbrownfox> Is it possible to remove the input text box for xchat? I'd like to have it more like irssi, where the input text area is a part of the chat log.
[05:18] <research4oscar> where can i read up on setting groups and users for /var/www
[05:18] <kevdog> ghostnik11: In your gui -- if you right click on the printer name on either the windows, do you get an option to view print queue?
[05:19] <scottj> quickbrownfox: in irssi the input text area is separated from chat log by statusbars.
[05:19] <ghostnik11> kevdog, no i don't get option to view print queue, to see what jobs are active i must go to show
[05:20] <quickbrownfox> scottj, okay. But is there any way to customize the input text area in xchat besides having it match the chat log in colours and font?
[05:20] <kevdog> ghostnik11: No option to restart the job, reset the queue, reconnect printer, etc?
[05:20] <terminhell> ello ello
[05:20] <ghostnik11> kevdog, also the other command gets the same response -pcanon is not implemented by the cups version of lpc
[05:20] <kevdog> ghostnik11: Ok forget that command then.
[05:21] <scottj> quickbrownfox: like what?
[05:21] <ghostnik11> kevdog, nope, no option like that but in my thinkpad there are such options
[05:21] <quickbrownfox> scottj, anything to make it more minimal. Having it get rid of my username on the left for one.
[05:21] <quickbrownfox> Removing the bars that seperate it from the chat log would be SUPER. Getting rid of the modify text button on the right.
[05:22] <scottj> quickbrownfox: don't know, there's probably an xchat channel
[05:22] <terminhell> just use irssi :p
[05:23] <monkeybox> terminhell: +1
[05:23] <quickbrownfox> I've used the cygwin version of it. It just looks like hell with bug.n so
[05:23] <ome> weechat-curses FTW.
[05:23] <quickbrownfox> Also, it felt kind of broken.
[05:23] <ActionParsnip> pidgin!
[05:24] <ome> btw, I am still looking for apt index files location, or a way to refoce reload them.
[05:24] <terminhell> irssi is like reading the matrix, after a while you dont even see the join/exit errata
[05:24] <foobArrr> netcat!
[05:26] <kevdog> ghnostnik11: Are you sure within your browser http://localhost:631/admin doesnt do anything?
[05:26] <ghostnik11> kevdog, well just now it did something gave me options to add printer and other stuff
[05:27] <ghostnik11> kevdog, should i search for printer? using that link?
[05:28] <ghostnik11> kevdog, when i go to manage jobs, all the jobs in the link say aborted can't get host name
[05:29] <kevdog> Can you add a printer?  Yes once again try it
[05:29] <kevdog> ghostnik11: Ok I'm thinking then when I set up the last printer maybe I should try with the socket method
[05:30] <ghostnik11> kevdog, its asking for a user name and password should i go ahead with this method or wait for socket method
[05:31] <kevdog> ghostnik11: Just type in your username and password -- it worked for me but I'm the only user on the computer
[05:31] <ghostnik11> kevdog, okay so after putting in my username and password it doesn't show my printer
[05:32] <ActionParsnip> ghostnik11: if you make a fresh user, is it ok there?
[05:32] <ghostnik11> kevdog, it shows no discovered printer
[05:33] <kevdog> ghostnik11: So same damm problem
[05:34] <kevdog> ghostnik11: sudo lpadmin -x Canon
[05:34] <kevdog> ghostnik11: This will remove what we setup earlier
[05:35] <kevdog> ghostnik11: Try this...
[05:35] <ghostnik11> kevdog, just ran command and removed it
[05:35] <tester3> test1
[05:35] <kevdog> ghostnik11: sudo lpadmin -E -p Canon -v socket://<ip address of printer here> -m canonmp560.ppd -L "Canon Pixma mp560" -E
[05:36] <tester2> test2
[05:36] <kevdog> ghostnik11: Now what happens when you try to print test page
[05:37] <tester3> test1
[05:37] <ghostnik11> kevdog, okay ran command and it readded printer will try test page
[05:38] <tester2> test2
[05:39] <kevdog> quit with the damn tests
[05:40] <ghostnik11> kevdog, still doesn't print, it just says printing job held in gui
[05:40] <terminhell> right, stop troubleshooting. best way to do it
[05:40] <kevdog> ghostnik11: What does the http interface say?
[05:40] <willfrand> hola, que tal
[05:41] <Dulak> !es | willfrand
[05:42] <willfrand> hola, que tal, tengo un equipo con procesador amd k6, alguien puede recomendarme una distro que corra bien en el? le metí el cd de linux 10.10 y me sale This kernel requires the following features not present on the CPU : cmov      Unable to boot - please use a kernel appropiate for your CPU alguien puede ayudarme?
[05:43] <ghostnik11> http interface says not printer detected when i tell it to find new printer and when i go to add it shows this: http://imagebin.org/205462
[05:43] <trollzor> .-.
[05:43] <ghostnik11> kevdog, http interface says not printer detected when i tell it to find new printer and when i go to add it shows this: http://imagebin.org/205462
[05:45] <ghostnik11> kevdog, when i check jobs in http, it says printer is busy but its been busy for 7 mins now, i don't get it, its like an error occurs when i tell it to print, could it be due to gnome 3
[05:46] <user1> hi, pgadminIII error: passwd authentication failed for user "postgres" in ubuntu 10.04 server, pls help me..
[05:46] <ActionParsnip> willfrand: seems the K6 is an i586 CPU which isn't supported by the kernel
[05:47] <kevdog> ghostnik11: I'm drawing blanks on this one --
[05:48] <kevdog> ghostnik11: under add printer what does it do if you choose ipp?
[05:49] <ghostnik11> kevdog, it just puts ipp then tells me to put location
[05:49] <ghostnik11> kevdog,  i think i am going to just accept the fact that the printer doesn't like the compaq and thats why it doesn't work
[05:50] <ghostnik11> kevdog, you just can't mix oil and water and this is that case because the thinkpad works well in ubuntu 11.10 with the printer but the compaq doesn't
[05:51] <kevdog> ghostnik11: want to try another driver?
[05:52] <ghostnik11> kevdog, no its okay bro, thanks for all your help, i have to head into city tomorrow
[05:52] <kevdog> ghostik11: will take less than 3 min, but do whatever you need to
[05:52] <ghostnik11> kevdog, okay lets try it, i just think the compaq is not compatible with the printer
[05:53] <kevdog> ghostnik11: sudo lpadmin -x Canon
[05:53] <ghostnik11> kevdog, okay it removed it
[05:53]  * texxy slapping time
[05:54]  * texxy slaps FloodBot1 around a bit with a large trout
[05:54]  * texxy slaps FloodBot2 around a bit with a large trout
[05:54]  * texxy slaps FloodBot3 around a bit with a large trout
[05:54]  * texxy slaps 13WAAPKAQ around a bit with a large trout
[05:54] <FloodBot1> texxy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:54]  * texxy slaps [1]Jwilx around a bit with a large trout
[05:54] <CFHowlett> !ops|texxy
[05:54] <user1> hi, pls help me...
[05:54] <CFHowlett> user1   state the problem
[05:54] <kevdog> ghostnik11: sudo lpadmin -E -p Canon -v cnijnet:/00-1E-8F-CD-EE-E6 -m gutenprint.5.2://bjc-i560/simple Canon i560 -L "Canon Pixma mp560" -E
[05:55] <kevdog> ghostnik11: Try printing test page
[05:55] <user1> hi, pgadminIII error: passwd authentication failed for user "postgres" in ubuntu 10.04 server, pls help me..
[05:55] <user1> CFHowlett, pls help it...
[05:56] <ghostnik11> kevdog, i keep getting an unknown argument when i run the command
[05:57] <kevdog> CFHowlett: mighty fast on the ops
[05:57] <brun0l3z> I am dying: I am using tor to browse alibaba.com but for some reason they keep blocking and closing my accounts. any help on how they get to know?
[05:57] <kevdog> ghostnik11: sudo lpadmin -E -p Canon -v cnijnet:/00-1E-8F-CD-EE-E6 -m gutenprint.5.2://bjc-i560/expert -L "Canon Pixma mp560" -E
[05:57] <CFHowlett> user1   beyond my area of expertise.  sorry.  Be patient and ask the channel after 15 minutes.  Also ask in #ubuntu-server
[05:58] <ghostnik11> kevdog, that worked will try a test page now
[05:58] <kevdog> ghostnik11: If that doesn't work, we'll try one more and then call it quits
[05:59] <terminhell> brun0l3z: I think you have more to worry about than browser proxy's
[05:59] <ghostnik11> kevdog, didn't work and the last test print i tried even though we erased this same printer and added it again came back once we added it again
[06:00] <kevdog> We can try another name like this:
[06:00] <Braden`> Is there really a known bug with ip aliases with Ubuntu 11.10?
[06:00] <kevdog> ghostnik11: sudo lpadmin -E -p Canon1 -v cnijnet:/00-1E-8F-CD-EE-E6 -m gutenprint.5.2://bjc-i560/expert -L "Canon Pixma mp560" -E
[06:00] <Braden`> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1870364
[06:01] <ghostnik11> kevdog, added it and then told it to print and went straight to print job being held
[06:01] <brun0l3z> HELLLLLLLLLLLLLO how does alibaba.com know that i am using tor and keep blocking my accounts?
[06:02] <Xabster> brun0l3z, this is #ubuntu - did you join the wrong channel?
[06:02] <CFHowlett> brun0l3z   ask in #tor
[06:02] <terminhell> brun0l3z: MAC address?
[06:02] <kevdog> ghostnik11: Here is my last bit of advice since I'm really striking out on this one and I'm just making random swings, on the computer that works, look at the /etc/cups/printers.conf file and just either copy this file or make the necessary corrections to the current file.  You want them to be the same (at least I think you do except for maybe the UUID line)
[06:04] <ghostnik11> kevdog, here is the thing i can't get the thinkpad on which is the computer that works because battery burned out and charger melted on its own after 6 years of use, thats why i had to switch to this backup laptop thats a compaq
[06:04] <brun0l3z> terminhell you have an idea there
[06:04] <kevdog> ghostnik11: also check /var/log/syslog like tail -50 /var/log/syslog for any clues
[06:04] <brun0l3z> I am using Backtrack 5 and can change my mac easily
[06:05] <kevdog> ghostnik11: You're killin' me smalls!
[06:05] <CFHowlett> brun0l3z   backtrack isn't supported here.
[06:05] <ghostnik11> kevdog, i have just accepted it, i need to go drop the cash on a new laptop or  netbook
[06:06] <kevdog> ghostnik11: Maybe -- I'm out on this one
[06:06] <ghostnik11> kevdog, yo i am going to call it quits, thanks for the help bro, you worked your hardest but this compaq just sucks
[06:06] <ghostnik11> kevdog, thanks again for all the help
[06:07] <kevdog> ghostnik11: I'm off to bed, see ya
[06:07] <ghostnik11> Kevdog, take care bro me too
[06:15] <lewis> hi
[06:15] <CFHowlett> lewis   greetings
[06:16] <uBUXUBu> i wonder why it takes so long to pull up programs in unity-frsh install, dual core, 2g ram?
[06:17] <uBUXUBu> i like it but i gotta admit its slow
[06:17] <dr-willis> 'pull up programs' means?
[06:17] <uBUXUBu> apps i should say
[06:17] <dr-willis> 'pull up' means....
[06:17] <l_r> heh
[06:17] <uBUXUBu> like i search, find an app i like click on it and...wait
[06:18] <uBUXUBu> app, program, built in software whatever the frick u like to call it sheez
[06:18] <uBUXUBu> click....wait....app appears
[06:18] <uBUXUBu> sometimes 3-5 seconds even
[06:19] <dr-willis> i understand the term app. just not clear on what you ment by pull up.. aparently you mean 'launch'
[06:19] <uBUXUBu> ok launch
[06:20] <dr-willis> if you launch the same app a second time. is it much faster
[06:20] <uBUXUBu> my cpu is not being stessed nor is my ram anywhere near used up i wonder why its so slow at launching an application
[06:20] <uBUXUBu> yes the 2nd time it is cahced i suppose
[06:21] <uBUXUBu> cached
[06:21] <dr-willis> that points to hd speeds being the issue.
[06:21] <uBUXUBu> hmmm
[06:21] <uBUXUBu> well it is a 5400rpmmmer
[06:22] <uBUXUBu> but its a duallshooter and we all know how slow vista is and it doesnt pull apps up as slow
[06:22] <dr-willis> hd's are the main bottleneck these days
[06:22] <uBUXUBu> but u know...i like unity enough that ill put up with it
[06:22] <uczen> hi
[06:22] <uBUXUBu> maybe ill but a lil ssd
[06:23] <CFHowlett> uczen   greetings
[06:23]  * uBUXUBu offers uczen  some celery...
[06:23] <uczen> whats up?
[06:24] <uBUXUBu> is there a ubuntu managemt or ubuntu developers chaannel?
[06:24] <CFHowlett> uBUXUBu   #ubuntu-devel
[06:24] <uBUXUBu> ok ty
[06:25] <uBUXUBu> i just cant get over how nice this new ubuntu is
[06:26] <uBUXUBu> those old desktops looked terrible compared to this
[06:26] <dr-willis> mi3:  keep it in the channel please
[06:27] <mi3> ok dr-willis
[06:27] <phy1729> Is it possible to use pam to check password requirements on login not on password change?
[06:30] <mi3> I have a particular scenario, I have a dual boot system [ubuntu and xp], now xp aint working nicely[which I always expect when I come on windows]. so I wanna remove xp. The thing is, the boot.ini file of xp is on C drive and the actual Windows directories and the Program files are on E, so how can I remove the E drive and also the grub menu entry of xp?
[06:30] <Upl1nk> hi
[06:31] <dr-willis> delete/repartion the widows partitions and rerun update-grub
[06:31] <CFHowlett> mi3   as far as grub entries, just reinstall grub after you kill windows.  No windows =  no grub entry for windows
[06:31] <dr-willis> you are not using wubi are you?
[06:31] <CFHowlett> uplink greetings
[06:32] <mi3> and what about that windows partition? should I just format it?
[06:32] <dr-willis> or resize the linux parts over it
[06:32] <CFHowlett> mi3 you can use gparted for that...
[06:33] <Upl1nk> @noosh you should perform a clean install of ubuntu, itś easier... if possible
[06:33] <noosh> lol
[06:33] <mi3> thanks CFHowlett dr-willis
[06:33] <lotuspsychje> and loose the windows :p
[06:33] <CFHowlett> mi3   have fun / be safe
[06:33] <Upl1nk> of course
[06:33] <mi3> heres another thing that came to my mind
[06:34] <mi3> I wanna re install xp[I cant live without games], so when we install xp, the grub loader is removed, right? Is there any other way to recover it from windows?[I know boot-repair is the easy way]
[06:35] <dr-willis> !fixgrub
[06:35] <dr-willis> windows has tools to reinstall the windows mbr
[06:35] <joint> hello
[06:35] <dr-willis> if you dont want linux anymore
[06:35] <joint> the fake mods in ubuntu offtopic banned me for no reason
[06:35] <mi3> I want linux I want linux[cant live without linux also]
[06:36] <joint> its not my fault. i forgot i was in nazi germany
[06:36] <Upl1nk> well im not sure but maybe the wubi can help you
[06:36] <dr-willis> mi3:  then use grub
[06:36] <joint> please.. forgive me
[06:36] <BPADHEE> m having problem with libreoffice, pl help
[06:36] <josten> I downloaded GParted and looked at my partitions.  I installed ubuntu 11.10 from the Ubuntu Unleashed 2012 Edition book that covers 11.10 and 12.04.  Why is there a ntfs partition?  Window XP Pro finds it, but there is nothing on the drive.  Seems windows slowed down.  I have 2 identical hd's.
[06:36] <mi3> so, after installing windows, to save linux, i will need boot-repair....
[06:36] <Gere> Pls guy I need your help I lost my file in ubuntu any one can help me
[06:37] <dr-willis> mi3 reinstall the grub bootloader
[06:38] <dr-willis> Gere:  clarify the issue
[06:38] <mi3> yeah thats what i am gonna do dr-willis I am gonna use boot-repair from the live cd
[06:38] <BuisSse> is there a way I can remove all compiling related software after i have completed installing the application?
[06:39] <BuisSse> e.g uninstall build-essential
[06:39] <mi3> thanks for refreshing and giving me some new tips, dr-willis
[06:39] <mi3> thanks for refreshing and giving me some new tips, dr-willis
[06:39] <Upl1nk> @Gere http://content.hccfl.edu/pollock/Unix/FindCmd.htm -> open terminal a use command find
[06:39] <noosh> sudo apt-get remove <package>  I think
[06:40] <dr-willis> most apps need more then just 'build-essential' to compile
[06:40] <Gere> Ok I had  one folder in Desktop file name is Desktop there was a lot of file in side the folder Desktop always I made hide when  leave from my office{mv Desktop .Desktop} today i couldn't open my folder
[06:40]  * mi3 thinks, dont some people receive a "welcome" when someone thanks them?
[06:40] <dr-willis> its easier to install meta packages.. then to remove all they pull in.
[06:41] <dr-willis> Gere:  so your stuff is in the .Desktop dir?
[06:42] <noosh> mi3: how do you "think"? in irc?
[06:42] <BPADHEE> m having problem with libreoffice, pl help
[06:42] <Gere> Now in my Desktop the is no any type of file
[06:42] <rbrooks> mi3, i usu dont, but now i may
[06:42] <rbrooks> thank you
[06:43] <BPADHEE> m having problem with libreoffice, pl help
[06:43] <BuisSse> for me the disk space is an issue
[06:43] <mi3> welcome[for no apparent reason]
[06:43] <rbrooks> :D
[06:43] <BuisSse> build-essential install uses up around 68MB
[06:43] <dr-willis> why would you be  moving desktop around ayway...
[06:43] <mi3> did I help you in any way, rbrooks ?
[06:43] <BuisSse> remove strips off only some KB
[06:43] <noosh> BPADHEE: whats the problem?
[06:43] <rbrooks> yeah you made me re-consider that i may be rude
[06:44] <maximilius> BuisSse: i would go manually through the list of installed packages with aptitude e.g. and kick off those which you dont need
[06:45] <maximilius> BuisSse: there is also a dpkg.log in /var/log somewhere that should provide info which packages were installed for your compiling
[06:45] <maximilius> (i hopethere still is)
[06:45] <BuisSse> thanks
[06:45] <Guest52936> hello, i need a package manager that when i uninstall a software it uninstall all the dependencies it installed before
[06:45] <josten> why do I have a ntfs partition on my unbuntu drive?
[06:45] <AndroUser> Hithere
[06:46] <dr-willis> josten:  windows leftover.. delete it if its empty
[06:46] <Upl1nk> Guest52936 install aptitude
[06:46] <mrcellfizh> yeah but i need one with a gui
[06:46] <foobArrr> Guest52936: apt-get autoremove
[06:47] <josten> dr-willis: I've reinstalled ubuntu several times by default settings.  WinXP keeps finding it, but it's just a blank drive.
[06:47] <Gere> dr-willis even the trash folder i couln't see where can i fine
[06:47] <mrcellfizh> well thanks anyway
[06:48] <Gere> dr-willis:  even the trash folder i couln't see where can i find it ?
[06:48] <dr-willis> josten:  so... delete it and resize the linux partitions.
[06:49] <josten> dr-willis: windows has never been on that drive.  Mandriva was on before.  Both drive are identical.  I have something like 14 partitions.
[06:49] <dr-willis> Gere:  look in your home with a file manager, try the find command and ls -R output.
[06:49] <Upl1nk> mrcellfizh  Synaptic Package Manager maybe?
[06:49] <dr-willis> josten:  14? sounds rather disorganized. and perhapes a confused partition layout.
[06:50] <dr-willis> time to go do my real job. bbl
[06:51] <josten> dr-willis: I used the default rather than /, /home, /swap
[06:51] <Upl1nk> @mrcellfizh  Synaptic Package Manager maybe?
[06:54] <elbrinke> Hi everyone… I need some help with getting a shell script (.sh) to run as deamon
[06:54] <elbrinke> in ubuntu
[06:54] <beasty> elbrinke: ..
[06:55] <elbrinke> hi beasty
[06:55] <maximilius> elbrinke: really as daemon or just periodically?
[06:55] <elbrinke> as deamon… it needs to be constantly running….
[06:55] <Gere> dr-willis: I could't see the the folder Trash and Is there any mechanism to recover my files?
[06:57] <beasty> elbrinke: nohup <script> &
[06:58] <elbrinke> ok… will try that...
[06:58] <elbrinke> i did look into that but for some reason it did not work correctly.. will check again
[07:04] <rajarshi> how to run jar files in ubuntu 11.10
[07:04] <rajarshi> can some1 help?????
[07:05] <ActionParsnip> rajarshi: java filename.jar
[07:05] <bazhang> rajarshi, minecraft?
[07:05] <rajarshi> minecrft????
[07:05] <rajarshi> wats it??
[07:05] <bazhang> rajarshi, see what ActionParsnip said above
[07:05] <mr-squidley> rajarshi: its a game
[07:06] <Krasik> hi
[07:06] <Num83rGuy> Ah, a new one gets sucked in.
[07:06] <Krasik> I have a question for someone
[07:06] <ibiwor> Hello! I've separate /, /var and /usr partitions. I'd like to know whether I can merge them all as a single root partition?
[07:06] <rajarshi> i usd it but it said cudnot find d main clas
[07:07] <Krasik> I have an ATI Xpress 1150 on Ubuntu 12.04, having a hard time installing the approproiate driver, any help would be greatly appreciated!
[07:07] <konaya> ibiwor, did you set up your partitions with LVM?
[07:07] <ibiwor> konaya: No
[07:07] <ActionParsnip> Krasik: #ubuntu+1 for precise support
[07:08] <Krasik> okay, thanks!
[07:08] <rajarshi> with  java -jar filename.jar it said faild to load manifest attribute
[07:08] <mtrd_> Hello, i'm running ubuntu and tried to follow this page, because i had a program going wild. Now my desktop has the folders from /home/user in it
[07:08] <rajarshi> wat to do now??
[07:08] <rajarshi> m using ubuntu 11.10
[07:08] <fidel> mtrd_: which page?
[07:08] <ActionParsnip> rajarshi: what is the output of: lsb_release -sc
[07:09] <mtrd_> fidel, http://www.cfd-online.com/Forums/ansys-meshing/94884-gambit-2-3-16-ubuntu-10-04-a.html from the villager
[07:09] <rajarshi> oneiric
[07:09] <mr-squidley> rajarshi: you'll find your may your missing dependency or the .jar is corrupt. Check everything is updated to latest version.
[07:09] <ActionParsnip> Mtrd: what is the output of: lsb_release -sc
[07:10] <mr-squidley> rajarshi: you'll find your may be missing dependency or the .jar is corrupt. Check everything is updated to latest version.  (terrible typing apologies)
[07:10] <rajarshi> wat r tthings i shud update now??
[07:10] <mtrd_> ActionParsnip, oneiric.
[07:10] <konaya> ibiwor, ah. Then the easiest way is simply to move all files over to /, remove the other partitions, and then resize / to fill the remaining space.
[07:10] <ActionParsnip> rajarshi: and the output of: java -version
[07:10] <mr-squidley> start with java mate and work your way through to your jar ActionParsnip has provided a good starting point
[07:10] <rajarshi> java version 1.6.0
[07:11] <xnixan> Hi, i had configure ubuntu 11.10 laptop to be as hotspot, but the problem, it is not visible to other devices !
[07:11] <rajarshi> 1.6-0-26
[07:11] <Krasik> okay
[07:11] <xnixan> any idea, what it might be?
[07:11] <Krasik> since 12.04 is having issues with my ATI, should I downgrade to 11.10?
[07:12] <dc5ala> rajarshi, starting program in a jar, you would do like this: java -jar program.jar
[07:12] <ActionParsnip> Krasik: you will need to reinstall
[07:12] <curiousx> Krasik: wich driver version do you have?
[07:12] <rajarshi> i did it..
[07:12] <Krasik> I'm not sure
[07:12] <ActionParsnip> mtrd_: www.simplehelp.net/2008/08/26/how-to-use-your-home-folder-as-your-desktop-in-ubuntu/
[07:13] <curiousx> Krasik: open the ATI manager
[07:13] <mtrd_> ActionParsnip, thank you! trying that.
[07:13] <rajarshi> it showd faild to load clas manifest
[07:13] <Krasik> not sure how
[07:13] <Krasik> new to this version of linux
[07:13] <Krasik> and I'm having issues down the xorg core driver
[07:13] <Krasik> well, I'm not in linux at the moment
[07:13] <ActionParsnip> rajarshi: could try installing Oracle Java
[07:13] <dc5ala> rajarshi, then there is something missing in the jar or wrong jar. What program is it?
[07:13] <ibiwor> konaya: You mean copy all the files/folders from /usr and /var to / an then delete /usr, /var. Later merge / with empty space?
[07:14] <rajarshi> emulator progrm
[07:14] <curiousx> well... if you dont downloaded and installed the lastest version from ATI so you should, i can help you with that
[07:14] <ActionParsnip> Krasik: precise isn't supported here til release day
[07:14] <konaya> ibiwor, pretty much.
[07:14] <Krasik> ah
[07:14] <Krasik> okay, thanks.
[07:15] <mr-squidley> the term beta software is missed often
[07:15] <konaya> ibiwor, you might need to reinstall grub afterwards, depending on how messed up your table was to begin with.
[07:15] <ibiwor> konaya: Okay :S
[07:16] <curiousx> KrissyP: wget http://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/amd-driver-installer-12-2-x86.x86_64.run
[07:16] <SugarCube> Hmm, if an Ubuntu Server installation is headless and being connected to via Vino, is there any way to change the screen resolution? All options are grayed out in System Settings -> Display. I'd rather not physically connect a monitor just for the option.
[07:16] <dc5ala> rajarshi, can you give me the link to it? My guess is, that something in the jar is broken, or not complete. E.g. missing the manifest file or with bad main class
[07:16] <konaya> ibiwor, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1893161
[07:16] <malkauns> how do u get conky to stay always on top as opposed to always below other windows?
[07:16] <yoshie> ubuntu 64bit  helpe please, installed new 2TB WD hard drive sata , fresh install getting error ( NO BOOTABLE DEVICE -- INSERT BOOT DISK AND PRESS ANY KEY )
[07:17] <ibiwor> konaya: Secondly, I got ~5GB swap partition which I would like to delete. RAM is 6GB. In live mode, can I delete swap partition and create swap file following http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?s=87287a965e21a58edf4bb776a030542c&p=6520424&postcount=8 ?
[07:17] <mr-squidley> SugarCube: try xandr although i dont know if it will have much effect on your remote session although
[07:17] <bazhang> malkauns, checked the conky beginners guide yet?
[07:17] <ActionParsnip> yoshie: set the boot device as the internal drive in BIOS
[07:18] <malkauns> bazhang, yea but nothing works
[07:18] <bazhang> yoshie, is that the correct boot device? does not sound like a successful install if so
[07:18] <yoshie> ActionParsnip: any idea what im looking for in bios?
[07:18] <yoshie> bazhang: yeah it didnt show any errors, and this is the second cd i maid just to make sure
[07:18] <curiousx> sry Krasik: wget http://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/amd-driver-installer-12-2-x86.x86_64.run
[07:18] <ActionParsnip> yoshie: setting the hard drive as the primary boot devise
[07:19] <konaya> ibiwor, holy cow. Why on Earth did you feel the need to have 5GB of swap? :S
[07:19] <ibiwor> konaya: Sorry, 2GB*
[07:19] <ActionParsnip> curiousx: please support precise in #ubuntu+1 thanks
[07:19] <malkauns> bazhang, i tried "own_window_hints above" but it doesnt work
[07:19] <mtrd_> Hi again, it didn't work with gconf-editor, it always already checked out (e.g desktop != /home/user) i tried to set it, and then disable it, didn't work. any ideas ?
[07:19] <curiousx> ok
[07:19] <ActionParsnip> konaya: hibernate etc uses swap
[07:20] <konaya> ibiwor, and, to answer your question, yes you should. As long as you do swapoff /dev/<your swap partition> first
[07:20] <anthropos> is there any obvious reason why seahorse won't add passwords to any of my keyrings
[07:20] <yoshie> ActionParsnip: set hard drive as first boot device and still getting same error
[07:20] <Krasik> Curiousx: Thanks!
[07:20] <anthropos> they simply don't show up when I try to add them
[07:20] <konaya> ActionParsnip, ah, that explains it. I only use suspend, so I wouldn't know :)
[07:21] <ibiwor> konaya: Ok, so the first step before http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?s=87287a965e21a58edf4bb776a030542c&p=6520424&postcount=8 should be to do <swapoff swap-partition> ?
[07:21] <curiousx> Krasik: we have to go at #ubuntu+1
[07:21] <Krasik> Okay
[07:21] <konaya> ibiwor, yup. I suppose it goes without saying that you do this without a lot of processes in the background and so on and so forth.
[07:23] <konaya> ibiwor, also, don't forget to remove the old swap entry in /etc/fstab when you write the new entry. The ability to boot the system is quite handy to keep.
[07:23] <ibiwor> konaya: Yes. So I can first run swapoff command then uncomment the swap parition from fstab before following the above forum post, ok?
[07:23] <yoshie> ubuntu 64bit  help  please, installed new 2TB WD hard drive sata , fresh install getting error ( NO BOOTABLE DEVICE -- INSERT BOOT DISK AND PRESS ANY KEY )
[07:23] <konaya> ibiwor, I guess you meant comment. Otherwise, yes
[07:24] <disappearedng> Hey what is the possibility that an outgoing port (meaning I want my users to connect to my server at port 8888) being blocked?
[07:24] <ibiwor> konaya: Yea, comment* :)
[07:24] <bazhang> yoshie, no caps
[07:24] <konaya> yoshie, checked the BIOS for proper boot order and so on?
[07:24] <SugarCube> mr-squidley:  Woo, that worked with a little bit of trying. :)
[07:24] <konaya> bazhang, I think it was a verbatim quote
[07:25] <mr-squidley> SugarCube: this often do mate. First stop google i always say
[07:25] <yoshie> konaya: yes bios seems to be good
[07:25] <konaya> disappearedng, don't you mean incoming port in that case? From your point of view, that is
[07:25] <disappearedng> well I know my port won't be blocked for sure
[07:26] <disappearedng> I just wanna make sure that my user's port won't be blocked as well
[07:26] <konaya> yoshie, hm. Have you tried reinstalling GRUB from a Live CD?
[07:26] <disappearedng> wait how does connection accepting work. Let say there's A and B and if A wants to connect to B at port 8888 does A need to have some kind of unblocked port 8888?
[07:26] <SugarCube> Already went through the first two pages of Google results. Anyway, seems to be working now.
[07:26] <yoshie> konaya: no i have no, is there any way you can walk me threw that? im pretty new to linux
[07:27] <anthropos> disappearedng, when a remote computer tries to connect to your computer on port 8888, it can be blocked by you (e.g. if you have a firewall) or your isp (e.g. if they block traffic to this port)
[07:27] <anthropos> these are the most likely reasons it might be blocked
[07:27] <konaya> disappearedng, it is fairly uncommon for outgoing ports to be blocked willy-nilly. If you want to be totally sure, put the service on a port which is often used for other things
[07:27] <anthropos> i think he means incoming when he says outgoing
[07:27] <anthropos> since he's talking about his computer being a server and so on
[07:27] <disappearedng> konaya: I am just doing a beta launch, no biggie I doubt it will be blocked
[07:28] <anthropos> if you want to know if its likely to be blocked you can look what service is there by default
[07:28] <konaya> anthropos, he also could mean "is it common for corporate IT heads to fascistically block outgoing ports?" :)
[07:28] <CalvinMcGee> I have a thought on implementing a chat in our office. Like the functionality of Lotus Sametime connect. So you can see all the workers when they login and chat with them. What would be the best way of implementing that? I'm thinking about ejabberd xmpp-server, but have no experience of it. Any thoughts?
[07:28] <disappearedng> OK to clear confusion: A is a server, B is a client and needs to connect to A's port 8888. What's the chance that B cannot connect to A due to some firewall restriction or w/e
[07:29] <konaya> yoshie, in that case I'd need some background information. You bought a new drive, right? Did it replace your old drive or is the old drive still installed?
[07:29] <anthropos> check what service is normally on 8888, but i doubt its blocked.
[07:29] <disappearedng> what about universities?
[07:29] <anthropos> as konaya says, blocking outgoing ports is unusual
[07:29] <anthropos> occasionally isps will block traffic thats outgoing to port 25 and such
[07:30] <konaya> disappearedng, no universities worth going to blocks outgoing ports. Heck, my university doesn't block *incoming* ports, and we do not NAT :D
[07:30] <disappearedng> ok I will use something like 64k+
[07:30] <sveinse> I'm running natty and lately I'm always forced to run "sudo update-binfmts --enable qemu-arm" when I'm about to run armel code on intel. Is there a change in policy of late regarding this since it's constantly disabled?
[07:30] <disappearedng> ok that's a good enough sample thanks guys
[07:30] <yoshie> konaya: I had a 500gb hard drive in the computer before, so i took it out and upgraded to a 2TB , this is also a Intel pent mother board, so i only have the 2TB installed right now, the drive is brand new and works, i has no problem with windows 7 or with mandriva linux , it only has a problem with ubuntu and fedora.
[07:30] <anthropos> ports that will almost certainly not be blocked are https, etc.
[07:31] <anthropos> unless you live in iran or something.
[07:31] <konaya> yoshie, and you have installed Ubuntu on this new drive? (Sorry, need to ask)
[07:31] <anthropos> is it a gpt or msdos partition table
[07:31] <yoshie> konaya: yes the new drive has ubuntu installed, right now its booting up the live cd to get me to the live desktop
[07:32] <konaya> anthropos, port 22 outgoing is not blocked from China to Sweden, so I doubt Iran is any worse :P
[07:32] <anthropos> iran blocked https for awhile
[07:32] <konaya> Oh, really?
[07:32] <konaya> Silly.
[07:32] <bazhang> sveinse, tried in #ubuntu-arm ? your question seems it might get better answers there
[07:32] <anthropos> yeah, not presently, but back when there were demonstrations and so on
[07:32] <konaya> yoshie, which version, by the way?
[07:33] <yoshie> konaya: newest one 11.10  64 bit
[07:33] <bazhang> yoshie, single or dual boot, regular or Wubi
[07:33] <bazhang> yoshie, has it *ever* successfully booted on this new drive
[07:33] <yoshie> bazhang: single, dedicated all to ubuntu :)
[07:34] <yoshie> bazhang: successfully booted ubuntu? no, windows ? yes, mandriva? yes
[07:34] <konaya> yoshie, okay. I will privmsg you the commands so we do not spam the channel
[07:34] <bazhang> konaya, PM?
[07:35] <bazhang> yoshie, so there were others on there?
[07:35] <yoshie> bazhang: yes, however i formated and did a clean install of ubuntu
[07:35] <bazhang> yoshie, and you installed ubuntu and it has never successfully booted?
[07:35] <konaya> bazhang, on IRC it's privmsg or query, depending, but yeah same principle.
[07:35] <yoshie> bazhang: correct
[07:36] <bazhang> konaya, just wondering why you cannot share the instructions in channel here
[07:38] <Coke> Hi. I have a shell script in ~/bin/myscript.sh, is it possible to make it available when searching in "Home" and possibly put it in the launcher?
[07:38] <konaya> bazhang, I could, if you really want to?
[07:38] <konaya> I'm basically relaying whatever's in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[07:38] <Kotus> Coke, available?
[07:38] <Coke> Kotus: when I search for it, it's nowhere
[07:38] <mun> hi
[07:38] <mun> does anyone know how to check what model my motherboard is?
[07:38] <Coke> Kotus: I have made myscript.desktop in .local/share/appliactions
[07:39] <Coke> Kotus: it doesnt show up when searching nor can I put it in the launcher
[07:40] <Kotus> Coke, export PATH=$PATH:/home/name/bin i think
[07:40] <mun> nvm
[07:41] <fidel> mun: an easy way is usually to open up the box - in case you can access it ;)
[07:41] <mun> or, sudo dmidecode -t baseboard
[07:41] <fidel> ;)
[07:41] <Kotus> Coke, i dont think ~/bin/ gets included so you can add export PATH=.. to ~/.bash_profile ( or ~/.bashrc )
[07:42] <Kotus> Coke, if you don't understand do echo $PATH :)
[07:43] <Coke> Kotus: thats not what im asking for
[07:43] <Coke> Kotus: I'm asking to have it in the SEARCH when you press the ubuntu logo
[07:43] <Coke> the Home thingy or whatever you call it
[07:43] <Coke> Kotus: I also want to add it to the launcher on the left
[07:43] <Kotus> a
[07:43] <Coke> kortsi:  or are you telling me that everything in the launcher has to be available in PATH?
[07:43] <Kotus> i dont know
[07:43] <dreamsr> hello, i booted a pc with livecd. how do i edit and save files on pcs hard disk? livecd wont let me do it
[07:44] <Kotus> but in the terminal yes
[07:44] <Kotus> like a command
[07:44] <Coke> Kotus: but that's not what I want.
[07:44] <Kotus> yes i know
[07:44] <Coke> If I could decide how the world was run, unity wouldn't exist and everything would be done in terminals, but we live in a world where people want to click big shiny icons.
[07:45] <Kotus> you can drag it i think
[07:45] <elky> Coke, I'm glad I live in a world where you don't choose things for me.
[07:46] <ratan> join #lionit
[07:46] <spajderix> hi
[07:46] <Coke> Kotus: drag it from where?
[07:46] <Coke> Kotus: using what?
[07:46] <Kotus> file manager
[07:46] <Kotus> to unity panel
[07:47] <dreamsr> will somebody help me? its urgent
[07:47] <Kotus> dreamsr, did you mount them
[07:47] <dreamsr> it mounts as read only
[07:47] <Coke> Kotus: unfortunately, it doesnt show hidden dirs
[07:47] <Coke> or files
[07:47] <Kotus> i see
[07:47] <spajderix> I've updated firefox to 11 under 10.04 64bit and it does not load pages or display plugins/proxy settings, can anybody help me with that?
[07:48] <dreamsr> i guess i need help with mounting
[07:48] <Coke> Kotus: and my desktop file is in ~/.local/share/applications
[07:48] <Coke> (where someobody on some ubuntu forum said apps should go)
[07:48] <Kotus> sorry , i can't help you
[07:48] <Coke> So does anybody know how to make a custom .desktop file in the launcher or in a menu or ANYTHING in the UI?
[07:49] <Kotus> dreamsr, can you send me /etc/mtab
[07:49] <Mayazcherquoi> Hey guys. How can I confirm whether the swap partition is working or not? :S
[07:49] <faryshta> This is a more hardware related problem. My computer fan died. What to do?
[07:50] <Abhijit> Mayazcherquoi, system monitor?
[07:50] <lgx> just free -m
[07:50] <tonysanv> what's the downside of shutdown -n (skip init) ?
[07:50] <dreamsr> Kotus, i cant
[07:50] <dreamsr> i just need to know how to mount hd to write to it
[07:51] <dreamsr> and my problem is solved
[07:51] <Mayazcherquoi> Abhijit, Okay. Well, that just says "0 bytes". The reason why I query is because the partition type is listed as "unknown" :-/
[07:51] <Kotus> they should be mounted rw
[07:51] <Kotus> automatically
[07:51] <Kotus> are they ntfs?
[07:51] <dreamsr> they are ext3
[07:51] <Mayazcherquoi> Abhijit, And it isn't mounted
[07:52] <dreamsr> i f*d up with my fstab
[07:52] <dreamsr> so debian wont boot
[07:52] <dreamsr> i need to edit my fstab to fix it
[07:52] <Kotus> send the fstab
[07:52] <dreamsr> and livecd wont let save it
[07:52] <Kotus> it will, it will
[07:52] <lgx> Mayazcherquoi, you can't mount a swap part. just swapon it
[07:53] <Kotus> about that mtab
[07:53] <Coke> Kotus: for next time, here's how to do it http://www.liberiangeek.net/2011/11/create-desktop-shortcuts-icons-in-ubuntu-11-10-oneiric-ocelot/
[07:53] <Coke> Kotus: you can then drag and drop
[07:53] <Kotus> ok!
[07:53] <Coke> I also had to manually remove the ubuntu one item from the messages menu.
[07:53] <Coke> I guess Ubuntu, just like Apple, is going for a non-customizable, software stack "buy our services now!" type of setup with unity.
[07:54] <Kotus> back to debian then~~
[07:54] <anthropos> to be fair, it's quire easy to switch to a different desktop environment
[07:54] <anthropos> i don't use unity
[07:54] <bazhang> !ot | Coke
[07:54] <Coke> anthropos: except I think the concepts of unity is good
[07:54] <tonysanv> unity is kinda suck...
[07:55] <anthropos> I don't personally care for it but I can see the value in what they are trying to achieve
[07:55] <Kotus> i use enlightenment
[07:55] <Coke> anthropos: however, it's a hazzle just to add your own program to the launcher and its a hazzle to remove what canonical is trying to push
[07:55] <anthropos> i just did sudo apt-get install gnome-shell and then logged out and back in
[07:55] <Kotus> maybe touchscreens are better for unity
[07:55] <fidel> anthropos: good point ;)
[07:56] <Coke> anthropos: same problem with Nokia
[07:56] <Kotus> what do you think > #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:56] <fidel> dont whine about preinstalled software - change them if you think they su**
[07:56] <mr-squidley> desktop and window managers are not permanent the beauty off linux is choice
[07:56] <Coke> It's as if everyone is looking at the billions of dollars Apple is making and thinking "AHA! So software stacking is better than usability and choice"
[07:56] <bazhang> lets get back to support; chit chat in the offtopic channel
[07:56] <bazhang> Coke, ?
[07:57] <Coke> im off anyways, have the launcher working with the help of gnome-panel
[07:57] <Coke> Kotus: i'd like to stay and chat, but got a meeting
[07:57] <Kotus> cya
[07:58] <faryshta> How can I repair a broken fan?
[07:58] <anthropos> if it's cooling something you care about, replace it
[07:58] <Abhijit> faryshta, ##hardware
[07:58] <bazhang> ##hardware faryshta
[08:00] <faryshta> Abhijit, bazhang thanks
[08:01] <Kotus> dreamsr, how is it going?
[08:03] <gridbag> i see how you can drag-drop an example.desktop file into the unity bar to install it.  how do you do that from the command-line?
[08:12] <Mayazcherquoi> Just wondering. In a VMWare virtual machine where you want the guest OS to install to a physical partition, it has complete access to the entire disk (and can see all partitions). If I install to an empty one, can that overwrite my bootloader, etc?
[08:14] <bazhang> Mayazcherquoi, you may want to confirm in #vmware , but I would suspect yes
[08:14] <Mayazcherquoi> bazhang, Yeah, I just realised that channel existed. I asked, but no response thus far :(
[08:15] <Jordan_U> Mayazcherquoi: I believe that VMWare only maps blocks from the partition you specify to the virtual machine, and creates fake (will only return zero, or a copy of the partition table) areas for everything else, but that is only a guess.
[08:15] <Mayazcherquoi> Jordan_U, Okay.
[08:16] <Mayazcherquoi> Jordan_U: I saw this: http://www.vmware.com/support/ws55/doc/ws_disk_raw_install_os.html - but not entirely sure what to make of it (my jargon dictionary may not interpret this correctly :-/)
[08:17] <elbrinke> Need help with running a .sh (shell) script as deamon… any assistance
[08:17] <medwards> Hey folks, is anyone else having problems with the latest compat-wireless release with the new kernel package?
[08:17] <elbrinke> the .sh script must run continue sly in the background
[08:18] <medwards> Wireless on my macbook pro 8,2 seems to cut out now. It says connected but no DNS requests work and I can't see signal strength for any other network
[08:19] <dr_willis> elbrinke:  make a different script that moitors ps output every min or so. and reruns the service...  is one way
[08:19] <elbrinke> ok, any other ways
[08:19] <dr_willis> probly a dozen other waysa
[08:19] <dr_willis> depends on the details
[08:20] <elbrinke> i searched google, but lots of non-helping articles
[08:20] <lgx> use upstart?
[08:21] <dr_willis> proper way would be to make an actual upstart .conf for it
[08:21] <elbrinke> upstart?
[08:21] <dr_willis> !upstart
[08:22] <dr_willis> what is this script doing exactly?
[08:23] <elbrinke> the idea of the script is to run vlc in the background without a guy to listen to a multicast stream.
[08:23] <elbrinke> so when the stream is active the vlc instance running in the background shows the stream and then closes..
[08:24] <elbrinke> but the script must be able to either restart vlc after session closed or just continue to run after streaming window closed
[08:24] <elbrinke> hope that helps..
[08:25] <dr_willis> i thought  'vls' handled that task.  part of the vlc tools..
[08:25] <elbrinke> nah… let me show you the script file
[08:25] <elbrinke> #!/bin/sh
[08:25] <elbrinke> vlc rtp://@239.255.10.1 --fullscreen --qt-minimal-view --qt-start-minimized --no
[08:25] <elbrinke> -qt-video-autoresize --no-qt-fs-controller
[08:26] <elbrinke> #!/bin/sh
[08:26] <elbrinke> vlc rtp://@239.255.10.1 --fullscreen --qt-minimal-view --qt-start-minimized --no -qt-video-autoresize --no-qt-fs-controller
[08:26] <elbrinke> what happens is that this script start up vlc without gui and only shows the vlc icon on task bar when running..
[08:27] <elbrinke> ity listens to a multicast stream on multicast ip address as seem above
[08:27] <elbrinke> ok, so any ideas guys
[08:27] <dr_willis> what if theres no x session going....
[08:27] <elbrinke> all i need to do is to get the script to run continuesly
[08:28] <anthropos> you could try to use inetd
[08:28] <dr_willis> make a script that monitors ps output . may be easiest. thats not really a normal way to do a 'service'
[08:30] <dr_willis> make a script that runs ps ax | grep vlc ( or similer) to see if the vlc is running.. if not  start it.. is one way.
[08:31] <dr_willis> bas scripting guide may have neater examples
[08:31] <elbrinke> ooh
[08:31] <dr_willis> you are not really doing a normal 'service'
[08:31] <anthropos> yes, it's pretty kludgey
[08:31] <j0rd> I've upgraded to 11.10 recently and one thing I've noticed is drag and drop in the browser rarely works
[08:31] <anthropos> not that there's anything wrong with that per se
[08:31] <anthropos> it's just not the "right" way to do it
[08:31] <j0rd> it seems like unity is stealing the focus, instead of allowing the browsers to use it
[08:32] <j0rd> anyone noticed this?
[08:33] <Guest54081> hi
[08:34] <foobArrr> can I preserve color when piping stuff through less?
[08:36] <j0rd> foobArrr: http://bit.ly/GVluXk
[08:38] <bazhang> j0rd, never use that here
[08:40] <j0rd> bazhang: first link appears to be the answer
[08:40] <j0rd> not much different than linking to a google page
[08:41] <j0rd> + it's got some additional smarminess added
[08:41] <bazhang> j0rd, just dont use it. it's demeaning and never welcome here.
[08:41] <j0rd> bazhang: i don't think it's demeaning personally. I think it lets the person know they should be using google to try to find stuff. Which is how I found the answer for him. I "Googled it for him"
[08:42] <mun_> hi
[08:42] <nearst> hello
[08:42] <bazhang> j0rd, its not up for discussion. dont use it.
[08:42] <j0rd> alright
[08:43] <mun_> if i want to wake up a machine that is suspended from outside the network, would i need to ssh into a machine within its LAN and run wakeonlan MACADDRESS?
[08:44] <nearst> depends
[08:45] <mun_> nearst, depends on?
[08:45] <bendras> efaef
[08:50] <yoshie> ubuntu 64bit  help  please, installed new 2TB WD hard drive sata , fresh install getting error ( no bootable device -- insert disk and press any key )
[08:51] <bazhang> yoshie, you installed, then it tells you to remove the cd to finish, and you do so, then what happens
[08:51] <dyd> what's a good sw for sticky notes on desktop?
[08:51] <yoshie> bazhang: than it shuts down and i press the power button and get that error
[08:52] <bazhang> yoshie, sounds like a failed install if it has never booted even once
[08:52] <bazhang> dyd, there are several let me check
[08:52] <yoshie> bazhang: i tried a boot-repair both advanced and recommended and still not working
[08:53] <dyd> bazhang, thank you, i'd like a really light and easy one
[08:53] <bazhang> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/08/xpad-simple-sticky-notes-for-your-desktop/
[08:54] <bazhang> dyd, see above
[08:54] <dyd> bazhang, thank you
[08:55] <Mashr000m> hey gays, how to make bash to do completion after you first time hit TAB?
[08:56] <bazhang> bash-completion  Mashr000m got that installed?
[08:57] <flamen> koko
[08:57] <bazhang> flamen, english here
[08:57] <flamen> yes
[08:57] <nearst> eww
[08:57] <Mashr000m> bazhang, yes it's already the newest version as it says apt-get
[08:57] <bazhang> flamen, whats your ubuntu support question
[08:58] <bazhang> Mashr000m, sure you are using the correct case and package name?
[09:00] <meerkats> i cannot change icon size with compiz, nor can I reduce the size of files and folders in any of my directories (home and so on)
[09:00] <meerkats> 11.10 3.0.17
[09:00] <azimut> hi. i cannot update my system because /boot is full. seems there are a lot of old kernel files. what is the recommended way to clean this up?
[09:00] <meerkats> unity
[09:01] <bazhang> meerkats, icon size of what
[09:01] <bazhang> azimut, package manager to remove some, best to keep at least one spare though
[09:01] <popey> azimut: dpkg -l 'linux-image*', and then 'apt-get remove --purge linux-image....' whichever old ones you don't want/need
[09:01] <meerkats> bazhang, of both the left icon panel in unity (with compiz experimental, theoretically) and the size of reguler files and folders (home folder, via edit-preferences)
[09:02] <bazhang> meerkats, try in #compiz yet?
[09:02] <meerkats> bazhang, launcher I mean (left icon panel=
[09:02] <Mashr000m> bazhang, my version 1:1.3-1ubuntu6 should be the oldest one
[09:02] <meerkats> bazhang, yes, compiz experimetanl wont make any difference
[09:02] <bazhang> meerkats, sounds like a ccsm setting
[09:02] <meerkats> a, sorry
[09:03] <bazhang> Mashr000m, what exactly are you trying to tab complete but failing at
[09:03] <azimut> bazhang: popey: thank you. I'm a bit surprised that the old kernels didn't get auto-removed. is this a kernel specific problem or does it happen to other packages too (i mean that when updating a package, the old versions isn't removed)
[09:04] <bazhang> azimut, how big did you set /boot
[09:04] <bazhang> azimut, afaik setting /boot is a manual partitioning option
[09:05] <Mashr000m> bazhang, first programs then files in directory
[09:05] <azimut> bazhang: not big, 200 mb. should be enough for the booting stuff. did this because the rest of the system is encrypted
[09:05] <anthropos> is there a good reason for most people to have a separate /boot partition anymore?
[09:05] <bazhang> azimut, so how much did you give to your /boot
[09:05] <anthropos> ah, there you go
[09:05] <bazhang> anthropos, perhaps when btrfs was just being rolled out yeah
[09:06] <Mashr000m> bazhang, I mean i just want press TAB one time not 2 times
[09:06] <bazhang> azimut, okay, well I give mine a bit more around 500
[09:07] <bazhang> Mashr000m, not sure how to do that, it might take twice as far as I know
[09:07] <anthropos> you can usually resize with gparted easily, but I don't know about encrypted disks
[09:07] <Mashr000m> lol
[09:07] <anthropos> obviously back up your data before doing so if you don't already
[09:07] <Wingede> anthropos: if your using lvm you would keep your boot partition seperate as grub can't see it otherwise
[09:07] <bazhang> Mashr000m, whats funny
[09:07] <azimut> bazhang: I came from gentoo there I always had 30 mb which was more than enough (only for the up-to-date kernel of course)
[09:07] <anthropos> Wingede, another good reason
[09:07] <Jordan_U> azimut: This problem is specific to kernel packages.
[09:07] <azimut> Jordan_U: thanks
[09:07] <Jordan_U> azimut: You're welcome.
[09:08] <Mashr000m> i mean not fun i just learning IRC
[09:08] <Jordan_U> Wingede: anthropos: Actually, grub2 does support LVM just fine.
[09:08] <bazhang> Mashr000m, we are talking about bash tab complete, right? not irc tab completion
[09:09] <James_WB> where do i find the home directory in natty narwhale ?
[09:09] <Mashr000m> bazhang,  no not IRC
[09:09] <bazhang> James_WB, pardon?
[09:09] <Wingede> Jordan_U: ahh ok, learnt something new :)
[09:10] <azimut> Just fount this on the old kernel files, is quite helpful too: http://askubuntu.com/questions/65096/how-to-clean-previous-kernels-after-update
[09:10] <James_WB> where do i find the home directory ?
[09:10] <anthropos> does the ubuntu installer make a boot partition by default?
[09:10] <Mashr000m> bazhang, like it does zsh by default
[09:10] <bazhang> anthropos, no
[09:10] <anthropos> James_WB, /home/your_user_name_here
[09:11] <bazhang> anthropos, if you mean ubiquity
[09:11] <Wingede> Jordan_U: ahh I see grub 1.95> supports it.. sheesh just become standard practice at work lol
[09:11] <Mashr000m> but i don't want to learn zsh ))
[09:11] <bazhang> the debain-installer can easily though anthropos
[09:11] <Jordan_U> James_WB: In what context? Are you trying to access your home directory from the terminal or from nautilus, (the graphical file browser which comes by default in Ubuntu)?
[09:11] <anthropos> bazhang, yes, I mean ubiquity.
[09:11] <anthropos> I know you can make one without any issues, even via ubiquity, I was just curious if it did by default
[09:11] <OlaRune> hi, how do i remove old kernel versions via ssh?
[09:12] <OlaRune> i only seem to find GUI tutorials
[09:12] <OlaRune> sudo aptitude purge ~ilinux-image-\[0-9\]\(\!`uname -r`\)
[09:12] <OlaRune> will that one work?
[09:12] <James_WB> i want to extract a file to my home directory , dont know how to do that
[09:13] <Mashr000m> bazhang, bash should be  enough for me yet
[09:13] <Jordan_U> James_WB: What type of file? Why do you want it in your home directory?
[09:13] <bazhang> James_WB, extract to there why exactly, what are you trying to do
[09:13] <James_WB> those are the instructions i have the file type is .tar.gz
[09:14] <bazhang> James_WB, instructions for what
[09:15] <James_WB> I just need to know how to extract a file to the home directory and if i need root privileges to do it
[09:15] <thomas__> I believe James_WB is trying to extract a file, and the instructions he is reading is telling him to extract it into his home directory.
[09:15] <bazhang> James_WB, whats the package name
[09:15] <Nunus> tar zxvf your_file.tar.gz
[09:15] <Mashr000m> bazhang, but i gess it's doesn't worth so much effort
[09:16] <James_WB> any help guys ?
[09:16] <bazhang> Mashr000m, to learn bash? try #bash
[09:16] <bazhang> !abs | Mashr000m and this
[09:16] <daggs123> hello, I have a major issue with ubuntu 10.04, I
[09:16] <Nunus> James_WB: tar zxvf your_file.tar.gz
[09:16] <daggs123> my setup is nis based but I cannot connect after nis upgrade
[09:16] <bazhang> James_WB, you got the commands; whats the package name
[09:17] <Mashr000m> oh thanks for advise
[09:17] <daggs123> I get ypbind restart failed when I try to configure it
[09:17] <Jordan_U> James_WB: Whatever you're trying to install, it's likely that there is a much easier (and safer) way to go about installing it. Compiling from source, or even extracting pre-compiled binaries from a tar.gz file, is not recommended.
[09:17] <daggs123> any ideas how to solve it?
[09:17] <James_WB> cant i  do it through the gui , i dont how the command works
[09:18] <bazhang> James_WB, any reason we cannot know the package name?
[09:18] <James_WB> uh its an rp-pppoe client
[09:18] <fidel> bazhang: thanks for the abs-hint - dindt knew that one
[09:18] <Jordan_U> James_WB: If you want to use only the GUI, then you have even more reason than most to stay away from tar.gz files.
[09:18] <bazhang> welcome
[09:19] <James_WB> i just need to do it , Jordan_U , im not sure on how to do it , thats why im asking. also i dont understand the tar zxvf your_file.tar.gz command
[09:20] <bazhang> James_WB, got the link?
[09:20] <mr-squidley> tar zxvf equal unzip look up the flags using man tar and you willl learn what you need to know
[09:21] <James_WB> 2.Download rp-pppoe client from :http://www.roaringpenguin.com/files/download/rp-pppoe-3.10.tar.gz Extract it to your home directory Open a teminal Enter command : cd rp-pppoe-3.10 Enter command : sudo ./go-gui (after this command pppoe client is compiled and started.close the window that appears after compilation)
[09:21] <Jordan_U> James_WB: pppoe is rarely actually needed, and there are pppoe packages for Ubuntu which are actually supported here and easy to install.
[09:21] <bazhang> James_WB, use the  software center to install that
[09:22] <James_WB> should i install or extract ? im confused
[09:22] <bazhang> install from ubuntu software repositiories James_WB
[09:23] <mr-squidley> Jordan_U has a good point James_wb the whole point of ubuntu is to make things easier no shame in using GUI
[09:23] <James_WB> i started ubuntu today so i dont much of the technical terms
[09:23] <bazhang> !find rp-pppoe
[09:24] <Jordan_U> James_WB: You're making your life harder than it needs to be in many ways. First, why do you think you need to configure pppoe?
[09:25] <James_WB> its the only way to add my modem , i asked here before and the only way is to follow that set of instructions .
[09:25] <James_WB> i just need to know if i copied the file correctly to the home directory , i get an error when i try to run
[09:26] <Mashr000m> bazhang, thanks again it really good book i was looking for something like this.
[09:26] <bazhang> welcome
[09:27] <James_WB> thanks all
[09:28] <nagarjuna> hi guys gud aftn, i have configured evolution in ubuntu 10.04. I am able to retrieve mails but unable to send the  mails. can some one tell me how to do that
[09:29] <nearst> ubottu mta
[09:29] <Jordan_U> James_WB: I'm almost certain that those instructions are *not* the best way to go about this. If someone here told you they were, they were probably simply wrong.
[09:31] <Unknown0BC> Hi, my intel i3 is 64 bit. Should i download the amd 64 bit ubuntu or the 32 bit ?
[09:31] <mr-squidley> amd 64bit
[09:31] <bazhang> Unknown0BC, the amd64
[09:36] <songxk> aha  first time to useLinux OS
[09:37] <songxk> Very funny
[09:37] <Parufito> Hi, i've installed  ubuntu 12.04 (beta1)  to try Gnome Classic and the trick (alt + Right click) but i can't add any widget to my panels. I've to do something before?
[09:37] <m3xia> hey there is any substitute to adobe shckweave for ubuntu?
[09:38] <Jordan_U> !shockwave | m3xia
[09:38] <ackbahr> Hi!
[09:38] <ibiwor> Is cat /proc/meminfo | grep MemTotal wrong sometimes?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/903628/
[09:38] <ritz> hi, does lightdm support displaying hostname/ip on the login screen ?
[09:39] <ritz> nope
[09:39] <ritz> filling a bz
[09:40] <ackbahr> I know this will look like a stupid question, but I'm looking for a windows manager that would look like Windows Vista for my wife's session. I found  lot of themes and tweaks but they are all for Gnome 2. So a way to install gnome2 on ubuntu 12.04 would already be a big help. Thanks!
[09:40] <ritz> me-- it does
[09:41] <ritz> ackbahr, probably kde ?
[09:41] <ritz> it is the only I know, which is massively customizable
[09:41] <anthropos> ackbahr, gnome 2 can exist happily on ubuntu 12.04 and it can coexist with unity or whatever.
[09:41] <ackbahr> ritz: Ah you're right, if I tweak of find a theme for KDE....
[09:42] <ackbahr> anthropos: I supposed so, but I didn't find how to install it.
[09:42] <anthropos> I think if you just install it from the repositories you can pick when you log in, and that will be that.
[09:42] <Jordan_U> ackbahr: I know this isn't answering you directly, but if you're trying to do this to make your wife have an easier time or trick her I think both are bad ideas and will fail. If it's to make her life easier, you're never going to make GNU/Linux behave enough like Windows for there to be no learning curve, in trying though you will make the interface *more* complicated and less consistent. If you're trying to trick her into not noticing that you've ...
[09:42] <anthropos> i don't know what the package names are
[09:42] <Jordan_U> ... changed anything, that is dishonest and will probably also fail.
[09:42] <anthropos> perhaps someone else does
[09:43] <bazhang> !notunity | anthropos
[09:43] <anthropos> there you go, gnome-panel
[09:43] <ackbahr> Jordan_U: There's no learning curve here, believe me. And I don't trick my wife.
[09:44] <Jordan_U> ackbahr: What is your goal in making Ubuntu look like Vista?
[09:44] <ackbahr> anthropos: Already installed it, it's a gnome2 aspect for gnome3 (so theme installers don't accept it).
[09:44] <bazhang> ackbahr, gnome-panel, try it
[09:44] <ackbahr> Jordan_U: To stop the complaints.
[09:45] <anthropos> is gnome-panel really not gnome 2? hard to believe
[09:45] <ackbahr> bazhang: Already installed it, it's a gnome2 aspect for gnome3 (so theme installers don't accept it).
[09:45] <mr-squidley> Unity is themeless inst it (maybe im wrong dont use it)
[09:45] <gringoire|afk> Trying to complile jumanjii, get lots of errors about packages not found in the pkg-config seach path despite having them installed, any ideas on how to fix them?
[09:45] <hateball> ackbahr: You'd probably have an easier time finding a "vista" theme for KDE, if you're not opposed to her using that
[09:45] <ackbahr> hateball: Yeah, found one.
[09:46] <Jordan_U> ackbahr: Are the complaints that she doesn't like how Ubuntu looks, or doesn't like that it looks different than Vista, or something else?
[09:46] <anthropos> bbiab
[09:47] <fsgxdroid> hello, i installed kvm and windows 7 (64) as guest and i can't get 3d acceleration work with vmware drivers, im using ubuntu 12.04
[09:47] <ackbahr> Jordan_U: She wants the buttons to be where she's used to them.... And I work in a school where people are resisting OpenOffice for the same kind of reasons, so rather than teach my colleagues (or here my wife) I just comply....
[09:47] <MonkeyDust> ackbahr  gnome classic looks like gnome2, but it *is* gnome3 -- e.g. you cannot change the taskbar
[09:47] <ikonia> fsgxdroid: why are you using vmware drivers if you are using kvm
[09:48] <ackbahr> What's the main package for KDE?
[09:48] <ikonia> fsgxdroid: what are "vmware" drivers ?
[09:48] <ikonia> ackbahr: kde-desktop or kubuntu-desktop
[09:48] <ackbahr> ikonia: Thanks
[09:48] <ikonia> ackbahr: kde = the application kubuntu = the build for ubuntu
[09:48] <adnan> mas, pelajaran apa?
[09:48] <fsgxdroid> ikonia: kvm supports vmware graphics adapter, and i readed that those drivers will get best performance
[09:49] <ikonia> fsgxdroid: vmware graphics adapater ?
[09:49] <Jordan_U> ackbahr: Like I said, if you're trying to make things "easier", trying to make Ubuntu like Windows will probably fail. I've heard a lot of people try to do it, and haven't heard any success stories. Ubuntu is simply not Windows.
[09:49] <bazhang> adnan, english here please
[09:49] <ibiwor> Is cat /proc/meminfo | grep MemTotal wrong sometimes?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/903628/
[09:49] <ikonia> fsgxdroid: kvm presents specific virtual graphics cards as hardware
[09:49] <Unknown0BC> I am downloading the amd64 bit cd for i3 64 bit. I want to download the repositories to put on dvd's. Where do i get them. I only see the install cd on the site.
[09:49] <adnan> oh, i'm sorry..
[09:49] <fsgxdroid> ikonia: yes, http://www.linux-kvm.com/content/using-vmware-vga-kvm-windows-guests
[09:50] <ackbahr> Jordan_U: Yeah, but it's for my computer where I wanted to make a welcoming account for her. I could also tell her to use her own Vista laptop and get scr***d, but that's usually my job anyway.... :)
[09:50] <bazhang> Unknown0BC, the repos wont fit on dvds
[09:50] <fsgxdroid> ikonia: and this, http://www.blah-blah.ch/it/general/kvm-and-windows-vms/
[09:50] <bazhang> Unknown0BC, if you are planning on mirroring the repos
[09:51] <fsgxdroid> ikonia: maybe im missing something about that, but i can understand that acceleration works best with vmware virtual adapter?
[09:52] <ackbahr> Jordan_U: But I'm quite certain she'd rather learn how to use free software!
[09:52] <funnyhaha> i need help i removed the wifi thing on my top menu bar and now i cant find it
[09:53] <James_WB> I need helping with getting a adsl usb modem [H9601] to work with Ubuntu 11.04 . How do I set up a connection using it ?
[09:53] <bazhang> funnyhaha, which version of ubuntu
[09:53] <bazhang> James_WB, network manager pppoe
[09:53] <funnyhaha> i think the new one
[09:53] <funnyhaha> i just got it so im dumb
[09:53] <Unknown0BC> Or i would just like to put it all on my drive. Where can i dowmload the repositories ?
[09:53] <MonkeyDust> funnyhaha  open a terminal and type lsb_release -sd
[09:54] <bazhang> funnyhaha, the indicator-applet?
[09:54] <James_WB> bazhang the modem doesnt have any drivers for ubuntu and is not showing up on network connections
[09:54] <ackbahr> See you all folks!
[09:54] <funnyhaha> 10.04.4lts
[09:54] <MonkeyDust> funnyhaha  that's gnome2
[09:55] <bazhang> James_WB, this is a usb modem then? what happens when you start up with it plugged in, and check in network manager
[09:55] <mr-squidley> James_WB: what is your modem and model number
[09:55] <johnm> bazhang: James_WB: http://linuxmodems.blogspot.co.uk/2010/05/prolink-h9601-modem-in-linux.html
[09:55] <funnyhaha> ok i think its the indicator - applet
[09:55] <MonkeyDust> funnyhaha  right click on the top taskbar and choose add applet, there, find indicator
[09:56] <funnyhaha> dont have that
[09:56] <funnyhaha> the add applet is what i dont have
[09:56] <bazhang> funnyhaha, what about alt f2 indicator-applet
[09:57] <James_WB> modem : http://www.prolink2u.com/new/support/download.php?q=h9601&submit=Okay  ,
[09:57] <bazhang> James_WB, did you not see the link johnm just gave you?
[09:58] <James_WB> bazhang i was using the instructions there until i found out the poster said his method will not work 10.04 and later
[09:58] <funnyhaha> it said there is no indicator-applet
[09:58] <bazhang> funnyhaha, this is mint?
[09:59] <funnyhaha> mint?????
[09:59] <funnyhaha> dont understand
[09:59] <bazhang> funnyhaha, right click top panel will show some choices to add
[10:00] <funnyhaha> yes it dose that they are very limited nothing to do with wireless
[10:00] <funnyhaha> there like 15 apps in the add to panel
[10:02] <bazhang> funnyhaha, and the choice you want simply should have the name indicator-applet
[10:02] <funnyhaha> i not there
[10:02] <funnyhaha> its not there
[10:02] <James_WB> does this mean my modem doesnt work with ubuntu ?
[10:02] <bazhang> sure it is
[10:02] <mun_> hi
[10:03] <funnyhaha> o it is there hold on
[10:03] <bazhang> funnyhaha, bright blue i
[10:03] <mun_> my hdd seems to be "stuck" while repairing grub. according to my syslog, i get errors like "ata3: hard resetting link" "ata3.00: failed command: READ FPDMA QUEUED" etc.
[10:03] <mun_> does anyone know how to fix it?
[10:03] <mun_> i'm on 11.10
[10:03] <ikonia> mun_: repairing grub ?
[10:03] <ikonia> mun_: what exactly are you doing
[10:04] <mun_> ikonia, yeah. i've booted using a live usb. i'm trying to purge and install grub again.
[10:04] <mun_> ikonia, grub broke because when i had the exact error last week, i hard booted the machine.
[10:04] <mun_> well, not sure if the hard booting caused it or somehow grub broke
[10:04] <funnyhaha> ok that gave me my sound back but not my wireless thing
[10:04] <mun_> but i realised it broke after hard booting.
[10:04] <mr-squidley> James_Wb: it does but with a lot off work, try an ethernet based modem
[10:05] <funnyhaha> i found what i needed thanks
[10:05] <bazhang> welcome
[10:06] <mun_> ikonia, as a result, i kept getting errors like "hd0 out of disk" etc.
[10:07] <James_WB> ok thanks mr-squidley
[10:08] <uBUXUBu> any reason why my brasero wont open??
[10:08] <uBUXUBu> i just burned a disk a lil while ago...now i wanna burn another one....brasero will not launch?
[10:08] <Parufito> kaneda
[10:09] <uBUXUBu> only thing i can think is to uninstall it and install it again?
[10:09] <auska> Hi! I'm developing with php and I get this error: 'Call to undefined function pcntl_signal() ' how can I enable the pcntl functions on ubuntu?
[10:09] <uBUXUBu> any ideas/ is this a bug?
[10:09] <mr-squidley> uBUXUBu : good idea try that first always a good start
[10:11] <uBUXUBu> really cant do much else
[10:11] <uBUXUBu> why the heck would it do that
[10:11] <uBUXUBu> guess ill reboot
[10:11] <mr-squidley> uBUXUBu : maybe you accidently removed a dependency happens
[10:12] <uBUXUBu> how can i do that
[10:12] <uBUXUBu> i burn a disk      a lil while later i og to do it again
[10:12] <dorin> goodmorning people!, had anybody problem with fullscreen in flash?
[10:12] <uBUXUBu> how does a dependency go away from that
[10:12] <mr-squidley> uBUXUBu : installing and uninstalling
[10:13] <uBUXUBu> but i idnt install or uninstall anything
[10:13] <uBUXUBu> i burned a disk
[10:13] <uBUXUBu> later tried again
[10:13] <uBUXUBu> makes no sence
[10:13] <mr-squidley> uBUXUBu : dunno mate world is full off unanswerable questions sometimes.
[10:14] <dorin> the only solution i found is htat http://ubuntu-answers.blogspot.com/2011/04/sluggish-flash-player-in-fullscreen.html
[10:14] <dorin> but it doesnt work for me
[10:16] <funnyhaha> hey im using the windows wireless driver i think its called ndwarpper but i would like to know if i could not use that and just install a driver for my wireless card
[10:16] <bazhang> funnyhaha, whats the chipset
[10:18] <funnyhaha> how do i find that out i would have to go over to windows to find out
[10:18] <mr-squidley> funnyhaha: check this mate will help you find out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_open_source_wireless_drivers
[10:23] <funnyhaha> rtl8191su
[10:25] <funnyhaha> is there a driver i can use without the windows wireless driver for the rtl8191su
[10:25] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?s=c2aaeedb871c4161caa3c245b090ed71&p=11434051&postcount=3   funnyhaha
[10:26] <bazhang> funnyhaha, you on 10.04?
[10:26] <funnyhaha> yes
[10:26] <bazhang> funnyhaha, check the link above, it works out of the box from 10.10 onwards
[10:27] <darkcry> welcome lol...
[10:28] <funnyhaha> o so do i need do get 10.10 and if so what do i do to do that?
[10:28] <JJC> Well hey.
[10:28] <funnyhaha> do i have to reinstall the hole thing
[10:29] <bazhang> funnyhaha, you wish to upgrade then it will work out of the box, you wish to stay in 10.04 you will need the full driver install as shown in that thread
[10:29] <JJC> When someone's got a free minute, I would love to ask a question or two.
[10:29] <funnyhaha> what do you think is best i dont want to wipe my hard drive
[10:30] <bazhang> JJC, ask the channel if someone knows they will answer
[10:30] <MonkeyDust> funnyhaha  easiest is to upgrade - fresh install with separate /home partition
[10:30] <JJC> Ok, I'll fire away.
[10:31] <mr-squidley> funnyhaha: download the driver from the site and extract the .zip file and read README.TXT instructions are inside
[10:32] <JJC> I'm completely new to Linux, but I'm pretty savvy with computers in general so I should catch on fairly quickly. I'm working on installing Mythbuntu 10.04 at the moment, but whenever I try to install a program, any program, via the sudo apt-get install <programname> command, I get the following error:
[10:32] <JJC> E: Malformed line 54 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse) E: The list of sources could not be read.
[10:33] <JJC> I have searched around and found that a fix to this is to edit my sources.list file with gedit.
[10:33] <funnyhaha> i think i will try the driver first but i think i will have to remove the ndwarpper befor install is that right?
[10:33] <mr-squidley> JJC: bang on the money mate
[10:33] <JJC> Thing is, Mythbuntu doesn't come installed with gedit, and I can't install anything myself because of the error!
[10:33] <JJC> That is my problem.
[10:34] <shoogz> can you use nano or wahtever it is to edit it/
[10:35] <mr-squidley> JJC: you'll find vim is your default editor
[10:35] <JJC> Ah huh. I just tried openning it in nano, and we have movemoent.
[10:35] <JJC> I will have a look, and I will also try vim.
[10:36] <JJC> Thank you, I will return with results in a few mins.
[10:36] <mr-squidley> JJC: use nano easier
[10:36] <JJC> Nano it is.
[10:36] <mr-squidley> JJC: vim is oldskool
[10:37] <funnyhaha> hey i just removed the ndiswarpper all 3 and i still have wireless internet ???? why is this
[10:38] <MonkeyDust> funnyhaha  maybe you need to restart
[10:38] <mr-squidley> sudo reboot funnyhaha
[10:39] <himsin> hi, I want to extract info from a xml file.  for example <abcd alge tag="123", xyz , tag2="245"/>, Then I want the tag and tag2 variables containing corresponding values
[10:39] <himsin> using bash tools
[10:39] <fearmenot> hey gents!
[10:40] <himsin> like grep, sed, awk etc
[10:40] <mun_> i keep getting an error "failed command: READ FPDMA QUEUED" in the syslog even on the live usb. does anyone know how to fix it?
[10:40] <fearmenot> quick annoying question ..
[10:40] <fearmenot> ok not really
[10:40] <fearmenot> mount zfs raidz created in freenas ...
[10:40] <fearmenot> anyone has done it?
[10:40] <MonkeyDust> himsin  like you say: use grep, sed and awk, but better ask in the channel #bash
[10:41] <himsin> oksy
[10:41] <mr-squidley> freenas is a bsd varient so it should support ZFS ... a little off topic for the ubuntu channel but
[10:41] <MonkeyDust> a "quick question" is usually unbelievably difficult to answer
[10:42] <mr-squidley> MonkeyDust: like that one haha
[10:42] <fearmenot> well ... if anyone can solve this .. pizza on me lol
[10:42] <auronandace> !zfs | fearmenot
[10:43] <shvelo> Ahoy! Ubuntuers
[10:43] <fearmenot> yes but the question is can this be safely performed on a 100% functioning zfs pool ..
[10:43] <shvelo> Any way to dual-boot Windows 8 and Ubuntu?
[10:44] <mr-squidley> fearmenot: havent used ZFS since solaris apprentley its pretty well supported amongst BSD varients have you tried a bsd channel
[10:44] <fearmenot> Helo shvelo
[10:44] <fearmenot> mr-squidley .. your missing the point
[10:44] <fearmenot> its working fine in bsd ..
[10:44] <chander> hi how r u ?
[10:44] <fearmenot> my problem is i need to mount that sucker in ubuntu or any other distro to write to a hfs volume
[10:45] <mr-squidley> fearmenot: haha sorry mate i really did miss you point...
[10:45] <fearmenot> mr-squidley: It's all good ..
[10:46] <mun_> if Disk utility finds 1 "Reallocated Sector" should i do anything about it?
[10:47] <JJC> Ok I'm back.
[10:47] <fearmenot> mr-squidley: basically I have a FreeNAS box with some data on it .. and I need to shove that data onto a RAID5 array running of an ATTO R380 card with a HFS volume .. not an issue to do it over LAN but I need to do this in 2 days and the FreeNAS box only has a singe Gb NIC ..
[10:47] <JJC> Just before I delete something crucial, should I just delete line 54 (the one with the error) of my sources.list?
[10:47] <fearmenot> mr-squidley: ie. a painful 40Hour tour to get 16TB of data across
[10:47] <auronandace> JJC: what does the line say?
[10:48] <MonkeyDust> fearmenot  your 'quick question' is a bit beyond this channel, i guess
[10:48] <mr-squidley> try this page https://launchpad.net/~zfs-native/+archive/stable/.... its how to add zfs support too ubuntu
[10:48] <JJC> deb http://archive.canonical.com/lucid partner.
[10:48] <ibiwor> Hello! What's the difference between ubuntu-11.10-desktop-amd64.iso and ubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386.iso?
[10:49] <mr-squidley> ibiwor 64bit archetechture or 32bit
[10:49] <fearmenot> MonkeyDust: I was hoping someone might be crazy enough to try and mount freenas created zfs pools and write to hfs lol
[10:49] <auronandace> JJC: are you using anything from the partner repo?
[10:49] <MonkeyDust> ibiwor  64 runs on 64 bit hardware only, but 32 runs on both 32 and 64 bit hardware
[10:49] <JJC> Sorry, I don't even know what that means... Very new to Linux.
[10:50] <auronandace> JJC: you must have added the partner repo to use software in there (like sunjava)
[10:50] <darkcry> how about backtrack
[10:50] <auronandace> JJC: you are using 10.04?
[10:50] <JJC> But if it helps I'm running Mythbuntu...
[10:50] <JJC> Yep.
[10:51] <mr-squidley> fearmenot: haha im afraid this is a channel where the CLI is difficult sometimes bahaha but good luck
[10:51] <ibiwor> mr-squidley: MonkeyDust : Ok, 64bit backward compatible with 32 bit. So, only instruction set is to be checked before installing or the processor other specs/make matters?
[10:51] <JJC> Oh, I tried to install Java, yes, but I got the error message.
[10:51] <shvelo> braainnssss
[10:51] <mun_> does anyone know if western digital's warranty covers "reallocated sectors"?
[10:52] <JJC> auronandace: I get this error whenever I try to install anything: E: Malformed line 54 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse) E: The list of sources could not be read.
[10:52] <auronandace> JJC: yeah, you said, and you also showed us that line 54 is the partner repo
[10:52] <MonkeyDust> ibiwor  please rephrase that question, it's hard to read
[10:53] <JJC> Ok, wasn't sure you were on before.
[10:53] <JJC> So what should I do...?
[10:53] <ibiwor> MonkeyDust : Only instruction set is to be checked before installing?
[10:53] <auronandace> JJC: you need to make sure you aren't using anything from that repo (if you are then uninstall them)
[10:54] <user1> hi,how to setup MediaWiki in ubuntu 10.04 as realtime scenario (not for localhost), pls help me
[10:54] <MonkeyDust> ibiwor  what instruction set exactly?
[10:54] <auronandace> JJC: then you can remove that line
[10:54] <JJC> I haven't installed anything. At all. I've tried to install a heap of things, but nothing has worked.
[10:54] <ibiwor> MonkeyDust: By instruction I mean, whether the processor supports 32-bit or 6bit
[10:54] <auronandace> JJC: i've never used mythbuntu so i don't know what you have installed though
[10:55] <MonkeyDust> ibiwor  still not geting it, where or when do you have to specify that?
[10:55] <JJC> Ok will it help at all if I tell you what I've attempted to install?
[10:56] <auronandace> JJC: so this is a fresh install of mythbuntu?
[10:56] <mr-squidley> ibiwor: what processor do you have and how much ram in gb?
[10:56] <JJC> Completely.
[10:56] <JJC> As of about 2 hours ago.
[10:56] <JJC> All I have tried to do is install Java, and install gEdit.
[10:57] <auronandace> JJC: ah, so i assume that partner repo is there by default on mythbuntu
[10:57] <ibiwor> MonkeyDust: No, sorry. I'm actually wondering what all things I need to check before actually installing Ubuntu. My processor says lists instruction set as 64bit. So usually while selecting the options in Ubuntu download page I just need to confirm system's intruction set and nothing else?
[10:58] <auronandace> JJC: can you pastebin the whole sources.list please?
[10:58] <fearmenot> wish me luck gents !! ..
[10:58] <JJC> Ok. Just FYI, that last line, (deb http://archive.canonical.com/lucid partner is there twice.
[10:58] <mr-squidley> fearmenot: good luck your gunna need it
[10:58] <MonkeyDust> ibiwor  ah, so you want to know what version you have to download? that depends on your hardware
[10:58] <JJC> Ok give me one moment.
[10:59] <fearmenot> mr-squidley: .. errr great .. not something will go wrong for sure .... and if it does ... YOU JINXED IT!! lol
[10:59] <fearmenot> now*
[10:59] <mr-squidley> fearmenot: touch wood is the term i believe
[11:00] <fearmenot> ... dw, i;ve kelled few rabbits and sacraficed a few goats just to be safe as well
[11:00] <mr-squidley> good man
[11:00]  * fearmenot takes a deep breath ..
[11:02] <JJC> auronandace: http://pastebin.com/ph94tADr
[11:05] <auronandace> JJC: hmm, you can try commenting the last 2 lines then sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:05] <auronandace> JJC: to comment a line just put a # infront of it
[11:06] <JJC> Ok... Sorry for a terrible question, but how do I edit within nano?
[11:06] <auronandace> JJC: arrow keys to move then just type what you need where you need it
[11:07] <mr-squidley> just add it in and hit ctrl x at the end. agree twice and your done
[11:07] <auronandace> JJC: ctrl x will ask if you want to save
[11:07] <auronandace> JJC: also make sure you are editing the file with sudo nano
[11:08] <JJC> So sudo nano etc/apt/sources.list?
[11:08] <auronandace> JJC: you missed the / before etc, but yes
[11:10] <JJC> Ok running get update now. Internet is slow so may take a min.
[11:11] <JJC> Ah. Done, now get upgrade...
[11:11] <JJC> Ok done...
[11:11] <JJC> Should I try installing something now?
[11:12] <mr-squidley> yep try gedit
[11:12] <auronandace> JJC: yes
[11:12] <JJC> Will do...
[11:12] <mr-squidley> then you never have to use nano again :D
[11:13] <lupilupi> HELLO I HAVE A QUESTION
[11:13] <MonkeyDust> mr-squidley  with nano, you never have to use gedit again ;)
[11:13] <lupilupi> HOW DO I GET BIG FONT OFF
[11:13] <auronandace> !caps | lupilupi
[11:13] <lupilupi> HOW DO I GET IT OFF
[11:13] <mr-squidley> MonkeyDust: agreed but im all for GUI less questions
[11:13] <JJC> YES! Thank you so, so much.
[11:13] <MonkeyDust> lupilupi  press the shift lock key
[11:13] <auronandace> lupilupi: is caps lock on?
[11:14] <lupilupi> WHAT IS SHIFT KEY I AM GERMAN
[11:14] <MonkeyDust> lupilupi  type /j #ubuntu-de
[11:14] <shvelo> lupilupi  the key above shift
[11:15] <lupilupi> OKAY WELL I HAVE A QUETSION
[11:15] <dob_> lupilupi: Großschreibtaste
[11:15] <lupilupi> I INSTALLED UBUNTU BUT IT ONLY SHOWS BLACK SCREEN WHEN STARTING
[11:15] <lupilupi> IT UP
[11:15] <JJC> auronandace: Thank you so, so much for your help. You have saved me so much time. I really appreciate it.
[11:15] <MonkeyDust> lupilupi  first turn off caps, then ask a question
[11:15] <auronandace> JJC: no worries
[11:15] <lupilupi> YES IF I KNEW HOW TO DO SO
[11:15] <auronandace> JJC: not sure if mythbuntu needs the partner repos though
[11:15] <JJC> MonkeyDust: Thank you as well, huge help.
[11:16] <MonkeyDust> lupilupi  type /join #ubuntu-de and ask there
[11:16] <jose___> hello
[11:16] <JJC> auronandace: What do you suggest I do with it? Leave them commented or should I uncomment the lines...?
[11:16] <nunzio> ciao a tutti
[11:16] <nunzio> !list
[11:16] <shvelo> How to boot Windows 8 from GRUB?
[11:16] <shvelo> მიპასუხეთ ჩემიდედასვფიცავარ
[11:16] <nunzio> !list
[11:17] <MonkeyDust> shvelo  use the arrow keys to choose win8 and then press enter
[11:17] <auronandace> JJC: find out if the updates from partner are needed for any software that is installed in mythbuntu
[11:17] <jose___> i have one question, how can i change the icons in top panel ( where the battery, time wireless is)??
[11:17] <shvelo> MonkeyDust: it starts loading and restarts
[11:17] <auronandace> JJC: if nothing needs it then its safe to just leave it commented
[11:17] <jose___> its ubuntu 11.10
[11:17] <sacarlson> shvelo: hold shift key at boot time and arrow key to the windows 8 menu selection and enter
[11:17] <JJC> How do I do that...? Again, sorry for the amateur questions.
[11:17] <nunzio> !list
[11:18] <auronandace> JJC: if something does need it and it stays commented it just means you won't get updates for that particular software
[11:18] <JJC> So how would I find out if something needs it or not?
[11:18] <auronandace> JJC: i'm not sure what comes as default on mythbuntu
[11:19] <shvelo> I have Windows 8 CP and it maybe has Safe Boot or some crap, and i can't enter it's startup menu for disabling it
[11:19] <JJC> Not much...
[11:19] <auronandace> JJC: i'm guessing mythtv is part of the partner repo, which is likely the whole point you installed mythbuntu
[11:19] <JJC> It is the only reason I chose Mythbuntu, yes.
[11:19] <MonkeyDust> shvelo windows support in ##windows (double #)
[11:20] <JJC> So you think it would be MythTV? So I should probably uncomment it?
[11:20] <auronandace> JJC: i'd guess so yes, but you will most probably get that error again
[11:21] <JJC> Could the error be anything to do with there being the same line repeated twice at the end of my sources.list?
[11:21] <auronandace> JJC: no the others are repeated twice
[11:21] <JJC> No, I'm talking garbage here aren't I.
[11:21] <JJC> Yeah.
[11:21] <JJC> Ok, well, I'll give it a go I suppose.
[11:22] <auronandace> JJC: you could check to see if there is a bug report
[11:22] <mr-squidley> JJC: try adding a -src after deb on the bottom line
[11:22] <JJC> Oh! This is no where near as urgent, but I have had one other error since installing Mthbuntu.
[11:23] <JJC> ...And now my error message is gone. Weird.
[11:23] <auronandace> JJC: ah, you must have just forgot to apt-get update before installing anything
[11:23] <JJC> It was an error with the update manager. But changing that line seems to have fixed it too.
[11:24] <JJC> So that would have been the whole issue?
[11:24] <rabbi1> my libreoffice doesn;'t check any spelling, kindly help unable to set the under languages also :(
[11:24] <JJC> I wish the setup guide had've mentioned that I needed to do that.
[11:24] <auronandace> JJC: yes, you should apt-get update before installing or apt-get upgrading
[11:24] <JJC> Perhaps I will write my own guide to help strugglers like myself.
[11:25] <JJC> So everything should be fine now? Even if I uncomment?
[11:25] <auronandace> JJC: try it and see
[11:25] <JJC> Well, now I know that for future reference. Yeah I'll try now.
[11:25] <JJC> I'll try to install Java...
[11:26] <elbrinke> anyone knows how to run a bash script as deamon/service
[11:26] <elbrinke> in ubuntu
[11:26] <fishcooker> hello fellas
[11:26] <lupilupi> AHHHHHHHHHHHHH
[11:26] <lupilupi> caps off now
[11:27] <sacarlson> elbrinke: bashscript &
[11:27] <elbrinke> yes but does it keep the script running
[11:27] <lupilupi> i have questionnnnnnnnnn
[11:27] <lupilupi> please help me please please please
[11:27] <fishcooker> i've back up root partition on the new hardisk.. as i expected the disk wont boot up.. how to enable it..
[11:27] <lupilupi> no help i get no help why not
[11:27] <fishcooker> starting with grub install?
[11:27] <sacarlson> elbrinke: that depends on if you script is writen to keep running,  in an infinite loop
[11:28] <lupilupi> me needs help
[11:28] <adha> lupilupi : i can help you
[11:28] <lupilupi> gooooood
[11:28] <mr-squidley> lupilupi: just ask
[11:28] <lupilupi> adha: so please help me
[11:28] <lupilupi> what aask
[11:28] <mr-squidley> type your question
[11:28] <rAg3-nix> fishcooker: do u have the intact root partition ? with all the system directories ?
[11:28] <adha> lupilupi : help about what ?
[11:29] <lupilupi> help about ubuntu!!!
[11:29] <lupilupi> i installed 8.04 by now and he told me a message windows: pleas eupgrade to ubuntu 11.10
[11:29] <songxk> Anyone?
[11:30] <rAg3-nix> fishcooker: i cant help you if you dont reply !!
[11:30] <fishcooker> thanks rag3-nix
[11:30] <songxk> just update
[11:30] <fishcooker> yes i have
[11:30] <fishcooker> it
[11:30] <lupilupi> update???????????????
[11:30] <fishcooker> actually i've cloned it
[11:30] <lupilupi> isnt it 8.04 the newest?
[11:30] <lupilupi> ^^
[11:31] <rAg3-nix> fishcooker: ohk !! what version of ubuntu are u using ?
[11:31] <mr-squidley> 11.04 is the newest
[11:31] <fishcooker> 10.4
[11:31] <songxk> 12.04
[11:31] <auronandace> lupilupi: 8.04 was released april 2008
[11:31] <lupilupi> lol
[11:31] <songxk> just alphi verison
[11:31] <lupilupi> i thought 8.04 is itttttttt
[11:31] <songxk> 11.10
[11:31] <fishcooker> grub legacy
[11:31] <lupilupi> where to upgrade???
[11:32] <JJC> Hmm.
[11:32] <songxk> sudo update
[11:32] <rAg3-nix> fishcooker: i assume u have a clean ext3/4 partition and have copied all the files and folders u have backed up to that partition !!
[11:32] <lupilupi> yes i know but
[11:32] <lupilupi> if i upgrade to 11.10
[11:32] <JJC> Get a slightly different error, but this is it:
[11:32] <lupilupi> do i have unity???
[11:32] <songxk> Yes
[11:32] <songxk> u will
[11:32] <lupilupi> ishit
[11:32] <songxk> I do not like that UI
[11:32] <lupilupi> i hate shit unity
[11:32] <lupilupi> ^^
[11:32] <FloodBot1> lupilupi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:32] <JJC> E: Malformed line 54 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)
[11:33] <songxk> Me too
[11:33] <MonkeyDust> lupilupi  easiest is to download the 11.10 iso and install that
[11:33] <sacarlson> lupilupi: you can install gnome-shell to make it almost the same as ubuntu 8.04
[11:33] <fishcooker> you're rite rag3-nix
[11:33] <JJC> It is the same, just minus the last bit.
[11:33] <Myrtti> lupilupi: please keep the language clean
[11:33] <fishcooker> what should i do?
[11:33] <songxk> sacarlson is right
[11:33] <fishcooker> grub install?
[11:33] <MonkeyDust> lupilupi  i don't like/use unity either, i use gnome classic, no need to be upset
[11:33] <lupilupi> Sorry For My Language
[11:33] <songxk> just use server-verison
[11:33] <lupilupi> But unity is relaly annoying me
[11:34] <lupilupi> I used it 1 minute it nerved me so much that i was going to shoot my pc out of the window
[11:34] <auronandace> lupilupi: why are you repeating all this? you were here under a different nick saying the same things a few days ago
[11:34] <songxk> There is no desktop  just a command line
[11:34] <songxk> that will be clear
[11:34] <JJC> auronandace: It appears to still have an issue.
[11:34] <auronandace> JJC: i'd file a bug report
[11:35] <songxk> A bug report?
[11:35] <rAg3-nix> fishcooker: as u said u have grub-legacy ...boot up a live cd of ubuntu which uses grub-legacy ... most probably 10.04 or 9.10
[11:35] <JJC> Ok, how do I do... Yeah, what songxk said.
[11:35] <auronandace> !launchpad | JJC
[11:35] <auronandace> !bug | JJC
[11:36] <fishcooker> i've tried it
[11:36] <songxk> Can some of u speak chinese?
[11:36] <MonkeyDust> !cn
[11:36] <fishcooker> # grub-install /dev/sda1
[11:36] <songxk> My Chinese is poor
[11:36] <auronandace> fishcooker: why are you installing to a partition?
[11:37] <auronandace> fishcooker: don't you want it on the mbr?
[11:37] <rAg3-nix> fishcooker: no .. that wont do !!  u will need to chroot into the previous installation !!  doing tht would install the grub of the live cd
[11:37] <MonkeyDust> songxk  and we don't speak it at all, what's the problem exactly?
[11:37] <rAg3-nix> fishcooker: follow instructions in this website to install grub of ur os backup
[11:37] <songxk> Nothing
[11:37] <rAg3-nix> fishcooker: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-restore-grub-boot-loader-after-installing-windows.html
[11:37] <fishcooker> should i mounted it first?
[11:38] <MonkeyDust> !ot| songxk
[11:38] <fishcooker> ou ok
[11:38] <rAg3-nix> fishcooker: yes you should !!  else you wont be able to chroot into it !!
[11:38] <fishcooker> ill check itout
[11:38] <fishcooker> let me dig in first
[11:38] <fishcooker> thanks for the link
[11:38] <rAg3-nix> fishcooker: and follow the steps for chrooting !!  that would tbe the second method !! and good luck !!
[11:39] <icambridge> Hey, who has an idea what "dpkg: failed to open `/var/lib/dpkg/status' for writing status information: Invalid argument" is all about?
[11:39] <Nunus> icambridge: what command ?
[11:39] <icambridge> apt-get upgrade
[11:39] <icambridge> Nunus: ^^^
[11:40] <rAg3-nix> icambridge: make sure u are using sudo ? !!  and also that no apt-get inscance is currently active
[11:40] <MonkeyDust> icambridge  first use sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:40] <rAg3-nix> icambridge: you cannot make use of dpkg without superuser privileges  !!
[11:40] <icambridge> rAg3-nix: I'm root.
[11:41] <songxk> It needs a administrator
[11:41] <Nunus> try dpkg --configure -a
[11:41] <Nunus> and re run your upgrade
[11:41] <auronandace> !noroot | icambridge
[11:41] <rAg3-nix> icambridge: then use ps -C apt-get to make sure no instance of apt-get are currently active !!
[11:41] <icambridge> rAg3-nix: no there isn't.
[11:42] <songxk> is ubottu a rebot?
[11:42] <rAg3-nix> icambridge: ubottu is right , use sudo by editing your sudoers instead of logging as a root user
[11:42] <johnm> auronandace: how did icambridge possibly suggest to anyone else how to go about setting a root password?
[11:42] <MonkeyDust> songxk  a bot, yes
[11:43] <auronandace> johnm: he said he was root, ubuntu doesn't support logging in as root
[11:44] <fishcooker> rag3-nix,
[11:44] <fishcooker> 1#mount /dev/sdc3 /mnt
[11:44] <fishcooker> 2#mount /dev/sdc2 /mnt/boot
[11:44] <fishcooker> 3#grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/ /dev/sdc
[11:44] <FloodBot1> fishcooker: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:44] <fishcooker> should i take 2#
[11:44] <johnm> auronandace: and how did you not know that his euid is root, opposed to loggign in as root? also, the message the bot gives implies he should not be informing others but logging in as root on your own machine is perfectly OK. So I fail to see your point.
[11:44] <fishcooker> if i've /boot on the same partittion
[11:44] <fishcooker> ?
[11:44] <rAg3-nix> auronandace: it would if someone makes a few changes ... but icambridge didnt suggest or mention how to perform those steps !!
[11:44] <johnm> icambridge: does the file actually exist (i'd expect a different error)
[11:45] <icambridge> johnm: I'll look into that thanks.
[11:45] <Nunus> icambridge: tried dpkg --configure -a ?
[11:45] <rAg3-nix> fishcooker: if u have boot in the same paritition you need not perform the 2nd step !!  as it would already be available from the 1st step
[11:45] <auronandace> johnm: sorry, perhaps i should have used the !root factoid instead, suggesting to use sudo
[11:45] <rAg3-nix> fishcooker: the second step is for if u have a separate partition
[11:45] <icambridge> Nunus: not yet no, will try that too
[11:46] <fishcooker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/903761/
[11:46] <johnm> icambridge: assuming it does exist, then it might be that it can't obtain an exclusive lock on the file (also unlikely), anything else should get logged
[11:46] <fishcooker> ooo ic
[11:49] <skraps> hey would storing files in SQL be faster than disk access with FAM?
[11:49] <MonkeyDust> what's FAM?
[11:49] <skraps> its a caching daemon for file descriptors
[11:49] <fishcooker> rag3-nix, on the 3# i should change /dev/sdc with my /dev/sda
[11:50] <rAg3-nix> fishcooker: yes .. u need to change it to the root of your hdd !!  that is .. for /dev/sda12 u need to do /dev/sda !!  /dev/sdb4 /dev/sdb !!
[11:50] <exabyte> Ahoy-hoy.
[11:51] <skraps> monkeydust: when a file is accessed on disk a file descriptor is created. Well instead of releasing the filedescriptor from ram FAM caches it so the file system does not have to access the disk again for a new file descriptor , it can just skip to accessing the good stuff right off the bat.
[11:54] <skraps> monkeydust: I almost got it, that is just half of it. It also monitors the files and marks when they have been changed so applications do not have to access the disk to tell if the file has been modified
[11:58] <phillijw> Hello best friends. Everytime my computer reboots I have to run "sudo modprobe b43" to get wireless working. How can I automate this?
[11:59] <Nunus> /etc/modules
[11:59] <acicula> phillijw: you can add it to /etc/modules so it gets loaded at boot, the file contains a description of what you have to put in there
[11:59] <Nunus> echo "b43" >> /etc/modules
[11:59] <Nunus> (with sudo privilegies)
[12:01] <phillijw> cool
[12:01] <phillijw> on another note, ubuntu doesnt come with vim installed?
[12:01] <Nunus> nop, just vi
[12:02] <auronandace> !info vim | phillijw
[12:02] <ye> Hi! I installed Windows XP in VMware 8 for Linux in my ubuntu, but i don't know how to connect to Internet in it , can you help me? In Ubuntu, i connect to Internet by PPPoE.
[12:03] <bazhang> ye  tried in #vmware yet?
[12:03] <MonkeyDust> ye  in vbox, the network has to be set to 'bridged' -- it may be similar in vmware
[12:04] <sheenzz> team linux..... whaooo!!!
[12:04] <bazhang> !ot | sheenzz
[12:05] <supson> hi
[12:06] <ye> MonkeyDust: I set the virtual machine's network adapter to NAT ,should i  configure something in Ubuntu?
[12:06] <sheenzz> ubottu: i can upgraded my os
[12:06] <bazhang> !upgrade | sheenzz
[12:07] <MonkeyDust> ye  change NAT to bridged, to make a 'bridge' to your existing network
[12:08] <iNable> hi
[12:09] <ye> MonkeyDust: OK, I changed it , now i power it on .......
[12:10] <iNable> using 11.10 with gnome-shell instead of unity... worked fine for a while but now if i open up the "dashboard" and start typing to open apps the whole window manager restarts and sometimes even just breaks without restarting forcing me to plull the plug... googled and didn't really found something... any ideas?
[12:11] <bazhang> iNable, what graphics card, which drivers how installed,
[12:11] <iNable> nvidia geforce gt8600m latest nvidia drivers installed
[12:12] <sacarlson> iNable: I"ve been running gnome-shell in 11.10 for some time with no problems,  what apps did you add in ppa when this started?
[12:12] <bazhang> nvidia-current? iNable from where
[12:12] <iNable> nothing in particular
[12:13] <rAg3-nix> iNable: can u log into unity  ? if you can , then if nothing else works , try reconfiguring the gnome-shell , that is if nothing else would work !!  thats what i did !!
[12:13] <iNable> bazhang: first via adding a ppa, but after installing the nvidia-current driver ubuntu told me there's a recomended newer driver... so i installed via the advanced driver options
[12:14] <mr-squidley> Nouveau im gussing ?
[12:14] <bazhang> iNable, and how did you remove the ppa
[12:14] <ye> MonkeyDust already connectd. Thanks a lot! :)
[12:14] <iNable> bazhang: standard i guess simply removing from the list
[12:15] <MonkeyDust> !yay| ye
[12:15] <nicofs> At boot I get this error: "Xsession: unable to launch "xubuntu" X session --- "xubuntu" not found; falling back to default session" - where the default session is LXDE but should be Lubuntu. What do I do?
[12:15] <bazhang> iNable, not using ppa purge? just manually editing the sources.list and removing the drivers with the package manager or what
[12:16] <iNable> just manually removing
[12:16] <shabbir> hi
[12:16] <bazhang> iNable, with which command
[12:17] <iNable> it might have something to do with docky becuase it get some errors ... docky needs composition
[12:17] <shabbir> i am trying to install drupal on my local machine and after completing all the steps and when i enable the site i get following error in my apache error.log file
[12:17] <iNable> but in my optionion i configured everything right
[12:17] <bazhang> iNable, using which command to remove the drivers manually
[12:18] <shabbir> "[Wed Mar 28 16:57:28 2012] [notice] Apache/2.2.20 (Ubuntu) PHP/5.3.6-13ubuntu3.6 with Suhosin-Patch configured -- resuming normal operations[Wed Mar 28 17:05:22 2012] [notice] caught SIGTERM, shutting downPHP Warning:  PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/lib/php5/20090626+lfs/sqlite.so' - /usr/lib/php5/20090626+lfs/sqlite.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or...
[12:18] <shabbir> ...directory in Unknown on line 0"please help me
[12:18] <iNable> bazhang: ehm i don't understand... i just installed the new ones and removed the reposity from my package list... do i have to remove the driver itself before isntalling a new one?!
[12:18] <bazhang> iNable, of course yes
[12:19] <iNable> oh ... didnÄt know that...
[12:19] <phillijw> I have a laptop and I'm wondering if I need to install something so the processor uses stepping correctly (idles down when not in use)
[12:19] <iNable> *didn't
[12:19] <bazhang> !ppa-purge | iNable
[12:19] <iNable> bazhang: thanks!
[12:19] <ibiwor> Hello! I see lot of mis paritioning error in fdisk - http://paste.ubuntu.com/903777/ - Is there a way to fix them?
[12:19] <cousin_luigi> Hello.
[12:20] <rAg3-nix> phillijw: what is the processor in your laptop ?
[12:20] <cousin_luigi> Whom can I tell that the recently pushed flashplayer (11.2) update makes me see blue faces ?
[12:21] <phillijw> rAg3-nix: intel core duo
[12:21] <rAg3-nix> phillijw: and what version of ubuntu are you using ?
[12:21] <phillijw> rAg3-nix: 11.10
[12:23] <ibiwor> Hello! I see lot of mis paritioning error in fdisk - http://paste.ubuntu.com/903777/ - Is there a way to fix them?
[12:23] <rAg3-nix> phillijw: then you can use cpufreqd and cpufreq applet , if u wish to change it manually !!  also you can use jupiter applet for ubuntu , it works great and has predefined governers and performance modes !!
[12:23] <rAg3-nix> phillijw: use this to install jupiter after you install cpufreqd !!  http://www.noobslab.com/2011/10/jupiter-applet-available-for-ubuntu.html
[12:29] <MonkeyDust> a PPA
[12:31] <fidel> got an issue with thunderbird & lightning here - while date in cli gives me a timestamp with 24h format - lightning seems to be limited to the 12h format - while i dont see an option to configure it for Thunderbird/Lightning. any idea? I know its only partly ubuntu-related - but im running it in ubuntu ;)
[12:31] <fidel> any idea how to get a lovely 24h timestamp in TB/Lightning on ubuntu?
[12:31] <MonkeyDust> what's Lightning?
[12:32] <mr-squidley> thuderbird
[12:32] <fidel> a cal-addon for Thunderbird
[12:32] <fidel> i guess the most well known addon at all for TB ;)
[12:32] <MonkeyDust> i don't use addons, lemme see
[12:32] <fidel> you can i.e. access your network-stored cal via lightning
[12:33] <fidel> the only one i am using as well ;)
[12:35] <fng_ubuntu> hi, i'm kind of new to ubuntu and have some trouble with lirc... anyone here that can help?
[12:41] <fishcooker> dfdj
[12:41] <cousin_luigi> Anyone else having problems with the new flashplugin (11.2) and youtube?
[12:42] <fishcooker> i think i should edit /boot/grub also
[12:42] <fishcooker> btw thanks for helping
[12:42] <fishcooker> ^^
[12:43] <phillijw> how can I run jupiter as a service?
[12:44] <phillijw> oh, /etc/xdg/autostart?
[12:45] <rAg3-nix> phillijw: you can add it to the startup applications gui tool !!  its in the settings !!
[12:46] <phillijw> where in the settings?
[12:47] <rAg3-nix> phillijw: there should be startup application icon !! or you can search it using unity dashboard !!
[12:49] <rAg3-nix> !exit
[12:50] <ballboy> wheres ferret_
[12:51] <ZIEX> Sorry?
[12:54] <pg345> anyone know what apt-get should be installed to get the modulecmd program installed?
[12:54] <soulraven> any one has any ideea, how can i make my wireless led to blink when is traffic in the wireless interface?
[12:54] <soulraven> i have a HP nx7400
[12:54] <soulraven> and the blue led is always on
[12:54] <ZIEX> aslong as apt-get is up to date i assume it should work functionally
[12:55] <ZIEX> I've no idea, soul. You may have to google that one
[12:55] <pg345> i know how to use apt-get, i'm just trying to find the name of the package i need to install to get that command and i can't find it
[12:56] <gnufs> i people
[12:56] <gnufs> I'm on 12.04, my first post-Unity Ubuntu install, and I can't seem to figure something out
[12:56] <gnufs> How can I increase the number of workspace?
[12:56] <gnufs> *workspaces
[12:56] <ZIEX> whats the package your trying to locate? or what does it do if you cannot name it?
[12:57] <ravn1> hi guyes, anyone here know about the new firewallD not started problem when trying to add printers? I can google'd it - but seem like new problem, and no solution found...
[12:57] <ZIEX> and it depends on the DE, in XFCE for exmaple you should get two whilst in gnome you get four if i'm correct
[12:57] <pg345> i'm looking for this: http://modules.sourceforge.net/man/module.html
[12:57] <zykotick9> gnufs: reask in #ubuntu+1
[12:58] <gnufs> i will, thanks
[12:58] <pg345> it allows you yto create a modle file for programs and let user load what they need on demand.
[12:59] <pg345> when i do aptitude search modules, lots of stuff comes out, but they all seem to be unrelated
[13:00] <ZIEX> Read the package instalization section, it seems to me that you don't need to download it but its already included in the base of your distribution, i may be incorecet
[13:01] <zykotick9> pg345: using "apt-cache search ^modules" i certainly don't see it listed - perhaps it's not a package in ubuntu?
[13:01] <ZIEX> reading from that site on that section i mentioned, it doesn't seem to be a package that needs to be downloaded
[13:05] <funnyhaha> trying to remove ndiswarpper and install a wireless driver, but i dont understand how
[13:05] <msucan> hello
[13:06] <msucan> i'm trying to install ubuntu on a macbook pro
[13:06] <funnyhaha> hello
[13:06] <msucan> where's the best place to ask questions about that?
[13:06] <funnyhaha> that
[13:06] <funnyhaha> im new i ask here
[13:07] <msucan> i have ubuntu installed and refit installed, but refit doesn't show
[13:07] <msucan> i can't get to ubuntu, nor to grub
[13:07] <msucan> i can only boot mac os x
[13:07] <yugandhar> how can we send a private msg to particular person through irc (Xchat)? Please answer me asap
[13:08] <fidel> yashshah: /query nickname
[13:08] <funnyhaha> i need help with a wireless driver anyone
[13:09] <fidel> that should be the commandline way - while xchat should offer a gui (context-menu) method as well
[13:09] <fidel> msucan: usually you dont use grub on apple boxes as boot-manager
[13:10] <sacarlson> funnyhaha: must be a broadcom ?
[13:10] <msucan> fidel: yep, i noticed that. still, refit doesn't show
[13:10] <msucan> and i have no way to boot ubuntu
[13:11] <funnyhaha> i have the driver its rtl8191su
[13:11] <fidel> msucan: macs are pretty special in that area ;)
[13:11] <fidel> msucan: sure you installed/configured refit correct? Last time i used it it just worked out of the box
[13:12] <fidel> msucan: consider asking in addition in a mac or hackintosh related channel ... thy might have more experiences
[13:12] <funnyhaha> i also olny have wireless internet and once i remove ndiswrapper i have no internet at all!
[13:13] <johnjacobjinger> thats the 5th time i've heard about this Wireless Internet thing... what the heck is wireless internet?
[13:13] <pg345> ZIEX: I know that on opensuse it's available with zypper, I thought it would be in ubuntu as well. I guess I'll have to install it. Thanks
[13:13] <msucan> fidel: i used the official dmg/pkg installation approach
[13:14] <funnyhaha> internet without wire
[13:15] <msucan> fidel: problem is that now mac os x sometimes 'hangs' during boot
[13:15] <msucan> before login
[13:16] <msucan> the wheel thingy below the apple logo continues to spin indefinitely
[13:16] <fidel> msucan: enable verbose boot to see more infos about the boot-process
[13:16] <msucan> fidel: how do i do that?
[13:16] <fidel> but we are getting pretty mac-specific here
[13:16] <fidel> msucan: depends if you want it one-time only or permanent
[13:16] <msucan> one-time?
[13:16] <fidel> cmd + v for once iirc
[13:17] <msucan> fidel: when do i need to press that?
[13:17] <fidel> while booting - similar to the moment you press cmd + S to get single user
[13:17] <msucan> ok
[13:17] <msucan> thanks
[13:17] <fidel> msucan: jump to a mac-channel - this is ubuntu support
[13:18] <msucan> fidel: i'm trying to figure out ubuntu on a macbook. #ubuntu-mactel is empty
[13:18] <sacarlson> funnyhaha: I didn't see what version of ubuntu you are now running,  seems that device works out of the box in ubuntu 11.10 and 11.04, for 10.10
[13:19] <fidel> i know what you are trying to achive - but most points above are pretty much mac-centric -> i assume you get more help there for that part. anyways - do as you think & good luck ;)
[13:19] <funnyhaha> 10.4 im downloading 10.10 now in case i dont get a driver to work
[13:20] <sacarlson> funnyhaha: sounds like the best move just install 11.10 or 10.10 if you prefer
[13:20] <zykotick9> funnyhaha: fyi 10.10 is EOL next month (i believe)
[13:21] <funnyhaha> EOL?
[13:21] <Myrtti> end of life
[13:21] <zykotick9> !eol
[13:21] <funnyhaha> o
[13:21] <sacarlson> funnyhaha: ya why would you want such an old version if your just installing it,  I assumed that was a typo
[13:22] <funnyhaha> i tried 11.10 something when wron
[13:22] <funnyhaha> wrong
[13:23] <sacarlson> funnyhaha: ok well I did find this info if you get stuck with 10.04 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1876865
[13:25] <sacarlson> funnyhaha: but you have no other computer that you could use as a tether from wifi to ethernet?  if that was the case I guess you might need apt2cd to install like the firmware stuf
[13:26] <foo485> Hello
[13:26] <yugandhar> Hi, How can we restrict one user to login  to the server through SSH?
[13:27] <funnyhaha> yeah i have window and the wifi was working in windows but it just stoped
[13:27] <jrib> yugandhar: see AllowUsers (and related options) in « man sshd_config »
[13:27] <ratcheer> yugandhar: I saw a great article on that in ubuntuforums, last night. I'll get you a link.
[13:27] <foo485> I'm using 10.04 LTS and doing some java development with an sdk. The sdk recommends using Java SE 6 update 12 or higher
[13:27] <yugandhar> ratcheer : - pls give me that
[13:27] <sacarlson> yugandhar: you want to disable in ssh but still operate in other parts?
[13:28] <foo485> I'm also using openjdk
[13:28] <yugandhar> sacarlson , i want restrict the one particular user to login via ssh
[13:29] <jrib> yugandhar: as opposed to what?
[13:29] <JoeyJoeJo> I want to boot ubuntu from a compact flash card. What is the minimum install size for ubuntu. I don't need X or any gui stuff.
[13:29] <sacarlson> yugandhar: yes I got that but you have more that one user and others users must still be able to use everything except can't login to ssh?
[13:29] <ratcheer> yugandhar: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1895084 - See section 10 step 3
[13:30] <curiousx> ciao a tutti
[13:30] <yugandhar> sacarlson: - Yes correct
[13:31] <zykotick9> JoeyJoeJo: using mini - with NOTHING selected during tasksel, 11.10 is 872M - with Xorg added 975M
[13:32] <JoeyJoeJo> thanks
[13:32] <sacarlson> yugandhar: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-limit-what-users-can-log-onto-system-via-ssh/
[13:33] <zykotick9> !mini > JoeyJoeJo in case you don't know what i meant by mini
[13:33] <yugandhar> sacarlson, ratcheer:  thanks
[13:33] <jerram> um hello?
[13:34] <firas> hi guys
[13:34] <curiousx> aloha
[13:34] <firas> i upgraded 11.04 to 11.10
[13:34] <firas> and i'm having problems
[13:34] <curiousx> what kind?
[13:34] <jerram> man it was tricky to get here via natty & pidgin
[13:34] <bazhang> firas, whats the issue, all on one line
[13:35] <majid> hi
[13:35] <curiousx> ciao
[13:35] <jerram> seriously need a simple ubuntu get-2-irc option
[13:35] <firas> in 11.04 i used gdm and i chose lightdm in 11.10 (i enabled automatic login in installing 11.04)
[13:35] <bazhang> jerram, what?
[13:36] <firas> it doesn't show lightdm
[13:36] <jerram> @bazhang hi :)
[13:36] <bazhang> jerram, use another irc client if you dont like pidgin
[13:37] <jerram> im trying to troubleshoot a natty dvi issue
[13:37] <yzhd> I was installing ubuntu 11.10 from live cd.. I had selected partition and all.. then I clicked on install. I had slected my keyboard layout.. and all of the sudden the installed just dissapperaed.. but when I go to system monitor, I see that space is decreased.. which means that it is still installing.. what shal I do guys ?
[13:37] <firas> in another installtion which was upgraded to 11.10 every was successful ( automatic login was off)
[13:38] <firas> guys??
[13:38] <yzhd> I was installing ubuntu 11.10 from live cd.. I had selected partition and all.. then I clicked on install, and then  keyboard layout.. and all of the sudden the installer just dissapperaed.. but when I go to system monitor, I see that space is decreasing.. which means that it is still installing.. what shal I do guys ?
[13:39] <bazhang> !repeat | yzhd
[13:39] <detch1> when i open php project i face ablank page i am using xampp ?
[13:39] <yzhd> I had a lot of misspelling, sorry :D
[13:39] <funnyhaha_> ok im trying to follow this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1674994
[13:39] <curiousx> firas: this may help ya: http://www.tuxgarage.com/2011/09/setting-lightdm-to-auto-login-oneiric.html
[13:39] <firas> guys??
[13:39] <curiousx> if you can access to the desktop
[13:40] <zykotick9> !xampp | detch1
[13:40] <canaima> hola
[13:40] <curiousx> es | canaima
[13:40] <curiousx> !es | canaima
[13:41] <Shojo> Can a mac user get aptitude ?
[13:41] <funnyhaha_> but i type in cd desktop/rtl and it says no file of directory
[13:41] <bazhang> Shojo, no
[13:41] <jerram> @detch1 set your php.ini logging  up and look there
[13:41] <detch1> why you don't support xampp and is any room support xampp ?
[13:41] <yzhd> anyone?
[13:41] <Shojo> thanks bazhang
[13:41] <bazhang> yzhd, patience
[13:42] <yzhd> it's just that.. I'm not sure if it si installing or not..
[13:42] <yzhd> it's happening right now
[13:42] <bazhang> funnyhaha_, its Desktop with a large case D
[13:42] <funnyhaha_> yeah
[13:42] <funnyhaha_> i think
[13:42] <detch1> where is php.ini
[13:42] <bazhang> funnyhaha_, thats not what you wrote
[13:42] <yzhd> !help | bazhang
[13:43] <bazhang> yzhd, dont do that
[13:43] <yzhd> !patience
[13:43] <Pici> detch1: Depending on which one you're looking for: /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini or /etc/php5/cli/php.ini
[13:43] <funnyhaha_> o i just gt this sry did not think
[13:43] <Shojo> lol
[13:43] <yzhd> bazhang,
[13:43] <yzhd> do you have that red text because you're a mod ?
[13:44] <bazhang> yzhd, we see your issue stop asking every five seconds
[13:44] <Pici> yzhd: its because he is directing his comments to you (your name is that the front of his message)
[13:44] <yzhd> bazhang, sorry
[13:44] <yzhd> Pici, thanks
[13:45] <f3ck4r> hi minna!
[13:46] <funnyhaha_> cd Desktop/rtl    i put that in and it told me no file
[13:46] <mbeierl> funnyhaha_, perhaps ~/Desktop/rtl ?
[13:46] <GIANT_BLACK_WANG> how do i niggerfy my unity desktop?
[13:46] <yzhd> niggerfy ?
[13:46] <yzhd> lol
[13:46] <Nightweels> lol
[13:46] <f3ck4r> wtf is niggerfy?!
[13:46] <ejv> move along chaps
[13:46] <LjL> please don't feed the troll
[13:47] <funnyhaha_> with ~ to
[13:47] <yzhd> no one ?
[13:47] <f3ck4r> lol
[13:47] <nearst> about?
[13:47] <bazhang> !helpme | yzhd
[13:47] <ZIEX>  /facepalm
[13:47] <yzhd> is there a chat called ubuntu1 or something ?
[13:47] <bazhang> yzhd, stop asking every five seconds
[13:47] <nearst> -.-\
[13:47] <ejv> i assume someone did the patience trigger on him already?
[13:48] <f3ck4r> yzhd: idk
[13:48] <funnyhaha_> no that did not work
[13:48] <yzhd> I'm in a critical situation.. I don't know if ubuntu is formatting my partition/installing...
[13:48] <yzhd> I can't wait 15 min
[13:48] <funnyhaha_> i put in   ~/Desktop/rtl
[13:48] <yzhd> partition starts to dissapear in system monitor
[13:48] <mbeierl> yzhd, there is #ubuntu+1 which is for the development of the next release of ubuntu
[13:48] <fidel> yzhd: lemme guess - you didndt follow our hint yesterday to do a backup first ...right? ;)
[13:48] <ejv> yzhd: http://www.canonical.com/enterprise-services/support/server/service-level-agreements
[13:48] <f3ck4r> dissapear?!
[13:49] <f3ck4r> explain to us how u can make you partition dissapear
[13:49] <Shojo> yzhd: what do u have on your os?
[13:49] <Shojo> your system* srry
[13:49] <yzhd> nope, but I installed ubuntu yesterday.. everything was working fine.. but I wanted to reinstall it, as I installed a lot of things I don't need.
[13:49] <abvayad> Hi
[13:49] <yzhd> my os is windows vista
[13:49] <f3ck4r> abvayad: hi
[13:49] <nearst> yzhd,and then?
[13:49] <yzhd> Im currently in ubuntu 11.10 (live cd)
[13:49] <f3ck4r> yzhd: so
[13:50] <yzhd> nearst, I was installing ubuntu 11.10 from live cd.. I had selected partition and all.. then I clicked on install. I had slected my keyboard layout.. and all of the sudden the installed just dissapperaed.. but when I go to system monitor, I see that space is decreased.. which means that it is still installing.. what shall I do guys ?
[13:50] <Shojo> yzhd: so u have important files in vista that you don't want to loose by installing ubuntu the wrong way?
[13:50] <yzhd> yes
[13:50] <Pici> yzhd: Are you sure that the installer isn't on another virtual desktop?
[13:50] <LjL> yzhd: maybe you've in
[13:50] <f3ck4r> omg, just create a new partition with the free space
[13:50] <LjL> nevermind, what pici said :P
[13:50] <thiebaude> dual boot should be easy
[13:50] <nearst> yzhd,try reboot and start the installation weather the ubuntu can detect your current partition
[13:50] <bahamas> hello. I'm trying to copy a directory a usb stick and the copying process gets stuck? how can I stop it to remove the stick? Eject doesn't work
[13:51] <f3ck4r> thiebaude: yea
[13:51] <ejv> if you're a novice, backing up your important files, is a worthwhile endeavor.
[13:51] <nearst> bahamas,try umount /<your disk>
[13:51] <Shojo> yzhd: Well if youconfigured it right i don't think it matters if you are seeing what it does, it can only do what you set it to do
[13:51] <f3ck4r> nope
[13:51] <yzhd> shojo, how do I know when it's finished?
[13:52] <nearst> yzhd,i think your ubuntu installer is crash. try cfdisk /dev/sda
[13:52] <abvayad> Is there any way to use pendrive to improve perfomence of pc ,as in the case of win7
[13:52] <bazhang> abvayad, like bitlocker? or what
[13:52] <yzhd> FAIL ERROR, CANNOT OPEN DISK DRIVE
[13:53] <LjL> yzhd: are you SURE you aren't simply in the wrong virtual desktop?
[13:53] <zykotick9> abvayad: usb is a very slow medium, usings as virtual memory is silly.  (plus shorts the life of the USB as well)
[13:53] <nearst> yzhd,try !ntfs-3g
[13:53] <bazhang> abvayad, some kind of boost?
[13:53] <abvayad> Yeah
[13:53] <LjL> nearst: what does NTFS have to do with this?
[13:53] <ejv> yzhd: reboot, verify the integrity of the disk (both ondisk tool and md5sum), then retry the installation.
[13:53] <bahamas> nearst: thanks. do you have any idea how I can debug why the copying gets stuck?
[13:53] <bazhang> abvayad, no, then
[13:53] <yzhd> md5 = verified already
[13:53] <yzhd> nearst, will try
[13:54] <nearst> to fix the ntfs partition file. idk . just suggestion
[13:54] <bazhang> its all ubuntu from what he said
[13:54] <yzhd> should I reboot guys ?
[13:54] <ejv> unless you want to keep staring at nothing all day long...
[13:54] <mbeierl> bahamas, tail -100 /var/log/syslog - see if there are any errors about writing blocks or so to the stick?
[13:54] <nearst> owh.
[13:54] <abvayad> If usb is very slow why windows using it to improve perfomence?
[13:55] <abvayad> ?
[13:55] <nearst> yzhd, what is the situation now? try cat /proc/partitions?
[13:56] <bazhang> abvayad, try asking in ##windows
[13:56] <yzhd> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ cat  /proc/partitions major minor  #blocks  name     7        0     683116 loop0    8        0  312571224 sda    8        1  254446552 sda1    8        2          1 sda2    8        3   10599424 sda3    8        4    2048000 sda4    8        5   45473792 sda5 ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[13:56] <nearst> yzhd,omg. 5 partitions?
[13:56] <yzhd> 2 = from before
[13:56] <yzhd> 1 is ext 4
[13:56] <yzhd> one is swap
[13:57] <yzhd> the 5th.. I don't know
[13:57] <FloodBot1> yzhd: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:57] <yzhd> it automatically came
[13:57] <nearst> problem now? cant boot ubuntu? or want to get back your windows?
[13:58] <yzhd> Windows partition is not touched.. so nothing have happened to it.. I just want ubuntu installer tto work. Should I reboot?
[13:58] <ejv> wouldn't it be more logical to rule out the possibility of hardware failure, before blaming the installer or an error in partitioning? do you have another livecd you can try? another hard disk? etc.
[13:59] <yzhd> I know it's not the dvd, as installing ubuntu worked fine yesterday
[13:59] <Shojo> yzhd: If the progress you were able to to see has stopped ,then reboot and see what happens
[13:59] <yzhd> I did some stuffs, and I wanted to factory reset, that's why I'm installing it again
[13:59] <nearst> owh. i experience such problem before. what im doing is change the partitions type to reiserfs to make it dual boot
[13:59] <Shojo> yzhd: that sounds shady
[14:00] <nearst> idk. but the ext4 cant handle the grub-install
[14:00] <ejv> grub2 handles ext4 quite nicely
[14:00] <yzhd> it can't ? in guides, I read that I should use ext4 + it worked yesterday ?
[14:01] <f3ck4r> I use ext2
[14:01] <bahamas> mbeierl: no errors. last message is "Attached SCSI removable disk"
[14:01] <yzhd> so ext4 is not recommended ?
[14:01] <bahamas> "Assuming drive cache: write through" before that
[14:01] <f3ck4r> bahamas: idk, never use lol
[14:01] <bahamas> f3ck4r: what?
[14:02] <f3ck4r> bahamas: ext4
[14:02] <nearst> ejv, idk. but im hate ext4, im use ext3 or reiserfs anyway. and install grub-pc
[14:02] <bahamas> f3ck4r: you're confusing people
[14:02] <f3ck4r> im not
[14:02] <mbeierl> bahamas, ok.  How is it "stuck"?  And how are you copying the file, GUI or terminal?
[14:02] <f3ck4r> you can use ext4 or ext2 or whatever you want
[14:02] <ejv> nearst: if you say so
[14:03] <bahamas> mbeierl: GUI. it gets close to finishing and remains like that 590 MB out of 600, for example. it's never the same amount
[14:03] <ZIEX> Back
[14:04] <ZIEX> Anyone sending private messages to me i have accidentially closed them, was busy with yzhd. Problem solved. Please PM me back to continue previous discussions. Thankyou.
[14:06] <pi3ch> Has anyone using SSH to ubuntu with public/private key having problem with Unicode characters? when I ssh using keys unicode charaters do not show properly. I do not have this problem when ssh using password (PAM)
[14:07] <bahamas> mbeierl: copying from the terminal also gets stuck
[14:07] <nearst> pi3ch,why not just using PAM instead key ? :)
[14:08] <pi3ch> @nearst: Security reasons :)
[14:08] <mbeierl> bahamas, try, from a terminal, issue the "sync" command.  See if it comes back right away or if it "hangs" too
[14:08] <bahamas> who's an op here? there's a guy sending invites to channels
[14:08] <LjL> bahamas: please report to #ubuntu-ops
[14:08] <nearst> pi3ch, speed vs security :)
[14:08] <darkfire> ciao
[14:08] <darkfire> !list
[14:09] <darkfire> oook
[14:09] <sacarlson> bahamas: you can use your irc client ignore
[14:09] <nearst> lol
[14:09] <pi3ch> It is kind of strang, why unicode characters do not show propely using ssh private public key authentication!
[14:10] <nearst> ansi work well?
[14:10] <bahamas> mbeierl: it tells me "ignoring all arguments" and hangs as well
[14:11] <bahamas> mbeierl: it seems to have been copied though. at least the sizes match
[14:12] <sacarlson> pi3ch: I use ssh keys but never noticed any unicode isues when I moved from passwords
[14:12] <foobArrr> My keyboard and mouse suddenly stopped working while typing. This happened the third time today. I still can ssh in the machine. dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/903945/
[14:12] <mbeierl> bahamas, so what it could be is that it's a case of slow usb stick and fast memory cache.  It thinks it was done copying, but it needed to flush the contents to the stick and that's what too so long at the end
[14:12] <pi3ch> sacarlson: what ssh client and server are you using?
[14:13] <sacarlson> pi3 on the client side OpenSSH_5.8p1 Debian-7ubuntu1, OpenSSL 1.0.0e 6 Sep 2011
[14:13] <Nightweels> where to report missing things or quality issues?
[14:14] <sacarlson> Nightweels: the police station?
[14:14] <Nightweels> i mean in ubuntu
[14:14] <Nightweels> its just about details...
[14:14] <LjL> !bugs | Nightweels, i guess it depends on what is "missing" or an "issue" but
[14:15] <Nightweels> "that makes the différence...
[14:15] <pi3ch> I m not sure is a client/server side issue.
[14:15] <detch1> when i open php project i face ablank page i am using xampp ?  i opened php.ini but i don't know what can i do ?
[14:15] <bazhang> detch1, xampp is not supported as we have said
[14:16] <fidel> detch1: phpinfo()
[14:16] <fidel> makes sense as a first test to see if your lamp setup works or not
[14:16] <beasty> what is xampp ?
[14:16] <detch1> no problem in phpinfo
[14:16] <fidel> beasty: some non-secure (iirc) lamp-env for devs
[14:16] <beasty> oh ok
[14:16] <fidel> easy to setup - but not to be used in the real world
[14:17] <nujabes> can rpm be used on ubuntu?
[14:17] <bahamas> mbeierl: I see. good to know
[14:17] <zykotick9> nujabes: you shouldn't
[14:17] <fidel> detch1: if phpinfo works there is no reason that VALID php codes doenst work
[14:17] <nujabes> zykotick9: why?
[14:17] <beasty> nujabes: alien - convert and install rpm and other packages :p
[14:17] <zykotick9> nujabes: it's made for a different system
[14:17] <fidel> consider checking your code - at that case its most likely the wrong channel here ;)
[14:18] <fidel> detch1: i assume you dont enabled debug-output
[14:18] <sacarlson> nujabes: only as a last resort; even compiling in most cases is better
[14:18] <zykotick9> sacarlson: s/even//
[14:18] <nancy--> is there a good service by which users can give their credit cards on a site for shopping and the amount is transfered to the site owners account after varification with no monthly fees (paypal doesnt works in my contry, ind pk)
[14:18] <nujabes> sacarlson: thanks
[14:19] <sacarlson> nujabes: but look to ppa first if not already in repositories
[14:19] <beasty> nancy--: what country ?
[14:19] <bazhang> nancy--, how does that relate to ubuntu
[14:20] <nujabes> sacarlson: what's ppa good for?
[14:20] <kayaman> hi all
[14:20] <thiebaude> !ppa
[14:20] <nancy--> beasty,  india pakistan
[14:20] <detch1> i don't know debug-output
[14:20] <beasty> nancy--: no clue about that
[14:20] <beasty> sorry
[14:20] <sacarlson> nujabes: as thiebaude points out
[14:20] <bazhang> nancy--, how is this related to ubuntu support
[14:21] <fidel> detch1: in short - if phpinfo works - your lamp-environment basically works
[14:21] <thiebaude> nancy maybe ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:21] <beasty> sacarlson: ubuntu users mostly have a cc :p
[14:21] <fidel> detch1: that means php is fine --> your code isnt
[14:21] <thiebaude> even tho dont seem ubuntu related
[14:21] <detch1> yes php is fine but some projects is blank
[14:21] <fidel> detch1: if you would enable debug output your lamp-setup should be able to display error-messages instead of a blank-page
[14:21] <detch1> why
[14:21] <bazhang> !xampp | detch1 fidel
[14:22] <bazhang> !lamp | detch1 use this
[14:22] <fidel> ;)
[14:22] <beasty> (:
[14:22] <fidel> bazhang: thats why i tried to point him to lamp already ;)
[14:22] <bazhang> detch1, its not supported here, so please stop asking for support
[14:23] <fidel> bazhang: is there a list (bot or similar) of unsupported topics?
[14:23] <bazhang> fidel, /msg ubottu factoids
[14:23] <fidel> just to avoid such things in the future
[14:23] <fidel> k - thanks
[14:24] <detch1> ok how can i remove xampp with out any errors when i setup lampp
[14:24] <fidel> detch1: that is again a xampp question
[14:25] <LjL> detch1: isn't it all installed in /opt?
[14:25] <detch1> yes
[14:25] <LjL> detch1: then just removing the directory from /opt/ should work
[14:25] <detch1> i ask how can i remove xampp to install this lamp with out any problems
[14:26] <LjL> detch1: actually i don't think you should have problems even if you *don't* remove it, but again, it should be as simple as removing the directory
[14:27] <sacarlson> ljl: detch1: I would assume there might also be something in /etc/init.d/  but I guess if the files are missing it will just fail to start
[14:28] <LjL> sacarlson: document i'm reading says things like "sudo /opt/lampp/lampp start", so likely that isn't the case
[14:28] <sacarlson> ljl: they don't autostart at boot?
[14:28] <Nightweels> Im beginner in the linux/world os how to know the <package> of "x" program of part of the os?
[14:28] <Nightweels> linux/ubuntu* word
[14:29] <LjL> sacarlson: i think now. see, http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp-linux.html#377 is simply how you install it
[14:29] <LjL> Nightweels: dpkg -S filename
[14:29] <LjL> s/now/not/
[14:30] <kayaman> lsusb
[14:30] <kayaman> lspci
[14:31] <sddhrthrt> Where is the ubuntu 12.04 channel?
[14:31] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1
[14:31] <sddhrthrt> bazhang: That is the channel?
[14:32] <bazhang> yes sddhrthrt
[14:32] <sddhrthrt> thanks :) bazhang
[14:32] <kayaman> lsall
[14:32] <endafy> how do I add an icon to the desktop in 11.04?
[14:32] <endafy> 11.10 rather
[14:32] <kayaman> endafy, drag and drop
[14:33] <endafy> omg ty so much
[14:33] <kayaman> endafy, do get it
[14:33] <endafy> the sidebar is cool but I use more than what the sidebar can offer thank you so much
[14:33] <SandroSantos> hey guys, I am the root user, and I need to block the w command to a defined user (eg.: paul), how I can make this?
[14:34] <kayaman> endafy, does it successfully
[14:34] <Nightweels> LjL: can you tell me what happens when I use the command you told me before?
[14:34] <bazhang> SandroSantos, root? you mean sudo I hope. the root account is not enabled
[14:34] <LjL> Nightweels: uh, what you asked for happens. it searches for which package contains the file you mentioned.
[14:34] <SandroSantos> bazhang: yes, the sudo
[14:34] <SandroSantos> I need to block the w command to a specific user eg.: paul
[14:34] <bazhang> SandroSantos, why do you need to do that
[14:35] <sipior> SandroSantos: you could write a wrapper around the command, to check the uid before executing. crude, but i guess it would work.
[14:35] <kayaman> endafy i need to kow if wait helpfully
[14:35] <Nightweels> ah ok thanks^
[14:35] <sipior> SandroSantos: it's kind of an odd thing to do, however..
[14:35] <kayaman> endafy say sth
[14:36] <bazhang> kayaman, he quit some time ago
[14:37] <nancy--> what is Gateway Usage****  € 19.95 per month?
[14:37] <bazhang> nancy--, thats offtopic here
[14:39] <Pici> nancy--: This is ubuntu support only. Chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:39] <rogst> SandroSantos: you could block access for paul on the file /Usr/bin/w
[14:41] <detch1> i installed lampp
[14:41] <detch1> but when i go to phpmyadmin 404
[14:41] <detch1> and i added the line by Include /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf  
[14:43] <SandroSantos> rogst: how can I make this on the /usr/bin/w ?
[14:43] <ix_> hello, why can't I connect to any encrypted wireless network on lubuntu 12.04? I can't even click on any of them
[14:43] <ix_> the guys over at lubuntu are sleeping
[14:43] <bazhang> ix_, #ubuntu+1
[14:44] <thiebaude> ix_, check in #ubuntu+1
[14:44] <ix_> ok, ok
[14:44] <yzhd> Hi guys :)
[14:44] <yzhd> It worked
[14:44] <thiebaude> bazhang, i thought i did not have that right at first,lol
[14:44] <detch1> please about the users said to me remove xampp and install lamp i can't go to phpmyadmin what can i do ?
[14:44] <yzhd> Is there a fix for the heating problem on ubuntu 11.10 ?
[14:44] <thiebaude> when he said lubuntu
[14:45] <rogst> SandroSantos: you would need to make sure paul is not a member of the group on the file and that others dont have execute permissions
[14:45] <bazhang> thiebaude, yeah all development 12.04 are there
[14:46] <thiebaude> yep, was not sure of lubuntu, but i did know ubuntu was in there
[14:46] <thiebaude> im usung 12.04 myself
[14:46] <thiebaude> using
[14:46] <rogst> detch1: you can install phpmyadmin from the repositroies
[14:46] <detch1> it's already installed
[14:47] <i7c> detch1: did you restart apache after adding the line to the conf ?
[14:47] <mneptok> detch1: you installed it via repositories?
[14:47] <yzhd> upgrading from 11.10 to 12.04 .. is it worth it guys ?
[14:47] <detch1> no
[14:47] <mneptok> yzhd: 12.04 is not supported here
[14:47] <detch1> sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin
[14:48] <yzhd> ok..
[14:48] <i7c> detch1: if that 'no' was for me, do the restart
[14:48] <yzhd> why do I have to wait two seconds before I can move the mouse after typing ?
[14:48] <i7c> detch1: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[14:49] <detch1> $ sudo /usr/sbin/apache2ctl restart             apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName
[14:49] <i7c> detch1: that's not a problem. should run anyways.
[14:49] <i7c> detch1: go to localhost/phpmyadmin
[14:49] <detch1> ok thank you
[14:49] <detch1> now it work
[14:50] <rogst> yzhd: I think there an option tolock the touchpad while typing
[14:51] <yzhd> how can I unceck it ?
[14:51] <greenmang0> how can i install php5-mysql without installing apache?
[14:51] <rajarshi> can any1 help me how to run jar files through java wireless toolkit in ubun tu 11.10
[14:52] <i7c> greenmang0: just install the php/mysql packages. you dont need to install the apache package for that.
[14:52] <thiebaude> yzhd, in system settings
[14:53] <greenmang0> i7c, i know... but when i try to install  php5-mysql .. it automatically installs apache
[14:53] <yzhd> thanks guys, it worked :D
[14:53] <thiebaude> :)
[14:53] <thiebaude> yzhd,
[14:53] <yzhd> Any idea about ubuntu 11.10 heating problem ?
[14:54] <revtenhigh> i just installed ubuntu 11.10 dual boot and would like someone to help me increase the disk space available to ubuntu.  i still have 50 gigs left but it wont use them. any help?  i've looked around and UTFSE but i cant find any of the menus discussed
[14:54] <bazhang> revtenhigh, using gparted live cd , or ubuntu live cd
[14:55] <revtenhigh> bazhang, i installed gparted via the terminal but i'm a bit new to this.  if i want to use the ubuntu cd, do i need to boot from it?
[14:56] <bazhang> revtenhigh, you have to boot from a live cd, yes
[14:56] <i7c> greenmang0: that's weird. check the dependencies with apt-rdepends php5-mysql ;)
[14:56] <revtenhigh> ok thanks i'll give that a try
[14:57] <i7c> greenmang0: maybe apache already was on your system before?
[14:58] <fasta> Is there an editor where I can zoom in and out?
[14:58] <rajarshi> jcan any1 help plz????
[14:58] <thiebaude> !editor
[14:58] <_Marcus> rajarshi: Java Wireless Toolkit? What's that
[14:58] <bazhang> rajarshi, with the jar files? you asked earlier and got an answer
[14:59] <rajarshi> ya..but i need to run it through wireless toolkit
[14:59] <rajarshi> in my academic projct..
[15:00] <rajarshi> bazhang...plz can u help me out...
[15:00] <bazhang> rajarshi, do what exactly. please be very clear
[15:01] <fasta> thiebaude: now please try again to answer the question.
[15:01] <rajarshi> i need to run  mobile emulators in my project for sending files using ip address
[15:01] <sddhrthrt> !code
[15:01] <sddhrthrt> !editor
[15:01] <thiebaude> fasta, whats the question?
[15:01] <rajarshi> dats why i need to run d jar files using wireless toolkit
[15:01] <sddhrthrt> !ics
[15:01] <thiebaude> lol
[15:01] <fasta> That's not answering the question.
[15:01] <bazhang> sddhrthrt, /msg ubottu
[15:02] <sddhrthrt> ok :)
[15:02] <fasta> thiebaude: uhm, I just asked it.
[15:02] <thiebaude> ask it again
[15:02] <LjL> fasta: Kate
[15:02] <fasta> LjL: can Kate really do that? So, I am not just talking about in/decreasing the font size.
[15:02] <msucan> fidel: i got refit to work and now i can boot ubuntu, but when i start X, it's a dark screen
[15:03] <rajarshi> bazhang...did u get my problm???
[15:03] <msucan> recovery mode works. but if i try to start x in failsafe mode i get "no screens found"
[15:03] <LjL> fasta: uhm, what then? it being just a text file, i'm not sure i see what else zooming in and out would mean
[15:03] <bazhang> rajarshi, no
[15:04] <fasta> LjL: zooming implies a continuous motion.
[15:04] <_Marcus> rajarshi: He didn't ask what the program does, he is asking what you need help with exactly
[15:04] <fasta> LjL: your suggestion is a discrete motion.
[15:04] <LjL> fasta: Ctrl + mouse wheel
[15:04] <sipior> fasta: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Accessibility
[15:04] <fasta> sipior: I am not blind.
[15:05] <bazhang> fasta, tone down the attitude
[15:05] <sipior> fasta: explain how a screen magnification program will not do what you need.
[15:05] <fasta> LjL: that doesn't even work.
[15:05] <fasta> bazhang: or else?
[15:06] <bazhang> fasta, pardon?
[15:06] <LjL> fasta: in Kate it does.
[15:06] <fasta> LjL: it doesn't here.
[15:06] <sipior> fasta: is there a reason we should continue to care about your question? your manners say "no".
[15:06] <thiebaude> fasta, or nobody should help you with that attitude
[15:06] <LjL> fasta: that's why i suggested Kate?
[15:06] <thiebaude> i wouldn't
[15:06] <_Marcus> thiebaude: Then act, not say :P
[15:07] <pi3ch> Set the ssh client to ansi and it fixed the private key unicode issue :)
[15:07] <fasta> thiebaude: none of the people have the intelligence to help anyway, judging by their responses.
[15:07] <fasta> Thanks for trying. Bye.
[15:07] <_Marcus> fasta: Then leave.
[15:07] <cuppsy> Is it possible to update indicator-messages in 10.04 to the Me Menu for 10.10 or later (would like Thunderbird and other integration)?
[15:07] <thiebaude> wow
[15:08] <sipior> i'll miss him.
[15:08] <thiebaude> fasta maybe there is no answer to your question, just saying
[15:10] <_Marcus> thiebaude: He left already, and is banned
[15:10] <thiebaude> ok
[15:10] <thiebaude> :)
[15:10] <nabukadnezar43> how can i install all gstreamer plugins with one command?
[15:10] <thiebaude> i seen the set ban but not the name
[15:10] <nabukadnezar43> sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins?
[15:11] <funnyhaha> need more help with wifi card
[15:11] <_Marcus> thiebaude: He set a ban on his hostname, not the nick. Anyway, enough about this, on topic time.
[15:11] <_Marcus> funnyhaha: Help with what?
[15:11] <chrisgeorge> Anyone have experience with ubuntu 10.04, pip, and virtual envs?
[15:11] <chrisgeorge> while using root.
[15:11] <thiebaude> _Marcus, yes i agree,moiving on time
[15:11] <thiebaude> moving
[15:11] <_Marcus> !anyone | chrisgeorge
[15:12] <Nightweels> changing computer name by changing "hostname" file does it require restart? it still  "name@old_hostname:" in the terminal. If there is graphical solution to change it I would happy to know it.
[15:12] <funnyhaha> RNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper, it will be ignored in a future release.  what dose that mean
[15:12] <_Marcus> Nightweels: I believe it requires a restart.
[15:12] <chrisgeorge> Ok. Has anyone run into issues running pip1.1 in a virtualenv where it installs to the global site-packages instead of the virtualenv?
[15:13] <Nightweels> haha! ok its just Im a little lazy^^
[15:13] <MonkeyDust> chrisgeorge  just ask your question, pls
[15:13] <_Marcus> Nightweels: They invinted a command for lazy people :P "sudo shutdown -r 0"
[15:13] <sipior> chrisgeorge: no. you're quite sure you're running pip from within the virtualenv?
[15:13] <chrisgeorge> MonkeyDust:  THAT was the question
[15:14] <chrisgeorge> sipior: Yup, virtualenv is activated or using /virtualenv/bin/pip
[15:14] <_Marcus> chrisgeorge: It sounds like more of a poll than a support question
[15:14] <chrisgeorge> whatever _Marcus
[15:14] <thiebaude> _Marcus, here we go
[15:14] <funnyhaha> i did that what happens is i put in  modprobe 8712u then i get that massage and my wifi works when i restart it will now work till i put that in
[15:15] <sipior> chrisgeorge: if you run the virtualenv python, do you have leftover bits of the system python in sys.path?
[15:15] <urist_> I'm considering using an email client on my Ubuntu, and I am not sure whether to go with Evolution or Thunderbird. What do most people use and why?
[15:15] <sipior> chrisgeorge: also, does easy_install have the same problem?
[15:16] <bazhang> urist_, try both see which you like best
[15:16] <gnuskool> I got ana external router and a server with 2 nics on a another subnet, i got no internete on the clients in the subnet and know its a routing issue, but how do i fix it...is it a port forward on my external router to the subnet gateway?
[15:17] <chrisgeorge> sipior: Unknown using easy_install because it's a build system, but the virtualenv was setup with --no-site-packages
[15:17] <sacarlson> gnuskool: do you have dhcp running on your nic #2
[15:17] <sipior> chrisgeorge: but if you launch the venv interpreter?
[15:17] <malm> is this the help forum
[15:18] <mneptok> malm: yes
[15:18] <bazhang> malm, yes it is
[15:18] <gnuskool> sacarlson: the internal interfae has dhcp and clients can get ip addresses from it on the subnet
[15:18] <urist_> bazhang, I may do that, but I figured I'd ask you guys first. See what to expect... Seems like Thunderbird is a bit more polished visually, but I'm wondering whether it is buddy or something. Much like my media player, I like the look of Banshee, but it was wayyyy too buggy for my liking. so now I'm using Rhytmbox, which I find bland looking but does the job flawlessly
[15:19] <mneptok> gnuskool: the server with 2 NICs is also a router? you have configured all of that correctly?
[15:19] <chrisgeorge> sipior: Yeah, even when activated or running /myenv/bin/pip
[15:19] <poweruzzen> ciao
[15:20] <mneptok> urist_: check out Claws also
[15:20] <urist_> mneptok, oh I had not heard of that one. but I will do that, is that what you use?
[15:20] <gnuskool> mneptok: yes, i think so - a lient can ping my external facing  nic, but not the ext. router
[15:20] <hylian> i was doing a dist-upgrade through the gui, and all of a sudden my window disappeared. i used htop, and believe the process is still running. is there any way i can get my window back? i would really like to know how my dist-upgrade is doing. (should have done this in the cli.)
[15:20] <mneptok> urist_: yes. the package is "claws-mail"
[15:20] <idefix_> how much do you value your life?
[15:21] <sipior> chrisgeorge: hmm. you might have a look in #python, some folks there might have an idea about debugging further.
[15:21] <mneptok> urist_: it's not a beautiful client, but it does just about everything, and does it without complaint.
[15:21] <chrisgeorge> sipior: thought so, thanks!
[15:21] <sacarlson> gnuskool: well I found this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing  as there might be better,  I use bind9 instead of what they use
[15:21] <sipior> chrisgeorge: good luck sorting it out.
[15:22] <OY1R> q: why is /var/log/syslog.1 already at 6.5Gb  since i cleared it with bleachbit yesterday ?
[15:22] <urist_> mneptok, yeah, since I moved to Ubuntu I have definitely learned to pick software more on the basis of functionality rather than aesthetics. It's nice to have a eye candy, but having the job done is more important
[15:22] <urist_> mneptok, is it possible to sync Claws between two machines?
[15:23] <sipior> OY1R: 6.5 gigabytes? that's impressive.
[15:23] <hylian> urist_, i totally agree. I switched from unity to xfce4 for that very reason. but ugly compared to gnome 3, unity or kde, but runs like a champ.
[15:23] <mneptok> urist_: no need if your mail provider supports IMAP and gives you ample storage.
[15:23] <mun> does anyone know why /proc/cpuinfo would show a wrong value for cpu MHz? it shows 2400 while it should be 2666.
[15:23] <OY1R> sipior, i bet it is. and that's since last reboot (yesterday) when i cleared just about everything with bleachbit
[15:23] <rumpe1> OY1R, imagine, the syslog-file is screaming... maybe it's a good idea to actually look into the file
[15:23] <gnuskool> mneptok: i read somewhere it has to do with NAT settings on my router, but not sure which precisely
[15:24] <mneptok> urist_: but if you have to, you can rsync the relevant stuff from $HOME/
[15:24] <gnuskool> mneptok: external router, that is
[15:24] <sipior> OY1R: if your logs are filling that quickly, best to see what they're saying :-)
[15:24] <urist_> hylian, I have not tried XFCE yet, but have heard great things. I am a bit of a sucker for Unity I must say. But use Gnome on my laptop because it seems to run better
[15:24] <hylian> mun, sorry, never had that problem. is this hardinfo you are using, or?
[15:24] <MonkeyDust> urist_  i use gnome classic, looks very much like gnome2
[15:24] <mneptok> gnuskool: you actually need 2 routers. the hardware one, and then routing setup on the server machine so it knows to pass requests between NICs.
[15:24] <mun> hylian, just less /proc/cpuinfo
[15:25] <hylian> urist_, i like unity too. the only thing i don't like, is the hiding bar gets in my way. if it could be teucked under like gnome 3's bar, then it would be perfect.
[15:25] <esquireo> hello people
[15:26] <urist_> MonkeyDust, that's the one I use on my laptop. my laptop is a piece of crap and it's the best one for that machine. On my desktop I use Unity. I have to say I like Unity even if most people seem to dislike it
[15:26] <ftw> hylian: how do you keep track of what programs you're running, in the absence of a taskbar?
[15:26] <mneptok> mun: CPU frequency scaling? *shrug*
[15:26] <hylian> ftw, uhh, i have a taskbar wit xfce4. it comes standard.???
[15:26] <sacarlson> gnuskool: I guess you need more info on dhcpd setup and this is also not the best I have seen http://www.basicconfig.com/linuxnetwork/configure_dhcp_server_ubuntu
[15:26] <OY1R> sipior, opening the log, i might take a while.
[15:26] <urist_> hylian, I agree, very often I bring the bar out by mistake. Especially while browsing
[15:26] <ftw> hylian: pardon me, I just saw the unity bit
[15:27] <mun> mneptok, it's not overclocked.
[15:27] <OY1R> sipior, syslog.1 is about 6.5gb and syslog os 5gb
[15:27] <mneptok> mun: i'm talking the other direction. as supported by OEMs to control thermal and battery stuffs.
[15:27] <bastidrazor> mun: i can confirm that cpuinfo will show current MHZ and report the scaled MHZ instead of what is capable.
[15:27] <mun> but it doesn't match what it shows in BIOs
[15:28] <MonkeyDust> OY1R  use the 3rd party application ubuntu-tweak, maybe it helps (it's not in the repos)
[15:28] <hylian> ftw, i see your point. but everytime i move the mouse to the left, the bar gets in my way, and then i have to wait till it goes away. very irratating.
[15:28] <urist_> mneptok, I may haveto to that. I'm looking up claws now
[15:28] <gnuskool> sacarlson: thanks for the link, but i thought having clients resolve ok on the subnet means dhcp is ok, i could be wrong if there is more to do
[15:28] <mun> mneptok, bastidrazor well cpuinfo has been showing the right value all along until i flashed the motherboard
[15:28] <bazhang> MonkeyDust, ubuntu-tweak-tool ?
[15:29] <bazhang> !find tweak
[15:29] <mneptok> mun: talk to your mobo OEM then
[15:29] <bazhang> MonkeyDust, you mean gnome-tweak-tool ?
[15:29] <mneptok> urist_: http://www.claws-mail.org/screenshots.php?section=general
[15:29] <hylian> is there a way to get a gui window back if it just up and dissapeared all on it's own? i am dist-upgrading with the gui upgrader, and poof, no window.
[15:29] <MonkeyDust> bazhang  no i mean ubuntu-tweak.com
[15:30] <OY1R> sipior, this is what's in the log > http://pastebin.com/7ZHREmYN
[15:30] <mbeierl> hylian, did anyone explain the multiple desktops yet?  It might be that you are switching and the window is still there
[15:30] <hylian> mneptok, i have messed with claws mail a while back, is claws and entire window manager or desktop environment? and if so is it based off of xfce, lxde or openbox?
[15:30] <mneptok> hylian: dist-upgrade, or getting a new release version?
[15:31] <mneptok> hylian: Claws uses GTK2
[15:31] <hylian> mbeierl, i am an old linux pro. yeah, no it is not on any of my 4 desktops, but good idea!
[15:31] <sipior> OY1R: looks like one of your "at" jobs isn't properly formed.
[15:32] <hylian> mneptok, so claws is a wm or de? i thought it was just claws mail, which looked a little too much like sylpheed's big brother for me.
[15:32] <sipior> OY1R: might look in /var/spool/cron/atjobs, see if any of the files are damaged.
[15:32] <mbeierl> hylian, sorry - mistook the question for one that was asked a while ago and someone hinted at that, but I never saw a follow up.
[15:32] <mneptok> hylian: it's an e-mail client. it is built using the GTK2 ttoolkit.
[15:32] <sipior> OY1R: better yet, turn off atd, and run it manually with the -s switch.
[15:33] <OY1R> what does atd -s do ?
[15:33] <sipior> OY1R: better yet, atd -d --f -s
[15:33] <hylian> mbeierl, no problem, i appreciate all the help i can get! :) i know it is still working, because i can see the process in htop. i should have done this in cli, then i wouldnt have this problem.
[15:33] <Nightweels> Isn't there graphical version of "sudo" in ubuntu something like "open as administrator". (Yes Im a little weird programmer, interested in graphical commands more than the terminal ones don't blame me people Its just I can't get rid of this obsession :p )
[15:33] <sipior> Nightweels: you probably mean "gksudo".
[15:33] <urist_> mneptok, thanks... it does look pretty clean
[15:33] <Nightweels> what ever just have all the permission
[15:33] <hylian> mneptok, ohh, i see. somehow i thought maybe it was a window manager named claws, and claws mail was part of the package, my bad.
[15:34] <hylian> Nightweels, yes, gksu. for instance, gksu synaptic would get you a sudo'ers access to synaptic,
[15:35] <mneptok> hylian: the Claws website has all the info you need or want on the history and such of the project.
[15:35] <hylian> mneptok, thanks!
[15:35] <OY1R> atd is hogging the cpu aswell
[15:35] <mneptok> hylian: go and see how your sensation of deja vu WRT Sylpheed is not in error. :)
[15:36] <sipior> OY1R: "sudo service atd stop"
[15:36] <OY1R> i just did that
[15:37] <sipior> OY1R: now, try "sudo atd -d -f" from a terminal. see what comes out.
[15:37] <OY1R> sipior, unknown optio
[15:37] <OY1R> sipior, unknown option
[15:38] <hylian> mneptok, have you ever had a window just up and dissappear for no reason at all? i was using update manager to do a dist-upgrade, and all of a sudden my window went poof. should have done this in cli, now i have no idea what is going on...
[15:38] <sipior> OY1R: actually, only the -d option should be needed, according to my man page.
[15:38] <Nightweels> hylian: I mean basically when modifying a protected file (by the system for example) graphically, I get error related to permission so I'm obliged through the terminal to modify it...
[15:38] <mun> hi
[15:38] <hylian> !hello : mun
[15:39] <mun> i've clocked my cpu to 3.4hz and cpuinfo shows 3.4ghz but after a while it goes to 2.4ghz. what could be causing this?
[15:39] <OY1R> sipior, about 100 lines of > File g0057201511f89 is in wrong format - aborting < a second
[15:39] <hylian> !hello | mun
[15:39] <mun> i haven't got cpuspeed installed
[15:39] <hylian> lol
[15:39] <Nightweels> obliged to get* sorry
[15:39] <sipior> OY1R: is there such a file in /var/spool/cron/atjobs?
[15:39] <bastidrazor> mun: cpufrequtil is the package and cpufreq-set cpufreq-info are two of the commands you may want to use
[15:40] <hylian> mun, some processors have the ability to idle themselves when nothing is going on, could that be the situation?
[15:40] <sodani> got a noob question. I created a file called hello.sh in my home directory. then when I did ./hello.sh, I got the message 'bash: ./hello.sh: Permission denied'. Can someone tell me why this is?
[15:40] <mun> bastidrazor, i haven't got cpufrequtil installed
[15:40] <mun> hylian, um. well, it drops to 2.4 only after a few minutes though
[15:40] <_zoom_> hi, when I connet my android tablet to pc i got unable to enumerate USB device on port x
[15:40] <sipior> sodani: you need to set the execute bit: "chmod u+x hello.sh"
[15:41] <mun> this has happened only after flashing my mobo.
[15:41] <hylian> sodani, it sounds like you don't own it. hmm, what happens if you type chmod a+x hello.sh in terminal?
[15:41] <mun> but a few minutes seems to be a bit too short
[15:41] <OY1R> sipior, yes there is
[15:41] <OY1R> but it's 0 bytes
[15:41] <sipior> OY1R: consider moving it out of that directory, and restart atd.
[15:41] <sodani> sipior: hylian: thanks. that worked. just needed to make it executable :-)
[15:42] <mun> i guess i should check my bios
[15:42] <mun> thanks though
[15:42] <hylian> mun, to be honest, i read the article, but i do not know any specifics. I just know some processors will clock down if not being used much, this might not even be your situation. i just know it's a possibility.
[15:43] <OY1R> i'll make a folder inside the /atjobs and  place it there.
[15:43] <sipior> OY1R: i'd move it out of that tree entirely.
[15:43] <msucan> how can i startx in safe mode?
[15:43] <compdoc> in the bios, if you enable Cool and Quiet, I think cpu is clocked down automatically
[15:43] <OY1R> ok
[15:44] <hylian> any way to return a window that just decided to disappear? i would like it back, it was running a distrobution upgrade.
[15:44] <Dj_FlyBy> This is so confusing. I have tried everything I can think of but cannot for the life of me get logged into mysql whether by term, webmin, phpmyadmin, etc.... I have tried changing the root password and still nothing. I am LOST!
[15:44] <sipior> hylian: does it show up in "xlsclients"?
[15:45] <hylian> sipior, yes it does. i also see it in htop.
[15:45] <sacarlson> Dj_FlyBy: is the mysql server on the localhost of the system you are trying to access?
[15:45] <sipior> hylian: what happened when it vanished?
[15:46] <sipior> hylian: can you alt-tab to it?
[15:46] <Dj_FlyBy> sacarlson: yes
[15:46] <agoodm> hi
[15:47] <agoodm> does annybody know how to backup the list of wireless networks in ubuntu 10.10?
[15:47] <hylian> sipior, nothing except for no window. it's not the first time update-notifier (or whatever it is) just disappeared without a trace (graphically speaking). the process is still running, so i am assuming it is still doing it's job. var is still locked, if i try to sudo apt-get dist-upgrade.
[15:47] <agoodm> including the passwords
[15:47] <OY1R> sipior, atd is running again
[15:47] <sipior> OY1R: hopefully without all the noise this time
[15:47] <sipior> hylian: and alt-tab?
[15:48] <sacarlson> Dj_FlyBy: if it's localhost,  then why can't you access http://localhost/phpmyadmin ?
[15:48] <hylian> sipior, alt-tab shows all my currently visible windows, i.e. chromium, xchat, terminator, etc.
[15:48] <OY1R> sipior, i dont know i cant run sudo atd -d
[15:48] <ShooterMG> I'm running 11.10, and by default, my monitors res/rr isn't suported. I discovered that all I have to do is install the latest NVIDIA drivers for my integrated chip, and it auto-configures everything just fine and let's me boot into X. The problem is, whenever I restart, the configuration seems to get wiped. Any way to make these NVIDIA settings "stick" forever?
[15:48] <Dj_FlyBy> sacarlson:  -->  ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
[15:49] <hylian> agoodm, i don't know which folder it is, but if you back up the entire /home/user/ directory, i know that did the trick for me. this atleast gives you a direction to go. sorry i couldnt be more specific.
[15:49] <sacarlson> Dj_FlyBy: oh you lost the root password or you forgot the user password pair?
[15:49] <agoodm> so the usernames/passwords are in /home/username?  if thats the case is the passwords/secrets in clear text?
[15:50] <agoodm> wondering if I can grep
[15:50] <hylian> Dj_FlyBy, forgive me if I am way off, because an expert i am not, but is it possible the port is being blocked?
[15:50] <Dj_FlyBy> sacarlson: nope.... I have NEVER been able to log into mysql in any way at all.... tried changing the root password from Ubuntu's default ways and still nothing
[15:50] <sipior> hylian: you might try installing wmctrl. you should be able to use that to identify and raise the window. might not work with unity, but surely worth a try.
[15:50] <Dj_FlyBy> hylian: I'm on the machine that mysql is running on
[15:50] <zykotick9> agoodm: the network passwords are stored in the keyring - they aren't grepable clear text
[15:51] <sacarlson> Dj_FlyBy: but the login screen of phpmyadmin comes up?
[15:51] <bluefrog> agoodm, have a look at $HOME/.gconf/system/networking/
[15:51] <Pumpkin-> Dj_FlyBy: hang on a second !, have you used "passwd" to set a system root password, and are then trying to login to mysql using that root password ?
[15:51] <agoodm> hmm, so if I port the keyring across my networks will also move?
[15:51] <Dj_FlyBy> sacarlson: nope. I can't even get through the phpmyadmin install. but via webmin it comes up and I get the same error there and in terminal I get the same error
[15:51] <zykotick9> agoodm: ? not sure, never tried to move that info.  good luck.
[15:51] <hylian> sipior, thanks. I would if i could. but the goofy part about this is that this machine is currently doing a dist-upgrade, and i have had serious problems in the past disrupting the install, so i really am trying not to go that route.
[15:51] <MonkeyDust> agoodm  as of next month, 10.10 will be End Of Life, better upgrade instead of struggling with an old system
[15:51] <agoodm> i dont wanna loose the list because every customers wireless networks ive been to in the last 28 months are in there =(
[15:52] <Dj_FlyBy> Pumpkin-: yes....
[15:52] <sipior> hylian: i see. well, fair enough.
[15:52] <agoodm> MonkeyDust, im buying a new laptop
[15:52] <Dj_FlyBy> this is a fresh install of Ubuntu (less than 2 days old)
[15:52] <zykotick9> !webmin > Dj_FlyBy
[15:52] <Dj_FlyBy> Pumpkin-: i only tried changing the root passwd AFTER not being able to access the server from root before
[15:53] <Pumpkin-> Dj_FlyBy: the system root password and the mysql root password are totally different things. You might want to read http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/resetting-permissions.html to see how to reset the mysql root password.
[15:53] <Nightweels> Is the default virtual keyboard in the logon screen of ubuntu part of the Onboard package?
[15:53] <sacarlson> Dj_FlyBy: sound like with whatever method of install or something you have corrupted the lamp set,  just remove --purge the set and start from some know state
[15:53] <mneptok> Dj_FlyBy: setting a system root password is not a good idea.
[15:53] <Dj_FlyBy> sacarlson: not sure what "lamp" is ....
[15:54] <mneptok> Dj_FlyBy: Pumpkin- is correct above.
[15:54] <sacarlson> !lamp Dj_FlyBy:
[15:54] <sacarlson> !lamp
[15:54] <Dj_FlyBy> mneptok: I "would" like to put it back to the way it was prior to me changing it. Is this possible>?
[15:54] <mneptok> Dj_FlyBy: you set a system-wide Ubuntu root password. the MySQL root password is something else entirely.
[15:54] <xissburg> I followed this http://evgeny-goldin.com/blog/3-ways-install-git-linux-ubuntu/ to install Git 1.7.9.5 in Ubuntu 10.04 LTS, step two (from source). But git --version still prints 1.7.0.4. Why? Isn't that frustrating?
[15:55] <mneptok> Dj_FlyBy: sudo passwd -dl root
[15:55] <sacarlson> Dj_FlyBy: what mneptok: says is true root system and mysql root are not the same
[15:55] <Dj_FlyBy> mneptok: so that will put it back to the default way Ubuntu runs the root passwd?
[15:55] <Pumpkin-> and you most likely also want to do something like "sudo passwd -l root" to lock the password on the root account and go back to using sudo as your normal user to get root. Setting a "real" root password isn't the recommended way of doing things with Ubuntu (or in my opinon a sensible way of doing things on any system)
[15:56] <mneptok> Dj_FlyBy: quite right.
[15:56] <Pumpkin-> I think me and mneptok are saying the same things :)
[15:56] <Dj_FlyBy> mneptok: thanks for that...
[15:56] <Dj_FlyBy> Pumpkin-: I will check that link you gave me for resetting the mysql root passwd... thanks
[15:56] <mneptok> Dj_FlyBy: go do that, and then look at MySQL root access
[15:57] <xissburg> wow...which git prints /usr/local/bin/git. And /usr/local/bin/git --version prints 1.7.9.5. But git --version prints 1.7.0.4. That is WRONG!
[15:57] <Dj_FlyBy> mneptok: already done that part
[15:58] <zykotick9> Dj_FlyBy: i'd highly recommend you stop using webmin, it's a terrible idea on ubuntu
[15:58] <imbezol> xissburg: and what does alias git print?
[15:58] <xissburg> imbezol: -bash: alias: git: not found
[15:58] <hylian> sipior, thank you for the excellent info. I have added that program to my mass install script for when i first install my fave software. thanks again!
[15:59] <sacarlson> Dj_FlyBy: webmin?  oh that's might be what started his problems
[15:59] <Dj_FlyBy> zykotick9: well I've never had any issues using it before, but on this machine I only installed it to try and access mysql after the other options failed. This machine is only a media server
[15:59] <sacarlson> !webmin
[16:00] <Dj_FlyBy> webmin is not the source of the problem.... I only installed it after the other options failed
[16:00] <xissburg> imbezol: git 1.7.0.4 is at /usr/bin/git
[16:00] <sacarlson> Dj_FlyBy: adding problems on top of other problems just makes it harder to correct
[16:01] <tkruise> everytime I boot, Ubuntu One tries to continue uploading my files, and I have to prompt it, and click on disconnect, how do I remove it from starting up with the system?
[16:01] <xissburg> imbezol: uh reopened the terminal and now it works.... -______--
[16:02] <OY1R> sipior, still screaming. there are about 10 only 2 have something im tnem the rest are 0 bytes, so i just move the empty ones right ?
[16:02] <netbus> a thousand internets to the person who can tell me what distro of linux the following screenshot is from!
[16:02] <netbus> its a KDE control panel screen shot. i need to know what the distro is!
[16:02] <netbus> its like a game, so fun!
[16:03] <mneptok> netbus: but it's not a support question, so #ubuntu-offtopic.
[16:03] <netbus> that's what i meant.
[16:03] <xissburg> if I su, how can I un-su?
[16:03] <Dj_FlyBy> sacarlson: one can only be "adding" problems if they are aware that something is a problem... I never actually knew that Ubuntu didn't support Webmin. Which sucks. webmin is a good tool as it provides access to everything
[16:03] <MonkeyDust> xissburg  type exit
[16:03] <Dr_willis> xissburg,  'exit'
[16:04] <Dr_willis> debian also does not support webmin any more
[16:04] <xissburg> ok thanks
[16:04] <Dr_willis> and webmin has a history of 'problems'
[16:04] <Dr_willis> !info ebox
[16:04] <mneptok> Dj_FlyBy: things such as Webmin then introduce any security flaws they have to the entire system, as it has system-wide access.
[16:04] <Dj_FlyBy> in all my time of using webmin I've never once had a problem and I've used it on numerous machines
[16:04] <Laurenceb> hi
[16:05] <Laurenceb> im trying to edit a pdf in evince
[16:05] <mneptok> !wfm | Dj_FlyBy
[16:05] <xissburg> In Ubuntu, where should I usually store my files like personal documents and project?
[16:05] <Laurenceb> but each time i save it goes back to the unchanged version
[16:05] <xissburg> what directory I mean.
[16:05] <zykotick9> xissburg: ~
[16:05] <xissburg> hm
[16:06] <sacarlson> Dj_FlyBy: I agree webmin would be a good tool if it was supported but at this time it's not so if you fix it and update it then we will all be happy
[16:06] <mbeierl> xissburg, ~/Documents
[16:06] <MonkeyDust> xissburg  in /home/[your user]
[16:06] <rocuronium> xissburg: in your home directory
[16:06] <xissburg> yes
[16:07] <detch1> when i open any page i see blank page    using lampp now
[16:07] <detch1> it was working what happened
[16:07] <kentra> /j mint
[16:08] <zykotick9> !mint > kentra
[16:08] <OY1R> sipior, thanks, i moved the involved files and now atd is not screaming.
[16:11] <Nightweels> how to take a screen shot of the logon screen?
[16:11] <detch1> hi every body why i see blank page when i open project     using lampp
[16:12] <Nightweels> precisely the afterstandby password screen?
[16:12] <MonkeyDust> detch1  start from the beginnen, what are you doing and have you done before you came here
[16:12] <Nightweels> the printscreen button doesn't word...
[16:12] <Nightweels> work* sorry
[16:13] <detch1> i already installed lampp and it was working but now when i open any project i see blank page
[16:15] <MonkeyDust> detch1  what has changed before it stopped working
[16:15] <harshali> quit
[16:15] <detch1> nothing
[16:15] <detch1> i  didn't change any thing
[16:16] <Amoug> Is it ok to set all files in /var/log to chmod 600 ?
[16:17] <MonkeyDust> detch1  we need to know *something* about what went wrong
[16:17] <detch1> it was working suddenly when i open file i face blank page
[16:18] <MonkeyDust> !details| detch1
[16:18] <axl_> in a bash script, any idea how i write a 'keystroke' command for the key '%' ?
[16:19] <tkruise> everytime I boot, Ubuntu One tries to continue uploading my files, and I have to prompt it, and click on disconnect, how do I remove it from starting up with the system?
[16:19] <axl_> is it  -   keystroke "5" using {shift down}
[16:19] <detch1> i am using ubuntu 11.10 i was working by xampp and i faced a blank page when i enter here you said to me remove xampp and use lampp
[16:19] <axl_> ?
[16:20] <detch1> when i used lampp it's wroked and suddenly not working
[16:21] <detch1> i already haven't any details because i didn't change any thing
[16:23] <spacemandan> herpa derp
[16:25] <zykotick9> axl_: "if" you don't get an answer here, ask in #bash (bet they'll know)
[16:25] <axl_> awesome
[16:25] <axl_> thanks
[16:25] <Luke> I have a problem where my monospaced fonts don't look correctly spaced between characters. what package would I report this bug under?
[16:26] <zykotick9> Luke: is it the font or your terminal-emulator?  test in xterm - same issue?
[16:27] <roytrix> hi guys ;)
[16:28] <Luke> zykotick9: it uses totally different font rendering in xterm. this is with eclipse and gnome-terminal that i'm having the problem
[16:29] <zykotick9> Luke: so is it eclipse or gnome-terminal?  you need to narrow the issue down to just one package, and finally just one version - then report a bug against that package.
[16:29] <lglcrtnd> hello
[16:29] <Luke> zykotick9: both
[16:30] <lglcrtnd> I need some help, I would like to install slackware via cd, if I download the iso image from website it seems to be many gigabyte of memory. Is that iso so big for slackware?
[16:30] <zykotick9> Luke: ? then choose one (i doubt it's really "both", more digging is required)  best of luck.  see "/msg ubottu bug" for reporting info (you need a launchpad account i believe)
[16:31] <Luke> zykotick9: thanks - i'll go with gnome-term because there's less involved (no java)
[16:31] <compdoc> lglcrtnd, many distros use DVDs now
[16:31] <compdoc> *require
[16:32] <lglcrtnd> compdoc, ty but I many distro are less big
[16:32] <lglcrtnd> compdoc is it normal that slackware are many giga of iso files?
[16:32] <|Slacker|> lglcrtnd, yes it is
[16:32] <zykotick9> lglcrtnd: slackware is offtopic here
[16:33] <Luke> zykotick9: actually I found that the Ubuntu Mono fonts look incorrectly spaced. it affects the font
[16:33] <lglcrtnd> ok sorry fr he offtopic
[16:33] <compdoc> lglcrtnd, this isnt a slackware support channel, and Ive never tried it. But most distros also come in a network install version, and thats very small
[16:33] <Luke> zykotick9: do you know what package that's in?
[16:33] <zykotick9> Luke: then report against the font package
[16:33] <zykotick9> Luke: no idea
[16:33] <Luke> zykotick9: yeah I don't know the name of it
[16:34] <zykotick9> Luke: i can't really search (i'm not on ubuntu)
[16:34] <Luke> k
[16:34] <Luke> zykotick9: i can actually - i found the fonts
[16:36] <techfreak> clear
[16:36] <sheenzz> well finally i upgrade my os.
[16:38] <zykotick9> Luke: (unrelated) i use terminus for a monospace font, took a little getting used to
[16:43] <Amaury> Hi everyone, what's the IRC channel for linuxmao ?
[16:43] <compdoc> Amaury, no idea what that is
[16:43] <compdoc> sounds communist
[16:44] <Amaury> Aha, Music Assisted by Computer in French
[16:44] <zykotick9> !alis | Amaury
[16:45] <Amaury> @ubottu & @compdoc : Thanks ! Good evening !
[16:50] <fishcooker> i've done grub-install on root_fs
[16:50] <fishcooker> my box won't boot up
[16:51] <fishcooker> the screen always show fsck from util-linux-ng
[16:51] <fishcooker> there is no terminal
[16:54] <epifanio> Hi all
[16:54] <KNUBBIG> Hi :) i got a server to which I connect via ssh and I need a tool to visualize network traffic (HTML output would be great). Any suggestions? Thanks
[16:55] <techfreak> Hi hallo there
[16:55] <agoodm> KNUBBIG, iftop iptraf traffshow to name a few
[16:55] <agoodm> all cli tools mind you
[16:55] <agoodm> KNUBBIG, ntop also
[16:55] <KNUBBIG> agoodm: thanks. Does any of these show which files the traffic is based on?
[16:56] <phy1729> Is it possible to use pam to check password requirements on login not on password change?
[16:56] <epifanio> i'm tring to do :  apt-get update / apt-get uograde  on a ubuntu server via ssh .. unlucky the upgrade freeze at this step :  http://paste.debian.net/161249/
[16:56] <agoodm> KNUBBIG, no they show network utilisation in varying ways
[16:56] <KNUBBIG> agoodm: okay, thanks
[16:56] <epifanio> i tried to log-in from an other shell with ssh , running 'top' i can see apt-get is still running
[16:56] <agoodm> KNUBBIG, for example if I run iftop on my server atm it tells me 40mbit of throughput
[16:57] <epifanio> but i don't know .... it is in this state from 10 minutes now
[16:57] <agoodm> epifanio, in top whats the erm wait %age?
[16:57] <epifanio> i think something is going wrong .. :(
[16:57] <epifanio> looking nnow
[16:58] <KNUBBIG> agoodm: thanks, somehow all tools tell me I have an output of 16 MB/s but I don't know what causes that
[16:58] <agoodm> use iptraf and look at i think its detailed / by tcp/udp port
[16:59] <epifanio> agoodm: http://paste.debian.net/161250/
[16:59] <KNUBBIG> agoodm: thanks
[16:59] <agoodm> epifanio, the cpu usage %ages are above that...
[17:00] <epifanio> agoodm:  http://paste.debian.net/161251/
[17:00] <agoodm> looks like the system is pretty idle to me :-/
[17:01] <agoodm> %wa indicates long much time the cpu spends waiting for the storage device... and its low so storage device isnt being thrashed like I thought it might be
[17:02] <epifanio> if i stop it with ctrl+c  .. then aapt-get tell me to run dpkg to reconfigure because of broken packages
[17:02] <epifanio> i tried it alread
[17:02] <epifanio> both apt-get and aptitude fails .. and give me a frozen shell
[17:03] <bleh123> hey. I really love gnome-do and have been using it for years, but I'm having problems with it crashing and locking up, and frankly I'd prefer a better sstem for plugins
[17:04] <bleh123> I'm aware of synapse and kupfer, does anyone have any other gnome-do alternatives they can recommend
[17:04] <epifanio> agodm this is on ubuntu-server  lucid
[17:04] <bleh123> or even suggest?
[17:04] <bleh123> I'd be grateful for suggestions :)
[17:04] <Dj_FlyBy> Pumpkin-: excellent link; thanks much
[17:06] <epifanio> ctrl+c does nothing .. i had to use kill numprocess
[17:06] <epifanio> should apt-get --reinstall install cron ... help ?
[17:06] <OerHeks> bleh123, there is a PPA for Gnome-do >> https://launchpad.net/~do-testers/+archive/ppa , but be carefull with ppa's.
[17:07] <Merathyadf> hi i have problems installing ubuntu. i am trying to install it alongside windows but everytime an error is displayed "couldnt install bootloader" i am given with different options to where install the bootloader manually but none seem to be working. help
[17:14] <epifanio> i have this : http://paste.debian.net/161253/
[17:14] <epifanio> mybe using dpkg -i cron.deb ?
[17:14] <epifanio> where can i find cron.deb for lucid ?
[17:15] <epifanio> i'm here http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/
[17:16] <computeghost> i just installed u and staebuntu on a old toshbar it about 10 years old every time i try and restart the screen come up with colors but when i shut it down sart it back up it work good
[17:18] <epifanio> ok found it http://mirror.pnl.gov/ubuntu//pool/main/c/cron/cron_3.0pl1-106ubuntu5_amd64.deb now tryng to run dpkg -1 on it ... figer crossed :(
[17:19] <epifanio> what is the process cron.prerm   that i ca see in top ?
[17:20] <eutheria> the latest kernel update seems to have slowed my cpu to a crawling 800mhz, it doesn't seem to go up with load either
[17:20] <jrib> epifanio: read /var/lib/dpkg/info/cron.prerm
[17:21] <epifanio> jrib: http://paste.debian.net/161257/
[17:22] <epifanio> while dpkg -i cron.deb , does the same as apt-get ..
[17:22] <epifanio> frozen
[17:22] <jrib> epifanio: what ubuntu version is this?
[17:22] <computeghost> i put ubuntu on a old computer and when i try to restart it come up color screen can you tell me why
[17:22] <epifanio> jrib lucid
[17:22] <PatrickC> computeghost, what kind of a "color screen"?
[17:22] <epifanio> ubuntu server
[17:23] <jrib> epifanio: is cron running?
[17:23] <epifanio> jrib: http://paste.debian.net/161258/
[17:23] <jrib> epifanio: I mean is the cron daemon actually running?
[17:24] <epifanio> i think no .. it is not listed in top
[17:24] <epifanio> in top i have :   cron.postinst now
[17:24] <jrib> epifanio: use « ps -ef | grep cron »
[17:24] <computeghost> patrick like black gray difent colors the computer is ten yaers old
[17:25] <PatrickC> are you sure the monitor is working?
[17:25] <epifanio> jrib:  http://paste.debian.net/161259/
[17:25] <jrib> epifanio: I don't see how .postinst could not be finished...
[17:26] <jrib> epifanio: what does your /bin/sh point to?  Have you done anything to it?
[17:26] <epifanio> i added in the user cron a job to start at each reboot it is a simple instruction
[17:27] <epifanio> i used :  crontab -e
[17:27] <syn-ack> what's the format of the script, epifanio?
[17:27] <jrib> epifanio: get rid of that
[17:27] <syn-ack> to start it?
[17:27] <syn-ack> that's to edit, that's where you're messing up. :P
[17:27] <fornix> will gnome 3.0 be out in ubuntu soon?
[17:27] <syn-ack> It's out right now, fornix
[17:27] <syn-ack> Running it as we speak.
[17:28] <syn-ack> fornix, install gnome shell.
[17:28] <fornix> syn-ack, oh really? which version? I use 11.10 but am still on gnome 2.0
[17:28] <syn-ack> I'm using it on 11.10
[17:28] <fornix> gnome shell? will it replace existing gnome 2.0?
[17:28] <syn-ack> yes, you will have an option in LightDM after it's installed
[17:28] <agoodm> gnome shell on 12.04 at least looks and works like gnome 2 did for me
[17:29] <auronandace> fornix: gnome2 isn't available in the repos for 11.10
[17:29] <agoodm> I took to it like a duck to water
[17:29] <syn-ack> fornix, Just click on the cog and select "gnome"
[17:29] <fornix> syn-ack, ok. thx. will have a look.
[17:29] <epifanio> i coomented the line in crontab -e , now it is like :http://paste.debian.net/161263/
[17:30] <eutheria> does apt leave around a history of what was installed/uninstalled?
[17:30] <syn-ack> eutheria, yes and no
[17:31] <eutheria> syn-ack, no?
[17:31] <syn-ack> eutheria, nothing really for what was uninstalled per se... but you can see what's currently installed.
[17:32] <eutheria> syn-ack, oh shame i think something got uninstalled i needed
[17:32] <jrib> eutheria: check /var/log/dpkg.log
[17:33] <marwen> hi
[17:33] <marwen> I taped this commend   "marwen@marwen-laptop:~/Téléchargements$ sudo cp in.cypal.studio.for.gwt-2.alpha. /usr/lib/eclipse/dropings/Cypal/plugins"                                       I get  this error message     cp: omitting directory `in.cypal.studio.for.gwt-2.alpha.'
[17:33] <epifanio> ok .. rebooting fixed all
[17:34] <agoodm> marwen, cp -r
[17:34] <marwen> help ... help .... help
[17:34] <agoodm> marwen, patience!
[17:34] <epifanio> now i've my script not running at reboot .. i'll uncomment it and at any upgrade i have to remember to comment it .. is this the good way to follow ?
[17:34] <dell> good afternoon
[17:34] <marwen> ok
[17:34] <computeghost> why do my screen turn colors when i restart  it it a ten year old computer
[17:35] <agoodm> marwen, I also answered your question, use cp -r if there are folders
[17:35] <eutheria> thanks jrib
[17:35] <marwen> ok I will try
[17:36] <agoodm> time to reinstall my laptop :-O
[17:36] <jrib> epifanio: what does your script do?  Does it actually run ok at reboot?
[17:36] <agoodm> I think thislaptop was oridinally installed with 9.10 when it first came out and has been dist upgraded a few times since
[17:36] <epifanio> grr again .. that's a nightmare .. the script is still commented but aptitude froze on cron
[17:37] <SandJ> Hi!  To install my NVIDIA driver, the script says I have to run it when X is not running: "please exit X before installing".  In Ubuntu 10.04, how do I log in to run this script without X running?
[17:38] <agoodm> SandJ, use the nvidia driver from the ubuntu repository
[17:39] <SandJ> There is no nvidia driver for 10.04 - I have seen it for 11.10, but not this version.  At least there is nothing obvious in the Ubuntu Software Centre for 'nvidia'.
[17:40] <ting63385> testing one two
[17:40] <ting63385> hello world
[17:40] <Angtagapagligt> hello
[17:40] <auronandace> !test | ting63385
[17:40] <agoodm> SandJ, doyou have the restricted and canonicalpartners repos enabled?
[17:41] <agoodm> also did you look in the system settings -> additional drivers thing?
[17:43] <SandJ> I have restricted (I assume you mean multiverse) and canonical enabled.  I have done System / Admin / Hardware drivers and  that says "No proprietary drivers are in use" and none are offered.
[17:51] <cousteau> when will the next LTS be?  still 2014, or with the new Longer Term Support model it'll be delayed?
[17:53] <dell> cousteau: 12.04 will be a lts
[17:54] <cousteau> dell, yeah, but after that?
[17:54] <xangua> dell: he means future releases
[17:54] <xangua> after it
[17:54] <cousteau> 14.04?  16.04?
[17:57] <dell> lts's are released every two years and are supported for 5
[17:57] <dell> cousteau: ^^
[17:57] <SandJ> @agoodm - I found a way: in a terminal session do 'sudo services gdm stop', then Ctrl-Alt-F1 so I can log in and run the shell script.
[17:58] <SandJ> Thank you for your help.
[17:59] <skulltip> where is ubuntu developer channel.. i have a bug
[17:59] <gr33n7007h> clear
[17:59] <dell> gr33n7007h: wrong terminal...lol
[18:00] <gr33n7007h> oops i know yeah lol
[18:00] <ikonia> skulltip: you don't log bugs in an irc channel
[18:00] <ikonia> skulltip: you log the bug on launchpad.net
[18:00] <_Marcus> !bug
[18:00] <_Marcus> skulltip: See above
[18:01] <ewerton> algum brasileiro?
[18:01] <hilarie> so... hi
[18:01] <tab> hi
[18:01] <skulltip> no time and i'll forget.. oh well
[18:01] <Ben000> hi everyone
[18:01] <mbeierl> mus't be important then :)
[18:01] <ewerton> Por favor, algum brasileiro?
[18:02] <skulltip> someone try this.. from a terminal in unity, go to an open arena folder and launch manually..     ./openarena.i386
[18:02] <ikonia> skulltip: no time to log a bug - but you expect someone from the development team to just make a change to the code base based on a irc discussion
[18:02] <skulltip> have fun rebooting
[18:02] <ikonia> skulltip: how is that an ubuntu isssue ?
[18:02] <skulltip> why i'm back in kde
[18:02] <hilarie> I had a desktop running a headless server from a usb drive, I bought a hard drive on the internet (the grey ribbon kind) and made a usb install thumb drive, I've tried playing around a bunch with the bios, but it keeps dropping into grub rescue, any ideas?
[18:02] <ikonia> skulltip: openarena is is not an ubuntu built/maintained application
[18:02] <skulltip> maybe driver? who knows
[18:02] <ikonia> skulltip: what video card do you have ?
[18:02] <skulltip> gts450
[18:02] <computeghost> i just installed u and staebuntu on a old toshbar it about 10 years old every time i try and restart the screen come up with colors but when i shut it down sart it back up it work good
[18:02] <tab> I tried to create a raid6 from 4 3tb drives but I got an error message : Error: partition length of 5860528002 sectors exceeds the msdos-partition-table-imposed maximum of 4294967295 ped_disk_add_partition() failed
[18:03] <ikonia> skulltip: ok, so the nvidia drivers are closed source and not maintained by ubuntu, you'd need to speak to nvidia developers and log a bug to nvidia
[18:03] <_Marcus> !br | ewerton
[18:04] <xaqrox> I'm having a serious problem with Firefox, almost any time I ask it to do anything, click a form button, try to type something in a form field, switch tabs, it slows way down and the window dims. How can I troubleshoot this?
[18:05] <xaqrox> Ubuntu 11.10, firefox 11.0 (just updated today i think)
[18:05] <dell> xaqrox: reinstall it see if it helps
[18:05] <ikonia> xaqrox: firefox 11 is not released
[18:05] <kbrosnan> xaqrox: if you have not restarted Firefox since the update do so
[18:05] <kbrosnan> ikonia: sure it is
[18:05] <ikonia> oh wait it is, my apologies
[18:05] <ikonia> !info firefox
[18:06] <xaqrox> I restarted the whole machine.
[18:06] <ikonia> !info firefox 11.10
[18:06] <mondaytown> can somebody check package dovecot whats wrong with it wont start
[18:06] <ikonia> !info firefox natty
[18:06] <kbrosnan> xaqrox: renaming your .mozilla folder after closing Firefox then restarting will create a clean profile
[18:06] <ikonia> mondaytown: dovecot will start
[18:06] <xaqrox> Won't I lose a bunch of data?
[18:07] <mondaytown> r u sure?
[18:07] <ikonia> mondaytown: used it without issue for a long time
[18:08] <lcc> I know how to do ufw rulesets, what is the advantage of doing actual iptables rulesets over just using ufw?
[18:08] <mondaytown> when was the last time u used it?
[18:09] <mernilio> Hi all!
[18:10] <kbrosnan> xaqrox: if you rename it you can just rename it back
[18:10] <kbrosnan> note i did not say delete
[18:11] <mernilio> sorry to say but my dad is going for a leg amputation. :-(
[18:11] <xaqrox> kbrosnan: and that'll clear out some caches or something, hopefully making firefox a bit more peppy?
[18:11] <mernilio> I cant say how sorry i am!
[18:11] <kbrosnan> xaqrox: it will completely reset Firefox to its default
[18:12] <mernilio> pipegeek: go fuck a duck!
[18:12] <mernilio> ;-)
[18:12] <pipegeek> mernilio: back atcha buddy
[18:12] <mernilio> :-)
[18:14] <patrunjel> Hi, my terminal went (i don't really know since when) really, really ugly, that it, it changed the fonts, the size of the characters, all that. Can you please help me restore the default? (only tty went bad, the one that you invoke through xwindows is ok)
[18:18] <george> Hello. I'm running Kubuntu 11.10 and I'm trying to share wired internet by creating an ad hoc wi-fi net. I've already read lots of threads at both ubuntu and kubuntu forums, but can't find a way to get it working. The main issues are: 1)when I set eth0 to share connection, my net stops working, and 2) even after creating an ad hoc network, I can't connect to it, others computers can't see it and it has no sinal strenght (it's not that
[18:18] <george>  the signal is weak, it has no signal at all). Back to2010, on this same machine and with Ubuntu 10.04 it was easy and pretty straight forward, just a few clicks and done...
[18:18] <george> Please help
[18:20] <xaqrox> kbrosnan: ok, i'm taking your word for it, I'll let you know how it goes...
[18:22] <dsenator> H9ow do I add the spin button to libreoffice calc? anyone
[18:22] <dsenator> spin button?
[18:22] <dsenator> how do i add it in calc
[18:22] <dsenator> ??
[18:23] <xaqrox> kbrosnan: so... rename .mozilla, restart FF... now i can close FF, mv .mozilla back, and start again? won't that just restore the same problems?
[18:23] <cousteau> dsenator, maybe you want to ask in #libreoffice
[18:23] <kbrosnan> xaqrox: no close firefox, rename .mozilla
[18:23] <cousteau> although I'm pretty positive it's somewhere on the Drawing toolbar or something like that
[18:23] <xaqrox> kbrosnan: yes, i did close it before the mv
[18:24] <prashant_123456> how to use ubuntu concurrently with multiple users with terminals ??
[18:24] <cousteau> dsenator, nah, it was in "Form control" or something like that
[18:24] <patrunjel> Hi, my terminal went (i don't really know since when) really, really ugly, that it, it changed the fonts, the size of the characters, all that. Can you please help me restore the default? (only tty went bad, the one that you invoke through xwindows is ok)
[18:25] <cousteau> prashant_123456, what do you mean "how to use"?
[18:25] <cousteau> each one connects to a terminal, and that's all
[18:25] <cousteau> remote access?
[18:25] <prashant_123456> cousteau, i mean what will we need to login concurrently in linux i.e hardware and software
[18:26] <zelo> im looking for name of software which allows to run xsession in window. I used it some time ago and cant remember the name of it. Maybe someone will know ?
[18:26] <jrib> zelo: xnest
[18:26] <cousteau> (by the way, I looked it up...  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS seems to suggest LTS will still be released each 2 years; only, they'll last more)
[18:26] <zelo> jrib thanks!
[18:26] <prashant_123456> cousteau, not like remotely i mean in the same wired network
[18:26] <cousteau> prashant_123456, well...  a computer, linux...
[18:26] <prashant_123456> cousteau, yep
[18:26] <cousteau> prashant_123456, but on a network?  that's still "remotely" for me
[18:27] <belgianguy> anyone know of any software communities that work with image properties (eg sorting by lightness)
[18:27] <belgianguy> I know of OpenCV
[18:27] <prashant_123456> cousteau, ok i see
[18:27] <cousteau> well, you probably want to install openssh-server
[18:27] <cousteau> (and maybe enable sshd for -X connections; that's a pretty nice feature)
[18:28] <prashant_123456> cousteau, actually i have one desktop with all kb + mouse etc and have an extra set of monitor kb + mouse and need to access the same desktop with another monitor i.e second monitor with another terminal
[18:28] <cousteau> oh, 2 monitors, 2 kbs, 2 mice?
[18:29] <mody> hi guys
[18:29] <prashant_123456> cousteau, yep
[18:29] <mody> I had windows 7 & ubuntu latest sde by side,  have just done rcovery for windows and now I get "no such partition grub resque"
[18:29] <cousteau> well, you normally only run 1 graphic server at once, I don't think you can put 1 server with 1 user per screen
[18:29] <prashant_123456> cousteau, yep and only one desktop
[18:30] <tensorpudding> mody, in likelihood the windows recovery tool removed grub
[18:30] <prashant_123456> cousteau, no need to use gui terminal is ok with me for another user
[18:30] <tensorpudding> mody, can you boot windows at all
[18:30] <mody> tensorpudding: i cant boot anything now but i have a usb drive with uuntu that i can boot with
[18:30] <cousteau> although...  if you're ok with having 2 users on the same desktop (sort of like "roommates"), MPX allows you to have separate pointers controlling separate windows
[18:31] <cousteau> prashant_123456, no idea how to do it using terminals...  maybe screen?
[18:31] <tensorpudding> mody, windows recovery does not recognize grub and will often do crummy things if you use it in a dual-boot scenario with ubuntu
[18:32] <prashant_123456> cousteau, need to use concurrently
[18:32] <cousteau> prashant_123456, why's all this, by the way?  just for minimizing the number of computers and saving having to buy an extra one, or because of programs that would only be installed in 1 computer but 2 users might want to use at the same time?
[18:32] <mody> tensorpudding: what i can do now? i have all my stuff on ubuntu and need access to it:) what do you can is a good way to have back the grub?
[18:32] <ALTAS> what is a good browser for mythbuntu
[18:32] <cousteau> the latter would be just too easy to do using ssh
[18:32] <belgianguy> mody: boot from LiveUSB and back up your stuff
[18:33] <prashant_123456> cousteau, need to save cost of another computer
[18:33] <Adamantus> I've used Ubuntu before but not Mint. Will .deb files intended for Ubuntu work on Mint?
[18:33] <Adamantus> I would ask this in linuxmint chat but they are not responding
[18:34] <belgianguy> belgianguy: after the backup, you can try fixing the boot process (if it still has configuration files lingering around)
[18:34] <dsenator> cousteau, pls explain what yu mean
[18:34] <mody> belgianguy: you mean reinstall ubuntu?
[18:34] <cousteau> Adamantus, they probably do unless they have tricky dependencies
[18:34] <Adamantus> cousteau: Thanks.
[18:34] <Dulak> Adamantus: maybe, but it's a bad idea and will probably give you dependency nightmares.  You're better off finding a ppa, or cutting your own deb from the source deb
[18:34] <cousteau> dsenator, there's a toolbar called "Form contols" or something like that
[18:35] <dsenator> cousteau, how do move into the form control chat???
[18:35] <belgianguy> you'll probably have to look in etc/fstab and use ls -al /dev/disk/by-uuid/*
[18:35] <belgianguy> but still, it could also be FUBAR
[18:36] <cousteau> View > Toolbars > Form control > Spin button
[18:36] <cousteau> dsenator, no idea, never used them
[18:36] <malkauns> wtf, the new flash update makes everyone look blue!!!
[18:36] <mody> I had windows 7 & ubuntu latest sde by side,  have just done rcovery for windows and now I get "no such partition grub resque"
[18:36] <tensorpudding_> mody, i got disconnected, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows is probably what you want
[18:36] <tdn> I have installed Ubuntu on a media-pc. I would like to have a user automatically log in at startup and then start XBMC. How to do that in Ubuntu?
[18:36] <cousteau> Adamantus, and of course, there's always the possibility of compiling stuff yourself
[18:37] <Nuiok> Whats backtrck irc?
[18:37] <Nuiok> backtrack*
[18:38] <Nuiok> whats backtrack group irc????????????????
[18:38] <Myrtti> !bt | Nuiok
[18:38] <Myrtti> !backtrack | Nuiok
[18:39] <Jordan_U> mody: Indeed boot from a LiveCD/USB, and be warned that that error message from grub means that either the Windows recovery either renumbered your Ubuntu partition or deleted it entirely.
[18:40] <KM0201> mody: i agree, the recovery probably nuked your ubuntu partition
[18:42] <KNUBBIG> Hey, I have another problem: with nload, the network usage is 1.2MB/s in, but when I call nethogs, the traffic is only about 1kb/s. Any idea what could cause that?
[18:43] <yzhd> how do I installed a .deb file ?
[18:43] <mody> i just ran ls -1 /dev/disk/by-label/ and i got rescovery , system/x20recovery
[18:43] <mody> means windows deleted ubuntu??
[18:43] <KNUBBIG> yzhd: sudo dpkg -i THEFILE.deb
[18:44] <yzhd> I downloaded google chrome, but when I click on it, ubuntu software center opens.. and I get an error
[18:44] <KM0201> yzhd: or you can double click it.
[18:44] <yzhd> KNUBBIG, thanks :)
[18:44] <yzhd> doudouble click doesn't work
[18:44] <KM0201> yzhd: if you got an error from software center, dpkg will give you an error also... you can install chromium-browser form the repos... sudo apt-get install chromium-browser
[18:44] <yzhd> yes, but it's not the same :/
[18:44] <RedBunny-Web> hey oi got /SASL working ,.... ;)
[18:45] <KM0201> yzhd: what was the error you got in software manager?
[18:45] <KM0201> yzhd: and i fail to see how they are any different, but... ok
[18:46] <yzhd> terminal works I think
[18:46] <yzhd> Selecting previously deselected package google-chrome-stable. (Reading database ... 163418 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking google-chrome-stable (from lol.deb) ... dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of google-chrome-stable:  google-chrome-stable depends on libnss3-1d (>= 3.12.3); however:   Package libnss3-1d is not installed.  google-chrome-stable depends on libcurl3; however:   Package libcurl3 is not 
[18:46] <KM0201> jesus
[18:46] <gdane> hello
[18:46] <KM0201> thats why its not working
[18:46] <yzhd> why ?
[18:46] <KM0201> yzhd: did you read the output?
[18:46] <KM0201> it tells you right there why it can't install
[18:46] <yzhd> I installed ubuntu 11.10 today. Is there something else tha I need to install ?
[18:47] <Crypto-m> .
[18:47] <yzhd> libnss3-1d not installed
[18:47] <KM0201> yzhd: most likely, software center told you that as well, you just didn't read the error.
[18:47] <KM0201> yzhd: not installed and...... ?
[18:47] <Crypto-m> Hi I need help plx killing jews??
[18:47] <KM0201> ..
[18:48] <gdane> did someone use some face recognition soft to log in?
[18:48] <yzhd> sudp apt-get install libnss3 - 1d ?
[18:48] <KM0201> yzhd: no, if you look, it says "not installed and is not available"
[18:48] <KM0201> yzhd: do this.
[18:48] <KM0201> yzhd: open up synaptic package manager
[18:48] <mhm001> can someone help me find a link to a smaller ver of ubuntu for a live usb? I really just need something simple to fix grub
[18:48] <yzhd> I have 1 broken package
[18:49] <KM0201> yzhd: the broken package is the chrome you just tried to instal
[18:49] <KM0201> yzhd: just open synaptic
[18:49] <yzhd> done
[18:49] <KM0201> yzhd: click "settings/repositories"
[18:50] <yzhd> yes?
[18:50] <KM0201> yzhd: now... on the first tab (ubuntu software) make sure all the boxes are checked)... software sources should have a line beside it.
[18:50] <yzhd> source code was not checked
[18:50] <KM0201> yzhd: after that, click on the "other software tab"....  and check all the boxes (accept the cdrom boxes)....
[18:51] <thunder1212>  hi, i am using a dell vostro laptop; the laptop does not shut down
[18:51] <yzhd> source code doesn't work
[18:51] <MrHanjra1> thunder1212: as root: halt -p
[18:51] <KM0201> yzhd: it won't have a check next to it, it will usually have a line, or just change colors
[18:51] <mhm001> meh. *downloads normal ubuntu distro*
[18:51] <yzhd> true
[18:51] <yzhd> now I click on revert ?
[18:51] <KM0201> mhm001: whats normal?
[18:51] <KM0201> yzhd: no
[18:52] <KM0201> click on other software
[18:52] <mhm001> normal size
[18:52] <mhm001> er, full size
[18:52] <KM0201> and check all the boxes there (except cdrom, otherwise you'll be prompted to insert your cdrom all the time)
[18:52] <_Marcus> yzhd: Please prefix your sentance with the person you are responding to's nick and some sort of punctuation (such as a colon, semi-colon, or comma). This will help everyone know who you are talking to so they don't question you about it
[18:52] <KM0201> _Marcus: get over yourself
[18:52] <thunder1212> MrHanjra1: doesn't work, tried that already
[18:52] <yzhd> marcus, ok
[18:52] <MrHanjra1> thunder1212: shutdown -h 0; OR, init 0
[18:52] <scroat> moin.
[18:52] <KM0201> yzhd: after you do that, click close, and it will ask you to reload your source list, click reload
[18:53] <_Marcus> KM0201: Ubottu has a trigger that something like what I was saying, but I don't remember what it was, so I said it.
[18:53] <KM0201> _Marcus: so?
[18:53] <A|9001> hi all
[18:53] <_Marcus> KM0201: Ubottu knows best
[18:53] <scroat> I would like to do a distribution upgrade.  Can I still "use" my machine durring upgrade?
[18:53] <KM0201> _Marcus: hardly... if you didn't want to respond to him, just don't... it's the beauty of being free.
[18:53] <mhm001> ^
[18:54] <yzhd> km0201, it didn't ask to reload
[18:54] <KM0201> yzhd: is your source list reloading?
[18:54] <KM0201> yzhd: click reload then
[18:54] <_Marcus> KM0201: Whatever. He doesn't HAVE to do that, but it would help the whole channel if he did
[18:54] <RedBunny> Yeah I'm on Linux for the first time since 2003 ,........ ;)
[18:54] <yzhd> km0201,ok
[18:54] <thunder1212> MrHanjra1: tried init 0 also, actually i tried windows 7 also, there also the system doesn't shutdown
[18:54] <KM0201> _Marcus: exactly, he doesnt "HAVE" to.... and you weren't talking to him, so why wo9uld you care if he does it or not?
[18:54]  * mhm001 high fives RedBunny 
[18:54] <RedBunny> thanx
[18:55] <KM0201> RedBunny: 2003?  good lord, i imagine this was quite a change for you..lol
[18:55] <RedBunny> yeah it used to be win 2000 and linux redhat first fedora edition
[18:55] <yzhd> km0201, done
[18:55] <KM0201> yzhd: now, click on Edit/Fix Broken Packages
[18:55] <cousteau> thunder1212, sounds like a bad ACPI setting, maybe something wrong with the BIOS?
[18:56] <yzhd> done
[18:56] <yzhd> km0201, done
[18:56] <MrHanjra1> thunder1212: are you on windows 7 or linux ?
[18:56] <KM0201> yzhd: now click apply
[18:56] <cousteau> thunder1212, as a last resource, you can use REISUO
[18:57] <_Marcus> KM0201: Same reason ubottu has a trigger to say that
[18:57] <thunder1212> also,, i can only reboot the system and when i do that on any os.. it does that a bit slowly and with a distinct "tuck" sound..
[18:57] <yzhd> km0201, should I retry now?
[18:57] <KM0201> _Marcus: i don't care what ubottu has a trigger for... it doesn't mean anyone "has" to do it.
[18:58] <thunder1212> MrHanjra1: on linux..
[18:58] <_Marcus> KM0201: I know this, I already said he doesn't have to do it
[18:58] <KM0201> yzhd: it should have tried to fix the problem when you clicked on fix.
[18:58] <yzhd> it did
[18:58] <KM0201> _Marcus: then why did you even mention it?... you weren't even talking to him, so why did he care?
[18:58] <KM0201> *you care
[18:58] <thunder1212> cousteau: how do i correct that
[18:58] <KM0201> yzhd: then it should be installed i think, search the dashboard for chrome
[18:58] <_Marcus> KM0201: Enough about this, on-topic time
[18:58] <cousteau> thunder1212, does "sudo poweroff now" throw any warning or error message?
[18:58] <KM0201> _Marcus: i am on topic, you';re trying to be overbearing.
[18:58] <MrHanjra1> thunder1212: any errors?
[18:59] <yzhd> it has
[18:59] <cousteau> thunder1212, no idea, but likely in the BIOS settings when you boot/reboot the PC
[18:59] <yzhd> km0201, thank you so much ! :)
[18:59] <amy2012> hello, how do I open .mzp file in Ubuntu?
[18:59] <cousteau> amy2012, what's an .mzp?
[19:00] <KM0201> .mzp?
[19:00] <amy2012> kind of zip file
[19:00] <cousteau> it's not like I know all possible 3-letter combinations, not even that they're non-repeated...
[19:00] <KM0201> zip files are usually handled with archive manager, but i've never heard of an mzip
[19:00]  * cousteau looks up on file-extensions.org
[19:00] <cousteau> try this:   file thefilename.mzp
[19:00] <KM0201> costcosJarred: lol.
[19:01] <cousteau> that'll give more info about the format
[19:01] <KM0201> oops
[19:01] <KM0201> cousteau: :)
[19:01] <amy2012> mountable zip for winarchiver
[19:01] <KM0201> hmm
[19:01] <cousteau> or only say "data" and then you're *****ed
[19:01] <MrHanjra1> thunder1212: and what kernel are you using? some older kernels seems to give problem (as per google search)
[19:01] <A|9001> hi all ; anyone know a service shell to practice with it ?
[19:01] <yzhd> km0201, you know how to setup a temperature monitor ?
[19:01] <KM0201> yzhd: yes
[19:01] <yzhd> km0201, I can't make it work
[19:01] <ssta> amy2012: 7z does mzp I think
[19:01] <Pici> amy2012: If its just a zip file, you should just be able to use unzip to extract it.
[19:01] <KM0201> yzhd: which one are you trying to install?
[19:02] <yzhd> km0201, which one is the best?
[19:02] <amy2012> ive tried xarchive but no joy
[19:02] <KM0201> yzhd: hold on..
[19:02] <mhm001> is anyone here by chance familiar with plot boot manager? their channel looks dead. essentially, I'm running windows xp and ubuntu dual boot. in windows now. installed plop manager after a while of not using it. can't get back to my grub menu to get to ubuntu
[19:02] <yzhd> km0201, I wan't it to show my computer temperature/cpu
[19:02] <scroat> Can a dist upgrade from 11.04 to the lastest, take place in the background so I can proceed working/devel ?
[19:02] <KM0201> yzhd: this is the one I use ....  http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/10/my-weather-indicator-adds-geolocation-support/
[19:03] <Pici> scroat:  a dist-upgrade is not for upgrading from one release to the next.  If you mean using update-manager or do-release-upgrade, then yes, you can continue working.
[19:03] <mhm001> downloading ubuntu to liveusb it, but if there's a way I can add ubuntu to Plop, that would be decent. I tend to use Plop a lot (old bios, doesn't support usb booting)
[19:03] <cousteau> http://www.file-extensions.org/search/?searchstring=mzp — Autodesk 3D Studio Max MAXScript zip package
[19:03] <yzhd> km0201, sorry, I explained wrong. I meant computer/cpu temperature
[19:03] <Pici> amy2012: what about just: unzip file.mzp
[19:03] <cousteau> amy2012, so...  maybe Blender can open those
[19:03] <KM0201> yzhd: oh ok.. yeah i don't do that.. i know there's something called lm-sensors, that is supposed to handle that.. but i have no idea how to set it up...
[19:03] <cousteau> although they're probably just zipped files
[19:05] <KM0201> yzhd: but, lm-sensors is in the repositories (install it with software manager) if you want to install it, then do some googling to set it up.
[19:05] <yzhd> km0201, I need it.. because my computer gets so hot while running ubuntu 11.10. I have installed xfce, I runned it inside ubuntu. I also see it when starting the pc.. but the menu at the beginning (choosing between ubuntu and vista is gone) + nothing is changed (DE)
[19:05] <cousteau> Pici, probably a bad idea.  It might work, but it's like unzipping a .odt or a .jar or a .docx — you'll just see a bunch of XML/binary files and won't get anything of use
[19:05] <KM0201> yzhd: why is it getting so hot?.. is this a laptop?
[19:05] <amy2012> it was one I had in windows
[19:05] <yzhd> km0201, yes
[19:05] <mhm001> brb
[19:06] <cousteau> yzhd, xfce is not that light...  I think LXDE is the way to go for lightness
[19:06] <amy2012> with winarchiver
[19:06] <KM0201> yzhd: what version of ubuntu, how old is the laptop, etc?
[19:06] <cousteau> (however, maybe xfce relieves load from the GPU)
[19:06] <malkauns> why does the new flash update make everyone look blue!!!
[19:06] <Pici> amy2012: What did `file` say about your mzp file?
[19:06] <KM0201> yzhd: and i agree with cousteau xfce is like calling a fat sister "light"...
[19:06] <yzhd> km0201, 11.10, PC is 2 years old (windows vista, 3gb ram, dual core 2.1 ghz)
[19:06] <KM0201> yzhd: *some* laptops... their fans are controlled from within Windows...
[19:07] <cousteau> KM0201, actually, I think xfce is the new gnome, lxde the new xfce, and gnome the new...  er, beryl?
[19:07] <KM0201> yzhd: if windows isn't running, fans aren't running.
[19:07] <yzhd> km0201, the fans are running
[19:07] <KM0201> cousteau: the new craptacular GUI.. :)
[19:07] <KM0201> yzhd: hmm.
[19:07] <yzhd> I runned some commands to get xfce.. it downloaded 300 mb.. how do I uninstall it ?
[19:07] <yzhd> ran *
[19:07] <xangua> !puregnome | yzhd
[19:07] <decksmasher> the new ubuntu 12.01 has quite a few bugs ive noticed.
[19:08]  * miadbahrami salam be hame :)   eydetoon mobaraaaaaaaaaaaaak
[19:08] <_Marcus> decksmasher: It's still in Beta ;)
[19:08] <ssta> decksmasher: 12.04 isn't released yet
[19:08] <Fyodorovna> !precise | decksmasher
[19:08] <ssta> about a month before it's released
[19:08] <Dulak> decksmasher: that's normal on the run-up to an LTS,  packages update everyday to clean things up
[19:09] <yzhd> actually, gnome is working fine for now.. but is xfce more lightweight than gnome ?
[19:09] <MrHanjra1> !lightweight
[19:09] <MrHanjra1> mehh!
[19:09] <decksmasher> i got it free with the linux magazine it also had open susie 12.1 fuduntu 12.1 and ubuntu 12.04
[19:09] <ssta> you want lightweight, use twm :)  After that there's just various degrees of heavyweight
[19:10] <decksmasher> is it a beta version?
[19:10] <Fyodorovna> decksmasher, take it to #ubuntu+1
[19:10] <KM0201> yzhd: xfce *used* to be lightweight, nowdays, no
[19:10] <MrHanjra1> using any of the WM's instead of DE's are always lightweight...for example, fluxkbox over kde, gnome, kde, e17..blah blah blah
[19:10] <KM0201> yzhd: if you really want "lightweight"... join us in #lubuntu.. :)
[19:10] <QUESTION> what is a good lightweight browser?
[19:10] <decksmasher> i dont want a fix im just talking about it.?
[19:10] <yzhd> km0201,, I see. You know how I can uninstall it? it has replaced the start screen.
[19:10] <ssta> QUESTION: lynx2?
[19:10] <Fyodorovna> decksmasher, #ubuntu+1 is where anything 12.04 is discussed.
[19:10] <KM0201> yzhd: you should just be able to apt-get remove xubunt-desktop, i think
[19:11] <ssta> QUESTION: browsing is inherently a computationally intensive thing these days
[19:11] <yzhd> km0201,, is xfce xubuntu?
[19:11] <KM0201> yzhd: essentially, yes
[19:11] <decksmasher> not all linux systems have aplitude on it?
[19:11] <cousteau> ssta, I thought you were insistingly asking questions and highlighting that they were questions...  :/
[19:11] <Fyodorovna> !ot | ssta
[19:12] <ssta> cousteau: I can't help the nick he picks :)
[19:12] <yzhd> km0201, 300 mb takes 5 seconds to remove ?
[19:12] <KM0201> yzhd: remove that package... then after it finishes
[19:12] <KM0201> type "sudo apt-get autoremove"
[19:12] <ssta> Fyodorovna: I was responding to a question...I didn't think I was being offtopic
[19:12] <LukkuTZ> hello guys . does anyone know how to install ubuntu on a laptop with a broken dvd rom?
[19:13] <KM0201> LukkuTZ: can it boot USB?
[19:13] <Fyodorovna> LukkuTZ, with a usb
[19:13] <LukkuTZ> i tried , it did not boot
[19:13] <yzhd> km0201, http://paste.ubuntu.com/904400/
[19:13] <KM0201> LukkuTZ: how did you set up the USB?
[19:13] <decksmasher> the fuzzball you can use a toggle
[19:13] <yzhd> that's right ?
[19:13] <KM0201> yzhd: hmm, hang on a second
[19:13] <Fyodorovna> LukkuTZ, did you find the out of the bios boot menu generally f12 works at powering on.
[19:13] <LukkuTZ> i used the burn image from UltraIso
[19:14] <Fyodorovna> !tab | LukkuTZ
[19:14] <LukkuTZ> and i burned the ubuntu ISO
[19:14] <LukkuTZ> onto the usb
[19:14] <cousteau> ssta, you weren't responding to a question, you were responding to question
[19:14] <cousteau> lololol...  ok, I'll shut up now
[19:14] <KM0201> yzhd: try sudo apt-get autoremove xubuntu-desktop
[19:15] <yzhd> xubuntu desktop is not installed
[19:15] <Fyodorovna> LukkuTZ, load the usb with unetbootin and find the out of bios boot from menu if needed.
[19:15] <yzhd> km0201, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[19:15] <yzhd> km0201, would that work?
[19:16] <LukkuTZ> ok , i will google unetbootin and i will try to use that . thank you
[19:16] <KM0201> yzhd: um, thats pretty old, so you might get some errors (on package names) but its worth a try
[19:16] <ssta> KM0201: umm, that's not what autoremove does...
[19:16] <KM0201> ssta: i was just noticing that.. :)
[19:16] <BobMarley> hello
[19:16] <BobMarley> what kind of help related to ubuntu i can find here?
[19:16] <Fyodorovna> LukkuTZ, no problem, sometimes moving the usb to the first read in the bios does not work so you have the other boot from menu.
[19:17] <Fyodorovna> BobMarley, support in general here.
[19:17] <humbeto> humberto8486
[19:18] <bisiu> hi I am new to linux and I am having trouble instaling thirdparty software ie canon printer driver can any one help
[19:18] <Fyodorovna> bisiu, are you sure you need a third party
[19:18] <yzhd> km0201, how can I know if it is uninstalled ?
[19:18] <nosalt> I want to run Ubuntu 8.04 on a  Virtual Machine
[19:18] <bisiu> yeah I tried printing and it did'nt
[19:18] <Myrth> hi. is it possible to install Ubuntu Server from Live CD, with loading a custom SSD driver?
[19:19] <KM0201> yzhd: log out, click sessions, and see if xubuntu is still there
[19:19] <Fyodorovna> nosalt, 8.04 is end of life
[19:19] <nosalt> Where can I get the VDI?
[19:19] <ssta> nosalt: it should Just Work.  But you'd have to point sources.list at the archive servers yourself...
[19:19] <tom_uk> how can I transfer movies to an iphone 3g with ubunut. gtkpod doesn't work.
[19:19] <KM0201> Myrth: ubuntu server doesn't get installed via a live cd..
[19:19] <Fyodorovna> nosalt, you can't basically and 8.04 is not supported here after eol.
[19:20] <MrHanjrah> why 8.04? any specific reasons?
[19:20] <RedBunny> how do you change the system font in ubuntu 12 ,...?
[19:20] <cousteau> nosalt, no idea...  there was this site with Ubuntu images for VBox, but I'm not sure it has 8.04 anymore
[19:20] <_Marcus> RedBunny: Ask that in #ubuntu+1
[19:20] <marsfligth> I'd like to see an Ubuntu time-line that includes also the desktop environments that will be released officially with next Ubuntu distro's. I ask this, just to understand if to still waiting for a 'unity' expiration and a return to the desktop environment present for instance in 'Lucid' or look around the world for a different distro. Actually I'm using 'Maverick'.
[19:20] <RedBunny> aye
[19:20] <ssta> Fyodorovna: sure you can  It's not even hard.  That it's EOL doesn't make it impossible.  If you don't want to support it then don't, but don't misinform because you don't want to support it
[19:21] <nosalt> ssta: Just following the instructions on VB should work, right? I don't need drivers/an installation setup (liveimage)/etc?
[19:21] <Fyodorovna> marsfligth, gnome 2 is gone not supported and wont return.
[19:21] <Cache_Money> I'm creating an Ubuntu 11.10 instance on VirtualBox running on a Windows laptop.  Will it make a difference if I use Ubuntu 32-bit or 64-bit?  I'm wondering if the VM will run faster using 32-bit
[19:22] <Dulak> Except it will return as cinnamon at some point, I'm sure.
[19:22] <ssta> nosalt: you shouldn't.  You will have to point sources.list at the oldreleases archive (which I don't recall the URL for offhand, but google should know)
[19:22] <marsfligth> Are there intentions to leave 'Unity' for something like 'Mate'?
[19:22] <MrHanjrah> Cache_Money: depends on your processor
[19:22] <_Marcus> nosalt: You need an image of Ubuntu 8.04 to install it. I don't know where you can find one though. ssta may know
[19:22] <Fyodorovna> Dulak, use nics please and cinnamon is a third party.
[19:22] <Cache_Money> MrHanjrah:  I have a new laptop - 8GB RAM, i7 processor
[19:22] <Fyodorovna> marsfligth, no mate is a arch fork.
[19:23] <Dulak> Fyodorovna: My comment was general, not a response, and third-party or not, it will return.
[19:23] <ssta> _Marcus: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/8.04.3/
[19:23] <_Marcus> Dulak: I don't think they will remove Unity.
[19:23] <ssta> umm, that was for nosalt I guess
[19:23] <_Marcus> Dulak: But you will always have the option to remove it yourself
[19:23] <_Marcus> nosalt: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/8.04.3/
[19:23] <MrHanjrah> Cache_Money: oh wow, then you should worry about how to make that giant busy, :) go ahead and install 32 bit without any hitch
[19:24] <Fyodorovna> Dulak, cinnamon is a mint thing what is it to return to?
[19:24] <Dulak> _Marcus: That was what I meant, thought the discussion was that gnome 2 would not be available
[19:24] <cousteau> nosalt, http://virtualboxes.org/images/ubuntu/ – here, there's an ubuntu 8.04 there, get it while it's hot
[19:24] <nosalt> ssta, _Marcus , Thanks! :)
[19:24] <marsfligth> Fyodorovna: so, the future is 'Unity', are you sure?
[19:24] <Cache_Money> MrHanjrah:  So, I'm not missing out on anythiing by not running 64-bit?
[19:24] <MrHanjrah> Cache_Money: not in my consious
[19:24] <Fyodorovna> marsfligth, the future is gnome 3 unity is a plugin in compiz running in gnome 3.
[19:24] <ssta> Fyodorovna: I don't understand this "not supported" refrain you have.  10.04 is *still* supported, and *still* contains gnome2...
[19:24] <Cache_Money> MrHanjrah:  cool... thanks for the advice
[19:25] <nosalt> cousteau: Thanks to you too!
[19:25] <KM0201> marsfligth: sad as it is, he's probably right... embrace the horror, learn a new GUI (KDE or LXDE would be my suggestion)
[19:25] <OldParr> brasero says that one directory's son will have 7 father directory, also says it will not possily be readable by windows ... how do i burn that directory ?
[19:25] <BadCodSmell> How can I control which kernel grub chooses to boot in grub for ubuntu 10.10?
[19:25] <cousteau> nosalt, you're welcome  :)
[19:25] <basher82> why are they pushing unity so much?
[19:25] <bisiu> does any one know how to clear the error meaasge from the terminal
[19:25] <Myrth> is there a guide how to install Ubuntu Server on box with only USB and SSD that requires custom driver? i've tried unetbootin with NetInstall option, but I couldn't find option to load custom driver during installation sequence...
[19:25] <yzhd> km0201, I installed chrome.. then I logged off and in.. chrome is gone now ??
[19:26] <nosalt> Also, wy doesn't ubuntu participate in GSoC?
[19:26] <ssta> basher82: marketting.  If they didn't push nobody would use it and it wouldn't improve
[19:26] <nosalt> *why
[19:26] <KM0201> yzhd: well that makes no sense
[19:26] <BadCodSmell> unity ruined ubuntu for me
[19:26] <BadCodSmell> I'll never use it as a desktop again, sadly.
[19:26] <Dulak> BadCodSmell: edit /etc/default/grub and set GRUB_DEFAULT to the number of the kernel you want it to boot by default.  Counting starts at 0 for the top menu entry and increments by 1 as you go down the menu.
[19:26] <ssta> nosalt: umm, they do (or at least used to)
[19:27] <yzhd> km0201, when  click on system info, I see 45gb.. but filesystem = 261 gb? (it's the vista partition)
[19:27] <_Marcus> BadCodSmell: For me, it seemed like it was the end of the world. I hated it. Then I started using it, and I found out it was really good. It has problems here and there but I don't want to switch to anything else, so I got used to using it.
[19:27] <KM0201> yzhd: how did you install ubuntu?
[19:27] <marsfligth> Does exist a sort of 'petition' to officially ask the abandon to Unity/Mac like style?
[19:27] <KM0201> did you use wubi?
[19:27] <Myrth> is there a difference in packages between desktop and server? or it's just different sets of packages?
[19:27] <nosalt> ssta: there's fedora, debian, suse in gsoc... but no ubuntu
[19:27] <ssta> marsfligth: you're not forced to use it.  I use gnome-session-fallback...
[19:28] <ssta> nosalt: hmm, I dunno.  Definitely Ubuntu *used* to participate
[19:28] <BadCodSmell> marsfligth: Yes, it's called switching distro :P
[19:28] <ssta> Myrth: just a different set of packages/different installer
[19:28] <yzhd> km0201, shrinked volume. Had 48 gb. 46 and 2 gb. Formated 46gb to ext4 and 2gb to swap. Chose the 3rd option in the installer and select the partitions
[19:28] <Myrth> ssta: thanks, so i'll just install from live CD without gui packages
[19:28] <Fyodorovna> marsfligth, right a privately owned company is going to be influenced by a petition.
[19:28] <KM0201> yzhd: hmm.. sounds right.
[19:29] <Dulak> BadCodSmell: It just needs to mature,  it is actually very usable for me on my laptop, but I'm sticking to Lucid on my desktops until it's had time to gain the functionality they abandoned.
[19:29] <Myrth> ssta: i'm curious why the SSD drivers are different from Ubuntu Desktop and Server
[19:29] <_Marcus> Fyodorovna: It's happened a lot.
[19:29] <yoshimi-pink> Hey guys I just got the weirdest error message ever
[19:29] <yzhd> km0201, that's not a problem for now.. but the xubuntu is not uninstalled ? :(
[19:29] <ssta> Myrth: not sure the installer in the livecd does that.  Be interested to find out if it works :)
[19:29] <Myrth> ssta: *for
[19:29] <_Marcus> yoshimi-pink: Pastebin it please
[19:29] <KM0201> yzhd: try this... open synaptic again
[19:29] <yoshimi-pink> I'm trying to run a python script and it says no such file or directory
[19:29] <BadCodSmell> Dulak: I'm sure it's great in some cases, but when you're doing things like development, that is, you aren't a baby, the UI is not helpful.
[19:30] <ssta> Myrth: I didn't realise that they were...teh install CDs are different...but ultimately they all come from the same archive
[19:30] <yzhd> km0201, ok
[19:30] <yoshimi-pink> and that's all, i us ls to check the directory and it's right there but try to run it and nothing
[19:30] <_Marcus> yoshimi-pink: Oh. That was short error message. Are you sure that the directory or file it is trying to access is available?
[19:30] <cousteau> yoshimi-pink, how are you running it?  ./thescript.py   ?
[19:30] <KM0201> yzhd: do a search for "xubuntu-desktop"
[19:30] <MrHanjrah> yoshimi-pink: pastebin it....
[19:30] <yoshimi-pink> yeah
[19:30] <tdn> I have installed Ubuntu on a media-pc. I would like to have a user automatically log in at startup and then start XBMC. How to do that in Ubuntu?
[19:30] <cousteau> with the ./ included?
[19:30] <yoshimi-pink> paste pin what???? :no such file or directory
[19:30] <yoshimi-pink> thats all!
[19:30] <pg345> yoshimi: check if python is actually installed.
[19:30] <pg345> which python
[19:30] <yzhd> km0201, found a lot of stuffs. KM, is there a possibility for you to help me via teamviewer ?
[19:30] <yoshimi-pink> please stop the pastebin fetish
[19:30] <marsfligth> Fyodorovna: Why not? even if private without happy customers the play finish
[19:30] <_Marcus> yoshimi-pink: Sorry, I was excepting something larer
[19:30] <Dulak> BadCodSmell: I am a developer, I have no issues with it, 90% of the time I'm in a terminal or my editor anyways so I don't even care about the gui.
[19:30] <_Marcus> larger*
[19:30] <cousteau> yoshimi-pink, paste the exact command you wrote
[19:31] <Myrth> http://www.oczenterprise.com/drivers.html - Server and Desktop drivers have different size... I wonder why they have to be different if it's the same...
[19:31] <yoshimi-pink> ./KatawaShoujo.py
[19:31] <KM0201> yzhd: answer your PM
[19:31] <cousteau> yoshimi-pink, hmmm...  does it have +x permissions?
[19:31] <cousteau> or, have you tried with   python KatawaShoujo.py
[19:31] <MrHanjrah> yoshimi-pink: www.pastebin.com , open that, copy what you tried to do (with error), post the final link here,,,is it that hard?
[19:31] <blink_> hi, updated nvidia drivers or flash today, and now videos show up with flesh tones as blue, and transperencies are occuring between windows where absolute black should exist, anybody else run into this?
[19:31] <ssta> yoshimi-pink: what's the shebang?
[19:32] <cousteau> MrHanjrah, nahhh...  better paste.ubuntu.com
[19:32] <blink_> running flash 11,2,202,228, and most recent nvidia-drivers package from oniric
[19:32] <yoshimi-pink> ./Katawashoujo.py
[19:32] <yoshimi-pink> bash: ./Katawashoujo.py: No such file or directory
[19:32] <yoshimi-pink> wow
[19:32] <cousteau> yoshimi-pink, now try   python Katawashoujo.py
[19:32] <blink_> definately an nvidia-driver issue, since black text in a headline is transparent too
[19:32] <MrHanjrah> cousteau: or better yet: http://sprunge.us :P
[19:32] <yoshimi-pink> that says broken pipe
[19:32] <cousteau> also, do this:   ls -l Katawashoujo.py
[19:32] <yoshimi-pink> hold on I'll pastebin this
[19:33] <cousteau> MrHanjrah, that's the one used by the candide bot at ##c ... what's it good for?
[19:33] <marsfligth> ssta: It is partially true. Using 'gnome-session-fallback' many functions of version 2.x are missing. I mean 'applet indicators' an others
[19:33] <yoshimi-pink> http://pastebin.com/AKqwdd8j
[19:34] <ssta> marsfligth: yeah.  It's the closest I can get... I'll look into the options again when precise releases
[19:34] <cousteau> oh, command-line pasting
[19:34] <MrHanjrah> cousteau: no need to open the brwoser at all, just cat command | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us
[19:34] <MrHanjrah> cousteau: yes :)
[19:34] <cousteau> I think I once made a codepad interface in Python or similar
[19:34] <blink_> alright well I'll be here for another hour or two, best.
[19:36] <nosalt> also, i get _very_ confused with grep. Can you point me to a good tutorial for the same? (man pages read, doesn't help too much)
[19:37] <nosalt> How much of bash do I need to know to effectively use it?
[19:37] <blink_> http://regex.learncodethehardway.org/
[19:37] <MrHanjrah> nosalt: man grep
[19:37] <MrHanjrah> nosalt: its never enough
[19:37] <ssta> manpages aren't very good for learning from, they're largely for reference
[19:37] <BadCodSmell> Damn it I really miss lilo. Things were simple back then.
[19:38] <nosalt> ssta: Yes, that's why I mentioned tutorials... Any suggestions?
[19:38] <acicula> nothing like li
[19:38] <ssta> nosalt: http://www.panix.com/~elflord/unix/grep.html
[19:38] <goddard> are there any programs that automatically hibernates your system when your battery is at a certain percentage?
[19:39] <nosalt> ssta: :-)
[19:40] <Fyodorovna> goddard, power will hibernate when critically low
[19:40] <Zaitzev> Earlier today I read that Adobe upgraded their Flash player. Fingers crossed, I updated it, and wouldn't you know, the crap still isn't working properly on my system.
[19:40] <tom_uk> how can I transfer movies to an iphone 3g with ubunut??
[19:40] <goddard> Fyodorovna: mine didn't
[19:40] <blink_> back to debian, won't be back.
[19:40] <Fyodorovna> goddard, you have a swap at least equal to your ram?
[19:41] <_Marcus> !iphone | tom_uk
[19:41] <mody> I had windows 7 & ubuntu latest sde by side,  have just done rcovery for windows and now I get "no such partition grub resque"
[19:41] <mody> now i have installed a new ubuntu and i still see thee message!
[19:41] <Zaitzev> mody: Installing Windows will mess up the grub
[19:41] <Fyodorovna> mody, have you checked if ubuntu is even there?
[19:41] <phoboshax> Question and what not, I've been trying for about a day to get tiny7 to install through VMWare on XP and it doesn't look like its going to let me partition off part of the hard drive and claim it as a primary read-write drive from within XP, if I use Wubi to create a temp Ubuntu install could I then use Wubi to make an actual Ubuntu install on some of the left over hdd space
[19:41] <phoboshax> and then
[19:41] <marsfligth> Anyway, after few years with Ubuntu, Ubuntu send me out, just for a wrong Ubuntu choice. If Ubuntu crew should be a bit more clever and democratic, it will be leave people free to move to 'Unity' or maintain the usual behavior about desktop environment, seen that the previous desktop environment is in use since 15/20 years, and impose a so strong change in few months is to me, a very rude impositon
[19:41] <mody> NOW I HAVE SDA1 ,SDA2,SDA3,SDA4
[19:41] <phoboshax> use that to
[19:41] <phoboshax> owait this is not support
[19:41] <phoboshax> LOL COMPUTERS
[19:41] <goddard> Fyodorovna: not sure
[19:42] <Fyodorovna> goddard, you need that to hibernate.
[19:42] <mody> Zaitzev: i had windows long ago i just did recovery for it
[19:42] <Fyodorovna> mody, boot a ubuntu cd or usb open gparted and look if ubuntu is still on the HD.
[19:43] <goddard> Fyodorovna: actually my swap is only 4.7
[19:43] <auronandace> marsfligth: feel free not to use unity, i use xfce
[19:43] <phoboshax> owait this is a support channel
[19:43] <Fyodorovna> goddard, how big is the ram?
[19:43] <goddard> Fyodorovna: 16
[19:43] <cousteau> what does "only 4.7" mean?
[19:43] <MrHanjrah> damn16 gb ram?
[19:43] <Fyodorovna> goddard, this is all gigs?
[19:43] <cousteau> damn, that's more than half the disk space in my netbook
[19:43] <goddard> yes of course :D
[19:44] <MrHanjrah> loll i have 1 gb of it,,,
[19:44] <mody> Fyodorovna: my "try ubuntu" wont work i have just installed a fresh ubuntu again ow i think i have 2 installations of ubuntu
[19:44] <Fyodorovna> goddard, pprobably the problem hard to say really.
[19:44] <phoboshax> WOULD ANYONE PERHAPS, know anything about VMWare and NTFS and windows 7 installs within Ubuntu
[19:44] <phoboshax> perhaps
[19:44] <mody> my grub is messed up and i cant even boot with anything except the liveusb
[19:44] <cousteau> My netbook has 8 GB!!!
[19:44] <goddard> Fyodorovna: my hibernation has never really worked well
[19:44] <cousteau> of disk!!
[19:44] <goddard> Fyodorovna: i will try increases swap size
[19:44] <phoboshax> With the virtual desktops and the not having any writeable medium besides the hdd
[19:45] <Guest_____> I am thinking about formatting my laptop and putting ubuntu 12.04 on it. Is the easiest way to format it to boot/load a OS from USB and format the harddrive from that USB OS?
[19:45] <phoboshax> and the inability of windows XP to change partition type
[19:45] <phoboshax> due to a lack of root
[19:45] <Fyodorovna> mody, you will need to boot the cd to a desktop to fix grub and get other info really.
[19:45] <phoboshax> and Ubuntu with its sudp
[19:46] <phoboshax> the read write being the important bit
[19:46] <mody> Fyodorovna: im downloading boot repair and will make a bootable usb, will that work?
[19:46] <BadCodSmell> Only time will tell.
[19:46] <phoboshax> and Ubuntu being able to act as a separate system and the old man with his sad old dog walking down the highway of regret
[19:46] <tom_uk> ubottu: Sorry, as I said, iphone not ipod.
[19:47] <phoboshax> and can Wubi be used to install a legit copy of Ubuntu on spare hdd space on the same disk
[19:47] <Fyodorovna> mody, possibly, but save the bootscript it makes if it doesn't to post.
[19:47] <scroat> is there a way to upgrade to the latest release via apt ?
[19:47] <phoboshax> preferably a partition
[19:47] <scroat> I don't feel like burning CD's and wiping my hard drive again
[19:47] <Fyodorovna> scroat, you have just one install?
[19:47] <KM0201> phoboshax: why wouldn't you just boot the live cd and install normally?
[19:47] <phoboshax> because I dont have any cds
[19:47] <phoboshax> or pen drives
[19:47] <ssta> scroat: do-release-upgrade?
[19:47] <phoboshax> and because I am a stubborn person with a prescription to adderall
[19:47] <Zaitzev> can't wait to get my hands on a Raspberry Pi so I can get back to Windows.
[19:47] <phoboshax> and an open afternoon
[19:47] <Fyodorovna> scroat, not having a cd of a install is haphazard at best.
[19:48] <KM0201> phoboshax: well, to my knowledge, the answer is no...
[19:48] <mody> if im using livecd to get in terminal how do i know if ubuntu is already installed?
[19:48] <scroat> ssta: thank you
[19:48] <KM0201> mody: that made no sense.
[19:49] <phoboshax> so you are saying to me, phobos, that if I boot up wubi and then use that to take a portion of unallocated space on the disk and partition it in Ubuntu format that I could not then
[19:49] <Fyodorovna> mody, you can look in gparted, sudo fdisk -l will tell you of the partitions.
[19:49] <phoboshax> put a legit copy of Ubuntu
[19:49] <phoboshax> on that partition
[19:49] <ssta> phoboshax: not with wubi.  Wubi installs to a sort of virtual disk...
[19:50] <phoboshax> yeah its virtual
[19:50] <phoboshax> but cant you just drop an ubuntu install on the partition and then boot record it in
[19:50] <KM0201> phoboshax: thats pretty much exactly what we're saying
[19:50] <Fyodorovna> mody, to be honest we are missing a lot of info to really help you.
[19:50] <kant9015> .
[19:50] <phoboshax> I mean I guess I could just do that with VMware wouldnt really need wubi
[19:51] <phoboshax> I havent used ubuntu in awhile does the OS have anything like an NTLDR
[19:51] <LukkuTZ> hello guys i was not able to boot from usb using unetbootin . i am running a windows 7 system atm, and it seems that it is not possible to boot from the usb . My dvd does not work either . Any idea about how to install ubuntu?
[19:51] <phoboshax> that would stop me from just telling the computer to do it
[19:51] <ssta> phoboshax: technically, yes.  In reality...it requires a lot of understanding to do it that way...and if you get it wrong you can lose dats
[19:51] <ssta> data
[19:51] <Fyodorovna> !bootinfo | mody this would really help
[19:51] <marsfligth> auronandace: I hope that You are jocking. Do You know what time, energies spent from users during the last 20 yr? So, now, just because someone has decided badly for all, I'd move to other desktop environments immature, and definitely less compatible and stable than the previous desktop environment. No, this is an explicit dictatorship.
[19:51] <LukkuTZ> is there any way to install it from the hard drive?
[19:52] <phoboshax> hmmmm understanding
[19:52] <phoboshax> can I just tell Ubuntu to use the partition from VMWare
[19:52] <mody> Fyodorovna: i had ubuntu and windows 7 side by side for  months, today i did a recovery for windows and that messed up the grub, i cant boot to windows nor ubuntu anymore all i get is partition message with grub rescue , so now i run live cd and did another ubuntu installation thought i lost my old one and now i think i have more than 5 partition in /dev
[19:52] <LukkuTZ> please help me install ubuntu . I am really hating the windows now :P
[19:52] <phoboshax> or will it give me the same read-write problem
[19:52] <phoboshax> so as I am installing it virtually
[19:52] <phoboshax> I will just tell it to go on the hard drive instead of using the virtual hdd
[19:53] <auronandace> marsfligth: what? you can use what you want. gnome devs have stopped supporting gnome2, it is a dead codebase, so thats why it is no longer offered as an option
[19:53] <Fyodorovna> mody, your words mean very little to be honest to may variables here. You do not even know what is on thew HD as pf now.
[19:53] <auronandace> marsfligth: like i said, its your choice what you want to use, nobody is forcing anything on you
[19:53] <Fyodorovna> s/the
[19:53] <marsfligth> auronandace: so, tish is corect for You?
[19:53] <nancy--> is there a good service by which users can give their credit cards on a site for shopping and the amount is transfered to the site owners account after varification with no monthly fees (paypal doesnt works in my contry, ind pk)
[19:54] <mody> Fyodorovna: its very clear, if i run fdisk -l , i will get:
[19:54] <ssta> marsfligth: there were at least a couple of people who were looking to start projects to fork gnome 2.  If they can do it, I imaghine someone will package it again
[19:54] <Fyodorovna> mody, pastebin the fdisk
[19:54] <mody> and sda2 and sda3 and 4 and 5 and 6
[19:54] <auronandace> marsfligth: being able to choose what i want is correct, i don't understand your problem
[19:54] <mody> and sda5 is linux
[19:54] <phoboshax> HYPOTHESIS: If I boot Ubuntu in VMware and then tell it to install on a partition instead of a virtual HDD would it be legit besides the master boot record Y/N
[19:54] <mody> and sda6 is linux swap / solaris
[19:55] <Fyodorovna> mody, pastebin the terminal output of fdisk
[19:55] <ssta> phoboshax: *maybe*.
[19:55] <phoboshax> that is better than no
[19:55] <mody> i cant past bin im on another pc since mine has the problem....
[19:55] <phoboshax> gg doin THAT SHIT
[19:55] <Fyodorovna> |pastbein | mody
[19:55] <Fyodorovna> mody, that is all I have to hear good luck.
[19:56] <mody> Fyodorovna: i have been very clear
[19:56] <mody> im chating from a back up computer since mine wont boot up to ubuntu or windows and thats why im here for help
[19:56] <Amoz> mody, what's your problem?
[19:56] <mody> and you tell me paste bin terminal output..
[19:57] <phoboshax> ugh 694 megs
[19:57] <phoboshax> cant u guys be more like arch
[19:57] <Amoz> mody, that's because it's much easier for everyone to help if you can paste everything
[19:57] <mody> Amoz: i had ubuntu and windows 7 side by side for  months, today i did a recovery for windows and that messed up the grub, i cant boot to windows nor ubuntu anymore all i get is partition message with grub rescue , so now i run live cd and did another ubuntu installation thought i lost my old one and now i think i have more than 5 partition in /dev
[19:58] <BUx|2> lot of crazy people on twitter
[19:58] <MrHanjrah> mody, sprunge it, it dosent need any GUI, syntax: 'cat command | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us'
[19:58] <Amoz> mody, are you using the manual/expert mode when partitioning during ubuntu install?
[19:59] <LukkuTZ> hello guys i was not able to boot from usb using unetbootin . i am running a windows 7 system atm, and it seems that it is not possible to boot from the usb . My dvd does not work either . Any idea about how to install ubuntu?  is there any way to install it from the hard drive?
[19:59] <x-zakker-x> solo habla ingles
[19:59] <Fyodorovna> !grub | mody
[19:59] <mody> Amoz: i didnt do any partition, my grub is just not working any more
[19:59] <Amoz> mody, you said you reinstalled?
[19:59] <LukkuTZ> any ideas about some diagnostics i could do?
[19:59] <mody> yess Amoz
[19:59] <LukkuTZ> find out what is going wrong
[19:59] <mody> i reinstalled and grub is not there still
[19:59] <MrHanjrah> mody: partitions are all there and you old system is installed (pretty much sure if you have that many partitions.....just reinstall grub and edit the grub.conf
[19:59] <x-zakker-x> speak in spanish
[20:00] <mody> and looks like ubuntu didnt see the old installation and just made another one on new partition i think...
[20:00] <ssta> !wubi | LukkuTZ
[20:00] <mirak> hi
[20:00] <KM0201> mody: right, it won't install on "blank space" unless you tell it to.
[20:00] <MrHanjrah> mody: what does fstab -l says?
[20:00] <MrHanjrah> fdisk -l**
[20:00] <Shwaiil> hi
[20:00] <Fyodorovna> mody, without the bootscript your really risking many more problems and little sure help from the channel.
[20:00] <KM0201> o/
[20:00] <ssta> I don't believe I just advised someone to use wubo...somebody slap me please
[20:00] <mirak> is there a way to set a drive as readonly. I am not speaking only on mount but also on the /dev/sda  device
[20:00] <Shwaiil> Q: Any good tutorials or good course, manual etc, book, whatever, for learning the CLI ?! on linux ?! thanks
[20:01] <mody> MrHanjrah: it list all this:
[20:01] <KM0201> Fyodorovna: he doesn't need a boot script, he's trying to reinstall
[20:01] <Guest_____> Is it possible to scrub the harddrive (overwrite data 3 or so times) when boot/loading Ubuntu from CD? Would I have to download a program or is there default software I could use to do that?
[20:01] <Fyodorovna> Guest_____, no 3 time wipe use nuke and boot
[20:01] <KM0201> Guest_____: you'd probably need to download boot n nuke
[20:01] <mody> replace + with new line
[20:01] <Guest_____> thanks guys, I can find that on google after I boot from the Ubuntu cd?
[20:02] <ssta> Guest_____: dd would do that (but be a little slower)
[20:02] <mody> sorry cant pastebin cause im reading screen only
[20:02] <Amoz> mody, do you have a CLI?
[20:02] <Fyodorovna> Guest_____, it is a bootable disc.
[20:02] <Amoz> mody, if so, just install pastebinit
[20:02] <Amoz> mody, sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[20:03] <Amoz> mody, then do fdisk -l | pastebinit
[20:03] <Amoz> mody, and you'll get a link
[20:03] <mody> Amoz: pastebinit has no installation candidate
[20:03] <Amoz> mody, what version are you on? do apt-get update first
[20:04] <guntbert> Shwaiil: one source would be http://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/, another one tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[20:04] <luist> what can replace: apt-get install package   but using a graphic UI?
[20:04] <Amoz> luist, software center
[20:04] <CFHowlett> luist   software center
[20:04] <Shwaiil> guntbert: tks for looking ;)
[20:04] <Pici> luist: synaptic
[20:04] <syn-ack> luist, synaptic
[20:04] <ssta> luist: software center?  synaptic?
[20:04] <guntbert> Shwaiil: you're welcome :-)
[20:04] <syn-ack> How's it going PeeCee?
[20:04] <mody> did update, wont find the package
[20:04] <ssta> synaptic is probably closer in functionality than software center
[20:04] <luist> i mean... i need to run a command from the terminal which installs a package from the repo with a graphic UI
[20:04] <mody> im in terminal through a live cd
[20:05] <mody> ctrl+F1 to get in terminal
[20:05] <ssta> luist: hmm, I don't think there is one
[20:05] <ssta> luist: why do you need it?
[20:05] <rtdos> what's the gnome command to add/remove users and change a users (advanced) permissions?
[20:05] <luist> ssta, really? something so basic
[20:05] <Fyodorovna> Guest_____, draicks nuke and boot, by the way I block random un=asked PM's and users
[20:05] <Fyodorovna> daricks
[20:05] <luist> ssta, i have an app here that needs to call the MS font installer... cuz it cant be distributed
[20:05] <Pici> luist: I'm still confused as to what you are asking for.
[20:06] <ssta> luist: generally, people who use the command line want a command line tool.  People who use a GUI want a GUI tool.  It's not a use-case I've ever heard of someone wanting
[20:06] <marsfligth> auronandace: my problem is that I am pc repairer and to many many users I suggested and installed Ubuntu during the last years. Now, with this Ugly copy of Macintosh for poor's, only new HW works with Unity, and it is full of problems. If was just for me, the problem doesn't exixt, but, I have to make work many different pc's, with low resources, but in need of all Ubuntu functionality and options. Now all has changed. The
[20:06] <marsfligth> problem is not the 2 0r 3 o some other denomination, the core is that its not reasonable to make a so drastic change w/o any reason that change completely the usage, hw request then $, and impose a totally different behavior to millions of people around the worlds. They did can purpose the new desktop environment just let it as an option/feature. I stop here, but the reasons are more and more.
[20:06] <Guest_____> kk thanks for the advice. I will try my best.
[20:06] <ssta> luist: yeah, the command line tools will do that, as will the GUI tools.  Why do you need to mix the two?
[20:06] <guntbert> marsfligth: ranting here will not help at all
[20:07] <Amoz> marsfligth, what are you complaining about? there are alternatives you know
[20:07] <Amoz> xubuntu, if you think ubuntu use too much resources
[20:07] <MrHanjrah> mody: fdisk -l. copy the output, vim 1.txt, paste the output there, save it, 'cat 1.txt | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us' , without the quotes
[20:07] <marsfligth> guntbert: Pleae, tell me where  can anting. I went on Gnome web site, but they have'nt a public contact, only irc
[20:08] <CFHowlett> marsfligth  lubuntu is another alternative...
[20:08] <syn-ack> I've heard that Lubuntu has really come a long way within the last release
[20:08] <syn-ack> I'm gonna have to check it out one of these days...
[20:09] <Myrtti> marsfligth: ranting isn't welcomed anywhere. Constructive criticism might be more welcome, but I'm not sure I'd want to recommend you any channels for that. This channel definitely is not it.
[20:09] <ssta> syn-ack: it was "okay" last time I looked.  I used to run a Gnome2 on :0 and LXDE on :1, worked pretty well.  Not the commonest configuration though :)
[20:10] <syn-ack> right...
[20:10] <marsfligth> Do you think is normal that a team that create the most used desktop enviroment, has not an email or a phone number on it/them official web site? to me they are afraid about comments about users like me
[20:10] <ssta> syn-ack: I completely failed to get it switching properly when I moved to a 4-headed setup, so I abandoned it
[20:10] <MonkeyDust> marsfligth  i bet there's a client service
[20:10] <OerHeks> marsfligth, comments usually go trough launchpad
[20:11] <CFHowlett> marsfligth   get serious.  there are MANY ways to contact including #ubuntu-devel.  Save the propaganda for someone else
[20:11] <mody> Amoz: now trying boot repair, hope it works
[20:11] <Pici> CFHowlett: #ubuntu-devel is not for feedback like that.
[20:11] <CFHowlett> Pici   noted ...
[20:11] <crf> hi, how do I get nautilus and eog to display raw files?
[20:12] <crf> canon raw files
[20:13] <luist> ssta, cuz the user needs to know that theres something being installed... and i dont want to implement the progress bar and stuff
[20:13] <luist> ssta, can i open download center and tells it to install something with a command line?
[20:14] <ssta> luist: not that I'm aware of
[20:15] <JonnyRo> Is there an easy way to find other ubuntu hosts on your network
[20:15] <JonnyRo> something like mDNS, etc?
[20:15] <marsfligth> the real probem is that the 99% of world follow the rest 1% as sheeps. If someone try to show different interpretetions, then hi is a complainer or worst. Thnks anyway
[20:15] <MonkeyDust> marsfligth  #ubuntu-offtopic to discuss such things
[20:16] <maximilius> when importing from a bookmark.html file in chromium, how can you reorganize the structure of the folders, etc. in the bookmark-manager?
[20:16] <ssta> marsfligth: lots of people dislike UNity...and lots of people like it.  Really hard to know one way or the other whether more people like than dislike
[20:16] <Si2100> Use Gnome-Shell XD
[20:16] <MonkeyDust> marsfligth  if you don't like unity, then don't use it
[20:16] <KM0201> ssta: i think the opinions of unity directly correspond to the users experiences w/ Ubuntu.
[20:17] <Si2100> I used Unity but then Moved to Gnome-Shell
[20:17] <KM0201> ssta: experienced= probably hates it   inexperienced=probably likes it..... at least thast what i've saw
[20:17] <Si2100> which gives me a much better experiance
[20:17] <gnuskool> MonkeyDust: thx for the help yesterady, finally sorted it
[20:17] <ssta> KM0201: perhaps.  I think there's enough people in both camps that it's hard to make broad sweeping statements.  Happily, there are choices (which is why I love Linux)
[20:17] <KM0201> ssta: absolutely
[20:17] <MonkeyDust> gnuskool  great \o/
[20:17] <guntbert> please drop those unity discussions - they are really pointless in a support channel
[20:18] <marwen> thinx it work you are the hero
[20:19] <revtenhigh> i'm running ubuntu 11.10 dual boot w/ windows.  I want to increase the size of the virtual partition that ubuntu uses.  i'm booted up and running live from the cd, my terminal is open, someone help a n00b out
[20:19] <Fyodorovna> revtenhigh, this a wubi install?
[20:20] <revtenhigh> from what i read, yes i believe so
[20:20] <revtenhigh> yes, lets just go with yes. i'm 99% certain
[20:20] <Si2100> dont you need to formate the partiton to expand it?
[20:20] <Fyodorovna> revtenhigh, you can't enlarge it, but you can transfer it to a partition and do it then.
[20:21] <Si2100> Would it be possible to setup a RAID system ?
[20:21] <Cache_Money> is anyone running Ubuntu on a VirtualBox?  I want to find out if there's a way to display the VM on 2 monitors
[20:21] <syn-ack> Si2100, ANything is possible.
[20:21] <pgimeno> Pici: Thanks for your help last time, FYI the lack of complete descriptions was (unsurprisingly) caused by the mirror, e.g http://mirror.hetzner.de/ubuntu/packages/dists/oneiric/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz lacks them. Mystery solved and I'm now asking support to provide a new sources.list. Thanks again.
[20:21] <Si2100> syn-ack with Linux
[20:21] <guntbert> revtenhigh: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#How_do_I_resize_the_virtual_disks.3F
[20:21] <syn-ack> Cache_Money, I do that with VMware
[20:21] <Si2100> Cache_Money, Yes thatys Possible
[20:21] <ssta> revtenhigh: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1625371
[20:21] <Fyodorovna> revtenhigh, if you decide to transfer here is a link. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1519354
[20:21] <Si2100> Cache_Money, Works with Vmware and Virutalbox
[20:22] <revtenhigh> really? this says otherwise http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1625371
[20:22] <Cache_Money> si2100:  Can you help me set it up?  Or point me in the right direction?
[20:22] <Si2100> http://draptik.wordpress.com/2011/01/01/configure-virtualbox-windows-guest-system-to-use-2-monitors/
[20:22] <Si2100> There you goo
[20:22] <revtenhigh> i just cant get the commands to work right and i'm still a dos nerd, this is all new to me
[20:23] <Cache_Money> si2100:  awesome!  appreciate it..
[20:23] <Fyodorovna> revtenhigh, if your set on enlarging a unstable wubi I suggest posting in that thread and getting that users help they are on the forum daily.
[20:23] <Si2100> Cache_Money, I wanted to do it once with Vmware... Really usefull tool
[20:23] <guntbert> revtenhigh: did you try the wubi guide I sent you?
[20:23] <Cache_Money> si2100:  Does it matter that my host machine is Windows?
[20:23] <Fyodorovna> revtenhigh, few use wubi here the help is spotty at best.
[20:23] <ddosia> hello, is there some devices like ipad or xoom on which i could install ubuntu and use it as main os there?
[20:23] <Si2100> Cache_Money, Nop, should work either way
[20:23] <Cache_Money> sweet
[20:24] <goddard> can i unmount my home partition while running gparted?
[20:24] <Si2100> the Programs settings are the same,, you just need to enable the moniters in Ubuntu / Guest
[20:24] <Si2100> goddard, Dont think soo
[20:24] <revtenhigh> fyodorovna: thanks
[20:24] <Fyodorovna> goddard, not while you use it.
[20:24] <MonkeyDust> goddard  you can if you run gparted from a live cd
[20:25] <Fyodorovna> revtenhigh, no problem.
[20:25] <Si2100> goddard, you cant unmount it as its part of the system driv
[20:25] <Si2100> goddard, you cant unmount it as its part of the system drive
[20:25] <goddard> bummer
[20:25] <goddard> ok
[20:26] <Fyodorovna> goddard, you can use a usb flash for swap though.
[20:26] <Si2100> But why do you want to do it ?
[20:27] <revtenhigh> guntbert: yes i have looked that over, but i'm running into problems with fsck (step 4) no such file or directory
[20:27] <acicula> ddosia: theoretically all those devices should be able to, but they probably require a jailbreak to be able to change the os. Think i saw some news regarding ubuntu on tablets recently though
[20:27] <ssta> goddard: if it's a separate partition, then yes...
[20:27] <marsfligth> MonkeyDust: Thanks for the hnt. I never thought about before. So, now everything is resolved, just change, that's it. This is the power of the IRC ...
[20:27] <Pici> pgimeno: good to hear that it was that and not a problem on your own system.
[20:28] <ddosia> acicula: good answer. theoretically i could write all drivers myself and dont ask such questions here =)
[20:28] <revtenhigh> guntbert: i'm assuming my root.disk is not located in /media/win so how do i locate it?
[20:28] <Luke> does anyone know what the font renderer on gnome is called?
[20:29] <CFHowlett> Luke   font forge
[20:29] <Luke> CFHowlett: i'm looking for the package name
[20:29] <guntbert> revtenhigh: sorry, I have no idea, I never used wubi, was only looking up that docu just now :)
[20:30] <revtenhigh> lol right on
[20:30] <Luke> CFHowlett: oh I don't think thats what I'm looking for. I'm not trying to make fonts, I want to know what's responsible for rendering them on the gnome desktop
[20:31] <Si2100> To Google ?
[20:31] <acicula> ddosia: theoretically you could also google ubuntu and tablet and get the first hit on running ubuntu on a galaxy tab, argos or hp slate
[20:32] <CFHowlett> Luke   see http://askubuntu.com/questions/68022/how-to-fix-font-rendering-no-anti-aliasing-in-unity-global-menu-and-search
[20:32] <ssta> Luke: used to be called Pango in gnome2.  I dunno if that's still true for Gnome3
[20:32] <autojack> the Ubuntu daemontools-run package seems to configure daemontools to start on boot by adding a config file for it in /etc/init, but it doesn't actually start the service immediately. is there something I should do to make init notice the new entry and start the service?
[20:32] <darkhalo117> Hey
[20:33] <nooblikesgrapes> what irc client do you guys use?
[20:33] <KM0201> !poll
[20:34] <guntbert> autojack: you don't need daemontools, that functionality is built in
[20:34] <ddosia> acicula: i done this, but this is wired. It use vnc and virtual machine inside android!
[20:34] <guntbert> !iso | autojack
[20:34] <Luke> ssta: thanks
[20:34] <meerkats> in libreoffice I execute ctrl-p to print, seven minutes lasted from the moment the order was given till the machine started to print, memory leak? unity on ubuntu 11.10 3.0.17 kernel with CCSS problems
[20:34] <Luke> CFHowlett: yeah I know how to change rendering settings - but it's the letter spacing that's incorrect for me
[20:34] <yzhd> Anyone that could help me setting up lm-sensors ? (i need an app that can show cpu/pc temperature). I have searched and tried a lot. I failed, so I had to re install ubuntu.
[20:35] <nooblikesgrapes> My Xfce desktop background changes everytime I reboot, anyone knows why?
[20:35] <nooblikesgrapes> I'm on 11.10
[20:35] <autojack> guntbert: that's not the daemontools I am talking about :)
[20:35] <autojack> guntbert: http://cr.yp.to/daemontools.html
[20:35] <nooblikesgrapes> Also firefox opens by default
[20:35] <nooblikesgrapes> can't find any setting to stop opening programs by default at startup
[20:36] <guntbert> autojack: I see - sorry
[20:36] <MonkeyDust> nooblikesgrapes  there's a wallpaper set that changes dynamically, just use another
[20:36] <KM0201> nooblikesgrapes: you might have better luck in #xubuntu   xfce has some really strange quirks
[20:36] <nooblikesgrapes> no I set the wallpaper from a saved image
[20:36] <darkhalo117> Gnome > xfce
[20:36] <auronandace> KM0201: strange quirks?
[20:36] <nooblikesgrapes> it just changes back to default
[20:37] <KM0201> auronandace: if you've only used xfce4, you probably don't get it.
[20:37] <KM0201> previous incarnations were far superior.
[20:37] <nooblikesgrapes> and the programs that were last open start by itself, even after a hard reboot
[20:37] <Si2100> nooblikesgrapes... Logout and Login in?
[20:37] <nooblikesgrapes> No hard reboot
[20:37] <Si2100> nooblikesgrapes So youve dont a hard reboot
[20:37] <KM0201> nooblikesgrapes: there's a setting somewhere to disable that "feature
[20:37] <KM0201> "
[20:37] <nooblikesgrapes> Yes I shut down and started fresh
[20:38] <dansul> Hello.
[20:38] <Si2100> nooblikesgrapes and it still defaults
[20:38] <CFHowlett> dansul   greetings
[20:38] <nooblikesgrapes> There doesn't seem to be anything on "Startup and Sessions" menu
[20:38] <KM0201> yzhd: did you see that link on lm-sensors?
[20:39] <yzhd> km0201, please resend
[20:39] <douglaslucas> New to Linux & Ubuntu here. Is it acceptable to use bug trackers to request features & improvements?
[20:39] <KM0201> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[20:39] <MonkeyDust> !tab| yzhd
[20:39] <jrib> douglaslucas: usually, yes
[20:39] <nooblikesgrapes> Anyone have any idea how I cant stop starting programs I was last using by default?
[20:39] <douglaslucas> jrib: okay. The suggestions I have in mind are good ones; they're not flippant or anything
[20:39] <douglaslucas> jrib: thanks
[20:39] <CFHowlett> nooblikesgrapes   syste.>preferences>startup programs
[20:40] <jrib> douglaslucas: also see brainstorm.ubuntu.com
[20:40] <Si2100> MonkeyDust, Thanks for that tip
[20:40] <KM0201> boy some of you guyus need to get over yourself..lol
[20:40] <nooblikesgrapes> Yes I tried that there aren't any options that does it
[20:40] <Si2100> nooblikesgrapes,  So it keep defaulting ?
[20:40] <nooblikesgrapes> yes
[20:40] <Si2100> nooblikesgrapes, hmm strange, have you read up on it on google ?
[20:40] <nooblikesgrapes> and now the shortcut key I had assigned for the Application menu isn't working all of a sudden
[20:41] <nooblikesgrapes> GG linux
[20:41] <nooblikesgrapes> k working now
[20:41] <nooblikesgrapes> ..
[20:41] <Si2100> nooblikesgrapes, Strangeeee
[20:41] <nooblikesgrapes> Firefox gedit and terminal opened by default last time I botted
[20:41] <nooblikesgrapes> it's a nice feature sometimes but I can't find anyway to disable it
[20:42] <mody> hello
[20:42] <nooblikesgrapes> I have the automatically save session on logout unchecked too
[20:42] <nooblikesgrapes> it was never checked
[20:42] <Si2100> Evening mody
[20:42] <FunGoat> exit
[20:42] <mody> im in grub prompt now and when i run "root (hd0,0)" i get invalid device requested, how do i adjust accordinally as it says here root (hd0,0)
[20:43] <nooblikesgrapes> but I find two sets of menus for a lot of things, which I think is because I used a different session manager
[20:43] <Si2100> you sure its not hd0,1 ?
[20:43] <nbn> HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[20:43] <Si2100> Hello, nbn
[20:43] <nooblikesgrapes> maybe its checked in another set of menu thats hidding somewhere
[20:43] <nbn> CAN INSTALL WITHOUT LOSING OF DATA AND PERFORMACE AND VERY WELL TRACKING UBUNTU ON USB DRIVE
[20:43] <nbn> °°
[20:43] <Si2100> nooblikesgrapes, Check on ubuntu forums
[20:43] <CFHowlett> !caps|nbn
[20:43] <nbn> ^
[20:43] <FloodBot1> nbn: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:43] <nbn> Sorry my mistake
[20:43] <nbn> ^
[20:43] <nbn> ^^
[20:43] <Si2100> lol
[20:43] <Si2100> LOL
[20:44] <KM0201> nbn: what exactly is your question, that made no sense
[20:44] <nooblikesgrapes> I couldnt find anything
[20:44] <nooblikesgrapes> I'll try more
[20:44] <nbn> ^^KMO201: my question is usb drive
[20:44] <KM0201> nbn: what about it?
[20:44] <Si2100> nooblikesgrapes, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/775721
[20:44] <nbn> KMO201 plugged inb
[20:44]  * KM0201 sighs
[20:45]  * Si2100 asks why ??
[20:45] <nbn> wjy???
[20:45] <CFHowlett> KM0201   don't give up now!
[20:45] <nbn> why???
[20:45]  * KM0201 gets frustrated when asking for more info, only to be met with a 1 word response
[20:45]  * Si2100 Talk to meeee
[20:45] <nbn> why not
[20:45] <nbn> it is a usb drive is it not
[20:45]  * Si2100 knows the feeling
[20:45] <CFHowlett> nbn   what is your native language?
[20:45] <nbn> english
[20:45] <Pici> Si2100: Please stop that.
[20:46] <Si2100> Ughhh
[20:46] <nbn> well i plugged it in and want ubuntu install there
[20:46] <eLiam> can I disable the network manager?
[20:46] <nbn> eliam: i do not know if you can...do it or not
[20:46] <nooblikesgrapes> Thank you for the link but did you read the answers? Apparently the guy went grocery shopping and when he came back it was working fine
[20:46] <nooblikesgrapes> maybe I should go grocery shopping :)
[20:47] <auronandace> !usb | nbn
[20:47] <CFHowlett> nbn   read and follow directions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[20:47] <eLiam> sorry, that should have started 'how' :)
[20:47] <Si2100> nooblikesgrapes,  Yeah true it
[20:47] <canaima> hol
[20:47] <canaima> jbui
[20:47] <nbn> i plugged in my usb drive to install ubuntu there on it
[20:47] <nbn> ^
[20:47] <nbn> ^^
[20:47] <pengyang> does anyone know why OPenGL is not availabe after upgrading nvidia driver
[20:47] <nbn> i plugged in my usb drive to install ubuntu there on it
[20:47] <Pici> nbn: Please ask a complete question on one line. The '^' are not needed.
[20:48] <nbn> ok
[20:48] <nooblikesgrapes> Oh!! I think it's behaving like this because of the cache??
[20:48] <Pici> nbn: We still don't know what you are asking.
[20:48] <eLiam> how can I disable the network manager?
[20:48] <nooblikesgrapes> whats the command to clear the session cache? rm rf somethign?
[20:48] <KM0201> lol
[20:48] <nbn> Pici i want install ubuntu
[20:48] <nooblikesgrapes> I had a problem with panels and it was solved last week after I cleared cache
[20:48] <Si2100> nbn, ON a USB
[20:48] <mkultra_> hey i have that script to clear cache
[20:48] <nbn> yessssssssssss
[20:48] <mkultra_> hang on ill find it
[20:48] <Si2100> nooblikesgrapes, Try clearing it again ?
[20:48] <nbn> hehe
[20:49] <nbn> but not from usb
[20:49] <Pici> nbn: Have you looked at this link yet? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[20:49] <nbn> i mean on usb
[20:49] <mkultra_> i forgot my schools getting attacked right now
[20:49] <mody> Si2100: thanks it was 1, now when i run setup(hd0) it says cannot mount selected partition
[20:49] <nbn> yes i know how to do butttttttt
[20:49] <nbn> my question is if i lose my data performace and tracking ubuntu if i do
[20:49] <Pici> nbn: But what? We aren't psychic.
[20:49] <nbn> hehe
[20:49] <Si2100> mody, Have you mount HD0,0
[20:49] <xissburg> heh
[20:49] <Si2100> mody, Or even do you have a drive with H0,0
[20:49] <Pici> nbn: I don't know what "data performace and tracking ubuntu" means. Can you be more specific?
[20:50] <auronandace> nbn: what do you mean by tracking ubuntu?
[20:50] <mody> Si2100: dont know how to , yes i have 1 hard disk
[20:50] <nbn> that they can not phone me
[20:50] <Pici> nbn: who?
[20:50] <Si2100> mody, But how many partitions are there ?
[20:50] <nooblikesgrapes> I think nbn guy is trolling
[20:50] <nooblikesgrapes> ban the fucker
[20:50] <nbn> ubuntu
[20:50] <Pici> nooblikesgrapes: Mind your language.
[20:50] <mody> root(hd0,1) didnt give any error Si2100
[20:50] <nooblikesgrapes> sorry
[20:50] <Si2100> mody, hmmmm
[20:50]  * CFHowlett suspects trolling as well
[20:50] <mody> Si2100: 6 and one caled sdb
[20:50] <nooblikesgrapes> but I think this guy is trolling
[20:50] <Pici> nbn: There is no 'tracking'.
[20:50]  * eLiam me too
[20:51] <nbn> i heard that canonical phones home
[20:51] <nooblikesgrapes> or maybe he's just that stupid
[20:51] <Pici> nooblikesgrapes: And I'll be sure to kick him if he is.
[20:51] <CFHowlett> nbn   pleae paste a screenshot of what you're talking about
[20:51] <Si2100> mody, sbd is the Hardrive mount, so it would be sdb 1 /sdb 2/ sdb 3
[20:51] <eLiam> ok, more general q?  How do I disable an upstart job from starting at startup?
[20:51] <mody> its sda1 , sda2 etc up to sda6 Si2100
[20:51] <jrib> eLiam: read the upstart cookbook section on overrides
[20:52] <nooblikesgrapes> eliam: are you using Xfce?
[20:52] <Si2100> mody, Yeah
[20:52] <Gisterogue> Howdy folks. I'm sick and tired of Plesk so want to take the plunge and roll my own Ubuntu web server. The lamp side of things I'm fine with - I'm guessing I need more reading on DNS and mail, obviously I'll need to take the security in to account, can anyone suggest anything else, and maybe a decent book/set of tutorials that can head me in the right direction? This will be eventually production in a server farm, not just a home thing
[20:52] <mody> so now how i reinstall the grub i have it broken Si2100
[20:52] <jrib> eLiam: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#override-files
[20:52] <Si2100> mody, Are you duel booting ?
[20:52] <Si2100> mody, or just using ubuntu?
[20:52] <eLiam> jrib, cheers :)
[20:52] <nbn> why this -.-
[20:52] <nbn> asking a question and now answer -.-
[20:53] <mody> Si2100:  yes windows and ubuntu , today i recovered windows and it deleted my grub or messed it up now cant boot to anything except using livecd to get in terminal
[20:53] <kaytortuga> hey all, I'm working through this OTP intro article, currently on building releases: http://spawnlink.com/articles/an-introduction-to-releases-with-erlybank/index.html, and while I can make the boot script and start the system with the boot file, I can't make the tar.gz... I run the command to make the tar.gz from one directory, and it can't find the release file. I run it from another, and it can't find the boot
[20:53] <kaytortuga> file. Is there rhyme or reason to which directory to run the command from?
[20:53] <Si2100> So are you using Ubuntu or Windows ? right now ?
[20:53] <mody> need to get to my laptop for work :( and stuck there and cant get the grub to work
[20:53] <mkultra_> nooblikesgrapes,  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1769521
[20:53] <Pici> nbn: I still don't know what tracking you are talking about.
[20:53] <Si2100> mody, well here is the fix
[20:53] <Si2100> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2
[20:53] <CFHowlett> !paste| nbn please paste an image of the problem
[20:53] <mody> now im using another pc cause cant boot with mine
[20:54] <Si2100> mody, YOu need to get a Live CD
[20:54] <mody> Si2100: i have a usb with ubuntu
[20:54] <eLiam> jrib, so, "echo "manual" >> /etc/init/network-manager.override" for example?
[20:54] <nbn> Pici: tracking  = ubuntu phones me home
[20:54] <Pici> nbn: How?
[20:54] <jrib> eLiam: yes, that will do it
[20:54] <Si2100> mody, Cool just need to find you a tutorial on how to fix it
[20:54] <eLiam> jrib, ta :-)
[20:54] <nbn> Pici: with my telephone number
[20:54] <CFHowlett> nbn   ubuntu will not be calling you.  sorry.
[20:55] <nbn> CFHowlett, nooo why not
[20:55] <Pici> nbn: I'm afraid that is impossible.
[20:55] <CFHowlett> nbn   it doesn't.  it won't.  So, what is your next question.
[20:55] <nbn> but i read article
[20:55] <mody> Si2100: i found this describe my problem http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/reinstall-ubuntu-grub-bootloader-after-windows-wipes-it-out/
[20:55] <nbn> there stands it
[20:55] <CFHowlett> nbn   paste the link to the article
[20:55] <nbn> http://winfuture.de/news,57371.html
[20:55] <auronandace> nbn: you believe everything you read? i feel sorry for you
[20:56] <Si2100> mody, When i did it.. it required alot more than that... had to mount the main drive, and then install GRUB2 and then unmount and then reboot
[20:56] <Si2100> but you could try that and see what happens
[20:56] <nbn> +http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODQ5MA
[20:57] <mody> i tried , when i run setup(hd0)  i get cant mount selected partition
[20:57] <Pici> nbn: That article is from 2010.  That package no longer exists in Ubuntu.
[20:57] <nbn> noo???
[20:57] <nbn> good
[20:57] <nbn> and now my qujestion:
[20:57] <CFHowlett> nbn   this is an old article for a previous feature.  NO WHERE does it state that ubuntu will call you.  Dead issue.  Next?
[20:57] <nbn> can do i lose data my if i do
[20:57] <Pici> nbn: It was only in Lucid and Maverick, and in the partner repository at that: http://paste.ubuntu.com/904560/
[20:58] <Si2100> brb
[20:58] <nbn> in lucid it is ?? i use...
[20:58] <kaytortuga> which channel would be best for questions on building a release with systools?
[20:58] <nbn> i do not  want to lose my data
[20:58] <auronandace> !remaster | kaytortuga
[20:58] <CFHowlett> nbn   what are you doing that would risk your data?
[20:59] <nbn> i have to format usb if i want install havent i
[20:59] <nbn> ^
[20:59] <Pici> nbn: It is still optional in Lucid (I just checked it on my Lucid server install)
[20:59] <nbn> ^^
[20:59] <Pici> nbn: Stop using ^ after asking your questions. Last warning.
[20:59] <nbn> but if i format my usb my data are lost
[20:59] <CFHowlett> nbn   back up your data to someplace OTHER than your instllation USB
[21:00] <nbn> CFHowlett,  is this possbile?
[21:00] <nbn> i do not wnt to lose them
[21:00] <CFHowlett> nbn   ubuntuone or dropbox
[21:00] <autojack> so does anyone know how to restart init/upstart or make it notice that you have added a service to it?
[21:01] <ssfdre38> im getting an error on kdenlive saying im missing my MTL's SDL module, do you how i can get that via apt-get
[21:01] <nbn> Okayl ast question
[21:01] <nbn> Do i lose performance
[21:01] <jrib> autojack: umm, just start the service?  start SERVICE-NAME
[21:01] <ssta> autojack: service foo start?
[21:02] <nbn> do i lose performance
[21:02] <CFHowlett> nbn ??? Let's try again.  YOU say "Do I lose performance if I ...?  and fill in the blank so we konw what you're talking about.
[21:02] <nbn>  YOU say "Do I lose performance if I install ubuntu
[21:03] <ikonia> nbn: no, you will not lose performance
[21:03] <ssfdre38> no you dont, it speeds up your computer
[21:03] <nbn> no i meant usb
[21:03] <ikonia> ssfdre38: it will not speed up his computer
[21:03] <user_> What exactly is ubuntu one?
[21:03] <ssfdre38> ive seen it speed up my tower very nicely
[21:03] <nbn> ubuntu one is a desktop environment
[21:03] <user_> Do I need a client to use it? Or can I use it from shell?
[21:03] <ikonia> nbn: it will perform in the same way as your windows install or other operating system
[21:03] <nbn> i believe
[21:03] <CFHowlett> nbn   USB runs slower than installing to the hard drive.
[21:03] <nbn> ah okay
[21:03] <nbn> only install or always slower
[21:03] <ssfdre38> user_, its Ubuntu's cloud service
[21:03] <rtdos> what's the gnome command to add/remove users and change a users (advanced) permissions?
[21:04] <ssfdre38> and user_ the client is already installed, you just need to sign up for it
[21:04] <nbn> only install or always slower
[21:04] <CFHowlett> rtdos   system>administration>users and groups
[21:04] <ikonia> nbn: it will perform the same as your other OS's
[21:04] <nbn> well my question is
[21:05] <CFHowlett> nbn  running from USB is slower than running from harddrive
[21:05] <nbn> CFHowlett, only in install or also in use
[21:05] <CFHowlett> nbn  USB is slower in all cases.
[21:05] <ikonia> nbn: usb performs slower than a local disk, in all instances
[21:05] <nbn> oh shit
[21:05] <nbn> okay
[21:05] <ikonia> nbn: not acceptable lanaguage
[21:05] <nbn> and why should i install it on usb?
[21:05] <ddls-devbox> <3 Ubuntu. May I be adopted by the creator?
[21:05] <nooblikesorange> I can't find the Ubuntu One client on Xfce, I remember seeing it last time when I was running Unity
[21:06] <ikonia> nbn: install it where you want
[21:06] <CFHowlett> nbn   yes, why would you?
[21:06] <nooblikesorange> Nevermind found it, it's on Settings of all places
[21:06] <BrunoSousa> ok, sorry for the question (kind of a ubuntu newbie) but where can i see a list of open bugs for 12.04? and submit one if it isn't there?
[21:06] <nbn> CFHowlett, i wanted to do because i thought they have my telephonnumber on drive and can phone me
[21:06] <ikonia> BrunoSousa: you'll see them on launchpad.net
[21:07] <Guest3585> Hi everyone
[21:07] <CFHowlett> nbn   we've already been over that - not going to happen
[21:07] <nbn> yessssssssss
[21:07] <nbn> yesssssssss
[21:07] <BrunoSousa> ikonia: thanks
[21:07] <nbn> i know it
[21:07] <ssfdre38> BrunoSousa, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu
[21:07] <nbn> only wanted to tell you that THIS was the reason why installing on usb
[21:07] <nbn> yesssssssssss
[21:08] <rtdos> @CFHowlett: i'm not seeing it, anyway i can run it from the command line?
[21:08] <ikonia> nbn: ok - so now you know, install it where you want to
[21:08] <nbn> ok
[21:08] <nbn> yessssssss
[21:08] <Guest3585> Does anyone know how to change the default os from ubuntu to windows
[21:08] <CFHowlett> rtdos   sudo adduser IIRC
[21:08] <Shylenol> Hello, I am trying to set up a PXE server on ubuntu server. I followed this: http://tinyurl.com/ybgd89j and the client PC can connect but i get the file not found message. (understandable) I am using a winxp boot disk that is extracted but how do i know which file to tell it to boot first?
[21:08] <Shylenol> is their a standard filetype PCs look for?
[21:09] <zandt> I installed plot boot manager, and apparently I boinked GRUB, because now it only gives me the windows xp/plop boot manager screen when  I boot up instead of GRUB.... I'd like to either: fix grub or more preferably find a way to add my ubuntu instal to PLOP (my bios doesn't support USB booting,so PLOP is very useful)
[21:09] <nbn> can i asked other question
[21:09] <CFHowlett> rtdos   *wrong* sudo useradd <foo>
[21:09] <nbn> yesssssss
[21:09] <ssfdre38> im getting an error on kdenlive saying im missing my MTL's SDL module, do you how i can get that via apt-get if anybody can help out
[21:09] <nbn> whcihs version should i use
[21:09] <ikonia> nbn: which ever one you want to
[21:09] <nbn> 11.04 or 11.10 or what
[21:09] <ikonia> nbn: which ever one you want to
[21:10] <nbn> the best without unity
[21:10] <ikonia> nbn: they all have unity
[21:10] <CFHowlett> rtdos   see http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/add-a-user-on-ubuntu-server/
[21:10] <nbn> oh this is not good
[21:10] <CFHowlett> nbn   xubuntu lubuntu kubuntu ....
[21:10] <nbn> i hate unity
[21:10] <nbn> ok
[21:10] <ikonia> nbn: hi Lars
[21:10] <nbn> nbn: wrong username...
[21:11] <nbn> nbnb = norbertonorbert = norbert
[21:11] <nbn> * nbn
[21:11] <benQ> what are the requirements for xubuntu?
[21:11] <eLiam> anyone familiar with libvirt and vmware know why a vmware host would knock out the networking for a bunch of libvirt hosts on a local bridge (br0)?
[21:12] <CFHowlett> !xubuntu|benq
[21:12] <eLiam> ^ also asked in #vmware and #virt@OFTC but no joy at the moment.
[21:12] <mody> Si2100: still there?
[21:12] <Si2100> yeh
[21:13] <mody> tried many tuts none work
[21:13] <Si2100> BenQ, you could also install XFCE over Ubuntu
[21:16] <BrunoSousa> btw, any recommendation on external hdd filetype that is optimized for linux (ubuntu) but can at least be read (writing isn't important) in mac and windows?
[21:16] <spiralJunkie> o/
[21:16] <nooblikesorange> test1
[21:17] <nooblikesgrapes> test2
[21:17] <Si2100> BruceSousa Id use NTFS
[21:17] <angs> what is the use of "apt-get" on "sudo apt-get install git-core"?
[21:17] <Si2100> as Mac can Read it.. but not right to... Windows.. Need i explain and Ubuntu and Read and Wright
[21:17] <nooblikesorange> imo it downloads the installation data
[21:17] <Si2100> angs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Packaging_Tool
[21:18] <BrunoSousa> hmm as said earlier, ubuntu newbie :) so linux as nice support for ntfs?
[21:18] <darkhalo117> Openvpn is not initializing correctly. It says it doesn't have access to my bridged connection. Any pointers?
[21:18] <mkultra_> if your a mac probably look up mac ports
[21:18] <BrunoSousa> hack solutions on mac have ruined an hdd for me befora
[21:18] <nooblikesorange> what do you mean support? do you have any problems?
[21:18] <Si2100> BrunoSousa, Yeh, Seems nice
[21:18] <Si2100> If you want to write NTFS ona mac you need a 3rd Party Software
[21:19] <BrunoSousa> si2100: i know, or use some hidden settings on macos, but couldn't ever fgot it working right before
[21:19] <emerica> snow leo can write, but not enabled by default
[21:19] <BrunoSousa> but then again, only interested on reading on mac now so it shouldn't be a problem
[21:19] <mkultra_> you can mount ntfs or fat32
[21:20] <mkultra_> mac should be able to natively do it
[21:20] <Si2100> But NTFS can carry more gb than FAT32
[21:20] <Si2100> Mac can only Read NTFS... dont ask my why tho
[21:20] <emerica> see http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=20090913140023382
[21:20] <BrunoSousa> they can write
[21:20] <BrunoSousa> but it is not supported by default
[21:20] <emerica> ^^ true
[21:20] <BrunoSousa> or by apple
[21:20] <Si2100> and put Linux on it
[21:21] <BrunoSousa> and by experience, you don't want to use ntfs or exfat on mac for writing
[21:21] <BrunoSousa> it tends to f* up
[21:21] <spiralJunkie> hi yo, sorry if I'm too dumb/this is too basic
[21:21] <CFHowlett> spiralJunkie   ask away ...
[21:21] <emerica> ntfs has been ok here, just make sure you eject properly
[21:22] <emerica> or you will be asked to initialize the data back on a pc
[21:22] <Si2100> But though you only wanted Mac to readit
[21:22] <emerica> toasting your disk
[21:22] <spiralJunkie> first time away from windows, put ubuntu on laptop
[21:23] <CFHowlett> spiralJunkie   ... ok.  and?
[21:23] <Si2100> I got Ubuntu on my lapotop for past Year n a bit now
[21:23] <spiralJunkie> right
[21:23] <BrunoSousa> si2100 yep, only read from mac, so ill probably go with ntfs, thanks, was just saying that ntfs write on mac is a bit wobbly,
[21:23] <spiralJunkie> used yumi and an image I think I got from ubuntu site
[21:23] <spiralJunkie> install went well afaik, v fast
[21:24] <spiralJunkie> v pretty, etc etc
[21:24] <spiralJunkie> said it had to restart
[21:24] <spiralJunkie> so I restarted
[21:24] <Si2100> it wont Write natively,like i was saying u need 3rd party software
[21:24] <spiralJunkie> now I get the mmultiboot menu, choose ubuntu
[21:25] <spiralJunkie> command line login, which I can do
[21:25] <ssfdre38> what is the question?
[21:25] <spiralJunkie> what next?
[21:25] <ssfdre38> spiralJunkie, are you on the command line or desktop?
[21:26] <spiralJunkie> cmd line
[21:26] <spiralJunkie> I wasn't expecting it
[21:26] <spiralJunkie> I guess I thought it was gonna have a gui immediately
[21:26] <Si2100> what you installed ?
[21:26] <Si2100> Ubuntu Desktop or Server ?
[21:26] <ssfdre38> you got the server version that is why but its a quick fix just type sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[21:27] <spiralJunkie> oh
[21:27] <Si2100> its oKies
[21:27] <spiralJunkie> I'll try that ssfdre38 ty
[21:27] <spiralJunkie> just gotta kill a droid
[21:27] <Si2100> Nooo
[21:27] <ssfdre38> "These are not the droids your looking for"
[21:27] <Si2100> STAR WARS
[21:28] <spiralJunkie> it totally is the droid I'm looking for
[21:28] <Si2100> FTW
[21:28] <spiralJunkie> he's guarding an infinite respawn 4min chest
[21:28] <codazoda> Hi.  I'm typing my password to login to Oneric.  It's prompting, however, for my keyring password.  I'm not using auto login.  The passwords match (I reset them to match again to be sure).  Still, I'm getting the prompt.  Any ideas why?
[21:28] <CFHowlett> !ot everyone
[21:28]  * Si2100 that us now the droid you want
[21:28] <Si2100> codazoda, it should be the same, unless youve changed the ROOT
[21:30] <codazoda> Si2100, changed the root password?  My user, root, and keyring password are all the same.
[21:30] <spiralJunkie> ssfdre38 it says: ubuntu-desktop is already the newest version
[21:30] <spiralJunkie> among other things
[21:30] <Si2100> codazoda, thats the only think i can think of
[21:30] <Si2100> spiralJunkie, Download ubuntu Desktop then and install it ?
[21:30] <ssfdre38> then see sudo service unity start
[21:30] <spiralJunkie> ok
[21:30] <spiralJunkie> siI think I did
[21:31] <spiralJunkie> Si2100  *
[21:31] <Si2100> If you did, youd get a GUI LightDM login screen
[21:32] <Si2100> brb dudes
[21:32] <spiralJunkie> tight . now it saus unity:unrecognised service
[21:32] <codazoda> Yeah, so my user password, root password, and keyring password are all the same.  I'm logging in (not autologin) and it's making me type the password twice (once for the keyring).  Haven't been able to figure out why.
[21:32] <hmw> I installed myspell-de-de and aspell-de but Gedit still doesn't show German in "Tools / Set Language"... what do I have to do in order to get the spell checker?
[21:32] <spiralJunkie> says *
[21:32] <spiralJunkie> typo city here
[21:32] <ssfdre38> spiralJunkie, what did you download?
[21:33] <spiralJunkie> ubuntu-10.04.4-desktop-amd64.iso
[21:34] <mody> why would windows 7 recovery on a dual boot destroy ubuntu?
[21:34] <Si2100> bck
[21:34] <Myrtti> codazoda: if you indeed have a root password enabled, that alone can be a reason why things don't work as intended.
[21:34] <ssfdre38> if you want a LTS spiralJunkie, i would of waited for 10
[21:34] <ssfdre38> 12 i ment
[21:34] <mody> i have been working for 8 months on ubuntu and all my files  and projects are there and now lost everything...
[21:34] <mody> i'm almost crying...
[21:34] <Si2100> mody, the only thing it would remove is the grub sector
[21:34] <spiralJunkie> ssfdre38 I don't know what you just said
[21:34] <Logan_> !fixgrub | mody
[21:34] <KM0201> mody: because the recovery returns evverything to "factory default".... it probably nuked your U buntu partition
[21:35] <mody> i fixed it
[21:35] <Si2100> mody, you just need to reinstall GRUb
[21:35] <mody> i fixed grub
[21:35] <Si2100> all is not losted
[21:35] <KM0201> Si2100: thats not necessarily true.. its not a grub problem
[21:35] <Si2100> oww
[21:35] <mody> but before i fix grub i did ubuntu reinstall and it just installed ubuntu it didnt give me any options to overide my old one just acted there was no ubuntu
[21:35] <ssfdre38> spiralJunkie, i was trying to say is that i would of waited for the 12.04 LTS that is coming out in less then a month but how did you install 10.04
[21:35] <mody> and now in grub i see new ubuntu installation and windows :(
[21:35] <mody> where did my old ubuntu go?
[21:35] <KM0201> mody: because their wasn't an "old" ubuntu
[21:36] <skulltip> has anyone tried playing open arena in unity?
[21:36] <spiralJunkie> oh ok
[21:36] <mody> KM0201:  you mean windows deleted it?\
[21:36] <mody> its windows recovery on sony vaio
[21:36] <KM0201> mody: "old ubuntu" when away whyen you did the restore w/ the restore partition, the resttore partition, takes the machine to factory defaults, i'm assuming your machine was not dual booting from the factory
[21:36] <ssfdre38> spiralJunkie, how did you install Ubuntu?
[21:36] <spiralJunkie> I installed 10 because it's what was available. I don't think I know what an LTS is
[21:36] <mody> KM0201: yes it didnt come dual boot
[21:36] <ssfdre38> LTS - Long Term Support or 5 Years and not 18 Months
[21:37] <KM0201> mody: thus my point, you did a factory restore on the machine.... so... what did you think was going to happen?
[21:37] <mody> :(
[21:37] <mody> so sad day
[21:37] <KM0201> mody: no disrespect, you have only yourself to blame
[21:37] <ssfdre38> spiralJunkie, again how is it installed?
[21:37] <mody> windows sucks and so is ubuntu :(
[21:38] <spiralJunkie> how is it instsalled? as in, the process I went through?
[21:38] <mody> i wanted windows for photoshop
[21:38] <Si2100> Could of used a VM
[21:38] <mody> and wanted ubuntu for ssh mostly
[21:38] <spiralJunkie> downloaded the iso, used yumi to make a bootable usb stick
[21:38] <ddls-devbox> ^_^
[21:38] <mody> and now i think mac is best since it can run both
[21:38] <mody> im too sad
[21:38] <KM0201> mody: then use windows for photoshop and ubuntu ssh... you're comparing to unrelated issues, to your inability to understand what a factory restore does, it's not either OS's fault, its yours
[21:38] <JelloPop> mody: gimp and put tools to gimp from photoshop
[21:38] <ssfdre38> spiralJunkie, as in, dual boot, installed inside of windows, sole os
[21:38] <spiralJunkie> oh, ok
[21:38] <spiralJunkie> I think dual boot
[21:39] <Si2100> brb
[21:39] <mody> gimp sucks
[21:39] <spiralJunkie> but the only windows available at boot is win7 recovery
[21:39] <detrix42> when I bring up the printer control app, I see no way to get root permission.  And I am not sure what the name of the program is to gksudo in the terminal. What is the name of that app?
[21:39] <spiralJunkie> well
[21:39] <spiralJunkie> windows 7 (loader) is on there
[21:39] <mody> KM0201: how does windows reset things to factory and when it does a reboot while recovering it wont come back because of the grub problem
[21:39] <ssfdre38> spiralJunkie, you might need to redo the stick cause it might be corrupted
[21:40] <JelloPop> mody: Whatever get real.. No way all those tools and paint brushes would cost under 1000 dallors..U do now u can add to gimp?
[21:40] <spiralJunkie> I'll give that a crack
[21:40] <KM0201> mody: because grub is on the MBR of the drive, which the factory restore does not touch
[21:40] <KM0201> mody: if you had had grub on a separate /boot partition, rest assured, you'd have no clue at all that Ubuntu had ever been on that machine
[21:40] <meerkats> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download: Im making a live cd, in my case the options are for 32 and 64 bits: only the 32 bits appears as recommended: is it so because 64 bits is unstable or because it has recognized that my machine already uses 32 bits?
[21:40] <spiralJunkie> I guess I can remove the win 7 installation, just overwrite all tthings during ubuntu install?
[21:41] <ssfdre38> KM0201, it does touch it cause its formatting the hdd
[21:41] <ssfdre38> spiralJunkie, do you want win 7?
[21:41] <KM0201> ssfdre38: it can't format itself.
[21:41] <KM0201> it formats partitions, not the entire drive
[21:41] <agoodm> quick question, not sure which version of uk keyboard I have... my hash key is moved to abnormal place
[21:41] <agoodm> whats best way to quickly try layouts?
[21:41] <ssfdre38> trust me it can delete GRUB
[21:42] <cuddylier> How do I change the directory available to my ftp users? I am using vsftpd
[21:42] <JelloPop> mody: next time clonezilla, now you get to install ubuntu again how much fun! get to learn something new! have fun :)
[21:42] <cuddylier> Also how do I add users and add a password for them
[21:42] <KM0201> ssfdre38: i'm not saying *it can't*  i imagine it all depends on how the manufacturer sets up the restore process.... i've had experiences both ways, someitmes it does, sometimes it doesn't
[21:42] <spiralJunkie> ok ssfdre38 I'm reinstalling it now
[21:42] <ddls-devbox> I am amused by the problem who KM0201 is talking to.
[21:42] <angs> is there any command as "source" and "less" on ubuntu?
[21:42] <spiralJunkie> purple screen, ubuntu logo
[21:42] <spiralJunkie> shiny
[21:42] <ddls-devbox> I am also a bad person.
[21:42] <spiralJunkie> etc
[21:42] <mody> JelloPop: cant afford what i lost ...
[21:42] <mody> tens of projects and personals stuff
[21:42] <KM0201> ddls-devbox: ? i don't really get what you're saying, but i'm glad you're amused..lol
[21:42] <ssfdre38> spiralJunkie, do you just want Ubuntu on your system?
[21:43] <mody> i didnt get sad when my grand me passed away as much as im sad now
[21:43] <spiralJunkie> yes ssfdre38
[21:43] <ssfdre38> then spiralJunkie just re-format the entire HDD
[21:43] <spiralJunkie> ok, [erase and use the entire disk]
[21:43] <ddls-devbox> KM0201: I referenced "the problem" as a "who" which should imply that I am not aiming for the issue that someone does not grasp the concept of "restoration"... ;)
[21:43] <detrix42> how do I get administrator access to the printer setup app????
[21:44] <KM0201> ddls-devbox: oh ok..lol
[21:44] <ddls-devbox> :D
[21:44] <ssfdre38> detrix42, are you an admin on the system?
[21:44] <JelloPop> mody: What did it cost??? Hopefully u were backup your projects to external storage if it was that important!
[21:44] <detrix42> ssfdre38: yes
[21:44] <cuddylier> How do I change the directory available to my ftp users? I am using vsftpd
[21:45] <ssfdre38> detrix42, then its your uid login and your pass
[21:45] <KM0201> cuddylier: sudo nano /etc/vsftpd.conf
[21:45] <mody> i have never been as stupid as today JelloPop
[21:45] <KM0201> oh wait, nevermind.
[21:45] <ddls-devbox> KM0201: I call it the "type checked chat paradigm"
[21:46] <detrix42> ssfdre38: I have opened the printer app through the systems settings menu, but I can not make any changes. It did not ask me for my password. How do I get it to do that?
[21:46] <KM0201> mody: fear not, if you're that careless while restoring an OS, not reading documentation, etc.. you will have far darker days in dealing w/ computer probs
[21:46] <spiralJunkie> ok ssfdre38 the install process keeps telling me how easy ubuntu is designed to be. I got a bad feeling
[21:46] <JelloPop> mody: backups, backups, backups.. Only a feeling. It will pass.  I figure this is the first time using Linux.. Srry for the problems look up CloneZilla ita life saver.
[21:47] <KM0201> JelloPop: still only works if you actually "do the backup"
[21:47] <Tuna-Fish> This is a really daft question: after installing fglrx, where exactly does it put the catalyst control center binary?
[21:47] <KM0201> the easiest thing, build a nas, and store all data on network drives.
[21:47] <KM0201> lol
[21:47] <KM0201> then you cdan do anything you want to local machiens, and you won't lose important deata
[21:47] <KM0201> *data
[21:49] <JelloPop> KM0201: can they afford it the question. mody , needs us tell him to get back on the horse and ride it again.  Not scold him likes he's twelve.  mody Just do backups.
[21:50] <KM0201> JelloPop: i';m not scolding him, he's blaming ubuntu (and windows) for a PEBKAC issue.
[21:50] <mody> that was the biggest lesson ever
[21:50] <mrdeb> what lesson
[21:50] <KM0201> there you go..
[21:50] <KM0201> it's a hard one, but like i said, there will be harder in life, i promise
[21:51] <dorin> i have problem with flash on fullscreen, it goes so slow/ lag
[21:52] <angs> while a program update itself, the download get stucks, for example "Receiving objects:  18% (22540/125221), 8.66 MiB | 332 KiB/s  " it nevers continue to load
[21:52] <angs> what can I do to make it work?
[21:52] <luist> whats the download center executable name?
[21:52] <JelloPop> KM0201: Were is the warning from Ubuntu or any Linux Distro if you run Windows Recovery you may Destroy ur Ubuntu partition and u should run a Backup with CloneZilla.  I know we have a great community ,but u cant expect us to reach every user in time before they destory there data..
[21:53] <spiralJunkie> ok ssfdre38 sorry to monopolise you
[21:53] <ddls-devbox> I say: wget -P ~/Desktop/Stuff * | cp ~/Desktop/Stuff <path to backupdisk>
[21:53] <spiralJunkie> install done, wants to restart, doing that now
[21:54] <KM0201> JelloPop: you either are just ranting, or you're not reading what i'm writing, i'm not blaming ubuntu or windows, i'm blaming THE USER.  it's his fault, nobody elses
[21:54] <dorin> i updated flash player and flash plugin and i make this http://maketecheasier.com/play-youtube-video-fullscreen-youtube-video-in-ubuntu-maverick-10-10-try-this-fix/2010/11/10
[21:54] <dorin> but nothing
[21:54] <dorin> can anybody help?
[21:54] <ddls-devbox> Im blaming KM0201
[21:54] <ddls-devbox> Henceforth known as 'The User'
[21:54] <KM0201> ddls-devbox: lol
[21:55] <ddls-devbox> Im useless in a chatroom.
[21:56] <JelloPop> KM0201: Well this is a help forum. Im not going to debate this! Have a good day :) !
[21:57] <spiralJunkie> well shit
[21:57] <KM0201> JelloPop: i didn't say it wasn't a help forum..., and there's no point in debating, you'll lose.
[21:57] <Si2100> what
[21:57] <spiralJunkie> said restart, it's just hanging on a background image
[21:58] <justus> hi
[21:58] <angs> while a program update itself, the download get stucks, for example "Receiving objects:  18% (22540/125221), 8.66 MiB | 332 KiB/s  " it nevers continue to load. what can I make it continue?
[21:59] <justus> um, I got a pretty strange problem that is in all likelyhood driver related: When my screen brightness setting passes a certain value the screen starts to flicker madly (the brightness changing repidly)
[21:59] <Tuna-Fish> angs: is your disk full?
[21:59] <justus> it is allright in low settings but as soon as I get above the second level it starts the flickerdance ;)
[21:59] <JelloPop> KM0201: Lose a silly arguement! lol
[21:59] <angs> Tuna-Fish: no I have enough space and there is no problem with my connection
[22:01] <Wiz_KeeD> if i connect to a box using ssh, what is the easiest way of downloading 2 folders from that box?
[22:01] <KM0201> JelloPop: i'm not the one who felt so passionate about as to correct someone when I didn't know what i was talking about.
[22:01] <mrdeb> when is ubuntu beta 2 out
[22:01] <angs> maybe the internet source that the program updates have a problem, but I dont know what I can do
[22:01] <ddls-devbox> angs: if it hasnt completed the download, why not just restart?
[22:01] <spiralJunkie> ok  ssfdre38 installing again seems to have worked
[22:02] <angs> I did twice control C then start it again, but it always stuck at the same point
[22:02] <spiralJunkie> I have a desktop with icons'n'shit
[22:02] <spiralJunkie> tyvm
[22:02] <ssfdre38> spiralJunkie, cool jsust run the updates
[22:02] <zandt> I installed plop boot manager... accidentally boinked GRUB so I can't back to ubuntu without the LIVEUSB. how should I go back fixing it? (within the liveusb)
[22:02] <pangolin> spiralJunkie, Please don't swear in here
[22:02] <angs> it worked on the third time:)
[22:03] <ddls-devbox> angs: and there was celebration and nudeness. We are all pleased.
[22:03] <JelloPop> KM0201: That is not my point! lol... drama ... when were there is none !
[22:03] <angs> thanks :)
[22:03] <ddls-devbox> angs: that is what I tell girls. "IT WILL WORK THE THIRD TIME!"...
[22:03] <spiralJunkie> dunno ssfdre38 I gotta get an internet connection first
[22:03] <KM0201> JelloPop: then why do you keep harping on the subject?
[22:03] <ddls-devbox> They do believe me.
[22:03] <ddls-devbox> ask KM0201
[22:04] <KM0201> lol
[22:04] <angs> hehehe
[22:04] <ddls-devbox> KM0201: I have choosen you. You are my pokemon.
[22:05] <angs> :D
[22:05] <JelloPop> look came here to ask question not debate.. SO I was wanting to know sense the update to unity is the desktop enviroment running better have the issues gone away from the desktop being a more functional peice!
[22:06] <cuddylier> When I use sudo nano /etc/vsftpd.conf how do I see all the lines?
[22:06] <jimcak234> hi, im new, im reading this book, it says "Set NIC 2 to have a static IP address of 172.168.1.1 /24." how do i do that?
[22:06] <cuddylier> And where in that config does it say about a password for users
[22:06] <jrib> cuddylier: you mean, how to scroll?
[22:06] <cuddylier> Yeah
[22:06] <jrib> cuddylier: you just hit down
[22:06] <JelloPop> peice = enviroment
[22:06] <cuddylier> All the lines dont show even scrolling
[22:06] <jrib> cuddylier: down arrow
[22:06] <cuddylier> Ohhh
[22:06] <cuddylier> Thanks
[22:07] <cuddylier> Also, in the config it doesn't mention about passwords for the ftp users
[22:07] <ddls-devbox> lol
[22:07] <cuddylier> How do I set a password?
[22:07] <ddls-devbox> I love this place.
[22:07] <JelloPop> srry should have used puncucation ops... run on sentences.. ouch
[22:07] <cuddylier> Also, how do I save it when I'm done?
[22:07] <KM0201> JelloPop: unity opinions vary widely.... personally, i think its unfixable, so my answer to you would be no, its not fixed
[22:07] <ddls-devbox> Its full of joy and amazment.
[22:07] <KM0201> cuddylier: set a password for what?
[22:08] <jrib> cuddylier: you can search with ctrl-w, you can exit with ctrl-x, you can save with ctrl-o (though exiting will prompt you to save as well).  As for the password, you'll have to consult vsftp's docs
[22:08] <ddls-devbox> cuddylier: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/nano-basics-guide.xml
[22:08] <cuddylier> I have looked at vsftp's docs
[22:08] <KM0201> cuddylier: what exactly are you trying to do?
[22:08] <ddls-devbox> cuddylier: I found it using the internet machine.
[22:09] <cuddylier> I want to add users to the ftp server and give them passwords
[22:09] <JelloPop> KM0201: Currently using LinuxMint.  Not sure even cinnamon, gnome-shell or unity are a good replacement for gnome 2 :(
[22:09] <ddls-devbox> KM0201: I ask you this! What are your credentials to answer all these innocent persons questions? Tell me now!
[22:10] <KM0201> ddls-devbox: no credentials, just learned by the school of hard knocks.
[22:10] <ddls-devbox> Ill tell your mom you watch text all nights.
[22:10] <cuddylier> I still cant find how to give users passwords :(
[22:10] <KM0201> cuddylier: what are you trying to do... giving users passwords is a fairly simple process, but i thought your problem was with vsftpd
[22:10] <cuddylier> Yeah, with vsftpd
[22:11] <ddls-devbox> KM0201: that could be an answer to the question "why should I hire you as an exotic dancer?". I like you.
[22:11]  * ddls-devbox stares into the distant
[22:11] <KM0201> cuddylier: well, vsftpd uses the username passwords.. so if user1's password is aaa, then his ftp password will be aaa
[22:12] <ddls-devbox> cuddylier: http://linux-hacks.blogspot.se/2008/09/adding-new-users-to-vsftpd.html
[22:13] <Wiz_KeeD> if i connect to a box using ssh, what is the easiest way of downloading 2 folders from that box?
[22:13] <KM0201> ddls-devbox: thats a long and convoluted way to go about it.
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> Wiz_KeeD: there is no best, I suggest you connect to the SSHfS using nautilus and you can download stuff that way
[22:13] <ejv> Wiz_KeeD: Filezilla client, using SFTP, is the easiest way.
[22:13] <cuddylier> How do I change my ubuntu password?
[22:14] <ddls-devbox> KM0201: I just found this thing called Gogol. Its amazing.
[22:14] <cuddylier> If I change my ubuntu password, would it change the ftp account password too?
[22:14] <KM0201> cuddylier: affirmative
[22:14] <Wiz_KeeD> no other easier way?
[22:14] <ejv> Wiz_KeeD: there's also WinSCP which I'm quite fond of.
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> cuddylier: to change your password, run:  passwd
[22:14] <ejv> Wiz_KeeD: we're talking like 10 seconds of configuration. doesn't get much easier than that.
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> Wiz_KeeD: what can be easier than nautilus?
[22:14] <KM0201> cuddylier: easiest thing to do, is create a user, that is only for ftp access... ("ftpuser").. then put any files for the ftp server, int hat users home folder.
[22:14] <JelloPop> ejv: that sounds like a college question I imagine that is not the right answer because there using a unix system :)
[22:14] <Wiz_KeeD> i was thinking something directly from the terminal
[22:15] <cuddylier> Yeah..I kinda need the files on this user, might be easier
[22:15] <KM0201> cuddylier: if anyone starts being a douche (ie, uploading porn to your FTP, or whatever) just change that usernames password... problem solved
[22:15] <ActionParsnip> !scp
[22:15] <cuddylier> Okay
[22:15] <goddard> ok so made my swap bigger maybe I can use the hibernate function now
[22:15] <ddls-devbox> KM0201: uploading porn is not being a douche. Its saving you time find it.
[22:15] <KM0201> cuddylier: thats how i've always ran my FTP, it works fine for me
[22:16] <goddard> any idea why my toolbar icons disappear ? does it have something to do with docky?
[22:16] <cuddylier> I just tried connecting to my ftp, it wont connect...What port is default?
[22:16] <KM0201> cuddylier: 21
[22:16] <JelloPop> Wiz_KeeD: could try commandlinefu.com
[22:16] <cuddylier> k
[22:17] <ddls-devbox> I never get to ask questions in these channels. Its making me sad. Its such a nice place.
[22:17] <FernandoCueva> hey I need to access my floppy disk on ubuntu 10.04 how to? the file system is unknown
[22:17] <KM0201> did you forward port 21 on the router? (or if you're on the same network... you can just connect to the local IP)
[22:17] <cuddylier> It worked :)
[22:17] <cuddylier> Thanks
[22:17] <FernandoCueva> that was a noob question tou
[22:17] <ddls-devbox> You are welcome cuddylier. I did all I could for you.
[22:17] <rallias_> Is it possible to chown a file to a user and a group that user isn't a part of?
[22:18] <panzon> hi
[22:18] <ddls-devbox> hi
[22:18] <ejv> rallias_: that question makes little to no sense
[22:18] <panzon> do you know how to change gnome to xfce ?
[22:18] <KM0201> cuddylier: if you use you're on the network, you can use the local IP, and you don't need to open/forward a port
[22:18] <cuddylier> I've got a dedicated server and it works remotely on my main pc :)
[22:19] <ddls-devbox> No. I just say 'hi', and harass KM0201.
[22:19] <Myrth> hi, i've just installed ubuntu from livecd, but i was required to insmod driver for boot ssd. how do i add drivers to permanent installation so they will be loaded before boot? thanks
[22:19] <KM0201> cudd OK
[22:19] <rallias_> ejv let me rephrase it. I have a file chmodded to 0750. The user is derp. The group is the same group that PHP-FastCGI runs under. Derp is not part of that group. Is that allowed, or will it cause complications?
[22:19] <neeze> can anyone help me with torrents
[22:19] <FernandoCueva> is there a wey I can change the language of ubuntu once installed
[22:19] <KM0201> FernandoCueva: of course
[22:20] <ddls-devbox> panzon: To run xfce just log out of gnome and there will be an option on the log in screen to log into xfce.
[22:20] <KM0201> FernandoCueva: this is kind of old, but it should work..  http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/17528/change-the-user-interface-language-in-ubuntu/
[22:21] <ejv> rallias_: if you set strange ownership privileges, ubuntu is not going to question you.
[22:21] <rallias_> mmk
[22:21] <JelloPop> ddls-devbox: I think its that handle ur using as a name. Srry cuddylier sounds so much more like a soft bear I can cuddle with. then ur name sounds like a ubuntu package
[22:21] <OerHeks> Myrth i edit /etc/fstab to add discard,noatime
[22:21] <JelloPop> ddls-devbox: lol
[22:21] <cuddylier> lol#
[22:21] <ddls-devbox> JelloPop: I dont want you talking about my package. I feel naked and ashamed as it is.
[22:21] <cuddylier> Last question, how do I change the directory the user "ryan" has access to?
[22:22] <cuddylier> Where in the config file?
[22:22] <KM0201> cuddylier: on the FTP?
[22:22] <cuddylier> yeah
[22:22] <JelloPop> ddls-devbox: I see we got comedians in here :)
[22:22] <KM0201> cuddylier: thats kind of a disadvantage of the way FTP servers work.. to my knowledge, when you jail a user, they are jailed to their home folder (i looked extensively into this)... so either, they have total, unsecured access to the drive, or they are jailed to the home folder
[22:23] <ddls-devbox> JelloPop: You would develop a humoristic side as well if you were locked into a faraday cage for two days doing neuroscience on ferrets.
[22:23] <KM0201> cuddylier: thats why i created a user, and anything on the FTP, goes in that users home folder,
[22:23] <cuddylier> Oh.. okay..I only have access to home folder atm
[22:23] <cuddylier> Also, when I try to edit a file, it says "permission denied"
[22:23] <KM0201> cuddylier: thats how you should have it to be truthful.
[22:23] <KM0201> cuddylier: hwat file?
[22:23] <cuddylier> Like a file on ftp
[22:23] <cuddylier> Using filezilla
[22:23] <ddls-devbox> Not a file to get out of jail?
[22:23] <cuddylier> I tried renaming a file
[22:24] <ddls-devbox> Like the one Im using to get out of this faraday cage.
[22:24] <panzon> ddls-devbox: i just see  Ubuntu and Ubuntu 2D I don't seee anything about xfce
[22:24] <KM0201> cuddylier: that question isn't really making much sense
[22:24] <KM0201> panzon: did you install xfce?
[22:24] <cuddylier> I logged into the ftp account on Filezilla, I tried to rename a file and it said "Permission Denied"
[22:24] <panzon> no
[22:24] <cuddylier> Or even deleting a file or anything, it wont allow me
[22:24] <KM0201> panzon: well, thats why its not there
[22:24] <nathaneltitane> hello guys: can I use dd and /dev/zero to nuke an sdcard that refuses to function on my android?
[22:24] <KM0201> cuddylier: ok...
[22:24] <ddls-devbox> :D
[22:25] <OerHeks> nathaneltitane, sure
[22:25] <panzon> no, at first I install the regular distribution, then I wrote apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[22:25] <KM0201> panzon: ok
[22:25] <nathaneltitane> any block size to specify?
[22:26] <pupuser66d36a> i have a failed hibernate ... won't reboot and does not even get to grub (though i can boot off livecd ... how to get it booting again?
[22:26] <ddls-devbox> You could say that after the ferret and my lab partner stopped answering, I came here.
[22:26] <cuddylier> How would I allow the ftp account to edit files rather than just look at them?
[22:26] <KM0201> cuddylier: did you allow read/write access, in vsftpd.conf?
[22:27] <cuddylier> What part is it in the config? I'm looking through it atm
[22:27] <KM0201> cuddylier: you should see a spot that says something like    #WRITE_ENABLE=YES" or something like that...
[22:27] <BobMarley> hi
[22:27] <cuddylier> let me see
[22:27] <BobMarley> which is the command to see the registers value?
[22:27] <BobMarley> intel cpu
[22:28] <panzon> so, the only way to run xfce is to download a xubuntu and re install everything??
[22:28] <angs> if I do not use ubuntu for 5 min or so, it locks itself and each time I need to type the password to unlock it. how can I disable this annoying setting or set a longer time for locking?
[22:28] <cuddylier> Do I need to restart the ftp server for the changes to take affect?
[22:28] <BobMarley> angs, go to settings screensaver
[22:29] <Myrth> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 Internal Server Error ?
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> panzon: you can install xfce4 package and get xfce
[22:29] <KM0201> cuddylier: yes    service vsftpd stop   wait 5sec, service vsftpd start
[22:29] <Fyodorovna> panzon, should run xubuntu, did you choose it from the login?
[22:29] <angs> BobMarley, thanks bob
[22:30] <KM0201> if you want light, just skip xfce, and go lxde... xfce is almost as bloated as KDE nowdays
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> cuddylier: if you use sftp, it will use the Linux permissions already in the OS
[22:30] <panzon> but I get no options on the start up
[22:30] <cuddylier> What is sftp?
[22:30] <panzon> it said Ubuntu and Ubuntu 2d
[22:30] <ddls-devbox> Ok, I have a question. I have connected to my lab partner through a series of tubes. Now he wont kill the connection. Can I resolve this conflict?
[22:30] <cuddylier> Still permission denied :(
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> panzon: click the cog next to your username on the login  screen
[22:31] <KM0201> cuddylier: i think its just another ftp protocol
[22:31] <Fyodorovna> panzon, use nics please, did you click on the gear?
[22:31] <KM0201> cuddylier: in a terminal type this   sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[22:31] <cuddylier> I got this error when I stopped the ftp thing http://pastebin.com/wYEGSiJj
[22:31] <panzon> when I click that option I look ubutu and ubuntu 2d
[22:31] <KM0201> cuddylier: pastebin the contents of your vsftpd.conf
[22:32] <pupuser66d36a> having probs rebooting after failed hibernate
[22:32] <Wiz_KeeD> oh so nautilus is the equivalent of windows explorer
[22:32] <ActionParsnip> panzon: did you install the xfce4 package?
[22:32] <Fyodorovna> panzon, ands you ran sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desk top correct?
[22:32] <ActionParsnip> Wiz_KeeD: yes its the default file manager
[22:33] <Wiz_KeeD> nice
[22:33] <Wiz_KeeD> it worked, really well
[22:33] <Wiz_KeeD> thanks guys
[22:33] <ddls-devbox> np
[22:33] <Wiz_KeeD> twas so easy
[22:33] <FloodBot1> Wiz_KeeD: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:33] <ddls-devbox> :]
[22:33] <Wiz_KeeD> hah
[22:33] <ddls-devbox> why only three FloodBots?
[22:33] <JelloPop> ActionParsnip: Is there a way see  the current frame rate, frame size and resolution  on a video using ffmpeg? Looked all over internet and most sites say u have to use common sense!
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> Wiz_KeeD: if you add it as a bookmark, it will make access easier later
[22:34] <Wiz_KeeD> the last connection?
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> JelloPop: I believe mencoder cando it
[22:34] <cuddylier> How do I paste it here when It's on my dedicated server?
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> Wiz_KeeD: yes in the global menu, you can make the bookamrk there
[22:34] <Wiz_KeeD> ah just as i made to my www folder and some others
[22:34] <Wiz_KeeD> sweet
[22:34] <Wiz_KeeD> hopefully i won't need to scavange for old files anymore
[22:34] <KM0201> cuddylier: on the server    sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[22:34] <JelloPop> ActionParsnip: Then which is better to use to convert video? mencoder or ffmpeg?
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> JelloPop: http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/view/2207/get-video-information-with-ffmpeg
[22:35] <cuddylier> Then after I installed that?
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> JelloPop: neither is better, both are different
[22:35] <panzon> Fyodorovna: no, I just install xubuntu-desktop
[22:35] <Decksmasher> hi guys  im using the new ubuntu 11.04 but i really want the old look back. can somebody tell me what i neeed to downlod to do this..thanks
[22:35] <KM0201> cuddylier: after pastebinit installs    type this     pastebinit /etc/vsftpd.conf      it will take a second, then give you a link.. give me the link
[22:35] <douglaslucas> I type up documents in Leafpad, then save them in LibreOffice as .DOCs. Everything looks fine, but when I reopen the .DOCs, there are two extra carriage returns between paragraphs. Anybody have an idea what's going on?
[22:35] <cuddylier>  http://paste.ubuntu.com/904680/
[22:36] <panzon> ActionParsnip do I need to install also that package also if I already install xubuntu-desktop?
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> panzon: it should be included if you installed taht
[22:36] <Fyodorovna> panzon, not sure why it does not show in the login then, it should.
[22:36] <pupuser66d36a> i have a failed hibernqate which now wont reboot though i can boot off livecd hence 'pupuser' .... but cant gett 11.100 to reboot
[22:37] <JelloPop> ActionParsnip: would have never figure that would have been in commandlinefu ? What exaclty is this commandlinefu site for?
[22:37] <panzon> also I want to uninstall gnome-desktop
[22:37] <granger> Hey, I have to increase the size of my root partition. I'm thinking of just taking my swap space and tacking it on, because I have 8 gigs of ram and don't see the need for the swap space. What is the best way to do this? My partitions are like this: 10 gig root, 8 gig swap, 450 or so gigs for my /home
[22:37] <JelloPop> ActionParsnip: thanks for the help :)
[22:37] <FernandoCueva> I have a question
[22:37] <panzon> maybe it will solve the problem
[22:37] <Fyodorovna> Decksmasher, we went through this already gnome 2 is gone.
[22:38] <FernandoCueva> what does mformat: init: set default params    means
[22:38] <ssfdre38> Decksmasher, if you really want it, install 10.04.04 LTS
[22:38] <xissburg> I installed zsh in my Ubuntu at Linode but it won't load when I conned thru ssh. Do I have to reboot the vm?
[22:39] <KM0201> cuddylier: you still there?
[22:39] <cuddylier> Yeah
[22:39] <Decksmasher> ok thanks.....i just thought there might have been some thing i could download to get the 4 desktops back
[22:39] <cuddylier> I pased the link
[22:39] <cuddylier> Here's it again http://paste.ubuntu.com/904680/  KM0201
[22:39] <KM0201> cuddylier: try typing this at the end of that file...  chroot_local_user=YES
[22:39] <ssfdre38> Decksmasher, look on the right for the icon of the 4 desktops
[22:39] <KM0201> cuddylier: yeah i saw it.. yours looks nothing like mine
[22:39] <cuddylier> :(
[22:39] <ssfdre38> i mean left
[22:39] <cuddylier> Add that at the end of the config?
[22:40] <KM0201> cuddylier: affirmative
[22:40] <KM0201> cuddylier: then stop/start the service again
[22:41] <Decksmasher> ssfdre38 i cant find them?  mouse click right?
[22:41] <cuddylier> http://pastebin.com/Z5jGLc5L
[22:42] <Adrian_23> Hola
[22:42] <cuddylier> And still no permission after even saving file
[22:42] <KM0201> cuddylier: you need to use sudo
[22:42] <ssfdre38> Decksmasher, no just look at the left of the screen at the dock above the trash can and you will see the button to press
[22:42] <cuddylier> Ohhh
[22:42] <KM0201> ..
[22:42] <KM0201> cuddylier: sudo service vsftpd stop
[22:42] <KM0201> sudo service vsftpd start
[22:42] <ddls-devbox> sudo answer my question
[22:43] <cuddylier> Now I cant connect to the ftp server anymore :(
[22:43] <KM0201> cuddylier: you should check out OMV for your server... it's pretty slick (i like it anyway)
[22:43] <cuddylier> I typed both commands
[22:43] <cuddylier> OVH?
[22:43] <KM0201> cuddylier: give it a few second
[22:43] <KM0201> cuddylier: OMV
[22:43] <Decksmasher> ssfdre88 sorry i already new that was there. i wanted to put them in to the bar across the bottom or top.
[22:43] <cuddylier> Oh..
[22:43] <KM0201> cuddylier: openmediavault.org
[22:43] <qubit[0|1]> hmm, trying to use wkhtmltopdf, its saying cannot connect to X server, this is a headless web server, whats that thing I can install again that emulates X ?
[22:43] <cuddylier> What is it
[22:43] <qubit[0|1]> or do I need X ?
[22:44] <ssfdre38> Decksmasher, yea that you would need to install ubuntu 10.04.04 LTS for
[22:44] <cuddylier> And server is down now :S
[22:44] <cuddylier> Eventhough the process is running
[22:44] <KM0201> cuddylier: did you restart it?
[22:44] <KM0201> hmm
[22:44] <cuddylier> Yeah
[22:44] <cuddylier> I did those two commands
[22:44] <ssfdre38> cuddylier, what happens when you type sudo service vsftpd start
[22:44] <dorin> ddls-devbox! which question?
[22:45] <KM0201> it says it starts
[22:45] <cuddylier>  vsftpd start/running, process 7814
[22:45] <ddls-devbox> dorin: the one about me and my lab partners connection through a series of tubes and he wont kill the connection and I want to resolve the conflict.
[22:45] <ssfdre38> cuddylier, try using the ip address as the hsot
[22:45] <ssfdre38> host*
[22:45] <Decksmasher> ssfdre88 well thanks i wont be doing that, i just need to get used to it, i dont care about compize but parts off it just need time i think.
[22:45] <cuddylier> It doesnt work either
[22:46] <KM0201> i dunno, that is weird, cuz mine is working fine
[22:46] <pupuser66d36a> hibernate has failed .... how can i reboot .... can no longer see grub menu but can boot of livecd
[22:46] <gmachine_24> Can someone do the pastebin bot for me please, I'm having a problem with a network share that until I set up ssh ran fine. More details in the pastebin. Thanks.
[22:46] <cuddylier> Connection attempt failed with "ECONNREFUSED - Connection refused by server".
[22:46] <KM0201> cuddylier: what are you putting in filezilla toc onnect?
[22:46] <cuddylier> Same as before when it worked
[22:47] <cuddylier> Apart from the permissions
[22:47] <gmachine_24> !pastebin
[22:47] <Decksmasher> ssfdre88..does it run fluxbox ok or not.?
[22:47] <xissburg> I installed zsh in my Ubuntu at Linode but it won't load when I conned thru ssh. Do I have to reboot the vm?
[22:47] <ssfdre38> Decksmasher, its ssfdre38 not ssfdre88
[22:48] <qubit[0|1]> xvfb is what the fake X is called, just fyi
[22:48] <KM0201> cuddylier: that just doesn't make any sense
[22:48] <Decksmasher> sorry ssfdre38
[22:48] <cuddylier> I know :(
[22:48] <KM0201> cuddylier: pastebinit /etc/vsftpd.conf   again please
[22:49] <ddls-devbox> KM0201 and cuddylier, when in doubt, check the permissions out.
[22:49] <cuddylier> http://paste.ubuntu.com/904696/
[22:49] <cuddylier> I dont have a clue about permissions
[22:49] <KM0201> ddls-devbox: permissions really shouldn't be an issue foor this... but... thats next
[22:49] <ddls-devbox> 78% of all problems in a Linux environment is due to permission problems. Think about that KM0201.
[22:50] <KM0201> lol, and 85% of statistics are pure BS
[22:50] <KM0201> cuddylier: ok, do this    cd /home
[22:50] <qubit[0|1]> KM0201++
[22:50] <KM0201> then      ls -l | pastebinit
[22:50] <ddls-devbox> KM0201: BS as in Brilliant Statistics!
[22:51] <cuddylier> http://paste.ubuntu.com/904699/
[22:51] <KM0201> cuddylier: do this in /home please
[22:51] <KM0201> cd /home
[22:51] <cuddylier> http://paste.ubuntu.com/904700/
[22:52] <KM0201> cuddylier: is ryan the one you're tryign to get on the FTP with?
[22:52] <cuddylier> Yeah
[22:52] <KM0201> man, i'm at a total loss here
[22:53] <KM0201> cuddylier: try creating a user, "just" for FTP, and see if that works... cuz i think its something weird with "ryan"
[22:53] <hnsz> Hi. Where do I put my wpa_supplicant.conf?
[22:53] <cuddylier> I'll have to do that tomorrow, got to go to bed.
[22:53] <cuddylier> Thanks for your help.
[22:53] <ddls-devbox> KM0201: you shouldn't listen to my statistics. I invent statistics 80% of the time to sound 100% more educated.
[22:53] <KM0201> cuddylier: ok.
[22:53] <KM0201> ddls-devbox: and at least 93% of the time, it's pretty entertaining
[22:53] <gr33n7007h> hnsz, /etc/wpa_supplicant/*.conf
[22:54] <ddls-devbox> KM0201: Its good to hear. All I say is for you, dear pokemon.
[22:55] <hnsz> gr33n7007h: Thanks. I did already put it there and expected it to load automagically on  ifup <interface> but it doesnt. I have to do it manually.
[22:55] <ddls-devbox> KM0201: Do you eat your snickers with cutlery?
[22:55] <KM0201> ok, fellas, i gotta get ready for work
[22:55] <KM0201> see you all later
[22:56] <ddls-devbox> T_T
[22:56] <hnsz> ddls-devbox: I eat the baby with the bathwater
[22:56] <KM0201> take care ddls-devbox nice chat.
[22:56] <Fyodorovna> !ot | ddls-devbox
[22:56] <gr33n7007h> hnsz, put it in startup folder
[22:56] <trism> hnsz: in /etc/network/interfaces you need to specify the path to wpa_supplicant.conf for the interface with wpa-conf /path/to/wpa_supplicant.conf
[22:56] <ddls-devbox> KM0201: thx, dito.
[22:56] <ddls-devbox> Fyodorovna: sry. Ill migrate myself.
[22:56] <gmachine_24> This is re: my network share/permissions problem on music server ---- http://paste.ubuntu.com/904709/
[22:57] <hnsz> trism: Great thanks.
[22:57] <hnsz> gr33n7007h: Thanks
[22:58] <matt-kun_> part
[22:58] <fellayaboy> how do i add a string to path environment...i want the domain name of my server in my path environment so ithat i could just press tab and complete the long name
[23:01] <seven> hi there i am new in ubuntu also new in programming;I am trying to run my first hello world program in ubuntu platform
[23:01] <seven> but its not working
[23:01] <gmachine_24> http://paste.ubuntu.com/904709/ anyone? network ssh samba share problem.............??
[23:02] <seven> i created a.out file but while i am trying to run a.out from terminal its not giving me any output,can any one please help me??
[23:02] <Pupuser402> i have a failed hibernate and would like to know how to reboot ... does not reach grub though it will boot into a livecd
 hence "pupuser" ;) : lots of stuff on google on the subject of hibernate issues but not how to reboot
[23:03] <dcluo> does anyone know more about CVE-2012-0155 than microsoft's official bulletin
[23:03] <aguitel> is possible to install cinnamon over kde with no gnome installed ?
[23:03] <Pici> dcluo: This is #ubuntu, try ##windows
[23:04] <Fyodorovna> aguitel, cinnamon is not supported here basically, but should install and work with kde.
[23:05] <Fyodorovna> aguitel, it will call for ant dependents on the install if done correctly.
[23:05] <Fyodorovna> any*
[23:05] <aguitel> Fyodorovna, thanks
[23:05] <aguitel> Fyodorovna, i will try it in 12.04
[23:05] <zandt> hi everyone. I installed PLOP boot manager, but it appears to have boinked my grub menu (my pc now boots straight to the PLOP/windows selection). I have a liveusb, but not sure how to [safely] fix grub back to the default loader/menu on boot
[23:05] <Fyodorovna> aguitel, it wont be over kde but along with.
[23:06] <Pupuser402> i have a failed hibernate and would like to know how to reboot ... does not reach grub though it will boot into a livecd
[23:06] <aguitel> Fyodorovna, yes
[23:06] <aguitel> along
[23:06] <Fyodorovna> zandt, you can only install it on windows, can you be a bit more specific.
[23:07] <zandt> I installed PLOP from windows (dual boot pc, ubuntu/windows). I can get to Windows through PLOP, but can't get to ubuntu & I can't get to my grub menu to select ubuntu
[23:07] <zandt> (I am currently in windows)
[23:08] <Fyodorovna> zandt, were you having problems booting windows?
[23:08] <zandt> Fyodorovna: no not at all. my bios doesn't support USB booting and previously I had used PLOP when I  needed to boot from USB
[23:08] <zandt> and I guess I fudged it up along the way
[23:08] <Fyodorovna> zandt, you remove plop from windows first.
[23:09] <Fyodorovna> !grub | zandt
[23:09] <zandt> Fyodorovna: is that safe? I mean, if I remove PLOP, and then GRUB doesn't come back... I would have problem as the cd drive doesn't work and my bios doesn't support USB booting
[23:10] <Fyodorovna> zandt, leave plop ifg you like I guess grub needs to be in the mbr if it is standard partitioning without a ubuntu boot partition.
[23:11] <Fyodorovna> zandt, I would use a plop bot disc personally.
[23:11] <Fyodorovna> bot*
[23:11] <meerkats> to add a ubuntu 11.10.iso copied in a usb stick to software sources its enough with copying the .iso into a usb and adding it via synaptic, isnt it?
[23:11] <zandt> Fyodorovna: I would have liked to as well. it's an old machine and it's falling apart. thanks, checking out the link
[23:12] <panzon> Hi, someone knows how to uninstall gnome and all its pannels I already install xfce, and I don't need anymore gnome stuffs
[23:12] <Fyodorovna> zandt, this usb loader has plop as a install on it as well as allowing multiple ISO's with a menu to choose the boot.
[23:13] <Fyodorovna> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[23:13] <Fyodorovna> zandt, I think it will work to bot the stick not sure really, maybe not.
[23:13] <Fyodorovna> boot
[23:13] <zandt> I can boot from the USB, no problems there
[23:14] <zandt> oh sorry, didn't see
[23:14] <zandt> :)
[23:15] <Fyodorovna> zandt, you say this "my bios doesn't support USB booting" then this "I can boot from the USB, no problems there" which is it
[23:16] <Fyodorovna> with plop I assume.
[23:16] <zandt> Fyodorovna: with plop.
[23:16] <mobilenoob11> Hi!
[23:16] <Fyodorovna> zandt, cool.
[23:16] <mobilenoob11> What is the best way to backup Ubuntu? tar, rsync?
[23:17] <Fyodorovna> mobilenoob11, clonezilla.org
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> !backup
[23:17] <LetterRip> hi all - quicky question - initramfs seems to have hung
[23:17] <LetterRip> has been showing on my console for 15 minutes
[23:17] <LetterRip> ie - update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.3.0-030300-generic
[23:17] <ejv> im dissapointed rsnapshot isn't in that last. epic fail.
[23:17] <LetterRip> any suggestions?
[23:18] <lesshaste> how do I get two displays to work with the nvidia drive in oneiric?
[23:18] <Fyodorovna> LetterRip, that is 12.04 and kernels out of release are not supported.
[23:18] <lesshaste> driver
[23:19] <ejv> although it's unsupported, you could use a known working initramfs (if you ever managed to get it working)
[23:19] <LetterRip> oops meant ubuntu+1
[23:19] <LetterRip> ejv - i can boot ok with older kernels - just curious why it hangs
[23:20] <antonio__> for some reason my sound system is not working
[23:20] <Pupuser402> i have a failed hibernate and would like to know how to reboot ... does not reach grub though it will boot into a livecd
[23:20] <antonio__> trying to record through line in and its not working
[23:20] <Fyodorovna> !bootinfo | antonio__
[23:21] <Fyodorovna> antonio__, sorry wrong nic.
[23:21] <antonio__> fyodorovna: its starting up..I can get sound...
[23:21] <antonio__> ah ok..np
[23:21] <Fyodorovna> !bootinfo | Pupuser402
[23:22] <mobilenoob11> I'm going to backup ubuntu with rsync, anyone see a problem with doing the whole drive, as in "/" ?
[23:22] <Pupuser402> Fyodorovna, ty
[23:23] <ejv> mobilenoob11: besides being unnecessary? i'd limit the backup to /etc /home and /var personally
[23:23] <Fyodorovna> Pupuser402, no problem pastebin the results.txt if needed.
[23:24] <mobilenoob11> Good Point
[23:25] <ejv> mobilenoob11: /boot to if you're dependent upon a specific kernel configuration, /usr/src/linux/.config, etc. etc. anything of real importance
[23:25] <ejv> s/to/too/
[23:26] <meerkats> to add a ubuntu 11.10.iso copied in a usb stick to software sources its enough with copying the .iso into a usb and adding it via synaptic, isnt it?
[23:26] <Fyodorovna> meerkats, to be honest that makes no sense.
[23:27] <mobilenoob11> Thanks ejv
[23:27] <meerkats> can duplicated sources reduce the speed of my laptop?
[23:27] <Sadhar> Hello all, I am using Ubuntu 11.10 (X64 version) and I try to run a x32 application. but it seems nothing works. here's the paste. http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/406897/ has anyone some tips I could do? (linux32 command not works. I installed lib-32 and libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 bibliorary.)
[23:27] <Fyodorovna> meerkats, you mean you have the cd ticked on in software sources
[23:28] <lesshaste> how do I get two displays to work with the nvidia drive in oneiric?
[23:29] <meerkats> ok, I have experienced growing problems with each update of ubuntu. To try to get back some stability (now is awfully slow to the point of being unusable) I thought installing with that cd box ticked on would give me back some of that cherished stability
[23:29] <ejv> mobilenoob11: good luck
[23:29] <meerkats> last update destabilized CCSS, apparently
[23:30] <ejv> meerkats: using LTS?
[23:30] <meerkats> ejv, whats that? Im using unity
[23:31] <meerkats> now i cannot even change the size of the icons in the launcher
[23:31] <meerkats> compiz isnt responsive
[23:32] <ejv> meerkats: every 2 years, canonical releases a "long term support" build of ubuntu desktop and server; updates under LTS tend to be more conservative, with a focus on stability and security.
[23:32] <itaylor57> meerkats, what version are you running?
[23:32] <meerkats> ejv, then im afraid not... im using 11.10 on a 3.0.17 kernel
[23:32] <ejv> meerkats: the more bleeding edge you are, the more ready you should be to deal with... "issues" :)
[23:33] <meerkats> in the software sources menu, should I tick on the source code box?
[23:34] <ejv> i know very little about ubuntu's package management and even less with regards to window/open gl compisiting. best to wait for someone else to chime in :)
[23:37] <meerkats> is a good idea to upgrade from 32bits to 63bits?
[23:37] <meerkats> is it*
[23:37] <meerkats> 64*
[23:37] <itaylor57> i like 64 bit
[23:38] <bastidrazor> meerkats: that isn't an upgrade. it requires a reinstall
[23:38] <Infernal1337> hi all
[23:38] <meerkats> ok, sorry
[23:38] <meerkats> are 64bit systems faster than 32bit ones?
[23:38] <nabukadnezar43> yes
[23:39] <meerkats> twice as fast?
[23:39] <nabukadnezar43> no
[23:39] <nabukadnezar43> and it depends on your machine
[23:40] <nabukadnezar43> if you have a good pc then you should be able to get more performance
[23:41] <meerkats> now my mouse tiles, on and off
[23:41] <nabukadnezar43> and sometimes performance increase is negligible
[23:41] <TheEmpath> hi ubuntuians.  when I tpye echo "hi" in the terminal. nothing happens. :X
[23:41] <TheEmpath> and i have no idea why
[23:43] <TheEmpath> i literally have no idea what happened.... i tried putting @@echo "test" in a make file, ran it, and then echo stopped working
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> meerkats: 64bit helps with data intense operations like video encoding and such
[23:44] <TheEmpath> the result of every single command prints nothing... ls, find, ps -A... im completely screwed wtf
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> TheEmpath: try:    ps -ef | less
[23:45] <TheEmpath> prints nothing
[23:45] <TheEmpath> every single command prints nothing
[23:45] <TheEmpath> ive never in my life seen this before
[23:45] <meerkats> ActionParsnip, would 64bit mean any difference if I use yacy? its very resource consuming
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> TheEmpath: how about:    ls $HOME
[23:45] <TheEmpath> ls $HOMEnothing
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> !info yacy
[23:46] <TheEmpath> prints nothing... nothing is being printed.
[23:46] <TheEmpath> it just gives me the user@pwd$ on every new line
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> TheEmpath: what is the output of:  echo $PATH
[23:47] <gr33n7007h> TheEmpath, try reset
[23:47] <TheEmpath> ActionParsnip: nothing
[23:47] <TheEmpath> anything involving output doesn't occur
[23:47] <gr33n7007h> TheEmpath, type reset
[23:47] <TheEmpath> gr33n7007h: cleared the terminal and stil nothing echos
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> TheEmpath: try running:    source ~/.bashrc
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> meerkats: possibly (just websearched)
[23:48] <TheEmpath> ActionParsnip: nothing
[23:49] <TheEmpath> what the hell...
[23:49] <TheEmpath> is there a device buffer issue I could check?
[23:52] <TheEmpath> im gonna try rebooting
[23:52] <TheEmpath> i hope this doesn't destroy anything X_X
[23:53] <TheEmpath> heh.. it appears to just affect the terminal tab lol?
[23:56] <Dj_FlyBy> is it best to set a static internal ip from the router or the server or both>?
[23:56] <Clordio_> Dj_FlyBy server
[23:58] <meerkats> how do I get rid of duplicated sources? does it happen because I have added redundant ppa's?