| c_smith | Hello, I'm wondering, has anyone else here had issues that I should know of before I install Gwibber? | 00:07 |
|---|---|---|
| c_smith | in Xubuntu 11.10, that is. | 00:07 |
| nabukadnezar43 | hello i just install compiz on xubuntu 11.10 | 00:21 |
| nabukadnezar43 | i ran "compiz --replace ccp" and now i don't have any windows borders / titlebars | 00:21 |
| nabukadnezar43 | any idea how to fix this? | 00:21 |
| c_smith | nabukadnezar43, I wouldn't recommend Compiz myself to anyone, it hasn't had enough development. as for your window problem, give me a second, I'm sure I can get something to help you. | 00:24 |
| nabukadnezar43 | xfwm4 --replace solves it but i get compiz disabled | 00:24 |
| c_smith | nabukadnezar43, looks like XFCE doesn't play nice with Compiz. | 00:25 |
| c_smith | nabukadnezar43, not to be mean, but you might try going without Compiz, it's been getting in a worse and worse state lately. | 00:25 |
| c_smith | Unity doesn't play that nice with certain compiz effects in fact, even though Unity is currently just a Compiz plugin. | 00:26 |
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| === [-_-] is now known as cipi | ||
| uBUXUBu | good evening purveyors of goodwill... | 01:44 |
| jlkkljh | i only see a black screen what do i do | 02:12 |
| jlkkljh | ??????????? | 02:12 |
| jlkkljh | hello? | 02:14 |
| uBUXUBu | what did you do leading up to the black screen jlkkljh ? | 02:15 |
| jlkkljh | sorry i had to take pills | 02:15 |
| uBUXUBu | you took pills, which lead to a black scren? | 02:16 |
| uBUXUBu | screen* | 02:16 |
| jlkkljh | but anyways i just installed and it did install bc it showed the installer after i rebooted | 02:17 |
| jlkkljh | lol | 02:17 |
| jlkkljh | nice joke | 02:17 |
| uBUXUBu | did u install from cd | 02:17 |
| jlkkljh | no | 02:17 |
| uBUXUBu | usb | 02:17 |
| jlkkljh | no wubi outside windows | 02:18 |
| Unit193 | Well, are there any error messages? "Black screen" doesn't really say much. | 02:19 |
| jlkkljh | i opened wubi inside win xp | 02:19 |
| jlkkljh | but installed as a boot option | 02:19 |
| jlkkljh | xbuntu that is | 02:20 |
| jlkkljh | xubuntu* | 02:20 |
| uBUXUBu | Fully de-install Wubi, | 02:21 |
| uBUXUBu | Turn off Windows completely (pull it out from power source for at least 10 seconds, in your case take off the battery too for at least 30 seconds), reboot, re-install Wubi from zero. | 02:21 |
| jlkkljh | ok ill try that | 02:22 |
| uBUXUBu | if all u get is black screen...u really don't have many options... | 02:22 |
| uBUXUBu | but i would get a fresh download of wubi too | 02:23 |
| jlkkljh | how do i set it to where it does not have a set | 02:23 |
| jlkkljh | i cant think of what its called | 02:24 |
| uBUXUBu | wubi is automated | 02:24 |
| jlkkljh | i wish i knew | 02:24 |
| uBUXUBu | there is very lil decision making | 02:24 |
| uBUXUBu | use 32 bit | 02:24 |
| jlkkljh | no i know that but, like after install and yes | 02:24 |
| uBUXUBu | are you afraid to partion and install? | 02:25 |
| jlkkljh | i already have | 02:25 |
| jlkkljh | im planning on uninstalling win xp | 02:26 |
| jlkkljh | and installing | 02:26 |
| jlkkljh | xubuntu | 02:26 |
| jlkkljh | where it was | 02:26 |
| jlkkljh | and then merging ?the two | 02:26 |
| uBUXUBu | wubi just runs buntu out of a folder...using a loop or virtual partition. | 02:26 |
| jlkkljh | ?????????idk | 02:26 |
| uBUXUBu | pleas etell us about your hardware | 02:27 |
| jlkkljh | ill tell ya my model # | 02:27 |
| jlkkljh | 510sp | 02:27 |
| jlkkljh | 510 s p | 02:27 |
| jlkkljh | * | 02:27 |
| uBUXUBu | ummm i need all of it | 02:27 |
| jlkkljh | thai is all of it | 02:28 |
| jlkkljh | search it in pc mag or something | 02:28 |
| uBUXUBu | for example u might say......hp pavilion dv608nr notebook 1.8 turion dual core, 256mb onboard graphics geforce go 6150 2 gig ram 160 hd x5400rpm | 02:29 |
| jlkkljh | oooh | 02:29 |
| jlkkljh | ummm | 02:29 |
| uBUXUBu | sheez | 02:29 |
| jlkkljh | ht pentium 4 processor | 02:29 |
| uBUXUBu | also i need to know how much available space u have on the hd | 02:29 |
| jlkkljh | i installed on a 15 gb | 02:30 |
| uBUXUBu | i need all the specs | 02:30 |
| jlkkljh | i no | 02:30 |
| jlkkljh | im getting there | 02:30 |
| jlkkljh | 1 gig ram | 02:30 |
| jlkkljh | idk harddrive | 02:31 |
| jlkkljh | hang on | 02:31 |
| uBUXUBu | u must know how much space is left | 02:31 |
| uBUXUBu | start, rt click my computer, c drive (if its doze) | 02:31 |
| jlkkljh | i installed on all of the space that was left | 02:32 |
| uBUXUBu | but how much space is left over the primary OS | 02:32 |
| jlkkljh | 15 gb | 02:32 |
| uBUXUBu | ok | 02:32 |
| uBUXUBu | so if its a p4 with HT | 02:32 |
| uBUXUBu | it has to be at least 2.8 g cpu | 02:32 |
| jlkkljh | yes | 02:32 |
| uBUXUBu | ok | 02:33 |
| jlkkljh | but define ht | 02:33 |
| uBUXUBu | hyperthreading | 02:33 |
| jlkkljh | ok | 02:33 |
| jlkkljh | ok | 02:33 |
| jlkkljh | ki get it | 02:33 |
| uBUXUBu | its a single core that can run 2 threads at once | 02:33 |
| uBUXUBu | kinda a early dual core | 02:33 |
| uBUXUBu | anyways...tell me about the graphics | 02:34 |
| jlkkljh | ok | 02:34 |
| jlkkljh | how do you check | 02:34 |
| uBUXUBu | dowload cpuz | 02:34 |
| uBUXUBu | its tiny | 02:34 |
| uBUXUBu | and uses next to nuthing when u run it | 02:34 |
| uBUXUBu | or maybe device manager | 02:34 |
| jlkkljh | ok ill need to plug in and start up | 02:35 |
| jlkkljh | itas booting | 02:35 |
| uBUXUBu | wait let me check something | 02:35 |
| uBUXUBu | do u have ccleaner installed by chance it spells out the graphics too | 02:36 |
| jlkkljh | kk | 02:36 |
| jlkkljh | no | 02:36 |
| uBUXUBu | well ok | 02:36 |
| jlkkljh | hang on i might | 02:37 |
| uBUXUBu | well anyway an p4 with HT and a gig a ram is ok | 02:37 |
| jlkkljh | ok thats good | 02:37 |
| uBUXUBu | in fact | 02:38 |
| uBUXUBu | i have a 3.4 HT p4 like that with buntu on it beside xp pro | 02:38 |
| uBUXUBu | runs good but i think wubi would run very slow i stuffed on its own 20 gig partition | 02:39 |
| jlkkljh | i just got it installed and after it fully finished it turned black | 02:39 |
| jlkkljh | thats what i did on a 15 | 02:39 |
| jlkkljh | gig | 02:39 |
| uBUXUBu | i thought u used wubi? | 02:41 |
| jlkkljh | but once i get this ubuntu install working ill uninstall/format xp and then install | 02:41 |
| jlkkljh | i did | 02:41 |
| uBUXUBu | and i think they want 20 gig partition too not sure | 02:41 |
| uBUXUBu | listen | 02:41 |
| jlkkljh | but it is a boot option | 02:42 |
| jlkkljh | ok | 02:42 |
| uBUXUBu | never iinstall buntu AFTER doze | 02:42 |
| jlkkljh | doze?????????????/ | 02:42 |
| uBUXUBu | what is your primary OS | 02:42 |
| jlkkljh | xp | 02:42 |
| jlkkljh | im going to change that thou | 02:43 |
| uBUXUBu | do u have your OS backed up and all your files? | 02:43 |
| jlkkljh | no | 02:43 |
| jlkkljh | i dont want xp anymore | 02:43 |
| jlkkljh | at all | 02:43 |
| uBUXUBu | but do u have backups just in case | 02:44 |
| jlkkljh | plus if i need xp back i have an xp pro install cd | 02:44 |
| uBUXUBu | and drivers? | 02:44 |
| uBUXUBu | which are easy to get usually | 02:44 |
| uBUXUBu | do u have all your files backed up/ | 02:44 |
| jlkkljh | yes | 02:44 |
| chelz | jlkkljh: double sure? | 02:45 |
| chelz | double extra super sure? | 02:45 |
| jlkkljh | i dont have anything important | 02:45 |
| uBUXUBu | so now u are saying u want 1 OS and u want it to be buntu on the entire drive? | 02:45 |
| jlkkljh | but drivers i meant | 02:45 |
| jlkkljh | yes | 02:45 |
| jlkkljh | i need all the help i can get thou | 02:46 |
| jlkkljh | on the whole thing | 02:46 |
| uBUXUBu | well installing buntu as the primary OS is usually very simple but it will CLEAN WIPE all the data u have on the computer. | 02:46 |
| jlkkljh | ok thats fine | 02:46 |
| uBUXUBu | windows will be gone all the drivers gone all of your pics musics etc...poof | 02:47 |
| jlkkljh | im on a different comp now so its fine | 02:47 |
| uBUXUBu | but if thats what u want just make sure the bios is set to boot from cd | 02:47 |
| jlkkljh | i have music on a diff drive bc of a hacker | 02:47 |
| uBUXUBu | or u said usb | 02:47 |
| jlkkljh | i cant boot from usb | 02:48 |
| uBUXUBu | can u burn cd's | 02:48 |
| jlkkljh | no | 02:48 |
| uBUXUBu | then maybe ur stuck downloading wubi | 02:49 |
| jlkkljh | it says unable to complete format every time | 02:49 |
| jlkkljh | i am | 02:49 |
| jlkkljh | what if i hack my own computer | 02:49 |
| uBUXUBu | i would run some tests like mem test | 02:49 |
| uBUXUBu | haha ur goofin off now ok cya | 02:49 |
| jlkkljh | like on an ftp server | 02:49 |
| jlkkljh | i know how to hack | 02:50 |
| * uBUXUBu gets hungry and hacks a grapefruit.... | 02:50 | |
| jlkkljh | lollllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll | 02:50 |
| jlkkljh | seriously | 02:50 |
| jlkkljh | i do | 02:50 |
| jlkkljh | on an ftp only tho | 02:51 |
| jlkkljh | but i mean like | 02:51 |
| jlkkljh | hack step 1 | 02:51 |
| jlkkljh | format step 2 | 02:51 |
| uBUXUBu | sounds like ur all hacked up now | 02:51 |
| jlkkljh | install from ftp | 02:51 |
| chelz | install from | 02:51 |
| chelz | usb | 02:52 |
| jlkkljh | i cant | 02:52 |
| jlkkljh | step 3 | 02:52 |
| chelz | why not cd then? | 02:52 |
| jlkkljh | step 4 use ubuntu | 02:52 |
| chelz | also google for install guides. there are full youtube vids on installs | 02:52 |
| chelz | fire up gparted from a livecd, delete everything | 02:52 |
| chelz | well you need to somehow burn+boot a cd, boot usb, or boot floppy | 02:53 |
| uBUXUBu | lets face it the whole install thing is not the issue buntu install (cleaan wipers) basically are fully automated u can hardly miss unless u have a hardware problem or a bas check sum | 02:53 |
| chelz | go to a local lug and they'll hook you up with some CDs | 02:53 |
| jlkkljh | i can format from cd but i cant burn | 02:53 |
| chelz | jlkkljh: why can't you burn? do you have a cd burner? | 02:54 |
| jlkkljh | no | 02:54 |
| jlkkljh | i dont even have a walkman | 02:54 |
| chelz | jlkkljh: do you have a floppy drive and a floppy? | 02:54 |
| jlkkljh | yes | 02:54 |
| jlkkljh | kinda | 02:54 |
| chelz | wait actually | 02:54 |
| jlkkljh | my olargest floppy is 1.44 mb | 02:55 |
| jlkkljh | largest* | 02:55 |
| chelz | jlkkljh: so you only have xp installed atm? | 02:55 |
| jlkkljh | and xubuntu | 02:55 |
| jlkkljh | acpi workariunds | 02:56 |
| jlkkljh | thats the only option that will boot | 02:56 |
| chelz | jlkkljh: so you have xubuntu. good. | 02:56 |
| uBUXUBu | xp and xubuntu are good OS's for your hardware why are u changing | 02:56 |
| jlkkljh | but a black screen pops up and then it freezes | 02:57 |
| chelz | jlkkljh: did it work before? | 02:57 |
| jlkkljh | on xubuntu | 02:57 |
| jlkkljh | it has never fully installed | 02:57 |
| uBUXUBu | which edition of xubunto | 02:58 |
| jlkkljh | this is the first time it has done a full install | 02:58 |
| uBUXUBu | xubuntu | 02:58 |
| jlkkljh | 11.10 | 02:58 |
| chelz | jlkkljh: what did you use to install xubuntu? | 02:58 |
| jlkkljh | wibe chelz | 02:58 |
| uBUXUBu | one thing i noticed on my ole p4...it loved xubuntu 9.04 and 10.04 | 02:58 |
| chelz | wubi? | 02:58 |
| jlkkljh | wubi* | 02:59 |
| jlkkljh | yes | 02:59 |
| jlkkljh | from inside win xp | 02:59 |
| uBUXUBu | i thought wubi wa ubuntu not xubuntu? | 02:59 |
| uBUXUBu | was* | 02:59 |
| chelz | you can choose the desktop env you want in the install | 03:00 |
| chelz | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=wubi-123.png | 03:00 |
| chelz | from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide | 03:00 |
| jlkkljh | it is xubuntu/ubuntu/mythbuntu/kubuntu | 03:00 |
| jlkkljh | i have tried them all | 03:00 |
| chelz | jlkkljh: well if you can find a way to partition your hdd you can 'burn' an iso to that partition and tell grub to boot from it | 03:00 |
| chelz | or setup a floppy so that it can let you boot usb | 03:01 |
| chelz | then boot from usb that way | 03:01 |
| jlkkljh | this is the only one that gets close | 03:01 |
| chelz | jlkkljh: you might try lubuntu, but i'd try a xubuntu floppy+usb first | 03:02 |
| jlkkljh | my largest floppy is 1.44 mb | 03:02 |
| chelz | you could also order a xubuntu disc | 03:02 |
| chelz | jlkkljh: that works fine | 03:03 |
| chelz | you just use the floppy to boot from a larger usb drive | 03:03 |
| chelz | 1.44 MB floppy then loads a 1+ GB usb | 03:03 |
| uBUXUBu | i just read this......If you experience problems after installation, press "Ctrl+Alt+F2" and run: | 03:04 |
| uBUXUBu | sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg | 03:04 |
| uBUXUBu | Select the VESA driver and leave all other options at default. Then reboot. That will allow you to boot into a safe graphics mode (limited resolution) you should then be able to install the appropriate drivers or try other solutions as needed. | 03:04 |
| jlkkljh | can chelz tell me how to boot a floppy that ok | 03:04 |
| jlkkljh | boots from a usb | 03:05 |
| jlkkljh | anyone i guess | 03:05 |
| jlkkljh | like send me the code | 03:05 |
| jlkkljh | in here | 03:05 |
| jlkkljh | vesa driver ???????????????????????? say every thing in plain english/ walk me through it | 03:06 |
| uBUXUBu | im reading the wubi wiki stuff now... | 03:07 |
| jlkkljh | ok thank you | 03:07 |
| uBUXUBu | lots of info there | 03:07 |
| chelz | jlkkljh: what OS are you on now? | 03:08 |
| jlkkljh | much* | 03:08 |
| jlkkljh | huch* | 03:08 |
| jlkkljh | im not one to read that muck | 03:08 |
| jlkkljh | xp | 03:08 |
| jlkkljh | im on a different comp tho | 03:08 |
| jlkkljh | brb for a sec | 03:09 |
| jlkkljh | ok im back | 03:11 |
| uBUXUBu | any chance your hard needs a good defrag? | 03:13 |
| uBUXUBu | its a good idea to defrag before wubi | 03:13 |
| jlkkljh | i do it every day from cmd too | 03:13 |
| uBUXUBu | ok | 03:14 |
| chelz | jlkkljh: i'd say either read up on making a grub bootfloppy or order a cd | 03:14 |
| chelz | there are places that send you one for $3 or so | 03:14 |
| lighta | is someone using netbeans here ? | 03:14 |
| uBUXUBu | i think uninstall wubi and reinstall it use 10.04 if u can this time and try the ubuntu version instead of xubuntu maybe htere are more drivers in it | 03:15 |
| chelz | jlkkljh: or go to a local computer cafe or repair shop and someone there will have a cd burner | 03:15 |
| chelz | wubi is basically going to be a little unstable. normal install is best | 03:15 |
| jlkkljh | how do i install 10.04 wubi | 03:16 |
| uBUXUBu | see if its a choice on the drop down menu | 03:16 |
| jlkkljh | / wheredo i get it | 03:16 |
| jlkkljh | it is only 10.04 | 03:16 |
| jlkkljh | 11.10 | 03:16 |
| jlkkljh | ]* | 03:16 |
| jlkkljh | * | 03:17 |
| jlkkljh | what is grub anyway | 03:17 |
| jlkkljh | and it is trying to boot recovery mode | 03:19 |
| uBUXUBu | http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download | 03:19 |
| uBUXUBu | when u see the 11.10 download u can do a screen drop down and 10.04 LTS is right there | 03:19 |
| uBUXUBu | id use that one and leave it as ubuntu | 03:20 |
| uBUXUBu | i have that one on a p4 right now | 03:20 |
| uBUXUBu | with xp pro beside it | 03:20 |
| jlkkljh | ok ill try that | 03:20 |
| jlkkljh | i have xp pro already | 03:20 |
| uBUXUBu | but do a good uninstall and deffrag | 03:20 |
| uBUXUBu | 1st and make sure u have all ur backups | 03:21 |
| chelz | jlkkljh: if you can, you can repartition and use unetbootin to put an iso on a partition then boot from that | 03:21 |
| uBUXUBu | i mean i like to partition and install better but u are u saying u cannot do that atm | 03:21 |
| chelz | things get really tricky when you can't boot from cd/usb overall | 03:21 |
| jlkkljh | would cc cleanerwork to defrag if i do every option | 03:22 |
| chelz | jlkkljh: nope, you go to programs accessories | 03:22 |
| jlkkljh | i installed as a boot optiion | 03:23 |
| jlkkljh | that wont work chelz | 03:23 |
| jlkkljh | i have to go through cmd | 03:23 |
| chelz | http://www.tuxradar.com/answers/524 | 03:26 |
| chelz | just to do a boot floppy you have to edit a grub config (menu.lst), and that's not super easy for a newbie | 03:27 |
| chelz | same with repartitioning | 03:27 |
| chelz | ordering a cd is easiest | 03:27 |
| jlkkljh | ok thx ill try that | 03:33 |
| _pg_ | is there an easy way to get smb working on xubuntu? | 03:35 |
| _pg_ | everything ive tried so far is nightmarish | 03:35 |
| max4men | hi | 04:40 |
| max4men | tell me how to disable autorun applications | 04:41 |
| max4men | are not closed after leaving the session? | 04:41 |
| max4men | No one knows? | 04:50 |
| chelz | max4men: what is an example application you want to disable? | 04:52 |
| max4men | Well see, for example, sitting at the computer, open the application. turn off the computer, turn on, and those applications that were open automatically run | 04:57 |
| chelz | max4men: ah yeah that's xubuntu's session feature | 05:01 |
| chelz | its in the options somewhere | 05:02 |
| max4men | I understand, but you can disable it like? | 05:02 |
| chelz | you can | 05:03 |
| chelz | it can be done | 05:03 |
| max4men | hm | 05:18 |
| max4men | just wondering how to do it | 05:19 |
| chelz | i'm gonna see if i can find it | 05:40 |
| chelz | max4men: menu -> Settings -> Settings Manager -> General (tab) -> "Automatically save session on logout" | 05:45 |
| chelz | make sure that's unchecked | 05:45 |
| max4men | unchecked | 05:46 |
| max4men | it ferst that i check | 05:46 |
| chelz | max4men: was it unchecked before? | 05:46 |
| chelz | also check the autostartup tab | 05:47 |
| chelz | and remove the stuff you don't want to start. it could have a session saved from before | 05:47 |
| chelz | btw unrelated but something pretty neat, to stop xfce and stop it from starting automatically: | 05:50 |
| chelz | sudo service lightdm stop && sudo dpkg-divert --rename --add /etc/init/lightdm.conf | 05:50 |
| chelz | then to reverse that: | 05:50 |
| chelz | sudo dpkg-divert --rename --remove /etc/init/lightdm.conf && sudo service lightdm start | 05:50 |
| chelz | i'm working in VMs right now and it's nice to free up resources like that | 05:51 |
| max4men | you have it worked? | 05:52 |
| chelz | max4men: stopping xfce or stopping autostart stuff? | 05:53 |
| chelz | you should check the autostart tab in settings, that stuff above was for stopping xfce | 05:53 |
| max4men | stopping autostart stuff | 05:55 |
| chelz | max4men: look in the autostart tab in menu -> Settings -> Settings Manager | 05:55 |
| chelz | it's a tab | 05:55 |
| chelz | er | 05:56 |
| chelz | settings manager then session and stuff | 05:56 |
| chelz | http://docs.xfce.org/_media/xfce/xfce4-session/xfce4-session-preferences-general.png | 05:57 |
| chelz | max4men: "Application Autostart" | 05:57 |
| chelz | also "session" tab | 05:57 |
| chelz | clear saved sessions maybe | 05:57 |
| max4men | хз | 05:58 |
| max4men | sorry | 05:58 |
| max4men | don't know, | 05:58 |
| max4men | will be googl'ить | 05:59 |
| max4men | )) | 05:59 |
| chelz | max4men: might try deleting your session files | 06:13 |
| chelz | earlier in here someone said they thought it's in ~/.cache | 06:14 |
| max4men | try | 06:16 |
| max4men | but first try it | 06:17 |
| max4men | http://forum.ubuntu.ru/index.php?topic=32871.0 | 06:17 |
| max4men | the point is that all would first off, save, and then uncheck autosave | 06:18 |
| chelz | alright | 06:18 |
| uBUXUBu | good morning xubuntu technicians! | 06:28 |
| BlakJak | ullo xubuntu types. Got a bug or issue with the panel in 12.04b1 ... it wont auto hide properly | 07:59 |
| plouffe | I just updated to xubuntu 11.04, and I cannot figure out how to turn off the autohide of panels. I hope this is still an option? | 13:14 |
| GridCube | plouffe, yes it is | 13:15 |
| plouffe | How do I turn it off? | 13:15 |
| GridCube | plouffe, go to the panel >right clic >panel(submenu) >preferences(sp?) >uncheck autohide | 13:16 |
| plouffe | I have three tabs, Display Appearance Items. No autohide option anywhere | 13:17 |
| plouffe | In Displayit says Automatically show and hide the panel, but that isn't checked | 13:17 |
| plouffe | I tried checking it before, it didn't change anything, now I unchecked it again | 13:18 |
| GridCube | plouffe, are those the options for the panel you want to not hide? see if choosing a different number of panel does it | 13:18 |
| plouffe | It's the correct panel. I have only one panel | 13:19 |
| plouffe | Panel 1 | 13:19 |
| GridCube | then it should not hide | 13:19 |
| plouffe | but it does | 13:20 |
| plouffe | it even hides when I click on the program launcher. Shows only the program launcher, panel is gone | 13:22 |
| GridCube | plouffe, http://imagebin.org/205553 | 13:22 |
| GridCube | its in spanish but its fairly clair | 13:23 |
| plouffe | Those are my settings, except it's horizontal | 13:24 |
| plouffe | I'll try a reboot | 13:25 |
| plouffe | and now I get the grub prompt again | 13:26 |
| GridCube | grub prompt | 13:27 |
| plouffe | yea, after this stupid upgrade grub was broken | 13:27 |
| GridCube | ¡? | 13:27 |
| GridCube | oh | 13:28 |
| GridCube | what happens if you do a sudo update-grub | 13:28 |
| plouffe | yea I do that now | 13:28 |
| GridCube | or it was grub-update... | 13:28 |
| plouffe | but the panel is still autohiding | 13:29 |
| GridCube | mmm | 13:29 |
| GridCube | knome, what files remember the panel configurations? i mean the ones you can delete and when you log back in they get regenerated? | 13:29 |
| knome | don't know | 13:30 |
| GridCube | mmm | 13:30 |
| knome | ~/.config/xfce4/panel ? | 13:30 |
| plouffe | thanks | 13:30 |
| plouffe | it says "autohide" value="0" | 13:32 |
| plouffe | I cannot find that problem described on google | 13:33 |
| GridCube | plouffe, you did an upgrade from xfce 4.6 to 4.8, the config files are different and you need new ones | 13:36 |
| GridCube | delete the ones you have now and relogin | 13:37 |
| GridCube | stuff should work | 13:37 |
| plouffe | It offered a "Migrate old config" option | 13:37 |
| GridCube | yeah, i don't know about that, | 13:37 |
| plouffe | but if I delete them, I'd have to start over ? | 13:37 |
| GridCube | if by starover you mean reset your panels to the way you like with launchers and stuff then yes | 13:38 |
| plouffe | GridCube, setting "Opacity > Leave" setting in "Appearance" towards 100 solved it | 14:44 |
| GridCube | oooo, it did not auto hide, it went transparent | 14:44 |
| plouffe | it didn't do that before. But anyways, it's fixed | 14:45 |
| Eric_ | Hey guys, anyone know If there is a way to replace xflock with the login screen that appears at boot? | 15:04 |
| GridCube | Eric_, thats loging out | 15:05 |
| Eric_ | Mmm can that login screen not function as a lock screen as well? | 15:06 |
| GridCube | it would kill all runing process by the user who unlogs... or thats what i understand | 15:06 |
| GridCube | Eric_, not that i know off | 15:06 |
| Eric_ | Ah ok, that's what I had read too, thought I would come and check tho | 15:06 |
| GridCube | Eric_, i don't really know tho | 15:06 |
| GridCube | im just guessing here | 15:07 |
| Eric_ | Sure sure | 15:07 |
| Eric_ | I just ask bc I feel like other distros lock screens are the same as their login screens | 15:07 |
| Eric_ | Err I guess other desktop environments lock screens ... | 15:08 |
| Sysi | xscreensaver should iffer logging in as new user | 15:11 |
| Sysi | login manager itself shouldn't do session locking | 15:12 |
| Sysi | you can also use gnome-screensaver | 15:19 |
| Marzata | xscreensaver has new login? | 15:31 |
| Eric_ | I think I have installed gnome overtop of xscreensaver before. But was just curious if I could replace either with login manager. Sounds like the answer is no tho, thanks for the help sysi | 15:32 |
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| jarnos | Can you replace nouveau driver by nv after installation? I don't know if it is driver dependent, but sometimes X takes about all available CPU power. | 17:10 |
| GridCube | jarnos, yes, just use jockey-gtk and choose the one you like the most | 17:10 |
| jarnos | GridCube, it offers highly experimental 3D support. nouveau itself is experimental at least for 11.04. Is it still for 12.04? Sad, if there is no stable driver for my old nvidia card. | 17:16 |
| GridCube | jarnos, i don't know sorry | 17:19 |
| jarnos | Would nv driver be used if I uninstalled nouveau driver and installed nv driver, then rebooted? | 17:47 |
| lighta | nv = nvidia ? | 17:48 |
| lighta | anyway no you need to choose wich driver you'd use after this | 17:48 |
| jarnos | lighta, how do you choose it? They are both open source drivers. | 17:50 |
| lighta | hmm I don't recall much jarnos, or it was in additional driver that you were choosing, or it was in package installation that prevent me using both | 17:52 |
| lighta | atm on additional driver I have many option available for my nvidia, did you try this yet ? | 17:52 |
| jarnos | lighta, no, I think the offered 3D driver may be even more experimental | 17:54 |
| jarnos | lighta, yes nv = nvidia | 17:54 |
| lighta | hmm I dunno if he would recence it if it's even more experimental but I'd try since I do have some experimental version listed here | 17:55 |
| lighta | otherwise you may take a look at compiz | 17:55 |
| jarnos | lighta, why would I take a look at compiz? | 18:02 |
| jarnos | lighta, it works together with video driver and nouveau driver is not on the whitelist for compiz. | 18:06 |
| lighta | ah ok, well I really dun know how you will select it jarnos, it may be already in used. I sorry I can't help much | 18:08 |
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| ickefes | i guys. i have tried to find a solution but not found it so I ask you now if you know why my xubuntu 12.04 takes minutes to login after i've entered my login data? | 19:23 |
| ickefes | it takes about 1-2 minutes for the system bar and all other stuff to load. | 19:23 |
| ickefes | any ideas? i use all the latest updates. | 19:27 |
| jarnos | ickefes, I guess Xubuntu is not that fast anymore :( | 19:34 |
| ickefes | it is wierd. when i first installed the latest official beta it logged in fast but as soon as i installed all updates i became really slow at logging in | 19:35 |
| jarnos | Here in Xubuntu 11.04 drawing progress bar (e.g when scaling image in Gimp) makes X take 90% of CPU and I guess it would take more, if there was available. | 19:36 |
| jarnos | Very slow. | 19:37 |
| ickefes | hm... strange | 19:38 |
| TheSheep | jarnos: it's not the drawing of progress bar, it's the scaling that takes that cpu | 19:39 |
| jarnos | TheSheep, no, X is using the most of CPU resources. | 19:42 |
| TheSheep | jarnos: it's possible that gimp is calling some x function to do the scaling, is it different with other window managers? | 19:43 |
| jarnos | TheSheep, I have not tried, but I think it depends on hardware (drivers), like nouveau. | 19:44 |
| jarnos | TheSheep, it happens with some other software such as grsync as well when displaying progress bar. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grsync/+bug/908283 | 19:52 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 908283 in grsync (Ubuntu) "Xorg is using a lot of CPU while syncing" [Undecided,New] | 19:52 |
| jarnos | TheSheep, same thing with update manager at least in 11.04. | 19:54 |
| TheSheep | jarnos: sounds like a bug in gtk | 19:56 |
| TheSheep | say, is the right-click-on-desktop application menu completely removed in xubuntu precise? | 19:59 |
| jarnos | TheSheep, anyway it does not slow my laptop that much. Only this older regular PC with nvidia graphics card. | 19:59 |
| TheSheep | the settings seems to be ignored, the menu doesn't work | 20:00 |
| TheSheep | calling xfdesktop --menu does show the menu | 20:00 |
| TheSheep | hmm, switching desktop icons on makes the menu work again | 20:01 |
| TheSheep | madness | 20:01 |
| ickefes | hi guys. when i picked kernel 3.0.17 instead of latest 3.0.20 my computer logged in immediately | 20:17 |
| zmisc | Is Xubuntu pretty open to people wishing to contribute to the project? | 20:59 |
| TheSheep | zmisc: http://xubuntu.org/contribute/ | 20:59 |
| zmisc | Thank you, I will do my research and begin. | 21:00 |
| zmisc | Running development builds is probably a good place to start I'd imagine. | 21:00 |
| zmisc | I'm decently adapt with Python and PyGTK so I believe I have some ideas I can give a spin. | 21:01 |
| TheSheep | also join #xubuntu-devel | 21:02 |
| zmisc | excellent, thank you for pointing me in the right direction | 21:03 |
| zmisc | This project is completely managed and developed by the community, in comparison to Ubuntu correct? | 21:04 |
| TheSheep | yes | 21:04 |
| BlakJak | so.. any idea when the bug causing chromium to crash on first load is likely to be dealt to? | 21:34 |
| BlakJak | "chromium-browser crashed with SIGSEGV in gethostbyname2_r() | 21:34 |
| BlakJak | " | 21:34 |
| TheSheep | did you report it? | 21:35 |
| BlakJak | appears to be in 'triaged' state | 21:35 |
| BlakJak | not sure what that means | 21:35 |
| * BlakJak does updates | 21:39 | |
| knome | BlakJak, that means somebody has found the bug and a bug triager believes there is enough information to fix the bug | 21:41 |
| BlakJak | knome: ah, but the fix hasn't been committed yet? | 21:41 |
| BlakJak | that's encouraging at least :-) | 21:41 |
| knome | BlakJak, no, most probably nothing has actually been done yet to fix the bug | 21:42 |
| BlakJak | ah, right. | 21:42 |
| BlakJak | I suppose i'm becoming impatient as i'm encountering it daily | 21:42 |
| knome | BlakJak, depending on the bug priority it might be quickly fixed, or maybe not... :) | 21:42 |
| BlakJak | but i'm running 12.04b1. Suppose I shouldn't complain. | 21:42 |
| knome | probably not, and in that case there is definitely hope | 21:43 |
| knome | what's the bug #? | 21:43 |
| BlakJak | 929219 | 21:43 |
| knome | ubottu, bug 929219 | 21:43 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 929219 in eglibc (Ubuntu Precise) "chromium-browser crashed with SIGSEGV in __nscd_get_mapping()" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/929219 | 21:43 |
| knome | mm-hmm, it's "high" and it has an assignee... definitely hope exists :) | 21:44 |
| BlakJak | all good | 21:45 |
| BlakJak | I have one other bug with the panel that's annoying | 21:45 |
| BlakJak | and one UI shortcoming also with the panel, that's also annoying... but nothing major. pretty happy with xubuntu 12.04. | 21:45 |
| BlakJak | bug with the panel is that auto-hide seems to randomly stop working | 21:46 |
| BlakJak | for the 'dock' like panel | 21:46 |
| knome | have you filed a bug for it? | 21:46 |
| BlakJak | tbh, i'm not sure how | 21:46 |
| GridCube | !bugreport | 21:47 |
| knome | i'm wondering what package that should be... | 21:47 |
| BlakJak | not even sure what useful keywords i should use when searching to see if it's already there | 21:47 |
| knome | ubottu, wakey wakey | 21:47 |
| GridCube | !bug | 21:47 |
| ubottu | If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs. | 21:47 |
| GridCube | :P lol | 21:47 |
| BlakJak | ah right. Yes, so which package? :p | 21:47 |
| knome | i'm wondering if it's an actual bug in the xfce panel, or something else | 21:48 |
| GridCube | it should be xfwm4 | 21:48 |
| knome | xfwm, not panel? | 21:48 |
| GridCube | or panels... | 21:48 |
| knome | hehe, yeah | 21:49 |
| knome | or, for a weird weird reason, xubuntu-default-settings... | 21:49 |
| GridCube | ubuntu-bug xfwm4-panel | 21:49 |
| GridCube | :P | 21:49 |
| knome | err | 21:50 |
| knome | xfce4-panel | 21:50 |
| GridCube | knome, today there where a guy who said that having a different alpha set to the panel made it autohide, i think it should went invisible | 21:50 |
| GridCube | ah... | 21:50 |
| GridCube | ;__; | 21:50 |
| knome | hmm. | 21:50 |
| knome | weird. | 21:50 |
| GridCube | but he did a distro-upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 | 21:51 |
| GridCube | so i blame faulty config files | 21:51 |
| leo-unglaub | are you running xubuntu with compiz or without? | 21:54 |
| leo-unglaub | i am just asking because i am interested | 21:54 |
| GridCube | leo-unglaub, most people run it without, some do run compiz tho | 21:55 |
| knome | without | 21:59 |
| knome | i'm in the understanding that if you want to use compiz, you probably want gnome instead of xfce | 22:00 |
| leo-unglaub | thats exaclty my point, there is one function i realy find useful, but slowing down the system just for one function is hard | 22:00 |
| leo-unglaub | so i am not sure | 22:01 |
| knome | maybe there are other ways to get the desired outcome :) | 22:01 |
| leo-unglaub | i looked and even asked here, but sadly onone was able to help me | 22:02 |
| leo-unglaub | i am talking about the compiz function where you can draw with the mouse on the desktop | 22:02 |
| leo-unglaub | thats sooo useful if you give speached | 22:03 |
| BlakJak | ubuntu-bug xfwm4-panel | 22:03 |
| BlakJak | ya think? | 22:03 |
| BlakJak | or xfce4-panel? | 22:03 |
| BlakJak | latter exists | 22:03 |
| knome | xfce4-panel definitely :P | 22:07 |
| knome | leo-unglaub, hmm. probably... i can't see that being a feature in xfce, ever | 22:08 |
| knome | leo-unglaub, but maybe some software | 22:08 |
| BlakJak | !ubuntu-bug xfce4-panel | 22:08 |
| BlakJak | heh. not a bot command then? | 22:09 |
| leo-unglaub | knome: yeah | 22:09 |
| leo-unglaub | maybe | 22:10 |
| knome | BlakJak, terminal :) | 22:10 |
| BlakJak | oh haha | 22:10 |
| BlakJak | duh | 22:11 |
| nabukadnezar43 | why not delay xubuntu release to include xfce 4.10? | 22:33 |
| nabukadnezar43 | or maybe they will include despite ui deadlines | 22:33 |
| knome | nabukadnezar43, because xubuntu uses the same infrastructure as ubuntu, that wouldn't make much sense, and would be a lot of work | 22:33 |
| knome | nabukadnezar43, no, it will not be included. in 12.10 then | 22:34 |
| nabukadnezar43 | are there any good text editors with syntax highlighting that depends only on gtk? | 22:40 |
| nabukadnezar43 | something as rich as gedit and kate | 22:40 |
| GridCube | geany | 22:41 |
| * knome wonders if geany depends "only on gtk" :) | 22:41 | |
| GridCube | :P | 22:42 |
| GridCube | X2 | 22:42 |
| GridCube | thats other :P | 22:43 |
| nabukadnezar43 | i just don't want any kde and gnome dependencies | 22:43 |
| nabukadnezar43 | i'm not obsessed with it actually as i have gedit installed right now | 22:43 |
| * knome uses gedit too | 22:44 | |
| * BlakJak 3 | 22:44 | |
| * GridCube uses leafpad and nano :( | 22:44 | |
| BlakJak | leafepad looks like a notepad clone | 22:44 |
| BlakJak | but sadly doesn't have many of the keyboard shortcuts mapped the same | 22:44 |
| BlakJak | so I opted to install gedit | 22:45 |
| nabukadnezar43 | it's a pain to read codes in leafpad | 22:45 |
| knome | there was some discussion on leafpad probably getting syntax highlighting | 22:45 |
| * Marzata is on leafpad and nano too :) | 22:45 | |
| BlakJak | vim ftw too. | 22:45 |
| BlakJak | when in shell. | 22:45 |
| nabukadnezar43 | i also have totem installed as i couldn't get gecko media player working | 22:47 |
| * Marzata uses lynx too :) | 22:48 | |
| xubuntu_loco | hbgjhj | 22:53 |
| xubuntu_loco | hi | 22:54 |
| GridCube | nabukadnezar43, X2 is small program that does that stuff | 23:04 |
| nabukadnezar43 | i've never heard of that one | 23:06 |
| nabukadnezar43 | i'll try it | 23:06 |
| GridCube | http://gtk-apps.org/content/show.php?content=145463 | 23:07 |
| GridCube | :P | 23:07 |
| GridCube | nabukadnezar43, ^ | 23:07 |
| nabukadnezar43 | yeah i found it before your post :) | 23:08 |
| GridCube | :P | 23:08 |
| BlakJak | 967857 <-- bug reported | 23:11 |
| BlakJak | (had to wait for signup creds to get thru greylisting) | 23:11 |
| GridCube | bug #967857 | 23:11 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 967857 in xfce4-panel (Ubuntu) "Auto Hide for Panel 2 ("Dock" style Panel) randomly fails" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/967857 | 23:11 |
| TVasEyes | BlakJak: there's gvim too :) | 23:12 |
| BlakJak | heh, google image search gave me gvim portable for windows | 23:13 |
| BlakJak | that's neat. | 23:13 |
| BlakJak | I prefer context in windows tho.. | 23:14 |
| TVasEyes | I use gvim on all my xfce desktops. | 23:14 |
| TVasEyes | (have no MS s/waee left :) ) | 23:14 |
| TVasEyes | s/ware* | 23:15 |
| nabukadnezar43 | ms visual studio is better | 23:15 |
| nabukadnezar43 | :) | 23:15 |
| GridCube | D: | 23:16 |
| GridCube | not sure if jocking | 23:16 |
| nabukadnezar43 | well if you're a c# developer, nothing can beat ms vs | 23:17 |
| nabukadnezar43 | closest experience i get was coding in java using netbeans | 23:18 |
| TVasEyes | nabukadnezar43: could it be that that's because c# doesn't exist outside the Redmond world? | 23:18 |
| nabukadnezar43 | well not true, c# exists within ubuntu itself | 23:18 |
| TVasEyes | hm, ok, didn't know. | 23:19 |
| TVasEyes | thanks. | 23:19 |
| nabukadnezar43 | it's a part of gnome-extra | 23:19 |
| TVasEyes | (I think) | 23:19 |
| nabukadnezar43 | gnome-extra includes mono which is a open source c# compiler | 23:19 |
| nabukadnezar43 | mono actually is a set of tools not just a compiler sorry for that | 23:20 |
| TVasEyes | never used it, equivalent to .net environment? | 23:20 |
| nabukadnezar43 | yes an open source implementation | 23:21 |
| nabukadnezar43 | tomboy, banshee are all coded in c# | 23:21 |
| nabukadnezar43 | there were a few more well known applications | 23:21 |
| nabukadnezar43 | i just dont recall | 23:21 |
| TVasEyes | np, not my area of work/expertise anyway :) | 23:22 |
| nabukadnezar43 | c# is a great language, i've been using it for more than a year now | 23:24 |
| GridCube | !ot | 23:24 |
| ubottu | #xubuntu is the Xubuntu support channel, #xubuntu-devel for discussion regarding development of Xubuntu, and #xubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome! | 23:24 |
| nabukadnezar43 | yeah sorry for that we got a bit offtopic | 23:25 |
| * TVasEyes tries looking contrite.. | 23:25 | |
| GridCube | :) np | 23:27 |
| GridCube | but nabukadnezar43 do come to #xubuntu-offtopic :D | 23:27 |
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