[00:07] Hello, I'm wondering, has anyone else here had issues that I should know of before I install Gwibber? [00:07] in Xubuntu 11.10, that is. [00:21] hello i just install compiz on xubuntu 11.10 [00:21] i ran "compiz --replace ccp" and now i don't have any windows borders / titlebars [00:21] any idea how to fix this? [00:24] nabukadnezar43, I wouldn't recommend Compiz myself to anyone, it hasn't had enough development. as for your window problem, give me a second, I'm sure I can get something to help you. [00:24] xfwm4 --replace solves it but i get compiz disabled [00:25] nabukadnezar43, looks like XFCE doesn't play nice with Compiz. [00:25] nabukadnezar43, not to be mean, but you might try going without Compiz, it's been getting in a worse and worse state lately. [00:26] Unity doesn't play that nice with certain compiz effects in fact, even though Unity is currently just a Compiz plugin. === CiPi is now known as [-_-] === [-_-] is now known as cipi [01:44] good evening purveyors of goodwill... [02:12] i only see a black screen what do i do [02:12] ??????????? [02:14] hello? [02:15] what did you do leading up to the black screen jlkkljh ? [02:15] sorry i had to take pills [02:16] you took pills, which lead to a black scren? [02:16] screen* [02:17] but anyways i just installed and it did install bc it showed the installer after i rebooted [02:17] lol [02:17] nice joke [02:17] did u install from cd [02:17] no [02:17] usb [02:18] no wubi outside windows [02:19] Well, are there any error messages? "Black screen" doesn't really say much. [02:19] i opened wubi inside win xp [02:19] but installed as a boot option [02:20] xbuntu that is [02:20] xubuntu* [02:21] Fully de-install Wubi, [02:21] Turn off Windows completely (pull it out from power source for at least 10 seconds, in your case take off the battery too for at least 30 seconds), reboot, re-install Wubi from zero. [02:22] ok ill try that [02:22] if all u get is black screen...u really don't have many options... [02:23] but i would get a fresh download of wubi too [02:23] how do i set it to where it does not have a set [02:24] i cant think of what its called [02:24] wubi is automated [02:24] i wish i knew [02:24] there is very lil decision making [02:24] use 32 bit [02:24] no i know that but, like after install and yes [02:25] are you afraid to partion and install? [02:25] i already have [02:26] im planning on uninstalling win xp [02:26] and installing [02:26] xubuntu [02:26] where it was [02:26] and then merging ?the two [02:26] wubi just runs buntu out of a folder...using a loop or virtual partition. [02:26] ?????????idk [02:27] pleas etell us about your hardware [02:27] ill tell ya my model # [02:27] 510sp [02:27] 510 s p [02:27] * [02:27] ummm i need all of it [02:28] thai is all of it [02:28] search it in pc mag or something [02:29] for example u might say......hp pavilion dv608nr notebook 1.8 turion dual core, 256mb onboard graphics geforce go 6150 2 gig ram 160 hd x5400rpm [02:29] oooh [02:29] ummm [02:29] sheez [02:29] ht pentium 4 processor [02:29] also i need to know how much available space u have on the hd [02:30] i installed on a 15 gb [02:30] i need all the specs [02:30] i no [02:30] im getting there [02:30] 1 gig ram [02:31] idk harddrive [02:31] hang on [02:31] u must know how much space is left [02:31] start, rt click my computer, c drive (if its doze) [02:32] i installed on all of the space that was left [02:32] but how much space is left over the primary OS [02:32] 15 gb [02:32] ok [02:32] so if its a p4 with HT [02:32] it has to be at least 2.8 g cpu [02:32] yes [02:33] ok [02:33] but define ht [02:33] hyperthreading [02:33] ok [02:33] ok [02:33] ki get it [02:33] its a single core that can run 2 threads at once [02:33] kinda a early dual core [02:34] anyways...tell me about the graphics [02:34] ok [02:34] how do you check [02:34] dowload cpuz [02:34] its tiny [02:34] and uses next to nuthing when u run it [02:34] or maybe device manager [02:35] ok ill need to plug in and start up [02:35] itas booting [02:35] wait let me check something [02:36] do u have ccleaner installed by chance it spells out the graphics too [02:36] kk [02:36] no [02:36] well ok [02:37] hang on i might [02:37] well anyway an p4 with HT and a gig a ram is ok [02:37] ok thats good [02:38] in fact [02:38] i have a 3.4 HT p4 like that with buntu on it beside xp pro [02:39] runs good but i think wubi would run very slow i stuffed on its own 20 gig partition [02:39] i just got it installed and after it fully finished it turned black [02:39] thats what i did on a 15 [02:39] gig [02:41] i thought u used wubi? [02:41] but once i get this ubuntu install working ill uninstall/format xp and then install [02:41] i did [02:41] and i think they want 20 gig partition too not sure [02:41] listen [02:42] but it is a boot option [02:42] ok [02:42] never iinstall buntu AFTER doze [02:42] doze?????????????/ [02:42] what is your primary OS [02:42] xp [02:43] im going to change that thou [02:43] do u have your OS backed up and all your files? [02:43] no [02:43] i dont want xp anymore [02:43] at all [02:44] but do u have backups just in case [02:44] plus if i need xp back i have an xp pro install cd [02:44] and drivers? [02:44] which are easy to get usually [02:44] do u have all your files backed up/ [02:44] yes [02:45] jlkkljh: double sure? [02:45] double extra super sure? [02:45] i dont have anything important [02:45] so now u are saying u want 1 OS and u want it to be buntu on the entire drive? [02:45] but drivers i meant [02:45] yes [02:46] i need all the help i can get thou [02:46] on the whole thing [02:46] well installing buntu as the primary OS is usually very simple but it will CLEAN WIPE all the data u have on the computer. [02:46] ok thats fine [02:47] windows will be gone all the drivers gone all of your pics musics etc...poof [02:47] im on a different comp now so its fine [02:47] but if thats what u want just make sure the bios is set to boot from cd [02:47] i have music on a diff drive bc of a hacker [02:47] or u said usb [02:48] i cant boot from usb [02:48] can u burn cd's [02:48] no [02:49] then maybe ur stuck downloading wubi [02:49] it says unable to complete format every time [02:49] i am [02:49] what if i hack my own computer [02:49] i would run some tests like mem test [02:49] haha ur goofin off now ok cya [02:49] like on an ftp server [02:50] i know how to hack [02:50] * uBUXUBu gets hungry and hacks a grapefruit.... [02:50] lollllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll [02:50] seriously [02:50] i do [02:51] on an ftp only tho [02:51] but i mean like [02:51] hack step 1 [02:51] format step 2 [02:51] sounds like ur all hacked up now [02:51] install from ftp [02:51] install from [02:52] usb [02:52] i cant [02:52] step 3 [02:52] why not cd then? [02:52] step 4 use ubuntu [02:52] also google for install guides. there are full youtube vids on installs [02:52] fire up gparted from a livecd, delete everything [02:53] well you need to somehow burn+boot a cd, boot usb, or boot floppy [02:53] lets face it the whole install thing is not the issue buntu install (cleaan wipers) basically are fully automated u can hardly miss unless u have a hardware problem or a bas check sum [02:53] go to a local lug and they'll hook you up with some CDs [02:53] i can format from cd but i cant burn [02:54] jlkkljh: why can't you burn? do you have a cd burner? [02:54] no [02:54] i dont even have a walkman [02:54] jlkkljh: do you have a floppy drive and a floppy? [02:54] yes [02:54] kinda [02:54] wait actually [02:55] my olargest floppy is 1.44 mb [02:55] largest* [02:55] jlkkljh: so you only have xp installed atm? [02:55] and xubuntu [02:56] acpi workariunds [02:56] thats the only option that will boot [02:56] jlkkljh: so you have xubuntu. good. [02:56] xp and xubuntu are good OS's for your hardware why are u changing [02:57] but a black screen pops up and then it freezes [02:57] jlkkljh: did it work before? [02:57] on xubuntu [02:57] it has never fully installed [02:58] which edition of xubunto [02:58] this is the first time it has done a full install [02:58] xubuntu [02:58] 11.10 [02:58] jlkkljh: what did you use to install xubuntu? [02:58] wibe chelz [02:58] one thing i noticed on my ole p4...it loved xubuntu 9.04 and 10.04 [02:58] wubi? [02:59] wubi* [02:59] yes [02:59] from inside win xp [02:59] i thought wubi wa ubuntu not xubuntu? [02:59] was* [03:00] you can choose the desktop env you want in the install [03:00] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=wubi-123.png [03:00] from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide [03:00] it is xubuntu/ubuntu/mythbuntu/kubuntu [03:00] i have tried them all [03:00] jlkkljh: well if you can find a way to partition your hdd you can 'burn' an iso to that partition and tell grub to boot from it [03:01] or setup a floppy so that it can let you boot usb [03:01] then boot from usb that way [03:01] this is the only one that gets close [03:02] jlkkljh: you might try lubuntu, but i'd try a xubuntu floppy+usb first [03:02] my largest floppy is 1.44 mb [03:02] you could also order a xubuntu disc [03:03] jlkkljh: that works fine [03:03] you just use the floppy to boot from a larger usb drive [03:03] 1.44 MB floppy then loads a 1+ GB usb [03:04] i just read this......If you experience problems after installation, press "Ctrl+Alt+F2" and run: [03:04] sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg [03:04] Select the VESA driver and leave all other options at default. Then reboot. That will allow you to boot into a safe graphics mode (limited resolution) you should then be able to install the appropriate drivers or try other solutions as needed. [03:04] can chelz tell me how to boot a floppy that ok [03:05] boots from a usb [03:05] anyone i guess [03:05] like send me the code [03:05] in here [03:06] vesa driver ???????????????????????? say every thing in plain english/ walk me through it [03:07] im reading the wubi wiki stuff now... [03:07] ok thank you [03:07] lots of info there [03:08] jlkkljh: what OS are you on now? [03:08] much* [03:08] huch* [03:08] im not one to read that muck [03:08] xp [03:08] im on a different comp tho [03:09] brb for a sec [03:11] ok im back [03:13] any chance your hard needs a good defrag? [03:13] its a good idea to defrag before wubi [03:13] i do it every day from cmd too [03:14] ok [03:14] jlkkljh: i'd say either read up on making a grub bootfloppy or order a cd [03:14] there are places that send you one for $3 or so [03:14] is someone using netbeans here ? [03:15] i think uninstall wubi and reinstall it use 10.04 if u can this time and try the ubuntu version instead of xubuntu maybe htere are more drivers in it [03:15] jlkkljh: or go to a local computer cafe or repair shop and someone there will have a cd burner [03:15] wubi is basically going to be a little unstable. normal install is best [03:16] how do i install 10.04 wubi [03:16] see if its a choice on the drop down menu [03:16] / wheredo i get it [03:16] it is only 10.04 [03:16] 11.10 [03:16] ]* [03:17] * [03:17] what is grub anyway [03:19] and it is trying to boot recovery mode [03:19] http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download [03:19] when u see the 11.10 download u can do a screen drop down and 10.04 LTS is right there [03:20] id use that one and leave it as ubuntu [03:20] i have that one on a p4 right now [03:20] with xp pro beside it [03:20] ok ill try that [03:20] i have xp pro already [03:20] but do a good uninstall and deffrag [03:21] 1st and make sure u have all ur backups [03:21] jlkkljh: if you can, you can repartition and use unetbootin to put an iso on a partition then boot from that [03:21] i mean i like to partition and install better but u are u saying u cannot do that atm [03:21] things get really tricky when you can't boot from cd/usb overall [03:22] would cc cleanerwork to defrag if i do every option [03:22] jlkkljh: nope, you go to programs accessories [03:23] i installed as a boot optiion [03:23] that wont work chelz [03:23] i have to go through cmd [03:26] http://www.tuxradar.com/answers/524 [03:27] just to do a boot floppy you have to edit a grub config (menu.lst), and that's not super easy for a newbie [03:27] same with repartitioning [03:27] ordering a cd is easiest [03:33] ok thx ill try that [03:35] <_pg_> is there an easy way to get smb working on xubuntu? [03:35] <_pg_> everything ive tried so far is nightmarish [04:40] hi [04:41] tell me how to disable autorun applications [04:41] are not closed after leaving the session? [04:50] No one knows? [04:52] max4men: what is an example application you want to disable? [04:57] Well see, for example, sitting at the computer, open the application. turn off the computer, turn on, and those applications that were open automatically run [05:01] max4men: ah yeah that's xubuntu's session feature [05:02] its in the options somewhere [05:02] I understand, but you can disable it like? [05:03] you can [05:03] it can be done [05:18] hm [05:19] just wondering how to do it [05:40] i'm gonna see if i can find it [05:45] max4men: menu -> Settings -> Settings Manager -> General (tab) -> "Automatically save session on logout" [05:45] make sure that's unchecked [05:46] unchecked [05:46] it ferst that i check [05:46] max4men: was it unchecked before? [05:47] also check the autostartup tab [05:47] and remove the stuff you don't want to start. it could have a session saved from before [05:50] btw unrelated but something pretty neat, to stop xfce and stop it from starting automatically: [05:50] sudo service lightdm stop && sudo dpkg-divert --rename --add /etc/init/lightdm.conf [05:50] then to reverse that: [05:50] sudo dpkg-divert --rename --remove /etc/init/lightdm.conf && sudo service lightdm start [05:51] i'm working in VMs right now and it's nice to free up resources like that [05:52] you have it worked? [05:53] max4men: stopping xfce or stopping autostart stuff? [05:53] you should check the autostart tab in settings, that stuff above was for stopping xfce [05:55] stopping autostart stuff [05:55] max4men: look in the autostart tab in menu -> Settings -> Settings Manager [05:55] it's a tab [05:56] er [05:56] settings manager then session and stuff [05:57] http://docs.xfce.org/_media/xfce/xfce4-session/xfce4-session-preferences-general.png [05:57] max4men: "Application Autostart" [05:57] also "session" tab [05:57] clear saved sessions maybe [05:58] хз [05:58] sorry [05:58] don't know, [05:59] will be googl'ить [05:59] )) [06:13] max4men: might try deleting your session files [06:14] earlier in here someone said they thought it's in ~/.cache [06:16] try [06:17] but first try it [06:17] http://forum.ubuntu.ru/index.php?topic=32871.0 [06:18] the point is that all would first off, save, and then uncheck autosave [06:18] alright [06:28] good morning xubuntu technicians! [07:59] ullo xubuntu types. Got a bug or issue with the panel in 12.04b1 ... it wont auto hide properly [13:14] I just updated to xubuntu 11.04, and I cannot figure out how to turn off the autohide of panels. I hope this is still an option? [13:15] plouffe, yes it is [13:15] How do I turn it off? [13:16] plouffe, go to the panel >right clic >panel(submenu) >preferences(sp?) >uncheck autohide [13:17] I have three tabs, Display Appearance Items. No autohide option anywhere [13:17] In Displayit says Automatically show and hide the panel, but that isn't checked [13:18] I tried checking it before, it didn't change anything, now I unchecked it again [13:18] plouffe, are those the options for the panel you want to not hide? see if choosing a different number of panel does it [13:19] It's the correct panel. I have only one panel [13:19] Panel 1 [13:19] then it should not hide [13:20] but it does [13:22] it even hides when I click on the program launcher. Shows only the program launcher, panel is gone [13:22] plouffe, http://imagebin.org/205553 [13:23] its in spanish but its fairly clair [13:24] Those are my settings, except it's horizontal [13:25] I'll try a reboot [13:26] and now I get the grub prompt again [13:27] grub prompt [13:27] yea, after this stupid upgrade grub was broken [13:27] ¡? [13:28] oh [13:28] what happens if you do a sudo update-grub [13:28] yea I do that now [13:28] or it was grub-update... [13:29] but the panel is still autohiding [13:29] mmm [13:29] knome, what files remember the panel configurations? i mean the ones you can delete and when you log back in they get regenerated? [13:30] don't know [13:30] mmm [13:30] ~/.config/xfce4/panel ? [13:30] thanks [13:32] it says "autohide" value="0" [13:33] I cannot find that problem described on google [13:36] plouffe, you did an upgrade from xfce 4.6 to 4.8, the config files are different and you need new ones [13:37] delete the ones you have now and relogin [13:37] stuff should work [13:37] It offered a "Migrate old config" option [13:37] yeah, i don't know about that, [13:37] but if I delete them, I'd have to start over ? [13:38] if by starover you mean reset your panels to the way you like with launchers and stuff then yes [14:44] GridCube, setting "Opacity > Leave" setting in "Appearance" towards 100 solved it [14:44] oooo, it did not auto hide, it went transparent [14:45] it didn't do that before. But anyways, it's fixed [15:04] Hey guys, anyone know If there is a way to replace xflock with the login screen that appears at boot? [15:05] Eric_, thats loging out [15:06] Mmm can that login screen not function as a lock screen as well? [15:06] it would kill all runing process by the user who unlogs... or thats what i understand [15:06] Eric_, not that i know off [15:06] Ah ok, that's what I had read too, thought I would come and check tho [15:06] Eric_, i don't really know tho [15:07] im just guessing here [15:07] Sure sure [15:07] I just ask bc I feel like other distros lock screens are the same as their login screens [15:08] Err I guess other desktop environments lock screens ... [15:11] xscreensaver should iffer logging in as new user [15:12] login manager itself shouldn't do session locking [15:19] you can also use gnome-screensaver [15:31] xscreensaver has new login? [15:32]