[02:11] <ScottyK> Is there any major differences between Kubuntu and Linux Mint KDE?
[02:12] <bazhang> sure
[03:05] <rtdos> how do i prevent nepomuk from alerting me everytime it's NOT running?
[03:17] <Tm_T> it's not nepomuk alerting, but other apps using nepomuk I believe
[04:33] <jt__> In Kubuntu 12.04, could someone tell me how to perfrom the network start/stop/restart functions which used to be done in /etc/init.d? It now refers me to use the service command, but this command fails when I use it.
[04:33] <Whiskey`Wonka> jt__: likely you are after start network-manager and stop network-manager
[04:38] <jt__> Ah; I tried start/stop networking and network, but not network-manager.  It's counter intuitive to me that "network-manager" would restart the actual network as oppose to neetworking  or  network-interface, but what-od-I-know. Is there documentation on what all these services are somewhere (I see a ton of services when I do a "service --status-all"
[07:03] <sharpspear> hello. I was trying to install mysql trough the software center, but the installation stopped saying "applying changes". how can i cancel it and try again?
[07:22] <obelus> Not sure if anyone can help with this, but I'm trying to use Pulse to install the Eclipse 3.7 IDE, and it continually hangs on 'Preparing catalog definitions and images', googling for the issue only produced a solution for Windows 2000, which was installing GDI+ runtimes, but no solution for Linux.
[07:32] <szal> what has Pulse got to do w/ Eclipse?
[07:37] <obelus> Pulse is a content delivery system that manages Eclipse, etc.
[10:15] <MacSeal> hi,i have problem with encoding on this plasmoid http://imagebin.org/205670
[10:17] <MacSeal> with plasmoidviewer sm_hdd is right
[11:23] <sky100> can any one suggest how to create a folder on desktop...
[11:25] <hateball> sky100: How do you mean?
[11:26] <hateball> sky100: You add a plasmoid for Folder View, then point that somewhere like ~/, and it will display the contents of that directory and let you rightclick inside it and create folders and what not
[11:27] <sky100> hateball ..all i wanted to create a folder  on my desktop
[11:27] <hateball> sky100: Well... that's not how plasma works. But once you do the above it'll behave in the same way
[11:28] <sky100> i see
[11:28] <sky100> sorry didnt get ur suggestion
[11:28] <sky100> im new in ubuntu
[11:29] <hateball> Rightclick the "desktop", add "graphic component(?)" and then choose folder view
[11:29]  * hateball does not use English locale, so
[11:29] <sky100> let me chk
[11:29] <Tm_T> "add widgets"
[11:29] <hateball> then you can customize the folder view item to show whichever folder you want, change the size and location etc
[11:32] <hateball> So if you really want you can make your entire plasma one giant folder view :p
[11:33] <lordievader> Good afternoon
[11:33] <sky100> hey lordievader  good afternoon
[11:34] <lordievader> sky100: hey, how are you?
[11:35] <sky100> im fine ty , how abt u
[11:35] <lordievader> sky100: I'm fine :)
[11:35] <sky100> i right clicked on desktop hateball
[11:36] <sky100> not seeing any option like graphic components
[11:36] <hateball> you may need to "unlock widgets" first
[11:36] <hateball> then as Tm_T said "add widgets"
[11:36] <hateball> again, I don't use English locale, so my translations may be off :)
[11:37] <sky100> my widgets is open
[11:37] <sky100> not locked
[11:38] <sky100> yes im now in ADD widgets
[11:38] <lordievader> anyone here with the new ATI drivers (12.3)? is a update recommended?
[11:39] <sky100> so add widgets has option like NEW FOLDER ?
[11:39] <hateball> sky100: then scroll around that for a bit til you find Folder View and drag that onto the desktop
[11:39] <sky100> ok hadrian
[11:39] <sky100> oops
[11:39] <sky100> hateball,
[11:39] <hateball> :)
[11:40] <sky100> yes dragged
[11:40] <hateball> then you should be able to edit the properties of that, and choose which folder to point to
[11:41] <hateball> straight into your home, or to the Download folder, or whatever
[11:41] <hateball> as well as move and resize it to your liking
[11:41] <mydogsnameisrudy> are the folders just shortcuts to the real folder or well deleting them remove the folder completely
[11:41] <sky100> im seeing that it shows up the items which are in my home directory
[11:42] <sky100> is that ok?
[11:42] <sky100> yea.. now right click on it gives option CREATE NEW
[11:42] <sky100> like folder etc..
[11:44] <sky100> i can create new folder in it
[11:47] <sky100> brb ,,reboot to see if my wallpaper is saved at reboot
[11:55] <naftilos76> hi everyone, what is wrong with kmail2 in kde 4.8.1. Internet is full of unexokained kmail2 crashes and shutdowns...
[11:55] <naftilos76> unexplained
[12:04] <sky100> dont use kmail..
[12:04] <sky100> its crap..
[12:05] <sky100> it did not work for me as well
[12:05] <Tm_T> been working just fine for me though
[12:06] <sky100> hmm
[12:06] <mydogsnameisrudy> likes kmail also
[12:07] <sky100> Tm_T,  are u on kubuntu 11.10?
[12:08] <Tm_T> yes
[12:08] <Carnage__> naftilos76: KMail is dying slowly and painfully since KDE 4...
[12:09] <naftilos76> sky100: it is too late now i have all my bysiness email around 10K
[12:09] <Tm_T> Carnage__: dying?
[12:09] <naftilos76> i am searching for a decent script or anything that can help me migrate to thunderbird or something similar but no luck
[12:10] <Tm_T> naftilos76: your mails are not on server?
[12:10] <naftilos76> Carnage__: struggling to prevent from drowining is most likely the case...
[12:10] <sky100> thunderbird is good enough & works well ..i heard . naftilos76
[12:11] <naftilos76> Tm_T: nop - all are locally transfered and erased from server :-(
[12:11] <naftilos76> unfortunatelly
[12:12] <sky100> brb
[12:12] <Tm_T> naftilos76: then connect to imap server, move all mails to it, done
[12:13] <naftilos76> i have seen something about that but i have no time to do that - maybe later
[12:13] <uberdub> is there an android channel?
[12:13] <bazhang> #android
[12:30] <BluesKaj> hey all
[12:31] <fayaz> hi, is there any way i could get kmail1 back?
[12:35] <mydogsnameisrudy> morning BluesKaj
[12:36] <DarthFrog> Good morning BluesKaj
[12:39] <BluesKaj> fayaz,  i wish for it , but don't think it's possible without drastics
[12:40] <DarthFrog> I gave up on Kmail a while back; been using Thunderbird for a  few years now.
[12:40] <BluesKaj> hi DarthFrog , mydogsnameisrudy
[12:41] <BluesKaj> my emails aren't real secure anymore since my ISP contracted it's email servers out to Hotmail :(
[12:42] <BluesKaj> still use t-bird tho
[12:42] <DarthFrog> T-bird with IMAP to Gmail, ftw.
[12:42] <fayaz> :-[
[12:47] <sky100> i copied & pasted my preferred images in the directory /home/username/.kde/share/wallpaper ..to find them all in wallpaper sel
[12:48] <sky100> wallpaper selection window in plama desktop
[12:59] <uberdub> bazhang: #android: Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[13:02] <BluesKaj> sky100,  , ineresting , did you create that folder in ~/.kde/share/ or was it there as a default
[13:14] <BluesKaj> sky100, does your Plasma Desktop Shell look anything like this ? http://imagebin.org/205690
[13:16] <sky100> sorry ..was away BluesKaj
[13:16] <sky100> let me see ya link
[13:17] <sky100> exactly so BluesKaj
[13:18] <BluesKaj>  did you create that folder in ~/.kde/share/ or was it there by default?
[13:19] <sky100> weird stuff is this when I clicked on to OPEN at the bottom & browsed to the folder where my picture folder is residing & selected photo from there and used as wallpaper .. it just got vanished after reboot
[13:20] <sky100> until i did this last time to be relived of this issue
[13:20] <sky100> relieved *
[13:20] <sky100> that directory is in the home
[13:21] <sky100> i just navigated to /home/USERNAME/.kde/share/wallpaper & pasted all the photos there which I might want to use as my wallpaper time to time
[13:22] <sky100> i really dunno even now why it just did not get saved which I browsed from OPEN from plasme desktop
[13:23] <sky100> now I reboot & see my preferred wallpaper is just working fine on the desktop
[13:24] <sky100> BluesKaj,  u there ?
[13:24] <BluesKaj> your wallpaper file can be anywhere in ~/ (/home/user/)
[13:24] <sky100> yes
[13:25] <sky100> nut to get them working i had to copied & pasted the images into that directory
[13:25] <sky100> but*
[13:25] <sky100> to copi*
[13:25] <sky100> copy*
[13:25] <BluesKaj> I created a separate folder for my fav wallpapers and just navigate to it from the desktop shell/settings highlight the pic and click open
[13:26] <sky100> yes i was doing the same earlier
[13:26] <sky100> but it just had stopped working ...
[13:26] <BluesKaj> strange
[13:27] <sky100> really upsetting me..
[13:27] <sky100> yea BluesKaj
[13:27] <sky100> & after reboot do u find the new wallpaper just on ur desktop?
[13:28] <sky100> in my case it was just switching back to default
[13:28] <sky100> did not know that I had to manipulate with directory to get wallpaper working ..
[13:29] <BluesKaj> wallpaper changes without rebooting , but it sticks after a reboot , yes
[13:30] <sky100> yes ..it was changing normally without rebooting... but does not stick after reboot ..
[13:31] <sky100> thats what is poking me at..
[13:31] <sky100> as I reboot after changing the wallpaper ..>>> DEFAULT is lodged !!!
[13:32] <sky100> dunno ... whats wrong with it ...
[13:40] <sky100> let me browse to my pic folder & select a new image use that as my wallpaper & reboot & see what happens! BluesKaj
[13:40] <sky100> BRB
[13:46] <Scunizi> Will Kopete connect to yahoo messenger.. It doesn't seem to like me today.  I haven't connected in over a year so perhaps they've changed something.
[13:47] <sky100> nahh BluesKaj ..the problem exists
[13:48] <sky100> i need to save all images into the directory to get them working as my wallpaper
[13:48] <sky100> :(
[13:48] <sky100> this is really weird
[13:49] <BluesKaj> sky100,  yes , of course , once saved in desktop settings/plasmadesktop shell . they should remain there til you delete or remove them
[13:51] <sky100> yes
[13:52] <sky100> but dunno BluesKaj  whats the issue that any image saved in plasma desktop shell & applied as wallpaper is vanisihing at the reboot
[13:52] <sky100> :(
[13:55] <BluesKaj> sky100,  which layout are you using in the desktop shell ?
[13:55] <sky100> let me see..
[13:56] <sky100> desktop
[13:57] <BluesKaj> wallpaper + image ?
[13:57] <BluesKaj> =
[13:57] <sky100> yes
[13:58] <BluesKaj> and you haven't been clicking on "install default wallpapers" ?
[13:58] <sky100> nah
[13:59] <sky100> coz i wanted the images of my choice to use as wallpaper
[13:59] <sky100> not the default wallpapers
[14:00] <BluesKaj> ok , click on "open" , to where does it navigate?
[14:00] <sky100> ok
[14:00] <sky100> plasma desktop shell
[14:01] <sky100> its navigated to^^^^
[14:01] <BluesKaj> but you already had the plasma desktop shell open
[14:01] <sky100> yes
[14:02] <BluesKaj> so it didn't open the original wallpaper source folder
[14:03] <sky100> i have the source folder in on my partition
[14:04] <BluesKaj> for example my last choice was located in my pictures folder , so when I clicked on open the desktop shell opened my pictures folder
[14:04] <BluesKaj> my partition?
[14:05] <sky100> yes , in my case it also directs me to the last opened folder
[14:05] <sky100> like u said my picture folder
[14:05] <BluesKaj> what's this my partition?
[14:06] <sky100> nah .. discard that
[14:06] <BluesKaj> no , what did you mean by that
[14:06] <sky100> wrongly typed
[14:07] <BluesKaj> is the last picture you chose there highlighted ?
[14:07] <sky100> yes
[14:08] <sky100> & APPLY option is not LIVE
[14:08] <sky100> if i select other picture then APPLY becomes xclickable
[14:08] <sky100> clickable*
[14:11] <sky100> but if i now reboot the wallpaper which is being used right now , will just disappear
[14:11] <BluesKaj> open system settings>startup&shutdown>autostart , make sure plasma desktop workspace is enabled
[14:11] <sky100> let me see
[14:13] <sky100> i m selecting RESTORE MANUALLY SAVED SESSION
[14:13] <sky100> is that ok?
[14:14] <BluesKaj> dunno , never used it
[14:14] <sky100> i switched to Autostart
[14:15] <sky100> as u said
[14:15] <BluesKaj> is the desktop worspace startup enabled?
[14:15] <markus_> More and more people here :)
[14:16] <markus_> I guess unity makes people switch
[14:16] <sky100> not seeing any option like work space start up
[14:16] <sky100> Auto start / service manager/ session management
[14:17] <sky100> all i see
[14:17] <BluesKaj> look under desktop file in autostart
[14:19] <BluesKaj> not service manager
[14:20] <sky100> im now looking into Configure desktop effects
[14:22] <BluesKaj> look in autostart , that 's where the desktop startup is enabled , just make it is
[14:22] <BluesKaj> sure
[14:23] <sky100> yes under auto start its shows ... gtk2-default -theme .rc.shgtk2-default-t ...Enabled
[14:23] <sky100> just next to it I see a drop down menu
[14:24] <sky100> Pre KDE start up / start up /shut down
[14:24] <sky100> so my serach was ok ?
[14:24] <BluesKaj> no
[14:25] <sky100> oops
[14:25] <sky100> i was seeing in Auto Start
[14:25] <sky100> as u said
[14:25] <sky100> where I went wrong
[14:26] <BluesKaj> kmenu>my computer>systemsettings>startup&shutdown>autostart , desktop file
[14:26] <sky100> ok
[14:28] <sky100> yes i went like Kmenu > settings> startup & shutdown> autostart> desktopfile
[14:29] <sky100> should I give u a screen shot ?
[14:29] <BluesKaj> no
[14:29] <BluesKaj> sky100,  which kubuntu are you running ?
[14:29] <sky100> kubuntu 11.10
[14:30] <BluesKaj> under desktop file do you see "plasma ?
[14:31] <sky100> no
[14:31] <sky100> script file
[14:31] <BluesKaj> ok screenshot then
[14:31] <sky100> ok
[14:33] <sky100> just gimme imagebin link bline
[14:33] <sky100> BluesKaj,
[14:34] <BluesKaj> imagebin.org
[14:36] <sky100> oh..its saying image type not allowed
[14:37] <sky100> i simply took by print screen button
[14:39] <BluesKaj> did you save the image to documents ?
[14:41] <sky100> yes
[14:41] <sky100> i browsed from imagebin
[14:41] <sky100> was it wrong ?
[14:42] <sky100> its saying image type not allowed
[14:42] <BluesKaj> sometimes it gets too busy ...wait for a min or 2
[14:42] <sky100> oh ok
[14:42] <BluesKaj> whats the file xtn?
[14:42] <sky100> ok png
[14:42] <sky100> png
[14:44] <BluesKaj> odd again
[14:44] <sky100> odd ?
[14:44] <sky100> thats imagebin is not accepting ?
[14:45] <BluesKaj> it accepts png , or so it says here http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add
[14:46] <sky100> still saying not allowed ..image type
[14:46] <sky100> ok BluesKaj  .. im just going afk for sometime ....but i will be online ... BBS ..many thnx for ur time & co-operation
[14:47] <sky100> pls help me out when I resume
[14:47] <BluesKaj> ok sky100 , if I'm still here
[14:47] <sky100> sure ..of course
[14:47] <sky100> i will be back in 45 mins
[14:48] <sky100> of ya still here , i will get in touch
[14:48] <sky100> if*
[14:48] <BluesKaj> sky100,  dunno how I can help
[14:48] <BluesKaj> i'm out of ideas
[14:49] <sky100> ok np .. thanx for effort
[14:49] <dimw1t> wow, just saw this.  this sucks (yes i've been lurking more than paying attention):  http://www.webupd8.org/2012/02/kubuntu-to-become-community-only-ubuntu.html
[14:49]  * sky100 is away: TEA & SMOKE  ....
[14:49] <bazhang> !away > sky100
[14:50] <bigkitty> hi
[14:51] <dimw1t> i realize that many of the great folk who have made kubuntu great have been volunteers, but this seems like a step backwards
[14:51] <dimw1t> and with all the painful churn these past few kde releases, this is just difficult to swallow.
[14:52] <BluesKaj> dimw1t,  kubuntu had only one paid dev anyway , so now it's up to the community to take up the slack , jonathan will helping us , but on a voluntary basis
[14:54] <dimw1t> BluesKaj: thanks, i guess it makes sense.  hopefully all the kde churn around kontact/nepomuk/akonadi settles down so that people like me won't be afraid to upgrade their kubuntu going forward.
[14:54] <dimw1t> just feels like a setback, and one likely caused or influenced by kde massive design changes over the past year and a half
[14:55] <BluesKaj> dimw1t, nepomuk/akonadi can be disabled if they trouble your setup ..I just dumped kmail/kontact  since I couldn't get it to link properly thru akonadi anyway
[14:57] <dimw1t> yeah, i just got kontact to figure out that i had stuff there.
[14:57] <dimw1t> i only updated to kubuntu 11.10 last week
[14:57] <dimw1t> (trying to keep the pain level low so i can keep productivity high.  gosh, i sound businessy)
[14:57] <BluesKaj> too many "demon daemons" running on this old pc isn't beneficial , especially when they aren't really needed
[14:58] <dimw1t> but it wasn't until today that i realized that all i had left to do was Refresh my contacts folders for them to show up.
[14:58] <dimw1t> shessh
[14:58] <dimw1t> the rewrite of akonadi was a good thing.  it sucked way worse before
[14:58] <dimw1t> too make places to screw up the pipeline
[14:58] <dimw1t> this new stuff looks much more "doable" at least as designed
[14:59] <dimw1t> so i went into kontact today and basically hit F5 on contacts and a second later they started showing up.
[14:59] <dimw1t> apparent disconnect between kontact and it's akonadi overlord
[14:59] <BluesKaj> glad to hear it's working for you , I got tired oif the notifactions  when akondi wasn't able to collect emails from my provider servers
[14:59] <dimw1t> so i tried with Calendar, Journal, and Tasks...  yup.  stuff came through.. finally
[15:00] <dimw1t> i'm taing a sacrificial machine and adding the kubuntu-backports to get kontact 4.8 to try
[15:00] <dimw1t> apparently it's got a lot more ironed out
[15:01] <dimw1t> BluesKaj: but that's the churn i was talking about.
[15:01] <dimw1t> i had barely recovered from the upgrade to 10.10
[15:08] <dimw1t> does anyone have guidance one whether one should whack ~/.kde when you upgrade or if the upgrades should *just work*?
[15:09] <Tm_T> dimw1t: I believe removing ~/.kde is bad thing to do (and if upgrade would require that, that's a bug)
[15:11] <lordievader> renaming .kde is safer
[15:11] <dimw1t> this time around (and the previous few) i've found it better to mv .kde .kde-backup and just start from scratch... but now you have to also kill .local, .config as well
[15:11] <dimw1t> at least .local/share/akonadi*
[15:11] <Tm_T> lordievader: even that shouldn't be needed
[15:12] <dimw1t> i agree, it *shouldn't*
[15:13] <lordievader> Tm_T, I'm sorry, I don't know what the problem is. I'm just stating that is is safer to rename the folder than to delete it.
[15:13] <dimw1t> but this time around, with the akonadi rewrite, i've found it helpful to whack all of kmail/kontact/akonadi/nepomuk cache/config/data
[15:13] <Tm_T> lordievader: indeed it is safer (:
[15:13] <dimw1t> but lordievader is correct, i don't rm it, i rename instead
[15:13] <lordievader> What is the problem, anyhow?
[15:14] <mr-rich> In Kate, how would I go about doing a replace with CR/LF?
[15:24] <mathieukh> Hi
[15:25] <lordievader> mathieukh, Hey
[15:31] <BluesKaj> heh , akonadi server configurations is repleat with all kinds of different errors
[15:35] <dimw1t> mr-rich: are you talking about making them all one or the other?
[15:36] <dimw1t> mr-rich: Tools -> End-of-line -> Unix or Windows
[15:36] <mr-rich> dimw1t: well, I got this spam with a javascript attached and it's all in one line. I want to break the lines at the semicolons ...
[15:37] <mr-rich> it's really cryptic code ...
[15:37] <dimw1t> ahhh
[15:38] <dimw1t> mr-rich: Replace
[15:38] <dimw1t> choose "Escape sequences"
[15:38] <dimw1t> then do Find:  ";"  and Replace:  "
[15:38] <dimw1t> sorry
[15:38] <dimw1t> "\n"
[15:38] <mr-rich> so, I want to replace ";" with ";[cr/lf]" ...
[15:38] <dimw1t> make the replace field ";\n"
[15:39] <mr-rich> in quotes?
[15:39] <dimw1t> no
[15:39] <dimw1t> Mode: Escape Sequences
[15:39] <dimw1t> that interprets \n as <CRLF>
[15:40] <mr-rich> crap ... I already junked it and emptied the trash ... next time ... :)
[15:41] <dimw1t> heh
[15:41] <dimw1t> vim and sed and python are also very powerful for such things
[15:45] <mr-rich> welp ... time to byte the bullet and install the new kernel ...
[16:10] <sky100> imagebin is nowt working .. hence cant post any snapshot links
[16:10] <sky100> not*
[16:10] <lordievader> !screenshot
[16:10] <sky100> has any one tried with imagebin lately?
[16:10] <lordievader> skfin, imagebin is working here
[16:11] <sky100> hey lordievader
[16:11] <sky100> i have not been able to get it working for few hrs
[16:12] <sky100> always says image type not allowed
[16:12] <lordievader> sky100, what type of image are you trying to upload?
[16:12] <sky100> i was trying to show a snpshot to BlueKaj .. which was a png
[16:13] <sky100> xtn was png
[16:13] <lordievader> sky100, and it doesn't exceed the 2mb limit?
[16:14] <sky100> ummm let me see
[16:14] <sky100> 893.6Kib
[16:14] <sky100> so it shd have been uploaded
[16:14] <lordievader> hmm strange, try to upload it as a jpg
[16:14] <sky100> ok
[16:15] <sky100> let me take a screenshot of my my current desktop
[16:16] <sky100> after taking snap i click SAVE AS & save it in my document
[16:16] <sky100> is it right ?
[16:16] <lordievader> uhu
[16:17] <sky100> wrong ?
[16:17] <sky100> i was browsing to the DOCUMENT through imagebin
[16:17] <sky100> & click submit
[16:18] <lordievader> Document? Not just an image? I.e. ".png" ".jpg" etc
[16:19] <sky100> i mean i was browsing to my documet folder
[16:21] <lordievader> Yes?
[16:22] <sky100> i was just saving the snapshot to my documen folder
[16:23] <sky100> browsing through imagebin
[16:24] <lordievader> sky100, you have done it before right? Do it the same way as you did then.
[16:24] <sky100> yea .. lordievader it went normally yesterday
[16:25] <sky100> dunno what has happened today
[16:25] <sky100> let me chek with the image i uploaded lastnite
[16:25] <sky100> let me put it in imagebin
[16:27] <sky100> yes lastnite's image is working
[16:27] <sky100> which i uploaded
[16:28] <lordievader> So what is the difference between the image of yesterday and the one of now?
[16:30] <mr-rich> Kernel installed ... time to reboot ...
[16:37] <skfin> lordievader: Good to know that.
[16:37] <skfin> lordievader: I haven't used imagebin lately but thanks for the information
[16:38] <lordievader> skfin, sry, I ment sky100
[16:38] <skfin> Yea I noticed ;)
[16:38] <skfin> You just have to make some fun out of these kind of situations
[16:38] <lordievader> skfin, Couldn't agree more :)
[16:39] <skfin> :)
[16:39] <sky100> http://imagebin.org/205716
[16:39] <sky100> yes got it right
[16:40] <sky100> had to be with  .png
[16:50] <mr-rich> Well, that was a bit shakey ...
[16:52] <meerkats> what are the advantages of kubuntu over xubuntu and ubuntu?
[16:54] <sky100> lordievader, i had to manipulate the directory to get wallpaper working after reboot ..
[16:55] <sky100> /home/ppp/.kde/share/wallpaper <<, had to put my preferred photos into that directory
[16:55] <sky100> copied & pasted
[16:56] <lordievader> sky100, I see
[16:58] <lordievader> meerkats, Kubuntu has the KDE window manager, Ubuntu has the Gnome window manager and Xubuntu has Xfce, about the last one I am not sure. I would say one is not necessarily better than the other, more like a matter of taste.
[16:58] <meerkats> lordievader, I have been told xubuntu is the fastest and lightest, true?
[16:58] <sky100> though Bluekaj was saying that he simply browse to the picture folder from Plasma desktop shell window , gets his photos , hit apply & OK & it sticks even after  reboot !
[16:59] <bazhang> meerkats, more like lubuntu
[16:59] <lordievader> sky100, true, that is normal behavior.
[16:59] <sky100> but dunno why wallpaper did not stick after reboot in my case!!
[17:04] <sky100> he was asking me if plasma desktop workspace is enabled
[17:04] <sky100> Setting/ startup& shut down ?autostart
[17:05] <sky100>  / autostart*
[17:05] <sky100> http://imagebin.org/205721 << thats the screenshot ..
[17:06] <lordievader> I'm not sure, I guess you need to talk to BluesKaj for that.
[17:06] <sky100> oh ok
[17:49] <lordievader> gotta go
[17:59] <georgelappies> does kubuntu-full install all the kde software from kde software collection?
[18:01] <Peace-> georgelappies: apt-cache show kubuntu-full+
[18:01] <Peace-> georgelappies: apt-cache show kubuntu-full
[18:02] <georgelappies> Peace: thanks :)
[18:08] <BluesKaj> ok no more akonadi/nepomuk servers on this setup
[18:21] <loco> plop
[18:21] <loco> any one know how to resize the partition of ubuntu?
[18:22] <bazhang> loco, with gparted live cd or ubuntu live cd
[18:22] <loco> i have ubuntu installed
[18:23] <loco> can i install tha package?
[18:23] <bazhang> you need to boot from a live cd
[18:24] <loco> is this easy to use?
[18:24] <bazhang> fairly
[18:25] <loco> cuz i'm beiginner lol
[18:25] <bazhang> of course have backups of important files loco
[18:26] <loco> ok thanks i will try it
[18:51] <lordievader> Hello
[19:12] <Ziut3K> houk
[19:12] <Ziut3K> I need a little help
[19:12] <Ziut3K> Have someone a few minutes ?
[19:12] <lordievader> Ziut3K, what's wrong?
[19:12] <sky100> lordievader,  ..hello
[19:13] <lordievader> sky100, hey
[19:13] <Ziut3K> lordievader: second
[19:13] <Ziut3K> sorry for my english
[19:13] <Ziut3K> on start
[19:13] <Ziut3K>  :P
[19:13] <Ziut3K> I am uploading a screenshot
[19:14] <Ziut3K> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/268/dyskm.png/
[19:14] <Ziut3K> lordievader: the problem is that I have many things on this partition
[19:14] <Ziut3K> and I cant do antyghing
[19:14] <Ziut3K> it's empty :<
[19:15] <Ziut3K> I cant find any solve of it :<
[19:15] <lordievader> Ziut3K, yes but it seems your partition is full
[19:15] <Ziut3K> yes
[19:15] <Ziut3K> but U have doplhin
[19:15] <Ziut3K> and it's empty
[19:16] <Ziut3K> I was trying search in console
[19:16] <lordievader> Do happen to know where this folder is mounted?
[19:16] <Ziut3K> but command ls is giving me nothing
[19:16] <lordievader> The ls command in the directory of your picture?
[19:17] <Ziut3K> lordievader: I thinked that maybe something with my kubuntu is wrong but on live cd is the same
[19:17] <Ziut3K> y
[19:17] <Ziut3K> I was trying ls
[19:17] <Ziut3K> root@ziut3k-desktop:/mnt/dysk# ls
[19:17] <Ziut3K> testdisk.log
[19:17] <Ziut3K> only testdisk log
[19:18] <lordievader> Ziut3K, Could you do a "sudo fdisk -l: for me?
[19:18] <Ziut3K> ok
[19:18] <lordievader> "sudo fdisk -l" *
[19:18] <Ziut3K> Disk /dev/sda: 500.1 GB, 500107862016 bytes
[19:18] <Ziut3K> głowic: 255, sektorów/ścieżkę: 63, cylindrów: 60801, w sumie sektorów: 976773168
[19:18] <Ziut3K> Jednostka = sektorów, czyli 1 * 512 = 512 bajtów
[19:18] <Ziut3K> Rozmiar sektora (logiczny/fizyczny) w bajtach: 512 / 512
[19:18] <Ziut3K> Rozmiar we/wy (minimalny/optymalny) w bajtach: 512 / 512
[19:18] <Ziut3K> Identyfikator dysku: 0x000850e1
[19:18] <FloodBotK1> Ziut3K: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:37] <loco> any one know to take internet from iphone to ubuntu
[19:38] <lordievader> loco, I don't know myself, but perhaps this can help you: http://www.xappsoftware.com/wordpress/2010/10/26/ubuntu-10-10-and-iphone-tethering-solved-updated/
[19:40] <loco> ok thnx i will see it
[19:45] <ibiwor> Hello! I recently read about resetting KDE by removing ~/.kde files and thought of trying it out in virtual machine KDE. But after logging in vm, I thought Ctrl+Alt+F1 would take me to vm's tty1 where I could try resetting KDE after making few changes in the vm but it didn't! I didn't realise I'm on my host tty1 and the command sudo rm -rf ~/.kde was already executed.
[19:46] <ibiwor> Thankfully, I had .kde backup lying around taken 2 days ago that I immediately copied back the contents but i now face these configuration errors - http://imagebin.org/205739 Can anyone please help me fix it?
[19:47] <lordievader> ibiwor, that does not sound good, but it seems to be an issue of permission.
[19:47] <lordievader> Let me check what the default permission for the home dir is.
[19:48] <Tm_T> one should first make sure the user is the owner for all those files by summoning "sudo chown <user>:<user> -R /home/<user>/.kde"
[19:48] <Tm_T> where <user> should be replaced with said username
[19:49] <ibiwor> Tm_T: Yes, I did that
[19:49] <ibiwor> I didn't restart kdm after that though Tm_T , fearing that it won't work
[19:49] <lordievader> I read here that it is usually 664, in other words chmod -R 664 /home/<USER>
[19:50] <ibiwor> fearful*
[19:50] <lordievader> Might need a sudo in front of it.
[19:50] <Tm_T> lordievader: no, that wouldn't work
[19:50] <ibiwor> sure, I'll try that lordievader
[19:50] <ibiwor> um
[19:51] <lordievader> Tm_T, why not?
[19:51] <Tm_T> there's files in homedir that should not be readable others by the user itself (:
[19:51] <ibiwor> Tm_T: I have already executed the command you said, should I logout and login?
[19:53] <Tm_T> ibiwor: try, and if that doesn't do it, then "sudo chmod u+w -R /home/<username>/.kde
[19:53] <ibiwor> Tm_T: ?
[19:53] <ibiwor> Sure, brb
[19:59] <ricky1966> hi everybody
[19:59] <lordievader> ricky1966, hey
[20:00] <ricky1966> i've a print server ethernet, usb cabled with my printer, on windows all gone well, on linux, kubuntu, the printer is very slowly
[20:06] <ibiwor> Thanks Tm_T : I no longer get those errors :) There is some glitch while after kdm - I noticed that after entering password when it tries to load KDE(the 4-5 icons which comes), it stopped and took me back to login screen again. It happened twice till now. And, some of the desktop effects are not working
[20:08] <ibiwor> Tm_T: Should I try <sudo chmod u+w -R /home/<username>/.kde> ?
[20:13] <Tm_T> ibiwor: sure
[20:13] <ricky1966> Is possible to use the win xp driver, for printer, with linux ?
[20:15] <Tm_T> ricky1966: not really, no
[20:15] <ibiwor> Tm_T: And for refernce, could you pastebin yours <ls -lR ~/.kde> please?
[20:16] <Tm_T> no, not really (:
[20:17] <Tm_T> you get better reference by creating temporary user in your system
[20:17] <ibiwor> or umm ls -l?
[20:17] <ibiwor> Oh, yes. Thanks, that will do