| ojwb | not sure if there's much you can do about it, but vector.us seem to be spamming people who have translated things on launchpad | 01:27 |
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| ojwb | i can forward the mail I received if you want it | 01:28 |
| lifeless | ojwb: sure, or open a bug and attach it | 01:48 |
| ojwb | lifeless: I could, but if there's not much that can be done it seems a waste of everyone's time | 01:48 |
| lifeless | hard to say what can be done without the nfo | 01:50 |
| ojwb | lifeless: hmm, what's best to file it against? | 02:01 |
| lifeless | launchpad ? | 02:02 |
| Pikkachu | hi, how to avoid a PPA build to use LP translations instead of original po files? | 02:06 |
| EvilResistance | and he quits before getting an answer xD | 02:08 |
| ojwb | lifeless: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/967936 | 03:05 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 967936 in Launchpad itself "<email address hidden> is spamming launchpad translators" [Undecided,New] | 03:05 |
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| mwotton | hi all. having a bit of trouble - i've created a source package, and dput tells me it's been correctly signed and uploaded, but i can see no trace of it on the PPA page. is there a way to check progresS? | 06:36 |
| bigjools-afk | https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+faq/227 | 06:39 |
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| chrisccoulson | is anyone else struggling to upload to PPA's? | 10:01 |
| chrisccoulson | Connection failed, aborting. Check your network [Errno 111] Connection refused | 10:01 |
| apw | is launchpad being updated, or is 'Uh oh!' something to worry about | 10:01 |
| wgrant | It was down for 70 seconds for a DB update | 10:01 |
| czajkowski | chrisccoulson: has it been like this all morning or just now ? | 10:02 |
| wgrant | 1000-1005 daily is a DB upgrade window | 10:02 |
| chrisccoulson | czajkowski, just now | 10:02 |
| czajkowski | chrisccoulson: well what wgrant said then :) | 10:02 |
| czajkowski | daily maintence window | 10:02 |
| wgrant | Nope | 10:02 |
| wgrant | This is different :/ | 10:02 |
| czajkowski | :( | 10:02 |
| apw | wgrant, perhaps we could get the 'Uh oh!' page to list the maintenance window so i don't come and complain :) | 10:03 |
| apw | wgrant, and general lp pages are back for me | 10:03 |
| wgrant | chrisccoulson: OK, turns out the upload downtime is related, should be back shortly. | 10:05 |
| chrisccoulson | wgrant, thanks | 10:06 |
| wgrant | chrisccoulson: It's back. | 10:06 |
| apw | czajkowski, actually perhaps we could add the downtime window to the /topic here | 10:07 |
| chrisccoulson | excellent, thanks | 10:07 |
| wgrant | It's getting shorter and shorter, and people ask here maybe 1/10 times we do it, so it seems not entirely necessary. | 10:09 |
| wgrant | The topic is already very long :( | 10:09 |
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| * ScottK got an email about https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/192063 allegedly because I'm subscribed. Any idea how that might be the case? | 19:04 | |
| czajkowski | ScottK: odd have you gotten any other question mail ? | 19:06 |
| ScottK | Nope. Just that one. | 19:06 |
| ScottK | X-Launchpad-Message-Rationale: Subscriber | 19:06 |
| czajkowski | lifeless: any idea how that would happen ? | 19:06 |
| lifeless | ScottK: whats in the body of the mail ? | 19:07 |
| lifeless | ScottK: e.g. can you pastebin the raw message somewhere ? | 19:07 |
| ScottK | Sure. Just a moment. | 19:07 |
| ScottK | lifeless: http://paste.debian.net/161392/ | 19:08 |
| lifeless | ScottK: are you an answer contact for Ubuntu ? | 19:11 |
| ScottK | Not as far as I know. | 19:12 |
| ScottK | I end up subscribed to stuff due to having weird permissions sometimes. | 19:12 |
| lifeless | so you're clearly not a subscriber direct or indirect *now* | 19:12 |
| ScottK | How do check? | 19:12 |
| lifeless | https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu somewhere | 19:13 |
| lifeless | sinzui: ^ oh hai. I think you might be able to help. | 19:13 |
| ScottK | I am not an answer contact for Ubuntu. | 19:15 |
| sinzui | I agree that ScottK is not an answer contact for anything: https://answers.launchpad.net/~scottk/+answer-contact-for | 19:16 |
| lifeless | sinzui: http://paste.debian.net/161392/ I cannot see a linked bug. | 19:17 |
| sinzui | the pastebin say a subscriber to question 192063 | 19:17 |
| lifeless | sinzui: Indeed, but he doesn't seem to be there, and I am hopeful that ScottK has enough clue not to have unsubscribed and be setting us a brain teaser | 19:18 |
| ScottK | No. Not this time. | 19:18 |
| sinzui | I agree he is not listed | 19:18 |
| lifeless | sinzui: I am at a loss | 19:18 |
| ScottK | Might be fun to try some other time though. | 19:18 |
| czajkowski | hmm we didnt have very many questions logged today | 19:19 |
| czajkowski | and you've not gotten any other mail | 19:19 |
| ScottK | No. I didn't get the original mail for the question. | 19:19 |
| ScottK | lifeless: New topic: Yesterday I got an email for a rejected upload to somebody's PPA that was an attempt to reupload a Debian upload of mine. Is it known that LP emails Uploaders: for failed PPA uploads? | 19:20 |
| lifeless | ScottK: lets see | 19:20 |
| ScottK | I'll pastebin that one too | 19:20 |
| lifeless | ScottK: bug 117155 and | 19:21 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 117155 in Launchpad itself "soyuz emails are vague about why they are being sent to a given user" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/117155 | 19:21 |
| ScottK | http://paste.debian.net/161394/ | 19:22 |
| ScottK | This one should never have been sent. | 19:22 |
| ScottK | Vague or not. | 19:22 |
| lifeless | yes, I got that | 19:23 |
| lifeless | bug 684450 might be related | 19:23 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 684450 in Launchpad itself "Totally unrelated PPA referenced in subject of upload rejection email" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/684450 | 19:23 |
| lifeless | bug 473580 | 19:24 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 473580 in Launchpad itself "Sends reject emails to Changed-By address when signed + uploaded to a third-party PPA" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/473580 | 19:24 |
| lifeless | I think thats the one | 19:24 |
| lifeless | bug 798497 looks simila | 19:24 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 798497 in Launchpad itself "Email mistakenly sent to unrelated party when a build is cancelled" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/798497 | 19:24 |
| lifeless | r | 19:24 |
| ScottK | Yes. That's the one (473580) | 19:25 |
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| lifeless | sinzui: ScottK: mystery solved. Someone has subscribed ubuntu-members. And someone else noticed and unsubscribed. | 20:05 |
| ScottK | lifeless: Thanks. | 20:05 |
| lifeless | however, we don't supply enough detail in the rationale to figure this out | 20:05 |
| lifeless | ScottK: thank czajkowski :P | 20:05 |
| sinzui | oh fab. lifelessI was suspecting that but there is no trail in the UI. How did you discover this? | 20:06 |
| czajkowski | ScottK: you weren't the only one to notice folks in locoteams noticed it as well | 20:06 |
| lifeless | I'm just bearing good news. | 20:06 |
| lifeless | sinzui: czajkowski was told on irc/in some channel I don't lurk in | 20:06 |
| czajkowski | sinzui: someone did in -locoteams | 20:06 |
| czajkowski | :) | 20:06 |
| sinzui | excellet | 20:06 |
| czajkowski | community to the rescue :) | 20:06 |
| lifeless | ScottK: could you perhaps look for/file a bug noting that the rationale was insufficient to determine why you got the mail ? | 20:07 |
| ScottK | Sure. | 20:09 |
| ScottK | If I type bugs.l my firefox gives https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+filebug as the first choice. | 20:10 |
| lifeless | nice | 20:11 |
| ScottK | lifeless: Bug #968578 | 20:14 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 968578 in Launchpad itself "Unable to figure out why I got mail" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/968578 | 20:14 |
| lifeless | thanks | 20:16 |
| ScottK | You're welcome | 20:24 |
| balloons | quick question on using dput with ppa's.. seems like lp doesn't process my build if I use an older version number than what is currently contained in the package.. it this correct? | 22:34 |
| wgrant | balloons: Yes, you'll get a rejection email in that case. | 22:34 |
| balloons | thanks wgrant | 22:36 |
| Pikkachu | hi, these packages should already be deleted completely (passed 7 days): https://launchpad.net/~renatosilva/+archive/ppa/+packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=&field.series_filter= | 23:35 |
| Pikkachu | what's happening?? | 23:35 |
| EvilResistance | Status: Deleted | 23:36 |
| EvilResistance | its already not published | 23:36 |
| Pikkachu | a deleted status is not a deletion | 23:36 |
| Pikkachu | I already saw that | 23:36 |
| Pikkachu | the docs say it would be really deleted within 7 days | 23:37 |
| Pikkachu | I was waiting for that happen, but it didn't | 23:37 |
| wgrant | Pikkachu: Why are you waiting? | 23:37 |
| wgrant | It means nothing. | 23:37 |
| Pikkachu | wgrant: it what? | 23:37 |
| wgrant | It's purely a disk space recovery measure. Them being permanently deleted provides no benefit to you. | 23:38 |
| wgrant | So there's no reason to wait. | 23:38 |
| Pikkachu | and I'm expecting, because docs are supposed to be correct | 23:38 |
| wgrant | Pikkachu: The docs are there to warn you that things may not be recoverable after a week. | 23:39 |
| Pikkachu | it does provide benefit to me because they are all wrong packages | 23:39 |
| wgrant | We don't delete them the moment they're a week + 1 second old. | 23:39 |
| wgrant | No. | 23:39 |
| wgrant | You still can't upload the same version ever again. | 23:39 |
| wgrant | Even once we delete the files. | 23:39 |
| Pikkachu | I accidentally created them in the process of building them (I assumed the docs were ok about the packages being truly deleted within 7 days) | 23:40 |
| Pikkachu | still can't even when truly deleted? this is odd... | 23:41 |
| wgrant | We are allowed to irretrievably remove the files after one week. But that doesn't change the usual archive consistency rules, which prevent a duplicate version from being uploaded. | 23:41 |
| Pikkachu | so I messed up with my ppa without even noticing :( | 23:42 |
| wgrant | Hm? | 23:42 |
| wgrant | Just change the version. | 23:42 |
| wgrant | Easyu. | 23:42 |
| Pikkachu | the current one is already ok | 23:42 |
| Pikkachu | I just appreciate real deletion of really really useless stuff | 23:42 |
| Pikkachu | I think the reminders for avoiding upload to the same versions are just ok, as the versions are date-based | 23:43 |
| ojwb | even if it's gone from the PPA, someone may have installed it, so reusing the version is still bad | 23:46 |
| Pikkachu | the error with "-P20120311" and "-P20120315" was using debian version (dash), and with "~P20120323" was that it does not supersede "0ubuntu2" as I was naturally thinking, and the error with "1:2.10.0-0ubuntu2" I can't really recall | 23:46 |
| Pikkachu | ojwb: yeah I understand the version reusing problem... but it won't affect me as I use date as version | 23:47 |
| ojwb | ~<something> sorts before nothing | 23:47 |
| Pikkachu | ojwb: now I know | 23:48 |
| Pikkachu | well there's one package which is not yet 7 days old, but all the others are almost 11 days old | 23:49 |
| Pikkachu | I think I'll come back here later for requesting the deletion then, thanks all... | 23:49 |
| wgrant | Pikkachu: Why do you care that they are deleted? | 23:49 |
| wgrant | They will still appear on that page. | 23:50 |
| wgrant | It's just that the files are unrecoverable. | 23:50 |
| Pikkachu | oh sorry I think there were more differences in the packages, like one with standalone patch and other with separate ones in debian/patches | 23:50 |
| wgrant | I'm confused. | 23:50 |
| Pikkachu | wgrant: all the wrong packages are available for download | 23:51 |
| wgrant | If someone goes looking for them, yes. | 23:51 |
| Pikkachu | which is undesirable | 23:51 |
| Pikkachu | given that they're wrong packages | 23:51 |
| wgrant | There are lots of wrong things available for download all over the Internet if people go looking at things that people have said not to look at. | 23:51 |
| wgrant | If you're installing deleted packages without knowing exactly what you're doing, you probably have bigger problems. | 23:52 |
| Pikkachu | I don't want to join the wrong people | 23:52 |
| Pikkachu | well, ok | 23:52 |
| Pikkachu | I will ask later I think, but this is really personal... I do not like false deletions | 23:53 |
| Pikkachu | I would call it "deactivated" instead | 23:53 |
| Pikkachu | thanks all anyway | 23:53 |
| Pikkachu | a diff between the apt-get sourced versions should be empty or mostly empty though (if you suspect I'm trying to do something malicious...) | 23:55 |
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