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bitplane-Does anyone else have a crash when trying to save DAAP settings in Rhythmbox's DAAP plugin page?00:05
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staticsafehey guys, I just instelled Ubuntu 12.04 on my Macbook Pro (5,5), I'm having issues with controlling the brightness and the keyboard backlight setting. Any help is appreciated.01:35
myersgwhats new in beta 2, is it stable should I upgrade, and how is the new sound coming?01:39
myersganyone here?01:39
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bitplane-myersg: it has HUD, Rhythmbox replaced Banshee01:44
bitplane-apparently better multi-monitor support01:44
bitplane-not sure what else, probably loads of stuff01:44
myersgok01:45
bitplane-can someone try to reproduce a bug for me please?01:47
myersgit it worth the upgrade?01:49
ssfdre38myersg, its not yet at beta 2 its still beta 1 but they are fixing up the page for beta 2 but if you have beta 1 then just continue with the updates to go to beta 2 and then the release01:53
bitplane-myersg: dunno yet. seems okay to me so far, pretty usable on my laptop01:53
bitplane-I've been using it about 2 hours and during that time found a couple of annoying bugs, but it's usable01:54
bitplane-ssfdre38: can you do a quick test for me please? open rhythmbox, edit -> plugins, daap -> preferences. change name of server and close: does it segfault?01:55
ssfdre38bitplane-, i dont have it on my laptop its still 11.1002:01
bitplane-ah okay, thanks anyway02:10
bitplane-can anyone else help?02:10
ssfdre38im thinking of just doing it on my laptop to make a video on it02:16
myersgwhat code do i type in the command thing to upgrade?02:17
ssfdre38what type of upgrade?02:18
ssfdre38myersg, are you talking about from version to version or system upgrade02:30
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scar3crowhow to accelerate intel 82g33/g31 vidoe card?02:45
myersgI don't know, version 5.0.2 worked great for me02:48
myersgor sorry wrong thing02:48
scar3crowor rather how to dedicate x ammount of shared ram permanently...02:48
myersgsystem upgrade02:48
scar3crowjust did that...02:49
ssfdre38myersg, sudo apt-get upgrade02:57
c_smith12.04 keeps getting better! :D03:05
c_smithRhythmbox is more stable than ever, and I never thought I'd say it, but Unity is getting close to a point I could actually like it.03:06
UberDuperWhat happened to snmpd?03:18
UberDuperIt's got like no mibs.03:18
UberDuperSo I installed this snmp-mib-downloader.. It fetches a bunch of mibs. Restart snmpd.. doesn't use them.03:18
c_smithUberDuper,  you DO know that that is just a Daemon, right?03:19
UberDuperI've never had to go fetch mibs seperately from the snmpd (and dependent) packages.03:21
c_smithfrom what I'm reading on the online snmpd manpage, mibs aren't even used by the daemon.03:22
c_smithit only listens to ports.03:22
UberDuperI must have something else broken then.03:22
c_smithand it handles requests from SNMP managers.03:23
c_smithlike I said, it's only a daemon, users don't usually need to interact with daemons.03:23
ssfdre38no they just control them03:24
UberDuperI prefer to dominate them.03:24
c_smithlol03:25
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bitplane-can someone do a quick test for me please? open rhythmbox, edit -> plugins, daap -> preferences. change name of server and tab out of the box: does it segfault?03:39
bitplane-HELP A BROTHA OUT. THREE CLICKS IS ALL I ASK!!1103:41
trismbitplane-: yup03:49
bitplane-trism, it crashes? cool thanks :)04:09
bitplane-the devs in #rhythmbox @ GimpNet coouldn.t reproduce it. Any chance you can click the "this bug affects me" please? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/+bug/96792404:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 967924 in rhythmbox (Ubuntu) "rhythmbox DAAP plugin causes crash when saving settings" [Medium,Confirmed]04:10
trismbitplane-: already did, hence the confirmed04:13
darkfibermy session froze last night, so i shutdown and everything seemed fine, now when i try to boot i can login but cant get the desktop, im in recovery console now, how do i fix this?04:20
darkfibermy network connections froze last night, so i shutdown and everything seemed fine, now when i try to boot i can login but cant get the desktop, im in recovery console now, how do i fix this?04:28
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st1window title font doesn't follow system wide zoom in/out, what package should I report this to?06:33
lotuspsychjeis precise optimized for SSD drives completly?08:15
anthroposi doubt it, I don't think it added the discard option to my fstab automatically08:16
anthroposbut you could check that08:16
st1is there a way to disable unity change color based on wallpaper?08:29
AtomicSparkETA on Beta 2 images?09:35
MCRNow I got everything up-and-running here I need for a productive system except Unity-3d/Compiz and Emerald.10:07
MCRSo I filed another bug report/regression on Precise I would very much like to see fixed (sorry for that :-D): https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/96811210:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 968112 in compiz (Ubuntu) "Emerald (the original Compiz Window Decorator) fails to compile on Ubuntu 12.04 Precise, while it was working on all Ubuntu versions before" [Undecided,New]10:07
OnlyodinAny opinions as to whether I should upgrade to Beta 1 now, or wait for Beta 2?10:14
brobostigonif memory server, beta2 is very soon, so beta1, being almost a month ago, will be old.10:15
brobostigoni would grab the daily.10:16
brobostigonserves*10:17
OnlyodinI was just going to do an update-manager -d10:17
brobostigoni do it with aptitude safe-upgrade, but same result.10:18
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DropsOfSerenityI have a question, does ubuntu have any plans to provide a failsafe for if/when compiz crashes, one cannot assume it to be infallable, however if it does crash, you are left with window borderless windowed, and often no way to get them back unless your lucky enough for alt-f2 to work so you can type compiz --replace10:52
marios__Hello12:12
marios__I wanted to report a bug using launchpad, but for some reason I keep getting timeouts12:12
marios__The problem is with the nfs-kernel-server package, in the init.d file12:13
marios__There are calls to the rpcinfo binary12:13
marios__Using either a fixed path or a prefix12:13
marios__problem is, it's wrong12:13
marios__instead of /usr/bin/rpcinfo it should be /usr/sbin/rpcinfo12:13
marios__or $PREFIX/sbin/rpcinfo12:13
Picimarios__: You'll just need to keep retrying on launchpad.  Reporting a problem here has little chance of it reaching the (right) developers.12:14
marios__This causes NFS to be started as v2/v3/v4, but mountd isn't - as a result nfsv3 isn't usable12:14
marios__Well I don't have much time now to mess with it, and it's really an easy fix - so I thought maybe someone would have better luck that me with the bug reporting platform12:15
jatidoes anybody test ubuntu in a Samsung np530 14' laptop?12:58
joeliostrange issue on precise.. seem to have lost my ability to alt-tab and some other shortcuts (although custom ones work)12:58
joelio(in gnome shell)12:59
c3ssohello13:29
c3ssogtk file-chooser: Autocompletion - Dropdown-list: selection fails13:29
c3ssohttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/+bug/96449113:29
ubottuLaunchpad bug 964491 in gtk+3.0 (Ubuntu) "gtk file-chooser: Autocompletion - Dropdown-list: selection fails" [Undecided,New]13:29
c3ssoany gtk hacker here?13:30
c3ssoAm I the only one who is experieencing this? has somebody tried?13:31
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c3sso any gtk hacker here?13:57
roasted:)14:58
DropsOfSerenityI have a question, does ubuntu have any plans to provide a failsafe for if/when compiz crashes, one cannot assume it to be infallable, however if it does crash, you are left with window borderless windowed, and often no way to get them back unless your lucky enough for alt-f2 to work so you can type compiz --replace15:07
DaekdroomDropsOfSerenity, usually when compiz crashes, unity starts a new process.15:08
DaekdroomAtleast that's how it works for me.15:09
DaekdroomHowever, if it doesn't start at all with the session, I guess it falls to Unity2D15:09
DropsOfSerenityDaekdroom, it doesn't seem to fall back to anything for me, just loses window decorators15:09
DropsOfSerenitynor does it restart most of the time15:10
DropsOfSerenitysometimes I even lose the capability to run alt-f2 commands to start it up again, leaving me no other option but to ctrl-alt-f1 and restart my window manager15:10
roastedIs there a way to rearrange the items of the unity lens? I really could care less for "recent items"15:10
roastedI'd rather have all of my apps listed in the very initial view15:10
c3ssofallback mode now also uses compiz  by default.15:40
cousin_luigiHello.15:46
cousin_luigiWhat's the story with beta2?15:46
astraljavacousin_luigi: Could you be more specific?15:47
cousin_luigiastraljava: wasn't it supposed to be out today?15:49
astraljavacousin_luigi: Yes, but today lasts for quite some while, still. At least for UTC, which is what counts in these matters.15:50
cousin_luigiastraljava: Ok.15:51
bazhang!info banshee15:56
ubottubanshee (source: banshee): Media Management and Playback application. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.4.0-1ubuntu3 (precise), package size 4383 kB, installed size 13315 kB15:57
cousin_luigibbl16:03
Guest80717hey guys, tried to do an update yesterday/today and got this error in the terminal: Failed to fetch gzip:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precise_multiverse_source_Sources  Hash Sum mismatch16:06
astraljavaGuest80717: Could be just an out-of-date mirror. Try some others, or the main archive (ie. without a country-code at the beginning).16:10
EvilResistanceany ETA on the release of 12.04b2?  I am trying to silence the AskUbuntu people who keep asking continually about its release by giving them an ETA16:13
EvilResistance(I could say 23:59 UTC or something, though, if I have to)16:13
bazhangdo what release party does16:17
Guest80717how do i edit that astraljava16:19
astraljavaGuest80717: `sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list` gives you write permissions to the file.16:29
staticsafeor16:30
staticsafeuse sudo -e /etc/apt/sources.list (uses your $EDITOR variable)16:30
astraljavaSure.16:31
MCRor simply use the update-manager if you want a GUI :) hi astraljava :)16:31
Guest80717thanks astraljava , that did the trick.16:32
Guest80717However, diff issue just popped up : wine-gecko1.4 : Breaks: wine-gecko1.4:i386 (!= 1.4.0-0ubuntu1) but 1.4.0-0ubuntu2 is installed16:32
astraljavaMCR: Hello! Or `sudo sed -i s/us.archive/archive/g /etc/apt/sources.list` to make the change without non-interactively.16:32
astraljavaHow long do you want to continue this game? :)16:32
Guest80717hah16:32
MCRhehe16:32
Guest80717well, not sure what the best course of action is here16:33
MCRGuest80717: do just an upgrade, not dist-upgrade16:33
Guest80717i did an upgrade16:33
Guest80717sudo apt-get upgrade16:33
Guest80717not a dist-upgrade16:33
MCRthen remove and reinstall16:33
MCRgotta go16:35
Guest80717ok16:40
Guest80717if i try to remove it, i get the same unmet dependency error16:41
astraljavaGuest80717: It's possible that the archives just aren't in sync currently, the beta-2 images are about to be released, so final touches are being put right as we type.16:48
supNowI'm having some input issues with my 12.04 install. I ran the upgrade from 11.10 where it worked fine. I seem to be limited to how many keys on kb will be accepted16:49
supNowalso in order to use mousewheel I must release all keys from keyboard for it to work. note: had issue while running ioquake16:49
BLZbubbado the precise "mac" isos work on an apple xserve server?  they are efi-only16:53
BLZbubbai have a few different models if you need me to test16:55
mikeconceptswhere should I watch for beta2 desktop download when it is available?17:27
bazhangthe topic here should change at some point17:30
mikeconceptsthanks17:31
|rt|anyone else having issues with search on launchpad?17:34
BLZbubbamikeconcepts: you can grab the daily build; i'll bet it's pretty close17:37
ironhalikapt just downloaded 160 updated packages, so its pretty much beta 2 now17:38
ironhalikfrom the repositories stand point17:38
mikeconceptsthanks BLZbubba, I have tried that 4 times in the last few weeks, nm-applet crash, first two times so no internet, then last time couple days ago installer crashes so I've yet to get a working beta17:40
mikeconceptshope beta2 lets me install17:40
BLZbubbathat's unfortunate.  i upgraded all 4 of my mythtv boxes and it's doing ok.  i am an enemy of #!$^ network manager; i just use /etc/network/interfaces and kill that piece of junk17:41
BLZbubbait is good for wireless, that's about it17:42
mikeconceptsBLZbubba: I will do that for sure, thanks17:42
ssfdre38well i now have beta 1 on my laptop17:43
ssfdre38who uses gnome-panel on here?17:45
BLZbubbai use gnome fallback, but it isn't quite the same as the real gnome panel17:45
BLZbubbahaven't tried on precise yet17:46
ssfdre38well i use it and its better but the bottom panel does flicker from back to white17:46
BLZbubbaunity allows for 2 dimensional sets of virtual workspaces, though, so I am seriously considering switching to that17:46
BLZbubbagnome 3 is just too painful17:46
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BLZbubbaoh that's right my myth frontends both use gnome fallback on precise; i don't see any panel weirdness though17:47
BLZbubbathat's right, the deal killer for unity was that stupid panel that you can't get rid of17:48
ssfdre38well http://images.ssfdre38.com/?v=4bf9K.png shows you what im talking about17:48
BLZbubbait needs to let full screen apps cover it up17:48
ssfdre38i just took all that out, i dont want to deal with it17:49
BLZbubbatime to bring back wm2, the ultimate window manager!!!!17:49
ssfdre38hey what is the true path of bender?17:55
bipolarCan anyone help me with this very strange (to me) issue with an expect script and the left arrow? I can't seem to get the interact command to capture the keypress. Here's a pastebin: http://pastebin.com/KU8aUFJM18:03
bipolaroops...wrong channel... sorry.18:03
ssfdre38do i even want to know what your trying to do or do i already know and you should just trash it?18:05
Guest80717ooh updates18:29
Guest80717yay18:29
neglesaksthe small cd images TORRENTS (USE TORRENTS!) are available at releases.ubuntu.com18:33
Guest80717i had 14 packages kept back18:33
Guest80717interesting.18:33
Guest80717wond er why18:33
Guest80717control panel and unity packages almost all of them18:34
Guest80717now my chrome doesn't support flash.18:35
Guest80717interesting18:35
trismGuest80717: flash was updated, just restart the browser and it should work again18:36
trismGuest80717: (did the same thing to me)18:36
FernandoMiguelolá18:36
Guest80717hah. ok18:36
graingertcan anyone who is on Ubuntu 12.04 run import requests\nrequests.post("https://browserid.org/verify", data={})18:37
graingertunder python?18:37
graingerthttp://paste.ubuntu.com/906056/18:38
Guest80717i saw that a python package was kept back18:38
jtaylorI get a timeout18:39
graingertjtaylor: you get a timeout?18:39
FernandoMigueldarn18:41
FernandoMiguelI never tough UEFI would be so BADDDDDDDDDD18:41
FernandoMigueltook me 2h to get it ready18:41
FernandoMiguel:(18:41
FernandoMigueland I still have no idea what to do, if I need to do it again18:41
FernandoMiguelfrak18:41
graingertjtaylor: you should get {"status":"failure","reason":"need assertion and audience"}18:42
jtaylorI don't18:43
jtaylorbtw you are not using the packaged version18:43
graingertyes18:45
graingertdo you know how I can revert to the packaged version?18:45
graingertand can you try the pip version?18:45
jtaylorthere is probably a .pth file /usr/lib/python2.7/ pointing to local18:46
graingertI can pip uninstall18:46
jtaylorremoving it should change back to the packaged version18:46
jtaylorwith the pi version I get the same error18:47
graingertjtaylor: have you got ubuntu 11.10 ?18:48
graingerton any nearby machines?18:48
jtaylorwhy?18:49
graingertit might be a regression18:49
graingertthe packaged version is not bubbling the exception properly18:49
graingertit catches the SSL exception and fires a Timeout18:50
graingertjtaylor: I was wondering if this was an issue in ubuntu18:50
graingertand not python18:50
jtaylorso the ssl exception is the expected result?18:50
graingertno18:51
jtayloroneiric gets <Response [200]>18:51
graingertwell that's what it should do18:51
graingertbut not the expected result ;) should be <Response [400]> but that's browserID18:52
graingertso yeah it looks like there is something wrong with python ssl in ubuntu 12.0418:52
jtaylorsupport for sslv2 has been removed so far I know18:53
graingertjtaylor: oh?18:53
jtaylorhttp://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=58970618:54
ubottuDebian bug 589706 in openssl "SSLv2 should be disabled" [Normal,Fixed]18:54
graingertwhy does curl work?18:55
maximiliusguys, i have constant skipping when i listen to MP3 files - how can i troubleshoot this?18:55
jtaylorit should also be disabled in oneiric18:55
graingertjtaylor: so it's not that then18:55
graingertwhat does SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO actually mean?18:55
jtaylordepends maybe it still links against 0.9.818:55
jtaylorSSL23 is some v2<->v3 thing18:55
jtaylorwhich should be gone18:56
graingertah so it's python linking against the new openssl18:56
graingertbut using openssl alone works fine18:56
roastedHello! Can you customize the items within the dash view?18:56
graingertjtaylor: openssl s_client -connect browserid.org:44318:56
graingertjtaylor: https://github.com/mozilla/django-browserid/issues/5318:57
graingertjtaylor: so what do you think is this browserid's fault?19:02
jtaylorno idea19:06
jtaylorlet me try with the old ssl19:07
graingertold ssl?19:07
jtaylorhm no that won't work their not binary compatible19:08
jtaylornatty it is then19:08
graingert?19:08
jtaylornatty still has 0.9.819:09
jtaylorworks with the oneiric version in natty19:11
jtaylorso its caused by openssl 1.0.0 removing sslv2 support19:12
jtaylorprobably an issue with the site or request trying to use the wrong protocol19:12
graingertokay, can you comment on the issue?19:12
graingertor shall I just paste what you said?19:12
jtaylorI'm probably not really that qualified in web stuff, I guess the django people now better19:13
graingertI don't think it's an issue in django19:13
jtaylorthe information you posted should be enough for them to find the issue19:13
graingertit's a config issue on their server19:13
graingertyes but I think the process you used to determine that it was openssl removing support19:13
graingertby using oneiric version in natty19:14
graingertwould be of use to these people19:14
jtaylorI'll post that19:14
graingertawesome, thank-you very much19:14
roasted:(19:19
roastedAnybody know if it's possible to change some stuff around in Unity's dash view?19:19
ssfdre38like?19:19
graingertjtaylor: there seems to be a typo "I tried the same with python-request version from ubuntu 12.04 (0.8.2-1) installed in ubuntu 11.04 and got "...?19:19
roastedI'd like to have my apps listed first vs having to go through some menu options each time to get to that view19:19
jtaylorfixed it already19:19
roastedI guess that's a no? :(19:25
ssfdre38i use gnome-panel so i dont deal with Unity19:29
roasted:(19:33
graingertjtaylor: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssl/+bug/86113719:34
ubottuLaunchpad bug 861137 in openssl (Ubuntu) "Openssl TLS errors while connecting to SSLv3 sites" [Undecided,Confirmed]19:34
Logan_whoa19:40
Logan_gnome-shell is actually good now!19:40
Logan_I might use this instead of Unity.19:40
MrChrisDruifLogan_; I already AM using it instead of Unity19:41
Logan_MrChrisDruif: You've gotten used to it?19:41
krnekheleshLogan_: All this talk about gnome-shell is really making me curious to try out gnome shell 3.419:42
krnekheleshI used to use it few months back19:42
Logan_It was really broken earlier on, but it's feeling more polished now.19:42
MrChrisDruifLogan_; to Unity? NEVER! ^_^19:43
Logan_haha19:43
MrChrisDruifYou?19:44
MrChrisDruifOh, hang on! I've got an issue with my internet connection from time to time19:44
MrChrisDruifCan someone  PLEASE help me diagnose if it's just my installation or if it's my ISP19:45
staticsafewhat is the issue?19:45
Logan_Do you know why my CTRL-ALT-T isn't working to open Terminal in Gnome3?19:45
MrChrisDruifstaticsafe; from time to time I get some time-out connection error19:45
MrChrisDruifLogan_; afraid not, that was an other issue with me19:46
staticsafehmm wireless or wired?19:46
MrChrisDruifBut I can live with that one19:46
MrChrisDruifstaticsafe; wireless19:46
MrChrisDruifBut I can touch my wireless router19:46
MrChrisDruifSometimes I think it's some kind of weird cache overflow, but I don't have the knowledge to diagnose the issue19:47
staticsafeMrChrisDruif: what wireless chipset is it?19:47
staticsafeperhaps shitty drivers19:47
roastedLogan_: I actually switched to the other direction.19:47
MrChrisDruifstaticsafe; it used to work without hitches in 11.0419:47
staticsafehrm19:47
roastedLogan_: I was a Unity hater and Gnome Shell lover. But as of 12.04 that I've been testing the last few days, I've been using Unity instead.19:47
MrChrisDruifBut I can check it for ya19:47
Logan_yeah, I'm not **loving** gnome-shell compared to Unity19:48
Logan_there are still many things missing19:48
Logan_and I miss my global menu in Unity. :-P saves vertical screenspace a lot19:48
roastedthe more I use Unity, the more it makes sense to me, and the more I think "hmm, is gnome shell really "right" for me?"19:48
roasteddon't get me wrong, I love me some gnome shell :P19:48
* Logan_ goes back into Unity19:48
roastedI'm just becoming a bit more open minded to it19:48
staticsafeMrChrisDruif: if its wireless, it could be interference (microwaves, cordless phone)19:48
MrChrisDruifconfiguration: broadcast=yes driver=iwlwifi driverversion=3.2.0-20-generic firmware=8.83.5.1 build 33692 ip=192.168.1.10 latency=0 link=yes multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11abgn19:48
staticsafelooks good19:49
MrChrisDruifBut the microwave isn't in between my wireless router and laptop and I haven't had any phonecalls when I got these timeout issues19:50
MrChrisDruifAnd like I said, I can practically touch my router, so it shouldn't be that much of an issue19:50
staticsafehrm19:51
staticsafeMrChrisDruif: any wired machines with similar issues?19:51
staticsafeif so, could be ISP19:51
MrChrisDruifI'm only using my laptop and mobile phone, no wired connections. Only one and that one works okay afaict19:52
MrChrisDruifIt's my digital tv receiver19:52
graingertjtaylor: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssl/+bug/96605819:52
ubottuLaunchpad bug 966058 in openssl (Ubuntu) "SSL routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:unsupported protocol" [Undecided,New]19:52
Guest80717i dont seem to have wireless on 12.0419:53
Guest80717hmm19:53
Guest80717when i try to install the broadcom sti driver it fails. Jockey says : 2012-03-29 15:55:21,214 DEBUG: BroadcomWLHandler enabled(): kmod disabled, bcm43xx: blacklisted, b43: blacklisted, b43legacy: blacklisted19:56
Logan_roasted: Back in Unity. :-P19:57
roastedLogan_: very nice.19:58
roastedhey Logan_ maybe you know the answer to this.19:58
roastedLogan_: can you customize the arrangement of items in the unity dash?19:58
Logan_Specifically?19:58
roastedI really want to have applications listed immediately, instead of clicking on the apps button at the bottom, then see more results19:58
roastedI like the recent items, etc., I just want to shuffle it a bit.19:58
Logan_Hmm.19:58
Logan_So you basically want to have the Applications tab open first?19:59
roastedLogan_: yes20:00
roastedLogan_: the "home" icon isn't what I would call home. :P20:00
roastedpersonal preference, really. If I go to the dash 99% of the time it's after an application, so I (given the choice) would want to have it easier vs recent items that I rarely use, etc20:00
MrChrisDruifLogan_; except for global-menu, what do you miss in gnome-shell?20:01
roasteda printer GUI that doesn't completely suck20:01
roastedgnome shell's printer gui is so bad it makes me wonder why it even exists20:01
roastedno ability to assign specific drivers, no ability to choose protocol used, no ability to rename the printer20:02
roastedwhen I was on my gnome shell fanbus, I would log out, log into unity, set up my printer, and go back to gnome shell. :/20:02
vexati0ncan anyone help? after the latest Precise upgrade, ALL flash is doing this in ALL browsers: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2a6nl93&s=520:02
ratcheerThat sounds like a good plan, roasted20:03
roastedratcheer: @ what?20:03
MrChrisDruifroasted; I can't confirm or deny that, I don't have printers to test that with20:03
ratcheerSetting up your printer in Unity.20:03
MrChrisDruif(P.s. who needs GUI's anyway? Terminal is actually quite fun ^_^ )20:03
roastedMrChrisDruif: it was pretty bad. I was heavily disappointed.20:03
roastedMrChrisDruif: earlier on you couldn't edit network connections unless they were active.20:04
roastedMrChrisDruif: how do I remove the static IP of my wired NIC if I cannot activate it?20:04
roasteda 172.19 static IP would not activate on a 192.168 network. How can I POSSIBLY activate it to edit it?20:04
roastedTerrible20:04
ratcheerI was just trying to see my printer properties in gnome-shell, earlier today. I couldn't find them, anywhere.20:04
roastedratcheer: localhost:631 is your best bet. Seriously.20:04
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ratcheerIs that CUPS?20:05
Logan_MrChrisDruif: working shortcuts, constantly visible list of running applications20:05
roastedratcheer: yes20:05
Logan_Those are the main things.20:05
Logan_(besides global menu)20:05
Logan_And Unity just feels more fleshed out.20:05
MrChrisDruifWorking shortcuts? O_O20:05
roastedratcheer: the system-config-printer GUI that Ubuntu uses is the gui frontend for cups20:05
Logan_MrChrisDruif: for Terminal, e.g.20:05
ratcheerI was using the CUPS web interface, too, but I couldn't see what I needed to know.20:05
MrChrisDruifAh, that20:05
Logan_and desktop20:05
Logan_and I like having indicators at the top, not in a hidden menu in the bottom lefthand corner20:06
Logan_too much hiding in gnome-shell that doesn't really save that much space20:06
MrChrisDruifWell, the not working of shortcuts might be the fault of Ubuntu, I can't confirm this because I'm only running Ubuntu20:06
MrChrisDruifDesktop? What20:06
MrChrisDruif's wrong with that?20:06
roastedLogan_: interesting standpoint.20:06
roastedLogan_: I'd have to agree.20:07
MrChrisDruifDamn you <Enter>20:07
Logan_MrChrisDruif: ctrl-alt-d didn't work20:07
Logan_when I want to quickly hide windows ;-P20:07
roastedoh, THEM kind of windows. :P20:07
Logan_no, not Windows 7 :-P20:08
Logan_although I've been considering completely getting rid of it and filling my SSD with Ubuntu, as I never use Windows anymore20:08
* MrChrisDruif blames Ubuntu for breaking the shortcuts. A few weeks ago the shortcut for terminal at least still worked20:08
MrChrisDruif(I don't use ctrl+alt+d)20:08
MrChrisDruifCtrl+alt+<Up/Down> still works thankfully20:09
Logan_roasted: Going back to my "space" point; I'd rather lose horizontal space than vertical space, as most websites/applications don't need the full width of resolution that I have. Unity does this the best by putting the dock on the left and hiding the menu bar within the title bar.20:09
roastedLogan_: I agree.20:09
Logan_gnome-shell has a thick bar at the top, along with the window's title bar. I lose a ton of vertical space.20:10
roastedLogan_: for well over a year I was a big gnome shell fanboy, but 12.04's Unity is giving me more food for thought.20:10
roastedLogan_: ironically, Unity's bug fixes in 12.04 is highlighting areas in Gnome Shell I had a problem with all along and didn't realize.20:10
roastedLogan_: I had grown to just accept certain things won't highlight in gnome shell, such as xchat when someone highlights my name, etc.20:10
Logan_I honestly love Unity at this point (5.8). It's fast, polished, and it works well. Makes me more efficient at the same time. :-)20:10
roastedI accepted I ahd to go to the CUPS web interface to set up a printer, properly20:10
roastedLogan_: if you go into the applications lens, are your apps alphabetical?20:11
Logan_roasted: In which section?20:11
roastedLogan_: if you click applications and expand it "see more results"20:12
Logan_Oh, found a bug in Dash. Clicking the lens tabs, but not specifically on the picture, doesn't switch to that lens.20:12
Logan_I digress, though.20:12
Logan_roasted: In the "Installed" section?20:12
roastedLogan_: yes20:12
s0ullighthello, offtopic but is there anyone who can speak spanish who is willing to check a 300 word text for grammar/spelling mistakes?20:12
Logan_roasted: No, they are not alphabetical.20:13
Logan_!ot | s0ullight20:13
ubottus0ullight: #ubuntu+1 handles support for the development version of Ubuntu.  Please join #ubuntu for all other Ubuntu support.  Chat in #ubuntu-offtopic.20:13
roastedLogan_: same here. just wanted to make sure.20:13
s0ullightmkay20:13
roastedwell, at least there's a way to nuke the software center app lists20:17
roastedhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/37747/how-to-remove-apps-available-for-download-from-the-applications-lens20:17
roastedI don't really care if something is available for download. If I want it, I'll go find it.20:17
AtomicSparkOh it's dconf-editor now. I wonder if that's backwards compatible. Silly window controls.20:20
jessieAnyone else on Kubuntu having issues with akonadi_nepomuk stealing all of your RAM and then thrashing?20:21
ejvfyi, topic needs updating, Beta 2 is out.21:07
FernandoMiguelnice nice21:08
neglesaks:)21:13
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Guest83697hey, when i try to start gnome shell, I get, Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".21:25
doug_fQuestion: I have a local Repository I am Syncing for Precise and want users to be able to use it when they upgrade from Oneric.21:32
doug_fHow can I get the upgrade to use the Local Repository?21:32
ccmonstersgetting crazy issues21:35
ccmonstersErrors were encountered while processing:21:35
ccmonsters /var/cache/apt/archives/network-manager_0.9.4.0-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb21:35
ccmonsterserrors while configuring  python-cupshelpers system-config-printer-common network-manager-gnome system-config-printer-gnome system-config-printer-udev21:36
ccmonstersjeez21:36
jtaylormh beta freeze over: 159 upgraded :O21:37
ccmonstersi cant upgrade anything21:37
ccmonstersand a buncha stuff is erorring21:37
jessieSorry, my laptop froze. I wasn't diligent enough. So anyone know why akonadi_nepomuk_feeder started eating all of my memory all of the sudden.21:47
Will123456hey guys. can anyone remember the IRC channel for ayatana/unity dev? compiz-dev isn't it22:08
DaekdroomWill123456, It used to be #ayatana, and now it is #ubuntu-unity22:09
Will123456Daekdroom: thanks :)22:10
pangolindoesn't #ayatana forward to #ubuntu-unity ?22:19
pangolinit does!22:19
Daekdroompangolin, not for me.22:19
DaekdroomIt says #ayatana is invite-only.22:19
pangolinDaekdroom, you may have set yourself to no forward with nickserv22:20
pangolin#freenode could help you check that22:20
skenmyHey all - just did a dist-upgrade, however the new "Privacy" icon does not appear in my System Settings panel. Any ideas as to why - or am I being too hasty with upgrading to b2? I was running b1 about 30 minutes ago - now I'm not so sure :P22:21
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BodsdaHi guys - after some recent updates (maybe a week ago) - gnome-shell now freezes 5 - 30 seconds into use. I'm using proprietary nvidia drivers. Any known issues?22:39
pangolintry updating, may be fixed22:40
pangolina week is a long time in dev release22:40
Bodsdayeah, good point22:40
neglesaksyes, lots of updates the last week in fact22:40
Foxandxsshello, any beta 2 user with twinview? Is the new unity multimonitor support working with twinview? :)22:44
trismFoxandxss: works with twinview here22:45
aguiteli am in 11.10 triyng to upgrade to 12.04 ,when i type in command line sudo do-release-upgrade -d it say :No new release found22:46
aguitelwhy ?22:46
Foxandxsstrism: but when you go yo display options, you can remove that sticky effect and remove the second unity if you want, but with twinview, display says that you have just one big monitor22:47
Foxandxssaguitel: maybe is looking for a final version and not the beta one22:47
FoxandxssI remember in the past that you need to prepend "-d" to get a dev version22:47
aguitelFoxandxss, in other pc it work22:48
trismFoxandxss: yeah, since you can't use display options with nvidia proprietary, although maybe you can do it with ccsm, I'll look22:50
Foxandxssby default you have both unity bars, but I hate that sticky effect22:50
jessieHow about krandr with Nvidia? Will it autodetect a plugin?22:59
jessieIt did with the open source drivers, but not the closed source ones.22:59
maximiliuson launch of "k3b" it launches k3bsetup instead which asks me for permisssion to change certain things. it also insists in the "use burning group" option. what do i enter there, please?22:59
lewis1711hello. how can I add proxies? :)23:25
lewis1711or rather, add a new location. what the equivalent to "Network Proxy" is on 12.0423:25
trismFoxandxss: I found the number of launchers option using gconf-editor, set /apps/compiz-1/plugins/unityshell/screen0/options/num_launchers to 1 for only on the primary monitor, 0 for all (didn't notice it in ccsm, may have missed it though)23:27
Foxandxssoh, interesting23:28
trismFoxandxss: the overcome_pressure right below that is supposed to be for the sticky effect between screens, but that is in ccsm on the experimental tab (although I don't notice much of a difference changing it to 1)23:28
Foxandxssthanks trism :)23:29
trismFoxandxss: no problem I was curious myself23:31
aguiteli am in 11.10 triyng to upgrade to 12.04 ,when i type in command line sudo do-release-upgrade -d it say :No new release found ,why ?23:55

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