[00:05] Does anyone else have a crash when trying to save DAAP settings in Rhythmbox's DAAP plugin page? === Eledran is now known as zz_Eledran === godmachine-e350 is now known as god-zotac [01:35] hey guys, I just instelled Ubuntu 12.04 on my Macbook Pro (5,5), I'm having issues with controlling the brightness and the keyboard backlight setting. Any help is appreciated. [01:39] whats new in beta 2, is it stable should I upgrade, and how is the new sound coming? [01:39] anyone here? === myersg is now known as alexm === alexm is now known as myersg [01:44] myersg: it has HUD, Rhythmbox replaced Banshee [01:44] apparently better multi-monitor support [01:44] not sure what else, probably loads of stuff [01:45] ok [01:47] can someone try to reproduce a bug for me please? [01:49] it it worth the upgrade? [01:53] myersg, its not yet at beta 2 its still beta 1 but they are fixing up the page for beta 2 but if you have beta 1 then just continue with the updates to go to beta 2 and then the release [01:53] myersg: dunno yet. seems okay to me so far, pretty usable on my laptop [01:54] I've been using it about 2 hours and during that time found a couple of annoying bugs, but it's usable [01:55] ssfdre38: can you do a quick test for me please? open rhythmbox, edit -> plugins, daap -> preferences. change name of server and close: does it segfault? [02:01] bitplane-, i dont have it on my laptop its still 11.10 [02:10] ah okay, thanks anyway [02:10] can anyone else help? [02:16] im thinking of just doing it on my laptop to make a video on it [02:17] what code do i type in the command thing to upgrade? [02:18] what type of upgrade? [02:30] myersg, are you talking about from version to version or system upgrade === haz3lnut_zzz is now known as haz3lnut [02:45] how to accelerate intel 82g33/g31 vidoe card? [02:48] I don't know, version 5.0.2 worked great for me [02:48] or sorry wrong thing [02:48] or rather how to dedicate x ammount of shared ram permanently... [02:48] system upgrade [02:49] just did that... [02:57] myersg, sudo apt-get upgrade [03:05] 12.04 keeps getting better! :D [03:06] Rhythmbox is more stable than ever, and I never thought I'd say it, but Unity is getting close to a point I could actually like it. [03:18] What happened to snmpd? [03:18] It's got like no mibs. [03:18] So I installed this snmp-mib-downloader.. It fetches a bunch of mibs. Restart snmpd.. doesn't use them. [03:19] UberDuper, you DO know that that is just a Daemon, right? [03:21] I've never had to go fetch mibs seperately from the snmpd (and dependent) packages. [03:22] from what I'm reading on the online snmpd manpage, mibs aren't even used by the daemon. [03:22] it only listens to ports. [03:22] I must have something else broken then. [03:23] and it handles requests from SNMP managers. [03:23] like I said, it's only a daemon, users don't usually need to interact with daemons. [03:24] no they just control them [03:24] I prefer to dominate them. [03:25] lol === M0hi is now known as benonhardware [03:39] can someone do a quick test for me please? open rhythmbox, edit -> plugins, daap -> preferences. change name of server and tab out of the box: does it segfault? [03:41] HELP A BROTHA OUT. THREE CLICKS IS ALL I ASK!!11 [03:49] bitplane-: yup [04:09] trism, it crashes? cool thanks :) [04:10] the devs in #rhythmbox @ GimpNet coouldn.t reproduce it. Any chance you can click the "this bug affects me" please? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/+bug/967924 [04:10] Launchpad bug 967924 in rhythmbox (Ubuntu) "rhythmbox DAAP plugin causes crash when saving settings" [Medium,Confirmed] [04:13] bitplane-: already did, hence the confirmed [04:20] my session froze last night, so i shutdown and everything seemed fine, now when i try to boot i can login but cant get the desktop, im in recovery console now, how do i fix this? [04:28] my network connections froze last night, so i shutdown and everything seemed fine, now when i try to boot i can login but cant get the desktop, im in recovery console now, how do i fix this? === haz3lnut is now known as haz3lnut_zzz [06:33] window title font doesn't follow system wide zoom in/out, what package should I report this to? [08:15] is precise optimized for SSD drives completly? [08:16] i doubt it, I don't think it added the discard option to my fstab automatically [08:16] but you could check that [08:29] is there a way to disable unity change color based on wallpaper? [09:35] ETA on Beta 2 images? [10:07] Now I got everything up-and-running here I need for a productive system except Unity-3d/Compiz and Emerald. [10:07] So I filed another bug report/regression on Precise I would very much like to see fixed (sorry for that :-D): https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/968112 [10:07] Launchpad bug 968112 in compiz (Ubuntu) "Emerald (the original Compiz Window Decorator) fails to compile on Ubuntu 12.04 Precise, while it was working on all Ubuntu versions before" [Undecided,New] [10:14] Any opinions as to whether I should upgrade to Beta 1 now, or wait for Beta 2? [10:15] if memory server, beta2 is very soon, so beta1, being almost a month ago, will be old. [10:16] i would grab the daily. [10:17] serves* [10:17] I was just going to do an update-manager -d [10:18] i do it with aptitude safe-upgrade, but same result. === captain_ is now known as captainfixerpc14 [10:52] I have a question, does ubuntu have any plans to provide a failsafe for if/when compiz crashes, one cannot assume it to be infallable, however if it does crash, you are left with window borderless windowed, and often no way to get them back unless your lucky enough for alt-f2 to work so you can type compiz --replace [12:12] Hello [12:12] I wanted to report a bug using launchpad, but for some reason I keep getting timeouts [12:13] The problem is with the nfs-kernel-server package, in the init.d file [12:13] There are calls to the rpcinfo binary [12:13] Using either a fixed path or a prefix [12:13] problem is, it's wrong [12:13] instead of /usr/bin/rpcinfo it should be /usr/sbin/rpcinfo [12:13] or $PREFIX/sbin/rpcinfo [12:14] marios__: You'll just need to keep retrying on launchpad. Reporting a problem here has little chance of it reaching the (right) developers. [12:14] This causes NFS to be started as v2/v3/v4, but mountd isn't - as a result nfsv3 isn't usable [12:15] Well I don't have much time now to mess with it, and it's really an easy fix - so I thought maybe someone would have better luck that me with the bug reporting platform [12:58] does anybody test ubuntu in a Samsung np530 14' laptop? [12:58] strange issue on precise.. seem to have lost my ability to alt-tab and some other shortcuts (although custom ones work) [12:59] (in gnome shell) [13:29] hello [13:29] gtk file-chooser: Autocompletion - Dropdown-list: selection fails [13:29] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/+bug/964491 [13:29] Launchpad bug 964491 in gtk+3.0 (Ubuntu) "gtk file-chooser: Autocompletion - Dropdown-list: selection fails" [Undecided,New] [13:30] any gtk hacker here? [13:31] Am I the only one who is experieencing this? has somebody tried? === tbf_ is now known as tbf__ === tbf__ is now known as tbf [13:57] any gtk hacker here? [14:58] :) [15:07] I have a question, does ubuntu have any plans to provide a failsafe for if/when compiz crashes, one cannot assume it to be infallable, however if it does crash, you are left with window borderless windowed, and often no way to get them back unless your lucky enough for alt-f2 to work so you can type compiz --replace [15:08] DropsOfSerenity, usually when compiz crashes, unity starts a new process. [15:09] Atleast that's how it works for me. [15:09] However, if it doesn't start at all with the session, I guess it falls to Unity2D [15:09] Daekdroom, it doesn't seem to fall back to anything for me, just loses window decorators [15:10] nor does it restart most of the time [15:10] sometimes I even lose the capability to run alt-f2 commands to start it up again, leaving me no other option but to ctrl-alt-f1 and restart my window manager [15:10] Is there a way to rearrange the items of the unity lens? I really could care less for "recent items" [15:10] I'd rather have all of my apps listed in the very initial view [15:40] fallback mode now also uses compiz by default. [15:46] Hello. [15:46] What's the story with beta2? [15:47] cousin_luigi: Could you be more specific? [15:49] astraljava: wasn't it supposed to be out today? [15:50] cousin_luigi: Yes, but today lasts for quite some while, still. At least for UTC, which is what counts in these matters. [15:51] astraljava: Ok. [15:56] !info banshee [15:57] banshee (source: banshee): Media Management and Playback application. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.4.0-1ubuntu3 (precise), package size 4383 kB, installed size 13315 kB [16:03] bbl [16:06] hey guys, tried to do an update yesterday/today and got this error in the terminal: Failed to fetch gzip:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precise_multiverse_source_Sources Hash Sum mismatch [16:10] Guest80717: Could be just an out-of-date mirror. Try some others, or the main archive (ie. without a country-code at the beginning). [16:13] any ETA on the release of 12.04b2? I am trying to silence the AskUbuntu people who keep asking continually about its release by giving them an ETA [16:13] (I could say 23:59 UTC or something, though, if I have to) [16:17] do what release party does [16:19] how do i edit that astraljava [16:29] Guest80717: `sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list` gives you write permissions to the file. [16:30] or [16:30] use sudo -e /etc/apt/sources.list (uses your $EDITOR variable) [16:31] Sure. [16:31] or simply use the update-manager if you want a GUI :) hi astraljava :) [16:32] thanks astraljava , that did the trick. [16:32] However, diff issue just popped up : wine-gecko1.4 : Breaks: wine-gecko1.4:i386 (!= 1.4.0-0ubuntu1) but 1.4.0-0ubuntu2 is installed [16:32] MCR: Hello! Or `sudo sed -i s/us.archive/archive/g /etc/apt/sources.list` to make the change without non-interactively. [16:32] How long do you want to continue this game? :) [16:32] hah [16:32] hehe [16:33] well, not sure what the best course of action is here [16:33] Guest80717: do just an upgrade, not dist-upgrade [16:33] i did an upgrade [16:33] sudo apt-get upgrade [16:33] not a dist-upgrade [16:33] then remove and reinstall [16:35] gotta go [16:40] ok [16:41] if i try to remove it, i get the same unmet dependency error [16:48] Guest80717: It's possible that the archives just aren't in sync currently, the beta-2 images are about to be released, so final touches are being put right as we type. [16:49] I'm having some input issues with my 12.04 install. I ran the upgrade from 11.10 where it worked fine. I seem to be limited to how many keys on kb will be accepted [16:49] also in order to use mousewheel I must release all keys from keyboard for it to work. note: had issue while running ioquake [16:53] do the precise "mac" isos work on an apple xserve server? they are efi-only [16:55] i have a few different models if you need me to test [17:27] where should I watch for beta2 desktop download when it is available? [17:30] the topic here should change at some point [17:31] thanks [17:34] <|rt|> anyone else having issues with search on launchpad? [17:37] mikeconcepts: you can grab the daily build; i'll bet it's pretty close [17:38] apt just downloaded 160 updated packages, so its pretty much beta 2 now [17:38] from the repositories stand point [17:40] thanks BLZbubba, I have tried that 4 times in the last few weeks, nm-applet crash, first two times so no internet, then last time couple days ago installer crashes so I've yet to get a working beta [17:40] hope beta2 lets me install [17:41] that's unfortunate. i upgraded all 4 of my mythtv boxes and it's doing ok. i am an enemy of #!$^ network manager; i just use /etc/network/interfaces and kill that piece of junk [17:42] it is good for wireless, that's about it [17:42] BLZbubba: I will do that for sure, thanks [17:43] well i now have beta 1 on my laptop [17:45] who uses gnome-panel on here? [17:45] i use gnome fallback, but it isn't quite the same as the real gnome panel [17:46] haven't tried on precise yet [17:46] well i use it and its better but the bottom panel does flicker from back to white [17:46] unity allows for 2 dimensional sets of virtual workspaces, though, so I am seriously considering switching to that [17:46] gnome 3 is just too painful === log is now known as Logan_ [17:47] oh that's right my myth frontends both use gnome fallback on precise; i don't see any panel weirdness though [17:48] that's right, the deal killer for unity was that stupid panel that you can't get rid of [17:48] well http://images.ssfdre38.com/?v=4bf9K.png shows you what im talking about [17:48] it needs to let full screen apps cover it up [17:49] i just took all that out, i dont want to deal with it [17:49] time to bring back wm2, the ultimate window manager!!!! [17:55] hey what is the true path of bender? [18:03] Can anyone help me with this very strange (to me) issue with an expect script and the left arrow? I can't seem to get the interact command to capture the keypress. Here's a pastebin: http://pastebin.com/KU8aUFJM [18:03] oops...wrong channel... sorry. [18:05] do i even want to know what your trying to do or do i already know and you should just trash it? [18:29] ooh updates [18:29] yay [18:33] the small cd images TORRENTS (USE TORRENTS!) are available at releases.ubuntu.com [18:33] i had 14 packages kept back [18:33] interesting. [18:33] wond er why [18:34] control panel and unity packages almost all of them [18:35] now my chrome doesn't support flash. [18:35] interesting [18:36] Guest80717: flash was updated, just restart the browser and it should work again [18:36] Guest80717: (did the same thing to me) [18:36] olá [18:36] hah. ok [18:37] can anyone who is on Ubuntu 12.04 run import requests\nrequests.post("https://browserid.org/verify", data={}) [18:37] under python? [18:38] http://paste.ubuntu.com/906056/ [18:38] i saw that a python package was kept back [18:39] I get a timeout [18:39] jtaylor: you get a timeout? [18:41] darn [18:41] I never tough UEFI would be so BADDDDDDDDDD [18:41] took me 2h to get it ready [18:41] :( [18:41] and I still have no idea what to do, if I need to do it again [18:41] frak [18:42] jtaylor: you should get {"status":"failure","reason":"need assertion and audience"} [18:43] I don't [18:43] btw you are not using the packaged version [18:45] yes [18:45] do you know how I can revert to the packaged version? [18:45] and can you try the pip version? [18:46] there is probably a .pth file /usr/lib/python2.7/ pointing to local [18:46] I can pip uninstall [18:46] removing it should change back to the packaged version [18:47] with the pi version I get the same error [18:48] jtaylor: have you got ubuntu 11.10 ? [18:48] on any nearby machines? [18:49] why? [18:49] it might be a regression [18:49] the packaged version is not bubbling the exception properly [18:50] it catches the SSL exception and fires a Timeout [18:50] jtaylor: I was wondering if this was an issue in ubuntu [18:50] and not python [18:50] so the ssl exception is the expected result? [18:51] no [18:51] oneiric gets [18:51] well that's what it should do [18:52] but not the expected result ;) should be but that's browserID [18:52] so yeah it looks like there is something wrong with python ssl in ubuntu 12.04 [18:53] support for sslv2 has been removed so far I know [18:53] jtaylor: oh? [18:54] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=589706 [18:54] Debian bug 589706 in openssl "SSLv2 should be disabled" [Normal,Fixed] [18:55] why does curl work? [18:55] guys, i have constant skipping when i listen to MP3 files - how can i troubleshoot this? [18:55] it should also be disabled in oneiric [18:55] jtaylor: so it's not that then [18:55] what does SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO actually mean? [18:55] depends maybe it still links against 0.9.8 [18:55] SSL23 is some v2<->v3 thing [18:56] which should be gone [18:56] ah so it's python linking against the new openssl [18:56] but using openssl alone works fine [18:56] Hello! Can you customize the items within the dash view? [18:56] jtaylor: openssl s_client -connect browserid.org:443 [18:57] jtaylor: https://github.com/mozilla/django-browserid/issues/53 [19:02] jtaylor: so what do you think is this browserid's fault? [19:06] no idea [19:07] let me try with the old ssl [19:07] old ssl? [19:08] hm no that won't work their not binary compatible [19:08] natty it is then [19:08] ? [19:09] natty still has 0.9.8 [19:11] works with the oneiric version in natty [19:12] so its caused by openssl 1.0.0 removing sslv2 support [19:12] probably an issue with the site or request trying to use the wrong protocol [19:12] okay, can you comment on the issue? [19:12] or shall I just paste what you said? [19:13] I'm probably not really that qualified in web stuff, I guess the django people now better [19:13] I don't think it's an issue in django [19:13] the information you posted should be enough for them to find the issue [19:13] it's a config issue on their server [19:13] yes but I think the process you used to determine that it was openssl removing support [19:14] by using oneiric version in natty [19:14] would be of use to these people [19:14] I'll post that [19:14] awesome, thank-you very much [19:19] :( [19:19] Anybody know if it's possible to change some stuff around in Unity's dash view? [19:19] like? [19:19] jtaylor: there seems to be a typo "I tried the same with python-request version from ubuntu 12.04 (0.8.2-1) installed in ubuntu 11.04 and got "...? [19:19] I'd like to have my apps listed first vs having to go through some menu options each time to get to that view [19:19] fixed it already [19:25] I guess that's a no? :( [19:29] i use gnome-panel so i dont deal with Unity [19:33] :( [19:34] jtaylor: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssl/+bug/861137 [19:34] Launchpad bug 861137 in openssl (Ubuntu) "Openssl TLS errors while connecting to SSLv3 sites" [Undecided,Confirmed] [19:40] whoa [19:40] gnome-shell is actually good now! [19:40] I might use this instead of Unity. [19:41] Logan_; I already AM using it instead of Unity [19:41] MrChrisDruif: You've gotten used to it? [19:42] Logan_: All this talk about gnome-shell is really making me curious to try out gnome shell 3.4 [19:42] I used to use it few months back [19:42] It was really broken earlier on, but it's feeling more polished now. [19:43] Logan_; to Unity? NEVER! ^_^ [19:43] haha [19:44] You? [19:44] Oh, hang on! I've got an issue with my internet connection from time to time [19:45] Can someone PLEASE help me diagnose if it's just my installation or if it's my ISP [19:45] what is the issue? [19:45] Do you know why my CTRL-ALT-T isn't working to open Terminal in Gnome3? [19:45] staticsafe; from time to time I get some time-out connection error [19:46] Logan_; afraid not, that was an other issue with me [19:46] hmm wireless or wired? [19:46] But I can live with that one [19:46] staticsafe; wireless [19:46] But I can touch my wireless router [19:47] Sometimes I think it's some kind of weird cache overflow, but I don't have the knowledge to diagnose the issue [19:47] MrChrisDruif: what wireless chipset is it? [19:47] perhaps shitty drivers [19:47] Logan_: I actually switched to the other direction. [19:47] staticsafe; it used to work without hitches in 11.04 [19:47] hrm [19:47] Logan_: I was a Unity hater and Gnome Shell lover. But as of 12.04 that I've been testing the last few days, I've been using Unity instead. [19:47] But I can check it for ya [19:48] yeah, I'm not **loving** gnome-shell compared to Unity [19:48] there are still many things missing [19:48] and I miss my global menu in Unity. :-P saves vertical screenspace a lot [19:48] the more I use Unity, the more it makes sense to me, and the more I think "hmm, is gnome shell really "right" for me?" [19:48] don't get me wrong, I love me some gnome shell :P [19:48] * Logan_ goes back into Unity [19:48] I'm just becoming a bit more open minded to it [19:48] MrChrisDruif: if its wireless, it could be interference (microwaves, cordless phone) [19:48] configuration: broadcast=yes driver=iwlwifi driverversion=3.2.0-20-generic firmware=8.83.5.1 build 33692 ip=192.168.1.10 latency=0 link=yes multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11abgn [19:49] looks good [19:50] But the microwave isn't in between my wireless router and laptop and I haven't had any phonecalls when I got these timeout issues [19:50] And like I said, I can practically touch my router, so it shouldn't be that much of an issue [19:51] hrm [19:51] MrChrisDruif: any wired machines with similar issues? [19:51] if so, could be ISP [19:52] I'm only using my laptop and mobile phone, no wired connections. Only one and that one works okay afaict [19:52] It's my digital tv receiver [19:52] jtaylor: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssl/+bug/966058 [19:52] Launchpad bug 966058 in openssl (Ubuntu) "SSL routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:unsupported protocol" [Undecided,New] [19:53] i dont seem to have wireless on 12.04 [19:53] hmm [19:56] when i try to install the broadcom sti driver it fails. Jockey says : 2012-03-29 15:55:21,214 DEBUG: BroadcomWLHandler enabled(): kmod disabled, bcm43xx: blacklisted, b43: blacklisted, b43legacy: blacklisted [19:57] roasted: Back in Unity. :-P [19:58] Logan_: very nice. [19:58] hey Logan_ maybe you know the answer to this. [19:58] Logan_: can you customize the arrangement of items in the unity dash? [19:58] Specifically? [19:58] I really want to have applications listed immediately, instead of clicking on the apps button at the bottom, then see more results [19:58] I like the recent items, etc., I just want to shuffle it a bit. [19:58] Hmm. [19:59] So you basically want to have the Applications tab open first? [20:00] Logan_: yes [20:00] Logan_: the "home" icon isn't what I would call home. :P [20:00] personal preference, really. If I go to the dash 99% of the time it's after an application, so I (given the choice) would want to have it easier vs recent items that I rarely use, etc [20:01] Logan_; except for global-menu, what do you miss in gnome-shell? [20:01] a printer GUI that doesn't completely suck [20:01] gnome shell's printer gui is so bad it makes me wonder why it even exists [20:02] no ability to assign specific drivers, no ability to choose protocol used, no ability to rename the printer [20:02] when I was on my gnome shell fanbus, I would log out, log into unity, set up my printer, and go back to gnome shell. :/ [20:02] can anyone help? after the latest Precise upgrade, ALL flash is doing this in ALL browsers: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2a6nl93&s=5 [20:03] That sounds like a good plan, roasted [20:03] ratcheer: @ what? [20:03] roasted; I can't confirm or deny that, I don't have printers to test that with [20:03] Setting up your printer in Unity. [20:03] (P.s. who needs GUI's anyway? Terminal is actually quite fun ^_^ ) [20:03] MrChrisDruif: it was pretty bad. I was heavily disappointed. [20:04] MrChrisDruif: earlier on you couldn't edit network connections unless they were active. [20:04] MrChrisDruif: how do I remove the static IP of my wired NIC if I cannot activate it? [20:04] a 172.19 static IP would not activate on a 192.168 network. How can I POSSIBLY activate it to edit it? [20:04] Terrible [20:04] I was just trying to see my printer properties in gnome-shell, earlier today. I couldn't find them, anywhere. [20:04] ratcheer: localhost:631 is your best bet. Seriously. === yofel_ is now known as yofel [20:05] Is that CUPS? [20:05] MrChrisDruif: working shortcuts, constantly visible list of running applications [20:05] ratcheer: yes [20:05] Those are the main things. [20:05] (besides global menu) [20:05] And Unity just feels more fleshed out. [20:05] Working shortcuts? O_O [20:05] ratcheer: the system-config-printer GUI that Ubuntu uses is the gui frontend for cups [20:05] MrChrisDruif: for Terminal, e.g. [20:05] I was using the CUPS web interface, too, but I couldn't see what I needed to know. [20:05] Ah, that [20:05] and desktop [20:06] and I like having indicators at the top, not in a hidden menu in the bottom lefthand corner [20:06] too much hiding in gnome-shell that doesn't really save that much space [20:06] Well, the not working of shortcuts might be the fault of Ubuntu, I can't confirm this because I'm only running Ubuntu [20:06] Desktop? What [20:06] 's wrong with that? [20:06] Logan_: interesting standpoint. [20:07] Logan_: I'd have to agree. [20:07] Damn you [20:07] MrChrisDruif: ctrl-alt-d didn't work [20:07] when I want to quickly hide windows ;-P [20:07] oh, THEM kind of windows. :P [20:08] no, not Windows 7 :-P [20:08] although I've been considering completely getting rid of it and filling my SSD with Ubuntu, as I never use Windows anymore [20:08] * MrChrisDruif blames Ubuntu for breaking the shortcuts. A few weeks ago the shortcut for terminal at least still worked [20:08] (I don't use ctrl+alt+d) [20:09] Ctrl+alt+ still works thankfully [20:09] roasted: Going back to my "space" point; I'd rather lose horizontal space than vertical space, as most websites/applications don't need the full width of resolution that I have. Unity does this the best by putting the dock on the left and hiding the menu bar within the title bar. [20:09] Logan_: I agree. [20:10] gnome-shell has a thick bar at the top, along with the window's title bar. I lose a ton of vertical space. [20:10] Logan_: for well over a year I was a big gnome shell fanboy, but 12.04's Unity is giving me more food for thought. [20:10] Logan_: ironically, Unity's bug fixes in 12.04 is highlighting areas in Gnome Shell I had a problem with all along and didn't realize. [20:10] Logan_: I had grown to just accept certain things won't highlight in gnome shell, such as xchat when someone highlights my name, etc. [20:10] I honestly love Unity at this point (5.8). It's fast, polished, and it works well. Makes me more efficient at the same time. :-) [20:10] I accepted I ahd to go to the CUPS web interface to set up a printer, properly [20:11] Logan_: if you go into the applications lens, are your apps alphabetical? [20:11] roasted: In which section? [20:12] Logan_: if you click applications and expand it "see more results" [20:12] Oh, found a bug in Dash. Clicking the lens tabs, but not specifically on the picture, doesn't switch to that lens. [20:12] I digress, though. [20:12] roasted: In the "Installed" section? [20:12] Logan_: yes [20:12] hello, offtopic but is there anyone who can speak spanish who is willing to check a 300 word text for grammar/spelling mistakes? [20:13] roasted: No, they are not alphabetical. [20:13] !ot | s0ullight [20:13] s0ullight: #ubuntu+1 handles support for the development version of Ubuntu. Please join #ubuntu for all other Ubuntu support. Chat in #ubuntu-offtopic. [20:13] Logan_: same here. just wanted to make sure. [20:13] mkay [20:17] well, at least there's a way to nuke the software center app lists [20:17]