[03:08] <jandrusk> Got the answer from kees in #ubuntu-hardened: cat /proc/sys/kernel/ngroups_max, which is set to 65536.
[12:18] <jandrusk> Very interesting. Failed after 59,066 with "groupadd: Can't get unique GID (no more available GIDs)"
[13:42] <paultag> jandrusk: move to kerbos or something
[13:42] <paultag> sorry, kerberos
[14:22] <thafreak> http://saltstack.org/
[14:24] <paultag> man, I need some software written, bad
[14:24] <paultag> fuck, I don't have time to do it
[14:24] <paultag> but I need it
[14:25] <jandrusk> paultag: Actually it was just an exercise to satisfy my curiousity. Would actually use LDAP in that scenario.
[14:29] <thafreak> paultag: what kind-o-software you need?
[14:29] <thafreak> it might already exist
[14:30] <thafreak> salt seems pretty awesome, and almost exactly what I wanted to write my self...
[14:30] <thafreak> now i feel...weird
[14:30] <thafreak> like they read my brain
[14:30] <thafreak> but also happy, cause now i don't have to write from scratch...i can just use their stuff!
[14:33] <paultag> thafreak: I need a wrapper around python-dulwich (or similar) to expose a git repo to me in a sane way, quickly
[14:33] <paultag> I need to have it expose the history, current refs, and be able to give me the tree at any revno
[14:34] <paultag> in as close to zero time as one can
[14:34] <paultag> jandrusk: gotcha
[14:34] <paultag> jandrusk: I'm sure you could bump that number higher, that number seems random
[14:35] <paultag> the closest number that would make sense is 65,536
[14:35] <paultag> which is also the intmax
[14:37] <jandrusk> I would think for saltstack you could just write a bash script that would commands on all servers in a list via SSH.
[14:37] <paultag> thafreak: are you trying to write me some code?
[14:38] <thafreak> no, just curious what you need so badly
[14:38] <paultag> thafreak: I need a git viewer in django
[14:39] <paultag> or any wsgi framework
[14:39] <thafreak> interesting
[14:39] <paultag> so I guess flask is ok too
[14:39] <paultag> thafreak: I'd like to see gitlabhq for django
[14:39] <paultag> I respect that project a lot
[14:39] <thafreak> what part of git? like diffs or logs?
[14:39] <paultag> but it's ruby
[14:39] <paultag> thafreak: yes
[14:39] <paultag> also tree, blobs
[14:39] <thafreak> oh ok
[14:39] <paultag> commits
[14:39] <paultag> everything
[14:39] <thafreak> so you can build like what redmine/etc have
[14:40] <paultag> redmine is shit
[14:40] <thafreak> isn't there a python-git library
[14:40] <paultag> horseshit
[14:40] <thafreak> haha
[14:40] <paultag> thafreak: there's python-dulwich
[14:40] <paultag> which is what I suggested
[14:40] <thafreak> well, it's really fast...
[14:40] <thafreak> wait
[14:40] <paultag> dulwich is
[14:40] <thafreak> trac has git support
[14:40] <thafreak> and it's wsgi
[14:40] <paultag> trac is shit
[14:40] <paultag> I can't stand trac
[14:40] <thafreak> haha
[14:40] <thafreak> but maybe there's code you can borrow
[14:40] <paultag> I also don't want bugs or anything like that
[14:40] <paultag> I *just* want a git viewer
[14:40] <thafreak> like the repository viewer part
[14:40] <paultag> like http://git.debian.org/
[14:40] <paultag> but not in PHP
[14:41] <paultag> http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=collab-maint/fluxbox.git;a=summary <- this would be ideal
[14:41] <thafreak> you sure that's php, that looks like git-web, which is perl i think
[14:41] <paultag> but make it look like http://gitlabhq.com/
[14:42] <paultag> whatever it is, I don't want that on my server
[14:42] <paultag> I used to have gitview
[14:42] <paultag> which was good
[14:44] <thafreak> You find something you let me know
[14:44] <paultag> I'm going to have to write it.
[14:44] <paultag> I don't want to
[14:44] <paultag> like, at all
[14:44] <thafreak> especially if it has good wiki support and needs latex support
[14:44] <paultag> the fuck?
[14:44] <paultag> that's not what I want at all :)
[14:44] <paultag> I don't want anything except a git viewer
[14:45] <thafreak> well if you find something you want that has wiki built in that supports latex...let me know ;)
[14:45] <thafreak> here's my situation
[14:45] <thafreak> we have trac hosted here and now redmine
[14:45] <thafreak> no one is 100% happy with either
[14:46] <paultag> I can't stand those crappy "all in one" solutions
[14:46] <thafreak> mainly, redmine has a crap wiki, but user management is easy, and you can have apache auth against redmine (for svn or git over http)
[14:46] <paultag> they never do anything well enough
[14:47] <thafreak> trac has a much better wiki, but is a bitch to manage lots of projects
[14:47] <thafreak> well, my boss won't let us write anything ourselves
[14:47] <thafreak> she wants all these other things to work the way they want
[14:47] <paultag> gitlabhq looks good
[14:48] <thafreak> nah, not enough project management, and i doubt the wiki is any good
[14:48] <paultag> thafreak: http://gitlabhq.com/demo.html
[14:48] <thafreak> but it does look alot like github
[14:48] <thafreak> which we're having trouble with now, one group started out using github, and now they're coming to us, and their workflow is now all screwy
[14:49] <paultag> use github
[14:49] <thafreak> we can't let people easily fork and we don't do pull requests, we just have plain old git
[14:49] <paultag> bah
[14:49] <paultag> format-patch ftw :)
[14:50] <paultag> I am getting cranky at most "solutions"
[14:50] <paultag> I hate mose code
[14:50] <thafreak> you expect chemistry undergrads to use a cli tool?
[14:50] <paultag> most *
[14:50] <paultag> and I also hate mose programmers
[14:50] <paultag> god damnit
[14:50] <thafreak> what about "devops" people ;)
[14:50] <paultag> s/mose/moot/g
[14:50] <paultag> fuuuuuuu
[14:50] <paultag> alright, I'm done. It's this keyboard.
[14:50] <paultag> /idle
[14:50] <thafreak> you can atleast spell idle
[14:50] <thafreak> PEBCAK
[14:51] <paultag> PEBKAC, dawg
[14:51] <paultag> perhaps I'll offer someone a few bucks to write this wrapper on dulwich
[15:30] <thafreak> Hey, anyone interested in some older ppc g3's?
[15:30] <thafreak> I've got like 3 in my basement
[15:33] <oda> kill them with fire
[15:36] <paultag> oda smash
[15:36] <dzho> nas boxes, yo
[15:36] <dzho> oh, wait
[15:36] <dzho> not with G3s
[15:37] <dzho> G4s or go home
[15:37] <dzho> these even PowerMacs, or are they fruit bubble CRT iMacs?
[15:38] <dzho> ooh, this reminds me, I brought in a generic SATA-PCI card to see if the G4 PowerMacs will use it
[15:38] <dzho> guess I should see to the reported web site error first though
[15:53] <thafreak> nah, i have an old beige g3, the blue+white g3, and one of the imac g3's in my basement
[15:53] <thafreak> and a broken dual g5 powermac
[15:53] <thafreak> may hang on to the broken g5 for now though
[15:54] <thafreak> I just hate it when I spend a few hundred dollars on things that i end up never getting around to doing anything with
[15:54] <thafreak> then i need to throw them away, cause they become useless
[15:55] <thafreak> I was trying to get osx 10.2 on the g3's...to play with...but now, 10.2 is so damn old, it's pointless
[15:55] <thafreak> and I have NAS boxes already, and several VM host machines...no need for wimpy old hardware in the basement
[15:56] <thafreak> might build another nas box, but it'll be dual core atleast (for raid-z2 on freenas)
[15:58] <thafreak> Anyone want a 9gb scsi-2 drive? FULL height :)
[15:58] <thafreak> i.e. about the height of 2 cdrom drives stacked up...it's a beast
[15:58] <thafreak> weighs like 30lbs
[16:00] <thafreak> well...if anyone wants a g3 for like compiling on the ppc arch, let me know, else they're going to the dump, or maybe down to freegeek columbus
[21:49] <oda> G5 looks cool
[21:50] <oda> I'd actually try to use one
[21:50] <oda> dat case :3
[21:51] <canthus13> G5... is that the one with no fans that died every few hours from overheating?
[21:51] <oda> :(
[21:51] <oda> no idea, never owned any apple product other than an ipod
[21:51] <canthus13> Oh. no. that was the G4 cube, I think.
[21:52]  * canthus13 shrugs. one of their artsy-fartsy 'form over function' models.
[21:53] <canthus13> It was some G5s...
[21:56] <oda> the iMac is an example of that, so silly.
[21:56] <canthus13> A lot of their machines are an example of that. :/
[21:56] <oda> macbook air
[21:57] <oda> RAM is soldered in
[21:57] <canthus13> macbook air is fucked up.
[21:57] <canthus13> the MBPs are tanks, though.
[21:57] <oda> ^^^
[21:57] <oda> I got to play with one for 5 minutes once
[21:57] <oda> it felt nice, but not $2,500 nice
[21:58] <canthus13> my girlfriend dropped hers down 2 flights of stairs and it survived with a few dings.
[21:58] <oda> I can buy a car for that much
[21:58] <oda> LOL
[21:58] <canthus13> She then spilled a glass of water in it and killed it.
[21:58] <oda> oh come on
[21:58] <canthus13> yeah.
[21:59] <canthus13> Now she's got a POS ASUS that barely manages Win7 basic.  It runs Mint 12 fine, though. :D
[21:59] <oda> ASUS is awesome
[21:59] <oda> my favorite prebuilt manufacturer for laptops/netbooks
[22:00] <canthus13> It's an X53U.
[22:00] <canthus13> I dunno how she found it in the US.
[22:01] <canthus13> The last I heard, it was supposed to be designated for emerging markets.
[22:02] <oda> AMD Fusion = Intel Celeron IIRC
[22:03] <oda> That's a full size laptop too :/
[22:03] <oda> Needs to have an i3 or C2D
[22:04] <canthus13> yup.