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qubit[0|1]does my /etc/hosts file except another DNS entry ?  for example I want to say , database-server my-amazon-ec2-public-dns.com00:01
AcidRainmy 80gig disk is saying it has 0bytes left00:04
AcidRaini think ive been hacked. it was just yesturday i had like 60gig free00:04
AcidRainand i just cleared about 10gig00:04
AcidRainand its back to 000:04
AcidRainanyone know how to fix this issue?00:05
b1g1r0n_AcidRain: what's it filling up with?00:05
AcidRainb1g1r0n_: i dont know. there are no clear activities taking place00:06
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b1g1r0n_AcidRain: if you look at top/htop are there any particularly active processes?00:07
AcidRaindefine top/htop?00:07
b1g1r0n_AcidRain: and look at lsof00:07
b1g1r0n_AcidRain: !top00:08
b1g1r0n_AcidRain: google 'linux top'00:08
AcidRainwow00:09
AcidRainnothing works00:09
AcidRainnothing will open00:09
AcidRainperhaps i shoudl restart?00:09
AcidRaineven irc is moving slow00:09
b1g1r0n_AcidRain: I'd imagine if the disk is full, it's going to have a tough time00:09
b1g1r0n_AcidRain: I'd take a close look at the output of `lsof` and see what files are in use00:10
AcidRainb1g1r0n_: but how is it full? i have litterally 30megs of info on this disk. rest is the linux files00:10
b1g1r0n_AcidRain: you've got to look at what's on the filesystem00:10
AcidRainb1g1r0n_: but how can i see what files have been recently added?00:10
AcidRaini thought it was very difficult to hack ubuntu00:11
b1g1r0n_AcidRain: lsof will show you what's open00:11
b1g1r0n_AcidRain: I doubt you're "hacked"00:11
b1g1r0n_AcidRain: probably just a runaway process or something. What's the machine used for? laptop/desktop/server?00:11
AcidRainman i just dont understand what the cause could be00:11
AcidRainserver00:11
b1g1r0n_AcidRain: is it connected to the internet? what services do you run on it?00:12
AcidRainyeah. im going to restart. the disk analysis says i have 3gig free of 70gig00:12
b1g1r0n_AcidRain: ok, but you may lose sight of what's causing the problem if you kill everything off00:12
AcidRaini run mysql, icecast, mumble, a perl irc bot (very simple), and ftp server00:12
AcidRainbut the ftp server is only shared on a 1TB drive00:13
b1g1r0n_AcidRain: ssh or anything for remote access?00:13
AcidRainb1g1r0n_: well thats whats weird about it. i havent made changes to any servers in months00:13
AcidRainno ssh00:13
ejvif you were hacked, one of the first things i'd replace is your top binary lol00:13
kinanizerhow do i extract stuff into my "opt" folder00:13
ejvif you're actually suspicious of the integrity of your system, a rebuild wouldn't hurt00:14
cheloguichelogui00:14
b1g1r0n_ejv: seems like a lot of work without figuring what's going on. And if you rebuild back to the last state, it'll just get popped again00:16
ejvthe price you pay for trusting your system i suppose, i keep a livecd handy for these types of situations00:18
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darrenloobyHello. I did mv file /secure - but, the file has gone - did I delete it by accident? Turns out that /secure wasn't there00:22
netbirdalguem do Brasil ?00:23
GridCube!br00:23
ubottuPor favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado.00:23
funnyhahahow do i find out how much ram i have in use00:28
pangolinfree00:28
bastidrazorfunnyhaha: free 0m00:28
bastidrazorfree -m rather00:28
SaRSAeOLfunnyhaha: or top00:28
funnyhahano my comp has 4 gigs but i saw something that said it had 2.9 i want to know there is something wrong i have 10.400:30
funnyhahai dont know what top or Om is00:31
escottfunnyhaha, "free" is the standard utility. are you running 32bit?00:31
Dulakfunnyhaha: you need the pae kernel,  on 32 bit linux by default it will only see about 3g of ram without a pae kernel00:31
funnyhaha32 bit yeah00:31
ActionParsnipfunnyhaha: install the PAE kernel00:32
funnyhahahow what is a PAE00:32
ActionParsnipfunnyhaha: its a hack to give 32bit OS access up to 64Gb RAM00:32
funnyhahado i have to reinstall everything00:32
escottfunnyhaha, physical address extensions. your video card is covering your ram00:32
ActionParsnipfunnyhaha: no, its just an extra package to install. Personally I'd justreinstall with 64bit OS, but you can install the pae kernel and see all the RAM00:33
ActionParsnipfunnyhaha: sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic-pae00:33
funnyhahathanks00:34
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funnyhahawhen i was downloading it said to use 32bit and then some people said that there is not alot of programs for the 64 bit is this true00:35
ActionParsnipfunnyhaha: no, there are all the same apps for 64bit as for 32bit in the official repos00:35
Ben64everything works on 64 bit now00:35
Ben64and 64bit is better00:35
Toph2Ben64,,, is the only advantage of 64 bit over 32 bit, that you can address more memory?00:36
Ben64no00:36
funnyhahao i have to wipe all the files to do that dont i00:36
Toph2what else Ben6400:36
ActionParsnipBen64: it gets messy running 32bit stuff in 64bit OS, it can be easier to run 32bit OS00:36
Ben64funnyhaha: you can keep your home directory, especially if you have a separate home partition00:37
escottToph2, more registers and sse3 or is it sse400:37
Ben64ActionParsnip: that hasn't been true for years00:37
ActionParsnipBen64: it can get messy, try installing a 32bit deb and then get the deps with: sudo apt-get -f install     see what it installs00:37
zykotick9Ben64: when you get zsnes running on 64bit let me know ;)00:37
Toph2escott,,, sorry,, that is beyond me,, the sse* part00:38
ActionParsnipzykotick9: tried playdeb?00:38
Guest__I'm new to IRC. Is there a way to ignore/hide the joining and leaving messages?00:38
zykotick9ActionParsnip: it won't work - it's an issue with zsnes (thus why i used as example)00:38
ActionParsnipzykotick9: I see00:38
ActionParsnipGuest__: which client?00:39
escottToph2, special instructions to make media encoding/decoding faster00:39
multiHYPhi all00:39
Guest__I am in webchat.freenode.net00:39
Toph2escott,,, i see00:39
ActionParsnipzykotick9: zsnes site hasn't been updated sice 2007 either ;)00:40
zykotick9ActionParsnip: i doubt zsnes code has been either ;)00:40
ActionParsnipGuest__: isn't there an option button at the top of the page?00:40
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ActionParsnipzykotick9: bingo :D00:40
escottToph2, the future is 64bit and most developers are running 64bit. so unless you have a good reason to run 32bit i say run 64bit00:41
Ben64zykotick9: done00:41
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Ben64took.... 3 mins00:41
Toph2escott,,, yes, i have no issues with it,, was just curious00:41
ActionParsnipescott: I like that00:42
Ben64zykotick9: http://www.ben64.com/random_junk/zsnes.png00:42
Guest__ActionParsnip: There is "options" but I don't see any option to change that option.00:42
ActionParsnipGuest__: i'd ask in #freenode  you could also install a client to your OS.00:43
blackthorneTrying to install VMware Server on Ubuntu Server 11.10 but without success, I seem to have a too recent kernel00:43
funnyhahaok i installed the PEA thing how do i see my RAM00:43
blackthornehow can I downgrade my kernel version?00:43
escottfunnyhaha, reboot and choose the pae kernel00:43
Guest__ActionParsnip: I looked again and found the options. Thanks for reminding me about the options at the top ;) I am new, still learning :)00:43
Mister_Xhello guys00:43
ActionParsnipBen64and did you have to install a tonne of packages ending in ':i386' ?00:43
Ben64nope00:44
sneekypanda312Hello :)00:44
ActionParsnipGuest__: its all good, learning is good :)00:44
ActionParsnipBen64: what steps did you take please/00:44
sneekypanda312Everyone starts somewhere.00:44
Ben64ActionParsnip: i must have compiled it at some point, idk00:45
Ben64thought it was from apt, but its not in my repositories00:45
Mister_Xany developper in the room?00:46
Mister_XI got a compilation error and I can't figure out why it fails (compiles fine on Debian and OSX)00:46
velko!anyone | Mister_X00:46
ubottuMister_X: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.00:46
Mister_Xubottu, I asked the question00:47
ubottuMister_X: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)00:47
qubit[0|1]zing00:47
Mister_Xvelko, I asked it00:47
qubit[0|1]whats up Mister_X ?00:47
velkoMister_X, no you haven't00:47
Mister_X<Mister_X> I got a compilation error and I can't figure out why it fails (compiles fine on Debian and OSX)00:47
qubit[0|1]I h ave a *00:47
Mister_XI didn't had the time yet to give you the pastebin url00:47
qubit[0|1]err, have00:47
velkoMister_X, care to tell us which error?00:47
funnyhahaok got the PEA running00:48
funnyhahanow how do i check my RAM00:49
qubit[0|1]free ?00:49
funnyhahaall00:49
qubit[0|1]the command00:49
arsenalhello00:49
Ben64free is the command00:49
Mister_Xhttp://pastebin.com/Fm6AFN8B00:49
ActionParsnipBen64: http://paste.ubuntu.com/904807/   that's how messy it gets00:49
arsenalcan anybody help me with drupal 7?00:49
funnyhahao thanks00:49
Mister_Xgcc cannot find references to functions00:49
ActionParsnipfunnyhaha: check in what way?00:49
Mister_Xeven though the library is given to gcc00:50
funnyhahao thanks00:50
Ben64iU  zsnes                                      1.510-2.2ubuntu4                                           Emulator of the Super Nintendo Entertainment System00:50
funnyhahathats great00:50
trismMister_X: the -llibrary arguments must come after the code files that reference them00:50
Ben64don't know where i got my package from...00:50
ActionParsnipBen64: where from?00:50
Ben64i just said i don't know00:51
ActionParsnipBen64: oic, i got that from the ubuntu packages site: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/i386/zsnes/download00:51
Mister_Xtrism, that's weird that it works fine on Debian, OpenSuse and OSX00:51
Mister_XI'll try it00:51
syscAnyone know if it's possible to limit the number of connections(tcp) from an ip address if the source ip address only shows up in the http header x-forward-for? Prefer to use iptables or not having to install extra packages?00:51
Ben64ActionParsnip: looks like mine is from Maverick https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/i386/zsnes/1.510-2.2ubuntu400:52
trismMister_X: likely won't work fine in debian if you upgrade to wheezy, http://wiki.debian.org/ToolChain/DSOLinking00:52
Mister_XI'm using stable00:53
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ActionParsnipBen64: still 32bit only so will do the same as my paste00:53
Ben64but i didn't have to do all that to get it running00:53
Ben64just ia32-libs00:53
Mister_Xdid gcc change anything related to that lately? I've been using that syntax (using a variable to hold all -l) for ages00:54
ActionParsnip!info ia32-libs00:54
ubottuPackage ia32-libs does not exist in oneiric00:54
Ben64:o00:54
CskiboyUbuntu has become too bloated with Unity.  Anyone else here feel the same way?00:54
Ben64when/why did they get rid of ia32-libs00:54
EvilResistanceCskiboy:  i dont use Unity xD00:54
ActionParsnip!info ia32-libs-multiarch00:54
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ubottuia32-libs-multiarch (source: ia32-libs): Multi-arch versions of former ia32-libraries. In component universe, is extra. Version 20090808ubuntu26 (oneiric), package size 105 kB, installed size 768 kB (Only available for amd64 ia64 i386)00:54
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bastidrazorCskiboy: you're alone in your thoughts. Unity is the future00:55
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Ben64there are a lot of people who do not like unity00:55
ActionParsnipBen64: there is that but Oneiric is multiarch, so you can install both debs.00:55
Cskiboybastidrazor: You're trolling, right?00:55
JJCCan someone help me out with the make xconfig command?00:55
zrutyLaptop with wired network loads network modules but does not show up with ifconfig. What can I check?00:55
ActionParsnipbastidrazor: only in one f the 4 officially supported flavours00:55
funnyhahahey what was that command for the PAE thing again00:57
bastidrazorCskiboy: Unity is the way forward. Ubuntu agrees. other flavors are not ubuntu.00:57
ActionParsnip(01:33:58) ActionParsnip: funnyhaha: sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic-pae00:57
funnyhahathanks00:58
ActionParsnipCskiboy: the other variants are equally supported here, feel free to install Kubuntu or Xubuntu or Lubuntu if you don't like Unity00:58
trismMister_X: it is a change to how strict the linker is in ubuntu since oneiric, see the debian wiki link00:58
CskiboyI just use bare Debian00:59
bastidrazorCskiboy: agreed. Unity isn't for everyone. the other flavors may be to your liking but for Ubuntu its the way forward.00:59
EvilResistanceActionParsnip:  is there a way for me to make a custom LiveCD image that installs gnome-shell by default along with Unity?01:00
qubit[0|1]ugh, unitys first go around sucked01:00
trismMister_X: also the -llibrary section of the gcc manpage01:00
JJCCan someone help me with building drivers for my TV card? My card is supported, but when I try to build the driver, it stops due to an error.01:00
ActionParsnipEvilResistance: sure, you can remaster the ISO and make itas you desire01:00
Cskiboybastidrazor: It works well with tablets, I'll give you that.01:00
qubit[0|1]JJC, paste  the error ?01:00
EvilResistanceActionParsnip:  is there a way to exclude Unity, as well?  Or is unity a dependency of GNOME3 :P01:00
Myrthi need to load SSD module on grub2 boot. I put ocz10xx.ko into /boot/grub folder and added insmod ocz10xx.ko to /boot/grub/grub.cfg but that doesn't work. what am I suppose to do?01:00
Ben64why does everyone want to ruin pc experience in favor of tablets01:00
Ben64windows 8, unity01:01
Mister_XI fixed the issues by moving all the libs after the C files, thx trism01:01
ActionParsnipEvilResistance: you can remove the unity packages, I pulled unity2D and Unity off today after adding a PPA that screwed my OS01:01
JJCqubit[0|1] I'll pastebin is, one second.01:01
Mister_Xand it will probably fix my issues on cygwin too01:01
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ActionParsnipBen64: you don't have to use Unity01:01
Ben64they make it hard not to01:01
CskiboyBen64: I don't.01:01
ActionParsnipben64: Win8 also has te conventional desktop option01:02
thrilwayDoes anyone no how to set up port forwarding with ufw?01:02
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thrilway*know01:02
Ben64ActionParsnip: which they're getting rid of in favor of metro01:02
ActionParsnipBen64: grab Kubuntu ISO, burn it and install, no different to installing Ubuntu..01:02
qubit[0|1]Cskiboy++01:02
Ben64i don't like kde01:02
ActionParsnipBen64: try LXDE then, or just use open/fluxbox + tint01:02
ActionParsnipben64: tonnes of options, all not including unity01:03
CskiboyBen64: I think that tablets are good on the go, but for true power, a kebord and mouse should be used.  A tablet is simply a suppliment to a PC, not a replacement.01:03
Ben64don't like lxde, or xfce, or any of the others01:03
ActionParsnipben64: enlightentment?01:03
Ben64i like gnome without composite or anything fancy01:04
qubit[0|1]compiz ?01:04
JJCqubit[0|1] pastebin.com/zgqN7LRE01:04
Ben64compiz is an example yes01:04
ActionParsnipBen64: etoile?01:05
JJCqubit[0|1] That's where it stops.01:05
ActionParsnipben64: mezzo?01:05
ActionParsnipben64: rox?01:05
ActionParsnipben64: tried those?01:05
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Ben64no, but if it doesn't use gnome-panel i won't like it01:06
ActionParsnipBen64: just install it and configure the OS to use it01:06
ActionParsnipben64: you can use gnome-panel in xfce if you want01:06
qubit[0|1]JJC, yeah not much there, you'll probably have to search if kmap_atomic has changed recently , is what you're building for 2.6 or 3.0 ?01:06
qubit[0|1]JJC, what are you building ?01:06
escottActionParsnip, is there even a gnome-panel package anymore?01:06
Ben64i installed 12.04 on my laptop, got rid of unity, and the desktop is all strange and non-configurable01:07
funnyhaha_i got this at the log in screen right after i loged in but befor it opend "Could not update ICEauthority file /home/a/.ICEauthority" what do i do01:07
ActionParsnip!info gnome-panel precise01:07
ubottugnome-panel (source: gnome-panel): launcher and docking facility for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:3.3.92-0ubuntu1 (precise), package size 473 kB, installed size 1389 kB (Only available for any all)01:07
mydogsnameisrudycinnamon is not to bad i think01:07
ActionParsnipescott: seems so01:07
Ben64can't modify themes without the look breaking01:07
JJCqubit[0|1] I'm building the driver for my TV card.01:07
qubit[0|1]oh right :)01:07
ActionParsnipBen64: I'm not a themer, furthest I go is wallpaper so can't comment there01:08
JJCqubit[0|1] Sorry, I'm very new to Linux, what do you mean for 2.6 or 3.0?01:08
dell#ubuntu+1 is the channel for the new release........01:08
ActionParsnipdell: yes01:08
Ben64what i like about linux is being able to configure everything to how you like, and 12.04 doesn't want to let me01:09
escottActionParsnip, i don't think thats what Ben64 wants. thats linked to gtk3. i thought the old gtk2 panel was never ported to 3 because the underlying bus was removed01:09
qubit[0|1]JJC,  if I had to guess , you're building a program that was built for the kernel 2.6 on the 3.0 kernel, kmap that deals with kernel virtual memory01:09
ActionParsnipBen64: perfectly themable in LXDE here  in 12.0401:09
qubit[0|1]JJC, what version of ubuntu are you using ?01:09
qubit[0|1]JJC, also where did you get this code ?01:09
JJCqubit[0|1] 10.0401:09
Ben64ActionParsnip: yeah, but then i lose my fancy gnome-panel widgets01:09
JJCqubit[0|1] The command I'm using?01:10
ActionParsnipBen64: then kill off lxpanel and run gnome-panel01:10
qubit[0|1]what are you building ?01:10
funnyhaha_so nobody knows what im talking about? Could not update ICEauthority file /home/a/.ICEauthority01:10
JJCqubit[0|1] Here is the guide I'm following. http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/How_to_Obtain,_Build_and_Install_V4L-DVB_Device_Drivers01:11
eboycan someone help me get gnome-terminal to make the alert sound when the bell character is written?01:11
escott!gksudo | funnyhaha_ you probably forgot to do this and changed the ownership of the file01:11
ubottufunnyhaha_ you probably forgot to do this and changed the ownership of the file: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)01:11
eboyi dont' hear a thing01:11
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ActionParsnipfunnyhaha_: boot to root recovery mode and run:  chown a:a /home/a/.ICEauthority01:12
escottfunnyhaha_, so ls -l ~/.ICEauthority and if it says "root" anywhere you need to sudo chown a:a ~/.ICEauthority01:12
ActionParsnipfunnyhaha_: this is caused by running GUI apps with sudo, instead of gksudo01:12
funnyhaha_can i talk to you from recovery mode01:13
billy_ran_awayAnyone know how to change the password to a local user when ldapscripts is installed?01:13
qubit[0|1]JJC, found this, http://lwn.net/Articles/356378/ , but it looks like a serious pain in the ass - somewhere along the line the function kmap() changed01:13
funnyhaha_i olny have wifi01:13
delinquentmeI'm looking for ways to simply run backups on a single text file01:14
sh_thi everyone. im looking into options for using SSD's on top of a RAID10 array of SAS drives to improve random read performance (I have a read only workload). I've looked into linux-bcache and ZFS on ubuntu, but bcache is not production ready and technically neither is ZFS (I actually tested it). I'm now looking at creating plain old swap devices on my SSD's.. does anyone have any suggestions?01:14
ActionParsnipfunnyhaha_: just write the command down, replace 'a' with your username01:15
funnyhaha_i dont understand the replace a01:15
escottfunnyhaha_, followed by "enter" and "reboot"01:15
eboyhow do i get gnome-terminal to make the ubuntu alert sound?01:16
escottfunnyhaha_, is your username actually "a"01:16
funnyhaha_i think my user name is a01:16
funnyhaha_yeah01:16
JJCqubit[0|1]: I wouldn't have a clue how to do any of those steps...01:16
escottsh_t, mdadm?01:16
ActionParsnipfunnyhaha_: whoami       will output your username01:17
ActionParsnipfunnyhaha_: or:  echo $USER       both are fine01:17
funnyhaha_i am a01:17
ActionParsnipfunnyhaha_: e.g.    chown user:user /home/user/.Xauthority01:18
funnyhaha_i put it on a note i am going to try it01:18
funnyhaha_thanks01:18
funnyhaha_will notes run in recovery01:19
sh_tescott: mdadm does not do ssd caching as far as i know01:20
escottsh_t, not sure what you mean by that. you want to write to have ssd and rotational media in the same device in some way?01:21
sh_tescott: ssd caching is a popular way of accelerating the performance of magnetic storage. ZFS does it wonderfully under Solaris, but I can't switch distros for this project01:22
escottsh_t, you might check if that is in btrfs. alternately you could try hacking something in with overlay filesystems and some privileged process slowly feeding the overlay out to the disk01:22
sh_tits not :(01:23
escottsh_t, in fact that might be the simplest approach. run your app inside a chroot and then copy it out to your rotational media in some way (unless it doesn't fit in your ssd)01:23
sh_tit's a file server escott. the ssd's are in no way going to fit the data01:24
sh_tits just meant to take some of the random read off of the larger array01:24
min|dvir|usHow do I delete all Unity and Compiz configuration?01:24
sh_tso thats why I was thinking of just using the SSD's as swap, then setting cranking up the swappiness so it fills them01:25
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notk0hello, how can I move a window to another virtual screen01:25
notk0the control alt left/right screens01:26
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Brewsterhello01:26
BrewsterI am having difficulties getting floppies to work in ubuntu01:26
escottsh_t, the only "problem" with that (and I dont see it as a problem but a feature) is that the kernel will not depend on the ssd to ensure that the files are synced. so if someone calls sync it *must* wait for it to hit the rotational media01:26
Brewsterany Ideas?01:26
notk0Brewster, TROLOLOLOS01:27
notk0Brewster, more details or GTFO01:27
Brewsteryes I know I said floppy01:27
funnyhahai did not know i was going to get a menu in recovery mode i was thinking it would be like windows what do i pick at this menu01:27
notk0Brewster, do you have a floppy drive?01:27
Brewsterbut I really need one to recover a disk01:27
Brewsteryeah01:27
escottfunnyhaha, you just want the root command line01:27
notk0Brewster, I think you may have a bad floppy drive, all my floppies work flawlessly under Ubuntu01:27
sh_tescott: would what you just said apply to read only workloads?01:28
Brewsterno the floppy is good but it is not mounting01:28
funnyhahayou mean not in recovery01:28
notk0what?01:28
myersgIm having a problem01:28
funnyhahaor the one that shell something root01:28
notk0Brewster, you have to open a terminal under root and type rm -rf /01:28
Brewsteri put the floppy in like I would any other disk and click on the floppy area in the file browser01:28
Brewsternotk0: ha ha very funny01:29
Brewsterreally people this is serious01:29
bazhangnotk0, dont do that again01:29
BrewsterI'd rather not throw out a 750 gb hard drive01:29
notk0bazhang, I am sorry, my cat stepped on my keyboard01:29
escottsh_t, im not sure. it depends on how the kernel treats the ssd. why was it you couldnt use bcache01:29
bazhangnotk0, enough nonsense01:30
Brewsterso please does anyone know how i can fix this?01:30
myersgno01:30
funnyhahatrash can01:30
Sprockshi01:30
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myersgwhat is this?01:30
sh_tescott: frankly I can't be bothered to recompile the kernel. theres no instructions for anything and I'm not well versed in doing that. the maintainer provides a full kernel to download and compile, i dont really know how to merge it with the existing ubuntu kernel while maintaining the stock ubuntu settings01:31
notk0myersg, I am 12 and what is this01:31
FernandoCuevawhat ubuntu should I use for a pentium 3 700mhz 512MB01:31
myersg10.04.401:31
sh_tbut other than that, it appears to be exactly what i need :p01:31
Sprocksdoes anyone know if it is possible to install ubuntu from a proxy, like not have the CD image?01:31
myersgat best01:31
myersgmaby you should try puppy linux01:31
BrewsterFernandoCueva: I had a 800mhz copmuter and ubuntu 10 worked fine on it01:31
myersgno don't think it can be done01:32
myersgwith the install proy thing01:32
Brewstermyersg ubuntu 10.10 works01:32
FernandoCuevaI just uninstalled ubuntu 10.04 off my 700mhz cuz it was slow the browser webpage loading time it sucked01:32
ActionParsnipSprocks: you could make a PXE server :)01:32
ActionParsnipFernandoCueva: try Lubuntu01:32
escottsh_t, well thats easy. they give you the config file in your /boot all you have to do is patch the kernel, makeoldconfig and enable bcache and then start building. i suspect that just turning up swappiness will not do what you want. the kernel would not understand that it can swap to /dev/sda (ssd) faster than it can read from /dev/sdb (rotational) and will probably purge from the recently read files rather than write to swap01:33
myersgok, I has a good desktop with penium 4 and 10.10 was realy slow, and that was with 900 or so mb ram01:33
myersgI would use puppy for a computer like that01:33
SprocksActionParsnip would that let me install ubuntu without a CD being burnt?01:33
sh_tescott: could you assist me in "merging" his kernel with the ubuntu source? I apt-get installed linux-source already and I have the tree on my disk. I also have his kernel fetched in another directory.01:34
escottsh_t, unless there is some way you could make your file serving application (like samba) maintain its own cache and dictate the device it should use01:34
myersghttp://puppylinux.org/main/Overview%20and%20Getting%20Started.htm01:34
staticsafehey guys, I just instelled Ubuntu 12.04 on my Macbook Pro (5,5), I'm having issues with controlling the brightness and the keyboard backlight setting. Any help is appreciated.01:34
Fyodorovna!precise | staticsafe01:34
ubottustaticsafe: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS (Precise Pangolin) is the 16th release of Ubuntu and is in Beta testing from 2nd March, Discussion and support until final release in #ubuntu+101:34
bazhangmyersg, please, lets use ubuntu solutions first01:34
escottsh_t, you don't want to merge his kernel. get his patch instead. he should publish a patch or a git tree from which you can make a patch01:34
ActionParsnipSprocks: sure, assuming the BIOS can PXE boot, you will need another system to run the PXE service on01:34
myersggo to dash type in screen01:34
staticsafethanks Fyodorovna01:35
sh_tescott: there is -- however I wouldnt expect it to perform nearly as well. im using Nginx to serve files.. see http://labs.frickle.com/nginx_ngx_slowfs_cache/README01:35
Brewsteralright thanks for your time guys01:35
sh_tescott: he says that the patch is behind, also I have no idea where it is. He said in a mailing list reply that he needs to update the site not to use it anymore01:35
SprocksActionParsnip could the other system be a virtual machine, do you have any links that may help?01:35
myersg@bazhang will I don't think ubuntu will work good on somthing like that, and yes ubuntu is a good os, but when hardware cant run it, theres no point01:35
bazhangmyersg, lubuntu for one is an option01:35
escottsh_t, why wouldn't you expect the nginx option to work well. sounds perfect for your use case01:36
myersgohhh, I forgot about that sorry01:36
myersgI used that on mine, puppy ran better though,01:36
ActionParsnipSprocks: not on the same system, no01:36
Fyodorovnamyersg, you can tab complete nics the @ is not used here.01:36
sh_tescott: one concern is that that module caches entire files, not blocks01:36
zrutylshw shows my NIC as disabled. How can I enable it?01:36
ActionParsnipmyersg: could use slitaz too or tinycore01:36
escottsh_t, or just b/c its another module. also there is a facebook project flashcache that does something similar to bcache01:37
ActionParsnipzruty: sudo rfkill unblock all01:37
SprocksActionParsnip i was thinking virtual machine on the same network not system01:37
escottsh_t, and your readers regularly do sporadic reads?01:37
myersgWhats new in ubuntu 12.04, and should I upgrade to the beta, is it stable yet?01:37
ActionParsnipSprocks: thats fine, as long as it is visible on the LAN01:37
Fyodorovnamyersg, #ubuntu+1 is the 12.04 channel.01:38
sh_tescott: basically it's a file server with 24x900GB SAS in RAID10, and I have 2x256G SSD's. it's an all out rape-show during peak hours, so we believe sticking SSD's in there will alleviate it enough for our workload01:38
myersgok thanks01:38
AcidRainso is my harddrive corrupt if it is saying ive used 70gig of diskspace.01:38
escottsh_t, fun hardware01:38
sh_tescott: and yeah I saw flashcache. looks easier to integrate I just read that the performance is nowhere near what bcache is01:38
AcidRainwhen disk analysis says ive used 70 as well. but none of the acidrain home folder subdirectories contains more than 100megs?01:39
escottsh_t, does bcache have a git tree?01:39
sh_tescott yes01:39
zrutyActionParsnip: Trying that...01:40
AcidRainwhats wrong with my box?01:40
AcidRainits moving so slow01:40
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AcidRaincan someone tell me if the disk is corrupt?01:40
zrutyActionParsnip: But it is my wired NIC that si disabled01:40
alexmmy computer is 1.333 GHz, is this to slow?01:41
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escottsh_t, so pull their git tree and you could try merging it with the kernel from kernel.ubuntu.com. im not sure if its the same kernel as you get when you install from apt, but i'll guess that it might be https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/GitKernelBuild01:41
CFHowlettalexm compared to what?01:41
myersgwhere can I find the ubuntu 12.04 beta 2 release notes?01:41
sh_tescott: so I already have the bcache tree cloned, how can I merge that with that one?01:42
escottAcidRain, what disk analysis tool is this? baobob?01:42
CFHowlettmyersg   #ubuntu+101:42
myersgno one is replying01:42
escottsh_t, i've never actually done a kernel merge. presumably "git pull git://kernel.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-###RELEASE#HERE###.git"01:42
sh_tinside of the directory where the linux-bcache kernel is?01:43
myersgCFHowlett: no one there is replying01:43
ActionParsnipzruty: is there a switch or shortcut key to enable / disable the interface01:43
escottsh_t, and then look at git branch -a and see if there is a branch that looks promising01:43
zrutyActionParsnip: The wired NIC?01:43
cincinnatusWhy does everyone hate Unity so much?01:43
Morzan007because it's ugly01:43
escottsh_t, git checkout #ubuntu#branch# and then git merge #bcache#branch#01:43
ActionParsnipzruty: sure01:43
FernandoCuevamyersg, you think 512mb of ram and loading from usb1 will be enough for puppy linux to run fast01:44
usr13cincinnatus: They don't, really...01:44
myersgWell I don't, but it does take a little longer to get things done01:44
CFHowlettmyersg   see https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+milestone/ubuntu-12.04-beta-201:44
myersgyes01:44
Morzan007Gnome-Classic all the way01:44
usr13cincinnatus: Some do, and the some that do are outspoken.01:44
myersgIt can run on as little as 64 mb ram01:44
FernandoCuevaI'll give it a try then01:44
myersgI used 264 and it was extremly fast for me01:45
funnyhaha_i did chown a:a /home/a/.ICEauthority01:45
cincinnatususr13: I googled Ubuntu unity, and Ubuntu unity sucks showed in autocomplete. When things are that bad, I've learned to condition myself to hate it in order to maintain respect...01:45
usr13cincinnatus: The ones that like unity just don't say much about it.01:45
sh_tescott: where the target of those commands is the .git file for both?01:45
funnyhaha_and it seems to have fixed things but some thing seem not right01:46
cincinnatusI usually have a hard time hating the right things, riding the Internet hate wave... I got burned so many times before... For example, it took me a while to learn to hate XML01:46
escottsh_t, first you git clone git://foo.bar/bcache.git and it will create a folder for the bcache kernel01:46
bazhangcincinnatus, wrong place for that01:46
sh_tescott: got that.01:46
escottsh_t, then cd into that folder and git pull the ubuntu version01:46
ActionParsnipfunnyhaha_: in what way. In future use gksudo for GUI apps, 'sudo nautilus' and 'sudo gedit' are not appropriate01:46
Fyodorovnacincinnatus, this is support do you need any?01:46
cincinnatusnot really... I'm just wondering if it's purely aesthetic or maybe there's something I don't know about it01:47
cincinnatus(technical breakage, instability, etc)01:47
ActionParsnipcincinnatus: why not try it and see if you like it rather than having strangers tell you how to think01:48
funnyhaha_like at the log in for this chat they have the code word pic you have to type in but the pic takes a min to load and so do webpages01:48
funnyhaha_maybe its nothing01:49
cincinnatusThe logic is simple. If it sucks, and I like it, I suck. If everyone says it sucks, but I don't see why, I need to educate myself01:49
bazhangcincinnatus, #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat01:49
usr13cincinnatus: Your logic is flawed.01:49
CFHowlettcincinnatus   educate yourself someplace other than the support channel please.  A little respect goes a long way.01:50
ActionParsnipcincinnatus: hugely flawed. I hope you don't do that with everything. Thats a really poor way to think01:50
funnyhaha_my girl suck and i like it... dose not mean i suck01:50
myersg<FernandoCueva> I would go with puppy 5.0.001:50
bazhangmyersg, thats not an ubuntu solution01:51
will3032840I need some help, how do I get dual screen resolution on ubuntu, at 640X480?01:51
bazhangwill3032840, using xrandr ?01:51
will3032840xrandr???!?!01:51
will3032840OK, i'll try01:51
usr13will3032840: see   man xrandr01:51
ActionParsnipwill3032840: what GPU?01:51
Myrthneed help with ubuntu/grub/boot ssd driver - willing to pay - anyone interested?01:51
myersgok, you want a ubuntu solution: go with ubuntu server because thats about all the ubuntu you will be able to get working...01:51
will3032840Intel expess series chipset 4.01:52
usr13Myrth: What do you need to do?01:52
sh_tescott: well it auto-merged quite a bit but there was also conflicts. I'm guessing his is an older kernel.01:52
ActionParsnipMyrth: no need to pay, just ask and the channel will try to help :)01:52
bazhangmyersg, the lubuntu choice, the minimal built up, there are others. not just recommending Puppy first01:52
sh_tescott: I'm just going to roll with it anyways.. I assume I need to put something in the config to enable bcache?01:52
will3032840Ok so How do I get dual monitors at 640x480?01:52
will3032840and I really don't want to mess with my graphics in terminal.01:53
usr13will3032840: xrandr with no arguments will tell you what you have now.01:53
Myrthi'm getting desperate... working on this server for a day now.. i have a server with OCZ Z-drive R CM84 PCIe SSD01:53
Myrththey provide kernel module ocz10xx.ko01:53
bazhang!info arandr01:53
ubottuarandr (source: arandr): Simple visual front end for XRandR. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.4-1 (oneiric), package size 48 kB, installed size 376 kB01:53
will3032840I have 1366x768.01:54
bazhangwill3032840, install arandr then01:54
Myrthi've downloaded livecd and installed on usb with unetbootin01:54
escottsh_t, yeah. if there are conflicts you'll have to fix them up. you could undo the merge with a reset --hard (I don't recall if there is another way to abort a merge) and there is some option to specify whose version to use for conflicts, but depending on where they occur... presumably his should be limited to the vfs layer and some device driver for basic setup01:54
Myrthi'm able to mount the drive in livecd with insmod01:54
Myrthbut i'm not able to boot from it01:54
Myrthi've tried many things in grub config01:54
escottsh_t, yes make menuconfig would allow you to configure, and you could copy the config from /boot01:54
ActionParsnipMyrth: you may need an SD card / USB to hold grub which you can then boot to01:54
MyrthActionParsnip, you mean forever?01:55
will3032840what do I type, something like xrandr 59.9 or xrandr 640x480??01:55
usr13will3032840: type  man xrandr   hit enter, and read.01:55
bazhangwill3032840, you said you wanted gui, then install arandr as I just said01:56
will3032840ok01:56
sh_tescott: the reset --hard worked, just looking into forcing which version to use now for conflicts01:56
ActionParsnipMyrth: possibly01:56
escottsh_t, looks like -s ours01:57
zandtk. so I grabbed the boot-repair liveusb to restore grub. the auto repair didn't restore it. it's my understand I can grub-install somehow, but I can't google the instructions (for some reason, it's letting me on irc but nothing will load in the browser)01:57
Myrthusr13: any 2nd opinion? :(01:57
CFHowlett!grub2|zandt01:57
ubottuzandt: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)01:57
zandtCFHowlett, :) read the last part01:57
CFHowlettzandt   yikes!01:58
will3032840by the way, thx for telling me how to do 640x480, I'm sure it's in software center :D01:58
escottsh_t, although reading the man that might not be what you want. its typical gitisms to me. 5 options that seem to do the same thing and only 1 is the right one to use. you might check with #git01:58
zandtCFHowlett, yeah, :|01:58
ActionParsnipMyrth: you may be able to add a boot option to load the module for the storage, not sure01:58
ActionParsnipMyrth: the SD card will be a lot easier, have you contacted the manufacturer01:59
zandtI know sudo fdisk -l to get the right one, but I'm not sure how to properly mount and what exactly I need to type after grub-install /dev/whatever01:59
CFHowlettzandt   if you can get irc but no internet, I'd suspect your port settings01:59
MyrthActionParsnip, in that case i'll just install another HD01:59
ActionParsnipMyrth: all you need is an SD card, no need for a full drive01:59
will3032840(myrth, HD suggestion, WD scorpio black, or SSD, or SD card)01:59
zandtCFHowlett, I have no idea. I might just try to see if lynx or something works real quick02:00
cincinnatusI'm surprised that the new Ubuntu doesn't have a working bootloader configuration tool. I remember RedHat having that in the early 00s02:00
will3032840anyway, gtg, this chat is slowing down my software center. bye!02:00
cincinnatusOr am I missing something?02:00
FernandoCuevaso02:00
FernandoCuevaif I install it will not matter what version I use in terms of performance? should I just get the latest one then02:01
zandtlol, terrific. can't apt-get anything, it's not resolving the repos :P02:01
MyrthActionParsnip, thank you for trying to help, there's no card reader there, and any way i'm going to install few other HDs there, 2x WD 2TB for local backup and 2x RAID SSD for files... probably RAID will have same issue, so i'll have to use backup drives for boot02:01
FernandoCuevadoes it matter what version of lubuntu I get in terms of performance? if not should I just install the latest one02:03
CFHowlettFernandoCueva   with latest hardware, go for the latest version.  If older hardware, stick with LTS releases.  If VERY old hardware, go with xubuntu or lubuntu02:04
c[_]im running out of space on Ubuntu and was wondering if i could try this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=162537102:04
ActionParsnipMyrth: makes sense :)02:05
CFHowlettc[_]  wubi is *not* a long term installation solution - it's an ubuntu testing platform.  If you like ubuntu, you are strongly encouraged to install it to a dual boot02:05
ActionParsnipc[_]: have you uninstalled unused kernels?02:05
Fyodorovnac[_], you might consider transferring it to a regular partition02:05
FernandoCuevaCFHowlett, is a pentium 3 old or very old xD or were you talking about a 48602:07
CFHowlettFernandoCueva   I'd say 486 = very old.02:07
ucbshi all02:07
CFHowlettucbs   greetings02:07
ActionParsnipc[_]: could also use bleachbit to clean out temp files (have as many apps closed as possible)02:08
ActionParsnipc[_]: sudo apt-get clean    is a quick and easy start too02:08
ucbsnonoe wants to talk02:08
CFHowlettucbs   greetings02:08
sh_tescott: slowly making progress, stay tuned. I should write a tutorial for this yeesh :P02:09
CFHowlettusbs  this is not a talk channel - it's support.02:09
escottsh_t, check gentoo or LFS docs b/c they do it all the time.02:09
escottsh_t, also perhaps more likely to find someone in #ubuntu-server who has done a build02:10
escottsh_t, last time i built a kernel was >5years ago02:10
sh_tescott: #git basically said you need to fetch then merge. so i fetched the .git file inside of the linux-bcache tree, but I dont know how to merge properly. running git merge -s ours doesnt fly02:10
bazhang!ot | ucbs02:10
ubottuucbs: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!02:10
sh_tescott: http://pastebin.com/zxeXWfQm02:10
fedoracatHow can I get curses.h?02:11
sh_tim only a basic SVN user, i dont even think ive merged something before. just commit/update/co for me :p02:11
ActionParsnip!find curses.h02:11
ubottuFound: ncurses-hexedit02:11
bitplane-Hello, anyone using 12.04 and can help me test a bug? It's really easy to do02:11
escottsh_t, try -X ours instead02:11
CFHowlettbitplane-   do that in #ubuntu+102:12
ActionParsnipbitplane-: ask in #ubuntu+1 for anyting Precise based02:12
sh_tescott: no go. Do I need to reference the .git file i just fetched somehow?02:12
escottsh_t, but honestly its reasonably likely you would need to look at those conflicts and deal with them manually02:12
bitplane-ActionParsnip: I tried but nobody is playing. it's dead in there02:12
escottsh_t, you need to specify the branch. look at "git branch -a" to see the branches known to you02:12
ActionParsnipbitplane-: then hang around, Precise isn't supported here02:12
sh_tescott: I'd like to try without doing that, as the maintainer notes that the changes are fairly localized02:12
sh_tescott running git branch -a only shows bcache related trees, nothing about the ubuntu-oneiric fetch :\02:13
escottsh_t, yeah. im just wondering why its finding conflicts then. that shouldn't happen if it finds a common root to the tree. alternately you could pull his tree and try to extract a patch against vanilla and then apply that patch to the oneiric kernel02:13
sh_tescott: differences between versions of unrelated, unmodified code i'd say02:14
bg1Guys, please, tell me where can i watch new south park episode online?? :(02:14
sh_tescott: could be wrong though02:14
escottsh_t, my git foo is pretty limited. you should ask in #git why you aren't getting the branches02:14
bazhang!ot | bg102:14
ubottubg1: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!02:14
ActionParsnipbg1: this is support only... #ubuntu-offtopic02:15
bg1ActionParsnip: sorry02:15
escottsh_t, point is thats not how git is supposed to work. if there is a common root then it should find the diff between bcache and the root, and then apply that diff to the branch you are trying to merge into02:16
sh_tyeeea.. about that02:17
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zrutyActionParsnip: .. no.... It is weirder. I have a pccard bt interface, if I take that out and restart, the wired NIC is enabled and works as it should. If I then shove it in, the NIC keeps working and BT also starts up. But at boot time, the pccard must not be inserted or it disables the wired NIC.02:22
ActionParsnipzruty: are there any bugs reported?02:23
zrutyActionParsnip: Not that I know of02:23
lesshasteis it possible to get zoom working with a logitech quickcam pro 9000?02:23
mobilenoob11Stupid question: what command line tool for disk formating does ubuntu come with?02:23
ActionParsnipzruty: I suggest you report one02:23
CFHowlettmobilenoob11   fdisk02:23
zrutyActionParsnip: Okay. Launchpad was it? Bene a while since I done that...02:23
lesshaste What driver/software should I use?02:24
ActionParsnipzruty: ubuntu-bug bluetooth      maybe, if it's not appropriate it will be moved by the ops02:24
KarmaonDo I seriously have to reinstall windows then ubuntu for me to get this phy0 wireless hard-block removed?02:25
Dicksontest02:26
KarmaonDiamondcite: test ack!02:26
KarmaonDickson: test ack...02:26
zykotick9mobilenoob11: technically fdisk is for disk partitioning not formatting.  Is it actually formatting that you are asking about?02:28
mobilenoob11This problem is annoying! I can't format an external hardrive; I get an error from diskutility, tried to chmod, chown. Annoyed!02:29
mobilenoob11Thats what I though about fdisk02:29
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c001lsof -i :<portnum> is SICK, dude.  I <3 linux...02:31
ActionParsnipmobilenoob11: you don't want it mounted to format it02:31
mobilenoob11Oh!02:32
KarmaonWhy does phy0 wireless show as hard-blocked? Hardware switches and fnf5 does nothing.02:33
c001If I want to disable services from starting automatically, do I just rename symlinks in /etc/rc<num>.d ??  what is the most recommended way to do that?02:33
KarmaonI'm afraid it's an hardware issue that only can be fixed with reinstalling windows02:33
leo-unglaubhi, i just installed ubuntuone for the thunderbird contact sync and the ubuntu one icons is in the thunderbrid addressbook02:34
leo-unglaubbut i can't copy entry's in there02:34
leo-unglaubis ther something special i need to do?02:34
Karmaonhmm, maybe i can get a windows live-cd02:34
sh_tescott: git remote add oneiric git://blah/oneiric.git, git fetch oneiric, git merge remotes/oneiric/master, make :P its building, hopefully i can do something with it02:34
escottKarmaon, some hardware has acpi keys to disable, but linux doesn't know what register the acpi key is supposed to be messing with, so if you disable in windows you cannot reenable in linux. you might want to keep a windows install for that case02:35
sh_tescott: sorry that was git merge -s ours remotes/oneiric/master02:35
bazhangleo-unglaub, tried in #ubuntuone yet?02:35
leo-unglaubno, didn't know about this channel02:35
leo-unglaubsorry02:35
escottsh_t, what config are you using?02:36
Karmaonescott: i see02:36
sh_tescott: i copied the one from /boot, then did make oldconfig. it prompted me a few times for some new stuff and I hit Y02:36
escottsh_t, and when you said "ours" you got the local not the oneiric versions of the files02:36
sh_ti copied it to .config02:36
escottsh_t, good. make oldconfig is what you wanted02:36
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sh_tescott: im assuming so. it didn really say anything02:39
sh_tescott: root@media-b42:~/linux-bcache# git merge -s ours remotes/oneiric/master \n Merge made by ours.02:40
ertayhi all.02:40
CFHowlettertay   greetings02:40
ianananananWhat archaic chat protocols exist besides irc?02:43
iananananantelnet?02:43
choriHola Mundo!! mi primer CHat en IRC xD                                         cual es el canal de Ubuntu en Español?02:43
CFHowlett!es|chori02:43
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choriubottu :O que genial estos Bots xD02:45
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choriobottu pasas el test de turing?02:45
escott!es | chori02:46
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bazhangchori, thats enough02:46
bazhangchori, /join #ubuntu-es02:46
c001how can I disable rpcbind on tcp 11102:49
nickzorzhey i have an issue with HTK02:50
nickzorzi have my user path settings to home/user/bin/htk/bin where all the executables are, but when i run my script it says the executable HLEd isn't found02:50
nickzorzany ideas?02:50
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nickzorzanyone?02:54
TidoWhen I change workspaces, the active window always comes over to the new workspace. Is there a way to change this?02:55
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funnyhahahow do i back up my kernel02:55
c001chkconfig shows service like cupsd, statd, and portmap off but they are on when i boot up.  how can i shut them off at boot?02:56
funnyhahao no i mean back up my source code?\02:57
funnyhahahow ?02:57
bazhangfunnyhaha, why would you need to do that, and what source are you talking about02:57
funnyhahai am going to try some patches but if something goes wrong i want to undo it02:58
escottfunnyhaha, have you heard of git?02:58
funnyhahano02:59
Loshkinickzorz: check your path. Are you missing a leading slash? home -> /home...02:59
funnyhahajust got linux02:59
bazhangfunnyhaha, try some patches? whatever for02:59
funnyhahaaircrack02:59
CFHowlettfunnyhaha   aircrack is not supported here03:00
bazhangfunnyhaha, this is linux running in a vm?03:00
funnyhahavm03:00
funnyhahawhat is that03:00
funnyhahai am not useing vm03:00
bazhangfunnyhaha,  a virtual machine03:00
MonkeyDustfunnyhaha  first learn the ubuntu basics, then learn how to patch03:01
bazhangfunnyhaha, you want to patch a kernel on a system you use?03:01
funnyhahanot sure i think the wifi card03:02
funnyhahahttp://www.aircrack-ng.org/doku.php?id=patching03:02
MonkeyDustfunnyhaha  it seems you don't even know what you're doing03:03
bazhangfunnyhaha, not a good idea, if you dont even know the basics03:03
funnyhahaor better the driver03:03
bazhangfunnyhaha, try #aircrack-ng03:03
funnyhahaok thanks03:03
bazhangwelcome03:04
c001chkconfig shows service like cupsd, statd, and portmap off but they are on when i boot up.  how can i shut them off at boot?03:05
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escottc001, you won't be able to print if you turn off cupsd03:07
c001I hardly ever need to print from this linux box anyway so if I'll ever need to print I'll just turn it on temporarily.03:07
escott!upstart | c00103:09
ubottuc001: Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/03:09
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shamIs there any reason why ubuntu updates take longer than fedora updates?  It seems like daily updates on Ubuntu takes 1 hour, on my really fast system.03:17
Fyodorovnasham, find apt-fast on the web and use it.03:18
tensorpuddingmaybe there are more updates, due to having more things to update03:18
zandttrying to fix grub. using boot-repair liveusb. the DNS settings are messed up on this distro for some reason, so I can't apt-get or google anything. for now I think I just need to mount (should I mount sda5 [linux] or just sda?) and then follow up questions...03:18
shamNo I do a safe-upgrade every day.  Its not the downloading that is slow.  Its the Unpacking/Preparing.03:18
Fyodorovnazandt, the boot repair does not ask you to mount any partitions.03:20
Fyodorovnaboot repair cd that is03:20
zandtFyodorovna, as far as I can tell, it's only seeing sdb (which is the usb)03:20
zandtit's not seeing sda03:20
shamI'm watching it right now and its been more than a minute to update `htop`, which is a rather small commandline utility.03:20
zandtmaybe I'm confused ?03:20
Fyodorovnazandt, what does suso fdisk -l in the terminal say pastebin iy.03:21
Fyodorovnait*03:21
escottsham, what filesystem are you running03:21
shambtrfs03:21
Fyodorovnasudo fdisk -l do zandt03:21
zandtFyodorovna, okay if I just PM it to you ? the DNS settings on this are messed up for some reason03:21
CarlFKhow do I remove all iptables rules?03:21
escottsham, bingo... btrfs was watch paint dry painful in 11.04 (seems better on my desktop with 11.10)03:21
zandtI will slow paste I promise :|03:22
MonkeyDustzandt  keep it in the channel, use pastebin03:22
shamreally?  Damn, I'm running the latest too.  Any reason its slow?  Any workaround?  I installed btrfs thinking it would improve speed.03:22
zandt"the dns settings on this are messed up"03:22
Fyodorovnazandt, I don't do pm's03:22
zandtis why I asked03:23
zandtotherwise I would gladly just pastebin it03:23
escottsham, did you check the benchmarks? it seems to be mostly in the syncs which are causing some long waits on writeback. you could try libeatmydata, but you pick an experimental FS you have to live with it03:24
shamDamn, I screwed up, but point of no return here.03:25
zandtwhat I mean is... the boot-repair USB, the dns settings aren't messed up (I believe) because I can't browse or apt-get anything03:25
zandtwhich is frustrating in and of itself, but mostly I'm just trying to fix grub03:25
zandtso I can go back to normal booting with ubuntu03:25
ActionParsnipzandt: can you ping 8.8.8.8?03:25
zandtpinging now, looks like it's fine03:26
LoshkiCarlFK: check out the man page for iptables. Look for something like iptables -F....03:26
zandt0 percent packet loss03:26
zandtlooks fine03:26
ActionParsnipzandt: ok then run:  echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf > /dev/null03:27
CarlFKLoshki: there is something like shorewall - trys to make simple things simple :)03:27
ActionParsnipzandt: you have a connection, just no DNS03:27
birdman__#who03:27
escottsham, eventually hopefully it gets to a point where it is usable across many systems, but that could take a while. see if the 12.04 kernel makes things better, but be prepared to reinstall because the 12.04 was forked from linus' tree about a month before some really nice btrfs updates that won't be available until 12.10 as a result (also you won't get the new btrfschk tools which are still ETA unknown)03:27
LoshkiCarlFK: sorry, never heard of shorewall...03:27
zandtActionParsnip, perfect03:28
* zandt high fives03:28
ActionParsniphehehe03:28
gridbagIs there a unity dev IRC channel?03:28
ActionParsnipgridbag: #unity    maybe03:30
zandthttp://pastebin.com/FRVRuXpc fdisk output Fyodorovna & anyone else who wants to take pity03:30
shamUgh, Thanks.  I read on some forum to -o nosync03:31
rinzlerhmmm. tips on ousting a glitching compitz for xfce, anyone?03:31
ActionParsniprinzler: install xfce4 package, log off and log in to xfce session03:32
rinzlerActionParsnip: that'll override compitz, i presume?03:33
ActionParsniprinzler: it's compiz03:33
rinzlerahh. thanks.03:34
ActionParsniprinzler: it will use xfwin4 as the WM instead of compiz and will use XFCE as the DE instead of Gnome03:34
rinzler:/03:34
rinzlerDE?03:34
ActionParsnipdesktop environment03:34
rinzlerRight. realized that right after i typed it. :/03:35
sacarlsonCarlFK: you want the simple way? sudo ufw disable ;    https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/firewall.html03:35
rinzleri'm on a roll tonight03:35
sacarlsonCarlFK: or maybe a script that just deletes all http://paste.ubuntu.com/904939/03:36
rinzlerwait, i've already got xfce and have been using it.. do I just need to install xfwin4 then?03:36
zandtbrb, gotta stretch!03:37
shamThanks escott!  Bye!03:37
ActionParsniprinzler: it should be installed but doesn't hurt to install it again if needed03:39
rinzlerActionParsnip: in that case, how do i replace compiz with xfwin4?03:40
ubuxubuinstalling ubuntu 11.10 on a hp laptop it had 11.10 on it before ran well. at beginning of installduring the intro getting this...UBI PARTMAN FAILED EXIT CODE 14103:41
rinzleror would it require a reinstall of xfce...?03:41
ubuxubusuqs03:43
zandtback03:43
curiousxciao a tutti03:43
rinzlerapt-get is unable to locate any packages. any ideas?03:44
ActionParsniprinzler: press ALT+F2 and run:  xfwin4 --replace03:45
ActionParsniprinzler: the name may be slightly off03:46
ActionParsnipbut you get the idea03:46
jiltdilPlease tell me command to convert png image to ascii format?03:47
curiousxjiltdil: jp2a03:48
jiltdilcuriousx,  but i think its for jpeg images03:48
curiousxlet me see it03:49
rinzlerActionParsnip: it was xfwm4, but I got it. Thanks!!03:49
curiousxye only jpg sry =(03:50
ActionParsniprinzler: sweet03:52
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ActionParsnipcuriousx: could use image magick to convert to jpg first03:53
curiousxye he could good idea =)03:54
ActionParsnip!info caca-utils03:54
ubottucaca-utils (source: libcaca): text mode graphics utilities. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.beta17-2ubuntu1 (oneiric), package size 57 kB, installed size 588 kB03:54
ActionParsnipIt opens most image formats such as JPEG, PNG, GIF etc. and renders them on the terminal using ASCII art.03:54
curiousx!info bb03:54
ubottubb (source: bb): ASCII-art demo based on AAlib. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3rc1-8ubuntu2 (oneiric), package size 1168 kB, installed size 1832 kB03:54
nooblikesgrhi all, I have a problem03:55
nooblikesgrMy default terminal seems to be Debian terminal emulator on preferred applications, Im using xfce on ubuntu11.1003:56
jiltdilActionParsnip,  we can simply  convert images to different formats by using a command "convert"03:56
nooblikesgrbut whenever i close the terminal, i get input/output error03:56
ActionParsnipjiltdil: yes.   convert input.png output.png03:56
curiousxye convert is part of imagemagick03:56
jiltdilActionParsnip,  but i  want to know is there any command to convert png image to ascii format as jp2a is for jpg images03:57
nooblikesgrwhich terminal do you guys use?03:57
Jon--After enabled compiz, any <Super> bind I set up with xbindkeys is not working. How can I fix this? Ubnutu 11.10. I don't appear to have anything bound to <Super> using ccsm advanced search. Using gnome-classic interface.03:57
curiousxnooblikesgr: me gnome-terminal03:57
chrislu5ticHEY there, im running ubuntu 11.10,03:58
chrislu5ticI have forgotten how to install flash for youtube videos.03:58
chrislu5ticits been a while.   please refresh my mind03:58
nooblikesgrI want to use gnome terminal too, but aparently I cant03:58
ActionParsnipjiltdil: i'd read the man page, I just used cacaview here, worked well :)03:58
curiousxchrislu5tic: 32 bits or 64 ?03:58
chrislu5tic32 bit.  AS far as I know,03:58
jiltdilActionParsnip,  ok i am trying03:59
curiousxchrislu5tic: paste: uname -a03:59
chrislu5tic 3.0.0-17-generic #30-Ubuntu SMP Thu Mar 8 17:34:21 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux04:00
tekkbuzzI been using Fedora for probably 10 years, and looking for a reason to switch. Can anyone tell me why04:00
collinjsimpsontekk04:00
curiousxchrislu5tic: wget http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplatformruntimes/flashplayer11-2/flashplayer11-2_p6_install_lin_32_022712.tar.gz04:00
tekkbuzzwhy Ubuntu is better?04:00
dr-willisuse what you want. try them all out04:00
collinjsimpsontekkbuzz, Games for Windows04:00
curiousxoh! sry wait a minute04:00
dr-willisyou decide.04:01
ActionParsniptekkbuzz: PPAs are cool04:01
ActionParsniptekkbuzz: try it is all I can suggest, see what you reckon04:01
curiousxchrislu5tic: http://paste.ubuntu.com/904963/04:01
sacarlsontekkbuzz: if you only run a browser then fedora is fine,  if you need support of many other software with quick install then maybe ubuntu is for you04:01
pup-0854tekkbuzz, ubuntu tv04:01
chrislu5ticThank you kindly sir04:01
dr-willisbetter or worse depends on what you do with the is04:02
dr-willisos04:02
curiousxnp04:02
almoxarifetekkbuzz: better? an abacus ? backlit of course04:02
pup-0854I really like Gnome 3 on fedo 1204:03
jiltdilActionParsnip,   img2txt is also working :)04:03
curiousxChuguniy: tell me when its downloaded04:03
ActionParsnipjiltdil: nice :D04:03
tekkbuzzI run a bit of everything, 2 screens -- media, tv, ect. , not really gaming though.04:03
tekkbuzzI hate upgrading fedora, always have to fix stuff.04:04
ActionParsniptekkbuzz: use it on a USB, see what you think, you can always install later (using the same USB)04:04
sacarlsontekkbuzz: I'm like you if it's not broke don't fix it04:04
tekkbuzzthanks ActionParsnip, I think I'll do that.04:04
almoxarifetekkbuzz: so run a hybrid, a gnoku works for me04:05
pup-0854I like the fedora shell04:05
tekkbuzzsacarlson: exactly04:05
tekkbuzzI got a tv/radio card can't get the radio to work.04:05
almoxarifedoes linus supply the kernel for fedora?04:05
sacarlsontekkbuzz: but when I see some app I want that I can no longer install then it's time to fix with backports or if that fails it's time to upgrade04:05
Jon--After enabled compiz, any <Super> bind I set up with xbindkeys is not working. How can I fix this? Ubnutu 11.10. I don't appear to have anything bound to <Super> using ccsm advanced search. Using gnome-classic interface.04:06
ActionParsnipalmoxarife: its the same code, just different build options04:06
almoxarifeActionParsnip: exactly my point04:06
tekkbuzzsacarlson: I usually don't upgrade until I have to, about every 4 major upgrades.04:07
dr-willisthere was a point?04:07
almoxarifedr-willis: yes, goes back to 'what is better??' being a nonsense question04:07
tekkbuzzYes, Why is Ubuntu better?04:08
dr-willisdepends on your needs tekkbuzz04:09
tekkbuzzIs upgrading painless?04:09
almoxarifetekkbuzz: because there is money driving the pony show, money makes things happen04:09
ActionParsniptekkbuzz: do you mean between releases or just normal upgrades?04:09
dr-willisno one in here claimed its better04:09
tekkbuzzbetween release04:09
dr-willisi always do clean installs.04:10
ActionParsniptekkbuzz: i couldn't comment there, I always clean install ALL linux distros when a new release is out rather than upgrade04:10
tekkbuzzdr-willis: I thought if I came here, someone could convince me.04:10
bsidhipotekkbuzz: generally painless04:10
ActionParsniptekkbuzz: some people report success04:10
dr-willistekkbuzz:  this is support. not a marketing channel. g04:11
pup-0854I heard once " all operating systems suck "04:11
tekkbuzzIt usually hurts so bad, to do clean upgrades, I lose alot and usually takes 2-3 weeks to complete.04:11
ActionParsnippup-0854: they do, check the song by 3 dead trolls in a baggie ;)04:11
dr-willistry the options out. use what you want.04:11
tekkbuzzpup-0854: LOL04:12
bsidhipotekkbuzz: eh?  2-3 weeks?04:12
rinzlercan anyone recommend a good ftp server software?04:12
ActionParsniprinzler: openssh-server   gives an SFTP server04:12
rinzleroh. cool :P04:12
dr-willisclean install here  takes me about 2hrs perhaps...04:12
rinzlernevermind then...04:12
sacarlsonrinzler: i just use the ssh-server as my sftp04:12
dr-willisi dont recall loseong anything ;)04:13
tekkbuzzall the little config file to configure take forever, apache, ssh, ect., ect.04:13
tracekillIs 12.04 as game changing as I've been hearing?04:13
tekkbuzzmysql, php04:13
ActionParsniptekkbuzz: keep a separate partition for /home and it should help04:13
almoxarifenothing more entertaining than a 'linux snob', they re-inforce my need for ever more gui's to take the pain out of a terminal04:13
dr-willisyou should be keeping backups of custom config files in the frist place04:14
ActionParsniptekkbuzz: if its for a web server then have a separate partition for /var  and so on, you only need to upgrade the OS so the user data will not need touching04:14
bsidhipotekkbuzz: what could you possibly do to configure SSH to such a degree?  apache?  you can use separate config file for that ... that's a good practice anyway, so you can upgrade the OS and restore just the files you customize04:15
ActionParsniptekkbuzz: if you need to reinstall, you can tell the installer to use the partition but NOT format it and it will be available on the first reboot04:15
almoxarifeActionParsnip: what percentage of the drive would you recommend for a /home partition?04:15
tekkbuzzActionParsnip: problem is every upgrade has newer config files that have to be merged together or lose funtionallity.04:15
dr-willisalmoxarife: as big as possible04:15
ActionParsnipalmoxarife: depends on use04:15
darkfibermy session froze last night, so i shutdown and everything seemed fine, now when i try to boot i can login but cant get the desktop, im in recovery console now, how do i fix this?04:15
bsidhipotekkbuzz: if you configure it (apache, for example) right, then it's more or less one or two lines in the main config file that #include another file (which you keep from version to version)04:16
ActionParsniptekkbuzz: I see, could cause issues. I see why you are concerned now04:16
ActionParsnipalmoxarife: my systems are for web browsing and chat, so my / partition is only 10Gb, the rest is give to /home after I set another partition for swap04:16
ActionParsnipalmoxarife: http://paste.ubuntu.com/904978/04:17
tracekillAttempting to upgrade to 12.04... it's estimating over a day to complete the installation (everything's already downloaded) in-place upgrade from 11.10. Is this reasonable or is something messed up?04:18
dr-willisi tend to use 20gb for / rest for home04:19
caf4926almoxarife: but use your brain... think about how big your HD is. If you have a 1 TB HD and set 2GB swap and 20GB / it wouldn't make sense to use all the rest for /home. Many users have side by side multiple installs..04:19
ActionParsnipdr-willis: I'm on about 3Gb so 10Gb is groovy here :)04:19
dr-willisi have fillef up a 10gb /. well it wad /tmp that filled up....04:20
ActionParsnipalmoxarife: I also put web cache into tempfs, makes it a little faster as well as saves using the HDD04:20
almoxarifedr-willis: 20gb? really? I don't know why it seems like a small amount,04:20
ActionParsnipalmoxarife: shared libs :)04:20
dr-willishd suzes are big.. make it bigger if ya want.04:21
almoxarifeActionParsnip: web cache in tempfs??? I'll admit it, over my head04:21
dr-willisremastering some dvds filled up /tmp for me once04:22
ActionParsnipalmoxarife: in a ram drive04:22
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ubuxubucant install unubtu04:22
almoxarifeActionParsnip: ok, thnks04:22
ubuxubunever thought idsee the dat04:22
ubuxubuday04:22
dr-willisubuxubu:  more details.... will help04:22
IronSightubottu, did you try the alternate (ncurses) installer?04:23
ubottuIronSight: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)04:23
caf4926ubuxubu: what version04:23
IronSighterm, ubuxubu ^^04:23
ubuxubu<ubuxubu> installing ubuntu 11.10 on a hp laptop it had 11.10 on it before ran well. at beginning of installduring the intro getting this...UBI PARTMAN FAILED EXIT CODE 14104:23
ubuxubu*04:23
ubuxubu11.1004:23
IronSightpartition manager failed?04:23
ubuxubuUBI PARTMAN FAILED EXIT CODE 14104:23
ubuxubu<ubuxubu> *04:23
ubuxubuthat what it says04:24
caf4926ubuxubu: you can boot to a live session?04:24
ubuxubuit had 11.10 on there before and ran well04:24
ubuxubuyes live works04:24
caf4926ubuxubu: post result of04:24
dr-willistry partioning by hand. with gparted.04:24
ubuxububut it wont instal l frm live either same error04:24
caf4926ubuxubu: sudo fdisk -l04:24
ubuxubuif i do gparted i think it will blow away vista04:25
caf4926ubuxubu: manual partitioning is way better04:25
dr-willisnot if yiu do it right...04:25
ubuxubuhow can i recalin the 20 g partiton i made for it and the 1 g swap?04:25
ubuxubui did manually part it with wondows04:26
ubuxubushould in format the parts i made too04:26
caf4926ubuxubu: I'd say we need to see fdisk04:26
ubuxubumaybe if i format the partitions??04:26
dr-willisubuxubu:  use linux tools to make linux partitions04:26
dr-willisand format them peoperly04:26
ubuxubuits like this c drive is 120g vista f was built for ubuntu g was built for swap h is recovery04:27
ubuxubureal simple04:27
ubuxubuit had buntu on it before in those same parts04:27
pup-0854Lawl @ bot04:27
dr-williswindows made them ntfs or vfat i imagime. not wgat you want04:27
ubuxubui know but buntu would of changed that04:27
dr-willisubuxubu: windows made them ntfs.. is my guess04:27
caf4926ubuxubu: c, f, g is all a load of bollocks04:27
IronSightubuxubu, looks like... it was reported to the bug list... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/52784804:27
ubottuLaunchpad bug 527848 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "[Lucid] ubi-partman failed with exit code 141 during manual partitioning" [Undecided,Fix released]04:28
ubuxubuwhen u check off ext404:28
ubuxububut it cant get that far04:28
ubuxubuyes its a bug i knkw04:28
ubuxububut how do i fix it04:28
ubuxubuor at least get my space back04:28
dr-willisuse gparted.. reformat them to ext404:28
ubuxubureformat what04:28
darkfibermy network connections froze last night, so i shutdown and everything seemed fine, now when i try to boot i can login but cant get the desktop, im in recovery console now, how do i fix this?04:28
bsidhipoubuxubu: in windows disk manager, get rid of your linux partitions (drive f:, g:, and h:), leaving one big area of empty unallocated space.  boot into live cd.  do the install.  sit back and relax.04:28
dr-willisthe partitions yiu want to use04:29
pup-0854ubuxubu,  wow still on that bug good job.04:29
ubuxubuok ill brb04:29
thunder1212i have a dell laptop, and it does not shutdown .. it gets stuck when i send the shutdown signal and if i restart it is quiet slow and does that with a distinct "tuckK" sound04:29
ubuxubui go into doze and make the partition blank04:29
dr-williseasier to use gparted from the cd.....04:30
thunder1212it is a new laptop only 4 mnths old. vostro 1450 core i3 2gb ram04:30
bsidhipothunder: boot into ubuntu if you can.  run "disk utility", see the SMART information.  check if there's any reallocated sector or unreadable sector (signs the drive is dying / dead)04:30
cc11rocksUbuntu 12.04 Beta 2 will be out in approx. 21.5 hours?04:32
darkfibernoones going to answer?04:33
bsidhipodarkfiber: why not read .xsession-errors ?04:33
cc11rocksGuess not...04:33
cc11rocksIf anyone is going to answer my question (Ubuntu 12.04 Beta 2 will be out in approx. 21.5 hours?), wait until I come back in 10 min. please. I will message when I return04:35
dr-willisi imagine beta 2will be out when its ready.. not some exact time04:41
ubuxubuok its gonna work now04:42
ubuxubuwhew04:42
MneumonicI am anxious for beta 2, beta 1 was nearly perfect on my machine04:42
ubuxubuif antone else gets that message i know wut 2 do now04:43
ubuxubufor some reason i had to delete the swap...using vista part mgr then the it wasabsorbed automaticallt into the original 20g i set aside for buntu leaving it as just a healthy raw part04:44
bsidhiposo who here uses gnome-shell instead of unity?04:44
* Karmaon raises hand04:45
triscuitme04:45
tracekillI do currently but supposedly they fixed some of the erratic behavior in 12.0404:45
MneumonicGnome shell is alright but Unity is growing on me.  12.04 Unity is one of the best DE's around04:45
tracekillWhich is going to take.... 8 hours to install!04:45
tracekillYAY04:45
triscuitI don't like docks04:45
tracekillMneumonic, did you do an in-place upgrade form 11.10?04:45
triscuitthat's really the only thing, gnome seems to be smoother in 12.04 to04:45
bsidhipomneumonic: the final straw for me (unity) was the spastic dock on the left04:46
dr-willisMneumonic: if you are upgrafeing regullary then you basivally allready have beta 204:46
MneumonicThe only problem with Unity for me in 11.10 is that sometimes icons in the dock will duplicate themselves04:46
MneumonicThat seems fixed in 12.0404:46
triscuitthere' were bately any updates today04:47
triscuitbarely04:47
arinovhi04:47
dr-willisfewer updates as the release progresses04:48
triscuityeah04:48
cc11rocksThank you dr-willis04:48
bsidhiporandom note: if you use ice cream sandwich's "roboto" font on ubuntu, you have to tell fontconfig to remap the weight "black" to "roboto black" otherwise your normal font look too heavy04:48
newblikegraDoes anyone here use Xfce4 terminal?04:48
arinovwhen the next LTS will be released?04:48
dr-willis!lts04:48
ubottuLTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Lucid (Lucid Lynx 10.04)04:48
gridbagafter you "Remove from Launcher", how do you add it back?  When I drag/drop the .desktop file, it doesn't take.04:48
cc11rocksApril 26, 2012 arinov04:49
dr-willis12.04 is a lts i thought04:49
Mneumonicopen a program, right click the icon in the laucnher, select "keep in launcher"\04:49
cc11rocks12.04 IS an lts04:49
zykotick9dr-willis: it is04:49
kevdognewblikegra: yes04:49
XabsterThis isn't a pure ubuntu question, but does anyone know how to make xchat store your "ignore join/part" of the channels that you select it for?04:49
arinovcc11rocks: one month... soon04:49
cc11rockshere, here arinov04:50
dr-willisXabster:  it rembers them here. by default04:50
Xabsterdr-willis, mine doens't04:50
newblikegraI use IRSSI I wouldn't know04:50
cc11rocksI'm a Linux Mint user myself (LM 12 running right now), but I'm willing to give Ubuntu 12.04 a try until LM 13 comes out04:50
kevdogI'm wondering what the best way to upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04 -- gosh darn I hate upgrading04:50
dr-willisXabster:  its rembered them here for ages..04:50
cc11rockskevdog : reninstall is recommended - from scratch04:50
bsidhipokevdog: distupgrade?04:51
dr-williskevdog:  do a clean install then04:51
arinovit will be my third autoupgrade04:51
cc11rocksThat way you can't have any issues...I've built scripts to04:51
dr-willisi rarely upgrade.04:51
newblikegraDo you guys really use Unity desktop?04:51
arinovfrom 10.10 without problems04:51
bsidhiponewblikegra: nah, gnome-shell here04:51
dr-willisnewblikegra:  err.. yes.04:51
cc11rocksreconfigure once I do a reinstall04:51
kevdogI hate clean upgrades -- I got a separate home partition -- but all the customization within /etc and the udev scripts --- SUCKS04:51
newblikegraHow long did it take to get used to it?04:51
arinovnewblikegra: i use04:51
Xabsterdr-willis, do you think I got some sort of permission problem?04:51
dr-willisclean upgrade? ....04:51
cc11rocksCinnamon here for me...04:51
arinovsince it stand in default installation04:52
voidxI think I just made a stupid mistake running this command in home directory "sed 's/\([a-z]*\) \([a-z]*\)/\2 \1/'"04:52
newblikegraI hadn't used Ubuntu since testing 10.04, when I installed 11.10 I raged in 5 minutes and instal installed Xfce04:52
dr-willisXabster:  possiblw. delete the xchat configs and let it remake them04:52
voidxAnybody please tell me what its gonna do04:52
bsidhipovoidx: nothing since there's no redirection04:52
cc11rocks10.10 << Good release. 11.04 << Bad release. 12.04 << Should be good release :)04:52
voidxbsidhipo: but it hung up for a while before I killed it04:53
kevdogwhere is 11.10 in that schema?04:53
dr-willisso.. you used unity for a whole 5 min... then gave up..04:53
bsidhipovoidx: it "hung" because it was reading stdin :-)04:53
newblikegraIMO the default installation should have at least 2 desktop managers to choose from04:53
cc11rocksI left it out because I didn't do much testing for 11.10...04:53
Xabsterdr-willis, filename hint?04:53
cc11rocksSo I'm not gonna comment...04:53
dr-willisXabster:  look for a .xchat dir perhaps04:53
kevdogI wanted to use unity, but I couldn't see my desktop because the unity bar was taking up the entire screen04:53
newblikegrasame, and that's just the start of problems04:54
voidxbsidhipo: oh ok. thank you much. I'm trying to learn this tool reading the official documentation, but its kinda unclear04:54
cc11rocksI'm going to try to go to my first "installfest" to try to help newbies and talk and such this weekend...04:54
newblikegraWhat I can't really understand is the logic behind the designers and what exactly were they thinking.04:54
kevdogcc11rocks: good for you, exciting04:54
Xabsterdr-willis, wxabster@michael-desktop:~$ whereis xchat04:54
Xabsterxchat: /usr/bin/xchat /usr/lib/xchat /usr/include/xchat /usr/share/man/man1/xchat.1.gz04:54
cc11rocksMy loco team is meeting 10 miles from my house :) ...So I'ma check it out04:54
bsidhipovoidx: re-run that command again, enter "foo bar" (no quotes) press enter.  you should see the output "bar foo"04:54
dr-willisunity dev team i think detail their logic in the forums04:55
kevdogcc11rocks: the loco team near me is dead04:55
newblikegraIt must be a very good example of what not to read for desginers04:55
cc11rockskevdog : Start a new one :)04:55
dr-willisXabster:  .xchat    not xchat. a dir i  your home i imagine.04:55
voidxbsidhipo: cool, thx :)04:55
kevdogcc11rocks: How?  How to get the word out?04:55
newblikegraI mean seriously, there are 10 customizations options for the entire OS04:55
cc11rocksloco.ubuntu.com04:56
dr-willisnewblikegra:  so?04:56
cc11rocksMailing lists and such04:56
newblikegrawhat do you mean so?04:56
bsidhiponewblikegra: what are you going on about? :-)04:56
newblikegranot having cuztomization options doesn't bother you?04:56
almoxarifethe ease of configuration in plasma-desktop with the click and shoot ease of cairo-dock makes for a happy desktop04:56
kevdogcc11rocks: I'll have to check that out!  The irc channel for the loco was dead04:57
dr-willisnewblikegra:  given how mych time i see spent wasted on fixing peoples screwed up customizations... no it does not bother me04:57
cc11rocksI see...The IRC loco is dead...but they said that it usually is with the sign up email04:57
cc11rocksCertain times of the day for sceduling, depending on the loco team04:57
newblikegrait botehrs me because I like breaking and fixing things04:57
kevdogcc11rocks: report back how it goes04:58
newblikegraI'd be on win if I didnt04:58
bsidhiponewblikegra: run gentoo then ... tweaks galore04:58
dr-willis'have good default settings' is more imporntant04:58
cc11rocksAnd they scedule events and stuff on the loco site and stuff...on the personalized one (for your area)04:58
cc11rocksWill do kevdog04:58
newblikegraeveryone says that I should check it out04:58
newblikegraCan I triple boot without messing the awesome simple bootloader from Ubuntu through Wubi?04:59
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kevdoggentoo --- what a waste of time --- customize is all you do, and compile, and wait, and break thing, and fix things, then twea04:59
bsidhipokevdog: it has its uses04:59
dr-willisnewblikegra:  i say avoid wubi if possible04:59
newblikegraYes yes that's exactly what I want to do04:59
kevdogwubi?04:59
bsidhipokevdog: my little tower of pandaboards run gentoo, for example04:59
newblikegraI've already used Wubi for my OS04:59
cc11rocksGRUB can/should be able to handle multiple OS's (even 3)04:59
almoxarifenewblikegra: I got one for you, 12.04 will include dnsmasq as the default dns-cache, prior configuration of dnsmasq by the user is now ignored, how does one get around it?04:59
kevdogbsidhipo: why not something else?05:00
dr-williswubi is problematic.05:00
bsidhipokevdog: it's small and to the point05:00
newblikegraI really don't understand any of that almozarife05:00
bsidhipokevdog: besides i can customize and debug, for example, framebuffer driver easily05:00
newblikegraWubi was the default way to install on ubuntu.com to dual boot with existing OS05:00
almoxarifenewblikegra: but you use irrsi I thought?05:00
newblikegrayes just started today05:01
kevdogbsidhipo: Id have no idea how to customize a framebuffer driver even if I wanted to05:01
newblikegraBut I'm new, trying to learn things05:01
newblikegrabesides IRSSI is awfully easy to use05:01
newblikegraon my Xfce4 terminal with no borders no menubar transparent background05:01
newblikegrafeelsgoodman05:01
almoxarifenewblikegra: I bet it is, right after you learn all the key codes, meanwhile I will continue to use 'pidgin' , pidgin kicks the llamas a.......05:02
newblikegraAre there many key codes for IRSSI?05:03
bsidhiponewblikegra: i wouldn't worry about customization just yet .. figure out how the whole OS works.  linux has piled on many technologies over the years and it's now got a LOT of stuff running just to make a working desktop environment05:03
kevdognewblikegra: Cant you just modify the profile05:03
bsidhiponewblikegra: i'd learn about those things first05:03
newblikegrabsidhipo for example?05:03
dr-willisi perfer weechat to irssi these days05:03
newblikegraive started a book on bash scripting but don't know what else to do05:03
newblikegraweechat is awesome!05:03
CheeseHi I need help05:04
bsidhiponewblikegra: easiest, "network manager" ... how does it really work?  wifi?  wpa-psk?  supplicant?05:04
newblikegraweechat on IE on Win7 GG05:04
newblikegrahmm I'm going to search about these05:04
bsidhiponewblikegra: after networking, look into sound arbitration (or lack of) among users, then things like automounter, etc.05:04
newblikegraI looked into SSH etc earlier its itneresting05:04
CheeseI use wubi resize, but then I accidently shut my laptop off05:04
kevdognewblikegra: what are you trying to learn about other than everything05:04
newblikegraeverything else :)05:04
bsidhiponewblikegra: then udev, sysfs, procfs, etc.  those are the tweaks you want05:04
dr-willisweechat on ie? must be a different weechat05:05
arinovcc11rocks: last good was 7.04 kubuntu05:05
newblikegraty for the suggestions I'll look into whatever I can remember05:05
Xabsternewblikegra, you started a book...?05:05
bsidhiponewblikegra: desktop environment tweaks are skin deep.  sysfs and procfs tweaks are OS-wide :-)05:05
newblikegrabut I'm still really new to Linux etc05:05
dr-willis!info weechat05:05
ubottuweechat (source: weechat): Fast, light and extensible chat client. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.5-1 (oneiric), package size 1 kB, installed size 36 kB05:05
kevdognewblikegra: I'd look at firewalls and security first -- included in that would be ssh, remote desktops, mixmaster05:05
sidveeI have a hp tablet. Can someone please suggest be any good package for using my touchscreen system for free-writing using digitzer?05:05
newblikegraI started "reading" a book I should say05:05
CheeseNeed help!05:05
XabsterAh, that makes a whole lot more sense05:06
bsidhiposidvee: i see your question but i have no idea.  just saying, so you won't feel ignored05:06
kevdogI started a book once,  never got past writing the first word...05:06
newblikegraalso Im trying to learn Vim editor but seems awfully hard to get used to05:06
newblikegraThe first word must be your name?05:07
sidveebsidhipo: That so nice of you! I have felt ignored lots of time, glad not today. :)05:07
kevdognewblikegra: yes you should learn how to work exclusively from the command line with as little gui as possible05:07
bsidhiponewblikegra: quit now while you haven't been tainted by vim.  if you get used to vim keymapping, you'd be demanding it everywhere.  only downhill from there.05:07
dr-willisvim. its a way of life.....05:08
newblikegraits np I can just carry the portable Vim on my flash05:08
Xabsterkevdog, is that sarcastic?05:08
kevdogcan someone explain to me how to copy and paste in vim?05:08
dr-willis!info vigor05:08
ubottuvigor (source: vigor): nvi with the evil paperclip. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.016-15 (oneiric), package size 266 kB, installed size 680 kB05:08
kevdogXabster: no05:08
newblikegrabut I think it'll take time, and I don't know if I;ll even continue05:08
Xabsterkevdog, do you know what year it is?05:08
newblikegrasince I don't see that really big of advantage over other text editors like Notepad++05:08
bsidhipodr-willis: i had a vanity plate in NC once (never did get it, lost in mail) ->   ESC:Q!05:08
newblikegraalso, Emacs seems MUCH harder than Vim05:08
sidveeHow do i open same file (say a video) with different media player using the command line.05:08
Xabstersidvee, program file05:09
bsidhipodr-willis: i was mad it got lost ... cuz they wouldn't issue me a new one, darn it.  was PERFECT plate ...05:09
dr-willissidvee:  nameofplayer filename05:09
kevdogXabster: when you remote into your server from afar -- b/c I have no T1 dedicated line -- gui tools are still really slow05:09
newblikegrasidvee type <program to open with> <name of file> on the Terminal>05:09
Xabsterkevdog, sure, you're a 2000 users living in 2012 - that's what I understand05:09
XabsterI don't even know what T105:10
sidveeXabster: dr-willis newblikegra Damn, i feel so stupid after listening to the answer.05:10
XabsterI got 30/mbit05:10
Xabster30/30mbitØ05:10
Xabster*05:10
bsidhipokevdog: use low-bandwidth X then?  nomachine's maybe?05:10
Xabstergod damnit!05:10
dr-willisi ssh from my android phone. ;)05:10
kevdogXabster: rich guy.  Try remote into your server and try to do anything really graphics intensive -- ok gedit doesn't really slow it down with tunneling X over ssh, but god forbid if you had to do anything else05:11
dr-willisremote desktop never work well for me05:11
bsidhipoxabster: T1 = 1.544 megabits / sec05:11
sidveeAny good handwriting recognition s/w for ubuntu? #tablet05:11
dr-willisbbl05:11
kevdogI think I got like 5 meg up05:11
Xabsterkevdog, do you call 169 DKK for internet rick?05:11
newblikegraHuman eyes05:11
XabsterrichØ05:12
Xabsterrich*05:12
zeroblockhello all ! Im new here05:12
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newblikegraHiHI05:12
kevdoghomey say what05:12
kaukassusHey05:12
sidveeAny good handwriting recognition s/w for ubuntu? #tablet05:12
bsidhipokevdog: it's not bandwidth that kills you.  it's the latency.05:12
zeroblockI dont know how to close irssi's tab about nickserv identify page, how to do it05:12
newblikegrasidvee I hate when I have to say this but this might not be the right place,05:12
kevdogok... end result its still unusable in most cases05:12
newblikegraI'd google first unless you want opinions on the best one, which I don't think anyone here has since few people use tablets05:13
bsidhipokevdog: no.  you just have to use solutions like, ok, Exceed onDemand (commercial)05:13
Xabsterkevdog, your terms of use are not relevant to me05:13
sidveenewblikegra: Oh is it? I know no other place. I always seek help here. :-(05:13
XabsterI'm sorry you only have 1.5mbit05:13
bsidhipokevdog: with EOD, we can work interactive in San Jose (CA) from, for example, Austin (TX) without noticeable delays05:13
newblikegrazeroblock do you really need to close it? though I don't know how to do it either05:13
newblikegrasidvee try google.com for a start05:14
* syn-ack installs a FreeBSD system on VMware05:14
newblikegraalso I'm having a feeling you're a bad troll since you're on IRC05:14
kevdogCan't really afford the exceed, so I just rely on terminal apps, and that cuts the mustard for me05:14
kukuruzahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgXJbJeRxHo give me opinion about this!05:14
bsidhipokevdog: there are free solutions too (like nomachine's NX i told you about)05:14
sidveequit()05:15
Xabsterkukuruza, >attention-seeking label>05:15
Xabster<05:15
kevdogbsidhipo: no machine is worse than just tunneling x -- plus it crashes a lot with me05:15
newblikegrazeroblock did you try wc?05:15
zeroblocknewblikegra: cause I have join 4 channel at a time , I have to switch it like ALT+2,3,5,605:15
Xabstergod damnit ! i meant <05:15
zeroblockI want to make it like ALT+234505:16
newblikegrazeroblock you can also alt right/left arrow which is what I use05:16
newblikegradid you try /wc?05:16
bsidhipokevdog: sometimes you have to go graphical.  for example, what about ilo / drac from half a continent away?  you surely don't suggest getting on a plane to push a button :-)05:16
curiousxgnome 3.4 will comes with boxes to virtualizate OS and connect to remote OSs05:16
zeroblocknewblikegra: /wc is work for me , thanks for teaching me05:16
zeroblock:)05:16
Myrthhi, how do i add a kernel module to initramfs ?05:16
newblikegranpnp :)05:16
newblikegraAlso I think Alt + arrow keys is easier than Alt + number05:17
syn-ackmyrth You have to rebuild the initial ram disk05:17
kevdogbsidhipo: never used those programs, so I really wouldn't know05:17
Myrthis there a tutorial? btw i'm using livecd05:17
Myrthi want to boot from ssd, which requires that driver05:18
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Xabsterand kevdog, i didn't mean to be demeaning - i just don't have that sort of problems05:18
Xabsteror needs, rather05:18
syn-ackmyrth What are you trying to do that that the ram disk doesn't have the module you need?05:18
newblikegraMyrth maybe this'll help, though I know nothing about it05:18
newblikegrahttp://askubuntu.com/questions/19376/installing-ubuntu-on-a-ssd05:18
bsidhipokevdog: in case you're interested, ilo and drac are dell (and hp, in that order)'s implementation of video and keyboard/mouse input/output over the network, so that you can manage every aspect of a machine over a network where the machine might not be in the same city you're in05:19
kevdogXabster: I can't even get rsync to work reliably on my LAN with large data sets (>60gb)05:19
Myrthsyn-ack: i have OCZ PCIe SSD which requires insmod ocz10xx.ko05:19
Myrthi'm able to access the drive from livecd after insmod05:19
syn-ackare you able to modprobe it?05:19
bsidhipokevdog: uh i got the order reversed05:19
Myrthbut on boot from SSD it's stuck in (initramfs)05:19
syn-ackah05:20
kevdogbsidhipo: Sounds like a dream...if it works05:20
Smith_hi2all05:20
syn-ackMyrth, Look up the kernel compilation HOW TO in the Ubuntu forums. That'll help you get thru it05:20
zeroblockhihi05:20
Myrthnewblikegra, syn-ack: thanks05:21
Xabsterkevdog, :D if you pay for your own food you can have my couch and use my internet05:21
Jordan_Usyn-ack: Myrth: You don't need (or want) to compile a kernel to solve this problem. All of the modules needed are already built for Ubuntu's kernel.05:21
kevdogXabster: what a guy!  can you throw in a tutorial as well?05:22
Jordan_UMyrth: First you'll need to mount your Ubuntu partition, do you know how to do that?05:22
Xabstertutorial on my apartment?05:22
syn-ackJordan_U, read what he said. He'll need to build the Ram disk to include the module so, yeah, he needs it05:22
bsidhipomyrth: install ubuntu.  edit /etc/modules, build initramfs and reboot.  live happily ever after.05:22
syn-ackit has nothing to do with the mount, jordan.05:22
Xabsterkevdog, frontdoor open, couch is front-front-left05:22
syn-ackNO05:22
MyrthJordan_U, yes. i mount it, and then i chroot and mount --bind dev and sys, to run grub-mkconfig05:22
syn-ackhe needs to rebuild the ramdisk05:22
bsidhipomyrth: edit /etc/modules; update-initramfs -c -k all, reboot05:22
Jordan_Usyn-ack: Building an initramfs is not in any way related to compiling a kernel.05:23
syn-ackOh jesus christ.05:23
syn-ackYES IT IS05:23
syn-ackugh, I can't handle this.05:23
kevdogXabster: that's not exactly what I had in mind, but speaking of getting a "remote" "imaginary" view of your apartment -- Its becoming much clearer to me now05:23
TheSargeI am trying to enable other resolutions, but I see no Xorg.conf in /etc/X11/   ?05:23
kevdogTheSarge: You have to create one05:23
Myrthbsidhipo, that sounds good, thanks05:24
Xabsterkevdog, 107m2 in 6 rooms (2 of which are bathroom and kitchen) - how's that for remote view?05:24
TheSargekevdog: How? I never had to before.. dpkg-reconfigure doesnt do it05:24
bsidhiposyn-ack: well hopefully his SSD has enough bios hooks to get the initial bootloader going.  once the initial bootloader got going it should load the ramdisk (which now has the module he needs).  once that module is inserted into the kernel, the kernel should continue to boot fine without bios' further help05:24
kevdogTheSarge: Yep -- new versions of ubuntu -- this doesn't work anymore05:24
bsidhiposyn-ack: makes sense?05:24
TheSargeI just want to enable 1024x76805:25
TheSargekevdog: So is there a script I can run or something?05:25
Jordan_UMyrth: Then chroot in bind mounting /dev/ /sys *and* /proc/. Then add "ocz10xx" to the end of /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and run "update-initramfs -c -k all" (within the chroot).05:25
kevdogXabster: 107?  That's pretty large05:25
Jordan_Ubsidhipo: syn-ack left.05:25
bsidhipojordan: what a passionate dude ...05:26
zeroblockhow to switch my input to scim?05:26
Xabsterkevdog, for the price it certainly is - and i'm appreciating it =(05:26
Xabster=)*05:26
kevdogTheSarge: Nope -- You either have to find a base on the internet or use one of your old xorg files05:26
bsidhipojordan: but yeah, you're on the right track with the chroot thing :-)  keep going05:26
research4oscarcan anyone provide some good reference material on setting up a developer user group for web development on ubuntu?05:26
TheSargeolution?05:26
TheSargekevdog: You are kidding me, I have to do all of that to enable a resolution?05:27
sacarlsonresearch4oscar: how about github.com ?05:27
TheSargeThat can't be right05:27
bsidhipothesarge: xorg now uses automatic on the fly configuration.  no need for xorg.conf.05:27
TheSargeIf so Ubuntu is going downhill, making things more difficult on the end user?05:27
MyrthJordan_U: should i copy the module file somewhere on SSD?05:27
research4oscargithub.com? I will check it out.05:28
TheSargebsidhipo: So.. how do I enable other resolutions?05:28
kevdogTheSarge: That's what I had to do, that was the only thing that worked for me since my resolution wasn't be adjusted correctly05:28
MyrthJordan_U: or update-initramfs will take care of it05:28
Jordan_UMyrth: No. You shouldn't need to do anything beyond what I have said.05:28
Myrthok05:28
bsidhipothesarge: once you log in to your DE, you can pick other resolutions.  or, you can use "xrandr" if your card supports randr extension.05:28
sacarlsonresearch4oscar: if you don't want to use github.com dirrect I guess you could setup a git host of your own on ubuntu05:28
bsidhipothesarge: is there something wrong with the default resolution that Xorg picks for you?05:29
TheSargebsidhipo: The only resolution it has listed is 800x600 thats why I said enable more resolutions...05:29
TheSargebsidhipo: Yes, it is 800x600!05:29
bsidhipothesarge: read /var/log/X.0.log and see why it disgards the other resolutions05:29
TheSargeOmg..05:29
Myrthok rebooting05:29
research4oscarsacarlson:I see what it is. I wil be looking at version control also. but what i meant was more of setting up my groups and users on my ubuntu installation.05:29
TheSargeI used to be able to just edit a conf and uncomment the resolutions05:29
TheSargeWHy are they making this distro so much worse?05:30
Myrthbtw do i have to sync && sync before reboot?05:30
bsidhipothesarge: your whininess is several years too late.  it's been this way for many years now.05:30
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Jordan_UMyrth: No.05:30
curiousxTheSarge: what graphic card do you have?05:30
TheSargeJust shows where this distro is going05:30
Jordan_U!ot | TheSarge05:30
ubottuTheSarge: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!05:30
bsidhipothesarge: it's not the distro.  it's Xorg05:30
TheSargecuriousx: I don't its a server, I am using VNC05:30
curiousxok05:31
TheSargebsidhipo: The distro chose to take the new version..05:31
sacarlsonresearch4oscar: you just setup users and groups in git  here are some web interfaces http://stackoverflow.com/questions/438163/whats-the-best-web-interface-for-git-repositories05:31
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Jordan_UTheSarge: This channel is for support questions, not for unproductive ranting. Please stay on topic.05:31
TheSargeI am on topic05:31
Myrthoh no.. it's (initramfs) again...05:31
TheSargeThere is no way to easily enable other resolutions?05:32
sacarlsonresearch4oscar: development without version control?05:32
curiousxso you wanna edit the TTY's resolution ?05:32
TheSargeI have to build an Xorg.conf from scratch?05:32
Myrthin the boot console it says /dev/disk/by-uuid/e46..... does not exist. dropping to a shell!05:32
TheSargecuriousx: No.. I want to edit the Xservers resolution05:32
Myrthjordan_u: i've re-run grub-mkconfig05:32
Jordan_UTheSarge: What graphics card do you have? Missing resoltuions usually means that you don't have a proper driver for your card.05:32
TheSargeI told you I am running an Xserver and using VNC05:32
sacarlsonresearch4oscar: I guess that would work as long as each user was working on only his own apps05:33
curiousxsry05:33
TheSargeJordan_U: I already said it is a server, I have no graphics card.. I am using vnc to connect to ity05:33
Myrthjordan_u: and re-enabled uuids05:33
TheSargeit05:33
Jordan_UMyrth: Can you mount your Ubuntu partition and pastebin the current contents of /etc/initramfs-tools/modules ?05:33
Jordan_UTheSarge: Sorry, missed that. I can't help you then.05:34
bsidhipothesarge: vncserver has option on command line for you to specify resolutions ... erm05:34
Myrthit had everything commented out, so i've added ocz10xx and uncommented raid1 because i want to use raid1 later05:34
research4oscarsacarlson: Some of the reading I've done, they talk about creating a group and assigning them to the var/www folder.  Then added users to that group.05:34
Myrthjordan_u: ^^^05:34
TheSargebsidhipo: I can't even launch my vnc viewer from command line05:34
TheSargebsidhipo: How will that work if the Xorg server is already running in 800x600 anyways?05:34
bsidhipothesarge: i think you are confused05:35
Jordan_UMyrth: Please for now at least don't do anything other than what I ask you to. You shouldn't need to uncomment anything else as if you start using raid1 update-initramfs will detect that and do anything needed.05:35
Myrthjordan_u: can i mount stuff from initramfs busybox?05:35
TheSargebsidhipo: You are telling me VNC can change what resolution X11 server is running in?05:35
kevdogWhat X server?05:35
Myrthok, sorry, removing05:35
research4oscarsacarlson: but I haven't actually found full instructions on how to do that exactly.05:35
sacarlsonresearch4oscar: sure you can do that were a group of users all have rights to change in /var/www ;  you can just make it so that the default user add makes that the case05:36
Jordan_UMyrth: Sorry, I need to leave for about an hour.05:36
TheSargekevdog: The one running on my shell?05:36
bsidhipothesarge: take a break and read the manpages for vncserver :-)  it will become clear05:36
kevdogwhats the remote client?05:36
kevdoglinux?05:36
Myrthjordan_u: ok thanks05:36
Jordan_UMyrth: You're welcome.05:36
TheSargebsidhipo: I have, VNC server can only work with what Xorg has configured.05:36
bsidhipothesarge: "vncserver -geometry 4096x4096"05:37
TheSargeXorg creates the display not VNC05:37
sacarlsonresearch4oscar: I guess depending on the number of users to add would change the methods needed as manual adding users with users group gui is not hard in numbers of say 10 - 20 users05:37
benwalburnmy computer doesn't have bluetooth, so would it help my preformance/startup if I removed the bluetooth related files from /etc/xdg/autostart?05:38
sacarlsonresearch4oscar: it's just a mater of checking the box in each user to add to www-data group05:38
bsidhiposilence all of a sudden05:40
benwalburnthat happens a lot when I ask a question here05:40
kevdogI can post my xorg if you want?05:40
bsidhipokevdog: shhhhhh, it's vnc.  it's not "real X"05:40
TheSargebsidhipo: man x11vnc says geometry is the same as scale.. and scale just stretches the framebuffer.05:40
TheSargebsidhipo: I need to change the resolution05:41
bsidhipokevdog: i *think* he's talking about the virtual resolution on the vnc server side ... unless he's talking about the client side, which he hasn't made clear ... i'm assuming he meant the server side (which is headless)05:42
TheSargebsidhipo: I am talking about the resolution theat Xserver is running in...05:42
sacarlsonresearch4oscar: the install of apache2 has already created the group for you,  all you need in this case is to add each user member you wish to the group www-data05:43
bsidhipothesarge: you mean the VNC server right?  let's agree on some terminology first.  i assume you have two machines, right?  a, and b.  a is the server (headless, no graphics card).  b is the client where you interact with, has video, display, keyboard, and mouse, right?05:43
kukuruzacan someone tell me how to brouse a ext4 formatted partition trough windows?05:44
TheSargebsidhipo: No I dont mean the VNC server.. I mean the Xserver. Yes I have a headless server I am SSHing into05:44
sacarlsonkukuruza: there are 3rd party software that can mount ext4 partitions in windows,  google it05:45
bsidhipothesarge: alright.  so whose resolution are you complaining about?  a's, or b's?  the headless server's resolution?  or the client's resolution?05:45
TheSargebsidhipo: Obviously the Servers..05:45
bsidhipothesarge: so the headless server runs some kind of "vnc server" software, right?05:45
ubuxubuweird, it never asked me to make a swap part the when i finally fixed it05:45
TheSargebsidhipo: VNC just captures what X11 outputs.. so to change the resolution you change it in X1105:45
Myrthjordan_U: whenever you're here.. it didn't help. only ocz10xx is in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules, still drops into shell05:46
ubuxubuwonder wut i have for a swap??05:46
TheSargebsidhipo: Yes, its running an XServer and a VNC server05:46
bsidhipothesarge: what software are you using for the vnc server?  name, please?05:46
Myrthjordan_u: cat /proc/modules doesn't show ocz10xx, it should, right?05:46
TheSargebsidhipo: The issue is the Xserver is running at 800x60005:46
ubuxubuunless it recalled on its own the swap i had made for it before05:46
TheSargebsidhipo: x11vnc05:46
bsidhipothesarge: now we're getting somewhere05:47
TheSargebsidhipo: I already read the documentation... The scale option doesnt change the resolution it can only stretch it, you have to change X11 resolution.05:47
bsidhipothesarge: x11vnc appears to grabs the bitmaps of a running X server.  in order for that to happen you would have to have a functioning card of some sort (you may say headless but it's actually driving a card, perhaps with no monitor, that's why it's limited to such a low resolution because there's no DDC communication)05:49
editorhallo05:50
bsidhipothesarge: the easiest solution is to not run an actual X server (there's no need for you to drive an actual display).  i really suggest you run xvfb if you MUST run x11vnc.  or, best to go with "vncserver" (which implements its own X server inside)05:50
TheSargebsidhipo: Trust me, it has no videocard. I told you already that it captures from Xserver. Like 15 times05:50
bsidhipothesarge: it must have some sort of onboard card for X to even start in that configuration ... unless X is somehow smart enough to choose xvfb which i kinda doubt05:50
TheSargebsidhipo: It has no videocard. It is right next to me.05:51
TheSargeno onboard, no PCI, no AGP..05:51
bsidhipothesarge: with xvfb, you can configure the resolution on the command line, then you can point x11vnc to that virtualized framebuffer server05:51
TheSargebsidhipo: Okay, thx05:52
bsidhipothesarge: show me /var/log/X.0.log and humor me :-)05:52
phpN00bis it possible to have a bigger scrollbar? right now it is very narrow. I prefer the old style05:54
wollwHello, I05:59
TheSargebsidhipo: What is a clean way to remove xserver now? Cause apt-get remove x11-comon failed :(05:59
wollwwell, that wasn't meant to happen05:59
* wollw finishes typing message.05:59
Myrthare there any reasons against lvm on boot ssd?06:00
sacarlsonMyrth: not that I know of but you might need the alternate ubuntu install iso that supports lvm to install it06:01
Myrthsacarlson, this page is fine with livecd: http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-install-ubuntu-over-lvm-filesystem06:01
TheSargebsidhipo: This is perfect, I tried X11 Forwarding over ssh, I tried that Xserver fiasco.. This is very fast... PErfect. Ty so much.06:02
bsidhipothesarge: no prob06:03
sacarlsonMyrth: is shows in that link you gave me Unfortunately, at the time this article was written, Ubuntu does not offer such settings with the Desktop Install CD.06:03
Jon--After enabled compiz, any <Super> bind I set up with xbindkeys is not working. How can I fix this? Ubnutu 11.10. I don't appear to have anything bound to <Super> using ccsm advanced search. Using gnome-classic interface.06:03
Jon--^ been trying for a few days and I help out in here a decent amount. Any ideas guys?06:04
Myrthsacarlson: which settings? i can do `apt-get install lvm2`06:04
sacarlsonMyrth: it has to do with what's missing in initrz  I think06:05
Myrthoh.. i've tried to install from NetInstall edition, but then i didn't find how to load SSD module06:05
bsidhipothesarge: is the server an intel core i5 by any chance?06:06
sacarlsonMyrth: I'm sure you can make a custom cd with the added modules but I think the alternate iso might already have them06:06
Myrthok i'll try thanks06:07
nullcallhi i made mistake in ubuntu i want to remove my ftp server n i made "sudo apt-get remove ftp*" ?????  plz help me wt should i do ???06:08
scrachiefuck linux windows rlz!06:09
bsidhiposcrachie: your mom must be proud06:09
TheSargebsidhipo: No its a Rackmount Blade06:09
scrachie!ops | attention!06:09
ubottuattention!: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, jpds, gnomefreak, bazhang, jussi, Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler or Jordan_U!06:09
nullcallsacarlson: hi06:09
nullcallhi i made mistake in ubuntu i want to remove my ftp server n i made "sudo apt-get remove ftp*" ?????  plz help me wt should i do ???06:10
TheSargenullcall: No need to repeat06:10
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bsidhiponullcall: what's the name of the package you want to remove?  if you don't remember, "dpkg --get-selections | grep ftp"06:10
tensorpuddingyou sure seem to be jumping around channels to get help, TheSarge06:11
nullcallbsidhipo: now my system is starting in only CUI mode n i dont know wt i do to fix it06:13
TheSargebsidhipo: I bet it thinks it has a videocard because its a vm?06:13
bsidhiponullcall: what does that have to do with ftp (or dpkg --get-selections) ?  am confused06:13
TheSargebsidhipo: He is trying to remove his ftpd package and reinstall it.06:14
bsidhipothesarge: if it's a vm, yeah :-)  that's probably why it was slow before.  because all the reads and writes have to be emulated06:14
nullcallbsidhipo: my firefox and many more application removed due to this command line06:14
TheSargebsidhipo: Its not a slow vm lol.06:14
bsidhipothesarge: which is why xvfb would be a lot faster since it's all software framebuffer, no driving hardware involved06:14
arinovhow to change repository from http to ftp?06:14
nullcallbsidhipo: i want to remove my ftpd06:14
TheSargebsidhipo: Oh I didnt go with xvfb, I went with vncserver06:15
bsidhiponullcall: what command line?06:15
nullcallbsidhipo: and gadmin-ftp06:15
nullcallbsidhipo : i made "sudo apt-get remove ftp*"06:15
bsidhipothesarge: yeah, same thing :-)  vncserver implements a virtual framebuffer internally.  the reason vncserver is so big is because it is entire X server inside ;-)06:15
bsidhiponullcall: i don't know if that should have even worked :-)  ok, let's say it did, how many package did it remove?  a lot?  a few?  what?06:16
nullcallbsidhipo: a lot with garaphic n firefox also06:17
TheSargebsidhipo: I still have all the Xserver junk taking up space on my box and apt-get remove x11-common fails for some reason?06:17
bsidhipothesarge: because of dependencies.  use graphical tool or remove the virtual package06:17
nullcallbsidhipo: might be apt-get also06:17
bsidhipothesarge: there's a virtual package that depends on all X server variants06:18
TheSargebsidhipo: remove the virtual package?06:18
bsidhipothesarge: i forget what the name is ... maybe someone will chime in06:18
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TheSargebsidhipo: I am lost lol, do you kne c++?06:18
TheSargeknow06:18
bsidhipoi dislike c++ ... much rather use c, or objective-c06:19
bsidhipo(or smalltalk)06:19
shakeel391hi i am new to irc06:19
bsidhipooh it's a joke ... haha, it's late :-p  i should go to bed06:20
nullcallbsidhipo: now i got cui ut i cant start GUI its asking for low graphich06:22
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TheSargeWhats the beginning C++ channel called?06:26
nullcallTheSarge: do you want to learn c++06:27
TheSargenullcall: I am learning C++06:27
TheSargeI am doing while loops right now06:28
nullcallTheSarge: ok how may i help you06:28
TheSargenullcall: isn't it off topic here?06:28
nullcallTheSarge: yes try to find for you plz wait06:28
TheSargenullcall: I'd ask in #C++ but they banned me for being so noob06:30
marculeswat06:30
marculesHow unfriendly06:30
nullcallTheSarge: join #c++06:30
TheSargeI know bazhang is in here, he hates me. So I have to be good ;)06:30
TheSargenullcall: I'm banned there, they don't like newbs06:30
TheSargeThere is a beginners channel06:30
TheSargeSomething like #C++-basic06:31
TheSargebut thats not it06:31
mohammadtitihi guys....i have a ubuntu which is installed alongside windows 7....my win7 doesn't boot and it gives me this error: BOOTMGR is missing....what can i do to have them both running along each other?????06:31
marculesreinstall grub and use less question marks06:32
hubsingeri'm running a german 10.04lts and when selecting "open with / other application" in nautilus some of the entries are doubled or tripled - any idea how to clear that up ?06:32
nullcallTheSarge: see this link http://www.cplusplus.com/forum/general/06:35
nullcallTheSarge : the my be help you too much after that you can join #c++06:35
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TheSargenullcall: Im banned in #C++ but I found the channel its #C++-Basic06:38
dr--willisbanned.. or just need to register your nick...06:39
iqbalhere4uHi All..06:39
iqbalhere4uAny option to check all the available channels?06:39
dr--willis!alis06:40
ubottualis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*06:40
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ubottualis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*06:40
mohammadtitihi guys....i have a ubuntu which is installed alongside windows 7....my win7 doesn't boot and it gives me this error: BOOTMGR is missing....what can i do to have them both running along each other?????06:40
dr--willisno one ever reads what the bot says....06:41
dr--willismohammadtiti:  how did you install ubuntu? via wubi? or booted the cd../06:41
Myrthsacarlson: alternate iso doesn't have driver for my ssd. is there a way to add?06:42
mohammadtitidr--willis: i booted the cd06:42
dr--willismohammadtiti:  so you have a grub menu and windows from grub fails to boot?06:43
iqbalhere4uCan any one please tell me which is the best channel for java ?06:43
bazhangiqbalhere4u, ##java06:44
mohammadtitino...the grub is ok...it shows the win7 option but whenever i want to boot the windows instead of booting it, that error comes06:44
iqbalhere4uThank you @bazhang06:45
m4rcelhello, transmission wont start minimized, i added -m or --minimized at the end of my command and it won't show transmission in system tray06:45
m4rcelany idea why?06:45
Jordan_Umohammadtiti: Try asking in ##windows06:45
dr--willismohammadtiti:  could be its booting the wrong windows partitio also. or the windows bootloader needs to be reinstalled. tthen you may need to restore grub06:46
iqbalhere4uHey @bazhang.. I am not able to join that channel06:46
dr--willisiqbalhere4u:  you registered your nick?06:46
bazhang!register | iqbalhere4u06:46
ubottuiqbalhere4u: Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode06:46
bazhangiqbalhere4u, /join #freenode for that06:47
Jordan_UMyrth: Yes, /proc/modules should include ocz10xx.06:47
mohammadtitidr--willis: i know that....the windows bootloader needs to be reinstalled, you're 100% right....but how can i restore grub? i don't know this one....06:47
mohammadtitiactually how can i make a backup copy from it????06:47
Jordan_Umohammadtiti: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#ChRoot06:47
MyrthJordan_U: hi, i'm trying to reinstall from alternate iso from scratch06:48
dr--willis!fixgrub06:48
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)06:48
Myrthso right now i'm in language selection. opening new console, insmod ocz10xx.ko, continuing with wizard?06:49
iqbalhere4u@ubottu, means I must register to join the channel ?06:49
bazhangiqbalhere4u, ask in #freenode  NOT here as I said06:50
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fidelhi06:51
thetinyjesusdoes ubuntu run faster/smoother than linux mint?06:51
Jordan_Uthetinyjesus: It depends on your hardware. Applications will generally perform the same, but they use different window managers and especially compositing window managers are sometimes stronger with some graphics cards / drivers than others so it could go either way.06:53
marculesIsn't compiz disabled by default in mint?06:54
Jordan_Uthetinyjesus: That is, if you stick to the default window managers of compiz in Ubuntu and (I believe, you'd have to confirm in their support channel) mutter for linux mint.06:54
goddardis there a surefire way to convert videos for android?06:57
tomsawyertokesim a stoned ass nigger06:57
goddard!racism06:57
tomsawyertokes?06:58
zandthi all... so I downloaded boot-repair liveusb because I boinked grub. ran boot-repair, didn't work, then I discovered the hdd with ubuntu etc on it wasn't mounted. so I'm trying to mount /dev/sda, but I get a 'can't find /dev/sda in /etc/fstab' error06:58
dr--willisgoddard:  surefire? theres many ways.. and with the right players. my android devices can play most anything i throw at them06:58
dr--willisgoddard:  winff, arista,  mencoder, ffmpeg...06:58
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zandtI'm a little zoned out frlom trying to work diff solutions to fix grub, so I'm not sure where to proceed :|06:59
dr--williszandt:  you want to mout sda1 most likely not sda06:59
MyrthJordan_U: can i PM please?07:00
zandtsame error dr--willis07:00
Jordan_UMyrth: Sure, but I'd prefer to keep support discussion in-channel.07:00
Myrthit just gets very all over the place..07:00
dr--williszandt:  details..... are helpfull07:01
eliezeri need to edit a line in order to dim my backlight,,i can remember how i did las time :(07:01
Jordan_UMyrth: If you run "/lastlog Myrth" in most clients it will show all of the lines which have been sent by or to you.07:01
zandtdr--willis, using boot-repair liveUSB (grub isn't showing up) to repair grub. it scans and is only seeing the USB it's on07:01
zandtI'm guessing (and I'm not entirely sure, because the instructions I've read never mentioned needing to manually mount) that if I mount sda(or 5) boot-repair would then see where to restore grub to07:02
dr--williszandt:  mount /dev/sda5      needs more options[. or a fstab entry07:03
dr--willis!mount07:04
ubottumount is used to attach devices to directories. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount07:04
Jordan_Uzandt: I would recommend against using boot-repair personally. I'm not aware of any issues with it but I think it's better to know and be able to document what is being done.07:04
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eliezeri cant dim the light is there a fix for this ?07:05
zandtJordan_U, what would you suggest? I'm pulling my hair out07:05
sharpspearhello. I was trying to install mysql trough the software center, but the installation stopped saying "applying changes". how can i cancel it and try again?07:05
zandtdr--willis,  sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt doesn't work, ethier. 'special device does not exist'07:05
dr--williszandt:  does sudo fdisk -l   show any sda?07:06
zandtdr--willis,  yeah, 1 through 607:06
Jordan_Uzandt: What problem are you having with grub?07:07
zandtjordan, I think when I installed Plop boot manager (to boot from UBS, my bios doesn't support it) I overwrote the mbr07:07
zandtso grub isn't showing up on boot07:07
zandtI'm using a liveusb right now07:08
zandt*USB07:08
Jordan_Uzandt: Please pastebin the output of "sudo blkid".07:09
zandtokay, one moment07:09
sacarlsonMyrth: I wonder if that method I see in your link http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-install-ubuntu-over-lvm-filesystem  where they chroot after boot would enable you to add your ssd driver?07:10
zandtJordan_U, http://pastebin.com/4RxvNYdg07:10
massacrehello07:12
massacrecan any one tell em how to add lan connection in ubuntu07:13
almoxarifehttp://sourceforge.net/p/boot-repair/home/Home/   <---- that is the simplest method to restore grub/mbr anywhere07:13
Myrthsacarlson: at this point i think i need to know where to copy the module file so it will be included into initramfs when i run update-iniramfs07:14
Marzatamassacre: use the network applet?07:14
massacre   its not working07:14
massacreany answer?07:16
SpiceManI upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04. now all the man pages are gone. any easy way to install man pages for everything instead of installing them one by one. and why the hell did it get rid of the man pages in the first place?07:16
hubsingermassacre: what's the problem with the network applet ?07:17
massacream not getting my lan connection option07:17
hubsingermassacre: do you want to configure an additional physical lan, or specify different ip settings07:19
zandtbrb07:19
Dildeauxchimpout07:19
Dildeaux.com07:19
Dildeaux /forum07:19
Dildeauxis the place to be07:19
FloodBot1Dildeaux: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.07:19
Dildeauxto learn about the facts07:19
Dildeauxabout Trayvon Martin07:19
massacreno i don't want any physical lan07:19
sacarlsonMyrth: that makes sense.  In my searches I don't see anyone speak of adding drivers to use ssd as boot07:19
DildeauxTrayvon Martin has me upset07:20
hubsingermassacre: so you want for example different ip settings for home / office07:20
DildeauxI have poured out my heart on this website07:20
Dildeauxchimpout07:20
Dildeaux.com07:20
FloodBot1Dildeaux: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.07:20
zandtback07:22
ubuxubuproblem solved07:22
ejvim horrified sites like that exist, let alone have members, *sigh*07:23
zandtJordan_U, I should add.... I'm using a boot loader to boot from USB because my bios doesn't support it & the cd drive on this machine doesn't work... so if I boink grub up more :| lol07:23
ejvthx for acting so swiftly Jordan_U !07:23
zandtejv, agreed07:23
SpiceManok. now one knows, should've known better07:23
Jordan_Uejv: You're welcome, but in the future please simply ignore such spam. If you feed the trolls it will just encourage them to come back.07:24
sharpspearhello. I was trying to install mysql trough the software center, but the installation stopped saying "applying changes". how can i cancel it and try again?07:25
NFisherHi all! im using Ubuntu 10.04 and have 4 Workspaces which i use. Now im wondering if there is a possibility to ged rid of the gnome-panels in Workspaces 2-4 since i dont need them there and would much appreciate the space they need?07:26
sacarlsonMyrth: I still don't have enuf info I guess your ssd is a scsi device so the driver isn't embedded in the kernel or initz file what is the name of your scsi controler?07:26
Myrthsacarlson, the driver is downloaded from here: http://oczenterprise.com/drivers.html07:27
Myrthit's PCIe SAS SSD07:27
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zandtcrashed :|07:32
sacarlsonMyrth: worst case you could compile a new kernel with the driver added and boot install live cd chroot and install your needed kernel mods07:33
Myrthin ##linux they told me to just copy ko file into kernel drivers folder07:34
Myrthand depmod -a07:34
zandtJordan_U, no idea what I'm doing now. I was going to try to follow grub-install instructions @ first, but it's not in debians repos I guess. + can't even mount heh07:34
Myrthdepmod -n shows that it was registered07:34
sacarlsonMyrth: I've seen onother link that tried that and failed as the modules need to be compiled and linked on the same kernel, but if you compile the same kernel as will be installed with livecd that would also work07:35
Myrthsacarlson, there's no source for the module. only compiled binary07:35
Jordan_Uzandt: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l"?07:35
zandtsure, one second :|07:36
sacarlsonMyrth: oh ok then I guess that's how it's done then07:36
zandtJordan_U, http://pastebin.com/Ay2wnSeb07:37
sacarlsonMyrth: my guess is there ko file will only work on a group of kernel not all07:37
Myrthsacarlson, yep, it works only up until 3.0, doesn't work with 3.207:37
Myrthso i couldn't use precise07:37
sacarlsonMyrth: oh so no 11.10 eather then I guess since I have Linux sacarlson-11 3.0.0-12-generic #20-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 7 14:50:42 UTC 2011 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux07:38
sacarlsonas default install from ubuntu 11.1007:38
Myrthsacarlson, it loaded and worked fine on 11.1007:38
Myrthi think 3.0 didn't have much difference from 2.607:38
Myrthit was just number bump07:39
sacarlsonMyrth: ok cool07:39
Myrthnow i'm fighting to mount lvm module...07:39
Myrthbecause i've decided to go with it... how to mount lvm from alternate livecd? i have lvm commands already loaded, but mount doesn't want to work...07:40
HeliusCronneeds some help puting ubuntu on a usb stick07:40
MyrthHeliusCron, unetbootin ?07:40
zandtHeliusCron, yeah, unetbootin. or universal-usb-creator if you're in windows07:40
HeliusCroni ran the pendrive util  to put 11.10 onto a thumb drive,  it looks like it completed fine but now my PC doesnt see it as a bootable device anymore.07:41
HeliusCronversion 10 was fine same device07:41
Myrthsacarlson, oh nm, mounted to /dev/mapper/...07:41
sacarlsonmyrth: well if you can't figure out the alternate livecd I guess you could also try your link method that might work but I've never done it that way,  also been some time since I've used lvm at all07:42
HeliusCronUniversal-USB-Installer-1.8.8.907:42
zandtHeliusCron, try doing it over. not sure :| but I have had problems with sandisk usb's. I had one for a few months, worked fine, but then it wouldn't boot from it07:42
HeliusCronworked fine till i reformatted it just now and put 11.10 on it07:43
zandtI would format it and try usb-creator again. also before that you might want to verify that .iso isn't corrupted or something07:44
HeliusCronI'm running the util again07:44
HeliusCronfiles all show up in windows ok07:44
Jordan_Uzandt: It's very odd to me that fdisk -l is listing more partitons than blkid. My guess would be that there is something wrong witht he filesytems on these partitions. So while it may seem redundant, could you also pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l"?07:44
zandtJordan_U, sure07:44
zandtJordan_U, http://pastebin.com/9YACFngW07:46
Jordan_Uzandt: OK. There is clearly something wrong with the partition table of /dev/sda.07:48
zandt:| that doesn't sound good07:48
HeliusCronstill can't boot to the device, wtf07:49
HeliusCronwas just working07:49
Jordan_Uzandt: If the drive supports SMART diagnostics I would recommend checking them (this can be done via "Disk Utility" or the smartctl command).07:49
Jordan_Uzandt: If that shows no hardware problems, I would then (and only then) move on to fixparts to see if it can tell what is wrong and fix it.07:50
faryshtais there a way to start flash by console?07:51
anthroposwhat kind of drive is it07:51
faryshtaanthropos, macromedia flash :P07:51
anthropossorry, I was speaking to zandt07:51
zandtJordan_U, alright thanks.07:51
zandtanthropos, not really sure, it's from '98 though, so whatever was being used around that time07:52
anthroposah07:52
HeliusCronguess i'll try the 64 bit iso?07:52
HeliusCronthumbdrive still wont boot07:52
nullcallis there any GUI tool to configure OpenSSH like Gadmin07:53
anthroposyou should check the stuff SMART logs by default, then try a short scan followed by a long scan (a surface scan). that's what I'd do, anyways.07:53
anthropossometimes the stuff SMART logs can be difficult to interpret though07:53
HeliusCronor put 10.04 back maybe its a bug with 11.1007:53
Jordan_Uzandt: You're welcome.07:53
anthroposI have a drive that has a nonzero number of remapped sectors, which concerns me, but it's below the threshold set by the manufacturer so the SMART check deems it a pass07:54
MyrthYAY it worked!07:55
faryshtaIs there a way to start flash using the console?07:55
zandtanthropos, I'll give it a try. I dunno. doesn't sound good07:55
Myrthyee haa!!! ok day not wasted for nothing07:55
anthroposzandt, did you back up your data?07:55
zandtanthropos, nope :(07:56
anthropossome of the drive manufacturers will do data recovery stuff, if it's really messed up07:56
sacarlsonmyrth: cool, see if you don't give up you can't fail07:56
zandtif worse comes to worse, I'd be okay with just doing a clean install. if that's even possible :|07:57
Jordan_Uzandt: OK, so to get this straight, this is a very old drive with data you don't have backed up and the drive potentially has hardware issues (but that's not known yet). Correct?"07:57
anthroposdo you have the SMART stuff open?07:57
zandtJordan_U, correct07:57
anthroposhe probably realizes it was a bad idea, at this point :)07:57
zandtanthropos, installing it, it didn't come on the liveusb I'm using07:57
Jordan_Uzandt: Do you have a larger drive which you can trust more than this one?07:57
zandtI'm not TERRIBLY worried about losing data. I just wanted to get back into ubuntu07:58
zandtJordan_U, nope07:58
zandttrying to get smartctl up and running. command not found, lemme google07:59
anthroposyou will probably prefer using the disk utility07:59
anthroposor gsmartmon08:00
Jordan_Uzandt: sudo apt-get install smartmon-tools08:00
zandtI'm not sure that's on here. I did install gsmartmon though08:00
zandt(I'm using debian repos, by the way. the boot-repair USB is based off debian AFAIK)08:00
zandtoh no heh "Failed to execute child process "smartctl" (No such file or directory)"08:01
anthroposi'm just curious, how big is the drive from '98 and what interface does it use?08:02
zandtoff the top of my head I'd say it's around 30gigs. no idea what interface. I know absolutely zero about hardware (even mine)08:02
faryshtaIs there a way to start flash using the console?08:03
webnetAnyone know how to make my panel setings and theme system wide?08:04
webnettried googling it and couldnt seem to find an answwer08:04
zandtI installed smartmontools (I googled it, that's supposedly the package in debian), gsmartcontrol isn't picking up smartctl though08:05
zandtand neither is the command line08:05
IsUpGood day, ive just installed Ubuntu 11.10 Server on virtual host. It's HDD is 10 GB, but i can only see 3.0GB for /dev/hda1, also 4.0GB is mounted on '/run/shm' Here is my output: http://pastebin.com/p0JqqkcG Any ideas?08:06
lotuspsychje!info smartmontools08:06
ubottusmartmontools (source: smartmontools): control and monitor storage systems using S.M.A.R.T.. In component main, is optional. Version 5.41+svn3365-1 (oneiric), package size 444 kB, installed size 1284 kB08:06
sacarlsonzandt: in the ubuntu disk utility it has the smartclt results and test08:06
zandtsorry was googling how to use it :|08:06
zandtsacarlson, gsmartcontrol doesn't see smartclt and I don't see disk utility (it's boot-repair liveusb)08:07
anthroposIsUp /run/shm is a ramdisk, i think the 4G you are seeing is just the max size (probably half your memory or something)08:07
anthroposIsUp, you can't find the missing space in df -h ?08:07
zandton the upside, sudo smartctl -i /dev/sda says it's smart enabled08:07
zandtso I suppose that's good08:07
anthroposnm, you pasted it.08:07
IsUpanthropos: i can find. if i calculate, its 10 GB in total. but why 3GB is allocated for '/'? Its too small actually08:08
sacarlsonzandt: I would assume it would be a part of a standard desktop livecd,  I don't recall installing it so I assume it's just there08:08
IsUpanthropos: can i use /run/shm safely? or what should i do?08:08
anthropos /run/shm should be a tmpfs filesystem or something like that, not a physical disk.08:08
zandtsacarlson, it's not in my menus. it's very bare bones.08:09
IsUplet me pastebin my fdisk output08:09
lihello08:09
zandtok fixed gsmartcontrol :D08:09
anthroposwhat hypervisor are you using IsUp08:09
IsUpanthropos: it's Microsoft Hyper-V08:09
IsUp'fdisk -l' output: http://pastebin.com/DLFx21mt08:10
anthroposah, I know nothing about it08:10
anthroposare you sure it really made the hard disk as large as it claims it did08:10
IsUpanthropos: i think, yes08:11
zandtanthropos, should I run short/extended/or conveyance self-test? (gsmartcontrol) (am I even @ the right spot heh)08:11
anthroposyour fdisk lists /dev/sda1, etc but I see only /dev/hda1 in the output of mount08:11
anthroposare both being run from the guest os?08:11
anthroposzandt, I would look at the SMART data that it saves automatically first, then do short, then do extended. but i'm not an expert at hard disk recovery or anything08:12
hubsingerhello - anybody knows of a working cd-printer/software combination for ubuntu ?08:12
anthroposmost hdd manufacturers also offer bootable disks and/or utilities designed to check their drives, but mostj ust do the basic SMART stuff08:12
zandtanthropos, okay. *pretends to understand what he's reading*08:12
anthroposi think gsmartmon will make things red if it's supposed to be really alarming. I would look specifically to see if there are any reallocated sectors, zandt08:13
IsUpanthropos: ive setup only 1 disk in Hyper-V, 10 GB in total and that's all i know :p08:13
anthroposIsUp, I guess my question was sutpid, since your host OS is windows, these commands both must be run from the guest08:13
lotuspsychjehubsinger: hp tools exist for ubuntu08:13
zandtyeah I have an error log. I just have no idea what any of it means.08:14
anthroposIsUp, it looks like the same idsk is mapped to sda and hda08:14
IsUpanthropos: i am running all commands in ssh08:14
anthroposhow big is hda2 if you mount it08:14
wdawdawdaw2If I'm hosting a single server what is the best way to remote monitor it? Zenoss? Nagios? Something else? What's the most secure choice.. I think exploits have popped up for both...?08:14
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Yup2If I'm hosting a single server what is the best way to remote monitor it? Zenoss? Nagios? Something else? What's the most secure choice.. I think exploits have popped up for both...?08:14
anthroposnm, it's an extended partition and all that's in it is a swap partition08:15
IsUpYup2: nagios08:15
anthroposIsUp, how much swap did you allocate08:15
lotuspsychje!ssh | Yup208:15
ubottuYup2: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH for client usage. PuTTY is an SSH client for Windows; see: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ for it's homepage. See also !scp (Secure CoPy) and !sshd (Secure SHell Daemon)08:15
IsUpanthropos: i didnt change partitions on setup. ive just selected "use all partitions" or something08:15
zandtbrb08:16
Yup2you recommend using ssh over nagios?...08:16
lotuspsychjessh over vnc tunnel08:16
anthroposIsUp, it may have made a ton of swap or something08:16
lotuspsychje!vnc08:16
ubottuVNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX08:16
Yup2yeah I know what vnc is :P08:17
hubsingerlotuspsychje: ok, but for the printing itself i'd use Glabels for example08:17
IsUpanthropos: should i format my disk again? my ram is 8GB btw08:18
hubsingerlotuspsychje: i do ask because some time ago i did that using a espon r285 with glabels it it was quite a hassle08:18
zandtback08:18
lotuspsychjehubsinger: does brasero not have a cd printing addon?08:18
zandtanthropos, Jordan_U, nothing is screaming @ me in the error log that it already has, but I can't make sense of it either. would it be okay I pasteb'd it ?08:19
anthroposIsUp, i think it made a massive swap partition08:20
anthropos2x your memory, which the hypervisor probably allowed because i'ts doing thin provisioning08:20
anthroposzandt, yes please pastebin it08:20
hubsingerlotuspsychje: didn't find it in 10.0408:20
anthroposand start a short test08:20
zandtanthropos, http://pastebin.com/aCfA0vcn it's not terribly long. maybe it make sense to you08:21
lotuspsychjehubsinger: in extra/cd cover print08:21
IsUpanthropos: so what should i do now08:21
Yup2For a single server\admin is there a desktop application that can just ssh and grab apache\mysql data live?08:21
Yup2instead of installing anything on the server08:21
lotuspsychje!info koverartist08:22
ubottuPackage koverartist does not exist in oneiric08:22
zandtit does say PASS but it also went out of it's way on highlight to tell me that didn't mean everything was okay heh08:22
hubsingerlotuspsychje: yes but only for the cover - not the cd itself08:22
lotuspsychjeoh right08:22
lotuspsychjelemme look08:22
anthroposzandt, there should also be a spreadsheet like summary, do you see it08:22
Yup2For a single server\admin is there a desktop application that can just ssh and grab apache\mysql data live? instead of installing anything on the server?08:24
zandtanthropos, yeah08:24
anthroposzandt, are any of the rows red, and are any sectors reallocated08:24
Ben64Yup2: should just use ssh08:25
Yup2gotcha08:25
zandtanthalamus, none are red, but sectors at LBA = stringofnumbers = differentstringofnumbers08:25
Yup2nothing is more secure than ssh right?08:25
anthroposzandt, there are defnitely some errors logged but it's hard to see if they are a catastrophe or not08:25
zandtanthropos*08:25
anthroposwhat is the raw value for the number of bad sectors08:25
zandtthe string of numbers I'm talking about? or something else08:26
Ben64Yup2: well its the "secure shell"08:26
Yup2yeah telnet is crap right08:26
anthroposit can't be that huge. it should talk about how many sectors are remapped or reallcoated or something like that08:26
anthroposif this drive is modern enough to remap sectors08:26
Ben64telnet isn't really used anymore08:26
anthroposYup2, always use ssh, never telnet08:26
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zandtsectors at LBA = 0x08891fc2 = 143204290 (not even sure if this is what you mean)08:27
Yup2through ssh how do you recommend i view server traffic on the fly?08:27
zandtlet me look some more08:27
anthroposcan you take a screenshot zandt and imagebin it or something08:27
Ben64you could have a screen running all the time with bwm-ng or another program with bandwidth statistics08:27
Yup2thanks ill look into it08:27
anthroposit really depends what you mean by 'server traffic', yup208:27
Guest49795都是字母,不认识!08:28
zandtno graphics program on here. but I think I see what you're talking about08:28
zandtunder attributes....... raw read error rate08:28
zandtraw value is 008:28
anthroposthats something else08:29
zandtreallocation raw vlaue 008:29
anthroposyes, that08:29
anthroposzero is what you want08:29
lotuspsychje!info kcdlabel08:29
ubottuPackage kcdlabel does not exist in oneiric08:29
anthroposdid the short scan complete, zandt08:29
zandtlet me do it :) I was looking @ the error log lol08:29
zandtshouldn't take long.08:29
droid-0854Yup2,  have you used ethetape?08:29
DJones!cn | Guest4979508:29
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anthroposthe short test takes about a minute on my drive, but it will only fail if your drive is REALLY messed up08:30
droid-0854*etherape08:30
hubsingerlotuspsychje: thx08:30
Guest49795谢谢08:30
oxidizerhi08:31
lotuspsychjehubsinger: seems like libreoffice can print them too08:31
waxstonezh! | Guest49795,08:31
almoxarife!cn08:31
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zandtanthropos, test result: completed without error.08:31
anthroposzandt, start the long one if you have about an hour to spare08:31
zandtalright08:31
lotuspsychjehubsinger: http://registry.gimp.org/node/13208:36
hubsingerlotuspsychje: many thx - i'll take a closer look08:37
HeliusCroncan anyone help with ubuntu install issue08:40
lotuspsychje!ask | HeliusCron08:41
ubottuHeliusCron: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience08:41
HeliusCroni installed 11.10 fron usb thumb drive with option to install along side Win7 ,  but after install and reboot only windows loads with no option to boot ubuntu08:41
anthroposthere is an article on fixing grub, right?08:42
lotuspsychjeHeluisCron: try holding shift while boot post, to load grub, if not loading somethings wrong08:42
HeliusCronits the 64 bit iso08:42
lotuspsychje!grub08:42
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)08:42
lotuspsychjehello scientes08:43
HeliusCronthis machine has never had ubuntu on it before, this is first install08:43
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lotuspsychjeHeliusCron: try holding shift at boot, see what happens08:44
HeliusCronk08:44
HeliusCronbrb08:44
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HeliusCronmo luck man,  can i get those link for fix grub again08:49
HeliusCronno08:49
HeliusCroni see no option to load ubuntu at all even with holding shift key08:49
HeliusCroni do however see a new partition in my windows partitions08:50
HeliusCronon main drive08:50
lotuspsychje!fixgrub08:50
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)08:50
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HeliusCroni installed windows months ago and ubuntu just now, i'm surprised i see no grub08:51
Ubuntu-CDcow eats me...08:51
Yup2if you restrict ssh to a single ip address it should be bulletproof right? or can someone spoof it some how from the outside?...08:51
Mephisto__hello everybody!08:52
tryggvibis it possible to zoom out a bit on what get's sent to an external display?08:53
fatIs there a forum for linux mint here?08:53
DJones!mint | fat08:53
ubottufat: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org08:53
fatty08:53
tryggvibwe can't move a projector and some of the display is getting cut, so we'd like to "zoom out" make the image we send out smaller08:54
zandtanthropos, apologies... liveusb crashed. need to reinstall gsmartcontrol. are you leaving ?08:54
anthroposit's not bulletproof yup2 but it's secure if you set up ssh securely08:54
anthroposi'll be here awhile zandt08:54
DannyButtermanHi there08:55
zandtokay08:55
zandtI'm gonna lay down and let this test go. be back in a few08:55
anthroposlater08:56
DannyButtermanDoes someone know something about a bug where nautilus closes (crashes) upon renaming of one of its directories ?08:56
anthroposno, is it segfaulting08:58
DannyButtermananthropos : there is one segfault occurrence in syslog, but it's not matching the moment when I saw the nautilus window unexpectedly closing09:00
anthroposif you run nautilus from the console (in X) and reproduce the bug, do you see any errors09:00
DannyButtermananthropos : Mar 29 09:06:32 pc-atelier1 kernel: [ 9180.444363] nautilus[3679]: segfault at 40 ip 000000000048933e sp 00007fffb2a75a00 error 4 in nautilus[400000+1b9000]09:01
anthroposcan you reproduce that now at the console?09:01
DannyButtermananthropos: no, it doesn't do it anymore, but it does very often09:02
anthroposdid it make any core dumps09:02
DannyButtermananthropos : there's also this "Mar 29 10:34:48 pc-atelier1 kernel: [14476.253653] nautilus[4061] general protection ip:7fd397c0dbd8 sp:7fffac19f360 error:0 in libgobject-2.0.so.0.2600.1[7fd397be2000+49000]"09:02
DannyButtermananthropos: no core dumps that I'm aware of09:06
Avornturhmm, my Xorg (on my desktop) is using 600 mb09:06
Avornturthat seems a bit much09:06
anthroposanything in /var/crash ?09:06
anthroposif not you probably don't have apport enabled09:07
DannyButtermananthropos : nothing either :s09:07
anthroposhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Apport09:08
anthroposi would try enabling apport and try to catch the crash09:08
anthroposit will sit in the background and intercept any segfaults, etc.09:08
heliuscronseems grub somehow got put on my 3rd data drive, wtf09:08
heliuscronhad to chose that drive ot boot first in bios09:09
DannyButtermananthropos: ok thanks, it's enabled now, looking forward to the next crash09:09
heliuscroncan someone help me setup critical stuff run 1st update stuff on this new install?09:10
webnetAnyone know how to make my panel setings and theme system wide? i tried using gconf, but upon creating a new user, the new user had the default ubuntu theme and purple background. anyone have any ideas?09:10
zandtanthropos, completed without error..09:11
anthroposzandt, i suppose thats good but it doesn't nec. mean the drive is safe09:12
heliuscroni just need to run 1st tiem updates please09:12
zandtyeah... I dunno, I was just trying to mount my HDD/nix file system :(09:12
zandtanthropos, I think I'm going to call it a night and try to bug some more people tomorrow09:14
zandtI appreciate your help09:14
morrii just made an update and it updated flash too, but it doesnot seem to work now anymore09:14
anthroposzandt, sounds good. dont trust the drive with your data09:15
anthroposor any drive for that matter. but this one especially09:15
zandthaha09:15
zandtalright09:15
zandttake care :)09:16
anthroposyou yoo09:16
anthropos*you too09:16
Yup2if you restrict ssh by ip address it should be nearly bulletproof right? or can someone spoof it some how from the outside?...09:20
anthroposeven if you don't restrict ssh access by ip address, if you are hte only one who has a valid account on the computer and you pick good passwords or, ebtter yet, do not allow password authentication, then it'll be pretty secure09:21
anthroposbut you can always undermine yourself by doing foolish things  regardless of those kinds of safety measures09:21
Yup2what if its a 1000 character password :P09:22
Ben64key based auth is awesome09:22
Yup2lol09:22
* Yup2 does the dr evil thing09:22
Ben64set it up once, don't have to type passwords to login09:23
Yup2sounds easier09:23
anthroposyes, just don't let your key get stolen09:23
Ben64if someone gets physical access to your computer, then you're screwed either way09:24
heliuscronanthropos u still offering some support ?09:24
anthroposi just answer the questions I know09:24
anthroposif you asked and I didn't answer it's probably because I didn't know or it was too vague09:24
heliuscronwhat do I need to do on a fresh install to be sure i have latest updates, what do i have ot run09:25
Ben64thats how most people in here are, waiting for a question they can answer09:25
anthroposheliuscron, if its a desktop install just use the update manager09:25
heliuscronin 10.04 i downloaded hundreds of files and updated09:26
heliuscronim a noob to ubuntu09:26
brontosaurusrexhow would i go updating karmic server to 10.04 or something?09:26
heliuscronwheres the manager09:26
anthroposthere should be a button to do it in the update manager. you can do it in the console via dist-upgrade but be careful with this09:26
anthroposheliuscron, i don't know where it is by default, i don't use the default interface. but if you use the dash and look for update, it should be there09:27
heliuscronk i see em now09:29
Yup2ftp is disabled by default in ubuntu server right09:30
Yup2the service09:30
Ben64Yup2: pretty sure that is correct09:30
opalepatricktrying to sort a few problems with evolution in ubuntu 11.10 (64) unity. The preview pane works on boot and then stops. I have done a backtrace and the trace just stops as well, although I can still do other actiosn.09:30
anthroposyes it is09:30
Yup2Thanks for the info appreciated09:30
opalepatrickI get this in the trace - (evolution:4639): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_hash_table_find: assertion `version == hash_table->version' failed - any ideas what it measn :-)09:30
Yup2as always09:31
anthroposcan you pastebin the full stack trace09:31
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opalepatrickhttp://pastebin.com/8kBrjbjc - anthropus09:33
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anthroposi see, pretty useless im afraid09:33
opalepatrickthis is a few actions like wandering around getting mail viewing posts, but evenytually the preview stops. Actions are still possible09:34
houssamhi09:34
houssamhiiiiiiii09:34
anthroposi don't know what to suggest other than searching for people who report this same error string09:34
opalepatrickwhat would be more useful anthropus?09:34
opalepatrickah ok cheers - crossed09:34
anthroposif it had a backtrace that had more information09:34
morriI just updated to the latest version of flash, but it doesn't seem to work .09:35
opalepatrickI know it is annoying makes me just want to go back to thunderbird09:35
houssamenter  : sudo apt-get update & apt-get upgrade09:35
houssamfor flash09:35
bdiHello. I am tryingto learn how to make .deb packages by following this tutorial: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Basic  It says i have to: "Apply the unzipped .diff.gz to the unpacked source directory". How do i do that?09:36
anthroposto apply a diff, oyu use the patch command typically09:37
ikoniabdi: look into the "patch" command09:37
ecthienderi'm noticing a problem recently. when i install programs who add system users, it fails, telling 'useradd: cant lock /etc/passwd try again later'. any insights/09:45
ecthiender?09:45
ecthienderand I get the same error when executing adduser seperately.09:46
usuarioaaa09:48
usuariooolaa09:48
usuariolllllllllllll09:48
usuarioke aseis?09:48
shafGood day internet09:49
sacarlsonecthiender: did you forget to use sudo ?09:49
ecthiendersacarlson, no :)09:49
usuarioI spain09:49
ecthiendersacarlson, it doesn't say permission denied. it says it can't lock the fle09:49
ecthienders/fle/file/09:49
usuariowhat your name?09:49
sacarlsonecthiender: show me the line you typed to have this happen09:50
ecthiendersudo adduser <username>09:50
shafDoes anyone here have any experience of SSD caching ?09:50
sacarlsonecthiender: you must put a real user name not <username>09:50
usuarioI from spain09:50
ecthienderi know sacarlson there was a real username :)09:51
anthroposshaf, elaborate09:51
usuarioboys o girls?09:51
sacarlsonecthiender: ok and I'm sure you also rebooted09:51
ecthiendersacarlson, my uptime is 1 day 4 hours09:51
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shafanthropos, I'm looking for Intel Smart Response for Linux but am hitting a brick wall ... There's bcache but I've not used it09:52
usuarioI spain09:52
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usuariohola me entendeis?09:52
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ecthiendersacarlson, here you go09:52
ecthienderhttp://pastebin.com/pZ5nYBMS09:53
anthroposshaf, I don't know anything about the proprietary software09:53
anthroposi just use an SSD in linux09:53
anthroposyou should probably disable any caching done by the kernel by picking the right scheduler, but presumably you already know that09:53
sacarlsonecthiender: how about sudo ls ;09:54
ecthiendersacarlson, this is when i tried installing mpd : http://pastebin.com/GpGD8L5109:54
shafanthropos, I'd like to accelerate an existing mechanical disk. I'll take a look at bcache09:54
ecthiendersacarlson, ??? sudo ls?09:54
shaf!bcache09:54
anthroposshaf, yeah, I understand your intent now09:54
sacarlsonecthiender: yes sudo ls; should show that the user you loged in on is in the sudoer list09:55
anthroposI don't know if ssd caching for an existing disk has been explicitly built in now but there are prob. roundabout ways to achieve it09:55
anthroposs/explicitly/explicitly implemented/09:55
ecthiendersacarlson, its just list directories as root (without bash colors)09:56
DannyButtermananthropos: I have crash data available (thanks to apport, and you of course). The bug was sent to whatever is supposed to deal with. What now ?09:56
anthroposDannyButterman, you can look in /var/crash to see if the backtrace helps you figure out what is going on09:56
DannyButtermananthropos : I've just had a look, but I don't know what to look for09:57
sacarlsonecthiender: I'm out of ideas  as sudo whoami ; would probly show your root also09:57
fabien_Hi, anyone using LXC ? I got an issue with shmmax parameter, not sure to understand how it works under a LXC context09:57
anthroposthere's one file that's huge, but at the top if it you should see somethin that looks like a crash report09:57
shafok next question when will I be able to hot do-release-upgrade on 12.04 beta109:57
ecthiendersacarlson, yeah. exactly :D09:57
shafok next question when will I be able to do  do-release-upgrade on 12.04 beta109:57
anthroposfabien_, i've only used it via arkose09:58
ecthiendersacarlson, wait i'm checking on that.find out if i'm on sudoers list. but i'm pretty sure i am. cause i just installed mpd.09:58
sacarlsonecthiender: oh maybe /etc or the lock file is now in a read only partition09:58
DannyButtermananthropos: yes, I meant, I know where it is, I'm reading it, but I don't know what to look for inside it09:58
fabien_anthropos: ok, I'm going to post a message on forums09:59
ecthiendersacarlson, hmm10:00
rajarshican any1 help me how to install java media framework in ubuntu 11.1010:00
Feathery_SerpentAre there alternatives to lm-sensors?10:00
ecthiendersacarlson, i have only one /dev, /dev/sda1 and it is mounted on /(root).10:01
sacarlsonecthiender: check  mount ;  see if all is mounter as rw10:01
ecthiender/dev/sda1 is mounted on / with rw sacarlson10:02
anthroposDannyButterman, the most informative part is probably where it says "Stacktrace:" part way through the .crash file10:02
anthroposbut its still gonna be cryptic10:02
sacarlsonecthiender: ok10:02
ecthiendersacarlson, there's an error=remount-ro. what does that mean?10:02
DannyButtermananthropos: I found this (dont know if it's relevant) "SegvReason: reading unknown VMA"10:03
anthroposi don't know. what I would be looking for is exactly where it died in the stack trace10:04
sacarlsonecthiender:  Look for /etc/group.lock, /etc/passwd.lock and /etc/shadow.lock files and remove them.10:05
anthroposyou should probably submit a proper bug report in addition to the automated thing apport does10:05
ecthiendersacarlson, oh ok. i'll try doing that10:05
anthroposif it dies in nautilus and not some library it calls, then you can do that at the nautilus project page10:05
sacarlsonecthiender: seems to be a bug in postfix in ubuntu 10.X https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/shadow/+bug/52389610:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 523896 in shadow (Ubuntu) "useradd: cannot lock /etc/passwd; try again later." [Medium,Confirmed]10:06
DannyButtermananthropos: I will. Meanwhile, could you have a look on this crash report (pastebin'd) ?10:06
ecthiendersacarlson, hmm.10:06
anthroposyes i can give it a shot10:06
ecthiendersacarlson, thanks btw :)10:06
sacarlsonecthiender: np10:06
virtuapostahi all, need some help here. How to rsync over dynamic ip? Have checked in google but no positive hits though10:07
Ben64rsync doesn't care if the ip is dynamic10:07
sacarlsonecthiender: I would have found it sooner but my network is slow today in thailand10:07
virtuapostaBen64, have tried but it stucks as soon as the ip changes10:07
anthroposvirtuaposta, if you are having trouble 'tracking' the ip you should consider aone of the free alternatives to dyndns10:08
anthroposI don't remember their names10:08
Ben64the ip shouldn't change often10:08
anthroposfreedns maybe10:08
ecthiendersacarlson, oh ok :) even here the internet is flaky (India)10:08
anthroposgoogle "dyndns alternative"10:08
virtuapostaanthropos, do not want to track the ip, i just need some data to rsync but my ip is dynamic one10:08
anthroposas Ben64 pointed out, that is not a problem10:08
anthroposunless you want to track the ip10:09
virtuapostaBen64 it changes in every 12mins10:09
Ben64the ip should only change when you restart the router or modem10:09
anthroposinitiate the rsync from the host with the dynamic ip10:09
virtuapostaanthropos, thats what I am doing but it stucks at ip change10:09
virtuapostahold on anthropos, Ben64 have got something :)10:10
sharpspearim trying to change permissions of a foler using "chmod a+w" but get reply Operation not permitted. how to fix?10:10
Turdtrying to get the filesystem on here bigger than 30gigs but i cannot figure it out.10:10
virtuapostalet me try this and will get back10:10
heliuscronis there a good client for newsgroups for Ubuntu?10:11
ecthiendersacarlson, i just checked. i don't even have the postfix package installed.10:11
anthropossharpspear, you may need to sudo10:11
Ben64heliuscron: sabnzbd+10:11
sacarlsonvirtuaposta: I thought that was part of what makes rsync so good as it should be able to continue if interupted10:11
Turdi downloaded Gparted and ran it and could resize the partition but i couldnt get ubuntu itself to grow. it still stayed at 30gig.10:12
anthroposdoes gparted resize both the partition and the filesystem10:12
sacarlsonecthiender: maybe another package has same problem now or you had a bad shutdown during a useradd10:12
Turdjust the partition.10:12
ecthiendersacarlson, oh ok few comments say that. :)10:12
virtuapostasacarlson, only if ip remains same as rsync also do trackback the ip10:12
DannyButtermananthropos : http://pastebin.com/E3pR2DMr10:13
sharpspearanthropos: that worked, thank you10:13
Turdanyone have any ideas?10:14
sacarlsonvirtuaposta: if restarted after fail it should still continue where it left off so not much time lost if you maybe add some auto restart or just wait till cron runs it again10:14
Turdanyone up?10:15
DannyButtermanTurd: Are you trying to resize the partition ubuntu is running on ?10:15
MyrttiTurd: can you explain a bit more about your setup?10:15
sacarlsonvirtuaposta: and the chances of ip change for me it only happens every 24 hours,  you might change the time window if it keeps happening to you10:15
Turdno i want to make the filesystem bigger than 30 gigs10:16
Turdi kept getting referred to Gparted but it didnt help or i couldnt figure it out.10:17
MonkeyDustTurd  boot from a live cd and then run gparted10:17
DannyButtermanTurd: my question may be naive but are you trying to resize a living partition (where ubuntu is currently running on your system) ?10:17
lexvegasAnyone know how to pass a USB HDD through to ubuntu running Virtual Box? It's formatted as EXT4, which my windows can't read10:17
Turdim still new to this im probably not being very clear.10:17
DMJCdoes anyone know howto install Intel SAS controller on Ubuntu?10:18
DMJCthere are drivers for SUSE and Redhat10:18
Turdi dont think i need to resize the partition10:18
ikoniaDMJC: are they not part of the kernel already /10:18
Turdit says im using 30 gigs out of a 147gig harddrive10:18
sacarlsonlexvegas: I can read my usb flash on virtualbox but could never figure out how to boot from one in virtualbox,  just add it in devices when it's pluged in10:18
DannyButtermanTurd: where does it say that ?10:19
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anthroposlexvegas, did you install the guest additions and all that jazz10:19
Turdin Gparted10:19
lexvegassacarlson, The problem is that windows doesnt recognize it as a drive. anthropos, Yes, they are installed10:19
sacarlsondmjc someone installed one earlier today, I didn't get much details10:20
Turdi have windows and ubuntu on the same machine just different harddrive (if that matters)10:20
DMJCn/m ikonia? I just found driver source10:20
DMJCit'll just be the raid manager I need to install now10:20
DMJCbuilding a 19.5TB storage server atm10:20
sacarlsonDMJC:  I saw myrth  install a PCIe SAS SSD, maybe he's still around10:22
DMJCI think I sorted it out10:22
sacarlsonok10:22
DMJCnot my first time with SAS, just first time with intel, their website is badly done10:23
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Ben64looking though the logs he comes here and is dumb often10:27
mi3whose the troll here?10:27
multiHYPos x lion, ssh-add is necessary after every start up. anyone knows why?10:27
Ben64multiHYP: this isn't an osx support channel, it is for ubuntu only10:27
Turdso any of you know how to make the home folder bigger than 30 gigs?10:28
multiHYPBen64: okay, sorry.10:28
lexvegasTurd, is it on its own partition?10:28
DannyButtermanTurd: well how many partitions do you have ? Regardless of that, any resizing on a live partition must be done from a live CD10:28
DannyButtermananthropos: could you have a look on my crash report ?10:29
Turdi have vista and unbuntu 11.1010:29
MonkeyDustTurd  in a Terminal, type sudo fdisk -l -- use pastebin to show it to the channel10:29
ikoniaTurd: you can make them any size you want as long as you have physical disk space10:30
Turdhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/905373/10:31
sacarlsonlexvegas: not recognized as a drive?  is it seen on another system?  maybe it's just not formated10:31
jonyhave any channel in spanish gnome?10:31
lexvegassardonyx, It is EXT4, so Windows won't mount it. it mounts when plugged directly into ubuntu. I can also se the "unrecognized" partition in the device manager10:32
Ben64Turd: where is your linux partition?10:32
Turdon 510:32
Ben64it says ntfs10:33
sacarlsonlexvegas: if your virtualhost is windows then it will need 3rd party software to read ext4 patitions10:33
MonkeyDustTurd  linux is to be installed on ext410:33
Yup2#gnome-hispano- Canal de GNOME en lengua castellana / GNOME channel in Spanish language - GNOME Hispano (http://www.es.gnome.org/)10:33
DMJCok, I need help with dkms10:33
jonythanks Yup210:34
Yup2np10:34
DMJCI've never had to use it before on ubuntu10:34
OerHeksTurd did you use Wubi to install Ubuntu inside windows ?10:34
lexvegassacarlson, does Windows need to be able to read it? I was thinking that it would just be able to pass it through to Ubuntu10:34
DMJCwhere does the driver source need to go?10:34
Turdyes i did10:34
Yup2http://www.es.gnome.org/Participa?action=show&redirect=Contacto10:34
Turdis that bad ..10:34
Yup2(canal #gnome-hispano en irc.gnome.org)10:34
Yup2no problem10:34
sacarlsonlexvegas: ya you might be right if your running virtualbox in windows and ubuntu is the virtual it should work,  I've never done it10:35
jony:D not any people in this channel10:35
Yup2im not sure if irc.gnome.org is the same server as irc.freenode.net10:35
lexvegassacarlson, thanks for the help! I'm still tinkering with it10:36
MonkeyDustTurd  wubi is only a pseudo-installation, to try out Ubuntu10:36
ikoniait's not10:36
jonyajam, ok Yup2, thanks friend10:36
Yup2there is many people in it10:36
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Yup2- /server irc.gnome.org - /join #gnome-hispano10:37
OerHeksTurd not bad, but it is hard to increase that 30 gb.10:38
jonyyes, i came in10:38
Yup2ok cool10:38
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urgodfatheranyone nifty with lirc?10:44
ikoniaoops10:44
morrilol wut?10:44
urgodfatheranyone nifty with lirc?10:45
ikoniaurgodfather: as in the irda remote controll service ?10:45
urgodfatherikonia: yeah10:46
ikoniaurgodfather: I used to use it a lot with mythtv, not done it for a while, what's up10:46
Dan_EWhat is the best way to remove old kernels10:46
sacarlsonurgodfather: I use my android phone as a remote now with VLC, if you fail to get lirc working10:46
ikoniaDan_E: open the package manager, remove the old package10:46
urgodfatherikonia: i have a creative ir setup with rm 1500 remote... i can get it to register with irw in terminal but cant get it to do anything else10:47
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ikoniaurgodfather: what are you trying to get it to do ?10:47
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urgodfathersacarlson: yeah i was doing that too with my htpc but wifi kills battery10:47
maariiain espanish plis10:47
Dan_EI am using 3.0.0.17. Can anything under that be removed?10:48
ikoniaDan_E: sure10:48
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pw-toxichi, i'd like to add this: ppa:rabbitvcs/ppa   how can i do it? i want to install rabbitvcs10:48
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sacarlsonurgodfather: I'm not sure how much power used on wifi,  It runs for about 3 or more days 24/7 without a charge10:48
mrcellfizhhello i need a command to give permissions to this folder /host thanks10:49
urgodfathersacarlson: i know what you mean but... free ir remote... much easier... plus im about to reflash my phone10:49
pw-toxicikonia, i cant find a documentation how I can add this alternative software10:50
urgodfathersacarlson: what software do u use for htpc? mythtv? xbmc?10:50
ikoniapw-toxic: the documentation is listed in link you've been10:50
sacarlsonurgodfather: I also have a ir remote on an old tv card but havn't used it since 2008  ubunt 8.0410:50
urgodfathersacarlson: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=92294410:51
urgodfatherthats what i am following10:51
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pw-toxicah this is what i am looking for ;)10:51
mrcellfizhhey!10:52
urgodfathersacarlson: i can get it to show keypress's in the ir prog and with irw like in that thread10:52
urgodfatherbut thats where i am stuck at10:52
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mrcellfizhwtf nobody can help me?10:55
ikoniamrcellfizh: tone it down please.10:55
urgodfathermrcellfizh: whats ur problem?10:55
wayne__is there some chinese?10:55
urgodfatherikonia: dont boot me for playing with the bot10:56
ikoniaurgodfather: I've not, but if you need to play with it, use a pm10:56
mrcellfizhi need to give permissions to a folder so transmission dont tell me permission denied10:56
mrcellfizhits /host/Downloads10:56
urgodfatherikonia: thanks.. ill quit... just curious how "smart" it was10:56
urgodfathermrcellfizh: open a terminal10:57
mrcellfizhdone10:57
urgodfathernavigate to that directory10:57
mrcellfizhdone10:57
urgodfatherchmod 0755 the file10:57
urgodfatherhold on10:58
urgodfatherikonia: confirm?10:58
mrcellfizhnot the file, the entire folder is what i need10:58
Myrttimrcellfizh: getting the permissions right depends on the case. Is this a mounted drive, network share?10:58
Myrttimrcellfizh: or just a directory in your system?10:58
urgodfathermrcellfizh: what kind of permisssions do u neec10:58
mrcellfizhmounted drive, is where ubuntu put c:\ when you install it from webui10:59
sacarlsonmrcellfizh: try man chmod  and man chown;   if the file system is ntfs then there may be other complications10:59
urgodfathersacarlson: sounds like it will be ntfs11:00
mrcellfizhyeah its ntfs, as i said, its windows's C directory11:00
urgodfathermrcellfizh: which folders are you trying to get access to in the windows partition?11:00
mrcellfizhc:/Downloads11:01
urgodfathermrcellfizh: also, was there a reason y u chose to use the wubi installer>11:01
sacarlsonurgodfather: then I think there is a way  to change /etc/fstab for that mount to be forced to a user name needed11:01
mrcellfizhyes, because it is easies to uninstall11:02
mrcellfizheasier*11:02
urgodfathersacarlson: thats what i was just about to say11:02
sacarlsonmrcellfizh: oh it's wubi then I have no idea11:02
mrcellfizhbut whats the difference? its just a folder...11:03
urgodfathermrcellfizh: create a separate partition... make logical extended... then make ur sub partitions within i.e. ext3 for / and swap11:03
urgodfatherto uninstall... format11:04
sacarlsonmrcellfizh: wubi is more like a virtual mounted system mounted from within another file system,  it's over my head11:04
mrcellfizhso you're telling me right now windows is loaded? and i'm on a virtual machine?11:04
urgodfathermrcellfizh: no11:05
mrcellfizhsounds like inception to me11:05
urgodfathermrcellfizh: lol11:05
mrcellfizhthe thing is, i gave this partition 17GB, i could change the download partition but if i'm going to download something big...11:06
urgodfathermrcellfizh: wubi tricks the  pc into thinking that ubuntu is installed on a partition when really... this nonexisting partition is really a file... equal to an iso intheory11:06
mrcellfizhoh i get it11:07
urgodfathermrcellfizh: how many partitions do u have on the drive?11:07
mrcellfizhnone11:07
urgodfathermrcellfizh: you have one at least11:07
mrcellfizhof course11:07
urgodfathermr11:08
urgodfathermrcellfizh: in my experience... wubi is a disaster waiting to happen11:08
urgodfathermrcellfizh: much better to have a native install11:08
urgodfatheri will walk you thru if u want11:09
mrcellfizhi know how to make one but i find this more easy to handle a possible failure11:09
mrcellfizhi tried changing permission with nautilus but nothing happened11:10
urgodfathermrcellfizh: im not sure... but i think there could be problems with making fstab force mount/unmount at login/out11:10
mrcellfizhnow you're talking chinese to me11:11
urgodfathermrcellfizh: !fstab11:12
urgodfather!fstab11:12
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urgodfathermrcellfizh: there11:12
mrcellfizhoki, thanks for your help, i'll try to download my stuff into an external harddrive11:13
mrcellfizhi don't want to read that thing, i'm just an user, why do they complicate things that much...11:13
mrcellfizhanyway, thanks for your help11:13
urgodfathermrcellfizh: im sure theres a tutorial to create a true dual boot to do what you want11:14
foobArrrcan I make all the :i386 packages not show up in synaptic?11:14
urgodfathermrcellfizh: brb11:14
wayne__hi there !11:15
mrcellfizhwell the thing is, i've been to days installing programs, akins etc, i don't want to do it all over again11:15
wayne__怎么都是英语?11:17
urgodfathermrcellfizh: on ubuntu?11:18
urgodfatherwayne | !ch11:18
mrcellfizhurgodfather: i have a question, if i can save stuff through ubuntu, in /host folder, using the guy, why a program cant do it?11:18
TwoGunsAndADing!cn 怎么都是英语?11:18
mrcellfizhgui*11:18
wayne__11:18
urgodfathermrcellfizh: what do you mean?11:19
urgodfathermrcellfizh: why cant u see it in windows?11:19
mrcellfizhi mean, if i want, right nw i can cut an image from desktop, go to /host and paste it right there11:19
urgodfatheryeah11:19
mrcellfizhwhy if i can do it, a program cant?11:19
TwoGunsAndADing我不知道11:19
TwoGunsAndADing在英國的Ubuntu?11:20
urgodfatherwhat cant it?11:20
urgodfatherwhy?11:20
urgodfatheri mean11:20
mrcellfizhsave a file into that folder11:20
urgodfatheris there an error?11:20
mrcellfizhhost/downloads11:20
mrcellfizhyeah,transmission is saying: permission denied11:20
szal!cn | TwoGunsAndADing11:21
Drajwerhello. how do I fix this error ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/905443/11:21
ubottuTwoGunsAndADing: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw11:21
urgodfatherDrajwer: sudo apt-get install libc611:22
Drajweroh well its installed11:22
Drajwerand the same version apt says its not11:22
urgodfathermrcellfizh: could be related to the wubi thing11:23
dagerivHow can I press SHIFT+Alt+X M? I am pressing all those keys but apparantly it does not work11:23
mrcellfizhbut just yesterday i was downloading things through transmission, i also download things in chrome, directly into that folder11:23
ie_ciao11:23
urgodfathermrcellfizh: i really recommend making a partition and reinstalling the traditional  way11:23
mrcellfizhoki, thanks.11:24
urgodfathermrcellfizh: i dunno bro11:24
mrcellfizhthanks for your help tho11:24
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urgodfatherDrajwer: got it fixed?11:24
Drajwernope urgodfather11:24
Drajwerim not going to remove and install libc6 because it will break my desktop11:24
urgodfathersudo apt-get update11:24
urgodfatherapt-get upgrade11:25
Angeldust76list11:25
Drajwernope urgodfather11:25
urgodfatherdo those two11:25
Drajwertried it already several times11:25
mrcellfizhurgodfather, i'll switch torrent client u.u11:26
urgodfatherDrajwer: might need to do a dist upgrade... dont remember the command im thinking of11:26
sacarlsonDrajwer: some ppa installed?11:26
urgodfathermrcellfizh: that might work11:26
Drajwersacarlson: nope, just the google chrome repo if that matters11:26
Drajweri am avoiding ppas11:26
urgodfathermrcellfizh: at least around the problem11:27
urgodfatherDrajwer: avoiding ppas? why?11:27
mrcellfizhthe funny thing is, yesterday i was downloading things11:27
mrcellfizhwith it, and today it says it11:27
mrcellfizhthis*11:27
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mrcellfizhanyway, there's other people who need your help11:27
urgodfathermrcellfizh: is it full?11:27
DrajwerI have 10.04 LTS for a reason. ppas are peoples compilations and I am afraid they will break my OS.11:28
mrcellfizhfull? you mean the harddisk?11:28
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urgodfathermrcellfizh: im not a pro.. just another user helping wiere i can11:28
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urgodfatherDrajwer: fair enough11:29
sacarlsonDrajwer: you did remember to sudo apt-get update; didn't you?11:29
mrcellfizhwell11:29
mrcellfizhcya11:29
mrcellfizhbye11:29
urgodfathersacarlson: yeah11:29
urgodfatherDrajwer: try to clean first11:29
Angeldust76#join /ubuntu-fr11:29
Drajwer'apt-get update' and 'apt-get upgrade' are not the greatest fixes for all problems11:29
Drajwerand in my case they obviously does not work11:30
sacarlsonDrajwer: apt-get update; is an absolute nessesity if you haven't installed anything in more than 2 days11:30
DrajwerI agree11:31
Drajwerbut my apt is broken11:31
Drajwerand apt-get update wont fix it11:31
sacarlsonDrajwer: ok got it then11:31
sacarlsonDrajwer: and I assume you mean didn't fix it in past tensce11:31
szalDrajwer: how is it broken?11:32
Drajwerhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/905443/ szal11:32
szalDrajwer: that's not apt being broken11:33
Drajwerofcourse it is11:33
Drajwerassuming libc6 is already installed11:33
sacarlsonDrajwer: I looked back a ways but didn't see what version of ubuntu your running and also we should get a pastebin of your /etc/apt/sources.list11:33
ikoniaDrajwer: that suggests you've got conflicting repos11:34
ikoniaDrajwer: got any PPA's enabled11:34
ikoniaDrajwer: that's not apt being broken11:34
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sacarlsonDrajwer: agree with ikonia: on that as the sources.list should point out if so11:35
urgodfatherDrajwer: do sudo apt-get upgrade libc611:35
ikoniaDrajwer: do not do what urgodfather has suggestd11:35
urgodfathernot -dbg11:35
Drajwerhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/905460/11:35
urgodfatherikonia: why not?11:35
ikoniaurgodfather: why would he want to upgrade the core c libraray of his system to a version that may be causing a conflict11:35
Drajwerhere is my sources.list, and I am running Ubuntu 10.04.3 LTS x64.11:36
ikoniaDrajwer: anything in /etc/apt/sources.list.d ?11:36
Drajwerapt-build, and google-chrome11:36
urgodfatherikonia: i thought the conflict was he's stil using an old library11:36
ikoniaDrajwer: apt-build maybe the issue11:36
ikoniaDrajwer: what's in that PPA ?11:36
ikoniaDrajwer: does it pull down a different libc version with any of the packages ?11:37
Drajwernope, removed the apt-build repo from the directory you mentioned and still the same issue11:38
Drajwerand I am sure it was not colliding11:38
ikoniaDrajwer: you can't just remove it11:38
ikoniaDrajwer: if something has been installed from a repo, removing the repo doesn't change the packages that are installed11:39
ikoniaDrajwer: how are you sure ?11:39
sacarlsonDrajwer: ikonia: maybe if he changes his repository server to another location?  like japan or something11:39
Drajwerit was just for the apt-build tool11:39
ikoniaDrajwer: but what does that depend on ?11:39
ikoniasacarlson: I can't see that being the problem as the version differences are too great for a minor upgrade not being synced to a repo11:40
Drajweranyway this tool is not installed11:40
ikoniasacarlson: I see it more likley as an external repo having that size a change11:40
ikoniaDrajwer: again, it doesn't matter what's installed now11:40
ikoniaDrajwer: it matters what has been installed11:40
ikoniathe package manager gets updated with version information when you install things, if you then remove those repos it doens't change what is in that information11:40
Drajwerfun fact: I have libc6 with exact version as apt-get says, so why it might be a collision ?11:40
ikoniaDrajwer: which version of libc is on your system ?11:41
Drajwer2.11.1-0ubuntu7.811:41
ikoniaDrajwer: right, and it WANTS 2.11.1-0ubuntu711:41
ikonianot 2.11.1-0ubuntu7.811:41
ikoniaso you HAVE a conflict11:42
ikonia!info libc lucid11:42
ubottuPackage libc does not exist in lucid11:42
Drajwerso why the hell it happened11:42
ikonia!info libc6 lucid11:42
ubottulibc6 (source: eglibc): Embedded GNU C Library: Shared libraries. In component main, is required. Version 2.11.1-0ubuntu7.10 (lucid), package size 3801 kB, installed size 9368 kB11:42
ikoniaDrajwer: probably because the conflicting version got pulled in from an external repo11:42
Drajwercant i just downgrade it with apt?11:43
ikoniaDrajwer: doubtful, but you are welcome to try11:43
Drajwercant 'install --reinstall' removing is not a case because it will break things11:43
DrajwerI am seriously considering CentOS 6.2 which is supported till 201711:44
ikoniaDrajwer: ok, use centos then11:44
ikoniaDrajwer: you'll have the same problems with Centos if you can't manage your yum repositories11:44
Drajwerno no its linux so the reinstall is not a fix11:44
ikoniaDrajwer: I didn't say it was, you said you wanted to use centos11:44
ikoniaI don't care which distro you use11:45
Drajwerin some future after 10.04 LTS will not be supported anymore11:45
ikoniaDrajwer: it will be supported for 5 years after 04 201011:45
ikoniaDrajwer: the new lts will be supported for 5 years after 04 201211:45
Ben64isn't 10.04 on 3/5 year still11:46
DrajwerI personally prefer gnome2 over unity, gnome3 etc so it might be the last ubuntu desktop11:46
ikoniaDrajwer: great, again, I don't care which distro you use11:46
Drajwerok. lets start from the beggining11:47
sacarlsonDrajwer: I may be mistaken but if he has libc6 2.11.1-0ubuntu7.8  and lucid supports libc6 2.11.1-0ubuntu7.10 , doesn't that mean that his install app is asking for something too old?11:47
ikoniasacarlson: correct11:47
Drajwersacarlson: im wondering too11:48
pideranyone got a solution on this problem: "wifi disabled by hardware switch Dell Inspiron 1018", I've google it and installed new driver, but still same problem_11:48
ikonia!info libc6-dbg11:48
sacarlsonikonia: and not that he has installed an incorect libc6 already11:48
ubottulibc6-dbg (source: eglibc): Embedded GNU C Library: detached debugging symbols. In component main, is extra. Version 2.13-20ubuntu5.1 (oneiric), package size 6022 kB, installed size 47956 kB11:48
ikoniasacarlson: I don't think his installed libc is incorrect, there is a conflict between his installed version and what the debug package wants11:48
red-dragoncheers.. i'm using backtrack =)11:49
ikonia!info libc6-dbg lucid11:49
ubottulibc6-dbg (source: eglibc): Embedded GNU C Library: detached debugging symbols. In component main, is extra. Version 2.11.1-0ubuntu7.10 (lucid), package size 16449 kB, installed size 54660 kB11:49
DrajwerI am not user of ppas, neither other repositories11:49
ikoniaDrajwer: although you have 2 ppas on your system11:49
ikoniaDrajwer: pretty hard to say "I don't use them" when you've just shown you have 2 on your system11:50
sacarlsonikonia: so to see what he has installed wouldn't  uname -a or what's that other command to verify what it thinks it is?11:50
DrajwerI dont think google-chrome could break my libc611:50
Ben64i'm running lucid, and libc6-dbg is  2.11.1-0ubuntu7.1011:50
ikoniaDrajwer: I didn't say it would, but you can't say that without checking11:50
Drajwerwhen 7.10 is the new one ubottu tells11:50
Ben64doesn't want me to downgrade anything11:50
ikoniaDrajwer: and you are saying "I don't use things" when you do11:50
Drajwerwhen I have 7.8 it going to be upgraded right?11:50
ikoniaBen64: yeah, debug is at 7.10 is it stands to reason it would want libc6 at 7.10 also11:51
Ben64i'm guessing its a repository problem, because mine is working fine11:51
ikoniaBen64: I can't see it being a repo problem because debug is at the correct version, so libc should also be at the same version11:51
ikoniagive it a try though, it maybe an easy fix11:51
cristian_cHi11:52
cristian_cI can not find the channel of the headphones in alsamixer11:52
cristian_cI'm using Oneiric11:52
sacarlsonBen64: we have a list of his repository already http://paste.ubuntu.com/905460/ ; I haven't seen the source.list.d yet maybe we should also see that?11:52
ikoniaor manually look in the repo URL you are using and see what's there11:52
cristian_cI can not adjust the volume of headphones individually11:53
Ben64his sources.list is all pl.archive.ubuntu11:53
cristian_chow can I fix it?11:53
Ben64deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu lucid-updates main restricted universe multiverse11:53
Ben64mine are just archive.ubuntu11:53
Drajwersources.list.d is a repository for google chrome and I think google does not want me to break my packages11:53
sacarlsonikonia: Drajwer: I think it's still worth try another repository not pl...  but us.  or japan11:54
Drajwerby injecting old libc611:54
ikoniasacarlson: give it a go11:54
DarsVaedacan you get unity to have/display bigger border touch areas?11:54
DarsVaedait is really hard to resize windows11:54
ikoniaDrajwer: you said it had more than google chrome in before11:54
DarsVaedaI mean difficult11:54
ikoniaDrajwer: please stop changing your mind to what you think we want to hear and just give is the real info11:54
Drajwerok, there was also apt-build repo which I removed now11:55
Drajwerand it was not the case too11:55
sacarlsonDrajwer: try repository japan or us , it will only take 3 minits to try11:56
bastidrazorDarsVaeda: hold alt then middle click the window and drag. that allows resizing11:56
Drajwersacarlson: nope, switched to jp and still the same11:56
DarsVaedaahh thanks thats helpful11:56
sacarlsonDrajwer: crap,  and did apt-get update; I"m sure?11:57
Drajweryes11:57
sacarlsonDrajwer: purge-ppa ?  not sure you need the original list in teh repository list to run it11:57
jfklscmlciocvnchow can i join other room?11:58
cristian_can other question:11:59
sacarlsonjfklscmlciocvnc: /join #freenode12:00
jfklscmlciocvncthanks12:00
cristian_cI can finally trigger the LED of the wireless button, substantially if I press it, it switchs from blue to red and from red to blue12:01
cristian_cI use echo none > "/sys/class/leds/ath5k-phy0::tx/trigger"12:01
cristian_cand echo phy0radio > "/sys/class/leds/ath5k-phy0::rx/trigger"12:02
cristian_cbut also other combinations work12:02
cristian_cBut the problem is that the colors are inverted for the wifi on / off. I add that I tried to enter the commands in rc.local, to use a script, but the result is always the same12:03
cristian_cI wanted to know if there was a way to invert the colors12:04
cristian_cAny ideas?12:04
sacarlsoncristian_c: maybe add in post connect in /etc/network/interfaces but that I guess would overide network-manager12:05
maniac360hi all12:05
Drajwersacarlson: fixed it12:07
Drajweraptitude install libc6=2.11.1-0ubuntu712:07
Drajwernothing bad happens ( yet ) and libc6-dbg is installed12:07
maniac360I recently install atftpd-server and I get Invalid IP problem, I dont know what the problem is, My IP seems right, anyone have an idea?I use debian squeez its for a pxe server12:07
sacarlsonDrajwer: I didn't know aptitude had that option12:08
cristian_csacarlson, thanks for the answer :)12:08
Drajwerapt-get has this option too I suppose12:08
cristian_csacarlson, I do not know how to reverse the colors to the LED12:09
sacarlsonDrajwer: did you upgrade to lucid or did you install it direct from a livecd ?12:09
Drajwerlivecd12:10
cristian_csacarlson, i.e, red off, blue on12:10
sacarlsoncristian_c: I thought those commands you gave have control to set what you want, if so just set to desired color after connected12:10
sacarlsoncristian_c: sounds like a bug in the driver that must play with them12:11
jellowHi there ubuntu does not pick my wireless device Broadcom Corporation Device 4358 ?12:12
bazhang!broadcom | jellow have a read12:12
ubottujellow have a read: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx12:12
cristian_csacarlson, what do you recommend? :)12:12
sacarlsonDrajwer: but if that works that still doesn't explain why your repositories don't have the supported version for lucid12:13
jellowbazhang,  b43-fwcutter says it cannot not extract the firmware because of md5sum not matching up12:14
Drajwermaybe the irc bot checks 10.04.412:14
DrajwerI have 10.04.312:14
sacarlsonDrajwer: oh you think the bot was incorect I'll check the website12:14
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valentin_nicolas?12:16
sacarlsonDrajwer: no shows the same here http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/libc6  as  2.11.1-0ubuntu7.10  so both the repositories you tried are incomplete12:16
DrajwerE: Version '2.11.1-0ubuntu7.10' for 'libc6' was not found12:18
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f3ck4rohayo gozaimasu!12:18
PiciDrajwer: Do you have the security or updates repositories enabled?12:19
AcidRainmy home folder claims to be at 64gig used disk space. which is 100%. just yesturday i had 40gig free. can anyone expalain this?12:19
cristian_csacarlson, ie if you touch the interfaces file, or do anything else12:19
PiciDrajwer: 2.11.1-0ubuntu7 is in lucid main, 2.11.1-0ubuntu7.10 is in lucid-updates and lucid-security12:19
Drajwerthanks12:20
PiciDrajwer: http://paste.ubuntu.com/905498/12:20
sacarlsonDrajwer: I have lucid on another partition I can boot it and verify that libc6-dev is or is not missing if I reboot12:20
valentin_oh12:20
valentin_!12:20
sacarlsonDrajwer: oh I forgot I have the 32bit version of lucid do no sense to try12:22
gorskiflash crashed chromium and firefox, any help?12:22
Drajwerenabled lucid-security and lucid-updates hoping nothing will break after upgrade12:22
acidrain_please someone, i need help. my system is saying its at 100% full on disk space12:23
acidrain_does this mean my drives are about to fail?12:23
sacarlsonDrajwer: oh it looks like your missing security in your sources.list12:23
acidrain_how can i copy everything from my hdd?12:23
jribacidrain_: just means they're full, no?12:23
acidrain_i need to back up now12:23
DMJCI am about ready to uninstall ubuntu12:23
DMJCit won't build dkms package12:24
acidrain_jrib: but its an 80gig hdd. ive had it in use for about 2 months. yesturday it was at 50gig free space12:24
DMJCit's complaining about filename-v00.00.6blah12:24
DMJCnot starting with a number12:24
jellowIs it possible that there is no support at all for BCM driver 4358 ?12:24
jribacidrain_: well check what's using the space now12:24
DMJCwon't convert rpm to .deb12:24
DMJCit's useless12:24
jribDMJC: be more specific; don't use enter as punctuation; don't convert rpm to deb12:24
acidrain_jrib: it says its my home directory, but when i look at my home directories subdirectories, none of them equal the 67gigs it claims to be using12:25
DMJCI am trying to install an Intel SAS controller12:25
cristian_csacarlson, the doubt is just that12:25
DMJCthe driver comes as .rpm files, or as a tarball of source12:25
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DMJCdkms will not install the tarball, it complains about an image of some kind. I'm trying to install the rpm packages but it just complains about the version numbers starting with a letter and bombs out12:25
jribDMJC: you're still using enter as punctuation.  Take a few minutes to state your issue on a single line with details (if you need more space for things like errors and commands, use a pastebin)12:25
sacarlsoncristian_c: I recomend not messing with it just adjust to it maybe submit a bug report, learn to live with it for now till it's fixed or fix it yourself12:26
acidrain_jrib: what should i do? im pretty sure the disk usage analysis program that comes with ubuntu has to by lying to me12:26
acidrain_nothing is using as much space as is claims to be12:26
jribacidrain_: how are you checking?  What's the output of df -h?12:26
valentin_NIcola?12:27
valentin_!!!712:27
valentin_412:27
valentin_loool12:27
acidrain_jrib: i had to shut it down because i was afraid something was about to fry because it was moving so slow with 8gig of ram and a quad core12:27
valentin_loool12:27
acidrain_what will df -h do?12:27
jribacidrain_: boot a live cd12:27
acidrain_jrib: now when you say a live cd. u mean the "try ubuntu instead of install" right?12:28
MonkeyDustacidrain_  computers are machines, thay don't lie12:29
MonkeyDustthey*12:29
acidrain_im pretty sure this is a hack that has filled my system12:29
Drajwerhdd going to be broken ? boot off live cd and dd_rescue it12:29
MonkeyDustacidrain_  in a Terminal, type df -h12:30
speakmanThe flashplayer-installer update earlier today has ruined any flash content! What's going on?12:30
acidrain_MonkeyDust: hang on, im going to try to boot it back up12:30
acidrain_there is alot of strain on my system12:30
MonkeyDustacidrain_  if it's a hack that has acces, then all the linux blogs worldwide will report it12:30
cristian_csacarlson, ok, then I'll report the bug, because I have not found a report on launchpad12:30
cristian_csacarlson, thancks for the support :)12:30
cristian_c*thanks12:31
acidrain_MonkeyDust: ok check this out dude! it says of total of 71gig. i have 8.16gig used!12:32
acidrain_how can it be full?!!?12:32
MonkeyDustfull?12:32
jribacidrain_: yes, by "live cd" I mean "try ubuntu" option12:32
jribacidrain_: pastebin the output of « df -h »12:32
MonkeyDust8/71 gb is not "full", is it?12:32
acidrain_pastebin.com/zpJbNATK12:33
acidrain_http://pastebin.com/zpJbNATK12:34
acidrain_sry, clickable link12:34
jribacidrain_: where exactly do you see the message about a hard drive being full?12:34
valentin_m12:34
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MonkeyDustacidrain_  i'm not getting it, you have plenty space left, what's the prob?12:35
acidrain_jrib: the message is gone right now. but before i rebooted, i would get a popup message on my system that says "This computer has 0bytes remaining." then i had the options to Examine, Ignore12:35
cristian_csacarlson, one last thing: it's a good idea to report on launchpad?12:35
acidrain_right! thats what im not getting12:35
jribacidrain_: did you examine?12:35
jellowHi there how can I find out the exact model of my wireless card?12:35
acidrain_jrib: yes, and it opened the ubuntu disk analysis application12:35
acidrain_and it said it had used 71gig of 71gig12:35
acidrain_with 0bytes left12:35
jribacidrain_: if it happens again, come back without closing anything12:36
acidrain_jrib: ... yes sir... this is crazy dude12:36
acidrain_it should happen again soon. because i restarted yesturday, and the first message that popped up on my system was the same one!12:36
acidrain_this is blowing my mind. in case of a possible hdd failure is about to happen, im goig to backup right now12:36
DMJCok, are the intel LSI based raid controllers the same as the LSI raid controllers?12:37
valentin_pffff12:38
farsight-xfhello everyone12:38
valentin_oulla12:38
rensI've tried to configure an Ubuntu 11 server for authentication using pam_ldap... the /etc/ldap.conf file is correctly afaik, what should I look for besides configuring /etc/ldap.conf & /etc/nsswitch.conf to get my LDAP visible when I do a 'getent passwd' ?12:38
valentin_...12:38
valentin_.12:38
cristian_csacarlson, because you wrote: 'maybe'12:39
farsight-xfI have a problem? the android mapview is failed12:39
marios__Last time I had to setup LDAP, it was with active directory - so /etc/krb5.conf needed some editing12:39
sacarlsoncristian_c: sure why not , just be sure to provide all the info12:40
farsight-xfhas anyone is success?12:40
marios__Oh, and /etc/pam.d too12:40
JeanMconnect12:41
JeanMoups!12:41
valentin_.12:41
sacarlsoncristian_c: maybe is just a mater of personal preference what color the light should be when active?12:41
rensmarios__: I already set the PAM files, but that shouldn't be required for just listing the users right?12:41
cristian_csacarlson, you are right, but I had to give commands because the LED was flashing, the bug there is howewer12:43
cristian_c*however12:43
cristian_c*blinking12:44
cristian_cok, I'll report it :)12:45
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Avornturhi, does anyone here know how I can change the default (terminal) keyboard layout?12:46
captainjamieWhen I start epiphany-browser it doesn't run but when I sudo epiphany-browser it does. Any ideas? Terminal output isn't very helpful, it just says timeout reached. I've also completely removed and reinstalled all related packages with synaptic...12:47
Myrtticaptainjamie: have you set a root account password?12:47
captainjamieyes12:47
ikoniaughhh12:48
Myrtticaptainjamie: that might be the reason, setting it and using it does make some settings go absolutely bonkers.12:48
ikoniawhy set a root password ?12:48
ikoniathat's the whole point of the sudo setup12:48
captainjamiemaybe I don't have a root password then12:48
Shojolol12:48
ikonia......right, a minute ago you said you set one12:49
sacarlsonAvorntur: maybe keyboard mapping https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaKeys12:49
Shojoikonia: better explain what it is... he doesnt know12:49
captainjamieI have a password when I type sudo it asks for a password and I put one in12:49
Myrtticaptainjamie: that's not a root password12:49
captainjamieWell, no then12:49
ikoniaI'll go back to reading12:49
Shojothat works too12:49
MyrttiShojo: usually when you ask "have you set a root password" the answer is either "yes I have" or "what's that"12:50
ShojoMyrtti: liek statistics?12:50
Shojolike*12:50
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dhpls12:51
jatiHi ubuntu¡¡12:52
jatidoes anybody test ubuntu in a Samsung np530 14' laptop?12:52
captainjamieso any ideas then? If I haven't set a "root password"12:53
joeliostrange issue on precise.. seem to have lost my ability to alt-tab and some other shortcuts (although custom ones work)12:56
Shojocaptainjamie: got it, but i wasn't here when u asked your question, you might ask me in PM.12:56
Myrttijoelio: try #ubuntu+112:57
joelioMyrtti: ok12:58
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Linux4UnMeevening13:00
It_2927Hey Linux4UnMe13:00
Linux4UnMeIt_2927:  howz it goin13:01
It_2927not bad here13:01
It_2927you?13:01
hubsingerwhat is the system user "backup" used for in a 10.04 server installation / is it ok to give him a smbpasswd ?13:01
Linux4UnMeIt_2927:  lol, tipsy and tired13:01
It_2927Lmao are you Linux4UnMe off youtube?13:01
Linux4UnMebrings new meaning to 'tnt' eh o-013:01
It_2927:P13:01
Linux4UnMeIt_2927:  yeah13:01
It_2927Cool :P13:02
Linux4UnMei was bored.... so thought i'de drop by and see whats goin on13:02
Linux4UnMesince my channel is dead atm. lol13:02
It_2927aww13:02
It_2927i'll sub :P13:02
Linux4UnMelol.13:02
Linux4UnMei meant my irc channel13:02
It_2927oh lmao13:03
dellLinux4UnMe: pm me the channel13:03
Pici!offtopic13:03
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!13:03
Linux4UnMedell:  sure.... well... it's just my exact nick13:03
gorskiflash plugin crashed, it won't start anymore (firefox and chromium)13:04
troulouliou_devhi what is the official  procedure to add french spelling and grammar in Libreoffice installed on English OS ?13:07
jpdstroulouliou_dev: Open Language Support, install French language support.13:08
troulouliou_devjpds, through apt / synaptic or from libreoffice13:08
jpdstroulouliou_dev: "Language Support" is the name of the application.13:09
troulouliou_devjpds, i want to keep ubuntu in english , i just want to have the french dictionary in Libreoffice13:09
deiconanthropos: do you have a usb?13:09
jpdstroulouliou_dev: Installing a language support pack, doesn't mean changing the language for the whole system.13:10
troulouliou_devjpds, ok so this isn't an aspell issue then ?13:11
jpdstroulouliou_dev: Probably not.13:11
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yogsterIs it possible to run OSX programs like Pro tools 9 on ubuntu13:15
fidelyogster: most likely not ;)13:17
yogsterarent there emulators?13:17
fideli dont know of any wine-like attempt for that13:18
yogster:/13:18
yogsteralso13:18
yogsterI have a soundcard from MOTU13:18
yogsteri found drivers for it for windows13:18
yogsterfor osx13:18
yogsterbut not for linux13:18
yogsterwhat do i do?13:18
FloodBot1yogster: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.13:19
fidelin the worst case scenario - use the MS driver13:19
yogsteri can use the MS driver for it?13:19
yogsteron liinux13:19
fidelits possible yes - but for sure not perfect13:19
zykotick9yogster: no.  fidel just gave you bad advice.13:19
fidelzykotick9: regarding?13:20
It_2927finally the zykotick returns13:20
It_2927:D13:20
yogsterzykotick9 could you elaborate?13:20
zykotick9fidel: you can't use a ms driver for a soundcard.  yogster13:20
fidelzykotick9: i used windows driver in linux i.e. for network cards13:20
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zykotick9fidel: network, yes - with ndiswrapper13:21
fidelndsiwrapper might be the keyword - or am i really wrong here?13:21
yogsterzykotick9 can I use the windows driver for my MOTU traveller card?13:21
hubsingerwhat is the system user "backup" used for in a 10.04 server installation / is it ok to give him a smbpasswd ?13:21
yogsteron linux13:21
fidelzykotick9: why wouldnt that work for a sound-device? curious - havent done that much with ndiswrapper13:21
zykotick9yogster: Masters Of The Universe?13:21
yogsterzykotick9 pardon?13:22
zykotick9fidel: ndiswrapper is for NICs only13:22
fidelzykotick9: ok - thanks13:22
zykotick9yogster: MOTU? i have no idea what that is.13:22
Pici!motu | zykotick913:22
ubottuzykotick9: motu is short for Masters of the Universe. The brave souls who maintain the packages in the Universe section of Ubuntu. See  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU13:22
yogsterzykotick9 its a company that produces sound cards for musicians13:23
yogsterits an external card13:23
yogstervery expensive13:23
Picizykotick9: oh, in hindsight I guess thats not what you were looking for.13:23
Picizykotick9: sorry.13:23
zykotick9Pici: that motu i'm aware of ;)13:23
yogsterzykotick9 motu.com13:24
fidelyogster: how is that external sound card connected to your computer?13:24
zykotick9yogster: i have no idea about motu's gnu/linux support - best of luck13:25
yogsterzykotick9 do you know if I can run OSX programs like Pro Tools 9 on ubuntu?13:25
yogstercaues I dont have OSX :/13:25
zykotick9yogster: no you can't13:25
yogsterreally?13:26
yogsteri thought there has to be emulators like wine13:26
fidelyogster: i told you so ;)13:26
yogsterfidel its connected through FW13:26
zykotick9yogster: "emulator like wine" funny ;)13:26
fidelbest thing you can do regarding osy itself is breaking apples license and try to run it virtual or dig into the hackintosh corner - both ugly13:26
zykotick9yogster: Wine Is Not an Emulator13:26
yogsterzykotick9 sorry13:27
fidelboth ugly areas13:27
It_2927wine is a compatibility layer13:27
yogsterso how do i run pro tools 9 on linux?13:27
yogsteris it possible at all?13:27
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yogsterhow do i do that fidel?13:29
Piciyogster: its not on-topic for this channel, and a legal grey-area anyway.13:29
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yogsterPici ok13:29
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gvandeweyerI have a large (22TB) on a GPT/jfs formatted hard disk. After a reboot, I cannot mount it, with 'wrong fs, bad option, bad superblock,...,or other error' error.13:33
foobArrris there a easy way for batch printing? "print all pdfs in directory foo"?13:33
gvandeweyeranother jfs mounts fine. What are my options?13:34
pfifoikonia, thanks13:34
jribfoobArrr: yeah, use lpr13:34
foobArrrthx13:34
jati does anybody test ubuntu in a Samsung np530 14' laptop?13:34
zenithp0phello guys, i have a very big problem, i was copying a two .7z files from an external hd to my ubuntu and the power went off, and now i have spllited files, a portion on the external hd ad the rest on the ubuntu, what can i do?13:34
ikoniapfifo: for what ?13:34
yant238gvandeweyer: Presuming you've run fsck?13:35
pfifoikonia, the unban13:35
ikoniaI didn't do it, I assume one of the others did13:35
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pfifoikonia, is everything square then?13:35
lorimarhi there. i recently took over administration of a VERY old ubuntu server (5.04 hoary). apparently this server was created using lvm partitions and the root partition was given almost no space. we are planning on retiring this server in a few months, but i would like to add some more space to the root partition so we can continue using it until then.13:35
bsidhipozenith: why is that a problem?  Just copy it again :-p13:35
lorimarthere was extra space in the volume group that I've used to extend the root lvm partition, but now i need to resize the file system13:36
Seveaszenithp0p, when you mv a file, the old one does not get removed until the new one is done. At no point is part of the file removed because it was copied13:36
gvandeweyeryant238 : that's working right now13:36
ikoniapfifo: as long as you don't do silly lies again, I have zero issue13:36
gvandeweyerI'm already asking for possible follow up... :-)13:36
lorimartried doing this: "resize2fs /dev/vol/root", but I get a message that "/dev/vol/root is mounted; can't resize a mounted filesystem!"13:36
zenithp0pSeveas: oh ok, so i guess that the external hd file is the one that is COMPLETE13:36
yant238gvandeweyer: If fsck can't fix it, you're probably fucked13:36
bsidhipolorimar: you have to boot from another media.  try a live cd.13:36
Quantum_Ionhello guys, i have a very big problem, i was copying a two .7z files from an external hd to my ubuntu and the power went off, and now i have spllited files, a portion on the external hd ad the rest on the ubuntu, what can i do?13:37
Seveaslorimar, you need to use ext2online13:37
gvandeweyeryant238: ok, fingers crossed then13:37
zenithp0pSeveas: thank you13:37
Seveaszenithp0p, yeah13:37
gvandeweyeryant238: nice, fsck did fix it13:37
lorimarbsidhipo: that's what i was figuring. i had hoped there was a way to do it online13:38
zenithp0panother little question, wich version of ubuntu has a kernel that does not experiment regressions?13:38
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lorimarSeveas: don't think that is installed on here and the hoary repos don't appear to be online anymore13:39
thedonvaughnzenithp0p: ?13:39
Seveaslorimar, old-releases.ubuntu.com13:39
Seveaslorimar, http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/e/e2fsprogs/e2fsprogs_1.35-8ubuntu2_i386.deb seems to be the one for i38613:41
zenithp0pthedonvaughn: last kernels are known to cause power regressions, which means to incorrectly administer your battery. i know that some older kernels don't cause this problem, but i don't know which ones13:41
Seveasit's from march '0513:41
luqqhi13:42
luqqsmall question- Is there any way to run a script after all initscripts have finished?13:42
bsidhipoluqq: rc.local13:42
luqqi'm trying to start XBMC standalone which starts its own x server13:43
luqqoh13:43
luqqlets see13:43
zenithp0panyone any clue about the kernel regressions?13:43
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luqqholy smokes bsidhipo13:44
luqqits doing EXACTLY what i wanted13:44
luqqthanks a bunch!13:44
bsidhipolinux does exactly what you want ... imagine that :-)13:45
yant238zenithp0p: What specifically about them? The kernel experiences regressions, but Ubuntu doesn't usually introduce major new versions of the kernel in a Ubuntu release13:46
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smcgrath#pos13:47
lorimarSeveas: looks like i was able to install this, but i'm not certain it contained ext2online13:48
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bsidhipozenithp0p: arent' there other tweaks you can do to conserve power on laptops?  things like spinning down drives, mount with noatime, nodiratime, etc?  are you doing all this already besides worrying about kernel's pcie power mode?13:48
Avorntursacarlson: I meant not having to do "loadkeys dvorak" again after rebooting, I know it's possible because it works the way I want when I choose dvorak during installation13:48
Avorntursacarlson: I just don't want to reinstall the OS on this machine13:49
lorimarSeveas: think i'm going to have to go with an offline resize afterall13:49
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bsidhipoavorntur: "dpkg-reconfigure"13:50
thoreauputicSeveas: Good lord, you're still here! Hello...13:50
thedonvaughnzenithp0p: from what i understand the 3.3 patches that fixed the power regression has been backported to the newest kernels13:51
Avornturbsidhipo: Thank you, dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration seemed to do what I wanted13:54
bsidhipoavorntur: welcome.  ubuntu leaves out a lot of dpkg configurations during package installation.  i suppose it makes sense for the target users13:55
amigamiamorning13:56
amigamiai installed lamp and lastnight i was able to ssh into the server but this morning after restarting the server it wont let me ssh into it it is refusing me any reason why?13:56
bsidhipoamigamia: lots of reasons.  what have you done to troubleshoot?  is the server actually running (and not waiting at the prompt for disk check, for example)?  is it in runlevel3?  is openssh-server installed?  is ssh daemon running?13:58
amigamiait's next to me but let me check everything you just said. as far as daemon running anyway. brb thanks13:58
jribbsidhipo, amigamia: note default runlevel is 2 on ubuntu13:58
fidelamigamia: can you access that service pysically?13:58
fidel*server*13:58
amigamiafidel yes it is next to me on a server14:00
bsidhipoamigamia: if the server is on dhcp it might have been given a different IP ... check14:01
amigamiai just checked and ssh-agent process is running. i built this lastnight and i was ssh'd into  to install cURL last night. Ip hasnt changed. let me reboot it brb thanks.14:01
MetaphysicistHi guys, I have the SmartMonTools Script from the Ubuntu Community Page, you can see the code here: http://pastebin.com/h7S6y2RK - I am getting arithmetic errors on lines 29 and 31. Not sure where the error lies?14:01
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bsidhipoamigamia: in the words of No 2, "we want information!"14:02
amigamiaok i am reb ootin it now.14:02
Guest56671hello14:02
_MarcusHi Guest5667114:02
mouseWhat command do I use in the terminal to invoke key press events?14:02
_Marcusamigamia: So you checked the IP and it's still the same one that is forwarded, right?14:03
bsidhipomouse: for what purpose?14:03
amigamiamarcus yes i just rebooted and it has the correct ip or same ip address from lastnight.14:03
amigamialet me try now14:04
bsidhipoamigamia: does the SSH client say "connection refused" or does it just not connect successfully for other reasons?  (if so, try "ssh -v" to find out why)14:04
amigamiassh: connect to host 192.168.1.15 port 22: Connection refused14:04
MetaphysicistD/Ced there, anyone have any ideas?14:04
amigamiaok thanks14:04
bsidhipoamigamia: then there's nothing listening on 192.168.1.15 on port 2214:04
bsidhipoamigamia: (or there might be firewall)14:05
mwaterscan you ping the server???14:05
usr13amigamia: Run nmap against it and see.14:05
amigamiai can access apache on the server via url14:05
amigamiathanks14:05
usr13amigamia: nmap -p 22 192.168.1.1514:05
thoreauputicamigamia: try 'pgrep sshd' on the server if you have keyboard access14:05
amigamiaok thanks14:06
mousebsidhipo, I have a mouse with extra buttons and imwheel is kinda buggy so I'm just going to write a series of scripts for each button and make it so those are called when I press the extra mouse buttons.14:06
thoreauputicamigamia: See if sshd is running in other words14:06
bsidhipoamigamia: on the server, "ps axfuw | grep sshd"14:06
amigamiaok pgrep sshd on returned to the bash shell14:06
amigamiajsut a sec thanks14:06
thoreauputicamigamia: Sounds like sshd is not running14:07
MetaphysicistThe smartmontools script at the bottom of this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Smartmontools is yielding arithmetic errors on lines 29 and 31. Anyone have any idea as to why? Running this on Ubuntu 11.10.14:07
thoreauputicamigamia: Try sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start14:07
It_2927I <3 sudo commands14:08
usr13amigamia: or,  sudo apt-get install openssh-server14:08
jeroth1sudo commands <3 typos14:08
Jeeves_Mossis there a way to get a Windows DNS server to sync with Bind?  I currently have a Bind9 cluster, and I have to roll over to Windows (ugh), and I'm lazy.  I don't want to have to retype all the zones14:08
bsidhipomouse: well, X has a native feature for that.  try "xbindkeys"14:08
It_2927dpkg -i youtube14:09
thoreauputicusr13: She/he could log in yesterday so...14:09
It_2927Lmao14:09
amigamiaps axfuw | grep sshd returned info but i dont know what the fields represent i have to insall a irc cleint on that server brb thanks14:09
amigamiabrb in a minute14:09
It_2927i forgot, it only works on the debian channel14:09
mousebsidhipo, Okay thanks.14:09
IronSightis ocelot 11.10?14:09
MetaphysicistAnyone familiar with shell scripting able to help me?14:10
bsidhipojeeves_moss: you can configure bind to allow AXFR and from windows, initiate a zone transfer14:10
usr13amigamia: You can test by trying to initiate an ssh session into it'self.  Just ssh to it's own IP address and see if it connects to itself.14:10
IronSightMetaphysicist, you should head over to #bash for that14:10
MetaphysicistThank ya14:10
IronSightnp14:10
usr13amigamia: If it does connect via ssh to itself, then you know for sure that something is blocking it on the network.14:11
bsidhipoamigamia: on the server side, "iptables -L -nv" see if there is any rules beside default accept all14:12
amigamiaok usr13 let me check that14:12
amigamiaok thnanks i am trying local ssh and then with another laptop brb and thank you all so much14:12
IronSightMetaphysicist, there is also a good book called "Linux Shell Scripting with Bash" you might want to find if you need it for work or something14:13
bsidhipometaphysicist: what about?14:13
usr13If it does not connect to itself, look and see if it is set to listen on another port:  grep Port /etc/ssh/sshd_config14:13
bsidhipousr13: kinda doubtful, that (different port)14:13
asnthi y'all… I'm having a little problem here — mah ubuntu ain't makin no noise! any thoughts?14:14
amigamiayes something is blocking it becasue i cant ssh locally on the server.14:14
MetaphysicistThe smartmontools script at the bottom of this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Smartmontools is yielding arithmetic errors on lines 29 and 31. Anyone have any idea as to why? Running this on Ubuntu 11.10.14:14
amigamiabrb telephone call.14:14
thoreauputicamigamia: Did you try restarting sshd ?14:14
* thoreauputic thinks it is likely not running14:14
amigamiai rebooted the server thoreauputic14:14
bsidhipoamigamia: stop rebooting linux ... think first14:15
amigamiait would restart on reboot shouldnt it?14:15
thoreauputicamigamia: But do you have sshd starting by default? Maybe not?14:15
amigamiabsidhipo i know it's not required but i still have windows thoughts in my mind sometimes :)14:15
thoreauputicamigamia: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start14:15
usr13sudo iptables -L   #Look for an iptables rule that may be blocking port 2214:16
IronSightI don't deal with smart stuff :/14:16
bsidhipoamigamia: i have to leave soon.  work with me here.  on the server machine, you "ssh -v localhost"?  did that work?14:16
amigamiai just installed open-ssh server14:16
amigamiait's installing now.14:16
IronSightI do hard drive checks in windows with premade software ^_^14:16
thoreauputicHeheh14:16
amigamiabut i was in it lastnight so i dont understand14:16
usr13I don't either14:16
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pznI have problems (mouse pointer corrupted for example) when I connect 2 screens in my notebook. how can I disable all 3d/visual effects in ubuntu 11.10 to try to see if that fixes the problem?14:17
amigamiait's workign now :)14:17
usr13amigamia: How is it you could connect via ssh locally when openssh-server was not installed?14:17
thoreauputicamigamia: Cosmic rays ;-)14:17
bsidhipopzn: better to use software cursors instead of hardware cursors14:17
pznbsidhipo, how can I configure that?14:17
amigamiathat is so freaked out :)14:18
amigamiathat is just so freaked out. i don't understand :D14:18
usr13amigamia: Ok, well it's mystery.  But all is well that ends well.14:18
bsidhipopzn: that depends on which X driver you're running .. consult its manpage for the option to disable hardware cursors14:19
amigamiayes thanks to all i really appreciate it :D14:19
usr13NP14:19
bsidhipopzn: hardware cursors tend to behave badly (corruptions, etc.) under X (that i've seen)14:19
passerola14:19
passer¿hay alguien?14:20
thoreauputicpasser:  /join #ubuntu-es14:20
passerollllllllllllllllllaaaaaaaaaaaa14:20
mneptok!es | passer14:20
ubottupasser: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.14:20
mneptokpasser: Ingles solamente.14:20
passerhello14:21
_MarcusHello passer14:21
passerwhat your name?14:21
mneptok!ot14:21
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!14:21
mneptokpasser: ayude en Igles solamente aqui, pf14:22
mneptok*ayuda14:22
passerhow old are you?14:22
bsidhipopasser: you want to cam me?14:22
mneptokpasser: AYUDA SOLAMENTE14:22
_Marcuspasser: My name is Marcus, as if it's not obvious, and this is the Ubuntu support channel. Go to #ubuntu-offtopic for questions like that.14:22
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chad_Hi… is there anyone around that can help me work out a wifi setup issue on a laptop I just received?14:26
MonkeyDu1t!wifi| chad_ start here14:26
ubottuchad_ start here: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs14:26
chad_Yeah, I have14:26
bsidhipochad: and ... what's the problem?14:26
passersorry i am spanish14:26
bazhangchad_, what chipset, what version of ubuntu, what drivers installed and from where14:26
chad_I read the wifi docs, my chipset apparently works but s problems14:26
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passersilly14:27
chad_Ubuntu 11.10, Broadcom BCM43224 [14e4:4353]14:27
bazhangpasser, english ubuntu support only /join #ubuntu-es as we have told you14:27
passerhello chad14:27
chad_hi passer14:27
metap0dHi everyone, how do I install libreoffice headless on ubuntu server 11.10? I can't find the correct package name on the internet : /14:27
passerhow are you14:27
bazhangpasser, please stop14:27
MonkeyDust!ot| passer14:28
ubottupasser: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!14:28
AlexKaluzhny ondraorg, are you still having connection issues with wiki?14:28
chad_Anyone have any experience w/ that chipset?14:28
MonkeyDustchad_  BCM43 has its own help pages14:28
bsidhipochad: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b4314:28
bazhangchad_, check the broadcom factoid14:28
passergood-looking14:28
chad_Yup, I went through that =\14:28
AmougWhat is the use of nosuid mount option if one is already mounting with noexec ? From a security perspective14:29
|ntegra|chad I just googled that and at the fedoraforums there are two [solved] threads??14:29
chad_I'm frankly annoyed that this notebook is "ubuntu certified"… I thought I knew what that meant. =\14:29
mneptokchad_: purchased from what OEM?14:29
chad_Yeah, I went through the fedora forums suggestions too. ugh14:29
chad_HP14:29
|ntegra|oh grief14:29
mneptokchad_: HP does not sell laptops with Ubuntu pre-installed.14:29
_MarcusThey don't? :(14:30
mwaterschad_, check out http://sqizit.bartletts.id.au/2012/02/06/again-broadcom-wireless-bcm43224-ubuntu/14:30
chad_It wasn't preinstalled, it's just listed as "Ubuntu certified"14:30
YounderDoes anyone?14:30
mneptokchad_: therefore, their products are not certified for Ubuntu14:30
_MarcusYounder: I've seen it before14:30
YounderI've always installed on Dozer14:30
jpdschad_: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/test-suite14:30
mneptokchad_: listed by *whom* as certified?14:30
_Marcuschad_: Did you buy it from HP directly? Or from a store and HP made the laptop14:30
bsidhipoHP certifies a lot of stuff :-)  doesn't mean it works nicely.  their blade chassis and the newer G6 i think produces kernel MCE messages "cpu temp over limit, clock throttled" in a small percentage of our cluster14:31
passerwhore14:31
chad_mneptok: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201101-695414:31
AlexKaluzhnyondraorg, are you there?14:31
chad_that's what mislead me14:31
passerwhore14:31
YounderThere isn't a single company in Norway that will give me a Linux box!14:32
mneptokchad_: but .... you did not buy the exact model on that certification page.14:32
YounderNot one14:32
_MarcusYounder: This is your chance to make some money then :P14:32
mneptokchad_: that page says quite clearly that the tested wireless chipset was Intel, not Broadcom.14:32
chad_Yeah, you're right, mneptok. Now that you mention it.  Heh.. I didn't buy anything.14:32
chad_Yeah, I re-read it just now, you're right. Sorry.14:32
YounderThere used to be power-teck14:32
chad_Well anyway, I'm still annoyed about the wireless, not the certification status14:32
chad_.14:32
bsidhipochad: if you must, swap out the mini-pcie with another one that's intel-based :-)14:32
chad_Yeah, or just not install linux on this machine and use it as a paperweight14:33
asntHi… sound isn't working for me… any thoughts?14:33
chad_which is what it was before I started trying14:33
mneptokchad_: the Restricted Drivers app did not offer to install anything?14:33
_Marcusasnt: Built in sound? Or headphones?14:33
Younder_Marcus, ahh You mean I should do it.. Well I just might!14:33
asnt_Marcus: a speaker, playing through a sound card14:33
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chad_mneptok: the restricted driver (STA) installed without a hitch14:33
usr13asnt: See that volume is turned up.14:33
chad_But it doesn't work14:33
_Marcusasnt: Sound card? Is there any drivers needed for it from the manufactorer?14:34
bsidhipoasnt: obvious check like plugged into linux out / headphone instead of mic in ?14:34
chad_I can see SSIDs listed14:34
bsidhipouh, *LINE* out14:34
mneptokchad_: make sure there is not a hardware switch on the machine that kills the wireless.14:34
asntusr13 actually that was the first thing I checked :D14:34
Younder_Marcus, I love linux systems, and they love me;)14:34
usr13asnt: alsamixer  ?14:34
bsidhipodarn muscle memory14:34
chad_If I touch the hardware switch, the list of networks goes away14:34
_MarcusYounder: :P14:34
chad_but regardless of it's state I can't connect14:34
MonkeyDustasnt  in a Terminal, type alsamixer, if you see MM, go there and press m14:34
mneptokchad_: to anything? or just one of them?14:34
_Marcusanst: Did you check for drivers it might need?14:34
mwaterschad_, you have to load the kernel module manually after installing the Broadcom package14:35
asntMonkeyDust: didn't change anything…14:35
mneptokmwaters: if SSIDs are visible, the module is loaded.14:35
jpdschad_: You need to revise your defination of "doesn't work". ;-)14:35
gray_fox893asnt: what soundcard are you using?14:35
bsidhipobbl, work14:35
asntbsidhipo: it's plugged into the green port. I think that's the right one for output…14:36
chad_jpds: I'm not entirely sure what's happening, tbh14:36
mwatersmneptok, k14:36
asntgray_fox893: Creative Audio Sound Blaster Audigy SE14:36
usr13asnt: (run  alsamixer see that the audo device is correctly shown in upper left portion of window  and see if anything is muted or if volume is turned down) Then check to see if your speakers are plugged into correct port.14:36
chad_looking at ubuntu's wifi menu, I see my network ssid listed as the connected network after I select it14:36
chad_but then after a few seconds to a minute it says it's disconnected14:36
usr13asnt: Play audio while plugging into other ports.14:36
jpdschad_: Right, so it is 'working', check the logs under /var/log/syslog .14:37
asntusr13: looks all right (correct card and chip listed, nothing muted except 'CAPTURE')14:37
usr13asnt: Is this a laptop?14:37
interwebz:)14:37
asntusr13: nope.14:37
usr13asnt: Maybe you have a bad sound card.14:38
chad_jpds: I see a ton of messages about cfg80211 updating information about frequencies14:38
asntusr13: hmm. perhaps, I suppose… I bet it's just misconfigured though. I tried all the ports (including the onboard sound, which I've never used) and none of them worked14:39
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chad_I also see it say "Registering newaddress record for <my mac address> on wlan0.* "14:39
usr13asnt: Maybe you have a bad set of speakers.14:39
_Marcusanst: That's the LAST thing you should say14:40
asntusr13: well the speakers work fine with a different computer and with my ipod, so…14:40
usr13asnt: (Maybe the amp on the speaker set is out).14:40
asntusr13: well actually the *speaker14:40
chad_jpds: followed instantly by "CTRL-EVENT-DISCONNECTED bssid=00:00:00:00:00:00 reason=3"14:40
amigamiawhat command do i use to stop mysql?14:40
jpdschad_: Now: tail -f /var/log/syslog14:40
It_2927trolling14:40
It_2927is14:40
It_2927fun14:40
usr13asnt: Oh?  it's only one?14:40
_Marcusasnt: So it's not working on this computer only?14:40
amigamiastop mysqld?14:40
Hans_Henriki tried to upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 using only vnc and ssh... after everything went seemingly good, and it restarted, vnc wont start at all.14:40
Hans_Henrik(vnc serv)14:40
asntusr13: it doesn't have an amp, it's just a thing that I hacked together out of a broken pair of headphones and a stereo speaker from the dump14:40
jpdschad_: And watch the logs for when it disconnects, work from there.14:41
asntusr13: it works fine with my ipod and another computer, so I don't think it's the speaker14:41
usr13asnt: When you had alsamixer  open, did you see  MM  at the bottom of any of the channel indicators?14:41
usr13asnt: (particularly Master).14:41
compdocHans_Henrik, do you have access to the machine?14:41
Hans_Henrikcompdoc: via ssh only.14:42
usr13asnt: (particularly Master or PCM).14:42
asntusr13: I did on the master one but I hit 'm' like MonkeyDust suggested, and it changed to OO, but still no cigar14:42
Hans_Henrikcompdoc: i dont have any physical access to it14:42
mjzhello14:42
_MarcusHello mjz14:42
usr13asnt: How about PCM ?   No   MM  at the bottom?  And it's turned up?14:43
compdocHans_Henrik, well, thats something at least. which vnc server is it? I only use vnc4server, so I cant help with others14:43
maxagazhi14:43
usr13asnt: If  you saw  MM  at the bottom, it was indeed muted at the time.14:43
maxagazwhat is beteen unhealthy and moderate for pollution ?14:43
maxagazbetwen14:43
maxagazbetween14:43
maxagazsorry14:43
jpds!offtopic | maxagaz14:43
ubottumaxagaz: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!14:43
bazhangmaxagaz, how does that relate to ubuntu14:44
asntusr13: I don't see PCM. on Master, it was muted then, but I unmuted it (so no MM) and it's still not working.14:44
gorskiflashplugin broke on 10.04 after todays upgrade!!!!14:44
chad_jpds: any idea why DHCP would time out only for this laptop?  I have a windows laptop, two macs, two android tablets, and four smart phones that have no trouble with the router14:44
_Marcusmaxagaz: That's offtopic and don't use enter for every word14:44
jpdschad_: No.14:44
Hans_Henriki have tried: apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop;apt-get install ubuntu-desktop; x11vnc -passwd "lala" and x11vnc just says 29/03/2012 14:43:37 *** XOpenDisplay failed (:0) //blabla cant open display14:44
usr13asnt: Use the right arrow to move to chanels that are not shown in the window.14:44
MonkeyDustasnt  in a Terminal, type alsamixer|pastebin and paste the url here14:44
_Marcuschad_: The hardware?14:44
maxagazok, sorry for that14:44
chad_ugh14:45
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chad__Marcus: ?14:45
MonkeyDustasnt  correction : in a Terminal, type alsamixer|pastebinit and paste the url here14:45
amigamiaunder ubuntu is there a mysqld server?14:45
usr13amigamia: sure14:45
_Marcuschad_: The hardware could be bad, seeing how everything else works fine but not that machine14:45
asntusr13: I did. I got Master, S/PDIF, S/PDIF C, S/PDIF F, S/PDIF R, S/PDIF U, Analog C, Analog F, Analog R, Analog S, CAPTURE14:45
_Marcusamigamia: If you install it there is14:45
Piciamigamia: still trying to stop it? sudo service mysql stop14:46
linelevelHi guys. I'm having a strange problem with a bash script I wrote to set my cpu fan speed. Here is the 3-line script: http://pastebin.com/B4kj8HEY . When I type those 3 lines manually (replacing $1 with the level I want), the fan speed stays at whatever I set it to. But when I run the script, it works temporarily, but my computer soon sets its own fan speed again automatically. Any ideas?14:46
chad__Marcus: the hardware worked under windows, so I don't think it's a physical problem.14:46
MonkeyDustlinelevel  better ask in #bash14:46
usr13asnt: Find PCM and see that it is not muted or turned down.14:46
asntMonkeyDust: one second…14:46
_Marcuslinelevel: Could it be possible that the operating system or even the hardware itself is changing the settings?14:47
asntusr13: it wasn't there. I listed all the channels that were shown, and all the channels that appeared when I arrowed to the right.14:47
escottlinelevel, rather than having sudos in a script like that you can just chown it to root and mark it setuid14:47
usr13asnt: What is the sound chip?14:48
asntusr13: CA010614:49
pestilencewhat's the fix for the broken flash update today14:49
Hans_Henrikcompdoc: well idk whats the difference since 10.10 but when i added "-auth guess" to startup parameter, x11vnc serv started normally ^^14:49
bigkittywhy i cannot install git on ubuntu?14:49
gnuskoolwhat would be a reasonable amount to pay for the install of a ubuntu server for 10 people - just for mail and file sharing and the fundamental basics?14:49
asntMonkeyDust: the pastebinit command is still running…14:49
_Marcusbigkitty: You can14:49
bigkittyhi14:49
chad_heh this blows14:49
compdocHans_Henrik, so its working?14:49
linelevelescott: I've read that you shouldn't use setuid due to security holes. In any case, what is the advantage over what I did?14:49
_Marcusbigkitty: sudo apt-get install git14:49
bigkittynobody here?14:50
MonkeyDustasnt  then you did something wrong, pastebinit creates an url14:50
_Marcusbigkitty: I just told you something...14:50
escottlinelevel, you should be careful with setuid, but if you have a script that takes no arguments and you set the permissions to 755 or lower that is perfectly safe14:50
amigamiahow can i verify that mysql is even installed?14:50
asntMonkeyDust I'll run it again…14:50
Hans_Henrikcompdoc: yup. i read the last comment here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1885994 and then tried -auth /home/hanshenrik/.Xauthority and it did not work, but it said "new in version 0.99: -auth guess will" blabla ^^14:51
linelevelescott: My script does take one arg.14:51
_Marcusamigamia: Type sudo service mysql14:51
Hans_Henrikcompdoc: (so now it works, my problem is solved)14:51
MonkeyDustamigamia  maybe you coud first learn the ubuntu basics and then try more advanced stuff14:51
linelevelescott: Even if it's safe, my way is safe too, right? So what's the advantage of setuid?14:51
_Marcusamigamia: Did it say "mysql: unrecognized service14:51
_Marcus"14:51
MonkeyDustcould*14:51
gnuskoolis there any benefit setting up a mail server if  your isp already does that for you?14:51
amigamiamonkeydust i have been using ubuntu since hoary14:52
escottlinelevel, ok you should test that argument and make sure it is a valid number before submitting it to tee then14:52
usr13asnt: lsmod |grep ca0106  #What does that tell you?14:52
chad_OK, well thanks for the help guys.  I appreciate your trying.14:52
ikoniagnuskool: not really and a lot of ISP's don't like you trying to run your own mail services for security/spam reasons14:52
amigamiai would prefer monkeydust you don't say anything to me please.14:52
usr13asnt: What version of Ubuntu do you have installed?14:52
_Marcusamigamia: Then you shouldn't except help from him either14:52
linelevelescott: First I just want to get this script working. Then I'll worry about making it better :)14:52
llutzescott: you cannot set suid-root scripts14:52
MonkeyDustamigamia  _Marcus what's up?14:53
mneptokamigamia: the package info for MySQL will tell you if it's installed.14:53
asntusr13: http://pastebin.com/AEKjdBgy14:53
asntusr13: maverick14:53
gnuskoolikonia: not even just for it to download all your mail and save it locally inase of internet outtage?14:53
amigamiai dont want it marcus because he has never helped me and only said thinks like man or search google.14:53
bigkittyhi all14:53
amigamiaanyway i am looking things up as i ususally do anyway14:53
_MarcusMonkeyDust: Nothing much, just sitting here at my computer on xChat like normal.14:53
asntusr13: with all the updates, and some more14:53
bigkittywhy i cannot install git on ubuntu?14:53
ikoniagnuskool: the headache of running a mail server for that reason and maintaining it secuirty wise and dealing with your ISP...is that really worth it14:53
_Marcusbigkitty: I told you. You can. Type sudo apt-get install git14:54
ikoniagnuskool: if you ISP goes down, what are you going to do with the mail anyway, you can't send mail, you ISP is down14:54
mouseWhat command do I use in the terminal to invoke key press events?14:54
MonkeyDustasnt  the outcome of 'alsamixer' should be more graphical-like, with vertical bars et al14:54
bigkitty_Marcus dude, apt-cache search git cannot find it14:54
linelevel_Marcus: Yes, the OS is changing the setting, but I'm not sure why it doesn't do that when I run those commands manually, only as part of a script.14:55
usr13asnt: Well, I don't know.  Do you see PCM in any other volume control?14:55
_Marcusbigkitty: Type "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install git"14:55
asntMonkeyDust: um than what?14:55
_Marcusbigkitty: Disregard what apt-cache says14:55
usr13asnt: I see14:55
asntusr13: nope. I saw no sign of it14:55
linelevelMonkeyDust: #bash sent me back here since the fan speed/modprobe issue isn't a pure bash scripting question.14:55
usr13asnt: I see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=181658314:55
amigamiasomething is wrong with this build i have to restart from scratch. thanks all14:56
asntMonkeyDust: this is what's happening with the pastebinit issue.14:56
asntMonkeyDust: http://image.bayimg.com/mangfaadk.jpg14:56
ikoniaamigamia: what ?14:56
ikoniaamigamia: what is the issue ?14:56
usr13asnt: But I don't think it is relevant to your situation.  (the sound card module is loading for your sound card, so....)14:56
multiHYPif I want to reject connection on specific ports I have to define it in the iptables? I thought whatever was not specified as ACCEPT was automatically rejected.14:57
ikoniamultiHYP: depends if your default is allow or deny14:57
asntusr13: yeah it looks like a different problem14:57
asntusr13: :P14:57
multiHYPikonia: what is my default?14:57
asntis flash dead as of an update last night for anyone else?14:58
usr13asnt: But it appears you have others as well.  Not sure if all that stuff should be loaded.  Do you have only one sound card or sound chip?  Is it on-board or an add-on card?14:58
ikoniamultiHYP: I thought it was allow on ubuntu, but I'm not sure, ufw sets it "open" by default I think14:58
ikoniaasnt: does it matter if it's for anyone else ? why don't you just concentrate on fixing your problem14:58
multiHYPnot using ufw, straight to iptables. so --flush makes everything allow?14:58
asntusr13: I have an onboard chip as well, this is a card.14:59
ikoniamultiHYP: ufw is there by default14:59
_Marcusikonia: If ufw is enabled, everything is blocked by default.14:59
ikoniamultiHYP: so adding direct with iptables may cause you some problems unless you disable it14:59
ikonia_Marcus: are you sure (I don't have it here to check)14:59
usr13asnt: Oh.  Is it working?  (The on-board one...)14:59
multiHYPi don't let ufw run14:59
ikoniamultiHYP: then it should be open14:59
asntusr13: nope.14:59
multiHYPufw is not a working tool14:59
asntusr13: not a peep14:59
_Marcusikonia: Yeah. I remember because I had ufw enabled and I was thinking "why wont httpd work?" and I remembered I had to use "ufw allow 80" to open it15:00
multiHYPits a irritating and not properly working obscurity on top of iptables15:00
usr13asnt: Is there an option in bios to dissable the on-board one?  (If so, you might try dissabling it.  Could be some sort of conflict.)15:00
multiHYPthere are major flaws in ufw, be careful. it gives you the illusion of working, but its not.15:00
roastedUnity Question - is there a way I can reorganize the way things appear in the lens? I'm curious if I can default Unity to show all of my apps a-z, so I don't have to open the lens, hit the apps icon in the bottom row, then hit "see 115 more results". Is there not a way to default that as the primary lens view?15:00
bdiIf i own a domain abc.com and i dont have hosting anywhere, i just have the domain, how can i check mail sent to something@abc.com ?15:01
asntusr13: I haven't been able to get into bios for a couple months. no idea why ;P15:01
multiHYPso changes made to iptables are additive? i.e. i block everything first and allow specifics in the lines below it?15:01
_Marcusbdi: By setting records in the domain's DNS.15:01
Jeeves_Mosswhat's the quick way of forcing replication of a newly added domain to slave servers?15:02
asntusr13: so it's kind of a schrödinger's sound card situation I guess15:02
ikoniamultiHYP: no, I believe iptables default to open with no rules15:02
usr13asnt: Just a thought.  Well, I suppose if I were you, I'd just grab another sound card.15:02
ikoniabdi: contact the people you bought the domain from to explain their setup/solution15:02
multiHYPyes, but how can i make it block everything and only allow specified things?15:02
ikoniamultiHYP: create you allow rules, then do a block all15:02
multiHYPwhat is that block all rule, how is it defined? is it like : http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-iptables-4-block-all-incoming-traffic-but-allow-ssh.html15:03
asntusr13: that would be an excellent idea if I a) had another or b) had some money to buy another. lol15:03
ikoniamultiHYP: why don't you use ufw if you don't know how to use iptables15:03
ikoniamultiHYP: you'll find it much easier as it's got a pretty straightforward usage15:03
multiHYPbecause ufw is a joke.15:03
asntusr13: unfortunately neither is true… I guess I'll just live with it for now. I can test a live dvd too to see if that works for sound.15:03
usr13asnt: I have several, just come on by, i'll give you one.15:04
ikoniamultiHYP: yet you can't use the more grown up tool, so maybe you should consider "using" the joke, if the serious tools is beyond you15:04
multiHYPikonia: it fundtions or rather fails as easily as its to set up. (ufw)15:04
escottllutz, ahh thanks. didnt realize one had to write a wrapper15:04
ikoniamultiHYP: it doesn't fail at all15:04
multiHYPikonia: you seem to not be able to help me with iptables15:04
ikoniamultiHYP: I can, I just suggest you use a tool thats easier15:04
bazhangmultiHYP, #iptables15:04
asntusr13: ok thx ^.^15:04
ikoniamultiHYP: iptables support can be found in #netfilter15:05
multiHYPnah you can't mate15:05
asntusr13: hehe15:05
multiHYPwhich one?15:05
bazhangmultiHYP, one forwards to the other15:05
ikoniamultiHYP: good luck in #netfilter,15:05
multiHYPyes15:05
ikoniamultiHYP: well, if you don't think I know how to use iptables, that's your business, however it is stupid to assume I don't know how to use it because your pride is burnt15:05
multiHYPok thanks15:05
bazhangmultiHYP, welcome15:05
asntis flash dead for anyone else as of last night's update?15:05
bazhangasnt and fixed subsequently with an update this afternoon15:06
multiHYPikonia: no, i assume because you didn't answer my question. you kept telling me to use ufw15:06
chad_OK, so it looks like wpa_supplicant is having trouble authenticating with my router, does anyone have any debugging suggestions?15:06
ikoniamultiHYP: I asked you once to consider using it, up to you15:06
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multiHYPand that was not the answer to my question. yes, i keep using iptables until i learn it.15:07
multiHYPthanks15:07
usr13nufsaid15:07
hi675445hi15:07
_Marcushi hi67544515:08
chad_Anyone?15:08
hi675445is there a way to rejuset cpu usege15:08
chad_Never mind… hm15:09
Jeeves_Mossis there an easy way to get bidirectional syncing of Windows DNS with Bind9?15:10
qwafelfishhey, i have problems with endian and some guys from the ##debian channel sent me to ##linux but ##linux is not working so now i am here 'cause ubuntu is also linux and maybe someone here can help me out15:10
auronandacechad_: solved it?15:10
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hsnmckHi, when I use grep "word" I see my word highlighted in red. I created a bash script that uses grep, but when I call this script my word is not highlighted, why? thx,15:11
compdocqwafelfish, endian firewall?15:12
qwafelfishright compdoc15:12
chad_auronandace: nope15:12
zykotick9hsnmck: try adding --color=always15:12
auronandaceqwafelfish: ##linux doesn't work? what do you mean? are you using a registered nick?15:12
chad_auronandace: just a dead end trying to figure this out15:12
auronandacechad_: oh, well you have only been here about 5 mins15:13
qwafelfishauronandace nope i'm not registered15:13
auronandaceqwafelfish: you need a registered nick to talk in ##linux15:13
chad_auronandace: I was in here just before, I logged off to try something15:13
|ntegra|he's been here almost 50 minutes15:13
chad_auronandace: I'm debugging networking issues.15:13
auronandacechad_: ah, sorry15:13
hsnmckThank you zykotick9, it works15:13
qwafelfishauronandace: okay, now you know why i am here! :D15:13
Piciqwafelfish: We only support Ubuntu here. Not any Linux distro.15:14
|ntegra|and he's getting next to no answers15:14
sjohnsonhi guys.  a remote machine that has 10.04 LTS, but its package for tcl-dev is 8.4, and I want to update to 8.5 using apt-get.  Is this against the design of ubuntu?15:14
Piciqwafelfish: If you are having problems registering your account then you can ask in #freenode15:14
usr13chad_: Are you sure you have the right key?15:14
compdocqwafelfish, I use efw15:15
chad_usr13: yes, certain15:15
chad_believe me..heh15:15
roastedIs there a way to rearrange the items of the unity lens? I really could care less for "recent items". I'd like it to default to showing me all of my apps at once.15:15
SimooonHello, does anyone know how to install one of the still supported versions of ubuntu on an IGEPv2?15:15
sjohnsonin other words, must I upgrade to the newest Ubuntu before trying to update certain packages?15:15
qwafelfishPici: i don't want to register, i want help.15:15
usr13chad_: Are you sure your WiFi NIC is fully supported, (and capable of doing the type of encryption that the router uses)?15:15
Piciqwafelfish: You will not get any help for any distro besides Ubuntu here. Period.15:16
auronandaceqwafelfish: to get help in ##linux you'd need to register, we don't support endian here15:16
|ntegra|good answer/question, turn off the encryption and check that first15:16
usr13chad_: You might try switching to another type of encryption.  Maybe wep ?15:16
sjohnsonwep is useless as far as security goes, mind you15:16
usr13sjohnson: Oh really....15:17
sjohnsonbigtime, it's very easy to get someone's web password15:17
chad_usr13: I use the same router for video streaming, I don't want to degrade the throughput..15:18
chad_I can try another standard but it'll only illuminate the issue, not solve it.  I'll try it though.15:18
sjohnsonusr13: from wikipedia, "Although its name implies that it is as secure as a wired connection, WEP has been demonstrated to have numerous flaws and has been deprecated in favor of newer standards such as WPA2."15:18
usr13chad_: How about just turning off encryption all-to-gether?15:18
qwafelfishbut ubuntu sounds like endian15:18
auronandaceqwafelfish: but it isn't ubuntu15:19
chad_heh, again, it can determine if I'm having issues w/ the encryption but not fix the problem… I'm going to try it though15:19
usr13sjohnson: But your statement is wrong.  wep is not useless.15:19
qwafelfishauronandace that is what you think!15:20
benzaldehydeChad I just got here.. What's wrong?15:20
lanammortal-anime.net15:20
|ntegra|you're having trouble with a proprietary driver that needs to be compiled with some special options, (and with no previously installed/used kernel modules)15:20
bazhanglana, wrong channel15:20
|ntegra|(as far as I can see from the fedora guys with the same issue)15:21
sjohnsonusr13:  what would be a good use for it in today's world, then?15:21
qwafelfish 15:21
usr13sjohnson: Your argument is irrelvant, drop it.15:21
bazhangsjohnson, usr13 lets move on15:21
|ntegra|http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=268067 this guy actually solves it15:21
benzaldehydeI use wep15:21
Pici!wep15:21
ubottuWEP is totally insecure, don't use it, the full Wireless Documentation for Ubuntu can be found at:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs15:22
usr13Pici: wep is not totally insecure.  But as bazhang said MOVE ON15:22
benzaldehydeLol okay..I love in Florida, my neighbors are all senior citizens and just use the web as an end user15:23
benzaldehydeLive I meant..excuse me15:23
Piciusr13: agreed.15:23
rtdoshow do i change the default display manager from gdm to lxdm?15:23
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detch1i am aweb developer i did      (sudo chmod -R 777 /opt/lampp/htdocs/myproject) but every folder i create it in this folder i must give it the permission     how can i stop this headache ?15:25
auronandacedetch1: 777 is not a good idea15:25
detch1so, what is the good ideaa ?15:26
detch1every file and every folder not working15:26
bazhangdetch1, why did you put that in /opt/15:27
bazhangdetch1, is that really xampp?15:27
usr13rtdos: edit /etc/X11/default-display-manager15:28
detch1yes xampp but i ask about permissions not about xampp15:29
Picirtdos: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm   will let give you a menu to change your display mananger.15:29
bastidrazordetch1: something about sticky bits.. maybe read up on them and you'll find the answer15:29
bazhangdetch1, and we have told you many times that xampp is not supported here, and not to ask about it15:29
bazhang!lamp | detch1 read and follow this please15:30
ubottudetch1 read and follow this please: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)15:30
detch1i faced the same problem in lampp and no one solve my problem      so i wanted to ask about permissons   do you want me to remove xampp and install lampp to give me advice about permissions ?15:31
auronandace!permissions | detch115:32
ubottudetch1: An explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions15:32
go8765 hello. i have some problems with vlc. can i found help here? vlc dont play video :(  when i run it from terminal - i get this http://paste.ubuntu.com/905676/ can anybody help me wth this please?15:33
bazhanggo8765, what version of ubuntu15:34
go8765bazhang: 11.1015:35
bazhanggo8765, does video work with mplayer15:35
go8765bazhang: yes. only xine have the same pb15:37
meerkatshow do I get rid of duplicated sources?15:37
bazhangmeerkats, in sources.list?15:37
meerkatsbazhang, is that a hidden file?15:37
dr_willis /etc/apt/sources.list15:38
bazhang /etc/apt/sources.list meerkats15:38
meerkatsok15:38
bazhang# comment them out15:38
dr_willisor /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ONE-file-per-added-repo15:38
detch1could any way to put 777 permisson to every folder i put it in my project folder ?15:38
bazhangdetch1, stop asking for xampp help here15:38
meerkatsdo I get duplicated sources because I have installed redundant ppa's?15:38
llutzdetch1: a. you don't want 777 b. you want to read about posix acl c. xampp isn't supported here15:39
dr_willismeerkats:  you could.15:39
detch1ummm   ok thank  yo15:39
bazhangmeerkats, want to pastebin it?15:39
meerkatsu, ok...15:39
urz_25hello15:40
boehmeri could need some help with xmodmap15:40
urz_25i'm new here15:40
urz_25some can help?15:40
boehmeri executed `xmodmap -e "keycode 91 = period"`15:40
urz_25some one15:40
bazhangurz_25, with what15:40
auronandaceurz_25: you need to describe your problem15:41
boehmerto map the numpad comma on my german keyboard to a period for english OS15:41
dr_willisask your question and see.15:41
boehmerunfortunately after running xmodmap the key is dead15:41
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FernandoCuevawhen I turn on my computer I get a long list of input/output errores at some dev I want to know how can I see this log what file should I look15:41
boehmeri tried to map other events to that key but the key keeps being dead15:41
boehmerhow can that be? what's wrong with `xmodmap -e "keycode 91 = period"`??15:42
urz_25#ubuntu-it-forum15:42
go8765bazhang: any ideas how fx vlc?15:42
dr_willisFernandoCueva:  'dmesg' may show similler errors.15:43
bazhanggo8765, does it work with 3D turned off15:43
urz_25okei i will...how it's work?15:44
urz_25i have no idea how ubuntu works but i'm tirred with windows so...15:45
urz_25almos i understood but i have some problem15:45
urz_25first of all how can i open irc canal?15:45
meerkatsbazhang, dr_willis http://paste.ubuntu.com/905784/15:46
chad_sheesh, still no luck15:46
auronandaceurz_25: you are in an irc channel now15:46
auronandaceurz_25: /join #nameofchannel15:46
go8765bazhang:i  think - yes. hоw l can check thls?15:46
bazhang!manual | urz_25 start here15:46
ubottuurz_25 start here: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/15:46
urz_25okei but i have no idea how i opened15:46
urz_25so15:46
serdar_42123231hello everyone!15:47
auronandaceurz_25: some clients open #ubuntu by default15:47
himsinHi, I am on ubuntu 10.10 64-bit. Whenever I load a jnlp file using java it runs terribly slow on my system. Is there any way to fix this?15:47
urz_25thank's15:47
bazhang!rute | urz_25 and this may help15:47
ubottuurz_25 and this may help: documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com15:47
meerkatsso what I should do is look for those redundat lines and choose one to delete in the apt/source.list file... bazhang ?15:47
bazhangmeerkats, place a # in front to comment it out15:47
auronandacehimsin: 10.10 will be end of life next month, youmay want to consider upgrading15:48
dr_willismeerkats:  most likely - yes.15:48
serdar_42123231Gogle's Chrome has user tracking mechanism. I will use SWRIron . But can someone tell me if Chromium browser has also user-tracking mechanism or not?15:48
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meerkatsdr_willis, ok15:48
auronandaceserdar_42123231: chromium does not have tracking15:49
himsinok15:49
auronandacehimsin: i'm not sure about your java problem though, sorry15:50
go8765bazhang: sо hоw l can check thls?15:50
FernandoCuevaI want to know if ubuntu gives input output errors at device sr0 when the machine loads with a blank dvd inside the drive or is just happening to me15:51
himsinauronandace, I don't like the GUI in ubuntu 11. Is there any way to switch to classic look as is present in 10?15:51
dr_willis!classic15:52
ubottuThe default interface in Ubuntu 11.04 is !Unity. To switch back to regular !GNOME: log out, click your username, click the Session box at the bottom of the screen, and select "Ubuntu Classic". For 11.10, see !notunity15:52
himsin!nounity15:52
ubottuUbuntu 11.10 uses GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic15:52
auronandacehimsin: gnome2 is no longer maintained, it would be better to consider an alternative like xfce or gnome3-fallback15:53
urz_25a15:53
serdar_42123231auronandace I read on some comments that It has the user tracking system too (like GOOGLE CHROME). but Iron has clean them... How can I be sure? :(15:53
dr_willisor learn how to tweak unity as you like.15:53
auronandaceserdar_42123231: read the source code15:53
chad_OK, I've got a new development in my wifi issues and I'm hoping someone can help me figure out wth would be the culprit.15:54
meerkatsbazhang, instead of that, im looking for each particular location (of the paste-binned list) and deleting it manually15:54
joebWhen executing startup scripts at boot my system gives me errors for services such as: "Unable to chdir() to /home/user/.service (No such file or directory)" -- these directories do exist. Why can't these scripts see these folders at this time? Shouldn't the FS be mounted?15:55
dr_willismeerkats:  the sort and uniq command can help filter out things.. make backups of your original sources.list first15:55
serdar_42123231auronandace ... ok...15:56
meerkatsI dont find any of those entries in the sources.list, thats why I moved to this option15:56
dr_willisjoeb:  your user is using an encrypted home?15:56
joebdr_willis: I don't believe so. This is inside a VM I setup. Let me check.15:56
joebActually, you are correct. It's piped through encrypt_fs15:56
joebIs there a way to migrate out of an encrypted home directory?15:57
joebCopy out the files when mounted and readable, change the fstab or such and then put them back?15:57
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* chad_ hangs his head in shame15:58
chad_I found my network issue.15:59
* chad_ sighs15:59
OneFix_Workjoeb: Yea, that's what I would do.  Tar the whole home directory, copy it to an unencrypted location, then remove the encryption from fstab15:59
auronandace!yay | chad_15:59
ubottuchad_: Glad you made it! :-)15:59
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BuboHello. After today's update of Flash player, all the videos are tinted blue in youtube..(havent checked in video players)15:59
chad_I had a dhcp reservation for the laptop and typo-ed the machine name when I set it up15:59
joebOneFix_Work: Not seeing a specific entry in fstab for /home/user but I think there's some tools15:59
bourkeanyone have issues with the nautilus-dropbox package hanging on install?15:59
chad_So the router was choking when it saw the mac address but not the right name… apparently that matters to it16:00
chad_learn something new..16:00
chad_heh16:00
zykotick9Bubo: you probably need to change the VO device of gstreamer (sorry don't ask me how anymore)16:00
bourkeIt just prints "Dropbox is the easiest way to share and store..." and then does nothing16:00
chad_anyway, fixing the machine name got it back up16:00
OneFix_Workjoeb: Try "rm ~/.encryptfs"16:00
joebIt's ecrypt-setup-private --undo16:00
chad_so annoying though hah16:01
meerkatsunexpected problem: /de.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_oneiric_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages16:01
zykotick9Bubo: actually, sorry - my VO idea doesn't make sense for Flash16:01
meerkatssorry16:02
Bubo:/16:02
meerkatsFailed to fetch cdrom://Ubuntu 11.10 _Oneiric Ocelot_ - Release i386 (20111012)/dists/oneiric/main/binary-i386/Packages  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs16:02
dackyshawnhow secure is ssh? like if i was sshed in from my office could they actually see what I was doing?16:02
BuboHello. After today's update of Flash player, all the videos are tinted blue in youtube..(havent checked in video players) any idea how to fix the problem? I reinstalled the flash-player (DLed it from adobe site) still same16:02
meerkatsthe CD-ROM is a .iso copy ina  usb stick16:02
dackyshawni mean short of them looking at my machine via VNC or something like that16:02
dackyshawni assume the traffic itself is encrypted16:02
Upl1nkHi everybody16:03
escottdackyshawn, if "they" control the hardware "they" can do whatever they want16:03
meerkatswhat do I have to write to add a ubuntu 11.10 iso copy in a usb to the repo?16:03
compdocdackyshawn, dont think they can see even with vnc16:03
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mneptokBubo: http://www.youtube.com/html516:03
OneFix_Workdackyshawn: It really depends on the protocol used too16:03
dackyshawncompdoc i mean if they vnced into my PC they could just see what  iw was typing16:03
dackyshawnisnt ssh the protocol?16:03
OneFix_Workdackyshawn: But, it also depends on who *THEY* are?16:04
jslTBHSSH network traffic is encrypted16:04
dackyshawni see16:04
jslTBHall you have to do is verify that youre connecting to a machine with the right keys16:04
BuboHmm, I'll try html516:04
Buboalso this happened after chrome AND flashplugin update16:04
joebThanks everyone for the help! Completely forgot I had encrypted my home directory. Fixed now.16:04
compdocdackyshawn, ssh does not open a window on your desktop that someone can watch16:04
unkrhey can anyone help me   when ever i want to connect to the window 7 Access Point  (adhoc)  with ubuntu i m unable to connect to it   any suggestion ???16:04
firasno display manager appeares, after dist-upgrade 11.04 to 11.0116:05
dackyshawncompdoc if i use putty to remote to my home to execute commands or transfer files they could in theory vnc it'd be like looking over my shoulder16:05
jslTBHcompdoc: Sure it does. If he has a terminal open and SSHs into a home machine, anyone with VNC to his desktop would see that terminal16:05
firas11.10 i mean16:05
escottdackyshawn, i would not suggest sending top secret files out of the nsa on an nsa computer. ssh is not going to help much with that. but the boss at joes tractor supply and repair probably wont care16:05
Guest80717hey guys, tried to do an update yesterday/today and got this error in the terminal: Failed to fetch gzip:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precise_multiverse_source_Sources  Hash Sum mismatch16:05
Guest80717any help would be appreciated16:05
dackyshawnescott that's what i was curious about16:05
dackyshawnthanks16:05
dackyshawnlol16:05
dackyshawnnot that that's what i'm doing16:05
dackyshawni was just curious16:05
FloodBot1dackyshawn: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.16:05
zykotick9Guest80717: #ubuntu+1 for precise issues16:05
dackyshawnoops... my fault16:06
BuboOk html5 works.. I guess ill use it till there is a fix/update16:06
compdocjslTBH, I thought dackyshawn was ssh'ing into a work PC16:06
firas no display manager appeares, after dist-upgrade 11.04 to 11.1016:06
Buboty mneptok16:06
Guest80717thanks16:06
dackyshawnnah... sshing from work to home (which runs ubuntu server)16:06
unkrhey can anyone help me   when ever i want to connect to the window 7 Access Point  (adhoc)  with ubuntu i m unable to connect to it   any suggestion ???16:06
firas no display manager appeares, after dist-upgrade 11.04 to 11.0116:06
dackyshawni wanted to transfer a file with scp but didnt want it to go over my work's network in plain view16:07
meerkatshelp please, I need to add an .iso copy to my sources http://paste.ubuntu.com/905818/16:07
meerkatsthe unit is NTFS16:07
dackyshawni'm transferring from home to work not other way around16:07
escottdackyshawn, from hardware you control to hardware you control ssh is as secure as you can get. from hardware you don't control it doesn't really matter because its hardware you dont control16:07
firas no display manager appeares, after dist-upgrade 11.04 to 11.0116:08
phpN00bthe scrollbar on Ubuntu 11.10 is very tiny compared to before. Is it possible to set it back the it was?16:08
escottdackyshawn, and uploading should be fine, but obviously what you upload is going onto the company computer and its their computer16:08
jslTBHcould use an encrypted file container for that, luks or similar16:09
firas no display manager appeares, after dist-upgrade 11.04 to 11.0116:09
PiciphpN00b: remove the overlay-scrollbar package.16:09
dackyshawnescott: in theory if someone were to send something friom a work PC over SCP to a remote PC tho they wouldnt be able to see that would they?16:09
firasguys? plz help16:09
firasplease help16:09
escottdackyshawn, i think you are missing the point. if i send a file to you over a secure connection you will see the file i sent you16:09
firasi cant use ubuntu anymore16:10
firasi cant login to gnome16:10
dackyshawnoh an ssh question  unrelated to transfferring files... i have a user logged into my ssh server (under the same user account as me but different terminal session) is it possible to send a message to that terminal from my machine16:10
Picifiras: How did you upgrade?16:10
dackyshawni was thinking using "wall" but i dont remember how to use it16:10
firasbecause i cant get gdm nor lightdm to work16:10
XabsterWhat the hell - skype keeps going unresponsive and I just had an xchat client running that disappeared (completely) except it was still a running process in the gnome-system-monitor - what's happening? if this was windows I would do a virus scan immediately16:10
firasapt-get dist-upgrade --fix-missing -f16:11
Picifiras: Thats not how you upgrade from one release of Ubuntu to the next.16:11
DaekdroomXabster, did you try to minimize Xchat to the tray?16:11
firasi did it before and it worked16:11
XabsterDaekdroom, it was gone, i could not see it anywhere16:12
DaekdroomThe tray no longer exists in the recent versions of Ubuntu, so you can't use XChat with it16:12
Picifiras: Just because it might have worked before does not mean that it is the supported way of upgrading.16:12
Xabsterand skype is still open on my desktop even though I killed the process16:12
firasso what shall i do16:12
Picifiras: You should have used update-manager (or do-release upgrade if you prefer cli)16:12
firas??16:12
auronandaceXabster: kill -9 skype16:12
meerkatsif I make a livecd in a 8gb usb stick, will I still get to use it as a storage unit? I mean the remainder16:12
firasbut unfortunately i didn't, can i get my ubuntu back to life?16:13
Xabsteryou mean the PID?16:13
escottdackyshawn, you can use write but im not sure how many people will understand or respond to that16:13
Picifiras: What does lsb_release -rs say?16:13
auronandaceXabster: or kill -9 pid, yes16:13
escottmeerkats, the part that is not allocated for persistent storage yes16:13
Xabsterkill -9 skype did not work16:13
Xabsterbut the pid did16:13
firasi don't know because i'm using another computer16:13
zykotick9auronandace: killall with process names16:13
auronandaceXabster: good stuff, skype might not be the name of the process16:14
firasthat one only works with ctrl+alt+f216:14
meerkatsescott, filesystem doesnt play a part, does it? I can make a livecd for ubuntu in NTFS16:14
Picifiras: Okay, so do that and tell me what it says.16:14
auronandacezykotick9: ah, thanks16:14
escottmeerkats, i think it has to be fat for the bios to not complain16:14
Xabsterno it gave me a syntax error, Auron_Debian16:14
meerkatscrap16:14
Xabsterauronandace,16:14
zykotick9auronandace: also, FYI tab completion should work with killall16:14
auronandaceXabster: looks like process names only work with killall16:14
marsfligthLinus Torvalds opinion's about Gnome 3  http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/linus-torvalds-would-like-to-see-a-gnome-fork/9347 I agree with HIM at all16:17
Daekdroom!offtopic | marsfligth16:17
ubottumarsfligth: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!16:17
auronandacemarsfligth: this is a support channel, use what desktop you want, nobody is forcing gnome3 on you16:18
meerkatsunity is not that bad when you learn it, in my case its just buggy16:18
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Praxithats annoying, if the xscreensaver quits running my screen is no longer locked16:19
lingls16:19
PraxiIs there  a log file for it or something so I can tell what happened?16:19
firashi16:20
axl_how do i remove a file named ';' ?16:20
firaslsb_release -rs says 11.1016:20
llutzaxl_: rm \;16:20
axl_awesome!16:21
axl_thanks16:21
RikeuraiBonjour16:21
firaspici:  lsb_release -rs says 11.1016:21
bazhangRikeurai, english here please french in #ubuntu-fr16:21
firaspici???16:22
bazhangfiras, whats the issue16:22
firaswhen i installed 11.04 i chose automatic login with gdm16:23
SubDi'm trying to get into my share on ubuntu 10.04.4 wich I used to be able to do, but now I cant, all I get is this error http://pastebin.com/jvGbsp3D any one know what went wrong?16:23
firaswhen i (dist-upgrade)ed 11.04 to 11.10 i chose lightdm16:23
firasnow neither lightdm nor gdm work16:23
LmAtHow do I set up my ubuntu server to accept putty connections?16:24
llutzLmAt: install openssh-server16:24
LmAtllutz; thanks.16:24
firasbazhang?16:25
linelevel_Marcus, MonkeyDust, others who were helping me: Just thought you'd like to know that I figured out the problem with my script.  I reasoned that the only difference between running my script and running the commands manually is timing. I added a brief `sleep` between the `rmmod` and `modprobe` in the script and now it works. Still not sure why that's needed.16:25
daftykinsSubD: can you ping the XBMC box?16:25
firasbazhang??16:26
_Marcuslinelevel: Who knows ;)16:26
firasguys help??.....16:26
bazhangfiras, whats the actual question16:26
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SubDdaftykins: yea, and I can putty to it, just cant access it's shares16:26
_Marcuslinelevel: Besides, you know, the manufactorer16:26
LmAtin man pages, what does "(1)" mean?16:26
daftykinsSubD: what's changed since it did work?16:27
firasbazhang, when i boot ubuntu i dont have a display manager.... so i cant do anything with this distro16:27
bazhangfiras, so you use startx? what happened to lightdm?16:28
SubDdaftykins: all I did was deleting a folder within a shared folder, and restarting, nothing else that I can think of16:28
sipiorLmAt: it's a category number. (1) refers to executables. have a look at "man man" for more information.16:28
LmAtsipior; thanks!16:28
firasi don't know what's startx, i cant use lightdm nor gdm16:28
daftykinsSubD: no upgrades recently?16:28
firasi don't know what happened16:29
bazhangfiras, what happened to get to that state?16:29
daftykinsSubD: is the share completely open for guest access or is it password locked?16:29
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firasi used apt-get dist-upgrade --fix-missing -f for my 11.0416:29
SubDI did upgrade from 10.04 to 10.04.4, but that a little before the trouble16:29
bazhangfiras, dist-upgrade does NOT change versions16:30
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patrunjelHi, do you know some software that does what YUMI does (that's allow you to install more than one os on one media, then lets you choose at boot time which one you want to boot) that works under linux?16:30
_johnnyhi, i'm trying to set up auto-login with a user/pw account using lightdm, is that possible? is that what the whitelist is for?16:30
firasbut (lsb_realese -rs) syas 11.10 so i guess it does16:30
bazhangpatrunjel, grub2 you mean?16:30
firasbazhang, but (lsb_realese -rs) syas 11.10 so i guess it does16:31
bazhangfiras, not unless you changed the sources.list manually16:31
bazhang!dist-upgrade | firas16:31
ubottufiras: A dist-upgrade will install new dependencies for packages already installed and may remove packages if they are no longer needed. This will not bring you to a new release of Ubuntu, see !upgrade if that is your intention.16:31
SubDdaftykins: I did upgrade from 10.04 to 10.04.4, but that a little before the trouble, it should have password on it. I did ad a user to samba, and made a password to the XBMC access becouse of my android remote control16:31
nitinabpatrunjel: almost all linux distrubutions at install time can identify if other operating systems are present, you only have to be careful about the partitioning of disks so you don't over write a prior os16:31
patrunjelbazhang, no, i meant, like, on a CD/pendrive on which you have ISOs of different flavours of linux16:32
FernandoCuevaI just had an issue with brasero can someone aid me? while burning a dvd image I got POWER CALIBRATION AREA IS FULL input out  error what is most likely the cause?16:32
firasbazhang, ubottu, then how it says 11.10 when it was 11.04  before dist-upgrade?16:32
bazhangfiras, you must have manually changed the sources.list .dist-upgrade does not do that otherwise16:32
daftykinsSubD: did you configure the share via samba.conf ?16:33
patrunjelnitinab, sorry, i expressed myself wrong, i meant, that lets you put more than one distro's iso on some media (pendrive/dvd), like the startup disk creator, but it has to allow me to put more than one distro on the flash drive16:33
firasi didn't , i did apt-get update, if thats what you mean16:33
nitinabpatrunjel: let me look that up16:33
firasbazhang: i didn't , i did apt-get update, if thats what you mean16:34
auronandacefiras: did you also do: do-release-upgrade16:34
firasbazhang: no, i didn't16:35
bazhangfiras, was that in response to auronandace ?16:35
sacarlsonpatrunjel: grub2 allows you to boot an iso file direct from a medium like I've seen up to 5 linux destro on one usb flash16:35
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SubDdaftykins: yes, I added this http://paste.ubuntu.com/905872/16:36
sacarlsonpatrunjel: but when booting from iso it's normaly only a temp session that is reset at each boot to a default16:36
nitinabpatrunjel: you are looking for this? http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/16:36
daftykinsSubD: ah ok that's a guest enabled share then. so no password config. run 'testparm' on that box via SSH. also, what Windows version is it trying to connect to that share?16:37
SubDdaftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/905873/ i'm running win716:39
LmAtI searched google for a while and only found a non-working solution.  How do I turn off gnome?16:39
LmAtIt said to use service gdm restart, but gdm isn't a recognized service.16:39
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auronandaceLmAt: its lightdm in 11.1016:39
LmAtAuron_Debian; thanks.16:39
daftykinsSubD: have you installed any Games for Windows Live recently? that sometimes breaks samba16:39
firasbazhang: yes, it was.16:40
firasbazhang, how can i get my distro back??16:40
LmAtauronandace; It calls itself a "symlink target for initscripts that have been converted to Upstart."  What does that mean?16:40
sacarlsonlmat: I'm not sure it turns it off but you can <ctl><alt>f2  might get you out of an X sesion16:40
SubDdaftykins: nope, all I have installed for some days is Comodo internet security16:41
LmAtsacarlson; I'm working over putty.16:41
LmAtsacarlson; I would like to make it not start up.16:41
daftykinsSubD: ah well that could possibly be messing with things16:41
hr_i want to set PATH  that  eclipse will use - where can i set this16:41
sacarlsonlmat: IC just boot like a server with no X sesion start a boot time16:41
LmAtsacarlson; how?16:42
zykotick9!text | LmAt16:42
ubottuLmAt: To start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode16:42
auronandaceLmAt: traditional initscripts are based on the sysv init system, upstart is a different init system16:42
SubDdaftykins: I've used comodo for years, and never had any trouble with it :/16:42
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firasbazhang: how can i get my ubuntu back??16:42
LmAtubottu; Thanks!16:42
ubottuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)16:42
LmAtauronandace; oh...16:43
sacarlsonLmAt: maybe like this http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/prevent-xorg-from-starting-in-ubuntu/16:43
hr_HEY i want to set PATH  that  eclipse will use - where can i set this16:43
LmAtubottu; I think your link is broken.  There's no "Text Mode" anchor on that page316:43
auronandaceLmAt: ubottu is a bot, she can't understand you16:43
LmAtsacarlson; As auronandace said, gdm isn't a service.  Does that apply here?16:44
LmAtubottu; You need to listen up.16:44
ubottuLmAt: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)16:44
LmAtubottu; Okay.16:44
sacarlsonlmat: it might be out of date for unity16:44
LmAtsacarlson; Looks like it.16:44
SubDdaftykins: I tried disabling all services in comodo, and exit it, still get that damn error :/16:44
LmAtsacarlson; So do you know how to do it using the newest ubuntu?16:44
auronandaceLmAt: gdm isn't a service because you don't have gdm installed, you have lightdm16:45
daftykinsSubD: almost sounds like it's not even running on the server end - tried restarting/starting the samba services?16:45
LmAtauronandace; right!16:45
LmAtauronandace; So I don't use gnome, I use Unity?16:45
sacarlsonLmAt: another try http://www.uptechtalk.com/?p=16216:46
auronandaceLmAt: if you have default ubuntu that means you use unity, which is built on top of gnome16:46
sacarlsonlmat: I guess I should of asked what version of ubuntu you wanted to disable X in16:46
LmAtauronandace; ahh16:46
zykotick9LmAt: in /etc/init/ just rename lightdm (or whatever) to lightdm.disabled and it should stop X from loading automatically16:47
supNowhell all... I am running ubuntu 12.04 and seem to have an input issue while gaming. I appear to be limited to only 2 keys pressed on kayboard16:47
supNowalso to use my mouse wheel I have to release all pressed keys from keyboard for it to work.. any suggestions?16:47
ansicould anyone help me.. is there some way i can get in the VLC in AWN applett list16:47
zfehello16:47
bazhangsupNow, #ubuntu+1 for that16:47
zfehow can i install libtool on ubuntu?16:47
zfein what package is it?16:47
LmAtzykotick9; Ahh, thanks.  Is everything in /etc/init/ run at boot time?16:47
supNowthanks16:47
ansicould anyone help me.. is there some way i can get in the VLC in AWN applett list16:47
auronandace!find libtool | zfe16:47
ubottuzfe: Found: libtool, libtool-doc, libglobus-libtool, libglobus-libtool-dev, libtoolbar-java16:47
zykotick9LmAt: not necessarily16:47
LmAtzykotick9; oh16:47
SubDdaftykins: I've tried restarting/stoping/starting the smbd and even reestarted and shutdown the PC, no luck there16:47
daftykinsSubD: clean starts and stops i take it? checked in the logs too?16:48
ansicould anyone help me.. is there some way i can get in the VLC in AWN applett list16:48
sushilhi; is there a different channel for slightly advanced configuration help/problems (like downgrading the kernel version)16:48
zfelibtool-dev cannot be found16:48
sfsf328===D~~16:48
KM0201zfe: what program are you installing that requires it?16:49
LmAtzykotick9; What is the difference between /etc/init/lightdm.conf and /etc/init.d/lightdm ?16:49
SubDdaftykins: explain "clean" starts and stops please?16:49
zfeKM0201: HFST16:49
_Marcussfsf32 No spam please16:49
KM0201HFST?16:49
daftykinsSubD: no error messages spewing anger :D16:49
zfeyes, it's a finite state machine16:49
zykotick9LmAt: don't touch init.d!!!  one is upstart /init/ the other is sysv16:49
sfsf328===D~~16:49
meerkatsIm making a livecd into a usb stick with make startup disk, it is still formatting the unit. MUST it be fat32?16:49
sacarlsonSubD: did you try share something from within you /home/user directory with nautilus ?  just right click a subdir in your /home/user/try  and select share16:49
_Marcussfsf32: Please stop.16:49
meerkatsits taking too long to format, the unit is empty16:49
sfsf328===D~~16:50
sipiorsfsf32: a little optimistic with your equal signs, i imagine.16:50
SubDdaftykins: ah lol, yeah clean start stop etc. no errors16:50
LmAtzykotick9; So upstart replaces /sbin/init...what is /sbin/init?  and what is /etc/init16:51
dellwould someone give that kid the boot already?16:51
zfesudo apt-get install libtool should work, right?16:51
zykotick9LmAt: no i mean /etc/init is upstart and /etc/init.d is sysv16:51
SubDsacarlson: I dont have X installed, besides the deafult XBMC one16:51
LmAtzykotick9; How do I tell what commands "service lightdm" takes?16:51
zykotick9LmAt: init - that's upstart16:52
Myrttisfsf32: if you want to be unmuted, you're welcome to discuss your behaviour with me in pm16:52
LmAtHow do I tell what commands to send to "service lightdm" ?16:53
jribLmAt: man initctl?16:54
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auronandaceLmAt: common commands are start stop and restart16:54
LmAtjrib;  So you're saying that "service lightdm --session" will connect to init(8) daemon using the D-Bus session bus?16:54
ansicould anyone help me.. is there some way i can get in the VLC in AWN applett list16:54
ansicould anyone help me.. is there some way i can get in the VLC in AWN applett list16:54
ansicould anyone help me.. is there some way i can get in the VLC in AWN applett list16:54
FloodBot1ansi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.16:54
sushilhi; when i downgrade my kernel and reboot, i get error in syslog and ubuntu(not the kernel) doesn't start; "rsyslogd: rsyslogd's groupid changed to 103"16:55
LmAtauronandace; Is there any enumeration of all commands?  Or, where are those commands documented?16:55
ansicould anyone help me.. is there some way i can get in the VLC in AWN applett list16:55
jribLmAt: no.  Read « man service »16:55
LmAtjrib; I did.  That's how I know to look it /etc/init.d16:56
jribLmAt: good. now read the init.d script.16:56
sushili think rsyslogd for some reason is not run with highest priviles/run level and ubuntu doesn't start16:56
LmAtjrib; ok16:56
LmAtjrib; I guess I should learn bash to read the script...16:56
sushilany idea where i start searching?16:56
jribLmAt: just reading the comment at the top should suffice16:57
LmAtjrib; tahnks16:57
SmartTowelanyone know how to solve the 'problem loading flash' issue in grooveshark?16:57
LmAtjrib; Can you read the lightdm comment?  It seems a bit cryptic to me :(16:57
jribLmAt: you see, it's an upstart script.  So when you use service, it really just uses /etc/init/lightdm.conf (that's why I suggested « man initctl »)16:57
LmAtjrib; hmm.  Perhaps someday I'll understand that.  Thanks for the info.16:58
jribLmAt: what did you want to accomplish?16:58
LmAtjrib; I want to learn how to stop my window manager, and I want to be able to make it not start on startup.16:59
LmAtjrib; I think I turned it off with service lightdm stop16:59
jribLmAt: window manager or desktop/login manager?16:59
LmAtjrib; Ahh, I don't know the difference.  All of it.  I only want terminals.16:59
jrib!text | LmAt17:00
ubottuLmAt: To start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode17:00
phpN00bthe scrollbar on Ubuntu is very tiny. How do I set it back the way it was before?17:00
LmAtjrib; That's not helpful because it deals with an earlier version of ubuntu.17:00
LmAtjrib; The link is broken for instance.17:00
SubDsacarlson: this is the latest logs I have from samba http://paste.ubuntu.com/905910/17:00
jribLmAt: you do the same in current ubuntu.  Append "text" to your kernel line17:00
PiciphpN00b: did you remove the overlay-scrollbar package as I suggested earlier?17:00
LmAtjrib; What's a kernel line?  Where do I find this kernel line?17:00
LmAtphpN00b; Will you advance to "phpMaster"?17:01
LmAtphpN00b; Or are you not practicinG?17:01
jribLmAt: you want this to always happen or just once?17:01
LmAtjrib; Always, and I want to be able to change it if I change my mind.17:01
phpN00bPici, I did remove the overlay package17:01
PiciphpN00b: and?17:01
phpN00boverlay-scrollbar - Scrollbar overlayed widget. Pici this one?17:02
phpN00bPici, overlay-scrollbar is already removed. Just confirmed it17:03
PiciphpN00b: Yes, that package. You may need to remove liboverlay-scrollbar-0.2-0 as well.17:03
jribLmAt: from the link ubottu gave: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode .  So edit your kernel line in your grub configuration (the first link gives manual instructions: you edit /etc/default/grub, then do an update-grub17:03
phpN00bpicca, done. going to reboot17:03
sacarlsonLmAt: all those answers were in the link I already gave you http://www.uptechtalk.com/?p=16217:04
LmAtjrib; the word "text" doesn't show up on that page.17:04
LmAtsacarlson; Yup, I'm seeing that now.17:04
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xds_how to  update  software17:04
LmAtjrib; I think sacarlson 's link is better :)17:04
jribLmAt: that's correct.  Because you already know that you need to add "text".  You just want to know how to edit grub...17:05
SubDdaftykins: this is the latest logs I have from samba http://paste.ubuntu.com/905910/17:05
xds_apt-get install17:05
xds_;17:05
LmAtjrib; OOOOO  I know that I need to add text from sacarlson 's link.17:05
jribLmAt: and from ubottu's factoid...17:05
j0biDBus.Error.NoReply - Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken."17:05
LmAtjrib; ok17:05
j0bii am trying to read a disk 1,44 mb17:05
LmAtjrib; So there's a windowing way to access the grub file...17:06
jribLmAt: i guess, though I've never used it17:06
LmAtjrib; I want to be able to do both.17:06
jribLmAt: do both what?17:06
LmAtjrib; Sorry, I was reading earlier, heard the notification, and thought you wrote something that you actually wrote a long time ago :917:07
sacarlsonlmat: any gui can be run as sudo like ;  gksudo gedit;17:07
gmachine_24Hi. Can I move (in this case) music files from one computer to another on a network using an ssh connection?17:07
xds_why do you use a disk 1.44mb17:08
LmAtsacarlson; Why are you telling me this?17:08
LmAtjrib; What is a logon manager and how do I disable it and why would I want to?17:08
sacarlsonLmAt: that's my interpretation of this line you asked: (12:06:29 AM) LmAt: jrib; So there's a windowing way to access the grub file...17:08
j0biDBus.Error.NoReply - Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken."17:08
trismgmachine_24: using scp, sure: scp -r /path/to/music_directory/ user@host:/path/to/dest;17:09
LmAtsacarlson; Nope, I didn't even know it requires sudo to edit ^_^17:09
jribLmAt: lightdm is an example of a login manager and it's init script is what's responsible for starting X.  So if you don't want X to start, you would in actually not want lightdm to start17:09
LmAtjrib; What's the difference between a window manager and login manager?17:09
dackyshawnwhat the heck is CTRL + ALT + SUPPR?17:09
dackyshawnor rather what is SUPPR17:09
LmAtdackyshawn; Super is the Windows key.17:09
LmAtYES! I answered one!! ^_^17:10
jribLmAt: window manager is what manages your windows in X after you login17:10
dackyshawni see17:10
LmAtjrib; hmm.  With lightdm, is the window manager different from the login manager?17:10
jribLmAt: yes.17:10
LmAtjrib; thanks.17:10
lateniteHi folks, where can I find the official documentation for the "auto installer" the one with preseed.cfg. I want to read about to options on partitioning.17:10
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dackyshawnLmAt: good try but guess not17:12
gmachine_24trism, and if I want to move only certain files or a folder I would make it /path/to/music_directory/name_of_folder_with_songs_in_it  ??17:12
dackyshawnlol17:12
LmAtdackyshawn; DOH!17:12
dackyshawnlooks like google says it's the delete key17:12
sacarlsonlatenite: the one I know little about that I think creates preseed.cfg is a package called kickstart,  I may have preseed.cfg confused with something else so17:12
LmAtdackyshawn; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_key_(keyboard_button)17:12
LmAthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_key17:12
Glomeu1hi17:13
LmAtdackyshawn; Read under "Under Unix and Unix-like operating systems it is sometimes called "Meta" or "Super"."17:13
LmAtGlomeu1; HI!17:13
latenitesacarlson, preseed is debians way to do a auto-install. Its a textfile which I need to have a documentation on.17:13
LmAtGlomeu1; Come sit and have some tea.17:13
LmAtGlomeu1; Is there some way we can help you?17:13
dackyshawnLmAt it's not super it's suppr17:13
Glomeu1thkx17:13
LmAtdackyshawn; doh again17:13
Glomeu1tell me17:13
LmAt4717:13
dackyshawnhttp://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ctrl-Alt-Delete17:13
Glomeu1I need to dl a game17:13
dackyshawnfrench apparently i guess17:14
Glomeu1oui :)17:14
sacarlsonlatenite: do you have any examples of a preseed.cfg file so I can compare the two17:14
LmAtdackyshawn; aaaaa17:14
trismgmachine_24: sure you can do single files to, just don't include the -r switch: scp file_1 file_2 file_3 user@host:/path/to/dest;17:14
LmAtGlomeu1; me, too.17:14
Glomeu1LmAt ok17:14
dackyshawnLmAt: i was reading this: http://blog.mansonthomas.com/2008/04/open-ssh-connection-through-proxy-with.html17:14
dackyshawngot confused when it said CTRL+ALT+SUPPR17:15
latenitesacarlson, sure https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/installation-guide/i386/preseed-using.html ist the 1st link there http://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/installation-guide/example-preseed.txt17:15
dackyshawnlol17:15
Glomeu1francais LmAt ?17:15
LmAtGlomeu1; non17:15
Glomeu1ok LmAt ?17:15
Glomeu1ok17:15
LmAtGlomeu1; I don't know why dackyshawn  sent me that link.17:15
LmAtok17:15
Glomeu1LmAt can xdcc here ?17:15
gmachine_24trism, ok, thanks. I just started using ssh even though I've used Linux >10 years. silly me.17:15
LmAtGlomeu1; I don't know what xdcc means.17:15
Glomeu1LmAt can I download here with mIrc ?17:16
cuppsySo I'm an asshole, and I tried to install LibreOffice 3.5 from PPA (which didn't work b/c of a dependency issue). So I removed LibreOffice entirely, removed the PPA and now whenever I try installing 3.4 from the normal repo, it installs but won't start up.17:16
LmAtGlomeu1; Download my game?  sure.17:16
LmAtGlomeu1; I don't think I have a game to give you, though...unless...17:16
cuppsyNo error thrown, even when launched from terminal. Just a split-second splash screen and then nothing.17:16
Glomeu1lol ok :)17:17
Glomeu1I want to donwload Mass effect 217:17
trismgmachine_24: no problem, always new things to learn17:17
LmAtGlomeu1; I don't have it.17:17
Glomeu1ok17:17
LmAtGlomeu1; Never heard of it.17:17
Glomeu1LmAt you know where I can dll this ?17:17
LmAtGlomeu1; Nope.  Is it free?17:18
Glomeu1no but it's a old game now17:18
LjL!piracy | Glomeu117:18
cuppsyAnyone know, if nothing's showing in the terminal, if there's a log in /var that'll tell me what's causing LO not to load?17:18
ubottuGlomeu1: piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music, and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o17:18
Glomeu1oh ! sorry17:18
LmAtjrib; http://askubuntu.com/questions/73922/grub-cmdline-linux-default-text-is-not-working17:19
cuppsyGlomeu1: Did you just refer to Mass Effect 2 as an "old game"?... :P17:19
LmAtjrib; Suggests that grub editing won't help :(17:19
Bitvilaghi everyone17:19
LmAtcuppsy; I think he was trying to tease it out of me..17:19
jribLmAt: yes it will.  Did it not work for you?17:19
Glomeu1because in the shop, they don't have the game17:19
cuppsyLmAt: Ah, nvm then. Was feeling extra old for a moment, haha.17:19
LmAtjrib; I'm trying to figure out all the options for GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT and I found this.17:19
auronandaceGlomeu1: buy it off ebay17:20
LmAtcuppsy; There is a Mass effect 3 I see.17:20
bazhangGlomeu1, dont ask for warez here17:20
Glomeu1auronandace ok17:20
Bitvilagjust wondering how to switch a if statement like if [ -f .lockfile ] but the opposite17:20
jribLmAt: look at the date (there was a bug when 11.10 was first released where the lightdm script did not check for the option but now it does)17:20
jribBitvilag: #bash17:20
LmAtjrib; goodness.  Thanks.17:20
Glomeu1so I saw it cost 10 euros17:20
delinquentmeis there a ubuntu reposity browser which is like a stripped down browser for text only b rowsing?17:20
Bitvilag#bash17:20
Bitvilag<17:20
Glomeu1it's the reason why I want to dl this game :/17:20
Bitvilag?17:20
bazhangGlomeu1, is there an ubuntu support issue you had?17:21
jribdelinquentme: w3m links2 elinks17:21
delinquentmejrib, any of those have a GUI?17:21
auronandaceGlomeu1: you want a commercial game? buy it17:21
Bitvilagjrib: what do you mean?17:21
jribdelinquentme: links2 -g.  If you're just looking for a microbrowser (really light browser), then I'd recommend luakit, but also see uzbl, jumanji, surf17:22
Glomeu1bazhang just I try with irc, it's my first time on server irc17:22
jribBitvilag: visit the #bash channel for all your bash scripting needs :)17:22
llutzBitvilag: [ ! -f .lockfile ]17:22
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LmAtjrib; Okay, I did it.  Now, if I want to undo my work, I can just put quiet splash in there again?17:22
bazhangGlomeu1, #ubuntu-offtopic for chat17:22
Glomeu1auronandace ok if I don't have the choice ..17:22
jribLmAt: yes (and run update-grub)17:22
Bitvilagjrib oh right thanks17:22
Bitvilagllutz: thanks17:22
LmAtjrib; How the crap do I see these options documented?17:22
sacarlsonlatenite: ya it's completely different and yet totaly the same,  another completely different way of doing the same thing17:22
llutzBitvilag: "man test" and #bash17:23
Glomeu1bazhang ok17:23
jribLmAt: don't know of a canonical place.  The kernel documentation will have many but I imagine this "text" one is a bit special...17:23
sacarlsonlatenite: too bad they don't have a gui like kickstart for it yet.  or do they?17:23
LmAtjrib; lightdm is the program that handles these options, right?  You're just passing them to the kernel ... environment? ... through grub?17:24
jribLmAt: lightdm's init script checks if "text" was passed on the kernel line17:24
LmAtjrib; right. And what does it do when "quiet splash" is there instead?  And what about "splash"?  And what other cool options are there?  does "world domination" work?17:24
ansicould anyone help me.. is there some way i can get in the VLC in AWN applett list17:24
LmAtIf so, to what extent is world domination guaranteed?17:25
LmAtansi; That's strictly impossible.17:25
bazhangLmAt, pardon?17:25
jribLmAt: http://kernel.org/doc/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt17:25
LmAtbazhang; These are the words of the ignorant :(17:25
LmAtjrib; "quiet" and "splash" don't occur on that page.17:26
bazhangLmAt, dont answer if you dont know17:26
latenitesacarlson, not that I have heard of. All i nee dto knwo is where to find all the funny parametes like "d-i netcfg/choose_interface". because there are more to be used that there are in the example file. I just cant find a real documentation. like a project page or such alike17:26
LmAtbazhang; yessah.17:26
jribLmAt: the quiet splash ones are probably for plymouth17:26
LmAtjrib; Even "cmdline_" doesn't show up.17:26
LmAtjrib; So when I "service lightdm stop", and it stops, should I be able to use tty 7 ?17:26
LmAtjrib; I feel like I'm not done until TTY 7 is mine again...17:27
zykotick9LmAt: no, the TTYs are predetermined, stopping lightdm isn't enough17:27
jribLmAt: no, you'll only have tty1-6 (see your /etc/init/tty*17:27
SteevcaIs this a solid pc for the new ubuntu versions? http://paste.ubuntu.com/905958/17:27
tensorpuddingnot particularly17:28
LmAtjrib; So how did lightdm get terminal 7?  What's the magic sauce?17:28
tensorpuddingthat hardware is pushing a decade old17:28
jribLmAt: it probably asks for the next one that isn't used...17:28
LmAtjrib; How do I do that?17:28
tensorpuddingit probably won't support desktop effects, but i'm not 100%17:28
jribLmAt: you can copy tty1.conf to tty7.conf.  I think that's enough.17:28
LmAtjrib; There is still stuff present on ALT+CTRL+7.17:28
gridbagMy desktop is set up with 4 workspaces. When I log in , how do I get it to start firefox on WS1, and 2 terminals on WS2 ?17:29
tensorpudding1 GB of RAM is really constraining nowadays17:29
LmAtjrib; Ahh, so something reads for the existence of those tty#.conf files and creates terminals accordingly...interestin.g17:29
gridbag   ... ubuntu 11.1017:29
dackyshawnanyone here ever have any luck using Putty to ssh into a remote server from a place that uses a proxy server with ntlm17:29
dackyshawni'm sshing over port 44317:29
jribLmAt: yes, that something is "upstart"17:29
sacarlsonlatenite: this looks like a good method to create a preseed.cfg file by just captureing a real install to clone it as shown here http://pthree.org/2008/05/20/automating-debianubuntu-installs-with-preseed/17:29
trismLmAt: it is actually configurable in lightdm, check out /usr/share/doc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.gz and the minimum-vt option17:29
LmAtjrib; I'm a windows guy.  I'm amazed how this file-system dictates SO much behaviour!  I guess the "registry" is in the file system.  But also all the other drives are in the file system, and the null, etc, etc.17:29
LmAttrism; There is a conf for lightdm in the doc dir?17:30
jribLmAt: do you really need more than 6 tty's? :)17:30
LmAtjrib; No, like I said, I don't feel done until I get number 7 back ^_^17:30
trismLmAt: it is the fully documented one, there is a short one in /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf that is actually read17:30
tensorpuddingthere's more than 7 tty devices17:31
SteevcaThe minimum memory requirement for Ubuntu 11.10 is 384 MB of memory for Ubuntu Desktop.17:31
LmAttrism; Ahh, this one isn't read then?17:31
LmAttensorpudding; Where are they?  How do I access them?17:31
sstaLmAt: one of the "guiding principles" in Unix is that everything is a file17:31
trismLmAt: yes, it isn't read, just for reference17:31
sstawell, pretty much17:31
mull3tcntrl + alt +117:32
LmAtssta; Right, that's what I'm feeling...  And there are running processes.  They don't SEEM to be files...17:32
tensorpuddingLmAt, by default they're not accessible17:32
LmAtmull3t; sure.17:32
tensorpuddingi mean, not by the usual way17:32
LmAttensorpudding; ahh.  Is that what I use when I ssh?17:32
tensorpuddingno17:32
latenitesacarlson, nice thing. That might realy help me out. Let me set up a box and try that. cool thanks for that link :D17:32
bonksI did an apt-get and got disconnected from ssh, i can see it in ps aux and it is also unpacking. How do I know if it is still running?17:32
sstaLmAt: umm, look in /proc...there's a few files for every process that's running :)17:32
LmAtssta; EEK!!17:32
LmAtssta; I stand corrected.17:32
sstaLmAt: lots of things aren't files, but moth everything can be treated as a file17:32
sstas/moth/most/17:33
* LmAt "cat /proc/3"...17:33
tensorpuddingterminal emulators use a different kind of device17:33
PioneerAxonHey, I want to install GTK+ 3.4 on my Ubuntu 11.10 (64-bit) machine, but , most sites says, it will break many dependencies.. So, is it really possible to install GTK+ 3.4 in my machine without upgrading to 12.04?17:33
LmAttensorpudding; hmm17:33
LmAtssta; lol, /proc/3 is a directory!17:33
tensorpuddingPioneerAxon, it's not safe17:33
sstaLmAt: yep...there's stuff in there17:33
LmAtssta; lots of stuff!17:34
sstayep17:34
PioneerAxontensorpudding: So, you suggest me to switch to Ubuntu 12.04??17:34
tensorpuddingno17:34
sstanone of them are actual files, but you interact with them as if they are files17:34
tensorpuddingi suggest you wait for gtk 3.417:34
LmAtssta; I see /proc/3/exe  What is it?17:35
sstawhich makes programming for unix kinda cohesive...everything's a file, so you use the same sort of logic for everything17:35
ubuxubusometime unity jusy freezez-locks up totally17:35
LmAtubuxubu; just run "sudo service lightdm stop" and all your problems are over :)17:35
hsnmckI use grep with the option --exclude-dir=directory to exclude all the directories with the name directory, how can I exclude a specific directory without excluding all the subdirs having the same name, thx17:35
gridbagis there a unity-users mailing list? the unity website seems to have everything but that.17:35
sstaLmAt: it's a symlink to the actual binary that started process 317:36
LmAtssta; ahh, neato.  Hows come I can't "cat exe" ?17:36
ubuxubuwut is that lmat17:36
LmAtubuxubu; It stops the windowing manager17:36
sstaLmAt: because not everything can be catted17:36
LmAtssta; ahh17:36
sstahttp://linux.about.com/od/commands/l/blcmdl5_proc.htm17:36
PioneerAxontensorpudding: As a contributor at gnome-games, I need it ASAP. So, anyhow, can I know, how long will it take GTK 3.4 to officially appear in repos??17:36
LmAtssta; thanks!17:36
tensorpuddingoh, you're doing dev17:37
ubuxububut at that point i cant run nuthin everything is frozen17:37
ubuxubui had to crash it17:37
tensorpuddingfor complete safety you should setup 12.04 on a separate machine17:37
LmAtssta; I'm reading the environ variable and it looks like the environment vars are separated by ":"17:38
sstaLmAt: 3 is probably a special case...process IDs that are very low are probably something system related in kernelspace, or owned by init.  try a bigger number.  ls -l /proc/1234/exe.  Should be a symbolic link17:38
LmAtssta; How do I separate them by line (turn the : into \n)?  sed?17:38
PioneerAxontensorpudding: yes, I recently started contributing. So, till now, just a couple of patches..17:38
LmAtssta; sure enough, I'm on 620017:38
juan_sieirahi¡17:38
sacarlsonlatenite: I just learned from that same article that preseed.cfg file is also compatible with the kickstart file format but seems not 100% all the features are present.  so in theory you could use the kickstart gui to do most or parts of the preseed.cfg generation17:38
sstaLmAt: cat environ | tr ':' '\n'17:38
tensorpudding3.4 is not going to appear in the oneiric repos17:38
juan_sieiradoes anybody test ubuntu in a Samsung np530 14'?17:38
sstaLmAt: sed *can* do it, but it's awkward, tr works better17:39
LmAtssta; perfect.17:39
juan_sieiraI cant find any information about it17:39
meerkatsim making a live cd, why is unetbooting strapped at 5%?17:39
meerkatsdo I have to redownload the -iso?17:39
meerkatsusb permissions?17:39
latenitesacarlson, oh realy? I am on gentoo let me check if they have a kickstart-gui thing.17:39
sstaLmAt: just be careful about trying to write to stuff in /proc.  Mostly you won't be able to, but sometimes you can and can easily break stuff17:39
LmAtssta; sure.17:39
sacarlsonlatenite: kickstart is in ubuntu17:40
PioneerAxontensorpudding: okay. Will setup 12.04 on separate machine first.. And then, fully switch to it.17:40
gridbagsomething is really messed up with the "Keep in Launcher" checkbox on unity-bar icons.  You "unkeep" them.  Then you run the app from cmd-line, and "Keep" the new icon, then exit. Everytime from then on launching gives you a duplicate icon.17:40
LmAtssta; Which vnc server should I use?17:40
sacarlsonlatenite: but I guess gento would also gen a compatible preseed.cfg ?17:40
sstaLmAt: no idea, sorry...I don't tend to use vnc very often17:40
LmAtjrib; Which vnc server should I use?17:40
jrib!vnc | LmAt17:41
ubottuLmAt: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX17:41
tensorpudding12.04 is reasonably close to release that it might not have any show-stopping bugs17:41
jribLmAt: I do not have a specific recommendation17:41
whoeverhi all, i head that in 12 ubuntu will lose the terminal, is that true17:41
latenitesacarlson, probably not. gentoo is a litle different. But i guess I will just install ubuntu once and seee from there17:41
LmAtjrib; Thanks for the link, maybe they will suggest something...17:41
sacarlsonlatenite: ya or run it in virtualbox to find out17:41
LmAtjrib; Does unity have to be running for vnc to work?17:42
latenitesacarlson, actually I kind of do..with esxi17:42
jribLmAt: no17:42
mackdieselx27whoever - I doubt it.17:42
PioneerAxontensorpudding: Yeah. Just have bought a new machine. So, will try all black magic on that ( if needed.. :P )...17:42
LmAtjrib; What windowing system does the vnc server use?17:42
jribLmAt: it depends on the server17:42
LmAtjrib; ok.17:42
sacarlsonlatenite: I think kickstart is a gtk gui so whatever that takes I guess17:42
LmAtjrib; So vino perhaps uses the existing desktop.17:43
whoevermackdieselx27: will there be any gui changes that would deture a power user from useing17:43
jribLmAt: I think so, yes17:43
bazhangwhoever, of course it wont17:43
jribwhoever: poweruser would just install his own gui :)17:43
LmAtjrib; So, using unity, is there a preferred vnc server?17:43
LmAtjrib; I see a kde one17:43
Piciwhoever: #ubuntu+1 is for support and discussion of 12.04 at this time. #ubuntu is for releases that have already been released.17:43
whoevermackdieselx27: it looks like ubuntu is tring to mimic windows17:43
jribLmAt: I don't know -- I don't use unity17:43
LmAtjrib; ok17:43
mackdieselx27whoever - what jrib said.  I'm not using Unity.17:43
atlas__I have a shell script that I'd like to run every boot after gnome loads, where do I place the .sh file??17:43
bazhangwhoever, thats not a support question17:44
bonksI did an apt-get and got disconnected from ssh, i can see it in ps aux and it is also unpacking. How do I know if it is still working?17:44
mull3t/etc/rc.d/rc.local17:44
LmAtjrib; oops! http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186170717:44
whoeverjrib: ya but the way it  is going it looks like the defaults will only be desired by the beginner17:44
jribLmAt: old post, see if it affects you (trust bugs.ubuntu.com more than forums since the latter will get updated and reviewed more17:45
whoeverPici: thx17:45
mackdieselx27whoever - To be fair and answer your question you can choose your flavor of Ubuntu as the underlying base will be the same.  You just have to find the desktop environment that suits you.17:45
LmAtjrib; former?17:45
swright007Everyone waiting on the new beta ?17:46
jribwhoever: I wouldn't mind discussing it with you more in #ubuntu-offtopic (default choices in ubuntu that hurt the power user)17:46
whoevermackdieselx27: thx, just had to check and make sure17:46
mackdieselx27Of course.17:46
sstaswright007: nah...I'll wait for release.  I'm too old and cynical to want to cope with the inevitable breakage :)17:46
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whoeverand the channel iS "ubuntu+1", not "ubuntu1"?\17:47
gridbagwhy does everything like "Ubuntu Software Center" take 5 seconds to load?17:47
whoeverjrib: Thx, see you in a sec17:47
meerkatsok, now that I have failed to make a live cd in a ust stick im trying with a dvd-r17:48
ssfdre38why not use a cd-r?17:48
mull3tdvd-rw17:48
sacarlsonmeerkats: how could you fail to make a live usb boot disk?17:48
PioneerAxontensorpudding: Thanks a lot..17:49
swright007Image from now on will be too big17:49
meerkatssacarlson, noob, tried unetbooting and startup disk creator and both froze17:49
meerkatsdamn lag17:49
meerkatssacarlson, I have reformatted the usb unit twice with gparted to ext4 and ntfs but still nothing17:50
sacarlsonmeerkats: oh I guess it broke then17:50
swright007burning a boot DVD is the easiest if you don't mind using the disc to do it17:50
gridbagAre others getting the "developer's build" when they install "Chromium Web Browser" ?  It tells you when you bring up the "about:" URL.17:50
meerkatsswright007, yes I do mind wasting a 4.8GB dvd-r for a ubuntu 11.10 live cd...17:51
meerkatsbut I dont have a lot of options here17:51
meerkatsand I dont use a cd cause I dont have any17:51
zandtI'm running boot-repair liveusb because I fudged grub up.... but for some reason I can't mount my HDD or my linux system. I'm getting a 'special device not found' error. I've never this error | have no idea what's going17:51
itaylor57gridbag, what version of ubuntu are you running?17:51
swright00711.10 is still small enough for CD.... 12.04 is DVD size minimum17:51
zandt(sorry for the repeat, net died on me)17:51
sacarlsonmeerkats: well do you have any linux on a hard disk with grub2 still working?17:52
meerkatsswright007, im so noob I dont know if dvd-R means Rewritable...17:52
gridbagitaylor57, im on 11.10.  My chrome says it is 17.0.963.79 in the about: .17:52
meerkatssacarlson, the one Im using right now...17:52
caoticHi, i am trying to rename a bunch of files (basically change all spaces for underscores, I have tried rename 's/ /_/g' ./* and rename 's/\ /_/g' ./* am i missing something ?17:53
swright007That is OK .. we were all new to Ubuntu because it is always changing .. :)17:53
sacarlsonmeerkats: linux?  oh then there is another option to add an entry in grub2 boot menue to boot direct an iso file17:53
itaylor57gridbag, sorry i thought you said chromium, i don't use chrome17:53
meerkatssacarlson, so I copy the .iso into the usb stick, and doing nothing else to it, reboot the craptop and select the fifth option of the boot menu?17:54
itaylor57!info | chromium-browser17:54
ubottu'chromium-browser' is not a valid distribution: hardy, hardy-backports, hardy-proposed, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, lucid, lucid-backports, lucid-proposed, maverick, maverick-backports, maverick-proposed, medibuntu, natty, natty-backports, natty-proposed, oneiric, oneiric-backports, oneiric-proposed, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, stable, testing, unstable17:54
llutzcaotic: "rename 's/ /_/g'  *"  should do fine17:54
meerkatssacarlson, not exactly what I want to do: my ubuntu 11.10 is very unstable, it gets more unstable with every update17:54
zandtbrb17:54
cuppsyAnyone have their icons and images go missing from LibreOffice 3.5?17:55
meerkatssacarlson, I thoguh adding a live 11.10 cd to sources would give stability, as the machine would check the downloaded information with the written information in the iso17:55
gridbagitaylor57, huh? I'm talking about "Chromium Web Browser"17:55
meerkatsi need to add a working copy of 11.10 to my software sources17:55
caoticIt returns nothing nor changes are performed17:56
gridbagitaylor57, I want the latest stable chromium browser, whatever that's called.  This is so confusing.17:56
Shojois there a channel for android?17:56
swright007Nope, but Libra Office randomly logs me off my session.  Thank goodness for auto-save.   I still have to retype the last page or so when it happens17:56
ftwcaotic: http://pastebin.com/aX1tU8gQ is a script I use to remove spaces and capitals from filenames17:56
caoticllutz: ^17:57
Shojooh ye17:57
caoticftw: Ill take a look17:57
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sacarlsonmeerkats: all you really need that's stable it the grub mbr sector all the reset comes from the iso file http://ansi.23-5.eu/2011/10/21/howto-boot-iso-images-via-grub2-with-ubuntu/17:57
sacarlsonmeerkats: install iso direct from harddisk is like 10 times faster than off a cd drive17:58
brijithmachi17:58
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ubottuakahitman: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.18:00
sacarlsonmeerkats: oh and there is one more technical problem with this, you would need a second hard disk to install it on or posibly a secound prepartition already on the disk to be installed18:00
meerkatssacarlson, you mean for the link you justa gave me?18:00
sacarlsonmeerkats: yes18:01
sacarlsonmeerkats: because you wouldn't be able to change any partitions on the disk that the iso file resides on18:01
btorchanyone here using raid controllers with lucid on a 3.0.X kernel ? I have 3 PERCs , 1 integrated and two H800 pci ... for some reason with 3.0 the H200 devices are now seen last18:02
meerkatssacarlson, please confirm that adding a working copy of 11.10 to software sources effectively renders the machine more stable18:02
meerkatsor, am I jumping on conclusions?ç18:02
sacarlsonmeerkats: it's I'm not sure 11.10 is any more stable than what you already run,  but it would be what it is 11.10 ubuntu18:03
dackyshawnbtorch: do  they show up in the RAID card's BIOS?18:03
btorchthe h200 (integrated) used to be sda and sdb ... now they come as sdcm and sdcn after the 90 drives from the jbods are mounted18:04
meerkatsim hungry im leaving18:04
zandtback18:04
zandttake care meerkats18:04
btorchdackyshawn: the drives show up just fine ... it's just that how the kernel decided to re-order everything18:04
PrivateReesehey someone online how can help me with ubuntultsp installation and configuration with an IPFIRE OS?18:08
escottbtorch, enumeration order has never been guaranteed18:08
zandttrying to mount my linux partition from a live usb (boot-repair) because my grub isn't showing up on boot. http://pastebin.com/ay60ab1s this is my fdisk -l output. when I 'mount /dev/sda5 /mnt' I get 'mount: special device /dev/sda5 does not exist' ?18:08
savrhi whats the apt get flag not to ask yes to updates?18:09
btorchI get that .. I use udev rules to create symlinks which helps ... it's just strage that 2.6 kernel sees the h200 devices first and then the h800s but 3.0 goes the other way around18:09
escottbtorch, 3.0 has updated astrological tables and properly calculates the position of jupiter so now the ordering is done correctly when jupiter is in the 5th house18:10
dr_williszandt:  does ls -l /dev/sda5 show a device?18:10
btorch:)18:10
bazhangsavr, from the apt-get man page?18:11
zandtdr_willis, 'cannot access /dev/sda5: no such file or directory'18:11
savrbazhang: you are going to make me man this18:11
savris it -f18:11
zandtit's not seeing sda1, either. (which is my windows partition, which I can boot into normally)18:12
bazhangsavr, are you talking about unattended installs?18:12
savryes18:12
sstasavr: -y18:13
savrgreat18:13
savrthanks18:13
zandtdr_willis, I'd like to give it a try from a ubuntu based live usb... do you have a recommendation for one that doesn't require much ram ?18:14
zandtor anyone for that matter :)18:14
dr_williszandt:  try lubuntu i guess. for a mini live-cd i tend to use tiny core linux - its in the 10-40mb range. :)18:14
bazhangzandt, lubuntu18:14
zandtthanks. I will probably see you all again in a bit :P18:15
zandttake care until then18:15
dackyshawnanyone know if it's possible with linux to find out if a filesystem is thin provisioned18:17
dackyshawn(linux is the guest OS)18:17
meem1029Does anyone have any ideas why the sound for a video I'm watching gets killed constantly. When I listen, it's extremely stuttery. I opened the sound panel to look at it, and the flash player sound application keeps flashing on and then being deleted. This only happens in chrome and firefox as well as other music applications work fine.18:18
swright007All of CHrome's drivers are built in, so it is definitely a Chrome issue18:19
swright007Try uninstalling Chrome, rebooting, then installing Chrome from scratch again18:19
meem1029Oh, just remembered that I had tried the html5 trial for youtube. Disabling that worked. I'm very confused now.18:20
bilal_hi i have hp mini note book, i want use wifi but note book not connected with wifi any person tell how note book connect with wifi18:20
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angsuusi mene syntynyt18:21
Flash_i got update via update manager and since than i'm not able to play flash content from webcites? What could i do? I'm on ubuntu 11.10 64bit18:21
meem1029What browser are you using? Can you try a different one to see if it works?18:22
bilal_tell me plzz18:22
go8765_P i have some troubles with vlc. can anbody help me please? vlc dont show video18:23
Flash_i have tried both chromium and firefox18:23
bilal_hi i have hp mini note book, i want use wifi but note book not connected with wifi any person tell how note book connect with wifi18:24
bazhang!patience | bilal_18:24
ubottubilal_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/18:24
econdudeawesomeI hope this is the right place to ask. Since tsclient is incompatible with 11.10, I'm giving remmina a chance. How do I share my hard drive over the connection?18:24
dackyshawnanyone here ever have experience setting up an xmpp server that could be used for encrypted IM communications?18:25
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ETronikHello All!  One Migration from WIndows->Ubuntu is under threat of reverting back to Windows - only due to intermittent printing problems... help! are there reported problems with Ubuntu 11.10 and OKI B4600 (BW Laser) ?18:26
bazhangETronik, what does linuxprinting.org say about that printer18:26
dackyshawnETronik: is that a network printer or USB?18:26
ETronikThe buggers seems to print like once a day, then refuse to print...18:27
ETronikUSB printer18:27
dackyshawnoh beats me then... i've had soo many issues with usb printers and linux lol18:27
dackyshawnnot blaming linux... blaming myself18:27
ETroniklinuxprinting? checking...18:28
ETronikit would be a shame to revert a PC in a Small office back to windows...18:28
bazhangETronik, did you check the link?18:29
ETroniklinuxprinting redirected to http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/openprinting  - is this right ?18:29
gridbagHow do you autostart an app upon login on 11.10 ?   all the stale webpages in google are driving me crazy!18:29
bazhanggridbag, in startup applications ?18:30
ETronikbazhang: where do I start ? can I search the printer ?18:30
ETronikah! got it18:30
bazhangETronik, there's a database there, yes18:30
gridbagbazhang: hey, so that's where you turn off the sound. looking into "Startup Applications..." now. thx.18:31
ETronikwell, I'll need the printer with me...18:33
ETronikcheck that out later18:33
ETronikbazhang: thanks, maybe see you later18:33
satyanashdackyshawn, you could use client side encryption using the Plugin Encryption for Pidgin..18:33
satyanashdackyshawn, that way.. you can have encryption on existing accounts of which the servers do not belong to you..18:34
dackyshawnsatyanash: have u ever used openfire?18:36
IanWizardAnybody know how to remove the extra columns and rows from LibreImpress?18:38
jinx__ya i know how to remove extra columns and rows18:40
jinx__from libreimpress18:40
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debian_noobis webcam support out of the box?18:41
debian_noobi have a really ancient webcam18:41
debian_noobIBM ultraport18:41
debian_noobcheese isnt detecting it18:41
debian_noob and i cant find a /dev/video18:41
IanWizardjinx__: thx, that's what I needed :)18:43
meerkatscan I burn ubuntu.iso and kubuntu.iso into a dvd-r and my machine still give me the option, when booting, to choose one of the 2?18:43
jinx__merkats   no18:43
jinx__one iso onedvd18:44
Godzillameerkats: while I believe that it can be hacked, I've never managed.18:44
meerkatsjinx__, would I render the dvd-r unusable or would it select one automatically?18:44
MonkeyDustmeerkats  you can do that on a pendive, with multisystem18:44
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MonkeyDustpendrive*18:44
Godzillameerkats: well, it would burn the first, and then be un-writable.18:44
meerkatsMonkeyDust, I tried the pendrive and failed, i still dont know why18:44
jinx__meerkats: pendrive is good option18:44
meerkatsi know its a good option, I wanted that in the 1st place, but the livecd creator stops at 5%18:45
meerkatsalways18:45
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meerkatsdoes the sysfile has to be FAT?18:45
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Godzillajinx__: so really, *how*, can I remove the extra cols/rows from libre?18:46
Godzilla:)18:46
jinx__Godzilla: just right click on the column or row and in row option delete wil come18:47
Mene-MeneSuspend seems to work rather slowly, possibly slower than a full boot up, is there something I can do to help performance there?18:48
Godzillajinx__: no no... It auto adds rows / columns as you scroll, I don't want that.  it's a fixed length, and I don't want the extra rows.18:48
meerkatsgoing on again with the damned usb stick to make a live cd... would it be a good idea to use gparted to format it to fat32?18:50
meerkatsor would it be better to let the startup disk creator do it?18:50
jinx__godzilla: right click and delete option will come18:51
Godzillameerkats: I tend to do it myself, to be srue18:51
Godzilla*sure18:51
malmanybody knows how to remove permissions on /media/sdb118:52
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meerkatsmalm, if thats related, i do not18:52
malmmeerkats: what do u meen18:53
roastedUnity Question - is it possible to rearrange the items in dash view? I'd really like to have my default view as the list of applications on my system instead of having to click a few options in order to get there.18:53
malmmean18:53
Godzillaroasted: wait for next mo18:53
Godzillanth18:53
Godzilla*month18:54
roastedGodzilla: is it a feature to be in 12.04?18:54
meerkatsorg.freedesktop.UDisks.Error.Inhibited: Daemon is inhibited18:54
meerkatswhen trying to make a live cd into the usb18:54
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Godzillaroasted: I know that it's all changing, to be ALOT better.18:54
meerkatsmalm, I do not know how to remover permissions on any given partition, i believe...18:54
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roastedGodzilla: Unity is undoubtedly better in 12.04 (I have a laptop running 12.04 at the moment too). But even on 12.04 I haven't seen an option to customize the lens. I wasn't sure if there was a way or not. I've only started using Unity recently...18:55
frederik_gibts hier auch einen Anfänger Channel ? :D18:55
malmøv18:56
Godzillaroasted: ohh, perhaps not then.  it lacks alot of customization options18:56
LjL!de | frederik_18:56
ubottufrederik_: In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!18:56
roastedGodzilla: :(18:56
maximiliusguys, i have constant skipping when i listen to MP3 files - how can i troubleshoot this?18:56
Godzillamaximilius: try mplayer18:56
Godzillamaximilius: does it still skip?18:56
maximiliusi tried audacious rhythmbox and banshee18:57
gridbagIn Startup Applications, I put a chromium-browser entry.  But it shows up underneath the left unity toolbar.  How do you avoid that?18:57
malmmeerkats: how do i use the extra drive space for my backup files18:58
meerkatsmalm, dont ask the noob18:59
maximiliusany other suggestions?18:59
satyanashdackyshawn, yes. I have.19:02
danileigh79sorry for all the log In log outs... experImentIng wIth runnIng IrssI In termInal through vnc19:04
jacklkwindow 119:05
danielbwhey hey hey19:07
danielbwbeen a long time and i see names i remember19:07
danielbw=)19:07
danielbw!seen brianw19:08
ubottuI have no seen command19:08
danielbw!help19:08
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience19:08
jacklkIs there a way to install Gnome on Ubuntu 11.04?19:09
Fyodorovnajacklk, in the past I have seen do not install info in that release, looking at google I see nothing new.19:14
oxidizer_hi19:15
bazhang!gnome3 | jacklk19:15
ubottujacklk: GNOME 3 is the desktop environment on which Unity is based.  To use GNOME Shell instead of Unity, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool". GNOME 3 is not supported under Natty/11.04, and may break your system if installed from alternate sources.19:15
sudiptawhat is the channel for ubuntu 12.04?19:15
jacklkubottu: I am using 11.04.19:15
ubottujacklk: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)19:15
bazhang#ubuntu+1 sudipta19:15
bazhangjacklk, yes, and gnome3 is not supported/will break on that19:16
sudipta<bazhang>thanks19:16
jacklkbazhang: Alright then.19:16
jacklkI'll just update my system tomorrow. Unity on 11.10 is so laggy, it's not really usable on my netbook.19:17
bazhang!notunity | jacklk19:17
ubottujacklk: Ubuntu 11.10 uses GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic19:17
Fyodorovnajacklk, you might bump the ram, I have a netbook with 2 gigs and a 1.6 atom runns very nice.19:17
FelishiaHI!... :)19:18
Felishianeed help _(19:18
Felishia:(19:18
Logan_!ask | Felishia19:18
ubottuFelishia: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience19:18
Felishiaokay... I get this problem no acceptable c compiler found in $PATH19:19
FelishiaI suppose I don't have gcc installed19:19
Felishiabut I also do not have internet at home19:19
bazhangFelishia, install build-essential19:19
Felishiaand I have no idea how to install it properly19:19
Felishiahow to?19:19
FelishiaI'm super-begginer at this19:20
FelishiaI also need 'make'19:20
Logan_Felishia: Type "sudo apt-get install build-essential" (without the double quotes) into a Terminal command.19:20
bazhangFelishia, with the package manager19:20
Felishiaokay okay19:20
FelishiaI tried that19:20
Felishiabut I have no internet19:20
Felishiaso it doesn't download anything I need to get the packages myself19:20
FelishiaI downloaded blender that way from another computer and it worked.19:21
chrispercolHi, I look after a lot of remote ssh terminals/rdp sessions. Is anyone aware of software that would help me manage them? Something like mremote on windows which also has a builtin text editor?19:21
bazhang!offline | Felishia19:21
ubottuFelishia: If you need to download Ubuntu packages using another machine or OS, check the desired packages in Synaptic and select File > Generate package download script. Alternatively, try http://ubottu.com/ljl/apt/ - See also !APTonCD19:21
Felishiaok let's see I go to Synaptic19:23
Felishiabut I didn't understand that of how to Generate packages download scripts19:23
roastedUnity Question - is it possible to change some items around in the dash view? I'd really like it to default to showing me ALL of my applications, instead of having to click at the bottom for my apps then click "see more results" to see everything. Is this possible?19:23
Felishiaand what's that of what distribution do I have? :s19:24
kristianpaulHi19:24
kristianpaulWhat was the gnuradio ppa for precise?..19:24
FelishiaI know the architecture is i386 but what's the distribution thing? :s19:24
FelishiaI just know I use the last lubuntu19:25
Felishialatest19:25
FelishiaI found files with deb extensions... is that what I need to install?19:26
meerkatsdoes startup disk need usb stick in FAT?19:28
cookieHELLO WORLD!19:30
FelishiaLOL19:30
jacklkFyodorovna: do you have an Eee PC?19:30
roastedUnity Question - is it possible to change some items around in the dash view? I'd really like it to default to showing me ALL of my applications, instead of having to click at the bottom for my apps then click "see more results" to see everything. Is this possible?19:31
cookieroasted: yes19:31
roastedcookie: how?19:31
cookieroasted: go into terminal and type rm -f /19:32
roastedyeah, no19:32
roastedsomeone ban please19:32
cookielol19:32
roastedthere is no lol here19:32
cookieLOOOOL19:32
cookieloooolllll19:32
cookieEL19:32
cookieOH19:32
cookieEL19:32
FloodBot1cookie: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.19:32
Ben64!ops | cookie19:32
roastedthat's not even remotely funny because a new user in here could easily do that19:32
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Felishiathank you all!... now I gotta go... have a wonderful day ;) you saved my life19:32
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cookieroasted: cry moar19:32
Logan_!danger19:33
ubottuDO NOT RUN THAT COMMAND! That particular command is DANGEROUS and shouldn't be uttered here. REST OF YOU: DANGER, WILL ROBINSON, DANGER! Do not use the command or utter it here thank you!19:33
cbfarrandHello, is this the place to ask printer questions?19:33
Ben64its the place to ask any ubuntu questions19:34
MrChrisDruifcbfarrand; only in congestion with Ubuntu as operating system =)19:34
cbfarrandhad to replace router, need to get printer set up with new router19:34
ejvi think the word you want is connection, not congestion19:35
aeon-ltdcbfarrand: if you're using ubuntu it is19:35
ejvor perhaps 'conjunction'19:35
roastedcbfarrand: #networking might be better unless its specifically about getting the printer working on ubuntu19:35
MrChrisDruifejv; prolly conjunction19:35
ejvconjunction junction, whats your function?19:35
* ejv is that old, yes19:35
cbfarrandprinter is on the router, MS machines are connected, need to connect Ubuntu machine19:35
* sevith was there.19:35
MrChrisDruif!printing | cbfarrand19:36
ubottucbfarrand: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows19:36
ejvi hear that Ray Charles was the vocals behind many of that era's educational "school house rock" videos19:36
mneptokbbl. hookin' up words and phrases and clauses.19:36
ejvinteresting eh? :)19:37
guntbertejv: wrong window?19:37
mumbles__hi all - have a stragne problem - my ubuntu 3.0.0-16 install stops booting after " setting sensor limits"  have done all updates but still no luck19:37
ejvnever!19:37
guntbert!ot | ejv  in that case19:38
ubottuejv  in that case: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!19:38
ejvyes obviously19:38
mcloy how to  download a complete webpage including html files, pics, js and css scripts     to that i can brows it offline ?19:38
ejv!obvious | guntbert19:39
ejvdoh :p19:39
Bitvilagmcloy: do you have ftp access?19:39
guntbertmcloy: look at wget19:39
ejvthx mneptok :)19:39
MrChrisDruifOr curl?19:39
mcloyBitvilag,  no that is not my site19:39
Bitvilagthen as guntbert said wget is ur program19:39
mcloyguntbert,  i cant handle wget commands. iam just a desktop user19:40
sevithw3m perhaps?19:40
mcloyguntbert,  how to do it by wget ?19:40
ejvmcloy: man wget19:40
mneptok!info gwget | mcloy19:40
ubottumcloy: Package gwget does not exist in oneiric19:40
* mneptok blinks19:40
guntbertmcloy: open a terminal, then do as other said ...19:41
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guntbertmneptok: wget not gwget :)19:41
ejvi suppose manning commands isn't very useful if on is terminal adverse...19:41
ejvs/on/one/19:41
ubuntu_hi all19:41
ubuntu_maybe someone knows  how much free space requires 10.04 for installing?19:41
cookiesubuntu_: 1tb, I think.19:41
mneptokguntbert: i don;t use it, so ... :)19:41
ubuntu_oO19:42
ubuntu_cookies, improbable19:42
cookiesubuntu_: hey you asked, don't argue with me if you don't like the answer.19:42
ubuntu_11.04 requires 4.5gb19:42
ejvubuntu_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements19:42
mneptokguntbert: wait ... no. wrong. you just typed "wget" again. there's a GTK front-end called something ....19:42
MrChrisDruifcookies; don't say stuff that is false19:42
cookiesOk, 11.04 is better on memory.19:42
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cookiesMrChrisDruif: I like you19:42
ejvahh good old google19:43
cookiesbut that's a ie19:43
cookieslie*19:43
maXXerejv, tnx :p19:43
guntbertmneptok: ah, I didn't know about that, thought you mistyped19:43
guntbert!ot | cookies19:43
ubottucookies: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!19:43
cookies!ot | guntbert19:43
ubottuguntbert: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!19:43
meerkatshelp, I cannot create a live cd its stucked here: http://imagebin.org/20574019:44
mneptokcookies: again? really?19:44
mcloyguntbert,  how to do it by wget ?19:44
ejvi like him, adds a bit of comedy when they are forcibly removed.19:44
cookiesmneptok: if you do not have a question for support. Please refrain from disrupting the channel.19:44
dlentz!op cookies19:45
dlentzoh19:45
mneptokwrong answer.19:45
guntbertmcloy: sorry, I got distracted19:45
yokaiany help on how to install printer driver on ubuntu?19:45
ejvi believe the term is "Schadenfreude" ;)19:46
yokails19:46
maXXerbye!19:46
dlentzyokai, what printer driver?19:46
ejvyokai: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers <-- best to start here19:46
yokaiI am trying to install an old ID card Printer P310C19:46
yokaifrom Eltron19:47
yokaiI checked online and I am not getting anywhere19:47
dlentzyokai, do you have the driver?19:48
yokaisomeone wrote a tar.gz for linux19:48
dlentzlink?19:48
tdlamhi folks19:48
yokaiand I think it was for mandrake19:48
alain__hi19:48
yokaidoes that make a difference?19:48
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tdlamhey Im using xubuntu...is this the right place to discuss a printer issue?19:49
dlentzmandrake? must be an old driver, but it could work19:49
guntbertmcloy:  I suggest creating an empty directory first and changing into this:      mkdir webdir  ; cd webdir19:49
ejvif there was actual source code provided, with some skill/luck it may be able to be adapted.19:49
dlentztdlam, yes19:49
tdlamok ty dlentz19:50
yokaiI thought so but has not gotten further19:50
guntbertmcloy: then     wget -r http://your.favorite.site/path/to/the/place19:50
tdlammy issue is that I have an epson workforce 520...it prints ok but wont scan...19:50
roastedUnity Question - is it possible to change some items around in the dash view? I'd really like it to default to showing me ALL of my applications, instead of having to click at the bottom for my apps then click "see more results" to see everything. Is this possible?19:50
tdlamrunning xubuntu 11.1019:50
yokaiI decompress the files but ... cannot run19:51
dlentzyokai, do you have a link to the drvier?19:51
yokaihttp://www.roberto.foglietta.name/pub/lep310c/19:51
yokaibut the guy is not saying much19:52
yokaino direction on how to proceed19:52
jodesj777Noob Question - I uninstalled packages that to me weren't necessary (Bluetooth by example) and my wifi icon is now gone in top menu bar (Unity) and can't connec't to wifi network anymore.  I have to connect through iphone internet tethering.  Any solution?19:52
tdlamthe reason why I want it to work is that I want to dump windows and use xubuntu soley for my work laptop...but if i cant get it to scan then its back to windows19:53
yokaiI have no clue on what I might even do after download19:53
tdlamanyone had any luck getting this printer to scan?19:54
yokaiput it in a folder on usr/local/scr19:54
shaopenghello19:54
yokaibut cannot get the ./configure19:54
guntbert!enter | yokai19:54
ubottuyokai: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!19:54
yokaithanks19:55
dlentzyokai, the command is ./autogen.sh , i ran it, but get errors on make19:55
CFHowlettshaopeng   greetings19:55
tdlami guess not...ok so its back to windows again...shame really as I really love this distro but until they iron out issues like this its just going to continue to be a "second rate" operating system19:56
shaopenglol19:58
yokaisorry, my system froze19:59
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cake_guyo20:00
cake_guyHello*20:00
guntbertshaopeng:  Do you have an ubuntu support question?20:00
CFHowlettcake_guy   greetings20:00
shaopengno20:00
cake_guyFor some reason, when I log into the main account on my ubuntu computer I get an error message saying that it could not access a file called "iceauthority" and it doesn't let me login, any ideas? I'm using Ubuntu Ocelet20:01
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webnetQuestion, how do i make themes and panel settings for my user system wide for all new users?20:02
yokaiit is asking me to install ĺibtool´'wonder what it is but sudo apt-get libtool display error20:02
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AlexanderchrHello, i'm trying to install ubuntu alongside windows 7 and 8 but the installer won't recognize the partions. What am i doing wrong?20:04
Alexanderchrhttp://i.imgur.com/2PjvR.png20:04
Jordan_UAlexanderchr: Most likely you have an invalid partition table. Can you pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l"?20:04
cake_guyWhen I tried to log into the main account on my ubuntu computer I get an error message saying that it could not access a file called "iceauthority" and it doesn't let me login, any ideas? I'm using Ubuntu Ocelet oneiric.20:05
Alexanderchrhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/906188/20:05
CFHowlettJordan_U  gpt as suspected...20:06
Defusalhi everyone20:06
AlexanderchrIs there anything i can do without repartioning the whole system?20:06
Defusali just want to express my extreme anger and frustration... *(@&$*#*$&#@%^&@%$*&@&*$#^*&20:07
Defusalthank you for listening. :(20:07
CFHowlettDefusal   this isn't the place for rants.20:07
Defusali'm done20:07
Jordan_UAlexanderchr: That's the problem. You have remnants of a GPT label but you don't have a protective entry in your msdos label. This most likely means that the GPT label is no longer intended to be used, fixparts can get rid of it.20:07
guntbertcake_guy: I guess you ran some graphical app as root (don't do that)   - for now we need some info, please change to a virtual terminal by pressing alt+ctrl+F220:07
roastedQuestion - is there a way when I go into my Unity dash that it defaults to the applications tab first instead of the home tab?20:07
Defusalso is my ubuntu kernel apparently20:07
Defusaland theres nothing i can do about it without physical access to the server20:07
neoman4426What is the easiest way to add a directory to PATH? All the methods I'm finding online are failing, near as I can tell /usr/games SHOULD be included, but I can't get it to work for more than the current terminal session20:08
Defusalanyone know of a safe way to downgrade my kernel over ssh without a chance of losing access to the server?20:08
Defusal:|20:08
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cake_guyguntbert: I let someone on this machine earlier, I suspect it may be that they deleted it...20:09
AlexanderchrJordan_U: Alright, i'll do some research on it. Thanks for the help :)20:09
Jordan_UAlexanderchr: "sudo apt-get install fixparts" then follow http://www.rodsbooks.com/fixparts/20:09
Jordan_UAlexanderchr: You're welcome.20:09
guntbertcake_guy: improbable, it doesn't matter if it is missing - only problem is when it is owned by root20:10
webnetanyone have a clue about globalizing themes for all new users?20:10
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Jordan_U!gksudo | cake_guy20:11
ubottucake_guy: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)20:11
guntbertcake_guy: are you in the VT already?20:11
cake_guyYes.20:11
guntbertcake_guy: log in20:12
guntbertcake_guy: please tell me when you are ready20:13
mcloyiam trying to download http://www.artificialstudio.com/ but it only downloads index.html    wget -p  or wget -r   doesnot makes it work offline20:13
jorendorffI have an Ubuntu 11.04 box that was powered off for a few months. When I turned it on, it didn't boot properly.20:14
cake_guyguntbert: me ready20:14
cake_guyI logged in.20:14
CharminTheMooseupowerd is writing to disk every few minutes and waking my disk up. I'm not running Gnome, so is it safe (i.e won't cause the system to break) to stop it executing at startup?20:15
jorendorffIt shows "Booting system without full network configuration…" and it's been sitting there for an hour or so. I can log in on Ctrl+Alt+F1; how can I find out what's wrong?20:15
guntbertcake_guy: paste the output of    ls -l .ICEauthority              (use <tab> to autocomplete after .IC...)20:15
cake_guyOkay.20:15
cake_guyHow do I copy in in TTY?20:16
iljohello, i need help20:16
[Si]jorendorff:20:17
guntbert!who | cake_guy20:17
ubottucake_guy: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)20:17
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dman420is there a way to list every file in a directory then put all those files in a text file to read later20:18
dlentzcake_guy, ctrl+shift+c\20:18
iljoi try to change a users password using usermod -p <pass> <username> and it doesn't work... it is essential i use this command to change the pass20:18
guntbertcake_guy: I forgot, install pastebinit:     sudo apt-get install pastebinit,    then       ls -l .ICEauthority  | pastebinit      and tell me the URL20:18
guntbertdlentz: no, he is in a VT20:18
jorendorffdman420: ls dirname > filename.txt20:18
iljoalso, when i try to login with a newly created user, it just goes back to login screen, and i've made his shell /bin/bash20:18
[Si]jorendorff: sorry for that, does mac in the output from ifconfig match20:18
matt_symesdman420, ls -al > files.txt20:19
SmartToweli need my grooveshark back! what's up with this "Problem Loading Flash" error.  Is ANYONE getting this too?20:19
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[Si] the one in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules20:19
jorendorff[Si]: Match what? I do see a mac in the output from ifconfig -a20:19
* jorendorff looks20:19
cake_guyguntbert: Can't I just login to my other account from a regular terminal window?20:19
dman420thanks20:20
jorendorff[Si]: It does match.20:20
zandtwb meerkats20:20
[Si]jorendorff: is there just one entry in there, or is there one with an old mac?20:20
guntbertcake_guy: of course you can, I didn't expect you to have another account20:20
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jorendorff[Si]: There's only one entry in 70-persistent-net.rules .20:21
cake_guyguntbert: Ye, I'm using a guest account. :D20:21
iljoi try to change a users password using usermod -p <pass> <username> and it doesn't work. I know i can change it using passwd, but i need to use usermod.20:21
guntbert!repeat | iljo20:22
ubottuiljo: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/20:22
iljosorry20:23
sparky-iljo: why doesn't it work?  you do know the parameter to -p has to be a hashed password right?20:23
iljooh... actually i didn't know that20:23
iljohow do i get hashed password?20:24
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sparky-iljo: that's why you should read the manpage :-)  (man usermod and man crypt)20:24
sparky-iljo: one thing you could do is use the Apache utility, htpasswd20:24
cake_guyguntbert: from the command you gave me, I got 14229020:24
[Si]jorendorff: does /etc/network/interfaces have an auto entry for a nic that's missing20:24
cake_guy"142290 .ICEauthority"20:25
Upl1nkHi ppl20:25
CFHowlettUpl1nk   greetings20:25
* jorendorff looks20:25
iljohow about if i create user with useradd -p <pass> <user>, does the password need to be hashed in this case?20:25
sparky-iljo: or if you know C, you could write a trivial program that takes input from stdin, crypt() it, and spits out encrypted password via stderr20:25
guntbertcake_guy: no, the complete line please20:25
jorendorff[Si]: /etc/network/interfaces is pretty basic. auto lo; iface lo inet loopback; auto eth0; iface eth0 inet dhcp20:26
Lando_CGood <timeofday>.20:26
[Si]jorendorff: that's the two common causes I've seen of that error on boot :( sorry I can't help.20:27
mcloyi cant understand wget commands.  how to  download a complete webpage including html files, pics, js and css scripts     to that i can brows it FULLY  offline ?20:27
jorendorff[Si]: thanks for trying! :)20:28
cake_guyguntbert: That's all it gives me..20:28
Marzattamcloy: wget -r url20:28
cake_guySee for yourself: http://paste.ubuntu.com/906209/20:28
Lando_CI need help organizing a big bunch of files, scattered on many directory levels, with many many duplicates and many versions of the same files.20:28
sparky-mcloy: you can mirror a site with wget but don't recurse too deep.  why not use chrome, for example, and "save as"?  that should save the images and stuff for offline browsing too and it's usually limited to that page20:28
Lando_Csp that I get only the newest version of each file, in a big fat tarball20:29
meerkatsis this a well made live cd into a usb stick? http://imagebin.org/20574920:29
sparky-lando_c: a porn collector, i see!20:29
guntbertcake_guy: did you type   ls -l .ICEauthority    ?    (the -l is important)20:29
Lando_Csparky: close but no20:29
DasEiLando_C: fdupes might be your friend20:29
DasEi!info fdupes20:30
ubottufdupes (source: fdupes): identifies duplicate files within given directories. In component main, is optional. Version 1.50-PR2-3 (oneiric), package size 19 kB, installed size 84 kB20:30
Lando_Csparky: family photos, old music collection and four leves of /home/<user>/oldhome/oldoldhome/stuff/miscjunk/etc20:30
cake_guyguntbert: I didn't capitalize the "i" would that make a difference?20:30
mcloysparky-,  i need to download FULL site20:30
sparky-lando_c: i used to have a system that would distribute/organize files by first letter of the name ... maintaines MD5 hashes of all files to detect duplicates, etc.20:31
DasEiLando_C: to search for particular files locate is fine after a  sudo updatedb20:31
sparky-lando_c: is that something you'd like to do?  maybe i can see if i can dig it up20:31
Lando_CSparky: yes, that sounds like a good way to start20:31
guntbertcake_guy: please pastebin the complete output of   ls -lA        in your home directoy20:31
Lando_CDasEi: thansk, I' will aptget that20:32
sparky-lando_c: ok then you don't want to distribute anything :-)  i can see if i can find some scripts that deal with the md5 hashes and/or the beatification part20:32
Hattorihas anyone experienced any issues with cisco vpn? i'm with 11.04 and i'm trying to conect to my work vpn, but once connected i lose connection to internet.. i had same issue with the old vpn, which i connect to through shrewsoft client, but googling i found out was a security issue, and modifying a file somewhere i got it to work. I didn't bookmark the page and I can't find it anymore, not even sure if it's the same iss20:32
Hattoriue. But everyone else seems ok with the new cisco vpn. any suggestion?20:32
sparky-beautification20:32
sparky-hattori: you want to do split-routing or something?20:32
Hattorias in?20:33
jhutchins_wkDoes Unity have some sort of widget where you can go to a web page or an image and click on a point to get the HTML color code for that point?20:33
sparky-hattori: route work subnets via vpn, everything else via your old internet pipe20:33
Lando_CSparky: no, but i finally have a big enough /home partitin to start reading back and sorting out old /home backups.. haha20:33
guntbertcake_guy: I don't want to rush you but I will not be around much longer - way past bedtime :)20:33
cake_guyOkay.20:33
Hattorisparky-: does it mean specify want i want to route throught the vpn?20:34
cake_guyguntbert: I don't want to keep you from sleep, I am going to do a reinstall of ubuntu soon anyway, so it doesn't matter.20:34
slyraiderguys, help. Ubuntu 11.10 32 bit, need to install libc6-dev-i386. apt-get says "Package libc6-dev-i386 is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source". Hot to fight that?20:34
DasEijhutchins_wk: not sure if I gort you right, you can use tamper data on FF (plugin) to get the code of an opened site20:34
DasEigot*20:34
guntbertcake_guy: did you run  ls -lA on you home dir yet? thats a matter of seconds20:35
sparky-hattori: yes, exactly.  cisco vpn (and the network-manager applet) has the capability to route only specific subnets via the vpn interface.  but you have to configure it20:35
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iljoso, i got another idea20:35
AlexanderchrJordan_U: Got rid of the GPT signatures and it's working. Thanks!20:35
iljoi change the password with20:35
iljoecho "username:pass" | chpasswd20:35
joubintell me the real passwd :D20:36
Hattorisparky-: something like "*.company.com"?20:36
sparky-hattori: no, you have to enter specific subnet numbers :-)20:37
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sparky-hattori: (route -n)20:37
AlexanderchrHow large should the swap partion be?20:38
s0ullighthello, is there anyone who can speak spanish who is willing to check a 300 word text for grammar/spelling mistakes?20:38
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Lando_CdasEi: i would liek to have an opposite, one that says which files are unique, because 90% of the files are in five copies each20:38
cake_guyguntbert: all it's doing is displaying all the files in the current directory?20:38
Xabsters0ullight, post it and i might20:38
CFHowlettAlexanderchr   I think the general formula is 2X your ram20:38
guntbert!ot | s0ullight you have been told before20:38
ubottus0ullight you have been told before: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!20:38
AlexanderchrOk thanks20:38
s0ullightXabster: http://pastebin.com/9jRdUqqb20:38
jeywhy does update-apt-xapian-index need to peg my CPU at 100% usage for minutes and minutes every few days?20:38
jeywhat the hell uses the xapian apt index?20:39
sparky-lando_c: why not at the simplest, "find /top-level-of-the-bunch-of-files -type f -print0 | xargs -0r md5sum | tee md5-hashes.txt" and sit back + have a beer20:39
Laurenceb_hi20:39
Laurenceb_i have issues wiht my network connection20:39
s0ullightXabster: i'm level 1 spanish student, it's a partial summary of a book i had to read20:39
Laurenceb_- wifi20:39
guntbertcake_guy: yes, with details about permissions, I need to know if my suspicion is correct20:39
Laurenceb_it keeps disconnecting20:39
DasEiLando_C: man diff, that command shows line-wise differences20:39
Xabsterlol s0ullight, i read your question as "danish" not "spanish" -- im sorry20:39
Lando_Csparky: hmm you might be on to it.20:39
SmartTowels0ullight, pm me the message20:39
amigamiai was wondering if it is acceptable to rename a directory if i wanted it to be without the uppercase first character to lowercase like Directory to directory ?20:39
Laurenceb_and i have to reboot the machine to reconnect20:39
Laurenceb_can anyone help?20:39
Lando_CDasEi: ok20:39
sparky-lando_c: once you have the exhaustive list of md5 hashes, you can sort it, uniq it, then diff the sorted version from uniq version and you KNOW which ones were not unique (they would have been taken out)20:39
Laurenceb_this is a lenovo thinkpad20:39
sparky-lando_c: did you get that?20:40
amigamiawhat model laurenceb? i worked for lenovo :D20:40
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amigamiawhich thinkpad model20:40
s0ullightXabster, thanks anyway!20:40
Lando_Csparky;: I think I do.. if your fist command will giv all md5 hashes20:40
urbancommandojello everyone20:40
DasEiamigamia: can do it, fastest by mv, safer by creating the new dir , then rsync -R the content over20:40
CFHowletturbancommando   greetings20:40
sparky-lando_c: it will :-)20:40
amigamiaor i worked for ibm supporting lenovo20:40
Lando_Cthe rest is very easy20:40
Lando_Cthanks!20:40
Laurenceb_SL510 amigamia20:41
yokaiclose20:41
amigamiajust a sec laurenceb20:41
urbancommandoanybody know anything about ... pc bread boards or what ever you call them.. (panda board)20:41
sparky-lando_c: minor details like cutting out only the md5 signatures and sort/uniq/diff only those signatures.  then once you find the dupes you can grep for the filename in the original list20:41
sparky-lando_c: it's a multi-step process, but that's what makes scripting fun :-)  and useful20:41
cake_guyguntbert: Taking forever to load..20:41
cake_guyJust a sec..20:41
DasEiurbancommando: try asking in #hardware20:41
amigamialaurenceb is this a new event or is this an ongoing issue?20:41
urbancommandoahh nice ty20:42
Laurenceb_new20:42
guntbertcake_guy: :)20:42
Laurenceb_im one 68% signal strength20:42
Laurenceb_*on20:42
ejvamigamia / DasEi : fyi, rsync -R doesn't mean recursive, but relative.20:42
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cake_guyguntbert: http://paste.ubuntu.com/906231/20:42
DasEiejv: right, rsync -r it is20:43
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DasEiamigamia: can do it, fastest by mv, safer by creating the new dir , then rsync -r the content over20:43
amigamiathanks dasei20:43
ejvfor the most part, -r is usually unnecessary if you specify explicit paths. it will automatically recurse.20:44
amigamiaok laurenceb have you  checked to see if there are any drivers under system administration additional drivers?20:44
guntbertcake_guy: I was right, look at line 120 - that file is owned by root  - now type (carefully):   sudo rm .ICEauthorithy    afterwards you will be able to log in again20:44
Laurenceb_amigamia ok20:44
FernandoCuevadoes it matter what version of lubuntu I use20:44
cake_guyguntbert: Thanks a million!20:44
amigamiait could be a probable update that has modified your config "typical windows issues" btw20:44
CFHowlettFernandoCueva   IMHO, LTS releases are best20:45
sparky-typical WHAT issues?20:45
guntbertcake_guy: you're welcome :-)  and for the future remember !gksudo20:45
Laurenceb_amigamia: no proprietory drivers20:45
amigamiamy suspecision is that there are under cover microsoft programmers in here masquerading as helpers and really are sabatours.20:45
amigamialaurenceb ok20:45
jeywhat uses/queries the Xapian apt index?20:45
amigamiawhat ver are you running laurenceb?20:45
jeydoes aptitude search rely on it?20:45
Laurenceb_10.04lts20:45
cake_guyOkay, thanks guntbert20:45
ssureshotwhats the first order in shutdown K99 or K01 ?20:46
Laurenceb_amigamia: im connecting to a bt homhub that can be remote firmware upgraded by the service provider20:46
decksmashercould some one please tell me the command to start fluxbox, i want to add it to the startup program list..thanks20:46
Laurenceb_*homehub20:46
Laurenceb_it could be its had a firmware upgrade thats fired this off20:46
heyooooI have a Linux server with an existing sshd setup. For my purposes, following a guide that teaches how to perform a certain task, I need to set the AuthorizedKeysFile parameter in sshd_config to something. It is currently commented out. Is there a chance uncommenting it breaks the previous setup?20:46
Lando_Csparky: guess I'll have to learn scripting after all :-/ It's the obvious solution but hard in practice.. what if some names are in the wrong encoding and have spaces and eightbit (or multibyte) chars inthem?20:46
heyooooerr, Ubuntu20:46
Laurenceb_seems that heavy use can cause the network connection to fail20:46
amigamiai am not trying to switch responisbility but you might check to see if there was a firware upgrade becasue it isnt anything with linux updates that would be as a windows update is.20:47
Laurenceb_just irc runs fine20:47
Laurenceb_try to load a lot of webpages it disconnects20:47
sparky-heyoooo: of course.  why would you change it from the default anyway?  and if you did, sure it will break the previously-exchanged keys20:47
amigamiahow many connections at a heavy point laurenceb?20:47
amigamiaoh ok20:47
Laurenceb_just me connecting20:47
amigamiaoh ok20:47
heyoooosparky-: no, by default it's not used at all. No authorized_keys file.20:47
Lando_Cgawd its 406585 files20:47
amigamiahave you rebooted the router?20:47
heyoooosparky-: I want to use it cause this guide says to: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys20:47
Laurenceb_amigamia: yes20:48
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Laurenceb_thats what triggered this issue20:48
amigamiatry this laurenceb do a discharge on the laptop20:48
Lando_Cand I suspect I can delete 4/5 ths of them20:48
Laurenceb_the router sometimes crashes20:48
sparky-heyoooo: you're supposed to populate your own ~/.authorized_keys file ... that what you're talking about?20:48
amigamiai see20:48
Laurenceb_i think its line noise20:48
amigamiado a discharge on the laptop20:48
Laurenceb_as it correlates with landline use20:48
amigamiado you know how to discharge a lenovo / thinkpad?20:48
Laurenceb_what do you mean discharge?20:48
Laurenceb_nope20:49
heyoooosparky-: sshd_config says "#AuthorizedKeysFile     %h/.ssh/authorized_keys"  (i.e., commented out)  . Wouldn't my ~/.authorized_keys be useless?20:49
amigamiapower the system off, disconnect the ac adapter cord, remove the battery. next with nothign powering the laptop press the power button up/down 10 times and then hold it down for 30 seconds.  what you are doing is removing all the static off the motherboard. belive me this is real.20:50
sparky-lando_c: i got in the habit of making md5 of source / dest when i copy massive amount of files and sort/diff them afterwards to be sure nothing went wrong during the copy :-)20:50
FernandoCuevathe lubuntu download page doesn't specify which version is lts20:50
Laurenceb_amigamia: ok thats for that tip20:50
DasEi!lts | FernandoCueva20:50
ubottuFernandoCueva: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Lucid (Lucid Lynx 10.04)20:50
Laurenceb_amigamia: im doing work atm - ill do it next time the network breaks20:50
amigamiaok if you have video issues or the laptop wont start, do this same process to clear the staic electricity20:50
imbezolheyoooo: that's the default location20:50
sparky-heyoooo: of course not.  that means "i want the name of the authorized key file to be such and such".  the fact it's commented out means it's using the default name.  can you just please edit the file already?20:50
heyooooimbezol: so even if the line is commented out, it's still using it?20:51
Laurenceb_amigamia: surely you mean backup ram power?20:51
sparky-heyoooo: cp someones-public-key ~/.ssh/authorized_keys20:51
heyoooosparky-: ok, thanks. I didn't know that.20:51
imbezolheyoooo: ya.. the config file generally has the defaults there.. if you uncomment and specify something different then it will change the config20:51
amigamiaafter you finish laurenceb then you can replace the battery, reconnect the ac adapter and power it on20:51
arkamexhello, some body know, any thing about, making proxy servers, with 2 conexions of Internet Ads ?? (I need some info about)20:51
amigamianope laurenceb i mean the static that is stored in the chips on the systemboard.20:51
amigamiait's an ibm trick we do for ibm thinkpads / lenovo thinkpads and their systems in general.20:52
Laurenceb_sure thats backup ram etc20:52
Laurenceb_its not "static"20:52
amigamiawell that is what they told us and it works is alll i know.20:52
tyroneevening people. I have a strange error. My Ubuntu software center won't start and it seems to have a python traceback where it says there is no module named lazr.restfulserver20:52
FernandoCuevathe lubuntu download page doesn't specify which version is lts20:52
FernandoCueva!lubuntu20:53
ubottulubuntu is Ubuntu with LXDE instead of !GNOME as desktop environment, which makes it extremely lightweight. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu - /join #lubuntu for lubuntu support.20:53
amigamiabut this is just to clear the laptop from being an issue. i suspect it is the router.20:53
sparky-amigamia: hey, do you guys prevent the reading/writing of the bios passwords on the old thinkpads that use the atmel eeprom chip (with RFID capability)?20:53
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Laurenceb_amigamia: yeah20:53
sparky-amigamia: i was reading the datasheet of the atmel part the other day and it clearly said the eeprom can be read/set via RFID (which kind of would make the bios password thing useless)20:53
amigamiabrb boyfreind on telephone brb20:53
Laurenceb_i rebooted router, laptoip woulnt connect20:53
amigamiasend me private msg sparky20:53
amigamiabbiab telephone.20:54
Laurenceb_rebooted laptop, now its slightly dodgey20:54
amigamiagive it a second to fully initialize laurenceb bbiab on the phone.20:54
jcole20erver irc.droidroms.net20:55
decksmasheri want to add fluxbox to the startup program but i dont no the commands, please could some one help thanks20:55
TeamRocket1233cHow terrible is Webmin on Ubuntu? One of the people in the Ubuntu Forums chat uses it all the time on his Ubuntu servers.20:55
jeywhen i have package foo installed, how can I query to find out what other installed packages depend upon foo?20:55
jeyI tried "apt-get remove foo" but it didn't complain about any dependencies no longer being satisfied... so I think there might be a soft-dependency of some sort on foo?20:56
jeyspecifically, foo = apt-xapian-index. i want to remove it because all it ever does is wedge my machine at 100% cpu for a long time20:56
urbancommandoapt-get --purge remove foo20:57
jeythat is not my question20:57
OerHeksjey use the --purge option to remove all data too20:57
jeyoh, wait, maybe. /me looks up purge20:58
urbancommandopurge will remove dep20:58
sparky-jey: "apt-cache rdepends ..."20:58
jeysparky-, thank you.20:58
i7cis there any reason why netstat only shows a port listening on ipv6 when it also clearly listens on ipv4?20:58
tyroneNobody know what might cause this error? I have a strange error. My Ubuntu software center won't start and it seems to have a python traceback where it says there is no module named lazr.restfulserver Any ideas welcome21:00
sparky-i7c: your netstat options?21:00
i7csparky-: mhm for example it shows ssh on ipv4 and ipv6 but znc only on ipv6... but i connect via ipv4 so i know that it listens on ipv4 too.21:01
tyronei7c, I am assuming the port is not on a ppp0 connection?21:01
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i7con eth021:01
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sparky-i7c: netstat -plunt | grep tcp | grep -v tcp6 ?21:02
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i7csparky-: that shows 3 open ports. 22, 8000, 6600. all on tcp.21:03
sparky-i7c: you sure it's tcp and not udp?  :-)  (or even unix?)21:04
i7cthe first column says three times tcp21:04
i7cwhat does that mean now? :D21:05
GritstoneHello21:06
GritstoneWhat is a good client for Twitter on Ubuntu?21:06
CFHowlettGritstone   gwibber21:06
GritstoneCFHowlett thank you.21:07
urbancommandolol killroy21:07
K350howto compile pascal code  with fpc?21:08
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ejvK350: man fpc21:10
HarryGCould someone help me with backtrack 5 r1, or is this ubuntu only?21:12
CFHowlettHarryG   ubuntu only, sorry.21:12
HarryGIs there a backtrack channel?21:12
CFHowlett!backtrack|harryg21:13
ubottuharryg: There are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux), Ultimate Edition21:13
HarryGThanks!21:13
agtmcgarryf21:14
agtmcgarry 21:14
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jhutchins_wkDasEi: Yeah, if it's straightforward code you can just snag it from "View Source", but often it's _not_ straightforward or it's an image.21:18
mcloysparky-,  i need to download FULL site21:21
sparky-mcloy: huh what?  oh, "wget -nc -c -r" ?21:23
sparky-mcloy: i think i used to do "-Nc" (timestamp check)21:23
mcloysparky-,  iam trying to download http://www.artificialstudio.com/  but sometimes theres no style layout  and sometimes the links go online http://blabla      no the local21:24
sparky-mcloy: that's why you have to read the manpage of "wget" and limit connections to specific domains21:25
mcloysparky-,  isnt there a simple command for all that21:26
sparky-mcloy: i also have simple ways to make money too.  interested?21:27
jribmcloy: in addition to wget, check out httrack21:27
mcloysparky-,  what would you use?21:28
GorkymanI need to access ubuntu partitions from windows... any way of doing that ?21:28
Foxandxsshello, any beta 2 user with twinview? Does the new unity bar stuff for dualhead works?21:28
sparky-mcloy: wget serves the purpose and if you need to do this often it helps to understand it (even just once, as you can do the same thing over and over again)21:28
mcloysparky-,  i read it and used      wget -pk url       and wget -rk url        and none worked21:29
nightrid3rGorkyman: http://www.diskinternals.com/linux-reader/21:29
mcloysparky-,  now what should i do21:29
sparky-mcloy: wget -Nc -r --domains=artificialstudio.com http://www.artificialstudio.com/21:30
sparky-mcloy: seriously? :-p21:30
doug_f /join #ubuntu+121:31
meerkatsis this a well made live cd into a usb stick? http://imagebin.org/20574921:31
mcloysparky-,  not working. see for your self21:33
Foxandxssmeerkats: I create bootable usb with unetbootin21:33
meerkatsFoxandxss, so did I, it would help me a lot to say that es, everything looks good to go, or no...21:34
meerkatsyes*21:34
sparky-mcloy: 123 files in 9 subdirectories21:35
Foxandxsswhy don't you try?21:35
Foxandxssis faster21:35
mcloysparky-,  opeb index.html :)21:35
sparky-mcloy: i take it you don't want to set up a fake domain to serve files off of what you just mirrored?21:36
mcloysparky-,  open*   and click a link.       if you see a css effect in index.html in the first place21:36
mcloysparky-,  what do you mean?21:36
sparky-mcloy: i see now you expect a lot of heavy lifting done for you :-)  sorry, i don't know of something that will "just work" for your purpose21:36
ses1984if i have ssh access to a box, how can i turn on vnc access?21:36
mcloysparky-,  open*   and click a link.       if you see a css effect in index.html in the first place21:37
sparky-mcloy: once you mirror something you could easily set up apache to serve documents off of the documentroot you just mirrored21:37
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mcloysparky-,  hmm.. dont do anything. just open a page21:37
ses1984every time i google anything with vnc and ssh in the query, it is talking about ssh tunneling to encrypt vnc traffic21:38
ses1984it seems impossible to find something like, how to enable vnc if all you have is ssh access21:38
sparky-mcloy: wget -Nc -r www.artificialstudio.com/../styles/21:39
sparky-mcloy: put styles one directory above www.artificialstudio.com21:40
sparky-ses1984: you'd ssh into the destination server and run "vncserver"21:41
mcloysparky-,  you see. that is the problem. how do i tackle such problems auto matically21:43
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sparky-mcloy: that's a rather NP-complete problem :-)21:43
mcloymcloy,  npcomplete?21:45
Alexius64ciao belli21:46
CFHowlett!it|Alexius6421:46
ubottuAlexius64: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)21:46
Alexius64tanks21:47
hfirbdgihreubvirserver irc.coldfront.net21:47
* hfirbdgihreubvir sighs21:47
Xgates_UbuntuGot a new laptop, well actually bought it off my kid to help him out and Dell 15R and I run Slackware on this actually and the backlight doesn't work, so I had a Ubuntu 10.04 LTS cd which I'm on running live as I chat and I see that the backlight works, so would anyone know what Ubuntu does to get this to work for various laptops I might be able to do in Slack?21:48
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mcloymcloy,  npcomplete?21:51
`lm`Hey, I've got the following bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/curl/+bug/94043121:53
ubottuLaunchpad bug 940431 in curl (Ubuntu) "Provide 11.10 backport to fix SSL connection lost with git" [Undecided,Confirmed]21:53
`lm`I installed the latest versions of libp11, libgnutls, and libcurl3, but it hasn't fixed it21:54
`lm`let me pastebin version numbers21:54
`lm`http://pastebin.com/D909Lg7321:55
`lm`How do I debug from here?21:55
Sazpaimonis there a way to change the kernel console after the kernel has loaded, or is the only way via the kernel command line?21:56
boumacan i access a list of the programs manually added to the system??21:58
eziosorry for asking this question in here ... but i need to hit a lot of people21:59
boumai installed a whole list of things to compare trees and want to reuse one of these programs21:59
ezioanyone in here good with sport bikes?  i need someone to help me on kijiji to pick out a good bike.22:00
eziosorry everyone22:00
eziothakns22:00
boumahow do i find a program to run, that i might have previously installed22:00
eziobouma, apt-cache22:00
kosaidpohello22:02
kosaidpoany one knows why when i type www.google.com it takes me to localhost ??22:02
kosaidpoany one knows why when i type www.google.com it takes me to localhost ??22:02
nightrid3rkosaidpo: check /etc/hosts22:02
kosaidpoNight did it and  all is normal in that file22:03
mirakhi22:04
mirakhow can i start lvm from busybox ?22:04
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doug_fQuestion: I have a local Repository I am Syncing for Precise and want users to be able to use it when they upgrade from Oneric. How can I get the upgrade to use the local repository?22:06
boumaezio: can apt-cache list programs installed by chronology22:06
boumaezio: or installation order22:06
webnetI work as an IT manager and im trying to lock down the desktops that run ubuntu so the users cant install debs all over or load up games from the software center. anyone know any good apps for this also to restrict what shows up in the menus? Tried Sabayon and custard and both crashed out a few seconds after starting22:07
pangolindoug_f, you would have to set that in /etc/apt/aources.list but exactly how I don't know22:07
pangolinsources.list*22:07
doug_fpangolin, I was sure it would be there but is there something with the upgrade that pulls down new sources.list? Can it be overridden?22:08
nightrid3rkosaidpo: where does plus.google.com take you ?22:08
pangolindoug_f, honestly I don't know how to go about using a local repo22:09
pangolindoug_f, this may be useful https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Offline/Repository22:10
noobhatesgrhi all22:11
pangolindoug_f, the instructions are for karmic (edit where needed for your purpose) but should work22:11
doug_fpangolin, I wonder if it is enough to simply point to the new repo and run update?22:14
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shinobi420greetings #ubuntu22:14
doug_fpangolin, If I recall that is how debian behaves.22:14
shinobi420can someone recommend a hard-drive cloning tool for ubuntu?22:14
shinobi420something like acronis for windows22:15
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doug_fddrescue22:15
pangolindoug_f, you would need to ##comment out the deb lines already in that file, but yes it would be enough to run sudo apt-get update so that apt knows to use the deb file://localrepo22:15
kosaidpoany idea why when i type googe.com it takes me to localhost ??22:15
DasEishinobi420: or just use dd22:15
doug_fshinobi420, use ddrescue if you expect some failures.22:16
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jrib!away > XuMuK|znc22:16
ubottuXuMuK|znc, please see my private message22:16
shinobi420ddrescue eh?22:16
shinobi420thanks for that information22:16
nightrid3rkosaidpo: there could be a problem with your dns servers22:17
kosaidponightrid3r: please remind me in what file i can check that ??22:18
nightrid3rkosaidpo: try to ping plus.google.com and see if that goes to localhost (127.0.0.1) to22:18
dario_hi all22:20
mcloy how to  download a complete webpage including html files, pics, js and css scripts     to that i can brows it offline ?22:21
jribmcloy: same way we told you before.22:22
mcloyjrib,  wget -r is not showing sometimes layout and  the links are always not working22:23
jribmcloy: use wget or httrack.  Read their documentation, as I don't know their options offhand22:23
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mcloyhm22:24
tjiggi_fomcloy, webhttrack is in the repositories22:25
mcloyjrib,  tjiggi_fo  webhttrack is better?22:26
tjiggi_fomcloy, it's for ubuntu22:26
jribmcloy: webhttrack is a web interface for httrack22:26
mcloyjrib,  tjiggi_fo i thought wget was enough. why cant i make it work22:26
kosaidponightrid3r: you still there ??22:27
nightrid3ryup22:27
kosaidpoanyone kno why when i type google.com it takes me to localhost ??22:29
elkcloneomg omg22:29
Chaserkosaidpo, /etc/hosts ?22:29
kosaidpoChaser: it looks normal tho22:30
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noobhatesgraslkdf22:31
Chaserkosaidpo, no proxies configured in your browser ?22:31
kosaidpoChaser: noo22:31
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nightrid3rkosaidpo: do 'cat /etc/resolv.conf' and tell me what the nameserver line says22:31
kosaidponightrid3r:  this # Generated by NetworkManager22:33
kosaidponameserver 192.168.1.25422:33
kosaidpo btw im tetherin from my phone ;]22:33
nightrid3ryou connect trough a wifi router ?22:33
kosaidponightrid3r:  may that be the problem22:34
kosaidponightrid3r: noo im using my phone as a modem thats all22:34
nightrid3rcheck your router if you can set nameserver manualy22:34
nightrid3roh22:34
nightrid3rthe the problem is with your provider22:34
nightrid3rcan you set your own dns servers on the phone ?22:35
boumaah meld is a great program, any one else a fan? or know of something better22:35
kosaidponightrid3r:  well it seems i cant cus network manager will over write it22:35
kosaidpoi mean the file22:36
nightrid3ri mean on the phone22:36
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arlinkserver.sh | myjob.sh | server.sh will this pipe data back and forth between these two scripts if server is running in the background and myjob runs only once?22:36
kosaidponightrid3r: i guess it must be on the apn setting right ??22:37
nightrid3rprobably22:37
nightrid3rmost phones will not allow what we want to do now but maybe you are lucky22:38
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arlinkanybobody know about pipes?22:41
Bodsdaarlink: get mario on top of it, and press the down arrow22:41
mydogsnameisrudyloves the smell of a pipe22:42
pangolinBodsda, not very helpful22:42
pangolinmydogsnameisrudy, you either22:42
mydogsnameisrudysorry22:42
arlinkor redirecting stdout and stdin from the terminal/monitor to a file22:42
pangolinkeep the "funny" comments for #ubuntu-offtopic please22:42
BodsdaI blame the orignal question, but fair point pangolin22:42
mydogsnameisrudyyes sir22:42
arlinkmy question is valid22:43
Bodsdaarlink: For stdout     <command> > file     or   <command> >> file   for append22:43
arlinki was wondering how to send the info back and forth between two scripts if one was running in the background22:44
arlinkwhy didnt you use | instead?22:45
Bodsdaarlink: dbus should be used for programs to cmmunicate22:45
Bodsdaarlink: pipes send the output of one command to the input of another     ls -lah /var/www/ | grep -i somefile    for instance22:45
arlinkbodsda do you know what | is?22:45
arlinkyes thats what i want to do22:46
Bodsdaarlink: ok, is there something you don't understand about the use of a | then?22:46
arlinkbut send the output of the second file to the first when the second is through22:47
Bodsdaarlink: huh? what are you trying to achieve?22:47
arlinkserver.sh | myjob.sh | server.sh makes sense?22:48
lagittajaHTC--I have lubuntu on my laptop. It had 60gb hdd. How in the name off.. Is the installation hogging it completely. I found these files in /var kern.log kern.log.1 sys.log and sys.log.1 and they are taking 51gb space22:49
Bodsdaarlink: well, that will probably work, because the output is only sent to the next command upon completion of the first command, but I would strongly recommend that you rethink what your doing as there is almost certainly a better way. What does server.sh and myjob.sh do?22:49
BodsdalagittajaHTC--: that would suggest that you have some serious problems causing excessive logging.22:49
lagittajaHTC--Interesting22:50
arlinkserver.sh is a server and myjob scrapes information from websites22:50
OerHekslagittajaHTC--, 51 gb space left ?22:50
BodsdalagittajaHTC--: have you tried reading these logs to find out?22:50
Bodsdaarlink: so, what would your server output that you need to input into your web scraper?22:50
arlinkwhen i run the command will it stay valid forever?22:50
lagittajaHTC--No the four log files TAKE 51Gb :D i got 166mb left22:50
Bodsdaarlink: no, only until the last command completes22:51
rhizmoehowdy. i haven't had an optical drive for some time now. i've installed a new one (sata), but it's not showing up. fstab?22:51
arlinkmy server will output the query22:51
lagittajaHTC--And yes I tried opening them but couldn't because of some error cannot read22:51
BodsdalagittajaHTC--: copy them off to an external drive for reviewing and then delete them22:51
arlinki want to keep the command valid forever22:51
splashhi im new at ubuntu and need  some help with video card drivers can some1 help me ?22:52
arlinkserver.sh | myjob.sh | server.sh &22:52
nightrid3r~ask22:52
Bodsdaarlink: I would suggest that you refactor your code and perform the recursive action from one place22:52
Bodsdaarlink: that wont do what you expect22:52
arlinki cant keep the myjob code inside server.sh because it will run forever22:53
splashwell i just installed ubuntu on my Dell Latitude D630 laptop and it seems i have some standart video card driver i have hard time installing my intel  gm965 driver i cant locate xorg.conf file i cant make 1 too22:53
splashsplash@MDFC:/$ Xorg :1 -configure22:54
splashFatal server error: Cannot open log file "/var/log/Xorg.1.log"22:54
splashPlease consult the The X.Org Foundation support at http://wiki.x.org for help.22:54
splashddxSigGiveUp: Closing log """22:54
splashsplash@MDFC:/$ sudo cp /root/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf cp: cannot stat `/root/xorg.conf.new': No such file or directory """" Any ideas help me please...22:54
arlinkand theres no way to keep a pipe running?22:54
FloodBot1splash: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.22:54
Bodsdaarlink: myjob.sh never ends? then how can you pipe the output back into your server. Like I said, refactor your code, your going about this the wrong way22:54
arlinkmyjob should only run once but server.sh makes it run forever22:54
lagittajaHTC--Bodsda I could do that but dont have another computer in my disposal right now nor a external hdd that big. Could the problem be the battery in my laptop? It has poor contact and if I move or bend the frame it will go beep battery hooked up beep battery hooked off. I removed the battery now and I'll try restarting the laptop22:55
Bodsdaarlink: then fix your code22:55
BodsdalagittajaHTC--: potentially. What happens if you try to read the tail? I forget the exact syntax and I'm not on a Linux machine atm     tail -n 10 /var/log/<logfile>    I think - ish22:56
lagittajaHTC--I cant read the log files. I get error cannot read wrong argument if that makes any sense bodsda22:57
BodsdalagittajaHTC--: hmm, thats not an error i've seen before. Can you pastebin the error and the command you use?22:58
dalek_running ubuntu 11.04 , while using Gimp, the mouse pointer frequently locks up for no reason. I can move the pointer around, but none of the mouse button function and I can't click anything either within Gimp or Gnome desktop. This only ever happens while using Gimp. Mouse buttons eventually un-locks if I fight with the keyboard for a minute. What causes this and is there any way to fix it?22:58
usr13dalek_: What hardware?  (cpu, mem etc.)22:59
usr13dalek_: memtest23:00
dalek_usr13, amd athlon64 3500+, 1Gb ram.23:01
lagittajaBodsda I marked the new command with **'s http://pastebin.com/RV6V4Cyn23:04
heaheahttp://youtu.be/jj8DSph5j7023:05
heaheahttp://youtu.be/jj8DSph5j7023:05
heaheahttp://youtu.be/jj8DSph5j7023:05
FloodBot1heahea: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.23:05
Bodsdalagittaja: which file is eating the space?23:09
lagittajaall of them, right now syslog.1 and the kern.log and kern.log.1 are eating the space23:10
lagittajasyslog is only 100kb now23:10
Aethorhi all :) any network guru available for help/advice?23:10
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CFHowlettAethor   might want to also ask in #ubuntu-server  ...23:11
Aethorok, going to try there, thanks :)23:11
Bodsdalagittaja: hmm, can you give me 100 lines from the kern log23:12
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maletorIf I create a cname from https://secure.example.com to website.example2.com does website.example2.com need to have it's own SSL certificate for this to work properly?23:13
lagittajaYes Bodsda, looks like lots of wifi info or something :S http://pastebin.com/Na2xXyfa23:13
Bodsdalagittaja: and the output of this please.    ls -lah /var/log/23:15
lagittajaBodsda http://pastebin.com/JDMFFp6a23:16
yzhdHi guys. I'm trying to install sensors-applet.. but I need a lot of packages to do that.. Currently, I need this one: Requested 'gdk-pixbuf-2.0 >= 2.22.0' but version of GdkPixbuf is 2.20.023:16
yzhdhow can I install it ?23:16
yzhdI can't find the tar.gz to install.. I'm confused :S23:16
Bodsdalagittaja: the biggest file there is syslog.2.gz and is 121MB --- still having disk space issues?23:17
lagittajaDecided to try and -s rm the files. I'll keep an eye on the logs if they decide show up again. I think the darn battery was the problem.23:19
Bodsdalagittaja: yeah - I can't see any problems atm though23:19
lagittajaThanks for your help Bodsda, much appreciated.23:21
Bodsdalagittaja: no problem, gimme a shout if it starts again, and I'll take another look23:22
maletorIf I create a cname from https://secure.example.com to website.example2.com does website.example2.com need to have it's own SSL certificate for this to work properly?23:22
douglaslucasWhen I installed Ocelot off a CD I selected "encrypt home directory"; since this is not full disk encryption, what privacy dangers remain for me? And if I do choose to go with full disk encryption, what program should I use to do so? :)23:23
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l3dsomeone point me too reinstalling grub to save my ubuntu install23:27
wylde!grub | l3d23:27
ubottul3d: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)23:28
CFHowlett!grug2|l3d23:28
CFHowlett!grub2|l3d23:28
jjkingofsouthtest23:28
Bodsdal3d: top 2 links - https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ubuntu+grub2+reinstall+wiki&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-beta23:28
Bodsdajjkingofsouth: pong23:28
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maletorIf I create a cname from https://secure.example.com to website.example2.com does website.example2.com need to have it's own SSL certificate for this to work properly?23:30
CFHowlett!apt-lock>me23:32
ETronikis it possoble to ruen off the messages about people joining and leaving the room?23:32
BodsdaETronik: yeah, what client are you using?23:33
ETronikdefault ubuntu one23:33
BodsdaETronik: xchat?23:33
ETronikempathy23:33
BodsdaETronik: I may have to retract my earlier statement - http://askubuntu.com/questions/30249/in-empathy-irc-how-do-i-turn-off-the-joined-and-disconnected-messages23:34
drecutehi23:34
CFHowlettdrecute   greetings23:34
drecuteI will like to know, what is the common way to virtualize ubuntu23:34
ETronikeheheh23:35
drecuteusing remote desktop23:35
drecutei'm not talking about ssh23:35
Bodsdadrecute: Do you mean run a vm  on ubuntu or run ubntu in a vm on another host OS?23:35
drecutethe later23:35
Bodsdadrecute: virtualbox is a popular solution23:35
Bodsda!virtualbox23:35
ubottuVirtualbox is a virtualizer for x86 and amd64 architectures. It's available in the package "virtualbox" in the !repositories, and you can download the Virtualbox Extension Pack for additional, non-Free functionality at http://virtualbox.org . Additional details can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox23:35
drecuteok23:37
drecutelet me explain a little bit23:37
drecuteI'm using vmware desktop manager23:37
drecuteand I'm connecting to a ubuntu machine23:38
Bodsdadrecute: define 'connecting' - and please see !enter23:39
drecute!enter23:39
ubottuPlease try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!23:39
drecutewhat do you mean really23:40
drecuteanyway, I simply mean allowing access to a ubuntu box through vmware desktop manager23:41
lesshastehow can I set up dual display with the nvidia driver?23:43
lesshasteand which of the many nvidia drivers oneiric offers should I be using?23:43
^MikeCan someone tell me about the categories of packages & what support they receive? Specifically, what packages that are available in the ubuntu repos get supported by canonical, which ones get security updates, etc. I'm sure it is written down somewhere, but I can't find it23:46
ETronikso.. xchat or xchat-gnome? and why?23:46
^MikeETronik: xchat-gnome is not good - use xchat23:47
CFHowlettETronik   chatzilla - easier to manage23:47
blackmatrix_nyIs it possible for a malicious website to embed a javascript that installs and runs as the user on a linux machine without having to gain root privilege ?23:47
* ^Mike suggests compiling from svn HEAD23:47
CFHowlett!packages|mike23:47
ubottumike: You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !KPackageKit, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords or regex>", or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 30000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!23:47
meerkatsim updating: terminal shows /usr/sbin/dkms: line 1872: echo: write error: Broken pipe23:47
trism^Mike: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories23:48
meerkatsis that bad? very bad?23:48
meerkatsapparently it cannot keep updating till i solve it, am I wrong?23:48
mardukbroken pipes can cause leaks, and even flooding23:49
ETronikbrb23:49
^Miketrism: that's the page! thanks! *bookmarked*23:49
nronksrOn a touchpad, what is the command to set the delay for the synaptic touchpad?23:49
nronksrie: so when I type, it disables the touchpad for x number of seconds?23:50
excelsiorhelp help! I'm being repressed! The GUI froze up, and I'm not sure what to do, I have a bunch of projects going all at once, and I'm trying to shut them down a bit at a time, but now it froze up, can't click on anything, so I'm in tty1 using irssi, you're my only chance of recovery!23:52
meerkatsok, its a cascade of broken pipes, same message all over again23:52
meerkatshow do I fix it?23:52
meerkatso wait, it seems it can keel installing23:53
mintmanhow to transfer playlists in clementine to andriod phone??23:54
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lesshastehow can I set up twinview?23:54
lesshastein oneiric23:54
excelsiorhelp help! I'm being repressed! The GUI froze up, and I'm not sure what to do, I have a bunch of projects going all at once, and I'm trying to shut them down a bit at a time, but now it froze up, can't click on anything, so I'm in tty1 using irssi, you're my only chance of recovery!23:55
excelsiorThe GUI froze up, and I'm not sure what to do, I have a bunch of projects going all at once, and I'm trying to shut them down a bit at a time, but now it froze up, can't click on anything, so I'm in tty1 using irssi, you're my only chance of recovery!23:56
excelsiorI'm going to try top and kill to see if I can make any headway...23:58
JelloPopexcelsior: ctrl + alt + f8 = new session xstart --:1  this should laod new session23:58
JelloPopexcelsior: xstart --:1   :)23:59
newblikegrDoes anyone know how to change the Font color of active windows on Gnome/Xfce panel?23:59
Etronikrebe, so how do I stop the join/leave messages in Xchat ?23:59
newblikegrI can't seem to change it from default black23:59

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