[00:01] <qubit[0|1]> does my /etc/hosts file except another DNS entry ?  for example I want to say , database-server my-amazon-ec2-public-dns.com
[00:04] <AcidRain> my 80gig disk is saying it has 0bytes left
[00:04] <AcidRain> i think ive been hacked. it was just yesturday i had like 60gig free
[00:04] <AcidRain> and i just cleared about 10gig
[00:04] <AcidRain> and its back to 0
[00:05] <AcidRain> anyone know how to fix this issue?
[00:05] <b1g1r0n_> AcidRain: what's it filling up with?
[00:06] <AcidRain> b1g1r0n_: i dont know. there are no clear activities taking place
[00:07] <b1g1r0n_> AcidRain: if you look at top/htop are there any particularly active processes?
[00:07] <AcidRain> define top/htop?
[00:07] <b1g1r0n_> AcidRain: and look at lsof
[00:08] <b1g1r0n_> AcidRain: !top
[00:08] <b1g1r0n_> AcidRain: google 'linux top'
[00:09] <AcidRain> wow
[00:09] <AcidRain> nothing works
[00:09] <AcidRain> nothing will open
[00:09] <AcidRain> perhaps i shoudl restart?
[00:09] <AcidRain> even irc is moving slow
[00:09] <b1g1r0n_> AcidRain: I'd imagine if the disk is full, it's going to have a tough time
[00:10] <b1g1r0n_> AcidRain: I'd take a close look at the output of `lsof` and see what files are in use
[00:10] <AcidRain> b1g1r0n_: but how is it full? i have litterally 30megs of info on this disk. rest is the linux files
[00:10] <b1g1r0n_> AcidRain: you've got to look at what's on the filesystem
[00:10] <AcidRain> b1g1r0n_: but how can i see what files have been recently added?
[00:11] <AcidRain> i thought it was very difficult to hack ubuntu
[00:11] <b1g1r0n_> AcidRain: lsof will show you what's open
[00:11] <b1g1r0n_> AcidRain: I doubt you're "hacked"
[00:11] <b1g1r0n_> AcidRain: probably just a runaway process or something. What's the machine used for? laptop/desktop/server?
[00:11] <AcidRain> man i just dont understand what the cause could be
[00:11] <AcidRain> server
[00:12] <b1g1r0n_> AcidRain: is it connected to the internet? what services do you run on it?
[00:12] <AcidRain> yeah. im going to restart. the disk analysis says i have 3gig free of 70gig
[00:12] <b1g1r0n_> AcidRain: ok, but you may lose sight of what's causing the problem if you kill everything off
[00:12] <AcidRain> i run mysql, icecast, mumble, a perl irc bot (very simple), and ftp server
[00:13] <AcidRain> but the ftp server is only shared on a 1TB drive
[00:13] <b1g1r0n_> AcidRain: ssh or anything for remote access?
[00:13] <AcidRain> b1g1r0n_: well thats whats weird about it. i havent made changes to any servers in months
[00:13] <AcidRain> no ssh
[00:13] <ejv> if you were hacked, one of the first things i'd replace is your top binary lol
[00:13] <kinanizer> how do i extract stuff into my "opt" folder
[00:14] <ejv> if you're actually suspicious of the integrity of your system, a rebuild wouldn't hurt
[00:14] <chelogui> chelogui
[00:16] <b1g1r0n_> ejv: seems like a lot of work without figuring what's going on. And if you rebuild back to the last state, it'll just get popped again
[00:18] <ejv> the price you pay for trusting your system i suppose, i keep a livecd handy for these types of situations
[00:22] <darrenlooby> Hello. I did mv file /secure - but, the file has gone - did I delete it by accident? Turns out that /secure wasn't there
[00:23] <netbird> alguem do Brasil ?
[00:23] <GridCube> !br
[00:28] <funnyhaha> how do i find out how much ram i have in use
[00:28] <pangolin> free
[00:28] <bastidrazor> funnyhaha: free 0m
[00:28] <bastidrazor> free -m rather
[00:28] <SaRSAeOL> funnyhaha: or top
[00:30] <funnyhaha> no my comp has 4 gigs but i saw something that said it had 2.9 i want to know there is something wrong i have 10.4
[00:31] <funnyhaha> i dont know what top or Om is
[00:31] <escott> funnyhaha, "free" is the standard utility. are you running 32bit?
[00:31] <Dulak> funnyhaha: you need the pae kernel,  on 32 bit linux by default it will only see about 3g of ram without a pae kernel
[00:31] <funnyhaha> 32 bit yeah
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> funnyhaha: install the PAE kernel
[00:32] <funnyhaha> how what is a PAE
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> funnyhaha: its a hack to give 32bit OS access up to 64Gb RAM
[00:32] <funnyhaha> do i have to reinstall everything
[00:32] <escott> funnyhaha, physical address extensions. your video card is covering your ram
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> funnyhaha: no, its just an extra package to install. Personally I'd justreinstall with 64bit OS, but you can install the pae kernel and see all the RAM
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> funnyhaha: sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic-pae
[00:34] <funnyhaha> thanks
[00:35] <funnyhaha> when i was downloading it said to use 32bit and then some people said that there is not alot of programs for the 64 bit is this true
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> funnyhaha: no, there are all the same apps for 64bit as for 32bit in the official repos
[00:35] <Ben64> everything works on 64 bit now
[00:35] <Ben64> and 64bit is better
[00:36] <Toph2> Ben64,,, is the only advantage of 64 bit over 32 bit, that you can address more memory?
[00:36] <Ben64> no
[00:36] <funnyhaha> o i have to wipe all the files to do that dont i
[00:36] <Toph2> what else Ben64
[00:36] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: it gets messy running 32bit stuff in 64bit OS, it can be easier to run 32bit OS
[00:37] <Ben64> funnyhaha: you can keep your home directory, especially if you have a separate home partition
[00:37] <escott> Toph2, more registers and sse3 or is it sse4
[00:37] <Ben64> ActionParsnip: that hasn't been true for years
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: it can get messy, try installing a 32bit deb and then get the deps with: sudo apt-get -f install     see what it installs
[00:37] <zykotick9> Ben64: when you get zsnes running on 64bit let me know ;)
[00:38] <Toph2> escott,,, sorry,, that is beyond me,, the sse* part
[00:38] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: tried playdeb?
[00:38] <Guest__> I'm new to IRC. Is there a way to ignore/hide the joining and leaving messages?
[00:38] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: it won't work - it's an issue with zsnes (thus why i used as example)
[00:38] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: I see
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> Guest__: which client?
[00:39] <escott> Toph2, special instructions to make media encoding/decoding faster
[00:39] <multiHYP> hi all
[00:39] <Guest__> I am in webchat.freenode.net
[00:39] <Toph2> escott,,, i see
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: zsnes site hasn't been updated sice 2007 either ;)
[00:40] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: i doubt zsnes code has been either ;)
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> Guest__: isn't there an option button at the top of the page?
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: bingo :D
[00:41] <escott> Toph2, the future is 64bit and most developers are running 64bit. so unless you have a good reason to run 32bit i say run 64bit
[00:41] <Ben64> zykotick9: done
[00:41] <Ben64> took.... 3 mins
[00:41] <Toph2> escott,,, yes, i have no issues with it,, was just curious
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> escott: I like that
[00:42] <Ben64> zykotick9: http://www.ben64.com/random_junk/zsnes.png
[00:42] <Guest__> ActionParsnip: There is "options" but I don't see any option to change that option.
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> Guest__: i'd ask in #freenode  you could also install a client to your OS.
[00:43] <blackthorne> Trying to install VMware Server on Ubuntu Server 11.10 but without success, I seem to have a too recent kernel
[00:43] <funnyhaha> ok i installed the PEA thing how do i see my RAM
[00:43] <blackthorne> how can I downgrade my kernel version?
[00:43] <escott> funnyhaha, reboot and choose the pae kernel
[00:43] <Guest__> ActionParsnip: I looked again and found the options. Thanks for reminding me about the options at the top ;) I am new, still learning :)
[00:43] <Mister_X> hello guys
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> Ben64and did you have to install a tonne of packages ending in ':i386' ?
[00:44] <Ben64> nope
[00:44] <sneekypanda312> Hello :)
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> Guest__: its all good, learning is good :)
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: what steps did you take please/
[00:44] <sneekypanda312> Everyone starts somewhere.
[00:45] <Ben64> ActionParsnip: i must have compiled it at some point, idk
[00:45] <Ben64> thought it was from apt, but its not in my repositories
[00:46] <Mister_X> any developper in the room?
[00:46] <Mister_X> I got a compilation error and I can't figure out why it fails (compiles fine on Debian and OSX)
[00:46] <velko> !anyone | Mister_X
[00:47] <Mister_X> ubottu, I asked the question
[00:47] <qubit[0|1]> zing
[00:47] <Mister_X> velko, I asked it
[00:47] <qubit[0|1]> whats up Mister_X ?
[00:47] <velko> Mister_X, no you haven't
 I got a compilation error and I can't figure out why it fails (compiles fine on Debian and OSX)
[00:47] <qubit[0|1]> I h ave a *
[00:47] <Mister_X> I didn't had the time yet to give you the pastebin url
[00:47] <qubit[0|1]> err, have
[00:47] <velko> Mister_X, care to tell us which error?
[00:48] <funnyhaha> ok got the PEA running
[00:49] <funnyhaha> now how do i check my RAM
[00:49] <qubit[0|1]> free ?
[00:49] <funnyhaha> all
[00:49] <qubit[0|1]> the command
[00:49] <arsenal> hello
[00:49] <Ben64> free is the command
[00:49] <Mister_X> http://pastebin.com/Fm6AFN8B
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: http://paste.ubuntu.com/904807/   that's how messy it gets
[00:49] <arsenal> can anybody help me with drupal 7?
[00:49] <funnyhaha> o thanks
[00:49] <Mister_X> gcc cannot find references to functions
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> funnyhaha: check in what way?
[00:50] <Mister_X> even though the library is given to gcc
[00:50] <funnyhaha> o thanks
[00:50] <Ben64> iU  zsnes                                      1.510-2.2ubuntu4                                           Emulator of the Super Nintendo Entertainment System
[00:50] <funnyhaha> thats great
[00:50] <trism> Mister_X: the -llibrary arguments must come after the code files that reference them
[00:50] <Ben64> don't know where i got my package from...
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: where from?
[00:51] <Ben64> i just said i don't know
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: oic, i got that from the ubuntu packages site: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/i386/zsnes/download
[00:51] <Mister_X> trism, that's weird that it works fine on Debian, OpenSuse and OSX
[00:51] <Mister_X> I'll try it
[00:51] <sysc> Anyone know if it's possible to limit the number of connections(tcp) from an ip address if the source ip address only shows up in the http header x-forward-for? Prefer to use iptables or not having to install extra packages?
[00:52] <Ben64> ActionParsnip: looks like mine is from Maverick https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/i386/zsnes/1.510-2.2ubuntu4
[00:52] <trism> Mister_X: likely won't work fine in debian if you upgrade to wheezy, http://wiki.debian.org/ToolChain/DSOLinking
[00:53] <Mister_X> I'm using stable
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: still 32bit only so will do the same as my paste
[00:53] <Ben64> but i didn't have to do all that to get it running
[00:53] <Ben64> just ia32-libs
[00:54] <Mister_X> did gcc change anything related to that lately? I've been using that syntax (using a variable to hold all -l) for ages
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> !info ia32-libs
[00:54] <Ben64> :o
[00:54] <Cskiboy> Ubuntu has become too bloated with Unity.  Anyone else here feel the same way?
[00:54] <Ben64> when/why did they get rid of ia32-libs
[00:54] <EvilResistance> Cskiboy:  i dont use Unity xD
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> !info ia32-libs-multiarch
[00:55] <bastidrazor> Cskiboy: you're alone in your thoughts. Unity is the future
[00:55] <Ben64> there are a lot of people who do not like unity
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: there is that but Oneiric is multiarch, so you can install both debs.
[00:55] <Cskiboy> bastidrazor: You're trolling, right?
[00:55] <JJC> Can someone help me out with the make xconfig command?
[00:55] <zruty> Laptop with wired network loads network modules but does not show up with ifconfig. What can I check?
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> bastidrazor: only in one f the 4 officially supported flavours
[00:57] <funnyhaha> hey what was that command for the PAE thing again
[00:57] <bastidrazor> Cskiboy: Unity is the way forward. Ubuntu agrees. other flavors are not ubuntu.
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> (01:33:58) ActionParsnip: funnyhaha: sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic-pae
[00:58] <funnyhaha> thanks
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> Cskiboy: the other variants are equally supported here, feel free to install Kubuntu or Xubuntu or Lubuntu if you don't like Unity
[00:58] <trism> Mister_X: it is a change to how strict the linker is in ubuntu since oneiric, see the debian wiki link
[00:59] <Cskiboy> I just use bare Debian
[00:59] <bastidrazor> Cskiboy: agreed. Unity isn't for everyone. the other flavors may be to your liking but for Ubuntu its the way forward.
[01:00] <EvilResistance> ActionParsnip:  is there a way for me to make a custom LiveCD image that installs gnome-shell by default along with Unity?
[01:00] <qubit[0|1]> ugh, unitys first go around sucked
[01:00] <trism> Mister_X: also the -llibrary section of the gcc manpage
[01:00] <JJC> Can someone help me with building drivers for my TV card? My card is supported, but when I try to build the driver, it stops due to an error.
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> EvilResistance: sure, you can remaster the ISO and make itas you desire
[01:00] <Cskiboy> bastidrazor: It works well with tablets, I'll give you that.
[01:00] <qubit[0|1]> JJC, paste  the error ?
[01:00] <EvilResistance> ActionParsnip:  is there a way to exclude Unity, as well?  Or is unity a dependency of GNOME3 :P
[01:00] <Myrth> i need to load SSD module on grub2 boot. I put ocz10xx.ko into /boot/grub folder and added insmod ocz10xx.ko to /boot/grub/grub.cfg but that doesn't work. what am I suppose to do?
[01:00] <Ben64> why does everyone want to ruin pc experience in favor of tablets
[01:01] <Ben64> windows 8, unity
[01:01] <Mister_X> I fixed the issues by moving all the libs after the C files, thx trism
[01:01] <ActionParsnip> EvilResistance: you can remove the unity packages, I pulled unity2D and Unity off today after adding a PPA that screwed my OS
[01:01] <JJC> qubit[0|1] I'll pastebin is, one second.
[01:01] <Mister_X> and it will probably fix my issues on cygwin too
[01:01] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: you don't have to use Unity
[01:01] <Ben64> they make it hard not to
[01:01] <Cskiboy> Ben64: I don't.
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> ben64: Win8 also has te conventional desktop option
[01:02] <thrilway> Does anyone no how to set up port forwarding with ufw?
[01:02] <thrilway> *know
[01:02] <Ben64> ActionParsnip: which they're getting rid of in favor of metro
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: grab Kubuntu ISO, burn it and install, no different to installing Ubuntu..
[01:02] <qubit[0|1]> Cskiboy++
[01:02] <Ben64> i don't like kde
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: try LXDE then, or just use open/fluxbox + tint
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> ben64: tonnes of options, all not including unity
[01:03] <Cskiboy> Ben64: I think that tablets are good on the go, but for true power, a kebord and mouse should be used.  A tablet is simply a suppliment to a PC, not a replacement.
[01:03] <Ben64> don't like lxde, or xfce, or any of the others
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> ben64: enlightentment?
[01:04] <Ben64> i like gnome without composite or anything fancy
[01:04] <qubit[0|1]> compiz ?
[01:04] <JJC> qubit[0|1] pastebin.com/zgqN7LRE
[01:04] <Ben64> compiz is an example yes
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: etoile?
[01:05] <JJC> qubit[0|1] That's where it stops.
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> ben64: mezzo?
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> ben64: rox?
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> ben64: tried those?
[01:06] <Ben64> no, but if it doesn't use gnome-panel i won't like it
[01:06] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: just install it and configure the OS to use it
[01:06] <ActionParsnip> ben64: you can use gnome-panel in xfce if you want
[01:06] <qubit[0|1]> JJC, yeah not much there, you'll probably have to search if kmap_atomic has changed recently , is what you're building for 2.6 or 3.0 ?
[01:06] <qubit[0|1]> JJC, what are you building ?
[01:06] <escott> ActionParsnip, is there even a gnome-panel package anymore?
[01:07] <Ben64> i installed 12.04 on my laptop, got rid of unity, and the desktop is all strange and non-configurable
[01:07] <funnyhaha_> i got this at the log in screen right after i loged in but befor it opend "Could not update ICEauthority file /home/a/.ICEauthority" what do i do
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> !info gnome-panel precise
[01:07] <mydogsnameisrudy> cinnamon is not to bad i think
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> escott: seems so
[01:07] <Ben64> can't modify themes without the look breaking
[01:07] <JJC> qubit[0|1] I'm building the driver for my TV card.
[01:07] <qubit[0|1]> oh right :)
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: I'm not a themer, furthest I go is wallpaper so can't comment there
[01:08] <JJC> qubit[0|1] Sorry, I'm very new to Linux, what do you mean for 2.6 or 3.0?
[01:08] <dell> #ubuntu+1 is the channel for the new release........
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> dell: yes
[01:09] <Ben64> what i like about linux is being able to configure everything to how you like, and 12.04 doesn't want to let me
[01:09] <escott> ActionParsnip, i don't think thats what Ben64 wants. thats linked to gtk3. i thought the old gtk2 panel was never ported to 3 because the underlying bus was removed
[01:09] <qubit[0|1]> JJC,  if I had to guess , you're building a program that was built for the kernel 2.6 on the 3.0 kernel, kmap that deals with kernel virtual memory
[01:09] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: perfectly themable in LXDE here  in 12.04
[01:09] <qubit[0|1]> JJC, what version of ubuntu are you using ?
[01:09] <qubit[0|1]> JJC, also where did you get this code ?
[01:09] <JJC> qubit[0|1] 10.04
[01:09] <Ben64> ActionParsnip: yeah, but then i lose my fancy gnome-panel widgets
[01:10] <JJC> qubit[0|1] The command I'm using?
[01:10] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: then kill off lxpanel and run gnome-panel
[01:10] <qubit[0|1]> what are you building ?
[01:10] <funnyhaha_> so nobody knows what im talking about? Could not update ICEauthority file /home/a/.ICEauthority
[01:11] <JJC> qubit[0|1] Here is the guide I'm following. http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/How_to_Obtain,_Build_and_Install_V4L-DVB_Device_Drivers
[01:11] <eboy> can someone help me get gnome-terminal to make the alert sound when the bell character is written?
[01:11] <escott> !gksudo | funnyhaha_ you probably forgot to do this and changed the ownership of the file
[01:11] <eboy> i dont' hear a thing
[01:12] <ActionParsnip> funnyhaha_: boot to root recovery mode and run:  chown a:a /home/a/.ICEauthority
[01:12] <escott> funnyhaha_, so ls -l ~/.ICEauthority and if it says "root" anywhere you need to sudo chown a:a ~/.ICEauthority
[01:12] <ActionParsnip> funnyhaha_: this is caused by running GUI apps with sudo, instead of gksudo
[01:13] <funnyhaha_> can i talk to you from recovery mode
[01:13] <billy_ran_away> Anyone know how to change the password to a local user when ldapscripts is installed?
[01:13] <qubit[0|1]> JJC, found this, http://lwn.net/Articles/356378/ , but it looks like a serious pain in the ass - somewhere along the line the function kmap() changed
[01:13] <funnyhaha_> i olny have wifi
[01:14] <delinquentme> I'm looking for ways to simply run backups on a single text file
[01:14] <sh_t> hi everyone. im looking into options for using SSD's on top of a RAID10 array of SAS drives to improve random read performance (I have a read only workload). I've looked into linux-bcache and ZFS on ubuntu, but bcache is not production ready and technically neither is ZFS (I actually tested it). I'm now looking at creating plain old swap devices on my SSD's.. does anyone have any suggestions?
[01:15] <ActionParsnip> funnyhaha_: just write the command down, replace 'a' with your username
[01:15] <funnyhaha_> i dont understand the replace a
[01:15] <escott> funnyhaha_, followed by "enter" and "reboot"
[01:16] <eboy> how do i get gnome-terminal to make the ubuntu alert sound?
[01:16] <escott> funnyhaha_, is your username actually "a"
[01:16] <funnyhaha_> i think my user name is a
[01:16] <funnyhaha_> yeah
[01:16] <JJC> qubit[0|1]: I wouldn't have a clue how to do any of those steps...
[01:16] <escott> sh_t, mdadm?
[01:17] <ActionParsnip> funnyhaha_: whoami       will output your username
[01:17] <ActionParsnip> funnyhaha_: or:  echo $USER       both are fine
[01:17] <funnyhaha_> i am a
[01:18] <ActionParsnip> funnyhaha_: e.g.    chown user:user /home/user/.Xauthority
[01:18] <funnyhaha_> i put it on a note i am going to try it
[01:18] <funnyhaha_> thanks
[01:19] <funnyhaha_> will notes run in recovery
[01:20] <sh_t> escott: mdadm does not do ssd caching as far as i know
[01:21] <escott> sh_t, not sure what you mean by that. you want to write to have ssd and rotational media in the same device in some way?
[01:22] <sh_t> escott: ssd caching is a popular way of accelerating the performance of magnetic storage. ZFS does it wonderfully under Solaris, but I can't switch distros for this project
[01:22] <escott> sh_t, you might check if that is in btrfs. alternately you could try hacking something in with overlay filesystems and some privileged process slowly feeding the overlay out to the disk
[01:23] <sh_t> its not :(
[01:23] <escott> sh_t, in fact that might be the simplest approach. run your app inside a chroot and then copy it out to your rotational media in some way (unless it doesn't fit in your ssd)
[01:24] <sh_t> it's a file server escott. the ssd's are in no way going to fit the data
[01:24] <sh_t> its just meant to take some of the random read off of the larger array
[01:24] <min|dvir|us> How do I delete all Unity and Compiz configuration?
[01:25] <sh_t> so thats why I was thinking of just using the SSD's as swap, then setting cranking up the swappiness so it fills them
[01:25] <notk0> hello, how can I move a window to another virtual screen
[01:26] <notk0> the control alt left/right screens
[01:26] <Brewster> hello
[01:26] <Brewster> I am having difficulties getting floppies to work in ubuntu
[01:26] <escott> sh_t, the only "problem" with that (and I dont see it as a problem but a feature) is that the kernel will not depend on the ssd to ensure that the files are synced. so if someone calls sync it *must* wait for it to hit the rotational media
[01:26] <Brewster> any Ideas?
[01:27] <notk0> Brewster, TROLOLOLOS
[01:27] <notk0> Brewster, more details or GTFO
[01:27] <Brewster> yes I know I said floppy
[01:27] <funnyhaha> i did not know i was going to get a menu in recovery mode i was thinking it would be like windows what do i pick at this menu
[01:27] <notk0> Brewster, do you have a floppy drive?
[01:27] <Brewster> but I really need one to recover a disk
[01:27] <Brewster> yeah
[01:27] <escott> funnyhaha, you just want the root command line
[01:27] <notk0> Brewster, I think you may have a bad floppy drive, all my floppies work flawlessly under Ubuntu
[01:28] <sh_t> escott: would what you just said apply to read only workloads?
[01:28] <Brewster> no the floppy is good but it is not mounting
[01:28] <funnyhaha> you mean not in recovery
[01:28] <notk0> what?
[01:28] <myersg> Im having a problem
[01:28] <funnyhaha> or the one that shell something root
[01:28] <notk0> Brewster, you have to open a terminal under root and type rm -rf /
[01:28] <Brewster> i put the floppy in like I would any other disk and click on the floppy area in the file browser
[01:29] <Brewster> notk0: ha ha very funny
[01:29] <Brewster> really people this is serious
[01:29] <bazhang> notk0, dont do that again
[01:29] <Brewster> I'd rather not throw out a 750 gb hard drive
[01:29] <notk0> bazhang, I am sorry, my cat stepped on my keyboard
[01:29] <escott> sh_t, im not sure. it depends on how the kernel treats the ssd. why was it you couldnt use bcache
[01:30] <bazhang> notk0, enough nonsense
[01:30] <Brewster> so please does anyone know how i can fix this?
[01:30] <myersg> no
[01:30] <funnyhaha> trash can
[01:30] <Sprocks> hi
[01:30] <myersg> what is this?
[01:31] <sh_t> escott: frankly I can't be bothered to recompile the kernel. theres no instructions for anything and I'm not well versed in doing that. the maintainer provides a full kernel to download and compile, i dont really know how to merge it with the existing ubuntu kernel while maintaining the stock ubuntu settings
[01:31] <notk0> myersg, I am 12 and what is this
[01:31] <FernandoCueva> what ubuntu should I use for a pentium 3 700mhz 512MB
[01:31] <myersg> 10.04.4
[01:31] <sh_t> but other than that, it appears to be exactly what i need :p
[01:31] <Sprocks> does anyone know if it is possible to install ubuntu from a proxy, like not have the CD image?
[01:31] <myersg> at best
[01:31] <myersg> maby you should try puppy linux
[01:31] <Brewster> FernandoCueva: I had a 800mhz copmuter and ubuntu 10 worked fine on it
[01:32] <myersg> no don't think it can be done
[01:32] <myersg> with the install proy thing
[01:32] <Brewster> myersg ubuntu 10.10 works
[01:32] <FernandoCueva> I just uninstalled ubuntu 10.04 off my 700mhz cuz it was slow the browser webpage loading time it sucked
[01:32] <ActionParsnip> Sprocks: you could make a PXE server :)
[01:32] <ActionParsnip> FernandoCueva: try Lubuntu
[01:33] <escott> sh_t, well thats easy. they give you the config file in your /boot all you have to do is patch the kernel, makeoldconfig and enable bcache and then start building. i suspect that just turning up swappiness will not do what you want. the kernel would not understand that it can swap to /dev/sda (ssd) faster than it can read from /dev/sdb (rotational) and will probably purge from the recently read files rather than write to swap
[01:33] <myersg> ok, I has a good desktop with penium 4 and 10.10 was realy slow, and that was with 900 or so mb ram
[01:33] <myersg> I would use puppy for a computer like that
[01:33] <Sprocks> ActionParsnip would that let me install ubuntu without a CD being burnt?
[01:34] <sh_t> escott: could you assist me in "merging" his kernel with the ubuntu source? I apt-get installed linux-source already and I have the tree on my disk. I also have his kernel fetched in another directory.
[01:34] <escott> sh_t, unless there is some way you could make your file serving application (like samba) maintain its own cache and dictate the device it should use
[01:34] <myersg> http://puppylinux.org/main/Overview%20and%20Getting%20Started.htm
[01:34] <staticsafe> hey guys, I just instelled Ubuntu 12.04 on my Macbook Pro (5,5), I'm having issues with controlling the brightness and the keyboard backlight setting. Any help is appreciated.
[01:34] <Fyodorovna> !precise | staticsafe
[01:34] <bazhang> myersg, please, lets use ubuntu solutions first
[01:34] <escott> sh_t, you don't want to merge his kernel. get his patch instead. he should publish a patch or a git tree from which you can make a patch
[01:34] <ActionParsnip> Sprocks: sure, assuming the BIOS can PXE boot, you will need another system to run the PXE service on
[01:34] <myersg> go to dash type in screen
[01:35] <staticsafe> thanks Fyodorovna
[01:35] <sh_t> escott: there is -- however I wouldnt expect it to perform nearly as well. im using Nginx to serve files.. see http://labs.frickle.com/nginx_ngx_slowfs_cache/README
[01:35] <Brewster> alright thanks for your time guys
[01:35] <sh_t> escott: he says that the patch is behind, also I have no idea where it is. He said in a mailing list reply that he needs to update the site not to use it anymore
[01:35] <Sprocks> ActionParsnip could the other system be a virtual machine, do you have any links that may help?
[01:35] <myersg> @bazhang will I don't think ubuntu will work good on somthing like that, and yes ubuntu is a good os, but when hardware cant run it, theres no point
[01:35] <bazhang> myersg, lubuntu for one is an option
[01:36] <escott> sh_t, why wouldn't you expect the nginx option to work well. sounds perfect for your use case
[01:36] <myersg> ohhh, I forgot about that sorry
[01:36] <myersg> I used that on mine, puppy ran better though,
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> Sprocks: not on the same system, no
[01:36] <Fyodorovna> myersg, you can tab complete nics the @ is not used here.
[01:36] <sh_t> escott: one concern is that that module caches entire files, not blocks
[01:36] <zruty> lshw shows my NIC as disabled. How can I enable it?
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> myersg: could use slitaz too or tinycore
[01:37] <escott> sh_t, or just b/c its another module. also there is a facebook project flashcache that does something similar to bcache
[01:37] <ActionParsnip> zruty: sudo rfkill unblock all
[01:37] <Sprocks> ActionParsnip i was thinking virtual machine on the same network not system
[01:37] <escott> sh_t, and your readers regularly do sporadic reads?
[01:37] <myersg> Whats new in ubuntu 12.04, and should I upgrade to the beta, is it stable yet?
[01:37] <ActionParsnip> Sprocks: thats fine, as long as it is visible on the LAN
[01:38] <Fyodorovna> myersg, #ubuntu+1 is the 12.04 channel.
[01:38] <sh_t> escott: basically it's a file server with 24x900GB SAS in RAID10, and I have 2x256G SSD's. it's an all out rape-show during peak hours, so we believe sticking SSD's in there will alleviate it enough for our workload
[01:38] <myersg> ok thanks
[01:38] <AcidRain> so is my harddrive corrupt if it is saying ive used 70gig of diskspace.
[01:38] <escott> sh_t, fun hardware
[01:38] <sh_t> escott: and yeah I saw flashcache. looks easier to integrate I just read that the performance is nowhere near what bcache is
[01:39] <AcidRain> when disk analysis says ive used 70 as well. but none of the acidrain home folder subdirectories contains more than 100megs?
[01:39] <escott> sh_t, does bcache have a git tree?
[01:39] <sh_t> escott yes
[01:40] <zruty> ActionParsnip: Trying that...
[01:40] <AcidRain> whats wrong with my box?
[01:40] <AcidRain> its moving so slow
[01:40] <AcidRain> can someone tell me if the disk is corrupt?
[01:40] <zruty> ActionParsnip: But it is my wired NIC that si disabled
[01:41] <alexm> my computer is 1.333 GHz, is this to slow?
[01:41] <escott> sh_t, so pull their git tree and you could try merging it with the kernel from kernel.ubuntu.com. im not sure if its the same kernel as you get when you install from apt, but i'll guess that it might be https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/GitKernelBuild
[01:41] <CFHowlett> alexm compared to what?
[01:41] <myersg> where can I find the ubuntu 12.04 beta 2 release notes?
[01:42] <sh_t> escott: so I already have the bcache tree cloned, how can I merge that with that one?
[01:42] <escott> AcidRain, what disk analysis tool is this? baobob?
[01:42] <CFHowlett> myersg   #ubuntu+1
[01:42] <myersg> no one is replying
[01:42] <escott> sh_t, i've never actually done a kernel merge. presumably "git pull git://kernel.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-###RELEASE#HERE###.git"
[01:43] <sh_t> inside of the directory where the linux-bcache kernel is?
[01:43] <myersg> CFHowlett: no one there is replying
[01:43] <ActionParsnip> zruty: is there a switch or shortcut key to enable / disable the interface
[01:43] <escott> sh_t, and then look at git branch -a and see if there is a branch that looks promising
[01:43] <zruty> ActionParsnip: The wired NIC?
[01:43] <cincinnatus> Why does everyone hate Unity so much?
[01:43] <Morzan007> because it's ugly
[01:43] <escott> sh_t, git checkout #ubuntu#branch# and then git merge #bcache#branch#
[01:43] <ActionParsnip> zruty: sure
[01:44] <FernandoCueva> myersg, you think 512mb of ram and loading from usb1 will be enough for puppy linux to run fast
[01:44] <usr13> cincinnatus: They don't, really...
[01:44] <myersg> Well I don't, but it does take a little longer to get things done
[01:44] <CFHowlett> myersg   see https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+milestone/ubuntu-12.04-beta-2
[01:44] <myersg> yes
[01:44] <Morzan007> Gnome-Classic all the way
[01:44] <usr13> cincinnatus: Some do, and the some that do are outspoken.
[01:44] <myersg> It can run on as little as 64 mb ram
[01:44] <FernandoCueva> I'll give it a try then
[01:45] <myersg> I used 264 and it was extremly fast for me
[01:45] <funnyhaha_> i did chown a:a /home/a/.ICEauthority
[01:45] <cincinnatus> usr13: I googled Ubuntu unity, and Ubuntu unity sucks showed in autocomplete. When things are that bad, I've learned to condition myself to hate it in order to maintain respect...
[01:45] <usr13> cincinnatus: The ones that like unity just don't say much about it.
[01:45] <sh_t> escott: where the target of those commands is the .git file for both?
[01:46] <funnyhaha_> and it seems to have fixed things but some thing seem not right
[01:46] <cincinnatus> I usually have a hard time hating the right things, riding the Internet hate wave... I got burned so many times before... For example, it took me a while to learn to hate XML
[01:46] <escott> sh_t, first you git clone git://foo.bar/bcache.git and it will create a folder for the bcache kernel
[01:46] <bazhang> cincinnatus, wrong place for that
[01:46] <sh_t> escott: got that.
[01:46] <escott> sh_t, then cd into that folder and git pull the ubuntu version
[01:46] <ActionParsnip> funnyhaha_: in what way. In future use gksudo for GUI apps, 'sudo nautilus' and 'sudo gedit' are not appropriate
[01:46] <Fyodorovna> cincinnatus, this is support do you need any?
[01:47] <cincinnatus> not really... I'm just wondering if it's purely aesthetic or maybe there's something I don't know about it
[01:47] <cincinnatus> (technical breakage, instability, etc)
[01:48] <ActionParsnip> cincinnatus: why not try it and see if you like it rather than having strangers tell you how to think
[01:48] <funnyhaha_> like at the log in for this chat they have the code word pic you have to type in but the pic takes a min to load and so do webpages
[01:49] <funnyhaha_> maybe its nothing
[01:49] <cincinnatus> The logic is simple. If it sucks, and I like it, I suck. If everyone says it sucks, but I don't see why, I need to educate myself
[01:49] <bazhang> cincinnatus, #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat
[01:49] <usr13> cincinnatus: Your logic is flawed.
[01:50] <CFHowlett> cincinnatus   educate yourself someplace other than the support channel please.  A little respect goes a long way.
[01:50] <ActionParsnip> cincinnatus: hugely flawed. I hope you don't do that with everything. Thats a really poor way to think
[01:50] <funnyhaha_> my girl suck and i like it... dose not mean i suck
 I would go with puppy 5.0.0
[01:51] <bazhang> myersg, thats not an ubuntu solution
[01:51] <will3032840> I need some help, how do I get dual screen resolution on ubuntu, at 640X480?
[01:51] <bazhang> will3032840, using xrandr ?
[01:51] <will3032840> xrandr???!?!
[01:51] <will3032840> OK, i'll try
[01:51] <usr13> will3032840: see   man xrandr
[01:51] <ActionParsnip> will3032840: what GPU?
[01:51] <Myrth> need help with ubuntu/grub/boot ssd driver - willing to pay - anyone interested?
[01:51] <myersg> ok, you want a ubuntu solution: go with ubuntu server because thats about all the ubuntu you will be able to get working...
[01:52] <will3032840> Intel expess series chipset 4.
[01:52] <usr13> Myrth: What do you need to do?
[01:52] <sh_t> escott: well it auto-merged quite a bit but there was also conflicts. I'm guessing his is an older kernel.
[01:52] <ActionParsnip> Myrth: no need to pay, just ask and the channel will try to help :)
[01:52] <bazhang> myersg, the lubuntu choice, the minimal built up, there are others. not just recommending Puppy first
[01:52] <sh_t> escott: I'm just going to roll with it anyways.. I assume I need to put something in the config to enable bcache?
[01:52] <will3032840> Ok so How do I get dual monitors at 640x480?
[01:53] <will3032840> and I really don't want to mess with my graphics in terminal.
[01:53] <usr13> will3032840: xrandr with no arguments will tell you what you have now.
[01:53] <Myrth> i'm getting desperate... working on this server for a day now.. i have a server with OCZ Z-drive R CM84 PCIe SSD
[01:53] <Myrth> they provide kernel module ocz10xx.ko
[01:53] <bazhang> !info arandr
[01:54] <will3032840> I have 1366x768.
[01:54] <bazhang> will3032840, install arandr then
[01:54] <Myrth> i've downloaded livecd and installed on usb with unetbootin
[01:54] <escott> sh_t, yeah. if there are conflicts you'll have to fix them up. you could undo the merge with a reset --hard (I don't recall if there is another way to abort a merge) and there is some option to specify whose version to use for conflicts, but depending on where they occur... presumably his should be limited to the vfs layer and some device driver for basic setup
[01:54] <Myrth> i'm able to mount the drive in livecd with insmod
[01:54] <Myrth> but i'm not able to boot from it
[01:54] <Myrth> i've tried many things in grub config
[01:54] <escott> sh_t, yes make menuconfig would allow you to configure, and you could copy the config from /boot
[01:54] <ActionParsnip> Myrth: you may need an SD card / USB to hold grub which you can then boot to
[01:55] <Myrth> ActionParsnip, you mean forever?
[01:55] <will3032840> what do I type, something like xrandr 59.9 or xrandr 640x480??
[01:55] <usr13> will3032840: type  man xrandr   hit enter, and read.
[01:56] <bazhang> will3032840, you said you wanted gui, then install arandr as I just said
[01:56] <will3032840> ok
[01:56] <sh_t> escott: the reset --hard worked, just looking into forcing which version to use now for conflicts
[01:56] <ActionParsnip> Myrth: possibly
[01:57] <escott> sh_t, looks like -s ours
[01:57] <zandt> k. so I grabbed the boot-repair liveusb to restore grub. the auto repair didn't restore it. it's my understand I can grub-install somehow, but I can't google the instructions (for some reason, it's letting me on irc but nothing will load in the browser)
[01:57] <Myrth> usr13: any 2nd opinion? :(
[01:57] <CFHowlett> !grub2|zandt
[01:57] <zandt> CFHowlett, :) read the last part
[01:58] <CFHowlett> zandt   yikes!
[01:58] <will3032840> by the way, thx for telling me how to do 640x480, I'm sure it's in software center :D
[01:58] <escott> sh_t, although reading the man that might not be what you want. its typical gitisms to me. 5 options that seem to do the same thing and only 1 is the right one to use. you might check with #git
[01:58] <zandt> CFHowlett, yeah, :|
[01:58] <ActionParsnip> Myrth: you may be able to add a boot option to load the module for the storage, not sure
[01:59] <ActionParsnip> Myrth: the SD card will be a lot easier, have you contacted the manufacturer
[01:59] <zandt> I know sudo fdisk -l to get the right one, but I'm not sure how to properly mount and what exactly I need to type after grub-install /dev/whatever
[01:59] <CFHowlett> zandt   if you can get irc but no internet, I'd suspect your port settings
[01:59] <Myrth> ActionParsnip, in that case i'll just install another HD
[01:59] <ActionParsnip> Myrth: all you need is an SD card, no need for a full drive
[01:59] <will3032840> (myrth, HD suggestion, WD scorpio black, or SSD, or SD card)
[02:00] <zandt> CFHowlett, I have no idea. I might just try to see if lynx or something works real quick
[02:00] <cincinnatus> I'm surprised that the new Ubuntu doesn't have a working bootloader configuration tool. I remember RedHat having that in the early 00s
[02:00] <will3032840> anyway, gtg, this chat is slowing down my software center. bye!
[02:00] <cincinnatus> Or am I missing something?
[02:00] <FernandoCueva> so
[02:01] <FernandoCueva> if I install it will not matter what version I use in terms of performance? should I just get the latest one then
[02:01] <zandt> lol, terrific. can't apt-get anything, it's not resolving the repos :P
[02:01] <Myrth> ActionParsnip, thank you for trying to help, there's no card reader there, and any way i'm going to install few other HDs there, 2x WD 2TB for local backup and 2x RAID SSD for files... probably RAID will have same issue, so i'll have to use backup drives for boot
[02:03] <FernandoCueva> does it matter what version of lubuntu I get in terms of performance? if not should I just install the latest one
[02:04] <CFHowlett> FernandoCueva   with latest hardware, go for the latest version.  If older hardware, stick with LTS releases.  If VERY old hardware, go with xubuntu or lubuntu
[02:04] <c[_]> im running out of space on Ubuntu and was wondering if i could try this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1625371
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> Myrth: makes sense :)
[02:05] <CFHowlett> c[_]  wubi is *not* a long term installation solution - it's an ubuntu testing platform.  If you like ubuntu, you are strongly encouraged to install it to a dual boot
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> c[_]: have you uninstalled unused kernels?
[02:05] <Fyodorovna> c[_], you might consider transferring it to a regular partition
[02:07] <FernandoCueva> CFHowlett, is a pentium 3 old or very old xD or were you talking about a 486
[02:07] <CFHowlett> FernandoCueva   I'd say 486 = very old.
[02:07] <ucbs> hi all
[02:07] <CFHowlett> ucbs   greetings
[02:08] <ActionParsnip> c[_]: could also use bleachbit to clean out temp files (have as many apps closed as possible)
[02:08] <ActionParsnip> c[_]: sudo apt-get clean    is a quick and easy start too
[02:08] <ucbs> nonoe wants to talk
[02:08] <CFHowlett> ucbs   greetings
[02:09] <sh_t> escott: slowly making progress, stay tuned. I should write a tutorial for this yeesh :P
[02:09] <CFHowlett> usbs  this is not a talk channel - it's support.
[02:09] <escott> sh_t, check gentoo or LFS docs b/c they do it all the time.
[02:10] <escott> sh_t, also perhaps more likely to find someone in #ubuntu-server who has done a build
[02:10] <escott> sh_t, last time i built a kernel was >5years ago
[02:10] <sh_t> escott: #git basically said you need to fetch then merge. so i fetched the .git file inside of the linux-bcache tree, but I dont know how to merge properly. running git merge -s ours doesnt fly
[02:10] <bazhang> !ot | ucbs
[02:10] <sh_t> escott: http://pastebin.com/zxeXWfQm
[02:11] <fedoracat> How can I get curses.h?
[02:11] <sh_t> im only a basic SVN user, i dont even think ive merged something before. just commit/update/co for me :p
[02:11] <ActionParsnip> !find curses.h
[02:11] <bitplane-> Hello, anyone using 12.04 and can help me test a bug? It's really easy to do
[02:11] <escott> sh_t, try -X ours instead
[02:12] <CFHowlett> bitplane-   do that in #ubuntu+1
[02:12] <ActionParsnip> bitplane-: ask in #ubuntu+1 for anyting Precise based
[02:12] <sh_t> escott: no go. Do I need to reference the .git file i just fetched somehow?
[02:12] <escott> sh_t, but honestly its reasonably likely you would need to look at those conflicts and deal with them manually
[02:12] <bitplane-> ActionParsnip: I tried but nobody is playing. it's dead in there
[02:12] <escott> sh_t, you need to specify the branch. look at "git branch -a" to see the branches known to you
[02:12] <ActionParsnip> bitplane-: then hang around, Precise isn't supported here
[02:12] <sh_t> escott: I'd like to try without doing that, as the maintainer notes that the changes are fairly localized
[02:13] <sh_t> escott running git branch -a only shows bcache related trees, nothing about the ubuntu-oneiric fetch :\
[02:13] <escott> sh_t, yeah. im just wondering why its finding conflicts then. that shouldn't happen if it finds a common root to the tree. alternately you could pull his tree and try to extract a patch against vanilla and then apply that patch to the oneiric kernel
[02:14] <sh_t> escott: differences between versions of unrelated, unmodified code i'd say
[02:14] <bg1> Guys, please, tell me where can i watch new south park episode online?? :(
[02:14] <sh_t> escott: could be wrong though
[02:14] <escott> sh_t, my git foo is pretty limited. you should ask in #git why you aren't getting the branches
[02:14] <bazhang> !ot | bg1
[02:15] <ActionParsnip> bg1: this is support only... #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:15] <bg1> ActionParsnip: sorry
[02:16] <escott> sh_t, point is thats not how git is supposed to work. if there is a common root then it should find the diff between bcache and the root, and then apply that diff to the branch you are trying to merge into
[02:17] <sh_t> yeeea.. about that
[02:22] <zruty> ActionParsnip: .. no.... It is weirder. I have a pccard bt interface, if I take that out and restart, the wired NIC is enabled and works as it should. If I then shove it in, the NIC keeps working and BT also starts up. But at boot time, the pccard must not be inserted or it disables the wired NIC.
[02:23] <ActionParsnip> zruty: are there any bugs reported?
[02:23] <zruty> ActionParsnip: Not that I know of
[02:23] <lesshaste> is it possible to get zoom working with a logitech quickcam pro 9000?
[02:23] <mobilenoob11> Stupid question: what command line tool for disk formating does ubuntu come with?
[02:23] <ActionParsnip> zruty: I suggest you report one
[02:23] <CFHowlett> mobilenoob11   fdisk
[02:23] <zruty> ActionParsnip: Okay. Launchpad was it? Bene a while since I done that...
[02:24] <lesshaste>  What driver/software should I use?
[02:24] <ActionParsnip> zruty: ubuntu-bug bluetooth      maybe, if it's not appropriate it will be moved by the ops
[02:25] <Karmaon> Do I seriously have to reinstall windows then ubuntu for me to get this phy0 wireless hard-block removed?
[02:26] <Dickson> test
[02:26] <Karmaon> Diamondcite: test ack!
[02:26] <Karmaon> Dickson: test ack...
[02:28] <zykotick9> mobilenoob11: technically fdisk is for disk partitioning not formatting.  Is it actually formatting that you are asking about?
[02:29] <mobilenoob11> This problem is annoying! I can't format an external hardrive; I get an error from diskutility, tried to chmod, chown. Annoyed!
[02:29] <mobilenoob11> Thats what I though about fdisk
[02:31] <c001> lsof -i :<portnum> is SICK, dude.  I <3 linux...
[02:31] <ActionParsnip> mobilenoob11: you don't want it mounted to format it
[02:32] <mobilenoob11> Oh!
[02:33] <Karmaon> Why does phy0 wireless show as hard-blocked? Hardware switches and fnf5 does nothing.
[02:33] <c001> If I want to disable services from starting automatically, do I just rename symlinks in /etc/rc<num>.d ??  what is the most recommended way to do that?
[02:33] <Karmaon> I'm afraid it's an hardware issue that only can be fixed with reinstalling windows
[02:34] <leo-unglaub> hi, i just installed ubuntuone for the thunderbird contact sync and the ubuntu one icons is in the thunderbrid addressbook
[02:34] <leo-unglaub> but i can't copy entry's in there
[02:34] <leo-unglaub> is ther something special i need to do?
[02:34] <Karmaon> hmm, maybe i can get a windows live-cd
[02:34] <sh_t> escott: git remote add oneiric git://blah/oneiric.git, git fetch oneiric, git merge remotes/oneiric/master, make :P its building, hopefully i can do something with it
[02:35] <escott> Karmaon, some hardware has acpi keys to disable, but linux doesn't know what register the acpi key is supposed to be messing with, so if you disable in windows you cannot reenable in linux. you might want to keep a windows install for that case
[02:35] <sh_t> escott: sorry that was git merge -s ours remotes/oneiric/master
[02:35] <bazhang> leo-unglaub, tried in #ubuntuone yet?
[02:35] <leo-unglaub> no, didn't know about this channel
[02:35] <leo-unglaub> sorry
[02:36] <escott> sh_t, what config are you using?
[02:36] <Karmaon> escott: i see
[02:36] <sh_t> escott: i copied the one from /boot, then did make oldconfig. it prompted me a few times for some new stuff and I hit Y
[02:36] <escott> sh_t, and when you said "ours" you got the local not the oneiric versions of the files
[02:36] <sh_t> i copied it to .config
[02:36] <escott> sh_t, good. make oldconfig is what you wanted
[02:39] <sh_t> escott: im assuming so. it didn really say anything
[02:40] <sh_t> escott: root@media-b42:~/linux-bcache# git merge -s ours remotes/oneiric/master \n Merge made by ours.
[02:40] <ertay> hi all.
[02:40] <CFHowlett> ertay   greetings
[02:43] <iananananan> What archaic chat protocols exist besides irc?
[02:43] <iananananan> telnet?
[02:43] <chori> Hola Mundo!! mi primer CHat en IRC xD                                         cual es el canal de Ubuntu en Español?
[02:43] <CFHowlett> !es|chori
[02:45] <chori> ubottu :O que genial estos Bots xD
[02:45] <chori> obottu pasas el test de turing?
[02:46] <escott> !es | chori
[02:46] <bazhang> chori, thats enough
[02:46] <bazhang> chori, /join #ubuntu-es
[02:49] <c001> how can I disable rpcbind on tcp 111
[02:50] <nickzorz> hey i have an issue with HTK
[02:50] <nickzorz> i have my user path settings to home/user/bin/htk/bin where all the executables are, but when i run my script it says the executable HLEd isn't found
[02:50] <nickzorz> any ideas?
[02:54] <nickzorz> anyone?
[02:55] <Tido> When I change workspaces, the active window always comes over to the new workspace. Is there a way to change this?
[02:55] <funnyhaha> how do i back up my kernel
[02:56] <c001> chkconfig shows service like cupsd, statd, and portmap off but they are on when i boot up.  how can i shut them off at boot?
[02:57] <funnyhaha> o no i mean back up my source code?\
[02:57] <funnyhaha> how ?
[02:57] <bazhang> funnyhaha, why would you need to do that, and what source are you talking about
[02:58] <funnyhaha> i am going to try some patches but if something goes wrong i want to undo it
[02:58] <escott> funnyhaha, have you heard of git?
[02:59] <funnyhaha> no
[02:59] <Loshki> nickzorz: check your path. Are you missing a leading slash? home -> /home...
[02:59] <funnyhaha> just got linux
[02:59] <bazhang> funnyhaha, try some patches? whatever for
[02:59] <funnyhaha> aircrack
[03:00] <CFHowlett> funnyhaha   aircrack is not supported here
[03:00] <bazhang> funnyhaha, this is linux running in a vm?
[03:00] <funnyhaha> vm
[03:00] <funnyhaha> what is that
[03:00] <funnyhaha> i am not useing vm
[03:00] <bazhang> funnyhaha,  a virtual machine
[03:01] <MonkeyDust> funnyhaha  first learn the ubuntu basics, then learn how to patch
[03:01] <bazhang> funnyhaha, you want to patch a kernel on a system you use?
[03:02] <funnyhaha> not sure i think the wifi card
[03:02] <funnyhaha> http://www.aircrack-ng.org/doku.php?id=patching
[03:03] <MonkeyDust> funnyhaha  it seems you don't even know what you're doing
[03:03] <bazhang> funnyhaha, not a good idea, if you dont even know the basics
[03:03] <funnyhaha> or better the driver
[03:03] <bazhang> funnyhaha, try #aircrack-ng
[03:03] <funnyhaha> ok thanks
[03:04] <bazhang> welcome
[03:05] <c001> chkconfig shows service like cupsd, statd, and portmap off but they are on when i boot up.  how can i shut them off at boot?
[03:07] <escott> c001, you won't be able to print if you turn off cupsd
[03:07] <c001> I hardly ever need to print from this linux box anyway so if I'll ever need to print I'll just turn it on temporarily.
[03:09] <escott> !upstart | c001
[03:17] <sham> Is there any reason why ubuntu updates take longer than fedora updates?  It seems like daily updates on Ubuntu takes 1 hour, on my really fast system.
[03:18] <Fyodorovna> sham, find apt-fast on the web and use it.
[03:18] <tensorpudding> maybe there are more updates, due to having more things to update
[03:18] <zandt> trying to fix grub. using boot-repair liveusb. the DNS settings are messed up on this distro for some reason, so I can't apt-get or google anything. for now I think I just need to mount (should I mount sda5 [linux] or just sda?) and then follow up questions...
[03:18] <sham> No I do a safe-upgrade every day.  Its not the downloading that is slow.  Its the Unpacking/Preparing.
[03:20] <Fyodorovna> zandt, the boot repair does not ask you to mount any partitions.
[03:20] <Fyodorovna> boot repair cd that is
[03:20] <zandt> Fyodorovna, as far as I can tell, it's only seeing sdb (which is the usb)
[03:20] <zandt> it's not seeing sda
[03:20] <sham> I'm watching it right now and its been more than a minute to update `htop`, which is a rather small commandline utility.
[03:20] <zandt> maybe I'm confused ?
[03:21] <Fyodorovna> zandt, what does suso fdisk -l in the terminal say pastebin iy.
[03:21] <Fyodorovna> it*
[03:21] <escott> sham, what filesystem are you running
[03:21] <sham> btrfs
[03:21] <Fyodorovna> sudo fdisk -l do zandt
[03:21] <zandt> Fyodorovna, okay if I just PM it to you ? the DNS settings on this are messed up for some reason
[03:21] <CarlFK> how do I remove all iptables rules?
[03:21] <escott> sham, bingo... btrfs was watch paint dry painful in 11.04 (seems better on my desktop with 11.10)
[03:22] <zandt> I will slow paste I promise :|
[03:22] <MonkeyDust> zandt  keep it in the channel, use pastebin
[03:22] <sham> really?  Damn, I'm running the latest too.  Any reason its slow?  Any workaround?  I installed btrfs thinking it would improve speed.
[03:22] <zandt> "the dns settings on this are messed up"
[03:22] <Fyodorovna> zandt, I don't do pm's
[03:23] <zandt> is why I asked
[03:23] <zandt> otherwise I would gladly just pastebin it
[03:24] <escott> sham, did you check the benchmarks? it seems to be mostly in the syncs which are causing some long waits on writeback. you could try libeatmydata, but you pick an experimental FS you have to live with it
[03:25] <sham> Damn, I screwed up, but point of no return here.
[03:25] <zandt> what I mean is... the boot-repair USB, the dns settings aren't messed up (I believe) because I can't browse or apt-get anything
[03:25] <zandt> which is frustrating in and of itself, but mostly I'm just trying to fix grub
[03:25] <zandt> so I can go back to normal booting with ubuntu
[03:25] <ActionParsnip> zandt: can you ping 8.8.8.8?
[03:26] <zandt> pinging now, looks like it's fine
[03:26] <Loshki> CarlFK: check out the man page for iptables. Look for something like iptables -F....
[03:26] <zandt> 0 percent packet loss
[03:26] <zandt> looks fine
[03:27] <ActionParsnip> zandt: ok then run:  echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf > /dev/null
[03:27] <CarlFK> Loshki: there is something like shorewall - trys to make simple things simple :)
[03:27] <ActionParsnip> zandt: you have a connection, just no DNS
[03:27] <birdman__> #who
[03:27] <escott> sham, eventually hopefully it gets to a point where it is usable across many systems, but that could take a while. see if the 12.04 kernel makes things better, but be prepared to reinstall because the 12.04 was forked from linus' tree about a month before some really nice btrfs updates that won't be available until 12.10 as a result (also you won't get the new btrfschk tools which are still ETA unknown)
[03:27] <Loshki> CarlFK: sorry, never heard of shorewall...
[03:28] <zandt> ActionParsnip, perfect
[03:28]  * zandt high fives
[03:28] <ActionParsnip> hehehe
[03:28] <gridbag> Is there a unity dev IRC channel?
[03:30] <ActionParsnip> gridbag: #unity    maybe
[03:30] <zandt> http://pastebin.com/FRVRuXpc fdisk output Fyodorovna & anyone else who wants to take pity
[03:31] <sham> Ugh, Thanks.  I read on some forum to -o nosync
[03:31] <rinzler> hmmm. tips on ousting a glitching compitz for xfce, anyone?
[03:32] <ActionParsnip> rinzler: install xfce4 package, log off and log in to xfce session
[03:33] <rinzler> ActionParsnip: that'll override compitz, i presume?
[03:33] <ActionParsnip> rinzler: it's compiz
[03:34] <rinzler> ahh. thanks.
[03:34] <ActionParsnip> rinzler: it will use xfwin4 as the WM instead of compiz and will use XFCE as the DE instead of Gnome
[03:34] <rinzler> :/
[03:34] <rinzler> DE?
[03:34] <ActionParsnip> desktop environment
[03:35] <rinzler> Right. realized that right after i typed it. :/
[03:35] <sacarlson> CarlFK: you want the simple way? sudo ufw disable ;    https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/firewall.html
[03:35] <rinzler> i'm on a roll tonight
[03:36] <sacarlson> CarlFK: or maybe a script that just deletes all http://paste.ubuntu.com/904939/
[03:36] <rinzler> wait, i've already got xfce and have been using it.. do I just need to install xfwin4 then?
[03:37] <zandt> brb, gotta stretch!
[03:37] <sham> Thanks escott!  Bye!
[03:39] <ActionParsnip> rinzler: it should be installed but doesn't hurt to install it again if needed
[03:40] <rinzler> ActionParsnip: in that case, how do i replace compiz with xfwin4?
[03:41] <ubuxubu> installing ubuntu 11.10 on a hp laptop it had 11.10 on it before ran well. at beginning of installduring the intro getting this...UBI PARTMAN FAILED EXIT CODE 141
[03:41] <rinzler> or would it require a reinstall of xfce...?
[03:43] <ubuxubu> suqs
[03:43] <zandt> back
[03:43] <curiousx> ciao a tutti
[03:44] <rinzler> apt-get is unable to locate any packages. any ideas?
[03:45] <ActionParsnip> rinzler: press ALT+F2 and run:  xfwin4 --replace
[03:46] <ActionParsnip> rinzler: the name may be slightly off
[03:46] <ActionParsnip> but you get the idea
[03:47] <jiltdil> Please tell me command to convert png image to ascii format?
[03:48] <curiousx> jiltdil: jp2a
[03:48] <jiltdil> curiousx,  but i think its for jpeg images
[03:49] <curiousx> let me see it
[03:49] <rinzler> ActionParsnip: it was xfwm4, but I got it. Thanks!!
[03:50] <curiousx> ye only jpg sry =(
[03:52] <ActionParsnip> rinzler: sweet
[03:53] <ActionParsnip> curiousx: could use image magick to convert to jpg first
[03:54] <curiousx> ye he could good idea =)
[03:54] <ActionParsnip> !info caca-utils
[03:54] <ActionParsnip> It opens most image formats such as JPEG, PNG, GIF etc. and renders them on the terminal using ASCII art.
[03:54] <curiousx> !info bb
[03:55] <nooblikesgr> hi all, I have a problem
[03:56] <nooblikesgr> My default terminal seems to be Debian terminal emulator on preferred applications, Im using xfce on ubuntu11.10
[03:56] <jiltdil> ActionParsnip,  we can simply  convert images to different formats by using a command "convert"
[03:56] <nooblikesgr> but whenever i close the terminal, i get input/output error
[03:56] <ActionParsnip> jiltdil: yes.   convert input.png output.png
[03:56] <curiousx> ye convert is part of imagemagick
[03:57] <jiltdil> ActionParsnip,  but i  want to know is there any command to convert png image to ascii format as jp2a is for jpg images
[03:57] <nooblikesgr> which terminal do you guys use?
[03:57] <Jon--> After enabled compiz, any <Super> bind I set up with xbindkeys is not working. How can I fix this? Ubnutu 11.10. I don't appear to have anything bound to <Super> using ccsm advanced search. Using gnome-classic interface.
[03:57] <curiousx> nooblikesgr: me gnome-terminal
[03:58] <chrislu5tic> HEY there, im running ubuntu 11.10,
[03:58] <chrislu5tic> I have forgotten how to install flash for youtube videos.
[03:58] <chrislu5tic> its been a while.   please refresh my mind
[03:58] <nooblikesgr> I want to use gnome terminal too, but aparently I cant
[03:58] <ActionParsnip> jiltdil: i'd read the man page, I just used cacaview here, worked well :)
[03:58] <curiousx> chrislu5tic: 32 bits or 64 ?
[03:58] <chrislu5tic> 32 bit.  AS far as I know,
[03:59] <jiltdil> ActionParsnip,  ok i am trying
[03:59] <curiousx> chrislu5tic: paste: uname -a
[04:00] <chrislu5tic>  3.0.0-17-generic #30-Ubuntu SMP Thu Mar 8 17:34:21 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[04:00] <tekkbuzz> I been using Fedora for probably 10 years, and looking for a reason to switch. Can anyone tell me why
[04:00] <collinjsimpson> tekk
[04:00] <curiousx> chrislu5tic: wget http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplatformruntimes/flashplayer11-2/flashplayer11-2_p6_install_lin_32_022712.tar.gz
[04:00] <tekkbuzz> why Ubuntu is better?
[04:00] <dr-willis> use what you want. try them all out
[04:00] <collinjsimpson> tekkbuzz, Games for Windows
[04:00] <curiousx> oh! sry wait a minute
[04:01] <dr-willis> you decide.
[04:01] <ActionParsnip> tekkbuzz: PPAs are cool
[04:01] <ActionParsnip> tekkbuzz: try it is all I can suggest, see what you reckon
[04:01] <curiousx> chrislu5tic: http://paste.ubuntu.com/904963/
[04:01] <sacarlson> tekkbuzz: if you only run a browser then fedora is fine,  if you need support of many other software with quick install then maybe ubuntu is for you
[04:01] <pup-0854> tekkbuzz, ubuntu tv
[04:01] <chrislu5tic> Thank you kindly sir
[04:02] <dr-willis> better or worse depends on what you do with the is
[04:02] <dr-willis> os
[04:02] <curiousx> np
[04:02] <almoxarife> tekkbuzz: better? an abacus ? backlit of course
[04:03] <pup-0854> I really like Gnome 3 on fedo 12
[04:03] <jiltdil> ActionParsnip,   img2txt is also working :)
[04:03] <curiousx> Chuguniy: tell me when its downloaded
[04:03] <ActionParsnip> jiltdil: nice :D
[04:03] <tekkbuzz> I run a bit of everything, 2 screens -- media, tv, ect. , not really gaming though.
[04:04] <tekkbuzz> I hate upgrading fedora, always have to fix stuff.
[04:04] <ActionParsnip> tekkbuzz: use it on a USB, see what you think, you can always install later (using the same USB)
[04:04] <sacarlson> tekkbuzz: I'm like you if it's not broke don't fix it
[04:04] <tekkbuzz> thanks ActionParsnip, I think I'll do that.
[04:05] <almoxarife> tekkbuzz: so run a hybrid, a gnoku works for me
[04:05] <pup-0854> I like the fedora shell
[04:05] <tekkbuzz> sacarlson: exactly
[04:05] <tekkbuzz> I got a tv/radio card can't get the radio to work.
[04:05] <almoxarife> does linus supply the kernel for fedora?
[04:05] <sacarlson> tekkbuzz: but when I see some app I want that I can no longer install then it's time to fix with backports or if that fails it's time to upgrade
[04:06] <Jon--> After enabled compiz, any <Super> bind I set up with xbindkeys is not working. How can I fix this? Ubnutu 11.10. I don't appear to have anything bound to <Super> using ccsm advanced search. Using gnome-classic interface.
[04:06] <ActionParsnip> almoxarife: its the same code, just different build options
[04:06] <almoxarife> ActionParsnip: exactly my point
[04:07] <tekkbuzz> sacarlson: I usually don't upgrade until I have to, about every 4 major upgrades.
[04:07] <dr-willis> there was a point?
[04:07] <almoxarife> dr-willis: yes, goes back to 'what is better??' being a nonsense question
[04:08] <tekkbuzz> Yes, Why is Ubuntu better?
[04:09] <dr-willis> depends on your needs tekkbuzz
[04:09] <tekkbuzz> Is upgrading painless?
[04:09] <almoxarife> tekkbuzz: because there is money driving the pony show, money makes things happen
[04:09] <ActionParsnip> tekkbuzz: do you mean between releases or just normal upgrades?
[04:09] <dr-willis> no one in here claimed its better
[04:09] <tekkbuzz> between release
[04:10] <dr-willis> i always do clean installs.
[04:10] <ActionParsnip> tekkbuzz: i couldn't comment there, I always clean install ALL linux distros when a new release is out rather than upgrade
[04:10] <tekkbuzz> dr-willis: I thought if I came here, someone could convince me.
[04:10] <bsidhipo> tekkbuzz: generally painless
[04:10] <ActionParsnip> tekkbuzz: some people report success
[04:11] <dr-willis> tekkbuzz:  this is support. not a marketing channel. g
[04:11] <pup-0854> I heard once " all operating systems suck "
[04:11] <tekkbuzz> It usually hurts so bad, to do clean upgrades, I lose alot and usually takes 2-3 weeks to complete.
[04:11] <ActionParsnip> pup-0854: they do, check the song by 3 dead trolls in a baggie ;)
[04:11] <dr-willis> try the options out. use what you want.
[04:12] <tekkbuzz> pup-0854: LOL
[04:12] <bsidhipo> tekkbuzz: eh?  2-3 weeks?
[04:12] <rinzler> can anyone recommend a good ftp server software?
[04:12] <ActionParsnip> rinzler: openssh-server   gives an SFTP server
[04:12] <rinzler> oh. cool :P
[04:12] <dr-willis> clean install here  takes me about 2hrs perhaps...
[04:12] <rinzler> nevermind then...
[04:12] <sacarlson> rinzler: i just use the ssh-server as my sftp
[04:13] <dr-willis> i dont recall loseong anything ;)
[04:13] <tekkbuzz> all the little config file to configure take forever, apache, ssh, ect., ect.
[04:13] <tracekill> Is 12.04 as game changing as I've been hearing?
[04:13] <tekkbuzz> mysql, php
[04:13] <ActionParsnip> tekkbuzz: keep a separate partition for /home and it should help
[04:13] <almoxarife> nothing more entertaining than a 'linux snob', they re-inforce my need for ever more gui's to take the pain out of a terminal
[04:14] <dr-willis> you should be keeping backups of custom config files in the frist place
[04:14] <ActionParsnip> tekkbuzz: if its for a web server then have a separate partition for /var  and so on, you only need to upgrade the OS so the user data will not need touching
[04:15] <bsidhipo> tekkbuzz: what could you possibly do to configure SSH to such a degree?  apache?  you can use separate config file for that ... that's a good practice anyway, so you can upgrade the OS and restore just the files you customize
[04:15] <ActionParsnip> tekkbuzz: if you need to reinstall, you can tell the installer to use the partition but NOT format it and it will be available on the first reboot
[04:15] <almoxarife> ActionParsnip: what percentage of the drive would you recommend for a /home partition?
[04:15] <tekkbuzz> ActionParsnip: problem is every upgrade has newer config files that have to be merged together or lose funtionallity.
[04:15] <dr-willis> almoxarife: as big as possible
[04:15] <ActionParsnip> almoxarife: depends on use
[04:15] <darkfiber> my session froze last night, so i shutdown and everything seemed fine, now when i try to boot i can login but cant get the desktop, im in recovery console now, how do i fix this?
[04:16] <bsidhipo> tekkbuzz: if you configure it (apache, for example) right, then it's more or less one or two lines in the main config file that #include another file (which you keep from version to version)
[04:16] <ActionParsnip> tekkbuzz: I see, could cause issues. I see why you are concerned now
[04:16] <ActionParsnip> almoxarife: my systems are for web browsing and chat, so my / partition is only 10Gb, the rest is give to /home after I set another partition for swap
[04:17] <ActionParsnip> almoxarife: http://paste.ubuntu.com/904978/
[04:18] <tracekill> Attempting to upgrade to 12.04... it's estimating over a day to complete the installation (everything's already downloaded) in-place upgrade from 11.10. Is this reasonable or is something messed up?
[04:19] <dr-willis> i tend to use 20gb for / rest for home
[04:19] <caf4926> almoxarife: but use your brain... think about how big your HD is. If you have a 1 TB HD and set 2GB swap and 20GB / it wouldn't make sense to use all the rest for /home. Many users have side by side multiple installs..
[04:19] <ActionParsnip> dr-willis: I'm on about 3Gb so 10Gb is groovy here :)
[04:20] <dr-willis> i have fillef up a 10gb /. well it wad /tmp that filled up....
[04:20] <ActionParsnip> almoxarife: I also put web cache into tempfs, makes it a little faster as well as saves using the HDD
[04:20] <almoxarife> dr-willis: 20gb? really? I don't know why it seems like a small amount,
[04:20] <ActionParsnip> almoxarife: shared libs :)
[04:21] <dr-willis> hd suzes are big.. make it bigger if ya want.
[04:21] <almoxarife> ActionParsnip: web cache in tempfs??? I'll admit it, over my head
[04:22] <dr-willis> remastering some dvds filled up /tmp for me once
[04:22] <ActionParsnip> almoxarife: in a ram drive
[04:22] <ubuxubu> cant install unubtu
[04:22] <almoxarife> ActionParsnip: ok, thnks
[04:22] <ubuxubu> never thought idsee the dat
[04:22] <ubuxubu> day
[04:22] <dr-willis> ubuxubu:  more details.... will help
[04:23] <IronSight> ubottu, did you try the alternate (ncurses) installer?
[04:23] <caf4926> ubuxubu: what version
[04:23] <IronSight> erm, ubuxubu ^^
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[04:23] <ubuxubu> *
[04:23] <ubuxubu> 11.10
[04:23] <IronSight> partition manager failed?
[04:23] <ubuxubu> UBI PARTMAN FAILED EXIT CODE 141
 *
[04:24] <ubuxubu> that what it says
[04:24] <caf4926> ubuxubu: you can boot to a live session?
[04:24] <ubuxubu> it had 11.10 on there before and ran well
[04:24] <ubuxubu> yes live works
[04:24] <caf4926> ubuxubu: post result of
[04:24] <dr-willis> try partioning by hand. with gparted.
[04:24] <ubuxubu> but it wont instal l frm live either same error
[04:24] <caf4926> ubuxubu: sudo fdisk -l
[04:25] <ubuxubu> if i do gparted i think it will blow away vista
[04:25] <caf4926> ubuxubu: manual partitioning is way better
[04:25] <dr-willis> not if yiu do it right...
[04:25] <ubuxubu> how can i recalin the 20 g partiton i made for it and the 1 g swap?
[04:26] <ubuxubu> i did manually part it with wondows
[04:26] <ubuxubu> should in format the parts i made too
[04:26] <caf4926> ubuxubu: I'd say we need to see fdisk
[04:26] <ubuxubu> maybe if i format the partitions??
[04:26] <dr-willis> ubuxubu:  use linux tools to make linux partitions
[04:26] <dr-willis> and format them peoperly
[04:27] <ubuxubu> its like this c drive is 120g vista f was built for ubuntu g was built for swap h is recovery
[04:27] <ubuxubu> real simple
[04:27] <ubuxubu> it had buntu on it before in those same parts
[04:27] <pup-0854> Lawl @ bot
[04:27] <dr-willis> windows made them ntfs or vfat i imagime. not wgat you want
[04:27] <ubuxubu> i know but buntu would of changed that
[04:27] <dr-willis> ubuxubu: windows made them ntfs.. is my guess
[04:27] <caf4926> ubuxubu: c, f, g is all a load of bollocks
[04:27] <IronSight> ubuxubu, looks like... it was reported to the bug list... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/527848
[04:28] <ubuxubu> when u check off ext4
[04:28] <ubuxubu> but it cant get that far
[04:28] <ubuxubu> yes its a bug i knkw
[04:28] <ubuxubu> but how do i fix it
[04:28] <ubuxubu> or at least get my space back
[04:28] <dr-willis> use gparted.. reformat them to ext4
[04:28] <ubuxubu> reformat what
[04:28] <darkfiber> my network connections froze last night, so i shutdown and everything seemed fine, now when i try to boot i can login but cant get the desktop, im in recovery console now, how do i fix this?
[04:28] <bsidhipo> ubuxubu: in windows disk manager, get rid of your linux partitions (drive f:, g:, and h:), leaving one big area of empty unallocated space.  boot into live cd.  do the install.  sit back and relax.
[04:29] <dr-willis> the partitions yiu want to use
[04:29] <pup-0854> ubuxubu,  wow still on that bug good job.
[04:29] <ubuxubu> ok ill brb
[04:29] <thunder1212> i have a dell laptop, and it does not shutdown .. it gets stuck when i send the shutdown signal and if i restart it is quiet slow and does that with a distinct "tuckK" sound
[04:29] <ubuxubu> i go into doze and make the partition blank
[04:30] <dr-willis> easier to use gparted from the cd.....
[04:30] <thunder1212> it is a new laptop only 4 mnths old. vostro 1450 core i3 2gb ram
[04:30] <bsidhipo> thunder: boot into ubuntu if you can.  run "disk utility", see the SMART information.  check if there's any reallocated sector or unreadable sector (signs the drive is dying / dead)
[04:32] <cc11rocks> Ubuntu 12.04 Beta 2 will be out in approx. 21.5 hours?
[04:33] <darkfiber> noones going to answer?
[04:33] <bsidhipo> darkfiber: why not read .xsession-errors ?
[04:33] <cc11rocks> Guess not...
[04:35] <cc11rocks> If anyone is going to answer my question (Ubuntu 12.04 Beta 2 will be out in approx. 21.5 hours?), wait until I come back in 10 min. please. I will message when I return
[04:41] <dr-willis> i imagine beta 2will be out when its ready.. not some exact time
[04:42] <ubuxubu> ok its gonna work now
[04:42] <ubuxubu> whew
[04:42] <Mneumonic> I am anxious for beta 2, beta 1 was nearly perfect on my machine
[04:43] <ubuxubu> if antone else gets that message i know wut 2 do now
[04:44] <ubuxubu> for some reason i had to delete the swap...using vista part mgr then the it wasabsorbed automaticallt into the original 20g i set aside for buntu leaving it as just a healthy raw part
[04:44] <bsidhipo> so who here uses gnome-shell instead of unity?
[04:45]  * Karmaon raises hand
[04:45] <triscuit> me
[04:45] <tracekill> I do currently but supposedly they fixed some of the erratic behavior in 12.04
[04:45] <Mneumonic> Gnome shell is alright but Unity is growing on me.  12.04 Unity is one of the best DE's around
[04:45] <tracekill> Which is going to take.... 8 hours to install!
[04:45] <tracekill> YAY
[04:45] <triscuit> I don't like docks
[04:45] <tracekill> Mneumonic, did you do an in-place upgrade form 11.10?
[04:45] <triscuit> that's really the only thing, gnome seems to be smoother in 12.04 to
[04:46] <bsidhipo> mneumonic: the final straw for me (unity) was the spastic dock on the left
[04:46] <dr-willis> Mneumonic: if you are upgrafeing regullary then you basivally allready have beta 2
[04:46] <Mneumonic> The only problem with Unity for me in 11.10 is that sometimes icons in the dock will duplicate themselves
[04:46] <Mneumonic> That seems fixed in 12.04
[04:47] <triscuit> there' were bately any updates today
[04:47] <triscuit> barely
[04:47] <arinov> hi
[04:48] <dr-willis> fewer updates as the release progresses
[04:48] <triscuit> yeah
[04:48] <cc11rocks> Thank you dr-willis
[04:48] <bsidhipo> random note: if you use ice cream sandwich's "roboto" font on ubuntu, you have to tell fontconfig to remap the weight "black" to "roboto black" otherwise your normal font look too heavy
[04:48] <newblikegra> Does anyone here use Xfce4 terminal?
[04:48] <arinov> when the next LTS will be released?
[04:48] <dr-willis> !lts
[04:48] <gridbag> after you "Remove from Launcher", how do you add it back?  When I drag/drop the .desktop file, it doesn't take.
[04:49] <cc11rocks> April 26, 2012 arinov
[04:49] <dr-willis> 12.04 is a lts i thought
[04:49] <Mneumonic> open a program, right click the icon in the laucnher, select "keep in launcher"\
[04:49] <cc11rocks> 12.04 IS an lts
[04:49] <zykotick9> dr-willis: it is
[04:49] <kevdog> newblikegra: yes
[04:49] <Xabster> This isn't a pure ubuntu question, but does anyone know how to make xchat store your "ignore join/part" of the channels that you select it for?
[04:49] <arinov> cc11rocks: one month... soon
[04:50] <cc11rocks> here, here arinov
[04:50] <dr-willis> Xabster:  it rembers them here. by default
[04:50] <Xabster> dr-willis, mine doens't
[04:50] <newblikegra> I use IRSSI I wouldn't know
[04:50] <cc11rocks> I'm a Linux Mint user myself (LM 12 running right now), but I'm willing to give Ubuntu 12.04 a try until LM 13 comes out
[04:50] <kevdog> I'm wondering what the best way to upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04 -- gosh darn I hate upgrading
[04:50] <dr-willis> Xabster:  its rembered them here for ages..
[04:50] <cc11rocks> kevdog : reninstall is recommended - from scratch
[04:51] <bsidhipo> kevdog: distupgrade?
[04:51] <dr-willis> kevdog:  do a clean install then
[04:51] <arinov> it will be my third autoupgrade
[04:51] <cc11rocks> That way you can't have any issues...I've built scripts to
[04:51] <dr-willis> i rarely upgrade.
[04:51] <newblikegra> Do you guys really use Unity desktop?
[04:51] <arinov> from 10.10 without problems
[04:51] <bsidhipo> newblikegra: nah, gnome-shell here
[04:51] <dr-willis> newblikegra:  err.. yes.
[04:51] <cc11rocks> reconfigure once I do a reinstall
[04:51] <kevdog> I hate clean upgrades -- I got a separate home partition -- but all the customization within /etc and the udev scripts --- SUCKS
[04:51] <newblikegra> How long did it take to get used to it?
[04:51] <arinov> newblikegra: i use
[04:51] <Xabster> dr-willis, do you think I got some sort of permission problem?
[04:51] <dr-willis> clean upgrade? ....
[04:51] <cc11rocks> Cinnamon here for me...
[04:52] <arinov> since it stand in default installation
[04:52] <voidx> I think I just made a stupid mistake running this command in home directory "sed 's/\([a-z]*\) \([a-z]*\)/\2 \1/'"
[04:52] <newblikegra> I hadn't used Ubuntu since testing 10.04, when I installed 11.10 I raged in 5 minutes and instal installed Xfce
[04:52] <dr-willis> Xabster:  possiblw. delete the xchat configs and let it remake them
[04:52] <voidx> Anybody please tell me what its gonna do
[04:52] <bsidhipo> voidx: nothing since there's no redirection
[04:52] <cc11rocks> 10.10 << Good release. 11.04 << Bad release. 12.04 << Should be good release :)
[04:53] <voidx> bsidhipo: but it hung up for a while before I killed it
[04:53] <kevdog> where is 11.10 in that schema?
[04:53] <dr-willis> so.. you used unity for a whole 5 min... then gave up..
[04:53] <bsidhipo> voidx: it "hung" because it was reading stdin :-)
[04:53] <newblikegra> IMO the default installation should have at least 2 desktop managers to choose from
[04:53] <cc11rocks> I left it out because I didn't do much testing for 11.10...
[04:53] <Xabster> dr-willis, filename hint?
[04:53] <cc11rocks> So I'm not gonna comment...
[04:53] <dr-willis> Xabster:  look for a .xchat dir perhaps
[04:53] <kevdog> I wanted to use unity, but I couldn't see my desktop because the unity bar was taking up the entire screen
[04:54] <newblikegra> same, and that's just the start of problems
[04:54] <voidx> bsidhipo: oh ok. thank you much. I'm trying to learn this tool reading the official documentation, but its kinda unclear
[04:54] <cc11rocks> I'm going to try to go to my first "installfest" to try to help newbies and talk and such this weekend...
[04:54] <newblikegra> What I can't really understand is the logic behind the designers and what exactly were they thinking.
[04:54] <kevdog> cc11rocks: good for you, exciting
[04:54] <Xabster> dr-willis, wxabster@michael-desktop:~$ whereis xchat
[04:54] <Xabster> xchat: /usr/bin/xchat /usr/lib/xchat /usr/include/xchat /usr/share/man/man1/xchat.1.gz
[04:54] <cc11rocks> My loco team is meeting 10 miles from my house :) ...So I'ma check it out
[04:54] <bsidhipo> voidx: re-run that command again, enter "foo bar" (no quotes) press enter.  you should see the output "bar foo"
[04:55] <dr-willis> unity dev team i think detail their logic in the forums
[04:55] <kevdog> cc11rocks: the loco team near me is dead
[04:55] <newblikegra> It must be a very good example of what not to read for desginers
[04:55] <cc11rocks> kevdog : Start a new one :)
[04:55] <dr-willis> Xabster:  .xchat    not xchat. a dir i  your home i imagine.
[04:55] <voidx> bsidhipo: cool, thx :)
[04:55] <kevdog> cc11rocks: How?  How to get the word out?
[04:55] <newblikegra> I mean seriously, there are 10 customizations options for the entire OS
[04:56] <cc11rocks> loco.ubuntu.com
[04:56] <dr-willis> newblikegra:  so?
[04:56] <cc11rocks> Mailing lists and such
[04:56] <newblikegra> what do you mean so?
[04:56] <bsidhipo> newblikegra: what are you going on about? :-)
[04:56] <newblikegra> not having cuztomization options doesn't bother you?
[04:56] <almoxarife> the ease of configuration in plasma-desktop with the click and shoot ease of cairo-dock makes for a happy desktop
[04:57] <kevdog> cc11rocks: I'll have to check that out!  The irc channel for the loco was dead
[04:57] <dr-willis> newblikegra:  given how mych time i see spent wasted on fixing peoples screwed up customizations... no it does not bother me
[04:57] <cc11rocks> I see...The IRC loco is dead...but they said that it usually is with the sign up email
[04:57] <cc11rocks> Certain times of the day for sceduling, depending on the loco team
[04:57] <newblikegra> it botehrs me because I like breaking and fixing things
[04:58] <kevdog> cc11rocks: report back how it goes
[04:58] <newblikegra> I'd be on win if I didnt
[04:58] <bsidhipo> newblikegra: run gentoo then ... tweaks galore
[04:58] <dr-willis> 'have good default settings' is more imporntant
[04:58] <cc11rocks> And they scedule events and stuff on the loco site and stuff...on the personalized one (for your area)
[04:58] <cc11rocks> Will do kevdog
[04:58] <newblikegra> everyone says that I should check it out
[04:59] <newblikegra> Can I triple boot without messing the awesome simple bootloader from Ubuntu through Wubi?
[04:59] <kevdog> gentoo --- what a waste of time --- customize is all you do, and compile, and wait, and break thing, and fix things, then twea
[04:59] <bsidhipo> kevdog: it has its uses
[04:59] <dr-willis> newblikegra:  i say avoid wubi if possible
[04:59] <newblikegra> Yes yes that's exactly what I want to do
[04:59] <kevdog> wubi?
[04:59] <bsidhipo> kevdog: my little tower of pandaboards run gentoo, for example
[04:59] <newblikegra> I've already used Wubi for my OS
[04:59] <cc11rocks> GRUB can/should be able to handle multiple OS's (even 3)
[04:59] <almoxarife> newblikegra: I got one for you, 12.04 will include dnsmasq as the default dns-cache, prior configuration of dnsmasq by the user is now ignored, how does one get around it?
[05:00] <kevdog> bsidhipo: why not something else?
[05:00] <dr-willis> wubi is problematic.
[05:00] <bsidhipo> kevdog: it's small and to the point
[05:00] <newblikegra> I really don't understand any of that almozarife
[05:00] <bsidhipo> kevdog: besides i can customize and debug, for example, framebuffer driver easily
[05:00] <newblikegra> Wubi was the default way to install on ubuntu.com to dual boot with existing OS
[05:00] <almoxarife> newblikegra: but you use irrsi I thought?
[05:01] <newblikegra> yes just started today
[05:01] <kevdog> bsidhipo: Id have no idea how to customize a framebuffer driver even if I wanted to
[05:01] <newblikegra> But I'm new, trying to learn things
[05:01] <newblikegra> besides IRSSI is awfully easy to use
[05:01] <newblikegra> on my Xfce4 terminal with no borders no menubar transparent background
[05:01] <newblikegra> feelsgoodman
[05:02] <almoxarife> newblikegra: I bet it is, right after you learn all the key codes, meanwhile I will continue to use 'pidgin' , pidgin kicks the llamas a.......
[05:03] <newblikegra> Are there many key codes for IRSSI?
[05:03] <bsidhipo> newblikegra: i wouldn't worry about customization just yet .. figure out how the whole OS works.  linux has piled on many technologies over the years and it's now got a LOT of stuff running just to make a working desktop environment
[05:03] <kevdog> newblikegra: Cant you just modify the profile
[05:03] <bsidhipo> newblikegra: i'd learn about those things first
[05:03] <newblikegra> bsidhipo for example?
[05:03] <dr-willis> i perfer weechat to irssi these days
[05:03] <newblikegra> ive started a book on bash scripting but don't know what else to do
[05:03] <newblikegra> weechat is awesome!
[05:04] <Cheese> Hi I need help
[05:04] <bsidhipo> newblikegra: easiest, "network manager" ... how does it really work?  wifi?  wpa-psk?  supplicant?
[05:04] <newblikegra> weechat on IE on Win7 GG
[05:04] <newblikegra> hmm I'm going to search about these
[05:04] <bsidhipo> newblikegra: after networking, look into sound arbitration (or lack of) among users, then things like automounter, etc.
[05:04] <newblikegra> I looked into SSH etc earlier its itneresting
[05:04] <Cheese> I use wubi resize, but then I accidently shut my laptop off
[05:04] <kevdog> newblikegra: what are you trying to learn about other than everything
[05:04] <newblikegra> everything else :)
[05:04] <bsidhipo> newblikegra: then udev, sysfs, procfs, etc.  those are the tweaks you want
[05:05] <dr-willis> weechat on ie? must be a different weechat
[05:05] <arinov> cc11rocks: last good was 7.04 kubuntu
[05:05] <newblikegra> ty for the suggestions I'll look into whatever I can remember
[05:05] <Xabster> newblikegra, you started a book...?
[05:05] <bsidhipo> newblikegra: desktop environment tweaks are skin deep.  sysfs and procfs tweaks are OS-wide :-)
[05:05] <newblikegra> but I'm still really new to Linux etc
[05:05] <dr-willis> !info weechat
[05:05] <kevdog> newblikegra: I'd look at firewalls and security first -- included in that would be ssh, remote desktops, mixmaster
[05:05] <sidvee> I have a hp tablet. Can someone please suggest be any good package for using my touchscreen system for free-writing using digitzer?
[05:05] <newblikegra> I started "reading" a book I should say
[05:05] <Cheese> Need help!
[05:06] <Xabster> Ah, that makes a whole lot more sense
[05:06] <bsidhipo> sidvee: i see your question but i have no idea.  just saying, so you won't feel ignored
[05:06] <kevdog> I started a book once,  never got past writing the first word...
[05:06] <newblikegra> also Im trying to learn Vim editor but seems awfully hard to get used to
[05:07] <newblikegra> The first word must be your name?
[05:07] <sidvee> bsidhipo: That so nice of you! I have felt ignored lots of time, glad not today. :)
[05:07] <kevdog> newblikegra: yes you should learn how to work exclusively from the command line with as little gui as possible
[05:07] <bsidhipo> newblikegra: quit now while you haven't been tainted by vim.  if you get used to vim keymapping, you'd be demanding it everywhere.  only downhill from there.
[05:08] <dr-willis> vim. its a way of life.....
[05:08] <newblikegra> its np I can just carry the portable Vim on my flash
[05:08] <Xabster> kevdog, is that sarcastic?
[05:08] <kevdog> can someone explain to me how to copy and paste in vim?
[05:08] <dr-willis> !info vigor
[05:08] <kevdog> Xabster: no
[05:08] <newblikegra> but I think it'll take time, and I don't know if I;ll even continue
[05:08] <Xabster> kevdog, do you know what year it is?
[05:08] <newblikegra> since I don't see that really big of advantage over other text editors like Notepad++
[05:08] <bsidhipo> dr-willis: i had a vanity plate in NC once (never did get it, lost in mail) ->   ESC:Q!
[05:08] <newblikegra> also, Emacs seems MUCH harder than Vim
[05:08] <sidvee> How do i open same file (say a video) with different media player using the command line.
[05:09] <Xabster> sidvee, program file
[05:09] <bsidhipo> dr-willis: i was mad it got lost ... cuz they wouldn't issue me a new one, darn it.  was PERFECT plate ...
[05:09] <dr-willis> sidvee:  nameofplayer filename
[05:09] <kevdog> Xabster: when you remote into your server from afar -- b/c I have no T1 dedicated line -- gui tools are still really slow
[05:09] <newblikegra> sidvee type <program to open with> <name of file> on the Terminal>
[05:09] <Xabster> kevdog, sure, you're a 2000 users living in 2012 - that's what I understand
[05:10] <Xabster> I don't even know what T1
[05:10] <sidvee> Xabster: dr-willis newblikegra Damn, i feel so stupid after listening to the answer.
[05:10] <Xabster> I got 30/mbit
[05:10] <Xabster> 30/30mbitØ
[05:10] <Xabster> *
[05:10] <bsidhipo> kevdog: use low-bandwidth X then?  nomachine's maybe?
[05:10] <Xabster> god damnit!
[05:10] <dr-willis> i ssh from my android phone. ;)
[05:11] <kevdog> Xabster: rich guy.  Try remote into your server and try to do anything really graphics intensive -- ok gedit doesn't really slow it down with tunneling X over ssh, but god forbid if you had to do anything else
[05:11] <dr-willis> remote desktop never work well for me
[05:11] <bsidhipo> xabster: T1 = 1.544 megabits / sec
[05:11] <sidvee> Any good handwriting recognition s/w for ubuntu? #tablet
[05:11] <dr-willis> bbl
[05:11] <kevdog> I think I got like 5 meg up
[05:11] <Xabster> kevdog, do you call 169 DKK for internet rick?
[05:11] <newblikegra> Human eyes
[05:12] <Xabster> richØ
[05:12] <Xabster> rich*
[05:12] <zeroblock> hello all ! Im new here
[05:12] <newblikegra> HiHI
[05:12] <kevdog> homey say what
[05:12] <kaukassus> Hey
[05:12] <sidvee> Any good handwriting recognition s/w for ubuntu? #tablet
[05:12] <bsidhipo> kevdog: it's not bandwidth that kills you.  it's the latency.
[05:12] <zeroblock> I dont know how to close irssi's tab about nickserv identify page, how to do it
[05:12] <newblikegra> sidvee I hate when I have to say this but this might not be the right place,
[05:12] <kevdog> ok... end result its still unusable in most cases
[05:13] <newblikegra> I'd google first unless you want opinions on the best one, which I don't think anyone here has since few people use tablets
[05:13] <bsidhipo> kevdog: no.  you just have to use solutions like, ok, Exceed onDemand (commercial)
[05:13] <Xabster> kevdog, your terms of use are not relevant to me
[05:13] <sidvee> newblikegra: Oh is it? I know no other place. I always seek help here. :-(
[05:13] <Xabster> I'm sorry you only have 1.5mbit
[05:13] <bsidhipo> kevdog: with EOD, we can work interactive in San Jose (CA) from, for example, Austin (TX) without noticeable delays
[05:13] <newblikegra> zeroblock do you really need to close it? though I don't know how to do it either
[05:14] <newblikegra> sidvee try google.com for a start
[05:14]  * syn-ack installs a FreeBSD system on VMware
[05:14] <newblikegra> also I'm having a feeling you're a bad troll since you're on IRC
[05:14] <kevdog> Can't really afford the exceed, so I just rely on terminal apps, and that cuts the mustard for me
[05:14] <kukuruza> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgXJbJeRxHo give me opinion about this!
[05:14] <bsidhipo> kevdog: there are free solutions too (like nomachine's NX i told you about)
[05:15] <sidvee> quit()
[05:15] <Xabster> kukuruza, >attention-seeking label>
[05:15] <Xabster> <
[05:15] <kevdog> bsidhipo: no machine is worse than just tunneling x -- plus it crashes a lot with me
[05:15] <newblikegra> zeroblock did you try wc?
[05:15] <zeroblock> newblikegra: cause I have join 4 channel at a time , I have to switch it like ALT+2,3,5,6
[05:15] <Xabster> god damnit ! i meant <
[05:16] <zeroblock> I want to make it like ALT+2345
[05:16] <newblikegra> zeroblock you can also alt right/left arrow which is what I use
[05:16] <newblikegra> did you try /wc?
[05:16] <bsidhipo> kevdog: sometimes you have to go graphical.  for example, what about ilo / drac from half a continent away?  you surely don't suggest getting on a plane to push a button :-)
[05:16] <curiousx> gnome 3.4 will comes with boxes to virtualizate OS and connect to remote OSs
[05:16] <zeroblock> newblikegra: /wc is work for me , thanks for teaching me
[05:16] <zeroblock> :)
[05:16] <Myrth> hi, how do i add a kernel module to initramfs ?
[05:16] <newblikegra> npnp :)
[05:17] <newblikegra> Also I think Alt + arrow keys is easier than Alt + number
[05:17] <syn-ack> myrth You have to rebuild the initial ram disk
[05:17] <kevdog> bsidhipo: never used those programs, so I really wouldn't know
[05:17] <Myrth> is there a tutorial? btw i'm using livecd
[05:18] <Myrth> i want to boot from ssd, which requires that driver
[05:18] <Xabster> and kevdog, i didn't mean to be demeaning - i just don't have that sort of problems
[05:18] <Xabster> or needs, rather
[05:18] <syn-ack> myrth What are you trying to do that that the ram disk doesn't have the module you need?
[05:18] <newblikegra> Myrth maybe this'll help, though I know nothing about it
[05:18] <newblikegra> http://askubuntu.com/questions/19376/installing-ubuntu-on-a-ssd
[05:19] <bsidhipo> kevdog: in case you're interested, ilo and drac are dell (and hp, in that order)'s implementation of video and keyboard/mouse input/output over the network, so that you can manage every aspect of a machine over a network where the machine might not be in the same city you're in
[05:19] <kevdog> Xabster: I can't even get rsync to work reliably on my LAN with large data sets (>60gb)
[05:19] <Myrth> syn-ack: i have OCZ PCIe SSD which requires insmod ocz10xx.ko
[05:19] <Myrth> i'm able to access the drive from livecd after insmod
[05:19] <syn-ack> are you able to modprobe it?
[05:19] <bsidhipo> kevdog: uh i got the order reversed
[05:19] <Myrth> but on boot from SSD it's stuck in (initramfs)
[05:20] <syn-ack> ah
[05:20] <kevdog> bsidhipo: Sounds like a dream...if it works
[05:20] <Smith_> hi2all
[05:20] <syn-ack> Myrth, Look up the kernel compilation HOW TO in the Ubuntu forums. That'll help you get thru it
[05:20] <zeroblock> hihi
[05:21] <Myrth> newblikegra, syn-ack: thanks
[05:21] <Xabster> kevdog, :D if you pay for your own food you can have my couch and use my internet
[05:21] <Jordan_U> syn-ack: Myrth: You don't need (or want) to compile a kernel to solve this problem. All of the modules needed are already built for Ubuntu's kernel.
[05:22] <kevdog> Xabster: what a guy!  can you throw in a tutorial as well?
[05:22] <Jordan_U> Myrth: First you'll need to mount your Ubuntu partition, do you know how to do that?
[05:22] <Xabster> tutorial on my apartment?
[05:22] <syn-ack> Jordan_U, read what he said. He'll need to build the Ram disk to include the module so, yeah, he needs it
[05:22] <bsidhipo> myrth: install ubuntu.  edit /etc/modules, build initramfs and reboot.  live happily ever after.
[05:22] <syn-ack> it has nothing to do with the mount, jordan.
[05:22] <Xabster> kevdog, frontdoor open, couch is front-front-left
[05:22] <syn-ack> NO
[05:22] <Myrth> Jordan_U, yes. i mount it, and then i chroot and mount --bind dev and sys, to run grub-mkconfig
[05:22] <syn-ack> he needs to rebuild the ramdisk
[05:22] <bsidhipo> myrth: edit /etc/modules; update-initramfs -c -k all, reboot
[05:23] <Jordan_U> syn-ack: Building an initramfs is not in any way related to compiling a kernel.
[05:23] <syn-ack> Oh jesus christ.
[05:23] <syn-ack> YES IT IS
[05:23] <syn-ack> ugh, I can't handle this.
[05:23] <kevdog> Xabster: that's not exactly what I had in mind, but speaking of getting a "remote" "imaginary" view of your apartment -- Its becoming much clearer to me now
[05:23] <TheSarge> I am trying to enable other resolutions, but I see no Xorg.conf in /etc/X11/   ?
[05:23] <kevdog> TheSarge: You have to create one
[05:24] <Myrth> bsidhipo, that sounds good, thanks
[05:24] <Xabster> kevdog, 107m2 in 6 rooms (2 of which are bathroom and kitchen) - how's that for remote view?
[05:24] <TheSarge> kevdog: How? I never had to before.. dpkg-reconfigure doesnt do it
[05:24] <bsidhipo> syn-ack: well hopefully his SSD has enough bios hooks to get the initial bootloader going.  once the initial bootloader got going it should load the ramdisk (which now has the module he needs).  once that module is inserted into the kernel, the kernel should continue to boot fine without bios' further help
[05:24] <kevdog> TheSarge: Yep -- new versions of ubuntu -- this doesn't work anymore
[05:24] <bsidhipo> syn-ack: makes sense?
[05:25] <TheSarge> I just want to enable 1024x768
[05:25] <TheSarge> kevdog: So is there a script I can run or something?
[05:25] <Jordan_U> Myrth: Then chroot in bind mounting /dev/ /sys *and* /proc/. Then add "ocz10xx" to the end of /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and run "update-initramfs -c -k all" (within the chroot).
[05:25] <kevdog> Xabster: 107?  That's pretty large
[05:25] <Jordan_U> bsidhipo: syn-ack left.
[05:26] <bsidhipo> jordan: what a passionate dude ...
[05:26] <zeroblock> how to switch my input to scim?
[05:26] <Xabster> kevdog, for the price it certainly is - and i'm appreciating it =(
[05:26] <Xabster> =)*
[05:26] <kevdog> TheSarge: Nope -- You either have to find a base on the internet or use one of your old xorg files
[05:26] <bsidhipo> jordan: but yeah, you're on the right track with the chroot thing :-)  keep going
[05:26] <research4oscar> can anyone provide some good reference material on setting up a developer user group for web development on ubuntu?
[05:26] <TheSarge> olution?
[05:27] <TheSarge> kevdog: You are kidding me, I have to do all of that to enable a resolution?
[05:27] <sacarlson> research4oscar: how about github.com ?
[05:27] <TheSarge> That can't be right
[05:27] <bsidhipo> thesarge: xorg now uses automatic on the fly configuration.  no need for xorg.conf.
[05:27] <TheSarge> If so Ubuntu is going downhill, making things more difficult on the end user?
[05:27] <Myrth> Jordan_U: should i copy the module file somewhere on SSD?
[05:28] <research4oscar> github.com? I will check it out.
[05:28] <TheSarge> bsidhipo: So.. how do I enable other resolutions?
[05:28] <kevdog> TheSarge: That's what I had to do, that was the only thing that worked for me since my resolution wasn't be adjusted correctly
[05:28] <Myrth> Jordan_U: or update-initramfs will take care of it
[05:28] <Jordan_U> Myrth: No. You shouldn't need to do anything beyond what I have said.
[05:28] <Myrth> ok
[05:28] <bsidhipo> thesarge: once you log in to your DE, you can pick other resolutions.  or, you can use "xrandr" if your card supports randr extension.
[05:28] <sacarlson> research4oscar: if you don't want to use github.com dirrect I guess you could setup a git host of your own on ubuntu
[05:29] <bsidhipo> thesarge: is there something wrong with the default resolution that Xorg picks for you?
[05:29] <TheSarge> bsidhipo: The only resolution it has listed is 800x600 thats why I said enable more resolutions...
[05:29] <TheSarge> bsidhipo: Yes, it is 800x600!
[05:29] <bsidhipo> thesarge: read /var/log/X.0.log and see why it disgards the other resolutions
[05:29] <TheSarge> Omg..
[05:29] <Myrth> ok rebooting
[05:29] <research4oscar> sacarlson:I see what it is. I wil be looking at version control also. but what i meant was more of setting up my groups and users on my ubuntu installation.
[05:29] <TheSarge> I used to be able to just edit a conf and uncomment the resolutions
[05:30] <TheSarge> WHy are they making this distro so much worse?
[05:30] <Myrth> btw do i have to sync && sync before reboot?
[05:30] <bsidhipo> thesarge: your whininess is several years too late.  it's been this way for many years now.
[05:30] <Jordan_U> Myrth: No.
[05:30] <curiousx> TheSarge: what graphic card do you have?
[05:30] <TheSarge> Just shows where this distro is going
[05:30] <Jordan_U> !ot | TheSarge
[05:30] <bsidhipo> thesarge: it's not the distro.  it's Xorg
[05:30] <TheSarge> curiousx: I don't its a server, I am using VNC
[05:31] <curiousx> ok
[05:31] <TheSarge> bsidhipo: The distro chose to take the new version..
[05:31] <sacarlson> research4oscar: you just setup users and groups in git  here are some web interfaces http://stackoverflow.com/questions/438163/whats-the-best-web-interface-for-git-repositories
[05:31] <Jordan_U> TheSarge: This channel is for support questions, not for unproductive ranting. Please stay on topic.
[05:31] <TheSarge> I am on topic
[05:31] <Myrth> oh no.. it's (initramfs) again...
[05:32] <TheSarge> There is no way to easily enable other resolutions?
[05:32] <sacarlson> research4oscar: development without version control?
[05:32] <curiousx> so you wanna edit the TTY's resolution ?
[05:32] <TheSarge> I have to build an Xorg.conf from scratch?
[05:32] <Myrth> in the boot console it says /dev/disk/by-uuid/e46..... does not exist. dropping to a shell!
[05:32] <TheSarge> curiousx: No.. I want to edit the Xservers resolution
[05:32] <Myrth> jordan_u: i've re-run grub-mkconfig
[05:32] <Jordan_U> TheSarge: What graphics card do you have? Missing resoltuions usually means that you don't have a proper driver for your card.
[05:32] <TheSarge> I told you I am running an Xserver and using VNC
[05:33] <sacarlson> research4oscar: I guess that would work as long as each user was working on only his own apps
[05:33] <curiousx> sry
[05:33] <TheSarge> Jordan_U: I already said it is a server, I have no graphics card.. I am using vnc to connect to ity
[05:33] <Myrth> jordan_u: and re-enabled uuids
[05:33] <TheSarge> it
[05:33] <Jordan_U> Myrth: Can you mount your Ubuntu partition and pastebin the current contents of /etc/initramfs-tools/modules ?
[05:34] <Jordan_U> TheSarge: Sorry, missed that. I can't help you then.
[05:34] <bsidhipo> thesarge: vncserver has option on command line for you to specify resolutions ... erm
[05:34] <Myrth> it had everything commented out, so i've added ocz10xx and uncommented raid1 because i want to use raid1 later
[05:34] <research4oscar> sacarlson: Some of the reading I've done, they talk about creating a group and assigning them to the var/www folder.  Then added users to that group.
[05:34] <Myrth> jordan_u: ^^^
[05:34] <TheSarge> bsidhipo: I can't even launch my vnc viewer from command line
[05:34] <TheSarge> bsidhipo: How will that work if the Xorg server is already running in 800x600 anyways?
[05:35] <bsidhipo> thesarge: i think you are confused
[05:35] <Jordan_U> Myrth: Please for now at least don't do anything other than what I ask you to. You shouldn't need to uncomment anything else as if you start using raid1 update-initramfs will detect that and do anything needed.
[05:35] <Myrth> jordan_u: can i mount stuff from initramfs busybox?
[05:35] <TheSarge> bsidhipo: You are telling me VNC can change what resolution X11 server is running in?
[05:35] <kevdog> What X server?
[05:35] <Myrth> ok, sorry, removing
[05:35] <research4oscar> sacarlson: but I haven't actually found full instructions on how to do that exactly.
[05:36] <sacarlson> research4oscar: sure you can do that were a group of users all have rights to change in /var/www ;  you can just make it so that the default user add makes that the case
[05:36] <Jordan_U> Myrth: Sorry, I need to leave for about an hour.
[05:36] <TheSarge> kevdog: The one running on my shell?
[05:36] <bsidhipo> thesarge: take a break and read the manpages for vncserver :-)  it will become clear
[05:36] <kevdog> whats the remote client?
[05:36] <kevdog> linux?
[05:36] <Myrth> jordan_u: ok thanks
[05:36] <Jordan_U> Myrth: You're welcome.
[05:36] <TheSarge> bsidhipo: I have, VNC server can only work with what Xorg has configured.
[05:37] <bsidhipo> thesarge: "vncserver -geometry 4096x4096"
[05:37] <TheSarge> Xorg creates the display not VNC
[05:37] <sacarlson> research4oscar: I guess depending on the number of users to add would change the methods needed as manual adding users with users group gui is not hard in numbers of say 10 - 20 users
[05:38] <benwalburn> my computer doesn't have bluetooth, so would it help my preformance/startup if I removed the bluetooth related files from /etc/xdg/autostart?
[05:38] <sacarlson> research4oscar: it's just a mater of checking the box in each user to add to www-data group
[05:40] <bsidhipo> silence all of a sudden
[05:40] <benwalburn> that happens a lot when I ask a question here
[05:40] <kevdog> I can post my xorg if you want?
[05:40] <bsidhipo> kevdog: shhhhhh, it's vnc.  it's not "real X"
[05:40] <TheSarge> bsidhipo: man x11vnc says geometry is the same as scale.. and scale just stretches the framebuffer.
[05:41] <TheSarge> bsidhipo: I need to change the resolution
[05:42] <bsidhipo> kevdog: i *think* he's talking about the virtual resolution on the vnc server side ... unless he's talking about the client side, which he hasn't made clear ... i'm assuming he meant the server side (which is headless)
[05:42] <TheSarge> bsidhipo: I am talking about the resolution theat Xserver is running in...
[05:43] <sacarlson> research4oscar: the install of apache2 has already created the group for you,  all you need in this case is to add each user member you wish to the group www-data
[05:43] <bsidhipo> thesarge: you mean the VNC server right?  let's agree on some terminology first.  i assume you have two machines, right?  a, and b.  a is the server (headless, no graphics card).  b is the client where you interact with, has video, display, keyboard, and mouse, right?
[05:44] <kukuruza> can someone tell me how to brouse a ext4 formatted partition trough windows?
[05:44] <TheSarge> bsidhipo: No I dont mean the VNC server.. I mean the Xserver. Yes I have a headless server I am SSHing into
[05:45] <sacarlson> kukuruza: there are 3rd party software that can mount ext4 partitions in windows,  google it
[05:45] <bsidhipo> thesarge: alright.  so whose resolution are you complaining about?  a's, or b's?  the headless server's resolution?  or the client's resolution?
[05:45] <TheSarge> bsidhipo: Obviously the Servers..
[05:45] <bsidhipo> thesarge: so the headless server runs some kind of "vnc server" software, right?
[05:45] <ubuxubu> weird, it never asked me to make a swap part the when i finally fixed it
[05:45] <TheSarge> bsidhipo: VNC just captures what X11 outputs.. so to change the resolution you change it in X11
[05:46] <Myrth> jordan_U: whenever you're here.. it didn't help. only ocz10xx is in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules, still drops into shell
[05:46] <ubuxubu> wonder wut i have for a swap??
[05:46] <TheSarge> bsidhipo: Yes, its running an XServer and a VNC server
[05:46] <bsidhipo> thesarge: what software are you using for the vnc server?  name, please?
[05:46] <Myrth> jordan_u: cat /proc/modules doesn't show ocz10xx, it should, right?
[05:46] <TheSarge> bsidhipo: The issue is the Xserver is running at 800x600
[05:46] <ubuxubu> unless it recalled on its own the swap i had made for it before
[05:46] <TheSarge> bsidhipo: x11vnc
[05:47] <bsidhipo> thesarge: now we're getting somewhere
[05:47] <TheSarge> bsidhipo: I already read the documentation... The scale option doesnt change the resolution it can only stretch it, you have to change X11 resolution.
[05:49] <bsidhipo> thesarge: x11vnc appears to grabs the bitmaps of a running X server.  in order for that to happen you would have to have a functioning card of some sort (you may say headless but it's actually driving a card, perhaps with no monitor, that's why it's limited to such a low resolution because there's no DDC communication)
[05:50] <editor> hallo
[05:50] <bsidhipo> thesarge: the easiest solution is to not run an actual X server (there's no need for you to drive an actual display).  i really suggest you run xvfb if you MUST run x11vnc.  or, best to go with "vncserver" (which implements its own X server inside)
[05:50] <TheSarge> bsidhipo: Trust me, it has no videocard. I told you already that it captures from Xserver. Like 15 times
[05:50] <bsidhipo> thesarge: it must have some sort of onboard card for X to even start in that configuration ... unless X is somehow smart enough to choose xvfb which i kinda doubt
[05:51] <TheSarge> bsidhipo: It has no videocard. It is right next to me.
[05:51] <TheSarge> no onboard, no PCI, no AGP..
[05:51] <bsidhipo> thesarge: with xvfb, you can configure the resolution on the command line, then you can point x11vnc to that virtualized framebuffer server
[05:52] <TheSarge> bsidhipo: Okay, thx
[05:52] <bsidhipo> thesarge: show me /var/log/X.0.log and humor me :-)
[05:54] <phpN00b> is it possible to have a bigger scrollbar? right now it is very narrow. I prefer the old style
[05:59] <wollw> Hello, I
[05:59] <TheSarge> bsidhipo: What is a clean way to remove xserver now? Cause apt-get remove x11-comon failed :(
[05:59] <wollw> well, that wasn't meant to happen
[05:59]  * wollw finishes typing message.
[06:00] <Myrth> are there any reasons against lvm on boot ssd?
[06:01] <sacarlson> Myrth: not that I know of but you might need the alternate ubuntu install iso that supports lvm to install it
[06:01] <Myrth> sacarlson, this page is fine with livecd: http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-install-ubuntu-over-lvm-filesystem
[06:02] <TheSarge> bsidhipo: This is perfect, I tried X11 Forwarding over ssh, I tried that Xserver fiasco.. This is very fast... PErfect. Ty so much.
[06:03] <bsidhipo> thesarge: no prob
[06:03] <sacarlson> Myrth: is shows in that link you gave me Unfortunately, at the time this article was written, Ubuntu does not offer such settings with the Desktop Install CD.
[06:03] <Jon--> After enabled compiz, any <Super> bind I set up with xbindkeys is not working. How can I fix this? Ubnutu 11.10. I don't appear to have anything bound to <Super> using ccsm advanced search. Using gnome-classic interface.
[06:04] <Jon--> ^ been trying for a few days and I help out in here a decent amount. Any ideas guys?
[06:04] <Myrth> sacarlson: which settings? i can do `apt-get install lvm2`
[06:05] <sacarlson> Myrth: it has to do with what's missing in initrz  I think
[06:05] <Myrth> oh.. i've tried to install from NetInstall edition, but then i didn't find how to load SSD module
[06:06] <bsidhipo> thesarge: is the server an intel core i5 by any chance?
[06:06] <sacarlson> Myrth: I'm sure you can make a custom cd with the added modules but I think the alternate iso might already have them
[06:07] <Myrth> ok i'll try thanks
[06:08] <nullcall> hi i made mistake in ubuntu i want to remove my ftp server n i made "sudo apt-get remove ftp*" ?????  plz help me wt should i do ???
[06:09] <scrachie> fuck linux windows rlz!
[06:09] <bsidhipo> scrachie: your mom must be proud
[06:09] <TheSarge> bsidhipo: No its a Rackmount Blade
[06:09] <scrachie> !ops | attention!
[06:09] <nullcall> sacarlson: hi
[06:10] <nullcall> hi i made mistake in ubuntu i want to remove my ftp server n i made "sudo apt-get remove ftp*" ?????  plz help me wt should i do ???
[06:10] <TheSarge> nullcall: No need to repeat
[06:10] <bsidhipo> nullcall: what's the name of the package you want to remove?  if you don't remember, "dpkg --get-selections | grep ftp"
[06:11] <tensorpudding> you sure seem to be jumping around channels to get help, TheSarge
[06:13] <nullcall> bsidhipo: now my system is starting in only CUI mode n i dont know wt i do to fix it
[06:13] <TheSarge> bsidhipo: I bet it thinks it has a videocard because its a vm?
[06:13] <bsidhipo> nullcall: what does that have to do with ftp (or dpkg --get-selections) ?  am confused
[06:14] <TheSarge> bsidhipo: He is trying to remove his ftpd package and reinstall it.
[06:14] <bsidhipo> thesarge: if it's a vm, yeah :-)  that's probably why it was slow before.  because all the reads and writes have to be emulated
[06:14] <nullcall> bsidhipo: my firefox and many more application removed due to this command line
[06:14] <TheSarge> bsidhipo: Its not a slow vm lol.
[06:14] <bsidhipo> thesarge: which is why xvfb would be a lot faster since it's all software framebuffer, no driving hardware involved
[06:14] <arinov> how to change repository from http to ftp?
[06:14] <nullcall> bsidhipo: i want to remove my ftpd
[06:15] <TheSarge> bsidhipo: Oh I didnt go with xvfb, I went with vncserver
[06:15] <bsidhipo> nullcall: what command line?
[06:15] <nullcall> bsidhipo: and gadmin-ftp
[06:15] <nullcall> bsidhipo : i made "sudo apt-get remove ftp*"
[06:15] <bsidhipo> thesarge: yeah, same thing :-)  vncserver implements a virtual framebuffer internally.  the reason vncserver is so big is because it is entire X server inside ;-)
[06:16] <bsidhipo> nullcall: i don't know if that should have even worked :-)  ok, let's say it did, how many package did it remove?  a lot?  a few?  what?
[06:17] <nullcall> bsidhipo: a lot with garaphic n firefox also
[06:17] <TheSarge> bsidhipo: I still have all the Xserver junk taking up space on my box and apt-get remove x11-common fails for some reason?
[06:17] <bsidhipo> thesarge: because of dependencies.  use graphical tool or remove the virtual package
[06:17] <nullcall> bsidhipo: might be apt-get also
[06:18] <bsidhipo> thesarge: there's a virtual package that depends on all X server variants
[06:18] <TheSarge> bsidhipo: remove the virtual package?
[06:18] <bsidhipo> thesarge: i forget what the name is ... maybe someone will chime in
[06:18] <TheSarge> bsidhipo: I am lost lol, do you kne c++?
[06:18] <TheSarge> know
[06:19] <bsidhipo> i dislike c++ ... much rather use c, or objective-c
[06:19] <bsidhipo> (or smalltalk)
[06:19] <shakeel391> hi i am new to irc
[06:20] <bsidhipo> oh it's a joke ... haha, it's late :-p  i should go to bed
[06:22] <nullcall> bsidhipo: now i got cui ut i cant start GUI its asking for low graphich
[06:26] <TheSarge> Whats the beginning C++ channel called?
[06:27] <nullcall> TheSarge: do you want to learn c++
[06:27] <TheSarge> nullcall: I am learning C++
[06:28] <TheSarge> I am doing while loops right now
[06:28] <nullcall> TheSarge: ok how may i help you
[06:28] <TheSarge> nullcall: isn't it off topic here?
[06:28] <nullcall> TheSarge: yes try to find for you plz wait
[06:30] <TheSarge> nullcall: I'd ask in #C++ but they banned me for being so noob
[06:30] <marcules> wat
[06:30] <marcules> How unfriendly
[06:30] <nullcall> TheSarge: join #c++
[06:30] <TheSarge> I know bazhang is in here, he hates me. So I have to be good ;)
[06:30] <TheSarge> nullcall: I'm banned there, they don't like newbs
[06:30] <TheSarge> There is a beginners channel
[06:31] <TheSarge> Something like #C++-basic
[06:31] <TheSarge> but thats not it
[06:31] <mohammadtiti> hi guys....i have a ubuntu which is installed alongside windows 7....my win7 doesn't boot and it gives me this error: BOOTMGR is missing....what can i do to have them both running along each other?????
[06:32] <marcules> reinstall grub and use less question marks
[06:32] <hubsinger> i'm running a german 10.04lts and when selecting "open with / other application" in nautilus some of the entries are doubled or tripled - any idea how to clear that up ?
[06:35] <nullcall> TheSarge: see this link http://www.cplusplus.com/forum/general/
[06:35] <nullcall> TheSarge : the my be help you too much after that you can join #c++
[06:38] <TheSarge> nullcall: Im banned in #C++ but I found the channel its #C++-Basic
[06:39] <dr--willis> banned.. or just need to register your nick...
[06:39] <iqbalhere4u> Hi All..
[06:39] <iqbalhere4u> Any option to check all the available channels?
[06:40] <dr--willis> !alis
[06:40] <iqbalhere4u> !alis
[06:40] <mohammadtiti> hi guys....i have a ubuntu which is installed alongside windows 7....my win7 doesn't boot and it gives me this error: BOOTMGR is missing....what can i do to have them both running along each other?????
[06:41] <dr--willis> no one ever reads what the bot says....
[06:41] <dr--willis> mohammadtiti:  how did you install ubuntu? via wubi? or booted the cd../
[06:42] <Myrth> sacarlson: alternate iso doesn't have driver for my ssd. is there a way to add?
[06:42] <mohammadtiti> dr--willis: i booted the cd
[06:43] <dr--willis> mohammadtiti:  so you have a grub menu and windows from grub fails to boot?
[06:43] <iqbalhere4u> Can any one please tell me which is the best channel for java ?
[06:44] <bazhang> iqbalhere4u, ##java
[06:44] <mohammadtiti> no...the grub is ok...it shows the win7 option but whenever i want to boot the windows instead of booting it, that error comes
[06:45] <iqbalhere4u> Thank you @bazhang
[06:45] <m4rcel> hello, transmission wont start minimized, i added -m or --minimized at the end of my command and it won't show transmission in system tray
[06:45] <m4rcel> any idea why?
[06:45] <Jordan_U> mohammadtiti: Try asking in ##windows
[06:46] <dr--willis> mohammadtiti:  could be its booting the wrong windows partitio also. or the windows bootloader needs to be reinstalled. tthen you may need to restore grub
[06:46] <iqbalhere4u> Hey @bazhang.. I am not able to join that channel
[06:46] <dr--willis> iqbalhere4u:  you registered your nick?
[06:46] <bazhang> !register | iqbalhere4u
[06:47] <bazhang> iqbalhere4u, /join #freenode for that
[06:47] <Jordan_U> Myrth: Yes, /proc/modules should include ocz10xx.
[06:47] <mohammadtiti> dr--willis: i know that....the windows bootloader needs to be reinstalled, you're 100% right....but how can i restore grub? i don't know this one....
[06:47] <mohammadtiti> actually how can i make a backup copy from it????
[06:47] <Jordan_U> mohammadtiti: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#ChRoot
[06:48] <Myrth> Jordan_U: hi, i'm trying to reinstall from alternate iso from scratch
[06:48] <dr--willis> !fixgrub
[06:49] <Myrth> so right now i'm in language selection. opening new console, insmod ocz10xx.ko, continuing with wizard?
[06:49] <iqbalhere4u> @ubottu, means I must register to join the channel ?
[06:50] <bazhang> iqbalhere4u, ask in #freenode  NOT here as I said
[06:51] <fidel> hi
[06:51] <thetinyjesus> does ubuntu run faster/smoother than linux mint?
[06:53] <Jordan_U> thetinyjesus: It depends on your hardware. Applications will generally perform the same, but they use different window managers and especially compositing window managers are sometimes stronger with some graphics cards / drivers than others so it could go either way.
[06:54] <marcules> Isn't compiz disabled by default in mint?
[06:54] <Jordan_U> thetinyjesus: That is, if you stick to the default window managers of compiz in Ubuntu and (I believe, you'd have to confirm in their support channel) mutter for linux mint.
[06:57] <goddard> is there a surefire way to convert videos for android?
[06:57] <tomsawyertokes> im a stoned ass nigger
[06:57] <goddard> !racism
[06:58] <tomsawyertokes> ?
[06:58] <zandt> hi all... so I downloaded boot-repair liveusb because I boinked grub. ran boot-repair, didn't work, then I discovered the hdd with ubuntu etc on it wasn't mounted. so I'm trying to mount /dev/sda, but I get a 'can't find /dev/sda in /etc/fstab' error
[06:58] <dr--willis> goddard:  surefire? theres many ways.. and with the right players. my android devices can play most anything i throw at them
[06:58] <dr--willis> goddard:  winff, arista,  mencoder, ffmpeg...
[06:59] <zandt> I'm a little zoned out frlom trying to work diff solutions to fix grub, so I'm not sure where to proceed :|
[06:59] <dr--willis> zandt:  you want to mout sda1 most likely not sda
[07:00] <Myrth> Jordan_U: can i PM please?
[07:00] <zandt> same error dr--willis
[07:00] <Jordan_U> Myrth: Sure, but I'd prefer to keep support discussion in-channel.
[07:00] <Myrth> it just gets very all over the place..
[07:01] <dr--willis> zandt:  details..... are helpfull
[07:01] <eliezer> i need to edit a line in order to dim my backlight,,i can remember how i did las time :(
[07:01] <Jordan_U> Myrth: If you run "/lastlog Myrth" in most clients it will show all of the lines which have been sent by or to you.
[07:01] <zandt> dr--willis, using boot-repair liveUSB (grub isn't showing up) to repair grub. it scans and is only seeing the USB it's on
[07:02] <zandt> I'm guessing (and I'm not entirely sure, because the instructions I've read never mentioned needing to manually mount) that if I mount sda(or 5) boot-repair would then see where to restore grub to
[07:03] <dr--willis> zandt:  mount /dev/sda5      needs more options[. or a fstab entry
[07:04] <dr--willis> !mount
[07:04] <Jordan_U> zandt: I would recommend against using boot-repair personally. I'm not aware of any issues with it but I think it's better to know and be able to document what is being done.
[07:05] <eliezer> i cant dim the light is there a fix for this ?
[07:05] <zandt> Jordan_U, what would you suggest? I'm pulling my hair out
[07:05] <sharpspear> hello. I was trying to install mysql trough the software center, but the installation stopped saying "applying changes". how can i cancel it and try again?
[07:05] <zandt> dr--willis,  sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt doesn't work, ethier. 'special device does not exist'
[07:06] <dr--willis> zandt:  does sudo fdisk -l   show any sda?
[07:06] <zandt> dr--willis,  yeah, 1 through 6
[07:07] <Jordan_U> zandt: What problem are you having with grub?
[07:07] <zandt> jordan, I think when I installed Plop boot manager (to boot from UBS, my bios doesn't support it) I overwrote the mbr
[07:07] <zandt> so grub isn't showing up on boot
[07:08] <zandt> I'm using a liveusb right now
[07:08] <zandt> *USB
[07:09] <Jordan_U> zandt: Please pastebin the output of "sudo blkid".
[07:09] <zandt> okay, one moment
[07:10] <sacarlson> Myrth: I wonder if that method I see in your link http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-install-ubuntu-over-lvm-filesystem  where they chroot after boot would enable you to add your ssd driver?
[07:10] <zandt> Jordan_U, http://pastebin.com/4RxvNYdg
[07:12] <massacre> hello
[07:13] <massacre> can any one tell em how to add lan connection in ubuntu
[07:13] <almoxarife> http://sourceforge.net/p/boot-repair/home/Home/   <---- that is the simplest method to restore grub/mbr anywhere
[07:14] <Myrth> sacarlson: at this point i think i need to know where to copy the module file so it will be included into initramfs when i run update-iniramfs
[07:14] <Marzata> massacre: use the network applet?
[07:14] <massacre>    its not working
[07:16] <massacre> any answer?
[07:16] <SpiceMan> I upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04. now all the man pages are gone. any easy way to install man pages for everything instead of installing them one by one. and why the hell did it get rid of the man pages in the first place?
[07:17] <hubsinger> massacre: what's the problem with the network applet ?
[07:17] <massacre> am not getting my lan connection option
[07:19] <hubsinger> massacre: do you want to configure an additional physical lan, or specify different ip settings
[07:19] <zandt> brb
[07:19] <Dildeaux> chimpout
[07:19] <Dildeaux> .com
[07:19] <Dildeaux>  /forum
[07:19] <Dildeaux> is the place to be
[07:19] <FloodBot1> Dildeaux: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:19] <Dildeaux> to learn about the facts
[07:19] <Dildeaux> about Trayvon Martin
[07:19] <massacre> no i don't want any physical lan
[07:19] <sacarlson> Myrth: that makes sense.  In my searches I don't see anyone speak of adding drivers to use ssd as boot
[07:20] <Dildeaux> Trayvon Martin has me upset
[07:20] <hubsinger> massacre: so you want for example different ip settings for home / office
[07:20] <Dildeaux> I have poured out my heart on this website
[07:20] <Dildeaux> chimpout
[07:20] <Dildeaux> .com
[07:20] <FloodBot1> Dildeaux: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:22] <zandt> back
[07:22] <ubuxubu> problem solved
[07:23] <ejv> im horrified sites like that exist, let alone have members, *sigh*
[07:23] <zandt> Jordan_U, I should add.... I'm using a boot loader to boot from USB because my bios doesn't support it & the cd drive on this machine doesn't work... so if I boink grub up more :| lol
[07:23] <ejv> thx for acting so swiftly Jordan_U !
[07:23] <zandt> ejv, agreed
[07:23] <SpiceMan> ok. now one knows, should've known better
[07:24] <Jordan_U> ejv: You're welcome, but in the future please simply ignore such spam. If you feed the trolls it will just encourage them to come back.
[07:25] <sharpspear> hello. I was trying to install mysql trough the software center, but the installation stopped saying "applying changes". how can i cancel it and try again?
[07:26] <NFisher> Hi all! im using Ubuntu 10.04 and have 4 Workspaces which i use. Now im wondering if there is a possibility to ged rid of the gnome-panels in Workspaces 2-4 since i dont need them there and would much appreciate the space they need?
[07:26] <sacarlson> Myrth: I still don't have enuf info I guess your ssd is a scsi device so the driver isn't embedded in the kernel or initz file what is the name of your scsi controler?
[07:27] <Myrth> sacarlson, the driver is downloaded from here: http://oczenterprise.com/drivers.html
[07:27] <Myrth> it's PCIe SAS SSD
[07:32] <zandt> crashed :|
[07:33] <sacarlson> Myrth: worst case you could compile a new kernel with the driver added and boot install live cd chroot and install your needed kernel mods
[07:34] <Myrth> in ##linux they told me to just copy ko file into kernel drivers folder
[07:34] <Myrth> and depmod -a
[07:34] <zandt> Jordan_U, no idea what I'm doing now. I was going to try to follow grub-install instructions @ first, but it's not in debians repos I guess. + can't even mount heh
[07:34] <Myrth> depmod -n shows that it was registered
[07:35] <sacarlson> Myrth: I've seen onother link that tried that and failed as the modules need to be compiled and linked on the same kernel, but if you compile the same kernel as will be installed with livecd that would also work
[07:35] <Myrth> sacarlson, there's no source for the module. only compiled binary
[07:35] <Jordan_U> zandt: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l"?
[07:36] <zandt> sure, one second :|
[07:36] <sacarlson> Myrth: oh ok then I guess that's how it's done then
[07:37] <zandt> Jordan_U, http://pastebin.com/Ay2wnSeb
[07:37] <sacarlson> Myrth: my guess is there ko file will only work on a group of kernel not all
[07:37] <Myrth> sacarlson, yep, it works only up until 3.0, doesn't work with 3.2
[07:37] <Myrth> so i couldn't use precise
[07:38] <sacarlson> Myrth: oh so no 11.10 eather then I guess since I have Linux sacarlson-11 3.0.0-12-generic #20-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 7 14:50:42 UTC 2011 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux
[07:38] <sacarlson> as default install from ubuntu 11.10
[07:38] <Myrth> sacarlson, it loaded and worked fine on 11.10
[07:38] <Myrth> i think 3.0 didn't have much difference from 2.6
[07:39] <Myrth> it was just number bump
[07:39] <sacarlson> Myrth: ok cool
[07:39] <Myrth> now i'm fighting to mount lvm module...
[07:40] <Myrth> because i've decided to go with it... how to mount lvm from alternate livecd? i have lvm commands already loaded, but mount doesn't want to work...
[07:40] <HeliusCron> needs some help puting ubuntu on a usb stick
[07:40] <Myrth> HeliusCron, unetbootin ?
[07:40] <zandt> HeliusCron, yeah, unetbootin. or universal-usb-creator if you're in windows
[07:41] <HeliusCron> i ran the pendrive util  to put 11.10 onto a thumb drive,  it looks like it completed fine but now my PC doesnt see it as a bootable device anymore.
[07:41] <HeliusCron> version 10 was fine same device
[07:41] <Myrth> sacarlson, oh nm, mounted to /dev/mapper/...
[07:42] <sacarlson> myrth: well if you can't figure out the alternate livecd I guess you could also try your link method that might work but I've never done it that way,  also been some time since I've used lvm at all
[07:42] <HeliusCron> Universal-USB-Installer-1.8.8.9
[07:42] <zandt> HeliusCron, try doing it over. not sure :| but I have had problems with sandisk usb's. I had one for a few months, worked fine, but then it wouldn't boot from it
[07:43] <HeliusCron> worked fine till i reformatted it just now and put 11.10 on it
[07:44] <zandt> I would format it and try usb-creator again. also before that you might want to verify that .iso isn't corrupted or something
[07:44] <HeliusCron> I'm running the util again
[07:44] <HeliusCron> files all show up in windows ok
[07:44] <Jordan_U> zandt: It's very odd to me that fdisk -l is listing more partitons than blkid. My guess would be that there is something wrong witht he filesytems on these partitions. So while it may seem redundant, could you also pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l"?
[07:44] <zandt> Jordan_U, sure
[07:46] <zandt> Jordan_U, http://pastebin.com/9YACFngW
[07:48] <Jordan_U> zandt: OK. There is clearly something wrong with the partition table of /dev/sda.
[07:48] <zandt> :| that doesn't sound good
[07:49] <HeliusCron> still can't boot to the device, wtf
[07:49] <HeliusCron> was just working
[07:49] <Jordan_U> zandt: If the drive supports SMART diagnostics I would recommend checking them (this can be done via "Disk Utility" or the smartctl command).
[07:50] <Jordan_U> zandt: If that shows no hardware problems, I would then (and only then) move on to fixparts to see if it can tell what is wrong and fix it.
[07:51] <faryshta> is there a way to start flash by console?
[07:51] <anthropos> what kind of drive is it
[07:51] <faryshta> anthropos, macromedia flash :P
[07:51] <anthropos> sorry, I was speaking to zandt
[07:51] <zandt> Jordan_U, alright thanks.
[07:52] <zandt> anthropos, not really sure, it's from '98 though, so whatever was being used around that time
[07:52] <anthropos> ah
[07:52] <HeliusCron> guess i'll try the 64 bit iso?
[07:52] <HeliusCron> thumbdrive still wont boot
[07:53] <nullcall> is there any GUI tool to configure OpenSSH like Gadmin
[07:53] <anthropos> you should check the stuff SMART logs by default, then try a short scan followed by a long scan (a surface scan). that's what I'd do, anyways.
[07:53] <anthropos> sometimes the stuff SMART logs can be difficult to interpret though
[07:53] <HeliusCron> or put 10.04 back maybe its a bug with 11.10
[07:53] <Jordan_U> zandt: You're welcome.
[07:54] <anthropos> I have a drive that has a nonzero number of remapped sectors, which concerns me, but it's below the threshold set by the manufacturer so the SMART check deems it a pass
[07:55] <Myrth> YAY it worked!
[07:55] <faryshta> Is there a way to start flash using the console?
[07:55] <zandt> anthropos, I'll give it a try. I dunno. doesn't sound good
[07:55] <Myrth> yee haa!!! ok day not wasted for nothing
[07:55] <anthropos> zandt, did you back up your data?
[07:56] <zandt> anthropos, nope :(
[07:56] <anthropos> some of the drive manufacturers will do data recovery stuff, if it's really messed up
[07:56] <sacarlson> myrth: cool, see if you don't give up you can't fail
[07:57] <zandt> if worse comes to worse, I'd be okay with just doing a clean install. if that's even possible :|
[07:57] <Jordan_U> zandt: OK, so to get this straight, this is a very old drive with data you don't have backed up and the drive potentially has hardware issues (but that's not known yet). Correct?"
[07:57] <anthropos> do you have the SMART stuff open?
[07:57] <zandt> Jordan_U, correct
[07:57] <anthropos> he probably realizes it was a bad idea, at this point :)
[07:57] <zandt> anthropos, installing it, it didn't come on the liveusb I'm using
[07:57] <Jordan_U> zandt: Do you have a larger drive which you can trust more than this one?
[07:58] <zandt> I'm not TERRIBLY worried about losing data. I just wanted to get back into ubuntu
[07:58] <zandt> Jordan_U, nope
[07:59] <zandt> trying to get smartctl up and running. command not found, lemme google
[07:59] <anthropos> you will probably prefer using the disk utility
[08:00] <anthropos> or gsmartmon
[08:00] <Jordan_U> zandt: sudo apt-get install smartmon-tools
[08:00] <zandt> I'm not sure that's on here. I did install gsmartmon though
[08:00] <zandt> (I'm using debian repos, by the way. the boot-repair USB is based off debian AFAIK)
[08:01] <zandt> oh no heh "Failed to execute child process "smartctl" (No such file or directory)"
[08:02] <anthropos> i'm just curious, how big is the drive from '98 and what interface does it use?
[08:02] <zandt> off the top of my head I'd say it's around 30gigs. no idea what interface. I know absolutely zero about hardware (even mine)
[08:03] <faryshta> Is there a way to start flash using the console?
[08:04] <webnet> Anyone know how to make my panel setings and theme system wide?
[08:04] <webnet> tried googling it and couldnt seem to find an answwer
[08:05] <zandt> I installed smartmontools (I googled it, that's supposedly the package in debian), gsmartcontrol isn't picking up smartctl though
[08:05] <zandt> and neither is the command line
[08:06] <IsUp> Good day, ive just installed Ubuntu 11.10 Server on virtual host. It's HDD is 10 GB, but i can only see 3.0GB for /dev/hda1, also 4.0GB is mounted on '/run/shm' Here is my output: http://pastebin.com/p0JqqkcG Any ideas?
[08:06] <lotuspsychje> !info smartmontools
[08:06] <sacarlson> zandt: in the ubuntu disk utility it has the smartclt results and test
[08:06] <zandt> sorry was googling how to use it :|
[08:07] <zandt> sacarlson, gsmartcontrol doesn't see smartclt and I don't see disk utility (it's boot-repair liveusb)
[08:07] <anthropos> IsUp /run/shm is a ramdisk, i think the 4G you are seeing is just the max size (probably half your memory or something)
[08:07] <anthropos> IsUp, you can't find the missing space in df -h ?
[08:07] <zandt> on the upside, sudo smartctl -i /dev/sda says it's smart enabled
[08:07] <zandt> so I suppose that's good
[08:07] <anthropos> nm, you pasted it.
[08:08] <IsUp> anthropos: i can find. if i calculate, its 10 GB in total. but why 3GB is allocated for '/'? Its too small actually
[08:08] <sacarlson> zandt: I would assume it would be a part of a standard desktop livecd,  I don't recall installing it so I assume it's just there
[08:08] <IsUp> anthropos: can i use /run/shm safely? or what should i do?
[08:08] <anthropos>  /run/shm should be a tmpfs filesystem or something like that, not a physical disk.
[08:09] <zandt> sacarlson, it's not in my menus. it's very bare bones.
[08:09] <IsUp> let me pastebin my fdisk output
[08:09] <li> hello
[08:09] <zandt> ok fixed gsmartcontrol :D
[08:09] <anthropos> what hypervisor are you using IsUp
[08:09] <IsUp> anthropos: it's Microsoft Hyper-V
[08:10] <IsUp> 'fdisk -l' output: http://pastebin.com/DLFx21mt
[08:10] <anthropos> ah, I know nothing about it
[08:10] <anthropos> are you sure it really made the hard disk as large as it claims it did
[08:11] <IsUp> anthropos: i think, yes
[08:11] <zandt> anthropos, should I run short/extended/or conveyance self-test? (gsmartcontrol) (am I even @ the right spot heh)
[08:11] <anthropos> your fdisk lists /dev/sda1, etc but I see only /dev/hda1 in the output of mount
[08:11] <anthropos> are both being run from the guest os?
[08:12] <anthropos> zandt, I would look at the SMART data that it saves automatically first, then do short, then do extended. but i'm not an expert at hard disk recovery or anything
[08:12] <hubsinger> hello - anybody knows of a working cd-printer/software combination for ubuntu ?
[08:12] <anthropos> most hdd manufacturers also offer bootable disks and/or utilities designed to check their drives, but mostj ust do the basic SMART stuff
[08:12] <zandt> anthropos, okay. *pretends to understand what he's reading*
[08:13] <anthropos> i think gsmartmon will make things red if it's supposed to be really alarming. I would look specifically to see if there are any reallocated sectors, zandt
[08:13] <IsUp> anthropos: ive setup only 1 disk in Hyper-V, 10 GB in total and that's all i know :p
[08:13] <anthropos> IsUp, I guess my question was sutpid, since your host OS is windows, these commands both must be run from the guest
[08:13] <lotuspsychje> hubsinger: hp tools exist for ubuntu
[08:14] <zandt> yeah I have an error log. I just have no idea what any of it means.
[08:14] <anthropos> IsUp, it looks like the same idsk is mapped to sda and hda
[08:14] <IsUp> anthropos: i am running all commands in ssh
[08:14] <anthropos> how big is hda2 if you mount it
[08:14] <wdawdawdaw2> If I'm hosting a single server what is the best way to remote monitor it? Zenoss? Nagios? Something else? What's the most secure choice.. I think exploits have popped up for both...?
[08:14] <Yup2> If I'm hosting a single server what is the best way to remote monitor it? Zenoss? Nagios? Something else? What's the most secure choice.. I think exploits have popped up for both...?
[08:15] <anthropos> nm, it's an extended partition and all that's in it is a swap partition
[08:15] <IsUp> Yup2: nagios
[08:15] <anthropos> IsUp, how much swap did you allocate
[08:15] <lotuspsychje> !ssh | Yup2
[08:15] <IsUp> anthropos: i didnt change partitions on setup. ive just selected "use all partitions" or something
[08:16] <zandt> brb
[08:16] <Yup2> you recommend using ssh over nagios?...
[08:16] <lotuspsychje> ssh over vnc tunnel
[08:16] <anthropos> IsUp, it may have made a ton of swap or something
[08:16] <lotuspsychje> !vnc
[08:17] <Yup2> yeah I know what vnc is :P
[08:17] <hubsinger> lotuspsychje: ok, but for the printing itself i'd use Glabels for example
[08:18] <IsUp> anthropos: should i format my disk again? my ram is 8GB btw
[08:18] <hubsinger> lotuspsychje: i do ask because some time ago i did that using a espon r285 with glabels it it was quite a hassle
[08:18] <zandt> back
[08:18] <lotuspsychje> hubsinger: does brasero not have a cd printing addon?
[08:19] <zandt> anthropos, Jordan_U, nothing is screaming @ me in the error log that it already has, but I can't make sense of it either. would it be okay I pasteb'd it ?
[08:20] <anthropos> IsUp, i think it made a massive swap partition
[08:20] <anthropos> 2x your memory, which the hypervisor probably allowed because i'ts doing thin provisioning
[08:20] <anthropos> zandt, yes please pastebin it
[08:20] <hubsinger> lotuspsychje: didn't find it in 10.04
[08:20] <anthropos> and start a short test
[08:21] <zandt> anthropos, http://pastebin.com/aCfA0vcn it's not terribly long. maybe it make sense to you
[08:21] <lotuspsychje> hubsinger: in extra/cd cover print
[08:21] <IsUp> anthropos: so what should i do now
[08:21] <Yup2> For a single server\admin is there a desktop application that can just ssh and grab apache\mysql data live?
[08:21] <Yup2> instead of installing anything on the server
[08:22] <lotuspsychje> !info koverartist
[08:22] <zandt> it does say PASS but it also went out of it's way on highlight to tell me that didn't mean everything was okay heh
[08:22] <hubsinger> lotuspsychje: yes but only for the cover - not the cd itself
[08:22] <lotuspsychje> oh right
[08:22] <lotuspsychje> lemme look
[08:22] <anthropos> zandt, there should also be a spreadsheet like summary, do you see it
[08:24] <Yup2> For a single server\admin is there a desktop application that can just ssh and grab apache\mysql data live? instead of installing anything on the server?
[08:24] <zandt> anthropos, yeah
[08:24] <anthropos> zandt, are any of the rows red, and are any sectors reallocated
[08:25] <Ben64> Yup2: should just use ssh
[08:25] <Yup2> gotcha
[08:25] <zandt> anthalamus, none are red, but sectors at LBA = stringofnumbers = differentstringofnumbers
[08:25] <Yup2> nothing is more secure than ssh right?
[08:25] <anthropos> zandt, there are defnitely some errors logged but it's hard to see if they are a catastrophe or not
[08:25] <zandt> anthropos*
[08:25] <anthropos> what is the raw value for the number of bad sectors
[08:26] <zandt> the string of numbers I'm talking about? or something else
[08:26] <Ben64> Yup2: well its the "secure shell"
[08:26] <Yup2> yeah telnet is crap right
[08:26] <anthropos> it can't be that huge. it should talk about how many sectors are remapped or reallcoated or something like that
[08:26] <anthropos> if this drive is modern enough to remap sectors
[08:26] <Ben64> telnet isn't really used anymore
[08:26] <anthropos> Yup2, always use ssh, never telnet
[08:27] <zandt> sectors at LBA = 0x08891fc2 = 143204290 (not even sure if this is what you mean)
[08:27] <Yup2> through ssh how do you recommend i view server traffic on the fly?
[08:27] <zandt> let me look some more
[08:27] <anthropos> can you take a screenshot zandt and imagebin it or something
[08:27] <Ben64> you could have a screen running all the time with bwm-ng or another program with bandwidth statistics
[08:27] <Yup2> thanks ill look into it
[08:27] <anthropos> it really depends what you mean by 'server traffic', yup2
[08:28] <Guest49795> 都是字母，不认识！
[08:28] <zandt> no graphics program on here. but I think I see what you're talking about
[08:28] <zandt> under attributes....... raw read error rate
[08:28] <zandt> raw value is 0
[08:29] <anthropos> thats something else
[08:29] <zandt> reallocation raw vlaue 0
[08:29] <anthropos> yes, that
[08:29] <anthropos> zero is what you want
[08:29] <lotuspsychje> !info kcdlabel
[08:29] <anthropos> did the short scan complete, zandt
[08:29] <zandt> let me do it :) I was looking @ the error log lol
[08:29] <zandt> shouldn't take long.
[08:29] <droid-0854> Yup2,  have you used ethetape?
[08:29] <DJones> !cn | Guest49795
[08:30] <anthropos> the short test takes about a minute on my drive, but it will only fail if your drive is REALLY messed up
[08:30] <droid-0854> *etherape
[08:30] <hubsinger> lotuspsychje: thx
[08:30] <Guest49795> 谢谢
[08:31] <oxidizer> hi
[08:31] <lotuspsychje> hubsinger: seems like libreoffice can print them too
[08:31] <waxstone> zh! | Guest49795,
[08:31] <almoxarife> !cn
[08:31] <zandt> anthropos, test result: completed without error.
[08:31] <anthropos> zandt, start the long one if you have about an hour to spare
[08:31] <zandt> alright
[08:36] <lotuspsychje> hubsinger: http://registry.gimp.org/node/132
[08:37] <hubsinger> lotuspsychje: many thx - i'll take a closer look
[08:40] <HeliusCron> can anyone help with ubuntu install issue
[08:41] <lotuspsychje> !ask | HeliusCron
[08:41] <HeliusCron> i installed 11.10 fron usb thumb drive with option to install along side Win7 ,  but after install and reboot only windows loads with no option to boot ubuntu
[08:42] <anthropos> there is an article on fixing grub, right?
[08:42] <lotuspsychje> HeluisCron: try holding shift while boot post, to load grub, if not loading somethings wrong
[08:42] <HeliusCron> its the 64 bit iso
[08:42] <lotuspsychje> !grub
[08:43] <lotuspsychje> hello scientes
[08:43] <HeliusCron> this machine has never had ubuntu on it before, this is first install
[08:44] <lotuspsychje> HeliusCron: try holding shift at boot, see what happens
[08:44] <HeliusCron> k
[08:44] <HeliusCron> brb
[08:49] <HeliusCron> mo luck man,  can i get those link for fix grub again
[08:49] <HeliusCron> no
[08:49] <HeliusCron> i see no option to load ubuntu at all even with holding shift key
[08:50] <HeliusCron> i do however see a new partition in my windows partitions
[08:50] <HeliusCron> on main drive
[08:50] <lotuspsychje> !fixgrub
[08:51] <HeliusCron> i installed windows months ago and ubuntu just now, i'm surprised i see no grub
[08:51] <Ubuntu-CD> cow eats me...
[08:51] <Yup2> if you restrict ssh to a single ip address it should be bulletproof right? or can someone spoof it some how from the outside?...
[08:52] <Mephisto__> hello everybody!
[08:53] <tryggvib> is it possible to zoom out a bit on what get's sent to an external display?
[08:53] <fat> Is there a forum for linux mint here?
[08:53] <DJones> !mint | fat
[08:53] <fat> ty
[08:54] <tryggvib> we can't move a projector and some of the display is getting cut, so we'd like to "zoom out" make the image we send out smaller
[08:54] <zandt> anthropos, apologies... liveusb crashed. need to reinstall gsmartcontrol. are you leaving ?
[08:54] <anthropos> it's not bulletproof yup2 but it's secure if you set up ssh securely
[08:54] <anthropos> i'll be here awhile zandt
[08:55] <DannyButterman> Hi there
[08:55] <zandt> okay
[08:55] <zandt> I'm gonna lay down and let this test go. be back in a few
[08:56] <anthropos> later
[08:56] <DannyButterman> Does someone know something about a bug where nautilus closes (crashes) upon renaming of one of its directories ?
[08:58] <anthropos> no, is it segfaulting
[09:00] <DannyButterman> anthropos : there is one segfault occurrence in syslog, but it's not matching the moment when I saw the nautilus window unexpectedly closing
[09:00] <anthropos> if you run nautilus from the console (in X) and reproduce the bug, do you see any errors
[09:01] <DannyButterman> anthropos : Mar 29 09:06:32 pc-atelier1 kernel: [ 9180.444363] nautilus[3679]: segfault at 40 ip 000000000048933e sp 00007fffb2a75a00 error 4 in nautilus[400000+1b9000]
[09:01] <anthropos> can you reproduce that now at the console?
[09:02] <DannyButterman> anthropos: no, it doesn't do it anymore, but it does very often
[09:02] <anthropos> did it make any core dumps
[09:02] <DannyButterman> anthropos : there's also this "Mar 29 10:34:48 pc-atelier1 kernel: [14476.253653] nautilus[4061] general protection ip:7fd397c0dbd8 sp:7fffac19f360 error:0 in libgobject-2.0.so.0.2600.1[7fd397be2000+49000]"
[09:06] <DannyButterman> anthropos: no core dumps that I'm aware of
[09:06] <Avorntur> hmm, my Xorg (on my desktop) is using 600 mb
[09:06] <Avorntur> that seems a bit much
[09:06] <anthropos> anything in /var/crash ?
[09:07] <anthropos> if not you probably don't have apport enabled
[09:07] <DannyButterman> anthropos : nothing either :s
[09:08] <anthropos> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Apport
[09:08] <anthropos> i would try enabling apport and try to catch the crash
[09:08] <anthropos> it will sit in the background and intercept any segfaults, etc.
[09:08] <heliuscron> seems grub somehow got put on my 3rd data drive, wtf
[09:09] <heliuscron> had to chose that drive ot boot first in bios
[09:09] <DannyButterman> anthropos: ok thanks, it's enabled now, looking forward to the next crash
[09:10] <heliuscron> can someone help me setup critical stuff run 1st update stuff on this new install?
[09:10] <webnet> Anyone know how to make my panel setings and theme system wide? i tried using gconf, but upon creating a new user, the new user had the default ubuntu theme and purple background. anyone have any ideas?
[09:11] <zandt> anthropos, completed without error..
[09:12] <anthropos> zandt, i suppose thats good but it doesn't nec. mean the drive is safe
[09:12] <heliuscron> i just need to run 1st tiem updates please
[09:12] <zandt> yeah... I dunno, I was just trying to mount my HDD/nix file system :(
[09:14] <zandt> anthropos, I think I'm going to call it a night and try to bug some more people tomorrow
[09:14] <zandt> I appreciate your help
[09:14] <morri> i just made an update and it updated flash too, but it doesnot seem to work now anymore
[09:15] <anthropos> zandt, sounds good. dont trust the drive with your data
[09:15] <anthropos> or any drive for that matter. but this one especially
[09:15] <zandt> haha
[09:15] <zandt> alright
[09:16] <zandt> take care :)
[09:16] <anthropos> you yoo
[09:16] <anthropos> *you too
[09:20] <Yup2> if you restrict ssh by ip address it should be nearly bulletproof right? or can someone spoof it some how from the outside?...
[09:21] <anthropos> even if you don't restrict ssh access by ip address, if you are hte only one who has a valid account on the computer and you pick good passwords or, ebtter yet, do not allow password authentication, then it'll be pretty secure
[09:21] <anthropos> but you can always undermine yourself by doing foolish things  regardless of those kinds of safety measures
[09:22] <Yup2> what if its a 1000 character password :P
[09:22] <Ben64> key based auth is awesome
[09:22] <Yup2> lol
[09:22]  * Yup2 does the dr evil thing
[09:23] <Ben64> set it up once, don't have to type passwords to login
[09:23] <Yup2> sounds easier
[09:23] <anthropos> yes, just don't let your key get stolen
[09:24] <Ben64> if someone gets physical access to your computer, then you're screwed either way
[09:24] <heliuscron> anthropos u still offering some support ?
[09:24] <anthropos> i just answer the questions I know
[09:24] <anthropos> if you asked and I didn't answer it's probably because I didn't know or it was too vague
[09:25] <heliuscron> what do I need to do on a fresh install to be sure i have latest updates, what do i have ot run
[09:25] <Ben64> thats how most people in here are, waiting for a question they can answer
[09:25] <anthropos> heliuscron, if its a desktop install just use the update manager
[09:26] <heliuscron> in 10.04 i downloaded hundreds of files and updated
[09:26] <heliuscron> im a noob to ubuntu
[09:26] <brontosaurusrex> how would i go updating karmic server to 10.04 or something?
[09:26] <heliuscron> wheres the manager
[09:26] <anthropos> there should be a button to do it in the update manager. you can do it in the console via dist-upgrade but be careful with this
[09:27] <anthropos> heliuscron, i don't know where it is by default, i don't use the default interface. but if you use the dash and look for update, it should be there
[09:29] <heliuscron> k i see em now
[09:30] <Yup2> ftp is disabled by default in ubuntu server right
[09:30] <Yup2> the service
[09:30] <Ben64> Yup2: pretty sure that is correct
[09:30] <opalepatrick> trying to sort a few problems with evolution in ubuntu 11.10 (64) unity. The preview pane works on boot and then stops. I have done a backtrace and the trace just stops as well, although I can still do other actiosn.
[09:30] <anthropos> yes it is
[09:30] <Yup2> Thanks for the info appreciated
[09:30] <opalepatrick> I get this in the trace - (evolution:4639): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_hash_table_find: assertion `version == hash_table->version' failed - any ideas what it measn :-)
[09:31] <Yup2> as always
[09:31] <anthropos> can you pastebin the full stack trace
[09:33] <opalepatrick> http://pastebin.com/8kBrjbjc - anthropus
[09:33] <anthropos> i see, pretty useless im afraid
[09:34] <opalepatrick> this is a few actions like wandering around getting mail viewing posts, but evenytually the preview stops. Actions are still possible
[09:34] <houssam> hi
[09:34] <houssam> hiiiiiiii
[09:34] <anthropos> i don't know what to suggest other than searching for people who report this same error string
[09:34] <opalepatrick> what would be more useful anthropus?
[09:34] <opalepatrick> ah ok cheers - crossed
[09:34] <anthropos> if it had a backtrace that had more information
[09:35] <morri> I just updated to the latest version of flash, but it doesn't seem to work .
[09:35] <opalepatrick> I know it is annoying makes me just want to go back to thunderbird
[09:35] <houssam> enter  : sudo apt-get update & apt-get upgrade
[09:35] <houssam> for flash
[09:36] <bdi> Hello. I am tryingto learn how to make .deb packages by following this tutorial: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Basic  It says i have to: "Apply the unzipped .diff.gz to the unpacked source directory". How do i do that?
[09:37] <anthropos> to apply a diff, oyu use the patch command typically
[09:37] <ikonia> bdi: look into the "patch" command
[09:45] <ecthiender> i'm noticing a problem recently. when i install programs who add system users, it fails, telling 'useradd: cant lock /etc/passwd try again later'. any insights/
[09:45] <ecthiender> ?
[09:46] <ecthiender> and I get the same error when executing adduser seperately.
[09:48] <usuario> aaa
[09:48] <usuario> oolaa
[09:48] <usuario> lllllllllllll
[09:48] <usuario> ke aseis?
[09:49] <shaf> Good day internet
[09:49] <sacarlson> ecthiender: did you forget to use sudo ?
[09:49] <ecthiender> sacarlson, no :)
[09:49] <usuario> I spain
[09:49] <ecthiender> sacarlson, it doesn't say permission denied. it says it can't lock the fle
[09:49] <ecthiender> s/fle/file/
[09:49] <usuario> what your name?
[09:50] <sacarlson> ecthiender: show me the line you typed to have this happen
[09:50] <ecthiender> sudo adduser <username>
[09:50] <shaf> Does anyone here have any experience of SSD caching ?
[09:50] <sacarlson> ecthiender: you must put a real user name not <username>
[09:50] <usuario> I from spain
[09:51] <ecthiender> i know sacarlson there was a real username :)
[09:51] <anthropos> shaf, elaborate
[09:51] <usuario> boys o girls?
[09:51] <sacarlson> ecthiender: ok and I'm sure you also rebooted
[09:51] <ecthiender> sacarlson, my uptime is 1 day 4 hours
[09:52] <Jordan_U> usuario: This channel is for Ubuntu technical support questions only. Please move other discussions to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[09:52] <shaf> anthropos, I'm looking for Intel Smart Response for Linux but am hitting a brick wall ... There's bcache but I've not used it
[09:52] <usuario> I spain
[09:52] <usuario> spain
[09:52] <Jordan_U> !es | usuario
[09:52] <usuario> hola me entendeis?
[09:52] <ecthiender> sacarlson, here you go
[09:53] <ecthiender> http://pastebin.com/pZ5nYBMS
[09:53] <anthropos> shaf, I don't know anything about the proprietary software
[09:53] <anthropos> i just use an SSD in linux
[09:53] <anthropos> you should probably disable any caching done by the kernel by picking the right scheduler, but presumably you already know that
[09:54] <sacarlson> ecthiender: how about sudo ls ;
[09:54] <ecthiender> sacarlson, this is when i tried installing mpd : http://pastebin.com/GpGD8L51
[09:54] <shaf> anthropos, I'd like to accelerate an existing mechanical disk. I'll take a look at bcache
[09:54] <ecthiender> sacarlson, ??? sudo ls?
[09:54] <shaf> !bcache
[09:54] <anthropos> shaf, yeah, I understand your intent now
[09:55] <sacarlson> ecthiender: yes sudo ls; should show that the user you loged in on is in the sudoer list
[09:55] <anthropos> I don't know if ssd caching for an existing disk has been explicitly built in now but there are prob. roundabout ways to achieve it
[09:55] <anthropos> s/explicitly/explicitly implemented/
[09:56] <ecthiender> sacarlson, its just list directories as root (without bash colors)
[09:56] <DannyButterman> anthropos: I have crash data available (thanks to apport, and you of course). The bug was sent to whatever is supposed to deal with. What now ?
[09:56] <anthropos> DannyButterman, you can look in /var/crash to see if the backtrace helps you figure out what is going on
[09:57] <DannyButterman> anthropos : I've just had a look, but I don't know what to look for
[09:57] <sacarlson> ecthiender: I'm out of ideas  as sudo whoami ; would probly show your root also
[09:57] <fabien_> Hi, anyone using LXC ? I got an issue with shmmax parameter, not sure to understand how it works under a LXC context
[09:57] <anthropos> there's one file that's huge, but at the top if it you should see somethin that looks like a crash report
[09:57] <shaf> ok next question when will I be able to hot do-release-upgrade on 12.04 beta1
[09:57] <ecthiender> sacarlson, yeah. exactly :D
[09:57] <shaf> ok next question when will I be able to do  do-release-upgrade on 12.04 beta1
[09:58] <anthropos> fabien_, i've only used it via arkose
[09:58] <ecthiender> sacarlson, wait i'm checking on that.find out if i'm on sudoers list. but i'm pretty sure i am. cause i just installed mpd.
[09:58] <sacarlson> ecthiender: oh maybe /etc or the lock file is now in a read only partition
[09:58] <DannyButterman> anthropos: yes, I meant, I know where it is, I'm reading it, but I don't know what to look for inside it
[09:59] <fabien_> anthropos: ok, I'm going to post a message on forums
[10:00] <ecthiender> sacarlson, hmm
[10:00] <rajarshi> can any1 help me how to install java media framework in ubuntu 11.10
[10:00] <Feathery_Serpent> Are there alternatives to lm-sensors?
[10:01] <ecthiender> sacarlson, i have only one /dev, /dev/sda1 and it is mounted on /(root).
[10:01] <sacarlson> ecthiender: check  mount ;  see if all is mounter as rw
[10:02] <ecthiender> /dev/sda1 is mounted on / with rw sacarlson
[10:02] <anthropos> DannyButterman, the most informative part is probably where it says "Stacktrace:" part way through the .crash file
[10:02] <anthropos> but its still gonna be cryptic
[10:02] <sacarlson> ecthiender: ok
[10:02] <ecthiender> sacarlson, there's an error=remount-ro. what does that mean?
[10:03] <DannyButterman> anthropos: I found this (dont know if it's relevant) "SegvReason: reading unknown VMA"
[10:04] <anthropos> i don't know. what I would be looking for is exactly where it died in the stack trace
[10:05] <sacarlson> ecthiender:  Look for /etc/group.lock, /etc/passwd.lock and /etc/shadow.lock files and remove them.
[10:05] <anthropos> you should probably submit a proper bug report in addition to the automated thing apport does
[10:05] <ecthiender> sacarlson, oh ok. i'll try doing that
[10:05] <anthropos> if it dies in nautilus and not some library it calls, then you can do that at the nautilus project page
[10:06] <sacarlson> ecthiender: seems to be a bug in postfix in ubuntu 10.X https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/shadow/+bug/523896
[10:06] <DannyButterman> anthropos: I will. Meanwhile, could you have a look on this crash report (pastebin'd) ?
[10:06] <ecthiender> sacarlson, hmm.
[10:06] <anthropos> yes i can give it a shot
[10:06] <ecthiender> sacarlson, thanks btw :)
[10:06] <sacarlson> ecthiender: np
[10:07] <virtuaposta> hi all, need some help here. How to rsync over dynamic ip? Have checked in google but no positive hits though
[10:07] <Ben64> rsync doesn't care if the ip is dynamic
[10:07] <sacarlson> ecthiender: I would have found it sooner but my network is slow today in thailand
[10:07] <virtuaposta> Ben64, have tried but it stucks as soon as the ip changes
[10:08] <anthropos> virtuaposta, if you are having trouble 'tracking' the ip you should consider aone of the free alternatives to dyndns
[10:08] <anthropos> I don't remember their names
[10:08] <Ben64> the ip shouldn't change often
[10:08] <anthropos> freedns maybe
[10:08] <ecthiender> sacarlson, oh ok :) even here the internet is flaky (India)
[10:08] <anthropos> google "dyndns alternative"
[10:08] <virtuaposta> anthropos, do not want to track the ip, i just need some data to rsync but my ip is dynamic one
[10:08] <anthropos> as Ben64 pointed out, that is not a problem
[10:09] <anthropos> unless you want to track the ip
[10:09] <virtuaposta> Ben64 it changes in every 12mins
[10:09] <Ben64> the ip should only change when you restart the router or modem
[10:09] <anthropos> initiate the rsync from the host with the dynamic ip
[10:09] <virtuaposta> anthropos, thats what I am doing but it stucks at ip change
[10:10] <virtuaposta> hold on anthropos, Ben64 have got something :)
[10:10] <sharpspear> im trying to change permissions of a foler using "chmod a+w" but get reply Operation not permitted. how to fix?
[10:10] <Turd> trying to get the filesystem on here bigger than 30gigs but i cannot figure it out.
[10:10] <virtuaposta> let me try this and will get back
[10:11] <heliuscron> is there a good client for newsgroups for Ubuntu?
[10:11] <ecthiender> sacarlson, i just checked. i don't even have the postfix package installed.
[10:11] <anthropos> sharpspear, you may need to sudo
[10:11] <Ben64> heliuscron: sabnzbd+
[10:11] <sacarlson> virtuaposta: I thought that was part of what makes rsync so good as it should be able to continue if interupted
[10:12] <Turd> i downloaded Gparted and ran it and could resize the partition but i couldnt get ubuntu itself to grow. it still stayed at 30gig.
[10:12] <anthropos> does gparted resize both the partition and the filesystem
[10:12] <sacarlson> ecthiender: maybe another package has same problem now or you had a bad shutdown during a useradd
[10:12] <Turd> just the partition.
[10:12] <ecthiender> sacarlson, oh ok few comments say that. :)
[10:12] <virtuaposta> sacarlson, only if ip remains same as rsync also do trackback the ip
[10:13] <DannyButterman> anthropos : http://pastebin.com/E3pR2DMr
[10:13] <sharpspear> anthropos: that worked, thank you
[10:14] <Turd> anyone have any ideas?
[10:14] <sacarlson> virtuaposta: if restarted after fail it should still continue where it left off so not much time lost if you maybe add some auto restart or just wait till cron runs it again
[10:15] <Turd> anyone up?
[10:15] <DannyButterman> Turd: Are you trying to resize the partition ubuntu is running on ?
[10:15] <Myrtti> Turd: can you explain a bit more about your setup?
[10:15] <sacarlson> virtuaposta: and the chances of ip change for me it only happens every 24 hours,  you might change the time window if it keeps happening to you
[10:16] <Turd> no i want to make the filesystem bigger than 30 gigs
[10:17] <Turd> i kept getting referred to Gparted but it didnt help or i couldnt figure it out.
[10:17] <MonkeyDust> Turd  boot from a live cd and then run gparted
[10:17] <DannyButterman> Turd: my question may be naive but are you trying to resize a living partition (where ubuntu is currently running on your system) ?
[10:17] <lexvegas> Anyone know how to pass a USB HDD through to ubuntu running Virtual Box? It's formatted as EXT4, which my windows can't read
[10:17] <Turd> im still new to this im probably not being very clear.
[10:18] <DMJC> does anyone know howto install Intel SAS controller on Ubuntu?
[10:18] <DMJC> there are drivers for SUSE and Redhat
[10:18] <Turd> i dont think i need to resize the partition
[10:18] <ikonia> DMJC: are they not part of the kernel already /
[10:18] <Turd> it says im using 30 gigs out of a 147gig harddrive
[10:18] <sacarlson> lexvegas: I can read my usb flash on virtualbox but could never figure out how to boot from one in virtualbox,  just add it in devices when it's pluged in
[10:19] <DannyButterman> Turd: where does it say that ?
[10:19] <anthropos> lexvegas, did you install the guest additions and all that jazz
[10:19] <Turd> in Gparted
[10:19] <lexvegas> sacarlson, The problem is that windows doesnt recognize it as a drive. anthropos, Yes, they are installed
[10:20] <sacarlson> dmjc someone installed one earlier today, I didn't get much details
[10:20] <Turd> i have windows and ubuntu on the same machine just different harddrive (if that matters)
[10:20] <DMJC> n/m ikonia? I just found driver source
[10:20] <DMJC> it'll just be the raid manager I need to install now
[10:20] <DMJC> building a 19.5TB storage server atm
[10:22] <sacarlson> DMJC:  I saw myrth  install a PCIe SAS SSD, maybe he's still around
[10:22] <DMJC> I think I sorted it out
[10:22] <sacarlson> ok
[10:23] <DMJC> not my first time with SAS, just first time with intel, their website is badly done
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[10:24] <Ben64> well that was silly
[10:25] <morri> what a silly bunt
[10:26] <MonkeyDust> i'm glad nobody give him/her any attention
[10:26] <MonkeyDust> gave*
[10:27] <Turd> dont feed the trolls.
[10:27] <Ben64> looking though the logs he comes here and is dumb often
[10:27] <mi3> whose the troll here?
[10:27] <multiHYP> os x lion, ssh-add is necessary after every start up. anyone knows why?
[10:27] <Ben64> multiHYP: this isn't an osx support channel, it is for ubuntu only
[10:28] <Turd> so any of you know how to make the home folder bigger than 30 gigs?
[10:28] <multiHYP> Ben64: okay, sorry.
[10:28] <lexvegas> Turd, is it on its own partition?
[10:28] <DannyButterman> Turd: well how many partitions do you have ? Regardless of that, any resizing on a live partition must be done from a live CD
[10:29] <DannyButterman> anthropos: could you have a look on my crash report ?
[10:29] <Turd> i have vista and unbuntu 11.10
[10:29] <MonkeyDust> Turd  in a Terminal, type sudo fdisk -l -- use pastebin to show it to the channel
[10:30] <ikonia> Turd: you can make them any size you want as long as you have physical disk space
[10:31] <Turd> http://paste.ubuntu.com/905373/
[10:31] <sacarlson> lexvegas: not recognized as a drive?  is it seen on another system?  maybe it's just not formated
[10:31] <jony> have any channel in spanish gnome?
[10:32] <lexvegas> sardonyx, It is EXT4, so Windows won't mount it. it mounts when plugged directly into ubuntu. I can also se the "unrecognized" partition in the device manager
[10:32] <Ben64> Turd: where is your linux partition?
[10:32] <Turd> on 5
[10:33] <Ben64> it says ntfs
[10:33] <sacarlson> lexvegas: if your virtualhost is windows then it will need 3rd party software to read ext4 patitions
[10:33] <MonkeyDust> Turd  linux is to be installed on ext4
[10:33] <Yup2> #gnome-hispano- Canal de GNOME en lengua castellana / GNOME channel in Spanish language - GNOME Hispano (http://www.es.gnome.org/)
[10:33] <DMJC> ok, I need help with dkms
[10:34] <jony> thanks Yup2
[10:34] <Yup2> np
[10:34] <DMJC> I've never had to use it before on ubuntu
[10:34] <OerHeks> Turd did you use Wubi to install Ubuntu inside windows ?
[10:34] <lexvegas> sacarlson, does Windows need to be able to read it? I was thinking that it would just be able to pass it through to Ubuntu
[10:34] <DMJC> where does the driver source need to go?
[10:34] <Turd> yes i did
[10:34] <Yup2> http://www.es.gnome.org/Participa?action=show&redirect=Contacto
[10:34] <Turd> is that bad ..
[10:34] <Yup2> (canal #gnome-hispano en irc.gnome.org)
[10:34] <Yup2> no problem
[10:35] <sacarlson> lexvegas: ya you might be right if your running virtualbox in windows and ubuntu is the virtual it should work,  I've never done it
[10:35] <jony> :D not any people in this channel
[10:35] <Yup2> im not sure if irc.gnome.org is the same server as irc.freenode.net
[10:36] <lexvegas> sacarlson, thanks for the help! I'm still tinkering with it
[10:36] <MonkeyDust> Turd  wubi is only a pseudo-installation, to try out Ubuntu
[10:36] <ikonia> it's not
[10:36] <jony> ajam, ok Yup2, thanks friend
[10:36] <Yup2> there is many people in it
[10:36] <jony> yes
[10:36] <jony> :D
[10:36] <jony> sure
[10:37] <Yup2> - /server irc.gnome.org - /join #gnome-hispano
[10:38] <OerHeks> Turd not bad, but it is hard to increase that 30 gb.
[10:38] <jony> yes, i came in
[10:38] <Yup2> ok cool
[10:38] <Yup2> goodluck
[10:38] <jony> ;)
[10:38] <Paula> Hoola :)
[10:38] <Marinaa> Holaa
[10:39] <Marinaa> Paaulaa
[10:39] <Paula> Qee
[10:39] <Yup2> having fun talking to yourself
[10:39] <Paula> Tio en realidad si es un poco capullo el Tolomella
[10:39] <urgodfather> morning all
[10:40] <ikonia> !br | Paula
[10:40] <Marinaa> si $;
[10:40] <jony> thanks, nice to meet you :D
[10:40] <jony> where are you from?
[10:40] <Paula> Pero me gusta su voz :) Jejejej
[10:40] <Marinaa> Im from malaga :)
[10:40] <Paula> Im too
[10:40] <Marinaa> And you?
[10:40] <ikonia> jony: Hi jony, this channel is for Ubuntu technical support, if you'd like a chat channel try #ubuntu-offtopic or #defocus
[10:40] <jony> jajajaja córdoba
[10:40] <DMJC> SOLVED :D
[10:41] <jony> ok sorry ikonia
[10:41] <ikonia> jony: no problem
[10:41] <Marinaa> okaaay
[10:41] <Marinaa> De cordobaa??
[10:41] <Paula> Do you spiking spanish?
[10:41] <Marinaa> Eestamos cerqita
[10:41] <Marinaa> xçD
[10:41] <jony> private
[10:41] <ikonia> !es
[10:41] <Paula> Yo paso yo hablo en español cohone
[10:42] <ikonia> Paula: stop - English in this channel please.
[10:42] <Marinaa> esoesoo xD
[10:42] <ikonia> Marinaa: you too
[10:42] <Paula> Fuck you
[10:42] <Yup2> just chat in the off topic one
[10:42] <urgodfather> ikonia: try portugese
[10:42] <ikonia> they are the same person
[10:42] <Yup2> yeah they're clones
[10:43] <urgodfather> who are?
[10:43] <Yup2> paula and marinaa
[10:43] <urgodfather> oh
[10:43] <Yup2> and he told him to f off
[10:43] <Yup2> rude.
[10:43] <urgodfather> yeah i noticed that
[10:43] <jony> ubottu thanks for information
[10:43] <ikonia> Yup2: don't need a commentory
[10:43] <Yup2> ugh...
[10:43] <Yup2> grow up
[10:44] <Yup2> i'll just proxy around it grow up faggot night
[10:44] <urgodfather> anyone nifty with lirc?
[10:44] <ikonia> oops
[10:44] <morri> lol wut?
[10:45] <urgodfather> anyone nifty with lirc?
[10:45] <ikonia> urgodfather: as in the irda remote controll service ?
[10:46] <urgodfather> ikonia: yeah
[10:46] <ikonia> urgodfather: I used to use it a lot with mythtv, not done it for a while, what's up
[10:46] <Dan_E> What is the best way to remove old kernels
[10:46] <sacarlson> urgodfather: I use my android phone as a remote now with VLC, if you fail to get lirc working
[10:46] <ikonia> Dan_E: open the package manager, remove the old package
[10:47] <urgodfather> ikonia: i have a creative ir setup with rm 1500 remote... i can get it to register with irw in terminal but cant get it to do anything else
[10:47] <holaaa> holaa(:
[10:47] <ikonia> urgodfather: what are you trying to get it to do ?
[10:47] <holaaa> maria
[10:47] <maariia> Holaa
[10:47] <urgodfather> sacarlson: yeah i was doing that too with my htpc but wifi kills battery
[10:47] <maariia> in espanish plis
[10:48] <Dan_E> I am using 3.0.0.17. Can anything under that be removed?
[10:48] <ikonia> Dan_E: sure
[10:48] <urgodfather> !es
[10:48] <Dan_E> thanks
[10:48] <pw-toxic> hi, i'd like to add this: ppa:rabbitvcs/ppa   how can i do it? i want to install rabbitvcs
[10:48] <ikonia> !ppa | pw-toxic
[10:48] <sacarlson> urgodfather: I'm not sure how much power used on wifi,  It runs for about 3 or more days 24/7 without a charge
[10:49] <mrcellfizh> hello i need a command to give permissions to this folder /host thanks
[10:49] <urgodfather> sacarlson: i know what you mean but... free ir remote... much easier... plus im about to reflash my phone
[10:50] <pw-toxic> ikonia, i cant find a documentation how I can add this alternative software
[10:50] <urgodfather> sacarlson: what software do u use for htpc? mythtv? xbmc?
[10:50] <ikonia> pw-toxic: the documentation is listed in link you've been
[10:50] <sacarlson> urgodfather: I also have a ir remote on an old tv card but havn't used it since 2008  ubunt 8.04
[10:51] <urgodfather> sacarlson: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=922944
[10:51] <urgodfather> thats what i am following
[10:51] <pw-toxic> !addppa
[10:51] <pw-toxic> ah this is what i am looking for ;)
[10:52] <mrcellfizh> hey!
[10:52] <urgodfather> sacarlson: i can get it to show keypress's in the ir prog and with irw like in that thread
[10:52] <urgodfather> but thats where i am stuck at
[10:53] <urgodfather> !xbmc
[10:53] <urgodfather> !lirc config
[10:54] <urgodfather> !backtrack
[10:55] <urgodfather> !commands
[10:55] <mrcellfizh> wtf nobody can help me?
[10:55] <ikonia> mrcellfizh: tone it down please.
[10:55] <urgodfather> mrcellfizh: whats ur problem?
[10:55] <wayne__> is there some chinese?
[10:56] <urgodfather> ikonia: dont boot me for playing with the bot
[10:56] <ikonia> urgodfather: I've not, but if you need to play with it, use a pm
[10:56] <mrcellfizh> i need to give permissions to a folder so transmission dont tell me permission denied
[10:56] <mrcellfizh> its /host/Downloads
[10:56] <urgodfather> ikonia: thanks.. ill quit... just curious how "smart" it was
[10:57] <urgodfather> mrcellfizh: open a terminal
[10:57] <mrcellfizh> done
[10:57] <urgodfather> navigate to that directory
[10:57] <mrcellfizh> done
[10:57] <urgodfather> chmod 0755 the file
[10:58] <urgodfather> hold on
[10:58] <urgodfather> ikonia: confirm?
[10:58] <mrcellfizh> not the file, the entire folder is what i need
[10:58] <Myrtti> mrcellfizh: getting the permissions right depends on the case. Is this a mounted drive, network share?
[10:58] <Myrtti> mrcellfizh: or just a directory in your system?
[10:58] <urgodfather> mrcellfizh: what kind of permisssions do u neec
[10:59] <mrcellfizh> mounted drive, is where ubuntu put c:\ when you install it from webui
[10:59] <sacarlson> mrcellfizh: try man chmod  and man chown;   if the file system is ntfs then there may be other complications
[11:00] <urgodfather> sacarlson: sounds like it will be ntfs
[11:00] <mrcellfizh> yeah its ntfs, as i said, its windows's C directory
[11:00] <urgodfather> mrcellfizh: which folders are you trying to get access to in the windows partition?
[11:01] <mrcellfizh> c:/Downloads
[11:01] <urgodfather> mrcellfizh: also, was there a reason y u chose to use the wubi installer>
[11:01] <sacarlson> urgodfather: then I think there is a way  to change /etc/fstab for that mount to be forced to a user name needed
[11:02] <mrcellfizh> yes, because it is easies to uninstall
[11:02] <mrcellfizh> easier*
[11:02] <urgodfather> sacarlson: thats what i was just about to say
[11:02] <sacarlson> mrcellfizh: oh it's wubi then I have no idea
[11:03] <mrcellfizh> but whats the difference? its just a folder...
[11:03] <urgodfather> mrcellfizh: create a separate partition... make logical extended... then make ur sub partitions within i.e. ext3 for / and swap
[11:04] <urgodfather> to uninstall... format
[11:04] <sacarlson> mrcellfizh: wubi is more like a virtual mounted system mounted from within another file system,  it's over my head
[11:04] <mrcellfizh> so you're telling me right now windows is loaded? and i'm on a virtual machine?
[11:05] <urgodfather> mrcellfizh: no
[11:05] <mrcellfizh> sounds like inception to me
[11:05] <urgodfather> mrcellfizh: lol
[11:06] <mrcellfizh> the thing is, i gave this partition 17GB, i could change the download partition but if i'm going to download something big...
[11:06] <urgodfather> mrcellfizh: wubi tricks the  pc into thinking that ubuntu is installed on a partition when really... this nonexisting partition is really a file... equal to an iso intheory
[11:07] <mrcellfizh> oh i get it
[11:07] <urgodfather> mrcellfizh: how many partitions do u have on the drive?
[11:07] <mrcellfizh> none
[11:07] <urgodfather> mrcellfizh: you have one at least
[11:07] <mrcellfizh> of course
[11:08] <urgodfather> mr
[11:08] <urgodfather> mrcellfizh: in my experience... wubi is a disaster waiting to happen
[11:08] <urgodfather> mrcellfizh: much better to have a native install
[11:09] <urgodfather> i will walk you thru if u want
[11:09] <mrcellfizh> i know how to make one but i find this more easy to handle a possible failure
[11:10] <mrcellfizh> i tried changing permission with nautilus but nothing happened
[11:10] <urgodfather> mrcellfizh: im not sure... but i think there could be problems with making fstab force mount/unmount at login/out
[11:11] <mrcellfizh> now you're talking chinese to me
[11:12] <urgodfather> mrcellfizh: !fstab
[11:12] <urgodfather> !fstab
[11:12] <urgodfather> mrcellfizh: there
[11:13] <mrcellfizh> oki, thanks for your help, i'll try to download my stuff into an external harddrive
[11:13] <mrcellfizh> i don't want to read that thing, i'm just an user, why do they complicate things that much...
[11:13] <mrcellfizh> anyway, thanks for your help
[11:14] <urgodfather> mrcellfizh: im sure theres a tutorial to create a true dual boot to do what you want
[11:14] <foobArrr> can I make all the :i386 packages not show up in synaptic?
[11:14] <urgodfather> mrcellfizh: brb
[11:15] <wayne__> hi there !
[11:15] <mrcellfizh> well the thing is, i've been to days installing programs, akins etc, i don't want to do it all over again
[11:17] <wayne__> 怎么都是英语？
[11:18] <urgodfather> mrcellfizh: on ubuntu?
[11:18] <urgodfather> wayne | !ch
[11:18] <mrcellfizh> urgodfather: i have a question, if i can save stuff through ubuntu, in /host folder, using the guy, why a program cant do it?
[11:18] <TwoGunsAndADing> !cn 怎么都是英语？
[11:18] <mrcellfizh> gui*
[11:18] <wayne__> ？
[11:19] <urgodfather> mrcellfizh: what do you mean?
[11:19] <urgodfather> mrcellfizh: why cant u see it in windows?
[11:19] <mrcellfizh> i mean, if i want, right nw i can cut an image from desktop, go to /host and paste it right there
[11:19] <urgodfather> yeah
[11:19] <mrcellfizh> why if i can do it, a program cant?
[11:19] <TwoGunsAndADing> 我不知道
[11:20] <TwoGunsAndADing> 在英國的Ubuntu？
[11:20] <urgodfather> what cant it?
[11:20] <urgodfather> why?
[11:20] <urgodfather> i mean
[11:20] <mrcellfizh> save a file into that folder
[11:20] <urgodfather> is there an error?
[11:20] <mrcellfizh> host/downloads
[11:20] <mrcellfizh> yeah,transmission is saying: permission denied
[11:21] <szal> !cn | TwoGunsAndADing
[11:21] <Drajwer> hello. how do I fix this error ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/905443/
[11:22] <urgodfather> Drajwer: sudo apt-get install libc6
[11:22] <Drajwer> oh well its installed
[11:22] <Drajwer> and the same version apt says its not
[11:23] <urgodfather> mrcellfizh: could be related to the wubi thing
[11:23] <dageriv> How can I press SHIFT+Alt+X M? I am pressing all those keys but apparantly it does not work
[11:23] <mrcellfizh> but just yesterday i was downloading things through transmission, i also download things in chrome, directly into that folder
[11:23] <ie_> ciao
[11:23] <urgodfather> mrcellfizh: i really recommend making a partition and reinstalling the traditional  way
[11:24] <mrcellfizh> oki, thanks.
[11:24] <urgodfather> mrcellfizh: i dunno bro
[11:24] <mrcellfizh> thanks for your help tho
[11:24] <urgodfather> Drajwer: got it fixed?
[11:24] <Drajwer> nope urgodfather
[11:24] <Drajwer> im not going to remove and install libc6 because it will break my desktop
[11:24] <urgodfather> sudo apt-get update
[11:25] <urgodfather> apt-get upgrade
[11:25] <Angeldust76> list
[11:25] <Drajwer> nope urgodfather
[11:25] <urgodfather> do those two
[11:25] <Drajwer> tried it already several times
[11:26] <mrcellfizh> urgodfather, i'll switch torrent client u.u
[11:26] <urgodfather> Drajwer: might need to do a dist upgrade... dont remember the command im thinking of
[11:26] <sacarlson> Drajwer: some ppa installed?
[11:26] <urgodfather> mrcellfizh: that might work
[11:26] <Drajwer> sacarlson: nope, just the google chrome repo if that matters
[11:26] <Drajwer> i am avoiding ppas
[11:27] <urgodfather> mrcellfizh: at least around the problem
[11:27] <urgodfather> Drajwer: avoiding ppas? why?
[11:27] <mrcellfizh> the funny thing is, yesterday i was downloading things
[11:27] <mrcellfizh> with it, and today it says it
[11:27] <mrcellfizh> this*
[11:27] <mrcellfizh> anyway, there's other people who need your help
[11:27] <urgodfather> mrcellfizh: is it full?
[11:28] <Drajwer> I have 10.04 LTS for a reason. ppas are peoples compilations and I am afraid they will break my OS.
[11:28] <mrcellfizh> full? you mean the harddisk?
[11:28] <urgodfather> mrcellfizh: im not a pro.. just another user helping wiere i can
[11:29] <urgodfather> Drajwer: fair enough
[11:29] <sacarlson> Drajwer: you did remember to sudo apt-get update; didn't you?
[11:29] <mrcellfizh> well
[11:29] <mrcellfizh> cya
[11:29] <mrcellfizh> bye
[11:29] <urgodfather> sacarlson: yeah
[11:29] <urgodfather> Drajwer: try to clean first
[11:29] <Angeldust76> #join /ubuntu-fr
[11:29] <Drajwer> 'apt-get update' and 'apt-get upgrade' are not the greatest fixes for all problems
[11:30] <Drajwer> and in my case they obviously does not work
[11:30] <sacarlson> Drajwer: apt-get update; is an absolute nessesity if you haven't installed anything in more than 2 days
[11:31] <Drajwer> I agree
[11:31] <Drajwer> but my apt is broken
[11:31] <Drajwer> and apt-get update wont fix it
[11:31] <sacarlson> Drajwer: ok got it then
[11:31] <sacarlson> Drajwer: and I assume you mean didn't fix it in past tensce
[11:32] <szal> Drajwer: how is it broken?
[11:32] <Drajwer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/905443/ szal
[11:33] <szal> Drajwer: that's not apt being broken
[11:33] <Drajwer> ofcourse it is
[11:33] <Drajwer> assuming libc6 is already installed
[11:33] <sacarlson> Drajwer: I looked back a ways but didn't see what version of ubuntu your running and also we should get a pastebin of your /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:34] <ikonia> Drajwer: that suggests you've got conflicting repos
[11:34] <ikonia> Drajwer: got any PPA's enabled
[11:34] <ikonia> Drajwer: that's not apt being broken
[11:35] <sacarlson> Drajwer: agree with ikonia: on that as the sources.list should point out if so
[11:35] <urgodfather> Drajwer: do sudo apt-get upgrade libc6
[11:35] <ikonia> Drajwer: do not do what urgodfather has suggestd
[11:35] <urgodfather> not -dbg
[11:35] <Drajwer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/905460/
[11:35] <urgodfather> ikonia: why not?
[11:35] <ikonia> urgodfather: why would he want to upgrade the core c libraray of his system to a version that may be causing a conflict
[11:36] <Drajwer> here is my sources.list, and I am running Ubuntu 10.04.3 LTS x64.
[11:36] <ikonia> Drajwer: anything in /etc/apt/sources.list.d ?
[11:36] <Drajwer> apt-build, and google-chrome
[11:36] <urgodfather> ikonia: i thought the conflict was he's stil using an old library
[11:36] <ikonia> Drajwer: apt-build maybe the issue
[11:36] <ikonia> Drajwer: what's in that PPA ?
[11:37] <ikonia> Drajwer: does it pull down a different libc version with any of the packages ?
[11:38] <Drajwer> nope, removed the apt-build repo from the directory you mentioned and still the same issue
[11:38] <Drajwer> and I am sure it was not colliding
[11:38] <ikonia> Drajwer: you can't just remove it
[11:39] <ikonia> Drajwer: if something has been installed from a repo, removing the repo doesn't change the packages that are installed
[11:39] <ikonia> Drajwer: how are you sure ?
[11:39] <sacarlson> Drajwer: ikonia: maybe if he changes his repository server to another location?  like japan or something
[11:39] <Drajwer> it was just for the apt-build tool
[11:39] <ikonia> Drajwer: but what does that depend on ?
[11:40] <ikonia> sacarlson: I can't see that being the problem as the version differences are too great for a minor upgrade not being synced to a repo
[11:40] <Drajwer> anyway this tool is not installed
[11:40] <ikonia> sacarlson: I see it more likley as an external repo having that size a change
[11:40] <ikonia> Drajwer: again, it doesn't matter what's installed now
[11:40] <ikonia> Drajwer: it matters what has been installed
[11:40] <ikonia> the package manager gets updated with version information when you install things, if you then remove those repos it doens't change what is in that information
[11:40] <Drajwer> fun fact: I have libc6 with exact version as apt-get says, so why it might be a collision ?
[11:41] <ikonia> Drajwer: which version of libc is on your system ?
[11:41] <Drajwer> 2.11.1-0ubuntu7.8
[11:41] <ikonia> Drajwer: right, and it WANTS 2.11.1-0ubuntu7
[11:41] <ikonia> not 2.11.1-0ubuntu7.8
[11:42] <ikonia> so you HAVE a conflict
[11:42] <ikonia> !info libc lucid
[11:42] <Drajwer> so why the hell it happened
[11:42] <ikonia> !info libc6 lucid
[11:42] <ikonia> Drajwer: probably because the conflicting version got pulled in from an external repo
[11:43] <Drajwer> cant i just downgrade it with apt?
[11:43] <ikonia> Drajwer: doubtful, but you are welcome to try
[11:43] <Drajwer> cant 'install --reinstall' removing is not a case because it will break things
[11:44] <Drajwer> I am seriously considering CentOS 6.2 which is supported till 2017
[11:44] <ikonia> Drajwer: ok, use centos then
[11:44] <ikonia> Drajwer: you'll have the same problems with Centos if you can't manage your yum repositories
[11:44] <Drajwer> no no its linux so the reinstall is not a fix
[11:44] <ikonia> Drajwer: I didn't say it was, you said you wanted to use centos
[11:45] <ikonia> I don't care which distro you use
[11:45] <Drajwer> in some future after 10.04 LTS will not be supported anymore
[11:45] <ikonia> Drajwer: it will be supported for 5 years after 04 2010
[11:45] <ikonia> Drajwer: the new lts will be supported for 5 years after 04 2012
[11:46] <Ben64> isn't 10.04 on 3/5 year still
[11:46] <Drajwer> I personally prefer gnome2 over unity, gnome3 etc so it might be the last ubuntu desktop
[11:46] <ikonia> Drajwer: great, again, I don't care which distro you use
[11:47] <Drajwer> ok. lets start from the beggining
[11:47] <sacarlson> Drajwer: I may be mistaken but if he has libc6 2.11.1-0ubuntu7.8  and lucid supports libc6 2.11.1-0ubuntu7.10 , doesn't that mean that his install app is asking for something too old?
[11:47] <ikonia> sacarlson: correct
[11:48] <Drajwer> sacarlson: im wondering too
[11:48] <pider> anyone got a solution on this problem: "wifi disabled by hardware switch Dell Inspiron 1018", I've google it and installed new driver, but still same problem_
[11:48] <ikonia> !info libc6-dbg
[11:48] <sacarlson> ikonia: and not that he has installed an incorect libc6 already
[11:48] <ikonia> sacarlson: I don't think his installed libc is incorrect, there is a conflict between his installed version and what the debug package wants
[11:49] <red-dragon> cheers.. i'm using backtrack =)
[11:49] <ikonia> !info libc6-dbg lucid
[11:49] <Drajwer> I am not user of ppas, neither other repositories
[11:49] <ikonia> Drajwer: although you have 2 ppas on your system
[11:50] <ikonia> Drajwer: pretty hard to say "I don't use them" when you've just shown you have 2 on your system
[11:50] <sacarlson> ikonia: so to see what he has installed wouldn't  uname -a or what's that other command to verify what it thinks it is?
[11:50] <Drajwer> I dont think google-chrome could break my libc6
[11:50] <Ben64> i'm running lucid, and libc6-dbg is  2.11.1-0ubuntu7.10
[11:50] <ikonia> Drajwer: I didn't say it would, but you can't say that without checking
[11:50] <Drajwer> when 7.10 is the new one ubottu tells
[11:50] <Ben64> doesn't want me to downgrade anything
[11:50] <ikonia> Drajwer: and you are saying "I don't use things" when you do
[11:50] <Drajwer> when I have 7.8 it going to be upgraded right?
[11:51] <ikonia> Ben64: yeah, debug is at 7.10 is it stands to reason it would want libc6 at 7.10 also
[11:51] <Ben64> i'm guessing its a repository problem, because mine is working fine
[11:51] <ikonia> Ben64: I can't see it being a repo problem because debug is at the correct version, so libc should also be at the same version
[11:51] <ikonia> give it a try though, it maybe an easy fix
[11:52] <cristian_c> Hi
[11:52] <cristian_c> I can not find the channel of the headphones in alsamixer
[11:52] <cristian_c> I'm using Oneiric
[11:52] <sacarlson> Ben64: we have a list of his repository already http://paste.ubuntu.com/905460/ ; I haven't seen the source.list.d yet maybe we should also see that?
[11:52] <ikonia> or manually look in the repo URL you are using and see what's there
[11:53] <cristian_c> I can not adjust the volume of headphones individually
[11:53] <Ben64> his sources.list is all pl.archive.ubuntu
[11:53] <cristian_c> how can I fix it?
[11:53] <Ben64> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu lucid-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[11:53] <Ben64> mine are just archive.ubuntu
[11:53] <Drajwer> sources.list.d is a repository for google chrome and I think google does not want me to break my packages
[11:54] <sacarlson> ikonia: Drajwer: I think it's still worth try another repository not pl...  but us.  or japan
[11:54] <Drajwer> by injecting old libc6
[11:54] <ikonia> sacarlson: give it a go
[11:54] <DarsVaeda> can you get unity to have/display bigger border touch areas?
[11:54] <DarsVaeda> it is really hard to resize windows
[11:54] <ikonia> Drajwer: you said it had more than google chrome in before
[11:54] <DarsVaeda> I mean difficult
[11:54] <ikonia> Drajwer: please stop changing your mind to what you think we want to hear and just give is the real info
[11:55] <Drajwer> ok, there was also apt-build repo which I removed now
[11:55] <Drajwer> and it was not the case too
[11:56] <sacarlson> Drajwer: try repository japan or us , it will only take 3 minits to try
[11:56] <bastidrazor> DarsVaeda: hold alt then middle click the window and drag. that allows resizing
[11:56] <Drajwer> sacarlson: nope, switched to jp and still the same
[11:56] <DarsVaeda> ahh thanks thats helpful
[11:57] <sacarlson> Drajwer: crap,  and did apt-get update; I"m sure?
[11:57] <Drajwer> yes
[11:57] <sacarlson> Drajwer: purge-ppa ?  not sure you need the original list in teh repository list to run it
[11:58] <jfklscmlciocvnc> how can i join other room?
[11:59] <cristian_c> an other question:
[12:00] <sacarlson> jfklscmlciocvnc: /join #freenode
[12:00] <jfklscmlciocvnc> thanks
[12:01] <cristian_c> I can finally trigger the LED of the wireless button, substantially if I press it, it switchs from blue to red and from red to blue
[12:01] <cristian_c> I use echo none > "/sys/class/leds/ath5k-phy0::tx/trigger"
[12:02] <cristian_c> and echo phy0radio > "/sys/class/leds/ath5k-phy0::rx/trigger"
[12:02] <cristian_c> but also other combinations work
[12:03] <cristian_c> But the problem is that the colors are inverted for the wifi on / off. I add that I tried to enter the commands in rc.local, to use a script, but the result is always the same
[12:04] <cristian_c> I wanted to know if there was a way to invert the colors
[12:04] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[12:05] <sacarlson> cristian_c: maybe add in post connect in /etc/network/interfaces but that I guess would overide network-manager
[12:05] <maniac360> hi all
[12:07] <Drajwer> sacarlson: fixed it
[12:07] <Drajwer> aptitude install libc6=2.11.1-0ubuntu7
[12:07] <Drajwer> nothing bad happens ( yet ) and libc6-dbg is installed
[12:07] <maniac360> I recently install atftpd-server and I get Invalid IP problem, I dont know what the problem is, My IP seems right, anyone have an idea?I use debian squeez its for a pxe server
[12:08] <sacarlson> Drajwer: I didn't know aptitude had that option
[12:08] <cristian_c> sacarlson, thanks for the answer :)
[12:08] <Drajwer> apt-get has this option too I suppose
[12:09] <cristian_c> sacarlson, I do not know how to reverse the colors to the LED
[12:09] <sacarlson> Drajwer: did you upgrade to lucid or did you install it direct from a livecd ?
[12:10] <Drajwer> livecd
[12:10] <cristian_c> sacarlson, i.e, red off, blue on
[12:10] <sacarlson> cristian_c: I thought those commands you gave have control to set what you want, if so just set to desired color after connected
[12:11] <sacarlson> cristian_c: sounds like a bug in the driver that must play with them
[12:12] <jellow> Hi there ubuntu does not pick my wireless device Broadcom Corporation Device 4358 ?
[12:12] <bazhang> !broadcom | jellow have a read
[12:12] <cristian_c> sacarlson, what do you recommend? :)
[12:13] <sacarlson> Drajwer: but if that works that still doesn't explain why your repositories don't have the supported version for lucid
[12:14] <jellow> bazhang,  b43-fwcutter says it cannot not extract the firmware because of md5sum not matching up
[12:14] <Drajwer> maybe the irc bot checks 10.04.4
[12:14] <Drajwer> I have 10.04.3
[12:14] <sacarlson> Drajwer: oh you think the bot was incorect I'll check the website
[12:16] <valentin_> nicolas?
[12:16] <sacarlson> Drajwer: no shows the same here http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/libc6  as  2.11.1-0ubuntu7.10  so both the repositories you tried are incomplete
[12:18] <Drajwer> E: Version '2.11.1-0ubuntu7.10' for 'libc6' was not found
[12:18] <f3ck4r> ohayo gozaimasu!
[12:19] <Pici> Drajwer: Do you have the security or updates repositories enabled?
[12:19] <AcidRain> my home folder claims to be at 64gig used disk space. which is 100%. just yesturday i had 40gig free. can anyone expalain this?
[12:19] <cristian_c> sacarlson, ie if you touch the interfaces file, or do anything else
[12:19] <Pici> Drajwer: 2.11.1-0ubuntu7 is in lucid main, 2.11.1-0ubuntu7.10 is in lucid-updates and lucid-security
[12:20] <Drajwer> thanks
[12:20] <Pici> Drajwer: http://paste.ubuntu.com/905498/
[12:20] <sacarlson> Drajwer: I have lucid on another partition I can boot it and verify that libc6-dev is or is not missing if I reboot
[12:20] <valentin_> oh
[12:20] <valentin_> !
[12:22] <sacarlson> Drajwer: oh I forgot I have the 32bit version of lucid do no sense to try
[12:22] <gorski> flash crashed chromium and firefox, any help?
[12:22] <Drajwer> enabled lucid-security and lucid-updates hoping nothing will break after upgrade
[12:23] <acidrain_> please someone, i need help. my system is saying its at 100% full on disk space
[12:23] <acidrain_> does this mean my drives are about to fail?
[12:23] <sacarlson> Drajwer: oh it looks like your missing security in your sources.list
[12:23] <acidrain_> how can i copy everything from my hdd?
[12:23] <jrib> acidrain_: just means they're full, no?
[12:23] <acidrain_> i need to back up now
[12:23] <DMJC> I am about ready to uninstall ubuntu
[12:24] <DMJC> it won't build dkms package
[12:24] <acidrain_> jrib: but its an 80gig hdd. ive had it in use for about 2 months. yesturday it was at 50gig free space
[12:24] <DMJC> it's complaining about filename-v00.00.6blah
[12:24] <DMJC> not starting with a number
[12:24] <jellow> Is it possible that there is no support at all for BCM driver 4358 ?
[12:24] <jrib> acidrain_: well check what's using the space now
[12:24] <DMJC> won't convert rpm to .deb
[12:24] <DMJC> it's useless
[12:24] <jrib> DMJC: be more specific; don't use enter as punctuation; don't convert rpm to deb
[12:25] <acidrain_> jrib: it says its my home directory, but when i look at my home directories subdirectories, none of them equal the 67gigs it claims to be using
[12:25] <DMJC> I am trying to install an Intel SAS controller
[12:25] <cristian_c> sacarlson, the doubt is just that
[12:25] <DMJC> the driver comes as .rpm files, or as a tarball of source
[12:25] <DMJC> dkms will not install the tarball, it complains about an image of some kind. I'm trying to install the rpm packages but it just complains about the version numbers starting with a letter and bombs out
[12:25] <jrib> DMJC: you're still using enter as punctuation.  Take a few minutes to state your issue on a single line with details (if you need more space for things like errors and commands, use a pastebin)
[12:26] <sacarlson> cristian_c: I recomend not messing with it just adjust to it maybe submit a bug report, learn to live with it for now till it's fixed or fix it yourself
[12:26] <acidrain_> jrib: what should i do? im pretty sure the disk usage analysis program that comes with ubuntu has to by lying to me
[12:26] <acidrain_> nothing is using as much space as is claims to be
[12:26] <jrib> acidrain_: how are you checking?  What's the output of df -h?
[12:27] <valentin_> NIcola?
[12:27] <valentin_> !!!7
[12:27] <valentin_> 4
[12:27] <valentin_> loool
[12:27] <acidrain_> jrib: i had to shut it down because i was afraid something was about to fry because it was moving so slow with 8gig of ram and a quad core
[12:27] <valentin_> loool
[12:27] <acidrain_> what will df -h do?
[12:27] <jrib> acidrain_: boot a live cd
[12:28] <acidrain_> jrib: now when you say a live cd. u mean the "try ubuntu instead of install" right?
[12:29] <MonkeyDust> acidrain_  computers are machines, thay don't lie
[12:29] <MonkeyDust> they*
[12:29] <acidrain_> im pretty sure this is a hack that has filled my system
[12:29] <Drajwer> hdd going to be broken ? boot off live cd and dd_rescue it
[12:30] <MonkeyDust> acidrain_  in a Terminal, type df -h
[12:30] <speakman> The flashplayer-installer update earlier today has ruined any flash content! What's going on?
[12:30] <acidrain_> MonkeyDust: hang on, im going to try to boot it back up
[12:30] <acidrain_> there is alot of strain on my system
[12:30] <MonkeyDust> acidrain_  if it's a hack that has acces, then all the linux blogs worldwide will report it
[12:30] <cristian_c> sacarlson, ok, then I'll report the bug, because I have not found a report on launchpad
[12:30] <cristian_c> sacarlson, thancks for the support :)
[12:31] <cristian_c> *thanks
[12:32] <acidrain_> MonkeyDust: ok check this out dude! it says of total of 71gig. i have 8.16gig used!
[12:32] <acidrain_> how can it be full?!!?
[12:32] <MonkeyDust> full?
[12:32] <jrib> acidrain_: yes, by "live cd" I mean "try ubuntu" option
[12:32] <jrib> acidrain_: pastebin the output of « df -h »
[12:32] <MonkeyDust> 8/71 gb is not "full", is it?
[12:33] <acidrain_> pastebin.com/zpJbNATK
[12:34] <acidrain_> http://pastebin.com/zpJbNATK
[12:34] <acidrain_> sry, clickable link
[12:34] <jrib> acidrain_: where exactly do you see the message about a hard drive being full?
[12:34] <valentin_> m
[12:35] <MonkeyDust> acidrain_  i'm not getting it, you have plenty space left, what's the prob?
[12:35] <acidrain_> jrib: the message is gone right now. but before i rebooted, i would get a popup message on my system that says "This computer has 0bytes remaining." then i had the options to Examine, Ignore
[12:35] <cristian_c> sacarlson, one last thing: it's a good idea to report on launchpad?
[12:35] <acidrain_> right! thats what im not getting
[12:35] <jrib> acidrain_: did you examine?
[12:35] <jellow> Hi there how can I find out the exact model of my wireless card?
[12:35] <acidrain_> jrib: yes, and it opened the ubuntu disk analysis application
[12:35] <acidrain_> and it said it had used 71gig of 71gig
[12:35] <acidrain_> with 0bytes left
[12:36] <jrib> acidrain_: if it happens again, come back without closing anything
[12:36] <acidrain_> jrib: ... yes sir... this is crazy dude
[12:36] <acidrain_> it should happen again soon. because i restarted yesturday, and the first message that popped up on my system was the same one!
[12:36] <acidrain_> this is blowing my mind. in case of a possible hdd failure is about to happen, im goig to backup right now
[12:37] <DMJC> ok, are the intel LSI based raid controllers the same as the LSI raid controllers?
[12:38] <valentin_> pffff
[12:38] <farsight-xf> hello everyone
[12:38] <valentin_> oulla
[12:38] <rens> I've tried to configure an Ubuntu 11 server for authentication using pam_ldap... the /etc/ldap.conf file is correctly afaik, what should I look for besides configuring /etc/ldap.conf & /etc/nsswitch.conf to get my LDAP visible when I do a 'getent passwd' ?
[12:38] <valentin_> ...
[12:38] <valentin_> .
[12:39] <cristian_c> sacarlson, because you wrote: 'maybe'
[12:39] <farsight-xf> I have a problem? the android mapview is failed
[12:39] <marios__> Last time I had to setup LDAP, it was with active directory - so /etc/krb5.conf needed some editing
[12:40] <sacarlson> cristian_c: sure why not , just be sure to provide all the info
[12:40] <farsight-xf> has anyone is success?
[12:40] <marios__> Oh, and /etc/pam.d too
[12:41] <JeanM> connect
[12:41] <JeanM> oups!
[12:41] <valentin_> .
[12:41] <sacarlson> cristian_c: maybe is just a mater of personal preference what color the light should be when active?
[12:41] <rens> marios__: I already set the PAM files, but that shouldn't be required for just listing the users right?
[12:43] <cristian_c> sacarlson, you are right, but I had to give commands because the LED was flashing, the bug there is howewer
[12:43] <cristian_c> *however
[12:44] <cristian_c> *blinking
[12:45] <cristian_c> ok, I'll report it :)
[12:46] <Avorntur> hi, does anyone here know how I can change the default (terminal) keyboard layout?
[12:47] <captainjamie> When I start epiphany-browser it doesn't run but when I sudo epiphany-browser it does. Any ideas? Terminal output isn't very helpful, it just says timeout reached. I've also completely removed and reinstalled all related packages with synaptic...
[12:47] <Myrtti> captainjamie: have you set a root account password?
[12:47] <captainjamie> yes
[12:48] <ikonia> ughhh
[12:48] <Myrtti> captainjamie: that might be the reason, setting it and using it does make some settings go absolutely bonkers.
[12:48] <ikonia> why set a root password ?
[12:48] <ikonia> that's the whole point of the sudo setup
[12:48] <captainjamie> maybe I don't have a root password then
[12:48] <Shojo> lol
[12:49] <ikonia> ......right, a minute ago you said you set one
[12:49] <sacarlson> Avorntur: maybe keyboard mapping https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaKeys
[12:49] <Shojo> ikonia: better explain what it is... he doesnt know
[12:49] <captainjamie> I have a password when I type sudo it asks for a password and I put one in
[12:49] <Myrtti> captainjamie: that's not a root password
[12:49] <captainjamie> Well, no then
[12:49] <ikonia> I'll go back to reading
[12:49] <Shojo> that works too
[12:50] <Myrtti> Shojo: usually when you ask "have you set a root password" the answer is either "yes I have" or "what's that"
[12:50] <Shojo> Myrtti: liek statistics?
[12:50] <Shojo> like*
[12:51] <dhp> ls
[12:52] <jati> Hi ubuntu¡¡
[12:52] <jati> does anybody test ubuntu in a Samsung np530 14' laptop?
[12:53] <captainjamie> so any ideas then? If I haven't set a "root password"
[12:56] <joelio> strange issue on precise.. seem to have lost my ability to alt-tab and some other shortcuts (although custom ones work)
[12:56] <Shojo> captainjamie: got it, but i wasn't here when u asked your question, you might ask me in PM.
[12:57] <Myrtti> joelio: try #ubuntu+1
[12:58] <joelio> Myrtti: ok
[13:00] <Linux4UnMe> evening
[13:00] <It_2927> Hey Linux4UnMe
[13:01] <Linux4UnMe> It_2927:  howz it goin
[13:01] <It_2927> not bad here
[13:01] <It_2927> you?
[13:01] <hubsinger> what is the system user "backup" used for in a 10.04 server installation / is it ok to give him a smbpasswd ?
[13:01] <Linux4UnMe> It_2927:  lol, tipsy and tired
[13:01] <It_2927> Lmao are you Linux4UnMe off youtube?
[13:01] <Linux4UnMe> brings new meaning to 'tnt' eh o-0
[13:01] <It_2927> :P
[13:01] <Linux4UnMe> It_2927:  yeah
[13:02] <It_2927> Cool :P
[13:02] <Linux4UnMe> i was bored.... so thought i'de drop by and see whats goin on
[13:02] <Linux4UnMe> since my channel is dead atm. lol
[13:02] <It_2927> aww
[13:02] <It_2927> i'll sub :P
[13:02] <Linux4UnMe> lol.
[13:02] <Linux4UnMe> i meant my irc channel
[13:03] <It_2927> oh lmao
[13:03] <dell> Linux4UnMe: pm me the channel
[13:03] <Pici> !offtopic
[13:03] <Linux4UnMe> dell:  sure.... well... it's just my exact nick
[13:04] <gorski> flash plugin crashed, it won't start anymore (firefox and chromium)
[13:07] <troulouliou_dev> hi what is the official  procedure to add french spelling and grammar in Libreoffice installed on English OS ?
[13:08] <jpds> troulouliou_dev: Open Language Support, install French language support.
[13:08] <troulouliou_dev> jpds, through apt / synaptic or from libreoffice
[13:09] <jpds> troulouliou_dev: "Language Support" is the name of the application.
[13:09] <troulouliou_dev> jpds, i want to keep ubuntu in english , i just want to have the french dictionary in Libreoffice
[13:09] <deicon> anthropos: do you have a usb?
[13:10] <jpds> troulouliou_dev: Installing a language support pack, doesn't mean changing the language for the whole system.
[13:11] <troulouliou_dev> jpds, ok so this isn't an aspell issue then ?
[13:11] <jpds> troulouliou_dev: Probably not.
[13:15] <yogster> Is it possible to run OSX programs like Pro tools 9 on ubuntu
[13:17] <fidel> yogster: most likely not ;)
[13:17] <yogster> arent there emulators?
[13:18] <fidel> i dont know of any wine-like attempt for that
[13:18] <yogster> :/
[13:18] <yogster> also
[13:18] <yogster> I have a soundcard from MOTU
[13:18] <yogster> i found drivers for it for windows
[13:18] <yogster> for osx
[13:18] <yogster> but not for linux
[13:18] <yogster> what do i do?
[13:19] <FloodBot1> yogster: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:19] <fidel> in the worst case scenario - use the MS driver
[13:19] <yogster> i can use the MS driver for it?
[13:19] <yogster> on liinux
[13:19] <fidel> its possible yes - but for sure not perfect
[13:19] <zykotick9> yogster: no.  fidel just gave you bad advice.
[13:20] <fidel> zykotick9: regarding?
[13:20] <It_2927> finally the zykotick returns
[13:20] <It_2927> :D
[13:20] <yogster> zykotick9 could you elaborate?
[13:20] <zykotick9> fidel: you can't use a ms driver for a soundcard.  yogster
[13:20] <fidel> zykotick9: i used windows driver in linux i.e. for network cards
[13:21] <zykotick9> fidel: network, yes - with ndiswrapper
[13:21] <fidel> ndsiwrapper might be the keyword - or am i really wrong here?
[13:21] <yogster> zykotick9 can I use the windows driver for my MOTU traveller card?
[13:21] <hubsinger> what is the system user "backup" used for in a 10.04 server installation / is it ok to give him a smbpasswd ?
[13:21] <yogster> on linux
[13:21] <fidel> zykotick9: why wouldnt that work for a sound-device? curious - havent done that much with ndiswrapper
[13:21] <zykotick9> yogster: Masters Of The Universe?
[13:22] <yogster> zykotick9 pardon?
[13:22] <zykotick9> fidel: ndiswrapper is for NICs only
[13:22] <fidel> zykotick9: ok - thanks
[13:22] <zykotick9> yogster: MOTU? i have no idea what that is.
[13:22] <Pici> !motu | zykotick9
[13:23] <yogster> zykotick9 its a company that produces sound cards for musicians
[13:23] <yogster> its an external card
[13:23] <yogster> very expensive
[13:23] <Pici> zykotick9: oh, in hindsight I guess thats not what you were looking for.
[13:23] <Pici> zykotick9: sorry.
[13:23] <zykotick9> Pici: that motu i'm aware of ;)
[13:24] <yogster> zykotick9 motu.com
[13:24] <fidel> yogster: how is that external sound card connected to your computer?
[13:25] <zykotick9> yogster: i have no idea about motu's gnu/linux support - best of luck
[13:25] <yogster> zykotick9 do you know if I can run OSX programs like Pro Tools 9 on ubuntu?
[13:25] <yogster> caues I dont have OSX :/
[13:25] <zykotick9> yogster: no you can't
[13:26] <yogster> really?
[13:26] <yogster> i thought there has to be emulators like wine
[13:26] <fidel> yogster: i told you so ;)
[13:26] <yogster> fidel its connected through FW
[13:26] <zykotick9> yogster: "emulator like wine" funny ;)
[13:26] <fidel> best thing you can do regarding osy itself is breaking apples license and try to run it virtual or dig into the hackintosh corner - both ugly
[13:26] <zykotick9> yogster: Wine Is Not an Emulator
[13:27] <yogster> zykotick9 sorry
[13:27] <fidel> both ugly areas
[13:27] <It_2927> wine is a compatibility layer
[13:27] <yogster> so how do i run pro tools 9 on linux?
[13:27] <yogster> is it possible at all?
[13:29] <yogster> how do i do that fidel?
[13:29] <Pici> yogster: its not on-topic for this channel, and a legal grey-area anyway.
[13:29] <yogster> Pici ok
[13:33] <gvandeweyer> I have a large (22TB) on a GPT/jfs formatted hard disk. After a reboot, I cannot mount it, with 'wrong fs, bad option, bad superblock,...,or other error' error.
[13:33] <foobArrr> is there a easy way for batch printing? "print all pdfs in directory foo"?
[13:34] <gvandeweyer> another jfs mounts fine. What are my options?
[13:34] <pfifo> ikonia, thanks
[13:34] <jrib> foobArrr: yeah, use lpr
[13:34] <foobArrr> thx
[13:34] <jati>  does anybody test ubuntu in a Samsung np530 14' laptop?
[13:34] <zenithp0p> hello guys, i have a very big problem, i was copying a two .7z files from an external hd to my ubuntu and the power went off, and now i have spllited files, a portion on the external hd ad the rest on the ubuntu, what can i do?
[13:34] <ikonia> pfifo: for what ?
[13:35] <yant238> gvandeweyer: Presuming you've run fsck?
[13:35] <pfifo> ikonia, the unban
[13:35] <ikonia> I didn't do it, I assume one of the others did
[13:35] <pfifo> ikonia, is everything square then?
[13:35] <lorimar> hi there. i recently took over administration of a VERY old ubuntu server (5.04 hoary). apparently this server was created using lvm partitions and the root partition was given almost no space. we are planning on retiring this server in a few months, but i would like to add some more space to the root partition so we can continue using it until then.
[13:35] <bsidhipo> zenith: why is that a problem?  Just copy it again :-p
[13:36] <lorimar> there was extra space in the volume group that I've used to extend the root lvm partition, but now i need to resize the file system
[13:36] <Seveas> zenithp0p, when you mv a file, the old one does not get removed until the new one is done. At no point is part of the file removed because it was copied
[13:36] <gvandeweyer> yant238 : that's working right now
[13:36] <ikonia> pfifo: as long as you don't do silly lies again, I have zero issue
[13:36] <gvandeweyer> I'm already asking for possible follow up... :-)
[13:36] <lorimar> tried doing this: "resize2fs /dev/vol/root", but I get a message that "/dev/vol/root is mounted; can't resize a mounted filesystem!"
[13:36] <zenithp0p> Seveas: oh ok, so i guess that the external hd file is the one that is COMPLETE
[13:36] <yant238> gvandeweyer: If fsck can't fix it, you're probably fucked
[13:36] <bsidhipo> lorimar: you have to boot from another media.  try a live cd.
[13:37] <Quantum_Ion> hello guys, i have a very big problem, i was copying a two .7z files from an external hd to my ubuntu and the power went off, and now i have spllited files, a portion on the external hd ad the rest on the ubuntu, what can i do?
[13:37] <Seveas> lorimar, you need to use ext2online
[13:37] <gvandeweyer> yant238: ok, fingers crossed then
[13:37] <zenithp0p> Seveas: thank you
[13:37] <Seveas> zenithp0p, yeah
[13:37] <gvandeweyer> yant238: nice, fsck did fix it
[13:38] <lorimar> bsidhipo: that's what i was figuring. i had hoped there was a way to do it online
[13:38] <zenithp0p> another little question, wich version of ubuntu has a kernel that does not experiment regressions?
[13:39] <lorimar> Seveas: don't think that is installed on here and the hoary repos don't appear to be online anymore
[13:39] <thedonvaughn> zenithp0p: ?
[13:39] <Seveas> lorimar, old-releases.ubuntu.com
[13:41] <Seveas> lorimar, http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/e/e2fsprogs/e2fsprogs_1.35-8ubuntu2_i386.deb seems to be the one for i386
[13:41] <zenithp0p> thedonvaughn: last kernels are known to cause power regressions, which means to incorrectly administer your battery. i know that some older kernels don't cause this problem, but i don't know which ones
[13:41] <Seveas> it's from march '05
[13:42] <luqq> hi
[13:42] <luqq> small question- Is there any way to run a script after all initscripts have finished?
[13:42] <bsidhipo> luqq: rc.local
[13:43] <luqq> i'm trying to start XBMC standalone which starts its own x server
[13:43] <luqq> oh
[13:43] <luqq> lets see
[13:43] <zenithp0p> anyone any clue about the kernel regressions?
[13:44] <luqq> holy smokes bsidhipo
[13:44] <luqq> its doing EXACTLY what i wanted
[13:44] <luqq> thanks a bunch!
[13:45] <bsidhipo> linux does exactly what you want ... imagine that :-)
[13:46] <yant238> zenithp0p: What specifically about them? The kernel experiences regressions, but Ubuntu doesn't usually introduce major new versions of the kernel in a Ubuntu release
[13:47] <smcgrath> #pos
[13:48] <lorimar> Seveas: looks like i was able to install this, but i'm not certain it contained ext2online
[13:48] <bsidhipo> zenithp0p: arent' there other tweaks you can do to conserve power on laptops?  things like spinning down drives, mount with noatime, nodiratime, etc?  are you doing all this already besides worrying about kernel's pcie power mode?
[13:48] <Avorntur> sacarlson: I meant not having to do "loadkeys dvorak" again after rebooting, I know it's possible because it works the way I want when I choose dvorak during installation
[13:49] <Avorntur> sacarlson: I just don't want to reinstall the OS on this machine
[13:49] <lorimar> Seveas: think i'm going to have to go with an offline resize afterall
[13:50] <bsidhipo> avorntur: "dpkg-reconfigure"
[13:50] <thoreauputic> Seveas: Good lord, you're still here! Hello...
[13:51] <thedonvaughn> zenithp0p: from what i understand the 3.3 patches that fixed the power regression has been backported to the newest kernels
[13:54] <Avorntur> bsidhipo: Thank you, dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration seemed to do what I wanted
[13:55] <bsidhipo> avorntur: welcome.  ubuntu leaves out a lot of dpkg configurations during package installation.  i suppose it makes sense for the target users
[13:56] <amigamia> morning
[13:56] <amigamia> i installed lamp and lastnight i was able to ssh into the server but this morning after restarting the server it wont let me ssh into it it is refusing me any reason why?
[13:58] <bsidhipo> amigamia: lots of reasons.  what have you done to troubleshoot?  is the server actually running (and not waiting at the prompt for disk check, for example)?  is it in runlevel3?  is openssh-server installed?  is ssh daemon running?
[13:58] <amigamia> it's next to me but let me check everything you just said. as far as daemon running anyway. brb thanks
[13:58] <jrib> bsidhipo, amigamia: note default runlevel is 2 on ubuntu
[13:58] <fidel> amigamia: can you access that service pysically?
[13:58] <fidel> *server*
[14:00] <amigamia> fidel yes it is next to me on a server
[14:01] <bsidhipo> amigamia: if the server is on dhcp it might have been given a different IP ... check
[14:01] <amigamia> i just checked and ssh-agent process is running. i built this lastnight and i was ssh'd into  to install cURL last night. Ip hasnt changed. let me reboot it brb thanks.
[14:01] <Metaphysicist> Hi guys, I have the SmartMonTools Script from the Ubuntu Community Page, you can see the code here: http://pastebin.com/h7S6y2RK - I am getting arithmetic errors on lines 29 and 31. Not sure where the error lies?
[14:02] <bsidhipo> amigamia: in the words of No 2, "we want information!"
[14:02] <amigamia> ok i am reb ootin it now.
[14:02] <Guest56671> hello
[14:02] <_Marcus> Hi Guest56671
[14:02] <mouse> What command do I use in the terminal to invoke key press events?
[14:03] <_Marcus> amigamia: So you checked the IP and it's still the same one that is forwarded, right?
[14:03] <bsidhipo> mouse: for what purpose?
[14:03] <amigamia> marcus yes i just rebooted and it has the correct ip or same ip address from lastnight.
[14:04] <amigamia> let me try now
[14:04] <bsidhipo> amigamia: does the SSH client say "connection refused" or does it just not connect successfully for other reasons?  (if so, try "ssh -v" to find out why)
[14:04] <amigamia> ssh: connect to host 192.168.1.15 port 22: Connection refused
[14:04] <Metaphysicist> D/Ced there, anyone have any ideas?
[14:04] <amigamia> ok thanks
[14:04] <bsidhipo> amigamia: then there's nothing listening on 192.168.1.15 on port 22
[14:05] <bsidhipo> amigamia: (or there might be firewall)
[14:05] <mwaters> can you ping the server???
[14:05] <usr13> amigamia: Run nmap against it and see.
[14:05] <amigamia> i can access apache on the server via url
[14:05] <amigamia> thanks
[14:05] <usr13> amigamia: nmap -p 22 192.168.1.15
[14:05] <thoreauputic> amigamia: try 'pgrep sshd' on the server if you have keyboard access
[14:06] <amigamia> ok thanks
[14:06] <mouse> bsidhipo, I have a mouse with extra buttons and imwheel is kinda buggy so I'm just going to write a series of scripts for each button and make it so those are called when I press the extra mouse buttons.
[14:06] <thoreauputic> amigamia: See if sshd is running in other words
[14:06] <bsidhipo> amigamia: on the server, "ps axfuw | grep sshd"
[14:06] <amigamia> ok pgrep sshd on returned to the bash shell
[14:06] <amigamia> jsut a sec thanks
[14:07] <thoreauputic> amigamia: Sounds like sshd is not running
[14:07] <Metaphysicist> The smartmontools script at the bottom of this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Smartmontools is yielding arithmetic errors on lines 29 and 31. Anyone have any idea as to why? Running this on Ubuntu 11.10.
[14:07] <thoreauputic> amigamia: Try sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start
[14:08] <It_2927> I <3 sudo commands
[14:08] <usr13> amigamia: or,  sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[14:08] <jeroth1> sudo commands <3 typos
[14:08] <Jeeves_Moss> is there a way to get a Windows DNS server to sync with Bind?  I currently have a Bind9 cluster, and I have to roll over to Windows (ugh), and I'm lazy.  I don't want to have to retype all the zones
[14:08] <bsidhipo> mouse: well, X has a native feature for that.  try "xbindkeys"
[14:09] <It_2927> dpkg -i youtube
[14:09] <thoreauputic> usr13: She/he could log in yesterday so...
[14:09] <It_2927> Lmao
[14:09] <amigamia> ps axfuw | grep sshd returned info but i dont know what the fields represent i have to insall a irc cleint on that server brb thanks
[14:09] <amigamia> brb in a minute
[14:09] <It_2927> i forgot, it only works on the debian channel
[14:09] <mouse> bsidhipo, Okay thanks.
[14:09] <IronSight> is ocelot 11.10?
[14:10] <Metaphysicist> Anyone familiar with shell scripting able to help me?
[14:10] <bsidhipo> jeeves_moss: you can configure bind to allow AXFR and from windows, initiate a zone transfer
[14:10] <usr13> amigamia: You can test by trying to initiate an ssh session into it'self.  Just ssh to it's own IP address and see if it connects to itself.
[14:10] <IronSight> Metaphysicist, you should head over to #bash for that
[14:10] <Metaphysicist> Thank ya
[14:10] <IronSight> np
[14:11] <usr13> amigamia: If it does connect via ssh to itself, then you know for sure that something is blocking it on the network.
[14:12] <bsidhipo> amigamia: on the server side, "iptables -L -nv" see if there is any rules beside default accept all
[14:12] <amigamia> ok usr13 let me check that
[14:12] <amigamia> ok thnanks i am trying local ssh and then with another laptop brb and thank you all so much
[14:13] <IronSight> Metaphysicist, there is also a good book called "Linux Shell Scripting with Bash" you might want to find if you need it for work or something
[14:13] <bsidhipo> metaphysicist: what about?
[14:13] <usr13> If it does not connect to itself, look and see if it is set to listen on another port:  grep Port /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[14:13] <bsidhipo> usr13: kinda doubtful, that (different port)
[14:14] <asnt> hi y'all… I'm having a little problem here — mah ubuntu ain't makin no noise! any thoughts?
[14:14] <amigamia> yes something is blocking it becasue i cant ssh locally on the server.
[14:14] <Metaphysicist> The smartmontools script at the bottom of this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Smartmontools is yielding arithmetic errors on lines 29 and 31. Anyone have any idea as to why? Running this on Ubuntu 11.10.
[14:14] <amigamia> brb telephone call.
[14:14] <thoreauputic> amigamia: Did you try restarting sshd ?
[14:14]  * thoreauputic thinks it is likely not running
[14:14] <amigamia> i rebooted the server thoreauputic
[14:15] <bsidhipo> amigamia: stop rebooting linux ... think first
[14:15] <amigamia> it would restart on reboot shouldnt it?
[14:15] <thoreauputic> amigamia: But do you have sshd starting by default? Maybe not?
[14:15] <amigamia> bsidhipo i know it's not required but i still have windows thoughts in my mind sometimes :)
[14:15] <thoreauputic> amigamia: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start
[14:16] <usr13> sudo iptables -L   #Look for an iptables rule that may be blocking port 22
[14:16] <IronSight> I don't deal with smart stuff :/
[14:16] <bsidhipo> amigamia: i have to leave soon.  work with me here.  on the server machine, you "ssh -v localhost"?  did that work?
[14:16] <amigamia> i just installed open-ssh server
[14:16] <amigamia> it's installing now.
[14:16] <IronSight> I do hard drive checks in windows with premade software ^_^
[14:16] <thoreauputic> Heheh
[14:16] <amigamia> but i was in it lastnight so i dont understand
[14:16] <usr13> I don't either
[14:17] <pzn> I have problems (mouse pointer corrupted for example) when I connect 2 screens in my notebook. how can I disable all 3d/visual effects in ubuntu 11.10 to try to see if that fixes the problem?
[14:17] <amigamia> it's workign now :)
[14:17] <usr13> amigamia: How is it you could connect via ssh locally when openssh-server was not installed?
[14:17] <thoreauputic> amigamia: Cosmic rays ;-)
[14:17] <bsidhipo> pzn: better to use software cursors instead of hardware cursors
[14:17] <pzn> bsidhipo, how can I configure that?
[14:18] <amigamia> that is so freaked out :)
[14:18] <amigamia> that is just so freaked out. i don't understand :D
[14:18] <usr13> amigamia: Ok, well it's mystery.  But all is well that ends well.
[14:19] <bsidhipo> pzn: that depends on which X driver you're running .. consult its manpage for the option to disable hardware cursors
[14:19] <amigamia> yes thanks to all i really appreciate it :D
[14:19] <usr13> NP
[14:19] <bsidhipo> pzn: hardware cursors tend to behave badly (corruptions, etc.) under X (that i've seen)
[14:19] <passer> ola
[14:20] <passer> ¿hay alguien?
[14:20] <thoreauputic> passer:  /join #ubuntu-es
[14:20] <passer> ollllllllllllllllllaaaaaaaaaaaa
[14:20] <mneptok> !es | passer
[14:20] <mneptok> passer: Ingles solamente.
[14:21] <passer> hello
[14:21] <_Marcus> Hello passer
[14:21] <passer> what your name?
[14:21] <mneptok> !ot
[14:22] <mneptok> passer: ayude en Igles solamente aqui, pf
[14:22] <mneptok> *ayuda
[14:22] <passer> how old are you?
[14:22] <bsidhipo> passer: you want to cam me?
[14:22] <mneptok> passer: AYUDA SOLAMENTE
[14:22] <_Marcus> passer: My name is Marcus, as if it's not obvious, and this is the Ubuntu support channel. Go to #ubuntu-offtopic for questions like that.
[14:26] <chad_> Hi… is there anyone around that can help me work out a wifi setup issue on a laptop I just received?
[14:26] <MonkeyDu1t> !wifi| chad_ start here
[14:26] <chad_> Yeah, I have
[14:26] <bsidhipo> chad: and ... what's the problem?
[14:26] <passer> sorry i am spanish
[14:26] <bazhang> chad_, what chipset, what version of ubuntu, what drivers installed and from where
[14:26] <chad_> I read the wifi docs, my chipset apparently works but s problems
[14:27] <passer> silly
[14:27] <chad_> Ubuntu 11.10, Broadcom BCM43224 [14e4:4353]
[14:27] <bazhang> passer, english ubuntu support only /join #ubuntu-es as we have told you
[14:27] <passer> hello chad
[14:27] <chad_> hi passer
[14:27] <metap0d> Hi everyone, how do I install libreoffice headless on ubuntu server 11.10? I can't find the correct package name on the internet : /
[14:27] <passer> how are you
[14:27] <bazhang> passer, please stop
[14:28] <MonkeyDust> !ot| passer
[14:28] <AlexKaluzhny>  ondraorg, are you still having connection issues with wiki?
[14:28] <chad_> Anyone have any experience w/ that chipset?
[14:28] <MonkeyDust> chad_  BCM43 has its own help pages
[14:28] <bsidhipo> chad: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43
[14:28] <bazhang> chad_, check the broadcom factoid
[14:28] <passer> good-looking
[14:28] <chad_> Yup, I went through that =\
[14:29] <Amoug> What is the use of nosuid mount option if one is already mounting with noexec ? From a security perspective
[14:29] <|ntegra|> chad I just googled that and at the fedoraforums there are two [solved] threads??
[14:29] <chad_> I'm frankly annoyed that this notebook is "ubuntu certified"… I thought I knew what that meant. =\
[14:29] <mneptok> chad_: purchased from what OEM?
[14:29] <chad_> Yeah, I went through the fedora forums suggestions too. ugh
[14:29] <chad_> HP
[14:29] <|ntegra|> oh grief
[14:29] <mneptok> chad_: HP does not sell laptops with Ubuntu pre-installed.
[14:30] <_Marcus> They don't? :(
[14:30] <mwaters> chad_, check out http://sqizit.bartletts.id.au/2012/02/06/again-broadcom-wireless-bcm43224-ubuntu/
[14:30] <chad_> It wasn't preinstalled, it's just listed as "Ubuntu certified"
[14:30] <Younder> Does anyone?
[14:30] <mneptok> chad_: therefore, their products are not certified for Ubuntu
[14:30] <_Marcus> Younder: I've seen it before
[14:30] <Younder> I've always installed on Dozer
[14:30] <jpds> chad_: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/test-suite
[14:30] <mneptok> chad_: listed by *whom* as certified?
[14:30] <_Marcus> chad_: Did you buy it from HP directly? Or from a store and HP made the laptop
[14:31] <bsidhipo> HP certifies a lot of stuff :-)  doesn't mean it works nicely.  their blade chassis and the newer G6 i think produces kernel MCE messages "cpu temp over limit, clock throttled" in a small percentage of our cluster
[14:31] <passer> whore
[14:31] <chad_> mneptok: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201101-6954
[14:31] <AlexKaluzhny> ondraorg, are you there?
[14:31] <chad_> that's what mislead me
[14:31] <passer> whore
[14:32] <Younder> There isn't a single company in Norway that will give me a Linux box!
[14:32] <mneptok> chad_: but .... you did not buy the exact model on that certification page.
[14:32] <Younder> Not one
[14:32] <_Marcus> Younder: This is your chance to make some money then :P
[14:32] <mneptok> chad_: that page says quite clearly that the tested wireless chipset was Intel, not Broadcom.
[14:32] <chad_> Yeah, you're right, mneptok. Now that you mention it.  Heh.. I didn't buy anything.
[14:32] <chad_> Yeah, I re-read it just now, you're right. Sorry.
[14:32] <Younder> There used to be power-teck
[14:32] <chad_> Well anyway, I'm still annoyed about the wireless, not the certification status
[14:32] <chad_> .
[14:32] <bsidhipo> chad: if you must, swap out the mini-pcie with another one that's intel-based :-)
[14:33] <chad_> Yeah, or just not install linux on this machine and use it as a paperweight
[14:33] <asnt> Hi… sound isn't working for me… any thoughts?
[14:33] <chad_> which is what it was before I started trying
[14:33] <mneptok> chad_: the Restricted Drivers app did not offer to install anything?
[14:33] <_Marcus> asnt: Built in sound? Or headphones?
[14:33] <Younder> _Marcus, ahh You mean I should do it.. Well I just might!
[14:33] <asnt> _Marcus: a speaker, playing through a sound card
[14:33] <chad_> mneptok: the restricted driver (STA) installed without a hitch
[14:33] <usr13> asnt: See that volume is turned up.
[14:33] <chad_> But it doesn't work
[14:34] <_Marcus> asnt: Sound card? Is there any drivers needed for it from the manufactorer?
[14:34] <bsidhipo> asnt: obvious check like plugged into linux out / headphone instead of mic in ?
[14:34] <chad_> I can see SSIDs listed
[14:34] <bsidhipo> uh, *LINE* out
[14:34] <mneptok> chad_: make sure there is not a hardware switch on the machine that kills the wireless.
[14:34] <asnt> usr13 actually that was the first thing I checked :D
[14:34] <Younder> _Marcus, I love linux systems, and they love me;)
[14:34] <usr13> asnt: alsamixer  ?
[14:34] <bsidhipo> darn muscle memory
[14:34] <chad_> If I touch the hardware switch, the list of networks goes away
[14:34] <_Marcus> Younder: :P
[14:34] <chad_> but regardless of it's state I can't connect
[14:34] <MonkeyDust> asnt  in a Terminal, type alsamixer, if you see MM, go there and press m
[14:34] <mneptok> chad_: to anything? or just one of them?
[14:34] <_Marcus> anst: Did you check for drivers it might need?
[14:35] <mwaters> chad_, you have to load the kernel module manually after installing the Broadcom package
[14:35] <asnt> MonkeyDust: didn't change anything…
[14:35] <mneptok> mwaters: if SSIDs are visible, the module is loaded.
[14:35] <jpds> chad_: You need to revise your defination of "doesn't work". ;-)
[14:35] <gray_fox893> asnt: what soundcard are you using?
[14:35] <bsidhipo> bbl, work
[14:36] <asnt> bsidhipo: it's plugged into the green port. I think that's the right one for output…
[14:36] <chad_> jpds: I'm not entirely sure what's happening, tbh
[14:36] <mwaters> mneptok, k
[14:36] <asnt> gray_fox893: Creative Audio Sound Blaster Audigy SE
[14:36] <usr13> asnt: (run  alsamixer see that the audo device is correctly shown in upper left portion of window  and see if anything is muted or if volume is turned down) Then check to see if your speakers are plugged into correct port.
[14:36] <chad_> looking at ubuntu's wifi menu, I see my network ssid listed as the connected network after I select it
[14:36] <chad_> but then after a few seconds to a minute it says it's disconnected
[14:36] <usr13> asnt: Play audio while plugging into other ports.
[14:37] <jpds> chad_: Right, so it is 'working', check the logs under /var/log/syslog .
[14:37] <asnt> usr13: looks all right (correct card and chip listed, nothing muted except 'CAPTURE')
[14:37] <usr13> asnt: Is this a laptop?
[14:37] <interwebz> :)
[14:37] <asnt> usr13: nope.
[14:38] <usr13> asnt: Maybe you have a bad sound card.
[14:38] <chad_> jpds: I see a ton of messages about cfg80211 updating information about frequencies
[14:39] <asnt> usr13: hmm. perhaps, I suppose… I bet it's just misconfigured though. I tried all the ports (including the onboard sound, which I've never used) and none of them worked
[14:39] <chad_> I also see it say "Registering newaddress record for <my mac address> on wlan0.* "
[14:39] <usr13> asnt: Maybe you have a bad set of speakers.
[14:40] <_Marcus> anst: That's the LAST thing you should say
[14:40] <asnt> usr13: well the speakers work fine with a different computer and with my ipod, so…
[14:40] <usr13> asnt: (Maybe the amp on the speaker set is out).
[14:40] <asnt> usr13: well actually the *speaker
[14:40] <chad_> jpds: followed instantly by "CTRL-EVENT-DISCONNECTED bssid=00:00:00:00:00:00 reason=3"
[14:40] <amigamia> what command do i use to stop mysql?
[14:40] <jpds> chad_: Now: tail -f /var/log/syslog
[14:40] <It_2927> trolling
[14:40] <It_2927> is
[14:40] <It_2927> fun
[14:40] <usr13> asnt: Oh?  it's only one?
[14:40] <_Marcus> asnt: So it's not working on this computer only?
[14:40] <amigamia> stop mysqld?
[14:40] <Hans_Henrik> i tried to upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 using only vnc and ssh... after everything went seemingly good, and it restarted, vnc wont start at all.
[14:40] <Hans_Henrik> (vnc serv)
[14:40] <asnt> usr13: it doesn't have an amp, it's just a thing that I hacked together out of a broken pair of headphones and a stereo speaker from the dump
[14:41] <jpds> chad_: And watch the logs for when it disconnects, work from there.
[14:41] <asnt> usr13: it works fine with my ipod and another computer, so I don't think it's the speaker
[14:41] <usr13> asnt: When you had alsamixer  open, did you see  MM  at the bottom of any of the channel indicators?
[14:41] <usr13> asnt: (particularly Master).
[14:41] <compdoc> Hans_Henrik, do you have access to the machine?
[14:42] <Hans_Henrik> compdoc: via ssh only.
[14:42] <usr13> asnt: (particularly Master or PCM).
[14:42] <asnt> usr13: I did on the master one but I hit 'm' like MonkeyDust suggested, and it changed to OO, but still no cigar
[14:42] <Hans_Henrik> compdoc: i dont have any physical access to it
[14:42] <mjz> hello
[14:42] <_Marcus> Hello mjz
[14:43] <usr13> asnt: How about PCM ?   No   MM  at the bottom?  And it's turned up?
[14:43] <compdoc> Hans_Henrik, well, thats something at least. which vnc server is it? I only use vnc4server, so I cant help with others
[14:43] <maxagaz> hi
[14:43] <usr13> asnt: If  you saw  MM  at the bottom, it was indeed muted at the time.
[14:43] <maxagaz> what is beteen unhealthy and moderate for pollution ?
[14:43] <maxagaz> betwen
[14:43] <maxagaz> between
[14:43] <maxagaz> sorry
[14:43] <jpds> !offtopic | maxagaz
[14:44] <bazhang> maxagaz, how does that relate to ubuntu
[14:44] <asnt> usr13: I don't see PCM. on Master, it was muted then, but I unmuted it (so no MM) and it's still not working.
[14:44] <gorski> flashplugin broke on 10.04 after todays upgrade!!!!
[14:44] <chad_> jpds: any idea why DHCP would time out only for this laptop?  I have a windows laptop, two macs, two android tablets, and four smart phones that have no trouble with the router
[14:44] <_Marcus> maxagaz: That's offtopic and don't use enter for every word
[14:44] <jpds> chad_: No.
[14:44] <Hans_Henrik> i have tried: apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop;apt-get install ubuntu-desktop; x11vnc -passwd "lala" and x11vnc just says 29/03/2012 14:43:37 *** XOpenDisplay failed (:0) //blabla cant open display
[14:44] <usr13> asnt: Use the right arrow to move to chanels that are not shown in the window.
[14:44] <MonkeyDust> asnt  in a Terminal, type alsamixer|pastebin and paste the url here
[14:44] <_Marcus> chad_: The hardware?
[14:44] <maxagaz> ok, sorry for that
[14:45] <chad_> ugh
[14:45] <chad_> _Marcus: ?
[14:45] <MonkeyDust> asnt  correction : in a Terminal, type alsamixer|pastebinit and paste the url here
[14:45] <amigamia> under ubuntu is there a mysqld server?
[14:45] <usr13> amigamia: sure
[14:45] <_Marcus> chad_: The hardware could be bad, seeing how everything else works fine but not that machine
[14:45] <asnt> usr13: I did. I got Master, S/PDIF, S/PDIF C, S/PDIF F, S/PDIF R, S/PDIF U, Analog C, Analog F, Analog R, Analog S, CAPTURE
[14:45] <_Marcus> amigamia: If you install it there is
[14:46] <Pici> amigamia: still trying to stop it? sudo service mysql stop
[14:46] <linelevel> Hi guys. I'm having a strange problem with a bash script I wrote to set my cpu fan speed. Here is the 3-line script: http://pastebin.com/B4kj8HEY . When I type those 3 lines manually (replacing $1 with the level I want), the fan speed stays at whatever I set it to. But when I run the script, it works temporarily, but my computer soon sets its own fan speed again automatically. Any ideas?
[14:46] <chad_> _Marcus: the hardware worked under windows, so I don't think it's a physical problem.
[14:46] <MonkeyDust> linelevel  better ask in #bash
[14:46] <usr13> asnt: Find PCM and see that it is not muted or turned down.
[14:46] <asnt> MonkeyDust: one second…
[14:47] <_Marcus> linelevel: Could it be possible that the operating system or even the hardware itself is changing the settings?
[14:47] <asnt> usr13: it wasn't there. I listed all the channels that were shown, and all the channels that appeared when I arrowed to the right.
[14:47] <escott> linelevel, rather than having sudos in a script like that you can just chown it to root and mark it setuid
[14:48] <usr13> asnt: What is the sound chip?
[14:49] <asnt> usr13: CA0106
[14:49] <pestilence> what's the fix for the broken flash update today
[14:49] <Hans_Henrik> compdoc: well idk whats the difference since 10.10 but when i added "-auth guess" to startup parameter, x11vnc serv started normally ^^
[14:49] <bigkitty> why i cannot install git on ubuntu?
[14:49] <gnuskool> what would be a reasonable amount to pay for the install of a ubuntu server for 10 people - just for mail and file sharing and the fundamental basics?
[14:49] <asnt> MonkeyDust: the pastebinit command is still running…
[14:49] <_Marcus> bigkitty: You can
[14:49] <bigkitty> hi
[14:49] <chad_> heh this blows
[14:49] <compdoc> Hans_Henrik, so its working?
[14:49] <linelevel> escott: I've read that you shouldn't use setuid due to security holes. In any case, what is the advantage over what I did?
[14:49] <_Marcus> bigkitty: sudo apt-get install git
[14:50] <bigkitty> nobody here?
[14:50] <MonkeyDust> asnt  then you did something wrong, pastebinit creates an url
[14:50] <_Marcus> bigkitty: I just told you something...
[14:50] <escott> linelevel, you should be careful with setuid, but if you have a script that takes no arguments and you set the permissions to 755 or lower that is perfectly safe
[14:50] <amigamia> how can i verify that mysql is even installed?
[14:50] <asnt> MonkeyDust I'll run it again…
[14:51] <Hans_Henrik> compdoc: yup. i read the last comment here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1885994 and then tried -auth /home/hanshenrik/.Xauthority and it did not work, but it said "new in version 0.99: -auth guess will" blabla ^^
[14:51] <linelevel> escott: My script does take one arg.
[14:51] <_Marcus> amigamia: Type sudo service mysql
[14:51] <Hans_Henrik> compdoc: (so now it works, my problem is solved)
[14:51] <MonkeyDust> amigamia  maybe you coud first learn the ubuntu basics and then try more advanced stuff
[14:51] <linelevel> escott: Even if it's safe, my way is safe too, right? So what's the advantage of setuid?
[14:51] <_Marcus> amigamia: Did it say "mysql: unrecognized service
[14:51] <_Marcus> "
[14:51] <MonkeyDust> could*
[14:51] <gnuskool> is there any benefit setting up a mail server if  your isp already does that for you?
[14:52] <amigamia> monkeydust i have been using ubuntu since hoary
[14:52] <escott> linelevel, ok you should test that argument and make sure it is a valid number before submitting it to tee then
[14:52] <usr13> asnt: lsmod |grep ca0106  #What does that tell you?
[14:52] <chad_> OK, well thanks for the help guys.  I appreciate your trying.
[14:52] <ikonia> gnuskool: not really and a lot of ISP's don't like you trying to run your own mail services for security/spam reasons
[14:52] <amigamia> i would prefer monkeydust you don't say anything to me please.
[14:52] <usr13> asnt: What version of Ubuntu do you have installed?
[14:52] <_Marcus> amigamia: Then you shouldn't except help from him either
[14:52] <linelevel> escott: First I just want to get this script working. Then I'll worry about making it better :)
[14:52] <llutz> escott: you cannot set suid-root scripts
[14:53] <MonkeyDust> amigamia  _Marcus what's up?
[14:53] <mneptok> amigamia: the package info for MySQL will tell you if it's installed.
[14:53] <asnt> usr13: http://pastebin.com/AEKjdBgy
[14:53] <asnt> usr13: maverick
[14:53] <gnuskool> ikonia: not even just for it to download all your mail and save it locally inase of internet outtage?
[14:53] <amigamia> i dont want it marcus because he has never helped me and only said thinks like man or search google.
[14:53] <bigkitty> hi all
[14:53] <amigamia> anyway i am looking things up as i ususally do anyway
[14:53] <_Marcus> MonkeyDust: Nothing much, just sitting here at my computer on xChat like normal.
[14:53] <asnt> usr13: with all the updates, and some more
[14:53] <bigkitty> why i cannot install git on ubuntu?
[14:53] <ikonia> gnuskool: the headache of running a mail server for that reason and maintaining it secuirty wise and dealing with your ISP...is that really worth it
[14:54] <_Marcus> bigkitty: I told you. You can. Type sudo apt-get install git
[14:54] <ikonia> gnuskool: if you ISP goes down, what are you going to do with the mail anyway, you can't send mail, you ISP is down
[14:54] <mouse> What command do I use in the terminal to invoke key press events?
[14:54] <MonkeyDust> asnt  the outcome of 'alsamixer' should be more graphical-like, with vertical bars et al
[14:54] <bigkitty> _Marcus dude, apt-cache search git cannot find it
[14:55] <linelevel> _Marcus: Yes, the OS is changing the setting, but I'm not sure why it doesn't do that when I run those commands manually, only as part of a script.
[14:55] <usr13> asnt: Well, I don't know.  Do you see PCM in any other volume control?
[14:55] <_Marcus> bigkitty: Type "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install git"
[14:55] <asnt> MonkeyDust: um than what?
[14:55] <_Marcus> bigkitty: Disregard what apt-cache says
[14:55] <usr13> asnt: I see
[14:55] <asnt> usr13: nope. I saw no sign of it
[14:55] <linelevel> MonkeyDust: #bash sent me back here since the fan speed/modprobe issue isn't a pure bash scripting question.
[14:55] <usr13> asnt: I see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1816583
[14:56] <amigamia> something is wrong with this build i have to restart from scratch. thanks all
[14:56] <asnt> MonkeyDust: this is what's happening with the pastebinit issue.
[14:56] <asnt> MonkeyDust: http://image.bayimg.com/mangfaadk.jpg
[14:56] <ikonia> amigamia: what ?
[14:56] <ikonia> amigamia: what is the issue ?
[14:56] <usr13> asnt: But I don't think it is relevant to your situation.  (the sound card module is loading for your sound card, so....)
[14:57] <multiHYP> if I want to reject connection on specific ports I have to define it in the iptables? I thought whatever was not specified as ACCEPT was automatically rejected.
[14:57] <ikonia> multiHYP: depends if your default is allow or deny
[14:57] <asnt> usr13: yeah it looks like a different problem
[14:57] <asnt> usr13: :P
[14:57] <multiHYP> ikonia: what is my default?
[14:58] <asnt> is flash dead as of an update last night for anyone else?
[14:58] <usr13> asnt: But it appears you have others as well.  Not sure if all that stuff should be loaded.  Do you have only one sound card or sound chip?  Is it on-board or an add-on card?
[14:58] <ikonia> multiHYP: I thought it was allow on ubuntu, but I'm not sure, ufw sets it "open" by default I think
[14:58] <ikonia> asnt: does it matter if it's for anyone else ? why don't you just concentrate on fixing your problem
[14:58] <multiHYP> not using ufw, straight to iptables. so --flush makes everything allow?
[14:59] <asnt> usr13: I have an onboard chip as well, this is a card.
[14:59] <ikonia> multiHYP: ufw is there by default
[14:59] <_Marcus> ikonia: If ufw is enabled, everything is blocked by default.
[14:59] <ikonia> multiHYP: so adding direct with iptables may cause you some problems unless you disable it
[14:59] <ikonia> _Marcus: are you sure (I don't have it here to check)
[14:59] <usr13> asnt: Oh.  Is it working?  (The on-board one...)
[14:59] <multiHYP> i don't let ufw run
[14:59] <ikonia> multiHYP: then it should be open
[14:59] <asnt> usr13: nope.
[14:59] <multiHYP> ufw is not a working tool
[14:59] <asnt> usr13: not a peep
[15:00] <_Marcus> ikonia: Yeah. I remember because I had ufw enabled and I was thinking "why wont httpd work?" and I remembered I had to use "ufw allow 80" to open it
[15:00] <multiHYP> its a irritating and not properly working obscurity on top of iptables
[15:00] <usr13> asnt: Is there an option in bios to dissable the on-board one?  (If so, you might try dissabling it.  Could be some sort of conflict.)
[15:00] <multiHYP> there are major flaws in ufw, be careful. it gives you the illusion of working, but its not.
[15:00] <roasted> Unity Question - is there a way I can reorganize the way things appear in the lens? I'm curious if I can default Unity to show all of my apps a-z, so I don't have to open the lens, hit the apps icon in the bottom row, then hit "see 115 more results". Is there not a way to default that as the primary lens view?
[15:01] <bdi> If i own a domain abc.com and i dont have hosting anywhere, i just have the domain, how can i check mail sent to something@abc.com ?
[15:01] <asnt> usr13: I haven't been able to get into bios for a couple months. no idea why ;P
[15:01] <multiHYP> so changes made to iptables are additive? i.e. i block everything first and allow specifics in the lines below it?
[15:01] <_Marcus> bdi: By setting records in the domain's DNS.
[15:02] <Jeeves_Moss> what's the quick way of forcing replication of a newly added domain to slave servers?
[15:02] <asnt> usr13: so it's kind of a schrödinger's sound card situation I guess
[15:02] <ikonia> multiHYP: no, I believe iptables default to open with no rules
[15:02] <usr13> asnt: Just a thought.  Well, I suppose if I were you, I'd just grab another sound card.
[15:02] <ikonia> bdi: contact the people you bought the domain from to explain their setup/solution
[15:02] <multiHYP> yes, but how can i make it block everything and only allow specified things?
[15:02] <ikonia> multiHYP: create you allow rules, then do a block all
[15:03] <multiHYP> what is that block all rule, how is it defined? is it like : http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-iptables-4-block-all-incoming-traffic-but-allow-ssh.html
[15:03] <asnt> usr13: that would be an excellent idea if I a) had another or b) had some money to buy another. lol
[15:03] <ikonia> multiHYP: why don't you use ufw if you don't know how to use iptables
[15:03] <ikonia> multiHYP: you'll find it much easier as it's got a pretty straightforward usage
[15:03] <multiHYP> because ufw is a joke.
[15:03] <asnt> usr13: unfortunately neither is true… I guess I'll just live with it for now. I can test a live dvd too to see if that works for sound.
[15:04] <usr13> asnt: I have several, just come on by, i'll give you one.
[15:04] <ikonia> multiHYP: yet you can't use the more grown up tool, so maybe you should consider "using" the joke, if the serious tools is beyond you
[15:04] <multiHYP> ikonia: it fundtions or rather fails as easily as its to set up. (ufw)
[15:04] <escott> llutz, ahh thanks. didnt realize one had to write a wrapper
[15:04] <ikonia> multiHYP: it doesn't fail at all
[15:04] <multiHYP> ikonia: you seem to not be able to help me with iptables
[15:04] <ikonia> multiHYP: I can, I just suggest you use a tool thats easier
[15:04] <bazhang> multiHYP, #iptables
[15:04] <asnt> usr13: ok thx ^.^
[15:05] <ikonia> multiHYP: iptables support can be found in #netfilter
[15:05] <multiHYP> nah you can't mate
[15:05] <asnt> usr13: hehe
[15:05] <multiHYP> which one?
[15:05] <bazhang> multiHYP, one forwards to the other
[15:05] <ikonia> multiHYP: good luck in #netfilter,
[15:05] <multiHYP> yes
[15:05] <ikonia> multiHYP: well, if you don't think I know how to use iptables, that's your business, however it is stupid to assume I don't know how to use it because your pride is burnt
[15:05] <multiHYP> ok thanks
[15:05] <bazhang> multiHYP, welcome
[15:05] <asnt> is flash dead for anyone else as of last night's update?
[15:06] <bazhang> asnt and fixed subsequently with an update this afternoon
[15:06] <multiHYP> ikonia: no, i assume because you didn't answer my question. you kept telling me to use ufw
[15:06] <chad_> OK, so it looks like wpa_supplicant is having trouble authenticating with my router, does anyone have any debugging suggestions?
[15:06] <ikonia> multiHYP: I asked you once to consider using it, up to you
[15:07] <multiHYP> and that was not the answer to my question. yes, i keep using iptables until i learn it.
[15:07] <multiHYP> thanks
[15:07] <usr13> nufsaid
[15:07] <hi675445> hi
[15:08] <_Marcus> hi hi675445
[15:08] <chad_> Anyone?
[15:08] <hi675445> is there a way to rejuset cpu usege
[15:09] <chad_> Never mind… hm
[15:10] <Jeeves_Moss> is there an easy way to get bidirectional syncing of Windows DNS with Bind9?
[15:10] <qwafelfish> hey, i have problems with endian and some guys from the ##debian channel sent me to ##linux but ##linux is not working so now i am here 'cause ubuntu is also linux and maybe someone here can help me out
[15:10] <auronandace> chad_: solved it?
[15:11] <hsnmck> Hi, when I use grep "word" I see my word highlighted in red. I created a bash script that uses grep, but when I call this script my word is not highlighted, why? thx,
[15:12] <compdoc> qwafelfish, endian firewall?
[15:12] <qwafelfish> right compdoc
[15:12] <chad_> auronandace: nope
[15:12] <zykotick9> hsnmck: try adding --color=always
[15:12] <auronandace> qwafelfish: ##linux doesn't work? what do you mean? are you using a registered nick?
[15:12] <chad_> auronandace: just a dead end trying to figure this out
[15:13] <auronandace> chad_: oh, well you have only been here about 5 mins
[15:13] <qwafelfish> auronandace nope i'm not registered
[15:13] <auronandace> qwafelfish: you need a registered nick to talk in ##linux
[15:13] <chad_> auronandace: I was in here just before, I logged off to try something
[15:13] <|ntegra|> he's been here almost 50 minutes
[15:13] <chad_> auronandace: I'm debugging networking issues.
[15:13] <auronandace> chad_: ah, sorry
[15:13] <hsnmck> Thank you zykotick9, it works
[15:13] <qwafelfish> auronandace: okay, now you know why i am here! :D
[15:14] <Pici> qwafelfish: We only support Ubuntu here. Not any Linux distro.
[15:14] <|ntegra|> and he's getting next to no answers
[15:14] <sjohnson> hi guys.  a remote machine that has 10.04 LTS, but its package for tcl-dev is 8.4, and I want to update to 8.5 using apt-get.  Is this against the design of ubuntu?
[15:14] <Pici> qwafelfish: If you are having problems registering your account then you can ask in #freenode
[15:14] <usr13> chad_: Are you sure you have the right key?
[15:15] <compdoc> qwafelfish, I use efw
[15:15] <chad_> usr13: yes, certain
[15:15] <chad_> believe me..heh
[15:15] <roasted> Is there a way to rearrange the items of the unity lens? I really could care less for "recent items". I'd like it to default to showing me all of my apps at once.
[15:15] <Simooon> Hello, does anyone know how to install one of the still supported versions of ubuntu on an IGEPv2?
[15:15] <sjohnson> in other words, must I upgrade to the newest Ubuntu before trying to update certain packages?
[15:15] <qwafelfish> Pici: i don't want to register, i want help.
[15:15] <usr13> chad_: Are you sure your WiFi NIC is fully supported, (and capable of doing the type of encryption that the router uses)?
[15:16] <Pici> qwafelfish: You will not get any help for any distro besides Ubuntu here. Period.
[15:16] <auronandace> qwafelfish: to get help in ##linux you'd need to register, we don't support endian here
[15:16] <|ntegra|> good answer/question, turn off the encryption and check that first
[15:16] <usr13> chad_: You might try switching to another type of encryption.  Maybe wep ?
[15:16] <sjohnson> wep is useless as far as security goes, mind you
[15:17] <usr13> sjohnson: Oh really....
[15:17] <sjohnson> bigtime, it's very easy to get someone's web password
[15:18] <chad_> usr13: I use the same router for video streaming, I don't want to degrade the throughput..
[15:18] <chad_> I can try another standard but it'll only illuminate the issue, not solve it.  I'll try it though.
[15:18] <sjohnson> usr13: from wikipedia, "Although its name implies that it is as secure as a wired connection, WEP has been demonstrated to have numerous flaws and has been deprecated in favor of newer standards such as WPA2."
[15:18] <usr13> chad_: How about just turning off encryption all-to-gether?
[15:18] <qwafelfish> but ubuntu sounds like endian
[15:19] <auronandace> qwafelfish: but it isn't ubuntu
[15:19] <chad_> heh, again, it can determine if I'm having issues w/ the encryption but not fix the problem… I'm going to try it though
[15:19] <usr13> sjohnson: But your statement is wrong.  wep is not useless.
[15:20] <qwafelfish> auronandace that is what you think!
[15:20] <benzaldehyde> Chad I just got here.. What's wrong?
[15:20] <lana> mmortal-anime.net
[15:20] <|ntegra|> you're having trouble with a proprietary driver that needs to be compiled with some special options, (and with no previously installed/used kernel modules)
[15:20] <bazhang> lana, wrong channel
[15:21] <|ntegra|> (as far as I can see from the fedora guys with the same issue)
[15:21] <sjohnson> usr13:  what would be a good use for it in today's world, then?
[15:21] <qwafelfish>  
[15:21] <usr13> sjohnson: Your argument is irrelvant, drop it.
[15:21] <bazhang> sjohnson, usr13 lets move on
[15:21] <|ntegra|> http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=268067 this guy actually solves it
[15:21] <benzaldehyde> I use wep
[15:21] <Pici> !wep
[15:22] <usr13> Pici: wep is not totally insecure.  But as bazhang said MOVE ON
[15:23] <benzaldehyde> Lol okay..I love in Florida, my neighbors are all senior citizens and just use the web as an end user
[15:23] <benzaldehyde> Live I meant..excuse me
[15:23] <Pici> usr13: agreed.
[15:23] <rtdos> how do i change the default display manager from gdm to lxdm?
[15:25] <detch1> i am aweb developer i did      (sudo chmod -R 777 /opt/lampp/htdocs/myproject) but every folder i create it in this folder i must give it the permission     how can i stop this headache ?
[15:25] <auronandace> detch1: 777 is not a good idea
[15:26] <detch1> so, what is the good ideaa ?
[15:26] <detch1> every file and every folder not working
[15:27] <bazhang> detch1, why did you put that in /opt/
[15:27] <bazhang> detch1, is that really xampp?
[15:28] <usr13> rtdos: edit /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[15:29] <detch1> yes xampp but i ask about permissions not about xampp
[15:29] <Pici> rtdos: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm   will let give you a menu to change your display mananger.
[15:29] <bastidrazor> detch1: something about sticky bits.. maybe read up on them and you'll find the answer
[15:29] <bazhang> detch1, and we have told you many times that xampp is not supported here, and not to ask about it
[15:30] <bazhang> !lamp | detch1 read and follow this please
[15:31] <detch1> i faced the same problem in lampp and no one solve my problem      so i wanted to ask about permissons   do you want me to remove xampp and install lampp to give me advice about permissions ?
[15:32] <auronandace> !permissions | detch1
[15:33] <go8765>  hello. i have some problems with vlc. can i found help here? vlc dont play video :(  when i run it from terminal - i get this http://paste.ubuntu.com/905676/ can anybody help me wth this please?
[15:34] <bazhang> go8765, what version of ubuntu
[15:35] <go8765> bazhang: 11.10
[15:35] <bazhang> go8765, does video work with mplayer
[15:37] <go8765> bazhang: yes. only xine have the same pb
[15:37] <meerkats> how do I get rid of duplicated sources?
[15:37] <bazhang> meerkats, in sources.list?
[15:37] <meerkats> bazhang, is that a hidden file?
[15:38] <dr_willis>  /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:38] <bazhang>  /etc/apt/sources.list meerkats
[15:38] <meerkats> ok
[15:38] <bazhang> # comment them out
[15:38] <dr_willis> or /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ONE-file-per-added-repo
[15:38] <detch1> could any way to put 777 permisson to every folder i put it in my project folder ?
[15:38] <bazhang> detch1, stop asking for xampp help here
[15:38] <meerkats> do I get duplicated sources because I have installed redundant ppa's?
[15:39] <llutz> detch1: a. you don't want 777 b. you want to read about posix acl c. xampp isn't supported here
[15:39] <dr_willis> meerkats:  you could.
[15:39] <detch1> ummm   ok thank  yo
[15:39] <bazhang> meerkats, want to pastebin it?
[15:39] <meerkats> u, ok...
[15:40] <urz_25> hello
[15:40] <boehmer> i could need some help with xmodmap
[15:40] <urz_25> i'm new here
[15:40] <urz_25> some can help?
[15:40] <boehmer> i executed `xmodmap -e "keycode 91 = period"`
[15:40] <urz_25> some one
[15:40] <bazhang> urz_25, with what
[15:41] <auronandace> urz_25: you need to describe your problem
[15:41] <boehmer> to map the numpad comma on my german keyboard to a period for english OS
[15:41] <dr_willis> ask your question and see.
[15:41] <boehmer> unfortunately after running xmodmap the key is dead
[15:41] <FernandoCueva> when I turn on my computer I get a long list of input/output errores at some dev I want to know how can I see this log what file should I look
[15:41] <boehmer> i tried to map other events to that key but the key keeps being dead
[15:42] <boehmer> how can that be? what's wrong with `xmodmap -e "keycode 91 = period"`??
[15:42] <urz_25> #ubuntu-it-forum
[15:42] <go8765> bazhang: any ideas how fx vlc?
[15:43] <dr_willis> FernandoCueva:  'dmesg' may show similler errors.
[15:43] <bazhang> go8765, does it work with 3D turned off
[15:44] <urz_25> okei i will...how it's work?
[15:45] <urz_25> i have no idea how ubuntu works but i'm tirred with windows so...
[15:45] <urz_25> almos i understood but i have some problem
[15:45] <urz_25> first of all how can i open irc canal?
[15:46] <meerkats> bazhang, dr_willis http://paste.ubuntu.com/905784/
[15:46] <chad_> sheesh, still no luck
[15:46] <auronandace> urz_25: you are in an irc channel now
[15:46] <auronandace> urz_25: /join #nameofchannel
[15:46] <go8765> bazhang:i  think - yes. hоw l can check thls?
[15:46] <bazhang> !manual | urz_25 start here
[15:46] <urz_25> okei but i have no idea how i opened
[15:46] <urz_25> so
[15:47] <serdar_42123231> hello everyone!
[15:47] <auronandace> urz_25: some clients open #ubuntu by default
[15:47] <himsin> Hi, I am on ubuntu 10.10 64-bit. Whenever I load a jnlp file using java it runs terribly slow on my system. Is there any way to fix this?
[15:47] <urz_25> thank's
[15:47] <bazhang> !rute | urz_25 and this may help
[15:47] <meerkats> so what I should do is look for those redundat lines and choose one to delete in the apt/source.list file... bazhang ?
[15:47] <bazhang> meerkats, place a # in front to comment it out
[15:48] <auronandace> himsin: 10.10 will be end of life next month, youmay want to consider upgrading
[15:48] <dr_willis> meerkats:  most likely - yes.
[15:48] <serdar_42123231> Gogle's Chrome has user tracking mechanism. I will use SWRIron . But can someone tell me if Chromium browser has also user-tracking mechanism or not?
[15:48] <meerkats> dr_willis, ok
[15:49] <auronandace> serdar_42123231: chromium does not have tracking
[15:49] <himsin> ok
[15:50] <auronandace> himsin: i'm not sure about your java problem though, sorry
[15:50] <go8765> bazhang: sо hоw l can check thls?
[15:51] <FernandoCueva> I want to know if ubuntu gives input output errors at device sr0 when the machine loads with a blank dvd inside the drive or is just happening to me
[15:51] <himsin> auronandace, I don't like the GUI in ubuntu 11. Is there any way to switch to classic look as is present in 10?
[15:52] <dr_willis> !classic
[15:52] <himsin> !nounity
[15:53] <auronandace> himsin: gnome2 is no longer maintained, it would be better to consider an alternative like xfce or gnome3-fallback
[15:53] <urz_25> a
[15:53] <serdar_42123231> auronandace I read on some comments that It has the user tracking system too (like GOOGLE CHROME). but Iron has clean them... How can I be sure? :(
[15:53] <dr_willis> or learn how to tweak unity as you like.
[15:53] <auronandace> serdar_42123231: read the source code
[15:54] <chad_> OK, I've got a new development in my wifi issues and I'm hoping someone can help me figure out wth would be the culprit.
[15:54] <meerkats> bazhang, instead of that, im looking for each particular location (of the paste-binned list) and deleting it manually
[15:55] <joeb> When executing startup scripts at boot my system gives me errors for services such as: "Unable to chdir() to /home/user/.service (No such file or directory)" -- these directories do exist. Why can't these scripts see these folders at this time? Shouldn't the FS be mounted?
[15:55] <dr_willis> meerkats:  the sort and uniq command can help filter out things.. make backups of your original sources.list first
[15:56] <serdar_42123231> auronandace ... ok...
[15:56] <meerkats> I dont find any of those entries in the sources.list, thats why I moved to this option
[15:56] <dr_willis> joeb:  your user is using an encrypted home?
[15:56] <joeb> dr_willis: I don't believe so. This is inside a VM I setup. Let me check.
[15:56] <joeb> Actually, you are correct. It's piped through encrypt_fs
[15:57] <joeb> Is there a way to migrate out of an encrypted home directory?
[15:57] <joeb> Copy out the files when mounted and readable, change the fstab or such and then put them back?
[15:58]  * chad_ hangs his head in shame
[15:59] <chad_> I found my network issue.
[15:59]  * chad_ sighs
[15:59] <OneFix_Work> joeb: Yea, that's what I would do.  Tar the whole home directory, copy it to an unencrypted location, then remove the encryption from fstab
[15:59] <auronandace> !yay | chad_
[15:59] <Bubo> Hello. After today's update of Flash player, all the videos are tinted blue in youtube..(havent checked in video players)
[15:59] <chad_> I had a dhcp reservation for the laptop and typo-ed the machine name when I set it up
[15:59] <joeb> OneFix_Work: Not seeing a specific entry in fstab for /home/user but I think there's some tools
[15:59] <bourke> anyone have issues with the nautilus-dropbox package hanging on install?
[16:00] <chad_> So the router was choking when it saw the mac address but not the right name… apparently that matters to it
[16:00] <chad_> learn something new..
[16:00] <chad_> heh
[16:00] <zykotick9> Bubo: you probably need to change the VO device of gstreamer (sorry don't ask me how anymore)
[16:00] <bourke> It just prints "Dropbox is the easiest way to share and store..." and then does nothing
[16:00] <chad_> anyway, fixing the machine name got it back up
[16:00] <OneFix_Work> joeb: Try "rm ~/.encryptfs"
[16:00] <joeb> It's ecrypt-setup-private --undo
[16:01] <chad_> so annoying though hah
[16:01] <meerkats> unexpected problem: /de.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_oneiric_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages
[16:01] <zykotick9> Bubo: actually, sorry - my VO idea doesn't make sense for Flash
[16:02] <meerkats> sorry
[16:02] <Bubo> :/
[16:02] <meerkats> Failed to fetch cdrom://Ubuntu 11.10 _Oneiric Ocelot_ - Release i386 (20111012)/dists/oneiric/main/binary-i386/Packages  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[16:02] <dackyshawn> how secure is ssh? like if i was sshed in from my office could they actually see what I was doing?
[16:02] <Bubo> Hello. After today's update of Flash player, all the videos are tinted blue in youtube..(havent checked in video players) any idea how to fix the problem? I reinstalled the flash-player (DLed it from adobe site) still same
[16:02] <meerkats> the CD-ROM is a .iso copy ina  usb stick
[16:02] <dackyshawn> i mean short of them looking at my machine via VNC or something like that
[16:02] <dackyshawn> i assume the traffic itself is encrypted
[16:03] <Upl1nk> Hi everybody
[16:03] <escott> dackyshawn, if "they" control the hardware "they" can do whatever they want
[16:03] <meerkats> what do I have to write to add a ubuntu 11.10 iso copy in a usb to the repo?
[16:03] <compdoc> dackyshawn, dont think they can see even with vnc
[16:03] <mneptok> Bubo: http://www.youtube.com/html5
[16:03] <OneFix_Work> dackyshawn: It really depends on the protocol used too
[16:03] <dackyshawn> compdoc i mean if they vnced into my PC they could just see what  iw was typing
[16:03] <dackyshawn> isnt ssh the protocol?
[16:04] <OneFix_Work> dackyshawn: But, it also depends on who *THEY* are?
[16:04] <jslTBH> SSH network traffic is encrypted
[16:04] <dackyshawn> i see
[16:04] <jslTBH> all you have to do is verify that youre connecting to a machine with the right keys
[16:04] <Bubo> Hmm, I'll try html5
[16:04] <Bubo> also this happened after chrome AND flashplugin update
[16:04] <joeb> Thanks everyone for the help! Completely forgot I had encrypted my home directory. Fixed now.
[16:04] <compdoc> dackyshawn, ssh does not open a window on your desktop that someone can watch
[16:04] <unkr> hey can anyone help me   when ever i want to connect to the window 7 Access Point  (adhoc)  with ubuntu i m unable to connect to it   any suggestion ???
[16:05] <firas> no display manager appeares, after dist-upgrade 11.04 to 11.01
[16:05] <dackyshawn> compdoc if i use putty to remote to my home to execute commands or transfer files they could in theory vnc it'd be like looking over my shoulder
[16:05] <jslTBH> compdoc: Sure it does. If he has a terminal open and SSHs into a home machine, anyone with VNC to his desktop would see that terminal
[16:05] <firas> 11.10 i mean
[16:05] <escott> dackyshawn, i would not suggest sending top secret files out of the nsa on an nsa computer. ssh is not going to help much with that. but the boss at joes tractor supply and repair probably wont care
[16:05] <Guest80717> hey guys, tried to do an update yesterday/today and got this error in the terminal: Failed to fetch gzip:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precise_multiverse_source_Sources  Hash Sum mismatch
[16:05] <Guest80717> any help would be appreciated
[16:05] <dackyshawn> escott that's what i was curious about
[16:05] <dackyshawn> thanks
[16:05] <dackyshawn> lol
[16:05] <dackyshawn> not that that's what i'm doing
[16:05] <dackyshawn> i was just curious
[16:05] <FloodBot1> dackyshawn: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:05] <zykotick9> Guest80717: #ubuntu+1 for precise issues
[16:06] <dackyshawn> oops... my fault
[16:06] <Bubo> Ok html5 works.. I guess ill use it till there is a fix/update
[16:06] <compdoc> jslTBH, I thought dackyshawn was ssh'ing into a work PC
[16:06] <firas>  no display manager appeares, after dist-upgrade 11.04 to 11.10
[16:06] <Bubo> ty mneptok
[16:06] <Guest80717> thanks
[16:06] <dackyshawn> nah... sshing from work to home (which runs ubuntu server)
[16:06] <unkr> hey can anyone help me   when ever i want to connect to the window 7 Access Point  (adhoc)  with ubuntu i m unable to connect to it   any suggestion ???
[16:06] <firas>  no display manager appeares, after dist-upgrade 11.04 to 11.01
[16:07] <dackyshawn> i wanted to transfer a file with scp but didnt want it to go over my work's network in plain view
[16:07] <meerkats> help please, I need to add an .iso copy to my sources http://paste.ubuntu.com/905818/
[16:07] <meerkats> the unit is NTFS
[16:07] <dackyshawn> i'm transferring from home to work not other way around
[16:07] <escott> dackyshawn, from hardware you control to hardware you control ssh is as secure as you can get. from hardware you don't control it doesn't really matter because its hardware you dont control
[16:08] <firas>  no display manager appeares, after dist-upgrade 11.04 to 11.01
[16:08] <phpN00b> the scrollbar on Ubuntu 11.10 is very tiny compared to before. Is it possible to set it back the it was?
[16:08] <escott> dackyshawn, and uploading should be fine, but obviously what you upload is going onto the company computer and its their computer
[16:09] <jslTBH> could use an encrypted file container for that, luks or similar
[16:09] <firas>  no display manager appeares, after dist-upgrade 11.04 to 11.01
[16:09] <Pici> phpN00b: remove the overlay-scrollbar package.
[16:09] <dackyshawn> escott: in theory if someone were to send something friom a work PC over SCP to a remote PC tho they wouldnt be able to see that would they?
[16:09] <firas> guys? plz help
[16:09] <firas> please help
[16:09] <escott> dackyshawn, i think you are missing the point. if i send a file to you over a secure connection you will see the file i sent you
[16:10] <firas> i cant use ubuntu anymore
[16:10] <firas> i cant login to gnome
[16:10] <dackyshawn> oh an ssh question  unrelated to transfferring files... i have a user logged into my ssh server (under the same user account as me but different terminal session) is it possible to send a message to that terminal from my machine
[16:10] <Pici> firas: How did you upgrade?
[16:10] <dackyshawn> i was thinking using "wall" but i dont remember how to use it
[16:10] <firas> because i cant get gdm nor lightdm to work
[16:10] <Xabster> What the hell - skype keeps going unresponsive and I just had an xchat client running that disappeared (completely) except it was still a running process in the gnome-system-monitor - what's happening? if this was windows I would do a virus scan immediately
[16:11] <firas> apt-get dist-upgrade --fix-missing -f
[16:11] <Pici> firas: Thats not how you upgrade from one release of Ubuntu to the next.
[16:11] <Daekdroom> Xabster, did you try to minimize Xchat to the tray?
[16:11] <firas> i did it before and it worked
[16:12] <Xabster> Daekdroom, it was gone, i could not see it anywhere
[16:12] <Daekdroom> The tray no longer exists in the recent versions of Ubuntu, so you can't use XChat with it
[16:12] <Pici> firas: Just because it might have worked before does not mean that it is the supported way of upgrading.
[16:12] <Xabster> and skype is still open on my desktop even though I killed the process
[16:12] <firas> so what shall i do
[16:12] <Pici> firas: You should have used update-manager (or do-release upgrade if you prefer cli)
[16:12] <firas> ??
[16:12] <auronandace> Xabster: kill -9 skype
[16:12] <meerkats> if I make a livecd in a 8gb usb stick, will I still get to use it as a storage unit? I mean the remainder
[16:13] <firas> but unfortunately i didn't, can i get my ubuntu back to life?
[16:13] <Xabster> you mean the PID?
[16:13] <escott> dackyshawn, you can use write but im not sure how many people will understand or respond to that
[16:13] <Pici> firas: What does lsb_release -rs say?
[16:13] <auronandace> Xabster: or kill -9 pid, yes
[16:13] <escott> meerkats, the part that is not allocated for persistent storage yes
[16:13] <Xabster> kill -9 skype did not work
[16:13] <Xabster> but the pid did
[16:13] <firas> i don't know because i'm using another computer
[16:13] <zykotick9> auronandace: killall with process names
[16:14] <auronandace> Xabster: good stuff, skype might not be the name of the process
[16:14] <firas> that one only works with ctrl+alt+f2
[16:14] <meerkats> escott, filesystem doesnt play a part, does it? I can make a livecd for ubuntu in NTFS
[16:14] <Pici> firas: Okay, so do that and tell me what it says.
[16:14] <auronandace> zykotick9: ah, thanks
[16:14] <escott> meerkats, i think it has to be fat for the bios to not complain
[16:14] <Xabster> no it gave me a syntax error, Auron_Debian
[16:14] <meerkats> crap
[16:14] <Xabster> auronandace,
[16:14] <zykotick9> auronandace: also, FYI tab completion should work with killall
[16:14] <auronandace> Xabster: looks like process names only work with killall
[16:17] <marsfligth> Linus Torvalds opinion's about Gnome 3  http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/linus-torvalds-would-like-to-see-a-gnome-fork/9347 I agree with HIM at all
[16:17] <Daekdroom> !offtopic | marsfligth
[16:18] <auronandace> marsfligth: this is a support channel, use what desktop you want, nobody is forcing gnome3 on you
[16:18] <meerkats> unity is not that bad when you learn it, in my case its just buggy
[16:19] <Praxi> thats annoying, if the xscreensaver quits running my screen is no longer locked
[16:19] <ling> ls
[16:19] <Praxi> Is there  a log file for it or something so I can tell what happened?
[16:20] <firas> hi
[16:20] <axl_> how do i remove a file named ';' ?
[16:20] <firas> lsb_release -rs says 11.10
[16:20] <llutz> axl_: rm \;
[16:21] <axl_> awesome!
[16:21] <axl_> thanks
[16:21] <Rikeurai> Bonjour
[16:21] <firas> pici:  lsb_release -rs says 11.10
[16:21] <bazhang> Rikeurai, english here please french in #ubuntu-fr
[16:22] <firas> pici???
[16:22] <bazhang> firas, whats the issue
[16:23] <firas> when i installed 11.04 i chose automatic login with gdm
[16:23] <SubD> i'm trying to get into my share on ubuntu 10.04.4 wich I used to be able to do, but now I cant, all I get is this error http://pastebin.com/jvGbsp3D any one know what went wrong?
[16:23] <firas> when i (dist-upgrade)ed 11.04 to 11.10 i chose lightdm
[16:23] <firas> now neither lightdm nor gdm work
[16:24] <LmAt> How do I set up my ubuntu server to accept putty connections?
[16:24] <llutz> LmAt: install openssh-server
[16:24] <LmAt> llutz; thanks.
[16:25] <firas> bazhang?
[16:25] <linelevel> _Marcus, MonkeyDust, others who were helping me: Just thought you'd like to know that I figured out the problem with my script.  I reasoned that the only difference between running my script and running the commands manually is timing. I added a brief `sleep` between the `rmmod` and `modprobe` in the script and now it works. Still not sure why that's needed.
[16:25] <daftykins> SubD: can you ping the XBMC box?
[16:26] <firas> bazhang??
[16:26] <_Marcus> linelevel: Who knows ;)
[16:26] <firas> guys help??.....
[16:26] <bazhang> firas, whats the actual question
[16:26] <SubD> daftykins: yea, and I can putty to it, just cant access it's shares
[16:26] <_Marcus> linelevel: Besides, you know, the manufactorer
[16:26] <LmAt> in man pages, what does "(1)" mean?
[16:27] <daftykins> SubD: what's changed since it did work?
[16:27] <firas> bazhang, when i boot ubuntu i dont have a display manager.... so i cant do anything with this distro
[16:28] <bazhang> firas, so you use startx? what happened to lightdm?
[16:28] <SubD> daftykins: all I did was deleting a folder within a shared folder, and restarting, nothing else that I can think of
[16:28] <sipior> LmAt: it's a category number. (1) refers to executables. have a look at "man man" for more information.
[16:28] <LmAt> sipior; thanks!
[16:28] <firas> i don't know what's startx, i cant use lightdm nor gdm
[16:28] <daftykins> SubD: no upgrades recently?
[16:29] <firas> i don't know what happened
[16:29] <bazhang> firas, what happened to get to that state?
[16:29] <daftykins> SubD: is the share completely open for guest access or is it password locked?
[16:29] <firas> i used apt-get dist-upgrade --fix-missing -f for my 11.04
[16:29] <SubD> I did upgrade from 10.04 to 10.04.4, but that a little before the trouble
[16:30] <bazhang> firas, dist-upgrade does NOT change versions
[16:30] <patrunjel> Hi, do you know some software that does what YUMI does (that's allow you to install more than one os on one media, then lets you choose at boot time which one you want to boot) that works under linux?
[16:30] <_johnny> hi, i'm trying to set up auto-login with a user/pw account using lightdm, is that possible? is that what the whitelist is for?
[16:30] <firas> but (lsb_realese -rs) syas 11.10 so i guess it does
[16:30] <bazhang> patrunjel, grub2 you mean?
[16:31] <firas> bazhang, but (lsb_realese -rs) syas 11.10 so i guess it does
[16:31] <bazhang> firas, not unless you changed the sources.list manually
[16:31] <bazhang> !dist-upgrade | firas
[16:31] <SubD> daftykins: I did upgrade from 10.04 to 10.04.4, but that a little before the trouble, it should have password on it. I did ad a user to samba, and made a password to the XBMC access becouse of my android remote control
[16:31] <nitinab> patrunjel: almost all linux distrubutions at install time can identify if other operating systems are present, you only have to be careful about the partitioning of disks so you don't over write a prior os
[16:32] <patrunjel> bazhang, no, i meant, like, on a CD/pendrive on which you have ISOs of different flavours of linux
[16:32] <FernandoCueva> I just had an issue with brasero can someone aid me? while burning a dvd image I got POWER CALIBRATION AREA IS FULL input out  error what is most likely the cause?
[16:32] <firas> bazhang, ubottu, then how it says 11.10 when it was 11.04  before dist-upgrade?
[16:32] <bazhang> firas, you must have manually changed the sources.list .dist-upgrade does not do that otherwise
[16:33] <daftykins> SubD: did you configure the share via samba.conf ?
[16:33] <patrunjel> nitinab, sorry, i expressed myself wrong, i meant, that lets you put more than one distro's iso on some media (pendrive/dvd), like the startup disk creator, but it has to allow me to put more than one distro on the flash drive
[16:33] <firas> i didn't , i did apt-get update, if thats what you mean
[16:33] <nitinab> patrunjel: let me look that up
[16:34] <firas> bazhang: i didn't , i did apt-get update, if thats what you mean
[16:34] <auronandace> firas: did you also do: do-release-upgrade
[16:35] <firas> bazhang: no, i didn't
[16:35] <bazhang> firas, was that in response to auronandace ?
[16:35] <sacarlson> patrunjel: grub2 allows you to boot an iso file direct from a medium like I've seen up to 5 linux destro on one usb flash
[16:36] <SubD> daftykins: yes, I added this http://paste.ubuntu.com/905872/
[16:36] <sacarlson> patrunjel: but when booting from iso it's normaly only a temp session that is reset at each boot to a default
[16:36] <nitinab> patrunjel: you are looking for this? http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[16:37] <daftykins> SubD: ah ok that's a guest enabled share then. so no password config. run 'testparm' on that box via SSH. also, what Windows version is it trying to connect to that share?
[16:39] <SubD> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/905873/ i'm running win7
[16:39] <LmAt> I searched google for a while and only found a non-working solution.  How do I turn off gnome?
[16:39] <LmAt> It said to use service gdm restart, but gdm isn't a recognized service.
[16:39] <auronandace> LmAt: its lightdm in 11.10
[16:39] <LmAt> Auron_Debian; thanks.
[16:39] <daftykins> SubD: have you installed any Games for Windows Live recently? that sometimes breaks samba
[16:40] <firas> bazhang: yes, it was.
[16:40] <firas> bazhang, how can i get my distro back??
[16:40] <LmAt> auronandace; It calls itself a "symlink target for initscripts that have been converted to Upstart."  What does that mean?
[16:40] <sacarlson> lmat: I'm not sure it turns it off but you can <ctl><alt>f2  might get you out of an X sesion
[16:41] <SubD> daftykins: nope, all I have installed for some days is Comodo internet security
[16:41] <LmAt> sacarlson; I'm working over putty.
[16:41] <LmAt> sacarlson; I would like to make it not start up.
[16:41] <daftykins> SubD: ah well that could possibly be messing with things
[16:41] <hr_> i want to set PATH  that  eclipse will use - where can i set this
[16:41] <sacarlson> lmat: IC just boot like a server with no X sesion start a boot time
[16:42] <LmAt> sacarlson; how?
[16:42] <zykotick9> !text | LmAt
[16:42] <auronandace> LmAt: traditional initscripts are based on the sysv init system, upstart is a different init system
[16:42] <SubD> daftykins: I've used comodo for years, and never had any trouble with it :/
[16:42] <firas> bazhang: how can i get my ubuntu back??
[16:42] <LmAt> ubottu; Thanks!
[16:43] <LmAt> auronandace; oh...
[16:43] <sacarlson> LmAt: maybe like this http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/prevent-xorg-from-starting-in-ubuntu/
[16:43] <hr_> HEY i want to set PATH  that  eclipse will use - where can i set this
[16:43] <LmAt> ubottu; I think your link is broken.  There's no "Text Mode" anchor on that page3
[16:43] <auronandace> LmAt: ubottu is a bot, she can't understand you
[16:44] <LmAt> sacarlson; As auronandace said, gdm isn't a service.  Does that apply here?
[16:44] <LmAt> ubottu; You need to listen up.
[16:44] <LmAt> ubottu; Okay.
[16:44] <sacarlson> lmat: it might be out of date for unity
[16:44] <LmAt> sacarlson; Looks like it.
[16:44] <SubD> daftykins: I tried disabling all services in comodo, and exit it, still get that damn error :/
[16:44] <LmAt> sacarlson; So do you know how to do it using the newest ubuntu?
[16:45] <auronandace> LmAt: gdm isn't a service because you don't have gdm installed, you have lightdm
[16:45] <daftykins> SubD: almost sounds like it's not even running on the server end - tried restarting/starting the samba services?
[16:45] <LmAt> auronandace; right!
[16:45] <LmAt> auronandace; So I don't use gnome, I use Unity?
[16:46] <sacarlson> LmAt: another try http://www.uptechtalk.com/?p=162
[16:46] <auronandace> LmAt: if you have default ubuntu that means you use unity, which is built on top of gnome
[16:46] <sacarlson> lmat: I guess I should of asked what version of ubuntu you wanted to disable X in
[16:46] <LmAt> auronandace; ahh
[16:47] <zykotick9> LmAt: in /etc/init/ just rename lightdm (or whatever) to lightdm.disabled and it should stop X from loading automatically
[16:47] <supNow> hell all... I am running ubuntu 12.04 and seem to have an input issue while gaming. I appear to be limited to only 2 keys pressed on kayboard
[16:47] <supNow> also to use my mouse wheel I have to release all pressed keys from keyboard for it to work.. any suggestions?
[16:47] <ansi> could anyone help me.. is there some way i can get in the VLC in AWN applett list
[16:47] <zfe> hello
[16:47] <bazhang> supNow, #ubuntu+1 for that
[16:47] <zfe> how can i install libtool on ubuntu?
[16:47] <zfe> in what package is it?
[16:47] <LmAt> zykotick9; Ahh, thanks.  Is everything in /etc/init/ run at boot time?
[16:47] <supNow> thanks
[16:47] <ansi> could anyone help me.. is there some way i can get in the VLC in AWN applett list
[16:47] <auronandace> !find libtool | zfe
[16:47] <zykotick9> LmAt: not necessarily
[16:47] <LmAt> zykotick9; oh
[16:47] <SubD> daftykins: I've tried restarting/stoping/starting the smbd and even reestarted and shutdown the PC, no luck there
[16:48] <daftykins> SubD: clean starts and stops i take it? checked in the logs too?
[16:48] <ansi> could anyone help me.. is there some way i can get in the VLC in AWN applett list
[16:48] <sushil> hi; is there a different channel for slightly advanced configuration help/problems (like downgrading the kernel version)
[16:48] <zfe> libtool-dev cannot be found
[16:48] <sfsf32> 8[16:49] <KM0201> zfe: what program are you installing that requires it?
[16:49] <LmAt> zykotick9; What is the difference between /etc/init/lightdm.conf and /etc/init.d/lightdm ?
[16:49] <SubD> daftykins: explain "clean" starts and stops please?
[16:49] <zfe> KM0201: HFST
[16:49] <_Marcus> sfsf32 No spam please
[16:49] <KM0201> HFST?
[16:49] <daftykins> SubD: no error messages spewing anger :D
[16:49] <zfe> yes, it's a finite state machine
[16:49] <zykotick9> LmAt: don't touch init.d!!!  one is upstart /init/ the other is sysv
[16:49] <sfsf32> 8[16:49] <meerkats> Im making a livecd into a usb stick with make startup disk, it is still formatting the unit. MUST it be fat32?
[16:49] <sacarlson> SubD: did you try share something from within you /home/user directory with nautilus ?  just right click a subdir in your /home/user/try  and select share
[16:49] <_Marcus> sfsf32: Please stop.
[16:49] <meerkats> its taking too long to format, the unit is empty
[16:50] <sfsf32> 8[16:50] <sipior> sfsf32: a little optimistic with your equal signs, i imagine.
[16:50] <SubD> daftykins: ah lol, yeah clean start stop etc. no errors
[16:51] <LmAt> zykotick9; So upstart replaces /sbin/init...what is /sbin/init?  and what is /etc/init
[16:51] <dell> would someone give that kid the boot already?
[16:51] <zfe> sudo apt-get install libtool should work, right?
[16:51] <zykotick9> LmAt: no i mean /etc/init is upstart and /etc/init.d is sysv
[16:51] <SubD> sacarlson: I dont have X installed, besides the deafult XBMC one
[16:51] <LmAt> zykotick9; How do I tell what commands "service lightdm" takes?
[16:52] <zykotick9> LmAt: init - that's upstart
[16:52] <Myrtti> sfsf32: if you want to be unmuted, you're welcome to discuss your behaviour with me in pm
[16:53] <LmAt> How do I tell what commands to send to "service lightdm" ?
[16:54] <jrib> LmAt: man initctl?
[16:54] <auronandace> LmAt: common commands are start stop and restart
[16:54] <LmAt> jrib;  So you're saying that "service lightdm --session" will connect to init(8) daemon using the D-Bus session bus?
[16:54] <ansi> could anyone help me.. is there some way i can get in the VLC in AWN applett list
[16:54] <ansi> could anyone help me.. is there some way i can get in the VLC in AWN applett list
[16:54] <ansi> could anyone help me.. is there some way i can get in the VLC in AWN applett list
[16:54] <FloodBot1> ansi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:55] <sushil> hi; when i downgrade my kernel and reboot, i get error in syslog and ubuntu(not the kernel) doesn't start; "rsyslogd: rsyslogd's groupid changed to 103"
[16:55] <LmAt> auronandace; Is there any enumeration of all commands?  Or, where are those commands documented?
[16:55] <ansi> could anyone help me.. is there some way i can get in the VLC in AWN applett list
[16:55] <jrib> LmAt: no.  Read « man service »
[16:56] <LmAt> jrib; I did.  That's how I know to look it /etc/init.d
[16:56] <jrib> LmAt: good. now read the init.d script.
[16:56] <sushil> i think rsyslogd for some reason is not run with highest priviles/run level and ubuntu doesn't start
[16:56] <LmAt> jrib; ok
[16:56] <LmAt> jrib; I guess I should learn bash to read the script...
[16:56] <sushil> any idea where i start searching?
[16:57] <jrib> LmAt: just reading the comment at the top should suffice
[16:57] <LmAt> jrib; tahnks
[16:57] <SmartTowel> anyone know how to solve the 'problem loading flash' issue in grooveshark?
[16:57] <LmAt> jrib; Can you read the lightdm comment?  It seems a bit cryptic to me :(
[16:57] <jrib> LmAt: you see, it's an upstart script.  So when you use service, it really just uses /etc/init/lightdm.conf (that's why I suggested « man initctl »)
[16:58] <LmAt> jrib; hmm.  Perhaps someday I'll understand that.  Thanks for the info.
[16:58] <jrib> LmAt: what did you want to accomplish?
[16:59] <LmAt> jrib; I want to learn how to stop my window manager, and I want to be able to make it not start on startup.
[16:59] <LmAt> jrib; I think I turned it off with service lightdm stop
[16:59] <jrib> LmAt: window manager or desktop/login manager?
[16:59] <LmAt> jrib; Ahh, I don't know the difference.  All of it.  I only want terminals.
[17:00] <jrib> !text | LmAt
[17:00] <phpN00b> the scrollbar on Ubuntu is very tiny. How do I set it back the way it was before?
[17:00] <LmAt> jrib; That's not helpful because it deals with an earlier version of ubuntu.
[17:00] <LmAt> jrib; The link is broken for instance.
[17:00] <SubD> sacarlson: this is the latest logs I have from samba http://paste.ubuntu.com/905910/
[17:00] <jrib> LmAt: you do the same in current ubuntu.  Append "text" to your kernel line
[17:00] <Pici> phpN00b: did you remove the overlay-scrollbar package as I suggested earlier?
[17:00] <LmAt> jrib; What's a kernel line?  Where do I find this kernel line?
[17:01] <LmAt> phpN00b; Will you advance to "phpMaster"?
[17:01] <LmAt> phpN00b; Or are you not practicinG?
[17:01] <jrib> LmAt: you want this to always happen or just once?
[17:01] <LmAt> jrib; Always, and I want to be able to change it if I change my mind.
[17:01] <phpN00b> Pici, I did remove the overlay package
[17:01] <Pici> phpN00b: and?
[17:02] <phpN00b> overlay-scrollbar - Scrollbar overlayed widget. Pici this one?
[17:03] <phpN00b> Pici, overlay-scrollbar is already removed. Just confirmed it
[17:03] <Pici> phpN00b: Yes, that package. You may need to remove liboverlay-scrollbar-0.2-0 as well.
[17:03] <jrib> LmAt: from the link ubottu gave: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode .  So edit your kernel line in your grub configuration (the first link gives manual instructions: you edit /etc/default/grub, then do an update-grub
[17:03] <phpN00b> picca, done. going to reboot
[17:04] <sacarlson> LmAt: all those answers were in the link I already gave you http://www.uptechtalk.com/?p=162
[17:04] <LmAt> jrib; the word "text" doesn't show up on that page.
[17:04] <LmAt> sacarlson; Yup, I'm seeing that now.
[17:04] <xds_> how to  update  software
[17:04] <LmAt> jrib; I think sacarlson 's link is better :)
[17:05] <jrib> LmAt: that's correct.  Because you already know that you need to add "text".  You just want to know how to edit grub...
[17:05] <SubD> daftykins: this is the latest logs I have from samba http://paste.ubuntu.com/905910/
[17:05] <xds_> apt-get install
[17:05] <xds_> ;
[17:05] <LmAt> jrib; OOOOO  I know that I need to add text from sacarlson 's link.
[17:05] <jrib> LmAt: and from ubottu's factoid...
[17:05] <j0bi> DBus.Error.NoReply - Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken."
[17:05] <LmAt> jrib; ok
[17:05] <j0bi> i am trying to read a disk 1,44 mb
[17:06] <LmAt> jrib; So there's a windowing way to access the grub file...
[17:06] <jrib> LmAt: i guess, though I've never used it
[17:06] <LmAt> jrib; I want to be able to do both.
[17:06] <jrib> LmAt: do both what?
[17:07] <LmAt> jrib; Sorry, I was reading earlier, heard the notification, and thought you wrote something that you actually wrote a long time ago :9
[17:07] <sacarlson> lmat: any gui can be run as sudo like ;  gksudo gedit;
[17:07] <gmachine_24> Hi. Can I move (in this case) music files from one computer to another on a network using an ssh connection?
[17:08] <xds_> why do you use a disk 1.44mb
[17:08] <LmAt> sacarlson; Why are you telling me this?
[17:08] <LmAt> jrib; What is a logon manager and how do I disable it and why would I want to?
[17:08] <sacarlson> LmAt: that's my interpretation of this line you asked: (12:06:29 AM) LmAt: jrib; So there's a windowing way to access the grub file...
[17:08] <j0bi> DBus.Error.NoReply - Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken."
[17:09] <trism> gmachine_24: using scp, sure: scp -r /path/to/music_directory/ user@host:/path/to/dest;
[17:09] <LmAt> sacarlson; Nope, I didn't even know it requires sudo to edit ^_^
[17:09] <jrib> LmAt: lightdm is an example of a login manager and it's init script is what's responsible for starting X.  So if you don't want X to start, you would in actually not want lightdm to start
[17:09] <LmAt> jrib; What's the difference between a window manager and login manager?
[17:09] <dackyshawn> what the heck is CTRL + ALT + SUPPR?
[17:09] <dackyshawn> or rather what is SUPPR
[17:09] <LmAt> dackyshawn; Super is the Windows key.
[17:10] <LmAt> YES! I answered one!! ^_^
[17:10] <jrib> LmAt: window manager is what manages your windows in X after you login
[17:10] <dackyshawn> i see
[17:10] <LmAt> jrib; hmm.  With lightdm, is the window manager different from the login manager?
[17:10] <jrib> LmAt: yes.
[17:10] <LmAt> jrib; thanks.
[17:10] <latenite> Hi folks, where can I find the official documentation for the "auto installer" the one with preseed.cfg. I want to read about to options on partitioning.
[17:12] <dackyshawn> LmAt: good try but guess not
[17:12] <gmachine_24> trism, and if I want to move only certain files or a folder I would make it /path/to/music_directory/name_of_folder_with_songs_in_it  ??
[17:12] <dackyshawn> lol
[17:12] <LmAt> dackyshawn; DOH!
[17:12] <dackyshawn> looks like google says it's the delete key
[17:12] <sacarlson> latenite: the one I know little about that I think creates preseed.cfg is a package called kickstart,  I may have preseed.cfg confused with something else so
[17:12] <LmAt> dackyshawn; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_key_(keyboard_button)
[17:12] <LmAt> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_key
[17:13] <Glomeu1> hi
[17:13] <LmAt> dackyshawn; Read under "Under Unix and Unix-like operating systems it is sometimes called "Meta" or "Super"."
[17:13] <LmAt> Glomeu1; HI!
[17:13] <latenite> sacarlson, preseed is debians way to do a auto-install. Its a textfile which I need to have a documentation on.
[17:13] <LmAt> Glomeu1; Come sit and have some tea.
[17:13] <LmAt> Glomeu1; Is there some way we can help you?
[17:13] <dackyshawn> LmAt it's not super it's suppr
[17:13] <Glomeu1> thkx
[17:13] <LmAt> dackyshawn; doh again
[17:13] <Glomeu1> tell me
[17:13] <LmAt> 47
[17:13] <dackyshawn> http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ctrl-Alt-Delete
[17:13] <Glomeu1> I need to dl a game
[17:14] <dackyshawn> french apparently i guess
[17:14] <Glomeu1> oui :)
[17:14] <sacarlson> latenite: do you have any examples of a preseed.cfg file so I can compare the two
[17:14] <LmAt> dackyshawn; aaaaa
[17:14] <trism> gmachine_24: sure you can do single files to, just don't include the -r switch: scp file_1 file_2 file_3 user@host:/path/to/dest;
[17:14] <LmAt> Glomeu1; me, too.
[17:14] <Glomeu1> LmAt ok
[17:14] <dackyshawn> LmAt: i was reading this: http://blog.mansonthomas.com/2008/04/open-ssh-connection-through-proxy-with.html
[17:15] <dackyshawn> got confused when it said CTRL+ALT+SUPPR
[17:15] <latenite> sacarlson, sure https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/installation-guide/i386/preseed-using.html ist the 1st link there http://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/installation-guide/example-preseed.txt
[17:15] <dackyshawn> lol
[17:15] <Glomeu1> francais LmAt ?
[17:15] <LmAt> Glomeu1; non
[17:15] <Glomeu1> ok LmAt ?
[17:15] <Glomeu1> ok
[17:15] <LmAt> Glomeu1; I don't know why dackyshawn  sent me that link.
[17:15] <LmAt> ok
[17:15] <Glomeu1> LmAt can xdcc here ?
[17:15] <gmachine_24> trism, ok, thanks. I just started using ssh even though I've used Linux >10 years. silly me.
[17:15] <LmAt> Glomeu1; I don't know what xdcc means.
[17:16] <Glomeu1> LmAt can I download here with mIrc ?
[17:16] <cuppsy> So I'm an asshole, and I tried to install LibreOffice 3.5 from PPA (which didn't work b/c of a dependency issue). So I removed LibreOffice entirely, removed the PPA and now whenever I try installing 3.4 from the normal repo, it installs but won't start up.
[17:16] <LmAt> Glomeu1; Download my game?  sure.
[17:16] <LmAt> Glomeu1; I don't think I have a game to give you, though...unless...
[17:16] <cuppsy> No error thrown, even when launched from terminal. Just a split-second splash screen and then nothing.
[17:17] <Glomeu1> lol ok :)
[17:17] <Glomeu1> I want to donwload Mass effect 2
[17:17] <trism> gmachine_24: no problem, always new things to learn
[17:17] <LmAt> Glomeu1; I don't have it.
[17:17] <Glomeu1> ok
[17:17] <LmAt> Glomeu1; Never heard of it.
[17:17] <Glomeu1> LmAt you know where I can dll this ?
[17:18] <LmAt> Glomeu1; Nope.  Is it free?
[17:18] <Glomeu1> no but it's a old game now
[17:18] <LjL> !piracy | Glomeu1
[17:18] <cuppsy> Anyone know, if nothing's showing in the terminal, if there's a log in /var that'll tell me what's causing LO not to load?
[17:18] <Glomeu1> oh ! sorry
[17:19] <LmAt> jrib; http://askubuntu.com/questions/73922/grub-cmdline-linux-default-text-is-not-working
[17:19] <cuppsy> Glomeu1: Did you just refer to Mass Effect 2 as an "old game"?... :P
[17:19] <LmAt> jrib; Suggests that grub editing won't help :(
[17:19] <Bitvilag> hi everyone
[17:19] <LmAt> cuppsy; I think he was trying to tease it out of me..
[17:19] <jrib> LmAt: yes it will.  Did it not work for you?
[17:19] <Glomeu1> because in the shop, they don't have the game
[17:19] <cuppsy> LmAt: Ah, nvm then. Was feeling extra old for a moment, haha.
[17:19] <LmAt> jrib; I'm trying to figure out all the options for GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT and I found this.
[17:20] <auronandace> Glomeu1: buy it off ebay
[17:20] <LmAt> cuppsy; There is a Mass effect 3 I see.
[17:20] <bazhang> Glomeu1, dont ask for warez here
[17:20] <Glomeu1> auronandace ok
[17:20] <Bitvilag> just wondering how to switch a if statement like if [ -f .lockfile ] but the opposite
[17:20] <jrib> LmAt: look at the date (there was a bug when 11.10 was first released where the lightdm script did not check for the option but now it does)
[17:20] <jrib> Bitvilag: #bash
[17:20] <LmAt> jrib; goodness.  Thanks.
[17:20] <Glomeu1> so I saw it cost 10 euros
[17:20] <delinquentme> is there a ubuntu reposity browser which is like a stripped down browser for text only b rowsing?
[17:20] <Bitvilag> #bash
[17:20] <Bitvilag> <
[17:20] <Glomeu1> it's the reason why I want to dl this game :/
[17:20] <Bitvilag> ?
[17:21] <bazhang> Glomeu1, is there an ubuntu support issue you had?
[17:21] <jrib> delinquentme: w3m links2 elinks
[17:21] <delinquentme> jrib, any of those have a GUI?
[17:21] <auronandace> Glomeu1: you want a commercial game? buy it
[17:21] <Bitvilag> jrib: what do you mean?
[17:22] <jrib> delinquentme: links2 -g.  If you're just looking for a microbrowser (really light browser), then I'd recommend luakit, but also see uzbl, jumanji, surf
[17:22] <Glomeu1> bazhang just I try with irc, it's my first time on server irc
[17:22] <jrib> Bitvilag: visit the #bash channel for all your bash scripting needs :)
[17:22] <llutz> Bitvilag: [ ! -f .lockfile ]
[17:22] <LmAt> jrib; Okay, I did it.  Now, if I want to undo my work, I can just put quiet splash in there again?
[17:22] <bazhang> Glomeu1, #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[17:22] <Glomeu1> auronandace ok if I don't have the choice ..
[17:22] <jrib> LmAt: yes (and run update-grub)
[17:22] <Bitvilag> jrib oh right thanks
[17:22] <Bitvilag> llutz: thanks
[17:22] <LmAt> jrib; How the crap do I see these options documented?
[17:22] <sacarlson> latenite: ya it's completely different and yet totaly the same,  another completely different way of doing the same thing
[17:23] <llutz> Bitvilag: "man test" and #bash
[17:23] <Glomeu1> bazhang ok
[17:23] <jrib> LmAt: don't know of a canonical place.  The kernel documentation will have many but I imagine this "text" one is a bit special...
[17:23] <sacarlson> latenite: too bad they don't have a gui like kickstart for it yet.  or do they?
[17:24] <LmAt> jrib; lightdm is the program that handles these options, right?  You're just passing them to the kernel ... environment? ... through grub?
[17:24] <jrib> LmAt: lightdm's init script checks if "text" was passed on the kernel line
[17:24] <LmAt> jrib; right. And what does it do when "quiet splash" is there instead?  And what about "splash"?  And what other cool options are there?  does "world domination" work?
[17:24] <ansi> could anyone help me.. is there some way i can get in the VLC in AWN applett list
[17:25] <LmAt> If so, to what extent is world domination guaranteed?
[17:25] <LmAt> ansi; That's strictly impossible.
[17:25] <bazhang> LmAt, pardon?
[17:25] <jrib> LmAt: http://kernel.org/doc/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
[17:25] <LmAt> bazhang; These are the words of the ignorant :(
[17:26] <LmAt> jrib; "quiet" and "splash" don't occur on that page.
[17:26] <bazhang> LmAt, dont answer if you dont know
[17:26] <latenite> sacarlson, not that I have heard of. All i nee dto knwo is where to find all the funny parametes like "d-i netcfg/choose_interface". because there are more to be used that there are in the example file. I just cant find a real documentation. like a project page or such alike
[17:26] <LmAt> bazhang; yessah.
[17:26] <jrib> LmAt: the quiet splash ones are probably for plymouth
[17:26] <LmAt> jrib; Even "cmdline_" doesn't show up.
[17:26] <LmAt> jrib; So when I "service lightdm stop", and it stops, should I be able to use tty 7 ?
[17:27] <LmAt> jrib; I feel like I'm not done until TTY 7 is mine again...
[17:27] <zykotick9> LmAt: no, the TTYs are predetermined, stopping lightdm isn't enough
[17:27] <jrib> LmAt: no, you'll only have tty1-6 (see your /etc/init/tty*
[17:27] <Steevca> Is this a solid pc for the new ubuntu versions? http://paste.ubuntu.com/905958/
[17:28] <tensorpudding> not particularly
[17:28] <LmAt> jrib; So how did lightdm get terminal 7?  What's the magic sauce?
[17:28] <tensorpudding> that hardware is pushing a decade old
[17:28] <jrib> LmAt: it probably asks for the next one that isn't used...
[17:28] <LmAt> jrib; How do I do that?
[17:28] <tensorpudding> it probably won't support desktop effects, but i'm not 100%
[17:28] <jrib> LmAt: you can copy tty1.conf to tty7.conf.  I think that's enough.
[17:28] <LmAt> jrib; There is still stuff present on ALT+CTRL+7.
[17:29] <gridbag> My desktop is set up with 4 workspaces. When I log in , how do I get it to start firefox on WS1, and 2 terminals on WS2 ?
[17:29] <tensorpudding> 1 GB of RAM is really constraining nowadays
[17:29] <LmAt> jrib; Ahh, so something reads for the existence of those tty#.conf files and creates terminals accordingly...interestin.g
[17:29] <gridbag>    ... ubuntu 11.10
[17:29] <dackyshawn> anyone here ever have any luck using Putty to ssh into a remote server from a place that uses a proxy server with ntlm
[17:29] <dackyshawn> i'm sshing over port 443
[17:29] <jrib> LmAt: yes, that something is "upstart"
[17:29] <sacarlson> latenite: this looks like a good method to create a preseed.cfg file by just captureing a real install to clone it as shown here http://pthree.org/2008/05/20/automating-debianubuntu-installs-with-preseed/
[17:29] <trism> LmAt: it is actually configurable in lightdm, check out /usr/share/doc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.gz and the minimum-vt option
[17:29] <LmAt> jrib; I'm a windows guy.  I'm amazed how this file-system dictates SO much behaviour!  I guess the "registry" is in the file system.  But also all the other drives are in the file system, and the null, etc, etc.
[17:30] <LmAt> trism; There is a conf for lightdm in the doc dir?
[17:30] <jrib> LmAt: do you really need more than 6 tty's? :)
[17:30] <LmAt> jrib; No, like I said, I don't feel done until I get number 7 back ^_^
[17:30] <trism> LmAt: it is the fully documented one, there is a short one in /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf that is actually read
[17:31] <tensorpudding> there's more than 7 tty devices
[17:31] <Steevca> The minimum memory requirement for Ubuntu 11.10 is 384 MB of memory for Ubuntu Desktop.
[17:31] <LmAt> trism; Ahh, this one isn't read then?
[17:31] <LmAt> tensorpudding; Where are they?  How do I access them?
[17:31] <ssta> LmAt: one of the "guiding principles" in Unix is that everything is a file
[17:31] <trism> LmAt: yes, it isn't read, just for reference
[17:31] <ssta> well, pretty much
[17:32] <mull3t> cntrl + alt +1
[17:32] <LmAt> ssta; Right, that's what I'm feeling...  And there are running processes.  They don't SEEM to be files...
[17:32] <tensorpudding> LmAt, by default they're not accessible
[17:32] <LmAt> mull3t; sure.
[17:32] <tensorpudding> i mean, not by the usual way
[17:32] <LmAt> tensorpudding; ahh.  Is that what I use when I ssh?
[17:32] <tensorpudding> no
[17:32] <latenite> sacarlson, nice thing. That might realy help me out. Let me set up a box and try that. cool thanks for that link :D
[17:32] <bonks> I did an apt-get and got disconnected from ssh, i can see it in ps aux and it is also unpacking. How do I know if it is still running?
[17:32] <ssta> LmAt: umm, look in /proc...there's a few files for every process that's running :)
[17:32] <LmAt> ssta; EEK!!
[17:32] <LmAt> ssta; I stand corrected.
[17:32] <ssta> LmAt: lots of things aren't files, but moth everything can be treated as a file
[17:33] <ssta> s/moth/most/
[17:33]  * LmAt "cat /proc/3"...
[17:33] <tensorpudding> terminal emulators use a different kind of device
[17:33] <PioneerAxon> Hey, I want to install GTK+ 3.4 on my Ubuntu 11.10 (64-bit) machine, but , most sites says, it will break many dependencies.. So, is it really possible to install GTK+ 3.4 in my machine without upgrading to 12.04?
[17:33] <LmAt> tensorpudding; hmm
[17:33] <LmAt> ssta; lol, /proc/3 is a directory!
[17:33] <tensorpudding> PioneerAxon, it's not safe
[17:33] <ssta> LmAt: yep...there's stuff in there
[17:34] <LmAt> ssta; lots of stuff!
[17:34] <ssta> yep
[17:34] <PioneerAxon> tensorpudding: So, you suggest me to switch to Ubuntu 12.04??
[17:34] <tensorpudding> no
[17:34] <ssta> none of them are actual files, but you interact with them as if they are files
[17:34] <tensorpudding> i suggest you wait for gtk 3.4
[17:35] <LmAt> ssta; I see /proc/3/exe  What is it?
[17:35] <ssta> which makes programming for unix kinda cohesive...everything's a file, so you use the same sort of logic for everything
[17:35] <ubuxubu> sometime unity jusy freezez-locks up totally
[17:35] <LmAt> ubuxubu; just run "sudo service lightdm stop" and all your problems are over :)
[17:35] <hsnmck> I use grep with the option --exclude-dir=directory to exclude all the directories with the name directory, how can I exclude a specific directory without excluding all the subdirs having the same name, thx
[17:35] <gridbag> is there a unity-users mailing list? the unity website seems to have everything but that.
[17:36] <ssta> LmAt: it's a symlink to the actual binary that started process 3
[17:36] <LmAt> ssta; ahh, neato.  Hows come I can't "cat exe" ?
[17:36] <ubuxubu> wut is that lmat
[17:36] <LmAt> ubuxubu; It stops the windowing manager
[17:36] <ssta> LmAt: because not everything can be catted
[17:36] <LmAt> ssta; ahh
[17:36] <ssta> http://linux.about.com/od/commands/l/blcmdl5_proc.htm
[17:36] <PioneerAxon> tensorpudding: As a contributor at gnome-games, I need it ASAP. So, anyhow, can I know, how long will it take GTK 3.4 to officially appear in repos??
[17:36] <LmAt> ssta; thanks!
[17:37] <tensorpudding> oh, you're doing dev
[17:37] <ubuxubu> but at that point i cant run nuthin everything is frozen
[17:37] <ubuxubu> i had to crash it
[17:37] <tensorpudding> for complete safety you should setup 12.04 on a separate machine
[17:38] <LmAt> ssta; I'm reading the environ variable and it looks like the environment vars are separated by ":"
[17:38] <ssta> LmAt: 3 is probably a special case...process IDs that are very low are probably something system related in kernelspace, or owned by init.  try a bigger number.  ls -l /proc/1234/exe.  Should be a symbolic link
[17:38] <LmAt> ssta; How do I separate them by line (turn the : into \n)?  sed?
[17:38] <PioneerAxon> tensorpudding: yes, I recently started contributing. So, till now, just a couple of patches..
[17:38] <LmAt> ssta; sure enough, I'm on 6200
[17:38] <juan_sieira> hi¡
[17:38] <sacarlson> latenite: I just learned from that same article that preseed.cfg file is also compatible with the kickstart file format but seems not 100% all the features are present.  so in theory you could use the kickstart gui to do most or parts of the preseed.cfg generation
[17:38] <ssta> LmAt: cat environ | tr ':' '\n'
[17:38] <tensorpudding> 3.4 is not going to appear in the oneiric repos
[17:38] <juan_sieira> does anybody test ubuntu in a Samsung np530 14'?
[17:39] <ssta> LmAt: sed *can* do it, but it's awkward, tr works better
[17:39] <LmAt> ssta; perfect.
[17:39] <juan_sieira> I cant find any information about it
[17:39] <meerkats> im making a live cd, why is unetbooting strapped at 5%?
[17:39] <meerkats> do I have to redownload the -iso?
[17:39] <meerkats> usb permissions?
[17:39] <latenite> sacarlson, oh realy? I am on gentoo let me check if they have a kickstart-gui thing.
[17:39] <ssta> LmAt: just be careful about trying to write to stuff in /proc.  Mostly you won't be able to, but sometimes you can and can easily break stuff
[17:39] <LmAt> ssta; sure.
[17:40] <sacarlson> latenite: kickstart is in ubuntu
[17:40] <PioneerAxon> tensorpudding: okay. Will setup 12.04 on separate machine first.. And then, fully switch to it.
[17:40] <gridbag> something is really messed up with the "Keep in Launcher" checkbox on unity-bar icons.  You "unkeep" them.  Then you run the app from cmd-line, and "Keep" the new icon, then exit. Everytime from then on launching gives you a duplicate icon.
[17:40] <LmAt> ssta; Which vnc server should I use?
[17:40] <sacarlson> latenite: but I guess gento would also gen a compatible preseed.cfg ?
[17:40] <ssta> LmAt: no idea, sorry...I don't tend to use vnc very often
[17:40] <LmAt> jrib; Which vnc server should I use?
[17:41] <jrib> !vnc | LmAt
[17:41] <tensorpudding> 12.04 is reasonably close to release that it might not have any show-stopping bugs
[17:41] <jrib> LmAt: I do not have a specific recommendation
[17:41] <whoever> hi all, i head that in 12 ubuntu will lose the terminal, is that true
[17:41] <latenite> sacarlson, probably not. gentoo is a litle different. But i guess I will just install ubuntu once and seee from there
[17:41] <LmAt> jrib; Thanks for the link, maybe they will suggest something...
[17:41] <sacarlson> latenite: ya or run it in virtualbox to find out
[17:42] <LmAt> jrib; Does unity have to be running for vnc to work?
[17:42] <latenite> sacarlson, actually I kind of do..with esxi
[17:42] <jrib> LmAt: no
[17:42] <mackdieselx27> whoever - I doubt it.
[17:42] <PioneerAxon> tensorpudding: Yeah. Just have bought a new machine. So, will try all black magic on that ( if needed.. :P )...
[17:42] <LmAt> jrib; What windowing system does the vnc server use?
[17:42] <jrib> LmAt: it depends on the server
[17:42] <LmAt> jrib; ok.
[17:42] <sacarlson> latenite: I think kickstart is a gtk gui so whatever that takes I guess
[17:43] <LmAt> jrib; So vino perhaps uses the existing desktop.
[17:43] <whoever> mackdieselx27: will there be any gui changes that would deture a power user from useing
[17:43] <jrib> LmAt: I think so, yes
[17:43] <bazhang> whoever, of course it wont
[17:43] <jrib> whoever: poweruser would just install his own gui :)
[17:43] <LmAt> jrib; So, using unity, is there a preferred vnc server?
[17:43] <LmAt> jrib; I see a kde one
[17:43] <Pici> whoever: #ubuntu+1 is for support and discussion of 12.04 at this time. #ubuntu is for releases that have already been released.
[17:43] <whoever> mackdieselx27: it looks like ubuntu is tring to mimic windows
[17:43] <jrib> LmAt: I don't know -- I don't use unity
[17:43] <LmAt> jrib; ok
[17:43] <mackdieselx27> whoever - what jrib said.  I'm not using Unity.
[17:43] <atlas__> I have a shell script that I'd like to run every boot after gnome loads, where do I place the .sh file??
[17:44] <bazhang> whoever, thats not a support question
[17:44] <bonks> I did an apt-get and got disconnected from ssh, i can see it in ps aux and it is also unpacking. How do I know if it is still working?
[17:44] <mull3t> /etc/rc.d/rc.local
[17:44] <LmAt> jrib; oops! http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1861707
[17:44] <whoever> jrib: ya but the way it  is going it looks like the defaults will only be desired by the beginner
[17:45] <jrib> LmAt: old post, see if it affects you (trust bugs.ubuntu.com more than forums since the latter will get updated and reviewed more
[17:45] <whoever> Pici: thx
[17:45] <mackdieselx27> whoever - To be fair and answer your question you can choose your flavor of Ubuntu as the underlying base will be the same.  You just have to find the desktop environment that suits you.
[17:45] <LmAt> jrib; former?
[17:46] <swright007> Everyone waiting on the new beta ?
[17:46] <jrib> whoever: I wouldn't mind discussing it with you more in #ubuntu-offtopic (default choices in ubuntu that hurt the power user)
[17:46] <whoever> mackdieselx27: thx, just had to check and make sure
[17:46] <mackdieselx27> Of course.
[17:46] <ssta> swright007: nah...I'll wait for release.  I'm too old and cynical to want to cope with the inevitable breakage :)
[17:47] <whoever> and the channel iS "ubuntu+1", not "ubuntu1"?\
[17:47] <gridbag> why does everything like "Ubuntu Software Center" take 5 seconds to load?
[17:47] <whoever> jrib: Thx, see you in a sec
[17:48] <meerkats> ok, now that I have failed to make a live cd in a ust stick im trying with a dvd-r
[17:48] <ssfdre38> why not use a cd-r?
[17:48] <mull3t> dvd-rw
[17:48] <sacarlson> meerkats: how could you fail to make a live usb boot disk?
[17:49] <PioneerAxon> tensorpudding: Thanks a lot..
[17:49] <swright007> Image from now on will be too big
[17:49] <meerkats> sacarlson, noob, tried unetbooting and startup disk creator and both froze
[17:49] <meerkats> damn lag
[17:50] <meerkats> sacarlson, I have reformatted the usb unit twice with gparted to ext4 and ntfs but still nothing
[17:50] <sacarlson> meerkats: oh I guess it broke then
[17:50] <swright007> burning a boot DVD is the easiest if you don't mind using the disc to do it
[17:50] <gridbag> Are others getting the "developer's build" when they install "Chromium Web Browser" ?  It tells you when you bring up the "about:" URL.
[17:51] <meerkats> swright007, yes I do mind wasting a 4.8GB dvd-r for a ubuntu 11.10 live cd...
[17:51] <meerkats> but I dont have a lot of options here
[17:51] <meerkats> and I dont use a cd cause I dont have any
[17:51] <zandt> I'm running boot-repair liveusb because I fudged grub up.... but for some reason I can't mount my HDD or my linux system. I'm getting a 'special device not found' error. I've never this error | have no idea what's going
[17:51] <itaylor57> gridbag, what version of ubuntu are you running?
[17:51] <swright007> 11.10 is still small enough for CD.... 12.04 is DVD size minimum
[17:51] <zandt> (sorry for the repeat, net died on me)
[17:52] <sacarlson> meerkats: well do you have any linux on a hard disk with grub2 still working?
[17:52] <meerkats> swright007, im so noob I dont know if dvd-R means Rewritable...
[17:52] <gridbag> itaylor57, im on 11.10.  My chrome says it is 17.0.963.79 in the about: .
[17:52] <meerkats> sacarlson, the one Im using right now...
[17:53] <caotic> Hi, i am trying to rename a bunch of files (basically change all spaces for underscores, I have tried rename 's/ /_/g' ./* and rename 's/\ /_/g' ./* am i missing something ?
[17:53] <swright007> That is OK .. we were all new to Ubuntu because it is always changing .. :)
[17:53] <sacarlson> meerkats: linux?  oh then there is another option to add an entry in grub2 boot menue to boot direct an iso file
[17:53] <itaylor57> gridbag, sorry i thought you said chromium, i don't use chrome
[17:54] <meerkats> sacarlson, so I copy the .iso into the usb stick, and doing nothing else to it, reboot the craptop and select the fifth option of the boot menu?
[17:54] <itaylor57> !info | chromium-browser
[17:54] <llutz> caotic: "rename 's/ /_/g'  *"  should do fine
[17:54] <meerkats> sacarlson, not exactly what I want to do: my ubuntu 11.10 is very unstable, it gets more unstable with every update
[17:54] <zandt> brb
[17:55] <cuppsy> Anyone have their icons and images go missing from LibreOffice 3.5?
[17:55] <meerkats> sacarlson, I thoguh adding a live 11.10 cd to sources would give stability, as the machine would check the downloaded information with the written information in the iso
[17:55] <gridbag> itaylor57, huh? I'm talking about "Chromium Web Browser"
[17:55] <meerkats> i need to add a working copy of 11.10 to my software sources
[17:56] <caotic> It returns nothing nor changes are performed
[17:56] <gridbag> itaylor57, I want the latest stable chromium browser, whatever that's called.  This is so confusing.
[17:56] <Shojo> is there a channel for android?
[17:56] <swright007> Nope, but Libra Office randomly logs me off my session.  Thank goodness for auto-save.   I still have to retype the last page or so when it happens
[17:56] <ftw> caotic: http://pastebin.com/aX1tU8gQ is a script I use to remove spaces and capitals from filenames
[17:57] <caotic> llutz: ^
[17:57] <Shojo> oh ye
[17:57] <caotic> ftw: Ill take a look
[17:57] <sacarlson> meerkats: all you really need that's stable it the grub mbr sector all the reset comes from the iso file http://ansi.23-5.eu/2011/10/21/howto-boot-iso-images-via-grub2-with-ubuntu/
[17:58] <sacarlson> meerkats: install iso direct from harddisk is like 10 times faster than off a cd drive
[17:58] <brijithmac> hi
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[18:00] <Myrtti> !ru | akahitman
[18:00] <sacarlson> meerkats: oh and there is one more technical problem with this, you would need a second hard disk to install it on or posibly a secound prepartition already on the disk to be installed
[18:00] <meerkats> sacarlson, you mean for the link you justa gave me?
[18:01] <sacarlson> meerkats: yes
[18:01] <sacarlson> meerkats: because you wouldn't be able to change any partitions on the disk that the iso file resides on
[18:02] <btorch> anyone here using raid controllers with lucid on a 3.0.X kernel ? I have 3 PERCs , 1 integrated and two H800 pci ... for some reason with 3.0 the H200 devices are now seen last
[18:02] <meerkats> sacarlson, please confirm that adding a working copy of 11.10 to software sources effectively renders the machine more stable
[18:02] <meerkats> or, am I jumping on conclusions?ç
[18:03] <sacarlson> meerkats: it's I'm not sure 11.10 is any more stable than what you already run,  but it would be what it is 11.10 ubuntu
[18:03] <dackyshawn> btorch: do  they show up in the RAID card's BIOS?
[18:04] <btorch> the h200 (integrated) used to be sda and sdb ... now they come as sdcm and sdcn after the 90 drives from the jbods are mounted
[18:04] <meerkats> im hungry im leaving
[18:04] <zandt> back
[18:04] <zandt> take care meerkats
[18:04] <btorch> dackyshawn: the drives show up just fine ... it's just that how the kernel decided to re-order everything
[18:08] <PrivateReese> hey someone online how can help me with ubuntultsp installation and configuration with an IPFIRE OS?
[18:08] <escott> btorch, enumeration order has never been guaranteed
[18:08] <zandt> trying to mount my linux partition from a live usb (boot-repair) because my grub isn't showing up on boot. http://pastebin.com/ay60ab1s this is my fdisk -l output. when I 'mount /dev/sda5 /mnt' I get 'mount: special device /dev/sda5 does not exist' ?
[18:09] <savr> hi whats the apt get flag not to ask yes to updates?
[18:09] <btorch> I get that .. I use udev rules to create symlinks which helps ... it's just strage that 2.6 kernel sees the h200 devices first and then the h800s but 3.0 goes the other way around
[18:10] <escott> btorch, 3.0 has updated astrological tables and properly calculates the position of jupiter so now the ordering is done correctly when jupiter is in the 5th house
[18:10] <dr_willis> zandt:  does ls -l /dev/sda5 show a device?
[18:10] <btorch> :)
[18:11] <bazhang> savr, from the apt-get man page?
[18:11] <zandt> dr_willis, 'cannot access /dev/sda5: no such file or directory'
[18:11] <savr> bazhang: you are going to make me man this
[18:11] <savr> is it -f
[18:12] <zandt> it's not seeing sda1, either. (which is my windows partition, which I can boot into normally)
[18:12] <bazhang> savr, are you talking about unattended installs?
[18:12] <savr> yes
[18:13] <ssta> savr: -y
[18:13] <savr> great
[18:13] <savr> thanks
[18:14] <zandt> dr_willis, I'd like to give it a try from a ubuntu based live usb... do you have a recommendation for one that doesn't require much ram ?
[18:14] <zandt> or anyone for that matter :)
[18:14] <dr_willis> zandt:  try lubuntu i guess. for a mini live-cd i tend to use tiny core linux - its in the 10-40mb range. :)
[18:14] <bazhang> zandt, lubuntu
[18:15] <zandt> thanks. I will probably see you all again in a bit :P
[18:15] <zandt> take care until then
[18:17] <dackyshawn> anyone know if it's possible with linux to find out if a filesystem is thin provisioned
[18:17] <dackyshawn> (linux is the guest OS)
[18:18] <meem1029> Does anyone have any ideas why the sound for a video I'm watching gets killed constantly. When I listen, it's extremely stuttery. I opened the sound panel to look at it, and the flash player sound application keeps flashing on and then being deleted. This only happens in chrome and firefox as well as other music applications work fine.
[18:19] <swright007> All of CHrome's drivers are built in, so it is definitely a Chrome issue
[18:19] <swright007> Try uninstalling Chrome, rebooting, then installing Chrome from scratch again
[18:20] <meem1029> Oh, just remembered that I had tried the html5 trial for youtube. Disabling that worked. I'm very confused now.
[18:20] <bilal_> hi i have hp mini note book, i want use wifi but note book not connected with wifi any person tell how note book connect with wifi
[18:21] <angs> uusi mene syntynyt
[18:21] <Flash_> i got update via update manager and since than i'm not able to play flash content from webcites? What could i do? I'm on ubuntu 11.10 64bit
[18:22] <meem1029> What browser are you using? Can you try a different one to see if it works?
[18:22] <bilal_> tell me plzz
[18:23] <go8765_P>  i have some troubles with vlc. can anbody help me please? vlc dont show video
[18:23] <Flash_> i have tried both chromium and firefox
[18:24] <bilal_> hi i have hp mini note book, i want use wifi but note book not connected with wifi any person tell how note book connect with wifi
[18:24] <bazhang> !patience | bilal_
[18:24] <econdudeawesome> I hope this is the right place to ask. Since tsclient is incompatible with 11.10, I'm giving remmina a chance. How do I share my hard drive over the connection?
[18:25] <dackyshawn> anyone here ever have experience setting up an xmpp server that could be used for encrypted IM communications?
[18:26] <ETronik> Hello All!  One Migration from WIndows->Ubuntu is under threat of reverting back to Windows - only due to intermittent printing problems... help! are there reported problems with Ubuntu 11.10 and OKI B4600 (BW Laser) ?
[18:26] <bazhang> ETronik, what does linuxprinting.org say about that printer
[18:26] <dackyshawn> ETronik: is that a network printer or USB?
[18:27] <ETronik> The buggers seems to print like once a day, then refuse to print...
[18:27] <ETronik> USB printer
[18:27] <dackyshawn> oh beats me then... i've had soo many issues with usb printers and linux lol
[18:27] <dackyshawn> not blaming linux... blaming myself
[18:28] <ETronik> linuxprinting? checking...
[18:28] <ETronik> it would be a shame to revert a PC in a Small office back to windows...
[18:29] <bazhang> ETronik, did you check the link?
[18:29] <ETronik> linuxprinting redirected to http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/openprinting  - is this right ?
[18:29] <gridbag> How do you autostart an app upon login on 11.10 ?   all the stale webpages in google are driving me crazy!
[18:30] <bazhang> gridbag, in startup applications ?
[18:30] <ETronik> bazhang: where do I start ? can I search the printer ?
[18:30] <ETronik> ah! got it
[18:30] <bazhang> ETronik, there's a database there, yes
[18:31] <gridbag> bazhang: hey, so that's where you turn off the sound. looking into "Startup Applications..." now. thx.
[18:33] <ETronik> well, I'll need the printer with me...
[18:33] <ETronik> check that out later
[18:33] <ETronik> bazhang: thanks, maybe see you later
[18:33] <satyanash> dackyshawn, you could use client side encryption using the Plugin Encryption for Pidgin..
[18:34] <satyanash> dackyshawn, that way.. you can have encryption on existing accounts of which the servers do not belong to you..
[18:36] <dackyshawn> satyanash: have u ever used openfire?
[18:38] <IanWizard> Anybody know how to remove the extra columns and rows from LibreImpress?
[18:40] <jinx__> ya i know how to remove extra columns and rows
[18:40] <jinx__> from libreimpress
[18:41] <debian_noob> is webcam support out of the box?
[18:41] <debian_noob> i have a really ancient webcam
[18:41] <debian_noob> IBM ultraport
[18:41] <debian_noob> cheese isnt detecting it
[18:41] <debian_noob>  and i cant find a /dev/video
[18:43] <IanWizard> jinx__: thx, that's what I needed :)
[18:43] <meerkats> can I burn ubuntu.iso and kubuntu.iso into a dvd-r and my machine still give me the option, when booting, to choose one of the 2?
[18:43] <jinx__> merkats   no
[18:44] <jinx__> one iso onedvd
[18:44] <Godzilla> meerkats: while I believe that it can be hacked, I've never managed.
[18:44] <meerkats> jinx__, would I render the dvd-r unusable or would it select one automatically?
[18:44] <MonkeyDust> meerkats  you can do that on a pendive, with multisystem
[18:44] <MonkeyDust> pendrive*
[18:44] <Godzilla> meerkats: well, it would burn the first, and then be un-writable.
[18:44] <meerkats> MonkeyDust, I tried the pendrive and failed, i still dont know why
[18:44] <jinx__> meerkats: pendrive is good option
[18:45] <meerkats> i know its a good option, I wanted that in the 1st place, but the livecd creator stops at 5%
[18:45] <meerkats> always
[18:45] <meerkats> does the sysfile has to be FAT?
[18:46] <Godzilla> jinx__: so really, *how*, can I remove the extra cols/rows from libre?
[18:46] <Godzilla> :)
[18:47] <jinx__> Godzilla: just right click on the column or row and in row option delete wil come
[18:48] <Mene-Mene> Suspend seems to work rather slowly, possibly slower than a full boot up, is there something I can do to help performance there?
[18:48] <Godzilla> jinx__: no no... It auto adds rows / columns as you scroll, I don't want that.  it's a fixed length, and I don't want the extra rows.
[18:50] <meerkats> going on again with the damned usb stick to make a live cd... would it be a good idea to use gparted to format it to fat32?
[18:50] <meerkats> or would it be better to let the startup disk creator do it?
[18:51] <jinx__> godzilla: right click and delete option will come
[18:51] <Godzilla> meerkats: I tend to do it myself, to be srue
[18:51] <Godzilla> *sure
[18:52] <malm> anybody knows how to remove permissions on /media/sdb1
[18:52] <meerkats> malm, if thats related, i do not
[18:53] <malm> meerkats: what do u meen
[18:53] <roasted> Unity Question - is it possible to rearrange the items in dash view? I'd really like to have my default view as the list of applications on my system instead of having to click a few options in order to get there.
[18:53] <malm> mean
[18:53] <Godzilla> roasted: wait for next mo
[18:53] <Godzilla> nth
[18:54] <Godzilla> *month
[18:54] <roasted> Godzilla: is it a feature to be in 12.04?
[18:54] <meerkats> org.freedesktop.UDisks.Error.Inhibited: Daemon is inhibited
[18:54] <meerkats> when trying to make a live cd into the usb
[18:54] <Godzilla> roasted: I know that it's all changing, to be ALOT better.
[18:54] <meerkats> malm, I do not know how to remover permissions on any given partition, i believe...
[18:55] <roasted> Godzilla: Unity is undoubtedly better in 12.04 (I have a laptop running 12.04 at the moment too). But even on 12.04 I haven't seen an option to customize the lens. I wasn't sure if there was a way or not. I've only started using Unity recently...
[18:55] <frederik_> gibts hier auch einen Anfänger Channel ? :D
[18:56] <malm> øv
[18:56] <Godzilla> roasted: ohh, perhaps not then.  it lacks alot of customization options
[18:56] <LjL> !de | frederik_
[18:56] <roasted> Godzilla: :(
[18:56] <maximilius> guys, i have constant skipping when i listen to MP3 files - how can i troubleshoot this?
[18:56] <Godzilla> maximilius: try mplayer
[18:56] <Godzilla> maximilius: does it still skip?
[18:57] <maximilius> i tried audacious rhythmbox and banshee
[18:57] <gridbag> In Startup Applications, I put a chromium-browser entry.  But it shows up underneath the left unity toolbar.  How do you avoid that?
[18:58] <malm> meerkats: how do i use the extra drive space for my backup files
[18:59] <meerkats> malm, dont ask the noob
[18:59] <maximilius> any other suggestions?
[19:02] <satyanash> dackyshawn, yes. I have.
[19:04] <danileigh79> sorry for all the log In log outs... experImentIng wIth runnIng IrssI In termInal through vnc
[19:05] <jacklk> window 1
[19:07] <danielbw> hey hey hey
[19:07] <danielbw> been a long time and i see names i remember
[19:07] <danielbw> =)
[19:08] <danielbw> !seen brianw
[19:08] <danielbw> !help
[19:09] <jacklk> Is there a way to install Gnome on Ubuntu 11.04?
[19:14] <Fyodorovna> jacklk, in the past I have seen do not install info in that release, looking at google I see nothing new.
[19:15] <oxidizer_> hi
[19:15] <bazhang> !gnome3 | jacklk
[19:15] <sudipta> what is the channel for ubuntu 12.04?
[19:15] <jacklk> ubottu: I am using 11.04.
[19:15] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 sudipta
[19:16] <bazhang> jacklk, yes, and gnome3 is not supported/will break on that
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[19:16] <jacklk> bazhang: Alright then.
[19:17] <jacklk> I'll just update my system tomorrow. Unity on 11.10 is so laggy, it's not really usable on my netbook.
[19:17] <bazhang> !notunity | jacklk
[19:17] <Fyodorovna> jacklk, you might bump the ram, I have a netbook with 2 gigs and a 1.6 atom runns very nice.
[19:18] <Felishia> HI!... :)
[19:18] <Felishia> need help _(
[19:18] <Felishia> :(
[19:18] <Logan_> !ask | Felishia
[19:19] <Felishia> okay... I get this problem no acceptable c compiler found in $PATH
[19:19] <Felishia> I suppose I don't have gcc installed
[19:19] <Felishia> but I also do not have internet at home
[19:19] <bazhang> Felishia, install build-essential
[19:19] <Felishia> and I have no idea how to install it properly
[19:19] <Felishia> how to?
[19:20] <Felishia> I'm super-begginer at this
[19:20] <Felishia> I also need 'make'
[19:20] <Logan_> Felishia: Type "sudo apt-get install build-essential" (without the double quotes) into a Terminal command.
[19:20] <bazhang> Felishia, with the package manager
[19:20] <Felishia> okay okay
[19:20] <Felishia> I tried that
[19:20] <Felishia> but I have no internet
[19:20] <Felishia> so it doesn't download anything I need to get the packages myself
[19:21] <Felishia> I downloaded blender that way from another computer and it worked.
[19:21] <chrispercol> Hi, I look after a lot of remote ssh terminals/rdp sessions. Is anyone aware of software that would help me manage them? Something like mremote on windows which also has a builtin text editor?
[19:21] <bazhang> !offline | Felishia
[19:23] <Felishia> ok let's see I go to Synaptic
[19:23] <Felishia> but I didn't understand that of how to Generate packages download scripts
[19:23] <roasted> Unity Question - is it possible to change some items around in the dash view? I'd really like it to default to showing me ALL of my applications, instead of having to click at the bottom for my apps then click "see more results" to see everything. Is this possible?
[19:24] <Felishia> and what's that of what distribution do I have? :s
[19:24] <kristianpaul> Hi
[19:24] <kristianpaul> What was the gnuradio ppa for precise?..
[19:24] <Felishia> I know the architecture is i386 but what's the distribution thing? :s
[19:25] <Felishia> I just know I use the last lubuntu
[19:25] <Felishia> latest
[19:26] <Felishia> I found files with deb extensions... is that what I need to install?
[19:28] <meerkats> does startup disk need usb stick in FAT?
[19:30] <cookie> HELLO WORLD!
[19:30] <Felishia> LOL
[19:30] <jacklk> Fyodorovna: do you have an Eee PC?
[19:31] <roasted> Unity Question - is it possible to change some items around in the dash view? I'd really like it to default to showing me ALL of my applications, instead of having to click at the bottom for my apps then click "see more results" to see everything. Is this possible?
[19:31] <cookie> roasted: yes
[19:31] <roasted> cookie: how?
[19:32] <cookie> roasted: go into terminal and type rm -f /
[19:32] <roasted> yeah, no
[19:32] <roasted> someone ban please
[19:32] <cookie> lol
[19:32] <roasted> there is no lol here
[19:32] <cookie> LOOOOL
[19:32] <cookie> loooolllll
[19:32] <cookie> EL
[19:32] <cookie> OH
[19:32] <cookie> EL
[19:32] <FloodBot1> cookie: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:32] <Ben64> !ops | cookie
[19:32] <roasted> that's not even remotely funny because a new user in here could easily do that
[19:32] <roasted> !ops
[19:32] <Felishia> thank you all!... now I gotta go... have a wonderful day ;) you saved my life
[19:32] <cookie> roasted: cry moar
[19:33] <Logan_> !danger
[19:33] <cbfarrand> Hello, is this the place to ask printer questions?
[19:34] <Ben64> its the place to ask any ubuntu questions
[19:34] <MrChrisDruif> cbfarrand; only in congestion with Ubuntu as operating system =)
[19:34] <cbfarrand> had to replace router, need to get printer set up with new router
[19:35] <ejv> i think the word you want is connection, not congestion
[19:35] <aeon-ltd> cbfarrand: if you're using ubuntu it is
[19:35] <ejv> or perhaps 'conjunction'
[19:35] <roasted> cbfarrand: #networking might be better unless its specifically about getting the printer working on ubuntu
[19:35] <MrChrisDruif> ejv; prolly conjunction
[19:35] <ejv> conjunction junction, whats your function?
[19:35]  * ejv is that old, yes
[19:35] <cbfarrand> printer is on the router, MS machines are connected, need to connect Ubuntu machine
[19:35]  * sevith was there.
[19:36] <MrChrisDruif> !printing | cbfarrand
[19:36] <ejv> i hear that Ray Charles was the vocals behind many of that era's educational "school house rock" videos
[19:36] <mneptok> bbl. hookin' up words and phrases and clauses.
[19:37] <ejv> interesting eh? :)
[19:37] <guntbert> ejv: wrong window?
[19:37] <mumbles__> hi all - have a stragne problem - my ubuntu 3.0.0-16 install stops booting after " setting sensor limits"  have done all updates but still no luck
[19:37] <ejv> never!
[19:38] <guntbert> !ot | ejv  in that case
[19:38] <ejv> yes obviously
[19:38] <mcloy>  how to  download a complete webpage including html files, pics, js and css scripts     to that i can brows it offline ?
[19:39] <ejv> !obvious | guntbert
[19:39] <ejv> doh :p
[19:39] <Bitvilag> mcloy: do you have ftp access?
[19:39] <guntbert> mcloy: look at wget
[19:39] <ejv> thx mneptok :)
[19:39] <MrChrisDruif> Or curl?
[19:39] <mcloy> Bitvilag,  no that is not my site
[19:39] <Bitvilag> then as guntbert said wget is ur program
[19:40] <mcloy> guntbert,  i cant handle wget commands. iam just a desktop user
[19:40] <sevith> w3m perhaps?
[19:40] <mcloy> guntbert,  how to do it by wget ?
[19:40] <ejv> mcloy: man wget
[19:40] <mneptok> !info gwget | mcloy
[19:40]  * mneptok blinks
[19:41] <guntbert> mcloy: open a terminal, then do as other said ...
[19:41] <guntbert> mneptok: wget not gwget :)
[19:41] <ejv> i suppose manning commands isn't very useful if on is terminal adverse...
[19:41] <ejv> s/on/one/
[19:41] <ubuntu_> hi all
[19:41] <ubuntu_> maybe someone knows  how much free space requires 10.04 for installing?
[19:41] <cookies> ubuntu_: 1tb, I think.
[19:41] <mneptok> guntbert: i don;t use it, so ... :)
[19:42] <ubuntu_> oO
[19:42] <ubuntu_> cookies, improbable
[19:42] <cookies> ubuntu_: hey you asked, don't argue with me if you don't like the answer.
[19:42] <ubuntu_> 11.04 requires 4.5gb
[19:42] <ejv> ubuntu_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[19:42] <mneptok> guntbert: wait ... no. wrong. you just typed "wget" again. there's a GTK front-end called something ....
[19:42] <MrChrisDruif> cookies; don't say stuff that is false
[19:42] <cookies> Ok, 11.04 is better on memory.
[19:42] <cookies> MrChrisDruif: I like you
[19:43] <ejv> ahh good old google
[19:43] <cookies> but that's a ie
[19:43] <cookies> lie*
[19:43] <maXXer> ejv, tnx :p
[19:43] <guntbert> mneptok: ah, I didn't know about that, thought you mistyped
[19:43] <guntbert> !ot | cookies
[19:43] <cookies> !ot | guntbert
[19:44] <meerkats> help, I cannot create a live cd its stucked here: http://imagebin.org/205740
[19:44] <mneptok> cookies: again? really?
[19:44] <mcloy> guntbert,  how to do it by wget ?
[19:44] <ejv> i like him, adds a bit of comedy when they are forcibly removed.
[19:44] <cookies> mneptok: if you do not have a question for support. Please refrain from disrupting the channel.
[19:45] <dlentz> !op cookies
[19:45] <dlentz> oh
[19:45] <mneptok> wrong answer.
[19:45] <guntbert> mcloy: sorry, I got distracted
[19:45] <yokai> any help on how to install printer driver on ubuntu?
[19:46] <ejv> i believe the term is "Schadenfreude" ;)
[19:46] <yokai> ls
[19:46] <maXXer> bye!
[19:46] <dlentz> yokai, what printer driver?
[19:46] <ejv> yokai: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers <-- best to start here
[19:46] <yokai> I am trying to install an old ID card Printer P310C
[19:47] <yokai> from Eltron
[19:47] <yokai> I checked online and I am not getting anywhere
[19:48] <dlentz> yokai, do you have the driver?
[19:48] <yokai> someone wrote a tar.gz for linux
[19:48] <dlentz> link?
[19:48] <tdlam> hi folks
[19:48] <yokai> and I think it was for mandrake
[19:48] <alain__> hi
[19:48] <yokai> does that make a difference?
[19:49] <tdlam> hey Im using xubuntu...is this the right place to discuss a printer issue?
[19:49] <dlentz> mandrake? must be an old driver, but it could work
[19:49] <guntbert> mcloy:  I suggest creating an empty directory first and changing into this:      mkdir webdir  ; cd webdir
[19:49] <ejv> if there was actual source code provided, with some skill/luck it may be able to be adapted.
[19:49] <dlentz> tdlam, yes
[19:50] <tdlam> ok ty dlentz
[19:50] <yokai> I thought so but has not gotten further
[19:50] <guntbert> mcloy: then     wget -r http://your.favorite.site/path/to/the/place
[19:50] <tdlam> my issue is that I have an epson workforce 520...it prints ok but wont scan...
[19:50] <roasted> Unity Question - is it possible to change some items around in the dash view? I'd really like it to default to showing me ALL of my applications, instead of having to click at the bottom for my apps then click "see more results" to see everything. Is this possible?
[19:50] <tdlam> running xubuntu 11.10
[19:51] <yokai> I decompress the files but ... cannot run
[19:51] <dlentz> yokai, do you have a link to the drvier?
[19:51] <yokai> http://www.roberto.foglietta.name/pub/lep310c/
[19:52] <yokai> but the guy is not saying much
[19:52] <yokai> no direction on how to proceed
[19:52] <jodesj777> Noob Question - I uninstalled packages that to me weren't necessary (Bluetooth by example) and my wifi icon is now gone in top menu bar (Unity) and can't connec't to wifi network anymore.  I have to connect through iphone internet tethering.  Any solution?
[19:53] <tdlam> the reason why I want it to work is that I want to dump windows and use xubuntu soley for my work laptop...but if i cant get it to scan then its back to windows
[19:53] <yokai> I have no clue on what I might even do after download
[19:54] <tdlam> anyone had any luck getting this printer to scan?
[19:54] <yokai> put it in a folder on usr/local/scr
[19:54] <shaopeng> hello
[19:54] <yokai> but cannot get the ./configure
[19:54] <guntbert> !enter | yokai
[19:55] <yokai> thanks
[19:55] <dlentz> yokai, the command is ./autogen.sh , i ran it, but get errors on make
[19:55] <CFHowlett> shaopeng   greetings
[19:56] <tdlam> i guess not...ok so its back to windows again...shame really as I really love this distro but until they iron out issues like this its just going to continue to be a "second rate" operating system
[19:58] <shaopeng> lol
[19:59] <yokai> sorry, my system froze
[20:00] <cake_guy> o
[20:00] <cake_guy> Hello*
[20:00] <guntbert> shaopeng:  Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[20:00] <CFHowlett> cake_guy   greetings
[20:00] <shaopeng> no
[20:01] <cake_guy> For some reason, when I log into the main account on my ubuntu computer I get an error message saying that it could not access a file called "iceauthority" and it doesn't let me login, any ideas? I'm using Ubuntu Ocelet
[20:02] <webnet> Question, how do i make themes and panel settings for my user system wide for all new users?
[20:02] <yokai> it is asking me to install ĺibtool´'wonder what it is but sudo apt-get libtool display error
[20:04] <Alexanderchr> Hello, i'm trying to install ubuntu alongside windows 7 and 8 but the installer won't recognize the partions. What am i doing wrong?
[20:04] <Alexanderchr> http://i.imgur.com/2PjvR.png
[20:04] <Jordan_U> Alexanderchr: Most likely you have an invalid partition table. Can you pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l"?
[20:05] <cake_guy> When I tried to log into the main account on my ubuntu computer I get an error message saying that it could not access a file called "iceauthority" and it doesn't let me login, any ideas? I'm using Ubuntu Ocelet oneiric.
[20:05] <Alexanderchr> http://paste.ubuntu.com/906188/
[20:06] <CFHowlett> Jordan_U  gpt as suspected...
[20:06] <Defusal> hi everyone
[20:06] <Alexanderchr> Is there anything i can do without repartioning the whole system?
[20:07] <Defusal> i just want to express my extreme anger and frustration... *(@&$*#*$&#@%^&@%$*&@&*$#^*&
[20:07] <Defusal> thank you for listening. :(
[20:07] <CFHowlett> Defusal   this isn't the place for rants.
[20:07] <Defusal> i'm done
[20:07] <Jordan_U> Alexanderchr: That's the problem. You have remnants of a GPT label but you don't have a protective entry in your msdos label. This most likely means that the GPT label is no longer intended to be used, fixparts can get rid of it.
[20:07] <guntbert> cake_guy: I guess you ran some graphical app as root (don't do that)   - for now we need some info, please change to a virtual terminal by pressing alt+ctrl+F2
[20:07] <roasted> Question - is there a way when I go into my Unity dash that it defaults to the applications tab first instead of the home tab?
[20:07] <Defusal> so is my ubuntu kernel apparently
[20:07] <Defusal> and theres nothing i can do about it without physical access to the server
[20:08] <neoman4426> What is the easiest way to add a directory to PATH? All the methods I'm finding online are failing, near as I can tell /usr/games SHOULD be included, but I can't get it to work for more than the current terminal session
[20:08] <Defusal> anyone know of a safe way to downgrade my kernel over ssh without a chance of losing access to the server?
[20:08] <Defusal> :|
[20:08] <pataahey> !lista
[20:08] <pataahey> !alis
[20:09] <cake_guy> guntbert: I let someone on this machine earlier, I suspect it may be that they deleted it...
[20:09] <Alexanderchr> Jordan_U: Alright, i'll do some research on it. Thanks for the help :)
[20:09] <Jordan_U> Alexanderchr: "sudo apt-get install fixparts" then follow http://www.rodsbooks.com/fixparts/
[20:09] <Jordan_U> Alexanderchr: You're welcome.
[20:10] <guntbert> cake_guy: improbable, it doesn't matter if it is missing - only problem is when it is owned by root
[20:10] <webnet> anyone have a clue about globalizing themes for all new users?
[20:11] <Jordan_U> !gksudo | cake_guy
[20:11] <guntbert> cake_guy: are you in the VT already?
[20:11] <cake_guy> Yes.
[20:12] <guntbert> cake_guy: log in
[20:13] <guntbert> cake_guy: please tell me when you are ready
[20:13] <mcloy> iam trying to download http://www.artificialstudio.com/ but it only downloads index.html    wget -p  or wget -r   doesnot makes it work offline
[20:14] <jorendorff> I have an Ubuntu 11.04 box that was powered off for a few months. When I turned it on, it didn't boot properly.
[20:14] <cake_guy> guntbert: me ready
[20:14] <cake_guy> I logged in.
[20:15] <CharminTheMoose> upowerd is writing to disk every few minutes and waking my disk up. I'm not running Gnome, so is it safe (i.e won't cause the system to break) to stop it executing at startup?
[20:15] <jorendorff> It shows "Booting system without full network configuration…" and it's been sitting there for an hour or so. I can log in on Ctrl+Alt+F1; how can I find out what's wrong?
[20:15] <guntbert> cake_guy: paste the output of    ls -l .ICEauthority              (use <tab> to autocomplete after .IC...)
[20:15] <cake_guy> Okay.
[20:16] <cake_guy> How do I copy in in TTY?
[20:16] <iljo> hello, i need help
[20:17] <[Si]> jorendorff:
[20:17] <guntbert> !who | cake_guy
[20:18] <dman420> is there a way to list every file in a directory then put all those files in a text file to read later
[20:18] <dlentz> cake_guy, ctrl+shift+c\
[20:18] <iljo> i try to change a users password using usermod -p <pass> <username> and it doesn't work... it is essential i use this command to change the pass
[20:18] <guntbert> cake_guy: I forgot, install pastebinit:     sudo apt-get install pastebinit,    then       ls -l .ICEauthority  | pastebinit      and tell me the URL
[20:18] <guntbert> dlentz: no, he is in a VT
[20:18] <jorendorff> dman420: ls dirname > filename.txt
[20:18] <iljo> also, when i try to login with a newly created user, it just goes back to login screen, and i've made his shell /bin/bash
[20:18] <[Si]> jorendorff: sorry for that, does mac in the output from ifconfig match
[20:19] <matt_symes> dman420, ls -al > files.txt
[20:19] <SmartTowel> i need my grooveshark back! what's up with this "Problem Loading Flash" error.  Is ANYONE getting this too?
[20:19] <[Si]>  the one in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[20:19] <jorendorff> [Si]: Match what? I do see a mac in the output from ifconfig -a
[20:19]  * jorendorff looks
[20:19] <cake_guy> guntbert: Can't I just login to my other account from a regular terminal window?
[20:20] <dman420> thanks
[20:20] <jorendorff> [Si]: It does match.
[20:20] <zandt> wb meerkats
[20:20] <[Si]> jorendorff: is there just one entry in there, or is there one with an old mac?
[20:20] <guntbert> cake_guy: of course you can, I didn't expect you to have another account
[20:21] <jorendorff> [Si]: There's only one entry in 70-persistent-net.rules .
[20:21] <cake_guy> guntbert: Ye, I'm using a guest account. :D
[20:21] <iljo> i try to change a users password using usermod -p <pass> <username> and it doesn't work. I know i can change it using passwd, but i need to use usermod.
[20:22] <guntbert> !repeat | iljo
[20:23] <iljo> sorry
[20:23] <sparky-> iljo: why doesn't it work?  you do know the parameter to -p has to be a hashed password right?
[20:23] <iljo> oh... actually i didn't know that
[20:24] <iljo> how do i get hashed password?
[20:24] <sparky-> iljo: that's why you should read the manpage :-)  (man usermod and man crypt)
[20:24] <sparky-> iljo: one thing you could do is use the Apache utility, htpasswd
[20:24] <cake_guy> guntbert: from the command you gave me, I got 142290
[20:24] <[Si]> jorendorff: does /etc/network/interfaces have an auto entry for a nic that's missing
[20:25] <cake_guy> "142290 .ICEauthority"
[20:25] <Upl1nk> Hi ppl
[20:25] <CFHowlett> Upl1nk   greetings
[20:25]  * jorendorff looks
[20:25] <iljo> how about if i create user with useradd -p <pass> <user>, does the password need to be hashed in this case?
[20:25] <sparky-> iljo: or if you know C, you could write a trivial program that takes input from stdin, crypt() it, and spits out encrypted password via stderr
[20:25] <guntbert> cake_guy: no, the complete line please
[20:26] <jorendorff> [Si]: /etc/network/interfaces is pretty basic. auto lo; iface lo inet loopback; auto eth0; iface eth0 inet dhcp
[20:26] <Lando_C> Good <timeofday>.
[20:27] <[Si]> jorendorff: that's the two common causes I've seen of that error on boot :( sorry I can't help.
[20:27] <mcloy> i cant understand wget commands.  how to  download a complete webpage including html files, pics, js and css scripts     to that i can brows it FULLY  offline ?
[20:28] <jorendorff> [Si]: thanks for trying! :)
[20:28] <cake_guy> guntbert: That's all it gives me..
[20:28] <Marzatta> mcloy: wget -r url
[20:28] <cake_guy> See for yourself: http://paste.ubuntu.com/906209/
[20:28] <Lando_C> I need help organizing a big bunch of files, scattered on many directory levels, with many many duplicates and many versions of the same files.
[20:28] <sparky-> mcloy: you can mirror a site with wget but don't recurse too deep.  why not use chrome, for example, and "save as"?  that should save the images and stuff for offline browsing too and it's usually limited to that page
[20:29] <Lando_C> sp that I get only the newest version of each file, in a big fat tarball
[20:29] <meerkats> is this a well made live cd into a usb stick? http://imagebin.org/205749
[20:29] <sparky-> lando_c: a porn collector, i see!
[20:29] <guntbert> cake_guy: did you type   ls -l .ICEauthority    ?    (the -l is important)
[20:29] <Lando_C> sparky: close but no
[20:29] <DasEi> Lando_C: fdupes might be your friend
[20:30] <DasEi> !info fdupes
[20:30] <Lando_C> sparky: family photos, old music collection and four leves of /home/<user>/oldhome/oldoldhome/stuff/miscjunk/etc
[20:30] <cake_guy> guntbert: I didn't capitalize the "i" would that make a difference?
[20:30] <mcloy> sparky-,  i need to download FULL site
[20:31] <sparky-> lando_c: i used to have a system that would distribute/organize files by first letter of the name ... maintaines MD5 hashes of all files to detect duplicates, etc.
[20:31] <DasEi> Lando_C: to search for particular files locate is fine after a  sudo updatedb
[20:31] <sparky-> lando_c: is that something you'd like to do?  maybe i can see if i can dig it up
[20:31] <Lando_C> Sparky: yes, that sounds like a good way to start
[20:31] <guntbert> cake_guy: please pastebin the complete output of   ls -lA        in your home directoy
[20:32] <Lando_C> DasEi: thansk, I' will aptget that
[20:32] <sparky-> lando_c: ok then you don't want to distribute anything :-)  i can see if i can find some scripts that deal with the md5 hashes and/or the beatification part
[20:32] <Hattori> has anyone experienced any issues with cisco vpn? i'm with 11.04 and i'm trying to conect to my work vpn, but once connected i lose connection to internet.. i had same issue with the old vpn, which i connect to through shrewsoft client, but googling i found out was a security issue, and modifying a file somewhere i got it to work. I didn't bookmark the page and I can't find it anymore, not even sure if it's the same iss
[20:32] <Hattori> ue. But everyone else seems ok with the new cisco vpn. any suggestion?
[20:32] <sparky-> beautification
[20:32] <sparky-> hattori: you want to do split-routing or something?
[20:33] <Hattori> as in?
[20:33] <jhutchins_wk> Does Unity have some sort of widget where you can go to a web page or an image and click on a point to get the HTML color code for that point?
[20:33] <sparky-> hattori: route work subnets via vpn, everything else via your old internet pipe
[20:33] <Lando_C> Sparky: no, but i finally have a big enough /home partitin to start reading back and sorting out old /home backups.. haha
[20:33] <guntbert> cake_guy: I don't want to rush you but I will not be around much longer - way past bedtime :)
[20:33] <cake_guy> Okay.
[20:34] <Hattori> sparky-: does it mean specify want i want to route throught the vpn?
[20:34] <cake_guy> guntbert: I don't want to keep you from sleep, I am going to do a reinstall of ubuntu soon anyway, so it doesn't matter.
[20:34] <slyraider> guys, help. Ubuntu 11.10 32 bit, need to install libc6-dev-i386. apt-get says "Package libc6-dev-i386 is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source". Hot to fight that?
[20:34] <DasEi> jhutchins_wk: not sure if I gort you right, you can use tamper data on FF (plugin) to get the code of an opened site
[20:34] <DasEi> got*
[20:35] <guntbert> cake_guy: did you run  ls -lA on you home dir yet? thats a matter of seconds
[20:35] <sparky-> hattori: yes, exactly.  cisco vpn (and the network-manager applet) has the capability to route only specific subnets via the vpn interface.  but you have to configure it
[20:35] <iljo> so, i got another idea
[20:35] <Alexanderchr> Jordan_U: Got rid of the GPT signatures and it's working. Thanks!
[20:35] <iljo> i change the password with
[20:35] <iljo> echo "username:pass" | chpasswd
[20:36] <joubin> tell me the real passwd :D
[20:36] <Hattori> sparky-: something like "*.company.com"?
[20:37] <sparky-> hattori: no, you have to enter specific subnet numbers :-)
[20:37] <sparky-> hattori: (route -n)
[20:38] <Alexanderchr> How large should the swap partion be?
[20:38] <s0ullight> hello, is there anyone who can speak spanish who is willing to check a 300 word text for grammar/spelling mistakes?
[20:38] <Lando_C> dasEi: i would liek to have an opposite, one that says which files are unique, because 90% of the files are in five copies each
[20:38] <cake_guy> guntbert: all it's doing is displaying all the files in the current directory?
[20:38] <Xabster> s0ullight, post it and i might
[20:38] <CFHowlett> Alexanderchr   I think the general formula is 2X your ram
[20:38] <guntbert> !ot | s0ullight you have been told before
[20:38] <Alexanderchr> Ok thanks
[20:38] <s0ullight> Xabster: http://pastebin.com/9jRdUqqb
[20:38] <jey> why does update-apt-xapian-index need to peg my CPU at 100% usage for minutes and minutes every few days?
[20:39] <jey> what the hell uses the xapian apt index?
[20:39] <sparky-> lando_c: why not at the simplest, "find /top-level-of-the-bunch-of-files -type f -print0 | xargs -0r md5sum | tee md5-hashes.txt" and sit back + have a beer
[20:39] <Laurenceb_> hi
[20:39] <Laurenceb_> i have issues wiht my network connection
[20:39] <s0ullight> Xabster: i'm level 1 spanish student, it's a partial summary of a book i had to read
[20:39] <Laurenceb_> - wifi
[20:39] <guntbert> cake_guy: yes, with details about permissions, I need to know if my suspicion is correct
[20:39] <Laurenceb_> it keeps disconnecting
[20:39] <DasEi> Lando_C: man diff, that command shows line-wise differences
[20:39] <Xabster> lol s0ullight, i read your question as "danish" not "spanish" -- im sorry
[20:39] <Lando_C> sparky: hmm you might be on to it.
[20:39] <SmartTowel> s0ullight, pm me the message
[20:39] <amigamia> i was wondering if it is acceptable to rename a directory if i wanted it to be without the uppercase first character to lowercase like Directory to directory ?
[20:39] <Laurenceb_> and i have to reboot the machine to reconnect
[20:39] <Laurenceb_> can anyone help?
[20:39] <Lando_C> DasEi: ok
[20:39] <sparky-> lando_c: once you have the exhaustive list of md5 hashes, you can sort it, uniq it, then diff the sorted version from uniq version and you KNOW which ones were not unique (they would have been taken out)
[20:39] <Laurenceb_> this is a lenovo thinkpad
[20:40] <sparky-> lando_c: did you get that?
[20:40] <amigamia> what model laurenceb? i worked for lenovo :D
[20:40] <amigamia> which thinkpad model
[20:40] <s0ullight> Xabster, thanks anyway!
[20:40] <Lando_C> sparky;: I think I do.. if your fist command will giv all md5 hashes
[20:40] <urbancommando> jello everyone
[20:40] <DasEi> amigamia: can do it, fastest by mv, safer by creating the new dir , then rsync -R the content over
[20:40] <CFHowlett> urbancommando   greetings
[20:40] <sparky-> lando_c: it will :-)
[20:40] <amigamia> or i worked for ibm supporting lenovo
[20:40] <Lando_C> the rest is very easy
[20:40] <Lando_C> thanks!
[20:41] <Laurenceb_> SL510 amigamia
[20:41] <yokai> close
[20:41] <amigamia> just a sec laurenceb
[20:41] <urbancommando> anybody know anything about ... pc bread boards or what ever you call them.. (panda board)
[20:41] <sparky-> lando_c: minor details like cutting out only the md5 signatures and sort/uniq/diff only those signatures.  then once you find the dupes you can grep for the filename in the original list
[20:41] <sparky-> lando_c: it's a multi-step process, but that's what makes scripting fun :-)  and useful
[20:41] <cake_guy> guntbert: Taking forever to load..
[20:41] <cake_guy> Just a sec..
[20:41] <DasEi> urbancommando: try asking in #hardware
[20:41] <amigamia> laurenceb is this a new event or is this an ongoing issue?
[20:42] <urbancommando> ahh nice ty
[20:42] <Laurenceb_> new
[20:42] <guntbert> cake_guy: :)
[20:42] <Laurenceb_> im one 68% signal strength
[20:42] <Laurenceb_> *on
[20:42] <ejv> amigamia / DasEi : fyi, rsync -R doesn't mean recursive, but relative.
[20:42] <cake_guy> guntbert: http://paste.ubuntu.com/906231/
[20:43] <DasEi> ejv: right, rsync -r it is
[20:43] <DasEi> amigamia: can do it, fastest by mv, safer by creating the new dir , then rsync -r the content over
[20:43] <amigamia> thanks dasei
[20:44] <ejv> for the most part, -r is usually unnecessary if you specify explicit paths. it will automatically recurse.
[20:44] <amigamia> ok laurenceb have you  checked to see if there are any drivers under system administration additional drivers?
[20:44] <guntbert> cake_guy: I was right, look at line 120 - that file is owned by root  - now type (carefully):   sudo rm .ICEauthorithy    afterwards you will be able to log in again
[20:44] <Laurenceb_> amigamia ok
[20:44] <FernandoCueva> does it matter what version of lubuntu I use
[20:44] <cake_guy> guntbert: Thanks a million!
[20:44] <amigamia> it could be a probable update that has modified your config "typical windows issues" btw
[20:45] <CFHowlett> FernandoCueva   IMHO, LTS releases are best
[20:45] <sparky-> typical WHAT issues?
[20:45] <guntbert> cake_guy: you're welcome :-)  and for the future remember !gksudo
[20:45] <Laurenceb_> amigamia: no proprietory drivers
[20:45] <amigamia> my suspecision is that there are under cover microsoft programmers in here masquerading as helpers and really are sabatours.
[20:45] <amigamia> laurenceb ok
[20:45] <jey> what uses/queries the Xapian apt index?
[20:45] <amigamia> what ver are you running laurenceb?
[20:45] <jey> does aptitude search rely on it?
[20:45] <Laurenceb_> 10.04lts
[20:45] <cake_guy> Okay, thanks guntbert
[20:46] <ssureshot> whats the first order in shutdown K99 or K01 ?
[20:46] <Laurenceb_> amigamia: im connecting to a bt homhub that can be remote firmware upgraded by the service provider
[20:46] <decksmasher> could some one please tell me the command to start fluxbox, i want to add it to the startup program list..thanks
[20:46] <Laurenceb_> *homehub
[20:46] <Laurenceb_> it could be its had a firmware upgrade thats fired this off
[20:46] <heyoooo> I have a Linux server with an existing sshd setup. For my purposes, following a guide that teaches how to perform a certain task, I need to set the AuthorizedKeysFile parameter in sshd_config to something. It is currently commented out. Is there a chance uncommenting it breaks the previous setup?
[20:46] <Lando_C> sparky: guess I'll have to learn scripting after all :-/ It's the obvious solution but hard in practice.. what if some names are in the wrong encoding and have spaces and eightbit (or multibyte) chars inthem?
[20:46] <heyoooo> err, Ubuntu
[20:46] <Laurenceb_> seems that heavy use can cause the network connection to fail
[20:47] <amigamia> i am not trying to switch responisbility but you might check to see if there was a firware upgrade becasue it isnt anything with linux updates that would be as a windows update is.
[20:47] <Laurenceb_> just irc runs fine
[20:47] <Laurenceb_> try to load a lot of webpages it disconnects
[20:47] <sparky-> heyoooo: of course.  why would you change it from the default anyway?  and if you did, sure it will break the previously-exchanged keys
[20:47] <amigamia> how many connections at a heavy point laurenceb?
[20:47] <amigamia> oh ok
[20:47] <Laurenceb_> just me connecting
[20:47] <amigamia> oh ok
[20:47] <heyoooo> sparky-: no, by default it's not used at all. No authorized_keys file.
[20:47] <Lando_C> gawd its 406585 files
[20:47] <amigamia> have you rebooted the router?
[20:47] <heyoooo> sparky-: I want to use it cause this guide says to: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[20:48] <Laurenceb_> amigamia: yes
[20:48] <Laurenceb_> thats what triggered this issue
[20:48] <amigamia> try this laurenceb do a discharge on the laptop
[20:48] <Lando_C> and I suspect I can delete 4/5 ths of them
[20:48] <Laurenceb_> the router sometimes crashes
[20:48] <sparky-> heyoooo: you're supposed to populate your own ~/.authorized_keys file ... that what you're talking about?
[20:48] <amigamia> i see
[20:48] <Laurenceb_> i think its line noise
[20:48] <amigamia> do a discharge on the laptop
[20:48] <Laurenceb_> as it correlates with landline use
[20:48] <amigamia> do you know how to discharge a lenovo / thinkpad?
[20:48] <Laurenceb_> what do you mean discharge?
[20:49] <Laurenceb_> nope
[20:49] <heyoooo> sparky-: sshd_config says "#AuthorizedKeysFile     %h/.ssh/authorized_keys"  (i.e., commented out)  . Wouldn't my ~/.authorized_keys be useless?
[20:50] <amigamia> power the system off, disconnect the ac adapter cord, remove the battery. next with nothign powering the laptop press the power button up/down 10 times and then hold it down for 30 seconds.  what you are doing is removing all the static off the motherboard. belive me this is real.
[20:50] <sparky-> lando_c: i got in the habit of making md5 of source / dest when i copy massive amount of files and sort/diff them afterwards to be sure nothing went wrong during the copy :-)
[20:50] <FernandoCueva> the lubuntu download page doesn't specify which version is lts
[20:50] <Laurenceb_> amigamia: ok thats for that tip
[20:50] <DasEi> !lts | FernandoCueva
[20:50] <Laurenceb_> amigamia: im doing work atm - ill do it next time the network breaks
[20:50] <amigamia> ok if you have video issues or the laptop wont start, do this same process to clear the staic electricity
[20:50] <imbezol> heyoooo: that's the default location
[20:50] <sparky-> heyoooo: of course not.  that means "i want the name of the authorized key file to be such and such".  the fact it's commented out means it's using the default name.  can you just please edit the file already?
[20:51] <heyoooo> imbezol: so even if the line is commented out, it's still using it?
[20:51] <Laurenceb_> amigamia: surely you mean backup ram power?
[20:51] <sparky-> heyoooo: cp someones-public-key ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[20:51] <heyoooo> sparky-: ok, thanks. I didn't know that.
[20:51] <imbezol> heyoooo: ya.. the config file generally has the defaults there.. if you uncomment and specify something different then it will change the config
[20:51] <amigamia> after you finish laurenceb then you can replace the battery, reconnect the ac adapter and power it on
[20:51] <arkamex> hello, some body know, any thing about, making proxy servers, with 2 conexions of Internet Ads ?? (I need some info about)
[20:51] <amigamia> nope laurenceb i mean the static that is stored in the chips on the systemboard.
[20:52] <amigamia> it's an ibm trick we do for ibm thinkpads / lenovo thinkpads and their systems in general.
[20:52] <Laurenceb_> sure thats backup ram etc
[20:52] <Laurenceb_> its not "static"
[20:52] <amigamia> well that is what they told us and it works is alll i know.
[20:52] <tyrone> evening people. I have a strange error. My Ubuntu software center won't start and it seems to have a python traceback where it says there is no module named lazr.restfulserver
[20:52] <FernandoCueva> the lubuntu download page doesn't specify which version is lts
[20:53] <FernandoCueva> !lubuntu
[20:53] <amigamia> but this is just to clear the laptop from being an issue. i suspect it is the router.
[20:53] <sparky-> amigamia: hey, do you guys prevent the reading/writing of the bios passwords on the old thinkpads that use the atmel eeprom chip (with RFID capability)?
[20:53] <Laurenceb_> amigamia: yeah
[20:53] <sparky-> amigamia: i was reading the datasheet of the atmel part the other day and it clearly said the eeprom can be read/set via RFID (which kind of would make the bios password thing useless)
[20:53] <amigamia> brb boyfreind on telephone brb
[20:53] <Laurenceb_> i rebooted router, laptoip woulnt connect
[20:53] <amigamia> send me private msg sparky
[20:54] <amigamia> bbiab telephone.
[20:54] <Laurenceb_> rebooted laptop, now its slightly dodgey
[20:54] <amigamia> give it a second to fully initialize laurenceb bbiab on the phone.
[20:55] <jcole20> erver irc.droidroms.net
[20:55] <decksmasher> i want to add fluxbox to the startup program but i dont no the commands, please could some one help thanks
[20:55] <TeamRocket1233c> How terrible is Webmin on Ubuntu? One of the people in the Ubuntu Forums chat uses it all the time on his Ubuntu servers.
[20:55] <jey> when i have package foo installed, how can I query to find out what other installed packages depend upon foo?
[20:56] <jey> I tried "apt-get remove foo" but it didn't complain about any dependencies no longer being satisfied... so I think there might be a soft-dependency of some sort on foo?
[20:56] <jey> specifically, foo = apt-xapian-index. i want to remove it because all it ever does is wedge my machine at 100% cpu for a long time
[20:57] <urbancommando> apt-get --purge remove foo
[20:57] <jey> that is not my question
[20:57] <OerHeks> jey use the --purge option to remove all data too
[20:58] <jey> oh, wait, maybe. /me looks up purge
[20:58] <urbancommando> purge will remove dep
[20:58] <sparky-> jey: "apt-cache rdepends ..."
[20:58] <jey> sparky-, thank you.
[20:58] <i7c> is there any reason why netstat only shows a port listening on ipv6 when it also clearly listens on ipv4?
[21:00] <tyrone> Nobody know what might cause this error? I have a strange error. My Ubuntu software center won't start and it seems to have a python traceback where it says there is no module named lazr.restfulserver Any ideas welcome
[21:00] <sparky-> i7c: your netstat options?
[21:01] <i7c> sparky-: mhm for example it shows ssh on ipv4 and ipv6 but znc only on ipv6... but i connect via ipv4 so i know that it listens on ipv4 too.
[21:01] <tyrone> i7c, I am assuming the port is not on a ppp0 connection?
[21:01] <i7c> on eth0
[21:02] <sparky-> i7c: netstat -plunt | grep tcp | grep -v tcp6 ?
[21:03] <i7c> sparky-: that shows 3 open ports. 22, 8000, 6600. all on tcp.
[21:04] <sparky-> i7c: you sure it's tcp and not udp?  :-)  (or even unix?)
[21:04] <i7c> the first column says three times tcp
[21:05] <i7c> what does that mean now? :D
[21:06] <Gritstone> Hello
[21:06] <Gritstone> What is a good client for Twitter on Ubuntu?
[21:06] <CFHowlett> Gritstone   gwibber
[21:07] <Gritstone> CFHowlett thank you.
[21:07] <urbancommando> lol killroy
[21:08] <K350> howto compile pascal code  with fpc?
[21:10] <ejv> K350: man fpc
[21:12] <HarryG> Could someone help me with backtrack 5 r1, or is this ubuntu only?
[21:12] <CFHowlett> HarryG   ubuntu only, sorry.
[21:12] <HarryG> Is there a backtrack channel?
[21:13] <CFHowlett> !backtrack|harryg
[21:13] <HarryG> Thanks!
[21:14] <agtmcgarry> f
[21:14] <agtmcgarry>  
[21:18] <jhutchins_wk> DasEi: Yeah, if it's straightforward code you can just snag it from "View Source", but often it's _not_ straightforward or it's an image.
[21:21] <mcloy> sparky-,  i need to download FULL site
[21:23] <sparky-> mcloy: huh what?  oh, "wget -nc -c -r" ?
[21:23] <sparky-> mcloy: i think i used to do "-Nc" (timestamp check)
[21:24] <mcloy> sparky-,  iam trying to download http://www.artificialstudio.com/  but sometimes theres no style layout  and sometimes the links go online http://blabla      no the local
[21:25] <sparky-> mcloy: that's why you have to read the manpage of "wget" and limit connections to specific domains
[21:26] <mcloy> sparky-,  isnt there a simple command for all that
[21:27] <sparky-> mcloy: i also have simple ways to make money too.  interested?
[21:27] <jrib> mcloy: in addition to wget, check out httrack
[21:28] <mcloy> sparky-,  what would you use?
[21:28] <Gorkyman> I need to access ubuntu partitions from windows... any way of doing that ?
[21:28] <Foxandxss> hello, any beta 2 user with twinview? Does the new unity bar stuff for dualhead works?
[21:28] <sparky-> mcloy: wget serves the purpose and if you need to do this often it helps to understand it (even just once, as you can do the same thing over and over again)
[21:29] <mcloy> sparky-,  i read it and used      wget -pk url       and wget -rk url        and none worked
[21:29] <nightrid3r> Gorkyman: http://www.diskinternals.com/linux-reader/
[21:29] <mcloy> sparky-,  now what should i do
[21:30] <sparky-> mcloy: wget -Nc -r --domains=artificialstudio.com http://www.artificialstudio.com/
[21:30] <sparky-> mcloy: seriously? :-p
[21:31] <doug_f>  /join #ubuntu+1
[21:31] <meerkats> is this a well made live cd into a usb stick? http://imagebin.org/205749
[21:33] <mcloy> sparky-,  not working. see for your self
[21:33] <Foxandxss> meerkats: I create bootable usb with unetbootin
[21:34] <meerkats> Foxandxss, so did I, it would help me a lot to say that es, everything looks good to go, or no...
[21:34] <meerkats> yes*
[21:35] <sparky-> mcloy: 123 files in 9 subdirectories
[21:35] <Foxandxss> why don't you try?
[21:35] <Foxandxss> is faster
[21:35] <mcloy> sparky-,  opeb index.html :)
[21:36] <sparky-> mcloy: i take it you don't want to set up a fake domain to serve files off of what you just mirrored?
[21:36] <mcloy> sparky-,  open*   and click a link.       if you see a css effect in index.html in the first place
[21:36] <mcloy> sparky-,  what do you mean?
[21:36] <sparky-> mcloy: i see now you expect a lot of heavy lifting done for you :-)  sorry, i don't know of something that will "just work" for your purpose
[21:36] <ses1984> if i have ssh access to a box, how can i turn on vnc access?
[21:37] <mcloy> sparky-,  open*   and click a link.       if you see a css effect in index.html in the first place
[21:37] <sparky-> mcloy: once you mirror something you could easily set up apache to serve documents off of the documentroot you just mirrored
[21:37] <mcloy> sparky-,  hmm.. dont do anything. just open a page
[21:38] <ses1984> every time i google anything with vnc and ssh in the query, it is talking about ssh tunneling to encrypt vnc traffic
[21:38] <ses1984> it seems impossible to find something like, how to enable vnc if all you have is ssh access
[21:39] <sparky-> mcloy: wget -Nc -r www.artificialstudio.com/../styles/
[21:40] <sparky-> mcloy: put styles one directory above www.artificialstudio.com
[21:41] <sparky-> ses1984: you'd ssh into the destination server and run "vncserver"
[21:43] <mcloy> sparky-,  you see. that is the problem. how do i tackle such problems auto matically
[21:43] <sparky-> mcloy: that's a rather NP-complete problem :-)
[21:45] <mcloy> mcloy,  npcomplete?
[21:46] <Alexius64> ciao belli
[21:46] <CFHowlett> !it|Alexius64
[21:47] <Alexius64> tanks
[21:47] <hfirbdgihreubvir> server irc.coldfront.net
[21:47]  * hfirbdgihreubvir sighs
[21:48] <Xgates_Ubuntu> Got a new laptop, well actually bought it off my kid to help him out and Dell 15R and I run Slackware on this actually and the backlight doesn't work, so I had a Ubuntu 10.04 LTS cd which I'm on running live as I chat and I see that the backlight works, so would anyone know what Ubuntu does to get this to work for various laptops I might be able to do in Slack?
[21:51] <mcloy> mcloy,  npcomplete?
[21:53] <`lm`> Hey, I've got the following bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/curl/+bug/940431
[21:54] <`lm`> I installed the latest versions of libp11, libgnutls, and libcurl3, but it hasn't fixed it
[21:54] <`lm`> let me pastebin version numbers
[21:55] <`lm`> http://pastebin.com/D909Lg73
[21:55] <`lm`> How do I debug from here?
[21:56] <Sazpaimon> is there a way to change the kernel console after the kernel has loaded, or is the only way via the kernel command line?
[21:58] <bouma> can i access a list of the programs manually added to the system??
[21:59] <ezio> sorry for asking this question in here ... but i need to hit a lot of people
[21:59] <bouma> i installed a whole list of things to compare trees and want to reuse one of these programs
[22:00] <ezio> anyone in here good with sport bikes?  i need someone to help me on kijiji to pick out a good bike.
[22:00] <ezio> sorry everyone
[22:00] <ezio> thakns
[22:00] <bouma> how do i find a program to run, that i might have previously installed
[22:00] <ezio> bouma, apt-cache
[22:02] <kosaidpo> hello
[22:02] <kosaidpo> any one knows why when i type www.google.com it takes me to localhost ??
[22:02] <kosaidpo> any one knows why when i type www.google.com it takes me to localhost ??
[22:02] <nightrid3r> kosaidpo: check /etc/hosts
[22:03] <kosaidpo> Night did it and  all is normal in that file
[22:04] <mirak> hi
[22:04] <mirak> how can i start lvm from busybox ?
[22:06] <doug_f> Question: I have a local Repository I am Syncing for Precise and want users to be able to use it when they upgrade from Oneric. How can I get the upgrade to use the local repository?
[22:06] <bouma> ezio: can apt-cache list programs installed by chronology
[22:06] <bouma> ezio: or installation order
[22:07] <webnet> I work as an IT manager and im trying to lock down the desktops that run ubuntu so the users cant install debs all over or load up games from the software center. anyone know any good apps for this also to restrict what shows up in the menus? Tried Sabayon and custard and both crashed out a few seconds after starting
[22:07] <pangolin> doug_f, you would have to set that in /etc/apt/aources.list but exactly how I don't know
[22:07] <pangolin> sources.list*
[22:08] <doug_f> pangolin, I was sure it would be there but is there something with the upgrade that pulls down new sources.list? Can it be overridden?
[22:08] <nightrid3r> kosaidpo: where does plus.google.com take you ?
[22:09] <pangolin> doug_f, honestly I don't know how to go about using a local repo
[22:10] <pangolin> doug_f, this may be useful https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Offline/Repository
[22:11] <noobhatesgr> hi all
[22:11] <pangolin> doug_f, the instructions are for karmic (edit where needed for your purpose) but should work
[22:14] <doug_f> pangolin, I wonder if it is enough to simply point to the new repo and run update?
[22:14] <shinobi420> greetings #ubuntu
[22:14] <doug_f> pangolin, If I recall that is how debian behaves.
[22:14] <shinobi420> can someone recommend a hard-drive cloning tool for ubuntu?
[22:15] <shinobi420> something like acronis for windows
[22:15] <doug_f> ddrescue
[22:15] <pangolin> doug_f, you would need to ##comment out the deb lines already in that file, but yes it would be enough to run sudo apt-get update so that apt knows to use the deb file://localrepo
[22:15] <kosaidpo> any idea why when i type googe.com it takes me to localhost ??
[22:15] <DasEi> shinobi420: or just use dd
[22:16] <doug_f> shinobi420, use ddrescue if you expect some failures.
[22:16] <jrib> !away > XuMuK|znc
[22:16] <shinobi420> ddrescue eh?
[22:16] <shinobi420> thanks for that information
[22:17] <nightrid3r> kosaidpo: there could be a problem with your dns servers
[22:18] <kosaidpo> nightrid3r: please remind me in what file i can check that ??
[22:18] <nightrid3r> kosaidpo: try to ping plus.google.com and see if that goes to localhost (127.0.0.1) to
[22:20] <dario_> hi all
[22:21] <mcloy>  how to  download a complete webpage including html files, pics, js and css scripts     to that i can brows it offline ?
[22:22] <jrib> mcloy: same way we told you before.
[22:23] <mcloy> jrib,  wget -r is not showing sometimes layout and  the links are always not working
[22:23] <jrib> mcloy: use wget or httrack.  Read their documentation, as I don't know their options offhand
[22:24] <mcloy> hm
[22:25] <tjiggi_fo> mcloy, webhttrack is in the repositories
[22:26] <mcloy> jrib,  tjiggi_fo  webhttrack is better?
[22:26] <tjiggi_fo> mcloy, it's for ubuntu
[22:26] <jrib> mcloy: webhttrack is a web interface for httrack
[22:26] <mcloy> jrib,  tjiggi_fo i thought wget was enough. why cant i make it work
[22:27] <kosaidpo> nightrid3r: you still there ??
[22:27] <nightrid3r> yup
[22:29] <kosaidpo> anyone kno why when i type google.com it takes me to localhost ??
[22:29] <elkclone> omg omg
[22:29] <Chaser> kosaidpo, /etc/hosts ?
[22:30] <kosaidpo> Chaser: it looks normal tho
[22:31] <noobhatesgr> aslkdf
[22:31] <Chaser> kosaidpo, no proxies configured in your browser ?
[22:31] <kosaidpo> Chaser: noo
[22:31] <nightrid3r> kosaidpo: do 'cat /etc/resolv.conf' and tell me what the nameserver line says
[22:33] <kosaidpo> nightrid3r:  this # Generated by NetworkManager
[22:33] <kosaidpo> nameserver 192.168.1.254
[22:33] <kosaidpo>  btw im tetherin from my phone ;]
[22:33] <nightrid3r> you connect trough a wifi router ?
[22:34] <kosaidpo> nightrid3r:  may that be the problem
[22:34] <kosaidpo> nightrid3r: noo im using my phone as a modem thats all
[22:34] <nightrid3r> check your router if you can set nameserver manualy
[22:34] <nightrid3r> oh
[22:34] <nightrid3r> the the problem is with your provider
[22:35] <nightrid3r> can you set your own dns servers on the phone ?
[22:35] <bouma> ah meld is a great program, any one else a fan? or know of something better
[22:35] <kosaidpo> nightrid3r:  well it seems i cant cus network manager will over write it
[22:36] <kosaidpo> i mean the file
[22:36] <nightrid3r> i mean on the phone
[22:36] <arlink> server.sh | myjob.sh | server.sh will this pipe data back and forth between these two scripts if server is running in the background and myjob runs only once?
[22:37] <kosaidpo> nightrid3r: i guess it must be on the apn setting right ??
[22:37] <nightrid3r> probably
[22:38] <nightrid3r> most phones will not allow what we want to do now but maybe you are lucky
[22:41] <arlink> anybobody know about pipes?
[22:41] <Bodsda> arlink: get mario on top of it, and press the down arrow
[22:42] <mydogsnameisrudy> loves the smell of a pipe
[22:42] <pangolin> Bodsda, not very helpful
[22:42] <pangolin> mydogsnameisrudy, you either
[22:42] <mydogsnameisrudy> sorry
[22:42] <arlink> or redirecting stdout and stdin from the terminal/monitor to a file
[22:42] <pangolin> keep the "funny" comments for #ubuntu-offtopic please
[22:42] <Bodsda> I blame the orignal question, but fair point pangolin
[22:42] <mydogsnameisrudy> yes sir
[22:43] <arlink> my question is valid
[22:43] <Bodsda> arlink: For stdout     <command> > file     or   <command> >> file   for append
[22:44] <arlink> i was wondering how to send the info back and forth between two scripts if one was running in the background
[22:45] <arlink> why didnt you use | instead?
[22:45] <Bodsda> arlink: dbus should be used for programs to cmmunicate
[22:45] <Bodsda> arlink: pipes send the output of one command to the input of another     ls -lah /var/www/ | grep -i somefile    for instance
[22:45] <arlink> bodsda do you know what | is?
[22:46] <arlink> yes thats what i want to do
[22:46] <Bodsda> arlink: ok, is there something you don't understand about the use of a | then?
[22:47] <arlink> but send the output of the second file to the first when the second is through
[22:47] <Bodsda> arlink: huh? what are you trying to achieve?
[22:48] <arlink> server.sh | myjob.sh | server.sh makes sense?
[22:49] <lagittajaHTC--> I have lubuntu on my laptop. It had 60gb hdd. How in the name off.. Is the installation hogging it completely. I found these files in /var kern.log kern.log.1 sys.log and sys.log.1 and they are taking 51gb space
[22:49] <Bodsda> arlink: well, that will probably work, because the output is only sent to the next command upon completion of the first command, but I would strongly recommend that you rethink what your doing as there is almost certainly a better way. What does server.sh and myjob.sh do?
[22:49] <Bodsda> lagittajaHTC--: that would suggest that you have some serious problems causing excessive logging.
[22:50] <lagittajaHTC--> Interesting
[22:50] <arlink> server.sh is a server and myjob scrapes information from websites
[22:50] <OerHeks> lagittajaHTC--, 51 gb space left ?
[22:50] <Bodsda> lagittajaHTC--: have you tried reading these logs to find out?
[22:50] <Bodsda> arlink: so, what would your server output that you need to input into your web scraper?
[22:50] <arlink> when i run the command will it stay valid forever?
[22:50] <lagittajaHTC--> No the four log files TAKE 51Gb :D i got 166mb left
[22:51] <Bodsda> arlink: no, only until the last command completes
[22:51] <rhizmoe> howdy. i haven't had an optical drive for some time now. i've installed a new one (sata), but it's not showing up. fstab?
[22:51] <arlink> my server will output the query
[22:51] <lagittajaHTC--> And yes I tried opening them but couldn't because of some error cannot read
[22:51] <Bodsda> lagittajaHTC--: copy them off to an external drive for reviewing and then delete them
[22:51] <arlink> i want to keep the command valid forever
[22:52] <splash> hi im new at ubuntu and need  some help with video card drivers can some1 help me ?
[22:52] <arlink> server.sh | myjob.sh | server.sh &
[22:52] <nightrid3r> ~ask
[22:52] <Bodsda> arlink: I would suggest that you refactor your code and perform the recursive action from one place
[22:52] <Bodsda> arlink: that wont do what you expect
[22:53] <arlink> i cant keep the myjob code inside server.sh because it will run forever
[22:53] <splash> well i just installed ubuntu on my Dell Latitude D630 laptop and it seems i have some standart video card driver i have hard time installing my intel  gm965 driver i cant locate xorg.conf file i cant make 1 too
[22:54] <splash> splash@MDFC:/$ Xorg :1 -configure
[22:54] <splash> Fatal server error: Cannot open log file "/var/log/Xorg.1.log"
[22:54] <splash> Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support at http://wiki.x.org for help.
[22:54] <splash> ddxSigGiveUp: Closing log """
[22:54] <splash> splash@MDFC:/$ sudo cp /root/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf cp: cannot stat `/root/xorg.conf.new': No such file or directory """" Any ideas help me please...
[22:54] <arlink> and theres no way to keep a pipe running?
[22:54] <FloodBot1> splash: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:54] <Bodsda> arlink: myjob.sh never ends? then how can you pipe the output back into your server. Like I said, refactor your code, your going about this the wrong way
[22:54] <arlink> myjob should only run once but server.sh makes it run forever
[22:55] <lagittajaHTC--> Bodsda I could do that but dont have another computer in my disposal right now nor a external hdd that big. Could the problem be the battery in my laptop? It has poor contact and if I move or bend the frame it will go beep battery hooked up beep battery hooked off. I removed the battery now and I'll try restarting the laptop
[22:55] <Bodsda> arlink: then fix your code
[22:56] <Bodsda> lagittajaHTC--: potentially. What happens if you try to read the tail? I forget the exact syntax and I'm not on a Linux machine atm     tail -n 10 /var/log/<logfile>    I think - ish
[22:57] <lagittajaHTC--> I cant read the log files. I get error cannot read wrong argument if that makes any sense bodsda
[22:58] <Bodsda> lagittajaHTC--: hmm, thats not an error i've seen before. Can you pastebin the error and the command you use?
[22:58] <dalek_> running ubuntu 11.04 , while using Gimp, the mouse pointer frequently locks up for no reason. I can move the pointer around, but none of the mouse button function and I can't click anything either within Gimp or Gnome desktop. This only ever happens while using Gimp. Mouse buttons eventually un-locks if I fight with the keyboard for a minute. What causes this and is there any way to fix it?
[22:59] <usr13> dalek_: What hardware?  (cpu, mem etc.)
[23:00] <usr13> dalek_: memtest
[23:01] <dalek_> usr13, amd athlon64 3500+, 1Gb ram.
[23:04] <lagittaja> Bodsda I marked the new command with **'s http://pastebin.com/RV6V4Cyn
[23:05] <heahea> http://youtu.be/jj8DSph5j70
[23:05] <heahea> http://youtu.be/jj8DSph5j70
[23:05] <heahea> http://youtu.be/jj8DSph5j70
[23:05] <FloodBot1> heahea: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:09] <Bodsda> lagittaja: which file is eating the space?
[23:10] <lagittaja> all of them, right now syslog.1 and the kern.log and kern.log.1 are eating the space
[23:10] <lagittaja> syslog is only 100kb now
[23:10] <Aethor> hi all :) any network guru available for help/advice?
[23:11] <CFHowlett> Aethor   might want to also ask in #ubuntu-server  ...
[23:11] <Aethor> ok, going to try there, thanks :)
[23:12] <Bodsda> lagittaja: hmm, can you give me 100 lines from the kern log
[23:13] <maletor> If I create a cname from https://secure.example.com to website.example2.com does website.example2.com need to have it's own SSL certificate for this to work properly?
[23:13] <lagittaja> Yes Bodsda, looks like lots of wifi info or something :S http://pastebin.com/Na2xXyfa
[23:15] <Bodsda> lagittaja: and the output of this please.    ls -lah /var/log/
[23:16] <lagittaja> Bodsda http://pastebin.com/JDMFFp6a
[23:16] <yzhd> Hi guys. I'm trying to install sensors-applet.. but I need a lot of packages to do that.. Currently, I need this one: Requested 'gdk-pixbuf-2.0 >= 2.22.0' but version of GdkPixbuf is 2.20.0
[23:16] <yzhd> how can I install it ?
[23:16] <yzhd> I can't find the tar.gz to install.. I'm confused :S
[23:17] <Bodsda> lagittaja: the biggest file there is syslog.2.gz and is 121MB --- still having disk space issues?
[23:19] <lagittaja> Decided to try and -s rm the files. I'll keep an eye on the logs if they decide show up again. I think the darn battery was the problem.
[23:19] <Bodsda> lagittaja: yeah - I can't see any problems atm though
[23:21] <lagittaja> Thanks for your help Bodsda, much appreciated.
[23:22] <Bodsda> lagittaja: no problem, gimme a shout if it starts again, and I'll take another look
[23:22] <maletor> If I create a cname from https://secure.example.com to website.example2.com does website.example2.com need to have it's own SSL certificate for this to work properly?
[23:23] <douglaslucas> When I installed Ocelot off a CD I selected "encrypt home directory"; since this is not full disk encryption, what privacy dangers remain for me? And if I do choose to go with full disk encryption, what program should I use to do so? :)
[23:27] <l3d> someone point me too reinstalling grub to save my ubuntu install
[23:27] <wylde> !grub | l3d
[23:28] <CFHowlett> !grug2|l3d
[23:28] <CFHowlett> !grub2|l3d
[23:28] <jjkingofsouth> test
[23:28] <Bodsda> l3d: top 2 links - https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ubuntu+grub2+reinstall+wiki&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-beta
[23:28] <Bodsda> jjkingofsouth: pong
[23:30] <maletor> If I create a cname from https://secure.example.com to website.example2.com does website.example2.com need to have it's own SSL certificate for this to work properly?
[23:32] <CFHowlett> !apt-lock>me
[23:32] <ETronik> is it possoble to ruen off the messages about people joining and leaving the room?
[23:33] <Bodsda> ETronik: yeah, what client are you using?
[23:33] <ETronik> default ubuntu one
[23:33] <Bodsda> ETronik: xchat?
[23:33] <ETronik> empathy
[23:34] <Bodsda> ETronik: I may have to retract my earlier statement - http://askubuntu.com/questions/30249/in-empathy-irc-how-do-i-turn-off-the-joined-and-disconnected-messages
[23:34] <drecute> hi
[23:34] <CFHowlett> drecute   greetings
[23:34] <drecute> I will like to know, what is the common way to virtualize ubuntu
[23:35] <ETronik> eheheh
[23:35] <drecute> using remote desktop
[23:35] <drecute> i'm not talking about ssh
[23:35] <Bodsda> drecute: Do you mean run a vm  on ubuntu or run ubntu in a vm on another host OS?
[23:35] <drecute> the later
[23:35] <Bodsda> drecute: virtualbox is a popular solution
[23:35] <Bodsda> !virtualbox
[23:37] <drecute> ok
[23:37] <drecute> let me explain a little bit
[23:37] <drecute> I'm using vmware desktop manager
[23:38] <drecute> and I'm connecting to a ubuntu machine
[23:39] <Bodsda> drecute: define 'connecting' - and please see !enter
[23:39] <drecute> !enter
[23:40] <drecute> what do you mean really
[23:41] <drecute> anyway, I simply mean allowing access to a ubuntu box through vmware desktop manager
[23:43] <lesshaste> how can I set up dual display with the nvidia driver?
[23:43] <lesshaste> and which of the many nvidia drivers oneiric offers should I be using?
[23:46] <^Mike> Can someone tell me about the categories of packages & what support they receive? Specifically, what packages that are available in the ubuntu repos get supported by canonical, which ones get security updates, etc. I'm sure it is written down somewhere, but I can't find it
[23:46] <ETronik> so.. xchat or xchat-gnome? and why?
[23:47] <^Mike> ETronik: xchat-gnome is not good - use xchat
[23:47] <CFHowlett> ETronik   chatzilla - easier to manage
[23:47] <blackmatrix_ny> Is it possible for a malicious website to embed a javascript that installs and runs as the user on a linux machine without having to gain root privilege ?
[23:47]  * ^Mike suggests compiling from svn HEAD
[23:47] <CFHowlett> !packages|mike
[23:47] <meerkats> im updating: terminal shows /usr/sbin/dkms: line 1872: echo: write error: Broken pipe
[23:48] <trism> ^Mike: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories
[23:48] <meerkats> is that bad? very bad?
[23:48] <meerkats> apparently it cannot keep updating till i solve it, am I wrong?
[23:49] <marduk> broken pipes can cause leaks, and even flooding
[23:49] <ETronik> brb
[23:49] <^Mike> trism: that's the page! thanks! *bookmarked*
[23:49] <nronksr> On a touchpad, what is the command to set the delay for the synaptic touchpad?
[23:50] <nronksr> ie: so when I type, it disables the touchpad for x number of seconds?
[23:52] <excelsior> help help! I'm being repressed! The GUI froze up, and I'm not sure what to do, I have a bunch of projects going all at once, and I'm trying to shut them down a bit at a time, but now it froze up, can't click on anything, so I'm in tty1 using irssi, you're my only chance of recovery!
[23:52] <meerkats> ok, its a cascade of broken pipes, same message all over again
[23:52] <meerkats> how do I fix it?
[23:53] <meerkats> o wait, it seems it can keel installing
[23:54] <mintman> how to transfer playlists in clementine to andriod phone??
[23:54] <lesshaste> how can I set up twinview?
[23:54] <lesshaste> in oneiric
[23:55] <excelsior> help help! I'm being repressed! The GUI froze up, and I'm not sure what to do, I have a bunch of projects going all at once, and I'm trying to shut them down a bit at a time, but now it froze up, can't click on anything, so I'm in tty1 using irssi, you're my only chance of recovery!
[23:56] <excelsior> The GUI froze up, and I'm not sure what to do, I have a bunch of projects going all at once, and I'm trying to shut them down a bit at a time, but now it froze up, can't click on anything, so I'm in tty1 using irssi, you're my only chance of recovery!
[23:58] <excelsior> I'm going to try top and kill to see if I can make any headway...
[23:58] <JelloPop> excelsior: ctrl + alt + f8 = new session xstart --:1  this should laod new session
[23:59] <JelloPop> excelsior: xstart --:1   :)
[23:59] <newblikegr> Does anyone know how to change the Font color of active windows on Gnome/Xfce panel?
[23:59] <Etronik> rebe, so how do I stop the join/leave messages in Xchat ?
[23:59] <newblikegr> I can't seem to change it from default black