| SpamapS | imbrandon: I'd assert the keys I trust separate from the sources.list I clone. :) | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| imbrandon | new machione ; scp source.list ; autokey; apt-get update | 00:00 |
| SpamapS | imbrandon: you really should be automating this.. you know.. with something like juju :) | 00:00 |
| imbrandon | yea i actually am | 00:00 |
| imbrandon | thus breaking out the old crifty | 00:00 |
| imbrandon | its all in ant scripts right now | 00:01 |
| imbrandon | so semi | 00:01 |
| imbrandon | but not all machines will be in the cloud :( i do my local dev vms like that | 00:01 |
| imbrandon | heh | 00:01 |
| _mup_ | juju/relation-id-option r518 committed by jim.baker@canonical.com | 00:02 |
| _mup_ | Fixed log assertion | 00:02 |
| SpamapS | imbrandon: you mean your local dev lxc containers? | 00:02 |
| SpamapS | :) | 00:02 |
| imbrandon | heh osx !lxc | 00:02 |
| SpamapS | awww | 00:02 |
| imbrandon | vmware esxi accross the room with vsphere ftw | 00:02 |
| imbrandon | nice beefy desktop with 5tb of sata drives filled with esx images :) | 00:03 |
| SpamapS | imbrandon: see, if you just used containers you could use a single machine with just a few MB and use overlayfs for testing stuff out. :) | 00:03 |
| SpamapS | I really want to see juju embrace that way of doing things for dev... so we can have a shared VFS and not re-do so many operations | 00:04 |
| imbrandon | yea but i can run osx ( leaglly and winsdows ) on vmware | 00:04 |
| imbrandon | as well as linux | 00:04 |
| imbrandon | i mean i do see the good parts | 00:04 |
| imbrandon | but there is parts i would have to replace othher ways | 00:05 |
| imbrandon | i use my osx vm's to test app store apps before i submit them | 00:05 |
| imbrandon | :( | 00:05 |
| SpamapS | imbrandon: I think we'll always see other OS's in vms. But you were, I thought, talking about Ubuntu server dev. | 00:05 |
| imbrandon | yea ... i r lost | 00:05 |
| imbrandon | i'm thinking i can probablt slipt up the esx machine though | 00:06 |
| imbrandon | easy i dont nearly use all of it | 00:06 |
| imbrandon | and have esx run as a dom | 00:06 |
| imbrandon | err xendom | 00:06 |
| imbrandon | then the rest be one beefy ubntu server | 00:07 |
| imbrandon | with lxc containers | 00:07 |
| imbrandon | like a vm inside a vm inside a lxc , i'm gonna need a lot of lsd to figure that all out | 00:07 |
| * imbrandon hrm | 00:08 | |
| imbrandon | SpamapS: yea i was talking about ubuntun server dev, i did one of those assume things again and assumed you magicly knew what hardware i was working with localy :) | 00:09 |
| imbrandon | right now my setup is as follows, 4x 1024 linodes ( that will likely go away to aws or hp cloud ) , 2 aws micros for misc cruft reimaged often , my mac mini thats my main pc , mac book pro that never gets turned on , small ubntu file server running on a 1ghz via cpu with 4 1tb hdd raid 5'd for like my mp3s and crap , and then a beefy desktop i forget specs but core i3 dual core with 8gb ram running esxi with all my "dev" vm's that i connect to wi | 00:13 |
| imbrandon | :) | 00:13 |
| imbrandon | desktop is headless , basicly a poorman server | 00:14 |
| SpamapS | 3tb for mp3s.. thief. ;) | 00:14 |
| imbrandon | heh and movies and misc ( aka pr0n ) haha ok no pr0n | 00:15 |
| SpamapS | ok, time to EOD for me.. | 00:15 |
| SpamapS | but. .later tonight.. I swear I'll do some charm review/feedback :-P | 00:15 |
| imbrandon | heh kk, taker easy man | 00:15 |
| SpamapS | crazy week. :-P | 00:15 |
| imbrandon | :) | 00:15 |
| imbrandon | half sec, check this | 00:15 |
| imbrandon | @zeus:~$ ls -l Music/|wc -l | 00:16 |
| imbrandon | 39926 | 00:16 |
| imbrandon | not tooo many :) | 00:16 |
| imbrandon | SpamapS: ^^ | 00:16 |
| SpamapS | $ find ~/Music -type f | wc -l | 00:17 |
| SpamapS | 940 | 00:17 |
| SpamapS | not enough | 00:17 |
| imbrandon | heh www.bobs-library.com | 00:17 |
| SpamapS | but.. thats pretty much all the songs I actually like and listen to .. and you know.. *paid for* ;) | 00:17 |
| imbrandon | ( thats my step dads website, has all my music on it too ) | 00:17 |
| imbrandon | if you want when you get $home , i'll give you a user/pass | 00:18 |
| SpamapS | home? | 00:18 |
| SpamapS | I work at home | 00:18 |
| SpamapS | its time to LEAVE home :) | 00:18 |
| imbrandon | i tossed it up and it makes list from cron | 00:18 |
| imbrandon | ahhh :) | 00:18 |
| SpamapS | imbrandon: no thanks, I'll stick to a system that compensates artists kthxbai. :) | 00:19 |
| imbrandon | forgot about that, used to ppl leaving the house that i tlak to lol, but yea i know that feeling , been working from home a few years now | 00:19 |
| imbrandon | SpamapS: i buy 99% of it | 00:19 |
| imbrandon | :) | 00:19 |
| imbrandon | and videos | 00:19 |
| imbrandon | and extended albums | 00:19 |
| imbrandon | like for real | 00:19 |
| SpamapS | and yes, I'm a prick about this. Ignore me. | 00:20 |
| imbrandon | i probably spend more money on music and ebooks than most on $tv + other entertain | 00:20 |
| imbrandon | as that is most of my enterain :) | 00:20 |
| imbrandon | no i hear ya, i make a good little income on the side from app store, so i know the feeling | 00:20 |
| imbrandon | thus passwd protected site and limited few get the credentials :) | 00:21 |
| imbrandon | but i do share a bit , but i thinks thats ok imho | 00:21 |
| imbrandon | a LITLLE | 00:21 |
| imbrandon | not with the internets | 00:21 |
| imbrandon | ya know ;) | 00:22 |
| imbrandon | but yea the little i have thats not paid for is either crap that wasent released or way way way back on the orig napster i probably have a dozen or so tracks left misxed in | 00:22 |
| imbrandon | mixed* | 00:23 |
| * imbrandon forgot that all his tunes are in iTunes Match cloud too, soo they have to be legit or apple gets nasty with ya :) | 00:56 | |
| imbrandon | SpamapS ^ :P | 00:56 |
| imbrandon | ohhh http://blog.openwebosproject.org/ <-- posted 1 day ago, opening up all of webos, already realeased some major componets of it 2 hours ago ( just seen on twitter ) ... hrm | 01:03 |
| imbrandon | marcoceppi: https://build.hpcloud.com/cli/unix rubygem , looks to be their awnser to s3cmd | 01:22 |
| _mup_ | juju/relation-id r498 committed by jim.baker@canonical.com | 02:28 |
| _mup_ | Merged trunk | 02:28 |
| _mup_ | juju/relation-id r499 committed by jim.baker@canonical.com | 02:46 |
| _mup_ | Fixed patch issues | 02:46 |
| marcoceppi | imbrandon: cool | 03:03 |
| imbrandon | marcoceppi: need a guiney pig or help lemme knw, i havent got to that omg stuff yet but i'll likely do it sometime tonight and just leave ya a note for whenever you get time | 03:04 |
| imbrandon | unless joey put all the keys on like jcastro mentioned and i can just update stage, whatever however | 03:05 |
| marcoceppi | There's no joey account yet, and no staging yet | 03:05 |
| imbrandon | ahh i thought staging was pointing to some micros | 03:05 |
| imbrandon | u get some hp glue happenin and we'll toss it there ( staging ) heh | 03:07 |
| _mup_ | juju/relation-hook-context r515 committed by jim.baker@canonical.com | 03:34 |
| _mup_ | Merged trunk, resolved conflicts, and updated for subordinate support | 03:34 |
| _mup_ | juju/relation-hook-context r516 committed by jim.baker@canonical.com | 04:23 |
| _mup_ | More subordinate fixes | 04:23 |
| _mup_ | juju/relation-hook-context r517 committed by jim.baker@canonical.com | 04:34 |
| _mup_ | Return internal relation and scope | 04:34 |
| shazzner | ok question | 05:11 |
| shazzner | I've been following this guide: http://askubuntu.com/questions/65359/how-do-i-configure-juju-for-local-usage | 05:11 |
| shazzner | yet I'm unable to connect via browser to the public-address | 05:12 |
| shazzner | ping'ing the address shows it unreachable | 05:12 |
| shazzner | any ideas what could be up? | 05:12 |
| _mup_ | juju/relation-hook-context r518 committed by jim.baker@canonical.com | 05:17 |
| _mup_ | Fix remaining failing test (due to cached relation hook contexts requiring a complete topology) | 05:17 |
| imbrandon | SpamapS: hahah i forgot too, part of my cron ( php cli app ) that builds out the site for that music also makes cache files ( two of them ) per mp3, one _filename_.json with the id3 meta data and one _filename_.serial with php binary serialized data , so my website can not do any mp3 reading at runtime and use the id3 json easy in javascript and and php can also load the object back up just one at a time to play ( flash player ) and show other det | 05:53 |
| imbrandon | tl:dr , there was only 1/3 actual media in that dir the more i thought aobut it :) | 05:53 |
| _mup_ | juju/relation-ids-command r509 committed by jim.baker@canonical.com | 05:56 |
| _mup_ | Merged upstream | 05:56 |
| _mup_ | juju/relation-id-option r519 committed by jim.baker@canonical.com | 05:57 |
| _mup_ | Merged upstream & resolved conflict | 05:57 |
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| sc-rm | Hi, I'm trying to set up the openstack environment in my own private cloud for juju. I'm able to start/stop instances through openstack-dashboard and also log into those without problems. But I'm for now failing at making juju bootstrap an instance so the juju environment can get up and running. I get "2012-03-30 13:35:42 ERROR nova.api.ec2 [-] Unauthorized: Not Authorized" | 11:39 |
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| fwereade_ | sc-rm, have you set "access-key" and "secret-key" in your environments.yaml (or set AWS_ACCESS_KEY_ID and AWS_SECRET_ACCESS_KEY in your environment)? | 12:24 |
| fwereade_ | sc-rm, and also made sure you have the correct "ec2-uri" and "s3-uri" in your environments.yaml? | 12:25 |
| sc-rm | fwereade_: openstack: | 12:35 |
| sc-rm | type: ec2 | 12:35 |
| sc-rm | default-instance-type: m1.small | 12:35 |
| sc-rm | control-bucket: juju-openstack-bucket | 12:35 |
| sc-rm | admin-secret: my_password | 12:35 |
| sc-rm | ec2-uri: http://172.16.0.184:8773/services/Cloud | 12:35 |
| sc-rm | s3-uri: http://172.16.0.184:3333 | 12:35 |
| sc-rm | default-image-id: c4e58b59-80e1-4e92-9479-d3be7135b826 | 12:35 |
| sc-rm | access-key: admin:novaproject | 12:35 |
| sc-rm | secret-key: f1405188-3bdf-4058-be45-ecf9e607a13f | 12:35 |
| sc-rm | default-series: precise | 12:35 |
| sc-rm | where 172.16.0.184 is the ip of the cloud controller | 12:36 |
| fwereade_ | sc-rm, hm, nothing springs to mind -- would you try a "juju -v bootstrap" and pastebin me the result? | 12:37 |
| sc-rm | fwereade_: http://pastebin.com/XXuXszYk | 12:38 |
| fwereade_ | sc-rm, hmm, so it's the security groups it won't let you see | 12:41 |
| fwereade_ | sc-rm, can you run euca-describe-groups with those credentials? | 12:42 |
| sc-rm | fwereade_: no | 12:43 |
| sc-rm | brb | 12:43 |
| fwereade_ | sc-rm, hmm, that would seem to be the problem then... but I'm not sure where to go from here | 12:43 |
| fwereade_ | sc-rm, I think yu may need to give yourself the "netadmin" role | 12:47 |
| hazmat | sc-rm, have you tried the nova client tools? | 13:06 |
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| hazmat | sc-rm, it sounds like a problem with your keystone auth setup | 13:07 |
| hazmat | hi al-maisan | 13:07 |
| al-maisan | hello hazmat | 13:07 |
| hazmat | fwereade_, i think that's just the first ec2 api used for bootstrap, its not clear the endpoint is wired up to the auth mechanism | 13:09 |
| hazmat | al-maisan, re euro py.. what'd you have in mind for your talk? | 13:09 |
| fwereade_ | hazmat, ah, could be | 13:10 |
| fwereade_ | hazmat, I'm not really familiar with openstack tbh | 13:10 |
| al-maisan | hazmat: I thought of giving an intro, a quick comparison with AWS SWF and a simple example | 13:10 |
| sc-rm | b | 13:14 |
| sc-rm | hazmat: I'm able to start instances through openstack-dashboard(horizon) | 13:15 |
| hazmat | al-maisan, doing a high - low split sounds good.. there's some chance i may have to bow out. | 13:15 |
| sc-rm | fwereade_: so a new role in keystone called netadmin? | 13:15 |
| fwereade_ | sc-rm, I may be wrong, I was just looking at the docs myself: http://docs.openstack.org/cactus/openstack-compute/starter/content/Network_Administrator_netadmin_-d1e2232.html | 13:16 |
| hazmat | sc-rm, right but the cli nova client / or eucatools are a closer to juju usage validation | 13:16 |
| al-maisan | hazmat: hmm .. I see, so I'd stick with what I've outlined above and you can give the advanced presentation if things work out for you | 13:16 |
| hazmat | al-maisan, sounds like a plan | 13:17 |
| al-maisan | hazmat: great :-) thanks for touching base! | 13:17 |
| hazmat | al-maisan, i'll see if i can clear up my attendance soon to not split the vote | 13:17 |
| fwereade_ | sc-rm, ...and, yeah, looks like I'm wrong, the admin role should be able to mess with security groups according to http://docs.openstack.org/cactus/openstack-compute/starter/content/Tabular_representation_of_Roles-d1e2292.html | 13:18 |
| sc-rm | fwereade_: okay, is there any log on the cloud-controller where I'm able to see some information about where it tries to validate my credentials? | 13:21 |
| fwereade_ | sc-rm, ...no, it's a little murkier than that, the "cloudadmin" role can do anything; "sysadmin" can start/stop machines; "netadmin" can change firewall rules | 13:21 |
| fwereade_ | sc-rm, hmm, maybe try something like: | 13:23 |
| fwereade_ | sc-rm, `nova-manage role has --user=novaadmin --role=cloudadmin` | 13:23 |
| fwereade_ | sc-rm, `nova-manage role has --user=novaadmin --role=netaadmin` | 13:23 |
| fwereade_ | sc-rm, but with the appropriate --user | 13:23 |
| al-maisan | hazmat: cool, it would be nice to meet in Florence nevertheless :-) | 13:25 |
| sc-rm | fwereade_: it returns false, so I guess that is the problem, I'll try to add the roles to the admin user | 13:25 |
| fwereade_ | sc-rm, cool | 13:25 |
| fwereade_ | sc-rm, `nova-manage role add --user=novaadmin --role=netadmin` | 13:26 |
| sc-rm | fwereade_: now the above commands return true, but still no luck in do euca-describe-groups | 13:29 |
| fwereade_ | sc-rm, bother :( | 13:29 |
| sc-rm | fwereade_: yep ;-) but will find the problem anyhow | 13:30 |
| fwereade_ | hazmat, what was that you were saying about wiring the endpoint up to the auth mechanism? | 13:30 |
| sc-rm | fwereade_: I figured it out now, so juju is able to create instances, the trick was to go to the dashboard -> settings -> ec2 credentials -> download and use that access-key and secret-key instead. | 13:56 |
| fwereade_ | sc-rm, awesome :D | 13:57 |
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| SpamapS | hey.. ~charmers.. wtf.. you guys left me no charms to review. ;) | 15:14 |
| SpamapS | *NICELY DONE* | 15:14 |
| jamespage | SpamapS, lol | 15:16 |
| robbiew | lol | 15:17 |
| SpamapS | attention Juju distro version users.. new, incompatible version landing in precise | 15:19 |
| marcoceppi | SpamapS: does it affect PPA users as well? or is this just a "We're catching the distro package up"? | 15:20 |
| robbiew | SpamapS: you mean the PPA version is getting sync'd, right? | 15:22 |
| SpamapS | robbiew: right | 15:23 |
| SpamapS | PPA users will be completely unaffected | 15:23 |
| robbiew | meh...welcome to beta! | 15:23 |
| robbiew | SpamapS: were you around when we switched to upstart...that was at a beta too :P | 15:23 |
| robbiew | talk about new and incompatible | 15:24 |
| * SpamapS spit takes | 15:26 | |
| SpamapS | what? | 15:26 |
| SpamapS | robbiew: I joined at UDS-M (and wa a Debian person before that .. ;) | 15:27 |
| robbiew | so you missed it | 15:27 |
| robbiew | it was awesome...we broke everything! | 15:27 |
| robbiew | lol | 15:28 |
| SpamapS | robbiew: *nice* | 15:31 |
| SpamapS | robbiew: was that the karmic upstart change, or the hardy upstart change? IIRC there were two big shifts | 15:32 |
| robbiew | karmic | 15:32 |
| fwereade_ | gents, I need to be off early, I'll probably pop back in later | 15:32 |
| robbiew | hardy was just introducing it...karmic is where we actually went to using it with force | 15:32 |
| robbiew | of course that was only desktop...server was ignored | 15:32 |
| robbiew | and paid the price...but you know that ;) | 15:33 |
| SpamapS | robbiew: *obviously* ;) | 15:33 |
| SpamapS | the chroot issue is still quite troubling actually.. | 15:33 |
| SpamapS | even with chroot support, people can't run Ubuntu in a chroot from a non-Ubuntu system. | 15:33 |
| robbiew | "people can't run Ubuntu in a chroot from a non-Ubuntu system" | 15:34 |
| robbiew | that last part is their problem | 15:34 |
| robbiew | :P | 15:34 |
| robbiew | zzzzzzzzzzzing! | 15:34 |
| SpamapS | also you can't run Ubuntu in an lxc container that is not network namespaced | 15:34 |
| SpamapS | Which would have been quite nice for us to be able to use LXC in juju w/o the network complexity | 15:35 |
| SpamapS | (don't worry I intend to suggest this as a feature for 12.10 :) | 15:35 |
| jamespage | how do charmers feel about using the HEAD of the master branch of an upstream project in a charm? | 15:41 |
| jamespage | etherpad-lite is currently bust as 1.0 wants nodejs 4 and npm 1.x but thats not a happy pairing anymore | 15:41 |
| jamespage | current dev is good with nodejs 6 + npm 1 from the PPA we are all using.... | 15:42 |
| SpamapS | jamespage: HEAD is a bit aggressive, I'd love for that to just be an option, but pick a tag by default | 15:44 |
| jamespage | SpamapS, I'll give upstream a poke and see when the next release is due | 15:44 |
| SpamapS | jamespage: for exactly the reason you're seeing.. integration is hard, mmmkay :) | 15:44 |
| jamespage | SpamapS, I may be able to kludge 1.0 to work as well | 15:45 |
| SpamapS | jamespage: I've been messing with a charm called 'extrappa' that I splice onto my other charms to test things with different PPA's enabled. | 15:45 |
| SpamapS | jamespage: It might be interesting to use that to test charms w/ newer versions of stuff | 15:46 |
| SpamapS | tho this seems like the other way around | 15:46 |
| jamespage | SpamapS, I think I'll pick a know good commit for the time being | 15:49 |
| SpamapS | jamespage: do they not use tags? | 15:53 |
| SpamapS | <sigh> .. juju doesn't either.. ;) | 15:53 |
| jamespage | SpamapS, they do - but they only have "1.0" which is now 7 months old | 15:53 |
| jamespage | SpamapS, going to make it a config parameter to make it easier to change later | 15:54 |
| jamespage | or for people to tweak if they are brave :-) | 15:54 |
| jamespage | jcastro, did you hear anything back from the chris lea (guy who owns the nodejs PPA's we seem to be preferring?) | 15:56 |
| SpamapS | jamespage: I think you might also consider just making the node PPA the default | 16:10 |
| jamespage | SpamapS, for etherpad-lite? yes absolutely | 16:11 |
| SpamapS | jamespage: from what I saw, npm is totally broken and dead in older releases of Ubuntu/Debian anyway | 16:12 |
| jamespage | SpamapS, it is in the current dev release of Ubuntu/Debian | 16:12 |
| jamespage | SpamapS, the debian maintainer has stuff in pipeline | 16:13 |
| jamespage | but the upstream release pace is very fast IMHO | 16:13 |
| jamespage | reminds me of working with jenkins | 16:13 |
| SpamapS | jamespage: btw, great quote from Jay Pipes last night at the OpenStack LA meetup. "[Jenkins] is like a suped up cron." | 16:15 |
| jamespage | SpamapS, that is spot on | 16:15 |
| m_3 | with green balls :) | 16:15 |
| jamespage | cron with 200 x the memory footprint at least! | 16:15 |
| _mup_ | juju/relation-id r500 committed by jim.baker@canonical.com | 17:35 |
| _mup_ | Minor docstring update | 17:35 |
| jimbaker | beginning of relation-id support is now in trunk - 3 more branches to get approved | 17:46 |
| SpamapS | jimbaker: woot | 17:52 |
| SpamapS | heh.. | 17:53 |
| m_3 | dang, looks like I've got to flush and rebuild the lxc cache nightly for local charm testing | 17:53 |
| SpamapS | its going to get ugly when we add the next feature to charm API and there's no --version .. | 17:53 |
| m_3 | it's getting... stale | 17:53 |
| m_3 | +1 for somebody to add --version | 17:53 |
| SpamapS | what we really need is 'charm-api-version' so conditional logic can be used in charms | 17:54 |
| m_3 | it doesn't even require hard versioning... just spit out what it can... bzr480 is perfectly fine imo | 17:54 |
| SpamapS | m_3: hrm, I'd like to see us actually version the charm API | 17:54 |
| m_3 | we've had other problems than just charm api | 17:55 |
| m_3 | but ok | 17:55 |
| m_3 | I'd really like the api between the juju cli <-> juju bootstrap node to be versioned | 17:55 |
| m_3 | that's bitten me hard before | 17:55 |
| SpamapS | m_3: that is versioned since its basically the schema | 18:09 |
| marcoceppi | What do we use "s3" for and what's the benefit of having a storage bucket vs just having that information on the bootstrap? | 18:10 |
| SpamapS | marcoceppi: storing charms and the "map" that clients use to find the ZK node | 18:16 |
| SpamapS | marcoceppi: in orchestra we *do* store these things on the bootstrap node. | 18:16 |
| SpamapS | marcoceppi: and the local provider as well. Just not on EC2.. since S3 simplifies things | 18:17 |
| marcoceppi | SpamapS: so, if a provider didn't have an S3* like cloud, it could be setup to use the bootstrap? | 18:17 |
| SpamapS | marcoceppi: we'd have to rewrite code in the ec2 provider to make that work, but yes | 18:17 |
| SpamapS | marcoceppi: you'd need to have a way to find the ZK node. | 18:17 |
| SpamapS | marcoceppi: in orchestra, the orchestra-server env setting is used (and maas-server in maas) | 18:18 |
| SpamapS | marcoceppi: but in a cloud.. that address is harder to predict. :) | 18:18 |
| marcoceppi | I see, I was referring to a provider that wasn't a traditional EC2-like provider, I imagine they would need to code their own provider code | 18:19 |
| marcoceppi | Like, at POSSCON we chatted with the Linode guys and their API, they have a bit of a different setup though on how they manage their "VPS" servers | 18:20 |
| marcoceppi | So, right away I noticed a few things that wouldn't jive right, was trying to figure out what it would take if someone were to write provider code for Linode | 18:21 |
| SpamapS | marcoceppi: the API needs some place where admins can agree to share a map to the zookeeper node. | 18:26 |
| SpamapS | marcoceppi: if linode has some way of tagging VMs, that works | 18:28 |
| SpamapS | argh.. why do we try to mkdir ~/.juju with --help | 18:40 |
| m_3 | yikes | 18:40 |
| SpamapS | yeah, silly | 18:40 |
| SpamapS | makes it so we can't use help2man to generate man pages for juju | 18:42 |
| * SpamapS monkey patches | 18:43 | |
| SpamapS | oh what a mess | 18:44 |
| SpamapS | env config is used to set defaults for the parser | 18:44 |
| SpamapS | wow.. this sucks | 18:53 |
| SpamapS | can't push the default config out of "~/.juju" | 18:53 |
| SpamapS | so cannot run --help without a writable ~ | 18:53 |
| SpamapS | which means, cannot run --help during package build. :-P | 18:53 |
| hazmat | SpamapS, it can solved with another layer of indirection | 19:02 |
| hazmat | SpamapS, what's the goal? | 19:02 |
| SpamapS | hazmat: run --help without trying to write to the filesystem | 19:03 |
| SpamapS | hazmat: buildds run as a user which has no home dir | 19:04 |
| SpamapS | hazmat: help2man will run 'juju --help' and parse that into a nice man page | 19:04 |
| hazmat | SpamapS, gotcha | 19:04 |
| hazmat | SpamapS, and you can have it generate the aggregate from all the subcommands? | 19:05 |
| SpamapS | hazmat: since --help is generated from the parser object, which needs the environments for some defaults.. (IMO, the wrong layer to do that..) this is not so simple. :( | 19:05 |
| hazmat | or just the top level? | 19:05 |
| SpamapS | hazmat: no, that would be the bomb, but for now, I'm happy with a singe man page just listing the subcommands and a link to the docs | 19:05 |
| SpamapS | hazmat: I can get it to generate a man page per-subcommand tho | 19:05 |
| SpamapS | hazmat: and probably from that, I can squish them all into one. :) | 19:06 |
| SpamapS | but.. baby steps | 19:06 |
| SpamapS | first.. have to be able to run --help without a homedir | 19:06 |
| hazmat | SpamapS, un momento | 19:06 |
| SpamapS | anyway, have an appointment.. bbiab | 19:06 |
| hazmat | SpamapS, this solves that.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/907710/ | 19:07 |
| hazmat | i'll commit the fix to trunk | 19:08 |
| _mup_ | juju/trunk r508 committed by kapil.thangavelu@canonical.com | 19:12 |
| _mup_ | [trivial] juju only initializes the sample when given a command, post cli parsing | 19:12 |
| SpamapS | hazmat: thanks btw! :) | 21:52 |
| SpamapS | hazmat: did you forget to bzr push ? | 21:54 |
| shazzner | hello | 22:05 |
| shazzner | for some reason I'm unable to do juju status without it timing out | 22:05 |
| SpamapS | shazzner: how's it going? :) | 22:05 |
| SpamapS | oh, so.. not awesome :P | 22:05 |
| shazzner | SpamapS: good, back with more problems :p | 22:06 |
| SpamapS | shazzner: what provider? | 22:06 |
| shazzner | local | 22:06 |
| SpamapS | shazzner: did you reboot? | 22:06 |
| SpamapS | shazzner: reboot == dead local provider environments | 22:06 |
| shazzner | oh | 22:07 |
| shazzner | haha | 22:07 |
| shazzner | that blows man! | 22:07 |
| shazzner | ok I'll rebootstrap :) | 22:07 |
| SpamapS | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/juju/+bug/955576 | 22:07 |
| _mup_ | Bug #955576: 'local:' services not started on reboot <juju:New> <juju (Ubuntu):Confirmed> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/955576 > | 22:07 |
| shazzner | ah | 22:07 |
| SpamapS | shazzner: /win 10 | 22:07 |
| SpamapS | hah doh | 22:08 |
| shazzner | SpamapS: thanks :) | 22:08 |
| SpamapS | shazzner: there are > 100 bugs that need love.. ;) | 22:08 |
| shazzner | I wish I could help with them, I'd only introduce worser bugs :p | 22:09 |
| SpamapS | hazmat: that patch breaks a test | 22:30 |
| SpamapS | hazmat: http://paste.ubuntu.com/907956/ | 22:31 |
| SpamapS | hazmat: very easy fix | 22:31 |
| hazmat | SpamapS, huh.. yeah.. that's what i merged to trunk | 23:05 |
| hazmat | except i used ['bootstrap'] | 23:06 |
| SpamapS | hazmat: you never pushed | 23:06 |
| hazmat | oh.. right.. i forget i unbind'd on the checkedout | 23:06 |
| SpamapS | hazmat: I chose status since it is the most benign command. ;) | 23:06 |
| hazmat | SpamapS, fair enough.. i choose boot as benign initial command | 23:07 |
| hazmat | well not benign | 23:07 |
| hazmat | SpamapS, its pushed | 23:07 |
| SpamapS | hazmat: cool. I'll pick it up on the next (hopefully final) upload of juju to precise ;) | 23:28 |
| _mup_ | Bug #969706 was filed: juju.unit.tests.test_workflow.UnitRelationWorkflowTest.test_depart_hook_error non deterministic behavior <juju:New> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/969706 > | 23:58 |
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