[00:22] the ets are calling me I belong to the infinite === Unit193 is now known as Unit194 === Unit194 is now known as Unit193 [00:55] hey, what do you type in to get apps through terminal [00:56] !apt [00:56] APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome), !Adept (KDE) or !KPackageKit (KDE) [00:56] sudo apt-get install package [00:56] oh thanks [00:57] apt-cache search words or apt-cache show package are also handy. [00:57] what do they do [00:58] Searches and shows info. [00:58] oh so is there any more functions [00:58] Linked page should have all the info, and if not, the manpage for each is rather nice. [00:59] Just type in apt-cache and it'll show you what it has. [00:59] oh so what goes sudo mean [00:59] sudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") [00:59] gksudo is for GUIs [01:00] cool thanks, GUIs???? huh (lost here) [01:00] Ggraphical user interface == GUI [01:01] oh you mean for graph stuff or a os [01:04] list: What do you mean by "simple browser"? [01:04] just have the basic functions and not alot of things [01:06] Browser options are generally: Chromium, Firefox, Midori, Opera, Eph(something), and others as well. [01:07] and how to install [01:09] Same way as I just told you. You can also use Synaptic. [01:09] oh o.k. [01:37] Unit193: me thinks OP should be using LSC :) [01:38] That's in the newer version, and he asked about terminal as well. [01:39] I saw, you can LSC to 11.10 as well :) [01:40] is it necesary to format the file systems of the partitions if the partitions are already set for fat32 and etx3 [01:40] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Guides#How_to_install_Lubuntu_Software_Center [01:40] FernandoCueva: yes [01:41] linux will not install on fat32 [01:41] ext3 is quite old now & you should use ext4 [01:41] k [01:41] fat32 is for the boot info [01:41] is it ok to use it for the boot folder as I did on backtrack [01:42] grub should be okay there. [01:42] phillw: It's not in the default repo. [01:43] Unit193: it shows at https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop/+archive/ppa ? [01:44] We can continue in offtopic if you wish, but that's not in a default install. [01:54] I have a problem for lubuntu install [01:55] I am reading the instalation guide but is confusing, it says to make The bootable partition should be FAT16 or FAT32 but when I do press create startp disk nothing happens [01:56] I have the partition set to ext4 using the whole 4gb drive [01:58] and is mouned [02:04] I just notice the problem the guide says Run usb-creator using the -i IMG and I forget to remove IMG [02:13] ok my problem now is I'm getting an error saying failed to install the bootloeader why is that? === CTtechguy_ is now known as CTtechguys === CTtechguys is now known as CTtechguy === KAISforza is now known as KaiSforza [07:52] Hi, I can't change the icon theme in lxde, if I choose elementary it sticks at the gnome icons, any suggestions??? [07:52] edit .desktop file [07:52] or what [07:52] sorry [07:52] I read without giving a thought [07:53] anodesni, which version are you running? [07:54] actually, sometimes pcmanfm needs to be restarted, I would suggest to logout and log back in after choosing that theme [08:01] bioterror, where is this .desktop file? in .config/lxde-session/? [08:02] forget about the file [08:02] logout and log back in [08:02] and see if it works [08:02] after you have changed the theme [08:05] hmm, in my .config/lxsession/LXDE/desktop.conf I have the line: sNet/IconThemeName=elementary, and I already have this setting for some time, so I've already rebooted my machine [08:06] I also have this line in .gtkrc-2.0 gtk-icon-theme-name="elementary" [08:07] Still I can only switch to nuoveXT theme with lxappearence [08:08] hmmm [08:08] I have always changed themes with lxappearance, and without a problem [08:09] and there heg oes [08:36] hey! [08:37] i finished my lubuntu-rc.xml [08:37] it's a real success ! [08:37] the chain keybinds are great [08:38] i used W-p for material [08:38] with W-p-e = eject -T [08:38] which is used to eject my dvd player [08:38] W-o for openbox management, i saw this on the documentation [08:39] W-o-r = openbox --reconfigure, for example [08:39] W-l is used for launching programms [08:39] the possibilities are huge [08:39] :) [08:40] thank you for the help i received here [08:47] i have a question, how can i open a several selected file in one time in the same editor, i did it with gnome and geany or gedit [08:47] now, i have to used each time the "open with" option [09:00] Hi all [09:00] I'm looking for some help [09:05] just ask chojin, if you don't ask, you'll never now if somebody can help you ;) [09:06] thax, sorry [09:08] I upgraded form ubuntu 11.10 to lubuntu 11.10 As my pc is a little bit old I made an outologin in unity2d and now when I strt lubuntu it always told me that it's imposible to star with unity2d and it goes to lxde default desktop (not the lubuntu one) [09:09] How can I change it again to begin with lubuntu?? [09:09] I hope you understand me enough [09:11] I was looking in google and the wiki, but I find nothing [09:11] chojin: try remove file ~/.dmrc [09:13] it must be a hidden file in the root ??? [09:13] in home dir [09:13] yes hidde n [09:14] I should reboot, I will return to tell you if it works [09:14] Thanks anyway [09:15] you are so kind [09:15] just logout then login [09:20] JohnDoe_71Rus it works perfectly [09:20] Thanks a lot [09:21] great. i try reconfig ubuntu to lubuntu. got this issue === KaiSforza is now known as KAISforza [10:41] What is it that xubuntu has and lubuntu does not have, that makes xubuntu's network manager applet shoe mobile broadband devices automatically? [10:41] ^show [10:44] wicd network manager? [10:45] JohnDoe_71Rus, no, Xubuntu (11.04) does not have it [10:45] what do you call mobile broadband ? wifi acess ? [10:47] jarnos: instal it [10:47] seblabel, an usb device [10:48] JohnDoe_71Rus, well I would prefer the same method that xubuntu has. [10:48] do you use ndiwrapper ? [10:48] ndiswrapper* [10:49] is it a material that is not automatically recognized ? [10:50] sorry [10:51] seblabel: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01) not need [10:54] how did it worked on xubuntu, did you had to use a windows driver with it ? [10:56] http://nfolamp.wordpress.com/2011/10/15/ubuntu-11-10-getting-wireless-bcm4311-working/ [10:56] see ↑ [10:56] seblabel, I plugged the usb device in and later an item for the mobile network was shown in the network manager item on panel. [10:56] if this worked, tell us [11:03] seblabel: some chipsets supported by kernel. ubuntu, xubuntu, lubuntu it doesn't matter [11:08] Installing network-manager-pptp-gnome did NOT help in 12.04. [11:08] hello all [11:08] im quite new to lubuntu [11:09] set it up in 11.10 alternate install [11:09] works fine [11:10] only on startup appears "waiting for network configuration" ... 60 sec more ... [11:10] with the live cd all worked nicely [11:10] even with the desktop install [11:11] but now in alternate not ... [11:11] i saw that this seems to be a bug [11:11] is there a way to fix it or should i install other l/x/ubuntu ? [11:13] starting nm-applet in terminal appears the tray icon but before says "awaita" not found or something like that [11:13] do you edit /etc/network/interfaces? [11:13] this seems to be an graphical issue [11:13] yes [11:14] there is my interface + network + pw written [11:14] i #commented things out [11:14] but this doesnt seem to be the problem? ... i dont understand the loopback stuff ... [11:15] i get some, then wrong add br0 interface [11:15] i set also in /etc/networkmanager the manage stuff to true [11:16] i found also that user has to be allowed to use network + wireless [11:16] in the tray icon is everything but vpn connections gray [11:16] and there is gray written "device not ready" [11:17] with right klick i enabled wireless connections [11:18] parten me JohnDoe ? [11:19] how can i install the missing packages without network connection? [11:20] I saw that this is a "big bug" in 11.10 also for ubuntu users when they upgrade and for many lubuntu users in alternate (like me), as v12 is full of bugs should i downgrade? install 11.4? [11:21] or: https://help.ubuntu.com/11.10/serverguide/C/network-configuration.html [11:25] thank you I'll go through this [11:25] ! :) [11:26] yes. [11:32] WOOHOO! 27 DAYS! [11:42] im still asking my self if i really should use Lubuntu or better Xubuntu ... im working on a fast machine but would like to run a realtime kernel and run audio stuff with it ... but all in an encrypted file system [11:42] doesnt the encryption slow everything down? [12:28] 28 days to the official release has already love the new version of Lubuntu'm testanto in all ways except for a few bugs but I do fully compliments to you guys [12:51] i'm back [12:52] i need help with pcmanfm behaviour [12:52] i used this in lubuntu-rc.xml : [12:52] pcmanfm /my/special/directory [12:52] as a keybind [12:53] but, it does not work if no pcmanfm instance has already been started [12:57] and anyway, pcmanfm is still started cause it manages the desktop [13:16] someone have this problem ? [13:19] try to do this : [13:20] pcmanfm /home/yourhome [13:20] in a terminal [13:20] what happens ? [13:20] nothing [13:20] exept if pcmanfm was already running [13:20] no?? [13:23] how is everyone this morning/evening? [13:23] someone here ? [13:23] i am! [13:24] if someone could try, it would be great [13:24] hey TheCheggs ! [13:24] what seems to be the problem? [13:24] :D [13:24] try this : [13:24] in a terminal [13:24] pcmanfm /home/yourhome [13:24] what happens ? [13:24] nothing [13:25] exept if pcmanfm was already running [13:25] it comes up with my home [13:25] well [13:25] it works for me [13:25] not here [13:25] something is wrong [13:26] and you putting a space between pcmanfm and /home/etc [13:26] /home/yourname [13:26] ? [13:27] well i am just using openbox standalone and not LXDE but it should be the same thing. [13:27] yes, i put a space between [13:27] i'm using a keybind in lubuntu-rc.xml [13:28] it works when pcmanfm is already started [13:28] but if not, nothing happens [13:28] so, i had the idea to try in a terminal [13:28] and the result is the same [13:29] alright do me a favor, close out pcmanfm and then type pcmanfm /home/yourname/Desktop into the termianl and pastebin the output [13:29] can it be related with tab creation in pcmanfm ? [13:29] i wouldn't think so [13:30] nothing to paste [13:30] really [13:30] --- [13:30] pcmanfm /home/myhome [13:30] [13:30] --- [13:30] nothing [13:30] could it be in another workspace? [13:31] nope [13:31] have you done an update or something? [13:31] i tried pcmanfm --help-all [13:31] but it's empty [13:31] almost [13:32] try just typing pcmanfm into the term [13:33] it then open my home [13:33] let me log out right quick and get back into LXDE and see if i have the same problem, brb [13:33] thank you! [13:33] no worrys just one sec [13:35] well [13:35] it works fine [13:35] good for you ! [13:35] :) [13:36] haha [13:36] i don't know what to tell you [13:36] i certainly did something wrong [13:36] have you been messing around with config files? [13:36] with lubuntu-rc.xml [13:36] for the moment [13:37] how about before the problem started? [13:37] well, i don't know [13:38] [13:38] [13:38] [13:38] [13:38] true [13:38] PCManFM [13:38] [13:38] pcmanfm /home/seb/.scripts/ [13:38] [13:38] here is the bindkey [13:38] all others work perfectly [13:39] try getting rid of the /home/seb/.scripts part [13:39] this one, only when pcmanfm is already strated [13:39] and just leave the command like pcmanfm [13:39] this way, it works [13:39] as in the original keybind for pcmanfm [13:40] but it has no interest for my purpose [13:40] let me restart OB and see [13:40] thank you for helping [13:40] sorry i couldn't help more :\ [13:40] brb [13:41] roger [13:57] :) [14:29] ubeki beki beki beki stan tan [14:40] hi [14:43] hey leszek, how are you? [14:43] TheCheggs: fine and you ? [14:47] i am doing alright :) [14:47] thank you for asking [14:49] nothing like a can of off brand chef boyardee spaghetti and meatballs to start the morning off right [17:05] hey seblabel, you get it working? [17:05] hey [17:05] sorry for the inconvenience [17:06] i was catched by the neighbourhood who needed help [17:06] what inconvenience? [17:06] he is 80 [17:06] aww man [17:06] don't worry about it [17:06] :) [17:06] so [17:06] let's try [17:06] :) [17:06] what are we trying? [17:06] it's working [17:07] * TheCheggs dances [17:07] haha! [17:07] * TheCheggs is a horrible dancer :\ [17:07] * seblabel is singing [17:07] Would some look in het desktop session manager what name there is in default? [17:07] * seblabel is also an horrible dancer [17:08] what do you mean ErrorX? [17:08] ErrorX: what file should we look at ? [17:08] :) [17:08] TheCheggs: so [17:08] the keybind : W-l-s give me my scripts directory [17:08] I have changed the windows manager from default to another manager [17:09] with the command : pcmanfm /home/me/my-scripts [17:09] And I now don;t know the default value? [17:09] it is something with box or open [17:09] ErrorX: in what file should we loook ? [17:10] prefences --> desktop sessie manager [17:10] session* [17:10] and then advance options [17:11] en then there is the window manager [17:11] openbox-lxde [17:11] that is my value : openbox-lxde [17:11] thanks but if i reboot the other window manager appears [17:12] maybe an other file to modify [17:12] i did this tut: http://askubuntu.com/questions/73536/is-there-a-lightweight-way-to-snap-windows-in-lubuntu [17:13] but now i can't go back [17:13] my pc just flipped out sorry about taht [17:14] now what was the problem? [17:15] i want back to the default window manager [17:15] what windows manager are you using now? [17:15] http://askubuntu.com/questions/73536/is-there-a-lightweight-way-to-snap-windows-in-lubuntu [17:15] xfwm4 [17:16] ah alright [17:16] its been a while since i done it so lemme look right quick [17:16] thanks in advance:) [17:17] do you remember what program you started to change to xfwm? [17:17] what is the difference between openbox-lubuntu and openbox-lxde as window managers ? [17:18] most likly themes, [17:18] i mean i would imagine [17:18] errorx do you remember what you used to switch to xfwm? [17:18] ok TheCheggs [17:18] only a reboot and cd ~/.config/lxsession [17:18] mkdir Lubuntu [17:18] cp LXDE/* Lubuntu/ [17:19] hmm [17:19] lemme look around a bit more [17:19] its now default the xfwm [17:20] ah gotta log out into lxde right quick to properly do this, one second [17:20] ErrorX: what do you have in both desktop.conf files ? [17:20] where can i find the desktop.conf? [17:21] in the ./config [17:21] ~/.config/lxsession/lubuntu|LXDE [17:21] errorx [17:21] yes [17:21] go to your menu then prefernces then destop session settings [17:21] i am there [17:21] then click the avanced options tab [17:22] and put openbox-lxde [17:22] okee done [17:22] alright click ok [17:22] yes [17:22] then reboot and see if that didn't work :) [17:22] oke a moment [17:22] :> [17:25] did it work? [17:25] thanks it worked [17:25] :) great! [17:25] but now only my shortcut don't work [17:25] what shortcut? [17:25] alle shotcuts like ctrl alt d [17:25] for the "explorer" [17:26] oh to bring it up? [17:26] yes [17:26] now it does minimize the screens [17:27] then it was most likly window manager specific [17:27] hmm [17:29] i have now the "openbox configuration manager" but it seem it didn have a effect on the theme etc [17:29] do you see the button to the right of the menu button? [17:29] no [17:30] alright well you can add a shortcut to the file manager on your panel [17:30] in the left corner i have by default a shotcut to open a file manager [17:31] but a shortcut wil be faster [17:31] with shortcut do you use? [17:31] well i use just standalone openbox [17:31] i don't normally use LXDE [17:31] is openbox without lxde better? [17:32] well really its all personal preference [17:32] i mean i like it better but you may not [17:32] wtf [17:32] thats right [17:33] how can you compare a window manager to a desktop environment [17:33] thats just like comparing bananas and grenades [17:33] openbox is a windows manager right? [17:33] what leszek? [17:33] yeah it is error [17:33] ErrorX: yes openbox is a windowmanager [17:34] and lxde a X11 desktop environment? [17:34] ErrorX: so you can't compare a window manager to a desktop environment [17:34] openbox can be used standalone just fine leszek [17:35] there is only one exception thats called e17, which officially calls itself a window manager but in reality it even has more desktop environment features than lxde [17:35] why is it that the only partition that works for lubuntu install using usb creator is fat32? I thought it didn't see that fs [17:35] TheCheggs: yes it can, I never doubt that [17:35] so what is your deal? [17:37] TheCheggs: my deal is that you can't compare a window manager to a desktop environment, because a window manager is only there for handling windows. It does not have any session or theming features and is not meant to be comfortable to use out of the box [17:37] FernandoCueva: fat32 can be read by linux [17:38] so lubuntu install usb drive has fat32 is that allowed [17:38] i'd have to disagree with you there leszek, openbox has great theming and is very comfortable with something like tint2 [17:39] TheCheggs: exactly with tint2 . So the window manager itself has no panel . Theming works only for the window decorator but not for the gtk+/qt apps [17:39] is on a fat32 partition I mean [17:39] FernandoCueva: what do you want to do ? If you want to install lubuntu on a fat32 usb stick, this won't work due to missing permission management on fat32 [17:40] sabnzdplus chashed totaly xd [17:40] so i guess you just run lubuntu bare with no sort of modding except themes? [17:40] is already installed on a fat32 leszek that's why I'm puzzle [17:41] FernandoCueva: but it shouldn't boot or run correctly [17:41] usb-creator did it [17:41] it wouldn't allow me use another fs type [17:41] openbox works just a good as a standerd DE [17:41] usb-creator does not install anything [17:41] on every command that i put in the terminal i get bash: /usr/bin/oitop: input/output error [17:41] it uses the syslinux bootloader which can only boot from fat partitions [17:41] and right now is trying to load lubuntu from the usb stick [17:42] what kind of commands are you putting in Error [17:42] hold on [17:43] TheCheggs: openbox is no DE so how can it work as a standard DE ? You need to tweak it. You need to setup autostart for powermanagement, networkmanagement and you need to get a tray with trayer, stalonetray or a panel including a tray just like tint2. So it takes a lot configuration to do this. [17:43] This is what you need to do to have something compared to a DE [17:43] everything in linux needs tweaking to get it to work just like you want it [17:43] if you only need a window manager than openbox is really ok and enough [17:44] and theres alot of people coming in here that are new to linux [17:44] but if you want a out of the box working experience you need a proper Desktop environment [17:44] just becuase they don't know the differnce doesn't mean you have to be harsh [17:45] I am not harsh. I just explained properly what the difference between a window manager and a desktop environment ist [17:45] -t [17:45] leszek> wtf [17:45] thats right [17:45] how can you compare a window manager to a desktop environment [17:45]