[04:08] <zruty> How to file a bug without knowing the package causing the issue?
[04:08] <zruty> No process (that I know of), no window, no nothing. Just something that does not work (which does work in Win)
[04:08] <micahg> zruty: what's the issue
[04:13] <zruty> I have a laptop which works fine with 11.10. When I start it up with my BT cardbus card inside, my wired NIC is disabled.
[04:14] <zruty> When I start it up without BT cardbus inside, it starts up without issue. If I stick it in after startup, the BT thing works.
[04:14] <zruty> And the NIC keeps working, too
[04:15] <micahg> zruty: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/KernelTeamBugPolicies#Filing_Kernel_Bug_reports
[04:15] <zruty> But if I start up with BT cardbus inside, the NIC is disabled, and if I eject the BT cardbus card, the NIC does not get enabled.
[04:16] <zruty> So you figure this is a kernel bug?
[04:16] <micahg> sounds like it
[04:16] <zruty> Okay. I have lunch break now, will look at it when I get back. Thanks sofar!
[15:07] <njin> there's a volonterous mman that draw the structure of Ubuntu eg. linux (and it's most important parts) -> .......?
[15:41] <mfisch> bdmurray: you around this morning?
[15:43] <bdmurray> mfisch: yep
[15:43] <mfisch> bdmurray: so I'm redoing kangaroo's phrasing for when someone subscribes us to a bug
[15:43] <mfisch> bdmurray: what do you think about this:
[15:44] <mfisch> Thanks for your interest in helping to resolve this issue.  There is no need to subscribe anyone to this bug, as it generates unnecessary emails and will not resolve the defect any faster.  Your bug will be looked at by a developer as time permits.
[15:44] <mfisch> s/defect/issue/
[15:45] <hggdh> better
[15:46] <bdmurray> that sounds good to me
[15:47] <mfisch> ok
[15:47] <mfisch> I think I'll remove the reference URLs too
[15:47] <bdmurray> mfisch: yes, those are unnecessary but I would add a clarification about when to use it
[16:18] <bdmurray> jibel: re bug 965686 what language were you using and do you have any log files?
[16:18] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 965686 in update-manager "Upgrade from lucid trigger an unreadable error dialog (font issue?)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/965686
[16:19] <jibel> bdmurray, french. upgrade is in progress, I'll attach the log files when it's done
[16:20] <bdmurray> jibel: great, thanks
[16:35] <bdmurray> mvo: might bug 365852 be a duplicate of bug 541595?
[16:35] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 365852 in dkms "package dkms failed to install/upgrade: package dkms is already installed and configured" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/365852
[16:35] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 541595 in dpkg "[Master] package failed to install/upgrade: package is already installed and configured" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/541595
[21:49] <erkan^> !bugs 969595
[21:49] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 969595 in nvidia-graphics-drivers "package nvidia-current 195.36.24-0ubuntu1~10.04.1 failed to install/upgrade: nvidia-current kernel module failed to build" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/969595
[21:49] <ubot2> Factoid 'bugs 969595' not found
[21:50] <erkan^> can someone help me for this bugs?
[21:53] <hggdh> erkan^: I do not deal with graphics, but my first feeling is that you are running a backported kernel, and the package does not know how to deal with it
[21:55] <hggdh> if you are running a mainline kernel, then there is absolutely no support for that. For a backported kernel... I will have to wait for the X folks to answer
[21:57] <erkan^> i use Ubuntu 10.04 LTS and kernel 3. Will I click on --> Backsported by Software Bron, hggdh ?
[21:58] <hggdh> erkan^: I am not sure I understand what you mean by "Will I click on --> Backported by Software Bron"
[21:58] <erkan^> a wait
[22:01] <erkan^> hggdh, http://picpaste.com/pics/softwarebronnen-asgIyH74.1333144853.png
[22:01] <erkan^> backsported is off
[22:02] <hggdh> indeed. How did you install the 3.0.0 kernel?
[22:03] <erkan^> I have downloaded --> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/lucid/release/ and this is branded in DVD. After startup for computer I saw this I can install kernel 3. I did choose, hggdh
[22:04] <erkan^> After startup for computer I saw a option which I want do with DVD - Ubuntu 10.04 this I can install kernel 3. I did choose
[22:05] <erkan^> do you understand, hggdh ? (My English is no good)
[22:06] <hggdh> erkan^: yeah, OK. What happens: you are running 3.0.0, and the nvidia-current does not know about it (after all, nvidia-current is for Lucid)
[22:06] <hggdh> erkan^: yes, I understand
[22:07] <erkan^> a wait
[22:07] <erkan^> i go paste picture
[22:08] <hggdh> erkan^: I really would wait for the experts on graphics to see your bug. Meanwhile, you could try http://askubuntu.com/
[22:08] <hggdh> but I have a feeling this is unsuported
[22:09] <dlentz> build log says "*** Unable to determine the target kernel version. ***" so my guess is also that 3.0 kernel is too new for nvidia-current to detect
[22:10] <erkan^> hggdh, http://picpaste.com/nvidia-DblOlL2E.png
[22:10] <hggdh> yeah. What I do not know is if there is support for nvidia on a backported kernel
[22:10] <erkan^> ah
[22:10] <erkan^> will I try that i go click ON for backported?
[22:11] <dlentz> hggdh, i think it's the install script, see patch: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=165000
[22:11] <yofel> nvidia 195 is from 2.6 days, it can't do anything sane with 3.* kernels
[22:11] <yofel> it needs the scripts from a newer driver version for that
[22:13] <erkan^> 195?
[22:13] <yofel> your bug title says 195.36.24
[22:13] <erkan^> what can I do now, yofel ?
[22:14] <hggdh> dlentz: there is more than than, all the differences in kernel/video from the 2.6.32 to 3.x...
[22:14]  * hggdh is with yofel :-)
[22:15] <yofel> well, as hggdh said, use askubuntu or wait for a maintainer to look at the bug
[22:16] <dlentz> hggdh, i don't understand what you mean, it's just the install script doesn't understand the new kernel versioning, the little patch fixes it
[22:16] <dlentz> erkan^, i personally would try latest driver from: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates
[22:18] <erkan^> ok, i go try
[22:19] <hggdh> dlentz: there are a lot of changes from 2.6.32 to 3.0... the post you linked is on 11.04, which is a more recent kernel (and still, I would be worried).
[22:20] <hggdh> dlentz: you go this way, and you are most probably on your own -- which is not good. So, *before* trying, I would research
[22:21] <hggdh> the point is you can end up with a completely non-working system. If you are not familiar with recovery, and packages, you might end up with a brick
[22:21] <erkan^> brb
[22:24] <dlentz> bug 576648
[22:24] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 576648 in nvidia-drivers-ubuntu "package nvidia-* failed to install/upgrade: nvidia-* kernel module failed to build (Unable to determine the target kernel version.)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/576648
[22:27] <erkan^> dlentz, i see that NVIDIA by extras hardware is green now
[22:27] <erkan^> it is fixed ... i think
[22:28] <erkan^> are you there, dlentz hggdh yofel ?
[22:28] <erkan^> is it fixed now ?
[22:29] <dlentz> erkan^, have you tested anything 3D?
[22:29] <erkan^> where can I tested with 3D?
[22:29] <dlentz> try glxgears  command
[22:30] <erkan^> via terminal?
[22:30] <dlentz> yes
[22:31] <erkan^> gfxgears
[22:31] <erkan^> No command 'gfxgears' found, did you mean:
[22:31] <erkan^>  Command 'glxgears' from package 'mesa-utils' (universe)
[22:31] <erkan^> gfxgears: command not found
[22:31] <dlentz> you typo'd
[22:31] <erkan^> oesp
[22:31] <erkan^> glxgears
[22:32] <erkan^> glxgears
[22:32] <erkan^> Het programma 'glxgears' is momenteel niet geïnstalleerd.  U kunt het installeren door het volgende te typen:
[22:32] <erkan^> sudo apt-get install mesa-utils
[22:32] <erkan^> need i install --> mesa-utils, dlentz ?
[22:32] <dlentz> yes
[22:32] <hggdh> erkan^: execute this command, yes
[22:36] <erkan^> http://picpaste.com/pics/glxgears-VF9lYQBU.1333146963.png dlentz hggdh
[22:36] <erkan^> and?
[22:36] <erkan^> is that good now?
[22:36] <erkan^> :S
[22:37] <hggdh> yes
[22:37] <erkan^> Cool !
[22:37] <erkan^> (-:
[22:37] <dlentz> yes, it looks good
[22:37] <erkan^> thank you very much, dlentz and hggdh
[22:38] <dlentz> you're welcome, enjoy your 3d pixels
[22:38] <erkan^> Goodnight, I go party now (-:
[22:38] <dlentz> have fun..
[22:38] <erkan^> party = off i mean
[22:39] <hggdh> :-)
[22:40] <hggdh> I love this Dutch 'ik ga weg'
[22:40] <hggdh> or Flemish, frankly, I do not know enough of it