[06:57] <Effenberg0x0> Hello everyone :) If anyone is available, I need some help with Cloaks. My LP is: https://launchpad.net/~effenberg0x0 (I'm an Ubuntu Member, have read the IRCTeam Docs and my current nickname is registered with Nickserv to a proper e-mail address).
[07:04] <Tm_T> hi Effenberg0x0, if you idle here some time, one of the council members will process the cloak request (:
[07:04] <Effenberg0x0> Thanks Tm_T :)
[08:16]  * Myrtti prods AlanBell, topyli, Pici and funkyHat 
[09:02] <AlanBell> morning all
[09:04] <AlanBell> staff can we have an ubuntu/member/Effenberg0x0 cloak for Effenberg0x0 please
[09:05] <niko> hi
[09:05] <Fuchs> ello
[09:05] <niko> Effenberg0x0: congrats
[09:06] <Effenberg0x0> o/ niko, thanks :)
[09:06] <Effenberg0x0> Hi AlanBell
[09:06] <AlanBell> yay, thanks niko
[09:07] <Fuchs> Effenberg0x0: congratulations
[09:07] <Effenberg0x0> Fuchs, thank you :)
[09:07] <Fuchs> AlanBell: do you think that https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fuchs  Contributions and Testimonials would be sufficient to apply for membership?
[09:09] <AlanBell> ooh a membership application, we haven't done one of those this year yet
[09:10] <Fuchs> AlanBell: also, do you have the link for it at hand? Afair I'd have to put myself on a meeting schedule and (optional) bring people along to confirm?
[09:10] <AlanBell> there is stuff about it here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership
[09:10] <AlanBell> and a table on this page to add yourself to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcCouncil/MeetingAgenda
[09:11] <AlanBell> and more stuff here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Membership
[09:12] <AlanBell> basically what we are looking for is a significant and sustained contribution to the Ubuntu project like all the other membership boards, but we process applications for people who mostly contribute in the area of IRC
[09:12] <Fuchs> AlanBell: good, then I remember that right. Do you think the contributions mentioned on my page are ~ sufficient?  (I know that you can't say this definitely, but if you are quite sure that they are not, then I won't even bother)
[09:13] <Fuchs> AlanBell: well, I am an OP since 2009
[09:16] <AlanBell> yeah, I am a bit hesitant about commenting too much in advance, but I am looking forward to the first application being added :)
[09:16] <Fuchs> okay, I'll try to get further testimonials which are more IRC related and then add myself
[09:17] <Fuchs> minor sidenote: the next meeting on that page is 5 days in the past
[09:17] <Effenberg0x0> Fuchs, if I may say something...
[09:17] <Fuchs> Effenberg0x0: sure
[09:17] <AlanBell> yeah, I will set the next date, it will be our floating weekday meeting
[09:18] <Effenberg0x0> Your area is IRC... Mine is UF and QA.. so different councils, etc... But, I really felt very insecure if I should apply or not for a couple years. Then people invited me to apply. I was still unsure.
[09:18] <Effenberg0x0> But they actually helped me realize I was too involved in stuff, and deserved it, also as a tool to makesome stuff easier (reaching to devs etc)
[09:19] <Effenberg0x0> So, what I'm saying is... it's normal to not be sure...
[09:19] <Effenberg0x0> But, you should go for it
[09:19] <Effenberg0x0> worst thing that could happen: You'll receive guidance on what to do to reapply soon
[09:19] <Fuchs> thanks
[09:19]  * benonsoftware was like Fuchs, unsure to go for it or not, he was told to by someone and got it :)
[09:21] <Effenberg0x0> everybody seems to go through it... not to mention the butterflies in your belly when people are voting for you... I mean, you do what you do cause you love it... and you'll keep doing it anyway. But, hen you're name is there, out in the open, with people voting on you... oh boy...
[09:27] <Effenberg0x0> matt o/
[09:27] <Effenberg0x0> Here to get a cloak hun?
[09:31] <matt_symes> o/ Effenberg0x0
[09:31] <matt_symes> Here to do the same thing. Must dash at the moment though
[09:31] <Effenberg0x0> Hello Matt :)
[09:32] <Effenberg0x0> that was fast
[09:32] <Myrtti> "too fast"
[09:33] <benonsoftware> lol
[09:33] <Fuchs> Myrtti: no no, you are just too slow
[09:35] <Effenberg0x0> Time to go to work :\ Ubuntu, Y U NO pay me salary (so I can quit my real job?)
[09:38] <Myrtti> the question I've been asking for over a year now.
[09:49] <topyli> Fuchs: when you get to asking "should i apply for membership", you probably should apply
[10:36] <Fuchs> topyli: will do so. I'll prod a few fellow ops to write further testimonials, then I add myself to the next meeting which fits in my agenda as well :)
[10:37] <topyli>  sounds like a plan :)
[10:37] <Fuchs> I am not in a hurry with it anyway :)
[12:03] <matt_symes> o/
[12:03] <Fuchs> \o
[12:03] <matt_symes> How do i get to use my Ubuntu membership cloak  as opposed to the unaffiliated one ?
[12:04] <matt_symes> Hi Fuchs
[12:04] <bazhang> !member | matt_symes
[12:04] <Fuchs> matt_symes: if you have ubuntu membership, you need to get it confirmed here by one of the IRCC guys, then they can tell us staff to update the cloak
[12:05] <matt_symes> Thanks. i have membership. Is that in the #freenode channel  i need to go to ?
[12:05] <Fuchs> no, here
[12:05] <Fuchs> you just have to wait for one of them to wake up
[12:05]  * Fuchs prods AlanBell
[12:06] <matt_symes> Right. Hold on and thanks for your time.
[12:07] <matt_symes> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1936056. This thread was my membership application.
[12:07] <AlanBell> matt_symes: can you post your launchpad page please
[12:08] <matt_symes> AlanBell, no problem, One moment
[12:08] <matt_symes> https://launchpad.net/~matthew-symes
[12:10] <AlanBell> staff can we have an ubuntu/member/matt_symes cloak for matt_symes please
[12:10] <Fuchs> no, but you could have  ubuntu/member/matt-symes  if that is fine
[12:10] <Fuchs> (no _ in cloaks)
[12:10] <matt_symes> Fuchs, sounds great
[12:11] <AlanBell> Fuchs: fine by me
[12:13] <Mkaysi> Shouldn't you !staff ?
[12:13] <Fuchs> no, please don't
[12:13] <AlanBell> cloaks are not urgent
[12:13] <matt_symes> Thanks Fuchs and AlanBell
[12:13] <Mkaysi> Oh, you are staff
[12:13] <Fuchs> matt_symes: set, congratulations :)
[12:14] <matt_symes> :D :D :D
[12:14] <matt_symes> Once again, thanks !
[12:15] <Fuchs> Even for urgent cases, I recommend using /stats p  first  (we had this discussion a few days ago)
[12:15] <Fuchs> the !staff one is a shotgun which just highlights a list of people (which is not even up to date)
[12:16]  * Mkaysi noticed that that it's not up-to-date too.
[12:16] <Mkaysi> It's missing you and Myrtti
[12:17] <Myrtti> huhwhat
[12:17] <Mkaysi> The factoid !staff
[12:17] <Myrtti> right
[12:18]  * Fuchs hands Myrtti a ball of yarn
[12:18] <Myrtti> oooo yarn
[12:18] <Mkaysi> By the way, is !staff normal factoid or does it cause alert to somewhere like !ops ?
[12:19] <Fuchs> Mkaysi: as said, it will print a list of possible staff names, to highlight people
[12:19] <Fuchs> Mkaysi: you can try it in query with the bot (please don't try it in here, if not needed :) )
[12:19] <Mkaysi> Fuchs: But will it send message to some channel?
[12:19] <Mkaysi> I have tried it in query
[12:19] <Fuchs> none that I am aware of, no
[12:19] <Mkaysi> Ok
[14:39] <JanC> *sigh*, fujisan is trolling again...
[14:40] <bazhang> did he ever stop?
[14:40] <bazhang> last sighted was fujisanos
[14:40] <Myrtti> where this time?
[14:42] <JanC> he's PaulYosef currently
[14:42] <JanC> Myrtti: ubuntu-nl* & ubuntu-be
[14:42] <JanC> I banned him (again)
[14:43] <JanC> apparently wasn't banned in our channels when using the freenode webchat yet  ;)
[14:44] <Fuchs> does he have a fixed IP address? Else that might be a bit hard to achieve
[14:54] <JanC> Fuchs: I suspect it's at least semi-fixed (FTTH modems don't have many reasons to disconnect, I suppose)
[14:55] <Fuchs> good
[14:56] <JanC> one problem is that he's desperate enough to switch providers / subscription type over this :-/
[14:56] <Fuchs> lovely
[14:57]  * Mkaysi wonders if someone is going to do something to MoriDeus at #ubuntu-fi. MoriDeus is probably one person who has been banned three times and is banevading.
[14:57] <Fuchs> he appears to be in the english offtopic channel now, jfyi
[14:58] <Fuchs> discussing it, in fact
[14:58] <Fuchs> well. Thanks, Ponypici
[14:59] <Pici> np :)
[14:59] <bazhang> JanC, speak of the devil
[14:59] <bazhang> he just tried to ban evade in u-ot
[14:59] <Fuchs> Pici: here, take this as a piece of my grattitude: http://www.ericfehse.net/media/img/ef/blog/django-pony.jpg
[14:59] <Pici> woo
[14:59] <Myrtti> Mkaysi: I'm all ears for suggestions, we can ban but as you have already seen he uses mobile broadband, gets a new ip, new ident and changes nickname
[15:00] <Myrtti> Mkaysi: so, what do you suggest I'd do?
[15:00] <nigelb> Hey, don't we have a wiki on what to do when we create a new channel?
[15:00] <JanC> we banned that mobile IRC provider
[15:01] <Mkaysi> Myrtti: Ban whole Elisa?
[15:01] <JanC> actually, 2 of those mobile (web?)chat providers
[15:02] <ninnnu> Mkaysi: ...no
[15:02] <ninnnu> Just no
[15:02] <Fuchs> That sounds like a slight bit of an overkill
[15:02] <JanC> Fuchs: he's the only one I ever saw using those services
[15:03] <JanC> and we don't have time to babysit the channels 24/7...
[15:03] <JanC> I certainly prefer banning those services over banning his ISP...
[15:04] <Mkaysi> How about mode +r?
[15:04] <JanC> and it's not like you can't install a proper IRC client on Android
[15:05] <Mkaysi> Yaaic is nice IRC client for Android
[15:05] <DJones> nigelb, Is this what you're looking for https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamHowto or maybe this for setting irc channel flags https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcCouncil/Coordination?action=show&redirect=IrcTeam%2FCoordination
[15:05] <ninnnu> Mkaysi: Still too overkill just for one troll
[15:05] <Fuchs> well
[15:05] <Fuchs> I just had to ban fujisan from #ubuntu-de
[15:06] <nigelb> DJones: YES! Thanks :)
[15:06] <Mkaysi> Honvai has been banned three times
[15:06] <bazhang> de-offtopic has the best factoid
[15:06] <DJones> nigelb, you're welcome
[15:06] <JanC> yay, seems like he's on a roll this evening...
[15:06] <Myrtti> Mkaysi: and he isn't too far from realising that he needs to register and identify to get a cloak
[15:07]  * Mkaysi hopes that he will register
[15:07] <Myrtti> and then what?
[15:07] <ninnnu> Myrtti: And after that it's trivial to ban him.
[15:07] <Mkaysi> Then he is easier to ban
[15:07] <Myrtti> and then when he doesn't identify to this account
[15:07] <Mkaysi> $a:honvai
[15:07] <Myrtti> he can yet again evade the ban
[15:07] <Mkaysi> Hmm
[15:08] <Myrtti> If I'd know for a fact that he'd stay banned once he's registered, I would have told him how to do it ages ago
[15:09] <Myrtti> but since I know that he already knows full well how to evade the ban without an account, I know he knows full well how to evade it with an account
[15:09] <Mkaysi> Doesn't #ubuntu need registration too?
[15:10] <Myrtti> no.
[15:10] <Mkaysi> It did when I registered
[15:10] <Myrtti> only when there is a floodbot attack going on.
[15:30] <Fuchs> bazhang: it has?
[15:30] <bazhang> Fuchs, pardon?
[15:30] <Fuchs> [17:06:41] <bazhang> de-offtopic has the best factoid
[15:30] <bazhang> !de-offtopic
[15:31] <bazhang> must be u-ot only
 Deutschspachlige nonsense gibt es nicht hier, unless sie wollen banniert wesen. Actually, ich werde ihr bannieren anyway.
[15:31] <Fuchs> I guess I have it in logs :)
[15:32] <Fuchs> not very nice ...
[15:32] <Fuchs> (both to german speaking persons and to the person it is addressed at)
[15:32] <bazhang> I guess that works out to : we'll actually probably ban you anyway
[15:33] <bazhang> since it's jokey imo
[15:33] <Fuchs> it does, but it's wrong both regarding spelling and grammar
[16:35] <avelldiroll> Hi there, i had to kick fujisan for spam in #ubuntu-fr today ... isn't his story one year old ?
[16:35] <bazhang> years old
[16:37] <avelldiroll> :/
[16:37] <k1l_> he was in the german channel too :/
[16:38] <JanC> and -nl and -be
[16:39] <JanC> and international
[16:39] <JanC> and probably other
[16:39] <JanC> and pm'ing pages full to me  :P
[16:39] <k1l_> JanC: got a fan :)
[16:40] <bazhang> same here with the PM
[16:40] <avelldiroll> so he still is a spammer / AW ... yeah, he likes /query too
[16:40] <JanC> I'm used to it...
[16:47] <Myrtti> incoming
[16:48] <fujisan> im still protesting against what happened in #ubuntu-nl-offtopic
[16:49] <fujisan> JanC:  just let racism happen
[16:49] <fujisan> so i protest in silence now in this room :-x
[16:51] <jpds> bazhang: Is that suppose to be a joke factoid?
[16:54] <jpds> Oh, right, it is.
[16:56] <jpds> I agree with Fuchs in the sense that it's just unhöflich.
[16:56] <bazhang> heh yeah
[16:57] <bazhang> touch it at yer peril