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pangolinI would say so02:51
bazhangit's alteregoa, so not surprising02:51
ubottubazhang called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic (bleck)04:43
Amaranth@comment 47953 joined and immediately started spamming large quantities of obscene text04:45
AmaranthDoes that not work anymore?04:45
bazhangits @comment #channel message04:46
syrinx_where do i go to ask for an unban?04:52
syrinx_should I just make my case, or ask for a reprieve now?04:53
bazhangwhy were you banned syrinx_ and from which channel04:53
bazhanga bit busy atm, so forgive me if I am slow in responding04:54
syrinx_bazhang: I was banned from #ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic from ikonia, after asking him to "permaban" me04:54
syrinx_and in my defense, I asked to be banned from #u-o, not #ubunutu04:54
syrinx_also in my defense, I understand what I did wrong, and wish to be unbanned from #u-o as well.04:55
bazhangwhich was?04:56
syrinx_I said something in #u-o that was inappropriate, sure. i protested with ikonia about it, and it got to the point where i requested a permaban.04:56
syrinx_i figured he would only ban me from #u-o, not #ubuntu as well04:56
syrinx_i used to help out alot in #ubuntu, and never broke its rules.04:57
syrinx_I also note that just before this, I signed the CoC and applied for "ops"04:57
syrinx_I would also make the case that, quite a few people in here, including you, bazhang, would forgive me of this small foul-up.05:02
bazhangsyrinx_, still checking the ban tracker, am a bit busy with some massive spam flood issues05:02
syrinx_of course, carry on with your business.05:03
ubottuCFHowlett called the ops in #ubuntu (haslguitar)05:11
bazhangsyrinx_, none of the -ot operators seem to be around right now that I can tell. perhaps if you check back in a bit some will turn up05:25
bazhangapologies for being less than attentive05:25
syrinx_should I stay here, or just leave and come back tomorrow?05:27
bazhangsyrinx_, your ban in #ubuntu has been removed. as far as -ot should be a couple of hours if you wish to return then (we dont encourage idlers here)05:33
syrinx_bazhang: thanks!05:34
Tm_Tbazhang: you got banmask for -ot?05:38
bazhang *!*@unaffiliated/syrinx-/x-4255893    Tm_T05:40
ubottuFloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join (1499 users, 1 overflows, 1500 limit))07:57
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mrmistsilly floodbot08:54
LjLhmm, so #bash recommends against the !ABS. they have http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide instead10:20
Jordan_UI trust #bash, and I personally like http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide. I hadn't heard of ABS until just now.10:21
Myrttiwell abs is in package management...10:22
ubottuabs has no aliases - added by Myrtti on 2008-05-14 10:49:55 - last edited by Myrtti on 2008-05-14 10:53:3310:22
ubottuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal10:22
LjLwell http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide  is linked from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal10:23
MyrttiI'm not taking a stance for or against abs, I'm just commenting it is in the repos10:23
ubottuAdvanced Bash-Scripting Guide, obtainable with ${package-manager} install abs-guide, is a quick and comprehensive guide to bash (command line) scripting in *nix systems. It is also viewable via web at http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/10:24
LjLadd "a simpler guide can be found at  http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide"?10:24
Jordan_UWell if it's really as bad as the #bash factoid says it is then we shouldn't be linking to ABS at all.10:26
LjLyet it's well more comprehensive10:27
Jordan_UFor the benefit of others, that in #bash !abs returns: The infamous "Advanced" Bash Scripting Guide should be avoided unless you know how to filter out the junk. It will teach you to write bugs, not scripts. In that light, the BashGuide was written: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide10:27
Jordan_UI haven't found anything terrible yet myself from a quick overview, but they don't quote variables as much as I'd like and this is certainly wrong along with other comments in the same area:  "#! can be omitted if the script consists only of a set of generic system commands, using no internal shell directives. The second example, above, requires the initial #!, since the variable assignment line, lines=50, uses a shell-specific construct. [7] Note ...10:33
Jordan_U... again that #!/bin/sh invokes the default shell interpreter, which defaults to /bin/bash on a Linux machine."10:33
Tm_Tno, sh is just sh, not bash, one cannot rely on that ever10:35
* Tm_T goes nuts10:35
popeyno, sh points to dash on ubuntu10:35
popeylrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 Mar 29 19:53 /bin/sh -> dash10:35
Tm_Tpopey: yup, my point being if someone uses sh, it's sh, doesn't matter if it happens to be bash, dash or anything10:36
Tm_Tif someone uses bash then, one have to make sure it's really bash and not "just some sh"10:36
popeywell, i think they're just making an assumption10:36
popeywhich was fairly accurate 4 years ago10:36
Tm_Tone shouldn't assume that ever10:37
Tm_Tif you ask me10:37
Tm_Tand I'll stop now before I begin ranting about assuming browsers uses white backgroung and black text by default (:10:38
Myrttioh I know that10:38
popeyhence "fairly accurate" and not "accurate"10:38
Myrttidon't let me start on that10:38
popeypeople have black background on their browsers!? :D10:38
* Myrtti goes to write to offbeathome.com editors10:38
* Tm_T hugs Myrtti tightly to prevent her starting on thaty10:38
Tm_Tpopey: yes?10:39
Tm_Tpopey: or red, or green, or whatever10:39
popeyoddballs ☺10:39
Jordan_UI vote for not linking to this guide, based on the strong words from #bash (whose advice I trust highly) and additionally supported by my being able to find something wrong enough to almost encite an op to rant while skimming through it at 3:40 AM :)10:41
Myrttipopey: well I subscribe to offbeathome.com RSS on my Google Reader. My phone pulls that feed from google reader to an app with black background and white text. They've been mucking something up and so I can see only the pictures on my phone, and an odd link here and there, the rest is black.10:42
Tm_Tyeah, if you define text colour, define background too10:45
Tm_T(best is to not define them at all if possible)10:46
syrinx_so...the system doesnt work?11:07
Tm_Twhat system doesn't work?11:11
Tm_Tand hi syrinx_11:12
syrinx_hi Tm_T11:14
syrinx_apparently, ikonia doesn's feel that I deserve to be unbanned from #u-o11:15
syrinx_so he re-banned me11:15
Tm_Twe evaluate the situation based on the information we have in that moment, if new information is gained at later point, we re-evaluate ofcourse.11:15
Tm_Tmakes sense?11:15
syrinx_i'm inclined to believe this is more of a personal vendetta, though]11:16
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ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (repeated abuse from yzhd)14:01
bazhanganyone eat cheese?14:48
bazhangplease tell me this type, oh and I use ubuntu so its on topic14:49
* genii-around sprays the whole can of Easy Cheese at bazhang14:49
bazhang<robotboy> u can help me how to run ubuntu like in my windows14:54
bazhangafter he announces he's going back to windows14:54
ubottubazhang called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic (PaulYosef /fujisan ban evading)14:58
bazhanggetting a bit annoyed at the cross posters from +1 asking for help in #u15:01
bazhangask...wait five seconds...crosspost...I didnt get any help!!15:02
ikoniapeople expect the pre-production systems to be production ready too soon15:03
bazhangsliptees has been told numerous times about this, yet persists15:03
bazhangwhy would someone use early beta if not to fix things15:03
ikoniathis is the issue, they don't want to fix things, they want it to be production ready and you to have answers to their problems15:04
Picithey want to be on the bleeding edge.15:04
ikoniabut want the stability of non-bleeding edge15:04
mneptoksame thing most people want from a relationship.15:11
* genii-around gets "There is no nonsence Deutschspachlige here, unless you want to banniert nature. Actually, I will be your bannieren anyway." from the online translator15:34
fujisani refuse to accept it16:41
fujisani am here to protest16:41
fujisanthe injustice which occurred in #ubuntu-nl-offtopic16:41
bazhangfujisan, thats -irc not here16:42
fujisanstill protesting in silence now :-x16:47
bazhangfujisan, #ubuntu-irc for this16:47
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