| Cuttlefish | What is a good program for someone who knows nothing about | 05:56 |
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| Cuttlefish | linux to get started in the direction of developing? | 05:57 |
| gua | Cuttlefish: that depends a lot on your goals/preferences | 05:58 |
| gua | what you want to build, what language(s), if you're okay reading books or tutorials, are you okay with taking a while to learn an editor or do you want to start learning a language right away | 05:59 |
| gua | or do you know a language or languages and want to apply them specifically to linux development | 05:59 |
| Cuttlefish | I took an intro Java class in college | 06:02 |
| Cuttlefish | that's about it | 06:02 |
| Cuttlefish | I would like to learn a language like c but I really would like a project | 06:03 |
| Cuttlefish | to work towards that can help me learn | 06:03 |
| Cuttlefish | I probably would like to deal with something in TCP/IP if that even makes sense in regards to developing linux | 06:03 |
| gua | Cuttlefish: search the reddit subreddit /r/learnprogramming for learning c | 06:03 |
| gua | one book on linuxish programming that people recommend is the unix programming environment | 06:04 |
| gua | also you have to pick if you want to use an editor like vim or emacs or an IDE like eclipse | 06:04 |
| Cuttlefish | I can't just nano it? lol | 06:05 |
| gua | well yeah, but i'd actually recommend something like gedit over nano | 06:05 |
| Cuttlefish | ok | 06:05 |
| gua | gedit at least has syntax highlighting | 06:05 |
| gua | my personal view is learning vim and emacs is good to do eventually. so the sooner you do it the better, but not everyone agrees with that. | 06:05 |
| Cuttlefish | do you like vim or emacs more? | 06:07 |
| gua | heh | 06:10 |
| gua | Cuttlefish: i think you should do the intro tutorial for each and decide. they both have included tutorials. | 06:11 |
| Cuttlefish | ok thanks | 06:12 |
| gua | C-h t (hold control and press h, then release both and press t) for emacs | 06:12 |
| gua | vimtutor (the command in a terminal) for vim | 06:13 |
| gua | they are quite different from stuff like nano and eclipse and visual studio, so expect a learning curve | 06:13 |
| Cuttlefish | Hey thanks for all the help | 06:16 |
| pleia2 | some additional eyeballs to review would be helpful :) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS-Q/PublicTransit | 15:50 |
| greg-g | pleia2: nice photo of the info booth (as in, nice job taking a photo of it, I would have forgot) | 16:21 |
| pleia2 | I actually did forget :) after getting off the plane my fiance goes "Didn't you want to check on Clipper cards while we were here?" :) | 16:23 |
| greg-g | :) | 16:23 |
| greg-g | even after that I would have forgot the photo part :) | 16:23 |
| pleia2 | we went up and spoke with the people at the booth to get details, and I love pictures | 16:24 |
| greg-g | pitures++ | 16:28 |
| greg-g | also, great photos from Philly, especially the model train at the arboretum | 16:28 |
| bkerensa | pleia2: PublicTrans looks accurate | 16:29 |
| pleia2 | thanks bkerensa | 16:34 |
| greg-g | yeah, my non-comment on actual useful content should indicate that I did not find anything wrong with it, pleia2 | 16:36 |
| pleia2 | oh good, thanks greg-g | 16:36 |
| pleia2 | I've never taken AC Transit, so I might need to track down some Oaklandites | 16:36 |
| DonkeyHotei | i've taken it | 16:37 |
| DonkeyHotei | not really different from sf-muni | 16:37 |
| greg-g | yeah, never done OAK stuff | 16:37 |
| pleia2 | their site says $.25 transfers, is that any transfers or after a time period? | 16:38 |
| greg-g | do we care to talk about Caltrain? I mean, it isn't useful for UDS-specific stuff, only if they want to go to Mozilla's office/Google/etc | 16:38 |
| DonkeyHotei | pleia2: i don't remember, and at this point i wouldn't care, because i have a clipper card | 16:38 |
| pleia2 | greg-g: I was debating that, I think I will end up adding it now that you've mentioned it | 16:38 |
| greg-g | heh, ok | 16:40 |
| bkerensa | I have to go to Mozilla when I am down for UDS but not the Mountain View Office :D | 16:43 |
| greg-g | bkerensa: be thankful | 16:45 |
| bkerensa | greg-g: I hear the new SF office is really swanky and volunteers have co-working space available on-demand :D | 16:46 |
| greg-g | bkerensa: yeah, I haven't been there, but a few people I know have, and the view is awesome and everyone loves it :) | 16:48 |
| === Faqtotum is now known as DonkeyHotei | ||
| pleia2 | ooh, I am totally going to make "I'm a local" buttons for us to wear at UDS | 23:53 |
| * philipballew wants one | 23:54 | |
| philipballew | Critical mass is tonight! Totally gonna rock! | 23:55 |
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