| jrwren | why not? | 01:13 |
|---|---|---|
| * jrwren thinks about upgrading | 01:13 | |
| rick_h | jrwren: this is why I said no at first: http://benjaminkerensa.com/2012/03/29/ubuntu-12-04-beta-2-not-released | 01:58 |
| rick_h | I wasn't sure what was up so said not to upgrade | 01:58 |
| snap-l | But now that it's up, don't upgrade. | 03:02 |
| snap-l | stay stagnant. :) | 03:02 |
| rick_h | morning and tgif | 11:23 |
| snap-l | Feels like Saturday. | 11:37 |
| _stink_ | morning | 12:15 |
| brousch | FRIDAY | 12:16 |
| rick_h | yay | 12:18 |
| brousch | hm http://liliputing.com/2012/03/vivaldi-tablet-with-kde-plasma-active-dissected.html | 12:28 |
| brousch | kind of exciting, but not much better specs than my nook color | 12:28 |
| brousch | son of a bitch | 13:49 |
| brousch | has anyone seen these new buncled PDFs? | 13:50 |
| brousch | bundled | 13:50 |
| rick_h | nope | 13:50 |
| brousch | it's a pdf that contain multiple pdfs | 13:50 |
| rick_h | interesting | 13:50 |
| brousch | no, it is annoying | 13:51 |
| brousch | i don't think any of the linux pdf readers can handle it, except adobe's | 13:51 |
| rick_h | try chrome? probably not but curious | 13:51 |
| brousch | nope | 13:52 |
| brousch | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/101667/pdfuuuuuuuuuuuuuu.png | 13:54 |
| brousch | that's the same thing i get with other readers | 13:54 |
| Milyardo | Bundled PDFs? A they just wrapped in a zip container or something? | 13:54 |
| rick_h | lol | 13:54 |
| brousch | http://help.adobe.com/en_US/Reader/8.0/help.html?content=WSE034CA46-D08F-4fff-AA3C-FF04510DAEF0.html | 13:55 |
| brousch | just when i get all these messed up pdfs handled correctly, they throw a new thing like this at me | 13:57 |
| brousch | I NEED PDF SERENTIY NOW | 13:57 |
| Milyardo | TIL PDFs are now a archival utility | 13:58 |
| brousch | Milyardo: eh? | 14:00 |
| brousch | ok, it looks like pdftk can handle these with `pdftk file.pdf unpack_file` | 14:05 |
| brousch | i had recently removed pdftk because it didn't handle other types of pdf correctly. | 14:07 |
| brousch | now i get to figure out how to detect if a pdf is a collection and then add yet another step to the cleanup process | 14:12 |
| snap-l | brousch: Can't you detect these, and then send a nice note to whomever sent then saying, very politely "KNOCK THAT SHIT OFF"? | 14:25 |
| brousch | i can do that in exactly the same way you can do away with excel | 14:26 |
| snap-l | Yeah, but those aren't PDFs. | 14:26 |
| snap-l | They bundles | 14:27 |
| brousch | they have a .pdf extension | 14:28 |
| snap-l | brousch: Extensions aren't magic. :) | 14:29 |
| brousch | they are created via the same process as regular pdfs | 14:29 |
| snap-l | Can you load them on a nook? | 14:29 |
| brousch | i need to be able to handle them in PdfSerenityNow | 14:29 |
| brousch | snap-l: probably through the adobe reader | 14:30 |
| snap-l | Try it | 14:30 |
| brousch | works fine | 14:32 |
| brousch | through the adobe reader on nook | 14:32 |
| snap-l | Really? That's surprising | 14:32 |
| snap-l | Does the built-in reader support it too? | 14:32 |
| brousch | it's an adobe thing | 14:33 |
| brousch | kindle reader barfs | 14:33 |
| snap-l | yeah, I'd imagine | 14:33 |
| snap-l | The mobile readers tend to lag pretty heavily behind what acrobat can generate | 14:33 |
| brousch | apparently it's been available for a few years | 14:33 |
| snap-l | at least that's my experience. | 14:34 |
| snap-l | though I wonder how much of that is Adobe's fault, and how much of it is OSS PDF libraries. | 14:34 |
| brousch | i use pypdf to count the number of pages in a pdf. i think i'll get with the pypdf author and see if we can add collection detection | 14:55 |
| smoser | snap-l, you have one of these: http://moofi.woot.com/moofi/pedantic | 15:24 |
| smoser | right? | 15:24 |
| smoser | that you bought from jcastro i think | 15:24 |
| snap-l | Yah, the x120e | 15:25 |
| smoser | happy with it? | 15:25 |
| smoser | how is battery life | 15:25 |
| snap-l | Battery life is amazing | 15:25 |
| snap-l | makes it through a CHC without a problem | 15:25 |
| snap-l | I like it | 15:25 |
| snap-l | Interesting that they show it with the low battery life LED showing. :) | 15:26 |
| smoser | its kinda tempting | 15:28 |
| smoser | although maybe i'll just buy http://annarbor.craigslist.org/sys/2890411302.html | 15:28 |
| rick_h | that is tempting, especially as a wife machine | 15:28 |
| snap-l | smoser: Well, you're giving up more disk and 4GB of RAM | 15:29 |
| snap-l | and new IBM smell | 15:29 |
| snap-l | er, Thinkpad | 15:29 |
| smoser | ewll if the memory is 1 stick, then 2GB still cheap to buy. | 15:29 |
| snap-l | I don't think mine as BT, though, so that is kinda nice. | 15:30 |
| snap-l | pretty top-o-the-line | 15:30 |
| rick_h | lol http://superuser.com/questions/231273/what-are-the-windows-a-and-b-drives-used-for | 15:32 |
| rick_h | nothing like feeling a bit old | 15:32 |
| rick_h | between that and seeing the liquor age sign at 1990 at the gas station yesterday...feeling old | 15:32 |
| brousch | rick_h: i think i found 2 gray hairs in my beard yesterday | 15:35 |
| rick_h | I'm skipping grey and going straight to white | 15:35 |
| brousch | my wife said they were blond, but i think she's just being nice | 15:35 |
| rick_h | lol | 15:35 |
| snap-l | you can all shut the old talk now | 15:36 |
| snap-l | ;) | 15:36 |
| brousch | snap-l: getting a hoverround this year? | 15:36 |
| snap-l | Getting a computer-vision-powered turret to keep the damn kids off my lawn | 15:37 |
| brousch | FML. apparently i'm dealing with the friendly kind of pdf package http://acrobatusers.com/tutorials/where_did_pdf_packages_go | 15:41 |
| snap-l | http://cdn-www.cracked.com/articleimages/ob/flowchart.png | 15:42 |
| snap-l | brousch: Congratulations. | 15:42 |
| * ColonelPanic001 brags that his scruffy beard remains reddish blond with no grey. | 15:42 | |
| ColonelPanic001 | when I get old and it goes white, I'm going to leave my hair and beard untrimmed and look like Gandalf. | 15:43 |
| snap-l | ColonelPanic001: JoDee already told me when I go bald, I can have a skullet | 15:44 |
| ColonelPanic001 | \m/ | 15:44 |
| snap-l | Totally going the Devin Townsend route. | 15:44 |
| ColonelPanic001 | it's only proper, for the good of OMC | 15:45 |
| snap-l | heh | 15:47 |
| brousch | screw it, i'm going the lazy route | 15:48 |
| nullspace | wooo thundersnow! | 15:59 |
| nullspace | fuck you too march | 16:00 |
| rick_h | yea, kind of crazy out there | 16:00 |
| rick_h | geeze, talk about a few items http://www.googlestore.com/shop.axd/Home | 16:17 |
| snap-l | I'm totally getting the Google cape | 16:27 |
| snap-l | http://www.googlestore.com/Wearables/Android+Restroom+Sign+T-Shirt.axd ??? | 16:28 |
| greg-g | hilarious, i've been sitting here at the coffee shop for about 15 minutes with my heapphones on but not plugged into my laptop | 16:30 |
| greg-g | good think I wasn't playing anything :) | 16:31 |
| greg-g | (especially OMC) | 16:31 |
| greg-g | s/think/thing/ # come on coffee, KICK IN! | 16:31 |
| snap-l | hah | 16:31 |
| greg-g | i think headphones are part for music and part just mental | 16:32 |
| snap-l | Yeah, I've been guilty of wearing headphones with nothing on | 16:33 |
| snap-l | mostly because it's an easy DND sign | 16:33 |
| greg-g | indeed | 16:34 |
| greg-g | too bad my coworker doesn't get the hint | 16:34 |
| snap-l | Just get some GTFO headphones | 16:35 |
| snap-l | I think Bose makes e'm | 16:35 |
| greg-g | haha, yeah, I could bring my Seinheisens (I suck at spelling) | 16:35 |
| greg-g | but those are open air so they're kind of loud for other people | 16:36 |
| snap-l | Which is why you need to play some slayet | 16:38 |
| snap-l | Slayet | 16:39 |
| snap-l | Oh FFS | 16:39 |
| snap-l | SLAYER | 16:39 |
| snap-l | because as we all know, hippies can't stand Slayer. :) | 16:39 |
| snap-l | Which either means greg-g isn't a true hippie, or South Park lied to us | 16:39 |
| greg-g | A) not a huge fan of slayer, B) South Park still lied | 16:40 |
| snap-l | Damnit | 16:40 |
| greg-g | sorry to be the bearer of bad news | 16:42 |
| smoser | man... | 17:27 |
| smoser | i really want that x120e | 17:27 |
| smoser | :) | 17:27 |
| brousch | bah. 8GB or go home | 17:28 |
| smoser | its a netbook! | 17:29 |
| smoser | :) | 17:29 |
| brousch | that changes nothing | 17:30 |
| smoser | the price is what changes things. | 17:30 |
| jrwren | i don't run VM and i have an SSD. I've found 4G to be plenty and this is AFTER 2.5yrs of using an 8GB notebook with a slow spinning drive. | 17:34 |
| jrwren | YMMV | 17:34 |
| rick_h | yea, I spend most of my day inside of 2gb, but do like the 8gb when I need it | 17:34 |
| rick_h | rare though it is | 17:34 |
| jrwren | it helps that all browsers have gotten MUCH better at memory usage. No more 1GB+ FF processes | 17:34 |
| snap-l | Yeah | 17:34 |
| jrwren | i'm sure they day will come when I say "need more ram" but its not here yet. | 17:35 |
| rick_h | heh, actually that's the killer for me | 17:35 |
| snap-l | although I have 4GB on this machine | 17:35 |
| jrwren | the fast SSD eliminates the bufcache argument IME | 17:35 |
| rick_h | if I runboth FF and Chrome 80% of my ram usage is those two beasts | 17:35 |
| jrwren | rick_h: both use MUCH less ram if you disable flash plugin | 17:35 |
| jrwren | flash is insanely memory hog | 17:35 |
| snap-l | That's what swap is for: to let you know in a tangible way that you need more memory. :) | 17:35 |
| brousch | i should try that | 17:35 |
| snap-l | especially when it starts thrashing | 17:36 |
| rick_h | jrwren: yea, but I hit flash stuff so no disabling | 17:36 |
| jrwren | I'd keep multiple versions around if possible. | 17:37 |
| snap-l | I can't wait for Flash to die a horrible death | 17:37 |
| jrwren | e.g. chrome beta along side chrome dev | 17:37 |
| jrwren | one with flash, another without | 17:37 |
| jrwren | I do that with chrome stable. | 17:37 |
| jrwren | I only launch it when I need flash | 17:37 |
| jrwren | and I immediately close the browser | 17:37 |
| jrwren | and kill process. | 17:38 |
| jrwren | flash is THAT BAD | 17:38 |
| jrwren | its a battery killer too | 17:38 |
| jrwren | and nearly every page on the internet uses it because it gets script injected by those cursed like buttons | 17:38 |
| rick_h | well I do run flashblock so that it's not auto started | 17:39 |
| rick_h | but I do tend to hit something with flash I run nearly daily | 17:39 |
| rick_h | but yea, end of hte day I use more ram but have it to spare | 17:39 |
| brousch | i don't | 17:42 |
| brousch | which is why i say, 8GB or go home | 17:42 |
| greg-g | you ram elitist | 17:46 |
| brousch | i accept your moniker | 17:47 |
| smoser | snap-l, i blame you for loss of $335 from my bank account | 17:49 |
| smoser | (just bought) | 17:49 |
| greg-g | hah | 17:51 |
| jrwren | brousch: what is using your ram? | 17:55 |
| brousch | chrome | 17:55 |
| jrwren | chrome uses 8G of ram? | 17:55 |
| brousch | i only have 4 | 17:56 |
| brousch | it has gotten up to 2.5GB | 17:56 |
| jrwren | wow. wtf are you doing to it? | 17:56 |
| brousch | i go through my feeds and open pages in tabs, then go back and read the pages | 17:57 |
| brousch | so sometimes i have 20 tabs open | 17:57 |
| brousch | i have started bookmarking videos into a to-watch queue. that seems to help | 17:58 |
| brousch | i always have: gmail, gcal, greader, g+, hootsuite open | 17:59 |
| brousch | that runs about 1GB | 17:59 |
| snap-l | smoser: I hope it's everything those $335 would hope it to be. | 18:00 |
| jrwren | so glad I don't use those ;) | 18:04 |
| jrwren | i use greader occasionally | 18:04 |
| jrwren | what is hootsuite ? | 18:04 |
| snap-l | 18:05 | |
| jrwren | lol | 18:06 |
| brousch | multiple twitter accounts | 18:12 |
| brousch | i command accounts for me, grpug, grwebdev, barcampgr, grmobiledev, congawm | 18:12 |
| greg-g | this picture is awesome http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2012/03/denmarks-50-percent-wind-commitment-is-only-the-beginning.ars | 18:23 |
| rick_h | yea, +1 on that | 18:23 |
| krondor | anyone have any recommendations for status.net clients for win/linux/mac? | 18:34 |
| greg-g | krondor: Firefox | 18:34 |
| krondor | work is suddenly re-interested in our status.net box and it seems like the clients all suck now. | 18:34 |
| greg-g | Firefox app-tab, to be exact | 18:34 |
| snap-l | I use Gwibber, but a much older version | 18:35 |
| krondor | greg-g: well obviously :) then I have to convince coworkers they should use firefox | 18:35 |
| greg-g | ok, Chromium :) | 18:35 |
| krondor | wait I thought firefox was killing app-tab? Or am I thinking of sidetabs? | 18:35 |
| _Marcus | I would of convinced them already into using it | 18:35 |
| greg-g | no idea what sidebars are | 18:35 |
| krondor | ah that was chrome killing side tab, not firefox | 18:36 |
| krondor | snap-l: thanks yeah I'm using gwibber and I can't add a custom statusnet url in the version I'm using. I haven't dug too much on it though... | 18:39 |
| greg-g | krondor: you may have to install gwibber-extension-statusnet or something | 18:40 |
| greg-g | gwibber-services-statusnet maybe | 18:40 |
| krondor | aye, gwibber-service-statusnet installing. For other platforms looks like seesmic, tweetdeck, etc.. removed statusnet support. | 18:43 |
| krondor | the official client is very bad | 18:43 |
| snap-l | seesmic didn't remove statusnet | 18:44 |
| snap-l | at least not on the version I'm using on the nook | 18:44 |
| snap-l | it's a separate account | 18:44 |
| krondor | I just installed it on windows and it's not there. Maybe droid version still has it. | 18:44 |
| krondor | I was using mustard on droid, but there's something wrong with my server's oauth pieces so some work to do there still... | 18:44 |
| greg-g | huh, mustard works for identi.ca, but I haven't tried it on our private ccteam.status.net instance yet | 18:45 |
| _Marcus | .ca domain, and there is a bunch of Arabic written on the front page :/ | 18:46 |
| krondor | yeah I think I have the wrong oauth library (too old or too new), generates the keys but mustard doesn't like them neither does gwibber. | 18:46 |
| krondor | also the latest 1.0.1 release has a broken User_usernames.php that breaks all auth plugins. | 18:47 |
| snap-l | _Marcus: Yes, there are international users of identi.ca | 18:50 |
| snap-l | if it makes you feel any better, you can take those arabic strings and run them through Google Translate. | 18:50 |
| _Marcus | Nah | 18:50 |
| greg-g | _Marcus: yes, Identi.ca is used by many is the Middle East | 18:50 |
| snap-l | And if Google Translate is to be believed, they're pretty benign. :) | 18:50 |
| greg-g | s/many is/many in/ | 18:51 |
| greg-g | hrm | 18:51 |
| greg-g | not sure how to take that comment | 18:51 |
| snap-l | and that's why I don't tell the Pharmacy joke | 18:52 |
| greg-g | lol | 18:52 |
| _Marcus | :( I missed why you don't tell it | 18:52 |
| * _Marcus kicks XChat | 18:52 | |
| snap-l | _Marcus: It's a complete non-sequiter. You didn't miss anything. | 18:53 |
| _Marcus | Oh | 18:53 |
| greg-g | grr, my unread-items-I-want-to-read in greader are just growing, not going down :/ | 18:54 |
| snap-l | greg-g: I have a solution for it | 18:54 |
| greg-g | for which? | 18:54 |
| snap-l | greader high unread counts | 18:54 |
| snap-l | it's called "Mark all read" | 18:54 |
| greg-g | NOOOOOOO | 18:55 |
| greg-g | they are important blog posts by people I do not know! | 18:55 |
| snap-l | It enlists the power of Mark to go and read them for you. | 18:55 |
| brousch | instead of books, read your rss feed to him | 18:55 |
| brousch | him being your kid | 18:55 |
| snap-l | brousch: I thought that was in lieu of my book queue | 18:55 |
| snap-l | which, funny enough my RSS queue is pretty low by comparison. | 18:56 |
| greg-g | wait, yeah, good point, who is this Mark guy and why is he reading my RSS reader? | 18:56 |
| snap-l | greg-g: Because Mark is a speed reader | 18:57 |
| snap-l | Like the guy from the Great Space Coaster | 18:57 |
| * snap-l just dated himself. | 18:57 | |
| greg-g | yes, yes you did | 18:58 |
| greg-g | and that was a gross mental image | 18:58 |
| greg-g | snap-l going on a date with snap-l | 18:58 |
| snap-l | greg-g: at least I got dinner first. | 18:58 |
| greg-g | now that crosses the line | 18:59 |
| snap-l | Just had someone ask me to add their Flight Training course to my web page | 19:20 |
| snap-l | apparently they can't tell the difference between a Palm Pilot and an actual pilot. | 19:20 |
| snap-l | OK, this is a holy crap moment | 19:28 |
| snap-l | just found out that Squeezebox server can listen to xPL, which are TCP/IP X10-like requests | 19:29 |
| snap-l | so, you could have something where if you turn on the lights, the radio begins playing | 19:29 |
| snap-l | also, can simulate any button press via the command line | 19:30 |
| snap-l | 00:04:20:12:04:68 button play <- for instance | 19:30 |
| greg-g | whoa, integrated fancy house :) | 19:30 |
| snap-l | and it's all under 'Help' | 19:30 |
| snap-l | Help / Technical information | 19:31 |
| snap-l | Yeah, they really baked in a lot of smart-home functionality in here | 19:31 |
| snap-l | http://xplproject.org.uk/wiki/index.php?title=Schema_-_AUDIO.BASIC | 19:32 |
| greg-g | nice | 19:32 |
| snap-l | http://xplproject.org.uk/wiki/index.php?title=Schema_-_AUDIO.SLIMSERV | 19:33 |
| snap-l | I never thought I'd say this in 2012, but I think some expect scripts might be in order. ;) | 19:33 |
| === deusx is now known as lmorchard | ||
| greg-g | every now and then my .muttrc gets in a condition where I have no idea why something isn't working anymore and going through commit log doesn't help :/ | 22:24 |
| rick_h | heh, you change it that much? | 22:30 |
| greg-g | no, which is the weird part :) | 22:31 |
| greg-g | rick_h: mostly, the confusing part is how my setup on my x220 acts different on my x200s (one is Ubuntu one is Debian, but, wha?) | 23:50 |
| * greg-g needs to do some in-depth debugging sometime, too bad he left his x220 at work for the weekend | 23:51 | |
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