[01:13] why not? [01:13] * jrwren thinks about upgrading [01:58] jrwren: this is why I said no at first: http://benjaminkerensa.com/2012/03/29/ubuntu-12-04-beta-2-not-released [01:58] I wasn't sure what was up so said not to upgrade [03:02] But now that it's up, don't upgrade. [03:02] stay stagnant. :) [11:23] morning and tgif [11:37] Feels like Saturday. [12:15] <_stink_> morning [12:16] FRIDAY [12:18] yay [12:28] hm http://liliputing.com/2012/03/vivaldi-tablet-with-kde-plasma-active-dissected.html [12:28] kind of exciting, but not much better specs than my nook color [13:49] son of a bitch [13:50] has anyone seen these new buncled PDFs? [13:50] bundled [13:50] nope [13:50] it's a pdf that contain multiple pdfs [13:50] interesting [13:51] no, it is annoying [13:51] i don't think any of the linux pdf readers can handle it, except adobe's [13:51] try chrome? probably not but curious [13:52] nope [13:54] http://dl.dropbox.com/u/101667/pdfuuuuuuuuuuuuuu.png [13:54] that's the same thing i get with other readers [13:54] Bundled PDFs? A they just wrapped in a zip container or something? [13:54] lol [13:55] http://help.adobe.com/en_US/Reader/8.0/help.html?content=WSE034CA46-D08F-4fff-AA3C-FF04510DAEF0.html [13:57] just when i get all these messed up pdfs handled correctly, they throw a new thing like this at me [13:57] I NEED PDF SERENTIY NOW [13:58] TIL PDFs are now a archival utility [14:00] Milyardo: eh? [14:05] ok, it looks like pdftk can handle these with `pdftk file.pdf unpack_file` [14:07] i had recently removed pdftk because it didn't handle other types of pdf correctly. [14:12] now i get to figure out how to detect if a pdf is a collection and then add yet another step to the cleanup process [14:25] brousch: Can't you detect these, and then send a nice note to whomever sent then saying, very politely "KNOCK THAT SHIT OFF"? [14:26] i can do that in exactly the same way you can do away with excel [14:26] Yeah, but those aren't PDFs. [14:27] They bundles [14:28] they have a .pdf extension [14:29] brousch: Extensions aren't magic. :) [14:29] they are created via the same process as regular pdfs [14:29] Can you load them on a nook? [14:29] i need to be able to handle them in PdfSerenityNow [14:30] snap-l: probably through the adobe reader [14:30] Try it [14:32] works fine [14:32] through the adobe reader on nook [14:32] Really? That's surprising [14:32] Does the built-in reader support it too? [14:33] it's an adobe thing [14:33] kindle reader barfs [14:33] yeah, I'd imagine [14:33] The mobile readers tend to lag pretty heavily behind what acrobat can generate [14:33] apparently it's been available for a few years [14:34] at least that's my experience. [14:34] though I wonder how much of that is Adobe's fault, and how much of it is OSS PDF libraries. [14:55] i use pypdf to count the number of pages in a pdf. i think i'll get with the pypdf author and see if we can add collection detection [15:24] snap-l, you have one of these: http://moofi.woot.com/moofi/pedantic [15:24] right? [15:24] that you bought from jcastro i think [15:25] Yah, the x120e [15:25] happy with it? [15:25] how is battery life [15:25] Battery life is amazing [15:25] makes it through a CHC without a problem [15:25] I like it [15:26] Interesting that they show it with the low battery life LED showing. :) [15:28] its kinda tempting [15:28] although maybe i'll just buy http://annarbor.craigslist.org/sys/2890411302.html [15:28] that is tempting, especially as a wife machine [15:29] smoser: Well, you're giving up more disk and 4GB of RAM [15:29] and new IBM smell [15:29] er, Thinkpad [15:29] ewll if the memory is 1 stick, then 2GB still cheap to buy. [15:30] I don't think mine as BT, though, so that is kinda nice. [15:30] pretty top-o-the-line [15:32] lol http://superuser.com/questions/231273/what-are-the-windows-a-and-b-drives-used-for [15:32] nothing like feeling a bit old [15:32] between that and seeing the liquor age sign at 1990 at the gas station yesterday...feeling old [15:35] rick_h: i think i found 2 gray hairs in my beard yesterday [15:35] I'm skipping grey and going straight to white [15:35] my wife said they were blond, but i think she's just being nice [15:35] lol [15:36] you can all shut the old talk now [15:36] ;) [15:36] snap-l: getting a hoverround this year? [15:37] Getting a computer-vision-powered turret to keep the damn kids off my lawn [15:41] FML. apparently i'm dealing with the friendly kind of pdf package http://acrobatusers.com/tutorials/where_did_pdf_packages_go [15:42] http://cdn-www.cracked.com/articleimages/ob/flowchart.png [15:42] brousch: Congratulations. [15:42] * ColonelPanic001 brags that his scruffy beard remains reddish blond with no grey. [15:43] when I get old and it goes white, I'm going to leave my hair and beard untrimmed and look like Gandalf. [15:44] ColonelPanic001: JoDee already told me when I go bald, I can have a skullet [15:44] \m/ [15:44] Totally going the Devin Townsend route. [15:45] it's only proper, for the good of OMC [15:47] heh [15:48] screw it, i'm going the lazy route [15:59] wooo thundersnow! [16:00] fuck you too march [16:00] yea, kind of crazy out there [16:17] geeze, talk about a few items http://www.googlestore.com/shop.axd/Home [16:27] I'm totally getting the Google cape [16:28] http://www.googlestore.com/Wearables/Android+Restroom+Sign+T-Shirt.axd ??? [16:30] hilarious, i've been sitting here at the coffee shop for about 15 minutes with my heapphones on but not plugged into my laptop [16:31] good think I wasn't playing anything :) [16:31] (especially OMC) [16:31] s/think/thing/ # come on coffee, KICK IN! [16:31] hah [16:32] i think headphones are part for music and part just mental [16:33] Yeah, I've been guilty of wearing headphones with nothing on [16:33] mostly because it's an easy DND sign [16:34] indeed [16:34] too bad my coworker doesn't get the hint [16:35] Just get some GTFO headphones [16:35] I think Bose makes e'm [16:35] haha, yeah, I could bring my Seinheisens (I suck at spelling) [16:36] but those are open air so they're kind of loud for other people [16:38] Which is why you need to play some slayet [16:39] Slayet [16:39] Oh FFS [16:39] SLAYER [16:39] because as we all know, hippies can't stand Slayer. :) [16:39] Which either means greg-g isn't a true hippie, or South Park lied to us [16:40] A) not a huge fan of slayer, B) South Park still lied [16:40] Damnit [16:42] sorry to be the bearer of bad news [17:27] man... [17:27] i really want that x120e [17:27] :) [17:28] bah. 8GB or go home [17:29] its a netbook! [17:29] :) [17:30] that changes nothing [17:30] the price is what changes things. [17:34] i don't run VM and i have an SSD. I've found 4G to be plenty and this is AFTER 2.5yrs of using an 8GB notebook with a slow spinning drive. [17:34] YMMV [17:34] yea, I spend most of my day inside of 2gb, but do like the 8gb when I need it [17:34] rare though it is [17:34] it helps that all browsers have gotten MUCH better at memory usage. No more 1GB+ FF processes [17:34] Yeah [17:35] i'm sure they day will come when I say "need more ram" but its not here yet. [17:35] heh, actually that's the killer for me [17:35] although I have 4GB on this machine [17:35] the fast SSD eliminates the bufcache argument IME [17:35] if I runboth FF and Chrome 80% of my ram usage is those two beasts [17:35] rick_h: both use MUCH less ram if you disable flash plugin [17:35] flash is insanely memory hog [17:35] That's what swap is for: to let you know in a tangible way that you need more memory. :) [17:35] i should try that [17:36] especially when it starts thrashing [17:36] jrwren: yea, but I hit flash stuff so no disabling [17:37] I'd keep multiple versions around if possible. [17:37] I can't wait for Flash to die a horrible death [17:37] e.g. chrome beta along side chrome dev [17:37] one with flash, another without [17:37] I do that with chrome stable. [17:37] I only launch it when I need flash [17:37] and I immediately close the browser [17:38] and kill process. [17:38] flash is THAT BAD [17:38] its a battery killer too [17:38] and nearly every page on the internet uses it because it gets script injected by those cursed like buttons [17:39] well I do run flashblock so that it's not auto started [17:39] but I do tend to hit something with flash I run nearly daily [17:39] but yea, end of hte day I use more ram but have it to spare [17:42] i don't [17:42] which is why i say, 8GB or go home [17:46] you ram elitist [17:47] i accept your moniker [17:49] snap-l, i blame you for loss of $335 from my bank account [17:49] (just bought) [17:51] hah [17:55] brousch: what is using your ram? [17:55] chrome [17:55] chrome uses 8G of ram? [17:56] i only have 4 [17:56] it has gotten up to 2.5GB [17:56] wow. wtf are you doing to it? [17:57] i go through my feeds and open pages in tabs, then go back and read the pages [17:57] so sometimes i have 20 tabs open [17:58] i have started bookmarking videos into a to-watch queue. that seems to help [17:59] i always have: gmail, gcal, greader, g+, hootsuite open [17:59] that runs about 1GB [18:00] smoser: I hope it's everything those $335 would hope it to be. [18:04] so glad I don't use those ;) [18:04] i use greader occasionally [18:04] what is hootsuite ? [18:05] twitter [18:06] lol [18:12] multiple twitter accounts [18:12] i command accounts for me, grpug, grwebdev, barcampgr, grmobiledev, congawm [18:23] this picture is awesome http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2012/03/denmarks-50-percent-wind-commitment-is-only-the-beginning.ars [18:23] yea, +1 on that [18:34] anyone have any recommendations for status.net clients for win/linux/mac? [18:34] krondor: Firefox [18:34] work is suddenly re-interested in our status.net box and it seems like the clients all suck now. [18:34] Firefox app-tab, to be exact [18:35] I use Gwibber, but a much older version [18:35] greg-g: well obviously :) then I have to convince coworkers they should use firefox [18:35] ok, Chromium :) [18:35] wait I thought firefox was killing app-tab? Or am I thinking of sidetabs? [18:35] <_Marcus> I would of convinced them already into using it [18:35] no idea what sidebars are [18:36] ah that was chrome killing side tab, not firefox [18:39] snap-l: thanks yeah I'm using gwibber and I can't add a custom statusnet url in the version I'm using. I haven't dug too much on it though... [18:40] krondor: you may have to install gwibber-extension-statusnet or something [18:40] gwibber-services-statusnet maybe [18:43] aye, gwibber-service-statusnet installing. For other platforms looks like seesmic, tweetdeck, etc.. removed statusnet support. [18:43] the official client is very bad [18:44] seesmic didn't remove statusnet [18:44] at least not on the version I'm using on the nook [18:44] it's a separate account [18:44] I just installed it on windows and it's not there. Maybe droid version still has it. [18:44] I was using mustard on droid, but there's something wrong with my server's oauth pieces so some work to do there still... [18:45] huh, mustard works for identi.ca, but I haven't tried it on our private ccteam.status.net instance yet [18:46] <_Marcus> .ca domain, and there is a bunch of Arabic written on the front page :/ [18:46] yeah I think I have the wrong oauth library (too old or too new), generates the keys but mustard doesn't like them neither does gwibber. [18:47] also the latest 1.0.1 release has a broken User_usernames.php that breaks all auth plugins. [18:50] _Marcus: Yes, there are international users of identi.ca [18:50] if it makes you feel any better, you can take those arabic strings and run them through Google Translate. [18:50] <_Marcus> Nah [18:50] _Marcus: yes, Identi.ca is used by many is the Middle East [18:50] And if Google Translate is to be believed, they're pretty benign. :) [18:51] s/many is/many in/ [18:51] hrm [18:51] not sure how to take that comment [18:52] and that's why I don't tell the Pharmacy joke [18:52] lol [18:52] <_Marcus> :( I missed why you don't tell it [18:52] * _Marcus kicks XChat [18:53] _Marcus: It's a complete non-sequiter. You didn't miss anything. [18:53] <_Marcus> Oh [18:54] grr, my unread-items-I-want-to-read in greader are just growing, not going down :/ [18:54] greg-g: I have a solution for it [18:54] for which? [18:54] greader high unread counts [18:54] it's called "Mark all read" [18:55] NOOOOOOO [18:55] they are important blog posts by people I do not know! [18:55] It enlists the power of Mark to go and read them for you. [18:55] instead of books, read your rss feed to him [18:55] him being your kid [18:55] brousch: I thought that was in lieu of my book queue [18:56] which, funny enough my RSS queue is pretty low by comparison. [18:56] wait, yeah, good point, who is this Mark guy and why is he reading my RSS reader? [18:57] greg-g: Because Mark is a speed reader [18:57] Like the guy from the Great Space Coaster [18:57] * snap-l just dated himself. [18:58] yes, yes you did [18:58] and that was a gross mental image [18:58] snap-l going on a date with snap-l [18:58] greg-g: at least I got dinner first. [18:59] now that crosses the line [19:20] Just had someone ask me to add their Flight Training course to my web page [19:20] apparently they can't tell the difference between a Palm Pilot and an actual pilot. [19:28] OK, this is a holy crap moment [19:29] just found out that Squeezebox server can listen to xPL, which are TCP/IP X10-like requests [19:29] so, you could have something where if you turn on the lights, the radio begins playing [19:30] also, can simulate any button press via the command line [19:30] 00:04:20:12:04:68 button play <- for instance [19:30] whoa, integrated fancy house :) [19:30] and it's all under 'Help' [19:31] Help / Technical information [19:31] Yeah, they really baked in a lot of smart-home functionality in here [19:32] http://xplproject.org.uk/wiki/index.php?title=Schema_-_AUDIO.BASIC [19:32] nice [19:33] http://xplproject.org.uk/wiki/index.php?title=Schema_-_AUDIO.SLIMSERV [19:33] I never thought I'd say this in 2012, but I think some expect scripts might be in order. ;) === deusx is now known as lmorchard [22:24] every now and then my .muttrc gets in a condition where I have no idea why something isn't working anymore and going through commit log doesn't help :/ [22:30] heh, you change it that much? [22:31] no, which is the weird part :) [23:50] rick_h: mostly, the confusing part is how my setup on my x220 acts different on my x200s (one is Ubuntu one is Debian, but, wha?) [23:51] * greg-g needs to do some in-depth debugging sometime, too bad he left his x220 at work for the weekend