[00:02] <eruditehermit> cnd, hey, is gesture support working?
[00:40] <cnd> I can't seem to get xorg-server to build properly
[00:40] <cnd> I'm using parallel=16
[00:40] <cnd> I think that may have something to do with it
[00:40] <cnd> but that has always worked in the past
[00:40] <cnd> I'm trying without any parallel
[00:41] <RAOF> cnd: What's failing?
[00:41] <cnd> that's the thing, I don't know
[00:41] <cnd> it's very non-obvious
[00:41] <RAOF> Aah, the joys of no multiplexing.
[00:41] <RAOF> Got it pushed to git?  I can build locally.
[00:42] <cnd> RAOF, this is what I get at the end: http://paste.ubuntu.com/906483/
[00:42] <cnd> I'll push to git
[00:42] <RAOF> We can also turn on the integration tests while where at it.
[00:42] <cnd> pushed
[00:45] <RAOF> Yeah, the actual error will be waaaaay back.
[00:45] <RAOF> Oh!  That's why this system's so slow.  I seem to be using 4G of swap.
[00:45] <RAOF> Ah, Chromium and Evolution, you are marvellous, but perhaps not 6G worth of marvellous.
[00:46] <cnd> Chromium I can understand, but Evolution? marvelous?
[00:47] <cnd> RAOF, ahh
[00:47] <cnd> it's your gtest patch
[00:47] <RAOF> Well, perhaps not marvellous.
[00:47] <RAOF> But “less sucky than the alternatives”
[00:48] <RAOF> cnd: Oh, that breaks something?
[00:48] <RAOF> cnd: Or the tests are failing?
[00:48] <cnd> yeah, all over :0
[00:48] <cnd> they won't compile
[00:48] <cnd> probably due to the libxorg-gtest changes
[00:48] <RAOF> That'd be right.
[00:48] <cnd> RAOF, http://paste.ubuntu.com/906488/
[00:49] <RAOF> Allow me to fix that for you
[00:49] <cnd> RAOF, unfortunately, we need the server pushed with one of the other fixes asap
[00:49] <cnd> do you think you can get this fixed and uploaded today?
[00:49] <RAOF> Well, it won't fail on the buildds.
[00:49] <RAOF> Because it won't build those tests.
[00:50] <cnd> ahhh
[00:50] <cnd> RAOF, would you rather upload now, and you can fix it in due course?
[00:50] <cnd> or fix it now and upload in a few hours
[00:50] <RAOF> If you've got urgent fixes, upload now.
[00:50] <cnd> ok
[00:50] <RAOF> I'll fix it in due course.
[00:51] <RAOF> It's not like the build time checks are urgent.
[00:51] <RAOF> Also, they'll cause the X server to hit dep-wait until the relevent packages get promoted.
[00:51] <cnd> yeah
[00:51]  * cnd fires of a nocheck build
[00:51] <cnd> off*
[01:30] <Sarvatt> ooo, ITPs for utouch in debian, awesome!
[01:41] <cnd> yep :)
[01:41] <cnd> Sarvatt, now that utouch doesn't require a multi-thousand line patch in xserver, we figure it might actually make it into other distros :)
[01:41] <cnd> it's a crazy thought
[01:42] <Sarvatt> cnd: yeah its freaking awesome that the X side doesnt need crazy stuff now, except now xfixes!!
[01:42] <cnd> heh
[01:42]  * cnd points at RAOF
[01:42] <cnd> it's not me this time!
[01:42]  * Sarvatt points at RAOF too
[01:43] <cnd> I got my crap out before the LTS release at least :)
[01:43] <Sarvatt> its still much less of a change than is needed in all the gnome crap though :)
[01:43] <cnd> maverick is almost dead
[01:43] <RAOF> cnd: Yeah, it's high priority to get that done.
[01:43] <Sarvatt> and the whole compiz supported by pkg-xorg in debian and desktop team in ubuntu thing
[01:52] <Sarvatt> it would be awesome to see unity in debian optionally at least, but yeah its not the gnome 2 everyone wants to keep going, not like theres gonna be anyone caring outside of ubuntu, and its complicated enough that its more than one person could do most likely
[01:53] <Sarvatt> utouch-evemu will be freaking useful at least regardless :)
[02:01] <Sarvatt> unity in debian is strange, gnome 3 is forced on everyone so its "accepted" but theres a lot more work needed for unity that noone wants to deal with
[02:03] <Sarvatt> but i see complaints that its not even in debian
[02:04] <Sarvatt> it took me over a year to accept and embrace the changes in unity
[02:05] <Sarvatt> aka its less shit than what i would put up with in gnome 3
[02:07] <Sarvatt> guess thats too real to say in a channel bound by the CoC, I'm sorry :)
[02:12] <RAOF> :)
[02:12] <RAOF> I think it's getting less difficult to package Unity over time.
[02:13] <Sarvatt> yeah i feel the same way, compiz is the big problem still imo
[02:13] <Sarvatt> "someone" needs to maintain it in debian before it just gets removed, pkg-xorg is maintaining it now but none of us are in that path
[02:16] <Sarvatt> the people maintaining it in ubuntu which is the only place its released for atm are in pkg-gnome
[02:16] <Sarvatt> debian is still on 0.8.x compiz
[02:17] <Sarvatt> aka lucid compiz
[02:17] <RAOF> Oooh, urgh.
[02:23] <Sarvatt> RAOF: btw, s precise still boned for ivb for you?
[02:23] <Sarvatt> i need to check that out if so
[02:23] <RAOF> Yes, it is.
[02:23]  * Sarvatt is still on 11.10
[02:24] <Sarvatt> RAOF: displayport monitors by any chance?
[02:24] <RAOF> I'm not restarting for a while because it's doing a backup, but the current status is that I know 3.3-rc7 works, and our 3.2 kernel doesn't.
[02:24] <RAOF> Yes, I am indeed using a DP monitor.
[02:24] <RAOF> Because screw that VGA nonsense.
[02:24] <Sarvatt> ok so crap I cant check, go figure
[02:24] <Sarvatt> i've heard many woes about 3.2 and dp though
[02:25] <Sarvatt> all the OEM crap is using 11.10 so i've had to care about that more, i'm glad someone can care about 12.04 :P
[02:26] <Sarvatt> the intel guys say 3.2 is fail for dp though, i'll see if i can come up with anything for that
[02:28] <Sarvatt> tuesday is the latest kernel changes can go in for the 12.04 livecd kernel, go figure its tight timing
[02:33] <RAOF> You reckon that DP is the issue?  That should significantly reduce my bisection requirements.
[02:34] <Sarvatt> 100% positive
[02:34] <Sarvatt> i'm monitor shopping now
[02:35] <Sarvatt> your monitor have hdmi/dvi ports to be sure?
[02:35] <RAOF> It does, yes.
[02:35] <Sarvatt> do you have cords to check? :P
[02:36] <RAOF> I presume that a (passive) DP→DVI connector would work?
[07:57] <tjaalton> Sarvatt: hmm, having these in git would make things easier ;)
[07:58] <tjaalton> for me anyway, but a debdiff isn't too bad..
[10:01] <tjaalton> meh, forgot to add DM-Upload-Allowed to libwacom..
[10:14] <tjaalton> oh well, replied to my AM, so hopefully that won't be an issue for too long
[19:47] <FernandoMiguel> hi