[00:00] <newblikegr> and since the panel is transparent and my background is dark, I was wondering if changing it is possible at all
[00:01] <JelloPop> well got to go to work  have fun ... wish there was a way to transfer playlist to andriod phone :(
[00:01] <JelloPop> JelloPop: other then itunes..
[00:01] <JelloPop> later have fun
[00:01] <JelloPop> :) work time
[00:02] <excelsior> jelatta: thanks
[00:02] <moes> Etronik, /set irc_conf_mode 1   /gui apply
[00:03] <Etronik> moes thanks
[00:03] <Etronik> much better...
[00:04] <Etronik> how can I make this permanent ?
[00:04] <lesshaste> how can I set up dual monitors? It only sees one of them now
[00:05] <lesshaste> I have 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV44 [Quadro NVS 285] (rev a1)
[00:05] <moes> Etronik, That should make it permanent
[00:05] <Etronik> moes, great
[00:06] <lesshaste> system-preferences-> display says "unknow"
[00:06] <lesshaste> unknown
[00:06] <lesshaste> how can I fix that?
[00:07] <janailson> Olá, pessoal
[00:07] <bobweaver> lesshaste,  you have installed the 3rd party nvidia driver (just jumping in now )
[00:08] <lesshaste> bobweaver, yes although I wasn't sure which version to choose
[00:09] <lesshaste> bobweaver, lsmod shows nvidia              10390874  44
[00:09] <newblikegr> clear
[00:09] <bobweaver> open vividia display manager
[00:09] <thirst> hi guys
[00:09] <bobweaver> and try to detect that way
[00:09] <lesshaste> bobweaver, ok .. how? system settings-> display?
[00:09] <moparisthebest> I'm getting an unmet dependencies problem, but packages.ubuntu.com says it exists and such:
[00:09] <moparisthebest> http://paste.ubuntu.com/906458/
[00:10] <lesshaste> bobweaver, it says "unknown" for the monitors
[00:10] <thirst> ubuntu installer doesn't list my first hd, sda in the list, it lists only my second disk sdb. fdisk shows it correctly though. Any tips to get around it ?
[00:10] <moparisthebest> any ideas?  I really need this to build some packages
[00:10] <moparisthebest> i've even changed the mirror to archive.ubuntu.com
[00:10] <bobweaver> lesshaste, what [luk]ubuntu 11.10 ?
[00:10] <lesshaste> ubuntu
[00:10] <moparisthebest> oh, this is lucid 10.04 by the way
[00:11] <lesshaste> bobweaver, oneiric
[00:11] <bobweaver> cool
[00:11] <bobweaver> lesshaste,  you open nvidia settings
[00:11] <bobweaver> type into unity search bar
[00:11] <bobweaver> or just unity
[00:11] <bobweaver> or just nvidia   *
[00:12] <bobweaver> Do you get anything ?n
[00:13] <thirst> is there a non-graphical mode for ubuntu installer ?
[00:13] <Someguy123> thirst yeah
[00:13] <Someguy123> you can get the "Alternative Installer" version
[00:14] <Someguy123> okay what is wrong with xchat on the live CD...
[00:14] <newblikegr> clear
[00:14] <bobweaver> lesshaste,  sometimes on one of my computers that runs nvidia I have to drop the nvidia and use nouveua and then it get both displays
[00:14] <Someguy123> I just grabbed xchat-gnome from apt while running this live USB, and I don't see how I add a serverm seriously
[00:14] <lesshaste> bobweaver, yes nvidia-settings runs.. should I run it as root?
[00:14] <Someguy123> this is rediculous
[00:14] <newblikegr> wow, thank got for Xfce
[00:15] <newblikegr> I don't have to stay on 10.04
[00:15] <Someguy123> okay, I don't get it, how do I add a damn server on xchat-gnome
[00:15] <Someguy123> there's no option for it anywhere o_O
[00:16] <bobweaver> lesshaste,  under nvidia-settings look look around there is a detect  monitors or something like that but like I said above about one of my computers out of 3 that run nvidia needs nouvuea
[00:16] <Someguy123> oh found it... Why would they hide it away in PREFERENCES =_=
[00:17] <aguitel> i am in 11.10 triyng to upgrade to 12.04 ,when i type in command line sudo do-release-upgrade -d it say :No new release found ,why ?
[00:17] <newblikegr> Which network do you want to add the channel in? Freenode?
[00:18] <newblikegr> you need to /msg Chanserv register
[00:18] <newblikegr> if on freenode
[00:19] <newblikegr> type /msg ChanServ help for more
[00:19] <lesshaste> bobweaver, it looks promised but twinview is greyed out
[00:19] <lesshaste> bobweaver, is this because the monitors have different resolutions?
[00:19] <bobweaver> lesshaste,  can you take a screenshot ?
[00:19] <bobweaver> !screenshot | lesshaste
[00:19] <lesshaste> bobweaver, of nvidia-settings?
[00:19] <bobweaver> yup
[00:20] <Someguy123[afk]> will someone please tell me there's an alternative X-Chat available for ubuntu 11.10... The xchat-gnome in apt... IS TERRIBLE
[00:20] <thirst> any reason why ubuntu installer doesnt list my first hd(sda) in the list ?
[00:20] <bobweaver> Somefellow,  Quessal ?
[00:21] <bobweaver> sorry that was for Someguy123[afk]
[00:21] <Someguy123[afk]> bobweaver, really  I want the original x-chat
[00:21] <lesshaste> bobweaver, http://imagebin.org/205893
[00:21] <Someguy123[afk]> not this crazy retardified gnome version
[00:21] <Someguy123[afk]> but it's not in the repo's
[00:21] <Someguy123[afk]> o_O
[00:22] <dlentz> Someguy123[afk], apt-get install xchat
[00:22] <Someguy123[afk]> dlentz, I'm going to guess they're missing it from the default repo's on the live CD
[00:22] <Someguy123[afk]> well, live USB
[00:22] <bobweaver> lesshaste,  in the dropdown menu where it is dell blah blah can you slect other ones ?
[00:23] <bobweaver> select *
[00:23] <bobweaver> also on Resolution can that be normal or like auto or something like that ?
[00:23] <lesshaste> bobweaver, yes
[00:24] <bobweaver> in configuration there are 3 options correct ?
[00:24]  * bobweaver is boot nvida computer 
[00:27] <jtreminio> Hello - can anyone point me to the folder where VPN connection files are kept on the system? I've setup a VPN connection using the GUI, but want to copy those files over to another pc
[00:28] <raj> why is #libreoffice dead?
[00:30] <nightrid3r> i want to setup a vnc connection to a box where there's no one loged in localy, kinda like the edubuntu terminal server, only diff is that the other en just runs xubuntu instead of booting from the server
[00:33] <aguitel> i am in 11.04 triyng to upgrade to 11.10 ,when i type in command line sudo do-release-upgrade -d it say :No new release found ,why ?
[00:34] <zruty> How can I get more themes in 11.10?
[00:39] <bastidrazor> !upgrade | aguitel
[00:40] <ejv> nightrid3r: nomachine nx works great for that
[00:40] <Pilot200hrWonder> What would make sound quite working on logout/log back in? I cold boot, login and the sound works just fine. I logout, log back in and no soumd. The only way I have managed to get sound working again is to cold boot again? I have no idea where to start to fight this problem, google has no help
[00:40] <pyr0_> \
[00:40] <nightrid3r> thanks
[00:41] <ejv> nightrid3r: if you prefer the 'freer' blend, there's freenx, but that's what you want i think
[00:41] <nightrid3r> ok
[00:41] <ejv> nightrid3r: builds are available here: http://www.nomachine.com/select-package.php?os=linux&id=1
[00:42] <ejv> nightrid3r: freenx: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[00:42] <kaushal> Hi
[00:43] <kaushal> Any similar software available in ubuntu in lines with putty connection manager which has multiple tabs
[00:43] <pyr0_> this doesn't matter much, but when I login in 11.10 (removed unity and installed gnome) all the icons in the panel are squished together (they overlap a little), if I move the mouse over them they straighten out and stay the way they should look. Does anyone know why this might be or what the fix might be?  I don't really mind that much but I'm curious as to why it is.
[00:43] <thirst> Someguy123: Thanks. - this fixed my issue - http://www.pendrivelinux.com/ubuntu-installer-cant-find-my-sata-drive/
[00:43] <aguitel> bastidrazor, thanks
[00:43] <ejv> kaushal: screen or tmux, it's called terminal multiplexing
[00:44] <kaushal> ejv: i mean gnome-connection-manager
[00:44] <ejv> kaushal: i have no idea what that is, sorry
[00:44] <sneila90> I need to install libftdi >=0.17 from source. Everything seems to work fine until I try to install a program that depends on this lib, then it exits saying that libftdi won't be installed.
[00:46] <ejv> sneila90: so install it from source
[00:46] <Pilot200hrWonder> Anyone got any idea why sound would quit after logout/login?
[00:49] <sneila90> ejv: I have done it, but it won't be recognized when trying to install a package that depends on it. Read my previous again.
[00:50] <Pilot200hrWonder> Or is this not the correct channel?
[00:50] <usr13> Pilot200hrWonder: It quits if you log out and back in again?  hummm... I dono.  Why is it "quiting"?
[00:50] <sneila90> Have tried installing libftdi from source package. Everything seems OK until I try installing a package that depends on this lib. Then apt-get says it lacks the dependency and libftdi won't be installed.
[00:51] <usr13> Pilot200hrWonder: Or what exactly is quitting?  Is it just being muted?  Or....?
[00:51] <usr13> Pilot200hrWonder: Fire up  alsamixer  and see what's going on.
[00:51] <Pilot200hrWonder> No as in no sound is coming out
[00:51] <Pilot200hrWonder> alsamixer has all the channels 100% and nothing muted
[00:52] <Pilot200hrWonder> I am running it through HDMI
[00:52] <usr13> Pilot200hrWonder: What audio source are you trying to play, and what audio player ..?
[00:53] <Pilot200hrWonder> It is any audio player, source is just an MP3 or Wave
[00:53] <usr13> Pilot200hrWonder: Well, run your player of choice from terminal and watch terminal for errors.
[00:54] <Pilot200hrWonder> speakertest does nto even work
[00:54] <Pilot200hrWonder> er even work
[00:55] <usr13> What version of Ubuntu?
[00:55] <Pilot200hrWonder> 11.10
[00:55] <Pilot200hrWonder> So I just cold booted, logged in and am running speaker-test -Dplughw:0,3
[00:55] <Pilot200hrWonder> No issues
[00:56] <Pilot200hrWonder> I choose logout, get to the loging screen
[00:56] <Pilot200hrWonder> login and nothing
[00:56] <usr13> Pilot200hrWonder: Maybe it's a problem with pulseaudio.  Try uninstalling it.
[00:57] <Pilot200hrWonder>  OK
[00:58] <Pilot200hrWonder> It is not even installed, pulseaudio
[00:58] <usr13> Pilot200hrWonder: Maybe this is it:  Bug #870063
[01:00] <usr13> Pilot200hrWonder: Is your system fully updated?
[01:01] <Pilot200hrWonder> user13, yes as of last night
[01:01] <Pilot200hrWonder> One sec that bug seems to mention sound card permissions
[01:03] <Pilot200hrWonder> OK this is a little beyond me, the sound card device would be located where?
[01:03] <lucas_> alguem ?
[01:03] <usr13> Pilot200hrWonder: Either on the MotherBoard or in a PCI slot.
[01:04] <usr13> Pilot200hrWonder: What sound card do you have?
[01:04] <lucas_> Alguem ai fala portugues ??
[01:04] <lucas_> Alguem ai fala portugues ??
[01:04] <lucas_> Alguem ai fala portugues ??
[01:04] <FloodBot1> lucas_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:04] <lucas_> Alguem ai fala portugues ??
[01:05] <lucas_> renato ?
[01:05] <velko> !pt | lucas_
[01:05] <Pilot200hrWonder> It is an onboard nVidia
[01:05] <Pilot200hrWonder> One sec here...
[01:05] <Pilot200hrWonder> Thing is it was working fine under an old install of 10 that died with a harddrive so this is a new install
[01:05] <usr13> Pilot200hrWonder: What does  alsamixer say about it?  (Look in the top left corner of the alsamixer window.)
[01:06] <Pilot200hrWonder>  Nvidia MCP77/78 HDMI
[01:09] <spaceneedle> They need to fix the Nvidia  drivers for ubuntu 12.04--the windows open and close too slow. I had to uninstall 12.04 because of this problem.
[01:10] <usr13> Pilot200hrWonder: lsmod | grep snd  #pastebinit
[01:10] <usr13> !pastebinity
[01:10] <usr13> !pastebinit
[01:12] <Pilot200hrWonder> OK
[01:12] <Pilot200hrWonder> Let me try tht
[01:12] <Pilot200hrWonder> er that
[01:13] <usr13> Pilot200hrWonder: I don't know if spaceneedle was commenting on your issue, but sounds like a bug... I dono if I can be of any help.  You may just have to wait for it to get solved later on.
[01:13] <Pilot200hrWonder> http://pastebin.com/8KUmU2EE
[01:13] <Pilot200hrWonder> I see
[01:13] <Pilot200hrWonder> I don't logt out *that* often, it is just a HTPC
[01:14] <lucas_> what the best ? AMD HD6990 or Geforce GTX 680 ?
[01:15] <lucas_> what the best ? AMD HD6990 or Geforce GTX 680 ?
[01:16] <Pilot200hrWonder> I am using lightdm that and the inability for me to autologin? I just can't it to work is quite odd.
[01:17] <luxgeek> Aside from a fresh install...how can I reset OR get my diff ubuntu desktops working again? Ubuntu 11.04, I generally use lxkde and decided to check out untiy again...every win I bring up has some background pic and I don't see anything that is to be IN the window...help?
[01:17] <luxgeek> I'm not sure if it's a window manager iss...(i.e. gdm or diff one )
[01:18] <luxgeek> Honestly can't remember how to check
[01:18] <ratcheer> luxgeek: My Unity is kind of messed up because I've been using gnome-shell. Reinstall is the only sure way to fix it.
[01:19] <luxgeek> Well...sure way or not...I have way to much other stuff installed to be truly worth doing that atm :(
[01:19] <usr13>  Pilot200hrWonder What?
[01:19] <usr13> Pilot200hrWonder: (I don't understand your last question.)
[01:19] <velko> luxgeek, create new user and try to log in as that user. if all is normal - copy your files over
[01:19] <luxgeek> Ah...good idea...hadn't thought of that...
[01:20] <Pilot200hrWonder> I was just commenting that the entire lightdm seems to be a bit? off
[01:20] <Pilot200hrWonder> I am unable to get autlogin to work and the sound issue when loging out
[01:20] <DasEi> luxgeek: you can aleways have different desktops in paralell, choosing which to use at login-time
[01:20] <DasEi> !info lubuntu-desktop
[01:21] <usr13> Pilot200hrWonder: Try  xfce
[01:21] <Pilot200hrWonder> Won't hurt that is for sure
[01:21] <usr13> Pilot200hrWonder:  sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[01:21] <luxgeek> DasEi: I do have paralell and just haven't been into unity in a very long time
[01:22] <luxgeek> Again...not sure which desktop mgr I'm using...I've forgotten how to check (been forced to use windows for a while and haven't touched this mach :/)
[01:23] <luxgeek> ok...logging to test new user
[01:23] <Pilot200hrWonder> Haha my last few linux machines where servers so I just used shell, I am such a rookie when it comes to Linux Desktop most anything
[01:24] <usr13> Pilot200hrWonder: Try  xfce  I'm pretty sure you'll like it.
[01:24] <DasEi> luxg... ah
[01:25] <usr13> xfce will be an improvement
[01:26] <arcangel_> holas
[01:26] <Pilot200hrWonder> I really just want this machine to run XBMC for my HTPC? my main machine is a Mac
[01:27] <arcangel_> hola hay alguien que hable español?
[01:27] <DasEi> !es
[01:28] <arcangel_> ok gracias
[01:28] <mkultra_> fer nada
[01:28] <luxgeek> Worked like a charm...whoever suggested creating a new user...now to copy settings :P
[01:28] <DasEi> luxgeek: probably gdm ( default), try sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm to check
[01:29] <luxgeek> Thx
[01:30] <luxgeek> nothing happened
[01:30] <mkultra_> ubuntu 12.04 runs really good for me now.  its  nice to upgrade, break tons of stuff and have it all sorted out in the end
[01:30] <DasEi> luxgeek: else can rsync the old homefolder to the new user and then chown it to the new one
[01:30] <luxgeek> DasEi: Seems more complicated than copying files as another suggested :P
[01:30] <ratcheer> mkultra_: I just clean reinstalled a few minutes ago.
[01:31] <mkultra_> did you make a seperate partiton for /home and /boot or use whole disk?
[01:31] <ratcheer> I already had the separate partitions.
[01:31] <DasEi> luxgeek: exatly that it does;; enter : cd /usr/share/xsessions/ && ls for info about your currently available ones
[01:31] <mkultra_> nice
[01:32] <mkultra_> i can format and be running strong in like 3 hours
[01:32] <mkultra_> symlink everything over to the os
[01:32] <jenesaispas> hello there
[01:32] <mkultra_> hi
[01:32] <i23> Trying to install quotas on my ubuntu server because I want to limit folder sizes in /home/, but when I do quotacheck it says this: quotacheck: Quota for users is enabled on mountpoint / so quotacheck might damage the file.
[01:32] <i23> Please turn quotas off or use -f to force checking.
[01:33] <NFisher> Hello Everybody! i just updated from 10.04 to 12.04.. now im pretty unhappy with the design.. i wanted to change those dark gnome-panels (using Gnome (Classic) into semi transperent whites just as i had it back in the days.. is that possible?!
[01:33] <luxgeek> DasEi: Ok...that shows me the list I pick from when logging in
[01:33] <NFisher> And id love to have back my old icon set.
[01:33] <Minibnz> hi guys i need a iittle help. trying to work out all the different ways that the screen can be rotated in lucid
[01:33] <mkultra_> nfisher, id turn on compiz + fusion icon
[01:33] <NFisher> And Human theme not this ugly dark one :(
[01:33] <mkultra_> do transparency through that
[01:34] <Minibnz> i know of two so far. that be xrandr and the GUI.. are there any other ways to do this/.
[01:34] <mkultra_> theres no light themes for gnome?  all i have are light themes for gnome
[01:34] <DasEi> luxgeek: so you know then
[01:34] <jenesaispas> I am running and testing ubuntu12.04 beta 2. Question: Will I be able to run the final LTS12.04 by simply updating, when the LTS comes out later in april?
[01:34] <ratcheer> jenesaispas: Yes
[01:34] <mkultra_> i think so jenesaispas
[01:34] <jenesaispas> thanks everyone
[01:34] <jenesaispas> :(
[01:35] <DasEi> !themes | mkultra_
[01:35] <jenesaispas> ops
[01:35] <jenesaispas> I meant smiley face, wrong layout sorry
[01:35] <DasEi> jenesaispas: yes
[01:35] <jenesaispas> thanks DasEi
[01:35] <jenesaispas> that s great news
[01:35] <mkultra_> where can i get engineering notation in fonts for showing ohm's and watts and beta and alpha symbols online?
[01:35] <luxgeek> DasEi: Right...that's the list of avail DT environs when i log in...but I need to RESET the one for the user I'm currently on...the new user I created was able to log in to a unity dt just fine...but aparently some settings are goofed for THIS user so I need to kinda either delete whatever files are holding those settings or something
[01:36] <Flannel> mkultra_: regular fonts have Omega, W, Beta, Alpha, etc.
[01:36] <DasEi> luxgeek: so either  reconfigure gdm from the old, borked user or rsync the old homefolder and own it to the new user
[01:36] <mkultra_> really?
[01:37] <NFisher> Is it possible to get semi-transparent gnome panels in ubuntu 12.04?
[01:37] <luxgeek> DasEi: I was actually wondering if I just deleted the diff .profile files if new ones would just get created?
[01:37] <sparky-> luxgeek, ls -a and delete the dot-directories
[01:37] <mkultra_> Ω
[01:37] <DasEi> NFisher: yes it is, it's somewhere in apperance
[01:37] <simononlaptop> Is it possible to update 11.10 to 12.04 through termianl yet
[01:38] <mkultra_> i dont think so simononlaptop
[01:38] <billy_ran_away> Anyone familiar with nfs4 kerberos autofs home directories? I read that there's a bug in Ubuntu with this, anyone have experience?
[01:38] <DasEi> simononlaptop: yes it is , see:
[01:38] <luxgeek> sparky-: Dang sparky, I dont want to delete ALL the dot dirs :P
[01:38] <trism> NFisher: alt+right click to edit the panels, also 12.04 support in #ubuntu+1 please
[01:38] <DasEi> !dist-upgrade
[01:38] <DasEi> !upgrade
[01:38] <luxgeek> sparky-: Just toe ones for the diff ubuntu desktop environs :P
[01:39] <luxgeek> * the
[01:39] <sparky-> they are all mixed in .config, .gnome, .gtk, etc
[01:39] <NFisher> trism, doenst work
[01:39] <simononlaptop> Thanks. That helps alot :)
[01:39] <trism> NFisher: sometimes you need to alt+super+right click (if you are using compiz)
[01:40] <NFisher> trism, doesnt either
[01:40] <luxgeek> My lxde environ works fine, it's just the various ubuntu desktops that are borked and ONLY on this user.
[01:40] <luxgeek> sparky-: Wouldn't that "break" other stuf too?
[01:41] <luxgeek> sparky-: I'm not trying to be argumentative in any way...just cautious :)
[01:41] <trism> NFisher: are you sure you're using gnome classic? if so make sure to click on an empty area of the panel
[01:41] <sparky-> nah, but you would lose customization :-)   nowadays I use chrome and my bookmarks and apps are in the cloud
[01:41] <luxgeek> sparky-: Ubuntu cloud?
[01:42] <sparky-> so deleting desktop dot-dirs don't bug me as much
[01:42] <simononlaptop> Ok this also has been bugging me, i always get errors with system v utilities updates
[01:42] <luxgeek> sparky-: I ask because I've use it myself...hadn't thought of putting those there.
[01:42] <NFisher> trism, ok thy had to deactivate annotation-feature in compiz-config... can you tell me where i can change the away from that dark theme?
[01:42] <NFisher> i wanted to use Human.
[01:42] <luxgeek> sparky-: How can I set it so those get syncd without having to export them first?
[01:42] <trism> NFisher: human hasn't been ported to gtk3 yet (at least not the one in the repo)
[01:43] <sparky-> chrome can now sync bookmarks on different computers if you log into google account
[01:44] <NFisher> trism, yeah, because since i wanted the panels to be transparent it looks very odd when the Application und User-Status Panel are still black
[01:45] <sparky-> luxgeek, so first you'd log into google acct on the machine with the most important bookmarks, sync to cloud, then you'd gloom on more bookmarks from other machines and overtime as you clean up, you'd have nice sync'd bookmarks
[01:45] <usr13> sparky-: That's nothing new, been doing that with foxmarks for years'
[01:46] <sparky-> usr13, right but this does not need extension and besides it's chrome :-).  I don't run Firefox anymore
[01:46] <sparky-> and it works on android too
[01:48] <luxgeek> sparky-: Except I use firefox :/
[01:48] <sparky-> :-)
[01:49] <luxgeek> sparky-: Also thought of something else...deleting all the dot dirs would kill my wine and my lxde stuff to wouldn't it?
[01:49] <luxgeek> sparky-: lkde customization stuff I mean
[01:49] <sparky-> yeah, it's the elephant gun when all else fails
[01:49] <luxgeek> * lxde
[01:50] <sparky-> bbl
[01:50] <luxgeek> sparky-: Well...then there should be a way to just kill the diff ubuntu session stuff I would think
[01:50] <luxgeek> sparky-: Or keep the lxde and wine stuff at least :P
[01:51] <luxgeek> sparky-: Nvm on the wine...I should be able to delete the rest except the .wine folder ...just need to figure out how to keep the lxde settings...
[01:52] <luxgeek> Anyone ELSE play/trying to play WoW in wine?
[01:52] <luxgeek> (diff issue :P)
[01:52] <usr13> sparky-: http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/How%20to%20sync%20Firefox%20settings%20between%20computers
[01:55] <usr13> luxgeek:       ^^^^^
[01:55] <luxgeek> sparky-: Well...that would be fine if I was syncing to a diff computer...dont seeing how t osync with a cloud tho
[01:55] <luxgeek> Still looking
[02:08] <luxgeek> sparky-: I'll just have to periodically export my bookmarks to my ubuntu one folder for cloud syncing :/
[02:09] <luxgeek> sparky-: As for deleting the dot folders...I need to find a way to preserve my lxde settings before I do that
[02:09] <sparky-> luxgeek: it can be time-consuming to clean your desktop files (reset them).  one thing you *could* do is to cheat a bit.  here's how.  make a new account.  a blank one.  log in.  see what files/dirs are created.  then you delete the same ones from the account you want to reset.  there's an idea :-)
[02:10] <luxgeek> sparky-: Well...just did that so what you're saying is compare the dirs to see what was created and delete the same in my other user?
[02:11] <luxgeek> sparky-: Or I just end up sucking it up and re-config lxde when I come back to it :/
[02:12] <sparky-> luxgeek: whichever is less time-consuming right?  i'd just suck it up and delete everything.  it's like spring cleaning ... good for the soul.
[02:12] <luxgeek> sparky-: Easy to say...harder to do :P
[02:14] <JBunny> hi everyone. im runnin 10.04 64 bit and cant get broadcom wireless drivers to install.
[02:15] <luxgeek> sparky-: Ok...going to relog (only deleted the ones that the new user created...we'll see)
[02:15] <TheyCallMeBruce> how can i send data back and forth between two scripts with a coprocess?
[02:17] <JBunny> it says please have a look at the log file for details.
[02:20] <luxgeek> sparky-: Well...that got unity working...wonder how borked my lxde will be :P
[02:22] <jamescarr> hey, since the last software updates I applied in 11.10 it broke my sound. Any clues as to how I can turn it back on?
[02:25] <jamescarr> I suppose the answer to my question is no :(
[02:25] <Pilot200hrWonder> What is theissue?
[02:25] <Pilot200hrWonder> No sound at all?
[02:26] <jamescarr> yep, no sound at all. it's worked for eons
[02:26] <jamescarr> since I did my last update, the sound was gone
[02:26] <Pilot200hrWonder> What sort of sound card do you have?
[02:26] <luxgeek> jamescarr: What sound drivers WERE you using?
[02:27] <jamescarr> Mobility RadeonHD 5000 Series
[02:28] <jamescarr> luxgeek, no idea... it worked out of the box
[02:29] <jamescarr> since 10.04
[02:29] <joosengee> hi
[02:29] <joosengee> everybody
[02:30] <Xgates_webchat> can someone tell me for laptop backlight adjustments with the F key, is Ubuntu making this happen with a mod from the kernel?
[02:31] <jamescarr> Failed to fetch http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/pool/main/g/google-chrome-stable/google-chrome-stable_17.0.963.83-r127885_amd64.deb 404  Not Found [IP: 74.125.225.101 80]
[02:31] <jamescarr> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/f/flashplugin-nonfree/flashplugin-installer_11.1.102.63ubuntu0.11.10.1_amd64.deb 404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.167 80]
[02:32] <sparky-> luxgeek: verdict?
[02:34] <Kuwanger> Does anyone here know of a good scripting language for prototyping/testing themes?
[02:34] <CarterL> Newb question. if all i'm going to do is use ubuntu for web dev purposes, how much disk space do i need for a partition?  would 12 gigs be enough?
[02:35] <Pilot200hrWonder> Depends on the size of your webpage?
[02:35] <CarterL> hehe
[02:35] <thesheff17> 12 gigs is plenty
[02:35] <Pilot200hrWonder> Are you talking the entire system?
[02:35] <tjz> hey guys
[02:35] <Pilot200hrWonder> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[02:35] <CarterL> Pilot200hrWonder: the entire system and a dev db which would be in the 10's of megs i'm guessing
[02:36] <Pilot200hrWonder> Recomends 15Gig
[02:36] <CarterL> ok cool, thanks
[02:36] <CarterL> last time i used linux my kernel was 2.0.36
[02:37] <CarterL> idk how i recall that
[02:38] <mkultra_> βits come a long way since
[02:38] <CarterL> can imagine
[02:38] <CarterL> thanks for the help
[02:39] <Pants> Hi there
[02:39] <scott_z> I need to install glib atleast version 2.14.0 but do not know how. any ideas?
[02:39] <trism> scott_z: if you are compiling, libglib2.0-dev
[02:40] <Guest33146> Earlier today i tried to install linux mint 9 on a friend computer
[02:40] <Guest33146> when i tried to update all hell broke loose
[02:40] <Guest33146> i guess it was because the iso was out of date (it has not been updated since release)
[02:41] <Guest33146> I am downloading ubuntu 10.04.4; so my question is. Is that iso updated; does it allows me to do a complete dist-update without problems?
[02:42] <Guest33146> He has an old computer, so Unity would run kind of slow (He already has 10.10 installed in other computer)
[02:43] <Onixs> i would rather use 11.10 and compile the kerne with a slow computer in mind
[02:43] <bazhang> !dist-upgrade | Guest31981
[02:44] <Guest31981> well that was a typo
[02:44] <bazhang> Guest31981, dist-upgrade is not a version upgrade
[02:44] <Guest31981> but, the problem is that when i tried to dist-upgrade the mint 9 all hell broke loose
[02:44] <Guest31981> and i am not that experienced to fix it be myself
[02:44] <mkultra_> yeah do it from iso
[02:45] <Guest31981> i am expecting that the 10.4.4 will go out smoother
[02:45] <bazhang> Guest31981, we dont support mint here, not sure why you are mentioning mint
[02:45] <Guest31981> because mint 9 is based on ubuntu 10.04
[02:45] <mkultra_> make a /boot and /home and / partition
[02:45] <Guest31981> it would be similar to make a complete dist-updgrade from a 10.04.0 iso
[02:46] <bazhang> Guest31981, again dist-upgrade does NOT mean version upgrade
[02:46] <Guest31981> yes i know
[02:46] <Guest31981> (english is not my first language)
[02:47] <alteredud> so whats your first language? gaelic?
[02:47] <Guest31981> mmmm, spanish
[02:47] <alteredud> spanglish
[02:47] <alteredud> ok
[02:47] <bazhang> !ot | alteredud
[02:47] <savid> Has anyone had any issues with fglrx causing a kernel panic on shutdown or when unloading the module?
[02:49] <Guest31981> in other words, i just want to know if the 10.0.4.4 iso comes with some of the updates preinstalled (so the dist-upgrade would go smoother)
[02:50] <bazhang> Guest31981, a point release would start out up to date, so there would be no dist-upgrade
[02:50] <maindotc> I'm trying to grep an expression using -w, but the expression "host" is matching "host-something".  Is there a way to limit this or tell grep to stop at a delimiter ?
[02:52] <denysonique> hey
[02:52] <zruty> How to file a bug report without knowing which package is causing the misery?
[02:53] <denysonique> Hey, please let me know, what do you think about my small simple app:
[02:53] <denysonique> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d53FdCEVplI&feature=youtu.be
[02:53] <denysonique> --  16 second video
[02:53] <denysonique> demonstrates a simple app which I have written in Ruby -- It takes a screenshot and immediately uploads it to a server. Share your screen easily and convenientl
[02:53] <FloodBot1> denysonique: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:53] <denysonique> I am planning to make a ppa for it
[02:54] <NFisher> HI everybody! I just created a Start-up-USB-Stick within Ubuntu 12.04 Beta2 using the given Start-Disk creator. I want to creeate a bootable version of Ubuntu 10.04 LTS. Now as the creator finished, and i tried to boot from the USB-Stick the following Error occurred (i created it 2 times by now, same error): "Unknown keyword in configuration file: gfxboot ; vesamenu.c32: not a COM32R image ; boot:" what do i do?!?
[02:54] <bazhang> NFisher, #ubuntu+1 for that please
[02:54] <NFisher> bazhang, but its 10.04.04 LTS?!
[02:54] <NFisher> 10.04.4*
[02:55] <denysonique> hmm
[02:55] <bazhang> NFisher, within 12.04 I thought your message said
[02:55] <denysonique> looks like syslinux unable to find an image
[02:55] <denysonique> corrupt USB disk?
[02:55] <NFisher> bazhang, yah, im not sure if 12.04 is the prob...
[02:55] <denysonique> is there a way to checksum test it?
[02:56] <bazhang> NFisher, the startup disk creator is from 12.04?
[02:56] <NFisher> bazhang, yes
[02:57] <bazhang> NFisher, that'd be #ubuntu+1 for support and discussion then
[02:57] <NFisher> bazhang, ok, thx!
[02:57] <bazhang> denysonique, did you need help with creating a ppa or something?
[02:57] <denysonique> bazhang: yes, I might probably need
[02:57] <Nach0z> hey guys, does anyone know if there's a Linux equivalent to Windows's overclocking softwares?
[02:58] <bazhang> denysonique, whats the issue
[02:58] <bazhang> !equivalents | Nach0z check here
[02:59] <Nach0z> there's nothing about overclocking on either >_>
[02:59] <bazhang> denysonique, have you read the packaging guide?
[02:59] <denysonique> bazhang: I am going to read the guide. If I have any problems, I can ask in this channel, right?
[03:00] <bazhang> denysonique, about packaging? sure, though the packaging people would probably be more helpful in this regard
[03:00] <E3D3> I'm upgrading from 10.04 to new Beta and wonder why downloading goes slower when I'm watching it ;-)
[03:00] <denysonique> bazhang: what do you think about my software btw?
[03:02] <maindotc> E3D3: 10.04 has a few known latency bugs - it depends heavily on the type of network card you have
[03:04] <E3D3> maindotc: Thanks, its just that I have little patience and really looking forward to it. Everything seems still okay. Sorry to confuse you.
[03:04] <maindotc> E3D3 you have no right to make accusations I'm not confused thank you very much
[03:05] <E3D3> :-)
[03:05] <mkultra_> yeah 10.04 is derelict, try 12.04 beta, report bugzzz
[03:12] <E3D3> The world needs bugs, bunnies and Ubuntu.
[03:12] <DasEi> !visudo | lesshaste
[03:13] <newlikegr> hi all
[03:13] <DasEi> lesshaste: the new user then needs to be in the sudoers file, you can achive it by visudo command
[03:14] <lesshaste> I don't just add the user to the admin group?
[03:14] <Braden`> Hello
[03:14] <Braden`> How do I test whether apparmor is enabled?
[03:14] <sparky-> lesshaste: you could, but it's not magic.  read /etc/sudoers to see why "admin" works
[03:15] <lesshaste> sparky-, I just read it .. it didn't seem very helpful
[03:16] <qngo> Braden`: service apparmor status   ?
[03:16] <newlikegr> test
[03:17] <Braden`> How do I add an exception for mysqld?
[03:17] <sparky-> lesshaste: your file doesn't have the comment "members of the admin group ..."?
[03:18] <DasEi> lesshaste: or read man visudo
[03:18] <the> emmm.. Mr. witch is the channel in spanish?
[03:18] <DasEi> !es
[03:18] <the> thanks!
[03:19] <rinzler> how do i use apt-get to manipulate the files that were held back in upgrade?
[03:20] <lesshaste> sparky-, why not just do sudo adduser <username> admin?
[03:20] <lesshaste> sparky-, yes it has # Members of the admin group may gain root privileges
[03:20] <lesshaste> %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL
[03:20] <lesshaste> sparky-, but what does that mean for me?
[03:21] <DasEi> rinzler: first do a upgrade, too, and unless kernel (reboot required there) can try sudpt-get dist-upgrade
[03:21] <DasEi> sudo apt-get...*
[03:21] <rinzler> DasEi: thanks
[03:22] <sparky-> lesshaste: that explains the mechanism why adding users to admin group allows them to sudo to get root privileges
[03:22] <sparky-> lesshaste: yes, of course you would add users to admin group to give them ability to sudo.  but, wouldn't you like to know why that works?  :-)
[03:22] <lesshaste> sparky-, why not just use the adduser command
[03:23] <DasEi> lesshaste: you can do it manually, but visudo is there for some reasons and brings you there directly
[03:23] <lesshaste> sparky-, I still don't know as the line seems commented out to me
[03:23] <waynewang> how can i see a film with mplayer online ?
[03:23] <lesshaste> waynewang, you mean it is a stream?
[03:23] <sparky-> lesshaste: no it's not.  %admin means "admin unix group"
[03:23] <lesshaste> sparky-, ok!
[03:23] <lesshaste> that was unclear!
[03:23] <waynewang> yes
[03:24] <lesshaste> waynewang, have you tried just doing mplayer url ?
[03:24] <sparky-> lesshaste: in the future if you want to do something similar to admin, let's say, "junior admins", you can add similar mechanism to sudoers file
[03:24] <lesshaste> waynewang, can you give the link in pm?
[03:25] <lesshaste> waynewang, let's go over to #mplayer
[03:30] <cipher6> hi
[03:30] <urbancommando> hello
[03:31] <cipher6> how can i check my ip in xchat
[03:32] <Wildbat> [Q]: how to have gnome pop up and show shutdown message if shutdown command have been issued?
[03:32] <karant> join #resolvedigital
[03:35] <goddard> anyone else have adobe flash color issues since the update?
[03:35] <sparky-> who doesn't have flash issues of some kind?
[03:35] <the> emm.. hello I have a pubroblem with my spekers on ubuntu 10.4 , maybe my problem are the drivers, what do you think
[03:37] <sacarlson> the: if you think it's a driver problem you might download a later version of ubuntu like 11.10 run in try mode and see if it displays the same problem
[03:38] <webnet> anyone know how to edit the background colors of the ubuntu text plymouth theme
[03:38] <sacarlson> the: I would also check the values seen in lspci;  or sudo lshw ; and see if anyone else has problems with your hardware
[03:38] <the> but if it wasn't the problem?
[03:39] <the> ok
[03:39] <sacarlson> the: mixer problem?
[03:39] <the> i don't know
[03:39] <the> maybe
[03:39] <urbancommando> how to i reset my password ?  nickserv?
[03:40] <warcow1992> hello
[03:40] <bazhang> urbancommando, /join #freenode for that
[03:40] <warcow1992> hi
[03:41] <warcow1992> hello !
[03:41] <bazhang> warcow1992, ubuntu support issue?
[03:41] <warcow1992> first how to i wisper back ?
[03:42] <the> it detect my hardware
[03:42] <goddard> sparky-: everything was fine for me before the update
[03:42] <bazhang> warcow1992, this is ubuntu support; did you have an ubuntu support question?
[03:42] <warcow1992> yep
[03:42] <goddard> now all my youtube videos have color inversion
[03:42] <sacarlson> the: did you try gnome-alsa-mixer ?
[03:42] <bazhang> warcow1992, then ask
[03:43] <the> ok
[03:43] <the> let me see
[03:43] <warcow1992> how do i reformat my hard drive
[03:44] <the> it isn't instaled, i need install?
[03:44] <bazhang> warcow1992, using gparted live cd or an ubuntu live cd
[03:44] <sacarlson> the: yes it's optional, need to install it
[03:44] <warcow1992> im useing the usb right now
[03:44] <the> ok
[03:44] <warcow1992> i tryed installing it erliar but its not booting
[03:45] <warcow1992> i want to make sure it is a clean install
[03:45] <warcow1992> i had kubuntu on it befor i installed ubuntu
[03:46] <sacarlson> warcow1992: or if it's a partition not already mounted or can be umounted without effecting your present system you can use gparted or disk utility to format from there
[03:46] <E3D3> How precise can pangolins dream lucid during the day ?
[03:46] <warcow1992> the disk utility tells me an error stoped it from formating the disk
[03:47] <the> mr. sacarlson it's alredy instaled, what am I going to do??
[03:47] <sacarlson> warcow1992: disk utility also has some scan test or other
[03:47] <sacarlson> the: run it and crank all of the nobes to full blast
[03:48] <the> all at full??
[03:48] <sacarlson> the: make sure none of the mute boxes are checked
[03:48] <warcow1992> in the details it says helper exited with exit code 1
[03:48] <sacarlson> the: ya the bigger number = full
[03:49] <the> number?? i see master, PCM and Capture, whits one ?
[03:49] <sacarlson> warcow1992: what does the S.M.A.R.T  results show in the disk utility  and run that also
[03:50] <sacarlson> warcow1992: so disk utility can't run at all?
[03:50] <onoez_omg> i'm experiencing problems with hostapd, it worked with the same config on 11.10 but refuses to start at 12.04, should i compile hostapd manually? is it a bug?
[03:50] <onoez_omg> http://pastebin.com/fxraawu1
[03:50] <warcow1992> nope
[03:50] <the> mr.?
[03:50] <bazhang> onoez_omg, #ubuntu+1 for that
[03:50] <onoez_omg> thx
[03:51] <sacarlson> onoez_omg: from that error I'm guessing your wifi driver doesn't support master mode
[03:52] <onoez_omg> sacarlson, it works with the same modules as on 11.04 how comes it stopped supporting master mode, what error messages push u to such conclusion?
[03:53] <sacarlson> onoez_omg: you should be able to verify manualy if you can put the device in master mode,  I'm just guessing from what I see
[03:54] <sacarlson> onoez_omg: I had the same problem with my raylink driver in 2008 it had master mode now today in 2012 it no longer does
[03:55] <tintoy> hi hello, anybody helps, why am I receiving winmail.dat attachment?
[03:55] <tintoy> i'm using evolution (e-mail client)
[03:55] <onoez_omg> sacarlson, the only thing that differs now is that i upgraded to 12.04 from 11.10, it was working flawlessly before, it switches to master mode by hostapd and can't be switched to it manually (at least i don't know the proper way to do that)
[03:55] <warcow1992> how do i reformat a hard drive in the terminal?
[03:56] <Ben64> onoez_omg: 12.04 support is in #ubuntu+1
[03:56] <sacarlson> onoez_omg: so run the old kernel in 12.04 then
[03:56] <Wingede> tintoy, the email most likely originated from a microsoft outlook client, sending emails in rtf, non outlook clients usually end up with the winmail.dat
[03:56] <onoez_omg> Ben64, thanks, i already know, but sacarlson probably have some tips, is it restricted to talk about 12.04 here completely?
[03:57] <sacarlson> onoez_omg: if you don't know how to put it in master mode doesn't mean it can't be
[03:57] <Ben64> depends on if an angry op sees you or not
[03:58] <sacarlson> onoez_omg: if they have any complaints you can PM to continue but then I'll miss helping others here
[03:58] <tintoy> Wingede: thanks for that info!
[03:58] <mkultra_> its not restricted to talk about 12.04 but if your gonna do it alot do it in #ubuntu+1
[03:58] <onoez_omg> mkultra_, i'm trying with no luck
[03:58] <Wingede> tintoy, welcome
[03:59] <Ben64> less than a month till it will be in this channel
[04:00] <the> sacarlson, i was install ubuntu 11.10 but I did formart to my hard disc, and runing on 11.10, my speackers was use
[04:00] <the> sorry if I had a problem with my sintaxis
[04:00] <the> I don't speack english weell
[04:00] <upset> Unmounting your hard drive while you're still using it is a bad thing, right?
[04:00] <sacarlson> the: you should have just tried the livecd and seen if you speakers work in it before you installed it
[04:00] <anthropos> linux wont let you unmount it if it's in use
[04:00] <anthropos> upset,
[04:01] <upset> anthropos: Right. So if I wanted to add a partition, I should do it with, say, a live usb of GParted?
[04:01] <sacarlson> the: sorry I only speak thai and english
[04:01] <Ben64> upset: that should work
[04:02] <upset> Ben64: Awesome. Thanks y'all
[04:02] <the> it's a little difucult of explaint I had some troblues with my past OS
[04:02] <Wingede> tintoy, there was a plugin for evolution a wee while back, called TNEF - not sure if it still exists but enabling the plugin in evolution allowed you to view
[04:02] <anthropos> upset, define add a partition. you mean resize an existing one?
[04:02] <the> and i was instaled ubuntu 11.10
[04:02] <the> and I back to ubuntu 10.4
[04:02] <tintoy> Wngede: Very nice info!
[04:03] <tintoy> Wngede:i'll try it
[04:03] <almoxarife> the, the speakers work on 10.4?
[04:03] <sacarlson> the: ok but did sound work in 11.10 other than your other problems?
[04:03] <Wingede> !tnef
[04:04] <the> almox, it doesn't
[04:04] <almoxarife> the.... , have the speakers worked with linux(any distro) ?
[04:04] <the> my main problem is my speackers
[04:04] <sacarlson> the: did you research your sound device from results in lspci ; to see if other had problems with it?
[04:05] <sacarlson> the: oh the sound comes out the headphones?
[04:05] <the> sarcar, lspci detect my speacker
[04:05] <sacarlson> the: detect is not always working
[04:05] <the> my headphones are used
[04:06] <bazhang> the pci speakers?
[04:06] <sacarlson> the: headphones are used so they work?
[04:06] <the> almox.. it works on ubuntu 11.10 but I'm on ubuntu 10.4
[04:06] <the> sarca,, yes it works
[04:07] <sacarlson> the: then plug you speaker amp into the headphone jack,  game over done deal
[04:07] <urbancommando> lol
[04:07] <bazhang> !tab | the
[04:07] <almoxarife> its over?
[04:07] <almoxarife> dammit, I just got here
[04:07] <the> ubottu, thanks
[04:08] <Wingede> ubottu is too cool to be a bot i thinks
[04:08] <the> sacarlson, my headphones works
[04:08] <urbancommando> lol
[04:09] <bazhang> urbancommando, please stop that
[04:09] <almoxarife> the....   , may I also suggest you pick a new nick, something with more than three letters and unique
[04:10] <sacarlson> the: almoxarife: I've seen this before on some laptops the headphone works but speakers don't,  I thought I saw a setting in gnome-alsa-mixer to activate the spearkes
[04:10] <sacarlson> speakers
[04:10] <the> almoxarife, I keep in mind
[04:11] <the> sacarlson, but it doesn't work
[04:11] <almoxarife> sacarlson: its odd for the speakers not to work, I would think that would have been figured out long ago
[04:12] <bazhang> the pastebin the output of lspci
[04:12] <sacarlson> the: it looks like in gnome-alsa-mixer that the headphones are checked by default,  did you try uncheck that to see if the speakers come on?
[04:12] <bazhang> !paste | the
[04:12] <onoez_omg> sacarlson, i was trying to say that after some point, due to changes in some mechanisms, it should be set to master mode like this `iw phy phy0 interface add wlan0 type master` but iw stops saying that i have "... to run a management daemon, e.g. hostapd ..."
[04:12] <pmp6nl> Hello all, for the life of me I cannot get two computers on my home network to sync files.  It simply wont work.  I am trying ssh, putty connects fine up unison is giving me issues. Any ideas? Thanks
[04:12] <onoez_omg> so it was switching flawlessly at 11.10
[04:13] <sacarlson> onoez_omg: you can play with it manualy with  sudo iwconfig;   try man iwconfig to see if you can put it in master mode
[04:14] <onoez_omg> now hostapd fails to launch, but i'm not sharing ur opinion on the root of problem
[04:14] <onoez_omg> sacarlson, iwconfig is no longer designed to switch it to master mode
[04:14] <onoez_omg> soz 4 my english btw (if matters)
[04:14] <anelyze> hello
[04:14] <the> so.. i realy don't understan xD, I'm a little confuse
[04:14] <sacarlson> onoez_omg: that means the driver is no longer supporting master mode
[04:14] <the> do i post it in ubuntu page?
[04:14] <bazhang> the    paste.ubuntu.com the output from terminal lspci
[04:14] <onoez_omg> sacarlson, no it doesnt mean that, because it was the same way at 11.10
[04:15] <onoez_omg> because it is the same driver
[04:15] <CFHowlett> anelyze   greetings
[04:15] <sacarlson> the: I think it's a mixer setting try all the check boxes and it will probly work
[04:15] <anelyze> Greetings
[04:15] <onoez_omg> and personally i can't see still what makes u think that there is something wrong with rt2860 driver
[04:16] <the> guess what I going to ubuntu 11.10 there it works
[04:16] <sacarlson> onoez_omg: oh I'm not sure then,  maybe hostapd doesn't need master mode?  adhoc might work
[04:16] <Raliegh> Hello there. I need help coding some sort of program to run a single Ubuntu command (init.d script). Anyone have any pointers?
[04:16] <Raliegh> Oh, the program needs to be run on Windows.
[04:16] <onoez_omg> error messages make me think that there is something wrong with hostapd
[04:16] <almoxarife> the.... install 11.10 with the 'alternate' iso
[04:17] <Wingede> pmp6nl,  if you can ping each box from one another ok I would check if there is no firewall stopping things - at least that will eliminate networking
[04:17] <the> almoxarife, I going to do that
[04:18] <almoxarife> the... and the nick?
[04:18] <almoxarife> please the.......daadda
[04:18] <sacarlson> onoez_omg: I hope you looked at this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/MasterMode
[04:18] <pmp6nl> Wingede, thanks for the tip, i can ping each box
[04:18] <the> almoxarife, what??
[04:18] <onoez_omg> sacarlson, i'm familiar with described things
[04:18] <anelyze> Rawr
[04:18] <sacarlson> onoez_omg: and you see "AP" in that list then?
[04:19] <bazhang> anelyze, ubuntu support question?
[04:19] <almoxarife> the... noticed that tab complete worked with my nick??? try that with yours
[04:19] <onoez_omg> sacarlson, iw shows it supports ap mode obviously
[04:19] <Wingede> pmp6nl, any firewalls enabled on the boxes?
[04:19] <sacarlson> onoez_omg: ok sounds like it's not the driver then the new bug must be in hostap,  time to backup to 11.10
[04:19] <pmp6nl> Wingede, IDK, whats the best way to check?
[04:20] <sacarlson> onoez_omg: or just write your own script to setup an access point, it's not that hard
[04:20] <Wingede> pmp6nl, at consoles sudo iptables -L
[04:21] <the> almoxarife, could you please explein me that?? I really don't undestand
[04:21] <onoez_omg> the sad thing is that ubuntu channel +1 is dead :/
[04:21] <onoez_omg> i can't figure out if i should to write bug report
[04:21] <the> onoez_omg, dude the sad thing is the channel in spanishn doný work
[04:22] <almoxarife> the.........., nothing, nevermind, all is good
[04:22] <Wingede> pmp6nl, 3 chains - if they are all are accept it pretty much rules firewalls out also
[04:22] <onoez_omg> the, i don't speak spanish
[04:22] <pmp6nl> Wingede, that is what they say
[04:23] <pmp6nl> Wingede, its odd that putty works but I cannot ssh in via terminal or use rsync
[04:23] <sacarlson> onoez_omg: something like this (but this looks old) you can setup shareing https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing
[04:23] <the> onoez_omg, i do, and it's a little dicult to me this
[04:23] <Xgates> hey guys
[04:23] <almoxarife> what is used to collect data from an .inf file to create a driver?
[04:23] <onoez_omg> the, how can i help u?
[04:24] <CFHowlett> Xgates   greetings
[04:24] <sacarlson> the: google has some cool translation,  best research how to use it
[04:24] <Wingede> pmp6nl, im not familiar with unison, but assuming from your comments the sync is done over ssh ?
[04:24] <Xgates> can someone tell me if any of the modules that get loaded at run time have anything to do with making the backlight brightness work for a laptop with the F keys? In Ubuntu they work for a Dell 15R but in another distro that I'd like to also run they don
[04:24] <the> sacarlson, google tranlate  sucks!
[04:24] <Xgates> don't...
[04:25] <the> onoez_omg,  you can do nothing
[04:25] <pmp6nl> Wingede, yes, I am trying anyway.  I dont care how they sync, I just want them to sync over the network
[04:25] <Xgates> So i'm trying to figure out how Ubuntu controls the backlight F key adjustements in Ubuntu...
[04:25] <sacarlson> the: so you don't know what  a checkbox is in a gui ?
[04:25] <CFHowlett> Xgates   probably via hardware specific plugins.  At least that's what my dell 1545 shows...
[04:25] <Wingede> pmp6nl, perhaps http://www.howtoforge.com/setting-up-unison-file-synchronization-between-two-servers-on-ubuntu-11.10 can help
[04:26] <almoxarife> sacarlson: I am actually impressed with google translation, I have not figured out if they are doing literal or have little google-gnomes in the back doing long hand translation. btw, that would be the job I would quit to work in a salt mine, god I hated translating
[04:26] <CFHowlett> Xgates   try this in a terminal: locate dell
[04:26] <Xgates> CFHowlett: what you mean software/firmware that Ubuntu installs?
[04:26] <pmp6nl> Wingede, humm I tried some of that but no dice.  I think the underlying problem is not being able to ssh in via terminal... isnt that odd?
[04:26] <the> sacarlson, what is that?
[04:27] <CFHowlett> Xgates   dell firmware via ubuntu
[04:27] <Xgates> CFHowlett: I'm not on Ubuntu at the moment
[04:27] <Xgates> CFHowlett: could you show me the name of the package?
[04:27] <almoxarife> what is used to collect data from an .inf file to create a driver?
[04:28] <the> almoxarife, i think the same i hate translate to
[04:28] <Wingede> pmp6nl, is ssh installed?
[04:28] <pmp6nl> Wingede, yes it is, on both
[04:28] <sacarlson> the: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Checkbox
[04:28] <CFHowlett> Xgates   ignore the obvious music listings http://paste.ubuntu.com/906653/
[04:28] <almoxarife> the.... get chromium-browser , it translates web pages, sweet?
[04:29] <Wingede> pmp6nl, are you trying to ssh using root as username?
[04:29] <the> yes chrome too, but it has many problems
[04:29] <Xgates> CFHowlett: I need to know the package name so I can look it up online to see if I can get the source, etc...
[04:29] <pmp6nl> Wingede,  no, the reg user name.
[04:29] <almoxarife> the.... chrome has problems?
[04:29] <goddard> how can i organize mailing list messages in thunderbird?
[04:30] <pmp6nl> Wingede, thanks for your help, I will look throught that link.  I gotta go now.  I appreciate your help
[04:30] <Wingede> pmp6nl, good luck
[04:30] <pmp6nl> Wingede, thanks
[04:30] <the> almoxarife, with translate
[04:31] <CFHowlett> xgates see the dell recovery media creator ...
[04:31] <the> sacarlson, I man i really don't know what you mean
[04:31] <sacarlson> the: you have to learn one thing at a time first thing to learn today is checkbox
[04:31] <CFHowlett> :)
[04:32] <the> sacarlson, ok let me see somethink in spanish
[04:32] <Xgates> CFHowlett: what does the Dell receovery have to do with Backlight for a laptop?
[04:32] <CFHowlett> Xgates   the dell firmware packages control media keys like lighting, music, etc
[04:33] <Xgates> CFHowlett: ok, so can't you please look in Synaptic do a search for Dell and tell me if you see the actual package name?
[04:33] <Raliegh> So again, does anyone know what I need to do to make a script that can be run on a Windows PC that runs an init.d script on my Ubuntu server?
[04:34] <sacarlson> Xgates: on your other question to find what package a file comes from http://www.ubuntugeek.com/what-package-is-that-file-in.html
[04:34] <the> sacarlson, LOL i allredy understand, but what you mean?? i don't know what do you say
[04:35] <Ben64> Raliegh: open up putty and run the script?
[04:35] <CFHowlett> Xgates   see i8kutils firmware-addon-dell
[04:35] <onoez_omg> fixed, an issue with reading configuration files
[04:35] <Xgates> sacarlson: I'm not on or running Ubuntu
[04:35] <Xgates> hehe
[04:36] <Xgates> CFHowlett: what's i8kutils part of the name?
[04:36] <sacarlson> the: ok next thing to learn GUI  or graphical user interface http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphical_user_interface
[04:36] <CFHowlett> Xgates   2 dell pacakges: i8kutils and firmware-addon-dell
[04:36] <Xgates> ok thanks
[04:36] <CFHowlett> Xgates   good luck
[04:37] <the> sacarlson, I undeetand that
[04:37] <Raliegh> Ben64: I need a script to automatically do that. It's to reset my shoutcast services when they need to remotely, without them having remote access and shit.
[04:38] <Ben64> Raliegh: why do it from windows
[04:38] <Raliegh> Because most of my clients RUN windows...
[04:38] <the> I miss my windows
[04:38] <Xgates> CFHowlett: Don't see like this is just source out there, seems to be Ubuntu specfic?
[04:38] <sacarlson> the: the gui application called gnome-alsa-mixer ;   checkbox>headphones> uncheck ;
[04:39] <Raliegh> Ben64: Missed highlight, lol.
[04:39] <CFHowlett> Xgates   could be, IDK the details
[04:39] <Xgates> k
[04:39] <sacarlson> the: or should the next leason be what is application?
[04:39] <Ben64> Raliegh: that doesn't make sense
[04:39] <the> sacarlson, man you are a god, I understant all
[04:40] <sacarlson> the: see google translators do work
[04:40] <Raliegh> Ben64: It makes... Perfect sense... Lol. My clients need a script to double click or whatever that restarts a service on my Ubuntu server. How does that not make sense?
[04:40] <the> sacarlson, google translate don't work
[04:40] <Ben64> Raliegh: letting clients restart a service doesn't make sense
[04:41] <imbezol> Raliegh: there are command line ssh clients for windows.. you could make a script that runs ssh and connects to the server and runs a script there
[04:41] <imbezol> Raliegh: alternatively, if the servers are running a web interface, you could make a small web script that restarts it
[04:41] <Ben64> that sounds like the best option ^
[04:41] <imbezol> Raliegh: then they could just hit the webpage on their server and restart
[04:41] <Raliegh> Why doesn't it? It makes perfect sense, there are multiple shoutcast servers on my server, and everyone who owns one of those servers needs a way to reset the service if it crashes or something. Imbezol, there's no web protocol, but do you have documentation on the SSH scripting? What language is it? I assume Batch.
[04:41] <Ben64> giving everyone ssh access is a bad idea™
[04:42] <Raliegh> I'll of course obfuscate it somehow.
[04:42] <Raliegh> And of course they're on a limited user login.
[04:42] <sacarlson> the: google is god we are just pawns
[04:43] <imbezol> Raliegh: you could do something like give their user sudo access to run the specific command.. like "sudo /etc/init.d/someservice restart"
[04:43] <the> sacarlson, on alsamixer i don't see  checkbox  who say that
[04:43] <imbezol> Raliegh: then just write a small batch file they can use on windows
[04:43] <Raliegh> Exactly, that's what I need to do imbezol.
[04:43] <Xgates> CFHowlett: ok found one i8kutils_1.33.tar.gz what version is Ubuntu running?
[04:43] <Raliegh> But I'm not entirely sure where to find docs on how to create this batch file or anything.
[04:43] <sacarlson> the: that's not the name of the application I gave you
[04:43] <Ben64> web interface would be much more secure
[04:43] <CFHowlett> Xgates   I've got it on 10.04
[04:43] <the> sacarlson, google it's a god the probleam here is google tranlate
[04:44] <Raliegh> True Ben, but I don't know how create a web interface to run a command on my server either. If it's easy though I would prefer that route. Is it possible in PHP or something?
[04:44] <imbezol> Raliegh: i'd probably just look at turning on the web interface. it would save you from telling your users how to get the components to make a batch script work
[04:44] <Xgates> I found this for Natty; https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/i8kutils/1.33
[04:44] <imbezol> Raliegh: then you just support the server, not the client machines
[04:44] <imbezol> Raliegh: but that's just me
[04:44] <imbezol> Raliegh: probably a hundred ways to solve that problem. all of them are going to require some know-how
[04:45] <imbezol> Raliegh: or some money to get someone to solve it for you :)
[04:45] <CFHowlett> Xgates   same version shows up in apt-cache policy
[04:45] <Raliegh> There's a web interface for the stream imbezol, an admin login and everything, but nothing that can restart the service/program.
[04:45] <Xgates> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/i8kutils
[04:45] <the> sacarlson, which one did you give me
[04:45] <the> ?
[04:45] <imbezol> Raliegh: yeah.. you'd have to write a script.. perl cgi, or php, or something of the sorts
[04:46] <Danko8321> hello
[04:46] <CFHowlett> Danko8321   greetings
[04:46] <Danko8321> A bit of help with Linux virtual machines?
[04:46] <CFHowlett> Danko8321   ask away
[04:46] <cc11rocks_> VirtualBox Guest additions question...
[04:46] <Danko8321> Yes
[04:46] <Danko8321> Indee
[04:46] <Danko8321> *Indeed
[04:47] <Danko8321> I have been having problems installing Linux Guest additions
[04:47] <Danko8321> Ubuntu, OpenSUSE, Fedora
[04:47] <Danko8321> None of them work
[04:47] <Raliegh> Well thanks for the help imbezol. I'll be poking around. ^^
[04:48] <Danko8321> It doesn't give any kind of error message
[04:48] <zeta-> Celestia has been segfaulting for ages
[04:48] <zeta-> Just been trying to compile from source but I get;-
[04:48] <zeta-> ../celengine/libcelengine.a(libcelengine_a-glext.o): undefined reference to symbol 'dlopen@@GLIBC_2.1'
[04:48] <zeta-> Has GLIBC upgraded and broken Celestia?
[04:48] <the> sacarlson, which?
[04:48] <Danko8321> It just gives back the prompt in about a second
[04:48] <Danko8321> And if I use a graphical tool it opens a terminal and just closes it back again
[04:49] <CFHowlett> Danko8321   did you follow the instruction for installing Guest Additions?
[04:49] <Danko8321> Yes
[04:49] <Danko8321> Or at least I think so
[04:49] <Danko8321> I have managed to do it in a couple of Windows installs
[04:49] <sacarlson> the: I guess we have to backup and teach you what an application name is
[04:49] <Danko8321> And I did it once in a Ubuntu setup
[04:49] <Danko8321> But the Ubuntu setup dyed
[04:49] <Danko8321> *died
[04:49] <CFHowlett> Danko8321   what is your host?
[04:50] <Danko8321> LinuxMint 12
[04:50] <the> sacarlson, jhaaaa only give me the mane
[04:50] <the> **name
[04:50] <CFHowlett> Danko8321   you really need to take this over to the mint channel.  Sorry, we don't support it here.
[04:50] <CFHowlett> Danko8321
[04:50] <Danko8321> Seriously?
[04:50] <CFHowlett> !mint|Danko8321
[04:51] <Danko8321> Well thanks a lot
[04:51] <sacarlson> the: you da mane
[04:51] <cc11rocks_> Could you guys at least try?
[04:51] <CFHowlett> cc11rocks_   try what?
[04:51] <cc11rocks_> *for Danko8321?
[04:51] <anthropos> linux mint has a channel of its own
[04:51] <CFHowlett> cc11rocks_   and the BEST place to get help with mint is from mint.
[04:51] <anthropos> it's more logical to ask there for a variety of reasons, not the least of which is, that you want help from people who know your distribution
[04:51] <cc11rocks_> I understand the delima...about the non-supported OS, but yeah...
[04:53] <the> sacarlson, man are you kidding?? i have trobles typing
[04:54] <sacarlson> the: another thing to learn is how to scroll  or scrolling in the IRC to look back at what was already typed before http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scrolling
[04:54] <sacarlson> the: yes so do I so I don't like to retype
[04:55] <the> sacarlson, no mames
[04:57] <sacarlson> the: the application name = http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=gnome-alsamixer
[04:57] <the> sacarlson, google translate "no mames"?
[04:58] <sacarlson> the: cool you created a new language called the:
 Could anyone tell me if Ubuntu-panel is a fork from Ubuntu?
 or just Gnome-fallback or classic
 and if in the next LTS will be removed
[04:58] <bazhang> sacarlson, you probably mean packages.ubuntu.com
[04:58] <the> sacarlson,  man it's spanish
[04:59] <bazhang> gnome2 gnome-panel? its not
[04:59] <sacarlson> bazhang: your correct sorry I just googled the name didn't see that
[04:59] <bazhang> the #ubuntu-es for spanish
[04:59] <gnome2> i'm not spanish
[04:59] <gnome2> bazhang,
[05:00] <bobo37773> anyone here use conky-cli ?
[05:00] <bazhang> gnome2 I was talking to the
[05:00] <sacarlson> gnome2: if they remove it I'm sure there will be a backport someplace
[05:01] <the> bazhang, that channel don't work
[05:01] <bazhang> the sure it does
[05:01] <bazhang> the if you want spanish support thats where to go
[05:02] <the> bazhang, but theres nobody say nothing
[05:02] <the> but i try english
[05:02] <bazhang> the then be patient, or use english here
[05:02] <gnome2> sacarlson, a backport?
[05:02] <sacarlson> the: you can also run 2 or 10 different chats at the same time
[05:03] <sacarlson> gnome2: yes backport as in ppa
[05:03] <gnome2> ok
[05:03] <bobo37773> can anyone hear me here right now? test
[05:03] <gnome2> i hope gnome panel exist forever
[05:03] <bazhang> bobo37773, what is the issue with conky
[05:03] <sacarlson> gnome2: maybe in the case it would be a forport ?
[05:03] <the> sacarlson, i know but that channel does't work
[05:03] <Wildbat> [Q]: how to have gnome pop up and show shutdown message if shutdown command have been issued?
[05:04] <the> so i'll try english
[05:04] <bobo37773> bazhang: Thanks. Wasn't sure if I was connected. No problem with conky just a little curious about conky-cli version
[05:04] <sacarlson> the: not work maybe you didn't wait long enuf,  things don't always hapen in seconds sometime they take days
[05:04] <bazhang> !find conky-cli
[05:05] <bazhang> !info conky-cli
[05:05] <the> i wait a half and hour
[05:05] <sacarlson> the: i'm online 24 hours / 7 days a week
[05:06] <bobo37773> bazhang: Have you ever used it? Is it like conky except you can run it in a terminal?
[05:06] <CFHowlett> 25:8
[05:06] <bazhang> bobo37773, no idea sorry
[05:06] <the> sacarlson, do you work here?
[05:06] <bazhang> the what is your support issue
[05:06] <dungeonduke> hi there, does anybode know how to solve the problem with login screen. Sometimes after boot i've got an artifacts on screen. If i press enter then screen flashes , after this i can login.
[05:06] <haslguitar> why does this channel have so many users?
[05:06] <sacarlson> the: there is a small difference from work and play,  I exist
[05:06] <the> my speacker doesn't work
[05:07] <haslguitar> speeker?
[05:07] <bazhang> the and where is the pastebin output of lspci I asked you for
[05:07] <haslguitar> speaker?
[05:07] <CFHowlett> haslguitar   do you have an ubuntu support request?
[05:07] <sacarlson> bazhang: his sound card works since he has sound out the headphone
[05:07] <dungeonduke> probably this connected with Nvidia driver
[05:07] <haslguitar> not really.  i just saw this channel had so many people and was wondering why.
[05:07] <bazhang> sacarlson, he said he had PCI speakers as well
[05:07] <the> bazhang, this
[05:08] <sacarlson> bazhang: I just can't get the: to try click the headphones disable botton in gnome-alsamixer
[05:08] <bazhang> the yes paste.ubuntu.com with the output of lspci
[05:08] <the> sacarlson, i did it
[05:09] <gnome2> sacarlson, forport?
[05:09] <sacarlson> gnome2: just a name I tried to make up
[05:09] <haslguitar> do you know how to hack?
[05:10] <haslguitar> cuz i have this friend that really needs to know how.
[05:10] <gnome2> xD
[05:10] <CFHowlett> haslguitar   this is not a hacking channel.  Please limit yourself to ubuntu support or go elsewhere
[05:10] <aeon-ltd> haslguitar: ... get out.
[05:10] <bazhang> haslguitar, thats not on topic here
[05:10] <sacarlson> gnome2: backport is normaly what we pull from forward releases so if you push something from old release into new release what is it called?
[05:10] <bazhang> aeon-ltd, not necessary
[05:10] <haslguitar> but what if i using ubuntu?  then can i hack?
[05:10] <bobo37773> dungeonduke: Have you tryed any other display managers? Last I heard (this was a while ago) there were still a couple of small issues to sort out with lightdm if that is in fact what you're talking about (don't quote me on that I dont have a link handy)
[05:10] <gnome2> yes yes sacarlson
[05:10] <aeon-ltd> haslguitar: you and your friend need to do a lot of reading on what hacking is, also several laws.
[05:10] <bazhang> haslguitar, dont ask for that here
[05:10] <haslguitar> aeon-ltd:  thanks for the help.  we will!
[05:11] <the> hack?
[05:11] <gnome2> it would be nice to stay with gnome 2
[05:11] <haslguitar> yeah like stealing peoples credit cards and phone numbers!
[05:11] <gnome2> on ubuntu 12.04
[05:11] <Ben64> :|
[05:11] <aeon-ltd> ...
[05:11] <the> lolo
[05:11] <CFHowlett> !ops|haslguitar
[05:11] <aeon-ltd> long-con troll?
[05:11] <Ben64> bazhang got to that quick
[05:12] <snowrichard> while my ubuntu is booting up on my amd64 system, my monitor displays "Input not support" and there is no text or splash screen during boot.  It will also give me the same message after booting if I try to use a text console.  Where is a tutorial on how to fix this?
[05:12] <gnome2> who's a troll
[05:12] <sacarlson> gnome2: I find that gnome-shell makes me fell at home again like my old ubuntu 10.04
[05:12] <gnome2> really sacarlson ?
[05:12] <gnome2> well i'll give it a last chance
[05:12] <bobo37773> gnome2: How many other window managers have you tryed? I was stuck on gnome 2 but then found there are many other alternatives.
[05:12] <dungeonduke> bobo37773: i've got this problem only with default manager
[05:12] <gnome2> bobo37773, well there's xfce, mate
[05:13] <sacarlson> gnome2: ya also cinimon is better than unity in my opinion
[05:13] <the> sacarlson, man see you, im going to sleep, it's late
[05:13] <sacarlson> the: ok good luck
[05:13] <snowrichard> flux box or black box if you really want minimal
[05:13] <bobo37773> gnome2: I made the switch to openbox and am very happy. I think if I went back to a compoisting wm I would stick to a wm only though probably straight compiz
[05:14] <gnome2> but i want to work with nautilus
[05:14] <the> sale we ahi la vemos luego
[05:14] <the> se cuidan
[05:14] <the> chidos por ayudar
[05:14] <bobo37773> dungeonduke: Try another one and see if you still have the issue.
[05:14] <gnome2> bobo37773, ubuntu 9
[05:14] <snowrichard> any idea how to set my video mode so boot splash and text consoles will be at a mode my monitor can use?
[05:14] <gnome2> bobo37773, ubuntu + openbox = oubuntu?
[05:15] <gnome2> :0
[05:15] <bobo37773> gnome2: Nautilus is a file manager. While it does pull a fair amount of dependencies you can use it in and window manager
[05:15] <gnome2> ah ok
[05:16] <gnome2> well maybe I'll give a try to other wm
[05:16] <bobo37773> gnome2: Well there is crunchbang if you want openbox or there is lubuntu (pretty sure its still openbox it just sits inside lxde).
[05:16] <matias_> Ya se puede actualizar GNOME a la version 3.4?
[05:16] <matias_> yo tengo ubuntu 11.10
[05:16] <songxk_> vitualbox is nic
[05:16] <CFHowlett> !es|matias_
[05:16] <anthropos> gnome2, what are you looking for in a wm
[05:17] <bobo37773> matias_: Probably. Did you look around for a ppa?
[05:17] <gnome2> well, panel customization
[05:17] <snowrichard> ok no one seems to know at the moment i'll go google thanks
[05:17] <anthropos> gnome2, what else? what kind of hw do you wnat to run it on?
[05:17] <dungeonduke> bobo37773: http://askubuntu.com/questions/95312/why-do-i-sometimes-log-in-twice-instead-of-once i think here is the same problem, but still no solution
[05:17] <gnome2> intel 64
[05:17] <anthropos> whad kinf of graphics card
[05:17] <gnome2> amd radeon 5450
[05:18] <gnome2> ati
[05:18] <gnome2> why are u asking me so anthropos
[05:19] <anthropos> because it changes what kind of wm you can run
[05:19] <gnome2> ok
[05:19] <sacarlson> snowrichard: I used https://launchpad.net/~danielrichter2007/+archive/grub-customizer  to set resolion to like 640X480 or some small number
[05:19] <gnome2> i know there's some bugs with ati radeon cards and ubuntu latest releases
[05:19] <anthropos> the 5450 is a separate card or is it onboard?
[05:19] <anthropos> the bugs are only really an issue with gnome 3 afaik
[05:19] <gnome2> separate
[05:19] <anthropos> unity works, gnome 2 works
[05:19] <gnome2> ok nice
[05:19] <anthropos> gnome 3 will work more or less, but it requires more effort.
[05:20] <gnome2> oh no
[05:20] <gnome2> but gnome fallbaks is gnome 3
[05:20] <gnome2> fck
[05:20] <bobo37773> dungeonduke: Did you attempt the fix on that post?
[05:20] <anthropos> I have an ati card in my netbook and I use gnome 3 (well, gnome shell). and yes, it falls back by default. you can make it work though
[05:20] <gnome2> which ati radeon do u have anthr
[05:20] <anthropos> fglrx
[05:21] <anthropos> the proprietary driver
[05:21] <gnome2> hmm
[05:21] <gnome2> like me
[05:21] <dungeonduke> yes i did, this bug chasing me since Ubuntu 10.10
[05:21] <gnome2> it runs well on 10.10
[05:21] <anthropos> I think the problem i had may be unique to the netbook chipsets (fusion / zacate)
[05:21] <anthropos> what wm are you trying to run? gnome 3?
[05:21] <gnome2> ok
[05:21] <gnome2> well now i'm on 10.10
[05:21] <bobo37773> dungeonduke: What version of Ubuntu do you use?
[05:21] <gnome2> gnome 2
[05:21] <gnome2> but in april i'll switch to gnome fallback ubuntu 12.04
[05:22] <gnome2> altough i've read somewhere that gnome-fallback has no future :(
[05:23] <gnome2> it's just a transient option
[05:23] <anthropos> I suspect all the modern gnome  stuff will be based on gnome shell now. but some wm's based on gnome shell look a lot like gnome 2
[05:23] <anthropos> like cinnamon
[05:23] <dungeonduke> bobo37773: Description:	Ubuntu 11.10
[05:23] <gnome2> cinnamon...
[05:23] <gnome2> hmmm
[05:23] <gnome2> i'll investigate
[05:23] <anthropos> it's essentially the mint  developer's take on gnome 3, which basically makes it look very much like gnome 2
[05:23] <anthropos> I personally like gnome shell as is, but i understand why you might object to it
[05:24] <gnome2> but isn't cinnnamon for mint?
[05:24] <anthropos> you can run it in ubuntu
[05:24] <anthropos> i dont know if its in the repos or not. it probably is
[05:24] <sacarlson> gnome2: that's what I'm presently looking at cinnamon on my screen,  just getting used to the new feel
[05:24] <gnome2> but what a mess no?
[05:24] <anthropos> i don't think it will be a miss
[05:24] <anthropos> I think you'll install it and that will be that.
[05:24] <anthropos> the only problem i forsee is fglrx playing nice with gnome shell
[05:25] <anthropos> which can be a problem for some cards
[05:25] <bobo37773> dungeonduke: Here is how to switch to test a new dm -->  http://www.webupd8.org/2011/07/how-to-switch-between-gdm-lightdm-or.html
[05:25] <gnome2> well i installed 12.04 + mate, then did apt-get update and system crash for example
[05:25] <bobo37773> dungeonduke: Well, you will have to install the package you want first.
[05:25] <sacarlson> gnome2: just more options,  problem is now seems everyone is looking a different looking screens and harder to know how to instruct to get what they want
[05:25] <anthropos> 12.04 is beta
[05:26] <anthropos> the beauty of linux is that you can pick whatever desktop environment you wnat, there is no right or wrong choice
[05:26] <gnome2> i understand
[05:26] <dungeonduke> bobo37773: thanks, will do this
[05:26] <gnome2> so anthropos, with my ati radeon 5450 i might went into problems with gnome 3?
[05:26] <gnome2> this is no magic
[05:26] <gnome2> no beauty
[05:26] <gnome2> xD
[05:27] <anthropos> i don't know, but you can check google. if its the netbook chipset then it might be a problem
[05:27] <bobo37773> dungeonduke: Okay let us know. Not sure how much it will help since I think 10.10 was gdm and not lightdm if I remember correctly.
[05:27] <anthropos> nm, you said it was a separate card. it's probably ok
[05:27] <gnome2> ok
[05:27] <gnome2> well actually is silly what i asking, cause i already tried 12.04 with my ati card
[05:27] <gnome2> and went well
[05:27] <gnome2> xD
[05:28] <gnome2> anyway
[05:28] <gnome2> thanks guys
[05:28] <FloodBot1> gnome2: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:28] <anthropos> np, take care.
[05:30] <pratz> hey guys can i have sound icon with music player in ubuntu 10.04 as we have in ubuntu 11.04 ?
[05:30] <songxk_> can 12.04 work well with ATI
[05:30] <anthropos> yes, why not
[05:30] <dalek_> my desktop manager died. I just upgraded from 10.10 to 11.10 and then I let update manager update... it killed lightdm desktop manager. Now I can't boot. I get "* Starting LightDm Display Manager [fail]" and it hangs there.
[05:30] <anthropos> (to songxk_)
[05:30] <songxk_> That is good
[05:31] <anthropos> I think it works AS well as any of the others :) you'll still have to put up with crappy drivers from ati
[05:31] <E3D3> I can talk nonsense but that time-indicator of new Beta upgrader...drives me crazy.
[05:31] <scientes> dalek_, "just upgraded from 10.10 to 11.10"
[05:31] <scientes> dalek_, did you upgrade to 11.04 first?
[05:31] <bobo37773> pratz: You mean like a sound up / down panel applet?
[05:31] <dalek_> scientes: nope. skipped it entirely.
[05:32] <scientes> dalek_, then you did an unsupported upgrade
[05:32] <research4oscar> i created a group developers and assigned him shell /bin/sh and home directory /var/www.  I then created developer1 right and assinged him shell /bin/false and to the developer group.  The problem is i can't upload files.
[05:32] <scientes> !upgrade
[05:32] <pratz> bobo37773: sound up / down plus banshee player next previous in it
[05:34] <dalek_> scientes: it is pointless giving me browser links - I have to GUI to run a browser in. How can installing 11.10 be unsupported? What about people who installed 11.10 straight from windows without ever having 11.04 installed?\
[05:34] <dalek_> scientes: *no gui
[05:35] <bobo37773> pratz: Do you have "indicator-sound" package installed? Is that no longer available in 11.04?
[05:35] <bazhang> dalek_, whats the issue
[05:35] <ozzfan76> installed ubuntu 12.04 64 bit, works well but a USB 3G CDMA modem does not get automatically listed in Network Manager so i cannot configure it. The modem worked well in 10.10, 11.04 and 11.10
[05:35] <pratz> bobo37773: i want this in ubuntu 10.04
[05:35] <bazhang> ozzfan76, #ubuntu+1 for 12.04
[05:35] <dalek_> bazhang: lightdm died after I selected update in update manager
[05:36] <anthropos> research4oscar, elaborate, upload how. and one typically assigns a shell to a user not a group afaik
[05:36] <ozzfan76> ok thanks.. sorry didn't know :)
[05:36] <sacarlson> research4oscar: I can't read enuf into that to make head or tails of it
[05:36] <pratz> bobo37773: i want 11.04 indicator-sound applet in 10.04 , possible ?
[05:36] <dalek_> bazhang: now I can't boot past *staring lightdm display manager [fail]
[05:36] <bazhang> dalek_, what about in recovery mode
[05:37] <bobo37773> pratz: oh I see. Do you have the indicator-sound package installed? Is it in your repos
[05:37] <sacarlson> research4oscar: I guess instead of telling what you did at this point tell us what your goal is?
[05:37] <dalek_> bazhang: how do I get into recovery mode?
[05:37] <bazhang> dalek_, hold shift a t boot
[05:37] <scientes> dalek_, fresh installs are supported, and you can do a fresh install to your existing setup without loosing your /home files
[05:37] <scientes> ^^^on shift
[05:38] <turd> can i ask questions about Wine in here?
[05:38] <bazhang> scientes, upgrades are supported too, not just fresh installs
[05:38] <sacarlson> research4oscar: limit the bin that the users have access to I guess is what you want
[05:38] <CFHowlett> !wine|turd
[05:38] <bazhang> turd, about the program or games
[05:38] <HeliusCron^> I have a grub problem.  Somehow when I installed Ubuntu grub ended up on my 3rd data drive,  any way to fix this?
[05:38] <research4oscar> sacarlson: i want to add a couple of users to my new ubuntu setup with access only to a folder under var/www
[05:38] <scientes> bazhang, he upgraded from 10.10 to 11.10 directly
[05:38] <dalek_> scientes: In that case, that is what I did, a fresh install off a live USB disk with the option to retain /home files
[05:38] <bin_bash> Has anyone used ubuntu on the new ideapad U300e?
[05:38] <scientes> dalek_, OOOH, ok
[05:38] <sacarlson> research4oscar: can't you just add those users to the group www-data ?
[05:38] <HeliusCron^> i chose the install beside win7 option
[05:38] <research4oscar> sacarlson: so that they can upload html files.
[05:39] <research4oscar> sacarlson: yup tried that.
[05:39] <bobo37773> dalek_: Can you get into a shell?
[05:39] <sacarlson> research4oscar: and the results being ?  maybe you also have permisions on the dir /var/www set to what?
[05:40] <dalek_> bobo37773: I am in the alt+ctrl+F1 terminal, if that is what you mean? I am accessing IRC through irssi
[05:40] <dalek_> bobo37773: alt+f1 rather... I forget I don't need to hold ctrl ;)
[05:41] <bobo37773> dalek_: Gotcha yeah thats what I meant. Did you try --> sudo dpkg-reconfigure displaymanagername
[05:41] <dalek_> bobo37773: I tried that already... it fails. Hold on - I will get the error message
[05:41] <bobo37773> dalek_: Really? I have to hold ctrl. How did you do that? Or is that a default Ubuntu thing?
[05:41] <bobo37773> dalek_: Install gdm and switch to that and see if that works
[05:42] <bobo37773> dalek_: sudo apt-get install gdm && sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[05:43] <research4oscar_> sacarlson: that is what i was thinking. how can i check what rights they have on their folder?
[05:44] <sacarlson> research4oscar: sudo ls -l -d /var/www
[05:44] <bin_bash> Really? Nobody?
[05:45] <sacarlson> dam I'm slow
[05:45] <dalek_> bobo37773: hold on... before I try to revert to GDM, what do you think of this error for lightDM? "dpkg-mainscript-helper: warning environment variable DPKG_MAINTSCRIPT_NAME missing" and same error again but ending in "DPKG_MAINTSCRIPT_PACKAGE missing"
[05:46] <dalek_> bobo37773: sorry if I am taking long time to anwser, but I have no idea how to copy/paste in a tty terminal so I have to type everything by hand
[05:47] <bobo37773>  dalek_ Just a second. Be right back
[05:48] <dalek_> ok
[05:51] <dalek_> this is my first time using irssi ;)
[05:51] <rexbutler> What is the default font for the gnome terminal?  I need to reset it.
[05:51] <rexbutler> It's looking monsterous.
[05:51] <anthropos> wingdings
[05:51] <dalek_> lol
[05:51] <songxk_> how to install lamp on ubunut
[05:52] <songxk_> how to install lamp on ubuntu
[05:52] <rexbutler> :)
[05:52] <CarterL> howdy, i have a problem.  for some reason, fresh ubuntu install.  Windows for some reason will not stay on top.  So when i alt-tab or select another window it will not come to the top.  has anyone else experience this?
[05:52] <anthropos> i think there is a unified package for the entire lamp stack. but, you should know what you are doing if you install this and expose it ot the public
[05:52] <rexbutler> I almost feel for that, even though I've seen wingdings before
[05:52] <rexbutler> it's late
[05:52] <CFHowlett> songxk_   http://www.unixmen.com/install-lamp-with-1-command-in-ubuntu-1010-maverick-meerkat/
[05:52] <songxk_> thank u CFHowlett
[05:52] <CFHowlett> songxk_   have fun / be safe
[05:53] <songxk_> my tasksel can not work
[05:53] <CFHowlett> songxk_   *sudo* tasksel
[05:53] <rexbutler> Hah... I'll just load up my other VM!
[05:54] <dalek_> bobo37773: are you still around?
[05:54] <cyberex> hi
[05:55] <songxk_> vi or vim
[05:55] <dalek_> what was the key to get grub menu up while booting again? shift key was it?
[05:55] <CFHowlett> Cyberex greetings
[05:56] <dalek_> brb
[05:56] <HeliusCron^> I have a grub problem.  Somehow when I installed Ubuntu grub ended up on my 3rd data drive,  any way to fix this?
[05:59] <sacarlson> HeliusCron^: you can change the boot sequence in bios and after boot you can also reload the mbr to the other desired hard disk
[06:00] <bobo37773> HeliusCron^: Was that the default? How did you do this?
[06:02] <bobo37773> dalek_: hey
[06:02] <dalek_> bobo37773: I am back
[06:02] <hateball> HeliusCron^: This may be helpful https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#The_graphical_way
[06:03] <bobo37773> dalek_: I see that. So did gdm work any better?
[06:03] <dungeonduke> bobo37773: thank you for help, i've installed gdm and problem now seems to be solved
[06:03] <dalek_> bobo37773: I tired booting in recovery mode to see what happened.
[06:03] <waynewang> who give me a stream video link,i want to learn mplayer ,thankyou
[06:03] <bobo37773> dungeonduke: Very cool. Glad I could help. Hopefully this gets fixed upstream soon.
[06:04] <CFHowlett> !cn|waynewang
[06:04] <bobo37773> waynewang: Is that a question or a statement?
[06:04] <mukeshece> waynewang which type of link rstp?
[06:04] <bobo37773> dalek_: And what happened?
[06:04] <waynewang> mms   or   rstp
[06:05] <waynewang> mukeshece both are ok
[06:05] <mukeshece> try this: rtsp://v6.cache1.c.youtube.com/CjYLENy73wIaLQlzkVp9YR-69RMYJCAkFEIJbXYtZ29vZ2xlSARSBWluZGV4YLqFpPbF_pi4Tww=/0/0/0/video.3gp
[06:05] <waynewang> mukesheceok
[06:06] <dalek_> bobo37773: I came to the recovery menu, wasn't sure which option to pick, so I just picked the top option (which was like start normally).. and that threw me into a command prompt. I rebooted again and the "*Starting LightDM Desktop Manager" has changed from [fail] to [ok].
[06:06] <techlobyte1> is wpa2 encrypted differently for each attached device?
[06:06] <bobo37773> techlobyte1: You mean is the pairwise key different?
[06:07] <user1> hi, how to install oracle 10g xe in ubuntu 11.10 64 bit, pls help me...
[06:07] <techlobyte1> I guess
[06:07] <bobo37773> dalek_: Oh cool. So its working now? Can you get into X?
[06:07] <dalek_> bobo37773: but now the boot-up sequence hangs at "Starting userspace bootsplash [ok]"
[06:07] <dalek_> bobo37773: no
[06:07] <bobo37773> dalek_: Okay. Try gdm and see if that works.
[06:07] <techlobyte1> bobo37773, yea
[06:08] <techlobyte1> bobo37773, does the handshake establish a different encryption hash for each attached device
[06:08] <foobArrr> I sometimes have problems after resuming from hibernation: A lot of UI elements are not clickable, awn dock for example. It keeps displaying stuff (cpu indicator) fine, however.. Running stuff via alt+f2 doesn't work. I can type in open terminals, as soon as I press enter, nothing happens anymore. If I try to use tab completion, nothing happens anymore. I can't login via ssh, it asks for the password, then nothing happens anymore. Switching to text mo
[06:08] <foobArrr> de terminals (Alt+f1/f2/..., how are they called?) doesn't work. After a few minutes even the mouse cursor freezes.
[06:08] <joosengee> some one use the ubuntu server
[06:08] <bazhang> foobArrr, what version of ubuntu
[06:08] <bobo37773> techlobyte1: Not 100% sure. But I think they are the same. Doesn't the important part of the handshake come from the router?
[06:08] <foobArrr> 11.10
[06:09] <joosengee> 11.10
[06:09] <bazhang> joosengee, try #ubuntu-server
[06:09] <techlobyte1> bobo37773, it does, I just wonder how vulnerable I am in sharing my pre-shared key
[06:09] <bobo37773> techlobyte1: Sharing your preshared key? You mean the passphrase?
[06:10] <techlobyte1> bobo37773, yea
[06:10] <rexbutler> Question:  I've been messing around with vim and terminal color schemes.  It seems that that the "Linux console" default scheme has changed, along with a few others.
[06:10] <rexbutler> Is there a way to force that back?
[06:10] <bobo37773> techlobyte1: There are a lot of variables to consider. Do you know every device on your network?
[06:11] <techlobyte1> bobo37773, well see there was this St. Patricks party, and I wanted to earn some qiri
[06:12] <bobo37773> techlobyte1: what is qiri? Not that it matters. Okay so you gave your password to some people you don't know? Is that what you are saying?
[06:12] <techlobyte1> bobo37773, so far I do know everyone, but I don't want to
[06:12] <mukeshece> user1 : check this :  Oracle Database 10g Express Edition add Oracle’s repository to your /etc/apt/sources.list file echo -e "n# Oracle repositoryndeb http://oss.oracle.com/debian unstable main non-free | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:13] <techlobyte1> bobo37773, I don't want to expose myself unduly
[06:13] <bobo37773> techlobyte1: Is this happening right now or are we talking paste-tense?
[06:13] <bobo37773> techlobyte1: past*
[06:13] <mukeshece> user1: better check this link :  http://howandyou.com/how-to-install-oracle-database-10g-xe-and-oc4j-on-ubuntu/
[06:14] <ronny__> ...???..
[06:14] <techlobyte1> bobo37773, is it somehow frowned upon to share your network with neighbors?
[06:14] <techlobyte1> bobo37773, we're all kind of poor because of the depression
[06:15] <techlobyte1> bobo37773, so I was just wondering if I'm opening myself up to sniffers
[06:15] <bobo37773> techlobyte1: Not really. Just pay attention to what is happening on your network. I guess what I mean is know every mac address on the network.
[06:15] <techlobyte1> bobo37773, sage advice
[06:16] <bobo37773> techlobyte1: Well you may be. But most people can't really accomplish that very well anyways. Just make sure you use https everywhere extension and use a local dns server
[06:16] <dalek_> bobo37773: I jsut had visitors at the door, but now they are gone. Do you want me to try GDM now?
[06:16] <bobo37773> dalek_: May be a fix. It's up to you
[06:16] <techlobyte1> bobo37773, I was using opendns so I could sniff them
[06:16] <techlobyte1> bobo37773, without invading their privacy
[06:17] <dalek_> bobo37773: so..... sudo apt-get install gdm and then what was the rest?
[06:17] <bobo37773> techlobyte1: Hahaha. Yeah okay. Anyways, I meant just for your machine specifically. Something like pdnsd
[06:18] <techlobyte1> bobo37773, thanks
[06:18] <bobo37773> techlobyte1: Your welcome. Always pay attention to the traffic on your network
[06:18] <toygarden> Good morning people. I have problems with my laptop when resuming from suspend. Can't see the screen. Sounds familiar to anyone?
[06:18] <bobo37773> dalek_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[06:20] <anthropos> toygarden, do you have a swap partition that is as large as your memory?
[06:20] <dalek_> bobo37773: ok.. it looks like dpkg is runing automatically after entering apt-get install anyway
[06:20] <bobo37773> dalek_: Well pay close attention. If it does not switch it that is the command
[06:22] <dalek_> bobo37773: it came up with a congfiguration screen asking me to choose between gdm and lightdm, and entered ok.
[06:22] <bobo37773> dalek_: ?? Did you pick gdm?
[06:22] <michaeljones> hello
[06:23] <toygarden> anthropos: i'm not sure. df does not display a swap partition? what command can I run to check it?
[06:23] <bobo37773> michaeljones: Hello
[06:23] <adnan_kamili> Does anybody know , when brcmsmac driver will support AP mode. It is causing lot of problem.I have been waiting for a year not, and i don't want to use Windows for that!
[06:23] <CFHowlett> michaeljones   greetings
[06:23] <dalek_> bobo37773: yes, forgot to mention that.
[06:23] <michaeljones> would it be possible to have an ubuntu install I can boot natively as well as boot from inside of a VM?
[06:23] <bobo37773> dalek_: haha. Okay. Reboot
[06:23] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[06:23] <michaeljones> if I give it its own hard drive?
[06:23] <anthropos> fdisk -l will list all your partitions if you are using msdos partition tables, which you prob are
[06:23] <dalek_> bobo37773: will reboot now to see what is broken now.
[06:23] <dalek_> brb
[06:24] <bobo37773> dalek_: Will be here waiting for you
[06:24] <anthropos> michaeljones, it would be hard
[06:24] <sacarlson> adnan_kamili: adhoc works in most cases when ap mode doesn't exist
[06:24] <michaeljones> anthropos: how so?
[06:24] <anthropos> you'd be switching hw constantly. your bare metal hw is totally diff than what it will see in the vm
[06:24] <goddard> any way to get h.264 support in firefox?
[06:24] <anthropos> it'd be better to run it in a vm in both cases
[06:24] <bobo37773> michaeljones: Please elaborate a little if you don't mind
[06:25] <anthropos> you can run it on top of a bare bones hypervisor though
[06:25] <michaeljones> anthropos: right but as long as the drivers for everything exist why should it matter?
[06:25] <anthropos> michaeljones, like I said, it's not impossible
[06:25] <anthropos> just likely to be problematic.
[06:25] <toygarden> anthropos: fdisk -l lists that my swap is 2928640 blocks. now, how do I know what blocksize my fs uses?
[06:25] <michaeljones> bobo37773: I want to install ubuntu and boot it from an SSD
[06:25] <anthropos> why do you need a vm to do that michaeljones
[06:25] <michaeljones> but when I'm on windows I want to be able to boot that same ubuntu installation from VMware
[06:25] <michaeljones> bobo37773: ^
[06:26] <anthropos> i think it's a bad idea. but i'm not going to say it's impossible
[06:26] <bobo37773> michaeljones: So you want to install on a hard drive and then put it in some kind of hot swap usb and boot that from a vm? Is that what you mean? Or do you mean an internal drive?
[06:27] <anthropos> toygarden, try sfdisk -l -uM
[06:27] <anthropos> he wantsd to boot the same OS both from the bare metal and in a vm
[06:27] <michaeljones> bobo37773: I mean a separate internal drive
[06:27] <anthropos> basically he wants to boot a normal linux install in a VM without cloning it or anything
[06:27] <dalek_> bobo37773: hangs at a different point now. Also, it appears from the boot up messages that GDM and LightDM are trying to run simultaneously... perhaps I should purge lightdm?
[06:28] <bobo37773> dalek_: Yeah try that and then reconfigure again.
[06:28] <anthropos> it'd be better to run it in a hypervisor like kvm or something when you want to boot it "directly", so it's always virtualized, but it would not be running on top of windows always
[06:28] <dalek_> bobo37773: I also noticed that the screen flickers a few times before it hangs, like it is trying to switch screen modes but fails.
[06:29] <michaeljones> anthropos: so have KVM also boot windows?
[06:29] <toygarden> anthropos: ok, looks like my swap drive is only 3GB and I have 6GB memory. also, I dual-boot on a 128GB SSD, so I don't think I can double the swap space. do you know of any other solution? as it is i just hibernate instead.
[06:29] <joosengee> about the ubuntu server room is closed.
[06:29] <anthropos> you could do that. it's not what i was thinking, but perhaps it's better. anyways, I invite you to try what you want, michaeljones, and let me know if you get it working
[06:29] <anthropos> but I think it'll be hard to get it working without problems developing at some point
[06:29] <anthropos> linux is pretty tolerant of switching out hw, but this would really be taking it to the next level.
[06:29] <bobo37773> dalek_: Hmm. Maybe try killing gdm / lightdm from the console and then just booting straight into X would work or at least give you an error taht makes sense
[06:29] <anthropos> beyond just changing out a mobo once or something
[06:30] <HeliusCron^> default ubuntu install beside win7 option sacarlson
[06:30] <joosengee> I don't know the new room that tell about impement for server.
[06:30] <HeliusCron^> installed to same drive as my win7 install
[06:30] <anthropos> toygarden, you need a swap  partition as large as your ram to suspend, afaik
[06:30] <bobo37773> michaeljones: I do not understand the advantage here. Do you want portability or something?
[06:30] <joosengee> windows 8 is good, someone tell me.
[06:30] <anthropos> I do not know any workaround. but you could swap to a usb key or something. personally I wouldn't swap to an SSD anyways
[06:30] <joosengee> look friendly.
[06:30] <anthropos> if you have 6gb of memory the only thing you are likely to use swap for is suspending
[06:30] <joosengee> and easy to use.
[06:31] <CFHowlett> !ot|joosengee
[06:31] <bobo37773> joosengee: If someone told you then it has to be true. I should go buy a copy right now :p
[06:32] <dalek_> bobo37773: I have just purged lightdm (which also took ubuntu-desktop with it). Now I am rebooting again. brb
[06:32] <toygarden> anthropos: ok, i guess it figures. do you know if there's other pitfalls for me, having a smaller swap partition?
[06:32] <anthropos> toygarden, what kind of comp is it?
[06:33] <SmokeyD> Hey everyone. I have windows XP and ubuntu on my machine in dual boot. I want to swap windows XP for windows 7. Can I just erase windows XP and install windows 7 in the empty space, and then boot from a live cd and reinstall grub?
[06:33] <CFHowlett> SmokeyD   that should work
[06:33] <anthropos> SmokeyD, yes but win 7 will def nuke grub :)
[06:33] <SmokeyD> Windows XP is at the beginning of the hd and there is enough space available for windows 7
[06:33] <toygarden> anthropos: a toshiba satellite z830, laptop, wiht ssd
[06:34] <michaeljones> bobo37773: basically I want my ubuntu install available even when I'm in windows
[06:34] <anthropos> toygarden, you don't really need any swap at all. i would not use a swap partition on such a computer. the only reason you need it is to suspend and just to be on the safe side so you don't run out of memory encoding media or something
[06:34] <anthropos> but realistically, you need no swap
[06:34] <michaeljones> and I'd rather not do some crappy split / and /home partition install
[06:34] <SmokeyD> Anthropos that is no problem as long as I can reinstall it again
[06:35] <bobo37773> michaeljones: So you want a virtual machine that is synced basically? Also, why is seperating / and /home a crappy install? hahaha
[06:35] <anthropos> michaeljones, you could just run windows in a VM in linux
[06:35] <anthropos> yes, his vm idea is pretty bold...
[06:35] <bobo37773> this ^^
[06:35] <jessie> hi
[06:35] <RedBunny> is there a program manager to force quit a program ,... like task manager .?
[06:35] <bobo37773> jessie: Hi!
[06:35] <toygarden> anthropos: ok. I don't think I'll remove it, but I giess I won't run in to other problems with it. thanks!
[06:35] <rexbutler> Question: 'tput colors' gives me 8... is there a way I can fix this?
[06:36] <michaeljones> bobo37773: because I'd have to maintain 2 ubuntu installs
[06:36] <bobo37773> RedBunny: I use htop
[06:36] <jessie> how to create a bootable usb to install ubuntu 11.10
[06:36] <RedBunny> thanx
[06:36] <bobo37773> michaeljones: If you use a seperate /home?
[06:36] <Linse> Good morning
[06:36] <CFHowlett> jessie   startupdiskcreator or unetbootin
[06:36] <bobo37773> Linse: Good evening
[06:36] <CFHowlett> Linse   greetings
[06:36] <RedBunny> how do i make a folder in my home folder Websites ,... show up on the left sidee of the folder program ....where pictures and documents are at
[06:36] <michaeljones> bobo37773: /home, then 1 / for the native boot, and another / for the VM
[06:36] <michaeljones> bobo37773: yea
[06:37] <jessie> CFHowlett:i tried thru startup but not booting
[06:37] <SmokeyD> Redbunny, there is a graphical taskmanager as well
[06:37] <CFHowlett> jessie   you mean startupdiskcreator is absent or won't work?
[06:38] <dalek_> bobo37773: failed again. Hangs at message "* Checking battery state..."
[06:38] <sacarlson> jessie: it might require some changes in bios settings to change boot sequence to boot usb first
[06:38] <bobo37773> michaeljones: I always use a seperate /home. Hasn't given me any problems yet. I think I know what you are trying to get at though. I think the short answer is no. It will not work like you think it will.
[06:38] <jessie> CFHowlett:wont work
[06:38] <CFHowlett> jessie   try unetbootin
[06:38] <michaeljones> bobo37773: techically speaking thought what is stopping it from working?
[06:38] <anthropos> if you want to see an OS really freak out, try switching windows from VM to bare metal and vice versa
[06:39] <michaeljones> lol anthropos
[06:39] <bobo37773> dalek_: Why did you remove ubuntu-desktop? I tried to stop you but you were already gone. Why all the trouble? You have some data backed up on /home right? Is that it?
[06:40] <michaeljones> anthropos: I've done it, the first thing it does is it asks for a new key
[06:40] <dalek_> bobo37773: yep, it would not let me remove lightdm without ubuntu-desktop as well
[06:40] <anthropos> haha
[06:40] <sacarlson> jessie: change bios boot sequence http://pcsupport.about.com/od/fixtheproblem/ss/bootorderchange.htm ;
[06:40] <bobo37773> dalek_: Yeah ubuntu-desktop in your de I think. Your whole gui
[06:40] <bobo37773> dalek_: It is something you need
[06:41] <jessie> sacarlson
[06:41] <dalek_> bobo37773: the data is all still in my home directory. Ok, I will re-install ubuntu-desktop... but will that re-install lightdm too?
[06:41] <jessie> sacarlson
[06:41] <sacarlson> jessie: that's my name don't ware it out
[06:41] <jessie> sacarlson:will try
[06:41] <bobo37773> dalek_: It might but it shouldn't run if you reconfigure to use gdm
[06:42] <toygarden> sacarlson: nice name
[06:42] <bobo37773> dalek_: If it does just kill lightdm and gdm from your console and try to boot directly into X without a display manager
[06:43] <dalek_> bobo37773: it wants to reinstall lightdm again. Will try dpkg-reconfigure on it again when it is done.
[06:43] <bobo37773> dalek_: Let it and then kill your dm from the console
[06:43] <bobo37773> dalek_: Both of them
[06:44] <Down_to_Earth> Hey
[06:44] <bobo37773> Down_to_Earth: hey
[06:45] <RedBunny> can someone help... where there are suppost to be 'commas and appostraphies, ,', ', they are showing like o's w/ filagree and stuff ,... how did i get this to happen ,...?
[06:45] <Pulsar-> can i easily install ubuntu on an sd card ?
[06:45] <bobo37773> RedBunny: What are you talking about? Is a certain program doing this>
[06:45] <CFHowlett> RedBunny  is this in on your display?  Check your language preferences
[06:46] <RedBunny> ok
[06:46] <RedBunny> languaages are fine ,...
[06:46] <sacarlson> Pulsar-: I guess an sd card would be much the same as a usb flash install,  I'm not sure
[06:47] <Manu> join #chocoBN
[06:47] <RedBunny> in my chrome for exaple where my bookmark's are the appostraphy shows a weird symbol ,... same thing in file explorer
[06:47] <ndee> hey there, I need to connect to an external server from home. That external server accepts only a fix IP address and since I'm connecting from home, I always have a different IP address. What I now want is to proxy the SSH connection through a server of mine. What is that called? Is that a SSH tunnel?
[06:47] <Pulsar-> can i easily install ubuntu on an sd card ?
[06:47] <CFHowlett> RedBunny   paste an image
[06:47] <sacarlson> Pulsar-: yes
[06:47] <RedBunny> how do i paste an image
[06:48] <bobo37773> Pulsar-: Easy is a relative term. I am sure it is something you can accomplish if you apply yourself
[06:48] <urbancommando> Hello, I'm running ubuntu 10.10 and my external hard driver and thumb drives doesnt auto mount anymore.  Any suggestions?
[06:48] <CFHowlett> RedBunny   screenshot and paste to http://imagebin.org/?page=add
[06:48] <sacarlson> Pulsar-: maybe I should add it would be easy for me,
[06:48] <Down_to_Earth> bobo37773, I have am having some difficulty, with Viewing, my os partition, on /dev/sda5/, i checked in Gparted and it is mounted
[06:48] <Down_to_Earth> Do you know of a way i can view?
[06:49] <dalek_> bobo37773: how do I kill gdm and lightdm from terminal and boot directly into x?
[06:50] <llutz_> Down_to_Earth: check where it is mounted to (mount), then "ls -l /mountpoint" or navigate nautilus to that mountpoint
[06:50] <sacarlson> Down_to_Earth: is mounted where?  /media/??
[06:50] <RedBunny> http://imagebin.org/205958
[06:50] <Down_to_Earth> it is mounted in /host, sorry
[06:50] <bobo37773> dalek_: Use -->  sudo pkill gdm lightdm etc..
[06:50] <RedBunny> theres the image
[06:50] <bobo37773> Down_to_Earth: /host?
[06:50] <sacarlson> Down_to_Earth: sudo -s ; cd /host ; ls -l
[06:51] <Pulsar-> can i just use the ubuntu live disc to install ubuntu to an sd card ?
[06:51] <CFHowlett> RedBunny   is the display consistent?  e.g. every O has a ~ over it?
[06:51] <RedBunny> no its the appostraphies and like where my password is instead of circles it's the Y with lines in it
[06:52] <dalek_> bobo37773: ok, gdm and lightdm are killed. What now? Fresh re-install? ;)
[06:52] <arand> Pulsar-: Yes, make sure to select manual partitioning.
[06:52] <bobo37773> dalek_: Not type --> startx
[06:52] <RedBunny> it happendeed duriong a logout
[06:52] <sacarlson> Pulsar-: how is the sd card mounted?  there are many options like from a usb device or some systems have other options
[06:52] <RedBunny> all was fine and i signed back in and it was like that
[06:53] <bobo37773> dalek_: now*
[06:54] <Pulsar-> i have a slot in the computer made for the sd card and i can use a boot menu
[06:54] <CFHowlett> RedBunny   reboot and see if it persists
[06:54] <dalek_> bobo37773: oh oh oh! I think my problem might be related to nvidia driver issue... tried startx... got a bunch of nvidia fatal errors.. no screens found, failed to load nvidia kernel module, ddxsiggiveup etc...
[06:55] <sacarlson> Pulsar-: in that case I think you have a good chance of just install from livecd
[06:55] <RedBunny> i have i just got done iswtalling updates and it rebooted and its still there
[06:55] <Pulsar-> np ty
[06:55] <bobo37773> dalek_: Cool. I knew we would get a real error that way. Do you have an nvidia card
[06:55] <sacarlson> Pulsar-: you will also have to change the boot sequence in bios to boot from the ssd card first
[06:56] <RedBunny> its the last thing i have to fix before i back up my sys from installing ubuntu from windows 8 and wasnt it foixed b4 i backup
[06:56] <RedBunny> want it fixed b4 i backup
[06:56] <dalek_> bobo37773: I _was_ mucking about with "pre-release" nvidia driver in the additional hardware thingy before I attempted updates... might still be trying to use that? How do I remove and get the proper nvidia 173 driver back?
[06:57] <dalek_> bobo37773: it is an nvidia card, but I can't recall off the top of my head it's name.
[06:57] <sacarlson> Pulsar-: you might not have to change bios settings if you install the mbr to another device and just select in grub to start the sd as default
[06:58] <bobo37773> dalek_: There really aren't that many different drivers
[06:58] <RedBunny> i down loaded advanced serttings just before that and changed the font but it was working for a while ,...
[06:58] <bobo37773> dalek_: So you install the proprietary one?
[06:59] <Pulsar-> i want to be able to use the sd card like the live cd
[06:59] <Pulsar-> and not use mbr
[06:59] <Pulsar-> that do able ?
[06:59] <coder2> Hello. I had to install natty kernel from lucid backports, but system do not shutdown anymore, just rebooting instead. Please help.
[07:00] <bobo37773> dalek_: Do you have a command "nvidia-xconfig"?
[07:00] <almoxarife> Pulsar-: you want a live instant on a sd card to run, doable
[07:00] <RedBunny> i changed itback and nothing
[07:00] <dalek_> bobo37773: there were four listed in the hardware drivers window... nvidia version 96 (I think), version 173 and those same two versions again but "pre-release" in the name.
[07:00] <Jordan_U> Pulsar-: As long as your BIOS supports booting from it there is basically no difference between installing Ubuntu to an SD card vs to an internal drive (as long as the drive is large enough).
[07:01] <sacarlson> Pulsar-: maybe you just want to boot an iso file from your sd http://ansi.23-5.eu/2011/10/21/howto-boot-iso-images-via-grub2-with-ubuntu/
[07:01] <bobo37773> dalek_: Do you have a command "nvidia-xconfig"? Try logging in as super user "sudo -s" and then running "nvidia-xconfig"
[07:01] <wifioregon> I need to buy a good laptop that works well with ubuntu. Any particluar models better then others? Are there any companies that sell laptops with ubuntu already installed, since I'm going to erase windows anyways? THANKS
[07:01] <dalek_> bobo37773: yes, nvidia-settings is present.
[07:01] <dalek_> bobo37773: oops.. wrong command ;)
[07:01] <Pulsar-> ok so how about not touching the mbr ?
[07:01] <bobo37773> dalek_: brb.
[07:01] <dalek_> bobo37773: yes, the other one is there too
[07:02] <sacarlson> Pulsar-: you need an mbr to boot you can put it on the sd or other
[07:02] <bobo37773> dalek_: sudo -s and then do nvidia-xconfig
[07:02] <almoxarife> Pulsar-: in order not to touch the mbr the live needs to start from bios setup
[07:03] <sacarlson> Pulsar-: you might also not that grub is modified not the mbr
[07:03] <sacarlson> note
[07:04] <RedBunny> i read somewhere it might be the encoding ,... where would i set the encoding ,...?
[07:05] <bobo37773> dalek_: back
[07:05] <almoxarife> RedBunny: you read it, keep reading it
[07:05] <dalek_> bobo37773: it tells me VALIDATION ERROR: data incomplete in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf and Device section "Default Device" must have driver name
[07:05] <RedBunny> huh
[07:05] <bobo37773> dalek_: after trying to start X?
[07:06] <bobo37773> dalek_: Or while running that command?
[07:06] <RedBunny> no im getting wierd symbols showingup,.... wondering if i have the wrong encoding ,... for the desktop
[07:06] <dalek_> bobo37773: no, after trying to do sudo -s  nvidia-xconfig
[07:06] <bobo37773> dalek_: You did one first and then the other right?
[07:07] <almoxarife> RedBunny: if you are wondering then you are probably right
[07:07] <adammw111> Hi, I'm having trouble getting pulseaudio to see a network-discoverable pulseaudio sink/server.
[07:08] <dalek_> bobo37773: I seem to recall there is some command that will tell you which nvidia drivers are available for your card?
[07:08] <dalek_> bobo37773: yes and no. both together first, then separate
[07:08] <bobo37773> dalek_: "apt-cache search nvidia | grep -i installed"
[07:09] <dalek_> bobo37773: the validation complaint went away.
[07:09] <bobo37773> dalek_: okay. cat out the file to make sure it worked.
[07:09] <bobo37773> dalek_: "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[07:09] <Down_to_Earth> Thank you bobo37773, and sacarlson :]
[07:10] <almoxarife> adammw111: zeroconf issues?
[07:10] <bobo37773> Down_to_Earth: Your welcome. Not sure what I did but heppy to help
[07:10] <dalek_> bobo37773: yep it lists contents of the file
[07:10] <adammw111> it's appearing fine in avahi-discover, i just checked the logs and seems like it can't connect to the port, connection refused
[07:11] <bobo37773> dalek_: "modprobe nvidia"
[07:12] <bobo37773> dalek_: as root / sudo
[07:12] <almoxarife> bobo37773: do you have nvidia setup on your system?
[07:13] <bobo37773> almoxarife: Yeah. Why is the module called something else?
[07:13] <dalek_> bobo37773: nope... gives me FATAL: modul nvidia_173_updates not found
[07:13] <almoxarife> bobo37773: what did you install to get nvidia working? what version
[07:14] <almoxarife> dalek_: are you on a ubuntu system?
[07:15] <bobo37773> dalek_: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[07:15] <dalek_> almoxarife: yes. That is what I am using currently.
[07:15] <bobo37773> almoxarife: Does the binary driver not work in 11.10 is that what you mean?
[07:15] <BriteLeaf> I am new to ubuntu... Can anyone please tell me what command I need to put into terminal to become root?
[07:16] <bobo37773> BriteLeaf: sudo -s
[07:16] <bobo37773> BriteLeaf: or "sudo su"
[07:16] <BriteLeaf> YES!
[07:16] <BriteLeaf> thanks =)
[07:16] <bobo37773> welcome
[07:17] <dalek_> bobo37773: what is that repo?
[07:17] <bobo37773> dalek_: For an nvidia driver. I do not think the one you have is working correctly.
[07:18] <dalek_> ok
[07:18] <almoxarife> bobo37773: that's what I would do to install nvidia also, I would have used -edgers, but dalek_ may need to un-install any script-kiddie fixes done thus far
[07:18] <bobo37773> dalek_: You could instead do "apt-cache search nvidia | grep -i installed"
[07:19] <bobo37773> almoxarife: Agreed. I guess I don't know my way around Ubuntu as much as I used too. Does 11.10 not supprt the closed source driver for some reason?
[07:19] <llutz_> bobo37773: what do you expect as output from this command? apt-cache search gives no status information on packages
[07:19] <dalek_> bobo37773: tried apt-cache thing, and it piped out no results at all
[07:20] <dalek_> is there an easy way to copy/paste in irssi? ;)
[07:20] <bobo37773> llutz_: Oh! Okay. Please help with correct command
[07:20] <almoxarife> bobo37773: the package to use for nvidia is 'nvidia-current'
[07:20] <llutz_> bobo37773: apt-cache policy nvidia-current | grep -i insta
[07:20] <coz_> apt-cache search nvidia-current
[07:20] <bobo37773> dalek_: Are you catching all this ^^^
[07:20] <wifioregon> Anyone have an opinon as to what the best laptop manufactuer is that works really well with Debian based distros or other Linux distros?
[07:21] <dalek_> bobo37773: almost... still wish I had copy & paste to make things easier ;)
[07:21] <bobo37773> dalek_: Ah. Because you have to switch back and forth ttys? Hahaha. Part of your initiation :p
[07:22] <almoxarife> dalek_: why not  'sudo apt-get install nvidia-current' and install it if its not installed?
[07:22] <llutz_> there is screen and gpm too
[07:23] <Tradie> hello, is anyone online
[07:23] <almoxarife> dalek_: and I would assume 'dkms' is already installed
[07:23] <bobo37773> Tradie: There are a lot of people online. We can see you
[07:24] <Tradie> i need some help with the ubuntu installation. there is something going on and its confusing me heaps
[07:24] <almoxarife> Tradie: just ask the question!
[07:24] <bobo37773> Tradie: What is the something that is going on?
[07:24] <dalek_> almoxarife: it tells me nvidia-current is already installed.
[07:25] <Tradie> well, i try to boot into the ubuntu entry on the boot menu, to finalise the install and it says it cannot find the installation.iso
[07:25] <Tradie> but the file is there
[07:25] <almoxarife> dalek_: so we are back to the script-kiddie tweaks you have added on to the xorg conf via god knows
[07:25] <Tradie> ive had ubuntu running on this pc just fine before
[07:26] <almoxarife> Tradie: boot menu? which?
[07:26] <RedBunny> i somehow loaded gnome desktop onto my sys, when i logout it now loads into gnome is there a way to make it just unity
[07:26] <dalek_> almoxarife: i haven't added anything to xorg.conf
[07:27] <almoxarife> dalek_: when you bootup, do you get to a graphics screen ?
[07:27] <Tradie> well im guessing it is grub, but i installed with wubi, so its probably the crap windows one. i have had windows 8 dev build and server 2008 r2 installed mon it aswel, but i reformated before trying to install ubuntu
[07:28] <almoxarife> Tradie: it's a wubi install, meaning you installed ubuntu thru windows?
[07:28] <goddard> why do my toolbar icons disappear
[07:28] <Tradie> yes
[07:28] <dalek_> almoxarife: all I've done is activate a driver in additional drivers window and run an update through update manager. I get no graphics at all during boot up.
[07:29] <almoxarife> Tradie: you can boot into windows still?
[07:29] <Tradie> yes
[07:29] <Tradie> its just the ubuntu installation thats having trouble
[07:30] <monday> Tradie: what version are you installing?
[07:30] <RedBunny> can some one tell me how to change the system encoding ,......?
[07:30] <Tradie> ive tried 11.10 and 10.04, but same problem
[07:30] <almoxarife> Tradie: when given a choice and choosing the ubuntu bootup the issues arise?
[07:31] <dalek_> bobo37773: almoxarife - I am tempted to just do a re-install of 11.10 from a live session, and then I just won't attempt touching the nvidia driver...
[07:31] <monday> Tradie: I bet this is related to in not using something like /dev/sdb or /dev/dvd something like that.
[07:31] <dalek_> it might be quickest solution
[07:31] <monday> Tradie: are you having an issue trying to boot into ubuntu or just during the install?
[07:32] <Tradie> yeah, ive checked the mounted locations, and there is nothing mounted -_-
[07:32] <almoxarife> dalek_: install from the 'alternate' iso , be brave
[07:32] <monday> Tradie: mount it then.
[07:32] <bobo37773>  dalek_ Did you try what was mentioned before? --> "apt-get install nvidia-current"
[07:32] <Tradie> ive tried
[07:32] <almoxarife> Tradie: while in windows, you in windows right now?
[07:33] <Tradie> yeah i am
[07:33] <dalek_> almoxarife: I only have the i386 desktop version on my usb stick
[07:33] <almoxarife> Tradie: look for 'ubuntu' folder/directory in root of c:
[07:33] <Jordan_U> Tradie: I would highly recommend a normal dual boot install rather than Wubi.
[07:34] <almoxarife> dalek_: and? got a 32bit system I assume
[07:34] <monday> Tradie: I've never installed within windows. I always install booting to the disc/usb drive, ..etc
[07:34] <Tradie> ive tried that jordan
[07:34] <Tradie> it wont let me so i tried wubi
[07:35] <Jordan_U> Tradie: "won't let me" is a poor description of a problem. What happened when you tried to install Ubuntu normally? Did you boot the installer from a CD or USB?
[07:35] <dalek_> almoxarife: my point is, I am not sure how to download and write the alternate 11.10 installer onto my usb stick via a tty terminal
[07:36] <D4rkSilver> Hi, is there a group or something that gives access to internet, because right nwo, normal users can't do things like ping google.com while root can?
[07:36] <Tradie> it was a cd, and i also tried from a rewritable dvd, but it gives an error, something about bootable media
[07:36] <Jordan_U> Tradie: How did you try to write the file to the CD/DVD?
[07:36] <almoxarife> Tradie: I have had a wubi install running on a laptop(the old ladies) now for ???? , the only issue that will arise and not often is when wubibldr crashes
[07:37] <monday> Tradie: this sounds like the disc wasn't created correctly.
[07:37] <Tradie> well the disk has worked in the past
[07:37] <Tradie> i have 4 disks of it, they all give the same error
[07:37] <monday> Tradie: can you create a new one?
[07:37] <Jordan_U> Tradie: And yet these same disks work in anther machine?
[07:38] <Tradie> they worked in the same machine before
[07:38] <Tradie> and yeah i can
[07:38] <dalek_> i am going to run the installer again
[07:38] <monday> Tradie: if the disc has no issue no matter what you should be able to boot using the disc. Your drive could be having an issue preventing that. In that case create a bootable USB disc with ubuntu on it.
[07:38] <Jordan_U> Tradie: Are you sure that there is nothing wrong with the CD/DVD drive?
[07:38] <almoxarife> dalek_: me either
[07:39] <dalek_> seems to me a reinstall is the easiest way out.
[07:39] <monday> Tradie: the difficult part of that is using windows to do it and usb boot disc creators sometimes suck outside of linux.
[07:39] <Tradie> there may be, it has been a bit sketchy since i installed a new hdd. either the hdd or the disk drive show up in explorer. not both, so yeah
[07:39] <almoxarife> dalek_: yes
[07:39] <dalek_> brb
[07:39] <Tradie> and ill change the sata port of the disk drive, then try again
[07:39] <bobo37773> almoxarife: Would installing nvidia-current and rerunning nvidia-xconfig not work to boot into X on ubuntu? Why not?
[07:40] <monday> Tradie: the only time I've seen that issue is a screwy install script with debain systems. usually I'm able to mount it and continue but debain tells you where the issue is a bit better than ubuntu.
[07:41] <Tradie> debian <3 haha
[07:41] <Tradie> i prefer ubuntu over other distos of linux, and i really dont feel like migrating
[07:41] <Tradie> i would rather get this issue worked out
[07:41] <almoxarife> bobo37773: it should, yes, why not?  cruff? crap left from previous installs clobbering what one is trying to do 12 steps later?4
[07:41] <monday> Tradie: after the installs on my debian systems they rarely ever have issues.
[07:42] <monday> usually its an old computer and I'm trying to install it via the internet. not a full media version.
[07:42] <almoxarife> monday: debian? wtf is the point? install debian? really? that the answer?
[07:42] <Tradie> well, ill retry the installation to my second partition, see if that works now
[07:43] <y4h0_> ls
[07:43] <bobo37773> almoxarife: Ah, I see. Okay. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't giving horrible advice to someone. Although I do agree with you completely in the sense that I would only ever do a clean install on a Ubuntu system.
[07:43] <monday> almoxarife: just conversation. I'm not trying to make any points.
[07:43] <mukeshece> @tradie:and linux  Mint  is other dibian os i used to prefer as i do not like unity much
[07:43] <bobo37773> See you guys later. I'm out of here
[07:43] <monday> L8r
[07:43] <Tradie> monday: ill be back after i try and reinstall things and move this about a bit. thanks for the advice
[07:44] <almoxarife> monday: you DID. take the 'debian' is a the llamas azz to the debian channel
[07:44] <monday> Tradie: I hope it helps.
[07:44] <almoxarife> bob
[07:44] <monday> almoxarife: take your lame ass to bed and shut the fuck up.
[07:45] <monday> if you got the power kick my ass
[07:45] <almoxarife> monday: is that a support issue?
[07:45] <monday> I'm not asking for support I'm giving it.
[07:52] <utnubuuser> wie gehts, wie stehts
[07:52] <almoxarife> !dw
[07:52] <llutz_> !de
[07:52] <almoxarife> de:)
[07:53] <utnubuuser> sw
[07:53] <utnubuuser> ch
[07:53] <almoxarife> de:)
[07:54] <heliuscron> hi
[07:54] <Onkeltem> Hi all. I have problem with Network Manager - I can't change anything in Network Settings. See this short screencast: http://www.screencast.com/users/Onkeltem/folders/Default/media/6ea518fd-b2bb-4be7-8f8a-23545b4e8e5d
[07:55] <Onkeltem> Roughly speaking, the auth window popups for moments and disappears
[07:56] <almoxarife> Onkeltem: you changed the settings, where is the issue?
[07:57] <almoxarife> Onkeltem: btw, you changed to 'address-only' and did not give it a 'dns source' , not sure about that
[07:58] <Onkeltem> almoxarife: not the issue, any change behaves like this
[07:58] <Onkeltem> almoxarife: even if I change only "auto"
[07:59] <almoxarife> Onkeltem: like what?
[07:59] <gopi1410> ?
[07:59] <Onkeltem> almoxarife: the auth window popups and disappears not allowing to enter password
[08:00] <almoxarife> Onkeltem: but do the changes take effect?
[08:01] <Onkeltem> almoxarife: no of course, This is the problem
[08:01] <almoxarife> Onkeltem: of course
[08:02] <Onkeltem> almoxarife: I cound't save any changes to NM settins on this new installation of Ubuntu 11.10. To get network working I copied /etc/Network Manager forlder from another Ubutnu 11.10 machine
[08:03] <mukeshece> onkeltm: have you defined it as  auto in /etc/resolv.conf
[08:06] <rafalmi_> does anyone know how to solve problem described here ?
[08:06] <rafalmi_> http://www.qtforum.org/article/32763/glibc-libc-so-6-issues.html
[08:06] <almoxarife> Onkeltem: nothing you did seems to me requires root access
[08:07] <Onkeltem> mukeshece: why /etc/resolv.conf? It has nameserver 127.0.0.1 in my setup if this matters...
[08:07] <Onkeltem> almoxarife: well, it actually requires - note "for all users" at the bottom
[08:07] <Onkeltem> this is system-wide connection
[08:08] <the_last_samurai> Hello first day usig Ubuntu and I was wondering if anyone could tell me some cool things to do with it?
[08:08] <almoxarife> Onkeltem: you didn't change 'for all users'
[08:09] <llutz_> !manual | the_last_samurai learn some cool basics
[08:09] <the_last_samurai> ubottu thank you I appreciate the advice
[08:10] <mukeshece> i had same issue with synaptic package manager but got fixed by shutting down a application called screen reader
[08:10] <ce_miranda> what's room is it?
[08:13] <mukeshece> It appears that it's related to accessibility settings. I was able to fix this problem on my system by opening Universal Access, enabling then disabling the screen reader, then opening Synaptic again.
[08:13] <mukeshece> @onkeltm try once stuff told above
[08:14] <BriteLeaf> Where do I find out what the numbers mean for chmod? (i.e chmod 600, chmod 700)
[08:14] <anthropos> man chmod probably
[08:14] <llutz_> !permissions | BriteLeaf
[08:14] <BriteLeaf> thanks both
[08:17] <Tradie> hey im back. do you want the errors on the screen when.i try to boot into ubuntu for the first time
[08:17] <almoxarife> Tradie: lets see them
[08:18] <Onkeltem> mukeshece: I enabled and disabled it. Not helped :(
[08:18] <Onkeltem> almoxarife: yes, it is already system conntection. So changing anything from it initiates write to /etc
[08:19] <Tradie> busybox v1.17.1 (ubuntu 1:1.17.1-10ubuntu1) built-in shell (ash) enter help for a list of built-in commands.
[08:19] <Tradie> (initramfs)
[08:19] <almoxarife> Tradie: that's enough
[08:20] <Tradie> could not find the ISO /ubuntu/install/installation.iso
[08:20] <almoxarife> Tradie: it's a wubi install, yes or no?
[08:20] <Tradie> yes
[08:20] <almoxarife> Tradie: its been wrking till you saw that screen, yes or no?
[08:21] <almoxarife> working
[08:21] <Tradie> no
[08:21] <vipher> lo
[08:22] <almoxarife> Tradie: it's a wubi install that has never worked, yes or no?
[08:22] <Tradie> its telling me to run chkdsk then r boot and try again,but that does not work
[08:22] <almoxarife> Tradie: it's a wubi install that has never worked, yes or no?
[08:23] <Tradie> ive just installed it again then
[08:23] <almoxarife> Tradie: it's a wubi install that has never worked, yes or no?
[08:23] <Tradie> but same error every time i reinstall
[08:23] <Tradie> yes its wubi, but it has worked in the past
[08:24] <almoxarife> Tradie: it's a wubi install, yes or no?
[08:24] <Tradie> yes -_-
[08:24] <almoxarife> Tradie: it's a wubi install that has never worked, yes or no?
[08:24] <Tradie>  it has worked before yes
[08:25] <almoxarife> Tradie: it's a wubi install that worked before, like you used it and it stopped being able to reboot, yes or no?
[08:26] <Tradie> uhm no, its a fresh install of it
[08:28] <BriteLeaf> So lemme see if I get this right... chmod 700 /pathname/filename.blah would modify the filename.blah, which is in /pathname directory such that it could be read from, written to, and executed... Is that it in a nutshell?
[08:28] <llutz_> BriteLeaf: read/written/executed by owner only, yes
[08:28] <BriteLeaf> thank you
[08:28] <llutz_> BriteLeaf: nobody else (except root) would have access
[08:29] <BriteLeaf> ok
[08:29] <BriteLeaf> but chmod 600 still only gives the access to the root, other than executing, right?
[08:29] <almoxarife> Tradie: I am so confused, remember I am the guy who used wubi, has an active wubi install running on the old ladies lappie since Noah was a boot-camp, wtf is borked?!'
[08:30] <BriteLeaf> in this case, no executing allowed
[08:30] <llutz_> BriteLeaf: those 3 octal number refer to owner-group-others, so the first figure only affects owner
[08:30] <Tradie> i will be right back
[08:30] <OlaRune> root can always do everything
[08:30] <BriteLeaf> gotcha... so then 667 would affect owner, group, and others, right?
[08:31] <llutz_> yes, makes just no sense
[08:31] <OlaRune> why would you let others do more stuff than owner and group?
[08:31] <BriteLeaf> that was just an example to make sure I have it right in my head
[08:31] <OlaRune> okau :>
[08:31] <OlaRune> y*
[08:32] <BriteLeaf> thanks for all your help folks =)
[08:32] <llutz_> BriteLeaf: unfortunately, linux-permissions are pretty limited
[08:32] <sacarlson> OlaRune: because we love everyone except you
[08:33] <almoxarife> OlaRune: that's nice, root is almighty, who would have thought, now, you gonna let the neighbors run your system as 'root'?
[08:34] <BriteLeaf> I never sign in as root
[08:34] <BriteLeaf> I only use it when ABSOLUTLY necessary
[08:35] <OlaRune> almoxarife: no? why would i do that?
[08:35] <carli2> hi
[08:36] <OlaRune> almoxarife: what i meant was an answer to 301029 < BriteLeaf> but chmod 600 still only gives the access to the root, other than executing, right?
[08:36] <carli2> I packed my rootfs into a squashfs and want to unpack it on a new harddisk now. I managed to unpack the rootfs, but installing grub and getting it running is a problem
[08:36] <carl-eric> Hi - I'm having (only recently!) some problems with youtube video on my NVidia-based system. The hues appear to be rotated, making e.g. humans look blue. I tried both nvidia-current and nvidia-current-updates, no difference.
[08:37] <BriteLeaf> the file. rc as in /etc/init.d/rc... DOes that have some kind of extention? I am trying to chmod it to 700 and it tells me it can't access : No such file or directory
[08:37] <almoxarife> carl-eric: blue humans?
[08:38] <BriteLeaf> they prolly wourk for Intel. I wouldn't worry about it ;)
[08:38] <carl-eric> almoxarife, the entire video is tinted blue. It's just most obvious when looking at people.
[08:38] <llutz_> BriteLeaf: what file exactly? why do you want to chmod it?
[08:38] <BriteLeaf> rc
[08:38] <almoxarife> 1.140?
[08:38] <BriteLeaf> because I am trying to get no-ip to work so I can run a server
[08:38] <almoxarife> carl-eric: it's the vid?
[08:38] <carl-eric> almoxarife, yes
[08:38] <llutz_> BriteLeaf: _if_ you are sure about what you're doing, sudo chmod 700 /etc/init.d/rc
[08:39] <carl-eric> almoxarife, interestingly, it's only youtube. vimeo works (just thought of testing that)
[08:39] <BriteLeaf> that worked. thanks
[08:39] <Tradie> Okay, imagine if you are fist using the wubi install. And you need to boot into ubuntu for the first time to continue the installation and it gives you a terminal saying that it cannot find the ISO /ubuntu/install/installation.ISO
[08:40] <llutz_> !info noip2  |BriteLeaf: that package has an own start-script afaik, why using rc?
[08:40] <compton_u> hello
[08:41] <compton_u> does ny1 know whee to get slax iso from
[08:41] <BriteLeaf> I just installed it and was trying to follow the instructions
[08:41] <almoxarife> #slax-iso-get-channel-help???
[08:42] <carlos_> hi
[08:42] <Tradie> Almoxarife
[08:42] <BriteLeaf> problem is, where it is telling me to configure it, it gets the file a bit whacky because it is trying to use RedHat, Debian, and some other version
[08:43] <BriteLeaf> so I am using my best guess
[08:43] <almoxarife> Tradie: no idea
[08:43] <carlos_> alguien de andalucia
[08:43] <BriteLeaf> God Bless you carlos :)
[08:43] <HeliusCron> total noob here to ubuntu, but,  i did manage to install it, just needed some advice what to do now as far as updates and such?
[08:44] <carlos_> amen
[08:44] <sacarlson> Tradie: my personal opinion I wouldn't spend too much time on wubi problems,  I view it as a demo not meant for production
[08:44] <BriteLeaf> <--- bigger total newb here :P
[08:44] <carlos_> clown
[08:45] <Tradie> sacarlson: it also won't boot from cd
[08:45] <cicer8> hy people
[08:45] <llutz_> BriteLeaf: hmm, can't follow you. noip2 has its own start-script /etc/init.d/noip2 and is configured by /etc/default/noip2. so why do yu change /etc/init.d/rc?
[08:45] <killer_> how to mount ntfs partitions
[08:45] <sacarlson> Tradie: how about usb?  make sure you check your boot sequence in bios
[08:46] <fidel> HeliusCron: just get used to it. regarding sys-updates: you can do that manually - but out of the box ubuntu should notify you aswell
[08:46] <BriteLeaf> lemme find the line I got the info from... maybe that will help you understand what I mean
[08:46] <Tradie> Boot sequence is fine. I've done this all before a billion times. This is the first time I've needed any help ill try USB when I get home
[08:47] <sacarlson> Tradie: only other option I can think of off the top of my head is pxe boot,  but I think that might be over your head and my not have the resources
[08:47] <HeliusCron> anything else since i have no idea where to look for what you are talking about
[08:48] <sacarlson> tradie: or if you have a bootable linux hard drive you can also setup grub2 to boot an iso file
[08:48] <Tradie> Nah I don't anymore
[08:50]  * almoxarife installed wubi ubuntu on the oldladies lappy long ago, it works, it's a friken 'dell' for the love of god, so, wubi issue are human error ( my humble opinion)
[08:51] <Tradie> Well I hate wubi. You can't blame people for its mistakes. It's to simple to blame it on human error
[08:52] <cuki> almoxarife, that`s a portuguese word, isn`t?
[08:52] <carlos_> hello
[08:52] <sacarlson> Tradie: when all those bootloaders fails you can also try plop that can enable booting from anything else http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager/index.html
[08:52] <almoxarife> cuki: e uma praia, sim
[08:52] <carlos_> alguien de andalucia
[08:53] <almoxarife> !en
[08:53] <sacarlson> tradie: when all those fail I'll give you 10 more methods to try
[08:53] <cuki> pq um nick de pea de fabrica almoxarife, desculpe a piada
[08:53] <cuki> *peao
[08:53] <Tradie> There's no trouble with booting -_- I even know how to edit the bootloader if I need
[08:53] <Myrtti> !pt | cuki
[08:53] <almoxarife> cuki: pm se faz favor
[08:54] <carlos_> en ezpañol
[08:54] <Tradie> It's just ububtu can't find the installation.ISO in the /ububtu/install/ folder, but I know for a fact it is there
[08:55] <Dragin> llutz, this is BriteLeaf.... Here is the instruction I am going by... f you want it to run automatically when the machine is booted, then
[08:55] <Dragin> place the following script in your startup directory. (/etc/init.d/rcX.d
[08:55] <Dragin> or /sbin/init.d/rcX.d or ???)
[08:56] <llutz_> Dragin: install the package from repos, and it will be setup automatically
[08:56] <Dragin> but when I try to modify that file, it says I don't have permission... Even at root lol So I am trying to give myself permission
[08:56] <llutz_> Dragin: since ubuntu uses upstart, the runlevel-handling has changed. better to ignore all those old "non-debian/ubuntu" manuals
[08:57] <llutz_> Dragin: you misread it. it refers to sysV-init-scripts in /etc7rcX.d (debian-way), NOT hte /etc7init
[08:57] <Dragin> will it give me the latest? (i.e. TS3)?
[08:57] <llutz_> xxxx /etc/init.d/rc
[08:57] <llutz_> Dragin: what is ts3?
[08:58] <Dragin> TeamSpeak 3
[08:58] <llutz_> Dragin: how is that related to noip?
[08:59] <Dragin> Again, I am using no-ip to work with TS due to the fact that I don't have static ip, and I want to run a ts server
[09:00] <llutz_> Dragin: i  don't even know exactlywht teamspeak is/does. if you need something to be run at startup which is not in the repos, use /etc/rc.local. your noip-configuration is done via the noip2-package
[09:00] <Dragin> so then I can do an update and get no-ip?
[09:01] <llutz_> Dragin: sudo apt-get install noip2
[09:01] <Dragin> ok
[09:01] <Dragin> thanks
[09:02] <Wingede> Dragin, download teamspeak, unarchive it, it will have a config file somewhere to set server passwords, admin password - then edit /etc/rc.local to start the ts server on startup
[09:03] <Dragin> oh, ok. the rc got me. thanks Wing
[09:06] <virtx> hi
[09:06] <tegra> hi
[09:06] <songxk_> What will u ask
[09:07] <virtx> is there a good and complete guide for "ubuntu server sysadmin" ?
[09:07] <Marzatta> virtx: a very good question.
[09:07] <tegra> https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/index.html
[09:07] <virtx> it's not so complete...
[09:07] <Marzatta> tegra: 8.04? 4 years ago?
[09:07] <songxk_> u want some info about how to use ubuntu-server?
[09:08] <virtx> no, how manage, hardening, etc..
[09:08] <songxk_> that is about it
[09:08] <tegra> https://help.ubuntu.com/11.10/serverguide/C/index.html
[09:08] <tegra> sorry
[09:08] <tegra> :)
[09:08] <fidel> virtx: how would you define "complete" at that topic?
[09:08] <songxk_> waht
[09:09] <fidel> just wondering
[09:09] <songxk_> wordering?
[09:09] <virtx> ok, so where landscape-sysinfo update motd? i can't see nothing in cron
[09:10] <Wingede> night all
[09:11] <songxk_> it is just afternoon in China
[09:11] <tegra> what is the most used ubuntu atm ?
[09:11] <tegra> 32 or 64 bit ?
[09:12] <songxk_> what is CTCP time
[09:12] <BlueWolf> Hi, When I try to install a program through my Ubuntu software center it keeps coming up with this error: "Requires installation of untrusted packages - The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources." What does this mean and how do I fix it?
[09:13] <Cybersonic> 32 bit, but I think with 12.04 64 bit will become more used
[09:13] <songxk_> why do u think so
[09:13] <llutz_> BlueWolf: seems you have enabled some repos (ppa?) but not imported the repo-keys
[09:14] <BlueWolf> llutz_: Sorry in english? How would I go about that? :D
[09:15] <fidel> tegra: are you really wondering about the percentage between 32 and 64bit - or what you should use yourself?
[09:15] <tegra> fidel, just a question :)
[09:16] <tegra> i think 32 bit most used..
[09:16] <metaspike> it's hard to say tegra, seeing user statistic reports aren't mandatory :)
[09:17] <metaspike> usage* reports
[09:17] <tegra> torrent iso report ubuntu i386 most downloaded
[09:18] <BlueWolf> llutz_: :D ?
[09:20] <Zipper_32> I'm trying to make a USB install of Ubuntu which is customized, and no longer persistent. I currently have an iso "installed" onto the USB key (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent), and have made some changes to the OS. These changes are persistent, but I want to now make the file system read-only. Could somebody point me in a direction of where to start?
[09:20] <llutz_> BlueWolf: sudo apt-get update,   it'll give you the missing key. use "sudo apt-key adv .... <that-key>" to import it.
[09:20] <BlueWolf> llutz_: Ok I will give it a try now - :D
[09:21] <metaspike> Zipper_32, it's possible that some flag is passed to the kernel via grub or whatever which says it should be persistant, if you remove that, then it should become read online
[09:22] <metaspike> read only*
[09:23] <metaspike> likewise you could just define the primary drive readonly with fstab, put /tmp into a tmpfs etc.. dunno
[09:23] <sacarlson> Zipper_32: there are many ways to create custom iso boots this is just one of them http://www.ubuntugeek.com/creating-custom-ubuntu-live-cd-with-remastersys.html
[09:24] <BlueWolf> llutz_: E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead. And Now?
[09:24] <Zipper_32> Thanks metaspike, I'll look into the fstab option.
[09:24] <Zipper_32> sacarlson: Thanks, I'll take a look there.
[09:24] <BlueWolf> llutz_: W: GPG error: http://zw.archive.ubuntu.com lucid Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[09:24] <BlueWolf> W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-security/universe/source/Sources.bz2  Sub-process /bin/bzip2 returned an error code (2)
[09:25] <sacarlson> BlueWolf: it might be you need to sudo apt-get update;
[09:26] <scientes> BlueWolf, and if apt-get update doesn't work, try apt-get install ubuntu-archive-keyring
[09:26] <scientes> and maybe put a --reinstall in there for good measure
[09:26] <BlueWolf> sacarlson: That's the error from doing sudo apt-get update
[09:26] <sacarlson> BlueWolf: I think scientes is more correct try that first
[09:26] <BlueWolf> 	
[09:26] <BlueWolf> scientes: Trying
[09:27] <BlueWolf> scientes: Reading package lists... Done
[09:27] <BlueWolf> Building dependency tree
[09:27] <scientes> the bzip error however makes me wonder
[09:27] <BlueWolf> Reading state information... Done
[09:27] <BlueWolf> E: Couldn't find package ubuntu-archive-keyring
[09:28] <scientes> debian-archive-keyring
[09:28] <scientes> sorry
[09:28] <scientes> nope
[09:28] <scientes> thats not it either
[09:28] <FloodBot1> scientes: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:28] <scientes> just try the apt-get update
[09:29] <scientes> wait, the package is ubuntu-keyring <--
[09:30] <songxk_> sudo apt-get  update
[09:30] <hareeshlakshmina> Hi
[09:31] <sacarlson> scientes: BlueWolf:  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-keyring; apt-get install ubuntu-extras-keyring;   but he might  also try another repository host like us..
[09:31] <scientes> well, there was that bzip2 error, which makes me wonder
[09:32] <hareeshlakshmina> Can anyone suggest a good linux distro for my macbook pro 8,1 ?
[09:32] <BlueWolf> scientes: songxk_: sacarlson: I have tried that all. And I have posted the errors, anything else?
[09:32]  * scientes isn't a fan of bzip2...but OOM is unlikely
[09:32] <foobArrr> I sometimes have problems after resuming from hibernation: A lot of UI elements are not clickable, awn dock for example. It keeps displaying stuff (cpu indicator) fine, however. Running stuff via alt+f2 doesn't work. I can type in open terminals, as soon as I press enter, nothing happens anymore. If I try to use tab completion, nothing happens anymore. I can't login via ssh, it asks for the password, then nothing happens anymore. Switching to text mod
[09:32] <foobArrr> e terminals (Alt+f1/f2/..., how are they called?) doesn't work. After a few minutes even the mouse cursor freezes. How do I fix this? What logs should I look at? Who do I blame? (Ubuntu 11.10 64bit)
[09:32] <scientes> FooBarMartijn, are you using nvidia or intel or AMD?
[09:32] <sacarlson> BlueWolf: change the repository host  in synaptic to another location  like usa  or japan or ??
[09:32] <scientes> FooBarMartijn, and which driver?
[09:33] <scientes> zw? whats zw? country code
[09:34] <sacarlson> scientes: zimbobway?
[09:34] <chinosuke> I've nfs mount point define in /etc/fstab. How to prevent the system mount nfs at the boot up time?
[09:34] <BlueWolf> sacarlson: zimbobway?
[09:35] <BriteLeaf> How do I kill a process that is in use?
[09:35] <sacarlson> chinossuke  wow I cant' type that fast
[09:36] <FooBarMartijn> scientes, I'm using nvidia blob 173-updates, which is working fine, but I don't think that information is going to help FoobArrr
[09:36] <sacarlson> BriteLeaf:  killall procname
[09:36] <BriteLeaf> thanks
[09:36] <foobArrr> scientes: you meant me? intel
[09:36] <chinosuke> i've define nfs mount point defined in /etc/fstab. How do i prevent system from mounting nfs source when starting up the system?
[09:37] <foobArrr> k, you didn't, nevermind
[09:37] <sacarlson> chinosuke: take it out of /etc/fstab
[09:38] <sacarlson> chinosuke:  oh I think there is another way like add noauto
[09:38] <Zta> Have I misunderstood something about file name sorting?  Can anyone please explain this to me:  http://pastebin.com/kGYcJDS1
[09:38] <chinosuke> sacarlson: is there another without chaning /etc/fstab?
[09:39] <sacarlson> chinosuke: well I guess if you force the server to be offline it will also not mount,  but on the client side the /etc/fstab would have to be modified
[09:39] <chinosuke> previous i run gentoo and it has a netmount. so i disable this from default runlevel nfs will ot mount at startup.
[09:40] <sacarlson> chinosuke: there might be some tricks on services start that would also work
[09:40] <BriteLeaf> keeps saying no process found, but it still won't let me reinstall it because that file (that isn't there according to the OS) is still in use :/
[09:41] <chinosuke> sacarlson: that is what i'm expecting "some service" :)
[09:43] <sacarlson> chinosuke: but seems easier to just disable auto mount with noauto in the line of /etc/fstab as seen http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html
[09:44] <sacarlson> chinosuke: in eather case you would require root access to change it
[09:46] <chinosuke> sacarlson: i've like 20+ nfs mount point so just lazy to editing the file :)
[09:49] <sacarlson> chinosuke: we have some fancy features in editors called find and replace all
[09:49] <sacarlson> chinosuke: I know nothing of the services that need to change to disable it
[09:51] <chinosuke> sacarlson: thanks anyway! but find and replace method need more attention if i enter the wrong term.
[09:51] <sacarlson> chinosuke: that's what backups are for
[09:52] <sacarlson> chinosuke: in the time we chated I could have already mannualy edited the 20 lines
[09:52] <metaspike> BriteLeaf, install htop, it's great
[09:52] <metaspike> it's always better to kill processes with their internal exit commands though
[09:54] <chinosuke> sacarlson: I done that before : find and replace and backup. just need a quick trick disable the service for the future usage.
[09:57] <allenyk> hello
[09:59] <YourZombie> Hello everyone
[10:00] <u4ia> Hello all.  I'm looking for a bare bones linux distro to compile VMWare.  Anybody have any recommendations?
[10:00] <YourZombie> what are you looking to use it for
[10:02] <u4ia> Just has a host os for VmWare Workstation
[10:04] <Lantizia> u4ia, why bare bones?  if it's just for virtualization only - use esxi 5
[10:04] <u4ia> no other real function otherwise.  Simple gui, good hardware support, running on a 32bit machine.
[10:04] <u4ia> Direct X.
[10:05] <u4ia> ESX doesn't do OpenGL or DirectX.
[10:05] <Lantizia> u4ia, workstation doesn't do directx either - just converts to opengl - don't build your hopes up on how good that it
[10:05] <Lantizia> *is
[10:06] <u4ia> I've used XP as a host and it works fine.  Even used WineD3D just fine.
[10:07] <u4ia> So it's functional at least, vs not at all with ESXi/ESX.
[10:08] <u4ia> I use Vsphere on my 64bit machines and directX and OpenGL work flawlessly.
[10:09] <u4ia> But it leaves 32bit archs out in the cold, so host/VMWare works.  Just trying to find the right flavor of linux.
[10:11] <BriteLeaf> sudo apt-get install no-ip2 will get me no-ip and install it, right?
[10:11] <u4ia> I'm thinking CrunchBang might do the trick, just looking for other possible recommendations for a VMWare host.
[10:12] <dman420> ive got a couple real noob questions are they allowed here?
[10:12] <u4ia> dman420: I would hope so.
[10:12] <RedBunny> only if you pass the j
[10:12] <dman420> lmao
[10:12] <Anomie21> Getting an error 'Error splicing file: File too large' when trying to move a 6.7GB file onto a 16GB drive
[10:12] <BriteLeaf> NO!!!
[10:12] <BriteLeaf> lol
[10:13] <tegra> why precise use kernel 3.2.12 and not 3.2.13 ?
[10:13] <u4ia> Um, what filesystem?
[10:13] <u4ia> on the 16GB drive?
[10:13] <RedBunny> how do i add a folder to the left side of my file explorer ,... under the computer heading ,.. i want to add my Websites folder
[10:14] <Anomie21> u4ia: vfat It stops after 4.3GB
[10:14] <dman420> ok my first question is. when you do a command like cat blahblah > test.txt now what is that > called? like there is other options you can use like && and >> and | i know is used to pipe. what im looking for is maybe a tutorial or some more explanations on what all options i can use and what they are called in general
[10:14] <VCoolio> RedBunny: drag and drop?
[10:14] <RedBunny> no it dosent stay
[10:14] <imachine> hello
[10:15] <RedBunny> check out O'Riellys linux ,.... too
[10:15] <RedBunny> for learning ,..... im sure their new but i read a RedHat7.3 years ago
[10:16] <imachine> I've moved to TWM as my default window manager
[10:16] <u4ia> Anomie: Sounds like your FS has a 4GB file limit.  Try using a different filesystem, or break the files into 4GB (2^12 bytes) chunks
[10:16] <imachine> I'd like to know how I can enable sound
[10:16] <imachine> I've installed pavucontrol, for pulseaudio volume control, but no luck - it doesn't show devices.
[10:16] <Anomie21> u4ia: Yeah, I just seen on google.
[10:16] <imachine> maybe I'm missing some daemons?
[10:16] <VCoolio> !abs | dman420
[10:16] <Anomie21> u4ia: I need to use this drive on a mac though so I suppose splitting it is my only option
[10:17] <u4ia> Anomie: NTFS is fairly universal.
[10:17] <Anomie21> Is there a way to do that without a 3rd party app?
[10:17] <u4ia> Anomie: You could try Fat32 of course.
[10:17] <RedBunny> raster man
[10:18] <RedBunny> i used to be such a rasta fanatic
[10:18] <RedBunny> er' reiser
[10:18] <VCoolio> dman420: for > | etc, like output redirection, check http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/special-chars.html
[10:18] <geirha> VCoolio: !abs in #bash says almost the complete opposite
[10:19] <VCoolio> geirha: I know, but I like this one, but I see the point
[10:19] <geirha> ABS is a terrible guide for beginners, as you have to know how to filter out the good parts from the buggy parts.
[10:19] <imachine> abs saves lives
[10:19] <imachine> but you still need to take care of your suspension in general
[10:20] <imachine> also, tyres are important
[10:20] <imachine> so, how about my pulseaudio issue?
[10:20] <imachine> any ideas anyone?
[10:21] <Marzatta> is ubuntu 12.04 still with the unity misunderstanding?
[10:22] <dman420> im having a little bit of trouble understanding that website coolio. what is the name for the different kind of options like & > | . i know like when you do a command then - symbol thats called an "option" what would those above be called? output redirection? ill start googlin that
[10:22] <sacarlson> imachine: I suck at sound but did you try gnome-alsamixer ?
[10:22] <VCoolio> dman420: so complare tldp.org to http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide, not everyone likes abs
[10:22] <imachine> sacarlson, i did not
[10:23] <u4ia> I just go with Lubuntu and install Gnome.
[10:23] <imachine> sacarlson, but I think it maybe to do with the lack of pulse audio daemons on my client side
[10:23] <imachine> I really wann go minimal
[10:23] <imachine> so I try not to run all daemons
[10:23] <dman420> oh that website did the trick coolio thanks!!
[10:23] <imachine> just plain twm with a config
[10:23] <imachine> and the least possible clutter in the background.
[10:24] <Marzatta> u4ia: what?
[10:24] <imachine> it looks so nice at the moment, I need not more - with nvidia's virtual desktop at 4096x2400
[10:24] <imachine> I just happen to like music to ;p
[10:25] <imachine> I could just throw out the pulseaudio thing in general, i don't think I need it at all
[10:25] <imachine> I could use mp3blaster directly, but it says it can't find a mixer device.
[10:26] <sacarlson> imachine: I guess it's dependant on the application some apps may require pulseaudio to work at all maybe some don't,  if you like music it's best not to mess with the sound infrastructure
[10:27] <imachine> sacarlson, I can use padsp or directly address /dev/mixer
[10:27] <imachine> but /dev/mixer is not there
[10:27] <imachine> so I can use pa, but it doesn't work, for some reason.
[10:27] <YourZombie> exploit/unix/webapp/php_vbulletin_template <~~ can anyone further help with what to do after i successfully completed this exploit on my server?
[10:27] <imachine> I'll debug...
[10:27] <sacarlson> imachine: oh it could be that the user doesn't have priv on mixer
[10:27] <u4ia> Marzatta: what what?
[10:28] <imachine> sacarlson, no
[10:28] <RedBunny> i have a 1.5 tb hd from my win install that holds movies & music ,... how do i change the permissions to be able to back up to there ,...?
[10:28] <imachine> there's no mixer because there is pulseaudio
[10:28] <sacarlson> imachine: make sure that your user is a part of sound in user groups
[10:28] <sacarlson> imachine: or there's no mixer because there is no alsa
[10:28] <angs> is there any webpage that I can find linux drivers? Specificly I am looking for a driver of a usb wireless adaptor
[10:28] <imachine> sacarlson, there are devices under /dev/snd/
[10:29] <imachine> sacarlson, sq, timer, pcm devices,
[10:29] <Marzatta> u4ia: lubuntu + gnome?
[10:29] <sacarlson> imachine: did sound work from the livecd ?
[10:29] <u4ia> Marzatta: Yeah, LXDE and Gnome.  Beats Unity.
[10:30] <imachine> sacarlson, sound works in unity
[10:30] <imachine> sacarlson, but i run twm
[10:30] <imachine> I recon some daemons don't start
[10:30] <imachine> and permissions aren't granted
[10:30] <Marzatta> u4ia: Xfce beets all together.
[10:31] <sacarlson> imachine: yes as I said check your user to see what groups it belongs to
[10:31] <sacarlson> imachine: are you using the same user in unity as in twm?
[10:31] <imachine> well in group audio user pulse
[10:31] <imachine> so i recon user pulse is the user pulseaudio daemon runs at
[10:31] <imachine> now I only need to connect to that daemon
[10:31] <imachine> so prolly start some daemon with my .xinitrc
[10:32] <imachine> nvm
[10:32] <imachine> i'll sort it prolly
[10:32] <goddard> why do my toolbar icons disappear
[10:32] <u4ia> Marzatta: Well, the point being, avoiding unity and still having the option for a lightweight windows manager and a full DE and avoiding Unity all together.
[10:33] <u4ia> But whatever flavor of gui makes you happy.
[10:34] <Marzatta> u4ia: Xfce is the best. Xubuntu is much greater than Lubuntu.
[10:34] <u4ia> Marzatta: Whatever makes you happy.
[10:35] <u4ia> LXDE works fine for my needs when I need it.  Normally I just use Gnome 3 classic on the desktop.
[10:35] <Marzatta> u4ia: agree.
[10:36] <imachine> sacarlson, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/consolekit/+bug/483130/comments/16
[10:36] <imachine> sacarlson, here's a fix
[10:36] <imachine> for future reference ;)
[10:38] <sacarlson> imachine: I'm not sure how that has anything to do with sound
[10:43] <nullcall> hi i have problem to booting my ubuntu 11.04
[10:44] <slackin__> nullcall, I have problems booting my Apple IIe
[10:44] <slackin__> :p
[10:44] <Myrtti> slackin__: when helping, be helpful...
[10:44] <Myrtti> !ask | nullcall
[10:44] <nullcall> its asking after grup load karnel module
[10:44] <slackin__> Myrtti, I'm just joking. I dont know ubuntu very well
[10:45] <A|i3N> 10.04 ... fresh install with updates. Flash installed. Fox.com videos are laggy as hell - is there a codec i need to install?
[10:45] <nullcall> slackin_ : plz if i dont start then i lost my too much data
[10:45] <slackin__> A|i3N, make sure your  using closed source adobe flash not that foss JUNK
[10:46] <A|i3N> slackin_ I installed off of the repository
[10:47] <A|i3N> slackin__ I installed off of the repository
[10:48] <nullcall> when i got error after grub "load karnel module" i booth with ubuntu live cd then user "fdisk -l" but i cant find my disk ???? there plz and even i cant install fresh copy in the system....
[10:48] <u4ia> nullcall: bootup with a live CD, backup, reinstall...  Consider trying VirtualBox or VMWare, so you can easily make safe save points and recover from problems.  Also makes backups easy.
[10:48] <u4ia> (or live USB)
[10:48] <slackin__> A|i3N, im not totally sure but like 'apt-get install adobe-flash'
[10:49] <u4ia> Not sure what this "karnel" module is...
[10:49] <A|i3N> slacking__ yea that would be the equiv. of what ubuntu software center would install.
[10:49] <u4ia> sounds like you might need to reinstall grub from a rescue CD.
[10:49] <nullcall> u4ia: i had bootup system with live cd but i cant fine my hdd partion
[10:50] <NET||abuse> we're having awful trouble here
[10:50] <u4ia> look under /media/sda1 most likely
[10:50] <NET||abuse> we have a virtual machine running on kvm, ubuntu host and ubuntu guest
[10:50] <A|i3N> any other takers? laggy flash vids.
[10:50] <NET||abuse> we noticed that ssh tunnel persistence was failing
[10:50] <newb2> After some upgrades, my pendrive autodetection stopped working. Hal is installed, how can I proceed?
[10:51] <nullcall> u4ia: there is nothing in /media
[10:51] <u4ia> nutcall: if you're using ubuntu live CD, try using the disk utility.
[10:51] <NET||abuse> we have a pari of remote servers that use upstart respawning ssh tunnels backi to our server for pipiing snmp and other zabbix traffic back
[10:51] <slackin__> A|i3N, well there is a foss flash that is like 'swf player' or something that runs terrible
[10:51] <NET||abuse> but the ssh tunnels are dropping, now we login on the local network with ssh, and they are also really unstable.
[10:51] <slackin__> A|i3N, make sure your using adobe-flash not swf-player or whatever
[10:51] <NET||abuse> it's not looking like it's lasting more than a few minutes
[10:52] <nullcall> u4ia : tx i'll try that
[10:52] <A|i3N> slackin__ I used the flash player plugin, as far as I know, but I'll double check.
[10:52] <u4ia> nullcall: the disk utility should make it easy to find and let you mount your hard drive so you can do your backups.
[10:52] <NET||abuse> we threw 3 new cpu's onto it to check incase it's too bysy
[10:52] <NET||abuse> still getting dropped connections.
[10:52] <slackin__> A|i3N, if you just installed 'flash player plugin', in some distros, it defaults to swf-player
[10:52] <slackin__> A|i3N, due to legal liscencing reasons
[10:54] <NET||abuse> yeh, just got disconnected again.
[10:54] <NET||abuse> console just drops out saying write failed: Broken pipe
[10:54] <NET||abuse> i'm not leaving the console idle either, i'm working awya, trying to work on the layout of some files on that machine.
[10:55] <NET||abuse> it even drops my screen session
[10:55] <A|i3N> slackin__ you might be right - I tried apt get adobe-flash - it tabbed completed it but did not find it. I'm using 10.04LTS freshly installed.
[10:55] <virtx> is there a grsecurity kernel
[10:55] <virtx> ?
[10:55] <NET||abuse> so i can't re-attach to the screen session i open
[10:56] <A|i3N> slackin__ where can I get the real one? Do I need to install restricted extras?
[10:57] <slackin__> A|i3N, yea, it probably is restricted due to license
[10:57] <slackin__> A|i3N, i barely use ubuntu, but im a long term linux user
[10:57] <slackin__> im not dead sure about how ubuntu does it
[10:58] <MonkeyDust> same here, unable to play flash movies, even after disabling gnash
[10:58] <u4ia> pretty much the same as Debian, I thought.
[10:58] <A|i3N> slackin__ OK thanks I'll try the normal crap I would install lol, ubuntu restricted extras being one of them, maybe it'll have a codec that will help flash player out
[10:58] <airstrike> hi. for some reason, sshing into a shell, running screen and typing C-a c to create a new screen actually kills the ssh connection as well as creating the screen
[10:58] <airstrike> what can i do about that?
[10:59] <fenix> what drivers should i use for nvidia 6600go ?
[10:59] <MonkeyDust> airstrike  i'm here over ssh, using screen myself, let me look into it
[11:00] <slackin__> good night everyone! ttyl!
[11:00] <fenix> tried the latest nvidia drivers and x wont load
[11:00] <goddard> im surprised Gnash has gotten better
[11:00] <MonkeyDust> airstrike  I use byobu, it's a shell around screen, try that
[11:00] <A|i3N> slackin__ I'm on a netbook that runs quake live really good but seems to choke on a flash video so I got something wrong in the software lol
[11:01] <airstrike> hrm
[11:01] <airstrike> i will
[11:01] <airstrike> i'm heading off for work right now so i can't install byobu atm, but i'll try that next week
[11:02] <fenix> not a soul knows?
[11:02] <s0u][ight> hello, this is offtopic, but is there anyone who can speak spanish who is willing to read and check a summary of a book for grammar/spelling mistakes?
[11:02] <MonkeyDust> !es
[11:03] <drecute> does ubuntu support remote graphical linux desktop access out-of-the-box?
[11:04] <MonkeyDust> drecute  there's tight vnc
[11:04] <drecute> i don't want vnc
[11:04] <drecute> i want X11
[11:04] <A|i3N> drecute: no. U gotta install a couple packages first
[11:04] <LjL> what packages?
[11:04] <fenix> Anyone have ideas what driver to use for nvidia 6600go ?
[11:04] <LjL> i thought it was a matter of configuring X
[11:04] <drecute> gmd, xephyr
[11:05] <drecute> s/gmd/gdm
[11:05] <drecute> are there ubuntu packages for this?
[11:06] <A|i3N> LjL: sorry - yes, it does. System -> Preferences -> remote desktop
[11:06] <truexfan81> anyone on here familiar with capture cards?
[11:07] <truexfan81> i'm trying to find one with component input that is compatible with ubuntu
[11:08] <drecute> A|i3N: I think that's just one step
[11:08] <u4ia> true: I think most hauppague video capture cards have been historically very compatible.
[11:10] <drecute> A|i3N: there are other steps which are required to have ubuntu inside xephyr
[11:10] <A|i3N> drecute: if both systems are running ubuntu then it shouldn't be a prob but you'll have to install an ssh server. Hang I'll try to tell you what it is
[11:10] <drecute> there's more to it
[11:10] <drecute> i'm virtualizing from solaris using xephyr display
[11:11] <nullcall> u4ia: i got my partion by disk utility but i cant mount that its take aprox 20 min but no respose
[11:11] <drecute> so I guess there should be support for this on ubuntu
[11:12] <A|i3N> ok Im experiencing irc fukedmymind syndrome. I was trying to answer LjL lol
[11:12] <MonkeyDust> !brainstorm| drecute
[11:12] <u4ia> nullcall: drive crash perhaps?
[11:13] <fenix> Anyone have ideas what driver to use for nvidia 6600go ?
[11:13] <u4ia> nullcall: I'd turn the computer off for a few hours, let it chill for a bit then try again, booting from a live CD/USB...
[11:13] <u4ia> fenis: Check Nvida's support website.
[11:13] <u4ia> fenix even.
[11:14] <nikita> joined
[11:14] <sacarlson> drecute: ya sounds like you just run ssh -X host;  run gui app ;  and it will be displayed on your remote
[11:15] <fenix> u4ia, issue is that there are no menu listed for notebooks 6series gpu
[11:15] <nullcall> hi sacarlson: hru
[11:15] <ledmobile> ddd
[11:17] <u4ia> fenix: I would think they would have unified drivers for that class of video cards.
[11:17] <drecute> no
[11:17] <fenix> u4ia, checking supported models the go series are not listed in 6600
[11:17] <fenix> 6*
[11:17] <fenix> u4ia, i tried latest nvidia drivers from ubuntu rep and x would not load....
[11:18] <u4ia> fenix: so you probably won't find a driver specifically made for your video chipset, but one that covers the whole 6xxx class.
[11:18] <fenix> and nouevou drivers are crappy
[11:18] <drecute> it won't work without xephyr
[11:18] <drecute> it is called multiple nested X sessions
[11:18] <fenix> u4ia, yes but doesnt the latest nvidia driver from ubuntu rep already support whole 6series?
[11:19] <u4ia> fenix: http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html
[11:19] <u4ia> fenix: I don't think so.
[11:20] <u4ia> Since Nvidia drivers aren't "free" or opensources, they wouldn't be in the distro or the repositories.
[11:20] <u4ia> Ubuntu would just use generic VESA.
[11:20] <fenix> u4ia, http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-295.33-driver.html
[11:20] <fenix> seems lite the latest one covers 6series
[11:20] <fenix> like*
[11:21] <u4ia> Well give those a shot.  :)
[11:21] <fenix> i tried latest from ubuntu rep and all i got was input/output error when loading c
[11:21] <fenix> x*
[11:22] <u4ia> so don't rely on the ubuntu repositories for your Nvidia drivers.  Nvidia is pretty good about providing drivers for Linux.
[11:22] <fenix> good yes but installing with their script is crappy
[11:22] <u4ia> Whatever you gotta to to get it working, eh?
[11:29] <Ruudjah> Just checking: moments ago, I submitted a bug to launchpad.net. I wanted to make sure launchpad.net is from ubuntu, and not some scammer site?
[11:30] <gwelter> !launchpad | ruudjah
[11:32] <Ruudjah> thanks. This was not entirely clear.
[11:32] <Sungrazer> n #securityonion
[11:32] <Sungrazer> oops :S
[11:35] <SlimG_> What is the name of the binary behind "Startup Disk Creator" ?
[11:35] <SlimG_> I need to kill it
[11:36] <MonkeyDust> SlimG_  type ps -e to find out
[11:37] <curiousx> ciao a tutti
[11:37] <SlimG_> MonkeyDust: 279 pid names, that does not help
[11:37] <VictorCL> hi , I have trouble with .rar files
[11:37] <VictorCL> everytime I try to uncompress them , I get a lots of errors
[11:38] <VictorCL> so then I h ave to go to virtualbox and open windows 7 just to use winrar ...
[11:38] <VictorCL> is pretty annoying
[11:38] <MonkeyDust> SlimG_  try ps -e|less to scroll through the list, find a name that look relevant
[11:39] <curiousx> VictorCL: sudo apt-get -y install rar unace p7zip-full p7zip-rar sharutils mpack lha arj ubuntu-restricted-extras
[11:39] <SlimG_> VictorCL: Install p7zip-rar or unrar
[11:39] <VictorCL> maybe .. can I use winrar on wine?
[11:39] <SlimG_> VictorCL: No need to use wine
[11:39] <VictorCL> I tried , unrar , untar ...
[11:39] <curiousx> VictorCL: try: rar x
[11:40] <jessie> i created a bootable usb ti install ubuntu 11.10 but it s not booting som one suggested to change the booting order but i don know how to n what to change
[11:40] <VictorCL> rarx is a nother program?
[11:40] <curiousx> yep
[11:40] <curiousx> but separately: rar x
[11:40] <curiousx> "x" extract
[11:40] <soulnafein> I'm experience very sluggish graphical performance in my Ubuntu 11.10 installation. Can anyone suggest me what data to collect in order to identify the cause of it? So far the only thing I've noticed is X Server CPU Utilisation spiking when scrolling in chrome or accessing dash.
[11:40] <VictorCL> sudo apt-get  "rar x"   ?
[11:41] <sacarlson> jessie: http://pcsupport.about.com/od/fixtheproblem/ss/bootorderchange.htm
[11:41] <curiousx> VictorCL: if you are using ubuntu 11.10 only do double click on the archive and then hit "extract" button
[11:42] <sacarlson> jessie: other things to note http://pcsupport.about.com/od/tipstricks/ht/bootusbflash.htm
[11:42] <VictorCL> curiousx,  it will only extract folders and some files
[11:42] <VictorCL> not all of them
[11:42] <T-b0n3> SlimG_, were you able to find it?
[11:42] <SlimG_> T-b0n3: usb-creator-gtk
[11:42] <bilal_> what is internet downloder name in ubuntu window
[11:42] <T-b0n3> SlimG_, cool ;)
[11:42] <curiousx> VictorCL: sudo apt-get -y install rar unace p7zip-full p7zip-rar sharutils mpack lha arj ubuntu-restricted-extras
[11:43] <jessie> sacarlson:boss what to change over thier
[11:43] <VictorCL> ok
[11:43] <soulnafein> some stats: http://pastie.org/3697334
[11:43] <sacarlson> jessie: I can't write it any better than they did
[11:44] <jessie> sacarlson: i will go thru it
[11:44] <sacarlson> jessie: also you saying it doesn't boot give us very little info to deal with
[11:44] <SlimG_> VictorCL: It sounds like you should not use command-line just yet, how about just using your packagemanagement application to find the package called unrar and install it, then your archivingapplication should get support for all .rar files
[11:45] <VictorCL> when is ubuntu 12 coming up?
[11:45] <sacarlson> jessie: not booting?  do you see a black screen in boot?  does it boot something else other than ubuntu?   does it give any error messages
[11:45] <curiousx> VictorCL: in 27 days
[11:45] <VictorCL> :o
[11:45] <VictorCL> then I will wait to update
[11:46] <VictorCL> will you be able to remove the huge icons theme from the left bar?
[11:46] <jessie> sacarlson:i created bootable usb thru startup disk finally it said for installing ubuntu in any desktps u insert this stick but wen i did it didt booted
[11:46] <VictorCL> I want the old one
[11:46] <sacarlson> jessie: didn't boot?  if not boot what did it do?
[11:47] <jessie> sacarlson:WENT to same old OS
[11:48] <sacarlson> jessie: ok then you need to setup bios as shown above
[11:48] <jessie> sacarlson :sure im going thru it
[11:49] <sacarlson> jessie: ok and all bios are different so you might have to explore the bios options
[11:49] <curiousx> VictorCL: http://190.177.158.162/banner.html
[11:49] <eno_> Hello,I am newbie of ubuntu cloud,How can I find documents in the web site?I can't find it = =
[11:52] <curiousx> eno_: ubuntu cloud or ubuntuone?
[11:53] <jessie> sacarlson: u r from which country
[11:53] <eno_> the cloud.....when I install the server CD-ROM
[11:53] <eno_> Hong Kong
[11:53] <curiousx> sry idk about it
[11:54] <sacarlson> jessie: I'm from Hawaii USA,  but now reside in Thailand,  English is my first and only language
[11:54] <jessie> sacarlson:good what do u do
[11:55] <sacarlson> jessie: this is not a chat site
[11:55] <curiousx> !ot =P
[11:55] <jessie> sacarlson:sorry
[11:56] <eno_> What cloud can do?Are the cloud = clustering?
[11:57] <u4ia> more like distributed data.
[11:58] <u4ia> decentralized data stored throughout a wide area network.
[11:59] <eno_> so, if I want to do clustering, I don't need cloud ,right?
[12:00] <u4ia> a lot of people make the mistake of labeling access to their online content "cloud computing" or "cloud storage," when it's really just available online.
[12:01] <u4ia> no, you don't need a "cloud" to do "clustering" or distributed tasks.
[12:01] <eno_>  May I know what cloud computing do?
[12:02] <u4ia> eno: Try google or wikipedia for more information.
[12:02] <eno_> thx
[12:04] <alogic> Using Gnome with Ubuntu 10.04. How do i make sure Sleep keyboard key is not used for activating Sleep mode? I have reassigned it to Lock Screen in keyboard config, but it only works till next reboot.
[12:04] <eno_> you want to disable the sleep key ?
[12:05] <alogic> i want it to lock the screen
[12:05] <u4ia> "cloud computing" is access to data and "applications" online where the content is distributed/decentralized across multiple resources and accessed over a network.
[12:05] <alogic> but upon reboot, the layout change i made is discarded, pressing the key has the Sleep Mode effect again
[12:05] <u4ia> VMWare VSphere is a good example of cloud computing.
[12:06] <tegra> i want to upgrade all packages of ubuntu can i do that ?
[12:06] <bruno_> hi
[12:06] <MonkeyDust> tegra  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:06] <alogic> tegra: sudo apt-get update , then sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:06] <tegra> there is an unstable version ?
[12:06] <bazhang> tegra, sudo apt-get update  sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:06] <bazhang> tegra, development version in #ubuntu+1
[12:07] <tegra> ok thanks
[12:07] <eno_> Oh,the Vsphere......I know that
[12:07] <Hans_Henrik> Rebooted twice now, and it still say this when starting up: *** /dev/sdb1 will be checked for errors at next reboot ***            how to NOT make it check the disk for errors each time the computer restart?   (btw i have no physical access to it, only via ssh, so i dont really know if its checking the disk or not on boot)
[12:07] <it9001> on a ubuntu irc channel on debian... embaressing
[12:07] <MonkeyDust> Hans_Henrik  disable fsck, lemme find out
[12:08] <alogic> Hans_Henrik: there is a flag for that in /etc/fstab , the last column 1 replace with 0 for the partition
[12:09] <MonkeyDust> Hans_Henrik  what alogic says, plus this, maybe it's helpful http://embraceubuntu.com/2005/10/12/tuning-the-filesystem-check-at-bootup/
[12:10] <BlauskaerM> Have some problems with Adobe Reader and Firefox. Can only open one pdf and after I just get a blank screen.
[12:10] <sacarlson> tegra: you can also look into synaptic and select status>installed>upgradable> markallupgrades >apply
[12:10] <BlauskaerM> Dont have access to root so is there a solution if you only have user-space access?
[12:13] <bazhang> BlauskaerM, whats wrong with the native pdf reader
[12:13] <sacarlson> BlauskaerM: there is chroot but I'm not sure what you could do with it as like install a virtualbox in it so you become a super user in user space or??
[12:14] <BlauskaerM> bazhang: It craches for some reason when I read some PDF:s =/
[12:15] <sacarlson> BlauskaerM: and also I don't have any problems viewing pdf files with the default viewer
[12:15] <bazhang> BlauskaerM, you're talking about acroread from the medibuntu.org repos?
[12:15] <insert> hi guys. I tried to upgrade Ubuntu 10.04, but I didn't use 'do-release-upgrade' and I screwd something it up, and now when I try 'do-release-upgrade' i get 'E:Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.'. Command 'aptitude search ~b' shows plenty of results, do I have to handle all of them by hand?
[12:15] <sacarlson> BlauskaerM: oh some not all so maybe the pdf files are corrupt also you might have other apps that will view pdf installed that won't crash
[12:16] <killown> lastest flashplayer update is throwing a buggy flash  version, the youtube videos got blue, how can I downgrade it?
[12:16] <bazhang> killown, you cannot
[12:16] <Hans_Henrik> just upgraded from 11.04 to 11.10 and it Used to be configured to directly login to the user "mark", now it wont log in automatically.. how do i tell 11.10 to login automatically to the user "mark" ?
[12:16] <killown> so ubuntu developers need to do something, this flash version is garbage
[12:16] <bazhang> insert, please be more specific than "screwed somethng up"
[12:17] <BlauskaerM> sacarlson: The PDFs that I'm reading workds fine with Adobe and FOXIT (or whatever the name is on the reader in windows) but not with the ubuntu standrad one
[12:17] <bazhang> killown, thats an adobe issue
[12:17] <sacarlson> insert: I think at this point you will have to install a fresh copy from like livecd,   I'm sure you backed up every thing before upgrade
[12:17] <it9001> Just switch to debian, ubuntu is based on it anyway
[12:17] <killown> bazhang, because that the developers will do nothing?
[12:17] <bazhang> it9001, thats not helpful
[12:18] <it9001> bazhang: I think you'll find it is :/
[12:18] <bazhang> it9001, dont do that here. thanks.
[12:18] <sacarlson> BlauskaerM: more clues might be found from what did you use to view the pdf file in ubuntu?
[12:18] <killown> if yes, then ubuntu is not for final users
[12:18] <insert> bazhang: I can't upgrade to the newer version, /etc/issue still shows "Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS \n \l"
[12:18] <sacarlson> BlauskaerM: I think there are like 5 or more pdf viewer in ubuntu and probly more in linux
[12:18] <T-b0n3> insert, does it tell you what packages are broken?
[12:19] <bazhang> insert, did you check synaptic to look for more than LTS releases
[12:19] <BlauskaerM> sacarlson: Its evince
[12:19] <BlauskaerM> sacarlson: As I said, I dont have root access so cant install anything
[12:19] <it9001> use su?
[12:19] <it9001> or sudo..
[12:19] <bazhang> it9001, no
[12:20] <sacarlson> BlauskaerM: seems there is already a bug open http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/poppler-bugs/2006-November/000713.html
[12:20] <sacarlson> BlauskaerM: oh but that's like 2006
[12:20] <insert> bazhang: I modified /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and changed 'prompt=lts' to 'prompt=normal'
[12:20] <bazhang> BlauskaerM, is this a wubi install, or a real install
[12:21] <sacarlson> BlauskaerM: here's one in 2009, not sure what version of ubuntu you run https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/poppler/+bug/419777
[12:21] <BlauskaerM> bazhang: Dont know, how do I check that?
[12:21] <bazhang> BlauskaerM, and did you get acroread from medibuntu.org repos or where
[12:21] <insert> T-b0n3: do-release-upgrade does not, but 'sudo aptitude search ~b' shows some results
[12:21] <bazhang> BlauskaerM, wubi is from within windows
[12:22] <it9001> So you guys enjoying unity?
[12:22] <it9001> You know, that thing you can't remove :)
[12:22] <bazhang> !ot | it9001
[12:22] <BlauskaerM> bazhang: Dont know, the machine of interesst is at my university
[12:22] <BlauskaerM> bazhang: Dont know how that set it up =(
[12:22] <it9001> bazhang, i am talking about ubuntu, hown
[12:22] <bastidrazor> it9001: feel free to join us in #ubuntu-offtopic  ..i enjoy talking about unity.
[12:22] <sacarlson> it9001: no I run gnome-shell
[12:22] <it9001> how is that offtopic*
[12:23] <bazhang> it9001, this is not the talking about ubuntu channel. this is support only take it to #ubuntu-offtopic for idle chit chat
[12:23] <BlauskaerM> bazhang: they*
[12:25] <sacarlson> bazhang: BlauskaerM is not a sudo or root user
[12:25] <insert> can I automatically reinstall all broken packages?
[12:25] <bazhang> sacarlson, why would he need to be to read pdfs
[12:25] <bastidrazor> insert: sudo apt-get -f install may help
[12:26] <sacarlson> bazhang: I don't know many pdf docs in school so I guess they might need it sometimes
[12:26] <sacarlson> bazhang: oh he notes it crashes on open of some pdfs
[12:26] <insert> bastidrazor: at the end it just showed '0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 593 not upgraded.'
[12:26] <bazhang> sacarlson, plus he does not even know if its a wubi install, if its acroread from mediubuntu and other useful tidbits
[12:27] <brontosaurusrex> is there a specific md5 signature to follow when posting md5 sums? like : filename.ext > 23847238472893472934 ?
[12:27] <bazhang> !hashes | brontosaurusrex
[12:27] <T-b0n3> insert, would it be an idea to apt-get remove the broken packages and try reinstalling them?
[12:27] <sacarlson> bazhang: we didn't get the ubuntu version but we did get that the app is evince
[12:28] <brontosaurusrex> bazhang: hash *filename (what is * for?)
[12:29] <karl-augustt> join #ubuntu
[12:29] <karl-augustt> please I  have a bug on latex compilation :   Package ucs Error : please activate 'combine' \backslashbox{type}{année}
[12:29] <insert> T-b0n3: yes, that would be good
[12:30] <bastidrazor> insert: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  ..what output does that give you?
[12:31] <alogic> brontosaurusrex: that means files are treated as binary ones. md5sum has a mode when whitespaces are ignored, in that case you wouldn't have an asterisk.
[12:32] <insert> bastidrazor: I tried that some time ago because I thought this is a proper way to upgrade, but it didn't upgrade to the newest distribution, /etc/issue shows 10.04
[12:32] <kandinski> is it possible to connect to a wireless network from the command line?
[12:32] <bastidrazor> insert: that isn't suppose to change the distro version.
[12:33] <kandinski> what keywoards should I google in order to find out how?
[12:33] <insert> bastidrazor: do you think to run it now? At the end, I'd like to upgrade to Ubuntu 11
[12:34] <bastidrazor> insert: how did you mess up the upgrade before?
[12:34] <sacarlson> kandinski: yes;  with iwconfig
[12:34] <alogic> kandinski: guess this would work as a start - http://www.wirelessdefence.org/Contents/LinuxWirelessCommands.htm
[12:35] <alogic> and yes, iwconfig is the star player there.
[12:35] <sacarlson> kandinski: if encrypted wifi might require more with wpa-supplicant
[12:35] <mcloy> is there a way to hide .css file from users of webpage. put it in a folder from where only webserver apache can access it. and user cannot access the .css directly . any way?
[12:35] <jrib> mcloy: what's the point? Your going to send the user the information anyway
[12:36] <alogic> if you're using CSS there's no way to hide it from user, it can be reached with Firebug or similar tools of other browsers.
[12:36] <jors> Hi.  Need some advice.  Looking to resurrect an old PC I dug up from the attic recently.  Specs are 2.6GHz Celeron, 512Mb RAM, 80Gb HDD, Nvidia 5200 Graphics etc.  Currently has an original copy of XP Pro on it.  Currently getting the Lubuntu 11.10 torrent (it's at 95%).  But I'm reluctant as I've read that Xubuntu is good as well.  From your experience, which would be best given the specs?  If not, should I use another distro altogther?  Choices, choices...
[12:36] <jors> .
[12:36] <mcloy> jrib,  just dont want the user to save the .css
[12:37] <jrib> mcloy: why?  The user could easily determine the rules anyway
[12:37] <insert> bastidrazor: sudo apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade, sudo apt-get install -f, sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get clean all, sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get get -f install, sudo apt-get clean all, sudo apt-get autoremove, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade,
[12:37] <rumpe1> mcloy, it is always saved somewhere automatically. That's how the web works.
[12:37] <alogic> jors: it's more than enough for pretty much any ubuntu-based distro including the current one.
[12:38] <alogic> ubuntu 11.10 i mean.
[12:38] <rumpe1> mcloy, have you invented a really awesome css-technique or why are you afraid of that?
[12:38] <bastidrazor> insert: none of those commands will upgrade you to a newer distro version.
[12:38] <insert> bastidrazor: something like that, this is what my history shows. Probably I should have run do-release-upgrade and that's all :/
[12:38] <jors> You mean Unity3D as well, wouldn't that be a bit much for it??
[12:38] <insert> bastidrazor: well, now I know
[12:38] <sacarlson> mcloy: they can clone your site with wget or other tools in a few secounds, so seems pointless
[12:38] <alogic> jors: no, i'm using it on machine with really similar specs.
[12:38] <mcloy> rumpe1,  i sell css. and when i show demos of webs. people copy .css while viewing it
[12:39] <mcloy> sacarlson, ^
[12:39] <insert> bastidrazor: and now do-dist-upgrade says 'E:Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. '
[12:39] <ikonia> mcloy: that's why you get legal help for theft
[12:39] <ikonia> mcloy: it's not really a technology issue
[12:40] <T-b0n3> insert, what happens when you do sudo apt-get -f install <broken-package-name>
[12:40] <T-b0n3> ?
[12:40] <sacarlson> mcloy: I guess you can only give them screen shots of your sites to prevent that then
[12:40] <bastidrazor> insert: okay, how did you get to that point? those commands would not have broken anything.
[12:40] <adha> insert : sudo apt-get install --fix-broken sudo apt-get autoclean
[12:40] <adha> sudo apt-get autoremove
[12:41] <adha> insert : try it
[12:41] <mcloy> ikonia,  sacarlson  is there no other technique .  using frames. flash..     dont know........
[12:41] <jpds> mcloy: The answer is: No.
[12:41] <ikonia> mcloy: you need a legal solution
[12:41] <kandinski> alogic, and sacarlson, thanks
[12:41] <alogic> yw ;)
[12:41] <sacarlson> mcloy: none that I know of but I'm no expert
[12:42] <alogic> i personally can extract css from any website assuming they use one. you cannot hide that. trust me.
[12:42] <jors> alogic: thanks for the heads up.  So...... in the event it DOESN'T run all that well, what are my options then?
[12:42] <alogic> jors: ubuntu 10.04 without desktop effects, i'd say.
[12:42] <alogic> that's what i got at my office pc, quite a low-end one
[12:43] <jors> alogic:  mmm... the LTS version, never thought of that.
[12:43] <Birliban> Hi, my ubuntu 10.4 LTS cannot resolve hostnames anymore. anyone a hint how to get this fixed? i can ping an ip without problem.
[12:44] <worm> Does amyone know how to make my ubuntu start to console rather than lightdm?
[12:44] <T-b0n3> Birliban, what is in your /etc/hosts file?
[12:44] <eno_> Why you choose ubuntu?
[12:45] <worm> And when I need to use x, i can run startx.
[12:45] <insert> T-b0n3: it is installed smoothly
[12:45] <sacarlson> mcloy: see my pm
[12:45] <Birliban> T-b0n3, only 127.0.0.1	localhost
[12:45] <insert> bastidrazor: so I don't remember, I must have done something ugly
[12:46] <T-b0n3> Birliban, are you connected to your home network or a mobile data connection?
[12:46] <jpds> worm: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#disabling-a-job-from-automatically-starting
[12:46] <T-b0n3> Birliban, sorry, i meant to ask what is in /etc/resolv.conf
[12:47] <T-b0n3> insert, does aptitude still list the package as broken?
[12:48] <insert> T-b0n3: no, after I reinstalled it doesn't
[12:48] <T-b0n3> insert, great, so… do the rest and then do-release-upgrade should work ^_^
[12:48] <T-b0n3> hopefully lol
[12:49] <insert> T-b0n3: can it be done automatically, with no need to create a custom script, with apt?
[12:49] <T-b0n3> how many packages does aptitude list are broken?
[12:49] <T-b0n3> insert,
[12:50] <T-b0n3> insert, you should be able to do apt-get -f install <package-name> <package-name> etc, etc
[12:50] <T-b0n3> save doing them separately
[12:50] <Birliban> T-b0n3, there is nameserver xxx.xx.xxx.xxx (just x'ed for privacy)
[12:51] <T-b0n3> Birliban, cool, so does that IP correspond to your local networks DNS server?
[12:51] <Birliban> T-b0n3, yes. it does
[12:52] <sacarlson> Birliban: you might try change it to 8.8.8.8  or one from opendns
[12:52] <Birliban> T-b0n3, maybe this one changed by provider... ok. i have an alternative one. do i need to restart something?
[12:52] <worm> jpds: Only rename kdm and lightdm? is that enough? I didn't see anything about x or xorg.
[12:52] <jpds> worm: Yes.
[12:53] <T-b0n3> Birliban, you won't need to restart, just put the new one at the top of resolv.conf and it will take effect immediately
[12:53] <sacarlson> Birliban: there are also tools to test dns servers with the dig command
[12:53] <Birliban> sacarlson, ok, will check this
[12:53] <Birliban> thanks for your help!!!
[12:54] <Birliban> T-b0n3, works like a charm. thank you.
[12:55] <T-b0n3> Birliban, great ;) glad to help!
[12:56] <Birliban> T-b0n3, :)
[12:58] <ironm> Hello. Where can I report ubuntu 12.04 beta issues? When I install precise 12.04 beta (all versions including the today's daily one) on HP DL 385g7 servers with additional NX network card there is an error message: "Missing Firmware Files phanfw.bin and nx3fwct.bin". There is no such message when installing ubuntu 11.10.
[12:59] <ironm> Thank you in advance for any hints.
[12:59] <MonkeyDust> ironm  #ubuntu+1
[12:59] <ironm> thanks a lot MonkeyDust :)
[13:01] <TorbenBeta> What is the best program: pg, more or less?
[13:01] <TorbenBeta> Which
[13:02] <T-b0n3> TorbenBeta, more and less imo
[13:03] <TorbenBeta> T-b0n3, which of the two?
[13:03] <TorbenBeta> I would tend to less
[13:04] <MonkeyDust> TorbenBeta  with less you can scroll up and down
[13:04] <TorbenBeta> MonkeyDust, can't you do that with more also?
[13:04] <T-b0n3> TorbenBeta, less allows you to scroll, search and regex(?)
[13:04] <j605> hi
[13:05] <MonkeyDust> TorbenBeta  i guess only down, with more
[13:05] <T-b0n3> TorbenBeta, i use more when i want to cat a large file and aren't expecting to have to search or scroll up
[13:05] <T-b0n3> much of a muchness :P
[13:06] <TorbenBeta> Thanks guys.
[13:06] <spyder89> need an expert with powerpc setup
[13:07] <spyder89> anyone?
[13:07] <MonkeyDust> !ppc
[13:08] <spyder89> i'm setting up my mac g5 with pre intel chips with ubuntu and having trouble with partitioning
[13:15] <Slugma> hi everyone!
[13:16] <Slugma> just wondering, how can I edit the defaultly-selected option in grub?
[13:16] <j605> i use a hp g6 laptop and in ubuntu i expereice poor battery life, can anyone suggest some ways in improving it. i did set pm-powersave to true
[13:19] <auronandace> j605: there has been a power regression for a while in the kernel
[13:19] <auronandace> j605: not sure if the fix has been backported yet
[13:20] <auronandace> j605: if i remember correctly, it is fixed in 3.2 kernel and above
[13:21] <Slugma> can anyone please tell me how can I edit the defaultly-selected option in grub? I don't know much about ubuntu :\
[13:21] <j605> auronandace:how can i find what version i am using?
[13:21] <auronandace> j605: only 12.04 currently uses a 3.2 kernel
[13:22] <auronandace> j605: 12.04 is still beta, so if you are using a stable release then you likely still have the power regression
[13:22] <j605> auronandace: i'll update as soon as possible
[13:23] <auronandace> j605: what does uname -a say?
[13:23] <tegra> 12.04 use 3.2.13 ?
[13:24] <auronandace> tegra: check in #ubuntu+1
[13:24] <tegra> ok
[13:24] <j605> auronandace: Linux giant 3.0.0-16-generic #29-Ubuntu SMP Tue Feb 14 12:48:51 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[13:24] <auronandace> j605: ok, so you are on 11.10
[13:25] <widwool> :)
[13:26] <auronandace> j605: just so you know: there is an update to your kernel
[13:27] <auronandace> j605: unrelated to the power issue though
[13:27] <j605> auronandace: i don' have have a good internet connection, i'll update it by april 5th
[13:29] <j605> auronandace: thanks for the help :)
[13:29] <auronandace> j605: no worries :)
[13:31] <avernum> I upgraded   ca-certificates-java from 20100406ubuntu1 to ca-certificates-java from 20100406ubuntu1.1 this morning. Since then, LibreOffice (with Zotero plugin) kept freezing. If I ran from the command line, I get an error like: The program 'soffice' received an X Window System error.
[13:31] <avernum> This probably reflects a bug in the program.
[13:31] <avernum> The error was 'BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)'.
[13:31] <avernum>   (Details: serial 295078 error_code 11 request_code 53 minor_code 0)
[13:31] <FloodBot1> avernum: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:32] <avernum> I since downgraded ca-certificates-java and it appears to have fixed the problem.
[13:32] <avernum> Could I get some advice as to if to file a bug?
[13:33] <avernum> (On Ubuntu 10.04, otherwise all up-to-date)
[13:33] <greg__> Hi all
[13:34] <greg__> How can I do to connect USB hard drive without automount try on ubuntu please ?
[13:34] <DarsVaeda> Hi, I get this error when trying to install a second monitor: "required virtual size does not fit available size: requested=(3360, 1050), minimum=(320, 200), maximum=(1680, 1680)"
[13:34] <DarsVaeda> what do I do?
[13:34] <greg__> (11.10)
[13:34] <DarsVaeda> mirror displays works thou
[13:36] <tmus> the procfs upstart "service" sets some sysctl values that overrides values set from my /etc/network/interfaces post-up scripts. What's the proper way to avoid this?
[13:37] <phil__> hello
[13:37] <smokycat> dificult irssi ...
[13:38] <senorpedro> hi
[13:38] <senorpedro> how can i make apache to allow download files bigger then 2gb?
[13:38] <avernum> OK, my bad, it isn't the  java thingy, it just went and did it again...
[13:38] <avernum> Blast.
[13:40] <avernum> Next question, where does LibreOffice store it's config?
[13:45] <quint> how can i run wireshark in cli?
[13:45] <quint> with no x
[13:46] <avernum> I guess you can't. From the man page: "Wireshark is a GUI network protocol analyzer."
[13:46] <ikonia> quint: http://www.wireshark.org/docs/man-pages/
[13:47] <Hafaisy> test
[13:47] <auronandace> !test | Hafaisy
[13:48] <Hafaisy> *test
[13:49] <sacarlson> quint: another option is tcpdump but it looks like tdump that might be a part of wireshark will also work in cli
[13:50] <Pici> quint: the cli version is tshark.
[13:50] <quint> excellent
[13:50] <quint> thanks
[13:51]  * Star_Light bye
[13:51] <sacarlson> quint: opps and as pici said it's tshark not tdump
[13:51] <avernum> Sooo. Again, I keep getting this error when I run LibreOffice (on an up-to-date 10.04). The error was 'BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)'.   (Details: serial XXXXX [changes each time] error_code 11 request_code 53 minor_code 0)
[13:52] <box> hello
[13:52] <sacarlson> avernum: lack of mem I would think
[13:52] <avernum> I don't seem to have a .libreoffice folder, and I've renamed my old .openoffice.org folder.
[13:53] <avernum> sacarison: sys mon is reporting 735MiB of 2.5GiB used, and no swap.
[13:53] <auronandace> avernum: where did you install libreoffice from?
[13:53] <box> Following these instructions for linux http://chromeos.hexxeh.net/ - I can't seem to get dd if=ChromeOS.img of=/dev/sdX bs=4M to work. My USB is /dev/sdb and I've tried sdb and sdb1 with and without partitions but no data seems to be written - where am i going wrong?
[13:54] <avernum> auronandace: the official channel
[13:54] <yzhd> can anyone help me with installing  gtk+ ?
[13:54] <auronandace> avernum: ??
[13:54] <yzhd> I'm trying to install lm-sensors, but I need some other files to do it...
[13:54] <auronandace> avernum: you got it from the website?
[13:54] <box> Never mind - Had to 'safely remove' =$ my bad
[13:54] <avernum> auronandace: no, I installed the LibreOffice PPA and installed it from there.
[13:55] <auronandace> avernum: ah, ppa
[13:55] <avernum> I'm on 10.04, and even though OOo is mean to be still supported, the reality seems to be that no one gives a shit any more unless I'm running LibreOffice from the PPA.
[13:56] <auronandace> avernum: you'd need to get in touch with the maintainer of the ppa
[13:56] <avernum> Alright, I'll go file a bug or something.
[13:56] <Hans_Henrik> After i upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04 to 11.10, somewhere along the way libmysqlclient-dev got deleted. i need this for 1 of the programming projects im working on. now when i try to "apt-get install libmysqlclient-dev", i get this error: The following packages have unmet dependencies:  libmysqlclient-dev : Depends: libmysqlclient16 (= 5.1.61-0ubuntu0.11.10.1) but 5.1.61-2~dotdeb.0 is to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, 
[13:57] <sacarlson> yzhd: it look like this should install it sudo apt-get install lm-sensors
[13:57] <Hans_Henrik> any idea how i can install libmysqlclient-dev?
[13:57] <Redmax> ervers
[13:57] <yzhd> sacarlson, it doesn't work
[13:58] <yzhd> sacarlson, I have downloaded the tar.gz, I'm going to install it via terminal, but I need some additional files to make it work. Since I'm a newb.. I can't find them.. could you hep me ?
[13:58] <sacarlson> Hans_Henrik: did you sudo apt-get update;  if so do you have security  and update repository set active in synaptic?
[13:59] <auronandace> yzhd: isn't lmsensors in the repos?
[13:59] <yzhd> auronandace, can be. How can I check?
[13:59] <auronandace> !info lm-sensors
[13:59] <yzhd> I'm a really newb.. installed ubuntu 3 days ago :)
[13:59] <sacarlson> yzhd: what error do you get from sudo apt-get install lm-sensors ?
[13:59] <auronandace> !software | yzhd
[14:00] <yzhd> "lm-sensors is already the newest version."
[14:00] <yzhd> but I can't find it
[14:00] <sacarlson> yzhd: try sudo sensors-detect
[14:01] <sacarlson> yzhd: and see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[14:01] <Hans_Henrik> sacarlson: oneiric-updates and oneiric-security is enabled yes, there is no updates available (according to update-manager)
[14:01] <yzhd> Driver `k10temp' (autoloaded):
[14:01] <yzhd>   * Chip `AMD Family 11h thermal sensors' (confidence: 9)
[14:01] <yzhd> No modules to load, skipping modules configuration.
[14:01] <yzhd> Unloading i2c-dev... OK
[14:01] <yzhd> Unloading cpuid... OK
[14:01] <FloodBot1> yzhd: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:02] <Myrtti> yzhd: please, PLEASE use pastebin
[14:02] <yzhd> sorry.
[14:02] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto   <---- have a read
[14:03] <bazhang> yzhd, see above
[14:03] <sacarlson> !info libmysqlclient16
[14:03] <yzhd> bazhang, yes sir, I have read it... But it still won't work
[14:03] <bazhang> !work | yzhd
[14:04] <yzhd> bazhang, can I show you via teamviewer ?
[14:04] <sacarlson> Hans_Henrik: seems you have some ppa or mixed repository conflict
[14:04] <bazhang> yzhd, no
[14:05] <insert> all right, I got rid of broken packages, what's the BEST way to upgrade Ubuntu? Is 'do-release-upgrade' good?
[14:06] <sacarlson> yzhd: from that I would guess it's working then
[14:06] <mr-squidley> insert:sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[14:06] <sacarlson> yzhd: you can now install one of the gui apps or applets to view it on your screen
[14:06] <yzhd> sacarlson, but I can't find sensors-applet
[14:07] <yzhd> sacarlson, I want it to show on my panel
[14:07] <Hans_Henrik> sacarlson: the only enabled repos are now the official ubuntu-netherland repository oneiric-updates oneiric-security main universe restricted multiverse     . not any other repo, and situation is the same
[14:07] <sacarlson> yzhd: did you install it?
[14:07] <yzhd> sacarlson, yes
[14:07] <insert> mr-squidley: why with '-d'? It says 'Check if upgrading to the latest devel release is possible', I'm on 10.04 now and want to upgrade to next stable version
[14:07] <sacarlson> yzhd: if so what error did you get from that install sudo apt-get install  sensors-applet
[14:07] <genii-around> insert: If you wait three weeks you can upgrade from your 10.04 straight to the next LTS of 12.04
[14:08] <yzhd> sacarlson, I don't get any errors, but I can't find it ?
[14:08] <Down_to_Earth> Hello
[14:08] <DarsVaeda> what is the difference between a "desktop with single display (multidesktop)" and "desktop over multiple displays with 2 displays"?
[14:08] <insert> genii-around: can I skip 11?
[14:08] <mr-squidley> insert then remove the -d :D
[14:09] <sacarlson> yzhd: what are you looking for that you can't find?
[14:09] <Down_to_Earth> darkcharl, it's if you have more than one monitor
[14:09] <yzhd> sacarlson, sensors-applet.
[14:09] <Down_to_Earth> ooops
[14:09] <yzhd> sacarlson, How can I make it show my computer temperature on my panel ?
[14:09] <DarsVaeda> yeah but whats the difference in the options ^^
[14:09] <genii-around> insert: Yes, after 12.04 becomes an official release
[14:09] <Down_to_Earth> DarsVaeda, it's if you have than one monitor
[14:09] <auronandace> insert: you can only upgrade to the next release or from one lts to another
[14:10] <sacarlson> yzhd: read the link as it point out Finally, restart to load all the sensors. Once back at the desktop,  right-click on the top panel and choose "Add to Panel." Select "Hardware  Sensors Monitor" and click the "Add" button,
[14:10] <insert> auronandace: I thought so, so I cannot go straight to 12, right?
[14:10] <sacarlson> yzhd: but you should read above that as well
[14:10] <insert> auronandace: ok, if they're both LTS I can
[14:10] <genii-around> insert: If you go to 10.10 now, you have to then go 11.04->11.10->12.04
[14:10] <auronandace> insert: yes, 10.04 to 12.04 is possible when it gets released, they are both lts releases
[14:10] <sacarlson> yzhd: maybe that applet is too old?
[14:11] <yzhd> sacarlson, can I PM you ?
[14:11] <insert> ok, thank you all for help
[14:11] <sacarlson> yzhd: if so try ksensors
[14:13] <sacarlson> Hans_Henrik: you say now are official but what were they before?
[14:13] <arthurjohnson> auronandace, That always scares me, going from LTS to LTS ;)
[14:14] <auronandace> arthurjohnson: i never upgrade, i always clean install
[14:14] <Down_to_Earth> Ubuntu 11.10, and I installed through windows, wubi.exe; i believe. I have a unallocated space, am i able to unmount OS (Windows 7 partition) and resize with the free space, in other words is it safe to unmount?
[14:14] <newlikegr> hi all
[14:14] <arthurjohnson> auronandace, That seems to give you the best experience I think.  Its a PITA, but otherwise your not going to see all the improvements to the UI.
[14:15] <Down_to_Earth> Hello newlikegr.
[14:15] <newlikegr> can anyone tell me my part message
[14:15] <newlikegr> im going to reconnect
[14:15] <newlikegr> what was my part message?
[14:15] <Down_to_Earth> has left Ubuntu
[14:16] <auronandace> arthurjohnson: i use xubuntu, so xfce is my desktop, i don't like unity so i don't consider it an improvement :)
[14:16] <Hans_Henrik> sacarlson: these extra repos was enabled: deb http://apt.jenslody.de/ \n any main deb-src http://apt.jenslody.de/ any main \n deb http://apt.wxwidgets.org/ maverick-wx main
[14:16] <yzhd> when I right click on my panel at desktop, I don't see any add to panel options ?
[14:16] <sacarlson> Hans_Henrik: if no ppa or other repository were never added before you can try a different repository host like usa or japan or other
[14:16] <newlikegr> zz
[14:16] <Myrtti> newlikegr: this is #ubuntu for Ubuntu support issues, not debugging your IRC client
[14:16] <Hans_Henrik> sacarlson: yeah switched to USA server, but didnt make a difference
[14:16] <newlikegr> Myrtti Ok sorry
[14:16] <sacarlson> Hans_Henrik: oh well some how they have mest up your system, I'm not sure how to fix that
[14:17] <newlikegr> yzhd You should try Xfce, I found Unity useless too
[14:17] <Down_to_Earth> yzhd, Did you try to click, drag and drop?
[14:17] <sacarlson> Hans_Henrik: probly easier to just reinstall
[14:17] <yzhd> click drag and drop? what shall I click on ?
[14:18] <Down_to_Earth> Click and hold, the release when you have the program, or file you want to put on the bar.
[14:18] <sacarlson> Hans_Henrik: oh wait maybe you can force the install version with aptitude
[14:19] <sacarlson> Hans_Henrik: problem is you might fix one thing to find 50 other dependencies broken
[14:19] <kri5_> Hi there
[14:19] <arthurjohnson> auronandace: Xubuntu is where its at.  Love it.
[14:19] <kri5_> i'm currently trying to install ubuntu 12.04 through pxe with kickstart
[14:19] <mneptok> kri5_: 12.04 questions in #ubuntu+1 please
[14:20] <kri5_> but the install hangs out on linux-generic kernel package
[14:20] <kri5_> mneptok: ok thanks
[14:20] <Down_to_Earth> I am running Ubuntu 11.10, and I installed through windows, wubi.exe; i believe. I have a unallocated space, am i able to unmount OS (Windows 7 partition) and resize with the free space, in other words is it safe to unmount?
[14:20] <arthurjohnson> auronandace: Although lately I've been using Window Maker as my window manager, but still use the XFCE components.
[14:20] <sacarlson> kri5_: did you try without kickstart first?
[14:20] <sirknight> hi
[14:20] <mneptok> sacarlson: 12.04 support in #ubuntu+1 please
[14:21] <sirknight> Down_to_Earth,  what do you mean?
[14:22] <auronandace> Down_to_Earth: you need to use a livecd
[14:22] <sirknight> Down_to_Earth,  are you talking about unmountng win7 within win7?
[14:23] <maxpogorelov> hi everyone
[14:23] <bazhang> auronandace, he wants to resize a wubi install
[14:23] <maxpogorelov> i have blue faces when playing video on youtube
[14:23] <Down_to_Earth> Am I allowed to upload an image to imageshack, of partitions >.<
[14:23] <bazhang> !wubi | Down_to_Earth check this guide
[14:23] <bazhang> maxpogorelov, turn off 3D first and try again
[14:24] <bazhang> Down_to_Earth, check the wubi guide
[14:24] <auronandace> bazhang: sorry, from what i read it sounded like he wanted to resize the windows partition while inside wubi (which wouldn't work)
[14:25] <bazhang> auronandace, I read it as him wanting to resize the wubi install, Down_to_Earth which one is it
[14:25] <sirknight> UBCD is an iso this is a really good one to use     http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/download.html  Down_to_Earth
[14:26] <maxpogorelov> bazhang, how can i turn off 3d? i'm uisng gnome3
[14:26] <bazhang> sirknight, that wont help a wubi install
[14:26] <mustmodify> Hi! I have two issues and I'm hoping someone can point me to the appropriate channel.
[14:26] <bazhang> mustmodify, what issues
[14:26] <sirknight> bazhang,  i was adressing  the part of the resizing
[14:26] <mustmodify> First, after Ubuntu goes to sleep and wakes up, my mouse still works, but the pointer goes away.
[14:27] <bazhang> sirknight, yes, wubi resize wont be helped with that
[14:28] <Down_to_Earth> Here is my partitions http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/12/screenshotat20120330102.png/  (if i am not allowed to share image links i am sorry) but i want to put that empty space with OS, is it safe to unmount, preferably with out a live cd. (hence the reason why installed in Windows)
[14:28] <sirknight> bazhang, the hdd is what i am after but i see i wasnt not help..
[14:28] <bazhang> Down_to_Earth, resize the wubi install? yes or no
[14:28] <mustmodify> any thoughts about which channel would be most appropriate?
[14:29] <Pici> mustmodify: Here.
[14:29] <sparky-> mustmodify: tell your X driver to use software cursor instead of hardware one
[14:29] <bazhang> maxpogorelov, no PM please, keep it in channel
[14:29] <Down_to_Earth> resize an empty space to the OS partition, i mentioned the Wubi installation method because i wasnt too sure if the OS will have any files that ubuntu needs to run.
[14:30] <bazhang> Down_to_Earth, the windows? or the wubi
[14:30] <mustmodify> sparky: ok... I remember playing with my x config on a different machine at some point so hopefully I'll be able to get that done.
[14:30] <maxpogorelov> bazhang, how to turn off 3d in gnome3?
[14:30] <mustmodify> Second question (I'm using temporal partitioning here... fancy! :P )
[14:31] <bazhang> maxpogorelov, what players have you tried that give the blue color
[14:31] <Down_to_Earth> I am not too sure how I can be any clearer.
[14:31] <sirknight> i am lookin for  a program that is for linux, simular to drangon naturally speaking for winows...do we have these kind of apps?
[14:32] <bazhang> Down_to_Earth, you installed ubuntu within windows. you want to make more space for windows, or ubuntu (the wubi install)
[14:32] <LjL> sirknight: i'm afraid you won't have much luck with that kind of software on Linux :(
[14:32] <sparky-> sirknight: speech synthesis, many.  speech recognition, no.
[14:32] <mustmodify> I have three monitors. I currently use a windows machine to SSH into an ubuntu machine. If and when I find a KVM that will switch all three monitors, and I switch to touch-screen monitors, will I have problems with the touch-screens when I switch back and forth?
[14:32] <sirknight> speech reconizing software?
[14:32] <Down_to_Earth> Windows, The "OS" partition, and i already installed ubuntu, i am on it right now. using GParted.
[14:33] <bazhang> Down_to_Earth, so the windows OS then
[14:33] <sirknight> sparky-,  whats the difference?
[14:33] <sparky-> sirknight: one is output, the other is input
[14:33] <Down_to_Earth> bazhang, Yes.
[14:34] <bazhang> Down_to_Earth, why ask here? you need to resize using windows tools
[14:34] <sparky-> mustmodify: likely not.  touchscreens will probably be usb-based ones and those should, if written properly, be hot-pluggable much like usb keyboards and mice
[14:34] <arthurjohnson> sirknight: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speech_recognition_in_Linux
[14:34] <bazhang> Down_to_Earth, you cannot resize the windows os from within wubi
[14:35] <mustmodify> sparky: That's what I'm hoping. Should be a SWEET setup.
[14:35] <sparky-> mustmodify: but, barring space issues, the best solution might be to use one set of keyboard/mouse and run a software that "magically" morphs the mouse/keyboard to another OS when your move cross the screen boundary
[14:35] <sparky-> mustmodify: (that means setting up three displays :-))
[14:35] <Down_to_Earth> bazhang, Thank you for the second statement, and if i knew the answer, would i have asked here? :p
[14:36] <Down_to_Earth> Thank you, for you guy's help. :]
[14:36] <maxpogorelov> bazhang, the problem only with flash player. with vlc, totem, mplayer everything is fine
[14:36] <bazhang> Down_to_Earth, there is a channel here on freenode that can help with that ##windows
[14:36] <arthurjohnson> sirknight: It sounds like some people have actually gotten Dragon running on Linux with Wine.
[14:37] <sirknight> but i dont have it:(  but thanks i didnt know that..  link please
[14:37] <arthurjohnson> sirknight: There are some references in that wikipedia article.
[14:37] <sparky-> keep an eye out for Google's voice recognition API ... that would be the same API they use to transcribe voicemail into text to send to your email (the Google Voice service)
[14:38] <sirknight> and what about wine?
[14:38] <flami> Hi there. it seems that I need the nvidia-current pakcage (295) from precise , but that wants to update half of my system with it, is there a way to get that package without all these dependencies on 11.10 ?
[14:38] <genii-around> flami: You could instead use the xorg-edgers ppa
[14:38] <flami> Oh then lemme google for that . thanks
[14:39] <sparky-> flami: are you up to building your own package?  you should be able to grab the source and build it on your system maybe after a few adjustments
[14:39] <arthurjohnson> sirknight: I don't have any recent experience with WINE, but I did get WoW to work under it a few years ago.  It was fun.
[14:40] <flami> well I need the new driver so the cuda sdk 4.1 runs. so I can build stufff. I dont quite know how to build the nvidia binary driver ... well since its a binary driver :P
[14:40] <sirknight> flami,  maybe but what i heard is that you are better off to recompile the package to have it work ... nvidea is the better of the two packages though
[14:40] <flami> I vaguely remeber that apt-get could build packages
[14:40] <auronandace> flami: you don't build the nvidia driver, its not open source
[14:41] <flami> yes I am aware of that. I wanna build a package
[14:41] <sevenless> Hi. I'm running Ubuntu 10.4. Trying to start a java program gets me "/usr/share/java/bin/java: no such file or directory". Any hints?
[14:41] <maxpogorelov> bazhang, when the video is embedded - everything ok wiith color. but when i'm watching directly from youtube blue faces happens)
[14:41] <hed_> salut
[14:42] <auronandace> !fr | hed_
[14:42] <flami> well repackage the binary driver to be like the original nvidia-current package. thus avoiding these hillarious situations where everything gets bricked because the drinver isntaller did something (tm)
[14:42] <flami> so is there a way to backport teh nvidia-current package?
[14:44] <flami> well taht xorg edgers ppa looks primising though
[14:45] <genii-around> flami: https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa/+index?batch=75&memo=75&start=75 is the page of the xorg-edgers PPa which shows the nvidia driver versions, the 11.10 and 12.04 are identical. I would probably try that first.
[14:45] <boderl> is there a text-to-speech software for ubuntu?
[14:45] <flami> genii-around: thats what I was thinking too.
[14:45] <auronandace> flami: just so you know, if something goes wrong you need to get in contact with the ppa maintainer
[14:46] <flami> lets hope not :P
[14:46] <genii-around> flami: As when using any external repository, support may not be available from the channel here if things go horribly wrong, etc etc
[14:46] <maxpogorelov> guys
[14:47] <panset> I am installing ubntu 11.10 server with encyrpted lvm.
[14:47] <maxpogorelov> where can i disable hardware acceleration in adobe flash
[14:47] <maxpogorelov> command-line style
[14:47] <flami> sheesh I should start bitching about having propblems compiling an experimental version of hpl . ^^
[14:47] <panset> During installation it asks if it wants to encrypt my home partition for my username
[14:47] <panset> If I select yes, does it do like double encryption?
[14:48] <hed_> anyone use kubuntu?
[14:48] <genii-around> hed_: The folks in #kubuntu channel do
[14:48] <bazhang> hed_, yes
[14:48] <flami> panset: what do you mean with double encryption?
[14:48] <slipttees> where i can change layout keybord to thinkpad T60?
[14:49] <hed_> thnx > genii
[14:49] <panset> flami: See, as the I already have 'encrypted LVM' so all data is encrypted, BUT later in the installation when setting up username and pass stuff, it asks if I want to ecnrypt my home dir.
[14:50] <robotboy> i have asus k4 w amd graph card
[14:50] <panset> So since the disk are already LVM encrypted, does the home directory encryption does another layer of encryption on existing encrypted LVM?
[14:51] <flami> panset:  well if its all in an encrypted lvm you dont really need to encrypt that again
[14:51] <robotboy> so i instal ubuntu and my notebook go riiculous
[14:51] <slipttees> everyone use precise?
[14:51] <bazhang> robotboy, how so
[14:51] <flami> panset: since the home folder encryption is uhmmm well I forgot what it was , it wanst lvm
[14:51] <bazhang> slipttees, in #ubuntu+1
[14:51] <robotboy> touchpad not function
[14:51] <robotboy> sound very bad
[14:51] <robotboy> no grapc driver
[14:52] <slipttees> bazhang: no one help :(
[14:52] <bazhang> slipttees, be patient, thats the channel for it
[14:52] <robotboy> so i goback for windows
[14:52] <slipttees> bazhang: i need configure my keyboard layout to thinkpad t60.
[14:52] <flami> panset: the home folder encryption is done with ecryptfs , so it would encrypt your encryxpted lvm again.
[14:52] <curiousx> =0 robotboy will go back to windows =0
[14:52] <curiousx> traitor =(
[14:52] <E3D3> After upgrading to new Beta I get a error: no arguments specified. How can I solve this ?
[14:52] <slipttees> bazhang: u know that?
[14:52] <robotboy> i am average user
[14:53] <curiousx> xD
[14:53] <auronandace> robotboy: you came here for help or just to tell us you are going back to windows?
[14:53] <bazhang> slipttees, then ask for support in the correct channel and be patient
[14:53] <robotboy> not programer or so
[14:53] <panset> flami: ah I see, is there any significant performance degradation in two encryptions?
[14:53] <slipttees> =/ thanks for nothing bazhang
[14:53] <slipttees> :/
[14:53] <robotboy> u can help me how to run ubuntu like in my windows
[14:53] <flami> panset:  its completely useless . also yes :P
[14:53] <bazhang> slipttees, this is the wrong channel. 12.04 is supported in #ubuntu+1 NOT here
[14:54] <wayne_wang> hey
[14:54] <auronandace> robotboy: in windows? so you want a wubi install?
[14:54] <flami> panset: you basically get the performancs hit of decrypting the filesystem, then dcrypting the encrypted container that is your homefolder.
[14:54] <ironm> hello again. anyone here familiar with launchpad. I am on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=precise
[14:54] <curiousx> robotboy: install ubuntu in your disk
[14:54] <ironm> and I would like to open a new issue. What I am missing is the link
[14:55] <ironm> thank you in advance for any hints ;)
[14:55] <panset> flami: thanks, I will just use LVM encyption with a good passphrase then
[14:55] <curiousx> and you will recive our support =)
[14:55] <panset> flami: also since its going to be server, is there any advantage of encryption, for example, does it protect anymore than usual if someone breaks into server?
[14:55] <E3D3> New Beta gives boot error and hangs/crash when using. ubuntu+1 has to little (or no) support. Are their alternatives to continue using my PC ?
[14:56] <Dj_FlyBy> Whats the best way to set an internal static IP? Via router or Via Ubuntu, or both??
[14:56] <flami> panset: if you are the only user, that would be teh best way I think . the nice part of ecryptfs is that every user can "chose" ( depending if the are inn the right group) to encrypt or not
[14:56] <auronandace> E3D3: #ubuntu+1 is where 12.04 is supported until release
[14:56] <ironm> panset, may I ask what is the max size of passphrase?
[14:57] <E3D3> auronandace: Thanks, do you also know when final release is ?
[14:57] <panset> flami: I see
[14:57] <flami> p
[14:57] <auronandace> E3D3: not sure of the exact date, but it is in april
[14:57] <panset> ironm: max phrase could be anything I guess, it recommends above 20 character
[14:57] <E3D3> auronandace: Thanks, I guess I beter wait until then.
[14:58] <flami> panset: the only thing encryption protect from is when your box gets physically stolen. opnce it is running an attacker can read your stuff
[14:58] <flami> panset: thus I never saw the point of encrypting a server.
[14:58] <ironm> panset, I mean if there is a limitation like 256 characters or so ...
[14:58] <PaulYosef> but i won't give up the battle against racism even if it hides behind in the dutch ubuntu community
[14:59] <flami> panset: if you want strong separation of services and users maybe look into LXC for containerbased virtualisation.
[14:59] <panset> flami: hmm exactly the later part, since it would be no use of encryption on running server. Hmmm
[14:59] <panset> ironm: no idea :|
[14:59] <slipttees> i need configure my keyboard layout to thinkpad t60.
[14:59] <slipttees> how can help?
[15:00] <ironm> slipttees,  you mean "who can help?" ..
[15:00] <bazhang> slipttees, what version of ubuntu
[15:00] <mustmodify> sparky: give me a push please... how do I tell X to use the software to render the mouse rather than hardware?
[15:00] <panset> flami: 'chroot on steroids'. interesting, thanks!
[15:02] <flami> panset: LXC istn quite as good as openvz yet when it comes to isolaton. but openvz only runs on 2.6.32 . ( its in debian squeeze) . also you could look into kvm to have complete virtualisation, which has a higher performance impact, but you can run anything in a virtual machine.
[15:03] <warsh> блин 5 лет на заходил в IRC !
[15:03] <genii-around> !ru | warsh
[15:04] <panset> flami: Actually in fact I am running the server on a Virtualbox vm, so that I can access stuff when I am away.
[15:05] <flami> panset: heh. yeah I guess LXC is what you want then. unless you wanna run debian squeeze and have openvz for another year or 2 until the next release, at which point itll be gone from debian too.
[15:05] <pie___> is it possible to set syn and set IP ID, tcp window size, tcp sequence number and ack field on a packet without root?
[15:05] <flami> panset: also brb
[15:09] <Napino> ciao
[15:09] <Napino> hello
[15:09] <Napino> !list
[15:09] <panset> flami: I will look into LXC. Squeeze would not cut out for me, since I need to stay on rapid release distros for generating compiling, builds etc.
[15:10] <rmrfslash> I just deleted my sources.list file accidentally (Ubuntu 12.04). Is there a way to regenerate it?
[15:10] <flami> panset: you could make a continer with whatever new distro, there are sometimes issues with libc being to new for the kernel though
[15:11] <rmrfslash> or if someone could just paste theirs somewhere, that would work
[15:11] <eno_> Can I using Clustering for my web server?
[15:11] <bazhang> eno_, with a single server?
[15:11] <eno_> no
[15:12] <bazhang> rmrfslash, 12.04 in #ubuntu+1 please
[15:12] <DJones> rmrfslash, You're probably better asking in #ubuntu+1 while you're using 12.04
[15:12] <eno_> maybe  2 servers
[15:13] <bl4val> .
[15:14] <mustmodify> sparky: If you responded I must have missed it.
[15:15] <mustmodify> sparky: can you give me a push? Something about X using software for my mouse instead of hardware?
[15:17] <jsebean> Hey folks, I have ubuntu 12.04 beta 2 installed (64bit). I am trying to get OpenJDK running. I can't find OpenJDK in my software centre so I tried the command sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jre and it installed, however, when i try to run minecraft openjdk doesnt appear int he open with
[15:18] <auronandace> jsebean: #ubuntu+1 for 12.04 until release
[15:18] <jsebean> auronandace: ??
[15:19] <auronandace> jsebean: please /join #ubuntu+1 to get help with 12.04
[15:19] <SmartTowel> is there anyone else in the world seeing this issue on ubuntu? "We had a problem loading Flash. You may have a Flash blocker installed.   If so, please disable the blocker (or add an exception) and reload to  start listening."
[15:20] <randomperson> i have a question about ubuntu server
[15:20] <SmartTowel> i've tried everything and can't get this to work
[15:20] <Lily`h> test
[15:20] <r_iri1989> hello
[15:20] <auronandace> !test | Lily`h
[15:20] <Scunizi> I'm looking for a way to change the *default* paper size in gscan2pdf from A4 to Letter.  Any help appriciated
[15:21] <r_iri1989> Does any have experienced issues with wicd, where wicd connect to the AP normally, but doesn't get internet access?
[15:21] <randomperson> can i install joomla on ubuntu server?
[15:21] <Lily`h> I was actually testing the text features.
[15:21] <mandza> hi
[15:21] <jinx__> jinx
[15:21] <Scunizi> randomperson: no problem
[15:22] <tocsick> hey does anyone here know what folder evolution uses to store email messages? evo 2.28, the gnome 2 version
[15:22] <mandza> i had install hugin panorama on my ubuntu 11.10 and i can not open it
[15:22] <Lily`h> I think mIRC is so much better than xChat :/
[15:22] <mandza> it crash immideately
[15:22] <r_iri1989> Lily`h: have you considered irssi?
[15:22] <mandza> immediately *
[15:22] <Lily`h> Never heard about it.
[15:23] <Scunizi> mandza: I have not had that issue.
[15:23] <r_iri1989> it's a great console based client
[15:23] <randomperson> Scunizi what would i need for that? just PHP and Apache2 installed?
[15:23] <Lily`h> Nice, gonna check this out, thanks !
[15:23] <r_iri1989> has anybody experienced issues with wicd where wicd connect to the AP normally, but can't get internet access?
[15:23] <brontosaurusrex> finnaly updated my old intranet server from 9.10 to 10.04 and noticing some magic: mp4/h.264 videos can be seeked without preloading in html5 mode on chrome..., is it a chrome magic or a combo of smarter apache and chrome, or some other mistery?
[15:24] <Scunizi> randomperson: there's an easy way to install all that is needed.. hang on a sec.
[15:24] <randomperson> Scunizi thanks i love easy ways, much less involved :)
[15:24] <rootworm> hi im having grub troubles
[15:25] <rootworm> how can i use lilo
[15:25] <rootworm> i dont know how to do this and im new to terminals
[15:25] <Scunizi> randomperson: follow my "following" questions to the channel and hopefully someone will be able to answer me.. :)
[15:25] <tjh_> hi,i have a problem with vsftpd on ubuntu.it gives a "could not bind listening ipv6 socket when starting it.i am running it as root
[15:25] <rurufufuss> how do I make the command stunnel default to stunnel4, instead of stunnel3?
[15:26] <ratcheer> rootworm: Is is straight Ubuntu or multi-boot?
[15:26] <Pici> rurufufuss: Check to see whether /usr/bin/stunnel is a symlink to /usr/bin/stunnel3, if it is, re-point it to /usr/bin/stunnel4
[15:27] <Scunizi> Using Apt, how do I call the *choice* menu to install an apache web server?
[15:27] <bazhang> Scunizi, tasksel ?
[15:27] <Scunizi> bazhang: that's it.. couldn't remember.. so sudo apt-get tasksel?
[15:27] <rurufufuss> Pici: what command to utilize for repointing binaries?
[15:27] <Pici> rurufufuss: ln -s <target> <linklocation>
[15:28] <tjh_> anyone know of a easy to set up ftp server for ubuntu?
[15:28] <rootworm> hiya bazhang
[15:28] <tmus> hi guys - the procfs upstart "service" sets some sysctl values that overrides values set from my /etc/network/interfaces post-up scripts. What's the proper way to avoid this?
[15:29] <rurufufuss> Pici: turns out /usr/bin/stunnel is some kind of perl wrapper
[15:29] <Pici> rurufufuss: hmm, not sure then. I was just looking at the output of apt-file show stunnel4
[15:29] <Scunizi> bazhang: how do I call tasksel?  tried sudo tasksel, sudo apt-get tasksel, sudo apt tasksel
[15:30] <rurufufuss> Pici: would it be safe to remove this file and put a ln -s on it?
[15:30] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Tasksel  Scunizi
[15:30] <auronandace> !tasksel | Scunizi
[15:30] <Pici> rurufufuss: I don't know enough about stunnel to tell you either way.
[15:30] <Scunizi> auronandace: thanks.. didn't know the bot had that info..
[15:31] <rurufufuss> Pici: ah ok, thanks anyways, tempted to do it but not feeling brave enough
[15:31] <Pici> rurufufuss: Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
[15:31] <auronandace> Scunizi: nor did i until a few seconds ago (just checked in a pm with ubottu) :)
[15:31] <dicannamas> i am trying to decompress a zip in a folder and i get a messega saying i dont have permition...how do i  get to do so?
[15:31] <rurufufuss> Pici: no, thank you at any rate!
[15:32] <dicannamas> ubuntu oneiric here
[15:32] <tocsick> hey can someone help me restore evolution?
[15:32] <tocsick> the auto backup/restore process isn't working
[15:33] <randomperson> auronandace do you know if there is a way to use tasksel to install ubuntu server?
[15:34] <auronandace> randomperson: sorry, i've never used tasksel
[15:34] <Scunizi> randomperson: yes.. choose LAMP.. that is the ubuntu apache server .. Linux.. Apache.. MySQL.. PHP = LAMP
[15:34] <xibalba> randomperson, install ubuntu server from where ?
[15:34] <xibalba> ubuntu desktop?
[15:35] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Tasksel  randomperson
[15:35] <Scunizi> randomperson: you already have the Linux part of the equation
[15:35] <ironm> randomperson, you need ubuntu server image
[15:35] <Scunizi> ironm: not true
[15:35] <randomperson> xibalba i have shell access on a computer without a CD drive but it has no operating system on it
[15:35] <r_iri1989> has anybody experienced issues with wicd where wicd connect to the AP normally through wifi, but can't get internet access?
[15:36] <ironm> Scunizi, to make an offline installation quite sure ;)
[15:36] <Scunizi> randomperson: you trying to install LAMP on that machine?
[15:36] <randomperson> Scunizi this is another question this one is for a friend who screwed his server
[15:36] <Scunizi> ironm: true.. don't think he's doing an offline install..
[15:36] <Scunizi> randomperson: ah ok. sorry
[15:36] <dubaco1> hi, i just got a asus k53u with a  amd vision e2 cpu which ubuntu iso should i use?
[15:36] <randomperson> Scunizi & auronandace thanks for the combined help
[15:37] <dicannamas> i am trying to decompress a zip file and when i do so a get a message saying that i dont have the right permission to decompress in that folder...what should i do?
[15:37] <ironm> Scunizi, may be you know: are there some plans to include MariaDB packages for ubuntu server Precise 12.04 ? .. deb http://mirrors.fe.up.pt/pub/mariadb/repo/5.3/ubuntu oneiric main
[15:37] <Pici> ironm: Please don't crosspost #ubuntu+1 questions into here.
[15:37] <Scunizi> ironm: sorry.. no idea.. #ubuntu-server might answer that one.
[15:39] <ironm> why Pici ? .. it looks like no one answers such question in #ubuntu+1
[15:39] <dubaco1> hi, i just got a asus k53u with a  amd vision e2 cpu which ubuntu iso should i use? pici
[15:39] <Pici> ironm: because its offtopic for this channel. Thats why we have a separate channel for that release.
[15:40] <ironm> well .. you are right Pici
[15:40] <dicannamas> how do i move a folder to a another location from the terminal?
[15:40] <dubaco1> hi, i just got a asus k53u with a  amd vision e2 cpu which ubuntu iso should i use? Pici
[15:40] <Scunizi> dubaco1: you have a choice.. 32 bit or 64.. your choice..
[15:40] <dubaco1> Scunizi: whats the difference?
[15:41] <genii-around> dicannamas: mv /path1/filename1 /path2
[15:41] <wylde> dicannamas, mv /orig/directory/something.txt /new/directory/something.txt also see man mv
[15:41] <dicannamas> thank you
[15:41] <Scunizi> 32 bits :) .. for the most part, for the average user.. not much.. depends on how much ram you have and what you're going to do with it
[15:42] <Scunizi> dubaco1: see above
[15:42] <Scunizi> dubaco1: do you have 4 gig of ram or more?  will you be processing RAW photo files? Doing video editing?
[15:42] <randomperson> if i use the ubuntu live cd from tasksel wouldnt i be able to install server from that? like i said ive got shell access still(thank god) but no OS
[15:43] <dubaco1> 6gb of ram
[15:43] <dubaco1> http://uk.asus.com/Notebooks/Versatile_Performance/K53U
[15:43] <Scunizi> dubaco1: with 6gb of ram the 32 bit version will only see 3.2gigs.. 64 will see all 6gigs..
[15:44] <itaylor57> dubaco1, if your pc supports 64bit install 64bit
[15:44] <dubaco1> i dont know if it does... does it?
[15:44] <wylde> randomperson, no, tasksel simply makes it possible to install a specific set of packages related to a common "task" set.
[15:44] <Scunizi> dubaco1: yes it does..
[15:45] <dubaco1> taack så mycket
[15:45] <wylde> !tasksel | randomperson
[15:45] <randomperson> wylde i noticed tasksel had ubuntu live cd though isnt that the same as burning a live CD? which you can then install from.
[15:46] <wylde> randomperson, I'd suggest visiting the site the bot listed as most of your questions are likely answered there.
[15:46] <uictamale1> Hello - am I supposed to be able to run ubuntu one from the command line?
[15:46] <dubaco1> hej då tack för hjälpen :)
[15:46] <uictamale1> I'm getting nothing but 'could not open display' errors
[15:47] <Scunizi> dubaco1: english please.. in this channel
[15:47] <wylde> randomperson, I've never used the option altho it may be possible. Check the site the bot listed, it probably has the answer there.
[15:47] <randomperson> wylde i didnt see it, but thats were i noticed it had the live cd option
[15:48] <Scunizi> !install > Scunizi
[15:48] <wylde> randomperson, it didn't give any description to it's actual function? ... moment
[15:49] <sunredsky> does ubuntu have a 'help' somewhere.  I'm trying to figure out keyboard shortcuts for switching between terminal windows now, but I always have questions like this
[15:49] <Scunizi> randomperson: if you're trying to do a remote install check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and http://tinyurl.com/3exghs
[15:50] <Scunizi> randomperson: although if you have remote access to the machine.. how is that possible without it still having the OS installed.. did the desktop just fail for your friend?
[15:51] <wylde> randomperson, they should really give a little more detail to what the options do... all I really noticed was "ubuntu-live Ubuntu live CD (extra packages installed on the Ubuntu LiveCD) ". Beyond that all I can suggest is trying it.. Although I honestly don't think it does what you want it to.
[15:51] <randomperson> Scunizi he has some kind of shell OS that lets him access the machine but can actually do anything its very odd IMO
[15:52] <Scunizi> randomperson:  and are you accessing via ssh?
[15:53] <randomperson> no he has physical access but no cd drive and no USB
[15:53] <Scunizi> randomperson: no.. I mean your access to the machine.. I thought it was remote and wondered how you were doing that
[15:53] <randomperson> Scunizi i need to do something like PXE server load but dont have one set up
[15:54] <wylde> !ltsp | randomperson
[15:54] <randomperson> Scunizi my friend has the physical machine but he pulled out the CD and USB and trashed them
[15:54] <wylde> randomperson, I'm actually on my thin client in the garage right now, using LTSP.
[15:54] <Scunizi> randomperson: those links should show you how to do that.. and a minimal web install after which you can add the packages you want like LAMP
[15:55] <Scunizi> randomperson: gotta run c-u and good luck
[15:55] <ironm> is there an easy way to install third party packages (not included in ubuntu sever) with all dependencies for offline installation (without internet connectivity)? Thank you in advance for any hints.
[15:56] <spyvsspy> can I enter two entries into /etc/hosts for the same domain
[15:56] <auronandace> ironm: we can't support 3rd party packages here
[15:57] <spyvsspy> ie, I want to point the hostname to 2 different IPs, depending on whether it is on an external or internal network
[15:57] <wylde> !aptoncd | ironm
[15:58] <ironm> great .. thanks a lot wylde  .. maybe there is also a text based gui
[15:58] <wylde> ironm, there likely is
[15:59] <wylde> !offline > ironm
[15:59] <ironm> thanks a lot wylde :)
[15:59] <wylde> glad to help :)
[16:03] <Pescador12> anyone using gnome 3.4 in ubuntu 11.10?
[16:08] <auronandace> Pescador12: even if they were, it isn't supported
[16:11] <drecute> would you recommend ubuntu for a cdn?
[16:12] <Pescador12> auronandace: hummm I see
[16:12] <elijah> Does anyone use Libreoffice? I have a field I made for a section header, everytime I update it it ripples through every page. The unlink option is greyed out, it is basically mirroring the frame everywhere, plus it puts it on every page. If I copy the frame it does the same thing. I like that it automagically puts itself on every page but I would like to have different content. #libreoffice is dead, I asked there and have been searching t
[16:12] <elijah> I can send you a link to the document if you like
[16:14] <MarcoGuest> I'd just tested the latest 12.04 beta and saw that maximized apps no longer hide the dash. Is there a way to re-enable the old behaviour for maximized apps to hide the dash?
[16:14] <drecute> would you recommend ubuntu for a cdn?
[16:15] <xangua> MarcoGuest: #ubuntu+1 for pangolin
[16:15] <MarcoGuest> xangua: ? It will be in the release after pangolin?
[16:15] <waxstone> !12.04 | MarcoGuest
[16:15] <xangua> !pangolin | MarcoGuest
[16:16] <MarcoGuest> thanks!
[16:17] <waxstone> You're Welcome
[16:17] <elijah> nevermind, Libreoffice was not showing the header outline and it was in the header
[16:17] <waxstone> drecute,  cnd=Canadian? ;P
[16:18] <drecute> cdn = content delivery network
[16:19] <satyanash> Hi, How can I get the sizes of all directories in the current folder ?
[16:19] <pg345> satyanash: du -sh *
[16:19] <satyanash> pg345, aah.. -s
[16:20] <satyanash> pg345, does it take a while ?
[16:20] <pg345> depends how big the directories are
[16:20] <satyanash> pg345, if you have ~400GB  of data?
[16:21] <pg345> yes it will take a couple minutes
[16:22] <satyanash> pg345, okay thanks.
[16:23] <pg345>  satyanash: there's a program called baobab that i think is installed by default on ubuntu and it's graphical
[16:24] <satyanash> pg345, this is a server. :)
[16:25] <Iamafish> The ubuntu update servers are really slow. Is there a way to change them to a faster server.
[16:25] <MonkeyDust> Iamafish  define 'slow'
[16:26] <Iamafish> 5-10 KB/s :)\
[16:26] <Iamafish> It is not on my end.
[16:26] <bazhang> Iamafish, sure, in synaptic package manager, choose another server
[16:26] <Iamafish> Ah okay. I didn't know if I had that option. Thanks.
[16:28] <flami> Hah finally... 55 gigaflops in linpack. .... all this trouble getting the nvidia driver 295 installed wasnt completely in vain. see ya
[16:28] <bjodah> Iamafish: edit the /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:29] <bjodah> there is a tool which calculates the fastest servers for you and updates accordingly
[16:29] <pg345> what is the procedure to disable the guest account?
[16:30] <bjodah> Iamafish: http://askubuntu.com/questions/37753/how-can-i-get-apt-to-use-a-mirror-close-to-me
[16:30] <ironm> !live
[16:31] <MonkeyDust> pg345  http://askubuntu.com/questions/62564/how-do-i-disable-the-guest-session#62566
[16:31] <pg345> thanks
[16:33] <satyanash> in screen, how do I do a horizontal split ?
[16:34] <satyanash> I can't seem to find it in ^a |
[16:34] <satyanash> I can't seem to find it in ^a ?
[16:34] <NewWorld> satyanash:  I remember there was a patch written to add that functionality
[16:34] <jrib> satyanash: use tmux :)
[16:35] <satyanash> NewWorld, I knwo how to add vertical split.. | I want two windows on top of one another.
[16:35] <llutz> satyanash: ctrl-a S
[16:35] <satyanash> That feature exsited before that patch came..
[16:35] <pg345> satyanash: i think C-a S after you have 2 windows
[16:35] <satyanash> llutz, thanks
[16:36] <kantlivelong> are there any ppas for the latest nvidia driver?
[16:37] <satyanash> jrib, it had so many features that I was too overwhelmed.. :) Maybe some other day.
[16:37] <jrib> satyanash: well you don't have to use all the features
[16:38] <bazhang> kantlivelong, do the ppa search at launchpad
[16:38] <kantlivelong> bazhang: i think i  just found it ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates
[16:38] <kantlivelong> seems appropriate
[16:39] <herpakore> clear
[16:41] <balleyne> having trouble with a printer, HP LaserJet P1005. Was working a few months back. Now, lsusb shows it as connected, but CUPS doesn't see it. When I try to reinstall, CUPS doesn't notice it's connected even though lsusb displays it. Help?
[16:41] <jonathanellis> I am having problems with google chrome on Ubuntu 11.10. Chrome keeps crashing unexpectedly. I have googled for this problem but the only answers I find are for windows. I have already tried uninstalling, deleting the hidden chrome folder in my home directory and reinstalling but I still have the problem
[16:42] <sddhrthrt> jonathanellis: What version of chromium are you using? Are you using chromium at all?
[16:42] <balleyne> jonathanellis, are you using the proprietary Google Chrome? Or Chromium, from the Ubuntu repositories?
[16:43] <sddhrthrt> balleyne: bang!
[16:43] <jonathanellis> How do I find out which version of chrome or chromium I am using?
[16:43] <balleyne> sddhrthrt, hehe
[16:43] <MonkeyDust> jonathanellis  help > about
[16:43] <sddhrthrt> go to wrench menu>about chromimum
[16:44] <sddhrthrt> MonkeyDust: or directly at wrench>about
[16:45] <MonkeyDust> yes
[16:46] <sddhrthrt> ell, jonathanellis ?
[16:46] <sddhrthrt> *well, jonathanellis ?
[16:46] <thiebaude> :)
[16:47] <jonathanellis> I am using google chrome 17.0.963.83 and I have the google chrome repository so I think it's the google version. I think I downloaded it from google
[16:47] <dell> hello everyone
[16:47] <thiebaude> Chrome stays in the system tray, how do i un enable it?
[16:48] <xT_Bash> hey folks
[16:48] <thiebaude> on gnome-classic
[16:48] <thiebaude> hey xT_Bash
[16:48] <yzhd> Yesterday, I could see filesystem (windows files, I'm dual booting), but today it's gone. Anyone knows how to get it back ?
[16:48] <erkan_> hy
[16:48] <xT_Bash> i am having a prob with ubuntu server
[16:48] <SilverFox> I'd like to change a keybinding for unity-2d, but I'm not sure what the keyname is for the media key on my laptop, how can I figure that out?
[16:48] <bazhang> yzhd, wubi install?
[16:49] <xT_Bash> nah
[16:49] <yzhd> bazhang, nope, installed ubuntu on another partition (ext4 and swap)
[16:49] <bazhang> xT_Bash, try #ubuntu-server
[16:49] <xT_Bash> oh k :)
[16:50] <sddhrthrt> jonathanellis: I cannot help you much about google chrome, but it definitely is worth it to install chromium from ubuntu repositories. All you have to do is uninstall chrome, remove that repository, and install chromium.
[16:51] <daninoz> I just installed Ubuntu 11.10 and it works great. I have an ATI 6880, do I really need the privative drivers?
[16:51] <yzhd> sddhthrt, what is the difference? I haven't noticed anything
[16:51] <balleyne> jonathanellis, also, you'll likely have better support with the libre Chromium from Ubuntu's repositories than the proprietary Google Chrome from Google's repos
[16:51] <jonathanellis> sddhrthrt: If I do that, will extensions like offline gmail still work?
[16:51] <sddhrthrt> yzhd: He has problems of crashing
[16:51] <sddhrthrt> jonathanellis: cant really help you on that ,i haven't used it
[16:52] <yzhd> do I need to type the person I'm typing to everything I want to type to him? can't I just click on his name or something ?
[16:52] <sddhrthrt> balleyne: jonathanellis absolutely. <3 community!
[16:52] <jrib> !tab | yzhd
[16:52] <yzhd> wow.. that was bad english
[16:52] <sddhrthrt> yzhd: that's a command.
[16:52] <sddhrthrt> yzhd: saw the output
[16:52] <sddhrthrt> yzhd: ?
[16:52] <balleyne> sddhrthrt, Chromium supports all the same extensions, as far as I've heard. Google Chrome is basically Chromium, plus some Google branding and a few Google tracking features. But, since Chromium is libre, it's in the Ubuntu repos and is likely better tested/supported and such.
[16:53] <yzhd> sddhrthrt, it's working :D
[16:53] <balleyne> oops, meant to direct that to jonathanellis -- see ^^
[16:53] <sddhrthrt> balleyne: yes. so its better, right?
[16:53] <yzhd> sddhrthrt, so much more easier
[16:53] <sddhrthrt> yzhd: you mean?
[16:53]  * jrib looks at sddhrthrt's nickand agrees that tab is a good thing :)
[16:53] <yzhd> sddhrthrt,  the tab thing
[16:53] <sddhrthrt> yzhd: haha :)
[16:53] <balleyne> sddhrthrt, yeah, I'd definitely use Chromium over Chrome :)
[16:53] <yzhd> sddhrthrt, btw, you know how to fix my storage thing ? :D
[16:53] <sddhrthrt> jrib: how do you do that?
[16:53] <jrib> sddhrthrt: /me
[16:53] <sddhrthrt> yzhd: yes.
[16:54] <jonathanellis> balleyne: Thanks. I will try it
[16:54] <sddhrthrt> try this:
[16:54] <yzhd> sddhrthrt, Yesterday, I could see filesystem (windows files, I'm dual booting), but today it's gone. Anyone knows how to get it back ?
[16:54] <jeremydei> what's the best channel to ask about broken ruby1.9 packages in precise?
[16:54] <sddhrthrt> yzhd: have you tried manually mounting?
[16:54] <yzhd> sddhrthrt, haven't tried anything yet :D
[16:54] <sddhrthrt> mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdax /path/to/mount/point
[16:54] <sddhrthrt> ?
[16:54] <jeremydei> oh, ubuntu+1, nvrmind
[16:55] <balleyne> I've got a printer that used to work with Ubuntu, but now CUPS doesn't recognize it, even though lsusb does. Have tried reinstalling drivers. Any tools I can use in between CUPS GUI and lsusb to see if I can find it?
[16:55] <yzhd> sddhrthrt, can't I use gparted ?
[16:55] <sddhrthrt> not to mount
[16:55] <sddhrthrt> afaik
[16:55] <bazhang> balleyne, what does linuxprinting.org say about that printer
[16:55] <satyanash> pg345, should it take so long.
[16:55] <yzhd> sddhrthrt, what shall I type in mount ponit ?
[16:56] <sddhrthrt> first make a directory in (preferably) /mnt
[16:56] <sddhrthrt> like
[16:56] <sddhrthrt> sudo /mnt/disk
[16:56] <sddhrthrt> and then mount --t ntfs-3g /dev/sdax /mnt/disk
[16:56] <pg345> satyanash: not sure how long it should take. maybe you can try the command on a small directory to confirm it is working (but it should)
[16:56] <sddhrthrt> if it works, tell me.
[16:56] <yzhd> sddhrthrt, command not found
[16:56] <MonkeyDust> yzhd  create a folder with an easy name, then type sudo mount [device] [that name]
[16:56] <sddhrthrt> mount?
[16:56] <sddhrthrt> yzhd: mount? not found?
[16:56] <pg345> satyanash: you might also try one directory at a time if there aren't too many
[16:57] <daninoz> what's the difference between the default drivers and the privative drivers for ATI cards ?
[16:57] <satyanash> pg345, okay.
[16:57] <yzhd> sddhrthrt, sudo: /mnt/disk: command not found
[16:57] <sddhrthrt> sorry
[16:57] <sddhrthrt> sudo mkdir /mnt/disk
[16:57] <sddhrthrt> yzhd: my bad!
[16:57] <yzhd> sddhrthrt,  np :D ok, it worked
[16:57] <sddhrthrt> yzhd: now,
[16:57] <sddhrthrt> yzhd: mount /dev/sdax /mnt/disk -t ntfs-3g
[16:58] <subz3r0> danioz: 3d acceleration. but its not that easy to install the drivers. the build in drivers wont work that good
[16:58] <sddhrthrt> yzhd: assuming your windws partition is ntfs
[16:58] <yzhd> yep
[16:58] <subz3r0> danioz: ati under linux is almost pain in the a.....
[16:58] <sddhrthrt> subz3r0: have found the Additional Drivers (jockey) suggestions good!
[16:58] <subz3r0> anyway ati is crap. but thats my point of view ;)
[16:58] <sddhrthrt> subz3r0: No, it's been good till now in Ubuntu
[16:58] <SilverFox> I'd like to change a keybinding for unity-2d, but I'm not sure what the keyname is for the media key on my laptop, how can I figure that out, so I can put it into gconf under metacity?
[16:58] <subz3r0> and of course it was off topic .. so nvm ;)
[16:58] <balleyne> bazhang, says it works mostly, and I was using it through most of 2011. but I only use it every few months, and recently it's just disappeared as far as CUPS is concerned... had to install a driver from source to get it working though.
[16:59] <sddhrthrt> anyone, offtopic, how do you disable these 'has left' and 'has joined' notices in irssi?
[16:59] <yzhd> click on options
[16:59] <yzhd> there is an option to disable it there
[16:59] <subz3r0> sddhrthrt, im still trying to get the e350 to work with x264 full hd movies. its pain in the ...
[16:59] <bazhang> !quietirssi | sddhrthrt
[17:00] <bazhang> yzhd, thats not right
[17:00] <daninoz> sddhrthrt, so I try the jockey drives before install the privative ?
[17:00] <SilverFox> yzhd: 'click on options' in irssi?!?
[17:00] <subz3r0> danioz, yes
[17:01] <bazhang> sddhrthrt, and thats perfectly on topic here
[17:01] <sddhrthrt> bazhang: thanks!!!
[17:01] <sddhrthrt> :)
[17:01] <SilverFox> yes, thanks.
[17:01] <bazhang> yzhd, if you dont know, please dont answer
[17:01] <SilverFox> +1
[17:02] <daninoz> sddhrthrt, subz3r0, Ok thanks
[17:02] <sddhrthrt> bazhang: nevermind, he's new.
[17:02] <sddhrthrt> daninoz: yes, try.
[17:02] <yzhd> bazhang, ??? in freenode, I see options.. I click on it.. and there's an option to disable has left/joined stuff...
[17:03] <sddhrthrt> yzhd: no, irssi is the program we use to access freenode.. :) they're different.
[17:03] <bazhang> yzhd, irssi is command line only
[17:04] <wylde> irssi = no clicky clicky...
[17:04] <subz3r0> irssi = super l33t ;)
[17:04] <SilverFox> lol @ 'click in freenode'
[17:04] <bazhang> lets get back on topic please
[17:04] <sddhrthrt> wylde: subz3r0 SilverFox yaay!!!
[17:05] <subz3r0> anyway, wish you guys a nice weekend. cya
[17:07] <sddhrthrt> cya!
[17:10] <SilverFox> not sure if there is a more elegant way, but I found the keyname by using ccsm, which has some 'grab key' options. I used that to learn the name, cancel my proposed changes in ccsm, then start gconf to set the binding.
[17:17] <sddhrthrt> !quietirssi
[17:17] <lcc> does the ubuntu one music store distribute ogg or mp3?
[17:17] <POVaddct> irssi rocks
[17:18] <sddhrthrt> POVaddct: totally!
[17:18] <JMOB> Seeing a couple of packages in the repositories for reading/writing HFS filesystems.  Unclear what I need/what is recommended.  Any advice?
[17:18] <thunder1212> how to enable desktop-logout sound
[17:18] <sddhrthrt> thunder1212: there's something like tat? :D
[17:21] <thunder1212> sddhrthrt: what' s tat?
[17:23] <SilverFo1> tat is the process of making a knotted lace with a shuttle.
[17:23] <SilverFo1> sometimes its slang for a tattoo, as well.
[17:25] <nannomi> \hi
[17:25] <nannomi> \list
[17:26] <thunder1212> sddhrthrt: ??
[17:26] <rodd> Hi, I use ubuntu 10.04 lts on a decent dell box. All works fine, but after some hours the system gets really slow, I have desktop effects turned off, the only things that keep running are nginx, php, firefox, netbeans/java and a chat client
[17:26] <rodd> what could be causing this? doesn't seem like memory leak from firefox neither netbeans, as even killing them it stays way too slow
[17:27] <rodd> does anyone know a tool that I can profile all thats going on on my system
[17:27] <thunder1212> i have some doubt regarding  my laptop .. its still under waarranty.. it does not shut down
[17:27] <rodd> and perhaps find the bottleneck?
[17:28] <MonkeyDust> rodd  there's htop
[17:28] <ironm> hello. does anyone know if the following iso image would boot from a USB stick on "old" PowerPC based MACmini? Thank you in advance for any hints. ... http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily/current/precise-alternate-powerpc.iso
[17:29] <MonkeyDust> !precise| ironm
[17:29] <ironm> thank you MonkeyDust :)
[17:29] <bubblehouse> rodd also
[17:30] <bubblehouse> 'top' from command line... i'm not sure htop is on all ubuntu installs
[17:30] <spyder89> when installing ubuntu on a mac g5 tower that is pre intel processors does any other operating system neeed to be installed first? osx? I low level formatted my drives before I installed ubuntu and it doesn't boot
[17:30] <rodd> I've used top
[17:30] <rodd> but didnt help much
[17:30] <rodd> i mean, doesnt look like there's something consuming memory or cpu
[17:31] <rodd> maybe it could be my hdd
[17:31] <rodd> htop looks good,
[17:31] <rodd> will keep it on and an eye on it, thanks
[17:31] <matt__> JMOB, I think hfsutils is for HFS volumes
[17:31] <thunder1212> i hvae a dell vostro laptop.. and it does not shutdown
[17:32] <matt__> JMOB, and hfsplus is for HFS+ volumes (most likely the one you want)
[17:32] <JMOB> great.  Also seeing hfsprogs...different?  That's for partitioning, yeah?
[17:32] <matt__> JMOB, yea partitioning
[17:33] <ironm> MonkeyDust, sorry ... I meant the "older" ubuntu live image like: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/oneiric/daily-live/20111012/oneiric-desktop-powerpc.iso
[17:33] <JMOB> What about hfsplus: "Tools to access hfs+ volumes"
[17:34] <lesshaste> right clicking a link in firefox freezes the browser for about 10 seconds
[17:34] <lesshaste> any ideas what might be going on?
[17:34] <MonkeyDust> ironm  as a live cd/usb doesnt change anything, best way to find out is by trying
[17:34] <rodd> lesshaste, too much addons?
[17:34] <lesshaste> rodd,  no addons
[17:35] <rodd> java is eating my cpu
[17:35] <spyder89> powerpc question? anyone up for it?
[17:37] <ironm> MonkeyDust, yes ... I am not sure if it is possible at all to boot from an USB stick on "old" PowerPC based MAC mini
[17:37] <ironm> spyder89, what is your powerpc question?
[17:38] <spyder89> i installed ubuntu on powermac g5 today and having trouble with yaboot
[17:38] <spyder89> doesn't boot to linux
[17:38] <spyder89> i low level formatted the 2 drives that are in the tower before installing ubuntu
[17:39] <ironm> spyder89, I can remember that I needed to play with the yaboot command interface (using CD or DVD) on my old MAC mini
[17:39] <ironm> and also after installation to HDD
[17:40] <spyder89> do you remember the command to edit the yaboot.conf
[17:40] <ironm> no
[17:40] <JMOB> matt__, can't seem to find the difference on the web.  I suppose I could install both packages, but would they be likely to conflict?
[17:40] <lesshaste> how do you install acroread in oneiric?
[17:40] <bazhang> lesshaste, medibuntu.org repos?
[17:40] <pretypeegirl> hi
[17:40] <lesshaste> bazhang, thanks
[17:41] <bubblehouse> rodd: could try ps with some extra commands
[17:41] <marcules> I can't shut down my unit, any ideas? I had this problem after upgrading -- (well the problem was bigger, but I solved it.. but seams I did mess up somewhere)
[17:41] <matt__> JMOB, hfsutils has a homepage that says it doesn't support hfs+
[17:41] <katy> hello!
[17:41] <mkultra_> hi katy
[17:41] <bubblehouse> rodd: i found this: ps -auxf | sort -nr -k 3 | head -3
[17:41] <matt__> JMOB, here: http://www.mars.org/home/rob/proj/hfs/
[17:41] <rodd> thanks, will give it a try
[17:42] <rodd> but i'm pretty sure it's netbeans thats consuming my whole pc
[17:42] <lesshaste> right clicking a link in firefox freezes the browser for about 10 seconds
[17:42] <lesshaste> any ideas what might be going on?
[17:42] <Alexanderchr> I get the "Laptop battery critically low" whenever i unplug my computer. Is there a way to make the computer not hibernate or make the message stop?
[17:42] <JMOB> matt__, thanks; I'll take a look.
[17:42] <rodd> "bad ps syntax"
[17:42] <bubblehouse> probably your battery is shot Alexanderchr
[17:42] <lesshaste> bazhang, E: Package 'acroread' has no installation candidate
[17:43] <lesshaste> bazhang, Package acroread is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[17:43] <genii-around> !info acroread
[17:43] <priamo> ciao
[17:43] <priamo> !list
[17:43] <genii-around> Hm
[17:43] <Alexanderchr> bubblehouse: never had a problem with it in windows though
[17:43] <bazhang> lesshaste, just a moment
[17:43] <bubblehouse> sorry rodd!
[17:43] <lesshaste> thanks
[17:43] <mkultra_> install it from source?
[17:43] <bubblehouse> how long does it stay on without being plugged in?
[17:43] <bubblehouse> and how old is battery roughly?
[17:43] <bazhang> lesshaste, my mistake, it's now in the partner repos
[17:44] <Fyodorovna> lesshaste, open software sorces and yick on the canonoical open source repo up date then try again.
[17:44] <mkultra_> lesshaste, http://get.adobe.com/reader/
[17:44] <bazhang> !partner | lesshaste
[17:44] <genii-around> lesshaste: apt-cache policy acroread  on my machine shows it's in Canonical's partner repository
[17:44] <Fyodorovna> s/yick/tick
[17:44] <thunder1212> can someone tell me how to enable the ubuntu desktop-logout sound..
[17:44] <Alexanderchr> The battery is ~1.5 years and can stay on 1-2h depending on how i use the computer
[17:44] <foobArrr> how do I change titlebar double click behaviour with compiz? I want (un)maximize
[17:44] <bazhang> mkultra_, better to use the partner repo and the package manager
[17:45] <mkultra_> its certainly easier bazhang
[17:45] <lesshaste>  apt-cache policy acroread
[17:45] <lesshaste> acroread:
[17:45] <lesshaste>   Installed: (none)
[17:45] <lesshaste>   Candidate: (none)
[17:45] <lesshaste>   Version table:
[17:45] <FloodBot1> lesshaste: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:45] <lesshaste> oops
[17:45] <bazhang> lesshaste, enable the partner repo yet?
[17:45] <JMOB> System Update needs reboot (for something else)...thanks, matt__.
[17:45] <mkultra_> owned
[17:45] <lesshaste> bazhang, let me try that
[17:45] <bubblehouse> Alexanderchr: I suspect bad battery, but outside of my knowledge base. sorry :)
[17:46] <Alexanderchr> bubblehouse: Ok, np. Thanks for your time :)
[17:46] <cristian_c> Hi
[17:46] <cristian_c> I'm using Oneiric 11.10
[17:46] <HackerZedi> Hey
[17:46] <cristian_c> I can't see the headphone channel into alsamixer
[17:47] <cristian_c> Then I can't adjust channel volume for the headphones
[17:47] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[17:49] <HackerZedi>  You can use the same volume controller you use for the speakers
[17:49] <lesshaste> bazhang, partner was the answer, thanks
[17:50] <trism> thunder1212: interestingly there actually is a logout sound at /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/stereo/desktop-logout.ogg but it seems the feature was removed from gnome, there is a very old bug about it, bug 214370
[17:51] <Busby> Hi guys I was wondering if someone could help me figure out a problem I am having with setting up a ftp server
[17:51] <luizqwerty> Busby what is your problem?
[17:52] <cristian_c> HackerZedi, thanks for the answer
[17:52] <cristian_c> HackerZedi, but I wanted to adjust it individually without touching that of the Master
[17:53] <Busby> hi luizqwerty the thing problem I am having is that I am running server 10.04 LTS, have webmin installed and I can't work out how to setup multiple accounts for remote access but each account needs to be secure
[17:53] <wylde> !webmin
[17:53] <yzhd> !android
[17:54] <dell> cristian_c: what was your question I just got back to my computer
[17:54] <mkultra_> do up vsftpd ;-)
[17:54] <zelozelos> is anyone else having issues with flash since most recent update? it says the download has failed but it also says its downloaded parts of it?
[17:54] <mkultra_> kernel uses vsftpd
[17:54] <Busby> ahhhhh I didn't know that
[17:54] <Busby> so I need to use vsftpd
[17:54] <wylde> Busby, webmin will break ubuntu
[17:54] <HackerZedi> Cristian_c, have you selected the headphone option
[17:54] <yzhd> guys, I installed ubuntu 11.10 yesterday.. so I'm pretty new.. Anything special I should do / recommended stuff ? :)
[17:54] <luizqwerty> Here, I use the vsftpd (apt-get install vsftpd), I don't like softwares like Webmin
[17:54] <gunfire007> i am using atheros AR 9287 chipset, when i am using aircrack, i am able to inject packets only in mon0 mode and not in wlan0 mode ..!! is that normal ?? or do i need to download the drivers ??
[17:54] <luizqwerty> with a simple configuration file
[17:54] <luizqwerty> look:
[17:55] <gunfire007> do ubuntu have pre-installed all such drivers ?
[17:55] <bazhang> gunfire007, #aircrack-ng
[17:55] <DoctorD> @yzhd - nothing to do or worry about. enjoy it.
[17:55] <cristian_c> HackerZedi, Where have I to do this? :)
[17:55] <DoctorD> and keep your system updated
[17:55] <zelozelos> i'm running ubuntu studio with xfce and plasma, i cant get flash to install, i checked the error, and it says that download failed and the http request was sent but error 404,not found?
[17:55] <luizqwerty> anonymous_enable=NO    chroot_local_user=NO pasv_enable=YES
[17:55] <luizqwerty> pasv_min_port=20500
[17:55] <luizqwerty> pasv_max_port=20900
[17:55] <luizqwerty> port_enable=YES
[17:55] <FloodBot1> luizqwerty: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:56] <DoctorD> luizqwerty @ use pastebin
[17:56] <zelozelos> it also has issues when i do an update, flash will not download/install
[17:56] <DoctorD> after that, post the link link. don't copy-paste large messages in here so we can all understand each other
[17:56] <yzhd> DoctorD, what I meant was.. Any recommended apps I should install ? :D Or something special I should do to make ubuntu extra awesome ? ^^
[17:56] <gunfire007> thanks bazhang :)
[17:57] <luizqwerty> http://paste.ubuntu.com/907610/
[17:57] <DoctorD> yzhd @ well..you don't need any special software..you can visual customize it if you are interested.
[17:57] <zelozelos> yzhd, you could get glx-dock (cairo dock), and enable some of the compiz stuff thats not enabled
[17:57] <yzhd> zelozelos, thanks :D will try
[17:57] <luizqwerty> Busby, access the link
[17:58] <yzhd> I'm open for any recommendation :)
[17:58] <Busby> cool i got it thanks
[17:58] <luizqwerty> you can use this configuration file
[17:58] <zelozelos> yzhd, be carefull with compiz if you plan on changing it, its still kinda querky
[17:58] <cristian_c> dell, I wanted see the headphone channel in alsamixer
[17:58] <yzhd> zelozelos, wow... it's like on max, looks awesome!
[17:58] <luizqwerty> pay attetion with the last 4 lines (configuration of tcp ports of the passive ftp feature)
[17:59] <HackerZedi> Cristian_c, probably it'll be in the edit>Preferences or Edit>Options.I don't use Alsa Mixer so I don't exactly know where it is
[17:59] <zelozelos> i need flash, it was disabled/broken recently via update, now it wont install? what do i need to do?
[17:59] <DoctorD> yzhd @ Ubuntu doesn't need softwares like on Windows. You have the Ubuntu Software Center where you can install a lot of stuff and see each one what can do if you have time to waste..or how i said, customize it using Compiz.
[17:59] <Busby> ok so the only other question I have is this does this have a gui interface for management as I am very new to ubuntu and find it a bit easier having a gui at the moment
[17:59] <yzhd> zelozelos, what do you mean? it's dangerous to install compiz ? I don't want to screw up anything.. as I did some days ago.. had to re install ubuntu.
[17:59] <cristian_c> HackerZedi, alsamixer is executed in the terminal
[18:00] <pg345> I installed ubuntu oneiric and added kde-desktop. Everything seems to have installed correctly. However, when I try to login, I see the kde splash screen h and then a black screen with only the cursor. Is there anything special that needs to be done for it to work? I want an installation that has unity/gnome/kde available.
[18:00] <DoctorD> yzhd @ it's buggy. he means to be carefull on how you manage to edit the settings there
[18:01] <bastidrazor> pg345: you probably meant kubuntu-desktop?
[18:01] <zelozelos> yzhd, not dangerous, just a little buggy, esp if you want to enable cube or other options which arent already enabled
[18:01] <yzhd> DoctorD, I see. You think it's worth installing it?
[18:02] <yzhd> zelozelos, are there any other docks for ubuntu ? (stable), I don't really like the dock on the left side
[18:02] <pg345> bastidrazor: aptitude install kde-full
[18:02] <zelozelos> yzhd, the one on the left is unity, you can change desktop manager by logging out, and selecting another like gnome classic
[18:02] <iceroot> pg345: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[18:02] <bastidrazor> pg345: the proper package is kubuntu-desktop
[18:02] <DoctorD> yzhd @ i used to play with compiz and liked. but i prefer to use default settings and do my stuff & work at great performance. but if you feel more comfortable to have everything more smooth , then do it. also, you must have a graphic card and some good RAM
[18:03] <pg345> thanks i'll try that
[18:03] <neo1691> Hi.... Good evening. :)
[18:03] <zelozelos> yzhd, also you can install more managers, i use kde (plasma) sometimes and xfce
[18:03] <HackerZedi> Cristian_c, then try googling it because I never used it in the Terminal.I used the Gnome-ALSA-Mixer once before on my BackTrack.If you've got software center then try installing Gnome-ALSA-Mixer and use the HeadPhone vol controller from it
[18:03] <yzhd> DoctorD, how can I check my graphic card on linux ?
[18:03] <neo1691> can somebody please reply?? i am not sure whether i am properly connected to irc!!!
[18:03] <yzhd> DoctorD, ubuntu *
[18:03] <luizqwerty> Busby, if you want a GUI to manage your server resources, deinstall webmin and try Red Hat Enterprise (or any clone like Scientific Linux or CentOS)
[18:03] <zelozelos> neo1691, we read u
[18:03] <neo1691> zelozelos,  thanks :)
[18:04] <DoctorD> yzhd @ how much video memory do you have ?
[18:04] <cristian_c> HackerZedi, sorry, I don'use gnome :(
[18:04] <yzhd> DoctorD, have no idea :/ but I have 3gb ram
[18:04] <zelozelos> is flash currently broken, or is it just my system?
[18:04] <cristian_c> *don't
[18:04] <neo1691> Now , i am having a problem with gwibber. twitter and facebook both accounts are added yet notifications are there only for twitter not facebook!!
[18:04] <Busby> luizqwerty thanks for your help I will look into the info that you have given me
[18:05] <cristian_c> HackerZedi, I'm using lxde
[18:05] <DoctorD> yzhd @ you can try to see how your computers reacts when using Extra visual effects ( Right click -> change desktop background -> Visual effects tab
[18:05] <yzhd> this dock : http://lowendmac.com/ed/bgray/11bg/art/ubuntu-shot-2.jpg looks nice too. it's called docky
[18:05] <DoctorD> yzhd @ yeah. i have it a long time ago when i started to use first time ubuntu
[18:06] <Etronik> hey all,  I got really really surprised just now ! Ubuntu stayed totally unresponsive and HD churning away like mad for more than 5 minutes !! what the hell might have happened ?
[18:06] <zelozelos> yzhd, there are a few docks in the repo, and a few more online that you'll prob need to compile to work correctly
[18:06] <Etronik> I mean, I could not do anything to try to figure out what was going on...
[18:06] <HackerZedi> Cristian_C, I'm Sorry but I've never used lxde before so suggest you google you problem.
[18:06] <zelozelos> yzhd, but the one with the most is gonna be cairo (glx-dock_
[18:06] <yzhd> DoctorD, can't find visual effects tab ?
[18:06] <Etronik> I'm suspecting Firefox... is it known to do that ?
[18:07] <cristian_c> HackerZedi, I tried to google, but I found nothing :8
[18:07] <cristian_c> *:(
[18:07] <yzhd> zelozelos, I actually just want a dock that works nice (stable), I don't need that much customization. Which one do you think is the most stable?
[18:07] <sorin_> hi
[18:07] <DoctorD> yzhd @ i don't know very well the 11 version. i have 10.04 LTS.
[18:07] <DoctorD> sorin_ @ hi, Romania ?
[18:07] <iceroot> cristian_c: what is the issue? we also have #lubuntu
[18:07] <neo1691> anyone having problems with gwibber like me?? No notifications for facebook!! Only twitter.. I am on 10.04 LTS
[18:07] <sorin_> ubuntu 12.04 its ok to use?
[18:07] <iceroot> sorin_: no
[18:07] <zelozelos> yzhd, any of them in the repo will work most likely without any issues
[18:07] <sorin_> why
[18:08] <iceroot> sorin_: its a beta
[18:08] <yzhd> DoctorD, I see. Thanks anyways. Will google it ;)
[18:08] <sorin_> beta 2
[18:08] <iceroot> sorin_: as i said, its beta
[18:08] <DoctorD> yzhd: no problem. google or duckduckgo can solve you problems.
[18:08] <HackerZedi> cristian_c, Then I guess you should use the Master to change your Volume
[18:08] <iceroot> sorin_: doesnt matter if beta 1, beta 2 or beta 938475
[18:08] <cristian_c> iceroot, I can't see the headphone channel in alsamixer
[18:08] <bazhang> sorin_, discussion in #ubuntu+1
[18:08] <iceroot> cristian_c: usb headphone?
[18:08] <silentz0r> hello, not sure if this is the right channel to ask, I'm trying to forward the 8080 port so that the service on my ubuntu laptop's 8080 (connected wirelessly to my router) is accessible from the internet. The port is not accessible. Any ideas?
[18:08] <sorin_> ok to much bugs
[18:09] <cristian_c> iceroot, no, the classic jack headphones
[18:09] <cristian_c> :)
[18:09] <iceroot> cristian_c: maybe have a look at pavucontrol too (sudo apt-get install pavucontrol)
[18:09] <Etronik> Ubuntu was behaving like... OS/2 with stuck input queue or... Windows95... I'm wondoering what the hell might have happened?
[18:09] <cristian_c> iceroot, I tried paucontrol
[18:09] <cristian_c> *pavucontrol
[18:10] <rodd> so 12.04 lts will be launched by then end of april?
[18:10] <iceroot> rodd: yes
[18:10] <rodd> is it possible to update to beta?
[18:10] <Iamafish> update manager in new version of ubuntu doesn't work :(
[18:10] <rodd> from 10.04
[18:10] <cristian_c> iceroot, But I have to control better
[18:10] <cristian_c> iceroot, thanks
[18:10] <iceroot> rodd: yes, #ubuntu+1
[18:10] <rodd> thanks
[18:10] <iceroot> rodd: and please think of that 12.04 is not stable yet
[18:11] <rodd> right
[18:11] <LOOP|2> hi people
[18:12] <yzhd> DoctorD, I need to install compiz to make it work on 11.10 ^
[18:13] <cristian_c> HackerZedi, I wanted to adjust that channel individually and not together with the master, as I do for the other channels
[18:13] <yzhd> autch.. compiz is in alpha version :S
[18:14] <LOOP|2> hi have a problem, I hope anyone can help me: now I have a soundblaster audigy 1, when I install Ubuntu nothing problems, sound regulary play... when update system sound stop to play and I can't reconfigure... what I do? It's orrible
[18:15] <LOOP|2> *I have a problem
[18:15] <LOOP|2> :)
[18:16] <ironm> does APTonCD have another name yet? (oneiric) ... apt-cache search is not able to find it
[18:17] <bazhang> !info aptoncd | ironm
[18:19] <ironm> bazhang, thank you :) I am not able to install it on oneiric (using apt-get ... )
[18:19] <pg345> bastidrazor: iceroot: i installled kubuntu-desktop and when i rebooted i got the kubuntu logo instead of ubuntu and it never got to the login screen. I'll reinstall again and try that without installing the kde-full first.
[18:19] <bazhang> ironm, using all small case?
[18:19] <LOOP|2> no one can help me?
[18:19] <ironm> yes bazhang
[18:20] <bazhang> LOOP|2, you've not asked a question
[18:20] <bazhang> ironm, what error , pastebin please
[18:20] <ironm> bazhang, I should find it with apt-cache search aptoncd
[18:20] <ironm> bazhang, unable to locate package .. I did "apt-get update"
[18:20] <LOOP|2> this is my question --> 20:14:39] <LOOP|2> hi have a problem, I hope anyone can help me: now I have a soundblaster audigy 1, when I install Ubuntu nothing problems, sound regulary play... when update system sound stop to play and I can't reconfigure... what I do? It's orrible
[18:21] <ironm> bazhang, I try it on ubuntu live oneiric image
[18:21] <bazhang> LOOP|2, check that alsamixer is not muted
[18:22] <LOOP|2> I also checked it's ok, but audigy not play
[18:22] <bazhang> ironm, it may not be on the live cd
[18:22] <bazhang> LOOP|2, does pavucontrol see it
[18:23] <ironm> bazhang, sources.list entries do I need for oneiric to get this package? .. I have there on archive and secruty entries
[18:23] <LOOP|2> now I install and try
[18:23] <ironm> security
[18:24] <bazhang> ironm, universe
[18:24] <ironm> *_*
[18:28] <hellyeah> ns identify muhhaha
[18:29] <LOOP|2> bazhang: nothing volume set is perfect but not play
[18:32] <pgimeno> how can I get full descriptions of packages for oneiric?
[18:32] <ironm> bazhang, thanks a lot .. I got it
[18:33] <pgimeno> err brb
[18:33] <LOOP|2> it's possible when update it's damage kernel modules?
[18:33] <yzhd> Anyone knows why I can't open pidgin internet messenger anymore? It worked before I rebooted...
[18:34] <pgimeno> sorry, again, how do I get package descriptions in oneiric?
[18:34] <_Marcus> pgimeno: With Ubottu?
[18:35] <pgimeno> what is Ubottu?
[18:35] <ironm> pgimeno, apt-cache search <package_name> will give you a one line description
[18:35] <_Marcus> I'm guessing you don't mean ubottu then
[18:35] <ironm> pgimeno, what package?
[18:35] <Ziauddin_> hello
[18:35] <Ziauddin_> who here can criticize my 3d character?
[18:36] <genii-around> !ot | Ziauddin_
[18:36] <pgimeno> ironm: yes, I am looking for full descriptions for all packages Lucid had them but it seems Oneiric doesn't
[18:36] <yzhd> Ziauddin_, sure
[18:36] <bazhang> Ziauddin_, wrong channel
[18:36] <ironm> !aptoncd
[18:36] <tdlam> hello all I have a scanner problem in xane...its a bug I believ tells me acess to scanner is denied...anyone lese have this issue? runnimg lates version of xubuntu
[18:37] <pgimeno> ironm: was that for me?
[18:37] <mirko1> LOOP|2: actually not with the standard modules. if you have 3rd party modules you might need to reinstall them
[18:37] <ironm> pgimeno, an example
[18:37] <angs> is it safe to install wubi :)
[18:38] <AlexAnteMachina> hi all
[18:38] <dackyshawn> i want to download this page with the images using wget but cant seem to figure out how...   http://www.subways.net/iraq/404.html
[18:38] <LOOP|2> mirko1: I'm not, I've the official ubuntu modules
[18:38] <mirko1> yzhd: what happens if you run pidgin -d in a terminal window? any useful messages
[18:38] <dackyshawn> it downloads the page but doesnt include the images on it
[18:38] <pgimeno> ironm: my problem is that apt-cache show packagename shows one-line description in oneiric where it showed the full description before, how does APTonCD solve that?
[18:39] <ironm> pgimeno, sorry for confusion. APTonCD is only one package name
[18:40] <AlexAnteMachina> I'm using ubuntu 11.10 and firefox as standard browser. Since a while "save as" from the context menue wont work anymore. How can I solve this? I tried purging and reinstallation without success
[18:40] <mirko1> LOOP|2: what actual problem do you have? did you made a simple regular upgrade or a dist-upgrade?
[18:42] <pgimeno> ironm: ah, but where do I get descriptions myself? I can't be connected to this channel 24h, should I use http://packages.ubuntu.com/ every time I want a description?
[18:42] <LOOP|2> mirko1: is a regular upgrade, and this problem isn't new, every times I do the first upgrade the system stop to play
[18:42] <tdlam> is this scanner error a bug or do you know if it is solvable?
[18:42] <yzhd> mirko1,  sent you PM (logcat)
[18:43] <ironm> pgimeno, I don't know how to solve your issue .. sorry
[18:44] <pgimeno> thanks anyway ironm
[18:44] <AlexAnteMachina> I'm using ubuntu 11.10 and firefox as standard browser. Since a while "save as" from the context menue wont work anymore. How can I solve this? I tried purging and reinstallation without success
[18:44] <tdlam> i really would like to get this scanner working so I can dump windows all together
[18:46] <cranK> moin. ich habe probleme ubuntu zu installieren. hätte jemand zeit mir zu helfen ?
[18:46] <tdlam> seems its hit or miss with scanner support...its a multi function printer...printing works ok but not the scanning...got xane to see it ok but it says acess to the scanner is denied...looks like this is a bug?
[18:46] <AlexAnteMachina> I'm using ubuntu 11.10 and firefox as standard browser. Since a while "save as" from the context menue wont work anymore. How can I solve this? I tried purging and reinstallation without success
[18:46] <teodor> http://sportgod-sportgod.blogspot.com/
[18:46] <bazhang> teodor, wrong channel
[18:47] <bazhang> cranK, #ubuntu-de for german
[18:47] <spaceneedle> I'm presently using 12.04lts--I notice that the  global menu gets jumbled with the words Ubuntu desktop.  Is there a way to fix it without disabling the global menu?
[18:47] <cranK> Thanks !!!
[18:47] <escott> !precise | spaceneedle
[18:47] <wylde>   !precise | spaceneedle
[18:47] <spaceneedle> fix it!!!
[18:47] <teodor> bazhang where can i go to talk to greek people?
[18:48] <bazhang> teodor, #ubuntu-gr
[18:48] <_Marcus> spaceneedle: Tell that to #ubuntu+1
[18:48] <EvilResistance> spacebug-:  tell that to people in #ubuntu+1, that's where you can get support for the 12.04 betas
[18:49] <mirko1> yzhd:  *please* paste the output on pastebin.com and post the link here (and please don't PM without prior permission, *especially* not to post several lines of text). Thanks :-)
[18:49] <mirko1> yzhd: did you enabled a plugin before that happened? You could manually edit .purple/prefs.xml
[18:49] <mirko1> de | cranK
[18:50] <tdlam> ok anyone know where to get support for xane then? sorry just trying to nail this down tyty
[18:50] <mirko1> !de | cranK
[18:50] <foobArrr> what is the difference between notification area and indicator plugin/applet?
[18:50] <spyvsspy> how can I tell which disk linux booted?
[18:50] <yzhd> mirko1,  thanks for telling me, won't do it again. I rebooted, then I opened pidgin, but when I click on the icon, it won't open
[18:51] <vspvilli> hello need help
[18:51] <vspvilli> I installed ubuntu 11.10 on one of the SATA drives
[18:51] <mirko1> LOOP|2: ok, but what *exactly* is not working after an update?
[18:53] <vspvilli> I have two SATA drives connected to my MB
[18:53] <angs> what is the "installation size" on wubi?
[18:53] <vspvilli> and I installed on one of them with default options
[18:53] <angs> is it the size of the ubuntu to be downloaded or the allocation size for ubuntu?
[18:53] <vspvilli> everything was fine
[18:53] <vspvilli> but when I restart the machine it says disk boot failure
[18:54] <vspvilli> and not able to boot from that sata drive
[18:54] <bazhang> !enter | vspvilli
[18:54] <Guest11090> hey is there a distro that comes with allot of graphics card detection and already comes with compiz.
[18:54] <vspvilli> ok
[18:54] <angs> what is the "installation size" on wubi?  is it the size of the ubuntu to be downloaded or the allocation size for ubuntu?
[18:54] <bazhang> Guest11090, ubuntu
[18:55] <mirko1> yzhd:  the problem is here: "plugins: /usr/lib/purple-2/tcl.so is not loadable: libtk8.5.so.0: cannot open sh". i guess you have enabled some plugin which depends on a library which isn't there
[18:55] <bazhang> Guest11090, if you are polling for distros try ##linux NOT here
[18:55] <yzhd> mirko1,  hmm.. can't remember doing it :/ anyway I can... ehh.... remove it ?
[18:56] <Whyhoz> hello
[18:56] <Whyhoz> has anyone an idea how to fish this mysterious blue in flash videos?
[18:57] <Whyhoz> *fix
[18:57] <vspvilli> I installed 11.0 on a sata drive and everything went on well but when I restart the system, it says disk boot failure and does not boot from my sata drive.
[18:58] <Mart1n_> Hi, does ubuntu 12.04 will have 3d support enabled by default in nouveau drivers?
[18:58] <mirko1> yzhd: you can try to install the "tk8.5" package (maybe you have somehow removed it) and if that doesn't help copy the file "/usr/lib/libtk8.5.so.0" to /usr/lib/purple-2/
[18:59] <yzhd> mirko1, don't get mad ? :D but.. how do I do it? I'm really new to ubuntu
[18:59] <bazhang> Mart1n_, #ubuntu+1 for that
[19:00] <Mart1n_> bazhang do you know if it's sure or not confirmed yet?
[19:00] <Riton_> Hi everybody
[19:00] <bazhang> Mart1n_, the channel for that is #ubuntu+1
[19:01] <mirko1> yzhd: ok, Don't panic. :D First install the package with Synaptic or simply run the command "sudo apt-get install tk8.5" (without quotes) in a terminal window and enter your password. after that we see further.
[19:01] <Mart1n_> bazhang ok, I will go there then, thank you :)
[19:01] <Riton_> Is it the correct channel to share a boot-repair problem ?
[19:01] <itaylor57> bazhang, why did my 8gb usb become a 4 gb drive?
[19:01] <bazhang> Riton_, grub2?
[19:01] <Riton_> bazhang: the one coming with ubuntu 11.10
[19:02] <bazhang> Riton_, thats grub2
[19:02] <yzhd> mirko1,  done :D
[19:02] <Riton_> bazhang: ok
[19:02] <vspvilli> I am first time in this channel for help.  Need some guidance if this is the wrong channel.   I installed 11.0 on a sata drive and everything went on well but when I restart the system, it says disk boot failure and does not boot from my sata drive.
[19:02] <yzhd> mirko1,  still won't open :/
[19:02] <Riton_> vspvilli: where does it boot from then ?
[19:03] <Riton_> bazhang: I tried to use boot-repair which saved my life once
[19:03] <Riton_> but it didn't work this time
[19:03] <vspvilli> it simply says disk boot failure
[19:03] <Riton_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/907689/
[19:03] <vspvilli> it does not boot
[19:03] <penthium2> hello ( in first sory, I'm french, baut I'll try to speack a speudo-good english )
[19:03] <Riton_> vspvilli: ahve you tried boot-repair ?
[19:03] <penthium2> so ! I have a issu with passwd
[19:03] <penthium2> sudo -i is ok !
[19:04] <dackyshawn> what the issue penthium2
[19:04] <vspvilli> Riton_ : no, I tried to install again but after 3 times its same thing always installs fine, but when restarts it says disk boot failure.
[19:04] <penthium2> after that when I try to change password for a user the pront say : passwd authentication token manipulation error
[19:04] <dackyshawn> try sudo first?
[19:04] <penthium2> the partition / is mounted in rw
[19:04] <vspvilli> Riton_ can you give some pointer how can I do boot repair
[19:04] <Whyhoz> lol
[19:05] <Riton_> vspvilli: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[19:05] <wylde> !grub | vspvilli
[19:05] <Whyhoz> "Title: Adobe Flash Plugin 10"
[19:05] <mirko1> yzhd: ok, now run another commad "sudo apt-get --reinstall install libpurple0"
[19:05] <penthium2> and my user have the same bug when I try to change my own password
[19:05] <Whyhoz> "Discription: Adobe Flahs Player plugin version 11"
[19:05] <Whyhoz> ?
[19:06] <escott> penthium2, are you using ldap or anything special
[19:06] <dackyshawn> penthium2: can u try "cat /dev/null > /etc/shadow ?
[19:07] <yzhd> mirko1,  ok, shall I open it now ? or reboot
[19:07] <yzhd> mirko1,  it worked! Thanks you very much!!! :)
[19:07] <mirko1> yzhd: great!  my pleasure :-)
[19:07] <penthium2> escott, I disable all pam ldap and remove the ldap_pam module
[19:08] <vspvilli> Riton_1: I am using the option try Ubuntu from ubuntu CD.  Can I install boot repair in this option and repair this with opt-get option mentioned in the link
 ! I'm french ok but not noob :P
[19:09] <Riton_> vspvilli: yes
[19:10] <escott> penthium2, some website are suggesting that you might have likewise-open installed http://www.ideaexcursion.com/2009/09/11/fixing-authentication-token-manipulation-error-when-changing-passwords-with-passwd/
[19:11] <penthium2> escott, I 'm looking your link thx
[19:11] <white_magic> is there any way to extract a debian package such that the symlinks are created during extraction as well?
[19:11] <penthium2> nop ! likewise-open and other deb like likewise is not installed
[19:12] <escott> penthium2, other things to check. is the system date correct? perhaps the passwords are expired because the date is wrong
[19:12] <escott> penthium2, and double check that you have rw on /etc
[19:13] <penthium2> vendredi 30 mars 2012, 21:12:43 (UTC+0200)
[19:13] <penthium2> date ok
[19:13] <penthium2> drwxr-xr-x 160 root root 12288 2012-03-30 20:51 /etc
[19:13] <escott> penthium2, can you touch /etc/shadow and passwd?
[19:14] <quidnunc> How do I migrate postgres databases on upgrade to version 9?
[19:14] <penthium2> yep I can
[19:14] <stealthbyroot> please help with nvidia
[19:14] <penthium2> /dev/sda1 on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro,commit=0)
[19:14] <penthium2> mount ok too
[19:15] <escott> penthium2, i've never seen this before so i dont know what to make of it
[19:16] <stealthbyroot> please help with nvidia installation
[19:16] <vspvilli> Rton_1: yes I just did
[19:16] <penthium2> upgrade unbuntu 10.04 to 11.04
[19:16] <penthium2> and I've never seen that too
[19:16] <vspvilli> is there anyway I can verify this being in cd mode
[19:17] <Riton_> vspvilli: verify what ?
[19:17] <penthium2> actualy to change my password i'm using another ubuntu and I change the hash in /etc/shadows lol
[19:17] <vspvilli> the changes this repaid made
[19:17] <drounse> whats the difference between xterm and uxterm
[19:17] <Riton_> reboot ?
[19:17] <escott> penthium2, is it possible that the version of crypt is missing hash function?
[19:17] <vspvilli> I mean in any file to verify something that from where it is going to boot etc.........not sure but just asking
[19:18] <Riton_> i don't know
[19:18] <Riton_> but if you find something
[19:18] <Riton_> tell me :D
[19:18] <escott> vspvilli, the exact error message would help
[19:18] <Riton_> i can't boot either :(
[19:18] <FloodBot1> Riton_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:18] <penthium2> escott, good question ! How can I check that ?
[19:18] <escott> penthium2, no idea :)
[19:18] <penthium2> \o/
[19:19] <vspvilli> Riton_1 : let me reboot after this.
[19:19] <escott> penthium2, it sounds like something unusual has been changed in your shadow config. either you installed some alternate crypt library or have some kind of ldap/active directory setup
[19:19] <penthium2> but is a good security from cracker :D no-ones can change my pass :D
[19:19] <vspvilli> Escott: it says Disk Boot Failure
[19:20] <vspvilli> let me restart and see if I get the same message and I can capture it to paste here.  Be right back after rebooting
[19:20] <escott> vspvilli, is this coming from the bios or grub? would you know the difference?
[19:21] <penthium2> http://paste.ubuntu-fr-secours.org/src-106928
[19:21] <vspvilli> escott : not much knowledgeable on that.   just planning to switch completely from windows to ubuntu.  worked in ubuntu environment but never troubleshooted installation and boot problems.
[19:21] <tjrob> python
[19:22] <tjrob> #list
[19:22] <escott> vspvilli, ok im suspicious that your bootloader is not installed onto the mbr correctly or that the bios is not booting the correct disk
[19:22] <escott> vspvilli, are you in a livecd right now?
[19:22] <vspvilli> yes
[19:23] <vspvilli> escott: when I went to bios, I can see the master and slave disks and I installed the os on the master one
[19:24] <escott> vspvilli, so this is actually ata? wow. two disks?
[19:24] <vspvilli> escott : yes
[19:25] <vspvilli> escott: actually I have 5 disck, 2 SATA and 2 onboard IDE's and one with ULTRA DMA card
[19:25] <sddhrthrt> escott: It just got better :D
[19:25] <escott> vspvilli, and your ubuntu / is on this ultra-dma riser card. why do you have that in there? does it do raid or something
[19:26] <vspvilli> escott : I disconnected all the others and just kep SATA drives two of them and installed OS on one disk
[19:26] <escott> vspvilli, so where are you seeing anything about master/slave?
[19:26] <vspvilli> escott : when I bought that disk with 200 gb windows did not recognize fully, hence I installed that card but not for raid
[19:27] <vspvilli> escott: in bios I can see my two sata drives are showing as master0 and slave
[19:27] <escott> vspvilli, so you are not using AHCI then
[19:27] <foolove> https://mysite/get?file=bal.json&year=$year&month=$month&day=$day&hour=12   in the following url what all would i need to escape to be able to utilize properly in my script
[19:27] <foolove> i did & symbol and equals signs but im not getting data back
[19:28] <escott> vspvilli, well this config is a bit beyond me. if there is something in the bios that needs changing i would not know what it is or how to do it. i can walk you through a chroot reinstall of the bootloader onto the mbr, but thats about all i can do
[19:29] <vspvilli> escott :  may be not .  I am not  familiar with that
[19:29] <escott> vspvilli, can you identify what device "/dev/sdX#" is the ubuntu root and (if you have a boot partition what partition that is)
[19:30] <amarcolino> qucik question , is ubuntu 12.4 ready to be used as a development apache server?
[19:30] <vspvilli> escott : thanks so much for the suggestions.  I just did boot repair with the tool as suggested by Riton_1.  Let me restart the machine and I see if that fixed the problem.  Otherwise I will log back to chat again from liveCD
[19:30] <DarsVaeda> is it possible to get two application bars in unity? (the one on the left side)
[19:30] <escott> vspvilli, you might want to install the bootloader onto both disks
[19:31] <vspvilli> scott : can I get the right information about the question u asked about device from livecd by running df-k command
[19:32] <vspvilli> escott: give me few min let me try reboot this guy and see if there is any change my fate
[19:33] <MrKeuner> hello, somehow uvcvideo is not loaded on boot, when I do sudo modprobe uvcvideo lucid kernel does not complain but I do not get a /dev/video how can I fix this problem?
[19:33] <n1x> how can I swap my '=' with '+' in my keyboard layout?
[19:33] <vspvilli> escott : I did not create any partitions.  I just installed with default option on /dev/sda1 drive I thought system will take care of it.   when I try to play around with partitions, it is asking for swap partition etc, hence I thought I don't want to go in that route
[19:33] <MrKeuner> it was laoded months ago, when I last made a video conference
[19:33] <medeman> Hello. I "installed" Xubuntu 11.10 64-Bit on my USB-Stick via the start media creator (I hope that's how it's called, I use German Xubuntu). That all works great...Updates, language pack, software installations, documents and settings are all saved. The only problem is that when I try to delete something it says there's no trash folder and it also couldn't be created. Can I fix this? It really annoys that I always have to delete files via the
[19:33] <MrKeuner> is my video device dead?
[19:33] <medeman> Terminal...
[19:34] <vspvilli> escott : let me reboot this
[19:34] <vspvilli> and will be back again either way
[19:35] <rebe> When I open any program it shows up in top left but in the place that unity sidebar ends when its showed, but I have autohide on it and I wanna force programs to show up on the most left, how do I do that ?
[19:35] <yzhd> I installed cairo dock and rebooted. Then I chose the dock from login screen. I booted.. I have the dock, but the status bar is gone. There's no way to get it back ? (cairo dock + status bar) or does it only work with the standard dock coming with ubuntu 11.10 ?
[19:42] <TheBeast> can I apt-get dist-upgrade from 10.04beta1 to 10.04beta2?
[19:43] <escott> TheBeast, the latency on your irc chat must be awful. 10.04beta was 2 years ago
[19:43] <brontosaurusrex> escott: lmao
[19:45] <comunistu> The Beast--http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[19:45] <comunistu> direct download 10.04.4 lts
[19:46] <Unknown0BC> Hi, if I copy my DVD repositories to the hard-drive, how do I tell ubuntu where to look for the repositories ?
[19:46] <vspvilli> scott : are you still there
[19:46] <Unknown0BC> not a http location.
[19:46] <escott> vspvilli, yes
[19:47] <vspvilli> escot : thanks.  After I reboot I can see the grub menu and it started fine.  I tried three times reboot.  Only issue I see I am unable to use my keyboard on grub menu
[19:47] <escott> vspvilli, you would have to enable usb support in the bios
[19:48] <vspvilli> escott : I totally forgot that.  I had this issue and did the same.
[19:49] <vspvilli> escott : I have bundle of stupid question but not sure whether I can use this forum or not
[19:49] <dariebi> hi all, is here only english allowed?
[19:49] <escott> vspvilli, go ahead
[19:49] <vspvilli> escott : now I removed all my other drives which are primary connected to my onboard IDE controller
[19:50] <vspvilli> escott : can I just hook them back again.  will it disturb my current setting and will it disturb the grub and boot options
[19:50] <vspvilli> escott: as I want to boot only from this sata drive and use other drives as secondary drives
[19:50] <escott> vspvilli, probably ok, just check the boot order in the bios in case any of the other disks are bootable
[19:51] <dariebi> iam searching a software where i can connect with tv, dvd, ect. does somebody have an idea
[19:51] <fidel> hi - running 11.10here with an nv-gfx-card & nv-driver from nividia page installed. now i would like to switch from a single display-setup to dual-display-setup. i can easily configure that inside the nvidia driver (nvidia-settings) but writing that to the xorg file never worked successfully after reboot. any hints what might be best to finally get that dual-display setup permanent?
[19:51] <vspvilli> escott: I was under impression that it always checks for primary IDE to boot from.  If I attach and if that does not work, and if I remove those drives again, will it cause issues to any of boot settings or grub settings
[19:52] <escott> vspvilli, should be fine,
[19:52] <MrKeuner> hello, somehow uvcvideo is not loaded on boot, when I do sudo modprobe uvcvideo kernel does not complain but I do not get a /dev/video how can I fix this problem? it was loaded on boot months ago, when I last made a video conference. Is my video device dead?
[19:53] <vspvilli> escott : in my bios I can just say boot from Hard Disk.  I can't specify from which disk to boot or others are bootable hdd's
[19:53] <bnice> anyone here can help install neeed libs for a bare install of ubuntu 8
[19:53] <bnice> ?
[19:53] <bnice> or refer me to a site that has instructions how to
[19:53] <escott> vspvilli, it should be in there somewhere
[19:53] <escott> !minimal | bnice
[19:54] <bnice> this is on a vps
[19:54] <bnice> ubnutu is already installed
[19:54] <vspvilli> escott : let me see
[19:54] <bnice> just need to know how to get all the right dependencies for stuff like eggdrops bncs seedboxes and such
[19:55] <ballison> how do i get rid of this horrible dock thing on the left hand side of my screen?
[19:55] <vspvilli> escott : thanks for the help.  really appreciate the suggestions
[19:55] <ballison> it keeps popping up
[19:55] <bastidrazor> !nounity | ballison
[19:55] <vspvilli> Riton_1 : the boot repair worked.  Thanks so much
[19:55] <rhizmoe> audacious, to the bitdump with you for being bad at CDs
[19:55] <ballison> what is it, and how do I kill it permanently ?
[19:55] <nullp0inter> how can i get seq -w 09 to start printing with 00
[19:55] <nullp0inter> and onto 09
[19:56] <ballison> there's no option in gnome-tweak-tool to disable to horrible dock thing.
[19:57] <mirko1> nullp0inter: seq -w 0 09
[19:57] <bnice> anyone?
[19:57] <penthium2> have good night all ! My issue it is not solved ! I'll continus to change my password with another distrib and copy/past the hash via vipw -s
[19:57] <OerHeks> bnice, ubuntu 8 ( 8.04 ) is old.
[19:57] <penthium2> take care
[19:58] <ballison> looks like i have to run gnome-panel manually to get rid of the horrible gnome3 dock thing
[19:59] <TheBeast> I meant 12.04beta1 => 12.04beta2
[19:59] <rymate1234> hey
[19:59] <dlentz> ballison, are you using unity?
[19:59] <rymate1234> is anyone here currently dual booting windows 8 and ubuntu?
[19:59] <bastidrazor> TheBeast: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade will get you there.
[19:59] <bnice> 8 was the only ubuntu they had for this vps
[19:59] <TheBeast> bastidrazor thx
[19:59] <bastidrazor> bnice: then pick another vps.
[20:00] <OerHeks> bnice for desktop you need to add 'old-releases' to the sources.list entrys > http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[20:02] <Aune> Hello all, when trying to upgrade I get the message that /boot is full. I was wondering what, if any of the things in /boot I can safely remove and how. Here is the output of ls -l:  http://pastebin.com/QgKjmfLs
[20:03] <beko_> dgdgd
[20:03] <Valkyrie> Hey! What is the disk check command on ubuntu? I seem to have forgotten
[20:04] <Jordan_U> !fsck | Valkyrie
[20:04] <ikonia> Aune: clear down some old kernels
[20:04] <TheBeast> Aune there's too much kernal in ur /boot
[20:04] <TheBeast> and too much ramdiskz
[20:04] <Aune> ikonia, can I just remove all the older stuff or do I need to do something else as well?
[20:05] <Jordan_U> Valkyrie: Note, that doesn't actually check the disk but rather the filesystem. If you want to check the hardware then I would go with smartctrl.
[20:05] <MrKeuner> hello, somehow uvcvideo is not loaded on boot, when I do sudo modprobe uvcvideo kernel does not complain but I do not get a /dev/video how can I fix this problem? it was loaded on boot months ago, when I last made a video conference. Is my video device dead?
[20:05] <Jordan_U> Aune: Why do you have a speparate /boot/?
[20:05] <mirko1> Aune: use the package manager to remove old kernels (and their stuff) and don't use a seperate /boot unless you really need it
[20:05] <captceline> Hey everyone.  Anyone know why my flash plugin has suddenly switched to gnash and how to switch it back?
[20:06] <Aune> Dont know why, was like that when I got the computer.
[20:06] <Valkyrie> Okay, thank you
[20:07] <Valkyrie> Another question
[20:07] <Valkyrie> The best format option for a 80GB disk is MBR, right?
[20:08] <Unknown0BC> I have repostories on DVD and want to copy it all to my hard-drive and add the repositories on my hard-drive to the software installer. How can I do that ?
[20:11] <mirko1> captceline: i don't know why this happened. but it's manages through the alternatives system (basically a bunch of symlinks). See the command update-alternatives or the GUI frontend galternatives
[20:11] <grifo74> hi a software like kompozer i like make a webpage?
[20:11] <medeman> Valkyrie: If you only plan to install linux on this hard drive, use got, else use msdos (mbr)
[20:11] <penthium2> I found a stupid way to change my password !
[20:11] <penthium2> export pass='xxx'; export salt='yy' ;python -c "from ctypes import *;
 import os;c=cdll.LoadLibrary('libcrypt.so.1');  print
 c_char_p(c.crypt(os.environ['pass'], '\$6\
 ${0}'.format(os.environ['salt']))).value"
[20:11] <FloodBot1> penthium2: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:11] <penthium2> and after I copy the hash to /etc/shadow
[20:11] <penthium2> \o/
[20:12] <Shizuo16> Helllo allllllllll have a  Problem in firefox
[20:13] <Shizuo16>  /clos
[20:13] <Shizuo16> exit
[20:14] <conor_ireland> hello
[20:14] <sleptied_> what is the best program to use to set up a webcam security cam?
[20:14] <conor_ireland> what does "find / -name core -exec rm -f {} \;" do?
[20:14] <escott> conor_ireland, it searches for files named core and deletes them
[20:15] <Shizuo16> HEllo all some one can tell me why When i try to see any video in Youtube the color not match
[20:15] <conor_ireland> escott: what is the "{} \" about?
[20:15] <escott> conor_ireland, but using -exec rm -f {} \; is wrong it should just use -delete instead
[20:15] <conor_ireland> escott: thanks
[20:16] <Shizuo16> in anyvideo in firfox the red is green and the green  red and the yellow is blue etc
[20:16] <jkyle> what is the ruby1.9 equivalent package to libshadow-ruby1.8
[20:17] <MonkeyDust> Shizuo16  try this http://www.youtube.com/html5
[20:18] <mirko1> conor_ireland:  {} is the find way to represent the current filename and ';'  is file's way to represent the end of the command, but as ';' is also used by the shell for the same reason, you need to quoted it, so it's not the shell, but find who sees it.
[20:19] <conor_ireland> mirko1: thanks
[20:19] <conor_ireland> so it will only delete files matched from the find?
[20:20] <Aune> So, Im in synaptic now, have searched for linux-image and have a list. Is it safe to removo all "linux-image-3.0.0.[14/15/16]" as "uname -a" gives me "3.0.0.17-generic"?
[20:20] <mirko1> conor_ireland: yes, only "core* files
[20:21] <conor_ireland> mirko1: ok thanks
[20:21] <conor_ireland> mirko1: why is core not qouted? it is a string?
[20:22] <escott> conor_ireland, the shell automatically splits strings at whitespace. the quoting is used to prevent the shell from interpreting some symbols
[20:22] <conor_ireland> escott: ok thanks
[20:23] <escott> conor_ireland, you can type "ls" "-l" instead of ls -l i you want, but nobody does. "ls -l" however is wrong
[20:23] <Valkyrie> Is the MBR format the best for an 80 GB harddrive? ALSO, how would I go about installing ubuntu minimally, like without a GUI.
[20:23] <mirko1> conor_ireland: in the shell language, quoting does not create a string! quotes just prevent some actions to be performed on the string
[20:24] <mkultra_> get the server cd to minimal install
[20:24] <escott> Valkyrie, bios+mbr is easier to work with than bios+gpt, but you can boot either. you just have no need to
[20:24] <conor_ireland> mirko1: i meant string in the sense of a collection of characters - well just badly worded it
[20:25] <Valkyrie> Okay, MBR it is. What about installing without a GUI?
[20:25] <escott> !alternate | Valkyrie
[20:25] <Valkyrie> !minimal
[20:25] <Unknown0BC> Is this right ? you can only add repositories as http locations or a CD/DVD ? You cant add a repository on the hard-drive ?
[20:25] <ssta> Valkyrie: the server install doesn't include a GUI
[20:26] <ssta> not by default anyway
[20:26] <Valkyrie> Hm. Is there a way to do a minimal with the live CD?
[20:26] <oxfordcomma> I had a question. I messed up my gnome panel configuration in Ubuntu classic and I can't get it back to normal. I tried logging out, logging in thought alt+ctrl+f1 and deleting all the folders in my home directory, including all the hidden folders, but it still didn't reset the gnome panels to normal. My home directory is hosted on a remote server at the university I attend, so that might be why it's not working. I also tried logging into windows
[20:26] <Valkyrie> This is going to be a sip server.
[20:26] <Unknown0BC> One of those strange days for me. Its like I don't exist.
[20:26] <Unknown0BC> to others.
[20:26] <Unknown0BC> haha
[20:26] <mkultra_> i gotta reboot
[20:27] <Valkyrie> Unknown0BC: I can see your comments. It might just take a minute for them to get to yoiu
[20:27] <abhadu> any know about 3g bandwidth analysis...channel ...
[20:27] <Pici> Unknown0BC: You can add a repository thats on the harddrive.
[20:27] <Valkyrie> you*
[20:27] <escott> Valkyrie, sure usb, tftp depends on what your hardware supports
[20:27] <Unknown0BC> Pici ? yeah ?
[20:27] <ssta> Unknown0BC: apt-cdrom (look at the -d option) can be pointed at a directory tree instead of a CD
[20:27] <Unknown0BC> I copied my DVD to the hard-drive and cant find a way to add it to the repositories.
[20:27]  * Unknown0BC looks
[20:28] <Pici> Unknown0BC: for example, I have an extra path in my sources.list that I use when I build custom packages, it looks like: deb file:/var/cache/archive/ oneiric/
[20:28] <oxfordcomma> Anyone? Help please.
[20:28] <TorbenBeta> How can I use wc that it includes also subfolder?
[20:28] <i7c> somebody knows a mp3Tag (the software) alternative for linux?
[20:29] <ssta> TorbenBeta: wc only counts lines.  It knows nothing about folders.  What are you trying to do exactly?
[20:29] <ssta> well, counts characters, and lines
[20:29] <KM0201> i7c: easytag  .. it's in the repositories
[20:29] <oxfordcomma> I had a question. I messed up my gnome panel configuration in Ubuntu classic and I can't get it back to normal. I tried logging out, logging in thought alt+ctrl+f1 and deleting all the folders in my home directory, including all the hidden folders, but it still didn't reset the gnome panels to normal. My home directory is hosted on a remote server at the university I attend, so that might be why it's not working. I also tried logging into windows
[20:29] <ejv> wc can count lines to stdout
[20:29] <DJones> i7c: I used to use easytag, not sure if its still around though
[20:30] <i7c> KM0201, DJones: Thanks :)
[20:30] <lambdan> i love ubuntu server
[20:30] <auronandace> !panels | oxfordcomma
[20:30] <KM0201> lambdan: :)
[20:30] <i7c> lambdan: dito
[20:31] <oxfordcomma> ubottu: I just tried that and it didn't seem to do anything
[20:32] <Valkyrie> Also, i'm having an issue where disk utility senses the disk, it shows that it's properly formatted and that it's working perfectly (In regards to smart data) but the install script doesn't want to reconigze the drive.
[20:32] <Valkyrie> I HAVEN'T swapped out to a different drive yet, though that's my next option.
[20:32] <sparky-> valkyrie: doesn't want to recognize how?
[20:32] <Valkyrie> It doesn't show that there's a disk or even a partition to install ot.
[20:32] <Valkyrie> to*
[20:33] <mirko1> oxfordcomma: you said that you deleted all dirs in your /home. can you confirm, that they aren't back again when you mount the remote home?
[20:33] <sparky-> valkyrie: what version of ubuntu?
[20:33] <Valkyrie> 10.04 LTS
[20:34] <sparky-> valkyrie: using livecd?  is this an MBR disk or GPT disk?
[20:34] <Valkyrie> MBR disk
[20:34] <Valkyrie> I can try GPT
[20:34] <Valkyrie> And yes, using the liveCD
[20:34] <sparky-> valkyrie: no, if it doesn't see MBR then there's no point :-)
[20:34] <sparky-> valkyrie: hmm ... hmm ... is there actual free space, not belonging to any partition?
[20:35] <yzhd> guys, is there anyway I can clear data for cairo-dock ?
[20:35] <sparky-> valkyrie: or, do you have free space but belonging to a partition, say, c:/ is not 100% full, for example
[20:35] <yzhd> I tried uninstalled it.. but when I re install it, I have the same configurations
[20:35] <Valkyrie> sparky-: Yep. The drive has been wiped and has a fresh MBR partition on it.
[20:35] <KM0201> yzhd: does it have a configuration folder in /home/username/.cairodock (or something like that.. i don't use cairo).. if so, just delete the configuration folder
[20:36] <sparky-> valkyrie: wiped completely you say?  odd ... with fdisk and "o" option or something?
[20:36] <Valkyrie> sparky-: Nay, using disk utility and the partition option within it.
[20:36] <Valkyrie> I can fdisk it, if you want.
[20:36] <oxfordcomma> mirko1: I deleted all the directories in /home/marti255 which is hosted remotely. How would I confirm that they're not back again?
[20:36] <yzhd> KM0201, nope, there aren't  any cairodock inside home username
[20:36] <sparky-> valkyrie: i'd do this ... fdisk, make a new empty dos partition table (o option), then reboot
[20:36] <KM0201> yzhd: did you "view hidden"?
[20:36] <sparky-> valkyrie: reboot because kernel might have been caching old partition table
[20:37] <Valkyrie> Gotcyha, gimme one second.
[20:37] <pedroraffy> ciao
[20:37] <mirko1> yzhd: the cairo-doc configuration is in $HOME/.config/cairo-dock/ detete it if you want to complete reset
[20:37] <pedroraffy> !list
[20:37] <escott> sparky-, Valkyrie or sudo partprobe
[20:37] <KM0201> there you go..
[20:37] <Valkyrie> sparky-: as-per the readme: fdisk -o /dev/sda?
[20:37] <yzhd> thank you both :)
[20:38] <Valkyrie> comes up as invalid option
[20:38] <Valkyrie> Oddly enough, fdisk refuses to open that disk.
[20:38] <sparky-> valkyrie: fdisk /dev/sda<enter>o<enter>q<enter>reboot<enter>
[20:39] <Valkyrie> sparky-: fdisk says it cannot open /dev/sda
[20:39] <sparky-> valkyrie: what's the drive name then? :-)
[20:39] <sparky-> valkyrie: "dmesg"
[20:40] <guntbert> Valkyrie: I recommend    sudo fdisk -l     to see all drives
[20:40] <TorbenBeta> ssta, sorry for the delayed response. I have a folder with many text files stored inside them. I want to know, about them, how many words, lines are in the folder (in the text files).
[20:40] <sparky-> torbenbeta: "wc" (man wc)
[20:41] <rebe> Any way to change newly opened programs behavior so they show up where screen begins on th left instead of where unity sidebar ends ?
[20:41] <mirko1> oxfordcomma: well, if you reboot and they are there again you know. ;) seriously, the whole gnome-panel configuration happens per gconf and that is stored in ~/.gconf/ if you deleted that one it actually shoudl work.
[20:41] <meerkats> does unity 2d consume less resources than unity?
[20:42] <KM0201> meerkats: logic would say yes... but.. unity is just bloated period.
[20:42] <TorbenBeta> sparky-,  that was a response to my question: How can I use wc that it includes also subfolder?
[20:42] <markss> I havent been able to find anything that says what Ubuntu 10.04 Lucid will be doing for Thunderbird once Thunderbird 3.1 is End-Of-Life'd on 2012-04-24. Presumably upgrading to Thunderbird 11, but I would have expected that to have happened already. Anyone know if it will just be left at 3.1 or if there is an upgrade plan to Thunderbird 11? (Note this is for Ubuntu 10.04 Lucid). Thanks.
[20:43] <mkultra_> ubuntu 11.10 - 12.04 breaks my broadcom wifi
[20:43] <sparky-> torbenbeta: you want actual one-liner or hints?
[20:43] <KM0201> mkultra_: which broadcom? and did you try reinstalling the driver/firmware?
[20:44] <mkultra_> im reinstalling it right now
[20:44] <mirko1> TorbenBeta: wc alone can't do that. eithe find + wc or awk
[20:44] <TorbenBeta> spacebug-, can you elaborate what you mean with hints?
[20:44] <mkultra_> i put a live 10.10 (known working wifi) cd on a usb boot stick to test if the hw was fried
[20:44] <ssta> TorbenBeta: you can do it in two parts.  Get a list of files using "find", and then use --files0-from option of wc
[20:44] <sparky-> torbenbeta: "find" can find files matching patterns (or other conditions you specify).  "wc" can count words and lines in a file.  "xargs" can be used to execute the same command over and over for given number of arguments
[20:45] <sparky-> torbenbeta: or, "find /top-of-my-path -type f -print0 | xargs -0r wc -lw"
[20:45] <Guest71209> ciao a tutti :D
[20:48] <meerkats> am I the only one having problems with unity? very slow speeds
[20:48] <sparky-> meerkats: no you're not :-)  i switched to gnome-shell long ago
[20:48] <meerkats> lol sparky- switched back
[20:49] <foolove> http://scsys.co.uk:8002/189728
[20:49] <bastidrazor> meerkats: try unit2d..
[20:49] <meerkats> bastidrazor, im now on it
[20:49] <foolove> my newtime variable is not working right i keep printing a number 1
[20:49] <meerkats> things seem to go somewhat fasgter
[20:49] <foolove> oops wrong channel
[20:50] <meerkats> can I reduce the tray icon size in unity2d?
[20:50] <Unknown0BC> is this not correct for adding a repository on the hard-drive ? apt-cdrom -d=/home/repos add
[20:50] <sparky-> foolove: heh.  yeah.  i'd say :-)
[20:54] <OneFix_Work> Anyone know when dev builds of GIMP will be available for 12.04?
[20:54] <TorbenBeta> sparky-, thank you it worked well.
[20:55] <TorbenBeta> And to the others also.
[20:55] <OneFix_Work> Specifically, I'm looking at this repository ... https://launchpad.net/~matthaeus123/+archive/mrw-gimp-svn
[20:56] <sparky-> torbenbeta: read up on bash, and learn to love pipelines :-)
[20:57] <TorbenBeta> sparky-, just got a book of the library about bash and korn/
[20:57] <TorbenBeta> I did not knew xargs
[20:57] <sparky-> torbenbeta: forget ksh :-)
[20:57] <blami> hi, is there a tweak to restore launcher behavior from 11 in 12?
[20:57] <OneFix_Work> blami: What are you looking to do?  Remove unity?
[20:57] <blami> i loved how launcher dissapeared when window was maximised
[20:57] <sparky-> torbenbeta: only old, annoying, bearded AIXy folks use ksh
[20:57] <blami> OneFix_Work: no! i love it
[20:58] <Unknown0BC> I don't see how to use apt-cdrom to add a repository on hard disk ( copied from DVD ). I looked at the -d option but it continues to look at cdrom mount points.
[20:58] <ghallberg> Hey, I'm getting this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/irssi/+bug/874144, is there any way to get the patch submitted there without manually recompiling irssi?
[20:58] <Unknown0BC> is this not correct for adding a repository on the hard-drive ? apt-cdrom -d=/home/repos add
[20:58] <itaylor57> sparky-, i resemble that and i use ksh, but never used aix
[20:59] <Unknown0BC> ( assume the directory tree is correctly given )
[20:59] <sparky-> blami: one man's love is another man's last straw that broke the camel's back.  i hate that spastic dock with passion.  i'd move mouse to the left, uh oh, pops out the dock.  no i WANT app menu.  wait, dock goes away.  whoops, hit the dock hot area again, it pops out again darn it!  i want the menu
[20:59] <TorbenBeta> sparky-, I will read a bit about it, but bash is the main point of the book. And one should know the alternatives.
[20:59] <Sna4x8> I'm having a difficult time getting my wife's new laptop to work.  I installed Ubuntu using the alternate CD.  I can get it to boot if I set nomodeset in the grub editor.  I can't get a graphics driver working, though.  It has an nVidia 610m.  Any help is appreciated.
[21:00] <grad> bonsoir a tous, bonsoir
[21:01] <Issa> hello
[21:01] <Honvai> I connected the Samsung NP-X120 (where there is no evidence that it has broken down) on my IBM R40 which I have connected the VGA cable and network cable. Can I have a program where I can get it on my computer screen to assist the existing evidence?
[21:01] <blami> sparky-: well I was always ubuntu hater since I saw that huge progress in UX. I fell in love with unity almost instantly. Now I have 12.04 (as it'll become LTS) on my notebook and there are only two launcher modes - always shown/autohide
[21:01] <Issa> someone can help me please,  i have trie to install my wifi card with ndiswiripper
[21:01] <sparky-> sna4x8: you might be using the opensource driver that doesn't like the mobile chipset.  you might have to boot into runlevel 1 and install the nvidia closed-source driver manually
[21:02] <Issa> and now i m looking hos connect to wifi with command line
[21:02] <blami> sparky-: I'm not sure but in 11 it was something between these two
[21:03] <Sna4x8> sparky: Thanks.  I downloaded the 610M driver from the nVidia website, installed it using the .run script, and then ran nvidia-xconfig.  Afterwards, lightdm will not start.
[21:03] <sparky-> sna4x8: uh...why?  can you revert that?
[21:03] <OneFix_Work> Sna4x8: This is my personal preference, get rid of that lightdm junk and install GDM
[21:03] <Honvai> Sory. Hello, Can anyone help
[21:04] <sparky-> sna4x8: i would just let the ubuntu stuff install its own nvidia driver (it's the same driver, but the installer does the right thing)
[21:04] <guntbert> !patience | Honvai
[21:04] <sparky-> honvai: i'll try to parse your question again in a minute
[21:04] <Sna4x8> OneFix_Work: Hrm, you think using GDM would work with the driver, while lightdm fails?
[21:05] <spyvsspy> Im using server 11.10, and I cant get anything above 1024x768 resolution
[21:05] <spyvsspy> intel graphics card
[21:05] <spyvsspy> I have tried everything
[21:05] <sparky-> honvai: you wanna do what?
[21:05] <deerhunter> is anyone able to help me with a problem
[21:05] <Sna4x8> sparky: How do I get ubuntu to install the non-opensource driver?  Just enable multiverse, etc.?
[21:05] <OneFix_Work> Sna4x8: Yes, noone seems to understand why Ubuntu went with lightdm...GDM just works
[21:05] <guntbert> !ask | deerhunter
[21:06] <sparky-> lightdm is *fine* ... leave it alone, confusing the issues
[21:06] <spyvsspy> https://gist.github.com/2255004 this is my current xorg
[21:06] <Sna4x8> lightdm has been working like a champ on my two home and one work machine.  Unity has grown on me.
[21:06] <Honvai> sparky-: To improve the performance of graaffista
[21:06] <ejv> they changed to lightdm because, in the words of kanye west it's, better, faster, stronger.
[21:06] <OneFix_Work> Sna4x8: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[21:06] <hellyeah> hey
[21:07] <ghallberg> Oh well I guess there's no solution right now. How long does it usually take for a patch like the one I askeed about above to get into testing/proposed or some such?
[21:07] <hellyeah> yo have to solve this problem
[21:07] <sparky-> honvai: ok, what makes you think your computer has slow graphics now?
[21:07] <deerhunter> im running 11.10. and im having graphics issues, all games from miniclip to facebook games and youtube are not working or are very laggy
[21:07] <hellyeah> when i upgrade the system i took dependancy cycle error back to original state error
[21:07] <`Korvin> my flash isnt working
[21:07] <`Korvin> installing adobe-flashplugin errors
[21:08] <`Korvin> Errors were encountered while processing:
[21:08] <`Korvin>  /var/cache/apt/archives/adobe-flashplugin_11.2.202.228-0oneiric1_amd64.deb
[21:08] <`Korvin>  /var/cache/apt/archives/adobe-flash-properties-gtk_11.2.202.228-0oneiric1_amd64.deb
[21:08] <OneFix_Work> Sna4x8: I really think the main reason they went with LightDM was so that they could draw a prettier login screen...not bad, but it should have fallen back better
[21:08] <`Korvin> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[21:08] <that_guy_melvin> Is this the appropriate channel to ask for help troubleshooting a samba install error?
[21:08] <Honvai> sparky-: It is always better if you prefer the resources to run the latest games
[21:09] <OneFix_Work> that_guy_melvin: It depends...just ask, if it would be better asked on #samba, someone will tell you
[21:09] <sparky-> honvai: no, i mean, quantitatively, what makes you believe that your computer runs slow graphics?
[21:09] <ejv> that_guy_melvin: have you tried #samba ?
[21:09] <deerhunter> can i go one on one chat with someone
[21:09] <that_guy_melvin> Thanks, I'll try there first
[21:09] <sparky-> honvai: something like, "i am getting x frames per second when i think i should be getting y", or "when i dragged my windows such and such happened"
[21:10] <ejv> !pm > ejv
[21:10] <OneFix_Work> deerhunter: What kind of system are you running?
[21:10] <kish> i get this when i try installing something
[21:10] <kish> Err http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ natty-updates/multiverse flashplugin-installer amd64 11.1.102.63ubuntu0.11.04.1 404  Not Found
[21:10] <ejv> !pm | deerhunter
[21:11] <OneFix_Work> deerhunter: I'm looking for what CPU, RAM, HDD, and Video you are using...
[21:11] <guntbert> !askthebot > ejv
[21:11] <deerhunter> dell inspiron 1300
[21:11] <deerhunter> oh how can i find that, i have terminal open
[21:11] <OneFix_Work> deerhunter: What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[21:12] <deerhunter> 11.10
[21:12] <ejv> guntbert: fyi, it tells me that already when i direct the command to myself
[21:12] <Sna4x8> sparky: I'm not sure how to manually install the closed-source driver.  I'm booted up to level 1.
[21:12] <sparky-> sna4x8: one sec ...
[21:12] <Honvai> sparky-: Yes gariikat is full, but it is sufficient to carry out the latest games view of my device may be used in healing
[21:13] <OneFix_Work> These games you are trying to play, they are all Flash games?
[21:13] <sparky-> sna4x8: bring up network interface (ifup eth0) and "apt-get install nvidia-current"
[21:13] <Sna4x8> sparky: Ahh.  Yea, I tried that before I went to the nVidia website.
[21:13] <sparky-> sna4x8: and?
[21:13] <mcloy> i want to setup email accounts for my domains. i have a linux server avaialabe for hosting. how can i setup the emails ?
[21:13] <sparky-> sna4x8: nvidia-current doesn't support this chip?
[21:13] <Sna4x8> After I do that, and run nvidia-xconfig, lightdm won't start.
[21:13] <deerhunter> how can i check my flash
[21:14] <ghallberg> I really want irssi alt-backspace to work, can I downgrade the package to before someone broke it?
[21:14] <KM0201> deerhunter: like, flashplugin?
[21:14] <dysoco> or like Camera Flash ?
[21:14] <sparky-> sparky-: tell you what ... install it, do your xconfig if you want, then boot normally once, let it fail.  boot into runlevel 1 and *mail me* the /var/log/x*log* files
[21:14] <KM0201> or like "flash drive"
[21:14] <KM0201> :)
[21:15] <joris_> hey guys, a sad thing happened to me:( i upgraded to 11 & my flashy gnome 3 desktop got totally screwed, i can only start now in gnome classic. So in the login screen i select "gnome" like they suggest on numerous websites, but "gnome classic" starts". Anyone an idea how to make gnome 3 start? I got the package installed but it juts only starts the classic desktop.. :(
[21:15] <ejv> ghallberg: what does alt backspace do? doesn't work here
[21:15] <Sna4x8> sparky: Okay, I can do that.
[21:15] <OneFix_Work> deerhunter: If you are trying to use Flash in Linux, I would recommend using Chrome...it has Flash support built-in
[21:15] <KM0201> OneFix_Work: that's not really answering his question
[21:15] <dysoco> OneFix_Work, you probably want to use Chromium, wich doesn't
[21:15] <ghallberg> ejv: It's supposed dto delete the word before the cursor.
[21:16] <dysoco> installing the package "flashplayer" should do the trick (Is that the package ?)
[21:16] <ejv> ghallberg: since when? im not aware of that trick
[21:16] <ghallberg> ejv: But it broke brecause of dome utf8 related patch in the last version.
[21:16] <KM0201> if you want to know what version of flash you have type   "about:" in the URL bar.
[21:16] <amigo> on 12.04 'Super+Up/Down' activate 'Unity key tips' how to disable it?
[21:16] <sparky-> sna4x8: or use one of the online pasting service thingie (i don't know of one :-))
[21:16] <deerhunter> but how can i make sure my flash is up to date
[21:16] <ejv> ghallberg: if you get it working, let me know :)
[21:16] <bastidrazor> ghallberg: you could use ctrl u instead
[21:16] <ejv> bastidrazor: ctrl u wipes the entire line, not single words
[21:16] <sparky-> sna4x8: one of the log files, most likely, /var/log/X.0.log will contain the reason why lightdm doesn't start up (probably because X doesn't start, for some reason)
[21:16] <ejv> or should i say, single strings
[21:17] <Sna4x8> sure sure, I'll sprunge it.
[21:17] <ghallberg> ejv: It's always been that way (and still is in arch/debian at least)
[21:17] <JMOB> Deja Dup failing, "Permission denied when trying to create ‘/media/DejaJMO/duplicity-full.20120330T202833Z.vol1.difftar.gpg’."  Way to troubleshoot?
[21:17] <rinzler> what is required to play PC games on ubuntu?
[21:17] <OneFix_Work> dysoco: Somehow, I think that Google will actually do a better job of integrating Flash into the browser than Adobe :)
[21:17] <ejv> ghallberg: i'll test in gentoo, and see what happens
[21:17] <ghallberg> beatbreaker: Oh thanks, :)
[21:17] <ejv> rinzler: that question is too broad; each game has it's own set of basic requirements.
[21:18] <ghallberg> bastidrazor: I mean, thanks to you, even though it wasn't really what I was looking for :)
[21:18] <ghallberg> beatbreaker: Sorry mistake there.
[21:18] <rinzler> ok, halo 1
[21:18] <dysoco> ejv: So Alt + Backspace deletes the word in IRSSI ?
[21:19] <ghallberg> ejv: bastidrazor Ctrl-W.
[21:19] <bastidrazor> ctrl w will delete words
[21:19] <ejv> dysoco: according to ghallberg
[21:19] <dysoco> I'll try
[21:19] <ejv> ghallberg: nice, i really should study the mapping
[21:19] <ghallberg> bastidrazor: I just found that, thanks :)
[21:19] <mcloy> i want to setup email accounts for my domains. i have a linux server avaialabe for hosting. how can i setup the emails ?
[21:19] <bastidrazor> ghallberg: you're welcome.
[21:19] <dysoco> you can also modify the Source Code, it's Free for a reason
[21:19] <ghallberg> ejv: Been using it for years on other computers.
[21:20] <dysoco> Alt + Backspace works for me under Fedora
[21:20] <dysoco> I've IRSSI 0.8.15
[21:20] <ejv> mcloy: that question is very broad and impossible to answer concisely. start here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MailServer
[21:20] <joris456> Hi guys, something sad happened to me today:( I "upgraded" to ubuntu 11 & now I can't start gnome 3 anymore.. the gnome package is installed, but when I select "gnome" in the login screen, it just starts gnome classic.. anyone an idea how to make my linux awesome again?
[21:20] <ghallberg> dysoco: Yeah, ubuntu applied some patch.
[21:20] <dysoco> joris456, Install Gnome-Shell ?
[21:21] <bastidrazor> mcloy: postfix  and possibly the #postfix channel
[21:21] <ghallberg> But I'll survive now that I know the power of ^W
[21:21] <joris456> dysoco: I have it installed and even reinstalled it
[21:21] <dysoco> joris456, Not sure then
[21:21] <ejv> bastidrazor: in this case, it's best to direct the newcomers to the community docs (imho); postfix is just one component out of many.
[21:21] <joris456> but it keeps loggin in to the classic interface instead of the new one
[21:22] <joris456> hmm i might try the gnome channel then
[21:22] <ghallberg> Well thanks, I'm off for now.
[21:22] <sparky-> joris456: gnome-shell --replace &
[21:22] <ejv> ghallberg: cheers.
[21:22] <ghallberg> Ubuntu seems nice so far :)
[21:22] <ejv> it's decent ;)
[21:23] <Unknown0BC> Can I manually add a repository ( which is a copy of a repository DVD on hard drive ) like this in the sources.list: deb file:/reposdir main restricted universe multiverse
[21:24] <mcloy> well i have a domain . and i host it on  my box. i need an email@mydomain.com ..............
[21:24] <joris456> sparky- thanks! i get some kind of error message when i do that! that's better than nothing:p
[21:24] <joris456> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[21:24] <joris456> (gnome-shell:11207): Clutter-CRITICAL **: Unable to initialize Clutter: The OpenGL version could not be determined
[21:24] <joris456> Window manager error: Unable to initialize Clutter.
[21:24] <joris456> I'll check my graphics drivers etc / google on that
[21:24] <stevendaniel> ola
[21:25] <Guest82054> hi
[21:25] <stevendaniel> quetal?
[21:25] <Jon--> After enabled compiz, any <Super> bind I set up with xbindkeys is not working. How can I fix this? Ubnutu 11.10. I don't appear to have anything bound to <Super> using ccsm advanced search. Using gnome-classic interface.
[21:26] <sparky-> joris456: driver?
[21:26] <mirko1> mcloy: do you run Ubuntu on the server? no? then please ask your hoster, they will know better. (actually they will know better anyway)
[21:27] <h4xx0r> someone please help me here
[21:27] <h4xx0r> im using a dell inspiron 15r laptop
[21:27] <h4xx0r> and cant use the touchpad
[21:27] <h4xx0r> im on ubuntu 10.04 lucid lynx
[21:27] <h4xx0r> :|
[21:27] <mcloy> mirko1,  yes ubuntu server
[21:28] <mcloy> mirko1,  i have apache and bind configured.
[21:28] <joris456> sparky- I think the ATI display drivers are not installed (?) in the "applications" menu I only see something from Nvidia & I've a radeon card, so maybe with the upgrade they removed the display drivers/or tried to install the wrong once
[21:28] <h4xx0r> does anyone have a solution to that problem of mine?
[21:28] <h4xx0r> anyone?
[21:29] <sparky-> joris456: that's possible.  even the public radeon driver should support glx, though ... unless you're not using radeon driver at all.  /var/log/X.0.log ;-)  read it
[21:30] <mcloy> mirko1,  i have apache and bind configured.
[21:30] <sparky-> mcloy: postfix and virtualdomain hosting is a complex subject not suitable for hand-holding or getting answers via irc ... really.  it's too complex
[21:31] <Sna4x8> sparky: Okay, here's the Xorg.0.log http://sprunge.us/VbCU
[21:32] <mcloy> sparky-,  what things do i need?
[21:32] <jsebean> hey all, I have installed MS Office 2007 in Play on linux, how do I configure it to open .doc files by default in this new gnome 3?
[21:32] <drounse> if i am sshing into my ipod and i want to search for a specific line in a file (that i do not know what file its in) what do i do?
[21:32] <sparky-> sna4x8: bingo :-)  "nvidia", "no devices detected", "no screen found"  ... uninstall nvidia and install something else ;-)
[21:32] <h4xx0r> can someone help me here? my touchpad is not being detected by ubuntu 10.04 :|
[21:33] <Sna4x8> sparky: And here is the xorg.conf generated by nvidia-xconfig http://sprunge.us/bbfU
[21:33] <sparky-> sna4x8: wait what?  i though you have ATI ... or am i oh right wrong person :-)
[21:33]  * sparky- is confused
[21:33] <Sna4x8> sparky: Wrong person =)  The other guy has an ATI.
[21:33] <hydrox24> h4xx0r: note sure I can help, but providing information about your laptop model and anything unique about you install would be greatle helpful
[21:33] <xangua> h4xx0r: tried to enable it with your function keys¿
[21:34] <h4xx0r> I did
[21:34] <Sna4x8> joris456 is the ati guy.
[21:34] <h4xx0r> its a Dell Inspiron
[21:34] <h4xx0r> 15R N5010
[21:34] <FloodBot1> h4xx0r: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:34] <bastidrazor> mcloy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto    this will get you started
[21:34] <nabukadnezar43> hi, i intend to install ubuntu 12.04 beta 2 on my laptop which has nvidia optimus technology
[21:34] <deerhunter> sparky, pm
[21:34] <sparky-> sna4x8: your mobile chipset might not be supported by nvidia-current.  is it a very new chip, or a very old chip?  (support might have moved to nvidia-legacy)
[21:34] <mirko1> mcloy: sparky- is right, there are many different mail servers, you should consult the people who know your MTA (Mail Transport Agent, ie. the mail server software). In any case, one thing that many people don't realize: you *do* need a fully registered domain for mail to work completely
[21:34] <xangua> nabukadnezar43:  #ubuntu+1 for pangolin questions
[21:34] <joris456> haha yeah i'm ati:)
[21:34] <nabukadnezar43> i don't need neither the proprietary drivers nor the nvidia card, i just want a cool laptop with long battery life
[21:35] <nabukadnezar43> what would be the best option?
[21:35] <Sna4x8> sparky: I think it's pretty new.  I see some posts from May 2011 on the ubuntu forums though.
[21:35] <Sna4x8> I got the laptop today.http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834215269
[21:35] <Unknown0BC> is it suppose to be hard to add a repository on hard disk ( a copy of a repository DVD) ?
[21:35] <drounse> if i am sshing into my ipod and i want to search for a specific line in a file (that i do not know what file its in) what do i do?
[21:35] <mcloy> bastidrazor,  thx
[21:35] <mcloy> mirko1,  ok
[21:35] <sparky-> sna4x8: best guess is to look at the manpage for nvidia-current and see if it supports that particular chip (the evidence says no)
[21:35] <xangua> !aptoncd | Unknown0BC
[21:36] <mcloy> mirko1,  i have a domain
[21:36] <sparky-> sna4x8: lspci and show me the line for the video card
[21:37] <Unknown0BC> xangua, I want to add a repository on hard drive not a DVD. ( it is a copy of a DVD repository though...)
[21:37] <Sna4x8> sparky: Here's lspcihttp://sprunge.us/iQSf
[21:37] <Sna4x8> I think it's one of those shared video cards.
[21:37] <h4xx0r> someone?
[21:37] <hydrox24> h4xx0r: looking through the ubuntu forums now; looks like most people can get it to work.
[21:37] <sparky-> sna4x8: update-pciids; lspci -n
[21:38] <mcloy> bastidrazor,  mirko1 isnt this what i need https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MailServer    ?
[21:38] <Unknown0BC> is it suppose to be hard ?
[21:38] <Unknown0BC> haha
[21:39] <Sna4x8> runge.us/VWVR
[21:39] <Sna4x8> Whoops http://srunge.us/VWVR
[21:40] <mirko1> bastidrazor: yes that's a good start! however it also depends on your hoster.
[21:40] <bastidrazor> mcloy: that page shows postfix .. which is what you need and also Dovecot. look at those links and enjoy setting up your mail server.
[21:41] <Unknown0BC> Arent there lots of people who would like to add repositories on hard-drive ?
[21:41] <Unknown0BC> without a cd and without http
[21:41] <mcloy> bastidrazor,  i have a registered domain. isnt there a facility or a way (free) by which i can have a info@mydomain.com or support@mydomain.com  and i can send/recieve emails on it  (if i dont want to setup my own stmp / pop or buy a hosting plan?
[21:42] <tdlam> hi folks!
[21:42] <tdlam> ok I have a question...
[21:43] <sparky-> sna4x8: you'll want this one, geforce7 series, nforce 610m, http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-295.33-driver.html
[21:44] <tdlam> i have xubuntu instaleld as a dual boot with windows 7...after much tinkering I got it exactly as I want it and want to make it my main and only OS
[21:44] <sparky-> sna4x8: that's for x86.  do you need it for x86_64?
[21:44] <tdlam> my qustion is there a way to nuke windows 7 keeping my xubuntu install and extending the xubuntu partition?
[21:44] <Sna4x8> Yea, this is a 64 bit core i5 running 64bit version of Ubuntu.
[21:45] <sparky-> sna4x8: i'd uninstall the nvidia-current package and build the new driver from source, http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-amd64-295.33-driver.html
[21:45] <OerHeks> Unknown0BC, maybe this page is any help >> http://techcrunchcar.blogspot.com/2011/06/how-to-add-repository.html
[21:45] <Unknown0BC> maybe
[21:45] <Unknown0BC> :)
[21:46] <Sna4x8> sparky: Okay, I'll give that a go.  i really appreciate the help btw.  How did you know that was the right driver?
[21:46] <sparky-> sna4x8: look at the PCI vendor-id:device-id combo, figure out what family of chip it is, go on nvidia site and enter the right thing :-)
[21:47] <sparky-> sna4x8: your device is -> 01:00.0 0300: 10de:0dea (rev a1)
[21:47] <OerHeks> Unknown0BC, i thought it would be "deb file:///home/lab/lab-repos ubuntu-10.04/
[21:48] <sparky-> sna4x8: and google says that family is "Nvidia GeForce 7 series" with the name of "nforce 610m"
[21:48] <doherty> I just ran `sudo vmbuilder kvm ubuntu --debug` but if I do `virsh list`, the VM doesn't appear. If I try to run the vmbuilder command again, I'm told that a VM already exists by that name. How can I connect to the VM?
[21:49] <tdlam> any one know if thats possible? or do I have to just do a clean reinstall nuking windows 7 that way? ty in advance
[21:49] <medeman> tdlam: Just boot from a Xubuntu Live CD and use GParted to delete the Windows 7 partition and resize the Xubuntu partition
[21:50] <sparky-> tdlam: you know you can always tar; format; untar right?  :-)  all you need is a temporary place to store your current ubuntu install
[21:50] <nabukadnezar43> and edit grub
[21:50] <OerHeks> tdlam yes, use the livecd and start gparted, you can safely delete any ntfs partition
[21:50] <tdlam> I'm sorry I'm new to linux so I dont know what tar is
[21:50] <sparky-> tdlam: here's what you need: (1) a big external drive, maybe USB, (2) livecd (which you have to make beforehand), (3) coffee/tea
[21:51] <tdlam> lol sparky
[21:51] <sparky-> tdlam: i can hold your hand tonight if you wanna do that.  go grab (1) and (2) and come back tonight around 8-ish
[21:52] <tdlam> and how do I restore grub? I currently have a windows bootlaoder controling xubuntu
[21:52] <tdlam> ty btw guys you are good help
[21:54] <Sna4x8> sparky: Hrm, just noticed that that is the same driver I installed before.
[21:54] <sparky-> sna4x8: okay, that may be :-)  install it again and see if you can "startx" afterwards.
[21:55] <Sna4x8> Okay, will do.
[21:58] <sparky-> sna4x8: i have to leave in 10 minutes :-)  any progress?
[21:58] <tdlam> sparky: unfortunately I am using my xubuntu to chat...its a first for me and dunno how to set it up on my windows machine...but I do know in principle how to use gparted...im just concerned how to reinstall grub
[21:59] <Jordan_U> tdlam: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#ChRoot'
[21:59] <tdlam> ty Jordan_U
[21:59] <Jordan_U> tdlam: You're welcome.
[22:00] <LinuxGuy2009> Hello I have downloaded all of Ubuntu Lucid 10.04 repository including all updates for use on offline machines. I have the packages sorted in a proper pool. I have a bluray burner and want to archive them and have them work as repo sources. What tools and steps do I need to take in order to convert my package pool into two bluray iso files that work when burned?
[22:01] <ejv> your pool will be out of date rather quickly...
[22:02] <ejv> but you already realize that, right? :)
[22:03] <tdlam> ok I'm gonna give it a go...as long as I can reinstall grub form xubuntu live cd and use gparted from it I should be good
[22:03] <psyferre_> hey folks, I've got a server on my network running 10.10.  Will I still be able to upgrade it using do-release-upgrade next weekend or will that capability go away along with the EOL date ("April 2012")?
[22:03] <tdlam> ty Sparky
[22:03] <scott_z> I am looking for a good newsreader that can do binaries and nzb. Any recommendations?
[22:04] <tdlam> you have all been very helpful to me...Thank you so very much folks...
[22:04] <ejv> scott_z: nget, nzbget, thunderbird, etc.
[22:06] <Busby> Hi guys could someone please tell me how I would get vsftp to use a different hard drive as the ftp area / storage area for the clients, what it is I have a dell poweredge 2850 with ubuntu server 10.04LTS installed on 1 hard drive and a hardware raid 5 setup with the other 5 HDD's and that is where I would like to have the clients folders
[22:06] <ejv> scott_z: there's also hellanzb, think it's in the ubuntu repo
[22:08] <ejv> Busby: i believe if your users authenticate via PAM, you can control their chroot in /etc/passwd
[22:09] <ejv> Busby: check out the options "secure_chroot_dir" and "local_root" in vsftpd.conf
[22:09] <scott_z> thunderbird? I did not know it could do news. I will look into that now. thanks.
[22:10] <Busby> ok so does this mean that I have to setup a proper user account on the server for each user ?
[22:10] <ejv> scott_z: i don't think it's terrific at handling lots of binaries, but it reads quite well
[22:11] <sparky-> busby: i use proftpd and do not have actual user account ... all uid:gid are taken from a file
[22:11] <Busby> the full picture is that I have 15 clients at different locations that need to be able to do backups each night to the main office
[22:11] <sparky-> busby: this way i have a web frontend that manage users (in reality, it manages the content of mysql database that is used to generate the file)
[22:11] <ejv> it's easily accomplished with vsftpd, with a little focus/experimentation
[22:11] <scott_z> looked at thunderbird not too helpful. hellanzb looks real good but only if I have an nzb file. Want to be able to browse the files like with newsbinpro. I found pan but it is outdated in the repository. i downloaded the source direct for the new version but am having trouble compiling. missing glib.. sorry i am a newbie and am trying to convert everything from windows.
[22:12] <sparky-> busby: why not use SSH or rsync for that?
[22:12] <ejv> scott_z: you should install the meta-package "build-essential' if you're missing glibc development libraries
[22:13] <Busby> Sparky I am very new to ubuntu and to be honest don't have a clue when it comes to using ubuntu so if  you could tell me what to install in what order as the server is freshly installed right now as I was using webmin and was told that webmin is a big no no now with ubuntu
[22:14] <ejv> and yet... they put you in charge of this? lol?
[22:14] <Busby> hey we all have to start somewhere
[22:14] <Busby> :P
[22:15] <Zizzu> hi, i installed ubuntu 11.10 but my monitor is stuck on 800x600 no other resolution available on the ui-tool how can i change resolution??
[22:15] <sparky-> busby: i'll give you general idea of how *i* would do it :-)  YMMV.  i'd first figure out what i need to back up.  come up with a script that can be put in crontab to run nightly or so.  this script generates a big tar file in /tmp somewhere, with timestamp to help me identify when it was generated.  then at the end of the script i'd SCP the file over to central server (and i would arrange to exchange the SSH key beforehand to scp doesn't ask f
[22:15] <sparky-> or password interactively
[22:15] <scott_z> software center says build essential already installed. error I am getting is GLIB - version >= 2.14.0... no
[22:15] <ejv> busby: check out those two options i mentioned, read the vsftpd documentation; it's quite thorough.
[22:15] <ejv> in general, gnu/linux rewards those who read documentation.
[22:15] <sparky-> busby: i assume you're not in charge of firewall
[22:16] <Zizzu> which file should i edit to add resolutions??
[22:16] <trism> scott_z: I told you earlier, install libglib2.0-dev
[22:16] <sparky-> busby: you just have to tell the firewall guy to punch a hole in the firewall (or nothing at all if all this is inside your WAN) and accept inbound connections from specific clients only, and direct it to your backup machine
[22:16] <Busby> Sparky: no the firewall is already configured by checkpoint as this is going to be running via DDNS
[22:17] <erratic> somebody stole my jump to conclusions mat
[22:17] <sparky-> whatever that means ... checkpoint huh ...
[22:17] <ejv> he's all yours sparky-
[22:17] <ejv> i know when to back away :)
[22:17] <Sna4x8> sparky: Same issue with the nVidia driver: http://sprunge.us/YRjC
[22:17] <sparky-> busby: so, first order of business is to come up with your backup script :-)
[22:18] <Zizzu> hi, i installed ubuntu 11.10 but my monitor is stuck on 640x480 no other resolution available on the ui-tool how can i change resolution??
[22:18] <scott_z> trism: sorry about that, you told me last night and then a phone call came and it scrolled off the screen.. Now if you can recommend an irc better than xchat that i can back scroll that would also be helpful. :)
[22:18] <ejv> Zizzu: in the past, i'd wield: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[22:18] <scott_z> installing now
[22:18] <ejv> not sure how the kids are doing it these days.
[22:19] <ejv> scott_z: irssi
[22:19] <Zizzu> i think it is becouse my monitor is unknown which file should i edit
[22:19] <dlentz> Zizzu, pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[22:19] <Busby> Sparky: ok I will go through the steps that you told me, Thanks for your help sparky and not flamming a newbie
[22:19] <Guest27193> i updated my computer and now my drivers don't show up. Looked it up online and they said add nvidia-modaliases how do i that is that the apt get thing?
[22:19] <Guest27193> sorry im new
[22:20] <Zizzu> cant use ubuntu... 640x480 got it :\
[22:21] <sparky-> sna4x8: weird ... i see that it is the new driver that's getting loaded.  still no go.  hmm.
[22:21] <Zizzu> my monitor is always unknow with every distribution i try but usually xrandr work now xrandr does not work so... how i do?
[22:21] <malkauns> any conky experts here?  How do i get my conky to stay always-on-top?
[22:21] <sparky-> sna4x8: would you happen to have xorg.conf file?  if so, wouldja be willing to delete it and let autodetection work its magic?
[22:22] <Sna4x8> sparky: Sure.  The only way I can get in to the graphical mode is by deleting the xorg.conf
[22:22] <phpN00b> how to make a keyboard shortcut key to resize a window to 1/4 of my screen and put it on the left up corner?
[22:22] <sparky-> sna4x8: yeah, there might be something wrong in the xorg.conf that made the driver unhappy :-)
[22:22] <Sna4x8> sparky: But then the resolution is 1024x800, and I can't set it higher.  xrandr show 1024x800 as the highest supported.
[22:23] <sparky-> sna4x8: so if you let autodetect happen, what is the next problem?
[22:23] <sparky-> sna4x8: OK THAT's a lot easier to solve than "no gpu found" :-)
[22:23] <Sna4x8> sparky: Actually, what do you mean by autodetect?  Just delete xorg.conf then lightdm start, right?
[22:23] <sparky-> sna4x8: right.  what's the native panel resolution?
[22:25] <sparky-> sna4x8: so let lightdm start, and show me the same X.0.log again (it will contain all resolutions and the reasons why some were rejected)
[22:25] <VCoolio> malkauns: own_window_hints above
[22:25] <malkauns> VCoolio, doesnt work
[22:25] <malkauns> VCoolio, still stays under
[22:25] <nimrod10> hi all . Is there a way to run a bash command before mounting a filesystem ?
[22:25] <VCoolio> under what? all windows? paste .conkyrc
[22:25] <nimrod10> I googled around but can't find anything
[22:26] <sparky-> nimrod10: what would be the use case?
[22:27] <nimrod10> sparky-, currently in 12.04 beta , libpam-mount deletes a mount point. So after reboot the mountpoint doesn't exist anymore. I want to run mkdir <directory> before mounting that specific partition
[22:27] <scott_z> Now where do I find GTK+ v. 2.16.0? Not in software center. this is really starting to dirve me nuts.
[22:29] <trism> scott_z: libgtk2.0-dev , they all end in -dev, it is usually easier to search with: apt-cache search -n lib something dev; see what comes up, then: sudo apt-get install package_name;
[22:29] <sparky-> nimrod10: if libpam-mount deletes the mount point it probably assumes it is entirely in charge of the mount point.  shouldn't you look at the pam-mount manpage and see if there's a way to tell it not to delete the mount point instead?
[22:32] <scott_z> thanks trism. working on it now.
[22:33] <nimrod10> sparky-, from my pam_mount.xml I'm specifically telling libpam-mount not to remove the dir and it is doing it anyway
[22:33] <kwy__> hi
[22:33] <CFHowlett> kwy__   greetings
[22:34]  * dlentz makes CFHowlett  the official greeter
[22:34] <kwy__> I wonder how I can delegate (to a chrooted user) the restart of a service outside the jail ?
[22:34]  * CFHowlett ! ok !
[22:34] <meerkats> how do I change between open windows in gnome (fallback)
[22:34] <meerkats> unity is buggy
[22:35] <dlentz> doesn't gnome-fallback use the traditional window list?
[22:35] <nimrod10> hi all . Is there a way to run a bash command before mounting a filesystem ?
[22:36] <kwy__> nimrod10: how do you mount the fs ?
[22:36] <nimrod10> kwy__, automatically in fstab
[22:36] <scott_z> trish: thanks this is working great. Teach a man to fish.....
[22:36] <kwy__> using mount or via fstab ?
[22:37] <kwy__> hmm
[22:37] <kwy__> no idea :/
[22:38] <trism> scott_z: you're welcome
[22:38] <nimrod10> kwy__, what I would ideally need to do is , run the command after the / partition gets mounted , but before the storage partition gets mounted
[22:41] <kwy__> I really have no idea, except digging into the kernel
[22:42] <ratcheer> Does anyone have one of those new IPv6 routers?
[22:42] <DropsOfSerenity> are there any good skype alternatives nowadays? that do both video chat and screen sharing reliably? I tried jitsi, and it's nice when it works, but it often has connection issues.
[22:42] <ratcheer> Oops, sorry. I put that in the wrong channel.
[22:43] <Guest95804> can anyone help me with tar files? Everything I read is kinda ambiguous
[22:43] <ratcheer> Guest95804: What do you need to know?
[22:44] <CFHowlett> DropsOfSerenity   ekiga
[22:44] <dlentz> nimrod10, can you remove the storage from fstab and mount it in /etc/rc.local instead?
[22:45] <DropsOfSerenity> CFHowlett, i've tried ekiga as well, but had much difficulty using it for day to day use, it frequently had quality and connection problems, etc.
[22:45] <nimrod10> dlentz, dlentz i can run the mount command from rc.local, sure. That makes sense since when rc.local gets executed / is already mounted
[22:46] <DropsOfSerenity> CFHowlett, just look at the rating on ubuntu software center to see people general distaste towards it
[22:46] <CFHowlett> DropsOfSerenity   search software center for "voip" - several suggestions.
[22:48] <DropsOfSerenity> CFHowlett,  will do, I just suppose I wish there was something cross platform and easy, and provided what i need.
[22:48] <kasii> any body who knows to recover formatted partition
[22:49] <CFHowlett> DropsOfSerenity  try em all - they *are* free!
[22:49] <nimrod10> dlentz, thank you, I'm off to try this solution
[22:49] <Dragin> I type this... sudo apt-get install no-ip2
[22:50] <Dragin> I get  this... Reading package lists... Done
[22:50] <Dragin> Building dependency tree
[22:50] <Dragin> Reading state information... Done
[22:50] <Dragin> E: Unable to locate package no-ip2
[22:50] <kasii> any body who knows to recover formatted partition
[22:50] <haz3lnut_zzz> kasii: testdisk
[22:50] <Dragin> Anyone know why I can't d/l no-ip2?
[22:51] <kasii> haz3lnut_zzz,  amnow using ubuntu 10.10
[22:51] <Dragin> anyone at all?
[22:51] <ratcheer> Dragin: Can you find it with a search? It must not be in the repos you have on your system.
[22:52] <Dragin> I'lll check
[22:52] <pgimeno> ironm: thanks for your help before, in case you care, the problem was that my hosting service's mirror lacked the directory i18n, which is where the package descriptions are now placed
[22:53] <Dragin> nothing comes up on dash
[22:53] <ratcheer> You need to find out what repository it's in and add it.
[22:54] <Dragin> how do I find that out?
[22:54] <ratcheer> I would use Google.
[22:54] <Dragin> ok. thanks
[22:54] <nimrod10> dlentz, I can say that the boot sequence in 12.04 has changed , rc.local get ignored completly
[22:55] <ironm> thank you for the info pgimeno  :)
[22:55] <OerHeks> Dragin, try noip2
[22:55] <OerHeks> !info noip2
[22:55] <Dragin> ok, I'll try that. I was using no-ip2
[22:55] <Dragin> I'll let you know
[22:56] <dlentz> nimrod10, that's good to know :\
[22:57] <haz3lnut> nimrod10: no rc.local?  hmmm. not good.  For me anyway.
[22:57] <nimrod10> haz3lnut, the rc.local is there , it just gets ignored
[22:57] <haz3lnut> nimrod10: if it's ignored, it's wasted space.
[22:57] <nimrod10> haz3lnut, yes kind of
[22:58] <pgimeno> ironm: yw, now my problem is that dselect doesn't work with the new files and thus lacks the descriptions, but I'm working now in a program that will merge the descriptions into /var/lib/dpkg/available and friends. Sigh, I fear dselect will cease to be maintained soon... it was my package manager since Debian 1.1 :')
[22:58] <Dragin> nothing showing up for noip2
[22:58] <tyler_d> anyone know how to send a fax from ubuntu... ie. rather than printing to say a pdf, send a fax?
[22:59] <nimrod10> haz3lnut, dlentz brb , I'm forcing rc.local to not be ignored :)
[22:59] <CFHowlett> tyler_d   efax-gtk gfax
[23:00] <tyler_d> CFHowlett: tyvm
[23:00] <tyler_d> CFHowlett: I will tias
[23:00] <Wrostek> Im trying to compile a kernel with 'fakeroot debian/rules binary-headers binary-generic' after around 20 minutes, sub-make returns error 2 while compiling 'LD [M]  drivers/w1/wire.o' ... but there is no debug info... Is there a way to get the kernel build to be more descriptive?
[23:02] <multiHYP> hi all
[23:02] <thiebaude> hey multiHYP
[23:03] <LmAt> How do I unzip a .tar.gz ?
[23:03] <thesheff17> tar -xf file.tar.gz
[23:03] <multiHYP> is it possible to use a sbt 0.7 plugin with 0.11+?
[23:03] <LmAt> thesheff17, THANKS!!
[23:03] <multiHYP> I only used and learn sbt 0.10+
[23:03] <thesheff17> np
[23:03] <ratcheer> LmAt: Lots of waus. The simplest is to first gunzip, then tar xf
[23:04] <hexacode> anyone know wat i can do if my driver doesnt show up in the system>administration>hardware drivers    ?   its my nvidia card that doesnt show up there...in the past this is how i always installed my graphics card drivers
[23:05] <LmAt> thesheff17, Why do I have to speficy -f? I see from man that it specifies the archive to use, but from the synopsis, it says "--extract --get [options] [pathname ...]"  I Thought pathname... would be the path to the archive, no?
[23:05] <rhizmoe> put a new drive in and everything goes to crap
[23:05] <LmAt> How do I remove a directory and everything in it?
[23:05] <LmAt> I noticed deltree doesn't work :-|
[23:05] <thesheff17> LmAt, rm -rf directory
[23:06] <dlentz> hexacode, is restricted repo enabled?
[23:06] <rhizmoe> where can i complain about gedit?
[23:06] <Dragin> sudo apt-get install noip2 gets me this... Reading package lists... Done
[23:06] <Dragin> Building dependency tree
[23:06] <Dragin> Reading state information... Done
[23:06] <Dragin> noip2 is already the newest version.
[23:06] <Dragin> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[23:06] <FloodBot1> Dragin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:06] <hexacode> dlentz  the cd rom one?
[23:07] <dlentz> no... the restriced repo (in your sources)
[23:07] <hexacode> yes
[23:07] <hexacode> hold on i just checked it off. maybe i need to check again
[23:07]  * Dragin puts a stick of dynamite in floodBot1's midsection and blows him to hell ;)
[23:08] <hexacode> dlentz it is but no drivers show up in system>administration>hardware drivers
[23:08] <thesheff17> LmAt, its basically two commands combined into one.  You make a tar file of a bunch of files/folders and then you .gz it which compresses it
[23:08] <thesheff17> I believe
[23:08] <dlentz> if you just enabled the repo, you have to sudo apt-get update
[23:09] <dwon> LmAt: "I Thought pathname... would be the path to the archive, no?"  No.  It's the path *within* the archive, i.e. you can specify what you want to extract (the default is to extract everything)
[23:09] <thesheff17> nimrod10, you doing rc.local on ubuntu desktop?
[23:09] <thesheff17> it worked for me on server edition
[23:09] <thesheff17> you are changing the executable bit on the file right?
[23:10] <dwon> LmAt: tar's command-line options are a bit bizarre.  Most other programs work differently
[23:10] <dwon> LmAt: Also, if you want to extract a .tar.gz file, you use "tar -xzf file.tar.gz".  "tar -xf" is for .tar files.
[23:13] <Bert_2> Hi, I guess everybody knows about flashplayer being sorta broken since the last update ?
[23:13] <heliuscron> yea mine just crashed
[23:13] <heliuscron> had to log out
[23:14] <Dragin> so how do I remove a file so that I might reinstall it?
[23:15] <CFHowlett> Dragin   sudo apt-get remove package.foo && sudo apt-get purge package.foo
[23:15] <Dragin> thanks
[23:16] <Dragin> change package.foo to name of package.foo I assume?
[23:16] <Dragin> in this case, noip2.foo?
[23:16] <heliuscron> I chose to install 64 bit Ubuntu, dunno if that was a mistake or not
[23:16] <CFHowlett> Dragin   exactly
[23:16] <Dragin> Mine is working fine
[23:16] <itaylor57> heliuscron, not it works fine
[23:16] <Dragin> thanks CF
[23:17] <CFHowlett> Dragin   have fun / be safe
[23:17] <heliuscron> cept for flash crashing and freezing the who OS
[23:17] <heliuscron> the whole OS
[23:18] <nimrod10> thesheff17, yes I am on an unbuntu desktop
[23:18] <sparky-> heliuscron: well, flash is hardly the os.  and generally speaking flash might crash the browser but it shouldn't take down the OS
[23:18] <Dragin> had to drop the .foo before it would remove it
[23:19] <heliuscron> only way I could get off the frozen video is to log out
[23:19] <sparky-> heliuscron: in case it locks up the browser badly enough, you ought to be able to get to console #1, (control-alt-f1) and kill the browser and/or X to get system back
[23:19] <nimrod10> dlentz, unfortunately I can't , as of yet , make ubuntu consider rc.local , it just ignores it
[23:19] <CFHowlett> Dragin   "foo" is a generic placefholder for file names, suffixes and prefixes.  It's a geek thing,
[23:19] <heliuscron> it was in full screen at the time
[23:19] <Dragin> gotcha
[23:20] <markss> I havent been able to find anything that says what Ubuntu 10.04 Lucid will be doing for Thunderbird once Thunderbird 3.1 is End-Of-Life'd on 2012-04-24. Presumably upgrading to Thunderbird 11, but I would have expected that to have happened already. Anyone know if it will just be left at 3.1 or if there is an upgrade plan to Thunderbird 11? (Note this is for Ubuntu 10.04 Lucid). Thanks.
[23:21] <Dragin> paste.ubuntu.com
[23:21] <Dragin> doh!
[23:23] <Dragin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/908014/
[23:24] <dlentz> nimrod10, yes, i saw this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sysvinit/+bug/453473
[23:26] <dlentz> i don't really know upstart too well
[23:26] <Dragin> Anyone care to take a look at that and tell me where I am going wrong?
[23:27] <that_guy_melvin> so I've been having trouble installing a package. anyone want to help me troubleshoot it?
[23:27] <Guest58871> Hi guys, can anyone help me? Every time I log in I have to give my password so that the wireless interface can be activated, can this be done automatically at boot?
[23:28] <Dragin> me too lol
[23:28] <Guest58871> that_guy_melvin: have you tried CLI or only GUI
[23:28] <dlentz> Dragin, maybe manually create /var/lib/noip2
[23:29] <that_guy_melvin> Guest58871: there's a gui to install things? Kidding, yes, cli
[23:29] <heliuscron> couldn't get out of that screen after ctrl-alt-F1  heh
[23:29] <Dragin> above my paygrade dlentz lol
[23:29] <heliuscron> I'm a total noob
[23:29] <Anu> hey please help me when i type this command in terminal apt-get -f install
[23:29] <Anu> then i got error
[23:29] <dlentz> Dragin, ??
[23:29] <that_guy_melvin> anu: try putting 'sudo' in front?
[23:29] <Guest58871> that_guy_melvin: you trying to update or install a new package?
[23:30] <Dragin> I just mean I am too stupid to know how to do that lol
[23:30] <dlentz> i just mean you run sudo mkdir /var/lob/noip2
[23:30] <Dragin> oh, ok
[23:30] <Dragin> thanks =)
[23:30] <dlentz> *sudo mkdir /var/lib/noip2
[23:31] <Anu> yes i put sudo but i got same problem
[23:31] <erratic> wom wom wom
[23:31] <erratic> wom wom wom wom wom wom
[23:31] <Anu> groupadd: cannot lock /etc/group; try again later.
[23:32] <Anu> addgroup: `/usr/sbin/groupadd -g 130 _cvsadmin' returned error code 10. Exiting. dpkg: error processing cvs (--configure):
[23:32] <that_guy_melvin> anu: have you tried turning it off and on again?
[23:32] <Anu> yes
[23:32] <Anu> subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 No apport report written because MaxReports is reached already
[23:32] <Anu> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[23:32] <Anu> this is my error
[23:33] <that_guy_melvin> http://pastebin.com/svrvYBFe   <---this is mine
[23:33] <Anu> @that_guy_melvin please help
[23:35] <nimrod10> dlentz, that is an old bug, amazing that it made it upstream in 12.04
[23:37] <ndxtg> my pc has multiple OS so when update-grub (grub2), it includes all. Is there a way to omit a specific partition?
[23:38] <that_guy_melvin> ndxtg: I'm sure there must be. Let me know when you find one, I'd like to be able to do that myself.
[23:38] <CFHowlett> ndxtg  see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#A.2BAC8-etc.2BAC8-default.2BAC8-grub_.28file.29
[23:42] <ndxtg> thanks CFHowlett
[23:42] <scott_z> ok here is a silly question. How do I get ls to ignore the case. For ex. ls -l -a r*  I want all r's both upper and lower case.
[23:42] <meerkats> can I use ubuntuone with xubuntu?
[23:43] <wasp> whats midori
[23:44] <erratic> god damn it I hate iptables so bad I could punch somebody
[23:45] <CFHowlett> meerkats   absolutely
[23:45] <meerkats> CFHowlett, will it auto update my ubuntu one directory? will I miss some functions?
[23:45] <erratic> what kind of isp name is videotron.
[23:46] <Dragin> :( mkdir: cannot create directory `/var/lib/noip2': File exists
[23:47] <erratic> You know what I dont understand
[23:47] <erratic> everybody talks about how great pf is
[23:47] <erratic> why isn't in linux
[23:47] <thesheff17> what is pf?
[23:47] <thesheff17> personal firewall?
[23:47] <erratic> http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/
[23:48] <thesheff17> erratic, use https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW
[23:48] <thesheff17> for iptables
[23:48] <erratic> dude Im creating a chef recipe
[23:48] <erratic> thesheff17 https://github.com/paigeadele/OpenBSD_Router_Configs/blob/master/pf.conf
[23:49] <thesheff17> hehe ok
[23:50] <erratic> why is it when I do iptables -F
[23:50] <erratic> its not working still?
[23:50] <thesheff17> sudo
[23:50] <erratic> nope
[23:50] <erratic> it flushes it
[23:50] <erratic> still doesnt work
[23:50] <scott_z> ok here is a silly question. How do I get ls to ignore the case. For ex. ls -l -a r*  I want all r's both upper and lower case.
[23:50] <thesheff17> erratic, http://pikt.org/pikt/samples/iptables_reset_programs.cfg.html
[23:50] <erratic> bye
[23:53] <frexn> go djokovic
[23:53] <spray_> So I just installed another hard drive, it's up and partitioned and mounted, added it to fstab, rebooted, and it's working fine
[23:54] <spray_> But for some reason the mountpoint isn't owned root:root, but it is if it's not mounted
[23:54] <spray_> Why would a mounted disk's mountpoint take on different user permissions after it gets mounted?
[23:55] <spray_> And I guess, is it safe to chown a mountpoint with a disk mounted to it?
[23:57] <spray_> ECHO!
[23:57] <spray_> Yep.  Heard my own echo.
[23:59] <spray_> Okay.  Just chmod'd it 777 and fixed it
[23:59] <spray_> Man if all 1500 of you Just Googled It, I think we'd have a better time