| ochosi | astraljava: i hear you're a brilliant coder..? | 00:29 |
|---|---|---|
| astraljava | ochosi: Either check your ears, or never trust that little bird again, ever. | 00:29 |
| ochosi | lol | 00:29 |
| astraljava | But, since you brought it up, shoot. | 00:30 |
| knome | astraljava, AGAIN, are you insulting me to be LITTLE? | 00:30 |
| ochosi | there is this really old idea in my head, it's nothing really new or stunning, but it's something that is lacking in the xfce-panel: a simple plugin that combines launchers and open-windows (some dub it a dock) | 00:30 |
| ochosi | no fancy animation shit, just the functionality | 00:31 |
| knome | !language | ochosi | 00:31 |
| ubottu | ochosi: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional. | 00:31 |
| knome | ;) | 00:31 |
| knome | i mean, that was such UNPROFESSIONAL talk... | 00:31 |
| ochosi | knome: so you don't like the word "animation"? | 00:31 |
| ochosi | (or "fancy"?) | 00:31 |
| knome | oh wait, i misread. the word "astraljava" was in MY comments | 00:32 |
| knome | sorry. | 00:32 |
| ochosi | apology accepted | 00:32 |
| astraljava | knome: Well I dunno. Do you wanna be a gazelle or a bird? | 00:32 |
| knome | what if i was a trout? | 00:33 |
| astraljava | ochosi: Sure, we can talk. I'm interested. | 00:33 |
| ochosi | astraljava: i guess this should also be coordinated with upstream, but i think nick is open for something like that | 00:34 |
| ochosi | at least when i talked with him about it @fosdem he said that this should go into a separate plugin | 00:34 |
| ochosi | thing is that i dunno how difficult it is | 00:34 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: Like Win7 has? | 00:35 |
| astraljava | ochosi: I wouldn't mind, I'm a very upstream-friendly contributor. :D | 00:35 |
| ochosi | i mean you have to keep a list of the launchers in the dock or something and other than that it's like the window-list | 00:35 |
| ochosi | Unit193: never used that for real, but yeah, i guess. like win7 and osx and unity... | 00:35 |
| astraljava | ochosi: Thing is, I'm really busy for a while now, but during the Q cycle, I would be up for it. | 00:36 |
| ochosi | astraljava: i mean i would guess that you wouldn't need a lot of mockups for that, maybe apart from finding a way to distinguish the launchers, the open/focussed windows and the not-running or not-focussed apps | 00:36 |
| ochosi | yeah, it should be for Q | 00:37 |
| * knome would kick all the three legs of ochosi if he proposed that for precise | 00:37 | |
| ochosi | so the time-horizon is a bit more open | 00:37 |
| knome | mind you, ochosi is a handicapped, old gazelle with one lost leg | 00:37 |
| ochosi | and also it'd be good to base it on the 4.10 panel | 00:37 |
| astraljava | ochosi: Sounds good, then. | 00:37 |
| ochosi | !language | knome | 00:37 |
| ubottu | knome: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional. | 00:37 |
| knome | ochosi, you thought 'ochosi' was unprofessional? :( | 00:38 |
| ochosi | astraljava: yeah, the 4.10 panel will be in Q for sure, so i think that's good timing | 00:38 |
| ochosi | knome: no, not unprofessional, just not very family-friendly | 00:38 |
| knome | ahh damn, you might need to change your nick than too | 00:38 |
| knome | *then | 00:38 |
| ochosi | no, just never ping me again, problem solved | 00:39 |
| astraljava | Yea. In fact, never talk to me, again. Done! | 00:39 |
| knome | hahah... :) | 00:39 |
| ochosi | :) | 00:39 |
| knome | great! | 00:39 |
| knome | looks like the problems in the community are solved now | 00:39 |
| ochosi | finally i can stop reading chan-logs | 00:39 |
| ochosi | what problems in the community? | 00:39 |
| astraljava | Yep. Abandon ship! ABANDON SHIP! | 00:39 |
| knome | huh, i'm so relieved | 00:39 |
| knome | ochosi, are you still talking to me? | 00:40 |
| Unit193 | knome: Only ones are you and your use of language. :P | 00:40 |
| ochosi | :) | 00:40 |
| ochosi | Unit193: +1 | 00:40 |
| astraljava | Is that Unit194, then? | 00:40 |
| ochosi | lol | 00:40 |
| ochosi | nice one | 00:40 |
| knome | hahah | 00:40 |
| knome | Unit193, i command you to change your nick *immediately* to Unit194 | 00:41 |
| Unit193 | Nope, that's locked out. | 00:41 |
| knome | you can appeal for the IRC council later, now change the nick | 00:41 |
| === Unit193 is now known as Unit194 | ||
| knome | ;) | 00:42 |
| knome | what's the history behind the nick btw? | 00:42 |
| knome | you live in a unit number 193? | 00:42 |
| knome | and you refer to your irc nick when you are going home drunk? | 00:42 |
| Unit194 | Nope, it's never been said on IRC. | 00:42 |
| knome | now that you have the new nick, you can reveal the secret to the old one | 00:43 |
| ochosi | hihi | 00:44 |
| Unit194 | Howdy, ochosi | 00:44 |
| knome | Unit194, hmm, you new here? haven't seen your nick before | 00:44 |
| ochosi | :) | 00:44 |
| Unit194 | Woah, chanact color changed. >_> | 00:45 |
| knome | MAGIC TECHNOLOGY | 00:45 |
| ochosi | knome: what do you think of including a web-irc-client on our website? is that even feasible? and if yes, is it a good idea? | 00:45 |
| knome | ochosi, hmm. what about a link like in the slideshow? | 00:45 |
| knome | ochosi, that would use freenode's own services | 00:46 |
| ochosi | knome: i've never clicked that link... | 00:46 |
| knome | ochosi, hah | 00:46 |
| knome | wait | 00:46 |
| ochosi | yeah, something like that, but a xubuntu-header would be nice | 00:46 |
| ochosi | (to the worst an iframe) | 00:46 |
| knome | hmm, right... | 00:46 |
| ochosi | as in: keeping people on our site | 00:46 |
| knome | iframe could work... | 00:47 |
| astraljava | knome: I know the story behind it. How much will you pay for the information? | 00:47 |
| ochosi | like in this quick mockup by someone else (which actually gave me the idea): http://imagebin.org/205898 | 00:47 |
| knome | astraljava, one serving of rum? | 00:47 |
| knome | :P | 00:47 |
| astraljava | meh | 00:47 |
| knome | hehe | 00:47 |
| knome | ochosi, hmmph.. | 00:47 |
| knome | well | 00:47 |
| knome | i'm not willing to host a webirc | 00:48 |
| knome | i mean, maintain one | 00:48 |
| ochosi | what does the freenode-thing look like | 00:48 |
| knome | and i don't think IS rejoices... | 00:48 |
| ochosi | no, sure, that'd be overkill | 00:48 |
| ochosi | :) | 00:48 |
| knome | http://webchat.freenode.net/ | 00:48 |
| ochosi | ok | 00:48 |
| ochosi | let's use that then | 00:48 |
| ochosi | adding a link like in the slide-show could be the first step | 00:48 |
| ochosi | i still think integration would be nice | 00:49 |
| ochosi | even if only via iframe | 00:49 |
| knome | http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=xubuntu&nick=xubuntu...&prompt=1 | 00:49 |
| knome | that's the link in the slideshow | 00:49 |
| knome | note the default filled options | 00:49 |
| === Unit194 is now known as Unit193 | ||
| knome | Unit193, long time no see, eh? | 00:50 |
| knome | :P | 00:50 |
| ochosi | knome: yeah, that looks good to me | 00:50 |
| ochosi | knome: provide a way back to our website (apart from the back-button) and we're good | 00:50 |
| Unit193 | knome: You get to explain to the freakies. | 00:50 |
| * xubuntu671 wonders how well the iframe would work with only 600px width | 00:51 | |
| xubuntu671 | ochosi: i thought just iframing it inside the content area ;) | 00:51 |
| xubuntu671 | ochosi: or, we could have a special "irc"-template that would allow to use the xubuntu "frame", but dismiss the sidebar stuff and use that too | 00:52 |
| ochosi | mhm, maybe an irc template, 600px is not very much | 00:52 |
| ochosi | even just 200px more would probably make it a lot more readable/convenient | 00:52 |
| knome | ochosi, http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/web_improvements/?page_id=34 | 00:53 |
| ochosi | not bad | 00:54 |
| xubuntu929 | not bad | 00:54 |
| ochosi | the odd color of the freenode-client kinda conflicts with ours | 00:54 |
| xubuntu929 | the font could be smaller | 00:54 |
| xubuntu929 | i wonder if that's controllable... | 00:54 |
| ochosi | hmyeah, not sure.. | 00:54 |
| xubuntu929 | (not the bg... ;)) | 00:54 |
| ochosi | ah :) | 00:54 |
| xubuntu854 | tbh i think the font-size is ok | 00:56 |
| Unit193 | Clones are attacking... | 00:56 |
| xubuntu854 | also: people can change that with their browser | 00:56 |
| xubuntu929 | imo it's too large for the iframe width | 00:56 |
| xubuntu854 | depends on your browser/dpi settings | 00:56 |
| xubuntu854 | this is what it looks like here: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-03302012-025622am.php | 00:56 |
| knome | thttp://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/web_shots/irc-chat.png | 00:57 |
| knome | http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/web_shots/irc-chat.png | 00:57 |
| xubuntu854 | i think making it 800px is better than making the font smaller | 00:57 |
| xubuntu854 | (or at least: much smaller) | 00:57 |
| knome | heh | 00:58 |
| knome | see the menu in top left | 00:58 |
| knome | you can recolor the interface | 00:58 |
| ochosi | yu | 00:58 |
| ochosi | just found it myself | 00:59 |
| ochosi | and wanted to tell you | 00:59 |
| ochosi | but i'm wondering whether we can pass that as an option in the link | 00:59 |
| knome | afaik we can | 00:59 |
| ochosi | cool | 00:59 |
| ochosi | then i don't see any reason why we shouldn't use this | 01:00 |
| knome | http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=xubuntu&uio=MTE9MTMz98 | 01:00 |
| knome | for example... | 01:00 |
| ochosi | mm | 01:01 |
| knome | ochosi, we could access the iframe css with javascript and change the bgcolor to what works for us anyway | 01:02 |
| knome | hmm, that would mean cross-domain stuff though | 01:02 |
| knome | ;) | 01:02 |
| knome | i think we could just add an extra div | 01:02 |
| knome | with the same bgcolor than the freenode webchat | 01:02 |
| ochosi | mmh | 01:02 |
| knome | with some padding | 01:03 |
| knome | and rounded corners | 01:03 |
| ochosi | yeah, sounds nice-looking | 01:03 |
| * knome tries that | 01:03 | |
| ochosi | ok, just finished the new video-mime icon testing | 01:04 |
| ochosi | time to push that | 01:05 |
| knome | heh | 01:05 |
| knome | http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/web_improvements/?page_id=34 | 01:11 |
| ochosi | nice | 01:13 |
| ochosi | if only we could change the title "connect to freenode irc" | 01:13 |
| knome | i don't think that's possible | 01:14 |
| ochosi | but i guess adding some more text what this is about i think is sufficient | 01:14 |
| knome | it would need changing the page name in the wp-admin!! | 01:14 |
| knome | well yeah | 01:14 |
| knome | notice that this is my test-host | 01:14 |
| ochosi | mhm | 01:14 |
| ochosi | sure, but yeah, i like the whole page as is | 01:14 |
| knome | it's easy enough to copy that to prodcution too | 01:14 |
| ochosi | i'm all for it :) | 01:15 |
| GridCube | i always use webchat from work :P | 01:15 |
| knome | ochosi, if you want to play with the freenode bar to get the perfect hue... feel free to. | 01:17 |
| ochosi | i'm on my laptop now (which has terrible colors)... | 01:17 |
| ochosi | can look at it again when i'm back @eizo tomorrow | 01:17 |
| knome | ochosi, it's not something you need to do *now* | 01:17 |
| knome | sure | 01:17 |
| knome | just paste me the uio-argument you get when completing the "add to your site" -wizard | 01:18 |
| knome | (if you want to change other things too in the UI options page, feel free to, just notify me of changes) | 01:18 |
| knome | http://xubuntu.org/irc should work for those who are logged in | 01:18 |
| knome | bleh, i got hungry :< | 01:19 |
| ochosi | k, i'm going to sleep | 01:29 |
| ochosi | see ya | 01:29 |
| knome | yeah, i got to go too... | 01:30 |
| knome | nighty all, see you later | 01:30 |
| Unit193 | Adios. | 01:30 |
| GridCube | knome, :( theres no more boat on the wallpaper | 03:19 |
| timmillwood | just installed the 12.04 updates, but too busy to reboot. | 09:59 |
| knome | timmillwood, well, thanks for letting us know... | 10:51 |
| timmillwood | knome, sorry | 11:03 |
| ochosi | hmm, i'm wondering whether anyone else can confirm a missing icon of xfce4-clipman in precise | 11:39 |
| ochosi | because i can't, but i got a report about that | 11:39 |
| ochosi | (i mean yeah, the icon isn't pretty maybe, but it's there) | 11:40 |
| * jarnos played youtube in 12.04 and had pavucontrol's output devices tab open on a 500MHz P3. Then pulseaudio takes 50% CPU, pavucontrol 20% CPU and most of the rest power is left for the web browser. | 12:24 | |
| === cipi is now known as CiPi | ||
| jarnos | Against which package you should file a bug report, when no mobile broadband connections are shown in networks panel applet after an usb mobile connection device is attached? | 13:06 |
| === CiPi is now known as cipi | ||
| ochosi | leo-unglaub: i can't confirm the bug with the missing icon for clipman | 13:58 |
| ochosi | leo-unglaub: it's not a pretty icon, but it's not missing | 13:58 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| pleia2 | knome: xubuntu.org/contribute/ looks great, and fixed up a couple spelling errors/typos on /contribute/marketing/ | 16:09 |
| pleia2 | I'll need more time to finish review of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/XubuntuOld - it's a lot and I need to do a refresher of all the wiki pages | 16:09 |
| leo-unglaub | ochosi: http://img171.imageshack.us/i/auswahl008.jpg/ | 16:32 |
| mr_pouit | ochosi: it's xfce4-clipman-plugin (for the panel), xfce4-clipman (for the systray) is fine | 16:43 |
| knome | pleia2, thanks! :) | 16:56 |
| knome | mr_pouit, okay to upload changes mentioned in bug 969252 | 18:13 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 969252 in shimmer-themes (Ubuntu) "[UIFe] Bluebird rebased against Greybird for Gtk3.4" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/969252 | 18:13 |
| xubuntu496 | i am running xubuntu 12.04 for a while and now beta2 is available. If all updates are installed, does that mean i also have beta2, or do i have to download beta2? | 19:10 |
| pleia2 | xubuntu496: it means you also have beta2 | 19:18 |
| xubuntu496 | Thanks pleia2 | 19:20 |
| astraljava | xubuntu496: Beta-2 only means the revision of the installable images on the cdimage.u.c server. The packages are what counts, and if you're up-to-date with them, you're on the same level with the images. | 19:20 |
| Unit193 | But things break differently with different CDs. | 19:21 |
| astraljava | Unit193: That's a matter of the assembly of those cds. | 19:21 |
| Unit193 | Generally, yep. | 19:24 |
| astraljava | goddamn T-bird.... | 19:45 |
| astraljava | So, it just sat there for hours on end, without doing anything. Suddenly, told me about two new emails, and when I wanted to look what they said, it just froze. I was able to close it, but UNABLE to restart it. | 19:47 |
| * astraljava sometimes wishes he lived in the Dark Ages. | 19:47 | |
| astraljava | Now it just spews out an "input/output error". | 19:50 |
| astraljava | Sweet. | 19:50 |
| Pandarific | That definitely sucks. So far I haven't had an issue with T-bird. Everything is working relatively okay. Getting ready to install a bunch of stuff though so we'll see if i break it | 19:55 |
| Unit193 | I use alpine... | 19:55 |
| micahg | astraljava: you wouldn't have bindwood installed, would you? | 19:57 |
| Pandarific | can someone verify something for me in 12.04 real quick? | 20:02 |
| astraljava | $ apt-cache policy bindwood | 20:15 |
| astraljava | bindwood: | 20:15 |
| astraljava | Installed: (none) | 20:15 |
| astraljava | Incredibly unbelievable. Now there are some *-1 directories in my various gmail accounts. | 20:16 |
| === nanotube is now known as bitcoin | ||
| === bitcoin is now known as nanotube | ||
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