=== Unit193 is now known as Unit194 === Unit194 is now known as Unit193 === MogDog is now known as Guest28103 === Guest28103 is now known as MogDog [03:16] hello, how to I get the media player related fn keys to work in Xubuntu? [03:27] anyone? [03:28] meh, guess I'll try anther DE. [03:29] see if that fixed my problem. [03:33] c_smith, they should work out of the box [03:33] nope, they don't, tried 11.10, and not working, 12.04. same problem. [03:34] if they not then try [03:34] !keytouch [03:34] Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at http://keytouch.sourceforge.net/ - See !Keyboard for changing layouts. A list of keyboard shortcuts for Unity is available at http://ubottu.com/y/shortcuts [03:34] ah, that might work, already familiar with keyboard shortcuts. [03:35] most programs have terminal commands that you can pass while running [03:35] media programs that is [03:36] meh, but I'm looking to get the multimedia keys working for when I'm in a game and I wish to change the song in the background. [03:36] well sleep time [03:36] nn [03:36] try keytouch c_smith [03:36] I am. [03:36] :) [03:36] have a good sleep! :D [03:36] good luck [03:36] thanks [03:38] Hey! I installed lxde and nm-applet dosnt automaticly start. Is there a way to have it automatically open when i login to lxde? [03:39] And prefrebly close when i logout [03:40] demoniccow, did you install lxde from the disk? or as a package? [03:40] from synaptic [03:40] (package manager) [03:40] ah, ok, then I have no clue, not an lxde user. [03:40] thats fine, ill head over to #lubuntu [03:41] demoniccow, gl! :D [03:41] ty === MogDog is now known as Guest80172 === Guest80172 is now known as MogDog === MogDog is now known as Guest78752 [07:28] ij [07:29] Buongiorno === Troll is now known as Guest44943 [08:56] My desktop (11.04) is corrupted. When I logged in, panel was gone. After starting panel, windows can be moved on top of it. [08:56] Alt-tab does not work [09:01] jarnos: anything in ~/,xsession-errors ? [09:02] is xfwm running - ps aux | grep xfwm [09:02] or xfdesktop ? [09:05] hehe, hi all, I get a bug I am running xubuntu 12.04 under a thinkpad x201, and the temparature of the cpu sometimes will go up to 94, and sometimes overheating and shut down [09:06] is the fan running? [09:06] well_laid_lawn, there is something there in the errors file; mostly errors for gnome-volume-control-applet [09:07] jarnos: why is that running? [09:09] well_laid_lawn, I don't know. xfwm is not running [09:09] jarnos: how are you starting xubuntu? and what's in the autostart? [09:11] jarnos: nautilus needs the --no-desktop option to run in xfce [09:12] well_laid_lawn, no nautilus running [09:12] k [09:12] well_laid_lawn, i start the usual way [09:14] jarnos: in terminal what does xfwm & do ? [09:14] well_laid_lawn, I can not type in terminal, but in virtual console [09:15] hello [09:16] well_laid_lawn, command not found, did you mean xfwm4? [09:16] I'm installing xubuntu 11.10 and it stops, can anyone help me ? [09:16] xubuntu730, maybe it is just slow. [09:17] well_laid_lawn, in virtual console xfwm4 complains it can not open display [09:18] jarnos, the fan is running under 4000 [09:18] 1 hour at the same state ! never see that. it stop at log-output -t ubiquity fontconfig-voodoo --auto --force --quiet [09:18] rpm [09:18] jarnos: yep it's xfwm4 and X needs to be running for it to work - by terminal I meant an emulator in X [09:20] ouyes: I only have around 1200 rpm here - in a terminal top will showw if the cpu is working hard [09:27] Thanks Jarnos to answer my question. But i'm sorry, xubuntu install process realy stoped ! Do you think i could clic on "skip" button ? [09:40] Quit [10:32] What is it that xubuntu has and lubuntu does not have, that makes xubuntu's network manager applet shoe mobile broadband devices automatically? [10:35] jarnos: Lubuntu is very amateurish. It lacks style and a concept. [10:36] Marzatta: can we stick to actually useful facts? [10:37] jarnos: some networkmanager plugin perhaps, or modem-manager [10:37] TheSheep: we do exactly this. [10:38] "useful" being non-offtopic [10:39] jarnos: you've asked lubuntu guys? they should know.. [10:40] Sysi, Well, I guess they would have included it in lubuntu, if they knew. [10:40] Sysi, but I will. [10:42] jarnos: two separate installations or desktop enviroment switch? [10:42] they probably had *some* reason to not include whatever it is [10:44] Sysi, well I tested pure Lubuntu 12.04 today and it did not have the feature. Here in 11.04 the feature is present in lubuntu login, but I have also xubuntu-desktop installed. [10:45] beta can lack things or they can just fail [10:45] Sysi, did xubuntu 10.04 have it? lubuntu 11.04 does not have it. [10:46] no idea, not being sure what is "it" [10:47] can be just newer kernel version or change in networkmanager [10:48] jarnos: Xubuntu shows broadband connections [10:48] Marzatta, i've warned you before on attacking other derivatives/things. stop it now, we don't need need those comments. [10:48] knome: was not that political correct, or? [10:49] you can also stop with other useless lines [10:49] Sysi: let's hope he will hear that [10:50] Marzatta, it's the general atmosphere in the channel, we don't need sulky or otherwise negative comments [10:51] knome: real comments have nothing to do with autistic atmosphere and complexes. [10:52] support channel [10:53] ah! [10:53] * Marzatta was posting on a wrong channel. [10:55] Marzatta, this is not something up for discussion, either here or -offtopic. [10:56] knome: yes, I agree. [10:57] Marzatta, thanks. in that case you probably understand there will be consequences if you will keep on posting such comments [11:00] knome: son, you as a project leader need to be a bit more aggressive and less that political correct. esp. towards Lubuntu, coz it will be nothing for you to lead if things will continue that way in the future. [11:01] it is not a competition [11:03] yes, but it does not look good in any cv. [11:11] On 12.04 beta 2 I was trying the new shortcuts; seems to work fine except Alt+F7 (maximize H+W) that does nothing; in xfce4-settings-editor, xfce4-jeyboard-shortcuts, /xfwm4/custom/F7 is correctly set to maximize_window_key though [11:11] Sysi, is anyone aware, if Xubuntu 12.04 can detect mobile broadband networks. Lubuntu 12.04 can not, even if it has the same network-manager-gnome, even if I additionally install network-manager-pptp-gnome [11:11] (testing in a VM) [11:13] no ok, it's captured by the main OS, sorry! [11:15] jarnos: when I get a hold of 3G modem I can test, it can also be device specific [12:01] Sysi, I installed xubuntu-desktop on top of lubuntu-desktop, and in 12.04 neither shows mobile broadband connections. [12:36] how do i make videos have thumbnails? === starn is now known as Starn === cipi is now known as CiPi [12:44] Starn: install the thumbnailers [12:45] !info ffmpegthumbnailer [12:45] ffmpegthumbnailer (source: ffmpegthumbnailer): fast and lightweight video thumbnailer. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.6-4ubuntu1 (oneiric), package size 8 kB, installed size 64 kB [12:48] TheSheep: that didn't seem to make thumbnails for videos show.. [12:51] Starn: did you try to install all the thumbnailers? [12:52] just the ones that was needed i just checked to see if i even had ffmpeg.. [12:53] hmm i have ffmpeg and all the thumbnailers except the dbg and dev package [13:22] TheSheep: i got it working thanks. i installed all files again and rebooted and now it works. === CiPi is now known as cipi [13:27] Hey guys. I'm having sound problems. Some time (a week?!) ago it worked, but suddenly it stopped... [13:28] My sound card gets detected, alsamixer channels are unmuted, I purged & reinstalled alsa and pulseaudio and followed instructions at http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Sound_Problembehebung [DE] Any ideas? [13:40] meisterluk: make sure the pulseaudio channel is unmuted [13:41] TheSheep: how do I do that? [13:43] meisterluk: open the mixer, select pulseaudio from the dropdown at the top [13:43] meisterluk: make sure all the channels are displayed and see if they are unmuted [13:45] TheSheep: Wow, that sounded like a good idea, but actually all the channel for all PulseAudio Mixers are unmuted... :-/ [13:46] hum. [13:46] nope, no way. :-( [13:47] Is it somehow strange that I don't have a /etc/init.d/alsa-utils daemon? [13:49] (fyi, alsa-utils is installed and up2date) [13:53] (i also exchanged my audio equipment already) [14:57] Tell you what, when using other window managers that aren't 100% integrated with the Ubuntu menu system, xfce4-appfinder is a godsend! === scarecrow is now known as Mormaugus [16:03] any advice? on boot i cant see the kernel messages... i just got a blank screen, then the login screen shows up. I removed already "quiet splash" but it still blank. Any ideas how to fix it? [16:04] try with GRUB customize to recover grub menu(you will need livecd) [16:05] hmm [16:05] any link with a howto? [16:05] ammmm not in english :s [16:05] you can only see the imgs [16:05] hmm ok [16:06] http://skss.learnfree.eu/archives/3425 [16:06] you can use that distro USU, GRUB customize is included [16:10] ok, thanks [16:11] if you need some help with translation i can help you === scarecrow is now known as Mormaugus [16:48] hmm [16:49] whats the difference between GRUB_GFXMODE and GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX [16:58] ok so boot messages are workin again :) [16:58] just the resolution is bad [17:03] ammmm i think you can change it [17:03] take a look on that program, grub customize, i think there is option about resolution [17:20] damn [17:20] my boot is broken :/ [17:28] ok, done :) [17:29] how you fixed it? [17:29] had to use GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX [17:30] or to make it work with gfxmode i had to fix plymouth [17:30] with my stupid graphics card [17:30] wich is? [17:31] which* [17:57] AMD 6210 [17:57] 6320 [19:11] just install xubuntu [19:11] cool stuff [19:12] !pm | xubuntu407 [19:12] xubuntu407: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first. [19:14] can i upgrade my xubuntu-10.04 to the latest version available now [19:15] You'll have to wait until 12.04 is released before you can upgrade to it, otherwise you'll have to go 10.04 > 10.10 > 11.04 > 11.10 [19:17] the best way you say is to do fresh install to the latest version? [19:19] he's not saying that even if it is so.. but you can only upgrade 10.04 to 10.10 or 12.04 [19:19] directly to 12.04? [19:20] Reinstall is best, but you can upgrade to that once it is released. [19:21] LTS to LTS is supported, though 12.04 is still beta and supported at #ubuntu+1 [19:21] upgrades aren't probably thoroughly tested yet [19:42] can i use xubuntu 12.04 like OS right now? i have been tried ubuntu, but didn't work properly [19:43] Mormaugus, as "can" you can, as should, then probably wait a few weeks [19:44] stuff shouldnt massively change in the next few weeks but some might [19:44] Hey, quick question: Is the Xubuntu 12.04 release date currently set as the same date that "normal" Ubuntu is? (that is, April 26th) [19:45] jrgifford, yes [19:45] i can't find a official release schedule wikipage or anything like that. [19:45] GridCube: thanks [19:45] Should be, maybhe a respin after. [19:46] i can't wait, i'm using xubuntu about 1 mouth, it's the distro for me [19:46] jrgifford, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule [19:47] GridCube: so is that release schedule for all official *buntu's? [19:47] jrgifford, for oficial derivatives, yes [19:47] GridCube: gotcha, thanks! [19:47] like ubuntu/kubuntu/lubuntu/xubuntu [20:43] can I install k9copy, a kde program under xubuntu? [20:45] of course, if it's in repositories [20:46] Sysi, xubuntu and ubuntu repos are exactly the same, arent they? [20:46] Yep. [20:46] meerkats: means pulling down a lot of dependencies though. [20:47] mongy, as of now im thinkin of dropping ubuntu for xubuntu, due to its low weight... [20:47] meerkats: not that it means much to me personally. #justsayin [20:49] meerkats: I (still) have problems burning plain data to a disc in brasero (unless I make an iso first) so I tried xfburn, great works ok, tried k3b - works great, tried gnomebaker - works great so decided on gnomebaker due to lightness and functions. [20:51] i mainly use that k9copy to copy dvds onto a HDD [20:52] ah yes, k9copy is a nice tool. [20:55] is there a x9copy? [20:56] what do you want the output to be ? [20:58] mp4, but I want to choose quality, like 1gb per hour or 1.5gb per hour [20:58] dont need to be 1 on 1 copy [21:00] too bad handbrake-gtk is only for LTS [21:00] hanbrake-cli takes some interest in manpages === nanotube is now known as bitcoin === bitcoin is now known as nanotube [21:18] So I am currently installing xubuntu, I want the capability of using dual monitors. Having trouble stopping and starting though. [21:19] xx [21:19] *Stopping and starting X [21:20] log out and back in [21:20] meerkats: https://launchpad.net/~stebbins/+archive/handbrake-releases [21:21] if you can't/don't want to use xrandr (via arandr) [21:22] mongy: is that cli or gtk version? I know cli version is available for non-lts too [21:22] Sysi: gtk is available for non-lts too [21:22] cool [21:23] So if I were to do "/etc/init.d/gdm stop" then install the nvidia driver and start the service again, it wouldn't work? [21:23] gdm isn't used in 11.10 by default [21:23] lightdm? [21:24] yup [21:24] k [21:24] you should use "Additional drivers" app [21:24] I've enabled the driver through that app and it still doesn't recognize that I have another display. [21:25] what doesn't, nvidia or xfce settings? [21:25] Neither. [21:26] I was considering just modifying the xorg.conf file altogether and seeing if that works. [22:40] how does xubuntu lists apps? classic gnome way or more like unity? [22:40] there are lots of options I only recognize due to the icon and the place where I stored the symlink [22:42] meerkats: it creates the menu from the .desktop fiels in /usr/share/applications [22:42] files* [22:43] TheSheep, for the noob: is that like gnome? [22:43] or will I still have to open a dash and type letters? [22:44] no, you select from a menu [22:46] TheSheep, what is the xubuntu icon? a rabbit? [22:47] a mouse [22:47] it's based on the xfce's icon [22:54] id like to know why you use xubuntu instead of ubuntu TheSheep [22:58] * mongy found out about thunar and the rename function. well done. [23:15] thunar rename function is indeed awesome [23:15] Greetings [23:42] is there xubuntu one? I need the ubuntu one app [23:42] can I use ubuntuone with xubuntu? [23:43] Hope so, because if not, I better uninstall it! ;) [23:43] Aye, jsut not as integrated. [23:45] Unit193, does it at least auto update any changes made in my local ubuntuone directory? [23:45] Yep, sync works. [23:47] Unit193, do you by chance use libreoffice under xubuntu? [23:47] Use, not exactly, but I do have it installed. [23:47] what I mean it works [23:48] what I mean: it works [23:51] It opens, yep. [23:51] Opens docs asa well. [23:52] hello all, I have a quick question, can you upgrade xubuntu to new versions like you do with ubuntu itself? or are you supposed to do a fresh install? [23:53] you can upgrade xubuntu [23:53] sweet [23:53] i would recommend a fresh install nevertheless [23:54] really my wife has been upgrading her ubuntu laptop for 3 years now and never had a problem [23:54] as long as you only use standard-programs, there should not be any problem [23:55] thats not my case... [23:55] as soon as you start optimising your os, i would recommend a fresh install [23:55] how many times have you been told that xubuntu looks ugly? [23:56] I have never looked at it why? [23:56] curiosity: 2 persons on other channels said that when I suggested: Im moving to xubuntu [23:57] magerquark, I really dont do to much customizing or anything my wallpaper usually stays default too [23:57] riddlebox, than go for xubuntu [23:57] but why do you want to change from ubuntu to xubuntu [23:57] ? [23:57] plus right now I am using xfce on fedora right now [23:58] unity sucks and renderms my craptop unusable, gnome's fallback used by ubuntu sucks (incomplete) [23:58] when ubuntu restarts supporting a new version of gnome i may move back [23:59] magerquark, I havent used ubuntu since unity came out, I have bounced back and forth from ubuntu,fedora,arch,slackware for years but I do like apt-get [23:59] i dont know arch and slackware [23:59] meerkats, on my very very fast laptop in unity I click on firefox it takes 10 seconds to open!