[00:28] <Daskreech> Just a note that the Feedback Page is for Beta1
[00:28] <Daskreech> Might want to make they just a Beta Feedback page
[07:29] <snele> guys notification sounds still don't work in precise. I hope you are aware of this bug :)
[07:39] <snele> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qt4-x11/+bug/946238
[07:39] <snele> this bug is fixed in qt 4.8.1. will precise ship qt 4.8.1?
[08:43] <apachelogger> interesting
[08:43] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: ^
[08:50] <georgelappies> what does this error mean: "Failed to fetch bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/za.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precise_universe_binary-amd64_Packages  Hash Sum mismatch"
[08:51] <georgelappies> it came up when trying to update 12.04
[08:55] <Riddell> try another mirror
[08:55] <Riddell> geeks, help me out, my mortgage is 4% APR and my neighbours are 1 month late paying £16.72 what has it cost me so I can add it to the bill?
[09:08] <jussi> Riddell: about 7p 
[09:10] <Riddell> jussi: how'd you calculate that?
[09:10] <Riddell> it's less than that by a long way
[09:10] <jussi> http://math.about.com/library/blcompoundinterest.htm
[09:12] <Riddell> 7P is > 4% of 16.72
[09:12] <Riddell> I want the reverse compound interest calculation over a 12 unit (months) period
[09:12] <jussi> sorry, should be 5 p, I put slightly more than 1 month
[09:13] <Riddell> mm, yes that is 0.08 of it
[09:13] <Riddell> lovely, thanks :)
[09:13] <jussi> :)
[09:13] <Riddell> good think I'm not charging your consultancy fees on top of it :)
[09:13] <Riddell> thing
[09:14] <jussi> hehe
[09:14] <jussi> I only charge 1 packet of beef sausages...
[09:14] <jussi> :P
[09:14] <Riddell> and a bottle of whisky :)
[09:14] <jussi> yeah :D
[09:14] <Riddell> come to UDS and you can borrow some from the one I owe afiestas_ 
[09:33] <apachelogger> Riddell: you owe afiestas_ beef sausages? Oo
[09:34] <Riddell> no, whisky
[09:34] <Riddell> in return for turron, it's a fair swap
[09:41] <apachelogger> whisky is the scottish equvivalent of turron? :P
[09:50] <apachelogger> mhhhh
[09:50] <apachelogger> you wanna change some code and do a diff
[09:50] <apachelogger> what ends up in the diff
[09:51] <apachelogger> kate's rubbish backup files
[11:33] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:37] <JontheEchidna> snele: btw, I fixed your updater crash from last week, http://tinyurl.com/cx7x2ab
[12:40] <georgelappies_> hi all, there is something seriously wrong with the current kernel and or X in 12.04. I started using 12.04 about a week ago. By default i use the open source radeon driver. but to pinpoint the source of this crash I even installed the AMD proprietery driver.
[12:41] <georgelappies_> for no reason randomly my system will crash to a console like screen either red or flickering colours like those old arcade games when they booted up
[12:41] <georgelappies_> I then have to hard reset the machine and reboot. sometimes during the boot it also happens.
[12:42] <georgelappies_> My specs are: Dell-1558 laptop with i5 and radeon 5450 display
[12:42] <georgelappies_> this never happened with 10.04, 10.10, 11.04 or 11.10
[12:43] <georgelappies_> is there were like a log file or something similar that might give an indication as to why this crash happens?
[12:44] <BluesKaj> georgelappies_,  have you updated your xorg.conf file since switching drivers ? 
[12:44] <BluesKaj> georgelappies_,  sudo Xorg -configure
[12:44] <georgelappies_> nope I haven't. I just use the default repos and update as updates becomes available
[12:45] <georgelappies_> ok BluesKaj so I just run those commands?
[12:46] <BluesKaj> using proprietary drivers is iffy since there aren't any updates/upgrades for them in the repos
[12:46] <BluesKaj> georgelappies_,  yeah just, sudo Xorg -configure
[12:47] <georgelappies_> ok , I will remove them again. This issue happened before they were installed as well. I usualy do not like using them either ;)
[12:47] <BluesKaj> well , try the command first , to see if it helps 
[12:48] <georgelappies_> george@laptop:~$ sudo Xorg -configure
[12:48] <georgelappies_> [sudo] password for george: 
[12:48] <georgelappies_> Fatal server error:
[12:48] <georgelappies_> Server is already active for display 0
[12:48] <georgelappies_>         If this server is no longer running, remove /tmp/.X0-lock
[12:48] <georgelappies_>         and start again.
[12:48] <georgelappies_> Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support 
[12:48] <georgelappies_>          at http://wiki.x.org
[12:48] <georgelappies_>  for help. 
[12:48] <georgelappies_>  ddxSigGiveUp: Closing log
[12:48] <georgelappies_> george@laptop:~$ 
[12:49] <georgelappies_> thats the output of the command?!? - Sorry for the multi line paste
[12:49] <georgelappies_> do I need to run the command from nit 3?
[12:49] <georgelappies_> init soz
[12:49] <yofel> if you're looking for logs, they're in /var/log/ - check Xorg.0.log.old (from the previous session if that crashed) and kern.log
[12:50] <yofel> we don't use init, just stop kdm
[12:50] <yofel> er, as in, RL3 isn't anything special these days
[12:50] <BluesKaj> oops , I should have mentioned , drop to a tty , ,ctrl+alt+F1 , sudo service kdm stop , then sudo Xorg -configure , then, sudo service kdm start
[12:51] <BluesKaj> georgelappies_, ^
[12:54] <georgelappies_> wow the kernel does a lot of stuff within one second :)
[12:57] <georgelappies_> unfortunatly the kern.log didn't write anything about the crash... I recall many moons ago using something called dmesg? does that work in ubuntu and if so, how?
[13:00] <BluesKaj> dmesg is ok , but it will have more info than you need /var/log is easier to pinpoint the problem
[13:04] <georgelappies> running the Xorg -configure exist with error 2. let me wipe the ati drivers. the command is: sudo apt-get purge fglrx* right?
[13:07] <BluesKaj> no need to purge , just remove , then look in kmeny>apps>system>additional drivers , if any choose the recommended one
[13:07] <BluesKaj> kmenu
[13:08] <georgelappies> ok, shot need to reboot brb
[13:17] <BluesKaj> BBL , errands
[13:19] <georgelappies> ok well, back to built in kernel driver for the display, need to see if that crash happens again.
[13:42] <snele> JontheEchidna: thanks. you are doing amazing work :)
[13:42] <snele>  i'll give my best to crash it again and send you another backtrace :P
[13:44] <snele> just joking, of course :)
[13:57] <kamilnadeem> Hi 
[13:57] <kamilnadeem> Have just installed Kubuntu 12.04 Beta 2 :-)
[13:57] <kamilnadeem> Looks good
[13:58] <kamilnadeem> there is one problem/bug that has persisted with 12.04 and it is related to the installer
[13:59] <kamilnadeem> when  the installation is going on and the installer is downloading updates or language packs, there is no way to stop this
[13:59] <kamilnadeem> the cancel button doesn't work '
[14:00] <kamilnadeem> now in country where internet speed is slow(like mine=India speed 55-60kbps) and to wait for the installer to download all the updates and stuff takes a lot of time
[14:04] <kamilnadeem> brb*
[16:29] <afiestas_> apachelogger: turron and wine
[16:37] <ScottK> If anyone cares about basket, it looks like it needs a manual ~really version merge from Debian.
[16:37] <ScottK> (badly)
[17:07] <JontheEchidna> snele: :P
[17:08] <JontheEchidna> I'm planning a 1.3.1 release for tomorrow, it'll include the fix
[18:06] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdepim-runtime] Philip Muškovac * 102 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[18:10] <CIA-42> [lp:kubuntu-dev-tools] Philip Muškovac * 133 * bin/kgetsource kgetsource shouldn't download a tarball if it's already there
[19:12] <CIA-42> [lp:kubuntu-dev-tools] Philip Muškovac * 134 * (docbook/kopypackages.1.docbook debian/changelog) Add manpage for kopypackages
[19:19] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/qtruby] Philip Muškovac * 21 * debian/changelog New upstream release
[19:21] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/perlqt] Philip Muškovac * 24 * debian/changelog New upstream release
[19:28] <DWonderly> tazz: ping
[19:28] <tazz> hey DWonderly 
[19:29] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/pykde4] Philip Muškovac * 27 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[19:34] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdeadmin] Philip Muškovac * 147 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[19:34] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: ping
[19:34] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: do you happen to have a Android Development environment setup ?
[19:40] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdeartwork] Philip Muškovac * 136 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[19:40] <rbelem> Riddell, ping
[19:40] <Riddell> hi rbelem 
[19:40] <rbelem> :-)
[19:41]  * yofel notes that there's plenty left of 4.8.2 
[19:42] <rbelem> Riddell, i notice that there is kde-workspace 4.8.2 pkg in ninjas, should i migrate the kwin active changes to it?
[19:43] <Riddell> rbelem: are the changes ready?
[19:43] <rbelem> Riddell, yup :-)
[19:43] <Riddell> go for it then
[19:43] <rbelem> nice :-)
[19:44] <rbelem> Riddell, there is one more patch that is active only
[19:44] <rbelem> Riddell, it enables a different screenlocker
[19:44] <Riddell> rbelem: a patch to kde-workspace?
[19:44] <rbelem> Riddell, what should we do?
[19:44] <rbelem> Riddell, yup
[19:45] <rbelem> Riddell, i tried to build twice the kde-workspace do i have no idea how to do that
[19:46] <Riddell> add your changes to the 4.8.2 kde-workspace in ninjas and upload there
[19:46] <rbelem> oki
[19:46] <yofel> can you adjust the patch so that it needs a cmake option to be enabled?
[19:49] <rbelem> yofel, the patch completely replaces the desktop screenlock implementation
[19:50] <yofel> well, can you then wrap the 2 variants in an #ifdef?
[19:51] <rbelem> yofel, i can
[19:51] <yofel> then just pass -D... to cmake to switch between them
[19:51] <rbelem> yofel, good idea :-D
[19:51] <rbelem> yofel, i didnt thought in this way
[19:54] <DWonderly> Riddell: ping
[19:57] <Riddell> hi DWonderly 
[19:57] <DWonderly> Hey Riddell, do get a Developer account with KDE, I apply via identity.kde right?
[19:58] <Riddell> you'll need an identity.kde account
[19:58] <Riddell> and I think it's ask sysadmin next
[19:58] <Riddell> but I don't know, it'll be on techbase.kde.org
[19:58] <yofel> there was an apply button there IIRC
[19:58] <DWonderly> I'm setting up my identity account.
[19:58]  * yofel tries to remember how he applied
[20:00] <yofel> ... and fails -.-
[20:01] <DWonderly> lol
[20:01] <shadeslayer> you apply via i.k.o iirc
[20:01] <yofel> I had to file a sysadmin request later to get website editing permissions
[20:01]  * BluesKaj has too many IDs to track ...no need for anymore
[20:01] <yofel> and now I can't remember what I had to do before that
[20:03] <DWonderly> I'll try it that way LOL
[20:03] <yofel> you'll need an identity account anyway, so start with that
[20:05] <DWonderly> Riddell: Do you support my application?
[20:05] <DWonderly> :P
[20:05] <wendar> shadeslayer: ping?
[20:05] <shadeslayer> wendar: ohai
[20:06] <wendar> shadeslayer: so, I got quite far, but it's hung in the middle of the linux boot sequence
[20:06] <shadeslayer> ah
[20:06] <shadeslayer> wendar: first boot?
[20:07] <wendar> aye
[20:07] <wendar> "Filesystem at /dev/mmcblk0p7 is mounted on /; on-line resizing required"
[20:07] <shadeslayer> It should say "Resizing partition foobar"
[20:07] <shadeslayer> yes
[20:07] <shadeslayer> wendar: it's expanding to fill the entire 16GB's
[20:07] <shadeslayer> it'll take some time
[20:07] <shadeslayer> about 25 minutes or so I think
[20:07] <wendar> shadeslayer: okay, cool, I'll leave it sitting off to the side
[20:07] <shadeslayer> :)
[20:08] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdemultimedia] Philip Muškovac * 150 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[20:09] <shadeslayer> I kinda broke mine last night :P ( Managed to boot the kernel but the initramfs was foobared causing android to boot, but the installed android binaries are only compatible with 2.6.39, causing extreme system brokeness, it also somehow managed to wipe my recovery partition )
[20:09] <DWonderly> Riddell: What's your identity. user?
[20:10] <shadeslayer> Now since my su binary segfaults, I have no root to flash the correct kernelblob 
[20:10] <wendar> shadeslayer: ah, bummer :(
[20:10]  * shadeslayer needs to build a new su, but has no Android SDK installed
[20:10] <shadeslayer> wendar: I think I know how to fix it,just need to build a new su
[20:11] <shadeslayer> specifically this one : http://www.paulburton.eu/git/?p=tf101/platform/system/su.git;a=summary
[20:11] <wendar> shadeslayer: makes sense
[20:12] <DWonderly> anyone else want to support my KDE Devel request? :D
[20:12] <shadeslayer> yeah, I can only hope it works
[20:14] <DWonderly> Okay, applied
[20:14] <yofel> hm, do I need an FFE when re-enabling a binary package? (granatier)
[20:15] <wendar> shadeslayer: I guess you've already got CWM installed, so you might be able to install the stock asus firmware.
[20:15] <shadeslayer> wendar: that's the entire problem, CWM got wiped
[20:15] <shadeslayer> no idea how
[20:15] <wendar> shadeslayer: blurg
[20:16] <shadeslayer> yeah :(
[20:16] <shadeslayer> I made sure the kernelblob was correct, no idea how/why it wiped my CWM
[20:22] <wendar> shadeslayer: yeah, it shouldn't touch the recovery partition
[20:23] <shadeslayer> yeah, like I said, no idea
[20:23] <wendar> shadeslayer: would it help if I sent you my boot.img and recovery.img?
[20:23] <wendar> (http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/how-to-backup-your-android-phones-boot-recovery-and-system-partition-images/)
[20:23] <shadeslayer> not really :D
[20:23] <shadeslayer> the biggest issue is no root
[20:26] <wendar> shadeslayer: so, I've got an X cursor now
[20:26] <shadeslayer> ah yep
[20:27] <shadeslayer> wendar: reboot by holding the power button and volume down button
[20:27] <wendar> shadeslayer: doesn't move, but that's progress
[20:27] <shadeslayer> when it boots, it'll start oem-config
[20:27] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdegames] Philip Muškovac * 151 * debian/ (changelog control) * New upstream release * Enable granatier package again now that libopenal-dev is in the build-depends
[20:28] <shadeslayer> wendar: I'd also suggest connecting it to your PC now, you'll need to adb shell into it and bring up onboard
[20:28] <yofel> ScottK: do I need an FFe for that? ^
[20:28] <wendar> shadeslayer: ok, doing now...
[20:29] <shadeslayer> uhh
[20:29] <shadeslayer> yofel: sec
[20:29]  * shadeslayer thought that openal was enabled for 4.8.1
[20:29] <shadeslayer> yus
[20:29] <yofel> it was, but granatier was commented out in control, so wasn't actually built
[20:29] <shadeslayer> yofel: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdegames/4:4.8.1-0ubuntu2 < 
[20:30] <shadeslayer> uhh I thought granatier was commented out because of other reasons
[20:30] <yofel> well, built, but not shipped
[20:30]  * shadeslayer looks at changelog
[20:30] <yofel> nope, it depended n openal
[20:30] <yofel> *on
[20:31] <shadeslayer> yes, and I saw it that time, but I left it disabled because I found another reason as to why it was disabled
[20:31] <yofel> ah, which is?
[20:31] <shadeslayer> hmmm
[20:31] <shadeslayer> yofel: I don't remember >.>
[20:31] <shadeslayer> looking at changelogs it looks like because of openal
[20:31] <shadeslayer> but I distinctly remember other reasons for disabling granatier
[20:32] <yofel> that's the only one I can remember, let's see if someone else remembers something
[20:33] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdenetwork] Philip Muškovac * 170 * debian/ (changelog control libkopete4.symbols) * New upstream release - add new symbol to libkopete4.symbols
[20:34] <wendar> shadeslayer: oem-config is problematic without a keyboard...
[20:35] <shadeslayer> wendar: yeah like I said, you need onboard :D
[20:35] <shadeslayer> wendar: have you connected the TF to your PC? 
[20:35] <wendar> yup, it's connected
[20:35] <shadeslayer> and do you have adb installed?
[20:35] <wendar> yup, I'm in adb shell now
[20:36] <shadeslayer> wendar: export DISPLAY=:0
[20:36] <shadeslayer> onboard
[20:36] <wendar> beauty
[20:36] <shadeslayer> ;0
[20:36] <shadeslayer> s/0/)/
[20:36] <kubotu> shadeslayer meant: ";)"
[20:41] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdeplasma-addons] Philip Muškovac * 196 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[20:46] <rbelem> Riddell, could you borrow me that ec2? :-D
[20:47] <shadeslayer> night everyone
[20:47] <rbelem> shadeslayer, night :-)
[20:52] <rbelem> Riddell, hum... workspace 4.8.2 needs other backporting
[20:53] <rbelem> Riddell, i will not need ec2 till backport the patch 
[21:04] <Riddell> rbelem: ubuntu@ec2-107-20-42-248.compute-1.amazonaws.com
[23:49] <DWonderly> Riddell: I applied and I hope you don't mind but, I used your name as in support of my getting the account.
[23:50] <DWonderly> Riddell: RE: KDE
[23:50] <DWonderly> afiestas: You coming to UDS again?
[23:50] <afiestas> DWonderly: yes !
[23:51] <DWonderly> afiestas: WHOOT!
[23:51] <DWonderly> afiestas: I'll be there again too. Should be fun to see a new Venue in the US
[23:51] <DWonderly> I didn't go to Dallas.