[01:31] <mcloy> how to comprehensively fsck and fix problem at reboot ?
[01:53] <Sam-R-i> Hello, anyone out there with a knowledge of konqueror?
[01:54] <Sam-R-i> I'm trying to get rid of the anti-glare issue with web browsers and ran into a snag with konqueror
[01:55] <Sam-R-i> I'm using the oxygen theme with wonton soup
[01:56] <Sam-R-i> and tried to incorporate it into konqueror
[02:12] <Sam-R-i> Are my questions a KDE or KUBUNTU question?
[02:12] <Sam-R-i> I.E. wonton soup?
[02:12] <Sam-R-i> I.E. oxygen?
[02:13] <Sam-R-i> Where do I go?
[02:13] <Sam-R-i> How do I ask?
[02:15] <Sam-R-i> Hello???
[02:15] <Sam-R-i> Goodbye!!!
[02:47] <lindsay> sorry sam r....but this is new to me also. but looks like you`ve logged off But if u come back... I  use oprah
[02:47] <lindsay> sorry opera
[02:49] <lindsay> sooooo nobody wants to share  their KDE probs?
[02:51] <lindsay> Iff anybody cares I have one...
[02:56] <lindsay> I`ll just talk to m`self then.
[03:01] <lindsay> hoe come you get a dvd app (dragon player) that wont play dvd`s until 20 plugins have been searched for & thenloaded????
[03:02] <lindsay> u think it would be ready to go...maybe i`m spoiled.
[03:47] <hanasaki> what would result in apps from desktop #3 showing in the tasklist when on desktop #1?  also clicking on any desktop shows desktop #1
[04:05] <natacus> has anyone tried beta 2 of kubuntu 12.04?
[04:06] <hanasaki> natacus:  how is it working out for you
[04:06] <natacus> i havent tried it yet, but just after reading stuff about Kubuntu dropping firefox support, not sure what it means
[04:07] <hanasaki> why dropping?
[04:08] <hanasaki> natacus:  hanasaki is having enough trouble with the current supported version of kubuntu.   the desktop pager is a mess.   clicking on any desktop takes you to desktop #1 only
[04:09] <natacus> what will it mean for FF in kubuntu 12.04
[04:10]  * hanasaki has no crystal ball
[04:11] <hanasaki> wonder if debian will stick with the version of firefox it has named or if chrome is open enough for them
[04:13] <natacus> really dont want to use chrome
[04:13] <hanasaki> there is always the foss version or get firefox on its own
[04:14] <natacus> lol
[04:16] <hanasaki> you ever seen the task manager not respond to clicking on an app window?   or list an app from a diff desktop yet not goto it when you click on it?
[04:16] <natacus> no
[04:16] <natacus> sorry
[04:16] <hanasaki> just started recently
[04:17] <natacus> hope it gets fixed
[04:17] <natacus> anyways im off
[04:17] <natacus> later
[04:17] <hanasaki> I click on the "K" kde app menu and no menu
[04:44] <lindsay> Guys........New to kubuntu...wanted to use FFox but does not want to load with an icon etc...too dificult dunno if lack support causes this
[04:49] <almoxarife> lindsay: one more time, why can't you use FF?
[04:51] <lindsay> hi ffox works but i have to look for ini or exe file
[04:51] <wes_> ke pedo
[04:52] <lindsay> tried putting short cut on desktop...no go
[04:53] <lindsay> just a pain to work thru the directories to find the .ini/.exe file to run it
[04:54] <qbit> lindsay: so which version of kubuntu and how did you install firefox?
[04:54] <qbit> lindsay: I am using 11.10 with KDE 4.8.1 here and have no problem with ff at all
[04:55] <lindsay> latest version methinks ...just installed < week ago
[04:55] <qbit> I suspect some procedural misstep on your part
[04:55] <lindsay> normal download....from ffox site
[04:56] <qbit> do you have a menu entry in the start menu that works?
[04:56] <lindsay> quite  possible ..2 x attempts gave same result
[04:57] <qbit> easier to just use the firefox that's instaleld through a package manager from kubuntu repos
[04:57] <qbit> and they're fairly quick about updating them - usually within 2-3 days
[04:58] <qbit> for example, my firefox from kubuntu repo is 11.0
[04:59] <lindsay> no menu entry....made its own directry under  home/documents
[04:59] <qbit> then if want an icon on the desktop you can just do 'unlock widgets', and when you go down through the menu choices when you get to the firefox entry you can click down and hold the left mouse button and drag it to the desktop
[05:00] <qbit> then you will either need to use an aboslute, complete path in your link to executable or add it to your path
[05:01] <qbit> and don't create a link directly to the main executable irself, there is a startup script instead
[05:01] <qbit> this startup script is how ff finds out "where" it is living
[05:02] <lindsay> ok ... digesting all this i`ve been spoon fed on windows
[05:03] <qbit> it would be easier for you to scrub what you have and install the packaged firefox from the kubuntu repo
[05:03] <lindsay> yep
[05:03] <qbit> but it is possible to do what you are after as I have done it in the past; no longer bother though as there is nothing to be gained by it
[05:05] <qbit> and you will find that plugins and extensions  can easily be installed and will work without any need to futz with anything
[05:05] <lindsay> so locking widgets prevents short cuts but why?
[05:05] <lindsay> or icons being placed yhere  why?
[05:06] <qbit> the locking widgets 'freezes' the desktop and you can't copy a menu entry from the start menu to the desktop
[05:06] <qbit> I believe it is designed to prevent accidental miscues
[05:08] <qbit> you don't actually have to keep widgets in a locked state - the choice is yours
[05:08] <lindsay> cool so many things to learn
[05:08] <qbit> but I think it is a safety default, so I only unlock when I really want to make a changem then lock it back
[05:09] <qbit> well if you're a n00b I'd recommend to install you firefox from the package manager and not the one you downloaded from mozilla
[05:10] <lindsay> whilst your here qbit ..& thanks, I have had two little yellow "stick it" boxes appear at the bottom of  screen
[05:11] <lindsay>  with a scroll bar...what are they how to remove please?
[05:11] <qbit> and I really do not know about this
[05:12] <lindsay> about a 1/2 inch sq. I dunno what i did to get them there dunno hoe to remove
[05:12] <lindsay> e=w
[05:12] <qbit> but if you right click somewhere on empty background space of your desktop and select 'unlock widgets' - then hover your mouse cursor over them
[05:13] <qbit> if they are what are called 'plasma widgets' you will see a sidebar appear
[05:13] <qbit> if that's the case in that sidebar will be a remove/delete thingy you can click on
[05:14] <qbit> and that will make it go away
[05:14] <qbit> if they are not a plasma widget I'm not certain on how to proceed then
[05:15] <qbit> other than looking for them in your 'Desktop' folder in your home directory and manually doing an 'rm'
[05:16] <lindsay> ok going to give it a go now, back in a tick
[05:16] <qbit> good luck and best wishes
[05:17] <lindsay> errr whats an "rm"?
[05:17] <qbit> it's a *Nix command for remove a file
[05:18] <qbit> it's how you delete a file at a command line prompt - aka "CLI" which is short for Command Line Interface
[05:18] <qbit> which is a command prompt in a shell terminal such as Konsole
[05:19] <qbit> text-based as opposed to GUI
[05:19] <lindsay> ok thanks done this cli with m/soft but not linux/kubuntu
[05:20] <qbit> open Konsole will remind you of the old dos box from WinderZ
[05:22] <lindsay> thanks vmuch for your guidance AND patience
[05:24] <qbit> well if you're new to the *Nix world it will take a while, but after sticking with it the learning curve will crest and things will eventually make more sense
[05:26] <qbit> in many ways entering the *Nix world with a GUI obfuscates much of what you need to learn, however, the KDE desktop is a fairly good transition from Windows because there are a lot of similiarities to how stuff works
[05:27] <lindsay> :) yeah , i got to get out of thinking in terms of windows
[05:27] <qbit> just remember *Nix is not just a pretty GUI desktop, it is what lives 'beneath'
[05:28] <qbit> for example, none of my *Nix servers have any X or GUI stuff installed on them - it's unecessary extra crap
[05:28] <qbit> all admin done CLI style
[05:29] <ronnoc> lindsay: welcome to Kubuntu! We're here if you need anything. Just fire away.
[05:29] <qbit> I would never install a GUI desktop on a web server or database server
[05:29] <lindsay> unfortunately i don`t have a programmers mind but working on it
[05:30] <qbit> just keep pluggin away, a little at a time
[05:30] <ronnoc> lindsay: a programmers mind is not needed to enjoy Linux. But the ability to go "under the hood" and play / learn is definitely there should you wish to do so.
[05:31] <lindsay> thanks ronnoc but qbit has given me enough to work on my most immediate dramas`
[05:31] <qbit> the initial part of the learning curve may appear daunting at first look, but if you keep at it at some point it will begin to 'click' in your  mind
[05:32] <qbit> then stuff gets easier
[05:32] <ronnoc> lindsay: lol. understood. I just want to make to sure you realize that "becoming a programmer"  is not necessary to love Linux :)
[05:33] <qbit> system admin is what I do for a living - I'm not a programmer
[05:34] <lindsay> thanks from what i see so far... i don`t,  just a `shift ` in thinking
[05:34] <qbit> I dabble a tad as it helps me to understand how to set up the underlying system to support programs
[05:35] <qbit> but ronnoc is right - you do need to be a programmer to use Linux
[05:35] <qbit> err I meant NOT need
[05:40] <lindsay> yeah, thanks guys I apprerciate your help, ....i will be back with a couple more soon
[06:16] <ronnoc> lindsay: Ok
[07:15] <xds__>   
[07:36] <lordievader> hello
[07:42] <xds__> yes
[08:03] <utente> ciao
[08:03] <utente> !list
[08:07] <utente_> ciao
[10:54] <georgelappies> when is official release date of 12.04?
[11:33] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:43] <xiii> hey guys
[13:21] <drdanz> Anyone has an idea about why this happens to the search bar? http://wstaw.org/m/2012/03/31/schermata1.png http://wstaw.org/m/2012/03/31/schermata2.png
[13:55] <^jude^> can anyone help me get firefox to use kmail for mailto and "Send link..." on 11.10 - the about:config tweaks I find on google don't work
[13:58] <BluesKaj> ^jude^,  system settings>default applications>Default Component /"use kmail as preferred email client"
[13:59] <^jude^> BluesKaj: that's already set
[13:59] <^jude^> BluesKaj: firefox is ignoring it
[14:00] <BluesKaj> ok, that's all I can tell you since i don't use kmail
[14:00] <BluesKaj> or firefox
[14:01] <kamilnadeem> BluesKaj: Hi
[14:01] <kamilnadeem> BluesKaj: how are you?
[14:01] <kamilnadeem> long time :-)
[14:02] <BluesKaj> hi kamilnadeem .fine , and you ?
[14:02] <^jude^> BluesKaj: thanks anyway :)
[14:02] <kamilnadeem> BluesKaj: I am also good, have just installed Kubuntu 12.04 Bata 2
[14:03] <BluesKaj> yes , I see your post in kubuntu-devel, kamilnadeem
[14:03] <kamilnadeem> Ok
[14:04] <kamilnadeem> the problem that I have mentioned there was also present in the 11.10 release
[14:04] <kamilnadeem> brbr
[14:04] <kamilnadeem> brb*
[14:05] <BluesKaj> ^jude^,  you could try kmail in the dialog , "use a differnt email client "
[14:06] <^jude^> BluesKaj: still ignored - all I get it the thunderbird add account wizard, every time
[14:08] <BluesKaj> ^jude^,  check on launchpad , there may be abug already filed for it ..my email preference doesn't work either
[14:09] <^jude^> BluesKaj: aha! in firefox mailto now appears as an application in the preferences - point that to kmail and all is good
[14:09] <ibiwor> How to create users specifically for ssh so that they don't appear in login screen?
[14:10] <^jude^> BluesKaj: so basically it looks like it will always ignore the system default and maintain its own - thanks for taking the time to help anyway
[14:12] <BluesKaj> ^jude^,  np, it's good to know for future reference ..FF needs to be set , not the defaults in sys settings
[14:12] <^jude^> BluesKaj: indeed
[14:16] <kamilnadeem> BluesKaj: Was judge asking about the setting FF as the default browser for thunderbird or Kmail?
[14:17] <ibiwor> Hello! How to create users specifically for ssh so that they don't appear in kdm login screen?
[14:28] <zelo> what path targets kdmrc file?
[14:32] <BluesKaj> kamilnadeem,  no he wanted kmail as the default browser in FF , there's a setting in FF prefernces>apps to set the default email client
[14:33] <kamilnadeem> Okay.
[14:34] <BluesKaj> default email client, not browser
[14:34] <kamilnadeem> BluesKaj: Will be taking your leave now friend. Will be sending my observations to the mailing list.
[14:34] <kamilnadeem> Take Care.
[14:51] <MacSeal> hi,i have problem with encoding on this plasmoid http://imagebin.org/205670 . with plasmoidviewer sm_hdd is right ,is possible fix it ?
[14:55] <mcloy> how  to have the fs's max mount count exceeded for it to auto fsck on reboot?
[15:00] <MacSeal> you can edit fstab mcloyDotCom
[15:00] <mcloyDotCom> MacSeal,  ok. what is the actuall max count ?
[15:01] <MacSeal> !fstab
[15:01] <yofel> mcloyDotCom: what exactly are you trying to do?
[15:01] <yofel> force an fsck?
[15:02] <mcloyDotCom>  i want to have the fs's max mount count exceeded for it to auto fsck on reboot?
[15:02] <MacSeal> You may also "tune" or set the frequency of file checks (default is every 30 mounts)
[15:03] <yofel> the max mount count will be exceeded when you mount it as often as the value says
[15:03] <yofel> that's what max mount count means
[15:03] <yofel> it'll automatically fsck on boot then
[15:03] <yofel> as long as the fsck pass in fstab isn't set to 0 for that device
[15:28] <licensed> omg.. some applications menubar dissapears. i rebooted my computer and didn't work =( i just was changing themes, but i back to default (oxygen)
[17:47] <bradleyjk> running firefox and the website pandora won't load it's music player and pretty much anything else on the website... anyone know if that's an adobe flash prolbem? I've been struggling with getting flash to install on my system
[17:52] <murali> Please Help. How do i remove gnome from my kubuntu 11.10??? pleaase help
[17:52] <BluesKaj> bradleyjk,  didn't we work on your flash problem yesterday ?
[17:52] <BluesKaj> !purekde
[17:52] <licensed> murali, i think it's apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[17:53] <BluesKaj> murali,  ^
[17:53] <licensed> murali, i install and remove this package ubuntu-desktop
[17:53] <licensed> BluesKaj, wazzup =D
[17:53] <BluesKaj> licensed,  it's bit more than that
[17:53] <licensed> BluesKaj, i do this once time.. on kubuntu 10.04
[17:53] <bradleyjk> BluesKaj, yes! I ran through the site I think you(?) sent me, and it wouldnt let me extract adobe into the correct folder
[17:54] <bradleyjk> by "it wouldnt let me" i mean I wasnt able to.. lol
[17:56] <BluesKaj> just extract it in the folder it downloads to , then find the libflashplayer.so and copy it to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins , alt+f2 , kdesudo dolphin /usr/lib/mozilla , open the plugins folder and paste it there
[17:56] <murali> Thank you licenced. a small querry. is gnome and  ubuntu desktop same or diffrnt? Coz on kubuntu i installed gnome 3 and i got new theme for   my kde desktop.
[17:56] <murali> later installed ubuntu desktop. i got a diffrnt screen but with same gnome theme. i want to remove tht gnome theme from my ubuntu desktop
[17:57] <BluesKaj> murali,  check the url i posted above
[17:58] <murali> thank you
[18:00] <murali> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[18:00] <murali> i got that error
[18:00] <BluesKaj> murali,  close you package manager
[18:00] <murali> ok
[18:01] <BluesKaj> your
[18:02] <masinick> I have wanted to report a defect, but in spite of downloading as many debug packages as I could find, it was not enough. I am seeing Rekonq consistently fail and restart when using the Yahoo Email Web site. Something either about their ads or their use of technology on that page kills Rekonq repeatedly.
[18:02] <masinick> Interestingly, the My Yahoo Portal does not have the same problem. Sorry that I have not been able to send in a debug report. All I can suggest to reproduce it is to repeatedly use Rekonq on Yahoo Mail and see if you can replicate it with a QA or development resource who has debug symbols available.
[18:02] <BluesKaj> murali,  commands in the terminal use the same apps (dpkg) as the package manager therefore if dpkg is already invoked it blocks any other attempts to open it
[18:03] <murali> Thank you BluesKaj. The process is running.
[18:04] <BluesKaj> masinick,  rekonq is still being worked on and dev'd ..don't think it's quite relaible as a default browser yet
[18:08] <masinick> Hopefully this IRC Channel is logged and the person responsible for building and/or maintaining Rekonq can try out Yahoo Mail and see if it's stable with recent changes since Beta 2.
[18:09] <bradleyjk> Blueskaj, thanks!
[18:09] <bradleyjk> i dont know what I did differently..
[18:10] <BluesKaj> bradleyjk,  working ok now ?
[18:10] <masinick> Thanks BluesKaj; Rekonq is certainly being actively developed, and for the most part it is coming along very well; sure wish I could get ALL of the debugging symbols needed to help diagnose the issue; got Rekonq-dbg, but there were several others and the mirror just wasn't getting them up to me.  Anyway, I'll keep working on it; hope word gets passed along; thanks!
[18:12] <BluesKaj> masinick,  i have problems with ctrl+ sizing on this large monitor using rekonq , otherwise I agree it's much better than even a few months ago...definitely shows promise
[18:14] <licensed> my apps menubars disappears =( i change theme back to oxygen and menubar didn't back =(( xchat, ktorrent, gimp.. all menubars disappears
[18:14] <masinick> Thanks for the feedback; If I eventually get enough debug symbols installed to produce a good trace, I will gladly send it in.  Have a great afternoon and evening!  -- Brian Masinick, masinick@yahoo.com
[18:16] <BluesKaj> menubars or taskbars , licensed ?
[18:17] <licensed> BluesKaj, menu bar.. File / Edit / Help..
[18:17] <licensed> omg! it's back
[18:18] <licensed> hahahaha jut change theme and some apperance
[18:18] <bradleyjk> BluesKaj, yep
[18:18] <licensed> ktorrent didn't back yet BluesKaj
[18:18] <licensed> just xchat back
[18:20] <BluesKaj> licensed,  just right click on the apps in the kmenu and add to panel
[18:23] <licensed> BluesKaj, i'm talking about apps menubar.. not panel
[18:26] <licensed> BluesKaj, lots of apps disappears menubar.. but now some apps back, but not all.. can you see? http://i40.tinypic.com/10hvj20.png
[18:34] <BluesKaj> no , sorry I don't understand , licensed ...menubar as in dolphin?
[18:35] <licensed> dolphin's menubar it's gone too
[18:35] <Peace-> licensed: CRTL M
[18:35] <Peace-> CTRL M
[18:36] <licensed> Peace-, yes dolphin menubar back.. (it's just a key tool, right? 1 icon)
[18:36] <licensed> but ktorrent and others didn't back
[18:37] <Peace-> licensed: ~/.kde/share/config
[18:37] <Peace-> search for ktorrernt
[18:37] <Peace-> and rename it
[18:37] <Peace-> to search in fast way use the search bar
[18:38] <Peace-> licensed: is called filter bar
[18:39] <licensed> to remove config didn't work Peace- .. i think it's theme problem
[18:39] <licensed> no is 1 program
[18:39] <Peace-> licensed: http://wstaw.org/m/2012/03/31/plasma-desktopiF1833.png
[18:39] <licensed> it's lots of apps
[18:39] <Peace-> licensed: create a new user
[18:39] <Peace-> or rename your ~/.kde
[18:43] <licensed> Peace-, BluesKaj http://i39.tinypic.com/kd7sk4.png
[18:43] <licensed> can you see now? some examples of apps.. ktorrent, gwenview, vlc.. no one haves a menubar
[18:43] <Peace-> licensed: rename  $HOME/.kde
[18:44] <licensed> omg here we go.. configure all my kde again
[18:44] <licensed> ok i back soon
[18:47] <licensed> ok it's solve :) i will reconfigure all my kde now
[18:48] <Peace-> night i go :P
[18:51] <licensed> i have to go now.. thanks Peace-
[19:05] <mmh> how cmake handling of libcxcore.so is done to have opencv integrated to use webcam?
[19:31] <Steve132> When I check out or do certain operations from certain subversion repositories, svn hangs
[19:31] <Steve132> on my system
[19:31] <Steve132> how can I check the svn log files?
[19:59] <BluesKaj> !cloak
[20:18] <yaaic> hi
[20:31] <Spartan29> hallo
[20:31] <Spartan29>  I've a trouble. I can't share files from linux to windows, files are in a folder of an NTFS partition mounted on boot time. What i see is that i can't change folder and than in it contained files. Can someone help me?
[20:35] <BluesKaj> Spartan29,  are you trying to access files from windows or in linux moving them to windows?
[20:37] <elek02_> Hi! Is there an option in Dolphin to disconnect from FTP?  Massstorage devices can be disconnectet, but network-shares not ...
[20:40] <BluesKaj> elek02_,  do you mean the share file can't be closed?
[20:42] <elek02_> yes
[20:42] <elek02_> no - not my shares!
[20:43] <elek02_> when I connect to a ftp-host with ftp://.....
[21:15] <karam> hi
[21:15] <hackdraft> hi
[21:18] <Spartan29> BluesKaj, Sorry the late. However, i have a folder on an NTFS part mounted automatically at boot. I want to share over my network the conent of the folder. And till now i obtained only to show the folder, not the files in it.
[21:20] <BluesKaj> Spartan29,  is there a windows OS on the ntfs or is justa astorage partition ?
[21:21] <BluesKaj> a storage
[21:21] <Spartan29> BluesKaj, is a storage partition, used in ntfs because some maintenance on films and other are done via windows sometimes.
[21:23] <BluesKaj> yes , understood , do you have the ntfs partiton set to automount in /etc/fstab ?
[21:25] <Spartan29> BluesKaj, the partitions isn't in fstab.
[21:29] <BluesKaj> Spartan29,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[21:35] <spaceneedle> Just tried to update kubuntu 12.04 and I was told that bzip2zip package was corrupt. I also had midsum check mismatch. Also, wouldn't install the 3.2.0.21  kernal.
[21:35] <Roey> hey all, I hear that Ubuntu offers an this integrated OpenVPN option in GNOME for laptops so that they can pipe all their traffic through an OpenVPN relay.  How can I achieve something similar in KDE?
[21:35] <Roey> 3.8.1
[21:39] <szal> did you mean: 4.8.1?
[21:39] <Roey> er, yes
[21:39] <Roey> :)
[21:40] <Roey> all those keys.  They're close together, I mean..
[21:40] <Roey> szal:  but yeah.  Basically I want to go to sit at Starbucks and connect to my desktop at home and pipe all traffic through it.
[21:40] <Tm_T> Roey: the same way you do in gnome: through networking systray icon
[21:40] <BluesKaj> BBL ...
[21:41] <Roey> Ah..
[21:41] <Roey> Tm_T: that would be stellar if Kubuntu provides that functionality, lemme check..
[21:42] <Roey> tm_T:  ooh, there's a VPN option.  Curiouser and curiouser...bbiab.
[21:49] <Linkmaster> i have a RTL8188CE wireless adapter on my new computer rig. however, it wont connect to the intrrnet. if i manually assign an IP, it will connect, but not load anything. if i use autmatic, it wont assign an IP address. any suggestions?
[22:07] <Roey> szal, tm_T:  Do I have to go through all this stuff* to set VPN keys up?? https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/openvpn.html
[23:38] <JuJuBee> How do I get my torrent client vuze to open torrents via the magnet link?
[23:44] <natacus> anyone using Kubuntu 12.04, how is it looking?
[23:44] <natacus> beta2
[23:53] <Seven_Six_Two> 12.04, nvidia6800gt, 2x21" monitors. Since recent update, my screens go black frequently. no gnome-screensaver, xscreensaver. nothing in dmesg, syslog, xorg.0.log. checked power settings.
[23:53] <Seven_Six_Two> using recommended binary driver.
[23:56] <EvilResistance> isnt 12.04 support in #ubuntu+1, even for Kubuntu?
[23:56] <EvilResistance> !12.04
[23:56] <EvilResistance> thought so
[23:56] <Seven_Six_Two> I wasn't sure if kubuntu was there too. thanks
[23:59] <Roey> hey all, so I am using DynamicDNS here, and I have set up OpenVPN with this guide:  https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/openvpn.html.  I'm trying to get this VPN connection working on my laptop with Kubuntu 12.04's VPN option, but I am not even sure that this VPN is running (i.e. I need to verify this somehow, probably by trying to bring up the VPN via command-line, btu I forgot how).  Make my ship go?