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adam_gis there some way to work around the maintainer-script-needs-depends-on-adduser lintian error, if the packages its pointing at all depend on a common package, which has adduser as a Depends?00:05
adam_gor should adduser be moved to each package in question instead of defining globally, to shut lintian up?00:05
slangasekadam_g: there's a way to shut lintian up, but I would argue it's simpler to just comply00:09
cjwatsonadam_g: I would in general argue that direct use should imply direct dependency00:22
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psusiis there something more that bug #941874 needs to make sure it's on the radar as a critical regression that needs fixed before precise is finalized?  like a milestone target?02:19
ubottuLaunchpad bug 941874 in multipath-tools (Ubuntu) "(fakeraid) root device not activated during boot" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/94187402:19
infinitypsusi: Sure, I'll milestone it. :P02:21
infinitypsusi: You could just fix it instead! ;)02:21
psusiI have, just waiting for a sponsor to merge02:22
infinityAh, so I see.02:22
infinityI'll have a look at it in a bit, then.02:23
infinitypsusi: Are you around for a bit tonight, in case I have questions?02:23
psusiinfinity, sure02:23
infinitypsusi: Alright.  I'll poke it later tonight.  If you decide to go have a life instead, I'll either sponsor or leave feedback on the bug, as appropriate.02:24
psusihehe... never can tell with a new baby02:24
infinity;)02:25
infinityCongrats.02:25
psusity02:25
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bitplane-Hi, I was bored and decided to try fixing one of the bugs on the tracker. I decided on a seemingly simple one, the text size in notify bubbles being wrong03:44
bitplane-I have a stupid question though... there's debug statements in the code, how would I normally activate them? do I have to go and tell g++ to compile with DEBUG defined, or is there a better way?03:45
infinitybitplane-: If you're talking about the code having something like DEBUG("foo") in it, find the declaration of DEBUG and see what it does.04:40
infinitybitplane-: Odds are that it keys off a magic environment variable being set, or the program being run with --debug.04:41
pkhi'm running a machine on 12.04 and the last few kernel updates have failed to find my network driver. i'm wondering what I should do wrt to reporting that.05:01
pkh#ubuntu-kernel05:01
broderslangasek: can you or possibly somebody else from foundations look into/fix bug #941867? i would but i'm not going to have time in the next few weeks (starting a new job on monday)09:29
ubottuLaunchpad bug 941867 in insserv (Ubuntu) "after upgrade to 1.14.0-2.1ubuntu0.1 0 dpkg --configure ror" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/94186709:29
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PaoloRotoloHi al!13:20
PaoloRotoloall*13:20
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georgelappieshi all, I am using 12.04 I am getting random crashes to a terminal like screen were I have to hard reboot the laptop. this never happened in any of the prior ubuntu releases. Is there a known issue at the moment?13:43
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kklimondageorgelappies: hard to say, I'm not seeing this problem14:50
kklimondageorgelappies: if X is crashing it should ask you to upload the report to LP14:51
georgelappieskklimonda: it does look like X, i tried ATI proprietary drivers as well but the crash still happens...15:06
georgelappieskklimonda: where could the log files be that would indicate the source of this bug? can I somehow enable logging?>15:24
kklimondageorgelappies: if it crashed you should get a log in /var/crash15:28
georgelappieskklimonda: if it is not in /var/crash does it mean that maybe the kernel crashed and not X?15:31
kklimondageorgelappies: ah yes, that's also possible (I think I misread your question)15:31
georgelappieskklimonda: is their log files the kernel writes to on a crash?15:34
kklimondageorgelappies: I'd try to ask people on #ubuntu-x in that case during week, they have more experience debugging such issues15:34
kklimondageorgelappies: you can check /var/log/syslog and /var/log/syslog.115:35
kklimondaif computer hasn't completely locked up there is a chance that something ended up there15:36
georgelappieskklimonda: thanks, will do ;)16:06
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slangasekbroder: yeah... sorry, I had foreseen that as a possible issue when reviewing your patch but had assumed nobody would have a *partially* fixed system in this way18:42
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Spartan29hallo!20:31
Spartan29 I've a trouble. I can't share files from linux to windows, files are in a folder of an NTFS partition mounted on boot time. What i see is that i can't change folder and than in it contained files. Can someone help me?20:31
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juliohmSomeone could reproduce the bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/procps/+bug/96534123:28
ubottuLaunchpad bug 965341 in procps (Ubuntu) "watch command line utility crashes with segfault when processing binary output" [Undecided,New]23:28
juliohmHow are launchpad bugs triggered? There are days since i reported the bug and stills undecided state.23:29
penguin42juliohm: It relies on someone triaging it - there are lots of bugs, so it's a matter of time available and luck, it depends on the package as well and if someone tries it23:35
astraljavajuliohm: They are not automagically handled, except for some simple cases. They need to be triaged in order to progress. More info on #ubuntu-bugs channel.23:35
juliohmUnderstand, just wondering because that was my first report to launchpad. I was thinking the community was more active in the sense that the bug is easily reproducible. In other track systems i've reporting bugs, the state is decided pretty fast.23:41
penguin42juliohm: Until someone looks at it, they don't realise it's so easy to reproduce!23:43
juliohmpenguin42, oh, i was thinking people is notified in their mail box with some kind of summary of what the bug is about. :-)23:44
juliohmAnyways, thank you for take the look. ;-)23:45
penguin42juliohm: Some people will be, but they just get zillions of notifications; so they pick off stuff which is affecting lots of people or causing major panics and occasionally get around to looking at the rest23:46
juliohmI can imagine a lot of notifications, one more reason why i have to make a post about how to contribute in launchpad. Do you have some nice blog post about contributing with Ubuntu on Launchpad?23:49
penguin42juliohm: possibly https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs   although it doesn't say much about what happens next23:50
juliohmpenguin42, that one i already know23:51
juliohmBut i'm talking about the launchpad features, the daily activities of a Ubuntu-bug-reporter23:51
penguin42juliohm: there is a #launchpad that may help somewhat - but that's the mehcanics of the system more, #ubuntu-bugs is perhaps a better place to ask about that, and see the info on bugsquad and bugcontrol23:54
penguin42any libc standards lawyers about - juliohm's bug seems to be isprint segfaulting when passed invalid input - I just don't know whether it's correct for it to do that23:55
juliohmok, thanks penguin42 , i'll ask in the appropriate channel. ;-)23:55
juliohmpenguin42, the bug with watch is not just a print in the binary file, because watch is interactive, it should hang until a Ctrl+c23:56
penguin42the manpage for isprint and friends says 'These functions check whether c, which must have the value of an unsigned char or EOF, ....' - is it reasonable for it to seg if the value isn't an unsigned char or EOF?23:56
juliohmfor me, segfault is always a bug23:56
penguin42juliohm: The question is whether the bug is in watch or the C library23:57
juliohmindependently of the program.23:57
juliohmoh23:57
juliohmI don't know.23:57
cjwatsonthe behaviour of isprint is undefined if it is passed something other than a value representable as an unsigned char or EOF; undefined behaviour includes the potential to segfault23:59
cjwatson(C99 7.4 para 1)23:59

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