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bazhang@mark #ubuntu  sddhrthrt warned repeatedly -including PM- about being offtopic05:21
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bazhang<sltycyborg> Bazhang, correct me if I am wrong, but I will get timed out of my personal messing on this channel if I do not post on the main channel, correct06:51
bazhangthat seems odd. like he/she is PMing people in #ubuntu06:52
ubottuIn #ubuntu-offtopic, Seveas said: ubottu, bomb is <reply> ●~*08:03
bazhang<lalalelelulu> bazhang shouldnt i say something about me???08:10
bazhanga lot of help me!!11 despite being given numerous links to read08:10
oCeanbazhang: lars probably?08:16
bazhangoCean, that was my thought too08:16
bazhangnow in PM and nary a word08:16
MyrttiI really don't feel comfortable for gask8er compiling an old version of gspca driver10:10
MyrttiI suspect his problems are elsewhere10:10
Myrttihe is on 11.10, isn't that supposed to have gspca anyway?10:10
MyrttiI give up10:12
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bazhangxabster2 is getting annoying14:28
bazhang@mark #ubuntu  [Xabster2] (~Xabster@188.114.146.89): Michael K. Møller-Andersen cursing, cross-posting helpme! attitude14:34
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bazhangI doubt thats intentional by bastidrazor15:22
ikoniasent bastidrazor a pm to pm me when he's sorted his connection out15:23
ikoniaas in keyboard issue15:23
bazhanghe has some little kids iirc15:23
ikoniayup, just muted him and pm'd him15:23
oCeankids more likely than cat :)15:23
ikoniait was his daughter15:23
ikoniahe's just pm'd me15:23
oCeanhehe15:23
bazhangmy view is to just stop supporting them if they are crossposting, and with that attitude15:28
ikoniaI'm leaving now as I'm not in the mood for idiots like rhizmoe I suggest someone pay attention to him in #ubuntu15:41
ikoniaquestion: quite a few people have been using the Gimp PPA recently without actually knowing they have installed it, how can this be happening17:37
pangolinikonia, getting a deb from random site which adds the ppa to sources18:25
pangolinmuch like google chrome does18:26
FlannelApart from being bad, does it at least play well with others, and add itself to /etc/apt/sources.list.d/?18:43
ikoniaFlannel: hard to tell, the people having the problem are unwilling/unable to confirm18:46
Flannelikonia: another easy way (besides "look in that folder") is to ask them to pastebin the output of apt-get update (which will include results from all things), and then pastebin the sources.list (and subtract).  In this case, wouldn't have helped, but it's sometimes easier to do that (the former) then "Ok, now look in file A, now file B, does it have it?" etc18:52
ikoniaFlannel: it doesn't any more annoyingly18:53
ikoniaFlannel: it only shows the host "ppa.ubuntu.com"18:53
ikoniawhen they changed the layout for how PPA's where accessed it's made that old trick not work18:53
ikoniathat used to be my old trick too18:53
FlannelHmmm.  Does that mean that apt-cache policy becomes less useful for discening individual PPAs as well?18:55
ikoniathat still works, but you've got to be specific about packages and versions to work out the ppa18:56
FlannelWhere would the PPA bits be in that?18:57
Flannel(I have no PPAs and have no intention of enabling any, or I'd check myself)18:57
ikoniasame here18:57
ikoniayou've baiscally got to call out the package then query the two versions it lists to veify where they came from18:58
ikoniait's not a big deal and works well, and really is the "proper" way, rather than my old scrappy tricks18:58
Flanneloh, so the policy command itself is effectively useless for PPAs18:59
ikoniabut looking int apt-get used to be easier for people so I could see wthoug 10 commands18:59
ikoniaFlannel: well, it will show the two versions eg: main and ppa18:59
FlannelSure, but if you have two PPA versions, theyll look the same (other than version)18:59
ikoniayes, I see where you are going, I'd assume so18:59
Flannel(two PPAs providing the same package is probably bad news anyway, but...)19:00
ikonia(like you, not got PPA's enabled)19:00
popeyyou want madison19:46
popeyhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/909208/ for example19:46
popeyshows exactly where the packages come from19:47
pangolin!info madison-lite20:03
ubottumadison-lite (source: madison-lite): display versions of Debian packages in an archive. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.15 (oneiric), package size 12 kB, installed size 92 kB20:03
pangolinpopey, that ^20:03
popeynot need, apt-cache madison is already installed20:04
pangolinlol all this time we had the tool and didn't know20:05
pangolinpopey, great tip. thank you20:05
MyrttiI need glasses20:05
Myrttiwhere are my glasses20:05
pangolinon your head?20:07
Myrttinope, have no idea, possibly by the bed somewhere20:07
Myrttibut I turned the lights off for Earth Hour and it's dark now.20:07
MyrttiI guess I could feel my way to the lightswitch20:08
popeylolhour20:11
pangolinI turn my lights of for at least 7 hours every night.20:11
pangolinthe earth owes me20:11
pangolinoff*20:11
Myrttiaw you sceptics can't ruin my day20:11
* popey switches on a few extra lights to compensate20:13
Unit193I've got enough computers here to compensate.20:14
pangolinin Quebec we use hydro electricity, no coal burned and only a few thousand natives displaced.20:14
Myrttishush20:14
pangolin:/20:15
pangolin@mark #ubuntu hi675445 (~robert@host86-140-99-76.range86-140.btcentralplus.com) posting random youtube links.22:57
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SH|TTY_MONKEYyall buncha fag i ts23:38
pangolinwhat does i ts mean?23:41

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