[05:21] <bazhang> @mark #ubuntu  sddhrthrt warned repeatedly -including PM- about being offtopic
 Bazhang, correct me if I am wrong, but I will get timed out of my personal messing on this channel if I do not post on the main channel, correct
[06:52] <bazhang> that seems odd. like he/she is PMing people in #ubuntu
 bazhang shouldnt i say something about me???
[08:10] <bazhang> a lot of help me!!11 despite being given numerous links to read
[08:16] <oCean> bazhang: lars probably?
[08:16] <bazhang> oCean, that was my thought too
[08:16] <bazhang> now in PM and nary a word
[10:10] <Myrtti> I really don't feel comfortable for gask8er compiling an old version of gspca driver
[10:10] <Myrtti> I suspect his problems are elsewhere
[10:10] <Myrtti> he is on 11.10, isn't that supposed to have gspca anyway?
[10:12] <Myrtti> I give up
[14:28] <bazhang> xabster2 is getting annoying
[14:34] <bazhang> @mark #ubuntu  [Xabster2] (~Xabster@188.114.146.89): Michael K. Møller-Andersen cursing, cross-posting helpme! attitude
[15:22] <bazhang> I doubt thats intentional by bastidrazor
[15:23] <ikonia> sent bastidrazor a pm to pm me when he's sorted his connection out
[15:23] <ikonia> as in keyboard issue
[15:23] <bazhang> he has some little kids iirc
[15:23] <ikonia> yup, just muted him and pm'd him
[15:23] <oCean> kids more likely than cat :)
[15:23] <ikonia> it was his daughter
[15:23] <ikonia> he's just pm'd me
[15:23] <oCean> hehe
[15:28] <bazhang> my view is to just stop supporting them if they are crossposting, and with that attitude
[15:41] <ikonia> I'm leaving now as I'm not in the mood for idiots like rhizmoe I suggest someone pay attention to him in #ubuntu
[17:37] <ikonia> question: quite a few people have been using the Gimp PPA recently without actually knowing they have installed it, how can this be happening
[18:25] <pangolin> ikonia, getting a deb from random site which adds the ppa to sources
[18:26] <pangolin> much like google chrome does
[18:43] <Flannel> Apart from being bad, does it at least play well with others, and add itself to /etc/apt/sources.list.d/?
[18:46] <ikonia> Flannel: hard to tell, the people having the problem are unwilling/unable to confirm
[18:52] <Flannel> ikonia: another easy way (besides "look in that folder") is to ask them to pastebin the output of apt-get update (which will include results from all things), and then pastebin the sources.list (and subtract).  In this case, wouldn't have helped, but it's sometimes easier to do that (the former) then "Ok, now look in file A, now file B, does it have it?" etc
[18:53] <ikonia> Flannel: it doesn't any more annoyingly
[18:53] <ikonia> Flannel: it only shows the host "ppa.ubuntu.com"
[18:53] <ikonia> when they changed the layout for how PPA's where accessed it's made that old trick not work
[18:53] <ikonia> that used to be my old trick too
[18:55] <Flannel> Hmmm.  Does that mean that apt-cache policy becomes less useful for discening individual PPAs as well?
[18:56] <ikonia> that still works, but you've got to be specific about packages and versions to work out the ppa
[18:57] <Flannel> Where would the PPA bits be in that?
[18:57] <Flannel> (I have no PPAs and have no intention of enabling any, or I'd check myself)
[18:57] <ikonia> same here
[18:58] <ikonia> you've baiscally got to call out the package then query the two versions it lists to veify where they came from
[18:58] <ikonia> it's not a big deal and works well, and really is the "proper" way, rather than my old scrappy tricks
[18:59] <Flannel> oh, so the policy command itself is effectively useless for PPAs
[18:59] <ikonia> but looking int apt-get used to be easier for people so I could see wthoug 10 commands
[18:59] <ikonia> Flannel: well, it will show the two versions eg: main and ppa
[18:59] <Flannel> Sure, but if you have two PPA versions, theyll look the same (other than version)
[18:59] <ikonia> yes, I see where you are going, I'd assume so
[19:00] <Flannel> (two PPAs providing the same package is probably bad news anyway, but...)
[19:00] <ikonia> (like you, not got PPA's enabled)
[19:46] <popey> you want madison
[19:46] <popey> http://paste.ubuntu.com/909208/ for example
[19:47] <popey> shows exactly where the packages come from
[20:03] <pangolin> !info madison-lite
[20:03] <pangolin> popey, that ^
[20:04] <popey> not need, apt-cache madison is already installed
[20:05] <pangolin> lol all this time we had the tool and didn't know
[20:05] <pangolin> popey, great tip. thank you
[20:05] <Myrtti> I need glasses
[20:05] <Myrtti> where are my glasses
[20:07] <pangolin> on your head?
[20:07] <Myrtti> nope, have no idea, possibly by the bed somewhere
[20:07] <Myrtti> but I turned the lights off for Earth Hour and it's dark now.
[20:08] <Myrtti> I guess I could feel my way to the lightswitch
[20:11] <popey> lolhour
[20:11] <pangolin> I turn my lights of for at least 7 hours every night.
[20:11] <pangolin> the earth owes me
[20:11] <pangolin> off*
[20:11] <Myrtti> aw you sceptics can't ruin my day
[20:13]  * popey switches on a few extra lights to compensate
[20:14] <Unit193> I've got enough computers here to compensate.
[20:14] <pangolin> in Quebec we use hydro electricity, no coal burned and only a few thousand natives displaced.
[20:14] <Myrtti> shush
[20:15] <pangolin> :/
[22:57] <pangolin> @mark #ubuntu hi675445 (~robert@host86-140-99-76.range86-140.btcentralplus.com) posting random youtube links.
[23:38] <SH|TTY_MONKEY> yall buncha fag i ts
[23:41] <pangolin> what does i ts mean?