[00:00] Azelphur: have you tried espeak? [00:01] ali1234: yea, it's a little better but still not great [00:01] the voices seem really really deep on it too for some reason [00:02] so change the pitch? [00:03] yea I played around with it a lot, it's just not really approaching the web based ones I've seen [00:03] espeak -p 0 -s 80 [00:03] ^ sarcasm machine [00:03] lol [00:08] yes wub | flite -f - [00:08] ^ autodubstep [00:08] yes oo | espeak -p 0 -s 80 [00:09] i don't know what it is but its very annoying [00:09] haha [00:13] flite isn't that bad [00:16] ali1234: reverse engineered the protocol on that web demo and implemented it in python [00:16] \m/ [00:17] flite -voice rms is quite good actually [00:17] * Azelphur has a nose at that [00:18] this works though, I can shove anything I want at the acapela demo now :) [00:18] ali1234: seems kinda wobbly, but it is a step up :) [00:19] they will clearly ban you though [00:19] *shrug* maybe, I'm only doing one small call every day, I'll probably never be noticed. [00:19] it's only for personal use, not like I'm releasing it or anything [06:30] Mornin' [06:43] Hello webpigeo1 [07:58] Morning! [07:59] Mornin' popey! [08:52] morning [09:02] * ball waves [09:06] Azelphur: use openMary, it is really good [09:11] http://mumble.libertus.co.uk:59125/ [09:13] http://mumble.libertus.co.uk:59125/process?INPUT_TYPE=TEXT&OUTPUT_TYPE=AUDIO&INPUT_TEXT=Azelphur%20this%20sounds%20OK%20to%20me%2C%20what%20do%20you%20think%3F&OUTPUT_TEXT=&effect_Volume_selected=&effect_Volume_parameters=amount%3A2.0%3B&effect_Volume_default=Default&effect_Volume_help=Help&effect_TractScaler_selected=&effect_TractScaler_parameters=amount%3A1.5%3B&effect_TractScaler_default=Default&effect_TractScaler_help=Help&effect_F0Scale ... [09:13] ... _selected=&effect_F0Scale_parameters=f0Scale%3A2.0%3B&effect_F0Scale_default=Default&effect_F0Scale_help=Help&effect_F0Add_selected=&effect_F0Add_parameters=f0Add%3A50.0%3B&effect_F0Add_default=Default&effect_F0Add_help=Help&effect_Rate_selected=&effect_Rate_parameters=durScale%3A1.5%3B&effect_Rate_default=Default&effect_Rate_help=Help&effect_Robot_selected=&effect_Robot_parameters=amount%3A100.0%3B&effect_Robot_default=Default&effect_Ro ... [09:13] ... bot_help=Help&effect_Whisper_selected=&effect_Whisper_parameters=amount%3A100.0%3B&effect_Whisper_default=Default&effect_Whisper_help=Help&effect_Stadium_selected=&effect_Stadium_parameters=amount%3A100.0&effect_Stadium_default=Default&effect_Stadium_help=Help&effect_Chorus_selected=&effect_Chorus_parameters=delay1%3A466%3Bamp1%3A0.54%3Bdelay2%3A600%3Bamp2%3A-0.10%3Bdelay3%3A250%3Bamp3%3A0.30&effect_Chorus_default=Default&effect_Chorus_h ... [09:13] ... elp=Help&effect_FIRFilter_selected=&effect_FIRFilter_parameters=type%3A3%3Bfc1%3A500.0%3Bfc2%3A2000.0&effect_FIRFilter_default=Default&effect_FIRFilter_help=Help&effect_JetPilot_selected=&effect_JetPilot_parameters=&effect_JetPilot_default=Default&effect_JetPilot_help=Help&HELP_TEXT=&exampleTexts=&VOICE_SELECTIONS=dfki-obadiah-hsmm%20en_GB%20male%20hmm&AUDIO_OUT=WAVE_FILE&LOCALE=en_GB&VOICE=dfki-obadiah-hsmm&AUDIO=WAVE_FILE [09:13] ooops [09:13] AlanBell: fail! [09:13] :D [09:13] http://bit.ly/HvCVg5 [09:14] as you can see, it has a restful web interface with lots of parameters you can pass in the URL string :) [09:15] the Obadiah and Prudence voices are quite good [09:15] * ball hides [09:22] oh dear. [09:24] http://mary.opendfki.de/wiki/4.3.1 I should install the latest version [09:24] oh, won't help for web based traffic, just local sockets [09:32] *yawns* [09:32] morning [09:53] good morning everyone. [10:00] !info gnome-shell precise [10:00] gnome-shell (source: gnome-shell): graphical shell for the GNOME desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.4.0-0ubuntu2 (precise), package size 330 kB, installed size 900 kB (Only available for any all) [10:00] !info gnome-shell unstable [10:00] gnome-shell (source: gnome-shell): graphical shell for the GNOME desktop. In component main, is optional. Version 3.2.2.1-2 (unstable), package size 348 kB, installed size 933 kB (Only available for any all) [10:00] that answers that question. [10:03] we have a newer gnome-shell than Debian? [10:04] yes. [10:24] oops http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbvncFwCkmA [10:25] luckily youtube has a facility to rotate videos [10:26] I thought that was just for trolling [10:27] edit in progress, somewhere out in the cloud a server is working quite hard to flip that video [10:44] Would be nice if that was the actual message that YouTube displayed [10:47] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbvncFwCkmA right way up now [11:56] want to help someone out and gain some karma . https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/192171 [12:00] ooh, that looks like a nasty bug [12:01] that is a "did anyone even think about testing this stuff??" kind of bug [12:01] aye but he logged it as a question to launhcpad [12:01] sure, it is a good question [12:01] so I had a back up now button active [12:02] so removed it from lp and back to ubuntu [12:02] I hit the automatic backup switch and the backup now button greys out [12:02] Files /usr/share/aiccu/conf-templates/aiccu.conf and /etc/aiccu.conf differ [12:02] aptitude safe-upgrade is sticking at that, wont go any further, how do i get it to continue? [12:02] click the switch again and the backup now button stays greyed out and I can't get it back [12:04] check that the "require password" box hasn't popped up somewhere [12:04] gordonjcp: just spotted that, it is a popunder [12:04] if I select "Automatic backups" on, it pops that dialogue up but it's hidden [12:04] although it does shake the backup icon in the mac tray thing [12:14] that definitely seems to be it [13:31] [Gareth France] Tottenham Court Road 31st March 2012 - http://cliftonts.co.uk/cubuntu/?p=140 [13:34] updating to precise... [13:35] * brobostigon crosses his fingers for Myrtti, hoping for no breakage. [13:38] i upgraded a revo in norway remotely from lucid to oneiric and the only issue i encountered was it removed the nvidia driver, everything else just worked, very impressive [13:39] thats good to hear, as i have been thinking about updating my vps. === daubers_ is now known as daubers [13:51] you have to be careful when upgrading VPS [13:51] they usually use a custom kernel [13:51] that can cause lots of problems [13:53] ali1234: in this case, as i am with bitfolk, and they use xen, it uses that kernel. [13:55] i use a stock ubuntu kernel on my vps [13:55] i think [13:55] Linux bishop.popey.com 2.6.32-316-ec2 #31-Ubuntu SMP Wed May 18 14:09:06 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux [13:55] yeah, the ec2 kernel [13:55] with common virtualization systems you don't get a choice in the kernel used [13:55] ie parallels [13:56] my VPS uses 2.6.18-028stab094.3 [13:56] Linux ptaylor 2.6.32-38-generic-pae #83-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jan 4 12:11:13 UTC 2012 i686 GNU/Linux [13:56] i am totally wrong, i uses standard kernel. [13:57] it used to use 2.6.9 i think [13:57] i had to do a reimage to get the kernel upgraded though [13:57] anyway, always check this before upgrading a VPS, because if it's really old the upgraded install just won't boot at all [13:59] it will be lts to lts. [14:01] yeah, make sure you have serial console access [14:01] I wouldn't upgrade a public facing vps to 12.04 yet [14:02] * AlanBell has customer stuff running 12.04 [14:02] i agree, i am just trying to plan. [14:18] * Daviey has some stuff still running dapper. :o [14:28] looking forward to 12.04.1 [14:28] multiarch will really save me a lot of trouble [14:28] 12.04 is out? [14:28] no :( [14:28] but i'm not going to put 12.04 on a production system [14:29] * czajkowski pokes Daviey [14:29] I'm thinking of putting it on my gaming rig [14:30] so only issue if it went wrong, would be a bad tempered hamitron ;) [14:30] go for it [14:30] do the upgrade and file bugs if things are not right [14:30] only when released [14:31] bugs are harder to fix after release [14:31] especially if they are things that get burned to the CDs [14:31] only got 128kbit internet atm [14:31] (throttled) [14:40] The upgrade has completed but there were errors during the upgrade [14:40] process. [14:40] :-| [15:03] right, Unity didn't start :-| [15:07] Myrtti: unity --reset [15:08] also, just make sure there's no outstanding packages needing configuring with a dpkg --configure -a [15:13] all the stuff from the top bar is gone [15:13] starting to regret upgrading :-| [15:17] stuff? [15:17] top bar has only the clock [15:18] and now my cursor got stuck [15:18] empathy doesn't work... [15:19] Myrtti, sounds like you didn't get a full upgrade, try doing a dist-upgrade [15:19] or maybe install ubuntu-desktop [15:21] What software could I use to show a page to the users when they try to make a www request on my wifi network? In hotels they ask you to pay or get a passcode or something. I'm looking to display a php page stating terms of connecting. [15:28] oh dear lord [15:28] 1015 upgraded, 245 newly installed, 13 to remove and 0 not upgraded. [15:28] kvarley, I don't have a shrink-wrapped answer for you, but "captive portal" is your google-fu, if it helps nudge you in the right direction [15:29] shauno: Thanks so much! I was searching for what I wanted and getting nothing but people patronisingly telling me how to connect to an unsecured wifi network -_- [15:42] I just realised that I usually come with my Ubuntu problems here instead of #ubuntu [15:47] I tend to do the same. I have a "woah the floor's spinning" issue with the shear volume in #ubuntu [15:49] On that note - anyone know how to make the screensaver secure in Oneiric, so that the menu bar isn't visible? [15:54] shauno: I don't have the volume problem - it's just that I don't usually get any answers from there [16:21] AlanBell: holy crap that was a long link haha [16:22] AlanBell: tis ok, I'll implement it if I ever get messed about with my solution :P [16:25] I was trying to work out how much effort it would be to add a new voice [16:26] did you see what I did with it in the end? [16:27] no [16:27] AlanBell: I found one of those high quality demos online, and reverse engineered the protocol the flash app uses to talk to the server :P [16:28] how does openmary compare? [16:29] not /great/ [16:29] http://www.acapela-group.com/text-to-speech-interactive-demo.html check out UK Peter [16:30] ok will do later, I am on a slow gprs connection now [16:31] how does their protocol work? [16:31] AlanBell: POST DATA receive partially busted URL to an MP3 stream [16:31] your obviously not meant to abuse their web demo though, so personal use only really [16:31] but that's fine for me \o/ [16:32] ok [16:32] I can give you the python if you want it, though [16:33] that would be great [16:34] turn it into a speech dispatcher plugin and it will work with Orca [16:34] haha [16:35] AlanBell: and then get caught and they block it and then I have no text to speech :( [16:36] one sec, I'll clean up the code a bit for some reason I accidentally overwrote my version that streamed it o.O [16:44] aw man, this reminds me that once I get this done, I still need to hunt for the Java somewhere [16:49] AlanBell: http://pastebin.com/jNg31ax5 couldn't get on_message to call for some reason but you get the idea. [16:49] java /o\ [16:49] expires in an hour, so save it [16:50] time for me to go cook dinner \o/ [16:50] directhex: I know... [16:50] stupid banking solutions... [16:52] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rznYifPHxDg ha ;) google maps is everywhere [16:56] Looks like an April fool [16:56] well, yes obviously ;P [17:09] hahaha [17:09] the quest butotn actually exists [17:09] I'm using it right now [17:09] London is a little castle, hahahaha [17:13] anyway, hijacking channel to talk about ISAs. does anyone have one, any tips, etc? :P [17:16] I hate to say it but I think santander has the best rate, 6.1% for first year [17:18] i think the google maps thing is a promotion for a new dragon quest game [17:18] well they need to offer a good interest since they are lending the money to stupid people overspending on weddings and useless tat [17:19] (Santander advertises in a Finnish wedding magazine for allowing people to have their dream wedding) [17:20] haha [17:40] Hello everybody.I just connected a logitech webcamera on my pc and i dont see that is active what can i do? [18:02] Is it possible to use iptables to redirect any new mac addresses to a different location? [18:16] oh good grief how difficult it is to find from ccsm how many virtual desktops I want and in what formation [18:17] ha, found it [18:43] kvarley: I think you need something like ebtables for that [18:45] penguin42: Ok, I'll check it out, thanks. [18:49] Azelphur: those Acapela voices are pretty decent [18:49] AlanBell: they are indeed [18:49] I think OpenMary is quite close though [18:50] yea, it's closer than anything else I've seen [18:53] http://mary.dfki.de:59125/ try some of the unit selection voices too [19:02] AlanBell: spike is very good [19:11] dumdidumdidududum... [19:13] Azelphur: I am very tempted to make an Alan voice [19:13] haha [19:14] is it that easy to make a voice? [19:14] AlanBell: But will your chickens respond to it? [19:15] http://mary.opendfki.de/wiki/VoiceImportToolsTutorial [19:17] I am trying to find out how much recording you need to do [19:17] it would appear that the process is fairly automatic [19:19] just read out and record this lot http://paste.ubuntu.com/909176/ [19:20] or any other text but apparently that is a decent script [19:20] create lots of samples along with the transcripts of them and it sorts it out [19:21] I didn't realise it'd be that straightforward. I wonder if you could find sufficient corpus in a podcast to digitize people unknowingly [19:21] Evening all [19:21] \o popeyx0r [19:27] Hi all, just looking at creating an in house nas using an old pc. Only linux and android to use it. Woul dNFS be the best solution? [19:29] * penguin42 isn't sure what Android can use [19:30] android tab is using shared drives at the moment so I hope there should be no issues [19:58] some protocols are faster than others if you're serving media - samba is rather slow, for example === shane is now known as Guest84782 [20:26] can someone please tell me the channel to report 12.04 beta 2 bugs === Guest84782 is now known as shaneo1 [20:29] where can I report a bug please [20:29] for ubuntu 12.04 [20:29] shaneo1: #ubuntu+1 [20:30] ok thanks :) [20:30] shaneo1: want to describe it? [20:30] shaneo1: also launchpad, ofcourse, : [20:30] :) [20:30] when I plug in headphones the audio is not muted on my speakers [20:30] it worked in 11.10 [20:31] shaneo1: what machine? [20:31] i did raise a bug for alpha 2, beta 1 but still it remains beta 2 [20:31] acer aspire 8930 laptop [20:31] ah, if there's already a bug reported then you dont need to file a new one [20:31] what's the bug number? [20:32] Its here I raised it. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/941219 [20:32] Launchpad bug 941219 in alsa-driver (Ubuntu) "Speaker Sound does not disable when Headphones are connected. Ubuntu 12.04 Beta 2" [Undecided,Confirmed] [20:32] but im a musician and this is extremely annoying. [20:33] thats the one [20:33] I guess I will just have to wait [20:33] * popey clicks [20:34] im not sure the jack detect is a part of the alsa driver, im still learning linux [20:35] i'll pop along to ubuntu+1 and see what the devs have to say [20:35] thanks for your help peeps [20:45] shaneo1: I dont think a plethora of devs hang out in +1 [20:52] no, I guess I will have to be patient [20:53] though it is annoying that Ubuntu can be good in one release and then the next broken [20:54] Been using ubuntu for the past 2 years, dropped MS and introduced it in my company. [20:56] shaneo1: did jack detection on that laptop work in older versions? [20:56] sure did [20:57] 11.10 being the last time [21:02] Think it has something to do with alsa-hda-dkms [21:28] aloha [21:30] top of the evening to you czajkowski :) [21:31] evening all [21:31] am having fun :D https://twitter.com/#!/czajkowski/status/186200303543123968/photo/1 [21:32] cool! [21:32] what does the sky remote do in all that? [21:32] keeps the tv on watching old movies [21:32] most important [21:33] ah right, fair enough :) [21:33] what are you making? [21:33] occams razor :P [21:33] Digital AGC [21:33] what is that mess [21:33] on top of a railway censor that measures the height and stagger of over head cables [21:37] AlanBell: has the reading meetup happened yet ? [21:37] czajkowski: nice [21:38] aye and I have a arduino set here so we can tuck into that during the weeks that I'm here [21:39] nice work [21:39] czajkowski, how much to arduinos set you back? i know the unit is like £50 or so, but i'm thinking for all the equipment and extras [21:39] I need to get some breadboards and stuff to use with my arduino + NXP stuff + et [21:39] c [21:40] gord: started kit [21:40] you can get them on ebay for cheap (starter kit) [21:40] straight for hong kong [21:40] gord: 50 quid? only if you get one with a pile of extras, surely - clones are much cheaper [21:40] *from [21:41] gord: http://www.earthshineelectronics.com/10-arduino-starter-kit.html [21:41] hummmm, neat [21:42] i have the feeling that if i got one i might make it flash an led, declare myself an electical engineer and put it in the cupboard of ignored computer parts though [21:42] gord: same :( [21:43] depends [21:43] can do lotta funky stuff [21:43] plus dad is an electonics enginner [21:43] engineer [21:43] so somthing new to do together [21:43] haha [21:43] brilliant [21:43] yeah, they look like tonnes of fun [21:44] anyone go to wembley today ? [21:45] eww, hud on the screen that doesn't have the launcher looks silly :( [21:46] mattt: yes, it was thursday [21:46] :( did many show? [21:46] a dozen or so [21:46] wow, that's quite good [21:46] AlanBell: do you ever go to the rdggeek thing ? [21:46] no, I am not particularly near to Reading [21:47] hmmm [21:47] super+tab [21:47] then super to get out of it [21:47] nothing has focus [21:48] AlanBell: do you get that ^^ ? [21:52] i get that [21:55] also [21:55] (I will file that one in a mo) [21:56] alt+f1, tap it a few times [21:56] when you press the second time it goes back to the app you had open [21:56] but the menu bar shows something for a split second before the right title [21:56] cant quite make out what it is [21:56] might be ubuntu desktop [21:59] damnit, super+tab does something completely different as another user [21:59] gord: any idea what super+tab is supposed to do? [22:00] ah, popup explains it [22:09] gord: bug 970420 if you could confirm pls ☺ [22:09] Launchpad bug 970420 in unity "Super+Tab, super, loses focus" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/970420 [22:13] done done [22:14] ta [22:14] while you're here ☺ [22:14] open a terminal, press and hold F1 [22:14] er [22:14] press and hold alt+F1 [22:15] should toggle the bfb on and off [22:15] do you see "crap" in the terminal? [22:15] where 'crap' is ;3P over and over [22:15] ;3P [22:15] yeah [22:15] \o/ [22:15] its a compiz thing [22:16] we had the same jibberish with hud alt [22:18] bug 970425 [22:18] Launchpad bug 970425 in unity "Keypresses not always captured, leak to apps" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/970425 [22:18] pls to be confirming [22:18] and/or re-assigning :D [22:18] found another too [22:20] hmm I seem to have all my applications numbered [22:20] and it wont feck off [22:20] tab super [22:21] i filed that the other day [22:21] hmm [22:31] bug 970434 [22:31] Launchpad bug 970434 in unity "menu bar flickers app name and window title when ALT+F1'ing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/970434 [22:39] popey: did you reassign Alt? I found it a PITA with irssi [22:43] no [22:44] it doesnt affect me with irssi [22:44] EVERY. OTHER. APP. Yes. [22:44] :D [22:45] apparently more than 1M people have ordered Raspberry Pi ⍨ [22:45] Imagine if all those ran Ubuntu ☹ [22:48] I thought ubuntu didn't support the cpu? [22:48] popey: Ordered: 1M Delivered: About 10 [22:48] well, yeh, lack of cpu is more of an issue ;) [22:49] and RAM [22:50] it has plenty of RAM [22:50] ;/ [22:50] twice that of my VPS [22:51] what type of VPS is it? [22:51] when can get them easier, I may even get some for upgrades [22:51] erm [22:51] buyvm provides it [22:51] openvz is it? [22:52] (I forget the letters after "open") [22:52] think so, that's running a single kernel though shared between all the guests isn't it [22:52] yep [22:53] hamitron: that was kinda the point of the comment [22:53] we _could_ support the CPU [22:54] yeh, although ubuntu is targeting different stuff really [22:54] imo [22:54] it is more high end state of the art stuff [22:54] :) [22:55] or "stuff you can actually buy in a shop and not wait for some people to figure out they need CE mark until long after taking credit card details" [22:55] haha [22:55] easy to say as an onlooker of course [22:55] and yes, I have one on order [22:56] I haven't yet [22:56] I never rush and jump into things ;) [22:57] no wai! [22:58] gonna try 12.04 quickly though, rather than wait 6 months and be a release behind ;D [22:59] from what i hear, debian-for-pi was largely killed by douchebags being douchey and claiming to speak for the project - enough to scare off the pi people [22:59] hmm - it would just need a kernel build for it wouldnt it [23:00] debian user space should run on the pi unchanged [23:00] (armel not armhf) [23:01] I thought there was an image [23:01] assumed it has a kernel and everything needed [23:07] there is a debian image, and a fedora one [23:07] and iirc an arch one [23:07] I only downloaded the first [23:10] popey: only one of those is supported long term [23:10] penguin42: a kernel and an installer. but more than that, it requires the pi people not to feel like they're unwanted by hostile devs [23:11] popey: This should run Ubuntu (with a kernel tweek) - and I'm not betting on which will arrive first: http://www.rhombus-tech.net/allwinner_a10/ [23:12] directhex: It shouldn't actually need an installer; a prebuilt image would work for that type of system [23:13] penguin42: you're still actively ignoring the main issue [23:13] directhex: which is? [23:14] that the pi people were told to get knotted by members of the debian arm community, so they decided "well sod that" [23:14] they were also told not to use the ubuntu name by ubuntu community ☹ [23:14] directhex: That is unfortunate, and I don't know the circumstances behind it; but frankly I don't think the Pi guys exactly handled it well either [23:15] well, yes, they believed that when someone says they speak for debian, that they really do [23:15] ditto ubuntu [23:15] popey: plus further detail i won't share [23:16] directhex: They were saying for months that it would run Ubuntu without ever actually checking whether it could, the chip they chose is not a great choice (old ARM core, video still requires closed binaries although that might get fixed etc) and they've completely ballsed up the release of the hardware [23:16] it did run ubuntu [23:16] just very old ubuntu [23:16] popey: Exactly [23:16] penguin42: there will never be "free" drivers for the gpu. the gpu isn't an add-on. it's the other way round. the gpu is the mian chip, the cpu is an afterthought [23:17] directhex: It's being reverse engineered at the moment [23:17] eh the drivers for the gpu are closed? sounds like pulsebo all over again [23:18] gord: It's normal on ARM, there are very few open ones [23:18] ah good old powervr ☹ [23:18] there is PowerVR, Mali and another I forgot; the Mali is being reverse engineered by the Lima project [23:18] Mali is the one in the chip on the Pi [23:18] don't really care if its normal or not, i learnt my lesson [23:19] gord, super-closed. [23:19] penguin42: super wrong. [23:19] directhex: Please correct me [23:19] penguin42: broadcom videocore iv. [23:19] mali is super open by comparison [23:20]