/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/03/31/#ubuntu-unity.txt

DaekdroomNo need to repeat yourself like that.00:00
manzabudsorry for that00:01
manzabudi know channels rules, sorry00:01
manzabudDaekdroom: do you like the idea?00:05
DaekdroomPersonally, no.00:05
manzabudok00:06
DaekdroomIt wouldn't blend very well with GTK00:06
manzabudwhy?00:06
Daekdroom(or any other toolkit, for that matter)00:06
DaekdroomUnless a new default theme for Ubuntu was made00:06
manzabudyes, or jkust improved00:07
manzabudi personally want to develope00:07
manzabudbut i want to know that my ideas are going to be used00:07
manzabudobviously not only my ideas BUT i want to participate00:07
mhall119manzabud: you can set the top panel transparency, IIRC00:08
manzabudbut it is not true transparent AND it won't look like the picture i show you00:09
manzabudshowed*00:09
mhall119no, it's doesn't have the rounded corner, which I think would look bad with fullscreen windows00:09
manzabudyes you are right00:10
manzabudit should be improved00:10
Daekdroomand it doesn't blend with the Launcher, given Launcher has a background color different than the panel (for most wallpapers out there)00:10
manzabudbut the idea is perfect00:10
manzabudmix everything00:10
manzabudi mean00:10
manzabudno00:10
manzabudthe top bar00:10
manzabudnow00:10
manzabud*00:10
manzabudlooks like old00:10
manzabudmean while unity dock bar looks futurist00:10
manzabuddo you understand me?00:10
manzabudwell maybe is just me, that is why i told you i am just developing the idea00:11
manzabudgnome shell looks better, but unity has more features00:11
mhall119either one you rarely see00:12
mhall119which is the best design, IMO00:12
DaekdroomI'll probably hate it if transparency is the future.00:12
manzabudsomething else00:13
manzabudand i think Daekdroom should love it00:13
mhall119I like it solid color because it matches the window decorations and doesn't look odd when they're maximized00:13
manzabudlook at this00:13
Daekdroommhall119, yeah!00:13
manzabudhttp://spiceofdesign.deviantart.com/art/Ubuntu-Concept-289644745?q=boost%3Apopular%20ubuntu%20unity&qo=3100:13
DaekdroomIt'll be difficult to blend the window titlebar to the panel if the panel is transparent and the windows are not.00:13
manzabudthis is WOW00:13
manzabudtop bar could be black when windows maximize00:14
manzabudi'll use ubuntu all my life if it looks like that00:14
DaekdroomWhat about consistency?00:14
manzabudwhat do you mean? did you look the last image?00:14
mhall119what if you have a maximized window in the background, and a non-maximized window in the foreground, transparent then or no?00:14
manzabudof course not00:15
manzabudscroll down00:15
manzabudlook at the below image00:15
manzabudthe second one00:15
manzabudlooks the third one00:15
manzabudAMAIZING00:15
manzabudBRO00:15
DaekdroomYou're totally missing the point of what he's saying, manzabud00:15
DaekdroomThose images are nowhere near covering all possibilities.00:16
manzabuddid you look the last one?00:16
manzabudwhy?00:16
manzabudwhy not?00:16
DaekdroomYes. It looks cool, but is it doable?00:16
manzabudit is fantastic00:16
manzabudof course00:16
manzabudit is00:16
DaekdroomWould new users use it easily?00:16
Daekdroom(Unity itself faced that issue)00:16
manzabudof course bro00:16
DaekdroomYou can't tell that.00:16
DaekdroomYou have to get new, non-biased, users and have them actually test it to tell.00:17
manzabudi am thinking that you are not seeing the same picture i am seeing right now00:17
manzabudit is this00:17
manzabudhttp://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/070/a/a/ubuntu_concept_by_spiceofdesign-d4sg3bd.png00:17
manzabudit is AMAIZING and DOABLE!00:18
manzabudtell me why not?00:18
manzabudplease00:18
manzabudmaybe the third one00:18
manzabudis incomplete00:18
manzabudi understand00:18
manzabudbut imagine all the optons of unity dashboard00:18
manzabudin there00:19
manzabudit would look amaizing00:19
manzabudman00:19
mhall119I don't understand what you feel is missing that this will provide00:19
mhall119are you looking for a feature change, or just a design change?00:19
Daekdroomgood-looks, something even more minimalistic, perhaps.00:19
manzabudi mean both00:19
manzabudmaybe you are right00:20
manzabudis need to be more featured00:20
manzabud*00:20
manzabudlol00:20
manzabudbut00:20
manzabudthe idea is to make it look one piece00:20
manzabudclean00:20
manzabuded00:20
manzabudfor example00:21
manzabudoh man i have to think about this00:21
manzabudimprove the ideas00:21
manzabudand something else00:22
manzabuddo you know the unity dashboard00:22
manzabud?00:22
manzabudwhy is it attached to unity dock bar00:22
manzabudwouldn't it look better00:22
manzabudif it looks like a tooltip00:22
manzabud?00:22
manzabudlet me bring you as pic00:22
manzabudhttp://mos.futurenet.com/techradar/classifications/computing/software/operating-systems/images/snowleopard-bestfeatures/2-better-stacks-420-90.jpg00:25
manzabudmhall119: when you click application folder it shows you a dashboard00:26
manzabudbut in a tooltip shape00:26
manzabuddo you get the idea my brother?00:26
manzabudmaybe this last idea could work00:27
manzabudno?00:27
manzabudlook at this one please00:27
manzabudhttp://www.blogcdn.com/www.tuaw.com/media/2010/09/1739807583f499bb0d0eo.png00:27
manzabudwe could make ubuntu unity dash look like that00:28
manzabudno?00:28
manzabudwell00:28
manzabudi mean the tooltip shape00:28
manzabudonly that00:28
manzabudthe other options must stay00:28
manzabudobviously00:28
manzabudor maybe just give it a rounded corner00:29
manzabuddash border is to heavy00:29
manzabudin my opinion00:29
thomibschaefer: no, not really01:13
thomiIt's just, I feel all lonely if I'm not on IRC.01:13
thomiit gets really quiet ;)01:13
mhall119thomi: you need more voiced in your head, to keep you company :)01:14
thominah, three is plenty already01:14
manzabudhi01:54
manzabudwhy icons in high contrast theme are incomplete?01:55
manzabudwhy can't i saend an email to this address¿? unity-design@lists.ubuntu.com01:58
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