[00:00] <Daekdroom> No need to repeat yourself like that.
[00:01] <manzabud> sorry for that
[00:01] <manzabud> i know channels rules, sorry
[00:05] <manzabud> Daekdroom: do you like the idea?
[00:05] <Daekdroom> Personally, no.
[00:06] <manzabud> ok
[00:06] <Daekdroom> It wouldn't blend very well with GTK
[00:06] <manzabud> why?
[00:06] <Daekdroom> (or any other toolkit, for that matter)
[00:06] <Daekdroom> Unless a new default theme for Ubuntu was made
[00:07] <manzabud> yes, or jkust improved
[00:07] <manzabud> i personally want to develope
[00:07] <manzabud> but i want to know that my ideas are going to be used
[00:07] <manzabud> obviously not only my ideas BUT i want to participate
[00:08] <mhall119> manzabud: you can set the top panel transparency, IIRC
[00:09] <manzabud> but it is not true transparent AND it won't look like the picture i show you
[00:09] <manzabud> showed*
[00:09] <mhall119> no, it's doesn't have the rounded corner, which I think would look bad with fullscreen windows
[00:10] <manzabud> yes you are right
[00:10] <manzabud> it should be improved
[00:10] <Daekdroom> and it doesn't blend with the Launcher, given Launcher has a background color different than the panel (for most wallpapers out there)
[00:10] <manzabud> but the idea is perfect
[00:10] <manzabud> mix everything
[00:10] <manzabud> i mean
[00:10] <manzabud> no
[00:10] <manzabud> the top bar
[00:10] <manzabud> now
[00:10] <manzabud> *
[00:10] <manzabud> looks like old
[00:10] <manzabud> mean while unity dock bar looks futurist
[00:10] <manzabud> do you understand me?
[00:11] <manzabud> well maybe is just me, that is why i told you i am just developing the idea
[00:11] <manzabud> gnome shell looks better, but unity has more features
[00:12] <mhall119> either one you rarely see
[00:12] <mhall119> which is the best design, IMO
[00:12] <Daekdroom> I'll probably hate it if transparency is the future.
[00:13] <manzabud> something else
[00:13] <manzabud> and i think Daekdroom should love it
[00:13] <mhall119> I like it solid color because it matches the window decorations and doesn't look odd when they're maximized
[00:13] <manzabud> look at this
[00:13] <Daekdroom> mhall119, yeah!
[00:13] <manzabud> http://spiceofdesign.deviantart.com/art/Ubuntu-Concept-289644745?q=boost%3Apopular%20ubuntu%20unity&qo=31
[00:13] <Daekdroom> It'll be difficult to blend the window titlebar to the panel if the panel is transparent and the windows are not.
[00:13] <manzabud> this is WOW
[00:14] <manzabud> top bar could be black when windows maximize
[00:14] <manzabud> i'll use ubuntu all my life if it looks like that
[00:14] <Daekdroom> What about consistency?
[00:14] <manzabud> what do you mean? did you look the last image?
[00:14] <mhall119> what if you have a maximized window in the background, and a non-maximized window in the foreground, transparent then or no?
[00:15] <manzabud> of course not
[00:15] <manzabud> scroll down
[00:15] <manzabud> look at the below image
[00:15] <manzabud> the second one
[00:15] <manzabud> looks the third one
[00:15] <manzabud> AMAIZING
[00:15] <manzabud> BRO
[00:15] <Daekdroom> You're totally missing the point of what he's saying, manzabud
[00:16] <Daekdroom> Those images are nowhere near covering all possibilities.
[00:16] <manzabud> did you look the last one?
[00:16] <manzabud> why?
[00:16] <manzabud> why not?
[00:16] <Daekdroom> Yes. It looks cool, but is it doable?
[00:16] <manzabud> it is fantastic
[00:16] <manzabud> of course
[00:16] <manzabud> it is
[00:16] <Daekdroom> Would new users use it easily?
[00:16] <Daekdroom> (Unity itself faced that issue)
[00:16] <manzabud> of course bro
[00:16] <Daekdroom> You can't tell that.
[00:17] <Daekdroom> You have to get new, non-biased, users and have them actually test it to tell.
[00:17] <manzabud> i am thinking that you are not seeing the same picture i am seeing right now
[00:17] <manzabud> it is this
[00:17] <manzabud> http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/070/a/a/ubuntu_concept_by_spiceofdesign-d4sg3bd.png
[00:18] <manzabud> it is AMAIZING and DOABLE!
[00:18] <manzabud> tell me why not?
[00:18] <manzabud> please
[00:18] <manzabud> maybe the third one
[00:18] <manzabud> is incomplete
[00:18] <manzabud> i understand
[00:18] <manzabud> but imagine all the optons of unity dashboard
[00:19] <manzabud> in there
[00:19] <manzabud> it would look amaizing
[00:19] <manzabud> man
[00:19] <mhall119> I don't understand what you feel is missing that this will provide
[00:19] <mhall119> are you looking for a feature change, or just a design change?
[00:19] <Daekdroom> good-looks, something even more minimalistic, perhaps.
[00:19] <manzabud> i mean both
[00:20] <manzabud> maybe you are right
[00:20] <manzabud> is need to be more featured
[00:20] <manzabud> *
[00:20] <manzabud> lol
[00:20] <manzabud> but
[00:20] <manzabud> the idea is to make it look one piece
[00:20] <manzabud> clean
[00:20] <manzabud> ed
[00:21] <manzabud> for example
[00:21] <manzabud> oh man i have to think about this
[00:21] <manzabud> improve the ideas
[00:22] <manzabud> and something else
[00:22] <manzabud> do you know the unity dashboard
[00:22] <manzabud> ?
[00:22] <manzabud> why is it attached to unity dock bar
[00:22] <manzabud> wouldn't it look better
[00:22] <manzabud> if it looks like a tooltip
[00:22] <manzabud> ?
[00:22] <manzabud> let me bring you as pic
[00:25] <manzabud> http://mos.futurenet.com/techradar/classifications/computing/software/operating-systems/images/snowleopard-bestfeatures/2-better-stacks-420-90.jpg
[00:26] <manzabud> mhall119: when you click application folder it shows you a dashboard
[00:26] <manzabud> but in a tooltip shape
[00:26] <manzabud> do you get the idea my brother?
[00:27] <manzabud> maybe this last idea could work
[00:27] <manzabud> no?
[00:27] <manzabud> look at this one please
[00:27] <manzabud> http://www.blogcdn.com/www.tuaw.com/media/2010/09/1739807583f499bb0d0eo.png
[00:28] <manzabud> we could make ubuntu unity dash look like that
[00:28] <manzabud> no?
[00:28] <manzabud> well
[00:28] <manzabud> i mean the tooltip shape
[00:28] <manzabud> only that
[00:28] <manzabud> the other options must stay
[00:28] <manzabud> obviously
[00:29] <manzabud> or maybe just give it a rounded corner
[00:29] <manzabud> dash border is to heavy
[00:29] <manzabud> in my opinion
[01:13] <thomi> bschaefer: no, not really
[01:13] <thomi> It's just, I feel all lonely if I'm not on IRC.
[01:13] <thomi> it gets really quiet ;)
[01:14] <mhall119> thomi: you need more voiced in your head, to keep you company :)
[01:14] <thomi> nah, three is plenty already
[01:54] <manzabud> hi
[01:55] <manzabud> why icons in high contrast theme are incomplete?
[01:58] <manzabud> why can't i saend an email to this address¿? unity-design@lists.ubuntu.com
[06:36] <bluefrog> hu-service using 1.2 gig of RAM. a bit too much no?
[11:45] <kklimonda> indeed