[12:55] <JonathanD> Morning PA.
[13:08]  * waltman yawns
[13:10] <JonathanD> Good morning waltman!
[13:11] <JonathanD> waltman: The 11th it is, btw.
[13:11] <JonathanD> Don't I still owe you a cheeseburger?
[13:24] <jedijf> It's World Backup Day! Celebrate by Finally Backing Up Your Stuff [World Backup Day]
[13:27] <JonathanD> Yay!
[13:29] <waltman> I'd love to join you for some cheeseburgers, but I don't think you owe me one.
[14:32] <waltman> jedijf: Time Machine is running as I type!
[15:15] <jedijf> pleia2: wow thanks
[15:15] <pleia2> sure
[15:16] <jedijf> i had to scale for launchpad was gonna offer you scaled if you needed
[15:16] <jedijf> how's wireless and is it deb or ubu?
[15:16] <pleia2> seems to have non-vector scaled fine
[15:17] <jedijf> atheros is the new broadcom
[15:18] <pleia2> yeah, ubuntu
[15:18] <jedijf> is has been, some are just flakey
[15:18] <pleia2> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/773154
[15:18] <PennBot> Title: Bug #773154 “Atheros AR9285 extremely slow & unstable” : Bugs : “linux” package : Ubuntu (at bugs.launchpad.net)
[15:18] <pleia2> lousy driver :(
[15:19] <pleia2> and apparently a regression, people report it working better in older versions (it even seems to work slightly better in 11.10 vs 12.04
[15:21] <jedijf> yeah just read that stuff
[15:21] <pleia2> lucky for me this laptop is a cheapo one that I bought to play with and do testing, not actually run around and use for real like my mini9
[15:22] <pleia2> but it's still a sucky problem
[15:22] <jedijf> not gonna get the backport and blacklist the new one?
[15:22] <pleia2> backport didn't work, blacklist driver is for acer's conflicting module, this is a lenovo
[15:22] <pleia2> the removal of hwcrypt when I load the module didn't work either
[15:23] <pleia2> sitting next to the access point works :)
[15:23] <pleia2> but if I wanted to sit next to the access point I'd just use my desktop..
[15:27] <jedijf> pleia2: wicd?
[15:27] <jedijf> try it, nothing to lose
[15:27] <pleia2> tried it, didn't help
[15:28] <pleia2> I think part of the problem with these solutions is that they seem to make the connection more stable, not actually improving the speeds a whole lot
[15:28] <pleia2> more stable may be ok for most people, but I can't deal with 60kB-120kB speeds, I need fast wifis
[15:30] <jedijf> i just read the forum marked 'solved' but it doesn't really seem so
[15:30] <pleia2> I read about 30 forum threads
[15:31] <jedijf> that's why a know good usb adapter is always a good idea
[15:31] <jedijf> knovn
[15:31] <jedijf> known
[15:31] <pleia2> yeah
[15:31] <jedijf> every 6 months this random stuff crops up
[15:32] <pleia2> happen to know of one?
[15:34] <jedijf> pleia2: did you try to build driver?
[15:35] <jedijf> i must just get real lucky, i buy the mc cheapest off brands and they work
[15:35] <jedijf> you need n support?
[15:35] <pleia2> tried building the compat-wireless driver last night, didn't really work (couldn't match up the kernel version with the kernel in 12.04)
[15:36] <pleia2> I didn't try very hard
[15:36] <pleia2> don't need n support
[15:37] <jedijf> yeah it seems that the trendnet and zyxel work and they are the mc cheapos, so you can source them at fryes i imagine
[15:38] <pleia2> ok cool
[15:38] <jedijf> ahh, testing machine, literal....
[15:38] <pleia2> :)
[15:38] <pleia2> I'm using Unity!
[15:38] <jedijf> the kernel in 12.04, the *Ubuntu* kernel
[15:39] <pleia2> oh nooo
[15:55] <jedijf> pleia2: you know what, if fryes are as awesome as everyone says, you may be able to get a new wireless adapter for the laptop
[15:55] <jedijf> internal
[15:56] <jedijf> at ntr we used to pull the good wireless adapters and replace the shady ones
[15:57] <pleia2> hm, perhaps
[16:50] <jedijf> MutantTurkey: if you are on the list, and got the beta2 info, i think core may be of interest
[16:51] <jedijf> @later tell passtab i think core may be of interest
[16:51] <PennBot> jedijf: Command Succeeded.
[16:51] <MutantTurkey> what list...
[16:51] <jedijf> ubuntu pa ml
[16:52] <jedijf> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2012/03/29/ubuntu-12-04-lts-precise-pangolin-beta-2-released/
[16:52] <PennBot> Title: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS (Precise Pangolin) Beta 2 Released. (at fridge.ubuntu.com)
[17:08] <MutantTurkey>  A new Ubuntu kernel (3.2.0-20.33)
[17:08] <MutantTurkey> really? you did all that work by yourself?
[17:09] <MutantTurkey> just because you put a new paint job on a honda civic doesn't make it a chevy...
[17:15] <jedijf> read past the marketing stuff....jeez
[17:15] <jedijf> get to the core
[17:42] <MutantTurkey> how would that be interesting
[17:42] <MutantTurkey> I wish there was some more info
[17:42] <MutantTurkey> basically you can what custom spin images?
[17:42] <jedijf> yeah, you wnat the links
[17:42] <jedijf> ?
[17:43] <jedijf> shows how to do it
[17:43] <jedijf> or make a
[17:43] <jedijf> what's that called...f .. alzheimers
[17:43] <jedijf> kiosk
[17:43] <MutantTurkey> links please
[17:45] <jedijf> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Core  and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Core/InstallationExample
[17:45] <PennBot> Title: Core - Ubuntu Wiki (at wiki.ubuntu.com)
[17:45] <jedijf> i am gonna try to install to usb later
[17:55] <jedijf> U3 ftl
[18:50] <jedijf> 8 bit maps....but why google?
[18:53] <MutantTurkey> who cares
[18:53] <MutantTurkey> its cool
[18:53] <MutantTurkey> no?
[18:58] <waltman> no.
[18:59] <waltman> Well, OK, I guess it's cool. But it doesn't seem very usable.
[19:00] <MutantTurkey> is it supposed to be usable?
[19:02] <MutantTurkey> this was like when my friend didn't like Fresh prince because he didn't think it was serious enough. obviously that wasn't the intended style.
[19:21] <waltman> I don't know what the point of it is, to be honest
[19:22] <waltman> but then, I also don't understand why people prefer satellite view to the normal map view.