[07:55] <Kilos> morning superfly and others
[07:55] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn news?
[07:55] <nlsthzn> Good morning mr. kilos
[07:55] <Kilos> lol
[07:55] <nlsthzn> not to much ... keeping out of trouble
[07:56] <Kilos> eish
[07:56] <psydroid> good morning Kilos
[07:56] <superfly> hiya Kilos
[07:56] <Kilos> hi psydroid 
[07:56] <psydroid> hi nlsthzn
[07:56] <psydroid> hi superfly
[07:56] <superfly> hi psydroid
[07:57] <Kilos> superfly, did the monkey have any success
[07:57] <superfly> dunno
[07:57] <nlsthzn> o/ psydroid , SubOracle 
[07:57] <nlsthzn> o/ psydroid , superfly 
[07:57] <nlsthzn> >.<
[07:57] <superfly> hi nlsthzn
[07:58] <psydroid> :)
[07:59] <psydroid> Kilos, you are supposed to be able to install gnome-fallback on 12.04, so you can still run it on your computer instead of Unity
[07:59] <psydroid> that's what I saw in #ubuntu-nl yesterday at least
[07:59] <Kilos> ah that sounds good psydroid 
[08:00] <Kilos> if they can integrate debdelta then all will be good
[08:02] <psydroid> should that already be in the 12.04 betas?
[08:03] <Kilos> i dont know if they have managed to integrate it into any release yet
[08:03] <Kilos> definitely not in 11.04
[08:04] <psydroid> oh, that would be very useful especially for those places with limited bandwidth
[08:04] <Kilos> yeah it will be wonderful
[08:49] <magespawn> Morning all.
[08:49] <Kilos> himage
[08:49] <Kilos> eish
[08:49] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[08:50] <magespawn> Hi Kilos, the typing gremlins got you today?
[08:50] <Kilos> ya
[10:01] <magespawn> I am out of here sell you all later.
[10:01] <magespawn> See 
[10:02] <Kilos> later magespawn 
[10:04] <Squirm> hello
[10:19] <Kilos> hi Squirm dLimit 
[10:26] <Kilos> Maaz, hi
[10:26] <Maaz> Howzit Kilos
[10:27] <Kilos> hey nlsthzn you maintaining laddy
[10:27] <Kilos> ?
[10:28] <nlsthzn> Kilos ?
[10:35] <Kilos> what ?
[10:35] <Kilos> maintain means keeping on going
[10:47] <nlsthzn> Yes sure thanks uncle Kilos 
[10:50] <Kilos> bbl
[11:56] <sakhi> afternoon
[12:07] <kbmonkey> arvie
[12:07] <Maaz> kbmonkey: By the way, magespawn on freenode told me "tell kbmonkey there has to be some code sending the info to the logs, if you can change it so the it send it to the bot at the same time with the bots name attached then the bot should respond to that as if the person had called the bot. Just a thought." 13 hours, 30 minutes and 5 seconds ago
[12:07] <kbmonkey> Maaz, thanks
[12:07] <Maaz> kbmonkey: No problem
[13:11] <superfly> kbmonkey: try this: http://pastebin.com/UpXU1pdJ
[13:34] <magespawn> Howdy all
[14:01] <superfly> hi magespawn
[14:01] <magespawn> Hey superfly
[14:16] <ybrjkfc> Welcome to the Russian community of users of ubuntu :)
[15:02]  * superfly is not sure when ZA changed to RU
[15:04]  * magespawn thinks
[15:04] <magespawn> Pretty sure I would have noticed something
[15:31] <ybrjkfc> superfly I just came to visit. sorry for bad english,
[15:32] <Kirill_Rus> Hello., Ubunta!
[15:38] <magespawn> ybrjkfc no worries, most people here have a bit of sense of humor, and I am sure in most cases your English is better than our Russian
[15:39] <magespawn> Hi Kirill_Rus
 very good :) I wanted to know if Ubuntu is popular in their homeland?
[15:45] <confluency> It's probably the most popular Linux distribution here, but Linux in general is still very much a minority OS.
 the state is not involved in the implementation of Linux?
[15:47] <confluency> ybrjkfc: well, the government is *supposed* to be supporting OSS, but it doesn't really.
[15:48] <confluency> The government isn't directly involved in Ubuntu; it's made by Canonical, which is a private company.
[15:48] <confluency> There may be some government sponsorship; I don't know the details.
I hope you do not mind that I will publish the information received from you? In Russia a lot of fans of ubuntu, and they are very interested in what happens to her homeland :)
[15:50] <confluency> Heh.  You shouldn't quote me on this; I really don't know much about Canonical or the management side of Ubuntu. ;)
[15:50] <confluency> You should ask tumbleweed, but he's away now.
[15:51] <confluency> tumbleweed is heavily involved in Ubuntu development and packaging, so he should know a lot more.
 I will not say that this view of the company Canonical. Interestingly, exactly the view of local users. tumbleweed not coming soon?
[15:54] <confluency> ybrjkfc: he may not be coming at all today; it's Saturday.  During the week you should be able to find more people.
[15:54] <confluency> This channel isn't very active.
[15:55] <confluency> I know a lot of people, e.g. students in my lab, who use Ubuntu but aren't interested enough in Linux to join a LUG or an Ubuntu LoCo.
Now you tonight?
[15:56] <confluency> ybrjkfc: I'm not sure what you're asking.  Can you rephrase that? :)
[15:56] <ybrjkfc> I understand you. I had a member LUG
 I wanted to ask, how much time you have now?
[15:58] <confluency> ybrjkfc: I'm about to leave, I'm afraid.
  What are you afraid of?
[15:59] <confluency> Sorry, it's a figure of speech.  I said that I had to leave soon, and that I regret that this is the case.
 sorry. bye
[16:01] <confluency> No problem. :) this is tumbleweed, in case you want to contact him later: https://launchpad.net/~stefanor
[16:02] <confluency> If you lurk in here, I'm sure he will respond when he comes back.
 Thank you. I will stay in this chat, and sooner or later meet him.
[16:02] <confluency> See you later! :)
 good luck
[17:00] <magespawn> Later all
[17:17] <zeref> YaaawwnnN
[17:43] <Kilos> evening superfly and others
[17:44] <superfly> Hi Kilos
[17:44] <Kilos> hy ybrjkfc 
[17:44] <Kilos> thank heavens for tab complete
[17:44] <Kilos> even made me messup hi
 hi Kilos
[17:45] <superfly> Kilos: ybrjkfc is Russian, you better brush up on your Russian
[17:45] <Kilos> Da
[17:46] <Kilos> have you huys welcomed him superfly 
[17:46] <Kilos> guys
[17:46] <superfly> I guess you could say we have
[17:46] <Kilos> ybrjkfc, welcome to ubuntu-za
[17:46] <Kilos> oh i misread that sorry
[17:47] <Kilos> here is another one
[17:47] <Kilos> Kirill_Rus, 
[17:48] <Kilos> lo bakuman Banlam 
  you understand Russian? :)
Kirill_Rus My friend came with me
[17:49] <Kilos> ah thats nice. where abouts are you ybrjkfc ?
[17:50] <Kilos> dont say russia its a massive -place
 I live in Novosibirsk  http://af.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nowosibirsk
 Kirill_Rus   live in Samara http://af.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samara
[17:56] <Kerbero> derde grootste nogals
[17:56] <Kilos> whew
[17:57] <Kilos> hi Kerbero 
[17:57] <Kilos> ybrjkfc, what do you do there. are you still studying?
[17:57] <Kerbero> hi kilos
[17:58] <Kerbero> ybrjkfc: do you perhaps know afrikaans?
 I am a student. information security profession
[17:59] <Kilos> ah thats good
[17:59] <Kerbero> ahh
 Unfortunately not. And I know English bad.
[18:00] <Kerbero> ok
[18:00] <Kilos> what OS are you using and what irc client ybrjkfc 
[18:00] <Kerbero> Kilos:  /version ybrjkfc 
[18:00] <Kerbero> xchat, Linux
[18:00] <Kilos> just type the first 3 letters of a nick and hit tab to complete
 I hope to learn something new here about the ubuntu. in my country is a very popular system, hundreds of thousands of people use it.
[18:01] <Kilos> thats nice to hear. 
[18:01] <Kerbero> wow that is impressive
[18:04] <ybrjkfc> n Russia is now deploying Linux on gosudartvennom urovne.ya was involved in the implementation of ubuntu at colleges. Hundreds of children are studying computer science, with ubuntu :)
[18:05] <ybrjkfc> i was involved i
[18:05] <ybrjkfc> ^)
[18:06] <Kilos> thats great
[18:07] <Kilos> Maaz, seen kbmonkey 
[18:07] <Maaz> Kilos: kbmonkey was last seen 5 hours, 59 minutes and 18 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2012-03-31 05:07:59 PDT], and has been online on freenode since 2012-03-25 14:57:25 PDT
[18:15] <Kilos> gosudartvennom what does that mean ybrjkfc 
[18:16] <Kilos> hi drussell 
[18:18] <Kilos> old maaz cant translate that
[18:19] <drussell> Kilos: heya, how's things?
[18:19] <Kilos> good ty drussell and you?
[18:20] <drussell> Kilos: good thanks, enjoying a nice weekend :o)
[18:20] <Kilos> ah
 This means at the state level
[18:24] <Kilos> oh ty
[18:32] <Kilos> ybrjkfc, Kirill_Rus is you have problems with ubuntu, state your problem here and be patient waiting for a reply. most of the guys are very busy
[18:32] <Kilos> *if
[18:34] <inetpro> Kilos: come, switch off those lights now!
[18:35] <Kilos> haha hiya inetpro 
[18:35] <Kerbero> o
[18:35] <inetpro> don't you read the news?
[18:35] <Kerbero> is it earth hour NOW?
[18:35] <inetpro> yup
[18:35] <Kilos> i suppose your pc is running on candle power
[18:35] <Kerbero> 20:30-21:30?
[18:37] <Kilos> no one answers
[18:38] <Kilos> lights off not pc off
[18:38] <Kerbero> hehe
[18:38] <Kerbero> my irc bouncer runs on a server
[18:38] <Kerbero> so pc can be off
[18:39] <Kerbero> and i can irc with my phone
[18:39] <Kilos> oh , i use jedirc on the fone but its a mission
[18:40] <Kerbero> i use xchat on my phone
[18:40] <Kerbero> linux phone
[18:40] <Kilos> lekker
[18:42] <inetpro> hmm...
[18:43]  * inetpro just got the following in an email
[18:43] <inetpro> 7H15 M3554G3 53RV35 7O PR0V3 H0W 0UR M1ND5 C4N D0 4M4Z1NG 7H1NG5! 1MPR3551V3 7H1NG5! 1N 7H3 B3G1NN1NG 17 WA5 H4RD BU7 N0W, 0N 7H15 LIN3 Y0UR M1ND 1S R34D1NG 17 4U70M471C4LLY W17H0U7 3V3N 7H1NK1NG 4B0U7 17. B3 PROUD! 0NLY C3R741N P30PL3 C4N R3AD 7H15. PL3453 F0RW4RD 1F U C4N R34D 7H15.
[18:43] <Kilos> lol
[18:43] <inetpro> always interesting but I hate the last part
[18:44] <Tonberry> l33tsp3@k?
[18:44] <Tonberry> EX-TER-MI-NATE!!!!
[18:44] <Kilos> yeah especially when they you will win whatever if you dont break the link
[18:44] <Kilos> haha Tonberry 
[18:44] <inetpro> those messages tend to die a silent death when they reach my inbox
[18:49] <inetpro> superfly: are you still using Kopete?
[18:49] <Kilos> ya
[18:49] <inetpro> Kilos?
[18:50] <Kilos> them messages dont ever get forawarded
[18:56] <inetpro> superfly: it looks like Kopete is likely to die soon and will be replaced with KDE Telepathy in a few months time
[18:57] <inetpro> I think they just voted to keep it in the new release for the last time
[18:58] <inetpro> and that just because it is an LTS release
[18:59] <superfly> inetpro: yes, I'm still using Kopete
[19:00] <inetpro> superfly: be ready for the change-over in the next release
[19:01] <superfly> Kerbero: N900?
[19:02] <superfly> inetpro: *shrug* as long as it doesn't suck, and it works with my colour scheme, I'm happy
[19:03] <inetpro> superfly: well KTP will have to catch up very quickly
[19:03] <inetpro> it doesn't have as many features as kopete
[19:03] <superfly> I see I have something of the sort, but I can't get it to auth one of my jabber accounts
[19:03] <inetpro> sadly Kopete is no longer maintained as much these days
[19:11] <superfly> inetpro: hrm, it does look like KDE Telepathy has a long way to go
[19:13] <inetpro> I'm not sure why nobody is willing to get their hands dirty and just fix kopete bugs
[19:15] <inetpro> but I guess it always seems easier to start a fresh project
[19:18] <Kilos> inetpro, you gave up pidgin?
[19:18] <inetpro> Kilos: no I still use it
[19:18] <Kilos> is it also getting worse in later releases
[19:18] <inetpro> but I've always liked Kopete as well
[19:18] <superfly> Kilos: I dunno about inetpro, but I've been trying to move to a KDE-only desktop... as few non-KDE programs as possible
[19:19] <superfly> Kopete also has fewer problems than Pidgin, in my experience
[19:19] <Kilos> ah superfly but what do you do when things start going backwards
[19:20] <inetpro> I started using pidgin only because of friends stuck on Windows
[19:20] <Kilos> what probs you had in pidgin?
[19:20] <superfly> Kilos: most of the time the main apps will continue to be packaged for a while
[19:20] <inetpro> was easier for me to support them 
[19:20] <inetpro> and the same with Thunderbird
[19:21] <superfly> Kilos: Sound doesn't always work on non-Gnome desktops, if you are not connected to a network, and then you connect, Pidgin can't find the network
[19:21] <superfly> stupidly small, but very irritating stuff
[19:21] <superfly> Kopete doesn't have those issues because it's a KDE program
[19:21] <Kilos> ah
[19:21] <Kilos> i member with mxit i had to first get it on a fone
[19:22] <Kilos> but the msn and aim and xmpp's have been good
[19:23] <Kilos> and the otr is first class
[19:34] <Kilos> night guys. sleep tight
[19:35] <superfly> night Kilos
[21:57] <Kerbero> superfly: yes @ n900
[21:58] <superfly> Kerbero: ah, I have an N900 too
[21:58] <Kerbero> ja i know
[21:58]  * superfly uses Quassel and Quassel2Go
[21:58] <Kerbero> ok
[21:58] <Kerbero> i tried a few
[21:59] <Kerbero> and in the end i went back to xchat
[21:59] <Kerbero> too used to it by now
[21:59] <Kerbero> do you know how good nitdroid is these days?
[22:00] <superfly> no. what's nitdroid?
[22:00] <Kerbero> android for n900
[22:00] <superfly> ah
[22:00] <Kerbero> 1 april
[22:01] <superfly> let the jokes begin?
[22:01] <Kerbero> from now on don't beleive anything
[22:01] <superfly> haha
[22:01] <Kerbero> nitdroid was said before 12
[22:01] <Kerbero> so that is still safe
[22:01] <superfly> :-)
[22:01] <Banlam> 12 in what timezone...
[22:01] <Kerbero> ours
[22:02] <Kerbero> sast
[22:03] <bakuman> i believe him of course
[22:17] <Tonberry> catblock!
[22:17] <Tonberry> @ the jokes beginning
[22:18] <Tonberry> adblock on chrome just got amusing