[02:33] <vibhav> Good Morning!
[02:37] <bregma> good evening!
[13:49] <jtaylor> does changing to compat 9 and adding hardening flags need a ffe?
[14:53] <vibhav> put live.ubuntu.iso
[14:53] <vibhav> oops :)
[15:23] <PaoloRotolo> Hi all!
[16:56] <kees> jtaylor: which package?
[16:56] <jtaylor> gimmix
[17:09] <astraljava> Hi gang, I got a request for updating abiword's translations, as there appears to be updates for them since the current snapshot from sources that we have in precise. I'm new to updating translations, so what would be the process to follow in such cases? And is it right that the translations freeze isn't on, yet? (according to the release schedule, or am I reading it wrong?)
[17:09] <astraljava> Well, _I_ didn't get the request, but rather Xubuntu Team did.
[17:40] <jbicha_> astraljava: we're in sync with Debian's abiword, so you probably should contact the Debian maintainer about that
[17:43] <jbicha_> oh I guess we're not going to be in complete sync with Debian since their latest packaging has made the libpng15 transition
[17:56] <astraljava> jbicha_: Ok, so does that mean I should in fact just update the translations without Debian maintainer's consent? I'm not exactly sure how maintainable that would be, but I'd also want more complete translations into precise, as it's an LTS release after all.
[18:02] <jbicha_> astraljava: my opinion is that Debian should pull the latest translations, we in Ubuntu can then sync from Debian but we need to replace the libpng-dev build-depend with libpng12-dev
[18:09] <astraljava> jbicha_: Ok. What are your thoughts about doing that this late in the cycle?
[18:18] <jbicha_> astraljava: ideally we wouldn't be using git snapshots for an LTS, translations & bugfixes are good, but major code changes won't be
[18:22] <astraljava> jbicha_: That's my understanding, too. So updating the translations would be creating a debdiff on po/ directory from the sources? Or what would be the right way to do it?
[18:24] <jbicha_> astraljava: yes that sounds fine, or you could ask the Debian maintainer if a newer git snapshot would be safe too
[18:25] <astraljava> jbicha_: Ok, I'll go email the maintainer first. Thanks for your help!
[22:06] <mfisch> hey masters, what's the typical ETA on a dput?  It's been over 7 hours and I have no email not a published package
[22:06] <mfisch> I expect at least a "fail" email
[22:07] <ajmitch> dput to where?
[22:08] <mfisch> sorry, dput to a personal PPA
[22:09] <ajmitch> you'll want to check with #launchpad then
[22:09] <mfisch> ajmitch: got it, thanks
[22:09] <ajmitch> it ought to be a matter of minutes
[22:10] <mfisch> ajmitch: it certainly is for my day job
[23:15] <mfisch> so apparently LP won't accept my unsigned packages
[23:15] <mfisch> is there a way to sign a package as myself even though I'm not in the changelog?
[23:16] <psusi> why aren't you in the changelog?
[23:16] <mfisch> psusi: just doing a favor for jono, helping him package something, and I want to try it from my ppa first
[23:16] <mfisch> psusi: if it's required, I'll add myself
[23:17] <psusi> I think it is required, so yea, just add an entry for yourself
[23:17] <mfisch> psusi: I hope that's not considered stealing credit, that's what I was trying to avoid
[23:18] <psusi> depends on what the entry says... you can just say you are uploading it to your ppa
[23:18] <mfisch> psusi: then I'll leave it as-is in bzr
[23:19] <mfisch> psusi: thanks
[23:29] <ajmitch> mfisch: you can pass the key id you want to sign with to debuild (or bzr-buildpackage)