[01:09] <SH|TTY_MONKEY> nig
[04:53] <oldspice> hey when will i be unbanned its been like a month i need #ubuntu very bad
[04:54] <bazhang> oldspice, it's not been that long
[04:54] <elky> oldspice, askubuntu.com
[04:54] <elky> You're welcome.
[04:55] <oldspice> i must have #ubuntu i have got 0 done since i been banned
[04:55] <oldspice> when will i get there
[04:56] <elky> Perhaps when you're willing to accept the consequences of your actions.
[04:57] <oldspice> well you see ive done nothing wrong but talk tech for shure why cant you see that?
[05:02] <elky> See, that's not accepting the consequences.
[05:02] <oldspice> #ubuntu is the best channel on irc and i did nothing to be banned from #ubuntu for shure u need to give me an explination and i will talk to the courts about this
[05:02] <elky> Oddly, had you accepted from the start, rather than blaming the bogeyman, you'd have been let back in well before now.
[05:03] <oldspice> i take my irc serious ly
[05:03] <oldspice> accepted what exactly
[05:03] <oldspice> ?????
[05:05] <oldspice> i should be #ubuntu op above all of you i can see that now for shure
[05:05] <bazhang> oldspice, your ban in #ubuntu will not be removed at this time
[05:05] <oldspice> when will it be
[05:06] <bazhang> oldspice, there's no fixed time period for that
[05:07] <oldspice> im worthless until then and i assure you i will not stop till u see i was cheated u have no idea the extreme i will go to to prove my bieng cheated
[05:07] <oldspice> u wont get away with this
[05:07] <bazhang> oldspice, well, first step would not to blame others, or talk about going to the courts, but to accept that you were banned for specific reasons
[05:08] <oldspice> u wont even tell me why
[05:08] <elky> You know why, orionofneptune.
[05:08] <bazhang> oldspice, let me check the logs. this is orion, correct?
[05:09] <oldspice> no its not me and dont make me explian why unless you involved in this mess
[05:09] <bazhang> oldspice, what was your previous nickname or nicknames
[05:10] <oldspice> jap4u
[05:10] <oldspice> thats all i can think of but thier are more
[05:10] <bazhang> oldspice, if you wont enter into a serious discussion here, you cannot be trusted to act seriously in #ubuntu
[05:11] <oldspice> this is serious i will take you all to the courthouse over this seemingly trivial issue
[05:11] <oldspice> \its my id
[05:12] <oldspice> i am victum
[05:12] <oldspice> and u will see that
[05:12] <bazhang> so it's orion
[05:12] <oldspice> nomatter how long it takes
[05:12] <oldspice> i am not that person
[05:13] <bazhang> oldspice, ok, well that person is how you got banned.
[05:13] <oldspice> i know and they use this ip
[05:13] <elky> amazing how many people use the same internet connection who don't know each other, but talk and act exactly the same, and make exactly the same kinds of threats.
[05:14] <oldspice> ohh so you think a id thief cant mimic you deminer huh
[05:14] <oldspice> lol
[05:14] <elky> bazhang, yep, definitely orion.
[05:15] <bazhang> elky, thought so. also "wasteoftime"
[05:15] <oldspice> keep it up u will be in court with the others im in court with now
[05:15] <oldspice> over id theft
[05:15] <bazhang> oldspice, orion, wasteoftime, there's nothing further to discuss here
[05:15] <oldspice> oh yes thier is
[05:16] <elky> oldspice, so, you're the one who stole orion's id? Well feel free to tell the court that. I'll get the popcorn.
[05:16] <oldspice> u will hear from me everyday for the rest of your life till i die or u see ive been cheated i will assure u
[05:17] <oldspice> no food allowed in court son
[05:17] <bazhang> oldspice, until that day, please use askubuntu.com
[05:17] <oldspice> u asked for it remember that
[05:18] <elky> Well, I'll make sure to bring these logs of you threatening us to the hearing.
[05:18] <oldspice> so will i
[05:18] <oldspice> lol
[05:18] <oldspice> child
[05:18] <oldspice> u are playing a grown up game now
[05:18] <elky> Yep, i'm a widdle kiddy. I have no mens rea and hence cannot be convicted.
[05:19] <oldspice> lol
[05:19] <oldspice> hahahaha
[05:19] <oldspice> justice will be served
[05:19] <bazhang> oldspice, please exit the channel now
[05:20] <oldspice> no way u need to learn how to be op for shure
[05:21] <elky> I especially like the bit where he threatens to harass us in a logged channel where freenode staff can see to add to his dossier.
[05:24] <bazhang> not particularly well thought out
[05:44] <bazhang> @mark #ubuntu ubuxubu giving nonsense advice
[05:54] <bazhang> now he's claiming in PM that Dell support told him that
[05:56] <bazhang> oh lovely, this is balsaq . some history in the BT, I see
[08:01] <hiexpo> hola ikonia you up ?
[08:14] <bodi> pangolin, why did you ban me for telling a newb to use google and than give him the link to a ubuntu support thread > that was not fair
[08:26] <bodi> ping ikonia & pangolin
[08:33] <hiexpo> ping ikonia & pangolin
[08:39] <hiexpo> ok I have try'd to resolve this and cannot get support > I was banned yet again for telling one to google but than gave hime a link to ubuntu thread is that so wrong ?
[08:40] <hiexpo> I sell 2 or 3 laptops a month with ubuntu that I installed on it > if I can not get support I am forced to use mint
[08:41] <Myrtti> if #ubuntu has been your only source of support, you're in deep waters
[08:42] <Myrtti> I'll have a look at the situation, brb
[08:42] <hiexpo> Myrtti, thanks it was cause i told a newb to google it
[08:48] <Myrtti> looking at the bantracker doesn't make me happy enough to remove the ban
[08:48] <hiexpo> Myrtti, so what did i do that was not right?
[08:52] <hiexpo> Myrtti, so what is the issue > I don't understand other than idleone saying i should know better than telling people to google it
[08:54] <hiexpo> ok never mind  will use another distro
[08:55] <Myrtti> ok, take care and good luck
[08:56] <Myrtti> if you don't have patience enough to wait for me to find the most suitable and fitting ways to express the problem in a way that is understandable, then I can't really help you. If you see no problem in telling people to google it, then I can't help you either.
[08:57] <Myrtti> if someone else feels more inclined to have a look at this issue, feel free.
[09:03] <hiexpo> Myrtti, i tell them to google it because it has already been resolved
[09:03] <hiexpo> and point them tothe thread
[09:06] <hiexpo> and the thread is always a ubuntu one
[09:06] <Tm_T> hiexpo: people don't come to our support channels to be told "google it", but get help
[09:07] <Tm_T> "figure it out yourself" (telling to google it is that) isn't help
[09:07] <hiexpo> Tm_T, i agree thats why i point the thread link
[09:08] <hiexpo> google alone is not help
[09:08] <Tm_T> then why you insist with telling people to google? no, this is not debatable, it's not what you do in our channels
[09:08] <Tm_T> and if you don't accept it, there's no point continue the conversation
[09:09] <Myrtti> "have you noticed that the problem seems to have been solved in this thread? I found it in google"
[09:10] <elky> hiexpo, askubuntu.com is available to you still
[09:10] <hiexpo> Tm_T, i accept that telling people to google is wrong
[09:11] <elky> do you understand why it's wrong, hiexpo?
[09:12] <hiexpo> yes cause it is still looking not answering the problem
[09:12] <elky> Would you agree that it's also rude?
[09:12] <hiexpo> google is just a search engine
[09:12] <hiexpo> ok yes
[09:14] <hiexpo> ok I will never reference to google again
[09:14] <Tm_T> that's not what we ask, though
[09:14] <hiexpo> but is it ok forme to ref to ubuntu threads
[09:15] <Myrtti> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/SupportersGuide
[09:16] <hiexpo> well i agree to send a person to google that is telling them go some where else
[09:17] <hiexpo> so now i better understand > andi amsorry never meant it that way > just meant it in a way as look
[09:18] <hiexpo> but now i know many are blind
[09:19] <hiexpo> and can'tlook
[09:19] <elky> whaaaa?
[09:20] <elky> I don't even...
[09:20] <hiexpo> i see read the guide
[09:21] <hiexpo> i don't mind following the rules > sorry
[09:23] <hiexpo> elky, what youmean ?
[09:26] <elky> "many are blind and can't look"
[09:27] <elky> a. they can "look" with screenreaders. b. not everyone is good at googling, that's why "just google it" is rude.
[09:30] <hiexpo> ok
[09:31] <hiexpo>  ok anyways I  am sorry for acting inappropriate andtelling people togoogle
[09:31] <hiexpo> spacebarbites here
[09:31] <hiexpo> :(   :)
[10:02] <hiexpo> ok so anyways > I see I am not gonna be allowed back in ubuntu so bye ubuntu  > hello Mint I guess
[10:16] <hiexpo> i understand that but answer me if no > means no thats fine
[10:45] <LjL> Myrtti: err, philinux gave useful information and links as far as i can see, he just said to google a relevant thing when he was out of information to give...?
[10:45] <Myrtti> great, then you both can have cookies
[10:46] <LjL> oh seriously
[10:46] <LjL> the atmosphere here has gotten ridiculous
[10:47] <Myrtti> let me wade through my backlog
[10:48] <Myrtti> and you were right, thanks for pointing that out, did you enjoy your cookie, I have more?
[10:49] <LjL> sarcasm cookies are sour
[10:50] <Myrtti> oops, must have put too much buttermilk in them then
[10:51] <hiexpo> hehe
[11:07] <pangolin> hiexpo, you got banned for calling the person you told to google it a dorknob, this was after you were asking them cryptic questions about what graphics card they have, when you could tell they didn't know how to provide that information you didn't give them the command, you instead asked them to read your question and ask them who made the card.
[11:07] <pangolin> so. NO you will not be unbanned and good luck with Mint.
[11:07] <pangolin> Now please leave this channel.
[11:19] <pangolin> hiexpo, anything else I can clarify for you?
[11:20] <hiexpo> look pangolin i was not trying to be rude
[11:20] <hiexpo> i was trying to point him in the right direction
[11:20] <pangolin> you may not have been trying to be rude but you were rude, unhelpful, and generally acting like an ass. This behaviour has been going on and off since 2010. We have had enough.
[11:21] <pangolin> take a six month break. see you then
[11:23] <pangolin> You know about the no idle policy we have for this channel. Please part now.
[11:24] <hiexpo> why are you so hard on me all i try todo is help in that channel and I know what I am doing > and I apologize > I will no longer suggest google
[11:25] <hiexpo> and I apoligize to youfir being an ass
[11:25] <pangolin> hiexpo, I am hard on you because I know how good you are at helping and I also know how much you are able to help in #ubuntu. it upsets me to see you act like a jerk towards new users. You know the guidelines well and you know better than to not follow them.
[11:26] <pangolin> Now you are banned for 6 months.
[11:26] <pangolin> btw every time we catch you ban evading I will add 2 months.
[11:27] <pangolin> so I really think you just need to take a break and go help out some other project in the mean time
[11:27] <hiexpo> > ok so give me 1 more break if I screw up ban me for 2 years
[11:27] <pangolin> no. we tried that already.
[11:27] <pangolin> my decision is final. I am not changing my mind now.
[11:27] <pangolin> !appeals
[11:28] <hiexpo> ok
[16:18] <LjL> @mark #ubuntu berni Spams a site he wants people to "vote" on
[19:10] <uncle111_> dear respected ikonia sir ... i was just telling my problem there and sorry for my poor english ! i ll try to improve that . please allow me !
[19:10] <ikonia> uncle111_: hi
[19:10] <uncle111_> yeah .. hiii :)
[19:10] <ikonia> uncle111_: #ubuntu does not support backtrack linux, that is why #backtrack-linux is a support channel
[19:11] <uncle111_> okay ! and m trying to add user ! :-|
[19:11] <ikonia> uncle111_: backtrack-linux expects a certain level of linux experience, it's an advanced linux users tool
[19:11] <ikonia> uncle111_: if you can't do basics like add a linux user, so you can get access to the backtrack-linux support channel, then backtrack-linux is probably too advanced for you
[19:12] <ikonia> uncle111_: that said #ubuntu does still not support backtrack-linux, so I suggest you either a.) go and learn about backtrack-linux or b.) choose another distro
[19:12] <uncle111_> yeah .. i shd believe that .. but i want to learn things .. i dont know where to start ..
[19:12] <uncle111_> i have been a minig engg student for 4 years
[19:12] <ikonia> uncle111_: then backtrack-linux is too advanced for you
[19:12] <uncle111_> finally i left mining .. it screws me !
[19:13] <ikonia> uncle111_: ok, well now that you've had that explained to you I wish you good luck,
[19:13] <uncle111_> i can spend time in front of comp .. but cant do mining !
[19:13] <ikonia> goob bye
[19:13] <ikonia> "good"
[19:13] <uncle111_> thanks !
[19:14] <uncle111_> and m not into this by force  .. it a prolonged choice ...! that resisted mining for continuously for 4 years .. :P
[19:15] <ikonia> uncle111_: we are not a chat channel or a support channel.
[19:15] <uncle111_> whoops!
[19:15] <ikonia> I've explained what #ubuntu is for and that it is not for backtrack linux help, so please leave this channel now, and good luck with backtrack
[19:15] <uncle111_> okay thanks for everything on mah first day on irc !
[19:16] <ikonia> no problem
[19:16] <uncle111_> backtrack gnome is built on ubuntu .. what does it mean ? if my ques is genuine .. i expect an answer !
[19:16] <ikonia> I've just told you, you will not get an answer
[19:16] <uncle111_> okay!
[19:46] <mcloy> ikonia,  doesnot deserves to be an op
[19:46] <ikonia> mcloy: you've been forwarded to #ubuntu-ops and banned from the channels you where cross-posting in
[19:46] <ikonia> mcloy: did I or did I not warn you approx 5 minutes ago not to cross-post and explain what cross-posting was ?
[19:47] <mcloy> i was done with  you. and i can move to another channel
[19:47] <mcloy> and crossposting is not disallowed by freenode
[19:47] <ikonia> mcloy: did I or did I not ask you not to cross-post and explain what cross-posting was ?
[19:47] <ikonia> mcloy: it is by ubuntu
[19:47] <mcloy> and crossposting is not disallowed by freenode
[19:47] <ikonia> as I explained to you
[19:47] <ikonia> yes, but you are using Ubuntu's channels and it is the ubuntu rules
[19:47] <mcloy> i didnt corssposted in ubuntu channel
[19:48] <ikonia> mcloy: really, so you didn't post #ubuntu #ubuntu-server and #kubuntu ?
[19:48] <mcloy> i dont have to talk to you.
[19:48] <ikonia> mcloy: you do if you wish to get your ban removed and resolved
[19:48] <mcloy> ban me there too
[19:48] <ikonia> you are banned
[19:48] <mcloy> thats the max power you have
[19:48] <ikonia> mcloy but I dont' want it to stay that way
[19:48] <ikonia> mcloy: do you wish to resolve this yes/no ?
[19:48] <mcloy> no
[19:48] <ikonia> ok, then please leave the channel
[19:48] <mcloy> ill stay in trouble for the next week
[19:49] <mcloy> ill be more happy
[19:49] <ikonia> it won't just "go away" after a week
[19:49] <mcloy> ban me. iam not leaving
[19:49] <ikonia> it will stay until you decide to resolve the ban with us
[19:49] <mcloy> a month
[19:49] <mcloy> a year
[19:49] <mcloy> fine