[00:00] <Random832> is there an app that will play last.fm and pop up notifications with the song titles?
[00:02] <pycoderf> can lubuntu be used for ltsp or just the normal ubuntu?
[00:03] <zykotick9> pycoderf: if you are talking "server" then lubuntu & ubuntu should be the same.
[00:03] <pycoderf> zykotick9: so just do a normal install and go from there? there appears to be no ltsp server installmode for it
[00:04] <zykotick9> pycoderf: check "tasksel"
[00:04] <pycoderf> tasksel?
[00:05] <zykotick9> pycoderf: did you figure tasksel out?  ("sudo tasksel")
[00:05] <pycoderf> oh i dont have the install just yet doing that now
[00:07] <icehawk> hello all
[00:08] <bitplane-> Hi all, I'm thinking about doing some service discovery app that finds machines on a lan. anyone have any ideas other than resorting to brute-force with nmap?
[00:08] <icehawk> anyone know anything about aircrack
[00:09] <pycoderf> bitplane-: what is the discovery for? ip use or something else
[00:09] <psycho_oreos> icehawk, they have their channel support in #aircrack-ng
[00:09] <gnosisu1> ls
[00:09] <bitplane-> pycoderf: I'd like to draw a pretty network map and be able to zoom into machines etc
[00:09] <icehawk> oks was on youtube and helped but got lost int he steps thanks
[00:09] <pycoderf> bitplane-: i am assuming you want free?
[00:09] <wolfank> hello does anyone know what shell in linux that does not allow aliases to commands?
[00:10] <bitplane-> yeah I want to make an app using quickly, figured this would be a nice python app to write
[00:10] <psycho_oreos> icehawk, ideally there is help in #aircrack-ng for that related sort of task :)
[00:10] <bitplane-> I'll host it on launchpad
[00:10] <icehawk> also was woundering if ubuntu has a password protection service
[00:10] <wolfank> Is it correct to say that tcsh shell does not allow aliases to commands?
[00:11] <bitplane-> Windows can list available workgroups, I'm guessing by doing some sort of UDP broadcast and listen for responses
[00:11] <bitplane-> then my mac can find my Ubuntu machine based on VNC server, so I guess there's some kind of broadcast going on there
[00:11] <psycho_oreos> bitplane-, that's a specific sort of service scan, they scan using smb/nmb services
[00:12] <bitplane-> also, Empathy has the option to chat with people who are on the same lan
[00:12] <bitplane-> then of course there's pinging the broadcast address of the lan
[00:12] <bitplane-> so I'd like a list of potential ways to do machine and service discovery, then design a framework around this with callbacks to add hosts
[00:13] <wolfank> hello is it ok to ask about shells here?
[00:13] <bitplane-> wolfank: sure, ask away
[00:13] <icehawk> was thinking something like nortons indentity safe but with ubuntu
[00:13] <itaylor57> wolfank, the bourne shell noes not support aliases, but sh in ubuntu is dash
[00:13] <wolfank> oh well yeah i was just wondering if what shell does not allow aliases to commands?
[00:14] <wolfank> @bitplane
[00:14] <wolfank> oh
[00:14] <wolfank> thx
[00:14] <gnosisu1> irc.freenode.net
[00:14] <gnosisu1> sorry hah..
[00:14] <zth> is there a shortcut to scroll between keyboard-layouts?
[00:16] <icehawk> nothing huh
[00:16] <icehawk> well...cya
[00:17] <elijah> When I am in a working directory and run "rm -rf *" it deletes almost all the files but not the hidden ones. How do I remove the hidden files as well?
[00:18] <psycho_oreos> elijah, rm -rf ./.*
[00:18] <itaylor57> elijah, .*
[00:22] <zykotick9> itaylor57: +1 (even though you'll get an error because of . and .. ;)
[00:23] <elijah> itaylor57 & psycho_oreos: Thanks, I ran "rm -rf .* *" and it removes everything from the directory!!!
[00:23] <hmw> I accidentally deleted a file of a collection, I downloaded with Transmission. Can I trigger it to re-download that particular file? I started transmission again, but it appears to do nothing.
[00:27] <GiraffeHunter94> You need transmission to re-scan your download to realize that it's missing a file
[00:27] <GiraffeHunter94> pausing the download and restarting it I think should help
[00:27] <fwl3ls> ha
[00:28] <funnyhaha> im trying to put something into terminal and i am doing something wrong   cd'/usr/lib/john'  what am i doing wrong
[00:28] <zykotick9> funnyhaha: "cd /usr/lib/john"
[00:28] <icehawk> is backtrack 5 a compleastly diffrrent operating system then linux^
[00:28] <icehawk> @
[00:29] <smg60231> Hello again... I have yet another question. When I ran my old Linux server I had to run a program called 'No-IP DUC' by navigating to the directory and entering 'sudo make install'. However, now in 10.11 I get an error saying "sudo: make: command not found", any suggestions?
[00:29] <funnyhaha> o i feel dumb
[00:29] <funnyhaha> thanks
[00:29] <dlentz> !backtrack | icehawk
[00:29] <sergio> hello everyone
[00:30] <dlentz> hi
[00:30] <sergio> i need your help
[00:30] <icehawk> fair enough
[00:30] <arooni-mobile> hi folks;  having trouble connecting to a openvpn server i've set up previously.  i need to get this working in 20 minutes.. the ncaa finals are on and im location blocked watching from colombia!@
[00:30] <zykotick9> smg60231: install build-essential
[00:30] <wolfank> helo
[00:30] <Guest95417> can one help me with this question please how can i install adobe flash on ubuntu
[00:30] <dlentz> icehawk, but no, it's not a completely different OS
[00:31] <smg60231> zykotick9: "install: missing destination file operand after 'build-essential'"
[00:31] <dlentz> Guest95417, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[00:31] <dlentz> or use flashaid firefox add-on
[00:31] <icehawk> last question...I was trying to connect to a wireless printer via wifi connection but could not. I have the downloads from ubuntu software center for discorvering the connections but just nned to know how it works
[00:31] <wolfank> each time the shell starts a child process, does it issue kernel call called SYSTEM CALL that starts a child process
[00:32] <wolfank> ??
[00:32] <zykotick9> smg60231: it would be "sudo apt-get install build-essential" i believe
[00:33] <smg60231> zykotick9: ooooh, I thought "install build-essential" was the command, LOL. Thank you xD
[00:33] <zykotick9> smg60231: build-essential is a fairly low-level metapackage for stuff required to compile
[00:33] <dlentz> wolfank, that took me back to my compsci days :P
[00:33] <wolfank> yeah do u remember?
[00:33] <smg60231> zykotick9: I see, install now. Thank you xD
[00:33] <wolfank> hope you do
[00:34] <wolfank> @dlientz
[00:34] <fas3r> Hello
[00:34] <dlentz> wolfank, that's what wikip[eduia is for :P https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_process
[00:34] <icehawk> last question...I was trying to connect to a wireless printer via wifi connection but could not. I have the downloads from ubuntu software center for discovering the connections but just ned to know how it works
[00:35] <fas3r> i have a ASUS 1015BX, i try to make zorks VAAPI on it. 720p works fine but i 1080p are a bit slow, any tips to give me (i use VLC) ??
[00:36] <icehawk> hmm sounds like a youtube mission
[00:37] <Guest95417> is there other way dlents
[00:38] <smg60231> zykotick9: Thank you thank you! My beloved 'sudo make install' command works now xDD
[00:38] <icehawk> hmmmm...youtube says it depends on the driver of the printer
[00:38] <Guest95417> i dont like it to use sudo
[00:39] <zykotick9> smg60231: if you're doing ./configure && make && make install -- are you aware of checkinstall?  if not, see "/msg ubottu checkinstall" makes DEBs out of sourcecode - super handy.
[00:40] <smg60231> zykotick9: nah, all I had to do was enter 'sudo make install' and noip DUC begins to run... no configuring anything owo
[00:40] <Guest95417> can some one help me how to install Adobe flash?
[00:41] <smg60231> zykotick9: as if I knew how, but if the occassion ever arises, I will have that written down so I know what to do :D ty ^^
[00:41] <dlentz> Guest95417, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[00:41] <icehawk> carefull with adobe flash i have meesed up once and had to reinstall everything
[00:41] <zykotick9> smg60231: glad to help
[00:41] <dlentz> oh, without using sudo?
[00:41] <wolfank> is there such thing as a process environment which the shell starts separately to execute programs???
[00:42] <dlentz> wolfank, is this homework?
[00:42] <zykotick9> wolfank: homework?
[00:42] <wolfank> I mean is there such thing as literally "Process environment"
[00:42] <wolfank> kinda
[00:42] <icehawk> yah I just downloaded the restricted files in software center and all was good..
[00:42] <wolfank> LOL are you guys psychics?
[00:42] <zykotick9> dlentz: ;) great minds, and fools seldom differ
[00:42] <wolfank> you guys are awesome like apple GENUISES!?
[00:42] <wolfank> LOL
[00:43] <wolfank> so yeah is there such a thing called "process environment" that shell starts?
[00:43] <fas3r> i have a ASUS 1015BX, i try to make zorks VAAPI on it. 720p works fine but i 1080p are a bit slow, any tips to give me (i use VLC) ??
[00:43] <icehawk> Im still lerning sud commands..lol
[00:43] <icehawk> ops
[00:43] <icehawk> i ment sudo
[00:44] <dlentz> Guest95417, you can download the flash .tar.gz and put the libflashplayer.so file in ~/.mozilla/plugins (no sudo required there)
[00:44] <wolfank> sorry i can't find specific site for shell environments
[00:44] <zykotick9> wolfank: your homework questions are offtopic here, they aren't ubuntu support questions.  you could try #ubuntu-offtopic or ##linux perhaps?
[00:44] <dlentz> but make sure all previous gflash is purged/removed
[00:44] <wolfank> oh okay
[00:45] <wolfank> thanks i thought this was kinda like that
[00:45] <wolfank> ok
[00:45] <dlentz> LOL, kids...
[00:45] <pehden> http://pastebin.com/bT2mKYcp
[00:45] <icehawk> ohh . I was watching on youtube that someone configed their fire wall using ip adress minus the last 3 numbers in ip adress adding  0/24 is that correct
[00:47] <dlentz> pehden, does /lib/libncurses.so.5 exist?
[00:48] <dlentz> foxconnartist, i like the name :P
[00:48] <icehawk> exsample 111.11.11.1 would be 111.11.11.0/24tcp
[00:49] <pehden> dlentz it symlinks to libtermcap.so
[00:49] <smg60231_> hi
[00:49] <icehawk> :-S
[00:49] <zacarias> How do you when the compurter freezes and you don't want to force restart?
[00:50] <icehawk> ummm..hope you have a boot disc Ubravo
[00:50] <pehden> dlentz its there
[00:50] <smg60231_> Back... again. Sorry to bother you all but yesterday I came in with a problem that no one could connect to my server outside of LAN. I was recommended to make a clean reinstallation and now... people still can not connect to my server, UDP port 9987 . Any suggestions? People were all of a sudden unable to connect two days ago
[00:51] <smg60231_> The port is forward, etc etc
[00:51] <soreau> zacarias: Depends on what actually happened. If it's a hard lock or kernel panic, a reboot may be the only option
[00:51] <icehawk> check your firewall. could be you have not installed ubuntu cloud or registerd. could be you do not have softwarre that matches the servers you are connecting could be to many thing
[00:52] <icehawk> s
[00:52] <dlentz> pehden, maybe look at: sudo ldconfig -v | grep curses
[00:52] <craigbass1976> where is epiphany-browser data stored?  I cant find it anywhere in ~/ looking for epiphany
[00:53] <dlentz> craigbass1976, did you check ~/.config ?
[00:53] <craigbass1976> dlentz, I did, but don't see epiphany there.
[00:53] <smg60231_> icehawk: Check the Ubuntu firewall? Isn't it off by default? Also, I am not quite sure how to check ubuntu firewall... and I did not install cloud owo
[00:54] <pehden> http://pastebin.com/ySbi6zgb
[00:54] <pehden> dlentz http://pastebin.com/ySbi6zgb
[00:54] <icehawk> no most people download a firewall program from software center is a safty procaution
[00:54] <dlentz> craigbass1976, are you looking for configuration file
[00:55] <craigbass1976> dlentz, browser history.  I don't see a way to find it from within epiphany, and I can't remember the site I was on the other day
[00:55] <warm> join #vim
[00:55] <craigbass1976> dlentz, I'm on 12.04, but I thought I'd ask in here in case it hasn't changed much since 11.10.
[00:55] <warm> #join #vim
[00:55] <craigbass1976> warm, /join
[00:56] <craigbass1976> :)
[00:56] <warm> craigbass1976,  thx :-)
[00:56] <icehawk> if you do not have ubuntu one installed you will not be able to to share files wirelessly.  To check you can go into terminal and enter uwfu status and it should tell you
[00:56] <craigbass1976> warm, it's always the stupid things that trip me up too
[00:57] <smg60231_> icehawk: hm, well I used ufw to 'open' 9987 becuse ufw did tell me firewall is enabled...
[00:57] <icehawk> if you have firewall active or not
[00:57] <smg60231_> icehawk: I am not trying to share files wirelessly, I am trying to enable people to connect to a server that should be listening on port 9987
[00:57] <icehawk> then you need to config it
[00:57] <smg60231_> icehawk: however, even though I 'opened' 9987 in ufw netstat doesn't show it =.=
[00:58] <icehawk> download firestarter from software center and config firewall. t
[00:58] <wasp> how can i lesson the memory used
[00:58] <dlentz> pehden, i'm not sure, my ncurses links are very different
[00:58] <icehawk> netstat i have never used i just simply use sudo commands in terminal
[00:59] <icehawk> but back to your main issue
[01:00] <dlentz> wasp, how much memory do you have and waht desktop are you running>?
[01:00] <icehawk> i would suggest that you go into the software center and download all the serve deiscovery files such as SSL and ect
[01:00] <icehawk> might help you
[01:01] <smg60231_> icehawk: okay, thanks. I am running with putty ssh connection and I am not using any GUI on the server so... I, more than likely, will have no clue how to operate these services =\
[01:01] <arooni-mobile> why am i getting the error: COULD NOT bind. .... for:    ssh -p 22222 -D localhost:9999 chasetoys@70.123.45.67
[01:02] <jegd> hello, i just installed ubuntu mini in a virtual machine and it won't boot, i keep getting back to the installer boot menu. first time i'm doing this, any pointers?
[01:02] <smg60231_> icehawk: But I will def. try, thanks :)
[01:02] <schnuffle> smg60231: still problems?
[01:03] <icehawk> yup anything i can do to help..I had nightmares my first time using this system so I know the painfull things that happen
[01:03] <icehawk> lol
[01:03] <schnuffle> jegd: still the install cd mounted?
[01:03] <smg60231_> schnuffle: Indeed =\ . I reinstalled Linux completely, and yet I still can't get 9987 to open...
[01:03] <smg60231_> icehawk: oh, this is a nightmare alright. Thanks xD
[01:03] <schnuffle> smg60231: which service you want to run or what do you want to do with port 9987
[01:04] <icehawk> I had to reinstall mine 3 times to get it right . it was all my fault of course as i had no idea at the time but i got used to it
[01:04] <smg60231_> TeamSpeak 3 server, listens on 9987
[01:04] <jegd> schnuffle: how do i unmount?
[01:04] <schnuffle> smg60231: okay and how does the problem manifest? You start teamspeak an nothing is listening on port 9987?
[01:05] <schnuffle> jegd: sudo unmount /dev/<yourdevice>
[01:05] <smg60231_> schnuffle: I can connect over LAN to my server, obviously.
[01:05] <dlentz> craigbass1976, still there? i see epiphany data in ~/.gnome2
[01:05] <smg60231_> schnuffle: however, others trying to connect over WAN get "Unable to connect to server", generic error
[01:05] <schnuffle> smg60231: sudo netstat -tulpen to see if the port is in listening mode, iptables -F to list firewall rules
[01:05] <craigbass1976> dlentz, and someone in ubuntu+1 just told me Ctrl+H.  Doh!
[01:06] <icehawk> im still lerning wireless connectivity issues with printers.
[01:06] <jegd> schnuffle: ah, hang on. i used an iso
[01:06] <smg60231_> icehawk: Ah, I see lol. I suppose I will have to do the same
[01:06] <schnuffle> jegd: then sudo unmount /path/to/mountpoint
[01:06] <schnuffle> smg60231: has your server a public IP?
[01:06] <icehawk> I found that if you use a burnt dick copy instead of wubi it helps alot
[01:07] <sianhulo> dudes, i need your help, i was trying to format a partition from my external disc drive so I u typed this mkdosfs -F32 -v -n "" /dev/sdb, but igot this error http://pastebin.com/mKB4dre9
[01:07] <schnuffle> jegd:  typo its umount
[01:07] <smg60231_> schnuffle: It has a hostname that is updated via DUC to reflect the WAN IP
[01:08] <schnuffle> sianhulo:  use the partition which is /dev/sdb1
[01:08] <smg60231_> schnuffle: 9987 does not seem to be in the LISTENING list
[01:08] <schnuffle> smg60231: ps aux | grep team to see if the server is running
[01:08] <jegd> schnuffle: says it's not mounted
[01:09] <schnuffle> jegd: paste: mount to see what is mounted
[01:09] <sianhulo> schnuffle, i dont get you, that is what i'm trying to use, it got corrupted, tried to format and got that
[01:09] <NFisher> Hi all! i just want to deinstall my previously installed nvidia 295.33 driver, which i installed manually vie terminal as adviced on nvidia.com... how can i now uninstall it ? it is not in the Synaptic-Packet-Manager?
[01:09] <icehawk> Actull this is a good question...how do i get rid of partishions with 0 capasity that were previosly installed. lol..they are empty but cant delet them for somereason
[01:10] <pycoderf> is there a good guide for setting up ltsp?
[01:10] <smg60231_> schnuffle: One moment, after entering "iptables -F" my server terminated SSH and TeamSpeak connection so... I have to go see what happened lol. brb
[01:10] <krisbulman> newb question: I have Ubuntu 11.10, which comes with FreeType 2.4.4.. however I need 2.4.5 or higher.. any tips on how to upgrade freetype?
[01:10] <thesheff17_> pycoderf, I would check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP
[01:11] <schnuffle> smg60231: shit my fault iptables flushes the list it should have been iptables -L
[01:11] <schnuffle> sianhulo:  try mkfs.vfat -F 32 /dev/sdb
[01:11] <mcloy> how do i setup fqdn ?
[01:11] <schnuffle> with saudo of course
[01:12] <SolarNRG> woo hoo I love you hoo
[01:12] <mcloy> how do i setup fqdn to setup an email server?
[01:12] <icehawk> Will tell yu my ubtuntu installaation nightmares maybe it will help everyone...
[01:12] <schnuffle> mcloy: you set the hostname in  /etc/hosts and in /etc/hostname
[01:12] <kcrothers> share your pain icehawk
[01:12] <NFisher> for anyone who wants to know: its "nvidia-installer --uninstall"
[01:13] <dlentz> krisbulman, have you checked ppa'
[01:13] <schnuffle> mcloy:  and if you have a mail server, you need to adjust /etc/postfix/main.cf
[01:13] <jegd> schnuffle: fixed it. thanks a bunch :)
[01:13] <Guest95417> how can i install my netgear wifi
[01:13] <cmcintosh> anyone ever get a uvee2 usb external video card working with Ubuntu
[01:14] <schnuffle> jegd your welcome
[01:14] <krisbulman> dlentz: for Oneiric only 2.4.4 is listed
[01:14] <sianhulo> schnuffle, got aother error, man http://pastebin.com/u7sjaPgr
[01:14] <krisbulman> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/freetype
[01:14] <smg60231_> schnuffle: Ah, I see... so... I can't establish an SSH connection anymore lol. Any suggestions as to fixing this
[01:14] <cmcintosh> running Ubuntu 11.10 and having issues getting it to start
[01:14] <smg60231_> ? xD
[01:14] <Jordan_U> icehawk: How are you trying to delete the partitions? What happens when you try? What is the output of "sudo parted -l"?
[01:14] <icehawk> first one i was partiioning my hard drive to run ubunto and then found it was to slow so wanted to deltet it in reinstall to make a bigger portion size. I deltter the bootmgr from ubuntu and restarted and screwed myself big time.  I had to contact my laptop manufactor and reset to defualt settings. Would have cost me 200 for new windows program cause i had no back up
[01:14] <mcloy> schlaftier,  do i need a .com domain too ?
[01:14] <schnuffle> sianhulo:  try mkfs.vfat -F 32 /dev/sdb1
[01:14] <icehawk> lost everything litterly
[01:14] <icehawk> took me 5 hours of reprograming
[01:14] <sianhulo> schnuffle, mkfs.vfat: failed whilst writing FAT :S
[01:14] <schnuffle> smg60231: Hard to judge if I don't know your setup
[01:15] <Guest95417> how can i run my netgear wifi on ubuntu
[01:15] <schnuffle> sianhulo: with sudo in front?
[01:15] <Jordan_U> icehawk:  Please stick to support questions/answers.
[01:15] <smg60231_> schnuffle: owo I don't know my setup. All I know is it dropped after command 'iptable -F' lol
[01:15] <sianhulo> schnuffle, yes
[01:15] <icehawk> secound when i was tring to reinstall ubuntu for the secound time it would not show uo on boot loader.
[01:15] <schnuffle> smg60231: the best would be to restart your server
[01:15] <smg60231_> schnuffle: So everything I do now will have to be me running back and forth from this computer to my server owo
[01:15] <mcloy> schlaftier,  do i need a .com domain too ? and what to put in /etc/hosts and hostname ?
[01:15] <icehawk> Man did that piss me off
[01:16] <smg60231_> schnuffle: alright, will do lol. brb
[01:16] <tbrock> hey guys, how do you get a service to autstart now in ubuntu
[01:16] <schnuffle> mcloy:  you need of course a DNS entry that points to your server
[01:16] <dlentz> Guest95417, depends on model/chipset
[01:16] <icehawk> so after that nightmare . I finaly got it working via partisioning and a little luck.
[01:16] <schnuffle> mcloy: it can be any top level domain
[01:17] <Guest95417> what chipset my computer came with W7 64bit
[01:17] <dlentz> use lspci to determine wireleess chipset
[01:17] <Guest95417> but i took that off and put ubuntu
[01:17] <Guest95417> 10.4
[01:17] <tbrock> dudes?
[01:18] <schnuffle> tbrock: dude?
[01:18] <mcloy> schlaftier,  i have added ip    tab   mail.domain.com
[01:18] <icehawk> then a screwed up installing firewall so when i rebooted my system ubuntu would not load cause it was left on auto start on loading via terminal. settings were left at deny for all connections so would not load. grrr..again had to reinstall
[01:18] <krisbulman> dlentz: if the package isn't there for my dist (ppa), what's next?
[01:18] <schnuffle> mcloy: ?
[01:18] <dlentz> krisbulman, install from source?
[01:18] <mcloy> schlaftier,  i have domain.com          what to add in /etc/hosts
[01:18] <smg60231_> schnuffle: Alright, SSH is back now xD ty.
[01:18] <schlaftier> mcloy: Please stop highlighting me. You're talking to someone else.
[01:19] <schnuffle> mcloy: has your server a static IP?
[01:19] <mcloy> schlaftier,  sory
[01:19] <smg60231_> schlaftier: So, iptables -L, right?
[01:19] <mcloy> schnuffle,  yes
[01:19] <schnuffle> schlaftier: apparently he means me :)
[01:20] <mcloy> i have added  host as mail.domain.com        and points to         the.ip.of.server
[01:20] <schnuffle> okay then there should be a line:     192.168.1.0   your.fqdn.com
[01:20] <mcloy> now iam making  mail.domain.com"      as mx records.....
[01:20] <icehawk> this time i backed everything up via burnt disc and works wounderfully. I lerned alot from youtube and from ubuntu website ..trust me if you do not know check youtube just make sure that what people tell you are consistant with at least 3 vids
[01:20] <schnuffle> mcloy:  of course change the IP to your IP
[01:20] <schlaftier> schnuffle: Makes sense to me :-) I'm going to bed anyway, have a good one
[01:20] <schnuffle> schlaftier:  schlaf schön
[01:21] <smg60231_> schnuffle: http://pastebin.com/PZaACVQz
[01:21] <Guest95417> what do i have to do in order to make it works my Netgear Wnda3100 in ubuntu
[01:23] <dlentz> Guest95417, use wireless backports package
[01:23] <cmcintosh> is there a way to restart X windows without rebooting ubuntu?
[01:23] <Guest95417> oh  ok
[01:24] <icehawk> ummm maybe use wine
[01:24] <dlentz> cmcintosh, log out works, as does sudo service lightdm restart
[01:25] <sianhulo> schnuffle, you gave up?
[01:25] <icehawk> i have aother story about best buys geek squad when i asked about ubuntu
[01:25] <cmcintosh> hmm
[01:25] <cmcintosh> not sure if that worked or not
[01:26] <cmcintosh> so running into a bit of an issue with a usb vga card
[01:26] <dlentz> !ask | cmcintosh
[01:26] <cmcintosh> looking to get it configured and working with ubuntu/xwindows either as a twinview or seperate server it does not really matter
[01:27] <cmcintosh> !patience | dlentz
[01:27] <dlentz> touche
[01:28] <dlentz> anyway... waht usb vga is it?
[01:28] <smg60231_> Uhm, even after reinstall and opening port 9987 supposudly in router and on server, I still can't recieve connections... any suggestions?
[01:28] <icehawk> When my system crashed beccause of missing bootlader i went to them for help first. I asked them if they could just install ubuntu on my computer as its frree and better then windows(spits on windows). He told me no i would have to pay 200 for reinstall of windows and could not touch anything they do not sell. in return I told him he was not much of help when he cant use all the tools avaloble to him and called them worthless.lol..you sh
[01:28] <icehawk> ould have seen this dudes face
[01:28] <cmcintosh> its an Eclipse see2uv150 put out by madcatz
[01:29] <icehawk> bootmment to say bootmgr
[01:29] <diganyun> hello
[01:29] <smg60231_> hi
[01:30] <liuqi_> 11111111
[01:31] <liuqi_> 12
[01:31] <dlentz> liuqi_, please stop
[01:31] <liuqi_> 2222
[01:31] <dlentz> !op
[01:31] <fanchangru> hello
[01:31] <liuqi_> 你好
[01:31] <qiliang> 你好
[01:32] <qiliang> hello world
[01:32] <wan> 1
[01:32] <qiliang> 2
[01:32] <zhudandan> fffffffffffffff
[01:32] <zhudandan> gggggggggggggg
[01:32] <bitplane-> hhhhh?
[01:33] <tracy> 考
[01:33] <zhangjie> shit
[01:33] <tracy> ticpic
[01:33] <zhudandan> hua qing yuan jian
[01:33] <DMJC> how do you debug a silent crash? I've got a SAS raid controller program that refuses to run. It executes with -v option but I can't get it to persist in it's daemon state. There don't appear to be any crash messages or output. I need to be able to find why it crashes.
[01:33] <tracy> huaqing
[01:33] <wasp> hola
[01:33] <diganyun> do not worry ,be happy
[01:33] <tracy> farsight
[01:33] <wen> ha lou
[01:33] <lingo> hola
[01:34] <zhudandan> xu guo yan
[01:34] <icehawk> hmm anyone know if ubuntu is safe to load onto ps3 without losing anything
[01:34] <smg60231_> ufw says all connections to 9987 are allowed, yet people can not connect to my server that is supposed to be listening on 9987. Any suggestions? o.o
[01:34] <yanqi> yanqi
[01:34] <dlentz> !op
[01:34] <bitplane> smg60231 can you telnet to the port and establish a connection?
[01:34] <wasp> tu hablo espaonl
[01:35] <icehawk> smg thats dangerous to have that opend you need firestarter. then add rules
[01:35] <wen> p]
[01:35] <smg60231_> bitplane: Nope
[01:36] <smg60231_> icehawk: Not quite sure how to use firestarter, but I will download it. I have had 9987 open for 1.5 years until two days ago owo
[01:37] <icehawk> software center
[01:37] <smg60231_> icehawk: I know how to get it, I am downloading it now... but I am not using a GUI owo
[01:38] <icehawk> ohhh.. once you download you simply have to unlock with your passowrd then use the plus or minus sign to add or take away rules
[01:38] <root> hah
[01:38] <root> haha
[01:39] <logic_> im fairly new to linux i was wondering under what directory does ubuntu typically install programs?
[01:40] <elijah> Is there a way to "mkdir /these/are/all/new/directories/"
[01:40] <dlentz> logic_, /usr/bin
[01:40] <smg60231_> icehawk: I have firestarter installed but... how do I access it now?
[01:40] <elijah> logic_: I think it is /usr/lib
[01:40] <logic_> elijah thanks
[01:40] <itaylor57> elijah, mkdir -p
[01:40] <philip__> I was using mixxx software on my ubuntu 11.04 and the system froze making a noise also. Had a look to log files but could not find anything to investigate it. Any ideas?
[01:40] <elijah> logic_: or maybe not, anyways, check out the command man heir
[01:41] <elijah> itaylor57: thanks
[01:41] <mcloy> schnuffle,  i was disconnected
[01:41] <mneptok> logic_: /bin - /usr/bin - /usr/local/bin
[01:41] <philip__> logic, usr/bin, and so on.
[01:41] <logic_> ill check it out thanks :)
[01:41] <icehawk> just go to dash home and serch for firewall
[01:42] <mcloy> schnuffle,  so i need a domain.com even to use mailserver locally?
[01:42] <smg60231_> icehawk: I have it downloaded... but it didn't prompt me to do anything after installation... I don't know how to use this program lol.
[01:42] <smg60231_> icehawk: At least, not without GUI
[01:42] <dude> hello
[01:43] <icehawk> i use ubuntu 11 10 .  if you go to apps the look for it should be there
[01:43] <ki7rw> heh, i just registered my nick about 10 minutes ago and i still can't join  ##hamradio - i'm using quassel
[01:44] <mcloy> schnuffle,  you there?
[01:44] <dlentz> ki7rw, see #freenode >
[01:44] <Guest72231> I bought an internal drive with one of those cases, and my ubuntu does not recognize it all, I know I have to initialize the drive, but I have no idea how to, can anyone help me ?
[01:45] <icehawk> if you cant find it i will send you a link to youtube that can help you
[01:45] <smg60231_> icehawk: I can't... I don't have GUI  o.o
[01:45] <schnuffle> back again
[01:45] <smg60231_> schnuffle: wb... and... I still need your assistance, if it isn't too much lol
[01:45] <schnuffle> mcloy: no
[01:45] <marshall> hi all
[01:45] <obelus> Does anyone know if it's safe to add both an ipv4 and ipv6 address and gateway to /etc/network/interfaces?
[01:46] <schnuffle> smg60231: no prob, first you will need to check if your teamspeak starts
[01:46] <icehawk> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Lwxk5iLn_I
[01:46] <smg60231_> schnuffle: It does, I am able to connect over LAN
[01:46] <mcloy> schmidtm,  are you busy?
[01:46] <Grivvel> I had a crazy idea and I'm wondering if anyone has any idea where I should start. I have a 24-minute .ogg file of rain sounds that I'd like to layer over an mp3 stream of piano music. Does anyone know of any programs that will let me layer the two and access it as one audio file/stream through my music players?
[01:46] <schnuffle> smg60231: okay so now you'll need a portforwarding at your router
[01:47] <smg60231_> icehawk: The video you listed, the person uses a GUI. Again, I am using pure terminal no GUI
[01:47] <smg60231_> schnuffle: already do.
[01:47] <icehawk> ohhhhh....yah i use gui...i do not think its possable to do it anyother way
[01:47] <schnuffle> smg60231: okay, but people from outside cant connec tto your server?
[01:47] <elijah> Can the cp command copy all new contents from a source folder to a target folder but if target contains /one/folder/path/ that source did not have can cp just add all source files and not overwrite the /one/folder/path in source?
[01:47] <smg60231_> schnuffle: correct
[01:48] <philip__> Grivvel, try mixxx.
[01:48] <schnuffle> smg60231: so have you listed your iptable rules to see if anything blocks it?
[01:48] <Grivvel> philip__: Awesome, I'll check that out. Thanks for the tip!
[01:48] <philip__> Np.
[01:48] <smg60231_> schnuffle: http://pastebin.com/PZaACVQz
[01:48] <smg60231_> I don't know how to interperate this, sorry lol
[01:48] <Patrick_DJ> Grivvel: I only know there's a software called Audacity, which is used to do audio editing, maybe you can try that.
[01:49] <icehawk> i have that to patrick its usefull
[01:49] <Grivvel> Patrick_DJ: Yeah, I'd definitely use Audacity if I were dealing with static songs, but since one is a live MP3 stream, audacity doesn't seem to work.
[01:50] <icehawk> well bye all and hope all turns out well
[01:51] <Patrick_DJ> Grivvel: I see. 0_0
[01:51] <schnuffle> smg60231: damned what are you doing, who has created the ufw rules? If it wasn't you who was it and for what purpose. You'll need to change the ufw behaviour
[01:51] <philip__> Grivvel, is that an electric piano?
[01:52] <smg60231_> schnuffle: The only rule I created was 'sudo ufw allow 9987' owo
[01:52] <smg60231_> This blocking of my port was happening before I touched ufw or anything...
[01:52] <smg60231_> schnuffle: This is a clean installation and it is still happening >.<
[01:52] <schnuffle> smg60231_:  okay but for what are all the other rules. they need to have a reason
[01:53] <smg60231_> schnuffle: I don't know owo. I know nothing about this lol... I am sorry, I am a complete newb and I don't know how to intereperete these rules... or what they are.
[01:53] <schnuffle> smg60231_: how can a clean system have ufw rules. That means you at least installed ufw
[01:54] <philip__> must be apparmor. not ufw.
[01:54] <Grivvel> philip__: Nope, just a free mp3stream from solopianoradio.com
[01:54] <schnuffle> smg60231_:  A firewall is a tool that needs some knowledge. I would recommend to just drop ufw as I don't see a reason you ned it
[01:54] <smg60231_> schnuffle: I enabled ufw after reading that I can open 9987 with it. I enabled ufw after people not being able to connect to 9987 on a clean install owo
[01:54] <wassy121_> smg60231_: what is running on 9987?
[01:54] <smg60231_> wassy121_: TeamSpeak3
[01:54] <wassy121_> All firewall defaults allow loopback, so try to run "telnet localhost 9987"
[01:54] <schnuffle> smg60231_: All ports can be openened without ufw, you don't need it for that
[01:55] <wassy121_> check to see that it is listening with "netstat -pant | grep 9987"
[01:55] <dogget_> hello all. how one can mount an iphone 4 (ios 5.1) in ubuntu 11.10. I have tried without success.
[01:55] <philip__> Grivvel, ok. because you said stream, i thought you were planning to capture live.
[01:55] <schnuffle> wassy121_:  router -> portforwarding -> server port 9987 teamspeak
[01:56] <wassy121_> Is teamspeak even running/listening?
[01:56] <smg60231_> wassy121_: Atm no. I am rebooting since I just shut down ufw... however it was running and I was able to connect to it over LAN.
[01:56] <smg60231_> WAN was not able to, however. This was with ufw disabled.
[01:57] <Grivvel> philip__: Nope, sorry. Just trying to layer the mp3 stream from the internet and the .ogg file from my local computer. I can obviously just open the files in two separate audio programs, but I'd prefer it if I could treat them as one (with one stop/play/volume control)
[01:57] <wassy121_> yeah, leave ufw disabled then.  The problem may be with the router portforwarding setup
[01:58] <`Korvin> anyone know how to install ^sqlite[^3] for php?
[01:58] <`Korvin> I install php5-sqlite, that seemed to be sqlite3
[01:58] <`Korvin> which != sqlite
[01:58] <Grivvel> philip__: Yeah, doesn't look like mixxx has support for mp3 stream input. Thanks for the idea though :)
[01:58] <wassy121_> `Korvin: should be the same thing.
[01:59] <dogget_> Ok I know many don't like apple stuff but I need to know how one can mount an iphone 4 (ios 5.1) in ubuntu 11.10. I have tried without success just need to grab the pictures from the phone before I ditch the iphone.
[01:59] <smg60231_> wassy121_: I have tried reforwarding it on my router many different times. Router says it is forwarded... not sure what else to do in that case owo . All of the other ports my router says are open, indeed are open.
[02:00] <wassy121_> smg60231_: turn off all LAN connections, watch tcpdump for WAN connection, see if you get any data
[02:00] <philip__> Grivvel, i think you can feed mixx or audacity with that stream. you just need something before. let me check it.
[02:01] <wassy121_> smg60231_: "sudo apt-get install tcpdump"
[02:01] <wassy121_> smg60231_: "tcpdump -Xx port 9987"
[02:02] <smg60231_> wassy121_: Do you mean to avoid LAN all together, or can I remain in SSH?
[02:02] <wassy121_> smg60231_: then try wan connect.  Watch for random data.  ctrl-c stops the capture
[02:02] <wassy121_> smg60231_: you can remain in ssh, just be sure that nothing is connecting to 9987 but the one you want to test (the wan/external guy)
[02:02] <philip__> grivvel, try this: http://forum.audacityteam.org/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=61117
[02:03] <smg60231_> wassy121_: Alright, let me start my teamspeak and ask someone to connect here in a moment.
[02:03] <smg60231_> wassy121_: thanks
[02:04] <dogget_> Please anybody :-(
[02:06] <schnuffle> dogget_: I found somethin for ios 5.01:  first install sudo apt-get install libimobiledevice-utils, then unlock your iphone screen and try idevicepair unpair && idevicepair pair
[02:06] <dlentz> i'm getting too high for this, good night
[02:07] <smg60231_> wassy121_: I get an error txpdump: command not found
[02:08] <schnuffle> smg60231_:  the command is called tcpdump
[02:08] <smg60231_> schnuffle: I know, I entered tcpdump
[02:08] <schnuffle> !tcpdump
[02:08] <pirsch> Hi all. I'm using 11.10 Gnome. Is there a way I can change my mouse configuration to one click instead of always having to do 2?
[02:08] <smg60231_> schnuffle: oh sorry, misread no I didn't lol my bad
[02:09] <sianhulo> i got my partition corrupted. formated it to fat32 and turned into it but gave me errors. formated again but this time to ext4 and had no errors(aside for the fact that I magically get almost 5gb used) but i need to have it fomated to fat32. this is the log i get when trying to format it into fat32 http://pastebin.com/DP9R8Dgj
[02:09] <smg60231_> schnuffle: now it's 'tcpdump: no suitable device found'
[02:11] <escott> sianhulo, those 5gb are reserved for root to make sure it doesn't get too full. you can reduce the amount that is reserved
[02:12] <dogget_> Thank you Schnuffle, I have tried that and it didn't work before :-(
[02:12] <escott> sianhulo, tune2fs if you ever need to do that in the future
[02:12] <smg60231_> schnuffle: so, am I not able to use tcpdump then? o.o
[02:12] <pirsch> Hi all. I'm using 11.10 Gnome. Is there a way I can change my mouse configuration to one click instead of always having to do 2?
[02:13] <schnuffle> dogget_:  it seems to be important that you unlock your phone doing it for the first time
[02:13] <bitplane-> pirsch, you can make the mouse simulate a double click on long-click. open universal access settings
[02:13] <interlude> is there a way of getting the md5sum of a file in a repository - say for example /bin/ps ?
[02:14] <bitplane-> not sure about single click to open in nautilus though, but that's your keyword
[02:14] <schnuffle> smg60231_:  what happesn when you try tcpdump -n port 9987?
[02:14] <sianhulo> escott, you mean to format it to fat32?
[02:14] <smg60231_> schnuffle: tcpdump: no suitable device found
[02:14] <bitplane-> interlude: you can pipe stuff to xargs to call it once for each input line
[02:15] <schnuffle> smg60231_:  what is the name of the interface you wnat to check eth0? if so try tcpdump -i eth0 ......
[02:15] <bitplane-> ls -0 | xargs md5sum
[02:15] <smg60231_> schnuffle: eth1 I believe, lemme try that
[02:16] <bitplane-> sorry: ls -1 | xargs md5sum
[02:16] <pirsch> Hi bitplane, I tried but it doesn't work, even when I moved the slider all the way to the left. Do I have to reboot?
[02:16] <sianhulo> escott, ah,I read it all now
[02:16] <bitplane-> pirsch: I'm not sure, I've never used it
[02:16] <smg60231_> schnuffle: well, that might be my problem... owo
[02:16] <dogget_> @schnuffle: What do you mean by unlock in this case?
[02:17] <pirsch> bitplane: ok, thanks anyway
[02:17] <smg60231_> schnuffle: I have two interfaces listed, eth1 and lo, eth1 is my LAN so...
[02:17] <escott> sianhulo, yeah im not sure what problem you were having with fat32, you seem to be able to partition that just fine.
[02:17] <schnuffle> dogget_:  unlock the iphone
[02:17] <pirsch> bitplane: it's not a biggy, just a minor preference
[02:17] <schnuffle> dogget_:  which means to unlock the screen with this slider at the bottom
[02:17] <sianhulo> escott, i still have the problem with fat32, i can format it ext4 but i have problems formating it fat32(and that's what i need)
[02:18] <smg60231_> schnuffle: but, I can download on my server and yet I only have an lan interface and loopback o.o
[02:18] <schnuffle> smg60231_:  ifconfig eth0 gives you the IP of the interface
[02:18] <torb> hi, i have a question related to external harddrives and ubuntu, am i at the right place?
[02:18] <smg60231_> schnuffle: eth0 isn't listed in my ifconfig...
[02:18] <schnuffle> smg60231: when you connect locally do you use the same IP to which you have configured your portforwarding?
[02:19] <dogget_> @schnuffle: it gave me that: lockdownd_client_new failed with error code -12
[02:19] <tyler_d> smg60231_: try `ip a`
[02:19] <smg60231_> schnuffle: yes, and I just go eth0
[02:19] <interlude> bitplane-: could you give me an example of using xargs to check the md5sum against a file in the ubuntu repositories
[02:19] <smg60231_> tyler_d: I don't know what you mean? As a command? Doesn't work
[02:20] <smg60231_> schnuffle: http://pastebin.com/H3Gm0sES
[02:21] <smg60231_> schnuffle: ifconfig says there is no eth0 o.o
[02:21] <tyler_d> smg60231_: ip a doesn't work?
[02:21] <philip__> trb, yes you are.
[02:21] <smg60231_> tyler_d: As a command? No, how am I supposed to enter that, if you don't mind explaining? I am a newb owo
[02:21] <torb> Great, this might still be the wrong place, i just want to figure out whether ubuntu is to blame for this strange error im receiving.
[02:21] <schnuffle> smg60231_: that is okay as long as eth1 is working
[02:21] <tyler_d> smg60231_: from a terminal simply type `ip a`
[02:21] <smg60231_> schnuffle: eth1 shows LAN IP and info
[02:22] <schnuffle> fine
[02:22] <sianhulo> i'm feeling dow for losing a whole disc drive of 300gb. what on earth happens to that pieces of ... that i cannot format it fat 32
[02:22] <philip__> ok torb.
[02:22] <smg60231_> tyler_d: typing into my terminal 'ip a' does not work
[02:22] <schnuffle> smg60231_:  My guess is that you made a mistake with your portforwarding
[02:22] <smg60231_> ip a: command not found
[02:23] <tyler_d> smg60231_: ummm I don't know what to say then...
[02:23] <smg60231_> schnuffle: Hm... my router shows right here that port 9987 UDP is open on 10.0.0.5 owo... I don't know what else to do, powercycling didn't change anything =\
[02:24] <schnuffle> sianhulo:  FAT32 max size 32GB ( windows format utility ) other wise 127,53GB
[02:24] <cyrus_> Hi everyone does anyone knows how to install I3 Graphics driver on Ubuntu ?
[02:24] <kleeman7> would anyone mind answering some media pc questions for me?
[02:25] <philip__> go ahead kleeman7.
[02:25] <schnuffle> sianhulo:  okay mkfs.vfat can handle more
[02:25] <sianhulo> schnuffle, but i tried that either, don't you remember?
[02:26] <kleeman7> I have an older desktop 1.9ghz amd 64x2, and just on onboard nvidia 6150se and i am wondering if it would preform better with win 7 or ubuntu and xbmc
[02:26] <schnuffle> sianhulo: I know, and it's hard to give you advice
[02:26] <schnuffle> sianhulo: I mean hard to imagine your concrete setup and problem
[02:27] <torb> I have an external hdd where i keep a quite extensive collection of files. I had only managed these files in ubuntu up until today when i plugged it into my win7 computer. In win7 some folders give me an error about "directories not being found" and "files no longer being there" when i try to open them.  In ubuntu i have no problems with these directories. The file names should be win7 compatible, but i cant seem to make these folders no matter how
[02:27] <torb> i name them in ubuntu
[02:27] <torb> is this a win7 related problem, or is there something i can do in ubuntu to make the directories compatible?
[02:27] <schnuffle> sianhulo: have you checked your disk with fdisk to see the partitions?
[02:28] <Grivvel> philip__: Well, I was able to use Audacity to record the two audio sources, but there doesn't seem to be a way to stream out to a file (or any other form of streaming). I think I'm going to look into sox a bit as that's starting to look promising from what I'm reading.
[02:28] <sianhulo> schnuffle, actually, i haven't
[02:28] <schnuffle> sianhulo:  sudo fdisk -l /dev/<yourdevice>
[02:28] <obelus> I have installed a package that the system believes is broken but is fully functioning - is there a way to stop apt-get from constantly returning dpkg errors about configuring it?
[02:29] <smg60231_> schnuffle: So, do you have any other suggestions? Or should I blame this on my router? owo. The router says the port is open... =\
[02:29] <smg60231_> schnuffle: I tried setting my server as DMZ too, no luck.
[02:29] <schnuffle> smg60231_:  open and forwarded to the right place is a difference. You could try to do the same with Port 22 and then try to connect with ssh
[02:30] <tyler_d> smg60231_: I will interject here; what are you trying to forward?
[02:30] <tyler_d> smg60231_: what port on your machine specifically
[02:30] <schnuffle> smg60231_: If you get that working the retry with teamspeak.
[02:30] <philip__> Grivvel: Glad you found something to start.
[02:30] <smg60231_> tyler_d: I am trying to forward port 9987. I have it forwarded... as in it is listed as a forwarded port.
[02:30] <schnuffle> tyler_d:  port 9987 from router to PC running teamspeak
[02:30] <bitplane-> Grivvel: you want to mix the sound together in realtime from the command line?
[02:30] <mcloy> i need postfix to just send emails from local machine by php. do i need a domain.com? and fqdn?
[02:31] <Grivvel> bitplane-: Yup, exactly.
[02:31] <tyler_d> smg60231_: netstat -antp | grep 9978
[02:31] <sianhulo> schnuffle, (i have the whole device unformatted by now) this is what i get http://pastebin.com/AF0J3R3A . should i do it after 'trying' to format it to fat32?
[02:31] <tyler_d> smg60231_: sorry 9987
[02:31] <smg60231_> schnuffle: I am able to connect to port 22... so... what should I do to make sure it works after port forwarding.
[02:31] <naldo_sp> #ubuntu-br
[02:31] <schnuffle> sianhulo:  create a partition and then retry
[02:32] <tyler_d> smg60231_: does that show it as listening?
[02:32] <schnuffle> smg60231_:  you connect to your pc using the external IP of your router, which should then forward it to your PC. In that way you can check if your portforwarding is correct
[02:32] <bitplane-> Grivvel: you can use a command-line tool like mplayer to output to RAW from stdin, like wget your stream, pipe it into mplayer and out as raw
[02:32] <smg60231_> tyler_d: it... did nothing
[02:33] <bitplane-> then I guess you need to do the same with your piano music, maybe in a loop. possible with a shell script done the same way
[02:33] <tyler_d> smg60231_: where exactly are you running these commands that you get 0 output from the generics?
[02:33] <tyler_d> smg60231_: try something simple like "ls"
[02:33] <bitplane-> finally, use two named pipes and a small python program to mix the two together
[02:33] <smg60231_> tyler_d: I entered into terminal 'sudo netstat -antp | grep 9987'
[02:33] <obelus> tyler_d: My guess is it did nothing because the port isn't listening
[02:33] <bitplane-> then out through your speakers using one of the alsa tools
[02:33] <bitplane-> or to a file or whatever
[02:33] <smg60231_> tyler_d: I was not in a directory
[02:34] <smg60231_> schnuffle: I am confused, you want me to enter the external IP of my server when connecting over SSH?
[02:34] <tyler_d> smg60231_: thats fine, good point obelus... so what application is supposed to be listening?
[02:34] <schnuffle> smg60231_:  it to make sure that you can create a portforwarding that works.
[02:35] <tyler_d> smg60231_: if nothing on your machine is listening then how do you know?
[02:35] <Cyb3rjunk> hi everyone, does anyone knows how to install Graphics driver for I3 ?¿?¿?¿?¿?¿?
[02:35] <schnuffle> if you portforward port 22 to your PC, you should be able to connect to it through your routers external ip
[02:35] <smg60231_> tyler_d: TeamSpeak 3 should be listening on 9987. I did that commaned you gave me before I think, and it worked then but wont now.
[02:35] <smg60231_> through my router's external? Enter my router's external IP?
[02:35] <philip__> kleeman7, ubuntu in general is much more stable, and proven to support older hardware like yours. I suggest you grub a live cd of the version you like, and try. From my experience, i wouldn't go further from 11.04. But since you're using nvidia, you might have better results with later ubuntu also (11.10 - 12.04 to be expected.)
[02:36] <tyler_d> smg60231_: so port forwarding 22 works? is said application running?
[02:36] <schnuffle> tyler_d: he doesn't know yet. :)
[02:36] <sianhulo> schnuffle, now it gives this http://pastebin.com/ysgYQPEn (fat 32 with errors)
[02:36] <Grivvel> bitplane-: Thanks, that helps a lot. Do you have any idea if there's a way to cap the size of a file I'm writing to and just keep the end? I'd like to control playback via a normal music player (preferably cmus) without filling up my hard-drive with either data in a pipe or file when I'm paused/stopped.
[02:36] <Cyb3rjunk> hi everyone, does anyone knows how to install Graphics driver for I3 ?¿?¿?¿?¿?¿?
[02:36] <smg60231_> tyler_d: I have just finished forwarding the port and I am going to try and connect via SSH with my Router's external IP if I can find it lol...
[02:37] <smg60231_> tyler_d: The server I want to listen, however, is not.
[02:37] <schnuffle> sianhulo: I don't see any error
[02:38] <tyler_d> smg60231_: you need to have your machine listening to that first, then test locally by doing `telnet localhost <<that_port>>` ... if this connects then you are successful
[02:38] <smg60231_> schnuffle: not quite sure where I am to find an external IP for my router owo
[02:38] <sianhulo> schnuffle,  neither do I however, the partition is still unusable
[02:38] <kleeman7> Thanks philip, i will give it a try, i was only asking because by netbook played hd youtube better in windows, but then again i know its only related to flash not actual hd formats like mkv
[02:38] <tyler_d> smg60231_: then worry about the router, I'm sure it is working just fine, however if you want to test that do telnet <<public_ip>> port
[02:38] <schnuffle> smg60231_:  tyler_d is helping you just follow one route
[02:39] <tyler_d> sorry schnuffle
[02:39] <Cyb3rjunk> how to install Graphics driver for Intel I3 ?¿?¿?¿?¿?¿?
[02:39] <tyler_d> smg60231_: don't worry about that just yet
[02:39] <smg60231_> tyler_d: test 22 or 9987, then? I am a bit confused as to what you are having me enter... I am using putty lol.
[02:39] <schnuffle> sianhulo: you mean unusable with fat32 but usable with ext3?
[02:39] <smg60231_> I can select telnet, and enter a port, but you want me to enter a random public IP to connect to? o.o
[02:39] <smg60231_> or my servers?
[02:40] <schnuffle> tyler_d: thats okay
[02:40] <sianhulo> schnuffle, i dont know ext3, but with ext4 seem to work
[02:40] <smg60231_> lol stupid question
[02:40] <smg60231_> my servers but
[02:40] <tyler_d> smg60231_: open said program that is supposed to be listening on that port.. and do the `netstat antp | grep <<port>>`
[02:40] <schnuffle> sianhulo: it seemed or it did?
[02:40] <tyler_d> smg60231_: lets start with that please
[02:40] <smg60231_> tyler_d: alright
[02:40] <sianhulo> schnuffle, WITH fat32 i cannot copy things and i am unable to change its tag
[02:40] <smg60231_> tyler_d: lol sorry, getting confused here.
[02:40] <smg60231_> tyler_d: I can do that, one sec
[02:40] <sianhulo> schnuffle, have to check, didn't get an error, let me se
[02:40] <philip__> kleeman7, yes, and in ubuntu you might need to tweaks things to get the most out of your system. But you can get your self there for sure.
[02:41] <tyler_d> smg60231_: trying my best to keep this simple for you :( sorry
[02:41] <schnuffle> sianhulo:  that can be due to mount options
[02:41] <sianhulo> schnuffle, no, it was mounted(i was in nautilus after all). and when trying to change its tag, it was unmounted
[02:41] <kleeman7> Thanks philip__ I going to give it a try.
[02:41] <smg60231_> tyler_d: Not your fault, was mine lol. I was trying to follow you and schnuffle, soz lol
[02:42] <Cyb3rjunk> how to install Graphics driver for Intel I3 ?¿?¿?¿?¿?¿?
[02:42] <philip__> kleeman7, best of luck.
[02:42] <tyler_d> smg60231_: so what is the output please?
[02:42] <Guest95417> does ubuntu has a complete package where you don't have to install anything else
[02:42] <tyler_d> smg60231_: and the name of the app?
[02:42] <Cyb3rjunk> Operating System: Windows XP Professional SP3 (Build #2600)
[02:43] <mintman> Guest95417: lol, no
[02:43] <torb> no one?
[02:43] <tyler_d> Guest95417: you need to be more specific... the generic answer.. yes. the finite one, no
[02:44] <tyler_d> smg60231_: you still there?
[02:44] <smg60231_> tyler_d: shaun@reignmarisvr:~$ sudo netstat -antp | grep 9987 ; shaun@reignmarisvr:~$
[02:44] <smg60231_> tyler_d: no output at all
[02:44] <tyler_d> smg60231_: ok, what is the name of this application please?
[02:44] <smg60231_> tyler_d: TeamSpeak 3
[02:44] <smg60231_> tyler_d: It is running atm as well
[02:44] <tyler_d> smg60231_: `ps aux | grep -i teamspeak`
[02:45] <sianhulo> schnuffle, now it is ext4 but dont know where the heck it went
[02:45] <Guest95417> like for instance linuxos  is one 1GB you dont have to install anything else
[02:45] <philip__> Guest95417, depends. you can add a single repository to support audio and video coddecs for example, or you can grab a customized ubuntu based distro.
[02:45] <logicc> register logicc openaccess1
[02:45] <tyler_d> smg60231_: I need the running name please(would be the last in that output)
[02:45] <logicc> lol
[02:45] <logicc> fail
[02:46] <smg60231_> tyler_d: Just says teamspeak in red?
[02:46] <smg60231_> tyler_d: http://pastebin.com/
[02:46] <smg60231_> tyler_d: oh wow soz
[02:46] <smg60231_> tyler_d: one sec lol
[02:46] <tyler_d> smg60231_: lol
[02:47] <smg60231_> tyler_d: http://pastebin.com/XiWaqYJj there we go lol
[02:47] <Guest95417> is just that some distros dont read some hardware
[02:48] <Guest95417> like sound card or network card or other
[02:48] <sianhulo> it says tht place is not folder...
[02:48] <tyler_d> smg60231_:  then try `netstat -antp | grep -i teamspeak | awk '{ print $4 }' | cut -d: -f2`
[02:48] <mcloy> i need postfix to just send emails from local machine by php. do i need a domain.com? and fqdn?
[02:48] <mcloy> sory
[02:49] <mcloy> do i need bind /
[02:49] <mcloy> ?
[02:49] <sianhulo> schnuffle, i tried sudo moun /dev/sdb1 and it gave " no se puede encontrar /dev/sdb1 en /etc/fstab o /etc/mtab"("ir couldn't be found)
[02:49] <smg60231_> tyler_d: No output
[02:50] <tyler_d> smg60231_: try `netstat -antp | grep -i team`
[02:50] <Guest95417> i dont like ubuntu 12.04 because you cannot make any changes on your desktop or windows
[02:51] <philip__> Guest95417, you can start from here: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/switching/preparing-hardware.html
[02:51] <smg60231_> tyler_d:  No output
[02:51] <LinuxGuy2009> Are the kernel packages with 'pae' in the name the same as bigmem kernels? For systems with more than 4GB of ram etc?
[02:51] <tyler_d> smg60231_: so teamspeak is not listening at all.. or not bound using the same name
[02:52] <kgemini22> yo
[02:52] <smg60231_> tyler_d: All I know is the directory name for teamspeak and the startscript for it...
[02:52] <kgemini22> anyone know of drivers for a NVidia 555M for BackTrack/Ubu
[02:52] <smg60231_> tyler_d: I know it is running right now... and it's default listening port is 9987
[02:52] <kgemini22> googled to no avail
[02:52] <tyler_d> smg60231_: pidof teamspeak
[02:53] <smg60231_> tyler_d: No output
[02:53] <Guest95417> but 8.4 is lower than 10.04 it is.
[02:54] <tyler_d> smg60231_: netstat -antp | grep 4192
[02:54] <smg60231_> tyler_d: No output
[02:55] <tyler_d> smg60231_: oh poop
[02:55] <tyler_d> smg60231_: I'm so sorry, that is my bad, you said udp earlier didn't you
[02:55] <smg60231_> tyler_d: yeah owo
[02:55] <smg60231_> tyler_d: Lol np?
[02:55] <tyler_d> smg60231_: netstat -antu | grep teamspeak
[02:55] <tyler_d> smg60231_: I'm sorry
[02:56] <smg60231_> tyler_d: No apologies, you're helping me lol. Aaaand... no output.
[02:56] <smg60231_> tyler_d: But
[02:56] <smg60231_> I did get an output by entering 9987
[02:57] <tyler_d> smg60231_: very good, so it is listening
[02:57] <smg60231_> tyler_d: udp        0      0 0.0.0.0:9987            0.0.0.0:*
[02:57] <tyler_d> smg60231_: so its listening on all ports
[02:57] <tyler_d> smg60231_: now how do you test if its functioning from an application perspective?
[02:58] <smg60231_> tyler_d: Eh... to see if my ts server is functioning correctly?
[02:58] <smg60231_> tyler_d: I ask someone to try and connect to it lol
[02:58] <tyler_d> smg60231_: is the only requirement that port on udp + forwarding from your router?
[02:59] <smg60231_> tyler_d: Yes, to connect at least. There are two TCP ports that have to be open for File Transfer and SQ
[02:59] <tyler_d> smg60231_: just read up on it... aparently
[02:59] <curiousx> ciao a tutti
[02:59] <smg60231_> tyler_d: The server still can not be connected to
[02:59] <tyler_d> smg60231_: you sir, are good to go then from here
[02:59] <smg60231_> tyler_d: owo
[03:00] <tyler_d> smg60231_: in a pm, send me your ip if you wouldn't mind
[03:00] <tyler_d> smg60231_: and you are forwarding the udp on your router to your private ip?
[03:00] <smg60231_> tyler_d: yes, my LAN
[03:02] <tyler_d> smg60231_: do a port forward for testing briefly!!! and forward tcp port 22 to your machine if you would please
[03:02] <smg60231_> tyler_d: okay
[03:02] <tyler_d> smg60231_: ok as in done?
[03:03] <smg60231_> tyler_d: Yes
[03:03] <tyler_d> smg60231_: I think your router may be buggy sir. try and forward both udp/tcp on the same port(22)
[03:04] <smg60231_> tyler_d: I already had tcp/udp forward.
[03:04] <tyler_d> smg60231_: I am afraid to tell you that its a problem with the router :(
[03:04] <tyler_d> smg60231_: do you have the client on your lan as well? even the same machine is fine
[03:04] <smg60231_> tyler_d: Really? Why do all of my other ports work owo
[03:04] <tyler_d> smg60231_: teamspeak client I mean
[03:04] <Guest95417> i am having problem to watch videos because i need the Adobe Flash
[03:05] <tyler_d> smg60231_: and close that forward(22)
[03:05] <smg60231_> tyler_d: I do have a client on my LAN.
[03:05] <smg60231_> tyler_d: I can connect via my LAN
[03:05] <tyler_d> tyler_d: indicating that from the ubuntu perspective this forward is functioning, and based on the output, the machine is listening on all ip\s on the server
[03:06] <tyler_d> tyler_d: and define, all other forwards?
[03:06] <smg60231_> tyler_d: I have forwards for a few games, bittorrent client, etc etc.
[03:07] <smg60231_> tyler_d: they all work, and have worked perfectly. The router seems to be working fine aside from this forward but...
[03:07] <smg60231_> yeah
[03:07] <icehawk> ok i need help
[03:07] <sianhulo> schnuffle, going to bed. almost 12pm here
[03:07] <smg60231_> tyler_d: Honestly, I have had the router for 2 years about...
[03:07] <sianhulo> good bye, everyone
[03:07] <bitplane-> I'm unable to stop my wireless network using network manager. Any idea what logs I should be checking?
[03:08] <icehawk> need to know how to set upp transmission
[03:08] <tyler_d> smg60231_: I really do not know what to say about that though; really from the machine perspective it is functioning and listening to the correct ports :(
[03:08] <smg60231_> Hm, well I have another router here at my disposal, maybe I should switch them out and give it a shot? owo
[03:08] <tyler_d> smg60231_: I would for sure
[03:09] <icehawk> anyone...
[03:09] <smg60231_> tyler_d: Alright, thank you so much tyler_d! I appreciate it so much :) . If it doesn't work, I will be back, trust me... I will be back xDD . I am the pest that does't go away owo.
[03:09] <smg60231_> tyler_d: Again, thank you so much ^^
[03:10] <tyler_d> smg60231_: your quite welcome; best of luck to you!
[03:10] <smg60231_> icehawk: Sorry, I used it once a long time ago but... not since.
[03:10] <smg60231_> tyler_d: Thank you ^^
[03:10] <Guest95417> can some one help me with my questions please.
[03:10] <icehawk> ohh what is the most commnly used now. I use frostwire in windows
[03:10] <smg60231_> icehawk: You are using a GUI? I had no issues with it when I used it owo but, this was a long time ago and not on server.
[03:10] <icehawk> not sure about ubutnu
[03:11] <icehawk> yah
[03:11] <smg60231_> icehawk: Well, I only use Ubuntu for server, and windows for all else. I can actually DO stuff in windows owo lol. I don't feel like such a newb xD . Though... put me in my registry and I will screw everything up owo
[03:12] <icehawk> hmmm...
[03:12] <smg60231_> icehawk: Ah, once I get to college, they will have some ACTUAL computer programs xD . Not like basic HTML crap =.= . Anyway, thank you so much for the help. Logging off ^^
[03:13] <icehawk> yup
[03:13] <icehawk> anyway people . my issue is that i cant do seerched via trasmision
[03:14] <icehawk> serches
[03:14] <icehawk> searches in transmission
[03:15] <icehawk> sorry all im just tires
[03:15] <icehawk> tired
[03:15] <imachine> it's gott be heavy to be tires
[03:16] <icehawk> anyone know how to get transmission working fully.
[03:16] <appoloin> hello need advice.. i paid for the game uplink using ubuntu software central and all payment is confirmed but i did not have any indication of downloading the software
[03:22] <intok> Getting repository errors with PPAs http://pastebin.com/PDbMAvi6
[03:23] <zykotick9> intok: you're missing the key, i take it you didn't use add-apt-repository (or similar) command to add the repo
[03:24] <zykotick9> s/key/keys/
[03:24] <dubaco> How do i deactivate the  prepriotry graamphics drivers i am on a k53u asus machine
[03:24] <dubaco> manually*
[03:25] <zykotick9> dubaco: "sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.disabled" might work
[03:25] <intok> zykotick9 weird, when I added the ppas months ago the software installed, any way to tell what PPAs they are from the error?
[03:26] <zykotick9> intok: one is a PPA the other is tridex.net?  sorry no further suggestions, you could google the keys to find the repos probably.
[03:30] <intok> zykotick9 Tridex would be the official Mate desktop repo.
[03:31] <zykotick9> intok: i see.  3rd party repos seem silly to me (i consider PPAs 3rd party BTW)
[03:31] <JelloPop> video problem with xine cant play dvd get deuxmer error and looking for gnome-plugins for dvd content
[03:32] <zykotick9> JelloPop: have you added dvd playback?
[03:32] <JelloPop> zykotick9: what library
[03:32] <zykotick9> !dvd | JelloPop
[03:33] <zykotick9> JelloPop: libdvdread4 from ubuntu or libdvdcss2 from medibuntu (same package in the end - name of libdvdread4 could be incorrect)
[03:34] <JelloPop> zykotick9: thank u
[03:34] <intok> zykotick9 I'm guessing the others are Snes9x and the Pithos PPA, the version of Pithos in the Ubuntu repos can't connect to the Pandora server and Snes9x is so far the only working SNES emulator I could find...
[03:34] <zykotick9> JelloPop: the ubuntu/libdvd.. read package you need to run a script after install (which downloads/installs the libdvdcss2 from medibuntu without adding the repo)
[03:34] <zykotick9> intok: snes on 64bit is a big issue for me personally ;)
[03:35] <safebin> http://safebin.net/84
[03:35] <intok> zykotick9 you wouldn't happen to know of a working MAME emulator would you?
[03:36] <zykotick9> intok: sdlmame is more modern then xmame, i can say that for sure ;)
[03:36] <intok> specifically with support for SNK and Capcom system
[03:36] <zykotick9> intok: sdlmame is the best neogeo emulator, period ;)
[03:37] <xubu2> thunar is having error deleting files from a linked directory. ' can't find or create trash directory?' is this a feature or not? nautilus or dolphin has no issues
[03:40] <daninoz> Hi
[03:40] <judezhan_> Hi
[03:41] <daninoz> I have a dual boot with Win7 and Ubuntu. I installed WAMP in Win and I have a couple of db there. What can I do to use that db in Ubuntu?
[03:42] <sacarlson> daninoz: try export the databases
[03:42] <deww> daninoz: export it. mysqldump -u root -p dbnamename > database.sql
[03:42] <deww> and then import it. mysql -u root -p dbname < database.sql
[03:42] <deww> something like that
[03:43] <deww> you'll need to copy the grants over too
[03:43] <JelloPop> zykotick9: ran across the libxinel-all-plugins that did the trikc
[03:43] <sacarlson> daninoz: being a gui guy you might like doing it in phpmyadmin that has export and import
[03:43] <daninoz> sacarlson, deww I know. But I want to have both db updated.
[03:43] <JelloPop> zykotick9: Now I have no sound
[03:44] <totesmuhgoats> hey friends
[03:44] <zykotick9> JelloPop: i never use xine myself?
[03:44] <deww> daninoz: what do you mean by that?
[03:44] <sacarlson> daninoz: I have two mysql linked so that if one changes the other matches,  I'm not sure if the same can be done on windows
[03:44] <menturi> Hello. I found a minor typo on the Ubuntu website and am uncertain where to report it: http://www.ubuntu.com/support/training/course-descriptions > Ubuntu Professional > "...in an office environmentAfter completing..."
[03:45] <daninoz> sacarlson, that's what I want to do. I don't want to import and export every time I change OS.
[03:45] <totesmuhgoats> i am experimenting with wordpress in ~/public_html. I would like to do some administrative tasks but it seems that the folder isn't writable to wordpress. Is this a matter i can resolve by chmod? or is it something configured in apache?
[03:46] <sacarlson> daninoz: you still have to export inport to start it continues to keep them the same
[03:46] <deww> totesmuhgoats: chmod/chown, the wp-content directory probably needs to be writable by the webserver
[03:46] <deww> daninoz: you should run the sql database elsehwere then
[03:49] <daninoz> sacarlson, deww, and what if I make a symbolic link between the folder data in Win7 and the folder data in Linux installation of MySQL ?
[03:49] <totesmuhgoats> deww: how can i find out the name of that user? i don't see anything in /etc/group that makes me think it could be the one
[03:49] <deww> totesmuhgoats: see what user apache is set to run as. probably either apache, httpd or nobody
[03:50] <deww> daninoz: eh... while file system will you use to share with both OSes?
[03:50] <totesmuhgoats> deww: how might i do that?
[03:50] <sacarlson> daninoz: I'm not sure the data structure between windows and linux in mysql are the same, when linked both servers must be running at the same time
[03:50] <zykotick9> totesmuhgoats: www-data is my guess.  "ps aux | grep apache"
[03:51] <totesmuhgoats> zykotick9: yep, that did it, thanks
[03:51] <sacarlson> daninoz: doesn't mean they are different,  you could try export and import then do md5sum on the files on each to see if they end up the same
[03:51] <totesmuhgoats> and thanks to you deww , you've been immensely helpful
[03:51] <FernandoCueva> I have issues
[03:52] <daninoz> sacarlson, ok, I'm gonna try that
[03:53] <FernandoCueva> I have issues with my crtc I can't set a resolution higher then 800x600 I tried both tools gtf and cvt but I still get crtc error
[03:54] <Guest29617> i need help with Adobe flash player
[03:55] <FernandoCueva> me too
[03:55] <Guest29617> how to install
[03:55] <safebin> open synaptic
[03:56] <Guest29617> can some one help me with my question please
[03:56] <Sidoniuns> open synaptic, search for flash-player and install
[03:56] <Guest29617> i did that i don't know what to do next
[03:56] <Guest29617> do i have to restart my computer
[03:59] <Guest29617> i did before on software now i am do it on Synaptic
[03:59] <itaylor57> KM0201, \o/
[03:59] <KM0201> itaylor57: lol, you've really taken a liking to that haven't you?.. o/
[03:59] <itaylor57> yep
[03:59] <KM0201> itaylor57: i'm trying to figure out how to the YMCA like that.. :)
[04:01] <itaylor57> KM0201,  yea i am trying out kde4
[04:01] <KM0201> itaylor57: sad, sad, sad
[04:01] <KM0201> are you attempting to see how slowly your computer can run?
[04:02] <itaylor57> KM0201, yea i am about to try xfce
[04:02] <KM0201> actually, i have to admit, in a moment of weakness, i tried KDE4 last week.. it's not bad when you disable all the crap, i just hate the bazillion apps it has.
[04:02] <KM0201> xfce4 is extremely buggy.. i used to be a huge xfce fan, not now.
[04:06] <jodesj777> Hi guys
[04:07] <jodesj777> Just made a big mistake, asked OSX =to use one partition to use as TIMEMACHINE and the 2 others partition on disk have been lost and does not automount either on Ubuntu either on OSX.
[04:07] <jodesj777> I was wondering, what is the best software to do partition tables TOC recovery or Data recovery
[04:10] <FernandoCueva> I have issues with my crtc I can't set a resolution higher then 800x600 I tried both tools gtf and cvt but I still get crtc error
[04:11] <BGrishenko> Hey all, I'm trying to get flash working on a new Ubuntu install. I'm waiting for the restricted extras to finish installing-- Will flash work with Chromium with just that package?
[04:11] <KM0201> BGrishenko: it should
[04:13] <FernandoCueva> don't use google products please
[04:13] <BGrishenko> @KM Thanks.
[04:13] <BGrishenko> @Fernando -- Why not? Chrome seems to work great.
[04:13] <BGrishenko> I mean,...I use internet Explorer sometimes...you know, to download other browsers and things...
[04:15] <FernandoCueva> google has been established to log all users activity
[04:15] <KM0201> FernandoCueva: keep the nonsense to a minimum.
[04:16] <KM0201> bottom line, our govt already has all the info on us they need
[04:16] <KM0201> they could care less what porn you look at
[04:16] <Lirodon> I made this feature specification idea, before I put it on the wiki, does anyone have opinions? https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Hi0JjGQ3sKelajAoEFuP-8pWi7YGnM4ogYfiF0XBbK8/edit
[04:16] <FernandoCueva> they're an internet watch dog I'm mad I can't find an alternative to google earth is as if they been setup by the shadow goverment to be given preferential access
[04:17] <KM0201> Lirodon: i i only read the first paragraph and i already wholeheartedly disagree
[04:17] <Lirodon> read the whole thing.
[04:17] <FernandoCueva> I don't use google I use startingpage instead they encrypt and protect our searches
[04:18] <Lirodon> "In order to obtain development software for use on the Ubuntu platform, a user must pay $100 for a development license, which will allow them access to development software from the Software Centre, such as compilers, libraries, and editors. A development license will also allow users to root and unlock their systems to external software. In other words: Want vim and make? Pay up! Want to compile your own kernel? Give us all your money!"
[04:18] <KM0201> Lirodon: honestlym, i don't need to.. if the first paragraph is that inaccurate, i question the rest.
[04:18] <Lirodon> KM0201, argh is it April 1st yet
[04:18] <KM0201> hmm, have i been april fooled?
[04:18] <Lirodon> yeah
[04:18] <itaylor57> KM0201, yep you are right about kde4
[04:19] <KM0201> itaylor57: i'd be interested in hearing your opinion of xfce4, i hated it
[04:20] <itaylor57> i am in gnome 2, i will checkout xfce later and let you know
[04:20] <funnyhaha> how do i find out what graphics card i have
[04:20] <zykotick9> funnyhaha: "lspci | grep -i vga"
[04:21] <cloudgeek> i played a .avi movie ,giving me codec error and redirect me install window player ,how to fix this
[04:22] <cc11rocks> I'm trying to set up ufw/gufw. I can't figure out how to allow HTTP access...Though I've gotten HTTPS to work
[04:22] <cc11rocks> I allowed out ports 443 and 80, both TCP
[04:22] <zykotick9> cloudgeek: step 1 - install ubuntu-restricted-extras  step 2 - install w32codecs or w64codecs from mediubuntu
[04:23] <cc11rocks> The log is just giving me a "blocked" message with no specific information when it blocks HTTP...
[04:23] <`Korvin> I can't get hdmi 5.1 working =[
[04:24] <zykotick9> cloudgeek: fyi, if you're using vlc the above does not apply!
[04:24] <cloudgeek> zykotick9: thanks doing same
[04:24] <`Korvin> Digital stereo nr4 works
[04:24] <`Korvin> but I can't get any 5.1 to work
[04:24] <cloudgeek> zykotick9: it also giving me same error with vlc too
[04:25] <zykotick9> cloudgeek: what are you using?
[04:25] <cloudgeek> zykotick9: banshee
[04:25] <zykotick9> cloudgeek: ummmm.  good luck.  i can't help further.  mono-contaminated.
[04:25] <cloudgeek> zykotick9: also tried movie player too
[04:25] <cc11rocks> Can anyone help me with my firewall setup?
[04:25] <cloudgeek> zykotick9: okay then what should i need to use
[04:26] <zykotick9> cloudgeek: it's up to you.
[04:26] <cloudgeek> zykotick9: main thing is what i download , wrath of titan from torrent ,that is .avi
[04:27] <atul> hi anyone, i want to have a gui on my ubuntu 10.4 server on a remote machine, installed lubuntu via apt-get but i get this error http://fpaste.org/gvv4/
[04:27] <zykotick9> !warez | cloudgeek
[04:27] <cloudgeek> zykotick9: i am telling you about my situation
[04:27] <cloudgeek> not about piracy
[04:28] <zykotick9> cloudgeek: i'm adding you to /ignore - don't both reply to me, i won't see it.
[04:28] <Lirodon> cloudgeek, but you made a passing reference to pirated content
[04:28] <Viman> hey I have Lucid installed in one of my PCs and wish to upgrade it to Oneiric directly, how can I do it? do_lsb_release points it to maverick
[04:28] <cc11rocks> Did anyone see my posts on here, or did my firewall block them?
[04:28] <sacarlson> cc11rocks: I guess you need to add allow all incoming established connections
[04:28] <Viman> I mean do-release-upgrade
[04:28] <cloudgeek> zykotick9: okay thanks , do same can ignore me
[04:29] <cloudgeek> Lirodon: but i wanna to tell ,more about the problem , not about piracy
[04:29] <cc11rocks> sacarlson: okay, thanks
[04:29] <Lirodon> cloudgeek, you should have explained the problem without mentioning the type of content
[04:30] <cloudgeek> Lirodon: okay , this thing must not repeated
[04:31] <cloudgeek> next time i must take care of this
[04:31] <zykotick9> Viman: you can't skip releases! (EXCEPT LTS->LTS, just wait a month)
[04:32] <`Korvin> Does anyone know how I can get 5.1 working over hdmi?
[04:33] <alberto> hi
[04:35] <obelus> I have an IPv6 tunnel set up, but am having trouble getting forwarding to work - I can send outgoing IPv6 from the computer running the tunnel, but not from any others.
[04:38] <Viman> zykotick9: really? so I can upgrade straight into precise once it comes out?
[04:38] <zykotick9> Viman: yup - expect issues :p
[04:39] <Viman> zykotick: I already have way too many issues with this Lucid install (bad ATI drivers). Could I upgrade from the LiveCD?
[04:39] <Viman> like the Precise LiveCD?
[04:40] <zykotick9> Viman: no, you can only upgrade from alternate cd.  LiveCD won't work!
[04:40] <zykotick9> !alternate | Viman
[04:40] <jodesj777> Anyone having skill on gpart ?
[04:40] <Viman> zykotick: ah, so I finally see a use for that one. Thanks loads, mate.
[04:41] <zykotick9> !tab > Viman
[04:42] <Viman> zykotick9: good tricks, man. All knowledge is power. Thanks loads.
[04:42] <zykotick9> Viman: glad to help ;)
[04:54] <it9001> zzz
[04:55] <Guest59505> i having problem with the adobe flash player i when to software and also synaptic
[04:55] <Guest59505> and is not working
[04:55] <Guest59505> can some please help me
[04:57] <Viman> Guest59505: what kind of problems?
[04:58] <UBuxuBU> good morning technicians...
[04:58] <it9001> almost 6 am here
[04:58] <aeon-ltd> it9001: gmt?
[04:59] <Guest59505> well when i go to watch videos it tell me this massage This plugin is disabled
[04:59] <it9001> England time.
[04:59] <it9001> Okay
[04:59] <it9001> which browser are you using?
[04:59] <i7c> Guest59505: what browser?
[04:59] <Guest59505> i am very tire dealing with this thing
[04:59] <KM0201> Guest59505: what videos?
[04:59] <it9001> It's probably naughty stuff :P
[05:00] <Guest59505> WWW.veehd.com and www.vidxden.com
[05:00] <Guest59505> but when i go to youtube videos it plays, i dont understand
[05:01] <KM0201> Guest59505: well, veehd.com is working fine for me... the other one, i don't have an account, etc.. so i don't know
[05:01] <it9001> 2nd one Divx video..
[05:01] <it9001> isn't that just for windows?
[05:01] <KM0201> first one is for flash
[05:01] <KM0201> i thought divx could play via VLC?
[05:01] <it9001> youtube = flash
[05:02] <it9001> yeh but u would have to download
[05:02] <Viman> Guest59505: hey, for youtube Gnash has worked fine for me. But as for flash, what is the browser/Ubuntu version you got there?
[05:02] <i7c> or html5 :P
[05:02] <it9001> idk if u can view it online
[05:02] <it9001> What is this html 5
[05:02] <it9001> how do i get it..
[05:02] <Guest59505> 10.04
[05:02] <i7c> you can buy it in the candy shop.
[05:02] <it9001> really? :D
[05:02] <i7c> i thought so, no :-O
[05:02] <it9001> jk.
[05:03] <it9001> Seriously, how do i get it
[05:03] <it9001> o-o
[05:03] <i7c> are you seriously serious?
[05:03] <it9001> Yes
[05:03] <i7c> well current browser version should be able to do it ;)
[05:03] <Viman> Guest59505: any browser fails to detect flash?
[05:04] <Viman> Guest59505: or is it a specific one?
[05:04] <i7c> it9001: and considering youtube, you can make a setting somewhere in your account, so it uses html5 when possible.
[05:04] <Guest59505> i cannot watch movies online  on youtube
[05:05] <KM0201> Guest59505: do you have flash installed?
[05:05] <Guest59505> i am checking on fox Add-ons and Extensions  Flashgot is disabled
[05:05] <Viman> Guest59505: the most straightforward answer would be to upgrade ubuntu, but as I have asked before, it's better to wait a lil more just to get straight Precise Pangolin
[05:06] <Viman> Guest59505: wait, flashgot isn't flash, you know? open Synaptic and look for "adobe" or "flashplugin"
[05:06] <Guest59505> which  this one Pangolin
[05:06] <Guest59505> where can i get it
[05:06] <_Tristan> Hi. If I set my system date to something, say six months later than it actually is, will something very bad happen?
[05:07] <Guest59505> software or synpt
[05:07] <KM0201> Guest59505: hold on, first are you using firefox, if so, go here, and see if it says you have flash up to date..  http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/plugincheck/
[05:07] <sparky-> guest59505: youtube has opt-in program for html5-based videos
[05:07] <Guest59505> yes i am using firefox
[05:07] <KM0201> Guest59505: go to that link i gave you, and see what it says about flash
[05:08] <aatish> hi all can any one tell me better ide for php
[05:08] <sparky-> tristan: eventually, when you set the clock back to the real time you might start seeing "file has date in the future" during make
[05:09] <sparky-> tristan: but no, not a lot of things care about timestamps besides development tools
[05:09] <_Tristan> good.
[05:09] <_Tristan> thanks
[05:09] <sparky-> (and forensics, but if you knew that you wouldn't be asking)
[05:10] <namoamitabuddha> Hi, guys.
[05:11] <KM0201> Guest59505: ?... so whats your status
[05:13] <LNG> hello
[05:14] <Guest89641> Algum Brasileiro online ae?
[05:14] <bazhang> !br
[05:14] <keegsconte> Hello Ubuntu
[05:15] <Guest89641> Hello
[05:19] <P1P3> join #irc.thaishadow.com
[05:22] <NFisher> Hi all! How can i base64-encode a plain text on an ubuntu-machine?!
[05:23] <vicatcu> can anyone tell me how to install the mysql client libraries on ubuntu?
[05:24] <vicatcu> i'm getting this message
[05:24] <vicatcu> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of sphinxsearch:
[05:24] <vicatcu>  sphinxsearch depends on libmysqlclient16 (>= 5.1.50-1); however:
[05:24] <vicatcu>   Version of libmysqlclient16 on system is 5.1.49-3.
[05:25] <UBuxuBU> 1st make sure everything is completely uptodate then,,,sudo apt-get install mysql-server mysql-client
[05:26] <UBuxuBU> if all management tools arent up to date it will fail
[05:26] <vicatcu> @UbuxuBu so first do sudo apt-get update?
[05:26] <UBuxuBU> yes
[05:26] <vicatcu> done.
[05:27] <UBuxuBU> sudo apt-get update
[05:27] <UBuxuBU> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:27] <UBuxuBU> everything must be up to date
[05:27] <vicatcu> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[05:27] <vicatcu>  mysql-server : Depends: mysql-server-5.1 but it is not going to be installed
[05:27] <vicatcu>  sphinxsearch : Depends: libmysqlclient16 (>= 5.1.50-1) but 5.1.49-3 is to be installed
[05:27] <vicatcu>                 Depends: upstart-job
[05:27] <vicatcu> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[05:27] <FloodBot1> vicatcu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:29] <vicatcu> and when I do sudo apt-get -f install, I get a very stern sounding warning that sysvinit will be removed
[05:29] <UBuxuBU> http://ariejan.net/2007/12/12/how-to-install-mysql-on-ubuntudebian
[05:30] <zykotick9> vicatcu: mix repos much?
[05:30] <vicatcu> zykotick9 not really
[05:30] <vicatcu> i think my apt-get is in a bad place right now
[05:31] <vicatcu> because i tried to install sphinx serach using dpkg
[05:31] <vicatcu> and failed with the mysql dependency problem
[05:32] <vicatcu> UBuxuBU when I run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade it just tells  me sphinxsearch has unmet dependencies
[05:33] <UBuxuBU> hmmm
[05:33] <vicatcu> do i need to uninstall sphinxsearch somehow?
[05:33] <UBuxuBU> must need to update that then or ditch it
[05:33] <UBuxuBU> i dont know
[05:33] <aet> hi i just installed ubuntu after windows and everything seemed to go fine, but when i boot my computer i never get the choice to boot into ubuntu
[05:33] <aet> it boots into windows automatically
[05:33] <bdi> Does anybody know if there is a guide which is up to date about how to create .deb packages? (this one seem to be outdated: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Basic )
[05:34] <UBuxuBU> aet reinstall grub
[05:34] <aet> how?
[05:34] <UBuxuBU> i just built 2 dual booters aet
[05:35] <UBuxuBU> what os's did u have on there 1st
[05:35] <aet> win 7
[05:35] <aet> thats on 1 hdd, then i have another hdd partitioned off for ubuntu and storage
[05:35] <UBuxuBU> had u manipluated the partitions in any way
[05:36] <aet> well i had storage partitioned i just let the ubuntu install do its thing
[05:36] <UBuxuBU> u manipulated something first
[05:36] <kedoo> h
[05:36] <vicatcu> so I 'installed' sphinx search by saying: sudo dpkg -i sphinxsearch_2.0.4-oneric_amd64.deb
[05:36] <vicatcu> how the heck do I 'uninstall' it?
[05:36] <obelus> aet: I think the problem is your bootloader is probably installed on your Ubuntu drive, and your BIOS is probably set to boot your Windows drive first.
[05:36] <UBuxuBU> vic
[05:36] <aet> obelus so reverse the boot order?
[05:37] <aet> obelus would that affect windows from loading?
[05:37] <UBuxuBU> GO INNTO C DRIVE AND into partition mgmt in windows
[05:37] <obelus> aet: Just a guess, but if you tell it to boot the other HD first, it SHOULD start into grub, and give you a choice of which OS to load. Worst case scenario you ahve to change your bootloader again
[05:37] <UBuxuBU> then delete the buntu partition
[05:37] <Vic> ?
[05:37] <vicatcu> ?
[05:37] <EvilResistance> !enter | UBuxuBU
[05:37] <UBuxuBU> then it will be unused when u go to reinstall buntu
[05:37] <aet> ubuxubu i dont have ubuntu installed on c drive
[05:38] <aet> its on a separate physical disk
[05:38] <UBuxuBU> then if thats the case
[05:38] <obelus> aet: If that doesn't work, simply choose the Windows hard drive (probably /dev/sda1) as the spot for GRUB to install the MBR.
[05:38] <UBuxuBU> u have to use bios to get to it
[05:38] <bdi> Does anybody know if there is a guide which is up to date about how to create .deb packages? (this one seem to be outdated: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Basic )
[05:38] <aet> how can i install grub without being able to boot into linux?
[05:38] <EvilResistance> aet, livecd?
[05:39] <obelus> aet: You can't - you can use a Live CD, or reinstall Ubuntu if you can't make it start by changing the boot order
[05:39] <obelus> !repeat | bdi
[05:39] <aet> ok
[05:39] <it9001> if it9001 bored = true then game = false
[05:39] <it9001> xD
[05:39] <UBuxuBU> if the 2 os's are on different hardware drives u have to use bios to get into one or the other
[05:39] <obelus> UBuxuBU: Please shut up. That isn't true.
[05:40] <obelus> UBuxuBU: My Ubuntu loader on my VM still asks me if I want to boot debian from /dev/sda3
[05:40] <UBuxuBU> he is saying he has 2 os on 2 different hard drives
[05:40] <obelus> UBuxuBU: I can read, thank you. I know what he's saying. What I'm saying is that you're wrong. A bootloader can choose an OS on a different hard drive without using the BIOS
[05:40] <it9001> doesen't matter, it'll still pick it up, gnu/linux is not Windows.
[05:41] <it9001> obelus: exactly.
[05:41] <obelus> it9001: Windows can do it too. I don't know of any bootloader that can't.
[05:41] <mr_gees100_peas> hi, I'm having problem with video. youtube videos play fine but everywhere else is choppy
[05:41] <obelus> its9001: Even the old NTLDR could do it -.-
[05:41] <it9001> obelus: me neither.
[05:41] <mr_gees100_peas> I installed flash-aid
[05:41] <UBuxuBU> i have a machine with doze on 1 hd and buntu and xp on the other and it separate...completely
[05:41] <mr_gees100_peas> that helped but, most video play very choppy
[05:41] <obelus> UBuxuBU: If you need to use the BIOS to switch between Windows and Ubuntu, you're doing it wrong.
[05:42] <it9001> ^ what he said
[05:42] <it9001> xD
[05:42] <syn-ack> Very wrong
[05:42] <UBuxuBU> i called dell to try to try to make it it like u say and they said no
[05:42] <bazhang> UBuxuBU, thats enough
[05:42] <obelus> aet: Any progress with what I said?
[05:42] <it9001> LOL
[05:42] <it9001> so Dell are #Ubuntu?
[05:42] <it9001> Riight.
[05:42] <obelus> UBuxuBU: I don't care what Dell said. I care what I'm saying, I'm right, they're wrong. Please be quiet.
[05:43] <obelus> ... maybe that was a little harsh.
[05:43] <syn-ack> obelus, Tell him Steve-Dave! :P
[05:43] <bazhang> obelus, lets be civil and move on
[05:43] <vicatcu> what is this trying to tell me: sphinxsearch : Depends: libmysqlclient16 (>= 5.1.50-1) but 5.1.49-3 is to be installed
[05:43] <bazhang> UBuxuBU, if you dont know, please do NOT respond
[05:43] <UBuxuBU> well good cause i would like to know how
[05:43] <obelus> Bleh. Having IPv6 routing problems and don't know if it's my tunnel broker or my configuration that's the problem.
[05:44] <syn-ack> obelus, When in doubt, blame the broker. heh. What's going on?
[05:44] <obelus> syn-ack: I can access the internet via IPv6 from the machine that's making the connection, but no forwarding configuration I've tried has allowed the other machines on my network to get through on IPv6
[05:44] <syn-ack> Ah
[05:45] <syn-ack> That sounds like more likely a Netfilter issue
[05:45] <obelus> I figured that, but I've tried using ufw and ip6tables to set up forwarding, and nothing I do does it
[05:45] <syn-ack> Not knowing your exactly config though, that makes it kinda hard to really give you more detail.
[05:45] <syn-ack> exactly/exact
[05:46] <syn-ack> obelus, I wouldn't suggest using ufw for this one... maybe try using iptables directly on this one
[05:46] <MooNSpell> hi 2 all
[05:46] <obelus> syn-ack: What would you need to know? If it's my ip6tables rules, the latest set I tried was simply ACCEPT from anywhere to anywhere for all tables
[05:47] <Karmaon> go 2
[05:47] <syn-ack> obelus, I'd need to know how your Open/SWAN is setup, etc etc
[05:47] <obelus> I'm not sure what you mean by Open/SWAN.
[05:47] <disappearedng> I have 127.0.0.1 mydomain.com on /etc/hosts but then when I go to mydomain.com I am actually going to the one in the internet. Any ideas?
[05:48] <syn-ack> How you have your interfaces homed, things like that. To simply say it could be netfilter, which it very well could be since that's the most confusing aspect of it all. What did you use to build the tunnel?
[05:49] <obelus> I'm using gw6c with freenet6 for my tunnelbroker, it's also handling the IPv6 router advertisements.
[05:50] <Israfel> test
[05:50] <Israfel> Well, at least I can talk in one channel. Freenode is giving me "Nickserv :Erroneous Nickname" messages.
[05:51] <EvilResistance> Israfel, you can't /nick to NickServ (its owned by a service and is reserved)
[05:51] <Israfel> I'm not trying to. I'm trying to enter my password.
[05:52] <Israfel> Using : /msg NickServ identify <password>
[05:52] <Israfel> Oh god, you're right
[05:52] <Israfel> I used /nick instead of /msg
[05:52] <bazhang> Israfel, /join #freenode for this
[05:53] <Israfel> Problem solved.
[05:53] <syn-ack> obelus, Can't say that I'm familiar with those. I used Tunnelbroker and they had their own thing that used openswan to build the tunnel, etc and all I had to do if I wanted to home to lan was just my ip tables.
[05:54] <obelus> syn-ack: Ah, okay. Maybe I should just try with a different broker then.
[05:54] <syn-ack> obelus, Try their tech support. I don't see why they wouldnt be able to help ya.
[05:55] <obelus> syn-ack: They possibly can, but I'm impatient and want to fix this myself =p
[05:55] <syn-ack> heh
[05:55] <syn-ack> More power to you.
[05:56] <ninja_> hello
[05:57] <syn-ack> Ooooooooh, methinks I'm beginning to like Gnome Shell on Multihead displays
[05:57] <obelus> syn-ack: When you say Tunnelbroker, you mean www.tunnelbroker.net? I have an account there, but don't see any tool or anything about openswan.
[05:59] <syn-ack> oh wow.
[06:00] <syn-ack> They seemed to changed things
[06:00] <syn-ack> This is the first time I've seen their site in like 4 - 5 years
[06:01] <syn-ack> obelus, Did you try this?
[06:01] <syn-ack> http://www.tunnelbroker.net/forums/index.php?topic=18.0
[06:01] <syn-ack> Anyway, that's really out of the scope of this channel, I just thought I'd help since it was intriguing enough to me. Sorry bazhang.
[06:01] <A|i3N> OK so I have a weird issue trying to install windows that I was trying to see if Linux will fix. lol. When trying to install windows 8, or 7, it's telling me that it cannot create a new partition or locate an existing one, even though winblows setup sees the drive just fine and will let me create and delete and format partitions. I have tried creating a new partition table with GParted with ubuntu live, but that did not help. Is there
[06:01] <A|i3N> clean the drive with?
[06:03] <obelus> syn-ack: Yeah, tried that. I'll keep going at it and see if I can fix it
[06:05] <A|i3N> ok let me rephrase my question: Can I zero out a drive in ubuntu live cd? It's giving me issues.
[06:07] <bazhang> A|i3N, sure, or with a gparted live cd (60 mb iso)
[06:07] <syn-ack> Nothing that a little dd can't fix
[06:08] <A|i3N> bazhang!! Hey!! hehe. How can I do it from the command line?
[06:08] <Pikkachu> where is stored the pub/priv PGP key created with the keyring gui tool?
[06:09] <bazhang> A|i3N, with dd ?
[06:09] <bazhang> A|i3N, fdisk? cfdisk ?
[06:11] <RajeevGEC> hello....How can i make the minimized windows show on the sys tary?
[06:11] <RajeevGEC> i use 11.04
[06:12] <A|i3N> ok can someone give me a basic command to use with dd to zero-write the primary hard disk? lol. I am unfamiliar with it.
[06:13] <A|i3N> I want it wiped to the point that windows setup won't argue with me. lol.
[06:14] <A|i3N> nm found it. lol
[06:15] <pkkm> A|i3N, why don't you just format it?
[06:16] <A|i3N> pkkm: Windows is reporting that it "cannot create a new partition of find an existing one" when trying to install. I think I need to zero it out; it has take 7 (and came with 7) in the past
[06:22] <ye> hello ! anyone can tell me how to convert a DMG image into ISO in Ubuntu?
[06:22] <bazhang> ye, mac software?
[06:22] <mr_gees100_peas> I'm having problem with video. It plays fine in youtube but choppy everywhere else. I tried flash-aid. using ubuntu11.10 gnme -shell
[06:23] <bazhang> ye whats the package
[06:23] <ye> bazhang: yes
[06:23] <ye> bazhang: i want install it in VMware
[06:23] <bazhang> ye, whats the package
[06:23] <ye> bazhang: n.. Mac OS X lion?
[06:24] <bazhang> ye, try in #vmware ? only the server is allowed that as far as I know, but you can ask them
[06:25] <ye> bazhang: OK. go there to ask....
[06:25] <pkkm> A|i3N, zeroing a partition won't make it NTFS. If I were you, I'd use gparted to delete the partition and make a new one.
[06:25] <Boneripper> hi all.. could someone please help me with ubuntu seeing my windows shares?
[06:28] <Boneripper> can anyone help me please
[06:29] <monday> Boneripper: what's the issue?
[06:29] <Boneripper> hi monday
[06:29] <monday> Boneripper: hi
[06:30] <Boneripper> i got a winxp machine that i got several shares setup
[06:30] <Boneripper> i cant see any of these shares on both my ubuntu laptops
[06:30] <monday> Boneripper: do you know their IP address?
[06:30] <Boneripper> yes
[06:31] <monday> Boneripper: OK wait one minute. I think I can help
[06:31] <syn-ack> Do you have "File and Printer Sharing" enabled on the wintendos?
[06:31] <syn-ack> That's where I'd start.
[06:31] <A|i3N> pkkm: The problem isn't making it NTFS - the problem is windows setup says "Cannot create new partition or locate an existing one" even though it will let me create, delete and format a new partition from within setup. I've tried making a new partition table from within gparted and letting windows do the rest, that did not help. This is why I am zeroing it out.
[06:31] <monday> Boneripper: try the following sudo apt-get install samba-common
[06:32] <monday> Boneripper: once you do that let me know.
[06:32] <syn-ack> And that's where I end since I can't stand Windows.
[06:32] <Boneripper> syn yes... i can see the same shares on one of the laptop that is a dual boot. so i can see the shares in win xp on the laptop but not from ubuntu
[06:32] <A|i3N> pkkm: And according to disk utility, the disk is healthy and I did a surface scan (quick) no problems there.
[06:33] <oddie> So I just updated and then it requred a reboot, I think im on 12.04, a few weeks ago I updated distro to the beta. now its not booting, getting stuck on mounting the cryptswap1. Ive pressed 'S' to skip the mount but nothing happends... any idea's?
[06:33] <monday> Boneripper: how is it comming?
[06:34] <Boneripper> monday wait please
[06:34] <monday> Boneripper: I forgot to tell you to execute that command in a terminal.
[06:34] <Boneripper> its already installed
[06:34] <kiama2005> I have recently installed Ubuntu 11.10 . When I type shift + @ I get  " and shift +"  Gives  @   any thoughts (newcomer)
[06:35] <monday> Boneripper: good, now open Nautilus
[06:35] <Boneripper> when i did smbclient -L "computername"
[06:35] <Boneripper> i got error nt_status_host_unreachable
[06:36] <Boneripper> nautilus? isnt that already open?
[06:36] <monday> Boneripper: for now use the ipaddress of the windows system.
[06:36] <monday> Boneripper: open the file browser or on the menu goto home folder.
[06:37] <monday> Boneripper: once there press ctrl+l and in the address type smb://[ipaddress]/[share]
[06:37] <Boneripper> places homefolder
[06:37] <DroidDev32> what would be more stable, the radeon 6770 proprietary drivers or whatever is installed by default
[06:37] <Boneripper> also when i put in the IP address it sees all the shares FINE
[06:37] <Boneripper> what the hell?
[06:37] <monday> Boneripper: you should get an authentication request.
[06:39] <r4y> Is anyone else having youtube videos sort of skip in a flittering like way?
[06:40] <themonitor> r4y: I always have issues with flash video, but I have a crappy video card.
[06:40] <Boneripper> monday.. it doesnt ask for authentication.. it opens the shares straight away!!
[06:40] <Boneripper> so why are my laptops not seeing the computer names?
[06:41] <r4y> No, because I just played a video I knew was OK and it didn't have that problem
[06:41] <monkeybox> fuk mu
[06:41] <r4y> I meant I had on my computer already
[06:41] <monday> Boneripper: then your good, depending on the share permissions you may get authentication request, also depends on the domain as well. I've seen it vary from windows OS as well win 7, win xp, win 2008, ..etc
[06:42] <Boneripper> so i have to do this everytime??
[06:42] <monday> Boneripper: not sure. are they all on the same workgroup?
[06:42] <monkeybox>  0fuck tha matrix!!!
[06:44] <monday> Boneripper: my win7 isn't on a workgroup so I have to do that each time.
[06:44] <Guest50255> why?
[06:44] <Boneripper_> ok sorry about that
[06:45] <Boneripper_> dont have any workgroup setup
[06:45] <monday> Boneripper_: not on my win 7 systems, they are on a domain.
[06:45] <monday> Boneripper_: what OS are the windows?
[06:46] <Boneripper_> ok so i still dont understand
[06:46] <Guest50255> Join the domain,to call admin
[06:46] <Boneripper_> you are saying that if i keep all my windows and ubuntu systems on the same workgroup name, then this issue will NOT happen?
[06:47] <monday> Boneripper_: No, I'm not sure if they are even on a workgroup. What OS are you connecting to?
[06:47] <Boneripper_> winxp to ubuntu
[06:47] <kingkatari> Ok i need help
[06:48] <Guest50255> whats up?
[06:48] <monday> Boneripper_: in nautilus do when you select Network you may see Windows Network
[06:48] <Boneripper_> nope. i already tried all that
[06:48] <monday> Boneripper_: and they may be under there.
[06:48] <Boneripper_> it just says cannot open the workgroup
[06:48] <Guest50255> me,understand what u said
[06:49] <kingkatari> I am trying to have someone connect to my system via ssh but no mater what i do they cant connect
[06:50] <monday> Boneripper_: what OS are you trying to connect to?
[06:50] <Boneripper_> ok thanks for your help monday
[06:50] <Guest50255> romete your Ubuntu?
[06:50] <anthropos> kingkatari, did you install the openssh server?
[06:50] <kingkatari> yes
[06:50] <kingkatari> I did install it
[06:50] <anthropos> kingkatari, is port 22 open?
[06:50] <Boneripper_> winxp to ubuntu 10.04
[06:50] <kingkatari> how do i check it
[06:50] <monday> Boneripper_: is it XP pro?
[06:50] <kingkatari> i am on ubuntu 11.10 desktop
[06:50] <anthropos> use netstat to verify your computer is litening on port 22, first
[06:50] <Guest50255> ssh or TTL (By windows)to concert your ubuntu?
[06:51] <monday> xp pro sp3?
[06:51] <anthropos> alternatively you can use nmap to scan yourself on port 22, and/or do the same from the remote host, kingkatari
[06:51] <Boneripper_> yes
[06:51] <kmahan> :help
[06:52] <monday> Boneripper_: OK right click my computer, then go to system name check and see if its on a workgroup.
[06:53] <Boneripper_> nope its not
[06:53] <Boneripper_> just the DEFAULT
[06:53] <monday> Boneripper_: I can't remember the exact steps to find out the computer name and if/what workgroup its on.
[06:53] <monday> Boneripper_: next this is probably an issue of win xp pro sp3 security.
[06:53] <Boneripper_> right ok
[06:53] <Boneripper_> anyways its a pain for the time being but i have a solution at elast
[06:53] <Boneripper_> least
[06:54] <Boneripper_> ok can i ask you my next question pelase
[06:54] <mukti> I just got a ubuntu vps running 10.04, and when I run apt-get install nano, it cannot find the package. Does anyone know why this is?
[06:55] <Boneripper> crap.. back again :)
[06:56] <mukti> Is this something I should contact my vps provider about?
[06:56] <Boneripper> monday still here mate?
[06:56] <monday> Boneripper: I'm still here.
[06:56] <Boneripper> btw, how the hell do i see the list of users on this room please?
[06:56] <Boneripper> never mind worked it out
[06:57] <monday> OK
[06:57] <Guest50255> the sources in the path:/var/lib/apt/lists/
[06:58] <Boneripper> monday how do i get rid of all the generic linux headers from my GRUB menu plesae
[06:59] <mukti> Guest50255: There is only an empty folder in there called "partial"
[06:59] <monday> Boneripper: I don't understand
[06:59] <Boneripper> ok when i boot the machine... i get presented with a GRUB menu
[06:59] <monday> Boneripper: OH OK I see what your talking about. Are those from updating your system?
[07:00] <Boneripper> its has several listsings .. and a lot of linux versions.. as in old versions
[07:00] <Guest50255> /var/lib/apt/archives
[07:00] <Boneripper> how do i get rid of this so it just shows the current version and my winxp options please
[07:01] <monday> Boneripper: You are dual booting?
[07:01] <Guest50255> if u run apt-get install ,download there
[07:01] <mukti> Guest50255: no archive directory either
[07:01] <Boneripper> yes
[07:01] <Guest50255> what s u os ?
[07:02] <mukti> ubutnu 10.04
[07:02] <monday> Boneripper: hold on a moment. Are you sure want to mess with grub? if things go wrong you will not be booting any system.
[07:03] <Boneripper> i dont think you understand or i aint explaining properly :)
[07:03] <Boneripper> wait one
[07:03] <mukti> Guest50255: just realized.... I might just need to run apt-get update...
[07:03] <Guest50255> ah...   do u run apt-get clean
[07:03] <mukti> Guest50255: sorry about that, I did just need to update -_-
[07:04] <monday> Boneripper: I understand what you want to do. But if you mess up your boot loader you're going to be in a world of hurt repairing it, specially since you are asking for help about it here.
[07:04] <mukti> Guest50255: clean?
[07:04] <mukti> do you mean without sudo?
[07:04] <Guest50255> no,if u do apt-get clean,the source is del
[07:05] <Boneripper> okies its all good.. there is another way through system administration menu
[07:05] <Guest50255> the paths will not any source-files
[07:05] <mukti> Guest50255: oh, I haven't run that before. Should I run that before updating?
[07:05] <Boneripper> then type the kernel version that i want to remove
[07:06] <monday> Boneripper: http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2011/09/25/how-to-change-boot-order-in-ubuntu-11-04/
[07:06] <Boneripper> so when you remove it through there, GRUB removes it automatically
[07:06] <Guest50255> no ,update only change the lists about webpage
[07:06] <dalek_> HI, how do you make changes to power settings in ubuntu 11.10 without changes being ignored?
[07:07] <mukti> Guest50255: so clean just removes source files?
[07:08] <dalek_> When I set power settings in 11.10 on laptop for lid closing to "do nothing", the screen still blanks like default. How do I make it NOT ignore my will?
[07:08] <mukti> Also, will apt-get upgrade make my system go past 10.04, or will it only update my packages?
[07:09] <Guest50255> to run apt-get clean,the path is nothing
[07:09] <mukti> Guest50255: I don't quite understand what you mean
[07:09] <Guest50255> maybe u should run apt-get reinstall install fileanems
[07:09] <themonitor> mukti: you can run update-manager -d to upgrade to 11.10
[07:10] <ssiie> is there any way to sync my desktop firefox password bookmakr etc to my laptop ?
[07:10] <mukti> themonitor: What if I want to keep it at 10.04, but just upgrade packages?
[07:10] <multiHYP> hi all
[07:10] <monser> does anyone use catfish?
[07:10] <monser> it does not find anything
[07:10] <multiHYP> I installed openJDK7 on 11.10 server and it must have been massive
[07:11] <multiHYP> is there anyway to reduce the size? because I need java to run jetty.
[07:11] <themonitor> mukti: apt-get upgrade will not move to the next version.
[07:11] <mukti> themonitor: ah, okay thanks
[07:11] <monday> Boneripper: basically you edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[07:11] <themonitor> mukti: you have to change your repos to move up versions.
[07:12] <monday> Boneripper: then update-grub
[07:14] <Boneripper> monday.. whats the actual command for updating-grub after the file has been modified please?
[07:14] <dalek_> Does anyone here know how to make changes to power settings in ubuntu 11.10 without changes being ignored?
[07:14] <monday> Boneripper: update-grub
[07:15] <aet> im trying to disable mirror display with my 2 monitors but its giving me this error:  required virtual size does not fit available size: requested=(3840, 1080), minimum=(320, 200), maximum=(1920, 1920)
[07:15] <dalek_> what is the name of the power management system app so I can run it from terminal as gksu?
[07:16] <Boneripper> thanks bud
[07:16] <monser> where is the usual plac for kernel headers?
[07:16] <monser> *place
[07:18] <Boneripper> Monday.. just doing the "Complete Removal" now.. see what happens.. will let you know
[07:18] <Fargh> good morning fellaś
[07:18] <monday> Boneripper: good luck
[07:18] <Boneripper> evening
[07:19] <waynewang> afternoon
[07:19] <foobArrr> how do I change title bar double click behavior with compiz?
[07:19] <mukti> Anyone have a guide for setting up fail2ban?
[07:20] <dalek_> is there anyway to get old gnome desktop back and get rid of unity? unity is slow and clumsy on my hardware.
[07:20] <auronandace_> !gnome2 | dalek_
[07:21] <foobArrr> !notunity
[07:21] <dalek_> !notunity
[07:21] <aet> [H] I'm trying to disable mirror display with my 2 monitors but its giving me this error:  required virtual size does not fit available size: requested=(3840, 1080), minimum=(320, 200), maximum=(1920, 1920)
[07:22] <foobArrr> dalek_: if you really want gnome 2 back, you can give mate desktop a try
[07:22] <dalek_> tried gnome-shell and gnome-session-fallback... it looks a bit like old gnome but isn't.
[07:23] <auronandace_> dalek_: gnome2 is dead, find an alternative
[07:23] <themonitor> dalek_: unity isn't that bad. What is it about gnome 2 you want to keep?
[07:24] <anthropos> there are extensions for gnome 3 that make it look basically just like gnome 2, if that's what you want.
[07:24] <dalek_> gnome 3 and unity seem to be only any use on high-end hardware. Gnome 2 ran fast and clean on my old laptop. Now it runs like windows.
[07:25] <auronandace_> dalek_: you want fast and light? try lxde
[07:25] <themonitor> dalek_: try xfce?
[07:26] <themonitor> dalek_: my favorite light weight WM has always been fluxbox.
[07:26] <dalek_> I feel like ubuntu is turning into Windows.... forcing me to buy the latest fastest hardware just to run the default desktop manager. :( I will give xfce and lxde a try.
[07:27] <Tiktalik> back from my voluntary exile. Did anyone miss me?
[07:27] <themonitor> dalek_: I have old crappy hardware and it runs fine for me
[07:27] <dalek_> themonitor, your old crappy hardware is obviously far superior to mine then.
[07:28] <themonitor> dalek_: I don't think it makes sense to expect ubuntu to keep to the LCD. They want to keep up with the latest tech.
[07:28] <themonitor> There are plenty of options for old HW. like our suggestions.
[07:30] <dalek_> one of the reasons I first turned to linux was because it ran well on almost any computer.
[07:30] <themonitor> dalek_: I don't mean to sound like i'm scolding you or anything. I've certainly had the same thoughts you have.
[07:30] <dalek_> I understand
[07:30] <themonitor> dalek_: The gap between crap HW and good HW keeps getting wider.
[07:31] <talespin_kit> how to find the baud rate used by usb modem
[07:32] <themonitor> dalek_: BTW like the nick :)
[07:34] <themonitor> dalek_: good with CMD line? if you don't mind mounting manually and doing lots of stuff from CMD line then fluxbox is great!
[07:35] <curiousx> ciao a tutti
[07:35] <themonitor> curiousx: my voice teacher tell me that all the time
[07:36] <themonitor> I don't know exactly what it means.
[07:36] <manali> how to install or enable wifi drivers on ubuntu 10.10
[07:36] <foobArrr> @gnome3: how do you get rid of those gigantic titlebars? why are they that big anyway?
[07:36] <curiousx> means "hello everybody"
[07:37] <themonitor> curiousx: sorry, she says bravo a tutti
[07:38] <curiousx> themonitor: http://translate.google.com/ significa "everything good"
[07:38] <themonitor> manali: you should check out google
[07:38] <dalek_> I think this laptop is about 10 years old... when did the toshiba Satellite M30 series come out?
[07:38] <chep> . H . E . L . L . O . #ubuntu . H . E . L . L . O .
[07:39] <themonitor> curiousx: neat!
[07:40] <manali> i google it.. bt hvnt find any useful stuff
[07:40] <themonitor> dalek_: I see cnet articles from 2003 on google
[07:41] <dalek_> themonitor, thats what I found too. So I reckon this must be at least 8 years old.
[07:41] <themonitor> dalek_: how much ram?
[07:41] <demonboy> hi guys so i am back (yet again) with a issue... i couldnt find the nvidia control panel on the new 12.04 LTS ubuntu version (ran it through command promt and got these warnings http://pastebin.com/8UxCG8FL) then when i try to save the x-config i get this error http://pastebin.com/p7JWu4ET ... i dont want to restart now because i am scared i will get my x settings messed up now
[07:42] <dalek_> themonitor, 1Gb
[07:42] <curiousx> manali: lspci | grep -i network
[07:42] <themonitor> dalek_: I have a dell inspiron B130 from that era. it works pretty ok even with kde.
[07:42] <manali> what it does?
[07:43] <curiousx> ouputs what is your wifi card
[07:43] <themonitor> dalek_: I am using slackware 13.37 on it. but ubuntu worked alright too
[07:44] <manali> i gt such output :- 01:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR5001 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
[07:44] <demonboy> hey curious u seemed real helpful yesterday would u know anything about my issue stated above?
[07:45] <anthropos> occasionally when running gnome-shell my text input will become EXTREMELY slow (5 + second delay), but the application picker, etc. is still very responsive and gnome-shell is not using a lot of cpu or memory. restarting gnome-shell does not fix it, but restarting the computer does
[07:45] <anthropos> anyone experienced this?
[07:45] <curiousx> manali: paste: ifconfig -a   here: http://paste.ubuntu.com
[07:46] <foobArrr> I just installed gnome-shell, but lightdm doesn't offer me a gnome3 session, only gnome classic. help?
[07:47] <Guest46594> hi everyone have installed ubuntu 11.10 in an acer aspire one model zg8. but wireless is disable although i enabled it with the switch. it has Atheros communication Inc. AR242x / AR542x Wireless network adapter. can smeone help me on this
[07:47] <demonboy> how do you address some one directly on here
[07:47] <foobArrr> do I need the whole gnome-desktop-environment package?
[07:47] <manali> i pasted the output.
[07:47] <themonitor> demonboy: <-- like this
[07:47] <demonboy> yes
[07:48] <demonboy> curiousx: http://paste.ubuntu.com/909791/
[07:48] <dalek_> demonboy, type the person
[07:48] <dalek_> demonboy, type the person's name first
[07:48] <demonboy> i did i think
[07:48] <themonitor> demonboy: try typing the first few letters then TAB
[07:48] <curiousx> manali: where? i didnt saw it
[07:48] <demonboy> the above paste is my current issue on ubuntu 12.04
[07:48] <themonitor> demonboy: what irc client you using?
[07:49] <manali> jus one sec.. i'l paste it again
[07:49] <demonboy> uhm... qwebirc
[07:49] <demonboy> the browser based one
[07:49] <curiousx> manali: the outputs of this command: ifconfig -a
[07:49] <manali> http://paste.ubuntu.com/909794/  see ths
[07:49] <themonitor> demonboy: ah I've never used it. I don't know if it has tab nick completion
[07:50] <demonboy> idk..
[07:50] <demonboy> i usually use my phone but it is broken atm (dropped in pool)\
[07:51] <demonboy> any who thts the least of my worries... i keep getting warnings when i try to save to x and im kinda worried to restart x now
[07:51] <arulmozhi> If i try to export a image as gif animation. I get this msg box. grayscale or indexed image?? I cannot save an rgb image as animation
[07:51] <demonboy> i am on 12.04 and trying to configure my 2 monitors
[07:51] <demonboy> and this is what i am getting http://paste.ubuntu.com/909791/
[07:51] <psycho_oreos> !12.04| demonboy
[07:52] <demonboy> ty oreos
[07:52] <arulmozhi> here is the dialog box:https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-8RhHhlyvRNI/T3f8k8QRXEI/AAAAAAAAASc/JpqQGYwljwg/s640/Screenshot.png
[07:52] <curiousx> manali: you wirless card is recognized just turn on the wirless card in some notebooks you have to push a button or a combination of keys
[07:53] <curiousx> manali: now paste: ifconfig
[07:53] <curiousx> or better paste: sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[07:54] <curiousx> if that last command gives you a  error, so, you have tu turn it on
[07:54] <curiousx> an* error
[07:56] <demonboy> curious when i have issues w/ wireless cards i use #airmon-ng start wlan0
[07:56] <demonboy> and if i get an error ik i need to configure it
[07:56] <demonboy> haha but i doubt he has aircrack installed
[07:57] <foobArrr> Is there a way to remap gnome3 key bindings? I've been using Alt+^ for quake-style terminals for years, I'd like to keep it that way. :/
[07:57] <Tradie96> I need help with the wubi install. This is the first time its stuffed up, and no matter how many tines I uninstall/reinstall, its does the same thing and won't let me continue with the installation after the reboot
[07:58] <monday> demonboy: some card will not work with airmon
[07:58] <manali> see the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/909806/
[07:58] <demonboy> the cards tht dont work w/ airmon-ng will usually work w/ airmon-zc
[07:58] <demonboy> but idk how far along zc is w/ dev
[07:58] <monday> demonboy: oooh that's good to know. thanx.
[07:58] <demonboy> yup
[07:58] <curiousx> manali: now: sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[07:59] <dalek_> ok.. what about my other question? How do I stop 11.10 ignoring settings I set for power management (lid close on AC set to do nothing, but instead, it blanks the screen)?
[08:00] <demonboy> well screw it... if x messes up i will just reinstall... ill brb i need to restart
[08:00] <dalek_> I loaded up dconf editer and that confirms that lid close on AC is set to "nothing" but is STILL blanks the screen on lid close.
[08:01] <themonitor> dalek_: I think that may be a hardware thing.
[08:01] <dalek_> themonitor, it worked fine in 10.10 (not sure about 11.04 - I skipped that release)
[08:02] <themonitor> dalek_: interesting
[08:04] <pfcode> hi
[08:04] <honvai> Hi
[08:04] <pfcode> lets check http://nowatapeta.pl D:
[08:04] <pfcode> :D
[08:04] <dalek_> another question... why is "lid-close-AC-action" and "lid-close-battery-action" in bold type in dconf-editor?
[08:05] <nithin_> honvai: hi
[08:05] <honvai> nithin_: hi
[08:06] <nithin_> which is the good version for my intel pc with 256 ram?
[08:06] <anthropos> can anyone think of a reason gnome 3 would become VERY slow to respond to text input, but everything else remains responsive. restarting gnome-shell does not fix it, but restarting the computer does
[08:07] <manali> no output for  $sudo ifconfig wlan0 up  :(
[08:08] <kingkatari> I am trying to have someone connect to my system via ssh but no mater what i do they cant connect
[08:08] <kingkatari> i am on ubuntu 11.10 desktop
[08:09] <themonitor> kingkatari: did you forward the ports in your router?
[08:09] <Kaco> kingkatari, ssh daemon is running? port 22 is accessible?
[08:09] <Kaco> yeah if using NAT, you need to forward port 22
[08:10] <curiousx> manali: now go at the wireless applet an conect to your LAN
[08:10] <curiousx> mantovani: at top right corner
[08:13] <kingkatari> forworded in router and ssh server is running
[08:14] <kingkatari> but still getting that port is closed
[08:14] <themonitor> kingkatari: I wish I knew more to help you
[08:14] <foobArrr> yet another gnome3 issue: the display settings don't work. I disable "Mirror displays", click apply and nothing happens, still mirrored displays. help?
[08:14] <multiHYP> kingkatari: firewall issue
[08:14] <kingkatari> brb checking something
[08:15] <multiHYP> not only INPUT or OUTPUT being blocked on your filewall, but also maybe FORWARD is blocked.
[08:17] <paulus68> hi
[08:17] <dalek_> another question... is there any magic button I can press in unity that will show all active windows on-screen (like when you click on  the workspaces button in the side bar thingy)?
[08:18] <jon13> any1 here have a working dell 370/broadcom 2046 bluetooth module in 11.10? My problem is that the module seems to be recognized, i can choose to turn on and off from the panel. The hardware led does not come on however, and if i enter settings it shows bluetooth disabled...
[08:19] <paulus68> I have squid installed how do I prevent showing that my servername and used port is mentioned when checking for example my ipadress?
[08:19] <manali> no output for  $sudo ifconfig wlan0 up  :(
[08:19] <curiousx> mantovani: do you see the network manager applet at top rigth corner?
[08:20] <curiousx> i mean manali
[08:20] <dalek_> Is there a button I can press which will show all windows like on OS X's Exposé key?
[08:21] <themonitor> dalek_: Win key + W?
[08:21] <Boneripper> monday.. you still around mate?
[08:21] <monday> Boneripper: I'm still here
[08:22] <monday> Boneripper: did you edid grub.cfg and it didn't save?
[08:22] <themonitor> dalek_: Does that work?
[08:22] <manali>  no output for  $sudo ifconfig wlan0 up  nw wat 2 do??
[08:22] <Boneripper> i cant get into the grub file at all
[08:22] <curiousx> manali: connect to your LAN
[08:23] <dalek_> themonitor, nice try.. that just types letter "w" on screen...
[08:23] <manali> then
[08:23] <Boneripper> whats the path for the grub file again mate?
[08:23] <themonitor> dalek_: weird, works for me.
[08:23] <Boneripper> its not under /etc
[08:23] <user82> hi i want to open a file with a custom app. now i did right click->properties->open with. in ubuntu 10.10 i could add a custom command..how can i do it in 11.10?
[08:23] <curiousx> then write the password and its done
[08:23] <dalek_> themonitor, maybe that key is disabled if runing 2D unity?
[08:24] <themonitor> dalek_: I was just going to ask that. lol
[08:24] <themonitor> dalek_: I think it might be a compiz hotkey
[08:25] <manali> connected to LAN bt still no output
[08:25] <Boneripper> monday??
[08:25] <monday> yeah
[08:25] <dalek_> themonitor, ...which would be stupid if that is the case, because I can still get all windows to show by clicking on the workspaces button on the side, then clicking one of the workspaces shows all windows in that workspace one one screen.
[08:26] <Boneripper> whats the command to edit the grub file please..
[08:26] <moes> Boneripper, what grub file do you need
[08:26] <Boneripper> tried both grub.d and grub.cfg
[08:26] <Boneripper> both dont exist
[08:26] <themonitor> dalek_: yeah, that would be.
[08:26] <monday> Boneripper: sorry, path is /boot/grub/grub.cfg however its usually not writeable so you have to change that.
[08:26] <curiousx> you want outouts or you wanna connect to your LAN with your wireless card?
[08:27] <monday> Boneripper: if you run update-grub it will certainly overwrite your changes.
[08:27] <Boneripper> ok please tell me how i can edit the crap out of it
[08:27] <moes> Boneripper, sudo gedit /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[08:27] <dalek_> themonitor, going to log back into unity 3D and see what happens.
[08:27] <themonitor> dalek_: yeah, let me know
[08:28] <monday> Boneripper: I use the following in a terminal -    cd /boot/grub/; chmod +w grub.cfg; emacs -nw grub.cfg; chmod -w grub.cfg
[08:28] <monday> Boneripper: but if you don't know what your doing you could seriously mess your system up.
[08:28] <Boneripper> okies i can see the file now....
[08:28] <Boneripper> ok so tell me another way i can get rid of those old kernels from the grub menu at the start up
[08:29] <moes> boneripper delete them in synaptic
[08:29] <fyrfaktry> guys, what's your preferred password manager?
[08:29] <themonitor> fyrfaktry: lastpass FTW!
[08:29] <moes> then run update-grub
[08:30] <Rydekull> SIYH 2.0 ftw
[08:31] <dalek_> themonitor, nope I just tried pressing windows key + w in unity 3d... still just types w's on screen.WWW
[08:32] <themonitor> dalek_: what the heck. works for me...
[08:32] <dalek_> themonitor, guess you are just lucky
[08:33] <themonitor> dalek_: I guess.
[08:33] <manali> plzz reply..
[08:34] <dalek_> themonitor, this is what happens for me - Pressing windows key makes the side bar thing slide out, and overlays a number or letter over each icon.
[08:34] <themonitor> dalek_: 11.10?
[08:35] <dalek_> themonitor, yes... and if I press the corresponding number or letter over the icon while holding down the windows key, that item is launched.
[08:35] <themonitor> dalek_: that's handy
[08:37] <dalek_> themonitor, and in my case, the "show workspaces" icon has an "s" overlayed on the icon, so pressing Win+s gives me "show all workspaces".. BUT this only works in unity 3d despite the show all workspaces function being available in unity 2d... stupid.
[08:38] <themonitor> dalek_: yeah, one of the many things I don't understand about unity. I think they'll work out many of the inconsistancies in the future. we just have to suffer through it. lol
[08:38] <themonitor> dalek_: I was messing with 12.04 and they've changes the way the sidebar works.
[08:39] <heliuscron> can the sidebar be put on the bottom?
[08:39] <darbe> my laptop is freeze "Stopping System V runlevel compability [10]"
[08:39] <darbe> how can I fix it
[08:39] <darbe> >
[08:39] <themonitor> heliuscron: never tried.
[08:39] <heliuscron> in 11 ?
[08:39] <monday> Boneripper: no clue
[08:39] <Boneripper_> ok thanks for your help anyways bud
[08:40] <monday> Boneripper: I just edit grub.cfg and don't update-grub. I make sure I don't delete I just comment out the menues I don't like.
[08:40] <dsafdsf> who is gardar
[08:41] <Boneripper_> well thats all i want to do really... just blank it out so it does NOT show up in the menu...
[08:41] <Boneripper_> so how do i do that then please
[08:41] <meet> is there any way to get the .deb files of packages installed through software center? i want to install them on an offline system.
[08:42] <llutz_> Boneripper_: create a /etc/grub.d/40_custom with the entries you want (take it from actual grub.cfg. then chmod -x the other *linux/*os-prober scripts
[08:42] <rumpe1> meet, they should be in /var/cache/apt/archives
[08:42] <user82> sorry for repeating myself..i could not find a solution
[08:42] <user82> hi i want to open a file with a custom app. now i did right click->properties->open with. in ubuntu 10.10 i could add a custom command..how can i do it in 11.10?
[08:43] <themonitor> meet: http://keryxproject.org/
[08:43] <meet> so will directly copying them on a flash drive and then double clicking them in the other system work?
[08:43] <themonitor> meet: yes but you have to make sure you get all the deps
[08:43] <manali> how to install/enable wi-fi on ubuntu 10.10
[08:44] <themonitor> meet: it can easily become a nightmare
[08:44] <themonitor> meet: I've never tried keryx. dont know if it works
[08:45] <meet> themonitor so is there any easy alternative? i have a very slow connection so downloading them all would be difficult
[08:45] <themonitor> meet: I would try keryx
[08:45] <llutz_> !offline | meet
[08:46] <themonitor> meet: ubottu's got the answer
[08:47] <meet> ok. thanks themonitor
[08:47] <meet> thanks llutz
[08:48] <themonitor> meet: wish I could be more help. lol
[08:49] <meet> for package installation i should use synaptic on that machine right? so is there any method to just download the dep and use the main .deb from the flash drive?
[08:50] <themonitor> meet: use syaptic on the machine with internet.
[08:50] <llutz_> on the machine WITHOUT internet
[08:50] <themonitor> yes... sorry
[08:51] <llutz_> meet: there you create a script, that you copy to the internet-machine and run. the resulting debs are to be transfered to the machine without internet and installed with sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[08:53] <manali> on system/administrator/additional drivers... there is no any wireless drivers specified... how to deal with it?
[08:53] <thechris> does anyone know how to use VIM's regex to change FNAME to the current file name without extenstion?
[08:53] <thechris> eg s/FNAME/?magic?/
[08:53] <sumit> any one is here
[08:54] <Guest32271> hi sumit
[08:54] <meet> thanks llutz got it. but still i want to use the existing .deb in var/cache/.../archives..
[08:55] <Marzata> how can you voice search in Google Maps Quest?
[08:55] <howoriginalAU> does anyone have any experience getting an AMD HD6770m to work properly with Ubuntu 11.10?
[08:56] <heliuscron> must be a way to put sidebar at bottom in 11.10
[08:56] <llutz_> meet: no problem, just make sure you copy all debs you need (depends/recommends)
[08:56] <howoriginalAU> It's a hybrid design with the intel HD 3000 on an i7, if that helps
[08:56] <sumit> hi guest32271
[08:56] <abhijit_> abhijit
[08:57] <sumit> how to install software from soure code
[08:57] <themonitor> howoriginalAU: http://askubuntu.com/questions/33605/can-i-move-the-unity-launcher
[08:57] <howoriginalAU> themonitor: ey?
[08:58] <howoriginalAU> I didn't ask that question sorry lol
[08:58] <manali> please reply...
[08:58] <themonitor> howoriginalAU: oops... sorry.
[08:58] <howoriginalAU> themonitor: no problem :)
[08:58] <themonitor> heliuscron: http://askubuntu.com/questions/33605/can-i-move-the-unity-launcher
[08:58] <themonitor> howoriginalAU: it's way passed my bedtime.
[08:59] <howoriginalAU> themonitor: lol yeah I can be like that!!
[08:59] <thechris> how can I run vim functions inside of s///
[08:59] <howoriginalAU> Does anyone know how I can tell which graphics card is currently being used?
[09:00] <howoriginalAU> I can't open the Catalyst control centre to look unfortunately
[09:00] <heliuscron> k
[09:01] <themonitor> howoriginalAU: dmesg? I'm guessing
[09:01] <howoriginalAU> well I gave that a go and it gave me a lot of device info but I don't know how to scroll up in terminal lol, do you know how?
[09:02] <themonitor> howoriginalAU: dmesg | more
[09:02] <themonitor> howoriginalAU: or dmesg | less
[09:03] <howoriginalAU> ah thankyou
[09:03] <themonitor> howoriginalAU: np
[09:03] <howoriginalAU> I'm attempting to completely replace windows with ubuntu
[09:03] <howoriginalAU> but unfortunately I have a stupid graphics system
[09:03] <howoriginalAU> which switches between dedicated AMD and an Intel HD
[09:03] <themonitor> howoriginalAU: I almost have, but I have to use quickbooks for work.
[09:04] <howoriginalAU> Quickbooks won't work through wine or playonlinux?
[09:04] <themonitor> howoriginalAU: It's important it works reliably
[09:04] <howoriginalAU> Ah true
[09:04] <sumit> and also visual studio does not work with wine
[09:05] <howoriginalAU> What about running it through virtualbox?
[09:05] <themonitor> howoriginalAU: I use virtualbox in ubuntu
[09:05] <howoriginalAU> ah
[09:05] <themonitor> haha
[09:05] <howoriginalAU> lol
[09:05] <howoriginalAU> sounds like you have it covered!
[09:05] <themonitor> howoriginalAU: you new to linux?
[09:06] <howoriginalAU> themonitor: not entirely new (I've distro-hopped a lot) but I'm not entirely familiar with commands and such
[09:07] <howoriginalAU> mainly because I've given up on things - spending more time on it would help me
[09:07] <howoriginalAU> but I want to make it look nice with conky and 3D effects
[09:07] <howoriginalAU> my patience has limits unfortunately, I'm no God hahaha
[09:07] <themonitor> howoriginalAU: I was in a bad car accident a few months ago and learned a lot. lol
[09:07] <howoriginalAU> oh really? I'm sorry to hear that
[09:08] <themonitor> I'm fine now, it was good in that I learn a lot of CMD line crap. lol
[09:08] <devslash> Does anyone use ubuntu on Android?
[09:09] <howoriginalAU> hahah well it is difficult to do it with full time work, I'll grant you
[09:09] <themonitor> howoriginalAU: yes!
[09:09] <howoriginalAU> brb, have to restart
[09:14] <howoriginalAU> themonitor: well that didn't go so well, I broke it hahaha
[09:14] <themonitor> howoriginalAU: I hate that!
[09:14] <Herpaderpa> I have copied my system to another drive, fixed the UUIDs etc, and the boot process hangs at: [ 4.162772] EXT4-fs (sda1): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode
[09:14] <Herpaderpa> it just hangs, no errors
[09:14] <Herpaderpa> any ideas?
[09:15] <howoriginalAU> themonitor: yeah I tried re-activating the ubuntu-suggest drivers - wouldn't start up or anything (not even in x or whatever it's called)
[09:15] <themonitor> Herpaderpa: backup home folder and reinstall
[09:15] <Herpaderpa> I really dont want to do that
[09:16] <howoriginalAU> Herpaderpa: haha I don't want to either but I have to now :(
[09:16] <themonitor> howoriginalAU: I know nothing about that
[09:17] <llutz_> Herpaderpa: start from a live-cd, check /etc/fstab and grub, rewrite grub
[09:17] <howoriginalAU> themonitor: it's cool I am just going to reinstall anyway
[09:17] <Herpaderpa> llutz_: did that
[09:17] <themonitor> howoriginalAU: the cureall
[09:18] <Herpaderpa> fstab has the correct uuid, grub is installed correctly or else it would even boot
[09:18] <Herpaderpa> wouldnt*
[09:18] <howoriginalAU> themonitor: indeed. It will be nice if somebody finds a fix one day (or AMD includes it in their linux drivers) for hybrid graphics
[09:18] <Herpaderpa> the kernel just hangs
[09:18] <llutz_> Herpaderpa: checked the "set root" lines in grub.cfg?
[09:18] <Herpaderpa> md5 of the kernel files on both drives is the same
[09:19] <Herpaderpa> there are no smart errors on either drive
[09:19] <howoriginalAU> I must admit it is shallow of me to want a pretty desktop haha
[09:19] <Herpaderpa> llutz: checking that now
[09:19] <themonitor> howoriginalAU: haha!
[09:19] <llutz_> Herpaderpa: compare with UUIDs from blkid
[09:20] <Herpaderpa> set root='(hd0,1)'
[09:20] <Herpaderpa> which is what it should be
[09:20] <Herpaderpa> uuid is correct
[09:20] <Herpaderpa> grub isnt even the problem
[09:20] <Herpaderpa> grub boots the kernel fine
[09:20] <demon> i dont have wi-fi on my ubuntu 10.10...how can i enable/install it??? please reply...
[09:21] <Myrtti> Herpaderpa: please don't use enter as a replacement for your broken comma
[09:21] <jiltdil> IS Amd gpu is better option for laptop having linux?
[09:21] <Herpaderpa> Myrtti: when I'm upset I get trigger happy
[09:22] <llutz_> Herpaderpa: yes and then it hangs. so it _might_ give a wrong "root" statement to the kernel
[09:28] <howoriginalAU> themonitor: I think I might have broken my windows install for good too - after testing recovery cd's to make sure they reinstalled windows
[09:29] <howoriginalAU> themonitor: I wiped the drive to install linux. now I'm trying to do another dual boot (reinstalling windows) and it won't do it hahahahahha. It's only a couple of months old this laptop as well. Well done me, well done
[09:29] <themonitor> howoriginalAU: wow...
[09:29] <howoriginalAU> themonitor: yeah I know, sucks right
[09:30] <dwatkins> howoriginalAU: did you install Windows after Linux?
[09:30] <themonitor> howoriginalAU: I wouldn't normally say this, but you could get a copy of windows...
[09:30] <themonitor> howoriginalAU: if you know what I mean ;)
[09:30] <howoriginalAU> themonitor: lol maybe not just yet!
[09:31] <themonitor> howoriginalAU: I mean you already bought it.
[09:31] <howoriginalAU> dwatkins: Nah what I'm doing is a clean install of windows first before reinstalling linux, but it won't do the windows part haha. Stuck on step 1! but that's not for this forum sorry, I'll keep it linux based :)
[09:31] <howoriginalAU> themonitor: haha I think it's ok, I can figure it out!
[09:32] <dwatkins> ah i see, howoriginalAU
[09:32] <themonitor> howoriginalAU: good luck to you!
[09:32] <howoriginalAU> dwatkins: thanks for the input though, appreciate you chiming in :)
[09:32] <relm> exit
[09:32] <relm> ;)
[09:33] <howoriginalAU> themonitor: cheers haha, I think I might have solved it anyway, HP did its driveguard thing for some reason and stopped the hard drive spinning, which caused the CD's to stop writing....
[09:33] <howoriginalAU> Ah computers...I probably shouldn't mention that I work with computers for a living lol
[09:33] <themonitor> howoriginalAU: weird
[09:34] <themonitor> howoriginalAU: haha!
[09:34] <Herpaderpa> what sucks is that dmesg is even written
[09:35] <Herpaderpa> isn't*
[09:35] <howoriginalAU> themonitor: all windows based unfortunately, no linux. I like Ubuntu, people seem to give it a bad rap but I like what you can do with it (you can probably do it all in Windows too but it seems to be easier in ubuntu)
[09:35] <themonitor> howoriginalAU: linux is way more fun!
[09:36] <howoriginalAU> themonitor: It is, I will agree
[09:36] <howoriginalAU> the only hard part is because I work with computers, most of the time I can't be bothered playing with them when I get home (unfortunately)
[09:37] <themonitor> howoriginalAU: yeah, that's one of the reasons I didn't want a computer job.
[09:37] <sh0ckw4ve> whaat , now why the heck did i join this channel
[09:37] <sh0ckw4ve> i dont even use bun too
[09:37] <howoriginalAU> rootworm: well maybe you just wanted to have a chat :)
[09:37] <themonitor> rootworm: drunk?
[09:38] <howoriginalAU> themonitor: "I can't drink because I've had too much to drive!!"
[09:38] <themonitor> howoriginalAU: haha!
[09:39] <multiHYP> i asked this a while ago, openJDK7 seems to be taking a lot of space. is there an alternative to run jetty and some simple java apps?
[09:39] <elky> Hi all, this appears to be a non-support conversation. It would be better off in #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:39] <howoriginalAU> elky: sorry, got carried away.
[09:39] <themonitor> elky: sorry
[09:40] <multiHYP> just don't DUI!
[09:40] <multiHYP> so how big is jdk7?
[09:40] <rootworm> kind of stoned
[09:40] <rootworm> heh as usual
[09:41] <rootworm> whats we tawkin bout
[09:41] <multiHYP> jdk7
[09:41] <multiHYP> is huge, isn't it?
[09:41] <rootworm> ooh right i want a card for me moms surprise gift item
[09:41] <elky> rootworm, chit-chat is better for #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:41] <rootworm> pls help
[09:41] <rootworm> kewl
[09:41] <rootworm> i didnt know it existed
[09:41] <rootworm> on my way ther now
[09:41] <multiHYP> wtf, i get anything except ubuntu discussion here?
[09:42] <llutz_> multiHYP: it's weekend, kids are only :(
[09:42] <elky> multiHYP, i'm trying to fix that.
[09:42] <multiHYP> oh i see
[09:42] <multiHYP> yeah weekend
[09:42] <JerryKwan> could anybody tell me the password of ubuntu image?
[09:42] <llutz_> online*
[09:42] <multiHYP> root
[09:43] <JerryKwan> multiHYP: roo??
[09:43] <multiHYP> is it possible to reduce the size of jdk7?
[09:43] <multiHYP> yes, try root JerryKwan
[09:43] <JerryKwan> multiHYP: root?
[09:43] <themonitor> multiHYP: delete it
[09:43] <multiHYP> themonitor: i need to be able to run jetty 8
[09:43] <multiHYP> so some kind of java is required.
[09:43] <themonitor> multiHYP: I was trying to be funny, sorry,
[09:43] <multiHYP> oh
[09:44] <multiHYP> i guess i am in weekend mode too
[09:44] <themonitor> time for bed. later everyone!
[09:45] <JerryKwan> multiHYP: sorry, i can not log in as ubuntu/root
[09:45] <multiHYP> JerryKwan: its your ubuntu, how are we supposed to know the password to it?
[09:45] <JerryKwan> i download the oneiric-desktop-cloudimg-i386 image from ubuntu
[09:46] <multiHYP> does it say anywhere on the site you got that image?
[09:46] <multiHYP> where did you get that image?
[09:46] <Fargh> hi fella's
[09:46] <JerryKwan> multiHYP:　from https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/oneiric/current/
[09:46] <Fargh> i have a small problem with ubuntu wireless
[09:47] <Fargh> its slow ...
[09:47] <multiHYP> why did you get it?
[09:47] <meet> will ubuntu 10..10will ubuntu 10..10 work better than winxp on 512 mb ram
[09:47] <Fargh> a ing to the router takes 1500ms on average
[09:47] <multiHYP> i mean its not the usual way of obtaining ubuntu
[09:47] <Fargh> if i use cable it is 0.5ms
[09:47] <JerryKwan> just for test in openstack env
[09:47] <multiHYP> meet: not anymore
[09:47] <Fargh> anyone ideas ?
[09:48] <Fargh> a ping to the router takes 1500ms on average
[09:48] <meet> multiHYP why?
[09:48] <multiHYP> oh 10 i am not sure, but latest version requires GPU
[09:48] <multiHYP> where as XP is still happy with integrated.
[09:48] <multiHYP> also this channel is ubuntu, anything windows please call your microsoft reseller
[09:49] <meet> ubuntu 10- i tried the live session and was impressed as it was better than xp but still after installing the  basic softwares will that also slow down?
[09:49] <multiHYP> no idea
[09:49] <multiHYP> if you are happy that I'm happy
[09:49] <multiHYP> *than
[09:49] <atomicity> hi everyone
[09:49] <Ebron> This is the weirdest thing, if I run 'du -sch *' from /home - I get a grand total of 33G for my home folder, but inside /home/myHomeFolder I get a grand total of 24G. I've lost 9G from a 60G disk. ubuntu 10.10. Any suggestions?
[09:51] <atomicity> I'm having a big problem installing ubuntu on an older laptop. I'm currently booted on an alternative install iso dd'd on a usb disk (actual disk, not flash). So, I boot, and then the 'detect and mount cdrom' step fails. What do I do?
[09:51] <JelloPop> Anyone try this new Distro AriOS in the past 30 days on distro watch it has moved to number 6 based on debian and Ubuntu?? Anyone play with it?
[09:51] <atomicity> (I should mention I'm at home with the terminal, so complex instructions are ok)
[09:51] <head_victim> atomicity: firstly, if the laptop really is older you might check to see it can even boot of USB.
[09:52] <multiHYP> is 11.10 coming with so much python crap or my cloud providers image is injected with it?
[09:52] <multiHYP> i see a lot of python packages
[09:52] <atomicity> head_victim: i've booted it from another iso, but couldn't install because of read errors on the medium.
[09:52] <heliuscron> can't seem to get spdif to show up as option in VLC, anyone had luck with it?
[09:53] <atomicity> head_victim: so yeah, it can boot the os (also, well within minimum specs)
[09:53] <JelloPop> atomicity: what are the specs for laptop! may want xubuntu
[09:53] <head_victim> atomicity: secondly check the ISO mdsum if you haven't already. If that come sup correctly I'd suggest using the USB creator to create it rather than dd, I've never had issues with the USB creator.
[09:53] <atomicity> JelloPop: 1.6GHz centrino, 2G ram, 80GB disk.
[09:54] <atomicity> JelloPop: and also, I'd just be happy with getting the commandline install currently, I plan on trying different window managers and seeing what works best.
[09:54] <madrazr> Hello everyone, I am Unity 2D on Ubuntu 12.04 Beta 2, this HUD thing comes up in a while when I try to change the windows by Alt+Tab
[09:54] <madrazr> this is pretty annoying
[09:54] <JelloPop> atomicity: what version of ubuntu are u trying to install?
[09:54] <madrazr> how do I make that not happen?
[09:54] <madrazr> can some one help me please?
[09:54] <head_victim> madrazr: 12.04 support is in #ubuntu+1
[09:55] <madrazr> head_victim: Ok cool!
[09:55] <atomicity> JelloPop: the is is 11.10-alternate-i386
[09:55] <madrazr> head_victim: thanks!
[09:55] <dalek_> after about 3 hours of searching for an answer on google, I've come to the conclusion that my problem in insolvable. This is exactly my problem, just a different brand laptop - https://lists.launchpad.net/desktop-packages/msg68795.html
[09:56] <dalek_> Anyone care to prove me wrong by finding a working solution? ;)
[09:57] <JelloPop> atomicity: I would go with xubuntu and just install the gnome desktop :) I'm not to happy with the idea of 11.10 but thats ur choice . md5 check..
[09:57] <atomicity> JelloPop: what's wrong with 11.10
[09:59] <atomicity> also, I can mount the usb by hand no problem from the shell the system boots into
[09:59] <atomicity> I think it's just the installer that expects me to be booting from /dev/sr0 and not from /dev/sdb
[09:59] <JelloPop> atomicity: meant ubuntu 10.04 lts next will be 12.04 lts
[10:00] <dalek_> what _isn't_ wrong with 11.10? ;) I've learnt that if anything (that worked in 10.10) can go wrong, it will in 11.10.
[10:00] <heliuscron> how can I get dts working with VLC in 11.10  anyone?  I'm using spdif out
[10:00] <atomicity> I'm sorry, I'm not a regular ubuntu user. I use archlinux :). It's just that for this laptop I wanted something supposedly hassle-free since it's not going to be a development machine.
[10:01] <JelloPop> atomicity: Good Luck.. ")
[10:01] <atomicity> So I don't really know anything about problematic versions etc.
[10:01] <JelloPop> atomicity: I use Linux Mint.. for hasslefree
[10:01] <atomicity> JelloPop: hm...
[10:02] <atomicity> JelloPop: did it get any better than it was 2 years ago? because back then I tried it and hated it.
[10:02] <JelloPop> atomicity: But, I dont consider either Ubuntu or Linux Mint are a bad choice
[10:02] <dalek_> I wish ubuntu developers wouldn't keep breaking everything each new edition :P
[10:03] <dalek_> so.. any takers on this problem? - https://lists.launchpad.net/desktop-packages/msg68795.html ?
[10:04] <JelloPop> atomicity: Oh, yes Linux Mint is lot more funcutional, but it supports gnome3 + mate... It is more like the old gnome 2 since LInux Mint annouced it would be working on the Nutmeg for Gnome 4 users have doubled over Ubuntu
[10:04] <BlouBlou> What's gnome 4?
[10:04] <fyrfaktry> april fool's joke
[10:04] <atomicity> JelloPop: first thing I'm doing is installing kde anyway :)
[10:05] <BlouBlou> oh ok :P
[10:05] <bodi> !mint
[10:06] <atomicity> thanks for the pointer, will try mint.
[10:06] <head_victim> atomicity: sorry, I had a look around and can find heaps on how to install to USB drive, not a lot on how to install FROM a usb drive.
[10:06] <JelloPop> bodi: thank u , but I get best advice from Ubuntu support.. Not a great deal has changed bewteen Ubuntu and Linux Mint... Just a small desktop and few command line choices not much at all
[10:06] <Onkeltem> Hi all. I have installed Ubuntu on a laptop with E240 AMD CPU. Now Ubuntu works VERY slow. Any ideas?
[10:06] <head_victim> JelloPop: you do realise this is #ubuntu and not #mint right?
[10:07] <bodi> i was just looking for mint channel myself  sorrywas not meant to anyone else
[10:07] <atomicity> head_victim: yeah... I couldn't find anything related to how one can install manually
[10:07] <Steevca> What is the recomended  system req. for ubuntu 12.10 ? Are they out yet?
[10:07] <JelloPop> head_victim: Oh yes and I seak ur advice her before I go to al lot of channels expect arch linux...
[10:08] <Marzata> how can you voice search in Google Maps Quest?
[10:08] <atomicity> head_victim: If I can just avoid the installer altogether I'd probably be happiest :)
[10:08] <Myrtti> Marzata: how is this Ubuntu related?
[10:08] <Marzata> !quest
[10:08] <Marzata> Myrtti: I run it on *Ubunutu.
[10:09] <JelloPop> celthunder: thanks again for showing me xmonad :)
[10:09] <Myrtti> Marzata: I use my Ubuntu to view knitting blogs, I still don't expect instructions on fair isle knitting from this channel
[10:09] <atomicity> head
[10:09] <atomicity> head_victim: lol
[10:10] <atomicity> head_victim: rm /dev/sr0; ln -s /dev/sdb /dev/sr0
[10:10] <atomicity> it worked.
[10:11] <rootworm> wow
[10:11] <rootworm> i didnt know tht
[10:11] <rootworm> now why would i want a magnetic card reeder on my linux boxen
[10:11] <rootworm> iDeal
[10:12] <rootworm> copy right this shit
[10:12] <bodi> so are you going to lift my ban Myrtti > Please
[10:14] <Myrtti> bodi: evading a ban doesn't make it go away faster
[10:20] <JelloPop> good night all time to play with AriOS
[10:22] <Marzata> Myrtti: it is you, some ppl expect.
[10:23] <jetty> How to ignore these "joined: #xxxxxx" & "left #xxxxx" ? Thanks
[10:23] <paulus68> I have squid installed how do I prevent showing that my servername and used port is mentioned when checking for example my ipadress?
[10:23] <dsafdsf> exit
[10:24] <rootworm> hmmm
[10:25] <ourewre> names
[10:26] <BlouBlou> jetty: It depends. What irc client are you using?
[10:26] <BassT> Hello!
[10:26] <rootworm> BassT:
[10:27] <rootworm> hi
[10:27] <hansg01> someone facing problems with latest flash updates?
[10:27] <BassT> I've got a problem with java: "
[10:27] <BassT> Error occurred during initialization of VMToo small initial heapRestarting..." Any idea?
[10:27] <Xabster> jetty, you right click the channel in the left side, settings->hide stuff
[10:28] <Myrtti> Marzata: they are wrong
[10:29] <heliuscron> whats a good util to mount iso in ubuntu
[10:29] <Name141> if you apply updates for a flash drive made by Unetbootn, would those updates come in the installer (packages already updated) or would you have to reinstall the updated packages once actually installed ?
[10:29] <atomicity> heliuscron: mount
[10:29] <hansg01> heliuscron: for which platform?
[10:30] <atomicity> heliuscron: you just mount -o loop isofile target_directory
[10:30] <heliuscron> not sure
[10:30] <atomicity> heliuscron: you don't need a utility, it's built into the operating system
[10:31] <kelvinella> which channel is proxy server channel?
[10:31] <Marzata> Myrtti: no right and no wrong
[10:31] <atomicity> kelvinella: depends on what software you are using.
[10:32] <kelvinella> i mean which channel in this server will chat about proxy?
[10:32] <kelvinella> i am in china now and i dont have facebook connection
[10:32] <LjL> Marzata: this channel has a specific topic, you can't just talk about anything to do with computers, even if you're running Ubuntu. please use #ubuntu-offtopic for topics that are not inherent to Ubuntu technical support.
[10:32] <kelvinella> i need a server that allows me to check facebook
[10:33] <anand> hello i accedently deleted a folder last night is there any way i can rcover that? any help will be great
[10:33] <LjL> kelvinella: in any case, it'd be very insecure to give your Facebook username and password to an untrusted proxy server.
[10:33] <kelvinella> if anyone of you can give me a proxy that i can goto facebook
[10:33] <drake01> kelvinella: use tor
[10:34] <kelvinella> tor?
[10:34] <LjL> kelvinella: please keep in mind that what i said is (very) valid for Tor. it's dangerous to give Tor passwords.
[10:34] <lol_no_u> LjL: lol wot
 Thanks . Let me find these settings.
[10:35] <LjL> lol_no_u: yes?
[10:35] <drake01> search for tor in some search engine, get the tor browser bundle working on your machine and there you go.. (I am not sure about china. It should work there too)
[10:35] <anand> hello i accedently deleted a folder last night is there any way i can rcover that? any help will be great
 Done.
[10:35] <atomicity> anand: did you delete it with rm or threw it in the trash? :)
[10:35] <philinux> anand: did you use shift delete
[10:35] <lol_no_u> anand:  depends on your fs
[10:36] <paulus68> I have squid installed how do I prevent showing that my servername and used port is mentioned when checking for example my ipadress?
[10:36] <atomicity> anand: it certanly is possible to recover files, but it's hard and I've never done it successfully.
[10:36] <drake01> LjL: Tor is open source. You know that right!
[10:36] <LjL> drake01: ... and?
[10:36] <anand> atomicity: shift+del
[10:36] <atomicity> paulus68: I don't think that's possible with just squid.
[10:36] <atomicity> anand: you're fucked.
[10:36] <LjL> drake01: surely you're aware that Tor uses untrusted servers all over the world to work.
[10:36] <anand> atomicity: looks like i am..
[10:37] <philinux> anand: Have you used the machine since
[10:37] <LjL> drake01: i could set up my own Tor exit node right now and sniff the passwords of those using it
[10:37] <atomicity> anand: if you don't mind throwing a lot of your life away you can probably get it back by using something like undelete
[10:37] <ssl_> julian du sßw
[10:37] <lol_no_u> anand: go google this, there are chances you're not screwed
[10:37] <LjL> !language | atomicity
[10:37] <ssl_> julianm
[10:37] <anand> philinux: no thats why i think it's possible to recover
[10:37] <drake01> LjL: and the tor uses ssl layer to transport your data to the end server using https everywhere thing integrated in tor browser bundle..
[10:37] <atomicity> LjL: sorry, should have read the guidelines
[10:37]  * atomicity goes read the guidelines.
[10:38] <philinux> anand: Use a livecd / usb and install testdisk, then use photorec
[10:38] <paulus68> atomicity: isn't it possible to tell squid not to show "servername:xxxx" throughout the config of squid
[10:38] <lol_no_u> LjL: you can't sniff passwords if it's ssl over tor
[10:38] <anand> philinux: but photorec can recover image files only
[10:38] <atomicity> paulus68: as far as I could understand him he wants to go to something like whatsmyip.com and not see his ip/port
[10:39] <lol_no_u> oh
[10:39] <atomicity> paulus68: but I could be totally wrong.
[10:39] <philinux> anand: not true I used it to recover mp3 files and otheres
[10:39] <anand> philinux: ok what exactly i have to do
[10:40] <paulus68> atomicity: if I go to whatismyip.com I see my IP adress but it mentions also possible proxy with the name and port of squid I want this to be hidden?
[10:40] <LjL> lol_no_u, drake01: sure, if the site supports HTTPS and you're using the bundle or otherwise connecting through HTTPS, that'll be true. thanks for pointing it out.
[10:40] <philinux> anand: You'll have to read up I'm afraid. Photorec is part of testdisk so install testdisk from livecd. http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec
[10:41] <Myrtti> hay guise, can we please take the discussion about tor and the security of it elsewhere, or atleast give others who need assistance with Ubuntu some space to breathe?
[10:41] <drake01> LjL: You are welcome
[10:41] <anand> philinux: testdisk is already installed
[10:41] <philinux> anand: You'll need to point it at a spare partition or external drive etc to recover file to.
[10:41] <jetty> anand use testdisk
[10:41] <jetty> http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
[10:41] <anand> philinux: thanks i am going to do that
[10:42] <philinux> anand: Use google and research photorec
[10:42] <anand> thanks
[10:42] <atomicity> paulus68: I have no idea how to do that and this is not the channel. Ask in squid's channel.
[10:42] <drake01> Myrtti: Yeah why not.. What do you want to discuss..
[10:42] <DoctorD> WOOOT: GOOGLE FIBER http://www.google.com/fiber/kansascity/index.html
[10:42] <paulus68> atomicity: do you know the squid channel?
[10:43] <philinux> anand: good info scattered about here. http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=86017259
[10:43] <Myrtti> philinux: please in the future don't just tell people to google...
[10:44] <atomicity> paulus68: no, I've never used squid.
[10:44] <philinux> Myrtti: I didnt I said specific search for photorec
[10:44] <paulus68> atomicity: ok thanks
[10:44] <philinux> Myrtti: There are too many hits on page one anyway
[10:45] <paulus68> j /#squid
[10:46] <amanfromtheinter> hello. i am using filezilla to download ftp directory. firstly it is slows down after MLSD, later disconnects and says "I can't accept more than 16 connections as the same user". under windows downloads normally.
[10:47] <_k2s_> hi all! Im using ubuntu and wanna restore my databases from a backup. What wariable should i write instead of the datebase name (mysql -h localhost -u root -p [name of the database] < sqldump.sql)
[10:48] <Myrtti> philinux: noted, accept my apology
[10:48] <heliuscron> so how do I mount an iso then
[10:48] <heliuscron> w/o have to type a long command
[10:48] <atomicity> _k2s_: ask in #mysql?
[10:48] <philinux> Myrtti: No worries ;)
[10:48] <ocx> hi guys
[10:48] <Zx432> Hi
[10:48] <Boneripper_> still here Monday
[10:49] <kj_> hi
[10:49] <kj_> jest tu jakis polak?
[10:49] <Myrtti> !pl | kj_
[10:49] <ocx> i am trying to set my box as a wifi client to connect to my wireless network but the box is already preconfigured to act as an AP, how can i disabled the AP mode and make my wifi card act as a client?
[10:49] <_k2s_> atomicity, i tried but noone answers so i thought maybe here someonw knew
[10:49] <atomicity> _k2s_: I wanted a ford but there was noone at the ford shop so I came to the porshe shop.
[10:50] <Zx432> What opens x-executable files?
[10:50] <atomicity> _k2s_: plus, you may be asking the wrong question
[10:50] <atomicity> Zx432: um.. you *run* them.
[10:50] <Zx432> It won't run
[10:50] <atomicity> Zx432: then open them with your favorite text editor and look at the 1st line
[10:50] <_k2s_> atomicity, understand your point
[10:51] <atomicity> you might have to set the +x bit though
[10:51] <atomicity> chmod +x filename
[10:51] <bigkitty> hi all
[10:51] <bigkitty> what i can do after i run C^B q on tmux?
[10:51] <atomicity> _k2s_: for instance, I didn't even understand what you meant, there was no variable in your query
[10:53] <atomicity> heliuscron: just use the commandline, you need to be root to mount isos anyway
[10:53] <atomicity> heliuscron: and it's not that much of a hassle, really. If you want can rewrite it :)
[10:53] <heliuscron> the internal right click function to mount iso isnt work, it shows the mount but cant see any files inside
[10:54] <atomicity> heliuscron: internal right click of what? Nautilus?
[10:54] <_k2s_> atomicity, i just wanna migrate db from one ubuntu to other :) maybe i just asked wrong as you said..
[10:55] <heliuscron> right click iso, mount with archive mounter is what i see
[10:55] <atomicity> _k2s_: go to #mysql, and ask how to do that. Someone will be glad to help you. You question might have been too specific. For instance, I would ask in the following way:
[10:55] <heliuscron> mounts it under network
[10:55] <zarex> can anyone help, I have just installed some updates for 11.10 and now my multi monitors dont work, I get this requested position/size for CRTC 148 is outside the allowed limit: position=(1280, 0), size=(1280, 1024), maximum=(1920, 1920)  Is there a way to increase my virtual screen size why did this break as part of an update?  any help would be apprciated I've googled loads and no one seems to know
[10:55] <zarex> ATI graphics 3 monitors, worked fine before update
[10:55] <heliuscron> i have no idea how to use command to do it
[10:55] <atomicity> _k2s_: "I have a dump of my database in an .sql file. How can I restore that database to another machine with a running mysql server?"
[10:56] <atomicity> heliuscron: press alt+f2
[10:56] <atomicity> type in gnome-terminal
[10:56] <zarex> I wonder where 1920x1920 came from I've tried to change in xorg.conf and didnt work
[10:56] <atomicity> and press enter.
[10:56] <heliuscron> type what
[10:56] <_k2s_> atomicity, thanx mate :)
[10:56] <atomicity> _k2s_: np
[10:57] <Zx432> I should see the code using gedit right?
[10:57] <Zx432> Because it chrashes
[10:57] <zarex> has anyone else had this problem where an update messes up their monitors?
[10:57] <atomicity> Zx432: i'd use vim, but yeah.
[10:57] <Zx432> I'll try vim
[10:57] <zarex> I dont get where 1920x1920 limit came from, how do I change the virtual limit?
[10:58] <zarex> requested position/size for CRTC 148 is outside the allowed limit: position=(1280, 0), size=(1280, 1024), maximum=(1920, 1920)
[10:58] <heliuscron> assume I know nothing cuz i dont
[10:58] <zarex> I've google loads and nothing works
[10:58] <atomicity> heliuscron: when the black window appears, type in mkdir myiso
[10:58] <atomicity> and press enter.
[10:59] <atomicity> and then sudo mount -o loop /path/to/your/iso/file.iso myiso
[10:59] <atomicity> the iso should be mounted in the myiso directory
[10:59] <atomicity> you can access it with nautilus
[10:59] <atomicity> or any filemanager afterwards.
[11:00] <zarex> I dont get it, all I did was apply an update and now I have no multi monitor setup, none of the blogs explain the problem and I cant get help here?
[11:00] <opalepatrick> been trying to set up backintime as another backup but keep getting  - Snapshots folder is not valid - I already use deja-dup same ext hard drive no problem.
[11:00] <opalepatrick> any ideas?
[11:01] <atomicity> heliuscron: did you manage it? if you got stuck you should tell me.
[11:03] <atomicity> zarex: it might be you are not using the right driver
[11:03] <atomicity> zarex: because non-optimized drivers might have the limit because of performance.
[11:04] <zarex> hi atomicity, thanks for an answer, I've got the right driver from ati, I've installed the manager which doesnt work, I've tried loads of things,
[11:04] <atomicity> zarex: are you sure you are *using* the driver?
[11:04] <zarex> so why was this working and then I did an update and it breaks?  I can do some tests if you ask me what to type in terminal?
[11:05] <atomicity> zarex: the first and easiest test is to run glxgears and see the framerates
[11:05] <zarex> does xorg.conf work on 11.10 cause it wasnt there until I install ati manager
[11:05] <zarex> glxgears from terminal?
[11:05] <atomicity> zarex: but it's probably best to check with glxinfo
[11:05] <atomicity> zarex: yeah, both.
[11:05] <zarex> 4190 frames in 5.0 seconds = 837.873 FPS
[11:05] <zarex> and I saw the gears
[11:06] <zarex> glxinfo dumps loads of stuff
[11:06] <atomicity> zarex: ok, so glx works, try glxinfo and see the first few lines
[11:06] <Ben64> seems low...
[11:06] <atomicity> zarex: on the first few lines there should be a driver ide
[11:06] <Ben64> 111128 frames in 5.0 seconds
[11:06] <zarex> lspci | grep VGA
[11:06] <zarex> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Manhattan [Mobility Radeon HD 5430 Series]
[11:06] <dalek_> hey... does anyone know, is there ANY in car GPS nav unit that will work "out of the box" in Ubuntu? Or, failing that, a unit that could be have linux GPS software over-write the existing GPS software and be able to use map data fro source like open street map project or similar?
[11:06] <zarex> i'll have a look
[11:07] <dalek_> from*
[11:07] <zarex> name of display: :0.0
[11:07] <zarex> display: :0  screen: 0
[11:07] <zarex> direct rendering: Yes
[11:07] <zarex> server glx vendor string: ATI
[11:07] <zarex> server glx version string: 1.4
[11:07] <zarex> server glx extensions:
[11:07] <zarex>     GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap,
[11:07] <zarex>     GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_OML_swap_method,
[11:07] <Ben64> zarex: use a pastebin
[11:07] <zarex>     GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGI_swap_control, GLX_SGIS_multisample,
[11:07] <zarex>     GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_SGIX_pbuffer, GLX_SGIX_visual_select_group
[11:07] <zarex> client glx vendor string: ATI
[11:07] <zarex> client glx version string: 1.4
[11:07] <zarex> client glx extensions:
[11:07] <zarex> any good?
[11:07] <amanfromtheinter> i am trying to download ftp directory. tried nautilus, filezilla and wget. all of them connect, but when downloading directory say connection refused.
[11:07] <zarex> whats a pastebin?
[11:07] <Ben64> !pastebin
[11:07] <zarex> sorry new to this will do
[11:08] <dalek_> is imagebin new?
[11:08] <Ben64> dalek_: you could use a usb serial gps receiver
[11:09] <vinesh> need some help guys, installed ubuntu 11.10 on my laptop. I also have windows. My wife is extremely slow on ubuntu ...what should i do ..
[11:09] <atomicity> zarex: ok, so you are using the right driver :)
[11:09] <dalek_> Ben64, what is a serial GPS receiver? Is that a device which requires to be plugged into a computer to work? I am thinking more along the lines of a complete device that can connect to a computer for updates/mods then will also work stand alone in a car.
[11:10] <atomicity> zarex: but next time, post into something like pastebin.com
[11:10] <Ben64> dalek_: then how does that relate to ubuntu?
[11:10] <zarex> sorry here some more info http://paste.ubuntu.com/909963/
[11:10] <Xabster> vinesh, upgrade your wife's RAM
[11:10] <vinesh> *wifi
[11:10] <vinesh> hahaha sorry typo
[11:10] <Xabster> haha
[11:10] <JermB0b> anyone know how to back scroll in irssi without page up and page down buttons ?
[11:11] <dalek_> Ben64, the part where it connects to an ubuntu PC and can talk with it directly, without having to go through virtualbox or wine....
[11:11] <zarex> do you know where the limit is set as I know the hardware and the drivers work before, so if I can just get around this limit
[11:11] <Ben64> dalek_: many of them just require maps on an sd card, so it wouldn't matter what system it is
[11:11] <zarex> atomicity: do you know where the limit is set as I know the hardware and the drivers work before, so if I can just get around this limit
[11:12] <darksifer> Xabster, upgrade wife's RAM!!! LOL
[11:12] <zarex> atomicity: I thought it was xorg.conf but that doesnt seem to be doing anything
[11:12] <atomicity> zarex: does ati have a control panel?
[11:12] <Xabster> :D
[11:12] <atomicity> zarex: because all of this should be settable without restarting X
[11:12] <atomicity> zarex: try with xrandr
[11:13] <kcrothers> this may be an easy question as I am just learning to use bash. I am having difficulty editing via gedit a file that I created via bash. permissions appear to be set correctly. I can add lines via bash. "could not create a back up file while saving ...". of note, the file doesn't open in gedit when doubleclicked. other txt files in the dir that I didn't create do. type is plain text document. thanks for your consideration.
[11:13] <vinesh> anyone here managed to solve ubuntu 11.10 wifi problem.. ?
[11:14] <DoctorD> @ vinesh - you should installed 10.04 and wait for 12.04 :P
[11:14] <DoctorD> they are LTS
[11:14] <dalek_> Ben64, ah ok... I don't suppose you'd know what type of format the average GPS unit would take for maps?
[11:14] <zarex> atomicity: ati has a ui interface I've tried changing settings and doesnt work.  xrandr whats that? without restarting x, you mean get rid of xorg.conf maybe?
[11:14] <zarex> atomicity: shouldnt xorg.conf my virtual settings override this and fix the problem?
[11:15] <Zx432> yo know that file I was asking about? The x-executable one?
[11:15] <atomicity> zarex: no, xorg.conf just sets the defaults.
[11:15] <zarex> atomicity: I've heard I should get rid of xorg.conf and reboot but just not confident about that
[11:15] <atomicity> Zx432: yeah...
[11:15] <dalek_> guess not.
[11:15] <Zx432> If I omen it in vi I get a bunch of strange signs mostly @
[11:15] <Zx432> *open
[11:15] <zarex> atomicity: oh okay, so there is no way to change this limit?
[11:15] <atomicity> zarex: well... maybe you should just move it.
[11:15] <atomicity> zarex: I have no idea, I've been on nvidia all my life
[11:15] <vinesh> appreciate some help guys
[11:16] <heliuscron> how do i get root
[11:16] <Zx432> But I am noob so I might have done something wrong
[11:16] <atomicity> heliuscron: sudo su
[11:16] <atomicity> Zx432: it seems it's not a script.
[11:16] <atomicity> Zx432: that's ok.
[11:16] <heliuscron> damnit were's termianl
[11:18] <atomicity> heliuscron: alt+f2, gnome-terminal, enter.
[11:18] <vinesh> help help ... with ubuntu wifi ....extremely slow ... help
[11:18] <atomicity> heliuscron: i'm sorry i'm dragging you through the terminal, but that's the easiest way to help over irc.
[11:18] <zarex> atomicity: not really sure what to do, a recent ATI graphics card, a decent machine, I do one simple update and lose all my monitors, not a great experience.
[11:19] <heliuscron> trying to use the gmount to mount a simple iso
[11:19] <heliuscron> giving errors
[11:19] <atomicity> heliuscron: what errors.
[11:19] <zarex> anyone using ATI gtraphics and updated recently and now doesnt have multiple monitors????
[11:20] <Zx432> So now what? :)
[11:20] <heliuscron> pixmap
[11:21] <atomicity> heliuscron: what?
[11:21] <heliuscron> whats the command to mount iso then
[11:21] <atomicity> heliuscron: mount -o loop isofile folder
[11:21] <atomicity> and you have to be root
[11:21] <atomicity> or put sudo in front of that
[11:22] <heliuscron> i need a graphical interface
[11:22] <heliuscron> im using Gmount but get a pixmap error
[11:22] <atomicity> heliuscron: I hope someone else can help you with that, I never use graphical interfaces.
[11:24] <vinesh> CAN ANYONE HELP ME WITH UBUNTU 11.10 WIFI PROBLEM
[11:24] <atomicity> vinesh: obviously not, since nobody answered
[11:24] <heliuscron> how can I become superuser
[11:25] <LjL> !sudo | heliuscron
[11:25] <Zx432> what is a pypar2 program?
[11:25] <zarex> can anyone help with ATI graphics was working, did update today now I have 1 monitor instead of three
[11:25] <zarex> requested position/size for CRTC 148 is outside the allowed limit: position=(1280, 0), size=(1280, 1024), maximum=(1920, 1920)
[11:25] <philinux> heliuscron: With lots of practise
[11:25] <zarex> but I need to changte the limit 1920x1920 or figure out where it came from as all worked fine yesterday
[11:25] <heliuscron> i looked up this pixmap error says I need ot be superuser
[11:25] <zarex> this is when I try an enable the second monitor
[11:26] <Halitus> hey all, why do some of my scripts send me an email with anything they "echo" I have a backup script in my crontab which sends me an email each time it runs (via ssmtp)
[11:26] <atomicity> heliuscron: use gsudo.
[11:26] <philinux> I think he means gksudo
[11:26] <atomicity> philinux: thanks for the correction.
[11:27] <heliuscron> i want to use this Gmount program
[11:27] <heliuscron> not terminal
[11:27] <atomicity> heliuscron: you have to run gmout as the super user
[11:27] <heliuscron> how
[11:27] <atomicity> heliuscron: with bloody gksudo :)
[11:28] <heliuscron> assume I know nothing
[11:28]  * atomicity should stop talking.
[11:28] <heliuscron> total noob
[11:28] <LjL> heliuscron: type gksudo gmount in a terminal or in alt+f2
[11:28] <zarex> does anyone use ATI graphics and updated their ubuntu today as I did an now I have lost my multi monitor setup?
[11:28] <buiss> heliuscron, ALT+F2 gksu gmount
[11:28] <Total_Oblivion> hello! can anyone recommend a good movie/anime etc viewer? i am using windows so i just dl packages... thanks!
[11:28] <zarex> come on someone must know aout xorg ATI and graphics?
[11:29] <zarex> I love ubuntu but doing an update should not break my display setup
[11:29] <Xabster> zarex, which version of the driver?
[11:29] <atomicity> zarex: try in #xorg
[11:29] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: I use mplayer
[11:29] <zarex> Xabster: ATI Technologies Inc Manhattan [Mobility Radeon HD 5430 Series]
[11:29] <Total_Oblivion> atomcity: where do i get it?
[11:29] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: but I have no idea what you mean with you are using windows, since if you were using ms windows this is not the place.
[11:29] <heliuscron> asked for password
[11:30] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: apt-get install mplayer
[11:30] <heliuscron> then nothing comes up
[11:30] <zarex> #xorg
[11:30] <LjL> heliuscron: are you sure the program's name is actually "gmount"? you need to put the correct command name
[11:30] <LjL> heliuscron: isn't it "gmountiso" perhaps?
[11:30] <MonkeyDust> !info gmount
[11:30] <Total_Oblivion> atomcity: well.. I'm kinga getting bored of windows and i want something better... i'm getting bored of getting everything done by clicking and having no idea what is being done :P
[11:30] <DMJC> does anyone know howto make ubuntu boot/run X without a GPU?
[11:30] <MonkeyDust> !info gmountiso
[11:31] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: by 'windows' you mean 'gnome'?
[11:31] <Wingede> anyone use empathy as irc client?
[11:31] <buiss> heliuscron, type your password
[11:31] <DMJC> actually nevermind? I just answered my own question. X doesn't need to run if I'm going to be booting a CLI based server right?
[11:31] <Total_Oblivion> atomcity: microsoft windows
[11:31] <Xabster> Total_Oblivion, this is #ubuntu - support for an operating system like Windows
[11:31] <DMJC> as long as SSH forwards X11.....
[11:31] <atomicity> DMJC: exactly.
[11:31] <DMJC> thanks :)
[11:31] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: oh... then... why are you asking in #ubuntu?
[11:32] <Xabster> We do not help with Microsoft Windows or applications for windows, Total_Oblivion
[11:32] <heliuscron> tried gmout-iso
[11:32] <Total_Oblivion> atomcity: cause i am running on linux atm and i want to go all the way ubuntu...
[11:32] <heliuscron> asked for pass then nothing comes up
[11:32] <MonkeyDust> Total_Oblivion  type /join ##windows (that's double #)
[11:32] <LjL> heliuscron: "gmountiso", not "gmout-iso"
[11:32] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: oh, ok.
[11:32] <heliuscron> right
[11:32] <LjL> heliuscron: let me install it and try
[11:33] <buiss> heliuscron, the program may not be there. What are you trying to do?
[11:33] <Total_Oblivion> Xabster: that's why i'm asking here... i don't want microsoft anymore...
[11:33] <heliuscron> mount simple isos
[11:33] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: next time, you should ask 'i'm new to ubuntu, what is a good application to do X'
[11:33] <LjL> heliuscron: ok, the actual program name is "Gmount-iso" (capitalization matters, note)
[11:33] <Xabster> Total_Oblivion, ah i see - do you run ubuntu now?
[11:33] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: to avoid misunderstandings.
[11:33] <heliuscron> hm ok
[11:33] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: ok, so for movies I use mplayer
[11:33] <Xabster> And I use VLC
[11:33] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: and you can install it from the package manager, just type mplayer into the search
[11:33] <buiss> heliuscron, any problem to do it in a terminal? I right click them and choose open with archive mounter in gnome
[11:34] <Total_Oblivion> atomcity: thanks. will keep that in mind :)
[11:34] <Total_Oblivion> Xabster: yeap. On dual boot though.
[11:34] <Xabster> Total_Oblivion, okay, go in to the software manager and type vlc
[11:35] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: but if you want to do it from the terminal (and I wuld encourage you to learn that)
[11:35] <Xabster> Ubuntu Software Center that is
[11:35] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: apt-get install mplayer
[11:35] <atomicity> :)
[11:35] <atomicity> sorry, sudo apt-get install mplayer
[11:35] <atomicity> then type in your password
[11:35] <atomicity> Xabster: heh, let's see who he follows :)
[11:35] <Xabster> hehe
[11:35] <Total_Oblivion> mplayers installed :P
[11:36] <Xabster> Noooo
[11:36] <Xabster> get VLC
[11:36] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: you actually should get vlc too
[11:36] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: it's better with broken files
[11:36] <Total_Oblivion> now getting vlc :P
[11:36] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: but mplayer has a better interface.
[11:36] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: and I find it to be altogether more responsive.
[11:36] <Total_Oblivion> Xabster: how can i get VLC via terminal?
[11:37] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: sudo apt-get install vlc
[11:37] <DMJC> is there a howto guide on easily disabling X in ubuntu and making network start at boot on CLI?
[11:37] <jrib> !text | DMJC
[11:37] <ocx> can someone help me?
[11:37] <ocx> root@ubuntu:~# iwlist uap0 scan uap0      Interface doesn't support scanning.
[11:37] <MonkeyDust> !nox| DMJC
[11:37] <Total_Oblivion> atomicity: E: invalid operation install
[11:37] <jrib> Total_Oblivion: lies
[11:38] <DMJC> cheers :D
[11:38] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: you misspelled it
[11:38] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: probably
[11:38] <azertyu> hi 2 all
[11:38] <zarex> why cant I enable my 3 monitors? it worked fine before update, is there a way of reverting back to before an update
[11:38] <azertyu> well, i just transfer my macbook hard drive partition to my ubuntu pc using netcat, so on my ubuntu systeme i got the image of my macbook partition so the /dev/sda1 rename as sda1.image
[11:38] <Total_Oblivion> sudo apt-get intall vlc
[11:38] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: there's an s missing
[11:38] <azertyu> now my question is : how to mount that partition from linux system ?
[11:38] <Total_Oblivion> .....
[11:38] <azertyu> Ubuntu 11.10 \n \l i got
[11:38] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: intall :)
[11:38] <Total_Oblivion> doing it now :P
[11:39] <MonkeyDust> azertyu  create a folder with an easy name, then type sudo mount [device] [that name]
[11:39] <azertyu> what name i have to change ?
[11:40] <MonkeyDust> azertyu  don't change, just make up a name
[11:40] <heliuscron> i have root but still gmount wont work
[11:40] <MonkeyDust> heliuscron  it's gmountiso
[11:40] <heliuscron> what should I chose as moutn point?
[11:40] <heliuscron> no it opens now ok
[11:40] <heliuscron> gmount-iso
[11:41] <Total_Oblivion> sweet!!!
[11:41] <heliuscron> what should i select as mount point?
[11:41] <Total_Oblivion> thanks guys :)
[11:41] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: to view videos
[11:41] <usr13> DMJC: You can turn off your window manager
[11:41] <heliuscron> i dotn see my home dir anymore
[11:41] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: cd to the folder your video is at
[11:41] <atomicity> mplayer filename
[11:41] <azertyu>  http://paste.ubuntu.com/909990/ well it return this  have a look MonkeyDust
[11:41] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: and you should also know this
[11:42] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: you don't have to type out everything
[11:42] <Total_Oblivion> atomicity: cd=change directory?
[11:42] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: if you press tab twice, it will show you the completions for your command, and if there is only one completion, it will write it out as far as it can
[11:42] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: yes, it's a command.
[11:42] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: and it does what you wrote
[11:43] <atomicity> cd dirname will change to dirname.
[11:43] <atomicity> cd .. will go one level up
[11:43] <Total_Oblivion> atomicity: we've done some unix commands at bioinformatics course, and mainly that's why i want to change to ubuntu. i pretty much like it!
[11:43] <atomicity> ls will tell you which files are in the current directlry
[11:43] <azertyu> and this is what i got on MonkeyDust log : [  381.233005] hfs: unable to find HFS+ superblock
[11:43] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: oh, ok then :) nice.
[11:43] <Rix> how is the correct usage for mount - i want to mount device and set permissions 775/664 (dirs/files) for everything on mount.. im reading the manual but dont understand - there are so many options for command mount, please help
[11:44] <Total_Oblivion> atomicity, as will pwd says where I'm atm :P
[11:44] <jrib> Rix: what filesystem?
[11:44] <Rix> fat32
[11:44] <Rix> :(
[11:44] <jrib> !vfat | Rix
[11:44] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: I have the pwd printed on my prompt all the ime
[11:44] <Rix> thanks
[11:45] <MonkeyDust> azertyu  in a Terminal, type sudo fdisk -l|pastebinit -- paste the url here so the channel can see and help
[11:46] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: http://atomicity.org/~atom/pastey/konsole_look.png
[11:47] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: that's what my desktop looks like
[11:47] <azertyu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/910003/  MonkeyDust
[11:47] <azertyu> i m not sure if you get my question fdisk -l not will help so much
[11:47] <mikeconcepts> Please look at my script to run skype that tries to run v4l, what's wrong with it http://pastebin.com/JhzJEH7q
[11:48] <Total_Oblivion> atomicity, very very user friendle :P
[11:48] <Total_Oblivion> *friendly
[11:48] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: you can modify what your terminal prompt looks like really easily by changing your .bashrc
[11:48] <Rix> jrib but is there a quick way to manually mount the device without messing with fstab
[11:48] <Rix> using just the command mount
[11:49] <MonkeyDust> azertyu  i'm not familiar with hfsplus, what is it?
[11:49] <jrib> Rix: yes, pass the options to mount with -o
[11:49] <Rix> oh thanks
[11:49] <mikeconcepts> anything wrong here? LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libv4l/v4l2convert.so
[11:49] <azertyu> hfsplus is just only an filesystem able to read mac partition
[11:50] <azertyu> on linux
[11:50] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: I'm getting you what you should paste into your .bashrc to get pretty colors like I have :)
[11:51] <heliuscron> still cant mount an iso
[11:51] <Sidewinder> Rix, There is a mount command but I'm not sure of the syntax; however, I don't believe that you can change permissions (from ubuntu), on a fat 32 or NTFS partition.
[11:51] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: in reality, this should go to /etc/profile or /etc/bashrc but I don't know how ubuntu does this.
[11:51] <MonkeyDust> azertyu  "HFS+ fsck and mkfs have been ported to Linux and are part of the hfsprogs package." -- i'd say: install hfsprogs, first
[11:52] <Koheleth> just to say I like the Ubuntu homepage today lol well done
[11:52]  * atomicity is asking himself why ubuntu installs everything and the kitchen sink by default
[11:52] <MonkeyDust> azertyu  hfsprogs is in the repos, you can use apt-get, synaptic or the software center
[11:53] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: http://ideone.com/qVrNK
[11:53] <usr13> Rix: use -w switch
[11:53] <Total_Oblivion> atomicity, any idea how can i add a language to open office?
[11:53] <Rix> Sidewinder i dont want to change them after mount, just on mounting
[11:53] <Rix> usr13 thanks i will look at this
[11:53] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: the way you do everything - install a package
[11:54] <usr13> Rix: Are you trying to write a fstab entry?
[11:54] <Rix> no
[11:54] <Rix> i just want to mount sd card
[11:54] <Rix> and by default
[11:54] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: you should go to ubuntu software center and search for openoffice, there should be a bunch of openoffice-[language code] packages
[11:54] <Rix> mount /dev/sdc1 /media/dir
[11:54] <Rix> is no good cause it makes it 644 for files
[11:54] <Rix> but i want 642
[11:55] <Rix> on mounting
[11:55] <usr13> Rix: Does this sd card have fat32 filesystem on it?
[11:55] <Rix> yes
[11:55] <sacarlson> heliuscron: did you try anything like this http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/how-to-mount-iso-image-under-linux.html ;  you can also open iso files with nautilus
[11:55] <atomicity> Rix: you want the umask option.
[11:55] <Rix> atomicity exactly i will try it now
[11:56] <Rix> umask will take permissions right?
[11:56] <atomicity> Rix: yeah
[11:56] <heliuscron> maybe cuz my iso is on another drive, not home?
[11:56] <Rix> so 002 will make files 775
[11:56] <Rix> ok thanks
[11:57] <usr13> Rix: Setting specific read write permissions to files on fat32 is not gonna happen, (the chmod command does not effect fat32)
[11:57] <Rix> yes but once i set them on mount i dont wont to change them later
[11:57] <sacarlson> heliuscron: I'm not sure that would make any difference as that notes in the link to be sudo
[11:58] <SimonYeah> Hiya, I switched to Unity from XFCE+XMonad a couple of weeks ago, and I really like it how you can customize "tiling" really easy.
[11:58] <Rix> atomicity mount: unrecognized option '--umask=005'
[11:58] <Rix> im so noob :(
[11:59] <Rix> maybe -o umount=005?
[11:59] <SimonYeah> BUT! Is there some way to only alt-tab the windows in the current workspace instead of on all the workspaces? This pisses me of so much :(
[11:59] <mjjc1337> mfw, gnome-shell is not working in 12.04 and I've deleted my configure debian to try it ;_;
[11:59] <atomicity> Rix: what you said.
[11:59] <mjjc1337> *configured
[11:59] <Rix> :)
[11:59] <Rix> worked
[12:00] <usr13> Rix: I don't think -- is  yea ok.
[12:00] <Rix> -o umount=flags
[12:00] <Rix> thanks a lot atomicity exactly that option i needed
[12:00] <SimonYeah> Oh, nevermind, found alt+` :)
[12:00] <liang> what's this?
[12:01] <liang> who can tall me ?
[12:01] <atomicity> Rix: glad I could help
[12:01] <Sidewinder> liang, This is an ubuntu support channel.
[12:02] <liang> What can I do with it ?
[12:03] <Total_Oblivion> atomicity, how can i install the latest java version? it's not at a package
[12:04] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: yeah, it's a package. search for sun-jre
[12:04] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: I gtg, someone will take care of you from here I guess.
[12:04] <Total_Oblivion> atomicity, thanks!
[12:06] <jrib> !java | Total_Oblivion
[12:06] <Rix> atomicity if i set umask 002 it makes 775 everything -> dirs and files, but i want 775 for dirs and 664 for files, is it possible?
[12:07] <jrib> Rix: see dmask and fmask
[12:07] <Rix> yey ty
[12:09] <krisbulman> .j virtualbox
[12:09] <mjjc1337> does anyone experience problems when trying to run gnome-shell in 12.04? it runs gnome-fallback instead
[12:10] <MonkeyDust> !12.04| mjjc1337
[12:10] <mjjc1337> thanks
[12:12] <XDESIGN> official channl for Linux Mint
[12:12] <XDESIGN> ?
[12:12] <MonkeyDust> !mint
[12:12] <XDESIGN> Channel*
[12:12] <daro> j
[12:12] <daro> k
[12:12] <XDESIGN> MonkeyDust 10x :)
[12:12] <daro> ?
[12:13] <XDESIGN> * Cannot join #linuxmint (Channel is invite only).
[12:13] <LjL> XDESIGN: on irc.spotchat.org, not here
[12:16] <MonkeyDust> XDESIGN  offtopic:
[12:16] <MonkeyDust> http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/?chat=linuxmint-help
[12:16] <DMJC> Linux is Awesome :D
[12:17] <XDESIGN>   10x
[12:25] <dnivra> hello. I would like to disable dpms permanently since my screen switches off in a very short time. most of google results talk about disabling it in Xorg.conf but well Ubuntu doesn't have one now. so what's the alternative way to do it?
[12:25] <dnivra> xset -dpms is a short lived fix-i guess it's enabled again when I restart x server. so that's not something I'm looking for I guess.
[12:25] <An_Ony_Moose> how do I set the locale options? dpkg-reconfigure locales did the job in the past IIRC, but I tried that and it doesn't do anything
[12:32] <ttl-> i'm testing 12.04 beta 2 from a live CD and found somthing strange, tail -f /var/log/syslog of /var/log/kern.log is not printing new lines
[12:33] <MonkeyDust> ttl-  better ask in #ubuntu+1
[12:33] <auronandace_> !12.04 | ttl-
[12:33] <ttl-> o, sorry
[12:34] <Seryth> Guys, I've got an iPod Nano 2nd Gen, 2GB. It was originally formatted for a Mac, and now I want to use it on my own computer, Linux (ubuntu). I plugged it in and it shows up, but it's RO, not RW, so I can't remove songs or put songs on, only play them...I've tried "mount -o remount -o rw /dev/sdc3" (it's location) but I get the error: "mount: /media/ad87a41c-7309-3655-8785-54dbcfbe246f not mounted already, or bad option" What can I do?
[12:34] <al3x57> quit
[12:35] <auronandace_> !ipod | Seryth
[12:35] <lol_no_u> i accidentally ubuntu my ipod
[12:35] <Seryth> auronandace_: Thanks
[12:42] <Zx432> Is there a way to figure out which tab is using up most of he ram in firefox?
[12:45] <c0rtez> Zx432 you can try about:memory
[12:47] <Zx432> x-executable is a linux file right?
[12:49] <kangarooo> whats packageaname of 10.04 LTS window manager witch makes pop up windows in front or not in front? and make them active?
[12:52] <s1gnal> Im dealing with a particularly nasty problem with x11vnc on a remote machine. About once a day it crashes so severely that it takes out ssh entirely. Whenever I drive to the site and find the machine, it is hardlocked and requires me push the reset switch. I suspected hardware damage, so yesterday I replaced the desktop server with a temporary used laptop. I installed xubuntu with x11vnc and had the same exact crash. Nothing is showing up i
[12:52] <s1gnal> n any logs to document the hardlock. Anything I can do?
[12:53] <xi_> omfg
[12:53] <xi_> wow
[12:54] <xi_> i never knew that something like irc exists ..
[12:54] <kangarooo> whats packagename for windowmanagement in 10.04 ?
[12:54] <MonkeyDust> metacity?
[12:55] <xi_> my pc has hanged :(
[12:57] <|Anthony|> i'm trying to trace the cause of a reliable Xorg crash and am gathering logs to show some meaningful information. So far i have Xorg.0.log users.log syslog.1 and .xsessions-errors.old
[12:57] <|Anthony|> any other places i could find pertinent logs?
[12:58] <s1gnal> maybe kern.log?
[12:58] <himsin> Hi, .jnlp files run very slow in my ubuntu 11.10. Sometimes they take 5 min. just to show menu. It run fine on windows. I tried with openjdk and java-6 and 7.
[12:58] <MonkeyDust> |Anthony|  try asking in #xorg
[13:00] <|Anthony|> MonkeyDust, i am pretty confident that something is happening in pulseaudio / alsa that is causing X to crap out
[13:00] <himsin> the jnlp I am trying to run is topcoder arena
[13:01] <himsin> I also tested it on 10.10. It used to work fine in 10.04 I think.
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> |Anthony|: tried:   killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*     waiting 10 seconds then try some sound apps
[13:03] <JerryKwan> somebody could tell me the default password of user 'ubuntu' in the image downloaded from ubuntu?
[13:03] <Chousuke> there shouldn't be any
[13:03] <strgglr> JerryKwan, the password is empty
[13:04] <JerryKwan> strgglr: but i can not log in use  empty password
[13:04] <strgglr> user: ubuntu passwd: empty doesnt work?
[13:05] <JerryKwan> strgglr: yep, it does not work
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> JerryKwan: press CTRL+ALT+F1   and run:  passwd ubuntu      and set a password, you can then press CTRL+ALT+F7 and log in at ubuntu with the password you set
[13:05] <MonkeyDust> |Anthony|  hmm ok, that's a bit beyond my abilities
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> JerryKwan: by default, there is no password and it should autologin
[13:05] <|Anthony|> ActionParsnip, the .pulse folder will auto-generate and nothing in there is needed?
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> |Anthony|: yes it will generate when pulse automatically restarts
[13:06] <caB00T> Where would I download trusted software for Ubuntu from Windows? Some web page?
[13:07] <Myrtti> caB00T: are you on dualboot?
[13:07] <caB00T> y
[13:07] <|Anthony|> ActionParsnip, i should mention that Xorg will only crash while playing minecraft, there haven't been any other circumstances that this happens.
[13:07] <MonkeyDust> caB00T  appnr.com
[13:07] <|Anthony|> ActionParsnip, its not that all sound events kill X
[13:07] <Dr_willis> 'trusted software for ubuntu' meaning what exactly?
[13:08] <caB00T> Thank you Myrtti. :)
[13:08] <caB00T> Meaning same as apt-get or software center?
[13:08] <jessie> i forget my BIOS password now i want to change boot order please tell me how to recover it
[13:08] <Dr_willis> caB00T,  ive never heard of appnr.com .....
[13:08] <caB00T> Oh?
[13:08] <caB00T> Is there such an equivalent?
[13:08] <Dr_willis> caB00T,  i think you chould charify the question....
[13:08] <caB00T> Ok, sorry,
[13:09] <|Anthony|> jessie, is there a CMOS reset jumper on the mobo?
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> jessie: BIOS passwords are not an ubuntu issue, try ##hardware]#
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> ##hardware
[13:09] <jessie> Anthony
[13:10] <|Anthony|> ?
[13:10] <jessie> Anthony:i dont understand
[13:10] <caB00T> I want to download new software for Ubuntu and can't connect from it directly to ther internet, so I was wondering where would I turn to?
[13:10] <caB00T> So I could donload from my windows boot?
[13:10] <Dr_willis> caB00T,  getting all the dependencies can be a big issue.
[13:10] <Dr_willis> you can downlad all the various .debs then install them by hand. but its possible you may miss some dependencies.
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> caB00T: you could use another ubuntu system online, download loads of debs using the download only option in apt-get then use aptoncd to make a cd full of debs
[13:11] <Dr_willis> caB00T,  an easier way may be to setup ubuntu in vbox on your windows machine, and apt-get the stuff then copy over the whole /var/cache/apt/  *.deb files
[13:11] <caB00T> Aha, ok my friend also has Ubuntu, good.
[13:11] <caB00T> Ok, thank you guys.
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> caB00T: of you can use packages.ubuntu.com but as Dr_willis says, deps can get messy
[13:12] <caB00T> I will try vbox, thanks guys! :)
[13:12] <Dr_willis> mondern os's just expect you to have an internet connection these days. :)
[13:12] <JerryKwan> ActionParsnip: thank you for your advice, and i will have a try
[13:12] <caB00T> hehe, so it seems... :)
[13:13] <himsin> anyone?
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> Dr_willis: true
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> himsin: tried in a live CD of Oneiric?
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> himsin: Maverick is EOL after next month...
[13:14] <himsin> ActionParsnip, no I tried in installed copy of Oneiric
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> himsin: good enough :)
[13:15] <yuansl> anyone?
[13:15] <Dr_willis> Anyone What?
[13:16] <RedCap> Hi. I trying to make port forwarding to internal network. iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -d 10.83.203.15 -p tcp --dport 16540 -j DNAT --to 172.16.58.129:16540 and I get http://paste.ubuntu.com/910090/
[13:18] <RedCap> any ideas?
[13:19] <rtdu754r> hi!
[13:20] <rtdu754r> do you like Unity?
[13:20] <fyrfaktry> anyone having issues with Ubuntu One? It seems the service is down.
[13:20] <rtdu754r> i have not used ubuntuone
[13:21] <Dragon64> workin for me, just uploaded all my stuff a few minutes ago
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> rtdu754r: s'ok
[13:21] <fyrfaktry> ok. thanks
[13:21] <dalton2345> hello everyone, i'm trying to install ubuntu next to arch, i create a partition with gparted from the live cd, but the partition is not usable :o
[13:22] <rtdu754r> Arch linux!
[13:22] <rtdu754r> cool!
[13:22] <bazhang> rtdu754r, chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic NOT here
[13:22] <Dragon64> @dalton2345 did you make it active after partitioning?
[13:23] <Dr_willis> dalton2345,  whats saying its 'not useable'
[13:23] <dalton2345> dragon, i cant do anything after, right click on it i see only the new option
[13:23] <Dr_willis> dalton2345,  and you may want to pastebin the output of 'sudo fdisk -l' for us eto see
[13:24] <rtdu754r> sir,yes sir
[13:24] <Dragon64> easiest thing to do is to use the advanced partition tool in Ubuntu, might be easier
[13:24] <RedCap> anyone?
[13:24] <Dr_willis> dalton2345,  you are not trying to make more then 4 primary partions are you?
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> dalton2345: did you format it?
[13:24] <dalton2345> Dr_willis, i'm not on it right now, i did it twice both time, it told me it was not useable
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> RedCap: try in ##networking as well
[13:25] <Dr_willis> dalton2345,  what told you that?
[13:25] <dalton2345> Dr_willis, yes it tells me i can't do more than 4 partitions
[13:25] <dalton2345> ActionParsnip, no i didnt format it
[13:25] <trinikrono> 4 primary partitions
[13:25] <dalton2345> i did it from the live cd
[13:25] <Dr_willis> dalton2345,  you need to make an extended partion, not a primary. then put logicals IN the extended
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> dalton2345: make one an extended partition and you can make as many logical partitions as you need
[13:26] <dalton2345> Dr_willis, can i do this from gparted?
[13:26] <Dragon64> @dzalton its easier from the ubuntu livecd
[13:26] <Dragon64> do the install it will prompt you for partitioning
[13:27] <Dr_willis> dalton2345,  of course. - with gparted. you could just DELETE the partion.  leaving ONLY 3 primary partions. the rest of the HD unallocated. and let the installer auto partion the unallocated space.
[13:27] <Dr_willis> dalton2345,  if you have 4 primaries in USE. that makes it harder..
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> Dr_willis: arch a good choice? ;)
[13:27] <Dragon64> Dr_willis is correct
[13:27] <Dr_willis> i have a hard time reccomending arch linux. :)
[13:28] <Dr_willis> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_partitioning#PC_partition_types
[13:28] <dalton2345> arch is a bit hard, but its really fast, i do need ubuntu for a dvb card
[13:28] <paulus68> I have squid installed how do I prevent showing that my servername and used port is mentioned when checking for example my ipadress at whatismyip.com
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> Dr_willis: its fun but imho the gains aren't significant to warrant the effort
[13:28] <dalton2345> cant make it work with arch, but with ubuntu takes me 2 click
[13:29] <Dr_willis> ActionParsnip,  and the channel is not as fun.
[13:29] <Dr_willis> A hard disk may contain only one extended partition; the extended partition can be subdivided into multiple logical partitions. In DOS/Windows systems, each logical partition may then be assigned an additional drive letter.
[13:29] <Dr_willis> in linux speak. the logicals would be 'sda5 and up'
[13:29] <Dr_willis> if the hd is 'sda'
[13:30] <dalton2345> the thing is i resize the partition, make 30gb of that space free...then i do like i install ubuntu, it doesnt give me the option...just tell me if i want to erase the all drive
[13:30] <Dr_willis> dalton2345,  if you allready HAVE 4 primary partions. then you must remove one. to make a extended.
[13:30] <Dr_willis> if your arch swap partion is on a primary, you could move it to a logical inside the extended.
[13:30] <Dragon64> @dalton there are usually several options, one should say install beside other linux
[13:31] <dalton2345> nope dragon it doesn't cause i have 4 partitions...looks like
[13:31] <Dr_willis> 4 primary partions in use - leads to a dead end when trying to install other os's :)
[13:31] <Dragon64> ok, the Dr is correct
[13:31] <Dragon64> o yes it does
[13:31] <Dragon64> lol
[13:32] <Dragon64> I had that issue first time I installed slack, had no idea what i was doing
[13:32] <dalton2345> so i delete swap?
[13:32] <Dr_willis> on a normal linux only box. i tend to use all primaries. :) but these days i normally only need 3 primaries.  / home and swap.
[13:32] <dalton2345> than arch will use ubuntu's swap ?
[13:32] <Dr_willis> you can easially delete the swap partion. (if its  at the end of your partions) and resize the unalocated space into a extended partion.  THEN let ubuntu install to that extended. it will make a / and a swap partion.
[13:33] <Dr_willis> shareing 'swap' can cause issues - if you intend on using hibernate/suspend. (i never use those)
[13:33] <Dr_willis> You can even set up swap files if you wanted to. and not use a swap partion.
[13:33] <raydog45000> does anyone know the command or how to get javac?
[13:34] <dalton2345> wait i will turn on the other pc and do a fdisk...and pastebin
[13:34] <Dr_willis> You could also work at it and sort of share your existing home partion.   keep the 2 disrtos homes in seperate dirs. but on the same partition.
[13:34] <escott> raydog45000, did you install the jdk or just the jre?
[13:34] <Dr_willis> but with differnt disrtos. the differnt UID/GIDS can cause issues.
[13:35] <Dragon64> @raydog45000 you will need to make sure java is installed first
[13:35] <raydog45000> idk I installed Ubuntu 11.1
[13:35] <raydog45000> i did whereis javac
[13:35] <sysc> you need the jdk
[13:35] <escott> raydog45000, sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jdk
[13:37] <dalton2345> well nevermind pastebin, i do have 4 partitions
[13:38] <Dragon64> whats the address of the ubuntu general chat?
[13:38] <escott> !ot | Dragon64
[13:39] <Dragon64> thanks
[13:41] <foobArrr> what is the difference between indicator applet and notification area?
[13:41] <FernandoCueva> I have a question, when you connect to an encrypted server can the isp find out who the connection is going to or that's a hardware secret?
[13:42] <marsfligth> Does 'umount' command to empties the trash on removable devices while it is executing? Or to empty the trash i have to use 'rm' or some specific tool? The trash folders that I mean are '.Trash-1000' and '.Trash-0'. Thanks
[13:42] <escott> FernandoCueva, they know who it goes to. they have to otherwise they couldn't route it
[13:43] <escott> marsfligth, umount does not empty the trash. you would have to do that. the different trash folders are for different users (1000 is you, 0 is root)
[13:44] <FernandoCueva> couldn't they at least make the routing part encrypted and decreypted by hardware
[13:44] <atomicity> FernandoCueva: they can see that there is communication going on. Usually, it is possible to guess the protocol
[13:44] <marsfligth> Thanks escott
[13:44] <Dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/10228/whats-the-right-terminology-for-unitys-ui-elements
[13:44] <Dr_willis> marsfligth,  unmount as far as i know does not touch the trash. its when you use the gnome gui. it checks the trash
[13:44] <atomicity> FernandoCueva: no, that's a tcp/ip thing
[13:45] <atomicity> FernandoCueva: the tcp/ip part of the packet cannot be encrypted
[13:45] <Dr_willis> marsfligth,  each trash is  .trash-user-uid-number. so things in .trash-0 are what root deleted.
[13:45] <atomicity> FernandoCueva: and that's precicely the part that says who sent the packet and who it is for.
[13:45] <Dr_willis> marsfligth,  the default user is uid 1000.
[13:45] <atomicity> FernandoCueva: if you want anonymous communication with even that hidden, you have to use tor
[13:46] <marsfligth> escott: does exist a sort of command that empty all present trashes folders only on removable device. Something like 'autotrash' for instance
[13:46] <FernandoCueva> oh yea I heard about tor some years ago
[13:46] <Dr_willis> marsfligth,  not that ive ever noticed.
[13:46]  * atomicity does not understand why people need trash
[13:47] <Dr_willis> hang in here enough and you will see why.
[13:47] <atomicity> Dr_willis: fair enough :)
[13:47] <Dr_willis> easially 3x a week 'i deleted this file.. how do i get it back...' type questions
[13:47] <atomicity> Dr_willis: funny, I never saw this kind of question on #archlinux :)
[13:47] <Dr_willis> if your hd is only 10% full why not use a trash dir. :) just in case.. costs you very little.
[13:47] <mcloy> iam using amazon cloud. and installed postfix. if i change /etc/hosts and etc/hostname . it will not cause any problem?
[13:48] <atomicity> Dr_willis: because I like my rm to work fast.
[13:48] <Dr_willis> atomicity,  the answer in there is always 'you idiot to read the wiki' also..
[13:48] <escott> marsfligth, you can shift+delete to bypass the trash in the gui
[13:48] <Dr_willis> atomicity,   there are 'rm' alternatives that use a trash can also.
[13:49] <atomicity> Dr_willis: also, when I delete stuff, I usually want to delete it. Otherwise I just don't. Git helps too.
[13:49] <Dr_willis> cant really recall much speed differances in rm vs moveing a file either. guess there cases where each may be faster or slower then the other.
[13:50] <honey> i am using ubuntu 10.04 and i would like to use printer and scanner as well but i coudn't find any driver for my scanner HP Scanjet G2410 ?any help
[13:50] <atomicity> Dr_willis: if you are not very, very careful, you can easily move across devices with trash
[13:50] <atomicity> Dr_willis: especially since I always have sshfs filesystems mounted all over the place
[13:50] <Dr_willis> atomicity,  cant say i ever noticed doing that.,
[13:50] <atomicity> Dr_willis: (I do perverse stuff with my mountpoints)
[13:50] <satyanash> That happened to me once.. I moved my Homefolder inside the trash.
[13:51] <satyanash> I don;t know how, But the mount point for my home folder came in trash.
[13:51] <satyanash> I remember fixing something in the Gconf-editor.
[13:52] <atomicity> satyanash: i *knew* it was because you used a gui. Guis are evil.
[13:52]  * atomicity hides
[13:52] <satyanash> atomicity, I stopped using Nautilus after that/
[13:52] <halim> hi, i need to make the /boot partition bigger because of apt-get upgrade and want to make a fat32 partition smaller for this. this is what my hdd looks like: http://image-upload.de/image/1ZrGW9/b8514452c7.png , as you see boot is sda2 and fat32 partition is sda4 would it work to make sda4 smaller and add that memory to sda2?
[13:53] <escott> halim, your boot is probably big enough if you remove some old kernels
[13:53] <atomicity> satyanash: I find nautilus particularly infuriating. Dolphin is quite oh-right though. Only use it for image folders though, gui filemanagers are useless for anything else.
[13:53] <escott> halim, but you cannot resize the current /boot without shrinking the ntfs
[13:53] <atomicity> halim: escott has the right idea
[13:54] <halim> hmm, i'm going to take a look whether there are some older kernels to be removed
[13:54] <halim> thx for the hint
[13:55] <foobArrr> is there an automatic way to remove old kernels?
[13:55] <satyanash> atomicity, I use PCmanFM
[13:55] <escott> halim, dpkg -l "*linux*"; dpkg -r "linux-image-3.0.0-10-generic" copy and pasting the last bit
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> foobArrr: I have a script for it myself :)
[13:56] <Etronik> Fuxking teamviewer is working LOUSY from an ubuntu to another ubuntu !! doesn't allow proper support hell
[13:56] <honey> i am using ubuntu 10.04 and i would like to use printer and scanner as well but i coudn't find any driver for my scanner HP Scanjet G2410 and i was try to compile CompileSaneFromSource but still i coudnt scan is there any help?
[13:57] <atomicity> why does ctrl + alt + backspace not work anymore!!! noooo!!!
[13:57] <bastidrazor> atomicity: alt sysrq k ..replaced it
[13:57] <amram> hi can anyone tell me how to install adobe flash for unity, i dont have it in my ubuntu software
[13:57] <escott> atomicity, nozap has been set by default for a few years now
[13:58] <atomicity> bastidrazor: that's good to know
[13:58] <atomicity> escott: yeah, I also know that. It was a cry of desperation. My X suddenly decided it should turn the screen off.
[13:58] <atomicity> and it seems it is utterly incapable of turning it on again.
[13:59] <dalton2345> honey,  you find something a name similar to ur hp scanner?
[13:59] <atomicity> best thing ever, even ctrl+alt+f1 doesn't go to terminal anymore
[13:59] <foobArrr> Oo
[13:59] <FernandoCueva> atomicity, I use alt left right arrow
[14:00] <atomicity> FernandoCueva: alt left only works if you are already in a vterm
[14:01] <FernandoCueva> oh yea use the service lightdm stop then
[14:01] <honey> dalton2345:no i can't find it simiilar to my hp scanner ?
[14:01] <atomicity> FernandoCueva: I would totally do that if I could ssh to the machine from another, but I have foolishly forgotten to enable the ssh server
[14:02] <atomicity> new install and everything
[14:02] <FernandoCueva> I'm sorry man
[14:02] <atomicity> FernandoCueva: I know, it's a bit tragic
[14:02] <dalton2345> honey, how old is it your scanner
[14:02] <honey> dalton2345:it is new
[14:03] <dalton2345> honey, why you on 10-04 ;)
[14:05] <atomicity> should ctrl+alt+delete work?
[14:05] <atomicity> I mean, does it trigger init 6?
[14:05] <Etronik> Teamviewer : who the hell recommeded that in here! what a piece of crap
[14:05] <honey> dalton2345:just it comfortabl for me?
[14:05] <escott> !sysrq | atomicity
[14:06] <dalton2345> honey, haha i know what you saying, i use the same ;)
[14:06] <eye-gor> honey: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=870017
[14:06] <ejv> hey guys, i accidentally cut my screen session in half, how do I undo it
[14:07] <atomicity> escott: what do you know, it worked :)
[14:07] <honey> dalton2345:by the way i was following the steps https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompileSaneFromSource
[14:09] <eye-gor> honey: no nned to do that check the link I gave you ^^
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> atomicity: init 6 is shutdown, ctrl+alt+bckspace (or similar) simply restarts x. You can do the same with:  killall -u $USER    too :)
[14:10] <Etronik> man oh man! ubuntu is turning into support nightmare... two setups nothing but trouble - got get this off my chest... it's working fine on MY PC - but wife's and mum's it's a nightmare !!
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> Etronik: what issues do you have?
[14:11] <someone235> hi, i can't succeed connect to my vsftpd. i write down my username and password, and it says that the login is incorrect
[14:11] <Lirth> How do I mount my second hard drive? It's a SSD I use for gaming (which I will ask about moving my games to in the wine channel).
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> someone235: what clients have you tried?
[14:11] <atomicity> ActionParsnip: I know. Desperate(r) times call for desperate(r) measures.
[14:11] <honey> eye-gor:yeah iwas follow even that instruction but i t coudn't work proporly and i have installed  hplip package proporly   but still it is not working
[14:11] <Etronik> ActionParsnip, 1. intermittent printing on one, and ... thunderbird problems with another..
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> Lirth: you will mount the partition. If you run:  sudo fdisk -l   do you see the partition?
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> Etronik: what printer make and model do you have and which release are you using?
[14:12] <Etronik> ActionParsnip, and teamviewer just does not work to allow decent or in time troubleshooting
[14:12] <eye-gor> honey: Ah shame that.
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> Etronik: try ssh instead. much faster :)
[14:12] <Etronik> ActionParsnip, latest 11.10 with an OKI 4600
[14:13] <someone235> ActionParsnip, the default of ubuntu. the "ftp" command
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> someone235: tried filezilla (or do you not have a desktop UI?)
[14:13] <Etronik> ActionParsnip, ssh? that's just a protocol ? what is a fast remote GUI thing..
[14:14] <Lirth> actionparsnip: http://pastebin.com/EewTjXAz
[14:14] <Etronik> ActionParsnip, I'm just desperate, it'ss too much trouble...
[14:15] <Etronik> days and adays on end without a smooth operation, calls, failed teamviewer sessions... a frustrating experience, trying to migrate windows users (non-geek) into ubuntu
[14:15] <Dr_willis> i remote in via ssh :) easier to trouble shoot most of the times. you can monitor the cups logs via ssh easially enough.
[14:15] <Etronik> I'm surprised its working so well on my PC, but I'm a PC guy... so...
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> Etronik: most times you probably won't need GUI, what sort of troubleshooting so you use?
[14:15] <Lirth> ActionParsnip: I think it's listed.
[14:15] <someone235> ActionParsnip, i tried filezilla either
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> Etronik: did you grab the English B4400 / B4500 / B4550 / B4600 Linux CUPS PCL Driver from the OKI website?
[14:16] <bittin> lol: http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20120402
[14:16] <|Anthony|> anyone able to make heads or tails of these logs?
[14:16] <|Anthony|> http://pastebin.com/4y0U9GTF
[14:16] <Etronik> ActionParsnip, no, I conected the printer and followed Ubuntu's wizard... to set it up
[14:17] <Etronik> it all seemed fine
[14:17] <Dr_willis> Etronik,  look at the bright side.. at least its not a canon printer you are fighting with. ;)
[14:17] <Etronik> but it seems to print only one, then kinda looses connectivity with the printer...
[14:17] <Etronik> anyway, I'm going a have a better in-site look later today
[14:17] <aph__> My BT Home Hub3 (wifi) just stopped working on my 11.10 machines today, any ideas?
[14:17] <Dr_willis> Etronik,  networked or usb connection?
[14:18] <Etronik> not in-site... dort of on-site
[14:18] <Etronik> Dr_willis, USb connection
[14:18] <Etronik> and I have no response to the "man.. this just WORKS under windows..." :-/
[14:19] <Dr_willis> Etronik,  watch dmesg output. i have seen usb cables get loose  -  expecially when 'mom' or whoever. starts moveing things around
[14:19] <Etronik> Yeah! eh
[14:19] <Etronik> I've got that covered
[14:19] <scott_z> If I do an upgade (several are available) is there a way to un-upgrade in case of problems (like a Windows, add/remove programs)? and if so.. how?
[14:19] <Etronik> made sure to tell her to make sure cables are securely fit
[14:19] <Dr_willis> for everything that 'just works' under windows.. i can find a dozen things that were 'supposed to just work' and took me hours to get going.. in windows.. :)
[14:20] <Dr_willis> ssh into her box. have her unplug/plug in each usb cable.  the cups web interface may also show some errors. IT could be some odd cups driver bug. ive seen those in the past also.
[14:20] <Etronik> Dr_willis, man, it's a freekin PCL laser printer, how complex can that be ?...
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> Etronik: grab the driver from teh OKI site, may help. I suggest you delete the printer you have setup now
[14:20] <Etronik> ActionParsnip, yeah, will try to do that
[14:20] <Dr_willis> Etronik,  windows 7 dropped support for my old 'pcl' printer... figure that one out. :)  differnt pcl drivers may work for it.
[14:20] <Etronik> although I have no idea how to manually install printer drivers...
[14:21] <Dr_willis> Etronik,  i got a brother networked laser for $99 on sale last year.. best laser ive ever had.
[14:21] <Dr_willis> replaced my 14+yr old hp 6l.
[14:21] <Etronik> yep! at home I have that... Hl-2030 coonnected via USB to the router...
[14:21] <Etronik> works like a charm
[14:22] <Etronik> although... printing under ubuntu keeps asking me for the SMB password, every time I print...
[14:22] <Etronik> minor PITA
[14:22] <Dr_willis> hmm.. my brother supports smb, hplip, and a dozen other printing protacals.. i dont need to use smb to print to it from linux
[14:23] <Dr_willis> it may be your router only supports smb.
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> bittin: looks like the partition table of the SSD is a bit confused. Does it contain a healthy partition? Is the data encrypted in any way?
[14:23] <Etronik> it's shared via the buffalo NAS
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> Etronik: you can set the username and password when you map the printer...
[14:23] <Etronik> its not networked, its USB connected to the NAS and shared from there
[14:23] <bittin> ActionParsnip, i never owned an SSD
[14:24] <Etronik> ActionParsnip, maybe, or for sure, but unclear how to do that
[14:24] <bittin> lol: http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20120402
[14:24] <xi_> m loving this chatroom!
[14:25] <xi_> hey rahim .. can you tell lme some android irc channel
[14:25] <Xabster> #android ?
[14:25] <xi_> or anyone else plz , any android dev. irc channel
[14:25] <Xabster> just did
[14:26] <xi_> didnt get you Xbster ....
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> Etronik: its part of the process, when you add the printer, read the screen
[14:28] <Etronik> nah, That much I did, I READ EVERYTHING CAREFULLY!   I'm old school guy :-)
[14:29] <Etronik> I don't  go pressing OK OK OK  without reading like many guys nowadays  do... ;-)
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> Etronik: http://www.techotopia.com/images/b/b8/Ubuntu_samba_printer.jpg    see the authentication bit....
[14:30] <Etronik> yeah will do thanks, like I said : minor PITA
[14:30] <Etronik> I have to solve printer problem in wife's work PC, then my Mum's issues...
[14:30] <Etronik> brb
[14:31] <paulus68> I have squid installed how do I prevent showing that my servername and used port is mentioned when checking for example my ipadress at whatismyip.com
[14:32] <honey> eye-gor:how can i use tar -xvzf?
[14:32] <c0nnect3d> hi
[14:33] <honey> eye-gor:iam using those steps on that you give me and see it on step 9?/////////
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> honey: install unp, makes extracting in cli much easier
[14:34] <danger_> HELLO
[14:34] <Matrix> Hi everyone. Im having issues trying to install Ubunut on Alienware Laptop. Wanted to know if there was a way to PRELOAD propriatary drivers into the install iso ?
[14:35] <Lirth> What partition table type should I use?
[14:35] <mcloy> i need help , i need to send emails by php. i have installed postfix but people say that i dont have a fqdn and no /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts valid entry.     what should i do?
[14:35] <eye-gor> honey: if you have a tar file just right click it and choose extract here
[14:35] <Rapid2214> mcloy: Use phpmailer
[14:36] <Dr_willis> paulus68,  im not sure thats in any way a 'squid' feature.
[14:36] <jpsullia> CAN I GET TV TUNER DRIVER......
[14:36] <scott_z> If I do an upgade (several are available) is there a way to un-upgrade in case of problems (like a Windows, add/remove programs)? and if so.. how?
[14:37] <Matrix> Anyone know of a way to slipstream  propriatary drivers into the install iso ?
[14:37] <escott> Lirth, if the disk is <2TB and you dont have an efi system use msdos.
[14:37] <llutz> mcloy: add "127.0.1.1 your.fqdn.tld" to /etc/hosts
[14:37] <Dr_willis> !remaster | Matrix
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> Matrix: you can remaster the ISO and add whatever you want
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> jpsullia: please drop the caps
[14:37] <eye-gor> honey: or if cli the it would be tar -xvzf filename.tar.gz
[14:37] <Lirth> escott: What is an efi system?
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> jpsullia: how about some details on the device, much more useful.
[14:37] <jpsullia> OK
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> eye-gor: honey: or:    unp filename.tar.gz
[14:38] <CharminTheMoose> Does buffer/cache get swapped to disk eventually? Say I have several large files in /dev/shm?
[14:38] <jpsullia> BT878 CARD
[14:38] <xi_> ?
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> jpsullia: and how does it connect to the system?
[14:39] <escott> Lirth, a replacement for bios. if your computer is brand new you might have efi but you probably have bios
[14:39] <jpsullia> PCI CARD
[14:39] <Matrix> ActionParsnip: So I can add nvida drivers to the install process ?
[14:39] <escott> CharminTheMoose, when there is memory pressure it will get swapped or dropped
[14:39] <Somelauw> Hi, whenever I use espeak it works, but I do get an error: "ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1018:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave"
[14:40] <Seryth> babble-: ?
[14:40] <Lirth> escott: How do I tell if I have efi? I know I have some fancy GUI from my motherboard when I mess with overclocking/boot menu. (I haven't used it for anything else).
[14:40] <Seryth> or babble?
[14:40] <CharminTheMoose> escott, can actual files like stuff in /dev/shm get dropped? :/
[14:40] <escott> Lirth, well does that fancy gui support your mouse? does it say "efi" or "uefi" anywhere
[14:41] <Lirth> escott: That's what I mean by fancy GUI. It's graphic (with the mouse).
[14:41] <escott> CharminTheMoose, only true caches will get dropped (ie the vfs layer keeping a file it just read in memory)
[14:41] <FernandoCueva> HOW do I copy a driver from one linux that has the right driver and move it to another linux that doesn't have the driver
[14:41] <CharminTheMoose> escott, ahh yes, thank you.
[14:41] <Seryth> babble: Hello?
[14:42] <Dr_willis> FernandoCueva,  if you are lucky the packages are cached in /var/cache/apt/ (or was it /var/apt/cache
[14:42] <Dr_willis> FernandoCueva,  also depends on the drivers in question
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> Matrix: you can if you want, they are just packages like any other, bit pointless as they are available once you get booted....
[14:42] <babble> Seryth: I'm here, but I'm also knee deep in something in #xubuntu
[14:43] <babble> if I get laggy, msg me
[14:43] <escott> Lirth, sounds like it might be a uefi system which sucks. in that case you probably need to be using gpt partition, and you will need to install grub-efi fork. many efi systems can boot bios so you could also try a msdos partition and normal plain old grub
[14:43] <FernandoCueva> cool
[14:43] <jpsullia> ?
[14:44] <mcloy> llutz, cat /etc/hots 107.22.63.2     mail.open-pages.com mail
[14:44] <mcloy> 127.0.1.1       ip-10-111-31-180.ec2.internal ip-10-111-31-180
[14:44] <Dr_willis> jpsullia,  if you clearly ask your question and give details on one line. it makes it much easier to read.
[14:44] <Lirth> escott: Can we play "Linux's intro to morons"? Basically, you say what you just said, but so that I can understand it. :D
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> jpsullia: ok and what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[14:44] <Dr_willis> jpsullia,  you may also want to check the askubuntu.com site to see if others have had to do anything special to get that card to work.
[14:44] <jpsullia> one  sec......
[14:45] <escott> Lirth, you've got fancy hardware and lots of headaches associated with that (in the future don't buy the most expensive thing). is ubuntu going to be the only os? is ubuntu going to be controlling the boot? how many disks do you have?
[14:45] <install1> is it possible to run the ubuntu setup from hard disk?
[14:45] <FernandoCueva> there's nothing there Dr_willis  any other wey
[14:45] <mcloy> llutz, is that correct?
[14:46] <jpsullia> output " lucid"
[14:46] <FernandoCueva> only a lock file and a partial folder both empty to 0 bytes
[14:46] <Dr_willis> FernandoCueva,  depends on the driver you are looking for.
[14:46] <Lirth> escott: I hope to keep ubuntu as the only one. Ubuntu is controlling the boot (through GRUB, I believe). I have two disks. The 1 TB HDD and the 120 GB SSD.
[14:46] <escott> install1, no, there have been attempts to make a debboostrap work with ubuntu, but i dont think that they are supported
[14:46] <FernandoCueva> how to find out what version or driver name it has Dr_willis
[14:46] <Dr_willis> FernandoCueva,  i dont even know what Device you are looking for a driver for....
[14:46] <jpsullia> ?
[14:47] <Slasher`> does anyone know what the old ubuntu netbook interface is called, and how to install it on the newest ubuntu if that's even possible?
[14:47] <FernandoCueva> Dr_willis, it's a network card
[14:47] <Dr_willis> Slasher`,  it became unity.. and basically is the default.
[14:47] <Slasher`> ah damn
[14:47] <Dr_willis> FernandoCueva,  that narrows it down to 1000+ devices...
[14:47] <Slasher`> i don't like unity, it's not as easy on touch screens lol
[14:47] <FernandoCueva> it's an atheros chipset card Dr_willis
[14:48] <escott> Lirth, so based on disk size you should be able to use an msdos partition type, and most uefi systems should support a bios/mbr style boot for the time being. i would recommend that you try an msdos partition and just install the normal version of grub to the mbr (ie do nothing fancy and pretend it is a bios system) if that works just stick with it
[14:48] <Slasher`> dont suppose there were any forks before hand?
[14:48] <Dr_willis> Slasher`,  its supposed to eventually be targeted at touchscreens
[14:48] <Slasher`> fingers crossed then
[14:48] <Dr_willis> lubuntu and kde/kubuntu have netbook 'interface options' also. but never used them
[14:48] <Lirth> escott: I'm trying to install it for the SSD (120 GB). Does the same thing follow?
[14:48] <mcloy>  llutz  you ther?//
[14:48] <Slasher`> it has come a long way since i first used it, but i still don't deem it as usable just yet
[14:48] <Slasher`> i will check them out, thanks Dr_willis
[14:49] <install1> how should i run the ubuntu setup cd via grub4dos?
[14:49] <foobArrr> I'd like to bind gnome-do or synapse or kupfer to Super. possible? like gnome3's activities.
[14:49] <escott> Lirth, yes. anything less than 2TB is small enough for an msdos partition table. you don't have to use gpt until something like 2.5TB or 3TB (cant remember exactly what)
[14:49] <Dr_willis> FernandoCueva,  you may want to check askubuntu.com about your exact chipset. it may have some guides on exactly what files you need to copy over.
[14:50] <escott> FernandoCueva, atheros is usually well supported
[14:50] <Lirth> escott: So then how would I do it without the fancy uefi? How would I install grup?
[14:50] <walidvb> hi fellow unbuntues!
[14:50] <Lirth> escott: grub*
[14:50] <walidvb> i'm trying open ssh ports to give access to certain ppl to my machine
[14:51] <walidvb> i tried several things, with no success...
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> walidvb: do you use a router?
[14:51] <walidvb> i did open port 22 in my routeur,
[14:51] <walidvb> ActionParsnip: yes
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> walidvb: and did you set the port forward there?
[14:51] <escott> Lirth, you would install a normal version of grub to the mbr, and after the uefi posts it would switch to its bios emulation layer and boot the mbr. unless you have some desire for other uefi "features" that will get you booting
[14:51] <walidvb> i would like to have a fixed IP, would be the best, but not mandatory
[14:52] <walidvb> ActionParsnip: i did, fwd port 22 to the ip of my machine
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> walidvb: use noip or dydns then you can use a name, you wn't crae what your IP is then
[14:52] <walidvb> right now, i tried a config that says IP Passthrough(not sure exactly what that is)
[14:52] <walidvb> ok
[14:52] <walidvb> dydns
[14:52] <walidvb> lemme check
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> walidvb: both are fine
[14:52] <walidvb> free?
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> walidvb: I use noip personally, both are free
[14:53] <ingmar_> Hi
[14:53] <ingmar_> i have a quick question, what is the default location of .bash_profile in ubuntu? i can't seem to find it
[14:53] <Lirth> escott: So how would I remove the old version of grub and then get the normal one installed?
[14:53] <escott> walidvb, dyndns changed things around. you get 1 free after giving a CC number for a free trial (supposedly -- I got grandfathered in so I haven't registered recently)
[14:53] <escott> Lirth, what do you mean by that? what old version?
[14:54] <escott> ingmar_, trick question. there isn't one :)
[14:54] <Lirth> escott: The one I have installed now.
[14:54] <walidvb> escott: thx
[14:54] <ingmar_> ty.. so i suppose i create one? and where would i do that ? /bin?
[14:55] <escott> Lirth, if you are reinstalling to the whole disk (which asking about partition table types suggests you are) then it will be overwritten
[14:55] <walidvb> ActionParsnip: so i created that, but still have a router config problem...
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> walidvb: did you try rebooting the router? some home grade stuff needs that
[14:55] <walidvb> yup
[14:55] <walidvb> is ip passthrough needed?
[14:55] <escott> ingmar_, put it in ~ and source if from your .bashrc
[14:55] <ingmar_> sorry?
[14:56] <Lirth> escott: It's asking for the partition table on my second drive. I don't want to wipe my main drive (that would be bad).
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> walidvb: i'd grab your manual, see if it can shed any light
[14:56] <escott> Lirth, and that can be msdos, unless you desire otherwise
[14:57] <walidvb> ActionParsnip: hm alright, will try that.
[14:57] <Lirth> escott: So do I still need to mess with grub?
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> ingmar_: there is /etc/bash.bashrc for global bashrc goodness
[14:57] <erinaceus> Hi, i could use some help setting up my three displays, i had a working xorg.conf under ubuntu, but now i've changed to lubuntu and it doesnt work anymore
[14:58] <ingmar_> thank you i found it!
[14:58] <escott> Lirth, with "I might have uefi but am not sure" in mind I would suggest you just do everything with msdos. the moment you start adding gpt in there you might end up with some situation where the uefi insists upon booting via efi boot and then you have to mess with grub-efi. Its up to you in the end, whatever you want to do
[14:58] <ingmar_> thanks for the help @escott
[14:58] <Lirth> escott: Sounds good.
[14:58] <jpsullia> ?
[15:00] <escott> jpsullia, you haven't done much to help us help you. check linuxtv.org to see if your hardware is supported. not sure what else to tell you
[15:01] <Etronik> ActionParsnip, re, can you ellaborate better on that ssh remote con trol thing ? :)
[15:01] <Etronik> ActionParsnip, it it a command line remote access ?
[15:01] <mohsin^> hi
[15:03] <mohsin^> I am looking at building a pc to play digital audio and video content in HD
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> Etronik: you can remote connect to the system and type commands, or run GUI apps securely over the SSH connection
[15:03] <mohsin^> i think i had seen a unbuntu variant .. but dont recall the name
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> Etronik: you can also securely transfer files between the 2 systems
[15:04] <Etronik> mohsin^,  get RasperryPi
[15:04] <mohsin^> can you please point me to it
[15:04] <escott> mohsin^, software? xbmc?
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> mohsin^: trimslice :)
[15:04] <GrandePain> hey are u there?
[15:04] <Lirth> What file system should I use if I'm going to try to run Wine programs off of it? I was told to use a linux format but the only things I really understood was to not use Fat or NTFS.
[15:05] <Etronik> ActionParsnip, can ya get me a couple links to get strated easy? I'm thinking FeeNX or something like that, I need GUI because I'm not guru in command line
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> Lirth: any, wine doesn't care as long as the data has appropriate access for the app to run
[15:05] <escott> Lirth, wine doesn't care what the underlying fs is
[15:05] <Etronik> mohsin^,  google RaspberryPi
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> Etronik: well, what are you fixing remotely exactly?
[15:05] <escott> Etronik, ssh -X user@host; then run your gui program by name
[15:05] <Lirth> ActionParsnip, escott: Is there any file system that works better or worse?
[15:05] <mohsin^> thanks ActionParsnip , escott and Etronik  . .. let me see .. none of these ring a bell .. but these might be even better options
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> Lirth: not really, no. The default Ext4 will be fine
[15:06] <Lirth> ActionParsnip: Thanks
[15:06]  * ActionParsnip wants a trimslice :(
[15:06] <Etronik> ActionParsnip, escott : don't forget I can access from home's Ubuntu as well as from Work's Windows system
[15:06] <GrandePain> heyy can u give answer me?
[15:06] <escott> !ask | GrandePain
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> GrandePain: whom are you talking to?
[15:07] <Etronik> ActionParsnip, escott :_ I need to troubleshoot or help my Mum using Ubuntu... simple stuff like "I got the window up there and I can't reach it" to "thunderbird is fubar"
[15:07] <GrandePain> is wine really running windows app. ?
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> Etronik: could use vnc via ssh tunnel for security
[15:07] <escott> Etronik, in that case you need to install a xvnc or the like
[15:07] <escott> !vnc | Etronik
[15:07] <Etronik> VNC is too slow...
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> GrandePain: it runs windows apps, it doesn't run windows itself. Not all apps work
[15:07] <Etronik> yeah, FreeNX is the ay I think
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> Etronik: try alternatives then, remeber to keep an eye on security
[15:08] <Etronik> yeah, FreeNX is the way I think
[15:08] <GrandePain> i see thx humanson
[15:08] <pambos> The ftp upload in not working for a particular site on my server (the server runs plesk). The permission i gave to that folder is 755. any ideas?
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> pambos: not very secure....
[15:10] <escott> Etronik, the problem with freenx and the like is you have to modify her login so that you can take over the existing session
[15:11] <pambos> ActionParsnip: Folders 755 and files 644 is not secure?
[15:12] <escott> pambos, ftp in general is unsecure. you might consider switching to sftp which can be jailed fairly easily these days
[15:13] <Etronik> escott, oh I don't mind that...
[15:13] <Etronik> neither does she
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> pambos: the 4s and 5s are fine, 7s can be dodgey especially how weak ftp is with security
[15:14] <pambos> escott: how can i switch to sftp?
[15:15] <escott> Etronik, you aren't understanding what im saying. an X server accepts request from the app and draws them to the display. when you she starts her X server it draws to her screen. thats it. trying to move (or mirror) those apps to another x server will crash most apps. X is network transparent, but not network aware in the sense you need.
[15:16] <escott> pambos, install openssh-server and then look at http://www.minstrel.org.uk/papers/sftp/
[15:16] <Etronik> escott, so... I got to go VNC route ?
[15:17] <escott> pambos, if you have a limited number of users then you can create auth-keys for them (or have them give you their pub keys) and dispense with passwords entirely
[15:17] <pambos> escott: i have 100+ users on the server. do you think it gonna be easy to switch to sftp?
[15:18] <tyler_d> such fun learning stuff from escott :)
[15:18] <Etronik> boy this is complex stuff
[15:18] <Etronik> it will take ages to configure this on two distinct PC...
[15:19] <escott> Etronik, it would be very complex to do what you want, and vnc is pretty decent over low bandwidth connections. im not sure you can expect anything substantially better from freenx (although im sure their marketing documents suggest otherwise)
[15:19] <escott> tyler_d, hopefully you arent being facetious
[15:19] <Etronik> I see
[15:19] <tyler_d> escott: not at all sir
[15:20] <Etronik> I'll try VNC then, since Teamviewer was such a bust
[15:20] <escott> Etronik, i've never actually used freenx so its worth a try, but try it over ssh -X then
[15:20] <escott> Etronik, then if it works, you can think about trying to set up some X redirection on the local client so you can steal access
[15:22] <atomicity> how does upgrading ubuntu between major versions work?
[15:22] <atomicity> is there a clear upgrade path?
[15:22] <tyler_d> anyone successfully set up a dial-up modem? where did you get the actual device path? ie. /dev/bar
[15:23] <escott> Etronik, freenx could do what you want, but you would have to instruct your mom to login and then open the freenx client back to her own machine, and then when she gets into difficults suspend the session and contact you
[15:23] <dalton2345> Dr_willis, it works, i deleted swap, i'm doing ubuntu updates :0
[15:23] <dalton2345> :)
[15:23] <jpsullia> i am using frontech PCI tv tuner but as per Linux Device Manager its showing BT878 video ( *** UNKNOWN/GENER
[15:23] <jenesaispas> hello there
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> jpsullia: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[15:23] <irenicus09> hi anyone knows a good GUI interface for 7z @gnome3?
[15:24] <jpsullia> lucid
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> irenicus09: install p7zip-full p7zip and p7zip-rar and the right click menu with be able to extract it, just like ANY other compressed file
[15:24] <Etronik> escott, freenx back to her !?... thats getting too complex even for me
[15:24] <escott> atomicity, yes but you cannot jump releases except for lts -> lts
[15:24] <Etronik> I need to take a deep breath
[15:25] <escott> Etronik, try vnc first
[15:25] <Etronik> I might as well just  get them back to windows
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> jpsullia: will you please type the nick of the person you are addressing. The room gets very busy and your replys will be lost
[15:25] <Etronik> lunch - bbl
[15:25] <scott_z> How do I edit the GRUB menu to point to a different default kernel?
[15:25] <atomicity> escott: what do you mean?
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> jpsullia: just type:   act   and hit TAB, then your text to me will highlight, just mlike my text to you highlights
[15:25] <atomicity> escott: oh, you can't skip one
[15:25] <escott> atomicity, if you want to go 10.10-> 11.10 you have to go through 11.04 first, but you can jump 10.04->12.04
[15:26] <jpsullia> escoot please help me
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> jpsullia: http://us.generation-nt.com/answer/how-configure-nebula-tv-card-ubuntu-10-04-help-198689111.html
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> jpsullia: again, use TAB and it will autocomplete
[15:26] <escott> jpsullia, this is all i know http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Bt878
[15:26] <atomicity> escott: but that only means an extra time investment right?
[15:26] <atomicity> escott: no other hassle
[15:27] <jpsullia> ok letme check
[15:27] <dalton2345> jpsullia, you have trouble with your tv card
[15:27] <dalton2345> is it usb?
[15:27] <GrandePain> ubuntu or mint?
[15:27] <jpsullia> no pci card
[15:28] <escott> atomicity, at some point it makes more sense to just reinstall, but theoretically it should work. given how well the user data vs system data is encapsulated and the ability to do things like !clone all the installed apps, i usually end up reinstalling every couple of years anyways
[15:28] <mcloy> !msmtp
[15:28] <GrandePain> hey can u say program for programming at linux?
[15:29] <atomicity> escott: I'm used to rolling-release distros
[15:29] <LjL> GrandePain: this channel is for Ubuntu technical support, please avoid the "ubuntu or mint" and such things
[15:29] <escott> GrandePain, this channel is not for polling.
[15:29] <atomicity> escott: this concept of an os version number is new to me
[15:29] <escott> atomicity, in principle its not different. its just rolling once every 6 months instead of everyday
[15:31] <atomicity> escott: will apt warn me when I need to upgrade (or I just run dist-upgrade) or what? I unpinned ubuntu software center, it seems unnecesarry
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> atomicity: so "Windows 2000", "windows XP", "Windows NT 4" are new to you?
[15:32] <dalton2345> jpsullia which ubuntu you using
[15:33] <atomicity> ActionParsnip: 1) no and 2) I consider windows versioning retarded anyway
[15:33] <escott> atomicity, so there are some confusing terms with this. apt-get --upgrade upgrades packages with new security releases/bug fixes but not feature improvements. sometimes there are conflicts within bug fixes (ie fix A must be applied before B, or A and B must be applied simulataneously) and that gets you an apt-get --dist-upgrade, but that is NOT an upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10. those come with another script do-release-upgrade (and a gui f
[15:33] <escott> or that) which does some more complicated things. the update-manager gui should prompt you when a release upgrade is available
[15:33] <walidvb_> ActionParsnip: i'm pretty sure i'm doing everything right, just 1 thing is missing
[15:33] <walidvb_> but i can't figure out what...
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> atomicity: its quite logical if you use: ver   XP = Windows 5  Vista = 6  Win7 = 7
[15:34] <walidvb_> if i can ssh locally, that means that on the device side, everything is correct, and i should check only the router, right?
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> atomicity: nothing retarded there at all...
[15:34] <escott> walidvb_, you might have a firewall check iptables -L
[15:34] <atomicity> ActionParsnip: I don't mean version numbering, I mean that windows doesn't have a package manager and that a simple kernel reinstallation forces you to upgrade the whole system.
[15:34] <escott> walidvb_, of gufw
[15:35] <atomicity> ActionParsnip: it's as if you had to reinstall all your application from linux 2.6.18 to linux 2.6.31
[15:35] <walidvb_> escott: just installed it and added a rule for port 22
[15:35] <atomicity> it's retarded.
[15:35] <escott> atomicity, thats not really true. ms update pushes "kernel" updates relatively frequently
[15:35] <walidvb_> escott: but if i can access on LAN, that means firewall had nothing to do with that, no?
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> atomicity: oh yes, but you said the concept of an OS version number was new to you...
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> escott: update tuesday :)
[15:36] <atomicity> ActionParsnip: within the linux ecosystem. Ms doesn't do a major os every half a year.
[15:36] <escott> ActionParsnip, in my case update once every 3 months when i want to play civ fridays
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> escott: we update at work every night, its a drag
[15:36] <atomicity> also, I was using too strong language, I apologies.
[15:36] <atomicity> apologise, even.
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> atomicity: thats how they want to manage updates. NP man :)
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> escott: freeciv..?
[15:37] <walidvb_> escott: ?
[15:38] <escott> atomicity, they also have a different market. their primary retail market is not their consumers but their oems. why bother making it easier for a retail user to update their os when you can just push a brand new pc on them
[15:38] <sebastien> hello
[15:38] <dalton2345> ActionParsnip, why do an update every nite
[15:38] <escott> ActionParsnip, no expensive $ steam civ
[15:38] <Guest13947> i have a problem i don t understand with vlc can t read a video .mov?
[15:38] <escott> walidvb_, depend on how the rule is setup. the rule could be setup to say "local network only"
[15:39] <walidvb_> escott: ok
[15:39] <walidvb_> it says 'anywhere'
[15:39] <dalton2345> .mov is not a video
[15:39] <escott> walidvb_, then it the router
[15:39] <dalton2345> vlc play about everything...but .mov i never seen it
[15:39] <walidvb_> argh
[15:39] <walidvb_> :(
[15:39] <Guest13947> but my video is  .mov
[15:40] <escott> Guest13947, have you tried installing ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[15:40] <Guest13947> no i m a newbie
[15:40] <dalton2345> whats .mov...sorry i never seen it
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> dalton2345: many many many servers, we have a patch approval system so we need to apply them. We're working o a system to push them out. Wanted to use shavlik but its not appropriate for our setup
[15:40] <atomicity> escott: Yeah, I agree. the 'retarded' was meant 'for the end user', not for ms. FOr them, the scheme is obviously profitable, and if you don't have a subscription model the only way you can make long term support work is by major versions.
[15:40] <Guest13947> t s a quicktime format
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> Guest13947: install w32codecs from medibuntu repo (or w64codecs for 64bit OS)
[15:41] <dalton2345> ActionParsnip, ha ok that would explain ;)
[15:41] <Guest13947> where can i find this codecs?
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> Guest13947: re-read what I wrote...
[15:41] <walidvb> escott: ssh is tcp, right?
[15:41] <dalton2345> yep its a codec issue
[15:42]  * ActionParsnip listens for the penny
[15:42] <Guest13947> i  ve read it but i don t know where medibuntu repo
[15:42] <escott> walidvb, yes
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> !medibuntu
[15:43] <walidvb> ok i had created a service with port 22, but apparently using the built-in ssh service did the trick
[15:43] <Guest13947> thanks a lot i ll try
[15:48] <Overloadscrash> hey
[15:49] <Overloadscrash> kann mir jmd weiterhelfen und sagen wieso ich zur zeit keine flash-videos in ff 11 mehr laufen lassen kann?
[15:50] <escott> !de | Overloadscrash
[15:50] <Overloadscrash> ok sry
[15:53] <foobArrr> has compiz a log somewere? crashed a few times
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> foobArrr: /var/log maybe
[15:58] <sebastien__> i install w workm 32 codecs and it doesn t
[15:58] <foobArrr> already checked that, nothing from compiz there
[15:58] <sebastien__> work sorry
[16:01] <sebastien__> my vlc don t read .mov video. i ll try to install the w32 codecs and it doens t work
[16:03] <bastidrazor> foobArrr: i think ~/.xsession-errors has some in it.
[16:04] <foobArrr> thx
[16:06] <foobArrr> -rw------- 1 me me 93M 2012-04-01 18:03 .xsession-errors    93M, wtf
[16:06] <foobArrr> delete and wait for next crash?
[16:07] <sebastien__> i need help with vlc
[16:08] <scott_z> how can i check what version of the kernel I am running?
[16:08] <sebastien__> i don t understand with it can t read a .mov video?
[16:08] <foobArrr> scott_z: uname -r
[16:08] <foobArrr> or uname -a for more
[16:09] <ardian> Hi I need some help installing bumblebee
[16:09] <berni> hi everybody ! i want help to my friend, can u guys vote this page http://www.tinyurl.pl?yxhPld9C
[16:09] <sebastien__> babble?
[16:09] <scott_z> ok, just downloaded update to 3.0.0-17..... and it is not in the grub loader. how do I boot with that?
[16:09] <babble> hi sebastien__
[16:10] <sebastien__> hi how are you?
[16:10] <sebastien__> i ll have another problem
[16:10] <sebastien__> this time with vlc
[16:11] <babble> I'm going to need some context for that
[16:11] <babble> brb
[16:12] <foobArrr> scott_z: try sudo update-grub
[16:12] <compdoc> scott_z, its funny, but I think the same thing happened to me not long ago. But run apt-get upgrade again and make sure you actually installed it, sinece kernel upgrades tend to be kept back and not installed unless you specify it
[16:13] <ardian> I have two graphic cards in my laptop nvidia supports optimus and my fan is making too much noise without any reason can I disable nvidia on ubuntu and use the intel card ?
[16:13] <sebastien__> vlc codecs??
[16:13] <escott> ardian, check the bios and see if it lets you
[16:13] <ardian> escott, no :
[16:13] <walidvb> i managed to open shs, now i'm trying to check if i have a certain port open to the public? i am trying to use the network tools to check which port is open, but i have no result at all..!
[16:13] <walidvb> (sry i'm a bit of a noob here .. :/)
[16:13] <ardian> escott, it's freebios but I don't want to mess with it
[16:14] <escott> ardian, you have freebios on a laptop?!
[16:14] <ardian> I found something called bumblebee but not sure
[16:14] <ardian> escott, Yes
[16:14] <scott_z> foobArrr: that seemed to work on the terminal line. I also downloaded the x64 version but I did not see that update. I will try a reboot to see. brb
[16:14] <escott> ardian, i think ironhide replaces it, but with freebios.... did you put freebios on there or was it shipped
[16:14] <sebastien__> what means brb?
[16:15] <scott_z> brb=be right back
[16:15] <Sidoniuns> Hello! I have a lenovo G470, and I install ubuntu 11.10, but my microphone doesn't work. Does anyone know what the problem?
[16:15] <escott> ardian, and surely you dont mean freebios, you mean coreboot right?
[16:15] <ardian> escott, Freebios
[16:16] <ardian> I just want to stop this GPU fan
[16:16] <ardian> takes too much battery too
[16:16] <sebastien__> babble are you back?
[16:16] <bastidrazor> walidvb: netstat does really well. i use 'netstat -napt'
[16:17] <berni> everybody please vote here http://www.redbullpaperwings.com/pl/voting/PL for my friend TOMASZ CHODYRA
[16:17] <walidvb> bastidrazor: and then the ip that i want?
[16:17] <llutz> berni: stop spamming
[16:17] <berni> ok sorry for spam
[16:18] <walidvb> bastidrazor: 'requires an argument'
[16:19] <scott_z> foobArrr: only .16 in boot list not .17... any other ideas?
[16:19] <walidvb> bastidrazor: sry my bad. this returns all appsthat are using a port, right?
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> scott_z: run:   sudo update-grub
[16:21] <bastidrazor> walidvb: yes.
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> Sidoniuns: can you give the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh       Thanks
[16:22] <scott_z> ActionParsnip: already ran that. that seems to be the problem, it is not in the boot list. just ran grub-customizer and it IS in there. Umm...
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> scott_z: in /etc/default/grub   is the default set to 0?
[16:22] <walidvb> bastidrazor: i have an app that requires 17446 and a range of ports... to be accessible from anywhere, knowing my ip
[16:23] <walidvb> bastidrazor: unfortunately i can't install the app on this end, but i need to get a machine up and ready for tmrw. so, check if ports are open.
[16:23] <starn> hey in ubuntu yesterday youtube looked perfectly fine.. but today almost all the videos have a blue tint? other sites with video seem to work fine.. my video files show just fine. is this a april fools joke google is doing? or is my computer some how messing up?
[16:23] <scott_z> yes GRUB_DEFAULT=0
[16:24] <bastidrazor> walidvb: all ports are closed unless you have some service running or you set an iptables rule to open them.
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> starn: there is an april fools on youtube today
[16:24] <zykotick9> starn: it was an update to flash prior to April 1st, so no joke.  Sorry I haven't heard of a solution.  Good luck.  Curious, are you using nvidia?
[16:25] <ubuntu_> i cant start the system as i get a error message ...unable to enumerate USB device on port 8...what should i do_....i am running a Live CD right now and my distro is Oneiric
[16:25] <walidvb> iptable is at the machine level, and service would have to be set at router level..?
[16:25] <starn> zykotick9: ok apparently windows users have it too.. gah i hate april 1st sometimes
[16:25] <bindi> greetings, is it normal that I only have "auto lo" and "iface lo inet loopback" in my /etc/network/interfaces? no auto eth0, yet it works?
[16:26] <esperanto> hi
[16:26] <zykotick9> bindi: yes it's normal.  Network-Manager is controlling your eth/wlan card.
[16:26] <esperanto> what does ubiquity do?
[16:26] <bindi> zykotick9: so can I go poking around it and it will go by that file then? i'm following a guide on bridged vpn
[16:27] <esperanto> what does ubiquity do?
[16:27] <zykotick9> bindi: ahh, if you specifiy an interface in /etc/network/interfaces it will disabled N-M of that device.  Bridging an N-M might be an issue.  Hope this isn't a portable computer.
[16:28] <bindi> N-M? and yes it's a mini lappy with a dead screen
[16:28] <starn> so, i assume youtube will be back to its normal colors tomorrow?
[16:28] <ubuntu_> could someone help me fix this issue_...i am having trouble starting the system as in the boot moment i get the error message...unable to enumerate USB device on port 8
[16:28] <zykotick9> bindi: N-M = Network Manager
[16:29] <esperanto> what does ubiquity do?
[16:29] <kanliot> install ubuntu
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> esperanto: it install ubuntu from liveCD, please don't repeat like that it will get you ignored more thn helped
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> esperanto: its also really annoying
[16:29] <dugzino> to which the barman says "may I push in your stool?" LMAO!!
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> esperanto: you could have also looked in software centre, it tells you what all the packages do.
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> esperanto: or ask ubottu
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> !info ubiquity | esperanto
[16:30] <rammyIRC> using ubuntu 11.10 in HP dvd4t , could not detect SD card. How to solve this?
[16:30] <ficarra1002> Ok, anyone want to help me? Running into a problem with my wireless driver.
[16:30] <ubuntu_> ActionParsnip, would you help me out please_...if you have time though
[16:30] <Sidoniuns> thacks ActionParsnip
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_: ask the channel and it will reply if it can
[16:31] <esperanto> ActionParsnip: because that's not what i meant. I mean does it copy ubuntu from live disk to hard disk, then erase its self?
[16:31] <bindi> zykotick9: so i'm not sure what you're trying to say.. can i do it or not lol
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> rammyIRC: do you see the reader in the output of:  lsusb
[16:31] <rammyIRC> nope
[16:31] <zykotick9> bindi: yes, setup your bridge in /etc/network/interfaces - but it's going to disable N-M.
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> esperanto: the liveCD runs in RAM, the installer eseentially creates the partitions then installs the packages on the install CD to that partition
[16:31] <foobArrr> scott_z: is the package really installed? "dpkg --get-selections | grep linux-image-3.0.0-17" or synaptic tell you
[16:32] <bindi> zykotick9: i'm fine by that, as long as it's still connected
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> rammyIRC: do you have the latest BIOS?
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> rammyIRC: are there any bugs reported?
[16:32] <zykotick9> bindi: do you use wireless here?
[16:32] <bindi> zykotick9: no, wireless disabled
[16:32] <foobArrr> is there a "better" way to check if a package is installed than "dpkg --get-selections | grep foo"?
[16:32] <ubuntu_> i am on a live CD right now because i am having trouble starting the system is in the boot moment i get an error message saying....unable to enumerate USB device on port 8...what should i do_
[16:32] <zykotick9> bindi: nice.  then it should be "relatively" straight forward then ;)  Good luck.
[16:33] <llutz> foobArrr: apt-cache policy package
[16:33] <foobArrr> thanks
[16:33] <rammyIRC> actionparsnip: i have not seen the bugs getting reported for this. http://paste.ubuntu.com/910326/
[16:33] <zykotick9> foobArrr: "dpkg -l | grep foo" is a bit shorter then the one you where using ;)
[16:33] <esperanto> ActionPaesnip: so it installs packages to hard, or copies the live ubuntu and then modify it?
[16:34] <ubuntu_> is there any way to get to interact to the hard drive from a live CD?
[16:34] <toxiccity90> hi im having trouble enabling my graphics card its a 310M nvidia card im running BT5 r2 which is built off of ubuntu 10.04LTS any ideas??
[16:35] <zykotick9> !backtrack | toxiccity90
[16:35] <toxiccity90> also there is no additional drivers tab. and this is a x64 machine
[16:35] <PsychoX75> hi there. Any of u have tried to make the Logitech Quickcam Orbit work under Ubuntu?
[16:35] <scott_z> foobArrr: yes both ...-17-generic and ...-17-generic-pae are listed
[16:36] <trumee>  does anybody plays game with a joystick?
[16:36] <zykotick9> !anyone | trumee
[16:36] <scott_z> whats a joystick?   :)
[16:36] <esperanto> ActionPaesnip: so it installs packages to hard, or copies the live ubuntu and then modify it?
[16:36] <trumee> I was wondering if there is any native linux game which can be played with a joystick
[16:37] <esperanto> ActionParsnip: so it installs packages to hard, or copies the live ubuntu and then modify it?
[16:37] <goarchgo> trumee: supertuxkart
[16:37] <v3nc3> Hy folks
[16:37] <trumee> goarchgo: thanks.
[16:37] <foobArrr> scott_z: I have no idea then, but I'm most certainly not an expert ;)
[16:37] <trumee> goarchgo: snes9x works fine, but it is too old
[16:38] <auronandace> esperanto: ubiquity is the installer you see on the livecd
[16:38] <scott_z> foobArrr: neither am I.. :)
[16:38] <auronandace> esperanto: it installs ubuntu
[16:38] <ubuntu_> what is the key to stop booting and change kernel?
[16:38] <goarchgo> trumee: if you like fps games urbanterror is very good
[16:38] <scott_z> I consider myself a newbie. Last time I played with linux it came on 13 floppies...  :0
[16:38] <zykotick9> ubuntu_: hold shift after bios (assuming grub2)
[16:39] <trumee> goarchgo: Quake is my favourite, but doesnt work well with joystick i have heard
[16:39] <esperanto> ActionParsnip: one last question so that i understand, if the live cd has xchat installed, will ubiquity copy/install xchat to the hard disk?
[16:39] <KM0201> any fixes for the flash and 10.04 problem?
[16:39] <trumee> goarchgo: i have a PS3 sixaxis joystick
[16:39] <ubuntu_> zykotick9, thanks
[16:39] <trumee> goarchgo: hooked to an htpc. so dont have a keyboard/mice to play
[16:39] <PsychoX75> ok. Another question then. HOW do i check if linux even detected my Webcam?
[16:39] <ubuntu_> zykotick9, do i need to have the live cd in?
[16:39] <goarchgo> trumee: you can map keyboard keys to joystick
[16:40] <trumee> goarchgo: urbanterror works well with joystick?
[16:40] <TorbenBeta> Is there a way to copy and paste a line of text (a command in a txt, viewed on via less) in full screen terminal mode?
[16:40] <dexter__> does any of you have a partition with ubuntu and linux mint?
[16:40] <goarchgo> trumee: if joystick doesn't work with joyutils
[16:40] <esperanto> ActionParsnip: one last question so that i understand, if the live cd has xchat installed, will ubiquity copy/install xchat to the hard disk?
[16:40] <zykotick9> ubuntu_: sorry, i don't think that will work on the LiveCD - that's for something that's installed (using grub2, the livecd doesn't use grub)
[16:40] <scott_z> guess I will start moving image files around and see what happens. I have a boot cd ready just in case.
[16:40] <goarchgo> trumee: or qjoypad.
[16:41] <esperanto> auronandace: one last question so that i understand, if the live cd has xchat installed, will ubiquity copy/install xchat to the hard disk?
[16:41] <v3nc3> TorbenBeta: you should use screen to view the command and write down in another window :)
[16:41] <ubuntu_> zykotick9, does oneiric use grub2?
[16:41] <PsychoX75> Anyone in here uses a device called "webcam" at all?!?!?!?!?
[16:41] <TorbenBeta> v3nc3, there is no direct method? Is "screen" a command?
[16:41] <goarchgo> trumee: press the joystick but the system will interpret it as a keyboard press or mouse click
[16:41] <zykotick9> ubuntu_: once installed - yes
[16:41] <ubuntu_> thanks
[16:41] <v3nc3> TorbenBeta: its just a tip
[16:41] <auronandace> esperanto: ubiquity will install whatever is default for the livecd, i think in ubuntu's case it would be xchat-gnome
[16:42] <trumee> goarchgo: right. i am going to try that. thanks
[16:42] <goarchgo> trumee: :)
[16:42] <esperanto> ok thanx all
[16:42] <esperanto> PsychoX75: install cheese from software center
[16:42] <TorbenBeta> v3nc3, thanks then. Screen has no man page therefore I guess you mean the physical sreen?
[16:43] <v3nc3> TorbenBeta: screen might not be installed by default
[16:43] <TorbenBeta> What are its advantages to less?
[16:44] <PsychoX75> kay
[16:44] <v3nc3> TorbenBeta: Well, its main goal: 'Screen is a full-screen window manager that multiplexes a physical terminal between several processes, typically interactive shells'
[16:44] <auronandace> esperanto: for example, with the xubuntu livecd that comes with xchat (not xchat-gnome) so ubiquity installs xchat with the xubuntu livecd
[16:45] <auronandace> esperanto: xchat-gnome is a stripped down version of xchat
[16:45] <TorbenBeta> v3nc3, so is it a window manager à la Nautilus?
[16:45] <v3nc3> TorbenBeta: nope
[16:45] <v3nc3> TorbenBeta: its like having multiple terminal logins at the same time, but you only need to do that once
[16:46] <TorbenBeta> v3nc3, like multiple shells in one session?
[16:46] <v3nc3> TorbenBeta: exactly
[16:46] <TorbenBeta> v3nc3, but they can interact with each other?
[16:46] <v3nc3> TorbenBeta: Please rephrase that last question of yours
[16:47] <bindi> zykotick9: do you happen to know if using that guide (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenVPN), can the clients reach my local ISP dns servers through the vpn? (push "dhcp-option DNS your.dns.ip.here"
[16:48] <TorbenBeta> v3nc3, with pleasure. My question was: I have several shells in one session, and those shells can interact with each other? So I can e.g. pipe informations from child-shell 1 to child-shell 2?
[16:49] <v3nc3> TorbenBeta: not exactly
[16:49] <TorbenBeta> v3nc3, so they can't interact with each other? As I want to copy a string of text and paste it in my prompt.
[16:50] <v3nc3> TorbenBeta: no, but you can always switch back and manually write the command
[16:50] <v3nc3> 18:50 -!- jenia [~jenia@77.127.247.27] has quit [Client Quit]
[16:50] <evandro> hello
[16:50] <evandro> anyone from Brazil>
[16:51] <v3nc3> TorbenBeta: like you would have two monitors and you can switch to the right one any time you want :)
[16:51] <zykotick9> bindi: sorry, I've never played with VPN stuff - so i wouldn't know.  Best of luck man!
[16:51] <v3nc3> evandro: hy
[16:51] <evandro> hi v3nc3
[16:51] <mcloy> need help with postfix send php based script email .
[16:51] <mcloy> <br />SMTP -> ERROR: AUTH not accepted from server: 503 5.5.1 Error: authentication not enabled<br />SMTP -> FROM SERVER:250 2.0.0 Ok
[16:51] <mcloy> <br />SMTP Error: Could not authenticate.
[16:51] <TorbenBeta> v3nc3, I could just open a new local workplace instead? (doable in 11.10 per ctl + alt + Fx)
[16:52] <zykotick9> TorbenBeta: screen has a copy/paste, but it's only within that one screen session
[16:52] <v3nc3> TorbenBeta: yepp pretty much. im stuck with debian :)
[16:53] <TorbenBeta> zykotick9, so I copy my string out of my txt, then paste it in my prompt?
[16:53] <zykotick9> TorbenBeta: that would certainly be possible!
[16:53] <Kruge> What on earth are you trying to achieve?
[16:54] <TorbenBeta> Thank you zykotick9 and v3nc3. Kruge do you mean me?
[16:54] <Kruge> Yes
[16:54] <zykotick9> !who > Kruge
[16:55] <v3nc3> TorbenBeta: you are welcome
[16:55] <TorbenBeta> Well, I have a rather long command stored in a txt. and would like to use it again.
[16:55] <Lirth> How do I create a link between a HDD and a SSD? I need a program to run on the faster drive but it's hidden in wine.
[16:55] <Kruge> zykotick9: Thanks, I learned that trick back in `95
[16:56]  * v3nc3 says goodbye to everyone
[16:56] <v3nc3> bye
[16:57] <Etronik> mas que ca***o de complicação.... irra
[16:57] <mcloy> need help with postfix send php based script email .
[16:57] <mcloy> <br />SMTP -> ERROR: AUTH not accepted from server: 503 5.5.1 Error: authentication not enabled<br />SMTP -> FROM SERVER:250 2.0.0 Ok
[16:57] <mcloy> <br />SMTP Error: Could not authenticate.
[16:57] <x11>  /join ubuntu-de
[16:58] <mcloy> x11,  me?
[16:58] <llutz> mcloy: disable smtp-auth
[17:00] <mcloy> llutz,  #smtpd_sasl_auth_enable      = yes
[17:00] <mcloy> ?
[17:01] <mcloy> llutz,  u ther?
[17:01] <llutz> mcloy: it still tries to auth, which the server doesn't accept
[17:02] <mcloy> llutz,  yes. so what should be done ?
[17:03] <llutz> mcloy: check /var/log/mail.err for plain logentries, not this html-crap
[17:04] <Doodie> hi, if i ping -f -s 1000 <local ip>, then it causes the whole network to slowdown a little bit. is it possible not to slow the whole network and just that local ip only?
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> Doodie: you are using the -f option. What did you expect?
[17:05] <Dr_willis> im not even sure what the -f option does.
[17:05] <Jacsjees> Hi all i am bit new in here just updated my system to 12.04 but not able to do partial update it fails can any one help me please
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> Jacsjees: ask in #ubuntu+1 for Precise support
[17:06] <Jacsjees> Thanks actuon
[17:06] <Kruge> I wouldn't update yet
[17:06] <zykotick9> Jacsjees: fyi "partial update" = system will break if continued
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> Kruge: been on it since alpha 1 :)
[17:07] <Kruge> Loony.  I`m in the process of re-installing 11.04 on my laptop.  Two days of 12.04 broke my will to live
[17:08] <Kruge> 11.10, rather
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> Kruge: very, but all I use is web browsing and chat and my hardware is super linux friendly = few issues
[17:13] <Etronik> I don't f***g understand this ssh command from http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Oneiric_Remote_Access#Remote_Access: ssh -l serveruser -L 5900:127.0.0.1:5900 remoteserver.computer.xyz -p 22
[17:13] <Etronik> help?
[17:13] <llutz> Etronik: vnc tunnel through ssh
[17:14] <Etronik> yeah! that says in the title
[17:14] <compdoc> port 5900 is for vnc
[17:14] <Etronik> WTF I don't get any of this
[17:14] <llutz> Etronik: and? man ssh
[17:14] <compdoc> 127.0.0.1 means the same computer youre on
[17:14] <Shirakawasuna> some process is running a command: find . -name *.html
[17:14] <Shirakawasuna> I want to figure out which one spawned it
[17:14] <Shirakawasuna> how do I do that?
[17:14] <Etronik> Permission denied (publickey).
[17:14] <Demaier> 
[17:15] <zykotick9> Shirakawasuna: try "pstree" or "htop" in tree mode perhaps
[17:15] <Shirakawasuna> ah good
[17:16] <Shirakawasuna> I kept looking for 'ptree', not pstree
[17:16] <Shirakawasuna> thanks zykotick9
[17:16] <mcloy> need help with postfix send php based script email .
[17:16] <mcloy> <br />SMTP -> ERROR: AUTH not accepted from server: 503 5.5.1 Error: authentication not enabled<br />SMTP -> FROM SERVER:250 2.0.0 Ok
[17:16] <mcloy> <br />SMTP Error: Could not authenticate.
[17:17] <escott> Etronik, so that is forwarding port 5900 to 127.0.0.1:5900 and forwarded to remoteserver on port 22 and the login name is serveruser
[17:17] <raido>  
[17:18] <escott> Etronik, so you run that command and then start some application that opens port 5900 and that gets pushed into the ssh session and appears on the remoteserver coming in onto port 5900
[17:18] <TorbenBeta> v3nc3, well screen froze my terminal.
[17:18] <vono> Hello, I have  a bug, making the screen turn to black, and return to normal a few times. Then most of the time, X freeze (only an ssh connexion and reboot work, stop lightdm don't). The only log I have is "Apr  1 18:37:02 fixe kernel: [  362.222412] radeon 0000:02:00.0: GPU lockup CP stall for more than 10000msec"
[17:18] <Etronik> the docs induce in error... all I needed in sequence of the text was:  ssh -l <remoteuser>@<RemoteHostAddr>
[17:19] <escott> Etronik, your permission denied pubkey just means that your auth keys aren't correct, but you should get normal password login
[17:19] <vono> It's not enough information for a bug report, and this bug seems random to me. How I can have more informations ?
[17:19] <Etronik> no I should not! in sequence of the instructions
[17:19] <escott> Etronik, those instructions are for setting up tunneling. what is it that you want?
[17:20] <Etronik> but I managed to connect, I had to sort of guess the command, the docs in the Wiki are pointing in the wrong direction !!
[17:20] <llutz> Etronik: either "ssh -l <remoteuser> <RemoteHostAddr>" or "ssh  <remoteuser>@<RemoteHostAddr>"
[17:20] <valterguy> may i ask why there are 3 FloodBots here and what their purpose is?
[17:20] <escott> valterguy, silence people who flood, notify individuals when netsplits occur
[17:21] <Etronik> sorry guys, I'm getting very stressed and mad... that things don't work quite right... and it's taking me ages to setup simple things...
[17:21] <valterguy> oh. nice.
[17:21] <escott> Etronik, what are you trying to setup?
[17:21] <Kruge> Etronik: Are you intending to set up local port forwarding via ssh?
[17:21] <Etronik> 1st thing just the freeking ssh server with a simple connection
[17:21] <Etronik> I got there
[17:22] <Etronik> hold it ! wait
[17:22] <Etronik> the wiki starts to explain how to setup ssh server then all of a sudden gives a tunneling instruction out of the blue.. oh well
[17:23] <Etronik> ok, now to setup some sort of VNC server on the destination machine
[17:23] <Kruge> No, it quite clearly includes port forwarding under the heading "Port forwarding through SSH"
[17:23] <valterguy> escott: so, they keep a connection between them and when a netsplit occurs, they just resend the messages to the parts which have been split off?
[17:23] <compdoc> Etronik, vnc4server is excellent
[17:23] <llutz> Etronik: you shouldn't read the "commandlines" only in that tutorial, the text between explains quite well what it does
[17:24] <zykotick9> TorbenBeta: as you sure?  try ctrl+a (release) then ".  do you get a list?  screen is kinda difficult to use at first.
[17:24] <escott> valterguy, no, they just notify. they are normal clients themselves. i think there are multiple so that in the event of a netsplit its more likely there will be one on your component of the network.
[17:24] <Etronik> llutz, no it doesn't
[17:24] <Etronik> llutz, no it doesn't :)
[17:24] <Etronik> llutz, but its ok
[17:25] <TorbenBeta> zykotick9, well yes I get a list, but still it is complicated. Also the man page is rather, err, detailed.
[17:25] <valterguy> escott: doesn't everyone get notified anyway?
[17:26] <escott> Etronik, please mind your attitude its not particularly helpful. the docs you are looking at cover a big complex topic so take it in pieces and if something doesn't make sense ask
[17:26] <escott> valterguy, the intended users of this channel are not particularly well versed in irc so they might be bothered to see everyone leaving the channel, especially if they are in the midst of a conversation
[17:27] <Alazare619> i have absolutely no sound as my only means of sound is hdmi anyone care to assist me in this matter i can output aplay -l
[17:27] <valterguy> oh. i understand now.
[17:27] <valterguy> thank you!
[17:27] <Etronik> escott, yeah I understand... I also said sorry before due to stress and all :-) didnt I ?
[17:27] <Etronik> escott, also, writing fast and abbreviated might give wrong impression....
[17:28] <zykotick9> TorbenBeta: that's for sure!  ctrl+a then c will create a new session.  copy/paste is a real challenge - 1) ctrl+a then [ 2) arrowkeys to start of highlight, spacebar, then arrow to select area, then spacebar to copy.  3) use ctrl+a then ] to paste
[17:29] <Etronik> well the Wiki page says Vino sort of should be avoided cause it does not allow changing the VNC port, which is open to brutee-force attacks - correct interpretation ?
[17:29] <escott> Etronik, not relevant if you tunnel through ssh
[17:30] <compdoc> Etronik, vino is desktop sharing, so you actually have to be logged into the desktop on the console for it to work
[17:30] <compdoc> not that theres anything wrong with that
[17:30] <Etronik> escott, but isn't the server exposed  to brute-force attacks
[17:30] <Etronik> escott, but isn't the server exposed  to brute-force attacks?
[17:30]  * zykotick9 wonders if you have ssh, why would you need vnc? ;)
[17:31] <compdoc> for a graphic desktop
[17:31] <llutz> Etronik: why? if you access vnc via ssh-tunnel, theres no need to let vnc listen on public interfaces
[17:31] <Etronik> This implementation of Vino does not allow changing the default listening ports (which start at 5900). If you wish to customize your VNC connection, use X11VNC instead.
[17:32] <TorbenBeta> zykotick9, thanks.
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> compdoc: you can run all your apps using X forwarding over SSH :)
[17:32] <Dr_willis> Or set up vnc and have a totally hidden desktop. and not share the 'current visible' desktop
[17:32] <Etronik> what I understand is that while I connect through a tunnel, the server is still exposed in a public 5900 port - sort of correct=
[17:32] <escott> Etronik, if you run a well known service whose only security is a password on a public port open to the internet then your security is limited to your password, but you don't have to do any of those things. you don't have to run on a standard port (which is security through obscurity and isn't good advice), you can restrict what ip addresses get to access that port (good security), you can have a good password (better security) or you ca
[17:32] <escott> n use ssh and auth keys (best security)
[17:32] <Etronik> what I understand is that while I connect through a tunnel, the server is still exposed in a public 5900 port - sort of correct?
[17:33] <TorbenBeta> Zykotick9, say to me whether it is normal, that my screen reloads whenever I use the tab key?
[17:33] <TorbenBeta> reload to refresh
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> Etronik: no, it all goes via port 22, as it is the ssh tunnel
[17:33] <llutz> Etronik: if you (mis-)configure it that way, yes
[17:33] <compdoc> ActionParsnip, Id like to learn X
[17:33] <escott> Etronik, so the best thing to do is setup ssh to the remote server, and only ssh. use auth keys, and then setup a firewall on the remote server that blocks everything but ssh. then tunnel through ssh to get around the firewall
[17:33] <zykotick9> TorbenBeta: in screen?  doesn't here.
[17:34] <escott> Etronik, which was that long ssh command you didnt understand
[17:34] <zykotick9> !tab > TorbenBeta
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> compdoc: its great to run banshee etc via X forwarding and have a system with big speakers and treat the app like a remote control. As the app runs in the server, so he sound is also output on the server side. Dead handy
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> compdoc: I do the same, just with spotify
[17:35] <NiBi> Hi , can you help me how to open root file using admin permissions ?
[17:35] <compdoc> ActionParsnip, but what if you use a Windows machine for your main desktop?
[17:35] <escott> !sudo | NiBi
[17:35] <Dr_willis> NiBi,  clarify what you mean  'open root file'
[17:36] <scott_z> /boot/grub/menu.lst has the .17 kernel listed but when I boot it is not listed, only .16 is listed. Where can i find the grub menu list that boots?
[17:36] <zykotick9> NiBi: what file, why and what you want to open it with would all be helpful.
[17:36] <Dr_willis> compdoc,  xming = an x server for windows.
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> compdoc: then you'll not be able to do it and you can use rdesktop to control but the interface will be the desktop and won't be as seamless. You CAN use VLC's web interface to control VLC on the remote system instead which is noce too. It also allows controlling from Android phones and others
[17:36] <escott> scott_z, menu.lst is for grub1 which most people have transitioned away from. do you not have a grub.cfg?
[17:36] <compdoc> I just use vnc
[17:37] <TorbenBeta> zykotick9, I know that of course, but in my other, full terminal no x server, workspace, which is running screen, always shows for 1 second roughly a white bar, which I take for refresh, whenever I use tab like autocomplete, but only once and then again when I press a key.
[17:37] <NiBi> I need to enter file where are gimp add-ons installed ... I thought its in root :-/
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> compdoc: but bulky, you can use rdesktop and it will be secure and a lot slicker. The VLC web UI will be faster still
[17:37] <Etronik> escott, ok I got the sshd, the authkeys - my question is: without firewall, is Vino  exposed or not to internet on port 5900 (sinse it does not accept any other) ?
[17:37] <zykotick9> TorbenBeta: i'll admit to noticing a bit of screen flicker from time to time
[17:37] <Dr_willis> NiBi,  'enter file' ?  you can install extra gimp stuff in the users home dir if you want to.
[17:38] <wassy121_> NiBi: you can install add-ons per-user, or as root, for all users on the machine
[17:38] <bagels> I need help configuring my monitor of my netbook, can anyone help me?
[17:38] <scott_z> escott: I have a grub.cfg. did not know to look for it. (newbie). how do I get it to reflect the new kernel I downloaded?
[17:38] <gobatar> hi, installed ubuntu 12.04 and have some issues with wireless on my laptop HP pavilion 6000, onboard broadcom device. Any suggestions?
[17:38] <escott> scott_z, it should do so automatically. you can run the update-grub script as well
[17:38] <mouse> What tools can I use to bind keys to a usb joystick?
[17:39] <Alazare619> join #xubuntu
[17:39] <Alazare619> hmm
[17:39] <NiBi> I have download add-on from software center , install but I cannot find in in a gimp
[17:39] <DTH0> hello, I set up a crontab task but it's not working : http://paste.ubuntu.com/910408/ . What is wrong ? I changed "0 * * * *" to "@hourly" but It still seems that the task is not being executed...
[17:39] <escott> Etronik, without a firewall anything that opens a port to listen is exposed to the local network. if you have a router with NAT then that acts as a (limited) firewall
[17:39] <scott_z> escott: I have run the udate-grub script and it only seems to update the menu.lst file. it did NOT do it automatically or we would not be having this chat. :)
[17:40] <diablo85> ciaoo
[17:40] <zykotick9> mouse: what do you mean?  could you be more specific and/or give details.
[17:40] <diablo85> !list
[17:40] <Etronik> escott, ok, that's what I was saying! this laptop will be connected via broadband directly to the internet
[17:40] <Dr_willis> mouse,  i seem to recall some 'joykey' program years ago
[17:40] <scott_z> escott: I even deleted the menu.lst and the update-grub just recreated it.
[17:40] <escott> Etronik, then it is exposed.
[17:40] <Etronik> escott, there!
[17:41] <diablo85> !alis
[17:41] <escott> scott_z, so that suggests you are using grub1
[17:41] <gobatar> hi all, need som wireless setup help.. can anyone help me?
[17:41] <Etronik> escott, so I'll need to run the ssh server, firewall
[17:41] <bagels> I need help configuring my monitor of my netbook, can anyone help me?  There's something to do with "tablet mode," I can tell you what I've tried and everything
[17:41] <escott> Etronik, thats the best course
[17:41] <luxgeek> Anyone successfully gotten either an AE1000 or WUSB100 to work? I been working on this for two days...been to most all of the web page "SOLVED" etc...and none of it has worked...I can get close but network mgr will show the adapter but it's "unavailable" :(
[17:41] <mouse> Dr_willis, Does it work?
[17:41] <zykotick9> !info joy2key
[17:41] <Dr_willis> mouse,  last i even needed such a thing was 4+ yrs ago.
[17:42] <Etronik> escott, uncomplicated Firewall with Gufw ?
[17:42] <TorbenBeta> Another albeit newbie-ish question: how can I highlight text read by less?
[17:42] <NiBi> Can someone help me ? Im noob with linux ... I want install G mic add-on to gimp . I download it from software center but still it is not in gimp :/ thanks lot for answer
[17:42] <escott> Etronik, sure. all you need to forward is ssh, and you can tunnel everything through that
[17:42] <Dr_willis> TorbenBeta,  not sure what you mean.
[17:42] <luxgeek> Currently on mint 12 (am in their chan too) but as it's a ubuntu based I thought I would check with the geniuses here :)
[17:43] <TorbenBeta> Dr_willis, I want to mark some text in a file, which I view by using less. Better?
[17:43] <luxgeek> NiBi: Is that a plugin in? If so you'll need to move it to GIMP's plugin folder and restart GIMP...it should be avail then.
[17:43] <mouse> Thank you.  I'll give it a go.
[17:43] <Dr_willis> TorbenBeta,  while IN less? or befor hand. so it always shows up bold or reverse.. in less.
[17:43] <scott_z> escott: I have the new live cd which I installed from. Then (with the current problem) not being able to find the menu.lst file (as the forums suggested) i installed grub (maybe and old version?) now I am kinda stuck. perhaps you can tell me how to uninstall what I installed and lets go back to what ubuntu came with.
[17:43] <wassy121_> TorbenBeta: you can move your mouse, and hold down the left button, and drag to select text, right?
[17:44] <luxgeek> NiBi: If it's a script then it'll need to be in GIMP's script folder...
[17:44] <wassy121_> TorbenBeta: That surely isn't what you mean
[17:44] <Dr_willis> TorbenBeta,  i belive less supports the ansi escape/color codes. but that will be a big hassle to put in a file  i imagine
[17:44] <tejaswidp> I am building octave from source. Will this lead to a problem if I have already installed octave from the software center?
[17:44] <escott> scott_z, what does dpkg -l "*grub*" list as installed? (lines beginning with ii)
[17:44] <DTH0> !cron
[17:44] <ansi> sir someone called me
[17:44] <NiBi> luxgeek : I dont known how to open gimp folder /ubuntu 11.10/
[17:45] <TorbenBeta> wassy121_, I'm in text mode, no mouse. Dr_willis something like the -k option but at my position instead of pattern.
[17:45] <wassy121_> tejaswidp: It may.  I would remove one to be sure, or read up on using config options to make sure you don't put shared library stuff in the same directory (overwriting one, or confusing them)
[17:45] <wassy121_> TorbenBeta: ah, install/run gpm
[17:45] <wassy121_> TorbenBeta: apt-get install gpm
[17:45] <luxgeek> NiBi: It would be a ".gimp" so you'd have to show hidden in your file mgr.
[17:45] <tejaswidp> wassy121_ thanks
[17:45] <wassy121_> TorbenBeta: oh, with no mouse?  Try using screen
[17:45] <luxgeek> NiBi: It might even be ".gimp2" not exactly sure
[17:46] <wassy121_> screen you can then use ctrl-[ , then move the cursor to select text, then ctrl-] to paste
 I found it thank you ;)
[17:47] <zykotick9> TorbenBeta: fyi, if you actually have a mouse connected, you can install gpm which you can highlight with mouse, and paste with click
[17:48] <luxgeek> NiBi: Np, glad I could help :)
[17:48] <Alazare619> i really need to get this fixed can someone please assist me with getting my hdmi audio working its been going on for about 3 days now even tried fresh installs i no longer have desktop speakers so my only means of audio is through hdmi
[17:48] <luxgeek> Now if I could just get my wireless working :P
[17:48] <DTH0> hello, I set up a crontab task but it's not working : http://paste.ubuntu.com/910408/ . What is wrong ? I changed "0 * * * *" to "@hourly" but It still seems that the task is not being executed...
[17:48] <scott_z> escott: 4 entries: grub (ver. 0.97-29ubuntu6), grub-common (ver. 1.99-12ubuntu5), grub-customize (ver. 2.5.4-0ubuntu1), and grub-pc-bin (ver. 1.99-12ubuntu5)
[17:49] <TorbenBeta> wassy121_, yeah my problem is exactly that and it is ctrl + a then [ as I just found out.
[17:49] <Etronik> escott, ufw had no rules what soever, so do I make sure I don't fuck up any thing else ? like skype, mail, ect ?
[17:49] <tejaswidp> why is /bin/sh a link to 'dash' ?
[17:49] <tejaswidp> even though I have specified my shell to be zsh
[17:49] <TorbenBeta> zykotick9, in a terminal session with no x?
[17:49] <zykotick9> TorbenBeta: correct :)
[17:49] <zykotick9> !info gpm
[17:50] <llutz> tejaswidp: its default for the system-shell since a while, it doesn't affect user-shell
[17:50] <escott> scott_z, ok sounds like you started the transition but never completed it, which might explain the problems
[17:50] <TorbenBeta> zykotick9, seems usefull but where is the fun than :-)?
[17:50] <zykotick9> TorbenBeta: that's when screen's split screen comes in handy
[17:50] <escott> Etronik, firewalls are only for incoming connections
[17:51] <escott> Etronik, at least they way ufw will set them up they are only for incoming
[17:51] <scott_z> escott: my wife says the same thing.  :)
[17:51] <Etronik> skype is incoming no ?
[17:51] <TorbenBeta> How can I close a screen in screen?
[17:51] <Etronik> skype is or has...
[17:52] <Etronik> incoming connections or traffic
[17:53] <zykotick9> TorbenBeta: to split screen - 1) ctrl+a then S 2) ctrl+a then TAB to switch between them 3) ctrl+a then X to close selected
[17:53] <scott_z> escott: Any suggestions?
[17:53] <tejaswidp> thanks llutz
[17:54] <zykotick9> TorbenBeta: screen in screen?
[17:54] <imv> Hi, do you know how do I get dwm to run at startup on Ubuntu 10.04? I installed it, and it appears as an option at log-in, but even if i choose it, I still get gnome (I tried killing gnome, but then I just get another window manager, and if I try killing xorg I'm taken back to the login screen)
[17:55] <demoniccow> Debian or Ubuntu? I know ubuntu is based of of debian but wich one should i use?
[17:55] <ikonia> up to you
[17:55] <ikonia> it's your decision
[17:55] <DropsOfSerenity> Are there any plans for a "gaming mode" in unity, compiz really negatively affects framerates in fullscreen games by as much as 20-30 fps,  it would be helpful if there were a mode where compiz is temporarily suspended or disabled. I was wondering if there was any talk or plans for this?
[17:55] <ikonia> DropsOfSerenity: no
[17:55] <demoniccow> Wich is more stable>
[17:55] <demoniccow> *?
[17:56] <ikonia> demoniccow: depends on your needs/use - both are stable
[17:56] <escott> scott_z, cant find the migration docs anymore, but they are pretty old. i would start by apt-get --remove apt-get --purge grub-common, and then apt-get --install grub-common. then try and reboot (have a livecd handy) and verify you see grub2, then if you boot successfully with grub2 apt-get --remove apt-get --purge grb
[17:57] <wassy121_> TorbenBeta: yeah, sorry, ctrl-a [ , ctrl-a ]  for cut/paste.  Glad that helped
[17:58] <zykotick9> ikonia: depends on you definition of stable.  with the policy change for firefox getting version updates during releases, only debian stable is "stable" as var as version stability these days, ubuntu is not.
[17:59] <Quantum_Ion> What about Google Stable ?
[17:59] <wassy121_> TorbenBeta: to close a screen, you can ctrl-d for "EOF", or ctrl-a k for a hard kill (I think it sends -9)
[17:59] <razmataz> anyone know why when i nomodeset as the boot option for 'try ubuntu without installing', it sends me to the co mmand line rather than the gui desktop environment?
[17:59] <Quantum_Ion> Google-Chrome stable that is
[17:59] <imv> Hi, do you know how do I get dwm to run at startup on Ubuntu 10.04? I installed it, and it appears as an option at log-in, but even if i choose it, I still get gnome (I tried killing gnome, but then I just get another window manager, and if I try killing xorg I'm taken back to the login screen) Anyone? Please? :D
[17:59] <ikonia> what about it ?
[17:59] <ikonia> zykotick9: technically, I fully agree
[18:00] <Quantum_Ion> I use Google Chrome for most tings but for long downloads I use Firefox becauce you can pause and start the download
[18:00] <TorbenBeta> wassy121_, so I absolutly won't use it.
[18:00] <ikonia> Quantum_Ion: so ?
[18:01] <Quantum_Ion> ikonia, When I download Ubuntu Linux LTS editions I use Firefox because it has the download pause feature
[18:01] <ikonia> Quantum_Ion: why are you telling me this ?
[18:01] <Quantum_Ion> ikonia, lol oh I must have confused you with someone else
[18:03] <razmataz> anyone know why when i nomodeset as the boot option for 'try ubuntu without installing', it sends me to the co mmand line rather than the gui desktop environment?
[18:03] <ikonia> razmataz: possibly because it can't deal with your card
[18:03] <Quantum_Ion> lol
[18:03] <Quantum_Ion> razmataz, try without nomodset
[18:04] <razmataz> ikonia: hmm. i'd like to delete loads of parititons but mac osx lion won't let me delete swap space etc. i can't load it without nomodeset and i'm trying to load up the partitioning tool via ubuntu to edit my partitions, then install ubuntu. i am also not fond of doing this via the ubuntu installer. anyone have any suggestions?
[18:05] <ikonia> razmataz: why can't your mac install delete swap ?
[18:05] <razmataz> ikonia: don't know. using disk utility it says it can't remove it.. i'm no osx buff so i couldn't tell y ou more details re that
[18:06] <ikonia> razmataz: if the livecd and the install won't work with "nomodeset" then it's possible your card is not supported
[18:06] <arsenico> hello, can u tell me a name of a program to put sound effects to a microphone? I'm doing internet radio...
[18:06] <razmataz> ikonia: install will work livecd will not it seems
[18:06] <ikonia> razmataz: what video card do you have ? (ati I'll guess)
[18:06] <arsenico> hello, can u tell me a name of a program to put sound effects to a microphone? I'm doing internet radio...
[18:06] <Quantum_Ion> razmataz, Use Parted Magic a free partitioner download the iso http://partedmagic.com/doku.php?id=downloads
[18:07] <razmataz> ikonia: nay, nvidia ... 8m series? it's a 2008 macbook pro
[18:07] <wassy121_> razmataz: gparted is another great alternative.
[18:07] <ikonia> arsenico: please don't just ask the same question seconds apart
[18:07] <arsenico> ikonia, okay
[18:07] <ikonia> razmataz: ok, so an nvidia which may need the closed source driver to work
[18:07] <ikonia> razmataz: that driver is not on the livecd, so that "may" be your issue
[18:07] <g00denough> any suggestions for a simple tool/script to cut-off xx seconds from mp3-files with variable length? i'd hate to fiddle with mp3length/mp3splt
[18:07] <razmataz> wassy121_: hmm. i remember trying gparted (or trying to try it).. will see if it lets me load it up
[18:08] <ikonia> razmataz: if I can suggest the gparted livecd, it's meant for just partitioning disks and uses the vesa driver for compatability
[18:08] <NetRunnerBlack> I'm having some newbie issues with Banshee, anyone willing to give me a hand?
[18:08] <Quantum_Ion> Parted Magic will delete all those unwanted partitions for sure -
[18:08] <Quantum_Ion> http://partedmagic.com/doku.php?id=downloads
[18:08] <razmataz> ikonia: oke doke, will try it again. Quantum_Ion will check it out thanks
[18:09] <arsenico> well I think you can't help me
[18:09] <Quantum_Ion> Parted Magic is Linux based too
[18:09] <ikonia> arsenico: as no-one has answered, I don't know how you can think that, but fair enough.
[18:10] <arsenico> ikonia, I don't get angry for that kind of stuff
[18:10] <Quantum_Ion> g00denough, Did you try audacity to edit mp3's
[18:10] <Etronik> DynDNA.com has gone commercial - any good current alterntives?
[18:10] <arsenico> I'll wait for someone who knows, and that's all bro
[18:10] <ikonia> arsenico: no-one is getting angry
[18:10] <wassy121_> everyone, calm down
[18:11] <g00denough> Quantum_Ion: its ok for single files, not for some hundred mp3s
[18:11] <Etronik> DynDNS.com (not DynDNA...) has gone commercial - any good current alterntives?
[18:11] <NetRunnerBlack> I have an album that I downloaded and, on download, it worked with the album cover and stuff set, though the artist name was wrong. When I changed the artist name, it removed the album cover. Halp?
[18:11] <arsenico> ikonia, I c...
[18:11] <Quantum_Ion> Etronik, Google Free WebHosting sites
[18:12] <arsenico> ikonia, can I set audacity to do that I guess...
[18:12] <auronandace> Etronik: not really a ubuntu related question
[18:12] <Alazare619> i have a mcp67 nvidia nforce 630 hdmi audio card onboard im trying to get it working with audio video works fine with the kernel driver (vesa)
[18:12] <arsenico> I'll try it first before asking again
[18:13] <Etronik> auronandace, in comes as sequence of problems with teamviewer so remote access solutions under ubuntu -
[18:13] <NetRunnerBlack> Can anyone suggest a channel that might be able to help a bit more?
[18:14] <ikonia> NetRunnerBlack: the banshee channel ?
[18:14] <scott_z> escott: took me awhile to get but I think I am ready for the reboot. wish me luck. brb, I hope
[18:14] <ivan__> hi there
[18:14] <Quantum_Ion> g00denough, I use this totally free web hosting, etc -> http://www.000webhost.com/
[18:15] <rafik> slt
[18:15] <Quantum_Ion> g00denough, My laptop is running hot today for some reason
[18:16] <g00denough> Quantum_Ion: why do you tell me that?
[18:16] <rafik> just fuck
[18:16] <scott_z> escott: still on ver. 1.99 on reboot. Any more suggestions?
[18:16] <escott> scott_z, thats good. 1.99 is grub2
[18:16] <paulus68> ikonia: I did manage to get squid up and running however I have a question concerning the restricting access feature to deny users to access certain sites can you help me out please
[18:17] <scott_z> ok. let me try next step
[18:17] <escott> scott_z, now remove the grub0.97 version and rerun update-grub
[18:17] <Quantum_Ion> g00denough, I thought you were the dude that was looking for free webhosting - > http://www.000webhost.com/
[18:17] <ikonia> paulus68: what's up ?
[18:17] <NetRunnerBlack> ikonia: There's a #banshee?
[18:17] <ikonia> NetRunnerBlack: have a look
[18:17] <NetRunnerBlack> ikonia:I did, it's empty
[18:18] <NetRunnerBlack> ikonia:Doesn't look like a real channel
[18:18] <paulus68> ikonia: well I can without any problem instruct squid to refuse access to for example facebook.com however adult sites will still be accessible ?
[18:18] <paulus68> ikonia: even when I put in the sites name in the restricted access file
[18:18] <Quantum_Ion> paulus68, No offense but I hate facebook I refuse to use social networking sites like that
[18:19] <ikonia> NetRunnerBlack: http://banshee.fm/about/contact/
[18:19] <hodgy> Hello
[18:19] <ikonia> NetRunnerBlack: took me 30 seconds to find that on the banshee home page
[18:19] <nishttal2> i keep losing my messenger window on Ubuntu 11.10 (unity) does anyone know what its called and how i can keep it on the desktop
[18:19] <paulus68> Quantum_Ion: it was just an example :p
[18:19] <ikonia> paulus68: how are you restricting access to facebook (for example)
[18:19] <Dj_FlyBy> got a script that wants to run a part of 'libav-tools' which I can't find in Ubuntu (10.10). Where/How can I find this
[18:20] <hodgy> Anyone using 12.04 beta?
[18:20] <ikonia> hodgy: people in #ubuntu+1 channel are
[18:20] <auronandace> !12.04 | hodgy
[18:20] <NetRunnerBlack> ikonia: Sorry I came to the #ubuntu channel for asking about Ubuntu's default MP# player then
[18:20] <paulus68> ikonia: using this tutorial http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/wiki/index.php/Quick_HOWTO_:_Ch32_:_Controlling_Web_Access_with_Squid#Squid_Configuration_Files and then the section of Restricting Access to specific Web sites
[18:20] <NetRunnerBlack> mp3*
[18:20] <ikonia> NetRunnerBlack: yes, then you asked for a channel for more specific help
[18:21] <hodgy> Thanks ikonia
[18:21] <ikonia> paulus68: again - not asking you what guide you are using, I'm asking YOU how you are restricting the site
[18:23] <Quantum_Ion> I wonder what Ubuntu 12.04 will be like I am still using 10.04 LTS
[18:23] <paulus68> ikonia: I added this line acl BadSites  dstdomain "/etc/squid/restricted-sites.squid"  then under the tag http_access I added this http_access deny BadSites followed by http_access allow ncsa_users in the file itself I mentioned for example facebook.com and yahoo.com which is working correctly
[18:23] <ikonia> paulus68: ok, so that works,
[18:23] <ziarkaen> I've downloaded the most recent Ubuntu release .iso image file which I want to put onto a USB thumb drive.  Do I need to use the GUI usb-creator utility to do this, or may I simply copy the image file directly to the USB device using dd?  (I'm on Debian)
[18:24] <yeats> Dj_FlyBy: this *may* help: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libav - it doesn't have "libav-tools" but I see "libavutil" which may be the same thing... all the caveats about using PPAs apply of course ;-)
[18:24] <ikonia> paulus68: so what (what is the site URL - for example) you are adding that's not working
[18:24] <hungryhubby> iam like quite wandering some times here,cannot find right answers most of the time...........help me with new system buying tips thats mostly compatible with ubuntu
[18:24] <bastidrazor> hungryhubby: system76.com
[18:24] <Quantum_Ion> hungryhubby, Are you planning to buy a laptop or desktop ?
[18:24] <ikonia> paulus68: got the pm, let me just check it
[18:24] <paulus68> ikonia: ok
[18:25] <escott> paulus68, you should also modify your iptables to refuse non-root/non-squid access to port 80
[18:25] <ikonia> paulus68: are you adding the www url, or just url
[18:25] <satyanash> 2
[18:25] <paulus68> ikonia: tried both and both not working
[18:25] <hungryhubby> ohh iam assembling it myself..........so excuse system76
[18:25] <ikonia> paulus68: is that the only site that's not working or are others ?
[18:25] <Fargh> anyone can help with ubuntu wireless ?
[18:26] <Fargh> slow ping and packet loss
[18:26] <paulus68> ikonia: at this point this is the only site
[18:26] <ikonia> paulus68: for a test can you please put the www.site.com address in your /etc/hosts file and then point it at 127.0.0.1 ip address please.
[18:26] <Quantum_Ion> Fargh, Ubuntu wireless should be so easy for you
[18:26] <Fargh> why Quantum_Ion ?
[18:27] <Quantum_Ion> Fargh, Don't you see the Ubuntu Linux wireless icon at the top of your screen ?
[18:27] <hungryhubby> desktop...........actually my current pc which is running natty does nt show me any graphics which particularly iam leaning towards
[18:27] <Fargh> it works, but its buggy
[18:27] <ikonia> Quantum_Ion: did you read what he actually said ? it's working it's having packet loss
[18:27] <Fargh> ping is 1500ms on average
[18:27] <paulus68> ikonia: to my understanding it's also possible to add just a word which would be refusing access to any site that is containing this word
[18:27] <ikonia> Quantum_Ion: can you please start reading what people are saying to you before responding
[18:27] <scott_z> escott: I have done everything you said. even on an update-grub it shows ....17 being updated but on a reboot I only have ...16 available. where else could this be?
[18:27] <Fargh> with cable its onlu 0.65ms
[18:28] <ikonia> paulus68: you can do content filtering based on words, but that's a more complex setup (when I've done it, it s abit more complex as it has to parse before displaying) can you please do the test I requested.
[18:28] <paulus68> ikonia: how would I achieve that? pointing the site.com to my local address?
[18:28] <paulus68> ikonia: brb
[18:29] <ikonia> paulus68: edit the file /etc/hosts - put the site url in and the ip address 127.0.0.1
[18:29] <DoctorD> folks...it's there possible for me to encrypt all trafic that comes and goes out from my PC ? (ubuntu 10.04 LTS)
[18:29] <ikonia> DoctorD: not really as you'd need every other device you connec to to support that encyption
[18:29] <hungryhubby> i wanna know abt amd vs intel...and rest of pc parts to buy......my budget is less than or =$500 in indian rupees
[18:30] <ikonia> DoctorD: you can use proxies for example
[18:30] <ikonia> hungryhubby: try ##hardware
[18:30] <DoctorD> ikonia: ok. thanks :)
[18:30] <paulus68> ikonia: back
[18:30] <ikonia> paulus68: edit the file /etc/hosts - put the site url in and the ip address 127.0.0.1
[18:32] <hungryhubby> i want ubuntu ppl to do some graphics/slickness in their UI like windows 7.....would that be overwhelming?
[18:32] <paulus68> ikonia: they are both in there
[18:32] <ikonia> paulus68: both ?
[18:32] <ikonia> hungryhubby: only the current desktops are available
[18:32] <paulus68> ikonia: I added the site I wanted to block and the 127 is already in there
[18:33] <ikonia> paulus68: yes, so add the site like this
[18:33] <jgrevich> I have an external raid array (via esata) that get's rebuilt every time the computer is resumed from a suspended state. Am I supposed to unmount the raid or something similar before suspending?
[18:33] <ikonia> paulus68: 127.0.0.1 [tab] www.site.com
[18:33] <ikonia> paulus68: [tab] is the tab key
[18:33] <Dj_FlyBy> got a script that wants to run '/usr/bin/avconv ' which is a part of 'libav-tools' of which I can't find in Ubuntu (10.10). Where/How can I find this please?
[18:34] <Random832> I want to back up my home directory using rsync. How do I exclude my firefox cache?
[18:34] <hungryhubby> why isnt there a particularly nice spider solitaire game in ubuntu available?
[18:34] <ikonia> Random832: --exclude-dir
[18:34] <ikonia> hungryhubby: no-one has written one you like
[18:34] <paulus68> ikonia: done
[18:34] <ikonia> paulus68: ok, now test it
[18:35] <hungryhubby> man...come on iam not a developer,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,then plz tell them to do it..
[18:35] <ikonia> hungryhubby: sorry no,
[18:36] <paulus68> ikonia: now I get the message "this works" since I have also a lamp server running
[18:36] <ikonia> paulus68: ok, so it's redicting it correctly
[18:36] <paulus68> ikonia: indeed
[18:36] <ikonia> paulus68: so, the question is now why this isn't being picked up by squid
[18:37] <scott_z> escott: I have done everything you said. even on an update-grub it shows ....17 being updated but on a reboot I only have ...16 available. where else could this be?
[18:37] <ikonia> paulus68: have you looked in the squid log to see if you can see what it's actually doing ?
[18:37] <hungryhubby> it is no brainer when someone talks about games in linux world?
[18:37] <paulus68> ikonia: no I haven't
[18:38] <ikonia> paulus68: worth doing, sometimes you'll get some very obvious messages, sometimes you'll get cyptic ones that you can work out into something more useful
[18:38] <hungryhubby> ok... if u can solve my issues with ubuntu i would b very thankful.
[18:38] <ikonia> hungryhubby: if you actually give us information for a problem that needs solving, we can try
[18:38] <ki7rw> i have ubuntu 11.10 installed (fresh) but i can't get firefox to launch from the icon in either the sidebar or from dash
[18:39] <hungryhubby> 1.cant run tv tuner card inside ubuntu......cheap saa7134 card in here
[18:39] <ki7rw> it will launch from the cli
[18:39] <paulus68> ikonia: would it be in access - store or cache log
[18:39] <escott> scott_z, do you have any other linux distributions installed
[18:39] <hungryhubby> 2.cant run webcam which is frontech.....not automatically detected even though i have drivers with me
[18:39] <ikonia> paulus68: try both, as it could be it's not being blocked because it's cached, or it could be a problem with the access config, have a generic read for something obvious
[18:40] <ikonia> hungryhubby: 1.) is your TV card supported in Linux 2.) is your web cam supported in Linux
[18:40] <scott_z> escott: only what came with the current live cd install (and upgrades)
[18:40] <hungryhubby> 3.how to undo/restore an item that is sent to trash? when will this feature land in ubuntu.
[18:40] <ikonia> hungryhubby: if the item is in the trash you can restore it
[18:40] <ikonia> hungryhubby: that functionality already exists
[18:41] <escott> !paste | scott_z please paste the contents of grub.cfg and the output of ls /boot
[18:41] <hungryhubby> what does that mean i think linux should.....by all means they should windows does it
[18:41] <ikonia> hungryhubby: Linux does not support all hardware windows does
[18:41] <ikonia> hungryhubby: you need to research if your devices have support in Linux
[18:41] <imnichol> Hey so, uhh.... is that xubuntu being based off debian thing an april fools joke or serious?
[18:41] <_jay> quick question, I'm getting the partial upgrade warning, and 2 firefox entries are grayed out in the list to be updated, does this mean ff won't get totally updated?
[18:42] <ratcheer> imnichol: It is a long known fact that Ubuntu is based on Debian.
[18:42] <hungryhubby> but u have to manually go to trash and copy that file or files to particular place on harddrive rather windows does restore it to its original location
[18:42] <escott> _jay, you probably just need to run the upgrade twice doing a dist-upgrade after the initial upgrade
[18:43] <ikonia> hungryhubby: I believe you can restore like windows
[18:43] <_jay> ok thanks
[18:43] <Dj_FlyBy> got a script that wants to run '/usr/bin/avconv ' which is a part of 'libav-tools' of which I can't find in Ubuntu (10.10). Where/How can I find this please?
[18:43] <imnichol> ratcheer, yeah, I'm aware of that.  But Ubuntu makes modifications to debian, so they're not necessarily the same thing
[18:44] <yeats> Dj_FlyBy: you may have to install libav from source: http://libav.org/download.html
[18:44] <bastidrazor> hungryhubby: highlight the file/folder in the trash and click 'restore highlighted items'
[18:44] <hungryhubby> no u cant
[18:44] <hungryhubby> there is no restore button inside trash
[18:44] <ratcheer> "Based on" and "the same thing" are not the same thing.
[18:44] <ikonia> hungryhubby: ok, then you'll need to drag it out manually
[18:45] <paulus68> ikonia: I cleared the cache from the browser and now it's refusing access to this site
[18:45] <ikonia> paulus68: excellent
[18:46] <paulus68> ikonia: still strange that it's allowing access if the cache and history of the browser is not cleared out
[18:46] <imnichol> ratcheer, exactly, which is why I was a little confused.  I can see reasons that the xubuntu team might theoretically want to be based off debian instead of Ubuntu
[18:46] <ikonia> paulus68: not really, as it's using cache, its not hitting the proxy
[18:46] <ikonia> paulus68: when the cache expires it would block it
[18:47] <paulus68> ikonia: ok fair enough
[18:47] <scott_z> escott: new to all this. trying to send grub.cfg to you .
[18:47] <hungryhubby> ok i get it,the problem is ubuntu is recognizing my local disks(as in windows drives) as removable drives and also doesnt automount them on boot.........which kind of frustrates me often i rather want these drives to be persistent
[18:48] <ikonia> hungryhubby: ok, you can put those drives in your /etc/fstab file to make them auto mount
[18:48] <yeats> !fstab | hungryhubby
[18:49]  * ki7rw got his problem resolved
[18:49] <scut> hello how i can ssh from desktop (connected via cable) to notebook (connected via wifi) in same network ? my sshd is running and hosts.deny is empty
[18:49] <ikonia> scut: ssh user@host
[18:49] <ikonia> scut: it's that simple
[18:49] <hungryhubby> i have gone through these manuals and know the procedure to do it,,,,but why this world ubuntu doesnt do it automagically even kubuntu does it....
[18:50] <scut> ikonia: ssh@hostname ?
[18:50] <scut> ikonia: or ip ?
[18:50] <ikonia> hungryhubby: it depends how the desktop is configured
[18:50] <scut> well
[18:50] <scut> ikonia: well that doesn't matter...it seems i cant see my laptop
[18:50] <ikonia> scut: if you have dns sshuser @hostname, if not ssh user@ip
[18:50] <hungryhubby> i like kde handles things but still it hasnt grown to ubuntu standards
[18:50] <ki7rw> scut: it can be the hostname or the ip
[18:50] <escott> !paste | scott_z please don't attempt to send files
[18:50] <paulus68> ikonia: what is a correct way to allow for instant adults to go to facebook.com while the kids are not allowed to use facebook?
[18:51] <scut> ki7rw: ikonia: i get operation timeout
[18:51] <ikonia> hungryhubby: look, let me make it clear for you. If know how to make the things automount, why are you asking "how do I make them automount" - if you want to just complain to try to make a point, don't bother, it won't end well. If you want help resolving issues, great, that's what we are here for
[18:51] <ki7rw> scut: add -p #### if you're using a port other than the standard port 22
[18:51] <varikonniemi> hello, i have a weird problem that came out of nowhere... all the faces are blue when i watch video on eg. youtube
[18:51] <scut> ki7rw: using 22
[18:51] <hungryhubby> u mean every time i reinstall ubuntu i have to edit fstab to get my drives to be persistent?
[18:51] <ikonia> paulus68: user auth make a group that uses the deny list, add the users to it, then everyone else doesn't
[18:51] <ki7rw> scut: run nmap to see if the port is open
[18:51] <scott_z> escott: let me try something else. still trying to get the hang of this all cut and paste is different. think I got it
[18:52] <ikonia> scut: on your laptop please do "ssh localhost"
[18:52] <ikonia> scut: do you get a connection ?
[18:52] <scut> ikonia: it works
[18:52] <scut> ikonia: yeah
[18:52] <xi_> @varikoniemmi : buy a new lappi ..
[18:52] <paulus68> ikonia: ok
[18:52] <xi_> gift me the older one !
[18:52] <hungryhubby> i want that question to ubuntu developers
[18:52] <ikonia> scut: what is your laptops IP address ?
[18:52] <varikonniemi> xi_, what?
[18:52] <ikonia> hungryhubby: then you need to log a bug
[18:52] <ikonia> hungryhubby: or log a feature request
[18:53] <varikonniemi> it is like the colors get swapped or something
[18:53] <sebastien> i have a problem
[18:53] <scut> ikonia: that was the correct question :D...it works now..i missed that
[18:54] <xi_> i want to be a hacker
[18:54] <Guest71252> i cant install packages from logitec
[18:54] <xi_> what do i do
[18:54] <llrealmanll> my keyboard not work
[18:54] <xi_> how to be a hacker
[18:54] <llrealmanll> how cani run virtual keyboard with mouse
[18:54] <llrealmanll> i use ubuntu 11.04 gnome 2.x
[18:54] <xi_> tell me please ... ! :( its urgent ... !!
[18:54] <ikonia> scut: great, well done
[18:54] <ikonia> xi_: nothing to do with this channel, we don't teach that
[18:54] <atomicity> xi_: you trollin, we hatin'
[18:54] <scott_z> escott: did i do that right?
[18:55] <xi_> oops sorry .... m leaving!
[18:55] <Lirth> How would I create a symlink to move my steam games onto my SSD?
[18:55] <escott> scott_z, paste it into paste.ubunut.com and then submit and post the link here
[18:55] <hungryhubby> ok for now,how about changing colors of taskbar.....panels?
[18:55] <ikonia> hungryhubby: I don't believe that is supported yet, but I don't know for certain
[18:55] <llutz> Lirth: ln -s /where/the/games/are /home/where/you/want/thelink
[18:55] <scott_z> escott: ok here is the first - http://paste.ubuntu.com/910524/
[18:55] <Guest71252> error aptdaemon
[18:56] <scott_z> escott: and the 2nd - http://paste.ubuntu.com/910523/
[18:56] <Guest71252> i don t understand
[18:56] <scott_z> escott: now I think I understand
[18:56] <scott_z> remember, i am a newbie
[18:56] <yeats> !details | Guest71252
[18:57] <Yaaaaaa> whats the easiest way to upgrade??
[18:57] <escott> scott_z, and when you do "sudo update-grub" does it find vmlinuz-3.0.0-17-generic-pae?
[18:57] <Guest71252> ok i use ubuntu 10.11 oneric
[18:57] <Guest71252> i try to install an application and i have a message error
[18:58] <bastidrazor> !upgrade | Yaaaaaa
[18:58] <Guest71252> apt daemon failde
[18:58] <Guest71252> this error "Traceback (most recent call last):
[18:58] <Guest71252>   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/aptdaemon/worker.py", line 968, in simulate
[18:58] <Guest71252>     trans.unauthenticated = self._simulate_helper(trans)
[18:58] <Guest71252>   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/aptdaemon/worker.py", line 1092, in _simulate_helper
[18:58] <Guest71252>     return depends, self._cache.required_download, \
[18:58] <FloodBot1> Guest71252: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:58] <Guest71252>   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/apt/cache.py", line 235, in required_download
[18:59] <Lirth> llutz: so how do I direct it from the HDD to the SSD? I understand that the /home... things (in .wine actually) work without any weirdness but I can't find out how to direct to a different drive (and not partition, actual physical different drive). One is labeled as /dev/sdb (this is where the files are now) and the other is /dev/sda (where I want the files to go).
[18:59] <xi_> can anyone tell me what do i install to manage users and groups on linux
[18:59] <xi_> i mean on ubuntu
[18:59] <llutz> Lirth: you need to mount both drives, create directories your user can access and then create the link
[18:59] <atomicity>  xi_ you already have everything
[19:00] <ikonia> xi_: don't need to install anything, the user admin tool is already there
[19:00] <atomicity> xi_: you can use a texteditor and edit /etc/passwd
[19:00] <xi_> i dont have , it is backtrack gnome , built on ubuntu , but it doesnt have all the packages of ubuntu ..
[19:00] <ikonia> atomicity: no !
[19:00] <Lirth> llutz: I hate to be a bother, but I'm completely new to this stuff. How do I do that?
[19:00] <atomicity> ikonia: that's what I always do :)
[19:00] <ikonia> xi_: #backtrack-linux is yuour support channel then
[19:00] <xi_> it doesnt have any users n groups manager with a GUI
[19:00] <llutz> Lirth: does /dev/sda have any partitions yet?
[19:00] <ikonia> xi_: #backtrack-linux is yuour support channel then
[19:01] <Guest71252> somebody could help me?
[19:01] <atomicity> ikonia: then again I'm from the time that /etc/shadow was unstable :)
[19:01] <Lirth> llutz: I made the partition table and partition today.
[19:01] <llutz> Lirth: what filesystem?
[19:01] <Lirth> llutz: ext4 and msdos
[19:01] <Lirth> llutz: I'm not sure what they mean, it was just the agreed on ones when I asked.
[19:02] <marscher> is someone experiencing an eclipse startup error after upgrade to precise eclipse?
[19:02] <xi_> what is the name of any such manager in ubuntu
[19:02] <xi_> samw would work for me .. if anyone know please .. !
[19:02] <llutz> Lirth: so add an entry to /etc/fstab: "/dev/sda1 /media/ssd defaults 0 0"    if /dev/sda1  is the partition you made
[19:02] <ikonia> xi_: last time - #backtrack-linux is your support channel
[19:02] <yeats> Guest71252: Guest71252 can you please paste the full error at File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/apt/cache.py", line 218, in required_download
[19:02] <llrealmanll> please i have s serious problem
[19:02] <yeats> Guest71252: sorry at http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[19:02] <Lirth> llutz: How would I do that?
[19:03] <marscher> the error is described here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11809603
[19:03] <llutz> Lirth: sudo nano /etc/fstab
[19:03] <marscher> does anyone have a solution for this?
[19:03] <escott> Guest71252, can you paste the entire error output to paste.ubuntu.com
[19:04] <Guest71252> i paste
[19:04] <salva> hola!
[19:04] <Guest71252> hola
[19:04] <atomicity> Guest71252: paste the url
[19:04] <ikonia> uncle111_: stop changing nicks
[19:04] <Lirth> llutz:  Then what? (If you haven't figured it out yet, I have no idea what I'm doing).
[19:05] <Guest71252> url?
[19:05] <llutz> Lirth: so add an entry to /etc/fstab: "/dev/sda1 /media/ssd defaults 0 0"    if /dev/sda1  is the partition you made
[19:05] <uncle111_> are you a bot ! x-(
[19:05] <ikonia> uncle111_: no, I'm not
[19:05] <llutz> Lirth: err "/dev/sda1 /media/ssd ext4 defaults 0 0"
[19:05] <Guest71252> http://paste.ubuntu.com/910537/
[19:05] <[IFOC]75> I recently bought a midi keyboard, I can't seem to get it to make any noise. The virtual keyboard also makes no noise
[19:05] <atomicity> Guest71252: when you pasted your error, it redirected you to the pasted error output. Paste the browser url to this thannel (the thing beginning with http://)
[19:05] <[IFOC]75> I am running Ubuntu Studio
[19:06] <Lirth> llutz: Do I do that if I can find it mounted in the GUI of ubuntu?
[19:06] <atomicity> Guest71252: sorry, I was too late :)
[19:06] <Guest71252> no problem
[19:06] <llutz> Lirth: you have to make sure it mounts always to the same mountpoint
[19:06] <uncle111_> its showing me ... cannot join #backtrack-linux , you are banned .. i never joined before .. how can i be banned .. its shitting with me !
[19:06] <ikonia> uncle111_: stop with the bad language in here
[19:06] <Lirth> llutz: Do I just stick it at the bottem?
[19:06] <ikonia> uncle111_: you are banned because you are logged in as "root" they do not allow "root" to use their IRC channel
[19:06] <llutz> Lirth: yes
[19:06] <uncle111_> oops ! :-|
[19:07] <jeek> Bad language? What, is "Backtrack" a bad word now?
[19:07] <ikonia> jeek: of course not
[19:07] <Lirth> llutz: And tabs or spaces between each portion?
[19:07] <llutz> Lirth: at least 1 space or tab
[19:07] <uncle111_> okay ! and that is the reason i want to add a user and for that i need a user manager , that i dont have installed ... somebody break my head please or poison me !
[19:07] <Guest71252> hi babble
[19:08] <llutz> uncle111_: adduser username
[19:08] <babble> hi Guest71252
[19:08] <Guest71252> i m sebastien
[19:08] <babble> okay
[19:08] <Guest71252> http://paste.ubuntu.com/910537/
[19:08] <Lirth> llutz: To double check (so I don't mess anything up), I just type into the bottom "/dev/sda1 /media/ssd ext4 defaults 0 0"
[19:08] <llutz> Lirth: yes
[19:08] <escott> Guest71252, seems like the download failed. you could wait and try later
[19:09] <Lirth> llutz: Then how do I save? I've never messed with nano before.
[19:09] <bastidrazor> ext4 should be checked at some point 0 2 may be a better idea.
[19:09] <llutz> Lirth: ctrl-x
[19:09] <Guest71252> are u sure?
[19:09] <Lirth> llutz: And answer with yes for the question?
[19:09] <llutz> bastidrazor: finetunig (UUID) follows
[19:09] <bastidrazor> although, i have no idea how ssd's work.
[19:09] <llutz> Lirth: yes
[19:09] <bastidrazor> llutz: agreed, i was thinking that too
[19:09] <yeats> Guest71252: try 'sudo apt-get remove ttf-mscorefonts-installer'?
[19:10] <Lirth> llutz: Then I copy the files onto the SSD, make the link, and delete the origionals from the HDD?
[19:10] <escott> Lirth, yes (although I don't trust ssd's so i would have a backup somewhere)
[19:10] <llutz> Lirth: basically yes, just make sure the copy/link works BEFORE you delete the originals
[19:11] <llutz> Lirth: now "sudo mkdir /media/ssd"  to create the new mountpoint
[19:11] <Etronik> escott, help - I can't get this tunneling VNC thing  to work... can ya bear with me a couple minutes ?
[19:11] <Lirth> llutz: I'll just save it to my home folder on the HDD
[19:11] <scott_z> escott: http://paste.ubuntu.com/910544/
[19:11] <mcloy> any help with postfix. here are my config files http://pastebin.com/qUbYFarM and here is the error  ERROR: Password not accepted from server: 535 5.7.8 Error: authentication failed: authentication failure. FROM SERVER:421 4.7.0 ip-10-111-31-180.ec2.internal Error: too many errors
[19:11] <Lirth> llutz: Did that.
[19:12] <llutz> Lirth: "sudo fdisk -l |grep sda1"
[19:12] <scut> ikonia: lol my connection has just died
[19:12] <escott> scott_z, apt seems to be confused and keeps updating grub0.97
[19:12] <scut> ikonia: i mean...i get timeout now
[19:13] <scut> ikonia: and also there is a huge latency
[19:13] <Lirth> llutz: is there a space after fdisk -l?
[19:13] <scott_z> escott: ok, now what?
[19:13] <escott> scott_z, can you paste the dpkg -l "*grub*"
[19:13] <llutz> Lirth: doesn't matter
[19:13] <ikonia> scut: sounds like your network performance is poor
[19:13] <yeats> mcloy: have you seen this?: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/rhel-linux-postfix-sasl-authentication-error/
[19:13] <Lirth> llutz: It gave me some info.
[19:13] <llutz> Lirth: should be 1 line, pls paste here
[19:14] <Lirth> llutz: /dev/sda1            2048   234440703   117219328   83  Linux
[19:14] <ocx> hi guys
[19:14] <Drakeson> Hello.  Is there a way to disable the "blurry glass" effect from the Dash?  Dash already takes too long to appear.
[19:14] <ocx> do you know of any linux equivalent software to teamviewer?
[19:14] <llutz> Lirth: ok, now "sudo umount /dev/sda1 && sudo mount /media/ssd"
[19:15] <yeats> Drakeson: have you tried using Unity 2D?
[19:15] <scott_z> escott: http://paste.ubuntu.com/910548/
[19:15] <bastidrazor> yeats: 2d still has the blurry glassed look.
[19:15] <scott_z> escott: now i am getting the hang of this, thanks.
[19:15] <Lirth> llutz: Ok
[19:15] <yeats> Drakeson: as far as your actual question goes, Unity is not very configurable as far as I'm aware :-/
[19:15] <llutz> Lirth: shouldn't give any output
[19:15] <Etronik> escott, here's what I got: a) I can connect via command line to remote pc w/ ssh server AND b) I can remote desktop SSH tunelling (so remote desktop is working), however, when I try to setup remote desktop w/ ssh tunelling I get public key authntication failed
[19:15] <bastidrazor> yeats: oh.. slow to load .. don't mind me
[19:16] <Drakeson> yeats: Have *you* tried using Unity 2D?
[19:16] <Lirth> llutz: Good
[19:16] <yeats> Drakeson: my wife uses it on her computer with no complaints, so yees
[19:16] <yeats> yes
[19:16] <yeats> bastidrazor: no prob
[19:16] <Etronik> escott, BYW, i connect via command line WITH public/private keys
[19:16] <llutz> Lirth: who needs to access data from ssd, only your user or more people?
[19:16] <escott> scott_z, so try the following sudo apt-get remove grub
[19:17] <Etronik> escott, sorry I mean, I can remote desktop WITHOUT ssh tunneling, if I try to add ssh tunneling I get the error
[19:17] <Lirth> llutz: I'm the only one using my computer and I'm the only user created. I think I'll be the only one using it.
[19:17] <Lirth> llutz: So just my user
[19:17] <llutz> Lirth: "sudo chown -R $USER:$USER /media/ssd" then
[19:17] <scott_z> escott: done
[19:18] <escott> Etronik, so ssh user@host -p 22 works via pubkey (no asking for a password), but ssh -L 5096:127.0.0.1:1096 user@host -p 22 does not?
[19:18] <Drakeson> yeats: It indeed has the blurry effect, and takes too long, as a bonus(!) looks dreadful when you are not using a compositing window manager.
[19:18] <llutz> Lirth: now, as user "mkdir /media/ssd/wine-games"
[19:18] <escott> scott_z, now dpkg -l "*grub*" should only list the grub-common 1.99
[19:18] <Etronik> escott, I trying via remmima options (GUI) dunno about the command
[19:18] <Lirth> llutz: without sudo?
[19:19] <llutz> Lirth: the last mkdir, yes
[19:19] <foobArrr> can I hide all the :i386 packages in synaptic?
[19:19] <escott> Etronik, not familiar with the gui, you might need to point it to your public key?
[19:19] <Etronik> maybe ...
[19:19] <Lirth> llutz: And then why "wine-games"? It's all in steam
[19:19] <escott> Etronik, try it from the cli first
[19:20] <llutz> Lirth: chose any name you like
[19:20] <Lirth> Oh, it's creating the name
[19:20] <Etronik> escott, ok, via cli
[19:20] <scott_z> escott: done. (if you want it) http://paste.ubuntu.com/910556/
[19:20] <Lirth> llutz: So it's not based on an existing file, it's the file to be?
[19:20] <llutz> Lirth: no, its the new place for your steam-games
[19:20] <escott> scott_z, so lets try update-grub again and see if it updates grub.cfg
[19:20] <llutz> Lirth: you link it later into your $HOME
[19:21] <llutz> Lirth: so the names have not to be equal, but they could be if you prefer
[19:21] <escott> Etronik, so its something about the gui, and i dont know enough about it to tell you what to do. you can post screenshots if you want us to look at them
[19:21] <Lirth> llutz: but it's creating a file on my SSD instead of copying one from my HDD?
[19:21] <mcloy> yeats,  same error now too
[19:21] <llutz> Lirth: its creating a directory you copy your stuff from hdd to
[19:22] <Lirth> llutz: ok
[19:22] <yeats> mcloy: okay - I just saw the page and thought it would help... you might re-ask your original question to the full channel
[19:22] <Lirth> llutz: No results
[19:22] <scott_z> escott: check this out. http://paste.ubuntu.com/910562/
[19:23] <Etronik> escott, http://pastebin.com/ERCPhMuD
[19:23] <escott> scott_z, uggg. alright i would not usually advise this, but lets apt-get remove and purge all grub anything. and reinstall grub2-common
[19:23] <B14CKB0X> Can someone help me with ubuntu terminal server? - Should I write the information in Bulgarian but obviously not my fonts and displays unknown characters...
[19:23] <Etronik> 1st command works, the second fails - not sure about fornmat correctness
[19:23] <Lirth> llutz: What should I do after that?
[19:23] <escott> scott_z, if things go south you can reboot with a livecd
[19:24] <Etronik> escott, the "-l sam"  is relative to the connecting user right ?
[19:24] <escott> Etronik, im not sure what that means. but the first ssh has a username lojactt the second does not. so i would not use sam and would use lojactt
[19:24] <llutz> Lirth: copy the stuff you want into that dir
[19:25] <escott> scott_z, so run dpkg -l "*grub*" if it begins with rc then sudo apt-get --purge whatever and if it begins with ii sudo apt-get --remove whatever
[19:25] <Lirth> llutz: With the graphic interface or with the terminal (I'll need help with the latter)?
[19:25] <llutz> Lirth: what you prefer
[19:25] <Etronik> escott, both commands have "-l sam" (the connecting user"  - the first command has "lojactt@" which is the user I want to connect to at remote PC
[19:26] <escott> Etronik, just take the -l sam out for now
[19:26] <Lirth> llutz: I may as well learn the terminal form. Would you explain? It'll be useful in the future.
[19:26] <[IFOC]75> any suggestions regarding getting a midi keyboard to work in ubuntu studio?
[19:26] <Etronik> escott, huh? what the hell.. it connected
[19:26] <llutz> Lirth: cp -a /what/you/wanttocopy /media/ssd/directory-you-created
[19:27] <jwilkes99999> I'm trying to give read/write permissions to a folder and the owner can read and write but I want the group and other to be set to read only but when I do it it keeps reverting back to none
[19:27] <escott> Etronik, i think -l sam conflicts with lojactt@. im not sure why it doesn't complain about using both
[19:27] <Etronik> escott, can I presume II have a tunnel established ?
[19:27] <zykotick9> jwilkes99999: is this a NTFS/FAT parition?
[19:27] <Etronik> escott, how do I VNC on top of that ?
[19:27] <escott> Etronik, until you close that ssh session yes
[19:28] <foobArrr> How do I change plymouth theme? I installed a few with synaptic, but "update-alternatives --config default.plymouth" only shows 3 of them.
[19:28] <jwilkes99999> zykotick9 yes
[19:28] <josten> I partitioned my hd with the following partitions swap=5000 meg, /=5000 meg, and /home=rest of the disk space. Is this correct?  Once ubuntu is installed, I try to get updates from the update manager and it says / doesn't have enough space, why?
[19:28] <escott> Etronik, now you open vnc point it at localhost:5### and its like a wormhole it comes out the other side on the same port on the other machine
[19:28] <zykotick9> jwilkes99999: NTFS/FAT doesn't accept POSIX permissions.  I can't help you.
[19:28] <mcloy> any help with postfix. here are my config files http://pastebin.com/qUbYFarM and here is the error  ERROR: Password not accepted from server: 535 5.7.8 Error: authentication failed: authentication failure. FROM SERVER:421 4.7.0 ip-10-111-31-180.ec2.internal Error: too many errors
[19:28] <ikonia> mcloy: please don't cross post
[19:28] <Lirth> llutz: This may take a bit, it's over 50 GB
[19:29] <ikonia> mcloy: you can see I am helping you in #ubuntu-server so don't start posting it in other channels
[19:29] <mcloy> ikonia,  <yeats> mcloy: okay - I just saw the page and thought it would help... you might re-ask your original question to the full channel
[19:29] <yeats> mcloy: I didn't realize you were asking about it somewhere else too, FYI
[19:29] <ikonia> mcloy: yes, but you can see I'm already helping you, posting the same question in multiple ubuntu channels seconds apart is called cross-posting, please don't do it
[19:30] <llutz> Lirth: well, get some beer... i'll have to leave soon. what you need to do is "ln -s /media/ssd/yournewdir ~/.wine/where/you/need-the-games" to create the symlink and test if it worked
[19:30] <yeats> josten: 1) what is the size of the full drive? and 2) any particular reason you're manually partitioning?  The Ubuntu installer does that for you...
[19:30] <escott> scott_z, how are things going?
[19:30] <Lirth> llutz: Thanks a ton. I've been trying to find this out for the past week or so.
[19:31] <Etronik> escott, great! seems to be working... but I'm not sure - how can I make sure it's going through the "wormhole" ?
[19:31] <llutz> Lirth: and if all workd, you should change the /etc/fstab again, change /dev/sda1 into the UUID of /dev/sda1 you get with "sudo blkid /dev/sda1"
[19:31] <AcidRain2012> most google links say that there is 100% no way at all to make cron run at a lower interval than 1 minute. i saw a few links that */30 = 30seconds.
[19:31] <llutz> Lirth: and the end of that line from "0 0" into "0 2"
[19:31] <AcidRain2012> is there any good way to get this done? that saves memory?
[19:31] <Etronik> escott, well... pointing at localhost and getting the remote.. should be proof enough... ;-)
[19:32] <AcidRain2012> i would prefer not to do the loop inside a php script that counts down in seconds
[19:32] <llutz> Lirth: after that, you'll be done :)
[19:32] <escott> Etronik, you put the firewall up on the remote machine, you tell mom to start the vnc (or start it automatically), and nobody can get through because the firewall won't allow it. the only way you can get through is to setup the ssh tunnel and only you have the authkey to do that
[19:32] <josten> yeats: the drive size is 120 gig.  I've been reading ubuntu unleashed and they recommended it.  I did let ubuntu installer do it but what it did was just make a / partition.  Did I maybe do something wrong with that?
[19:33] <Lirth> llutz: While it's copying, how do I tell when it finishes? I finished the typing and got my folders all in order and hit enter. Then it went onto a new line and did nothing.
[19:33] <bindi> hey! Does such software exist that lets me scan multiple pages (one by one obviously) and it compiles them into a pdf?
[19:33] <llutz> Lirth: you got a new prompt on the new line ?
[19:33] <bindi> automatic process, so it just asks for a new page and waits for user to press continue or something
[19:34] <yeats> josten: by default it installs to a single partition, but you can choose "Something Else" at the partitioning step and set up separate partitions if desired...
[19:34] <llutz> Lirth: cursor should stay in a empty line until data is copied
[19:35] <yeats> josten: what is the output of 'df -h'?  (please pastebin the output and share the URL)
[19:35] <Lirth> llutz: Nope. It's just empty
[19:35] <escott> bindi, you could script such a thing fairly easily
[19:35] <llutz> Lirth: when the prompt comes back, its finished
[19:35] <Lirth> llutz: sorry, I just noticed I wasn't scrolled all the way down
[19:35] <josten> yeats: where do I post that, I forgot?
[19:35] <yeats> http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[19:35] <llutz> Lirth: gtg, good luck
[19:36] <BlessJah> will installing 12.04 and then upgrading give me the same effects as waiting for final release?
[19:36] <dexter__> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[19:36] <bindi> escott: up for the task?
[19:36] <zykotick9> !final | BlessJah
[19:36] <Etronik> escott, uuufff! seems to be working... finally
[19:36] <xangua> dexter__: did you try what the message says¿
[19:36] <BlessJah> zykotick9: thanks
[19:36] <escott> bindi, do you know the cli command to make it scan
[19:36] <bindi> escott: no
[19:37] <Lirth> llutz: And do I need to delete the origional file after it's finished with all those instructions?
[19:37] <bindi> escott: 'scanimage'
[19:37] <AcidRain2012> anyone have any ideas on ubuntus cronjob being executed less than 1 minute?
[19:37] <AcidRain2012> 30seconds would be great
[19:37] <escott> bindi, actually scanimage appears to do everything you need. see the --batch option
[19:37] <llutz> Lirth: i'd rename the original directory to *.bak until you're sure all workd
[19:37] <bindi> escott: okay thanks, ill check
[19:38] <foobArrr> is there an easy way to create graphical dialogs? If button a is pressed, run script a; if button b is pressed, run script b.
[19:38] <escott> bindi, scanimage --batch file%d.tiff--batch-prompt
[19:38] <Lirth> llutz: Just change the file extention?
[19:39] <escott> scott_z, still there?
[19:39] <josten> yeats: paste.ubuntu.com/910576
[19:41] <yeats> josten: you should boot with the live CD and use gparted to shrink /home and resize /
[19:41] <AcidRain2012> * * * * * sleep 30;
[19:41] <AcidRain2012> will this work for cron?
[19:42] <reach> hey, how can i reduce the memory being use on my pc?
[19:42] <escott> AcidRain2012, why would you do that?
[19:42] <josten> yeats: should the swap, /, and /home be primary partition?
[19:42] <mcloy> YeahRight_,  ikonia  was unable (didnt wanted to) help     . what were you saying about configs?
[19:42] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: no
[19:43] <escott> reach, are you swapping to disk? does free -m list anything in the Swap row Used column?
[19:43] <AcidRain2012> escott: at this point im just looking at crazy google link posts
[19:43] <AcidRain2012> i dont see how to run anything less than 1 minute
[19:43] <ikonia> mcloy: I didn't not want to help - I don't believe you are in a position where you experience will allow you to run a secure mail server, will it allow you to debug the problems, so I don't want to be responsible for you setting up an unsecure mail server
[19:43] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: you can't - cron's smallest time is a minute
[19:43] <AcidRain2012> my life is over
[19:43] <yeats> AcidRain2012: cron isn't designed to do whatever you're trying to do
[19:43] <escott> AcidRain2012, cron doesn't guarantee timing. its not an appropriate use of cron
[19:44] <AcidRain2012> when will cron update th is? or is it open source so i can change it myself?
[19:44] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: it won't change it
[19:44] <yeats> AcidRain2012: it would be easier to script an alternative
[19:44] <AcidRain2012> yeats: yeah, but im concerned about memory being hogged up
[19:45] <AcidRain2012> ive already got about 15 servers running on this box
[19:45] <escott> AcidRain2012, you are welcome to submit a patch it will get rejected but you can submit it :). for something like this just write a script which does what you need and sleeps for 30 seconds and repeats
[19:45] <scott_z> escott: this is as far as i got. when i do an update-grub it says it is not installed. http://paste.ubuntu.com/910581/
[19:46] <reach> escott: what do you mean by swapping to disk?
[19:46] <AcidRain2012> escott: but you are telling me that writting a script to do that wont hog up memory?
[19:46] <bindi> escott: giving me "scanimage: argument without option: `file%d.tiff`;
[19:46] <escott> AcidRain2012, less than trying to get cron to wakeup and fork every minute
[19:47] <escott> scott_z, also remove grub-customize and purge grub-common and grub-customize
[19:47] <AcidRain2012> escott: hmmm... so you are saying that even cron will take up memory? ive got like 5 cron jobs running. 1 at 3 in morning. 2 every 1 hr. and 1 every 1 minute
[19:47] <AcidRain2012> well thats 4... but u see
[19:48] <AcidRain2012> im better off writting a bash script or perl?
[19:48] <escott> AcidRain2012, everything takes some ram. what is it that you think you need to be doing every 30 seconds?
[19:48] <AcidRain2012> i do enjoy both :)
[19:48] <anonymous_> Hello, I can't install ioncube, please help me
[19:48] <escott> AcidRain2012, and memory is not the problem. you are either swapped to disk or not. its the constant interruptions to bring stuff out of swap which slows this all down
[19:48] <AcidRain2012> escott: i built a server that accepts emails from cell phone numbers and returns information such as... what is near them. what carrier they have. stats on all of my servers. and so on
[19:49] <tommyfun> Hi everyone, anyone here run ubuntu in a computer lab environment?
[19:49] <escott> AcidRain2012, and you are currently checking your email every 30 seconds?
[19:49] <AcidRain2012> right now. its 1 time ever minute
[19:49] <AcidRain2012> cause i rely on cron
[19:49] <AcidRain2012> but i want faster replys. like chacha
[19:50] <AcidRain2012> :)
[19:50] <Lirth> I was told to do this, but it doesn't make much sense. "and if all workd, you should change the /etc/fstab again, change /dev/sda1 into the UUID of /dev/sda1 you get with "sudo blkid /dev/sda1"". As I understand it, I use sudo nano /etc/fstab and put the UUID="whateverpoppedup" at the bottem. Is that right?
[19:50] <escott> AcidRain2012, thats going to race and crash eventually. You should figure out a way to hook into your smtp server and get woken up directly by it whenever you have mail
[19:50] <escott> AcidRain2012, if you could just get your smtp server to stream to a pipe that would be preferable
[19:51] <AcidRain2012> escott: well right now. it will connect to server. if no mail, then it exits.
[19:51] <scott_z> escott: http://paste.ubuntu.com/910595/
[19:51] <imv> Hi
[19:51] <AcidRain2012> escott: grrr.... that goes back to the postfix pipes which i dont understand too well
[19:51] <escott> scott_z, whats with this grub-customize
[19:51] <AcidRain2012> i honestly believe that documentation on postfix pipes is poor
[19:52] <scott_z> escott: supposed to help me create, orginize grub startup menu
[19:52] <AcidRain2012> escott: what would be easy to do. is check the size of the folder that contains the emails. and if it has changed to a bigger size, to then connect to smtp server and parse mail. hows that sound?
[19:52] <escott> scott_z, well lets just remove it for now. you can add it back later
[19:52] <AcidRain2012> or do you still suggest a pipe?
[19:52] <escott> AcidRain2012, still terrible. what happens when you get more mails than you can process in 30 seconds?
[19:53] <AcidRain2012> what do you mean? my system can send out about 500 emails in 1 minute. hopefully ill never get that much traffic. lol
[19:53] <escott> AcidRain2012, and your next process starts up while the previous is still deleting and processing mail?
[19:53] <AcidRain2012> escott: but i used the php imap() functions. did you see my example script?
[19:54] <AcidRain2012> it only does 1 email at a time
[19:54] <Lirth> rephrasing my earlier question, how do i update my /etc/fstab UUID for my SSD (I already have it set up, I just need it to appear in the fstab correctly).
[19:54] <escott> scott_z, once all this is removed then you can sudo apt-get install grub-common; and run update-grub and grub-install /dev/sda (assuming you have only one disk)
[19:54] <guntbert> !anyone | tommyfun
[19:54] <tommyfun> oh ok
[19:54] <scott_z> escott: http://paste.ubuntu.com/910600/
[19:54] <AcidRain2012> escott: thanks for the help. ill do more research on pipes later when i get back. i g2g for now
[19:55] <scott_z> escott: trying you  next post
[19:55] <yeats> Lirth: are you looking for the UUID or for an example?
[19:55] <reach> what is xchart about
[19:55] <Pseudoephedrine-> Hey, i am just wondering how i can SSH into a VPS that i have?
[19:56] <tommyfun> well, I was wondering about deploying ubuntu in a computer lab, Teh first question is about pxe booting, what's the best practice?  using a golden image like windows and image all the machines or a kickstart automated installation?
[19:56] <RDMonkey> ubuntu is awesome
[19:57] <Lirth> yeats: Uh, both? I need the UUID and I need the example to understand what I'm doing
[19:57] <tommyfun> Second question is about installing software, best practice, is it installing packages on all the clients or installing them once on a master and exporting /usr and then mount /usr on /usr/lcoal on all the clients?
[19:57] <scott_z> escott: did not quite make it that far. http://paste.ubuntu.com/910604/
[19:57] <grusio> a
[19:57] <RDMonkey> ubuntu ala max
[19:57] <escott> scott_z, then install grub2-common as well
[19:58] <Lirth> My directory is supposed to lead to my SSD but for some reason it just goes to a folder on my HDD. How do I fix that?
[19:58] <yeats> Lirth: example fstab line: 'UUID=<actual-UUID-without-brackets> /mountpoint ext4 defaults 0 0'
[19:58] <escott> scott_z, you can also install grub-pc (im not sure what is the main package here)
[19:59] <Pseudoephedrine-> svndr@pseudo:~$ ssh 216.17.101.234    i keep typing this command but it just lingers and doesnt put out any feedback at all.. am i doing something rong?
[19:59] <Lirth> yeats: So "UUID=5e033739-90a3-404e-97fd-61d1ca5b56f2 /dev/sda1 ext4 defaults 0 0?
[19:59] <yeats> Lirth: 'sudo blkid' will show the UUIDs
[19:59] <yeats> Lirth: no
[19:59] <guntbert> tommyfun: ad 2) I'd create a local mirror  (with apt-mirror) and let them do the software installation via this
[19:59] <scott_z> escott: trying reboot... brb
[19:59] <Lirth> yeats: What did I do wrong?
[19:59] <escott> Lirth, the UUID replaces the /dev/sda1 the mountpoint is something like /media
[20:00] <ficarra> Anyone wanna help me? Having some problems with my wireless driver
[20:00] <tommyfun> thanks, but we're not letting the students install anything them selves
[20:00] <yeats> Lirth: not to '/dev/sda1' - you'd need to create a directory in your filesystem that would be the mount point (e.g. /media/ssd)
[20:00] <escott> scott_z, did everything get installed correctly? did you run update-grub and grub-install?
[20:00] <tommyfun> but I could still use an apt-mirror to install to the clients, in fact I thnk I'll have to do this
[20:01] <ficarra> Trying to follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx to get my ' Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce 54g] 802.11a/b/g PCI Express Transceiver (rev 02)' to work
[20:01] <Lirth> yeats: So "UUID=5e033739-90a3-404e-97fd-61d1ca5b56f2 /media/ssd ext4 defaults 0 0"? I was also told to change the last number to a two. Why would that be?
[20:02] <escott> Lirth, you want that partition checked every few weeks for errors
[20:02] <ficarra> Running xfce, ubuntu 11.10
[20:02] <Lirth> escott: What do you mean?
[20:03] <yeats> Lirth: that field is described here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab#Pass_.28fsck_order.29
[20:03] <escott> Lirth, if you want to risk having your data be silently corrupted leave it a 0
[20:03] <Lirth> escott: So the 2 is better or worse than the 0?
[20:03] <escott> Lirth, 2 you almost always want 2
[20:04] <scott_z> escott: now that finally worked. am running  on ...17. Now any ideas how to get over to the 64 bit version?(already downloaded it)
[20:04] <Lirth> escott, yeats: Should I remove "/dev/sda1 /media/ssd ext4 defaults 0 0" or just have it there? I now have "UUID=5e033739-90a3-404e-97fd-61d1ca5b56f2 /media/ssd ext4 defaults 0 2" right below it.
[20:04] <escott> scott_z, wish you had mentioned that earlier. you have to reinstall for that
[20:05] <scott_z> escott: thanks soooo much for the help!!!!
[20:05] <escott> Lirth, remoe the /dev/sda1 line
[20:05] <yeats> Lirth: comment it out by placing a # at the beginning of the line
[20:05] <scott_z> escott: reinstall the os?
[20:05] <escott> scott_z, yes
[20:05] <yeats> Lirth: or remove it - either way ;-)
[20:05] <Lirth> yeats: I'll comment it just in case.
[20:05]  * yeats tends to comment out over deleting lines so he knows what he did in the past
[20:06] <scott_z> escott: s*it! will i loose everything that I have done up till now (like windows, hate to even say that word)
[20:06] <escott> scott_z, no
[20:06] <escott> !clone | scott_z
[20:06] <escott> scott_z, you also can preserve you home folder during a reinstall (backup first)
[20:07] <Lirth> yeats, escott: and my directory isn't working. It should take me to the folder on my SSD from wine, but instead it takes it to a folder on my HDD.
[20:07] <yeats> Lirth: do 'sudo mount -a' then try again
[20:07] <escott> scott_z, so the only thing you might lose are non-standard modifications to folders outside of /home
[20:08] <Lirth> yeats: Nope
[20:08] <yeats> Lirth: was there an error?
[20:08] <Lirth> yeats: No
[20:09] <escott> Lirth, " It should take me to the folder on my SSD from wine, but instead it takes it to a folder on my HDD." I'm not sure what that means. can you be more specific
[20:09] <yeats> Lirth: try 'mount' and see if it shows up in the output
[20:09] <ficarra> Anyone have any ideas how to get my wireless working?
[20:09] <Lirth> escott: It's a link file targeted to /media/ssd/wine-games and instead it takes me to a folder ~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Steam
[20:10] <scott_z> escott: this is getting way to much at one time for a newbie. had way too much beer. guess i should not have started drinking at 10am. perhaps i should be happy with ....17... x32 for now..  are you around in this group/chat often? I have been taking notes one everything we did. would like to pick this back up when i can read those notes.?
[20:10] <escott> scott_z, you'll want to be careful with the file generated by !clone. check it and see if it has lots of "i386" stuff in it. if so you probably want to remove those
[20:10] <scott_z> escott: what is the file name?
[20:11] <escott> scott_z, wait for 12.04 to release in about a month then do a reinstall for 64bit
[20:11] <Lirth> yeats: At the very bottom line.
[20:11] <Lirth> yeats: /dev/sda1 on /media/ssd type ext4 (rw)
[20:11] <yeats> ficarra: did you do 'sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source' and reboot?
[20:11] <escott> scott_z, "what is the filename?" I dont follow? what file?
[20:12] <yeats> Lirth: huh - well if the mount point directory wasn't empty, I'm not sure what the expected behavior is...
[20:12] <escott> yeats, it just gets covered
[20:12] <scott_z> escott: !i386? !clone??
[20:12] <yeats> escott: okay - good to know
[20:13] <Lirth> yeats: Basically, I'm moving my steam directory to my SSD. For some reason when I follow the link to where it is, it takes me to the wrong place.
[20:13] <escott> scott_z, so !clone gives instructions to allow you to identify all the installed software on your system. run that prior to moving to 64bit, but check if the generated file has lots of references to i386 and if it does those should be removed
[20:13] <yeats> Lirth: can you do 'ls -la /media/ssd' and pastebin the output?
[20:14] <Lirth> yeats: http://pastebin.com/0kxWxCQX
[20:14] <zykotick9> scott_z: i'm not 100% sure using a 32bit output on a 64bit system would be the greatest idea.  knowing what you want, and createing a apt-get script would be a lot better
[20:15] <scott_z> ok, now I do not follow. !clone?? I tied that and it is not know.
[20:15]  * yeats expected to see a lost+found directoy there
[20:15] <zykotick9> !clone | scott_z
[20:15] <Lirth> yeats: Should there be?
[20:15] <Lirth> yeats: because I deleted one earlier...
[20:15] <escott> scott_z, if you run it as suggested it creates a file my-packages in your home folder
[20:16] <rebe> what is best video converter for ubuntu ?
[20:17] <escott> rebe, best how? cli or gui?
[20:17] <zykotick9> rebe: there is no best anything.  ffmpeg is very powerful (mp4 is crippled in default repo)
[20:17] <yeats> Lirth: oh okay
[20:17] <Lirth> yeats: Did I mess it up?
[20:17] <rebe> I wanna convert .wmv to something more android friendly
[20:18] <rebe> and I need tool for that
[20:18] <yeats> Lirth: probably not: http://serverfault.com/questions/6753/what-happens-if-i-delete-lostfound
[20:18] <zykotick9> rebe: you might want to check out handbrake-gtk it's not in the default repos, but is a nice GUI encoder
[20:18] <brontosaurusrex> rebe: ffmpeg + libx264 + arc lib of your choice
[20:18] <scott_z> escott: i really thank you for all your help. i have saved this chat for further reference. i think that the best course is to weight as you have suggested until the new release.
[20:18] <ficarra> yeats: I didn't see that on the page
[20:18] <brontosaurusrex> *avc
[20:18] <brontosaurusrex> *aac
[20:18] <rebe> thanks guys
[20:19] <yeats> ficarra: have you tried that?
[20:19] <ficarra> yeats: Trying it now
[20:19] <yeats> ficarra: that always works for me
[20:19] <shawnb> I've been trying to remove Python3.2 from my 11.10 system (so I can reinstall it) but standard package-removal steps are failing.
[20:19] <Lirth> yeats: Does this mean I should reboot?
[20:19] <yeats> Lirth: are you sure that "wine-games" isn't actually on your SSD?
[20:20] <Lirth> yeats: It's supposed to be there. What do you mean?
[20:20] <shawnb> When I attempt to "apt-get remove Python3.2", I'm told that "subprocess installed post-installation script returned error" and it's still on my system. Any ideas?
[20:20] <yeats> Lirth: I thought you were saying that you thought mounting had not worked and you were in a directory on your main drive?...
[20:20] <ficarra> yeats: Heh, says already installed.
[20:20] <ficarra> yeats: Though I didn't install it.
[20:21] <rebe> any idea why handbrake is not in the default repos ?
[20:21] <yeats> ficarra: huh - not sure what to suggest then
[20:21] <RDMonkey> lol
[20:21] <RDMonkey> brono: I read your name as brontosaurus sex
[20:21] <RDMonkey> lo
[20:21] <RDMonkey> Shanb: I suggest burning your computer
[20:21] <RDMonkey> :3
[20:21] <serdar_42123231> Is there any way to disable the south panel on gnome-shell?
[20:21] <dubaco> !support
[20:21] <zykotick9> rebe: licensing most likely.  it uses an ffmpeg with mp4 built in.  i'm just guessing though
[20:21] <Latmen> ciao
[20:21] <Lirth> yeats: I might have said that, I get confused. The SSD is mounted. The link is on my main drive. It is supposed to take me to the SSD (which I can access).
[20:21] <yeats> serdar_42123231: can you pastebin the full output?
[20:21] <Latmen> !lista
[20:22] <RDMonkey> #mechanixunion
[20:22] <yeats> serdar_42123231: sorry - meant for shawnb
[20:22] <escott> shawnb, you need to dig into the apt log and find why its erroring out. you can try to fix that manually and as a last ditch effort you can run individual scripts with dpkg
[20:22] <yeats> shawnb: can you pastebin the full output?
[20:22] <serdar_42123231> yeats full output? I asked simple question.
[20:22] <escott> Lirth, ls -l /the/path/to/the/link
[20:22] <yeats> serdar_42123231: like I said - that was meant for someone else - sorry
[20:22] <shawnb> RDMonkey: If that was an option for me, I'd be open to it.
[20:23] <RDMonkey> Late response is late.
[20:23] <serdar_42123231> yeats sorry for my english. please write me simple letters. it is possible or not? :)
[20:23] <yeats> serdar_42123231: I have no idea - I didn't mean to address you at all ;-)
[20:23] <Lirth> escott: The link itself or the folder of the link?
[20:23] <serdar_42123231> yeats ok.
[20:23] <tpapru> hello, im new here, and id like to ask, that where can i get help with my usb web stick and ubuntu 11.10?
[20:23] <drPoO> Hi all, I have a working VPN connection and I would like it to automatically connect. I clicked on the "automatically connect" checkbox in the network manager but it does not seem to work
[20:23] <escott> Lirth, either
[20:24] <Lirth> escott: I got a strange > (with no user@system thing)
[20:24] <brontosaurusrex> 10.04 server is supported to april 2015?
[20:24] <shawnb> serdar_42123231: here's a paste of the output "sudo apt-get remove --purge python3 python 3.2" http://pastebin.com/ZrG425Ar
[20:25] <yeats> brontosaurusrex: correct
[20:25] <TrD> hi
[20:25] <brontosaurusrex> yeats: tnx
[20:25] <RDMonkey> brontosaurussex
[20:25] <shawnb> I've tried to sudo "apt-get -f install" (as apt-get suggests), tried to purge, update, rebuilt my software sources list, etc. etc.  but no dice.
[20:25] <serdar_42123231> Is there any way to disable the south panel on gnome-shell?
[20:25] <Lirth> escott: http://pastebin.com/zup0nKrA
[20:25] <TrD> i want to add a script to autostart with sudo anyone can help me please ?
[20:25] <serdar_42123231> shawnb what is this output? what is the conneciton with me?!
[20:26] <escott> Lirth, so Steam is a symlink to /media/ssd/wine-games so whats the problem
[20:26] <Lirth> escott: When I follow it, it doesn't take me to the SSD. It takes me to the "Steam.bak
[20:26] <shawnb> serdar_42123231: sorry, that was for yeats... oops
[20:27] <escott> TrD, what does the script do? probably just need to add it to /etc/rc.local
[20:27] <dr3mro> hello after today update i did a reboot suddenly pastie appindicator don't work here is error http://paste.ubuntu.com/910632/
[20:27] <shawnb> yeats: here's a paste of the output "sudo apt-get remove --purge python3 python 3.2" http://pastebin.com/ZrG425Ar
[20:27] <yeats> shawnb: looking now
[20:27] <brontosaurusrex> RDMonkey: i really don't know what to say, sorry
[20:27] <TrD> this script lunch a firewall escott
[20:27] <drPoO> has anybody successfully used the "connect automatically" feature of network manager for VPN connections???
[20:28] <escott> TrD, and you are not using ufw?
[20:28] <serdar_42123231> Can somebody tell me please why this problem had not solved since 2 years: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/562027 I could not understand if it is solved or not (my bad english)...
[20:29] <Lirth> escott: Any ideas?
[20:29] <TrD> nn i installed an application based firewall escott
[20:29] <yeats> shawnb: have you tried removing one at a time?
[20:29] <shawnb> yeats: yes
[20:29] <escott> TrD, add your iptables rules to /etc/rc.local is the easiest
[20:30] <yeats> shawnb: did anything else change on your system before this began?  (maybe installing other versions of python from source or something?)
[20:30] <escott> Lirth, so "cd Steam" does what?
[20:30] <TrD> ok thanks escott
[20:30] <joseph_> hello all!
[20:31] <Lirth> escott: Takes me to /Steam$ for more work
[20:31] <escott> Lirth, can you paste your terminal output
[20:31] <shawnb> yeats: I've been running Python3.2 along-side the system's default Python2.7 for almost a year without problems. I do development and use Python's virtual environments to test under 3.2 and 2.4
[20:32] <Lirth> escott: Do you want just cd Steam or cd /home/(user)/.wine.../Steam?
[20:32] <yeats> shawnb: have you tried to see what "/usr/lib/python3.2/io.py", line 60 is trying to do?
[20:33] <escott> Lirth, i have no idea where this Steam symlink is, i want you to try and cd into the symlink
[20:34] <Lirth> escott: Ok. It just sets that directory. No output.
[20:34] <escott> Lirth, and what is the output of pwd now?
[20:34] <shawnb> yeats: line 60 simplt reads "import _io" ... _io looks like a C-compiled module since I can't find it among the normal module list
[20:35] <yeats> huh
[20:35] <Lirth> escott: /home/(user)/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Steam
[20:35] <OerHeks> Lirth, cd ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/Steam  >>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuMagazine/HowTo/InstallingSteam
[20:35] <Wooooooood> hi
[20:36] <escott> Lirth, sounds good
[20:36] <Lirth> OerHeks: I already have steam installed. I'm trying to get it on my SSD
[20:36] <shawnb> yeats: This is the error I get with I try to run anything using Python3 or even start the interactive interpreter ... I was hoping to be able to just remove and re-install then discovered that I couldn't do that simply
[20:36] <yeats> shawnb: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5003276/python-import-io
[20:36] <OerHeks> Lirth, then run "  wine Steam.exe "
[20:36] <Lirth> escott: The output or what OerHeks posted?
[20:36] <escott> Lirth, the output of pwd
[20:37] <Lirth> OerHeks: Steam already opens. I play skyrim on it. I want to load the games faster with my SSD
[20:38] <Lirth> escott: So nothing is wrong? I'm just crazy?
[20:38] <yeats> shawnb: also http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7111025/pydev-fatal-error-python32-lib-io-py-line-60-in-module
[20:38] <Kristof_D> hi, suddenly flash doesn't work in firefox, I've tried different ways to reinstall it (adobe website, repos, from inside firefox), but to no avail. It looks like the program is there, but just not working. I'm using 11.04. Could anyone give me a hand with that?
[20:40] <shawnb> yeats: I dug into those pages (and several others) when this first cropped up ... didn't help.
[20:40] <escott> Lirth, seems that way
[20:40] <yeats> shawnb: I see - I was just wondering from the second link whether there is a file naming conflict somewhere that creates the problem
[20:41] <yeats> shawnb: you might also ask in #python
[20:41] <shawnb> yeats: no naming conflict
[20:41] <shawnb> yeats: I was wondering, what if I start removing the Python3 files manually and then
[20:41] <tropik> )
[20:41] <shawnb> yeats: and then repair the package system
[20:41] <escott> shawnb, you can go into /var/apt and change the removal scripts to not error
[20:41] <yeats> shawnb: yeah - apt/dpkg can be a real pain with errors like that :-/
[20:42] <Lirth> escott: Any idea why, when I use the GUI to follow the link, it takes me to the Steam.bak (Which is just the Steam file, but backed up on my HDD so if this doesn't work I don't have to download 50 GB from the internet).
[20:42] <escott> Lirth, the gui is broken? i have no idea
[20:42] <shawnb> escott: Woah, I'll look into that
[20:42] <rtnb> anybody know of an ftp for ubu that will let me edit files live on the server like transmit for mac
[20:43] <rebe> how do I remove repo from terminal ?
[20:43] <Etronik> how can I check if ssh server is starting on boot under Oneiric  (11.10) - TIA
[20:44] <shawnb> I was wondering if I did some sort of package installation while I was inside a Python3 virtualenv and apt-get or some link in the install chain got fooled into thinking Python3 was the system Python instead of 2.7
[20:44] <escott> shawnb, /var/lib/dpkg/info
[20:45] <escott> Etronik, the server starts by default
[20:45] <smg60231> Hello all, I am having some troubles if no one minds assisting. It's a lot, and not ALL of it is Linux specific so, be ready lol.
[20:45] <dr3mro> hello after today update i did a reboot suddenly pastie appindicator don't work here is error http://paste.ubuntu.com/910632/
[20:45] <escott> rtnb, using ftp for that is not a great choice. use ssh and sshfs if you can
[20:45] <Etronik> escott, hmm i see
[20:45] <rtnb> yah was just looking into that
[20:45] <rtnb> then i can just vim on the remote
[20:45] <rtnb> win :D
[20:46] <Lirth> escott: I can run Steam now by typing "wine /media/ssd/wine-games/Steam/Steam.exe". How would I make a shortcut?
[20:46] <smg60231> I can't connect to the internet without going through a router, can't go straight through modem for some reason. Port Checkers say ALL of my ports on all networks are closed for some reason, Port Forwarding on my router doesn't seem to do much, and I have all firewalls turned off. People can not connect to my Linux TeamSpeak 3 server on port 9987 because of these issues. Any suggestion? =\
[20:46] <Etronik> escott, how come I cannot connect the same way I did before ? - the command just gets stusk without any further output
[20:47] <escott> shawnb, just remove the set -e in your postinst and it will ignore errors
[20:47] <escott> !info alacarte | Lirth
[20:47] <Etronik> escott, ssh -C lojactt@192.168.1.55 -p 2222 -L 5900:192.168.1.55:5900
[20:47] <escott> Etronik, and that should ust sit there
[20:47] <Cobalt> Hello there, I'm using Natty waiting to upgrade to Precise. In the meantime, I'm looking for a piece of software that will allow me to do this in the simplest possible way: I've got a bunch of pictures, I'd like a program which will allow me to drop them in there, allow me to create captions, and create output that will allow me to view the thumbnails and the zoomed image.
[20:47] <shawnb> eacott: I don't have a /var/apt googling for post-install script locations now
[20:48] <Etronik> escott, weird, the first round I got the command prompt of remote machine...
[20:48] <Cobalt> I was thinking of an HMTL editor, but it's a little too long-winded.
[20:48] <escott> shawnb, /var/lib/dpkg/info
[20:48] <escott> Etronik, i dont think you would. i think that would just sit there until you hit ctrl-c
[20:49] <smg60231> Hello all, I have quite a few problems, if anyone is willing to help lol. I can't connect to the internet without going through a router, can't go straight through modem for some reason. Port Checkers say ALL of my ports on all networks are closed for some reason, Port Forwarding on my router doesn't seem to do much, and I have all firewalls turned off. People can not connect to my Linux TeamSpeak 3 server on port 9987 because of th
[20:49] <Etronik> escott, ssh: connect to host 192.168.1.55 port 2222: Connection timed out
[20:50] <Etronik> is it maybe the firewall ?
[20:50] <escott> Etronik, a couple things. the 5900:XXX should be 5900:127.0.0.1:5900
[20:50] <escott> Etronik, also is 192.168.1.55 correct? thats on your local subnet I thought the intent was for this to work when you were not on your subnet but coming in from the WLAN
[20:51] <tallboy_2> Noob here.  I just switched from ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04.  My Intel integrated graphics card does not support Unity so it defaulted to Classic Gnome.  I need the "zoom desktop" feature to work as I am legally blind.  This worked in 10.10, but cannot get it to work in 11.04.  Any suggestions to get it working again? Thanks in advance.
[20:51] <brontosaurusrex> Cobalt: thumb, or whatever is the default picture manager this days?
[20:51] <brontosaurusrex> *gthumb
[20:51] <Etronik> escott, that was the exact command it worked first time round, and its 192.168, because I have the machine across the lan to set things up...
[20:51] <Cobalt> brontosaurusrex: Shotwell.
[20:52] <brontosaurusrex> Cobalt: not good enough?
[20:52] <escott> Etronik, well you should be testing this as if you were coming in from outside, but as to why it wouldn't work. the things to check are "is ssh running on the other machine?" "is the firewall on the other machine blocking?" "is .55 the correct ip address?"
[20:52] <Cobalt> brontosaurusrex: Well, it doesn't quite do what I want it to do.
[20:53] <Etronik> escott, ok , its the firewall damm it.... as I turned it off, the connection worked so...
[20:53] <zykotick9> tallboy_2: is that "zoom desktop" a compiz feature?  if so, you might have an issue...
[20:53] <escott> Etronik, because it only blocks new connections not established ones
[20:53] <tallboy_2> zykotick9:  Yes it was :(
[20:53] <brontosaurusrex> Cobalt: a web tool maybe, like zenphoto?
[20:54] <zykotick9> tallboy_2: then unity3d's failure to run indicates a compiz failure to run.
[20:54] <zmaj> hi.. Who know way how to install old ati ( RV50) driver on latest ubuntu (12.04) ?
[20:54] <escott> tallboy_2, the #ubuntu-accessibility channel may have a better idea
[20:54] <smg60231> I can't connect to the internet without going through a router, can't go straight through modem for some reason. Port Checkers say ALL of my ports on all networks are closed for some reason, Port Forwarding on my router doesn't seem to do much, and I have all firewalls turned off. People can not connect to my Linux TeamSpeak 3 server on port 9987 because of these issues. Any suggestion? =\
[20:54] <Cobalt> brontosaurusrex: It just needs to allow me to drag-drop pictures into it, into some kinda document, make comments on the pictures, then export the whole lot, then allow the originals to be accessed from thumbnails.
[20:54] <escott> tallboy_2, at least for alternatives, but depending on how old that intel chip is it might or might not be possible to get compiz to work on it
[20:55] <Etronik> escott, ok, so why is firewall blocking incoming connectiion when I placed a rule allowing incoming traffic  from the ssh service ?
[20:55] <brontosaurusrex> Cobalt: i think zenphoto can do all that
[20:55] <escott> Etronik, without seeing the rule i cant say
[20:55] <zmaj> hi.. Who know way how to install old ati ( RV50) driver on latest ubuntu (12.04) ?
[20:55] <zmaj> any?
[20:55] <Cobalt> brontosaurusrex: I'll have a look, thanks.
[20:56] <tallboy_2> 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device  Here is the chipset.  Are you familiar with it?
[20:56] <shawnb> escott: in the two files I found ("python3.2-minimal.postinst" and "python3.postinst"), I commented out the "set -e" line but I still get the same error and failure when attempting to remove.
[20:57] <zykotick9> zmaj: #ubuntu+1 for 12.04 questions
[20:57] <escott> Etronik, you want something like this http://pastebin.com/qdN5beva
[20:58] <zmaj> zykotick9:  tnx man
[20:58] <escott> shawnb, those are postinstall don't you need to modify postrm?
[20:58] <Etronik> escott, where is the config file located ? please?
[20:58] <brontosaurusrex> i have an older install, but i think the default viewer rendering is: thumbs, preview, and 3rd click is fullers (probably depending on user prefs), not really sure about metadata, but i would go into: tag my pics metadata with something and then let zen just read that on the page (that way metadata is embded into pics and will travel with them…)
[20:58] <brontosaurusrex> *fullres
[20:58] <escott> shawnb, sorry if i said postinst
[20:58] <escott> Etronik, sudo iptables -:
[20:58] <escott> Etronik, sudo iptables -L
[20:58] <shawnb> escott: actually I think so, although some of the error messages mention postinstall failing even though I'm running remove
[20:59] <shawnb> escott: I'll look at the postrm scripts now ... one min
[20:59] <jurgentje> Hi... I need to have support for a usb connector for my Nanode... reading the pages, I would have to compile something into the kernel... :/
[20:59] <jurgentje> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man4/uslcom.4freebsd.html
[20:59] <smg60231> Hello, I am having quite a few problems in general =\ . I need port 9987 to oe open. Port checker says ALL of my ports are closed, I can't go straight through the modem to connect to internet, have to use router. I have ports forwarded on my router and yet checker says they are closed, and lastly, my network firewalls are turned off. Any suggestions? =\
[20:59] <jurgentje> But this sounds pretty scary to me... anyone who would help me out to do this?
[21:00] <tallboy_2> Escott: Thanks for the advice.  I'll check out the accessibility channel.
[21:01] <bindi> escott: was scanimage able to make it into one pdf? because i ended up with a hundred .tiffs :-D
[21:02] <escott> bindi, install imagemagick
[21:03] <bindi> escott: btw, there's empty space around all the pages, what can i do to get rid of them?
[21:03] <escott> bindi, then you can use convert. but the problem with tiff -> pdf is that they are fundamentally different formats. one is a bitmap the other vector, one has pixel sizes the other inch sizes etc...
[21:04] <Etronik> so.. uncomplicated Fw heh ? LOL...
[21:04] <Buber> smg60231, add your internal ip to dmz if you brave enought
[21:04] <escott> bindi, convert can also crop
[21:04] <smg60231> Buber: Already did, didn't work.
[21:04] <bindi> escott: smart crop or something? it's not 100% exact all the time, but about
[21:04] <Etronik> escott, I'm totally lost here:http://pastebin.com/p7mduXiG
[21:04] <escott> Etronik, you seldom need to look at the iptables output, you should just be able to use the gufw gui
[21:05] <smg60231> Buber: Also, for some reason my computer's can not connect going straight through the modem, they will only connect to the internet when passing through router & modem... very weird.
[21:06] <Boreeas> For some reason Nautilus takes up 40-50% of my CPU. Any idea why, and how to fix this?
[21:06] <bindi> escott: actually it made them into pnm with .tiff as the extension, forgot to use --format..
[21:06] <escott> Etronik, looks like the ssh rule in gufw is not enabled
[21:06] <bindi> still need that cropping going
[21:06] <escott> Etronik, did you click save?
[21:07] <Etronik> I guess, I have rebooted since, and the enabled firewall shows the rule...
[21:07] <Etronik> weird...
[21:07] <Etronik> trying again
[21:07] <bindi> escott: gonna try http://www.fmwconcepts.com/imagemagick/multicrop/
[21:07] <smg60231> Buber: Is it possible that this is due to failed firmware upgrades? I have a firmware upgrade available that will not install
[21:08] <Buber> smg60231, i guess you are connected to the modem via lan cable
[21:08] <needsupport> hi
[21:08] <smg60231> I connect to the modem via a standard Ethernet cable when I do, yes.
[21:08] <needsupport> who can help  for community relations ?
[21:08] <shawnb> escott: The script "python3.prerm" attempts to run Python3 -- this is where the error kills everything ... I commented out the call and was able to remove and then reinstall -- everything is working now!
[21:08] <shawnb> escott: Thanks for the help!
[21:09] <needsupport> my countrys ubuntu web site not look like free... they are directing web site look like gestapo camp
[21:09] <needsupport> they are using web site look like their farm
[21:09] <Buber> smg60231, and have you powered off the  modem when you plugged it to the computer ?
[21:10] <escott> bindi, thats awesome
[21:10] <LjL> needsupport: maybe #ubuntu-locoteams would be the right place to inquire about that, if you're talking about a website of an official local team
[21:10] <kish> hey i intend to compile a program and i want to install it locally for my own user, where do i copy the binary?
[21:10] <needsupport> not unoffical they are oficcal local team
[21:10] <shawnb> escott: woah, and my virtualenvs are still intact ...
[21:10] <smg60231> Buber: Yes. Still wont connect. The only way I am able to make a connection to the internet is if I connect the modem to a router, and then connect through router.
[21:10] <escott> kish, /usr/local or /opt
[21:10] <needsupport> they are not professional
[21:11] <Etronik> escott, listening report is highlighting TCP6 instead of TCP....
[21:11] <needsupport> they are using offical country ubuntu site look like their farm
[21:11] <kish> escott, i will need root for that though
[21:11] <Buber> smg60231, that's really bizzare behavior
[21:11] <smg60231> Buber: This is for both Linux and Windows system. This is the biggest problem, however... I am trying to host a server, and two days ago it stopped accepting WAN connections.
[21:11] <escott> Etronik, well you arent doing ip6 you are using ip4
[21:11] <smg60231> Buber: Now, port checker says all ports are closed even though I forward them.
[21:11] <Etronik> escott, listening report is highlighting TCP6 instead of TCP.... I sould mention that I'm running ssh in port 2222 not the default 22
[21:11] <needsupport> they are banning with cheats who help noob users...
[21:11] <ikonia> needsupport: stop
[21:11] <escott> kish, you would need root for those. if its just you put it in ~/bin
[21:11] <ikonia> needsupport: that is not for this channel - you have been told what to do
[21:12] <needsupport> where i can write ? mail ?
[21:12] <escott> Etronik, why are you running on 2222?
[21:12] <bindi> escott: multicrop no good :(
[21:12] <Etronik> escott, wiki said something about it - some sort of recommendation
[21:12] <ikonia> needsupport: join the channel LjL suggests
[21:12] <escott> Etronik, there is no point to that. run it on 22 its behind the router and not exposed to the internet anyways
[21:12] <DJ> needsupport, you have evolution
[21:12] <DJ> and much more needsupport
[21:12] <needsupport> this server LjL channel
[21:13] <Etronik> escott, not to run in the default 22 - anyway, the rules were made taking that into consideration
[21:13] <Etronik> I just don't get the why of TCP6...
[21:13] <ikonia> needsupport: the people in #ubuntu-locoteams can help
[21:13] <Buber> smg60231, the only thing i can think about is dhcp , are you getting dynamic ip from the modem ? or is it static ?
[21:13] <escott> Etronik, changing ports around isnt that useful. they can just run nmap and see what is open anyways. the thing to do is disable password login via ssh and only allow auth-key login. then go ahead and run it on port 22
[21:14] <needsupport> i cant join LjL
[21:14] <Etronik> escott, it's not behind the router.... the laptop is connected to the Internet via broadband card
[21:14] <ikonia> needsupport: the channel is #ubuntu-locoteams as I've told you
[21:14] <needsupport> my english language not enough
[21:14] <smg60231> Buber: I am getting Dynamic WAN IP from modem, updated to hostname via DUC
[21:14] <escott> Etronik, sometimes on a router you might move ports around. so i have 5 computers behind a nat and i use port 2222 for machine A and 2223 for machine B etc...
[21:14] <smg60231> Buber: LAN IP is static, however.
[21:14] <needsupport> linux or ubuntu philosopy is free and for everyone
[21:14] <ikonia> needsupport: you will get your point across fine
[21:14] <Etronik> escott, ok, i get it
[21:14] <ikonia> needsupport: this is the final time I'll tell you "STOP". Join #ubuntu-locoteams
[21:14] <needsupport> ok i understand now
[21:15] <Etronik> escott, nonetheless - the remote will connect directly via broadband card
[21:15] <Buber> smg60231, can you try dynamic instead - while on the modem
[21:15] <escott> Etronik, running ssh on port 22 is like putting the deadbolt below the handle. sure its weird and it may confuse someone stupid, but if they can get the key it wont slow them down much
[21:15] <smg60231> Buber: Uploading firmware and updating so may dc soon
[21:15] <escott> Etronik, rather running on 2222
[21:15] <smg60231> Buber: The only area I have a static IP is my LAN IP's as configured in my router settings.
[21:16] <smg60231> Buber: WAN and all else is dynamic, so I am not quite sure what to change in the respect, though I do think I found an error in the IP of my DHCP... not quite sure how to change that atm
[21:17] <bindi> escott: do you have any ideas other than multicrop?
[21:17] <escott> bindi, not really. why was multicrop not working?
[21:17] <bindi> escott: well, it produces an unchanged picture
[21:18] <bindi> i tried giving it coordinates and stuff :p
[21:18] <Etronik> escott, running on 22, recreated rules via GUI for service ssh, added two: one for TCP , another for TCP6
[21:18] <escott> Etronik, and disable password login in /etc/ssh/sshd_config if your passwords are not strong
[21:19] <Etronik> escott, oh I've done that already! it's in the wiki as well :)
[21:19] <Etronik> but let me doublecheck
[21:20] <Etronik> yep! it's off
[21:20] <Etronik> escott, ok, now I need some sort of dynamic dns thing no ?
[21:21] <Etronik> escott, can't ask mum to open a terminal, type ifconfig ans such... correct?
[21:21] <escott> Etronik, and punch a hole through your router to go back to port 22, and then put the ssh commands into your ~/.ssh/config so you dont forget them
[21:21] <smg60231> Buber: Even after updating firmware still shows no open ports,
[21:22] <escott> Etronik, depending on what your router is. if you have even have a router. some will do it for you. like tomato firmware for the wrt54g series can easily update dyndns
[21:22] <Etronik> escott, ok, let go throught that by parts
[21:22] <rebe> sending error report in ubuntu takes forever...
[21:22] <smg60231> Buber: Though, something odd... that may be contributing. My router IP is 10.0.0.1, but DHCP says 10.10.0.1
[21:22] <smg60231> Buber: Maybe I should change that? xD
[21:22] <Etronik> escott, router !?
[21:23] <escott> Etronik, how is mom's computer connected to the internet? cables goes out of moms computer into what?
[21:23] <Etronik> escott, the hole in the router is for the remote machine right?
[21:23] <Etronik> escott, I've told you ;-) its a broadband connection
[21:23] <kasii> hi
[21:23] <escott> Etronik, so cable modem directly into moms computer
[21:24] <Etronik> escott, sorry... i was not clear... MOBILE/CCELLULAR  broadband :-) I'm sorry
[21:24] <bindi> escott: do you know how i can just crop from a certain coordinate?
[21:24] <Etronik> there is no router
[21:24] <escott> Etronik, no there is a router. its what you got from the mobile cellular people. its their box
[21:24] <escott> Etronik, if there was no router your address could not be 192.168.*.*
[21:25] <escott> bindi, convert -crop numbers here
[21:25] <Etronik> escott, box? its a HUAWAY card....
[21:25] <Buber> smg60231, in the case of class A network , all after 10 is network address - mask is 255.0.0.0 so your ip is right
[21:25] <Etronik> oh boy...
[21:25] <escott> Etronik, you said the ip address of moms computer was 192.168.1.55
[21:25] <bindi> escott: care to explain the "numbers here"?
[21:25] <escott> Etronik, thats a local address. there is a router
[21:26] <escott> bindi, you would have to check the man page for convert. i've never used it myself man convert
[21:26] <bindi> escott: googled and found something :D
[21:26] <Etronik> escott, yes now that's here with me, but tomorrow it'll go away and connnect via the huaway card...
[21:26] <smg60231> Buber: Yes, but shouldn't my DHCP be 10.0.0.1 rather than 10.10.0.1? lol
[21:26] <smg60231> Buber: Still not able to forward ports... do you think it's router issue? Or what?
[21:27] <escott> Etronik, ok. so its 192.168.1.55 because its on your network. in that case if its some kind of direct cellular connection then its probably a publicly visible ip address
[21:27] <escott> Etronik, so just setup a noip or dyndns account
[21:28] <escott> Etronik, and their update procedure involves some kind of http request which can be done with wget or something
[21:28] <Etronik> escott, That's what I told you in the first place ;-)
[21:28] <escott> Etronik, sorry i was confused by the 192.168 stuff
[21:28] <Etronik> I just wanted quick confirmation
[21:28] <Buber> smg60231, I don't know mate - it's to weird for me :/
[21:29] <Etronik> escott, thanks for all the patiente
[21:29] <Etronik> escott, thanks for all the patience
[21:29] <smg60231> Buber: Ah... well, thanks for the help anyway. I don't know, it's just... if this isn't a router issue then I don't want to go buy a new router but...
[21:29] <smg60231> Buber: I am wondering if my router is going bad. All  listening ports are blocked, checker says =\
[21:29] <Etronik> is tehre a way to correct spelling errors (à la skype ?) without sending new copy of the message ?
[21:30] <Etronik> i mean... in IRC
[21:30] <anonymous> hi
[21:30] <Buber> smg60231, do a factory reset to it
[21:30] <smg60231> Etronik: I don't think you can edit a previously sent message o.o
[21:30] <smg60231> Buber: Hm, that is a good idea actually owo
[21:30] <CharminTheMoose> Is there any way for me to see how much space the libraries a binary uses takes up?
[21:30] <smg60231> Buber: I can't believe I didn't think of that lol
[21:30] <Buber> smg60231, but you probably already did it
[21:30] <smg60231> Buber: Nope owo
[21:31] <Guest19761> i have a problem with my pc and i need help
[21:31] <smg60231> Buber: I lack the common sense necessary, I didn't think of that xD
[21:31] <Guest19761> ...
[21:31] <Buber> smg60231, kill the bastard and start from scratch - somtimes its best idea
[21:31] <smg60231> Buber: Lol. Well then, I will dc from IRC and be back with the results lol. Thanks for reminding me of that :D
[21:31] <sent_> Etronik, some IRC clients have spell-checking, but it only shows a red underline before you hit Enter.
[21:32] <Buber> smg60231, heh - not a problem - anytime ;)
[21:32] <Guest19761> at the start send me error 0xc0000225 this error means that my hdd crashed ... but not i delete all files at the format ... i am from anonymous live now ... what i can do ?
[21:33] <Chappy> Hello =)
[21:33] <sent_> welcome.
[21:33] <Chappy> how are you ? =)
[21:34] <sent_> do you have a support question?
[21:34] <Chappy> whats that?
[21:34] <Chappy> no i dont
[21:34] <Guest19761> my pc at the start send me error 0xc0000225 this error means that my hdd crashed ... but not i delete all files at the format ... i am from anonymous live now ... what can i do ? please help !!!!!
[21:36] <smg60231_> Buber: Back lol. Let's see if we can get it to work now :D
[21:37] <Buber> anyone was successful with synchronizing evolution tasks and memos with google  ? after hours of googling I'm asking here ...
[21:37] <smg60231_> Buber: Wth, factory reset didn't occur owo
[21:38] <fully_human> This will go well with my Microsoft Windows rocking chair: http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/eyewear
[21:39] <sianhulo> dudes, I'm trying to format my external disc drive fat 32, it "finishes" tells that it is fat32 but gives me this log http://pastebin.com/UjRXFdMn and is mountable by the system but I cannot copy anything to it, so it doesn't work. is there anyone who might have an idea of what's happening?furthermore, it has this tag"_" and it's impossible to change
[21:39] <bindi> alright escott, figured out the cropping.. now how do i get this all into one big pdf?
[21:41] <escott> bindi, poppler-utils has some kind of join util, but it may be a more recent version than is in apt
[21:42] <sianhulo> uhm, you know, am i the only one who sees some of my words with black background?
[21:42] <Steevca> I have upgraded 11.10 to 12.04 and i can't connect to the internet.It's reporting that the device is not ready.
[21:44] <Steevca> Can anyone help? I am in a hurry.
[21:44] <Steevca> :P
[21:44] <sianhulo> Steevca, I'm almost sure i cannot help you but... are you using a laptop?wireless connection?
[21:45] <Steevca> sianhulo, I am using a pc and it's an DSL modem.
[21:46] <B14CKB0X> need me libmd5-perl someone help me ?
[21:46] <betz> Hey! I received a .fw file, which is the firmware of an usb device i need to install. I googled a bit, but cant seem to find how i can do this. Anyone?
[21:46] <sianhulo> Steevca, custom pc?do you know how is your adapter named?
[21:46] <dj_segfault> Hi.  In Ubuntu 10.04LTS, how can I make sure one service starts before another service?  Specifically, I am pretty sure upstart is starting mythtv-backend.  I need to make a new service that mounts a drive (it's not mounting at boot time) before mythtv-backend starts.
[21:46] <eriberto> hi, a basic doubt. I am testing 12.04. What is the version name?  Is this name keept after oficial release? Thanks.
[21:46] <Steevca> sianhulo, it's an pentium 4 and it's a TP-LINK TF-3200.
[21:46] <Daekdroom> !precise | eriberto
[21:46] <Jackson-2012> I wanted to change operating systems but I'm not sure if I need to do anything with permissions when I backup my home directory so that I won't have any problem restoring it into the new o/s. Can anyone help?
[21:46] <Daekdroom> eriberto, and yes, the name is kept after the oficial release
[21:47] <sianhulo> Steevca, how did you upgrade?update manager?cd?
[21:47] <Steevca> sianhulo, Update manager.
[21:48] <dj_segfault> Alternately, can someone point me to good documentation on upstart?  Every wiki page and document I found just says "it's event driven" and doesn't say any more about exactly what that means and how I can configure it.
[21:48] <eriberto> Daekdroom: is the final name Precise Pangolin? it is?
[21:48] <Daekdroom> eriberto, yes.
[21:48] <Daekdroom> 12.04 LTS, Precise, Pangolin, Precise Pangolin. All the same.
[21:48] <escott> Jackson-2012, some OSes have a different default uid so you might need to chown -R after the change
[21:48] <sianhulo> Steevca, let me see.
[21:48] <Steevca> sianhulo, Sure,no problem.
[21:48] <eriberto> Thanks a lot Daekdroom.
[21:50] <Jackson-2012> escott: Thanks. So I would be able to copy the home directory back to the disk after the new o/s is on here but may then have to do something to be able to access it? Just want to be clear.
[21:51] <escott> Jackson-2012, yes the filesystem only stores the id number not the username. so you might be 1000 on one install and 101 on another
[21:51] <escott> !upstart | dj_segfault
[21:52] <Jackson-2012> I see. I recall reading about something like that but it was a long time ago. Something about a defult mask of somthing.
[21:52] <escott> Jackson-2012, umask is different
[21:52] <sianhulo> Steevca, try downloading this drivers http://www.driversbay.com/download-driver/3235/network-adapters/tp-link/tf-3200/linux/ you extract it go to the linux folder and see the readme file, there are instructions of how to install it
[21:53] <Steevca> sianhulo, i have two network cards,but i am using just one,can the other be the problem?
[21:53] <dj_segfault> thank you escott.  I'll look at that.
[21:54] <Jackson-2012> ok. So what do you think is the best way to find any facts I may need before starting this process? I'm thinking about trying fedora but getting no action on that channel so not sure how to find out details I may need.
[21:54] <sianhulo> Steevca, i wouldn't be so sure, but if i were i would quit one(i suppose they are pci) and try again
[21:54] <pauser> hi, after I took updates, all the videos in youtube with flash-player are invented. how do I fix this, help me please ?!
[21:54] <dj_segfault> Besides my upstart questions above, I have another question: I mounted a filesystem as root, and the mount point has permissions 777, but when I mount the drive, the permissions became 655.  How do I mount as root such that other users can write to the filesystem?
[21:54] <Steevca> sianhulo, yeah,they are pci.
[21:54] <dj_segfault> escott: Funny, google never returned that page for my search query
[21:54] <escott> dj_segfault, multiple users or just one?
[21:55] <Steevca> Ok i am going to try that if i still have a problem i am going to try with the drivers,thanks sianhulo.
[21:55] <brontosaurusrex> pauser: flash or html5?
[21:55] <sianhulo> Steevca, I guess that tplink is a router, am i right?
[21:55] <sianhulo> too late...
[21:55] <dj_segfault> escott: I would like it 777 so any user can write to it, but it's critical that a particular user can (mythtv)
[21:56] <escott> dj_segfault, so it sounds like mythtv should own the folder and other users should either be added to that group or the umask for mythtv should be changed
[21:57] <dj_segfault> escott: When you say the folder, you mean the mount point
[21:57] <dj_segfault> ?
[21:57] <escott> dj_segfault, folder mountpoint same thing. mount it and sudo chown mythtv:mythtv /path/to/mountpoint (assuming mythtv is a valid group name)
[21:58] <escott> dj_segfault, and you can either change the umask for the mythtv user or use setgid to set the permissions on the group. and then add the people you want to the mythtv group
[21:59] <dj_segfault> escott: OK.  Thanks.  BTW, that upstart page does not in fact tell you how to determine the order services are started in, but I gotta go, so I'll ask again later.
[22:00] <Quaydon> So how many of you guys are using the 12.04 beta?
[22:01] <vlt> Hello. How can I find out whether I have a “realtime” kernel running?
[22:02] <Myrtti> Quaydon: many in #ubuntu+1 are
[22:02] <tallboy_2> Quaydon:  I'm downloading .iso now.
[22:02] <Buber> windows junkie look for linux equivalent of ms outlook and hotmail , eg. exchange - anyone give any points ?
[22:03] <whonch> Hi everybody
[22:03] <Blue1> Buber: well I use thunderbird as an email clent.  not sure what you mean by hotmail reference.  I thought hotmail was acesssed by a browser, isn't it?
[22:04] <nibbler_> Buber, there is many options, you can go for a groupware like zimbra, client side would be thunderbird with lightning calendar, i personally perfer owncloud with some standard email services serverside
[22:05] <Quaydon> Myrtti, Thanks didn't know about that channel.
[22:06] <Quaydon> tallboy_2, I upgraded from 11.10, and it seemed to work ok.
[22:07] <whonch> Hi. I have a problem that i've been unable to solve. since I installed a secondary screen to my ubuntu (10.04), the resolution of the terminal and the loading screen changed to 640x480 (which is the same resolution of the secondary screen, i think). Doest anybody know how to solve it?
[22:07] <zacarias> what command shall you run on a terminal to see a list of all installed packages?
[22:07] <zykotick9> zacarias: "dpkg -l" is one option
[22:08] <primenumber> @search the idea factory
[22:09] <vlt> Does 11.10 use a realtime kernel by default?
[22:09] <zacarias> zykotick9: thanks, I'll try that one
[22:10] <demoniccow> Is there anyway to get gnome2 on ubuntu 11.10?
[22:10] <whonch> demoniccow: it's for 12.04, but it may work: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/03/gnome-classic-in-ubuntu-12-04-its-like-nothing-ever-changed/
[22:11] <Blue1> Yes I love that - I may have to move to 12.04
[22:12] <Quaydon> demoniccow, If that does not work, XFCE might be a suitable replacement for you.
[22:17] <Guest31607> Hey, how do I disable the guest account on Ubuntu 11.10?
[22:21] <smg60231_> Well, even after resetting my router to default, it seems like ports still wont open.
[22:21] <smg60231_> Don't know if I should blame the router or something else...
[22:23] <vatueil> hi, is there a way to type umlauts with an US keyboard?
[22:24] <TorbenBeta> vatueil, sure there is.
[22:24] <vatueil> TorbenBeta:  got a link? it'd be nice to be able to do super+a/o/u and get umlauts
[22:25] <smg60231_> Anyone else have any more suggestions? I can't open any ports at all... I have added windows exceptions, disabled the firewall completely, disabled router firewall... even though I forward in router and add rules for windows... I can't open ports.
[22:25] <TorbenBeta> vatueil, well after a quick look, I'm astonished. On the British keyboard it is easy per metakey sed US doesn't use metakeys.
[22:26] <escott> TorbenBeta, vatueil you want the compose key. you probably want to disable capslock and turn that into a compose key
[22:27] <escott> TorbenBeta, vatueil wörks like a charm
[22:27] <vatueil> escott:  i've mapped caps lock into esc. I'm a vim user :)
[22:27] <escott> vatueil, them map your escape to compose
[22:27] <TorbenBeta> escott, on the US keyboard?
[22:27] <vatueil> escott:  shouldn't i be able to hack something up with .Xmodmap ?
[22:27] <timothy> can someone transfer me to #linuxmint-chat
[22:28] <vatueil> timothy:  just type /join #linuxmint-chat
[22:28] <TorbenBeta> vatueil, you could change the keybindings, so that you have a deadkey with the umlaute mapped on it.
[22:28] <escott> vatueil, sure the same way you remapped capslock to escape. although i just use the advanced preferences in gnome keyboard preferences
[22:28] <vatueil> escott:  yeah i also used the advanced preferences for that :)
[22:29] <TorbenBeta> vatueil /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/ is it, if I'm not off.
[22:29] <escott> vatueil, TorbenBeta, keyboard -> layout settings -> options in 11.10 gnome3 (presumably also unity)
[22:29] <vatueil> escott:  i have no idea how that whole input pipeline works in X11/ubuntu/gnome, so i don't even know where to start looking
[22:29] <escott> vatueil, the gnome preferences seem to modify xmodmap but without creating xmodmap file
[22:29] <TorbenBeta> escott, I know about that.
[22:30] <vatueil> escott:  how would they manage to do that?
[22:30] <escott> vatueil, personally i would prefer that it parse and use the xmodmap file but i understand thats hard to parse
[22:30] <escott> vatueil, just running xmodmap commands directly
[22:31] <vatueil> ah
[22:31] <TorbenBeta> The compose key is an option but you could alternatively use: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=188761
[22:32] <vatueil> hm... that man xmodmap is kinda confusing
[22:32] <vatueil> i'd like to just map SUPER_L a to "a with umlaut"
[22:33] <smg60231_> Anyone else have any more suggestions? I can't open any ports at all... I have added windows exceptions, disabled the firewall completely, disabled router firewall... even though I forward in router and add rules for windows... I can't open ports.
[22:33] <TorbenBeta> vatueil, then changing the file is the easiest way to do it.
[22:33] <escott> vatueil, its probably easier to change a key into a compose key than to change it to a particular unicode symbol, but you could try
[22:33] <zacarias> can you run lightning from a terminal?
[22:34] <TorbenBeta> or change the keyboard to Gb and use the metakey.
[22:34] <TorbenBeta> On british meta + [ to ¨
[22:35] <holmser> I attempted to install yaml via apt, but it failed
[22:35] <holmser> now every time I run apt I get a string of errors
[22:35] <holmser> is there a way to abort the yaml install?
[22:36] <cbelflower321> hello
[22:36] <TorbenBeta> holmser, is it still running?
[22:37] <holmser> TorbenBeta: is what still running?
[22:37] <cbelflower321> Anyone mind helping me out with my Ubuntu not booting correctly?
[22:38] <TorbenBeta> "is there a way to abort the yaml install?" is the installation process still running?
[22:38] <escott> !anyone | cbelflower321
[22:38] <holmser> TorbenBeta: no it is not running
[22:39] <holmser> TorbenBeta: if you read my first post, I said it failed
[22:39] <Marcellina> Hello.
[22:39] <cbelflower321> Sorry I don't usually get on here so I don't know the proper etiquette.  Anyway, I have done a fresh install of Ubuntu 11.10 and formatted the drive it was on, however when I go to log in it accepts the password then stays on the purple/pink screen and nothing comes up
[22:39] <holmser> TorbenBeta: here is a pastebin of the error I get every time I run apt now http://pastebin.com/PTqtfEgD
[22:40] <Marcellina> Can someone please explain me this (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wine1.4/+bug/944321)?
[22:40] <escott> cbelflower321, sounds like unity isn't starting. jump over to tty1 ctrl-alt-f1 and install unity-2d and select that from the login
[22:41] <dalton2345> cbel you need unity 2d
[22:41] <Marcellina> I need to build wine myself for a certain patch.
[22:41] <holmser> I'm basically looking to clear the cache or completely undo the old install of yaml
[22:42] <cbelflower321> Sorry I'm new to this whole thing in case you couldn't tell.  What do you mean by jump over to tty1?
[22:42] <Marcellina> ctrl+alt+f1
[22:42] <Marcellina> ?seen scottritchie
[22:42] <Marcellina> !seen scottritchie
[22:43] <cbelflower321> How can I do that if I can't get passed the login screen?
[22:43] <escott> cbelflower321, ctrl-alt-f1
[22:43] <escott> cbelflower321, f7 to get back
[22:44] <holmser> cbelflower321: that command will swap you over to a terminal
[22:44] <Tradie96> Anyone want to help me with a wubi install
[22:44] <Blue1> Tradie96: i have never done one, sorry.  :-(
[22:45] <TorbenBeta> holmser, what was you command excatly? Currently reading man pages.
[22:45] <holmser> the install command?
[22:45] <Tradie96> I've been on irc for days now, asking for help about it haha
[22:45] <TorbenBeta> Y.
[22:45] <holmser> sudo apt-get install yaml-dev I believe
[22:46] <escott> Tradie96, what is your reason for wanting to install wubi over a virtualbox system or a real system
[22:46] <Blue1> Tradie96: if it is like a regular install (and I don't know that it is) it would be easy to help.
[22:46] <holmser> TorbenBeta: I think I found it
[22:46] <Marcellina> I prefer wine.
[22:46] <bastidrazor> if unity is installed then unity2d is too.. at login click the ubuntu logo and select Ubuntu 2D :: escott, whomever else suggested installing unity2d
[22:46] <Tradie96> Well I can't find the hard drives if I try to install via disk or bootable USB
[22:46] <soplaz> can someone help me teeling me why everytime I download and intall any software form the Ubuntu Software Center I get an error and It could not be installed, but then I check and the software was installed and working properly ?
[22:47] <dalton2345> wubi is for an usb drive right
[22:47] <Blue1> i can't get usb to work on virtual box despite have the name in /etc/group and installing the extension pack
[22:47] <escott> dalton2345, no its a loopback install on ntfs
[22:48] <dalton2345> ohh i see
[22:48] <holmser> Tradie96: Whats going on?  Tell me your problems
[22:49] <escott> Tradie96, do you have multiple drives in this computer?
[22:49] <holmser> TorbenBeta: I fixed it.  looks like I accidentally tried to install a yaml plugin for emacs.  Uninstalled, now everything is looking good
[22:50] <TorbenBeta> Congrats holmser, sorry that I could not help/
[22:52] <Marcellina> I need to compile 32bit wine1.5 on a 64bit system, any help with chroot is welcome.
[22:54] <Marcellina> http://winezeug.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/install-wine-deps.sh really looks like spaghetti code to me.
[22:55] <ikonia> Marcellina: then you shouldn't be doing it
[22:55] <rtnb> hi guys, my second monitor is flickering on ubuntu, doesnt happen on windows tho
[22:56] <backbox> hai, hai
[22:56] <the_real_crimper> i'm trying to use "script" to record command history, but the saved file doesn't seem to be recording anything, what am i missing?
[22:56] <backbox> why are french ?
[22:57] <smw> theit works for me.
[22:57] <Marcellina> Scott Ritchie recommends the use of a 32bit chroot.
[22:57] <smw> the_real_crimper, ^
[22:58] <smw> the_real_crimper, script test.txt . Then start typing commands and finally exit to save the file.
[22:59] <the_real_crimper> smw, i tried this, the file records "exit" and when the script finished... none of my commands i typed
[22:59] <kasii> anybody having idea with the restored partition
[23:00] <huron> which image should I download for 64-bit core2duo on mbp 7.1?
[23:00] <ikonia> kasii: idea about what ?
[23:00] <huron> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[23:00] <pikkachu> is there a general ubuntu security channel?
[23:00] <ikonia> huron the amd64
[23:00] <ikonia> pikkachu: in what respect ?
[23:00] <huron> got it thanks ikonia
[23:00] <the_real_crimper> smw: http://paste.ubuntu.com/910794/
[23:01] <Andolf> where should I start reading to know how to install/check compiz on fresh 12 install?
[23:01] <matt___> help!
[23:01] <ikonia> Andolf: ubuntu 12.04 is discussed in #ubuntu+1 channel until it's released.
[23:01] <ikonia> matt___: come on, how can we help you with just the word "help!"
[23:02] <Andolf> thx
[23:03] <matt___> i installed ubuntu onto a usb and ran it over my windows 7. the installation took a few hours but finnaly it said installation complete reboot. i reboot and its just a purple screen. finnaly i click boot ubuntu and this command prompt comes up that says type help for list of commands
[23:03] <huron_> I see two types of AMD64, which one should I download pC or mac?
[23:04] <ikonia> matt___: is this a wubi install
[23:04] <ikonia> huron: are you using a mac ?
[23:04] <huron_> ya mbp 7.1 with core 2duo
[23:04] <ikonia> huron: then use the mac image
[23:05] <matt___> i personally dont know i gt it from the ubuntu website
[23:05] <ikonia> matt___: did you partition your hard disk, or install it to a file on the windows disk ?
[23:06] <matt___> no i just followed the steps on the website, got it on my usb and ran it over windows. i did everythin the website said so if there is something i should of done not on the website steps than i did not do it
[23:07] <ikonia> matt___: "ran it over windows" ?
[23:07] <matt___> like instead of having them side by side i erased windows and ran ubuntu
[23:07] <ikonia> matt___: so you deleted Windows and you only have ubuntu on your system ?
[23:08] <matt___> yes but when i start up my computer it takes me to this command prompt that says type help for commands and i cant get out of it
[23:08] <ikonia> matt___: it sounds to me like grub did not get installed, I would suggest re-doing the install at this time
[23:08] <ikonia> matt___: pay attention for any warnings or errors that come up on screen
[23:09] <matt___> it took the longest when it said reinstalling grub
[23:09] <dalton2345> why not use a cd matt___
[23:09] <matt___> i had a usb and it said i cn use it that way
[23:09] <ikonia> matt___: that seems plausable as you appear to have a grub error
[23:09] <linux_is_my_hero> how do i change my default keyring password in 11.10 x64?
[23:09] <pikkachu> ikonia: so there is more than one?
[23:09] <ikonia> matt___: nothing wrong with using a usb, however I suspect the usb disk is what may have caused grub to go wrong
[23:10] <ikonia> pikkachu: what is your question ?
[23:10] <dalton2345> you can matt___  but its not as easy as a cd
[23:10] <matt___> ok ill try a CD thanks!
[23:11] <worrow> anyone else have sound issues with Ubuntu 12.04 beta 2 in virtual machine?
[23:11] <worrow> I have no audio
[23:11] <ikonia> try the #ubuntu+1 channel
[23:12] <worrow> ikonia, thanks
[23:13] <worrow> ikonia,  if nobody there anywhere else to try?
[23:13] <ikonia> worrow: no
[23:13] <worrow> ikonia, have you used 12.04 and had same issue?
[23:14] <ikonia> #ubuntu+1 is the discussion channel for 12.04
[23:15] <dalton2345> i'm still on 11.04 :p
[23:15] <worrow> 12.04 is awesome
[23:15] <worrow> just take some getting use to
[23:16] <worrow> i'm only virtualizing until small bugs are worked out, there aren't many
[23:16] <ikonia> worrow: 12.04 discussion is in #ubuntu+1, please.
[23:16] <Marcellina> Yeah, it seems faster.
[23:17] <Andolf> command or program to update coreutils package?
[23:18] <ikonia> Andolf: if there is an update available, update-manager will offer it
[23:18] <soplaz> can someone help me teeling me why everytime I download and intall any software form the Ubuntu Software Center I get an error and It could not be installed, but then I check and the software was installed and working properly ?
[23:19] <pikkachu> ikonia: what part of my question you didn't understand?
[23:20] <ikonia> pikkachu: what do you want to know ?
[23:20] <Pseudoephedrine> Hi, im just wondering why i cant find a dns-nameserver in/etc/network/interfaces. Am i missing anything or have i forgot to set something up? I am trying to setup a VPS to use with my iPhone if that helps?
[23:20] <ikonia> pikkachu: what security aspect are you having questions/want discussion on
[23:20] <pikkachu> ikonia: do you use gpg and that gui tool from oneiric? do you know it very good?
[23:20] <ikonia> Pseudoephedrine it doesn't live in that file
[23:20] <ikonia> pikkachu "that gui tool" ? do you mean key-chain-manager ?
[23:21] <Pseudoephedrine> ikonia: Oh ok, so where would i find it?
[23:21] <ikonia> Pseudoephedrine: /etc/resolv.conf
[23:22] <Pseudoephedrine> ikonia: i see, i have added the dns-nameserver to the /etc/network/interfaces but each time i reboot, the dns-nameserver is gone
[23:22] <ikonia> Pseudoephedrine: because it doesn't live in that file
[23:22] <Andolf> utility to make sure compiz and packages are up to date?
[23:22] <ikonia> Pseudoephedrine: I suspect you may also be using a vps ?
[23:22] <ikonia> Andolf: if there is an update available, update manager will offer you one
[23:23] <ikonia> Andolf: and for the LAST time 12.04 discussion in #ubuntu+1
[23:23] <Pseudoephedrine> ikonia: but if i am setting up a VPN, i need to add it to eth0, and then also to eth0:0 (VPN)
[23:23] <ikonia> Pseudoephedrine: no, it doesn't go on the physical interface
[23:23] <Andolf> ikonia: there was no answer there and it is not 12.04 specific.
[23:23] <ikonia> Andolf: it is 12.04 specific
[23:24] <Andolf> running update manager?
[23:24] <Andolf> tok
[23:24] <ikonia> Andolf: no, if updates are available and the staus of packages
[23:24] <Pseudoephedrine> ikonia: ok, so what am i missing? lol i am following a setup tutorial that i am able to show you if youd like?
[23:24] <Andolf> ikonia: freak
[23:24] <ikonia> Pseudoephedrine: no idea what you are doing
[23:24] <ikonia> Andolf: please don't call people names, there is no need for it
[23:24] <Andolf> ikonia: get lost
[23:25] <Pseudoephedrine> ikonia: trying to setup a VPN so i can connect to it from my iPhone
[23:25] <ikonia> Pseudoephedrine: ok
[23:25] <pikkachu> ikonia: I think so
[23:26] <ikonia> pikkachu: I've used it in the past with good results.
[23:26] <Pseudoephedrine> ikonia: in the setup tut i am reading, it is saying i need to at the dns-nameservers i find in eth0 and add it to eth0:0
[23:26] <ikonia> Pseudoephedrine: no idea, never needed to do that and it seems a bad idea
[23:27] <TorbenBeta> ikonia, sorry to disrupt you, but I do not understand a thing.
[23:27] <Pseudoephedrine> Has anyone in here had any experience setting up a VPN? I need some help..
[23:27] <pikkachu> ikonia: gpg docs suck, and web docs are contradictory on this: I just want to know if gpg -a --export-secret-keys (or the export button from the gui) exports it encrypted with the password or not
[23:27] <ikonia> TorbenBeta: it's not distrubing me, people are here to help if they can, what's up ?
[23:27] <ikonia> !vpn | pikkachu
[23:27] <ikonia> oops
[23:27] <ikonia> Pseudoephedrine: that link is for you
[23:28] <ikonia> pikkachu:  I belive it's encypted on export yes
[23:28] <TorbenBeta> I read up on Andolf and the question seemed to me legitimate, therefore I wonder why you have kicked him;.
[23:28] <ikonia> TorbenBeta: because he was rude and offensive
[23:29] <TorbenBeta> And doesn't updatemanagment belong to this channel, e.g. I have the question how I can update/upgrade a package in my system.
[23:30] <xangua> TorbenBeta: he was talking about 12.04
[23:31] <TorbenBeta> xangua, well I haven't occupied myself with it, but could you elaborate the connection?
[23:34] <Pseudoephedrine> Ok, so im am editing this line in /etc/ppp/pptpd-options 'ms-dns 10.0.0.1'.. it says change the digits to the DNS i want to connect to, should that be the DNS of my machine? or can it be any random string that i want?
[23:34] <ikonia> Pseudoephedrine: it's the dns server you want to use
[23:34] <ikonia> it can't be random digits, it needs to be a valid dns server that you can access, while using the vpn's network range
[23:35] <sinfuzi0n> I havn't used Ubuntu, or Linux for that matter, in awhile. Is there any easy way to install flash now, or do you have to go through hell and back to get it to install still?
[23:35] <Pseudoephedrine> ikonia: I have a VPS, does that mean i have a personal DNS server, or do i need to find out what it is? If so, where do i find it?
[23:35] <sinfuzi0n> Easy being can I just apt-get install flashblahblah, or am I going to have to compile a bunch of stuff
[23:35] <xangua> sinfuzi0n: open software center, search it and install it
[23:36] <sinfuzi0n> Aye aye, capn
[23:36] <xangua> sudo apt-get install flashplguin-installer sinfuzi0n
[23:36] <xangua> flashplugin-installer *
[23:37] <sinfuzi0n> Bah, going to have to do it from my house
[23:37] <sinfuzi0n> Starbucks Wifi = teh_lamz0rz
[23:38] <Roey> I'm using OpenVPN to pipe traffic from my laptop in Starbucks through my server at my apartment.  The VPN connection only works when I disable the fw on the server, so yeah, it's definitely something in the firewall.  Can you look it over for me please?  Here are the rules in iptables-restore format:   http://pastebin.com/LngiW03F ; and here are some extra rules I execute after loading with iptables-restore:  http://pastebi
[23:38] <Roey> n.com/PtmFGtdS
[23:38] <choice> is there any apps i can download that i can download music from?
[23:39] <XuMuK> choice: aMule for example
[23:40] <Pseudoephedrine> Roey: Im actually in the middle of trying to set up a VPN, is there any chance you would be able to help me out?
[23:40] <Roey> with #openvpn?
[23:40] <almoxarife> choice: mytube is a good one
[23:41] <Pseudoephedrine> Roey, Well with VPN in general, im trying to setup a VPN so i can access my server from an iPhone
[23:42] <choice> <almoxarife: mytube is for musics, where i can download
[23:42] <Roey> Pseudoephedrine:  ah
[23:42] <Roey> which app are yuou using from your phone?
[23:42] <Roey> client app I mean
[23:43] <warfaren> what command do i run to mount hdd's like ubuntu does when you click on them in Places?
[23:43] <Pseudoephedrine> Well because the new iPhone allows VPN connection through the settings, i am trying to use that
[23:43] <warfaren> i'm not looking for the mount command, i'm trying to get the popup box thats askin for my password
[23:43] <almoxarife> choice: mytube is for youtube, mytube will download from youtube, youtube has music
[23:43] <pibarnas> warfaren: gksu?
[23:44] <warfaren> i thought it would be something with gksu, yes
[23:44] <warfaren> however i don't know what more after that
[23:44] <Pseudoephedrine> Roey: At the moment i am editing /etc/ppp/pptpd-options, the lines im editing at ms-dns, though im not sure how to edit these lines
[23:44] <Roey> oh that I have no idea about; try #openvpn?
[23:44] <warfaren> i managed to grep out what it does by looping a ps grep while mounting it
[23:44] <warfaren> so i have the command line for the mount command
[23:45] <warfaren> but when i try to run it i only get "only root can do that"
[23:45] <Pseudoephedrine> thanks mate
[23:45] <warfaren> so i guess i need to do something with gksu, however i'm not familiar with gksu
[23:45] <choice> how do you play atomic tanks
[23:46] <timothy> Hello
[23:46] <timothy> ubuntu 12.04 beta 1 cant connect to my wireless network for some reason
[23:46] <pibarnas> warfaren: I think you must handle /etc/sudoers to make your device mountable by the user. then something like gksudo mount symlink will work.
[23:47] <warfaren> actually i prefer to use this account as super-limited
[23:47] <warfaren> not being a sudoer
[23:47] <timothy> can i have some help
[23:47] <xangua> timothy: #ubuntu+1 for 12.04
[23:47] <pibarnas> warfaren: so bye gksudo. :)
[23:48] <warfaren> i'll look into the gksu manpage though and see if i can find something
[23:48] <warfaren> but it looks like you're putting me on the right path :) cheers
[23:48] <smg60231> hi
[23:50] <pibarnas> warfaren: in /etc/sudoers you can make user or groups execute (or not) only specfic commands. see man sudoers.
[23:50] <smg60231> I am having a bit of an issue. Port scanners are saying that all ports on my network are closed, even though I have them forwarded and everything. Any suggestions?
[23:50] <warfaren> that sounds nice
[23:52] <sidney> will someone take a look please http://paste.ubuntu.com/910844/
[23:54] <xangua> sidney: would you provide an introduction to the problem¿
[23:55] <sidney> I added a drive with 2 partitions one will not mount and had a mount point of /dev/cdrom0
[23:56] <sidney> sdc1 would not mount\
[23:56] <smg60231> I am having a bit of an issue. Port scanners are saying that all ports on my network are closed, even though I have them forwarded and everything. Any suggestions?
[23:57] <friskd> Hey guys: I see this: http://pastie.org/3711763   how do i know which "drive" i'm on so i can start clearing up the 53 gigs
[23:57] <friskd> *52 gigs
[23:57] <phillijw> anyone know why compiz is being such a resource hog?
[23:58] <friskd> My drive is full, i'm on amazon ec2
[23:58] <friskd> and somehow its using 52 gigs of space
[23:59] <mobile> low