| pleia2 | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Documentation needs some love, I don't really know how our docs work but it links to http://doc.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/ which is more than a little out of date | 00:01 |
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| knome | mmh | 00:01 |
| knome | i rewrote: | 00:01 |
| knome | http://xubuntu.org/contribute/ | 00:01 |
| knome | http://xubuntu.org/contribute/qa/ | 00:01 |
| knome | and | 00:01 |
| knome | http://xubuntu.org/contribute/marketing/ | 00:02 |
| knome | the other subpages are going to need love too | 00:02 |
| pleia2 | ah, hadn't seen updated qa/ yet, I shall look | 00:02 |
| knome | those are pretty much "merges" of the website stuff + stuff on the wiki | 00:02 |
| knome | to be able to drop unnecessary duplicated info on the wiki | 00:02 |
| knome | eg. the Bugs subpage is probably unnecessary now | 00:03 |
| pleia2 | based on feedback I got from charlie, /Testing on the wiki is more clear and should be accurate now | 00:03 |
| knome | aha | 00:03 |
| knome | since when? | 00:03 |
| pleia2 | I made edits when I wrote the blog post | 00:03 |
| knome | mm-hmm | 00:04 |
| knome | that's not too bad | 00:04 |
| pleia2 | we probably want to revisit it at the beginning of the next cycle though, once we trick someone into becoming the new testing lead :) | 00:04 |
| knome | and some of that should definitely stay there | 00:04 |
| knome | including the testers page and the testcases | 00:04 |
| knome | but the "how to start testing" stuff should mostly be in x.org, i think... | 00:04 |
| knome | as the same stuff for other teams | 00:04 |
| pleia2 | yeah | 00:05 |
| knome | that way we have one place where we can point all new contributors | 00:05 |
| knome | and the wiki is for those who want to get started already | 00:05 |
| knome | probably "how to contribute" could be removed once we make sure all of it is in x.org | 00:05 |
| * pleia2 nods | 00:06 | |
| knome | "projects" too, just link to the release schedule somewhere in the page :) | 00:06 |
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| pleia2 | knome: when we consider a replacement application, I'm assuming we just do a casual discussion on -devel rather than the more formal /ApplicationComparisonTemplate? | 00:10 |
| knome | well, it's good to have something formal to point to | 00:11 |
| knome | also, i think wiki is a good tool to compare applications and gather opinions | 00:11 |
| pleia2 | that one's the first one listed on Old | 00:11 |
| knome | i know | 00:12 |
| knome | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Toolbox/SpecificationTemplate | 00:12 |
| knome | that's a bit less formal and scary template | 00:12 |
| pleia2 | ah, good :) | 00:13 |
| knome | i tried to condense the stuff found on the other templates to that | 00:13 |
| knome | everybody can use common sense in deciding what should be covered | 00:13 |
| knome | btw, if you are okay with deleting the pages under XubuntuOld, feel free to do it right away :) | 00:13 |
| pleia2 | seems to me the BugWatch stuff is much better being tracked on LP with bug importance and stuff (but I don't know the history there) | 00:14 |
| knome | yes, i agree with that | 00:14 |
| knome | that's why i wondered that we still did that for precise | 00:14 |
| knome | tbh, i didn't even know that page existed, so that's it for the watching part :) | 00:15 |
| * knome is still lurking | 00:23 | |
| knome | https://twitter.com/#!/rreyes1979/status/186246528514539520 | 00:23 |
| pleia2 | I wonder if we should keep just one of these around https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/XubuntuOld/DocumentationHardyAssignments | 00:35 |
| pleia2 | but again, I don't know about docs or how useful such a thing is | 00:35 |
| knome | well, i'm trying to get our whole documentation rewritten in Q | 00:35 |
| pleia2 | I think we can delete everything else though | 00:36 |
| knome | well | 00:36 |
| knome | hmm | 00:36 |
| knome | the latest is from intrepid | 00:36 |
| knome | and that's just a really quick listing | 00:36 |
| pleia2 | yeah, hardy is the one with stuff in it | 00:37 |
| knome | hardy... that doesn't look too extensive too | 00:37 |
| knome | *either | 00:37 |
| pleia2 | whatever you think, I just think it may be useful for when we revive docs | 00:37 |
| pleia2 | one of them anyway | 00:37 |
| knome | but those are all just sections in the offline docs? | 00:37 |
| knome | file:///usr/share/xubuntu-docs/index.html | 00:38 |
| pleia2 | I think so, but the page has a framework for easy viewing of who is doing what | 00:39 |
| pleia2 | which I think may have value | 00:39 |
| knome | if we want to assign things, that's fine | 00:39 |
| knome | i was thinking of a more collaborative approach with etherpad | 00:39 |
| knome | -> paste the doc section to a pad | 00:39 |
| knome | -> let people edit | 00:39 |
| knome | with some sprints, that should work pretty well | 00:39 |
| pleia2 | ok :) | 00:39 |
| knome | and if we really need a table, we can just recreate | 00:40 |
| * pleia2 nods | 00:40 | |
| knome | that's what i was thinking | 00:40 |
| pleia2 | ok, delete 'em all! | 00:40 |
| knome | yay! | 00:40 |
| knome | wiki lags :D | 00:41 |
| knome | ok, done :) | 00:42 |
| knome | now we must only rewrite the pages | 00:42 |
| knome | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Cleanup | 00:43 |
| knome | pleia2, do you have an insight on the testers-page table? | 00:44 |
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| pleia2 | knome: not at the moment, I'll think | 00:55 |
| knome | thanks :) | 00:55 |
| knome | pleia2, btw, you might want to subscribe to Xubuntu/* at least temporarily as i go and change things here and there :) | 00:58 |
| knome | pleia2, https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-doc | 01:01 |
| knome | pleia2, WOW! | 01:01 |
| knome | pleia2, we have that too? | 01:01 |
| knome | :) | 01:01 |
| knome | gah, the wiki is really slow | 01:03 |
| knome | pleia2, you there? quick question... | 01:04 |
| knome | pleia2, do we want to keep the meeting agenda archive? | 01:05 |
| knome | pleia2, i mean, they have *some* documentative value, but on the other hand, you will know what the agenda was when you look at the meeting minutes... | 01:06 |
| knome | pleia2, there is one agenda in 2010, two in 2009, and three in 2008, rest are older | 01:07 |
| pleia2 | yeah, keep the archive | 01:07 |
| knome | really? | 01:07 |
| pleia2 | yes, everyone does | 01:07 |
| knome | i'm not deleting the *minutes* archive | 01:07 |
| knome | i'm talking about *agenda* archive | 01:07 |
| knome | which we haven't updated in over a year | 01:07 |
| * pleia2 shrugs | 01:07 | |
| pleia2 | I guess that's ok then :) | 01:08 |
| knome | ok, good | 01:08 |
| knome | the wiki is lagging again :( | 01:10 |
| pleia2 | it does that | 01:10 |
| knome | okay, agenda archive deleted | 01:10 |
| knome | now i could fix the archive frontpage and go to sleep :) | 01:10 |
| pleia2 | :) | 01:11 |
| knome | everything under Xubuntu/Archive/Minutes/ could now be moved directly under Xubuntu/Archive/ :) | 01:22 |
| knome | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings/Archive is updated | 01:25 |
| knome | and i'm off to bed | 01:25 |
| pleia2 | good night! | 01:25 |
| knome | see you later! :) | 01:25 |
| knome | good day+night to you too :) | 01:25 |
| Unit193 | Adios. | 01:26 |
| pleia2 | the wiki fails at subscribing me to more than a single page at once | 01:43 |
| Unit193 | I think the first three words said it all. | 01:44 |
| pleia2 | :P | 01:45 |
| knome | pleia2, hmm? | 07:17 |
| knome | pleia2, "Xubuntu/.*" | 07:17 |
| knome | pleia2, without quotes, add that to your subscription box | 07:17 |
| pleia2 | knome: I know how to add it :) I'm saying it doesn't work | 07:18 |
| knome | :o | 07:18 |
| knome | i didn't know the . -trick | 07:19 |
| knome | until recently | 07:19 |
| knome | weird then | 07:19 |
| pleia2 | I've known this for a while, tried subbing to UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/.* a few months ago | 07:19 |
| knome | :/ | 07:19 |
| pleia2 | ok, sleepies time | 07:26 |
| knome | nighty | 07:28 |
| knome | starting to wrap up the "rebase" thing | 10:49 |
| knome | https://twitter.com/#!/XubuntuLinux/status/186404591208898561 | 10:50 |
| astraljava | Soo... how do I make the window borders easier to grab? They're way, way too thin at the moment. | 13:58 |
| Pjotr | Hello, I have a question about the Abiword package for Xubuntu Precise. | 14:01 |
| Pjotr | Upstream, some overdue translations have been commmitted for Abiword 2.9.x: http://www.abisource.com/contribute/translate/ | 14:01 |
| Pjotr | Will they make it into Xubuntu Precise? | 14:01 |
| astraljava | I guess an FFe bug could be filed against it, it could be possible, but I'm not an expert WRT translations. | 14:04 |
| astraljava | Pjotr: Give me 2 hours, I'm in the middle of a hockey game. :) | 14:05 |
| Pjotr | astraljava: OK, thanks in advance.... good luck with the hockey! :-) | 14:06 |
| astraljava | Pjotr: No worries, would be good to get it in for an LTS. Thanks, neither of them are 'my teams', but then... it's hockey, after all. :) | 14:07 |
| knome | afaik the translations deadline didn't pass yet | 14:58 |
| astraljava | knome: Oh, cool. So just a debdiff for mr_pouit or micahg would suffice, no? | 15:01 |
| knome | i suppose, but ask -release first ;) | 15:06 |
| astraljava | Well, it's no biggie. I will have to create the debdiff anyhoo, so filing an FFe bug is just one more step. | 15:27 |
| pleia2 | quite the extensive april foolery on G+ (I didn't post it, but I let my co-maintainer in on the joke and he wrote a whole intro for knome's post | 15:31 |
| pleia2 | knome: btw, you can click on the timestamps in the logs to get more precise links | 15:32 |
| pleia2 | http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/03/31/%23xubuntu-devel.html#t20:37 | 15:32 |
| pleia2 | oh my, the DPL retweeted | 15:34 |
| astraljava | ochosi: knome: No idea about the window border thingie? My google-fu seems to suggest it's theme-related, but I have virtually no knowledge about them. | 15:37 |
| knome | pleia2, didn't know that :) | 17:09 |
| knome | aaaanyway, https://twitter.com/#!/XubuntuLinux/status/186501460773707776 | 17:13 |
| knome | (opme | 17:22 |
| knome | er | 17:22 |
| === knome changed the topic of #xubuntu-devel to: Xubuntu Development | Support at #xubuntu | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule | Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu | Bugs List: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Bugs/PrecisePangolin | Daily Testing results: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/204/builds | ||
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| knome | astraljava, hmm, what issue? | 18:08 |
| BufferOverflow | Corners to resize too small. | 18:09 |
| BufferOverflow | IIRC. | 18:09 |
| knome | alt+right-mouse-drag. | 18:09 |
| astraljava | Ahh... cool, didn't know that. | 18:09 |
| astraljava | Thanks! | 18:09 |
| knome | np | 18:09 |
| knome | astraljava, maybe you SHOULD be following @XubuntuLinux, that tip was posted there | 18:10 |
| astraljava | But that's _SOCIAL_, I don't do that. | 18:10 |
| knome | i don't do that personally either. i lurk behind the @XubuntuLinux-account. | 18:10 |
| astraljava | Whee. ssh transfer between a Studio precise box and a Xubuntu precise box was interrupted due to a corrupt packet. *facepalm* | 20:34 |
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