[00:01] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Documentation needs some love, I don't really know how our docs work but it links to http://doc.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/ which is more than a little out of date [00:01] mmh [00:01] i rewrote: [00:01] http://xubuntu.org/contribute/ [00:01] http://xubuntu.org/contribute/qa/ [00:01] and [00:02] http://xubuntu.org/contribute/marketing/ [00:02] the other subpages are going to need love too [00:02] ah, hadn't seen updated qa/ yet, I shall look [00:02] those are pretty much "merges" of the website stuff + stuff on the wiki [00:02] to be able to drop unnecessary duplicated info on the wiki [00:03] eg. the Bugs subpage is probably unnecessary now [00:03] based on feedback I got from charlie, /Testing on the wiki is more clear and should be accurate now [00:03] aha [00:03] since when? [00:03] I made edits when I wrote the blog post [00:04] mm-hmm [00:04] that's not too bad [00:04] we probably want to revisit it at the beginning of the next cycle though, once we trick someone into becoming the new testing lead :) [00:04] and some of that should definitely stay there [00:04] including the testers page and the testcases [00:04] but the "how to start testing" stuff should mostly be in x.org, i think... [00:04] as the same stuff for other teams [00:05] yeah [00:05] that way we have one place where we can point all new contributors [00:05] and the wiki is for those who want to get started already [00:05] probably "how to contribute" could be removed once we make sure all of it is in x.org [00:06] * pleia2 nods [00:06] "projects" too, just link to the release schedule somewhere in the page :) === knome changed the topic of #xubuntu-devel to: Xubuntu Development | It's 1st of April | Support at #xubuntu | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule | Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu | Bugs List: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Bugs/PrecisePangolin | Daily Testing results: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/204/builds [00:10] knome: when we consider a replacement application, I'm assuming we just do a casual discussion on -devel rather than the more formal /ApplicationComparisonTemplate? [00:11] well, it's good to have something formal to point to [00:11] also, i think wiki is a good tool to compare applications and gather opinions [00:11] that one's the first one listed on Old [00:12] i know [00:12] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Toolbox/SpecificationTemplate [00:12] that's a bit less formal and scary template [00:13] ah, good :) [00:13] i tried to condense the stuff found on the other templates to that [00:13] everybody can use common sense in deciding what should be covered [00:13] btw, if you are okay with deleting the pages under XubuntuOld, feel free to do it right away :) [00:14] seems to me the BugWatch stuff is much better being tracked on LP with bug importance and stuff (but I don't know the history there) [00:14] yes, i agree with that [00:14] that's why i wondered that we still did that for precise [00:15] tbh, i didn't even know that page existed, so that's it for the watching part :) [00:23] * knome is still lurking [00:23] https://twitter.com/#!/rreyes1979/status/186246528514539520 [00:35] I wonder if we should keep just one of these around https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/XubuntuOld/DocumentationHardyAssignments [00:35] but again, I don't know about docs or how useful such a thing is [00:35] well, i'm trying to get our whole documentation rewritten in Q [00:36] I think we can delete everything else though [00:36] well [00:36] hmm [00:36] the latest is from intrepid [00:36] and that's just a really quick listing [00:37] yeah, hardy is the one with stuff in it [00:37] hardy... that doesn't look too extensive too [00:37] *either [00:37] whatever you think, I just think it may be useful for when we revive docs [00:37] one of them anyway [00:37] but those are all just sections in the offline docs? [00:38] file:///usr/share/xubuntu-docs/index.html [00:39] I think so, but the page has a framework for easy viewing of who is doing what [00:39] which I think may have value [00:39] if we want to assign things, that's fine [00:39] i was thinking of a more collaborative approach with etherpad [00:39] -> paste the doc section to a pad [00:39] -> let people edit [00:39] with some sprints, that should work pretty well [00:39] ok :) [00:40] and if we really need a table, we can just recreate [00:40] * pleia2 nods [00:40] that's what i was thinking [00:40] ok, delete 'em all! [00:40] yay! [00:41] wiki lags :D [00:42] ok, done :) [00:42] now we must only rewrite the pages [00:43] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Cleanup [00:44] pleia2, do you have an insight on the testers-page table? === gridcube_ is now known as GridCube [00:55] knome: not at the moment, I'll think [00:55] thanks :) [00:58] pleia2, btw, you might want to subscribe to Xubuntu/* at least temporarily as i go and change things here and there :) [01:01] pleia2, https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-doc [01:01] pleia2, WOW! [01:01] pleia2, we have that too? [01:01] :) [01:03] gah, the wiki is really slow [01:04] pleia2, you there? quick question... [01:05] pleia2, do we want to keep the meeting agenda archive? [01:06] pleia2, i mean, they have *some* documentative value, but on the other hand, you will know what the agenda was when you look at the meeting minutes... [01:07] pleia2, there is one agenda in 2010, two in 2009, and three in 2008, rest are older [01:07] yeah, keep the archive [01:07] really? [01:07] yes, everyone does [01:07] i'm not deleting the *minutes* archive [01:07] i'm talking about *agenda* archive [01:07] which we haven't updated in over a year [01:07] * pleia2 shrugs [01:08] I guess that's ok then :) [01:08] ok, good [01:10] the wiki is lagging again :( [01:10] it does that [01:10] okay, agenda archive deleted [01:10] now i could fix the archive frontpage and go to sleep :) [01:11] :) [01:22] everything under Xubuntu/Archive/Minutes/ could now be moved directly under Xubuntu/Archive/ :) [01:25] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings/Archive is updated [01:25] and i'm off to bed [01:25] good night! [01:25] see you later! :) [01:25] good day+night to you too :) [01:26] Adios. [01:43] the wiki fails at subscribing me to more than a single page at once [01:44] I think the first three words said it all. [01:45] :P [07:17] pleia2, hmm? [07:17] pleia2, "Xubuntu/.*" [07:17] pleia2, without quotes, add that to your subscription box [07:18] knome: I know how to add it :) I'm saying it doesn't work [07:18] :o [07:19] i didn't know the . -trick [07:19] until recently [07:19] weird then [07:19] I've known this for a while, tried subbing to UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/.* a few months ago [07:19] :/ [07:26] ok, sleepies time [07:28] nighty [10:49] starting to wrap up the "rebase" thing [10:50] https://twitter.com/#!/XubuntuLinux/status/186404591208898561 [13:58] Soo... how do I make the window borders easier to grab? They're way, way too thin at the moment. [14:01] Hello, I have a question about the Abiword package for Xubuntu Precise. [14:01] Upstream, some overdue translations have been commmitted for Abiword 2.9.x: http://www.abisource.com/contribute/translate/ [14:01] Will they make it into Xubuntu Precise? [14:04] I guess an FFe bug could be filed against it, it could be possible, but I'm not an expert WRT translations. [14:05] Pjotr: Give me 2 hours, I'm in the middle of a hockey game. :) [14:06] astraljava: OK, thanks in advance.... good luck with the hockey! :-) [14:07] Pjotr: No worries, would be good to get it in for an LTS. Thanks, neither of them are 'my teams', but then... it's hockey, after all. :) [14:58] afaik the translations deadline didn't pass yet [15:01] knome: Oh, cool. So just a debdiff for mr_pouit or micahg would suffice, no? [15:06] i suppose, but ask -release first ;) [15:27] Well, it's no biggie. I will have to create the debdiff anyhoo, so filing an FFe bug is just one more step. [15:31] quite the extensive april foolery on G+ (I didn't post it, but I let my co-maintainer in on the joke and he wrote a whole intro for knome's post [15:32] knome: btw, you can click on the timestamps in the logs to get more precise links [15:32] http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/03/31/%23xubuntu-devel.html#t20:37 [15:34] oh my, the DPL retweeted [15:37] ochosi: knome: No idea about the window border thingie? My google-fu seems to suggest it's theme-related, but I have virtually no knowledge about them. [17:09] pleia2, didn't know that :) [17:13] aaaanyway, https://twitter.com/#!/XubuntuLinux/status/186501460773707776 [17:22] (opme [17:22] er === knome changed the topic of #xubuntu-devel to: Xubuntu Development | Support at #xubuntu | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule | Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu | Bugs List: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Bugs/PrecisePangolin | Daily Testing results: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/204/builds === Unit193 is now known as BufferOverflow === yofel_ is now known as yofel [18:08] astraljava, hmm, what issue? [18:09] Corners to resize too small. [18:09] IIRC. [18:09] alt+right-mouse-drag. [18:09] Ahh... cool, didn't know that. [18:09] Thanks! [18:09] np [18:10] astraljava, maybe you SHOULD be following @XubuntuLinux, that tip was posted there [18:10] But that's _SOCIAL_, I don't do that. [18:10] i don't do that personally either. i lurk behind the @XubuntuLinux-account. [20:34] Whee. ssh transfer between a Studio precise box and a Xubuntu precise box was interrupted due to a corrupt packet. *facepalm*