| yhelphelp | what does nomodeset do? | 00:07 |
|---|---|---|
| babble | it will boot it using a generic graphics driver (i.e. a 1024x768 vesa session, stretched across the display) | 00:08 |
| babble | or, in your case, attempt to boot. | 00:09 |
| yhelphelp | have nothing to lose here... | 00:09 |
| yhelphelp | i tried and old 10.10 livecd that I have and it loaded, but only a desktop, no cions and only the exit menu to turn the thing off | 00:11 |
| yhelphelp | cions icons* | 00:11 |
| babble | it's been a while since I looked at a 10.10 livecd. | 00:12 |
| babble | what's in the menu when that loads to the desktop? | 00:12 |
| babble | that should have had not a whole lot on the desktop. just the mounted cd and an installer icon, if I recall correctly | 00:13 |
| babble | in any case, if it successfully boots a 10.10 CD (I suppose that's a debatable question at this point until you try and load something off that running CD) that should at least narrow it down to a bad burn on that new 11.10 disk | 00:14 |
| yhelphelp | a guangdong, i miss their food | 00:22 |
| yhelphelp | im in xubuntu from recovery console again with a usb stick that doesnt automount it seems... help please, I can copy its content to crappy linux and use as boot usb... | 00:23 |
| babble | what size is the USB drive? | 00:24 |
| yhelphelp | babble: 8GB when totally empty (well 7.4) | 00:25 |
| babble | can you get to a desktop on SOMEthing (Windows or Linux) in order to run Unetbootin? | 00:25 |
| babble | (or Linux Startup Disk Creator on Linux, if you have a working, sort of, Linux) | 00:25 |
| yhelphelp | I have used unetbooting once, I can download it here in windows | 00:26 |
| babble | how did you attempt to make the USB stick bootable currently? | 00:26 |
| babble | Unetbootin for Windows is here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/unetbootin/files/UNetbootin/568/unetbootin-windows-568.exe/download | 00:27 |
| yhelphelp | i dont understand the "currently" in the sentence | 00:27 |
| yhelphelp | if you mean, why now? cause I got out of options | 00:27 |
| babble | what did you do to the USB stick you're trying to use to put a bootable system on it? if you just copied the ISO to it, it won't work | 00:27 |
| babble | if you did something that *should* be bootable, but your system still doesn't boot, that would be useful to know, to try and sort out what, exactly, is going on | 00:28 |
| yhelphelp | no babble , I chose unetbooting, an iso copy and make something (dont recall) but what does that have to do with where to find it? | 00:28 |
| yhelphelp | but it wasnt just the iso copied to the usb | 00:29 |
| babble | You've done so very many many things at this point that I'm trying to sort out just what, exactly, you're doing. | 00:29 |
| yhelphelp | i understand | 00:29 |
| yhelphelp | make a bootable usb from the .iso with unetbootin | 00:29 |
| babble | are you attempting to mount that drive while you're booted into the broken system that you can't successfully start x on, or get to a console on, or on which you've been having many and various problems? | 00:30 |
| babble | or are you attempting to mount that drive on a different machine? | 00:31 |
| yhelphelp | im sorry for being this confusing: here in the windows machine | 00:31 |
| yhelphelp | ill just reformat the usb (I dont exactly remember whats in) | 00:31 |
| babble | unetbootin won't remount the thumb drive automatically for you. | 00:32 |
| babble | if you've successully written the image to it, pull the drive and physically reinsert it | 00:32 |
| babble | unless, of course, you've changed your windows defaults | 00:32 |
| babble | or you can just try writing the image again, and then try booting the problematic system with it | 00:32 |
| babble | do you know how to boot that machine from a USB device? | 00:33 |
| yhelphelp | no... | 00:35 |
| babble | have you already run Unetbootin and written your Xubuntu 11.10 image to that drive? | 00:35 |
| yhelphelp | im now unetbooting it | 00:37 |
| babble | let me know when that finishes. | 00:37 |
| yhelphelp | fat32 format... | 00:37 |
| babble | ignore whatever Windows does or doesn't do as far as the thumb drive is concerned when Unetbootin finishes. | 00:37 |
| babble | when you boot the broken linux system, you should see a vendor/bios screen at boot that says Press Esc for Boot Options (or f2 or f11 or something similar) | 00:38 |
| babble | have you seen that, or something like that, previously? | 00:38 |
| c_smith | is it okay if I run the keyboard command for the bot to see what it has to say? I didn't get to running it the other night. | 00:39 |
| yhelphelp | yes babble i see the BIOS options if I press f2 | 00:39 |
| babble | that should get you to one (of maybe three or four) BIOS screens that will let you choose a different device to boot from. | 00:39 |
| babble | assuming your machine is relatively current (or even not-so-current), booting from a USB device will be among your choices. | 00:40 |
| babble | choose that | 00:40 |
| yhelphelp | ok... | 00:41 |
| yhelphelp | hallo schlaftier wie geht's? | 00:42 |
| yhelphelp | du bist nicht am schlafen... | 00:42 |
| schlaftier | yhelphelp: Danke, gut. Das stimmt! | 00:42 |
| GridCube | !en | 00:42 |
| ubottu | The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList | 00:42 |
| yhelphelp | entered the damned BIOS with the usb stick plugged in... found BOOT priority otder, and I see excluded from boot order: usb zip and usb ls120 | 00:43 |
| babble | I can't say for certain what you need to do for your specific BIOS since I'm not seeing what you're seeing, naturally, but it should be fairly straightforward. | 00:44 |
| yhelphelp | i see 6 entries with USB: usb key, usb fdc... | 00:45 |
| yhelphelp | which one is the correct? | 00:45 |
| babble | try USB key | 00:45 |
| yhelphelp | babble: usb key now in 1st place | 00:45 |
| gridcube_ | /allserv ghost GridCube ENTEI | 00:45 |
| yhelphelp | rebooot now... | 00:45 |
| gridcube_ | OH SHEE | 00:45 |
| gridcube_ | D: | 00:45 |
| knome | o-ou | 00:46 |
| babble | are you asking or telling me what you're doing? | 00:46 |
| yhelphelp | finbgers crossed | 00:46 |
| yhelphelp | please work | 00:46 |
| c_smith | is there anything extra I should be doing with Keytouch to get my keyboard recognized? | 00:46 |
| yhelphelp | telling | 00:46 |
| Unit193 | :D | 00:47 |
| babble | you should really quickly see the same boot screen you saw when booted from CD. | 00:47 |
| c_smith | I've got the FN keys listed, set the program, yet nothing. | 00:47 |
| babble | again, to boot to the LiveCD desktop, choose Try Xubuntu Without Installing | 00:47 |
| yhelphelp | that wasnt the righ usb babble .. JACKPOT!!! | 00:47 |
| gridcube_ | :D new password | 00:47 |
| === gridcube_ is now known as GridCube | ||
| babble | well, as I said, I can't really say for certain what your specific BIOS is or isn't going to want without seeing it | 00:48 |
| babble | are you saying it's booting? | 00:48 |
| yhelphelp | crap, I was writting and didnt choose any option, is the dafault one !try without installing"? | 00:48 |
| yhelphelp | wow | 00:48 |
| yhelphelp | it worked | 00:48 |
| yhelphelp | and it even recognizes internet!!! | 00:48 |
| babble | okay. | 00:48 |
| babble | you have a desktop? | 00:48 |
| yhelphelp | YES I DO!!! | 00:48 |
| babble | finally. | 00:48 |
| yhelphelp | ja endlich | 00:49 |
| yhelphelp | finally | 00:49 |
| babble | From the Apps menu, do Apps > System > GParted | 00:49 |
| yhelphelp | i rally believe you should scrap the "nor cursing" rule | 00:49 |
| yhelphelp | gparted... | 00:49 |
| knome | yhelphelp, disagreed. | 00:50 |
| babble | are you asking me something or telling me something? | 00:50 |
| yhelphelp | telling, im sorry, its late over here, I feel an urge to say everything I write | 00:50 |
| yhelphelp | does that make any sense? | 00:50 |
| babble | are you saying you're in GParted? | 00:50 |
| yhelphelp | yes | 00:51 |
| babble | do you need help to make a new partition in there? | 00:51 |
| c_smith | is there any reason Keytouch (nor the default keyboard in the system) doesn't want to work with Xubuntu 12.04? | 00:51 |
| yhelphelp | yes | 00:52 |
| yhelphelp | sorry, im looking for internet pssword so I can update logs n stuff | 00:53 |
| yhelphelp | in crappy craptop | 00:53 |
| babble | when you're ready to deal with repartitioning, say so | 00:53 |
| knome | yhelphelp, would you please cut down the semi-cursing | 00:54 |
| yhelphelp | yes | 00:54 |
| knome | thanks | 00:54 |
| yhelphelp | i though crap was widely used in america | 00:54 |
| knome | so are other words, but #xubuntu is not america | 00:55 |
| yhelphelp | babble: i can follow your instructions now... | 00:55 |
| yhelphelp | didnt find the password | 00:56 |
| babble | in Parted, you should see one large partition (the current system partition with everything on it) and one small partition (swap) | 00:56 |
| yhelphelp | linux-swap 5.75GB | 00:56 |
| babble | click on the large partition and unmount it (from the Partition menu, choose Unmount) | 00:57 |
| babble | tell me when you're ready | 00:57 |
| yhelphelp | babble: it is already unmounted: thats why I cannot access any of my data (docs and stuff) | 00:58 |
| babble | select that large partition and choose Partition > Move/Resize | 00:58 |
| yhelphelp | done | 00:58 |
| babble | in there, use the slider to collapse that partition down and leave an unformatted 20gb region. | 00:58 |
| babble | (it doesn't need to be exact) | 00:59 |
| yhelphelp | ok, leaving a 20GB part to the right of that slider | 00:59 |
| babble | now click on that unformatted partition and set it to format as a new ext4 partition | 00:59 |
| yhelphelp | free space following (MiB) 20355 | 00:59 |
| yhelphelp | wait, first I have to apply all operations, dont I? | 00:59 |
| babble | we're getting to that | 01:00 |
| babble | set the unformatted region as a new ext4 partition. | 01:00 |
| yhelphelp | babble: its 19.88GB, too little? | 01:00 |
| babble | it will be fine. | 01:00 |
| yhelphelp | does it need a label? | 01:00 |
| babble | if you get a working system back, you can always come back and rearrange things again. | 01:01 |
| babble | you can label it, but when you're running that system, when it's all done, you won't see it | 01:01 |
| babble | so label it if you want to, but it'll be irrelevant, mostly. | 01:01 |
| yhelphelp | ok, done.. apply? | 01:01 |
| babble | now apply | 01:01 |
| yhelphelp | all operations? | 01:01 |
| yhelphelp | ok | 01:01 |
| babble | and go get a coffee | 01:01 |
| yhelphelp | i really hope i dont lose anything... | 01:02 |
| yhelphelp | here we go | 01:02 |
| babble | it's going to run fsck and move stuff around first, so that may take a while. | 01:02 |
| yhelphelp | am I sure? no, but i dont have a choice | 01:02 |
| yhelphelp | ok | 01:02 |
| yhelphelp | can you believe my heart is beating fast? | 01:02 |
| babble | when this gets done, two things: 1. Keep a bootable system handy for the next time you need to do something like this and 2. Back up your files. | 01:03 |
| yhelphelp | yes, i really need to buy another hdd | 01:03 |
| babble | in any case, let Parted do its thing and when that's done, come back | 01:04 |
| yhelphelp | are we talking 30 minutes? 45? | 01:05 |
| babble | it may depend on the existing partition. | 01:05 |
| babble | if it's corrupt, it may take a good while. | 01:05 |
| yhelphelp | so the cd-rom i first trid to boot from, thats useless now... | 01:05 |
| babble | if the directory structure is okay, it'll just need time to shuffle some files around and make enough contiguous space to make the new partition. | 01:06 |
| yhelphelp | tried | 01:06 |
| babble | probably. it sounds like a bad burn | 01:06 |
| yhelphelp | do bard burns happen often? | 01:06 |
| babble | I never burn optical media, so I have no idea these days. | 01:06 |
| yhelphelp | is it that unreliable? lol | 01:07 |
| babble | I haven't regularly burned disks in at least 10 years. | 01:07 |
| babble | so while I didn't have huge issues back then, that was also easily a decade ago, or longer. | 01:07 |
| babble | cheap media will more often result in coasters, as it ever did | 01:07 |
| yhelphelp | earlier you talked about a 20GB file which could be an issue during partition and relocation, didnt you? May i know what file was that? architecture blueprints? | 01:08 |
| yhelphelp | true | 01:08 |
| babble | no, it was a VirtualBox disk image. | 01:08 |
| yhelphelp | i see | 01:09 |
| babble | (blueprints are usually either postscript, or 1-bit TIFFs or similar, so even if the print size is physically large, they're not often multigigabyte files) | 01:10 |
| yhelphelp | i dont know that much: i just imagined that the whole structure of a skycrapper could be a huge file... | 01:11 |
| yhelphelp | speaking from ignorance | 01:11 |
| yhelphelp | or a very long movie with FLAC audio | 01:11 |
| babble | a CAD file that has a gazillion splines and vertexes can easily be several gigabytes, but blueprints are just flat files. | 01:12 |
| yhelphelp | babble: what is your local time? IIMA? | 01:44 |
| babble | it's 20:45 on Saturday, here. | 01:45 |
| yhelphelp | is there a ctrl+t option in xubuntu to see more than one folder at a time? | 01:45 |
| yhelphelp | babble: all operations completed | 01:46 |
| babble | excellent | 01:47 |
| yhelphelp | crap, hope you dont have plans for the next half an hour.. can you help me finish it? | 01:47 |
| babble | you're all set to install a clean system | 01:47 |
| babble | sure, no problem. | 01:47 |
| yhelphelp | reboot? | 01:47 |
| babble | run the installer as usual, and JUST do a straight ahead install on that new, empty 20gb partition | 01:47 |
| babble | no, install a clean system first :) | 01:47 |
| yhelphelp | wait, there is a "install xubuntu 11.10 option in the desktop.. I have to ignore it and log off... | 01:48 |
| babble | no you don't, goofyball | 01:49 |
| babble | RUN THE INSTALLER | 01:49 |
| babble | install on that new partition. | 01:49 |
| yhelphelp | goofyball here doesnt understand (how sad...) you want me to click on the "install 11.10" icon right? | 01:50 |
| babble | Yes :) | 01:51 |
| yhelphelp | this computer currently has ubutu 11.10 on it. what would you like to do? | 01:56 |
| yhelphelp | a) install xubuntu alonside ubuntu | 01:56 |
| yhelphelp | b) upgrade 11.10 to 11.10 (???) | 01:56 |
| yhelphelp | c) erase ubuntu and reinstall | 01:56 |
| yhelphelp | d) something else | 01:56 |
| yhelphelp | something else, right babble ? | 01:58 |
| babble | Something Else... | 01:58 |
| babble | you want to select that new 20gb empty partition to install a new system on | 01:58 |
| babble | The default options will either erase and install, or try and partition your drive, which we've already done. | 01:59 |
| yhelphelp | no root file is defined | 02:00 |
| yhelphelp | please correct from partitioning menu | 02:01 |
| yhelphelp | please babble , help | 02:03 |
| babble | At the installer, choose the 20gb partition, and click Change... | 02:04 |
| babble | select JUST the 20gb partition, tell it to use it as an Ext4 partition, mounted as Root | 02:04 |
| yhelphelp | babble: use as: EXT4 journaling FS... | 02:04 |
| babble | If you want Journaling (you do), yes, and have it format it | 02:05 |
| yhelphelp | mount point: I dont see any root, just boot | 02:05 |
| babble | but I think Parted does journaled ext4 by default | 02:05 |
| babble | the slash | 02:05 |
| babble | just the slash with nothing else | 02:05 |
| babble | / | 02:05 |
| yhelphelp | a, slash.. | 02:05 |
| babble | ignore the large partition | 02:06 |
| yhelphelp | yes | 02:06 |
| babble | don't use it, don't format it, don't do anything to it | 02:06 |
| babble | you JUST want the small, new 20gb partition | 02:06 |
| babble | and it should automatically recognize swap | 02:06 |
| babble | but you can manually define swap too, if you want to | 02:07 |
| yhelphelp | babble: I should ignore the large warning too: the FS on this small partition has not been marked for formmatting. everything will be deleted | 02:07 |
| babble | it doesn't matter. | 02:07 |
| babble | there's nothing on it, remember? | 02:07 |
| yhelphelp | proceedbut im so noob im afraid | 02:07 |
| babble | the dangerous bit is already done. | 02:07 |
| babble | you already repartitioned the drive. | 02:07 |
| babble | as long as you don't do anything to touch the remainder of that big partition, you're fine. | 02:08 |
| yhelphelp | babble: incidentally, does the computer name matter? | 02:10 |
| yhelphelp | or is it just for personification purposes? | 02:10 |
| babble | if you've got a LAN at home, you need to know which computer is which | 02:10 |
| babble | if this is just your own machine, call it bilbo baggins or whatever you want | 02:10 |
| yhelphelp | should I encrypt my home folder? | 02:11 |
| babble | I don't; unless this is a portable, you probably don't care. | 02:11 |
| yhelphelp | its a laptop, if you mean that | 02:11 |
| babble | if you're worried about this computer ever getting stolen, it can't hurt, but I don't use home folder encryption | 02:12 |
| yhelphelp | is encryption resource consuming? time consuming? | 02:12 |
| babble | it's slower, but not unbearably so | 02:14 |
| babble | I keep separate pgp-encrypted archives for certain things I need kept private | 02:15 |
| yhelphelp | its wiping swap space for security now | 02:15 |
| babble | but I don't see any need for whole-home encryption for me personally | 02:15 |
| babble | it's more hassle than it's worth if I need stuff out of /home and I'm on a system without encfs support, for one thing | 02:16 |
| babble | and the installer always formats swap, just because it can | 02:16 |
| babble | don't worry about it | 02:16 |
| yhelphelp | can you say if abiword is a good substitute for libreoffice word? | 02:17 |
| babble | I like Abiword, but I use both (Abiword and libreoffice) | 02:18 |
| yhelphelp | can you say if IBUS is less problematic with xubuntu? I need to write in chinese sometimes | 02:19 |
| yhelphelp | than with ubuntu I mean | 02:19 |
| babble | I can't say, sorry | 02:22 |
| babble | I don't need anything ibus supports | 02:22 |
| yhelphelp | hehe, ok | 02:22 |
| yhelphelp | how many econds pass since you push the power button till xubuntu fully loads? | 02:24 |
| yhelphelp | seconds | 02:24 |
| babble | it depends on what other services you install | 02:25 |
| babble | if you have gvfs-backends, boot time increases a tick | 02:25 |
| babble | if you enable Gnome or KDE services, time-to-useful desktop increases a bit | 02:25 |
| babble | etc | 02:25 |
| babble | how's it going? | 02:33 |
| babble | a clean install on a blank partition should only need about 10-15 mins. | 02:33 |
| yhelphelp | babble: xubuntu's plymouth screen loaded from usb stick looked better than loaded from fresh installation... I am now recording my encryption passphrase (I ticked the box before you answered) | 02:34 |
| babble | you're booting into the newly installed system? | 02:35 |
| yhelphelp | yes | 02:35 |
| babble | okay | 02:35 |
| babble | when you boot all the way back to a desktop, let me know | 02:36 |
| babble | we're going to try and get your installed packages out of the old system | 02:36 |
| babble | actually, I'm not certain, but I think we're going to explicitly need to DISable home folder encryption. | 02:39 |
| yhelphelp | fck | 02:39 |
| babble | because we're going to have you eventually mount your existing home over on the other partition. | 02:39 |
| yhelphelp | true | 02:39 |
| yhelphelp | ok | 02:39 |
| yhelphelp | working desktop | 02:39 |
| yhelphelp | even an update popped up | 02:40 |
| yhelphelp | update manager | 02:40 |
| babble | see here: | 02:40 |
| yhelphelp | I see: 16GB free space in this partition | 02:40 |
| babble | http://askubuntu.com/questions/4950/how-to-stop-using-built-in-home-directory-encryption | 02:40 |
| babble | We can resize that partition to larger later once you have everything set up | 02:40 |
| babble | but bear in mind, MOST of your files are still in /home on the other partition | 02:41 |
| babble | and you can still use that as your home directory | 02:41 |
| yhelphelp | yes im aware of that | 02:41 |
| yhelphelp | but me and my great ideas... | 02:41 |
| babble | well, it will encrypt stuff transparently as it mounts | 02:42 |
| babble | but again, it's more hassle for me than it's worth | 02:42 |
| babble | see that askubuntu question for an easy way to back out of home folder encryption if you want | 02:42 |
| babble | now, go ahead and run all necessary updates to start | 02:43 |
| babble | then we need to mount your old partition and get your package list out of it | 02:44 |
| === oijoij is now known as m00se | ||
| yhelphelp | babble: I can access my old partition, im listening to music from it | 02:44 |
| babble | yes, that's fine, but we're not done yet | 02:45 |
| === m00se is now known as Guest91753 | ||
| yhelphelp | many many thanks for all the help | 02:45 |
| yhelphelp | you do understand im qite exhausted | 02:45 |
| yhelphelp | exausted? | 02:45 |
| yhelphelp | if you dont mind, ill come by im 16 hours or so | 02:45 |
| yhelphelp | back* | 02:45 |
| babble | if you can live with it as it is now, fine. | 02:46 |
| babble | but you can get your package list out of the old system and you can mount your home | 02:46 |
| babble | but come back tomorrow. | 02:46 |
| babble | at least you have a working desktop for now. | 02:46 |
| yhelphelp | sure... | 02:46 |
| yhelphelp | bye then | 02:46 |
| babble | see you later | 02:47 |
| yhelphelp | wow... 5 hours chatting here | 02:47 |
| xubu2 | thunar is having error deleting files from a linked directory. ' can't find or create trash directory?' is this a feature or not? nautilus or dolphin has no issues | 03:38 |
| xubu2 | how do I get around this? TIA | 03:42 |
| xubu2 | also icons showing partitions as mounted when they are not? | 03:49 |
| xubu2 | and mounted partitions listed on fstab is not shown? | 03:50 |
| xubu2 | btw this is straight xubuntu 12.04 B2 install | 03:51 |
| xubu2 | anyone? | 03:54 |
| xubu2 | noone? | 03:55 |
| monser | hello | 06:33 |
| monser | is there a way to make catfish searching for directories? | 06:33 |
| meisterluk | Two days ago I asked here about ideas for my "no sound" problem. I got it fixed. If someone is interested: http://lukas-prokop.at/blog/2012/04/xubuntu-my-no-sound-mystery/ thx anyway | 07:55 |
| knome | meisterluk, hey | 08:11 |
| knome | meisterluk, are you running anything less than 12.04 ? | 08:11 |
| meisterluk | knome: yes, 11.10 | 08:13 |
| knome | meisterluk, okay, was just asking because we applied a fix to that in 12.04 | 08:14 |
| meisterluk | knome: oh great :-) (i'll add that to my weblog) | 08:14 |
| knome | there have been a few people with still broken sound (mostly related to not be able to unmute) | 08:14 |
| knome | i didn't read that carefully enough to know if it's the exactly same bug | 08:14 |
| knome | i don't know the defatils of the original bug either, except it fixs unmuting for many | 08:15 |
| meisterluk | knome: yeah yeah. In some way I just think it's important to be able to find some fixes on the web. So... :-) | 08:16 |
| knome | anyway, pavucontrol will be used over xfce4-mixer in 12.04 | 08:16 |
| knome | and yeah, i agree about finding the fixes part | 08:16 |
| meisterluk | :-) | 08:17 |
| hefs | hello, i just did a clean install of xubuntu and i noticed that firefox comes with an add-on that integrates the menu bar into the unity panel. should that be there? | 08:21 |
| Sysi | hefs: it's some dependency, doesn't cause trouble but safe to remove | 08:22 |
| knome | Sysi, in that case, i wonder why it is dependency | 08:22 |
| knome | Sysi, or is it a "recommends" ? | 08:22 |
| hefs | all right, there's another one as well: ubuntu firefox modifications. i guess i shouldn't disable that one? | 08:23 |
| Sysi | knome: yeah, recommended "dependency", no idea why it's there | 08:25 |
| knome | mmh | 08:26 |
| hefs | thanks, bye | 08:31 |
| === Pici is now known as ZarroBoogs | ||
| c0rtez | hey guys | 12:39 |
| nix01new | h 2 unhide startup services | 13:51 |
| nix01new | ? | 13:51 |
| nix01new | Hello everybody. How to switch off bluetooth daemon at startup? | 13:53 |
| koleoptero | open settings manager, select session and startup, go to the application autostart tab and deselect the blueman applet | 13:54 |
| dexter__ | hi babble | 14:24 |
| dexter__ | im the partition guy from yesterday | 14:24 |
| dexter__ | now from xubuntu in small partition | 14:24 |
| babble | okay. | 14:25 |
| babble | do you have your large partition mounted? | 14:25 |
| dexter__ | yes | 14:25 |
| babble | open a terminal | 14:25 |
| dexter__ | we are going to move te home folder from large to small partition right? | 14:25 |
| babble | no, we're not moving that | 14:25 |
| babble | we will eventually mount your existing home | 14:25 |
| dexter__ | ok, listening | 14:26 |
| babble | but let's get your other installed packages first | 14:26 |
| babble | open a termina. | 14:26 |
| babble | *terminal | 14:26 |
| dexter__ | done | 14:26 |
| babble | cd /media && ls | 14:26 |
| dexter__ | do I have to paste the output? | 14:27 |
| babble | I need to see the name of the large partition as it's mounted. | 14:27 |
| dexter__ | a1d0a058-a2dc-4f43-b99a-6fa0410496c4 | 14:27 |
| babble | chroot a1d0 (then hit TAB and it should autocomplete the rest) | 14:28 |
| babble | sudo chroot, sorry | 14:28 |
| dexter__ | done, hit enter now? | 14:28 |
| babble | yes | 14:28 |
| dexter__ | ok | 14:28 |
| babble | when it switches root, do cd ~ | 14:29 |
| dexter__ | bash: /dev/null: Permission denied in like 80 lines | 14:30 |
| babble | close that terminal. | 14:30 |
| babble | open a new terminal. | 14:30 |
| dexter__ | done | 14:30 |
| babble | sudo su | 14:30 |
| babble | yes, no, maybe? | 14:31 |
| dexter__ | GOOFYGEAD CANNOT ENTGER THE CORRECT PASSWORD sorry for the caps | 14:31 |
| dexter__ | ok done | 14:32 |
| babble | when your prompt switches from $ to # say so | 14:32 |
| babble | okay. cd /media | 14:32 |
| dexter__ | the dot is not part of the command, is it? | 14:32 |
| babble | no. | 14:32 |
| babble | cd /media | 14:32 |
| dexter__ | done | 14:33 |
| babble | chroot a1 <tab> | 14:33 |
| dexter__ | done | 14:34 |
| babble | what's your username on the old installation? | 14:34 |
| dexter__ | dexter, its also the name in the new one | 14:34 |
| dexter__ | original me... | 14:34 |
| babble | what's your username on the OLD installation? | 14:35 |
| babble | cd /home/dexter | 14:35 |
| dexter__ | done | 14:35 |
| babble | cd Documents (or something) | 14:35 |
| babble | see if your expected Documents folder has the contents you expect | 14:36 |
| dexter__ | yes, everything is there | 14:36 |
| babble | cd /home/dexter | 14:36 |
| dexter__ | done | 14:36 |
| babble | dpkg --get-selections > installed-packages.txt | 14:37 |
| dexter__ | done | 14:37 |
| babble | close that terminal. | 14:37 |
| dexter__ | done | 14:37 |
| babble | in Thunar, look on the mounted big partition, in your old home folder (dexter) and there should be a file called installed-packages.txt | 14:38 |
| nix01new | Thank you. But i meant bluetoothd. | 14:39 |
| dexter__ | babble, do I have to paste the output? | 14:40 |
| babble | yes, no, maybe? | 14:40 |
| babble | no. just checking to make sure the file is there. Open Synaptic. | 14:40 |
| dexter__ | http://paste.ubuntu.com/910189/ | 14:41 |
| dexter__ | ok | 14:41 |
| babble | make sure all your current updates are done (Mark All Upgrades & Apply) | 14:42 |
| babble | if you need to do any upgrades, let it do its thing then let me know when it's done. | 14:42 |
| nix01new | Thank you. But i meant bluetoothd. | 14:42 |
| dexter__ | lots of updated needed: but some of those are gnome... I though I had gotten rid of gnome... | 14:43 |
| babble | we'll get to that | 14:43 |
| dexter__ | unity appmenu integration for firefox?? | 14:43 |
| dexter__ | I though I had gotten ridof unity too | 14:43 |
| babble | we're going to use that installed-packages.txt file to return your system to your customized package list | 14:43 |
| babble | but let's get all your updates done first | 14:44 |
| dexter__ | 189MB to download | 14:44 |
| babble | let it do it's thing | 14:44 |
| dexter__ | let you know when im done | 14:44 |
| dexter__ | i will need, too, help to use the FF of the old partition with all addons and stuff... | 14:46 |
| dexter__ | same for xchat | 14:46 |
| babble | we're going to use that installed-packages.txt file to reinstall all of your packages from your old system | 14:46 |
| nix01new | Hi people, how to switch off bluetoothd from startup? | 14:47 |
| dexter__ | reinstall... but that will erase my configuration, wont it? | 14:47 |
| babble | that's why I had you chroot onto the old system, so you could *get* that package list | 14:47 |
| babble | no, your personal configs are still in /home/dexter on the larger partition. | 14:47 |
| babble | we're going to get to using THAT as well | 14:47 |
| dexter__ | ok... | 14:47 |
| babble | but please don't get ahead of things or you'll be endlessly confused like yesterday | 14:48 |
| dexter__ | ok | 14:48 |
| dexter__ | restarting now... | 15:01 |
| dexter__ | back babble | 15:04 |
| babble | okay. all your updates are done? | 15:04 |
| dexter__ | yes | 15:04 |
| babble | open Synaptic | 15:04 |
| dexter__ | done | 15:05 |
| babble | File > Read Markings | 15:05 |
| babble | and load that installed-packages.txt file which is in /home/dexter on the big partition. | 15:05 |
| dexter__ | wow, huge set of files to be added, but "Could not apply changes! Fix broken packages first." | 15:08 |
| babble | in synaptic, click on status | 15:08 |
| babble | look in broken and tell me what's broken | 15:09 |
| dexter__ | done, broken dependencies? | 15:09 |
| dexter__ | ok | 15:09 |
| dexter__ | libvlc5 and libvlccore-dev.. unmark them? | 15:10 |
| babble | just those two? | 15:10 |
| dexter__ | yes | 15:11 |
| dexter__ | vlc project it seems | 15:11 |
| babble | go ahead and unmark those and then do apply | 15:11 |
| babble | yes, you can install newer vlc from the vlc ppa | 15:11 |
| babble | but we'll get to that later. | 15:11 |
| babble | unmark the broken packages and do apply | 15:11 |
| dexter__ | installing 14GB of data | 15:11 |
| babble | relogging, brb. | 15:13 |
| dexter__ | can anyone suggest an estimate of the downloading of 15GB of data through synaptic? 4 hours? | 15:14 |
| dexter__ | 3.30 hours to go babble | 15:26 |
| babble | okay | 15:26 |
| dexter__ | be back in an hour | 15:26 |
| boromir | Can 64-bit version of Xubuntu recognize dual core processors? | 15:54 |
| babble | I'm running on a dual core i3 in Xubuntu 11.10 | 16:04 |
| dexter__ | actually i BELIEVE I could have chosen xubuntu11.1064 bits to install in this small partition, isnt that rught? | 16:38 |
| babble | it depends on your cpu | 16:38 |
| babble | if you have a 64-bit cpu, then yes | 16:38 |
| dexter__ | babble, can I now (still downloading things) use ff from my old partition? | 16:42 |
| babble | it won't work | 16:42 |
| dexter__ | ok | 16:42 |
| babble | it'll be looking for it's shared files and all related stuff on root | 16:42 |
| babble | which is over on the other partition still. | 16:42 |
| dexter__ | 2 hours now... | 17:21 |
| === Unit193 is now known as BufferOverflow | ||
| Alazare619 | anyone here have experience with getting hdmi audio to work? I cant seem to get my hda nvidia to output soundin 10.04 | 17:39 |
| dexter__ | 30 minutes to go... | 17:54 |
| ficarra1002 | Okay, I guess this question would be better off in #ubuntu, but it has a constant flood of chat | 18:04 |
| ficarra1002 | And I'm using xubuntu, so yeah | 18:04 |
| ficarra1002 | I'm having trouble finding a driver for my wireless card, so I used 'windows wireless drivers' | 18:05 |
| ficarra1002 | And follow the proper instructions for that. And yet, it says device not ready, firmware missing | 18:07 |
| ficarra1002 | Nope? | 18:14 |
| BufferOverflow | There was no question. | 18:14 |
| BufferOverflow | Also, you have checked "additional drivers" or "jockey", right? | 18:15 |
| ficarra1002 | Well, my general question, is any suggestions? Know how to fix this? | 18:15 |
| ficarra1002 | Additional drivers got nothing | 18:16 |
| ficarra1002 | What's jockey? | 18:16 |
| BufferOverflow | That's the actual progrma name. | 18:22 |
| ficarra1002 | Ah | 18:23 |
| ficarra1002 | It returned nothing | 18:23 |
| ficarra1002 | How would I find drivers for my card, when the card has the most generic name ever? | 18:24 |
| ficarra1002 | The only way I found it on my windows install, was that the driver was on the dell support page for my computer. | 18:24 |
| BufferOverflow | Looking at the model number, and finding the chipset. | 18:25 |
| mongy | ficarra1002: lspci | grep Network | 18:27 |
| ficarra1002 | ... | 18:28 |
| ficarra1002 | I love you | 18:28 |
| ficarra1002 | Windows device manager gave me "broadcom 802.11 controller." So did the download page on dell's site. That actually gave me everything. | 18:30 |
| === Eric is now known as Guest18086 | ||
| dexter__ | ia bable going to be back? | 18:46 |
| dexter__ | is* | 18:46 |
| dexter__ | hi babble | 18:50 |
| mongy | ficarra1002: so what is the complete string | 18:50 |
| babble | hi dexter__ | 18:50 |
| babble | still installing? | 18:50 |
| dexter__ | Im now donwloading stuff from synaptic, but Im afraid I many need to enlagge the partition... only 5GB free now... | 18:50 |
| babble | we can do that, but let it install | 18:50 |
| babble | it will fail gracefully if it runs out of space, and we'll deal with enlarging your partition if it does. | 18:51 |
| dexter__ | ok | 18:51 |
| dexter__ | I now realize I have lots of "stupid" installations: I dont need all kde language packages, nor do I need all firefox locales to read text in alphabets other than latin... do I? | 18:52 |
| babble | you might | 18:53 |
| babble | I don't use any non-latin language support, so I'm not certain. | 18:53 |
| dexter__ | and gnome language packages? I can get rid of those now that im using xfce, cant I? | 18:54 |
| babble | it depends on what Gnome services you may have been running previously. | 18:54 |
| === ficarra1002 is now known as Guest77128 | ||
| babble | (I use Gnome services for multimedia keys, among other things.) | 18:55 |
| babble | in any case, you're fretting over space, and you don't need to | 18:55 |
| babble | we'll enlarge your system partition as necessary | 18:55 |
| dexter__ | ok | 18:55 |
| babble | (we're also not going to KEEP the broken system on the large partition) | 18:55 |
| GridCube | dexter__, | 18:58 |
| dexter__ | GridCube, | 18:58 |
| GridCube | you where here yesterday with another name? | 18:58 |
| dexter__ | yes | 18:58 |
| GridCube | please use the same nick all the time | 18:59 |
| dexter__ | as soon as I start using xchat with the old partition configuration Ill switch to the name for the freenode network, | 18:59 |
| dexter__ | there is going to be another change | 18:59 |
| GridCube | dexter__, use /nick | 19:00 |
| GridCube | /nick choosednickname | 19:00 |
| babble | if you'll let me take you through this a step at a time instead of blindly rushing ahead, when this is done, your computer will feel exactly like it did before. | 19:00 |
| dexter__ | babble, I was only informing GridCube | 19:01 |
| GridCube | dexter__, please do as babble said | 19:01 |
| babble | when you have a working system installed and done, we'll nuke the broken system on the old partition and then set up your /home to mount automatically. | 19:01 |
| GridCube | dexter__, he knows | 19:01 |
| babble | /unignore SuperMe | 19:13 |
| babble | blargh | 19:13 |
| Guest77128 | OK, what the hell | 19:18 |
| === Guest77128 is now known as ficarra | ||
| ficarra | Ndiswrapper says installed, detected | 19:18 |
| dexter__ | babble, free space in small partition 0 bytes, but synaptic keeps installing, no error message showed | 19:19 |
| ficarra | Yet, my connections still says 'devices not ready (firmware missing) ' | 19:19 |
| ficarra | I know i had it work on this laptop a few years ago | 19:20 |
| ubuntu_ | babble> booted from usb stick | 19:42 |
| ubuntu_ | now> gparted and resize | 19:42 |
| ubuntu_ | rite_ | 19:42 |
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| === m00se is now known as Guest82339 | ||
| === Guest82339 is now known as m00se | ||
| === oijoij is now known as m00se | ||
| === m00se is now known as Guest45664 | ||
| === Guest45664 is now known as m00se | ||
| ubuntu_ | is babble in_ | 20:39 |
| ubuntu_ | hi babble its now checkin FS for errors | 20:39 |
| earspliT | lol funny joke | 21:42 |
| earspliT | rebasing to debian | 21:42 |
| earspliT | lol happy april fools | 21:42 |
| miarf | hi, i've run into a minor annoyance in xubuntu 11.10. whenever I open the settings manager, it opens in the botton right corner of the screen | 22:19 |
| miarf | any idea how to make it open in the center of the screen? | 22:19 |
| mongy | miarf: devilspie or if using compiz using ccsm | 22:19 |
| miarf | thanks, i'll look into it | 22:21 |
| miarf | btw, does the window open down there for others as well, or have I messed something up? | 22:21 |
| drudogg | i use xubuntu 10.04 and it opens in the bottom left... fyi | 22:22 |
| miarf | i see, thanks | 22:23 |
| drudogg | too minor for me to care much, but would be nice if it opened center as you describe. | 22:23 |
| miarf | actually there seems to be a kind of an intelligent positioning going on | 22:24 |
| miarf | if I have something else open in the corner, it'll open somewhere else | 22:24 |
| mongy | that's the idea. | 22:26 |
| drudogg | you're probably right... it seems to me each window opens in some sort of default location... so there has to be a way to change it. | 22:26 |
| mongy | wherever has the most screen space | 22:26 |
| mongy | window manager tweaks has the option. | 22:27 |
| drudogg | what? intelligence in an OS?? OMG how I am NOT missing Windows... | 22:27 |
| mongy | window management tweaks, placement. | 22:28 |
| mongy | raise the slider | 22:28 |
| miarf | yeah, setting it to the far right works | 22:28 |
| miarf | thanks for the advice | 22:28 |
| mongy | I use compiz so I just set what window to where and how big | 22:28 |
| nabukadnezar43 | hi, is there a way to add a user to open serial ports? | 22:29 |
| miarf | also, any idea what would be the best way to have a roguelike game (that runs in the terminal) have a larger font than the other terminal windows? | 22:29 |
| nabukadnezar43 | currently i need to be root to open a port like ttyUSB0 | 22:29 |
| miarf | adom feels funky with a small font, and irc looks crazy with a large font :) | 22:29 |
| Alazare619 | ok im having an issue with hdmi audio output | 23:34 |
| Alazare619 | i have a mcp67 chipset on my motherboard thats nforce 630a i have hdmi out i cna get video no problem i currently have the propeitary driver installed the newest from there site (nvidia) | 23:34 |
| Alazare619 | any ideas what I get no sound? | 23:35 |
| GridCube | Alazare619 try to configure it with pavucontrol | 23:38 |
| Alazare619 | pavucontrol? | 23:38 |
| Alazare619 | GridCube: ?? | 23:40 |
| GridCube | yes | 23:40 |
| Alazare619 | what is pavucontrol? | 23:40 |
| GridCube | a sound configuration tool | 23:40 |
| GridCube | if you dont have install it with sudo apt-get install pavucontrol | 23:41 |
| Alazare619 | doing that now however i dont have pulseaudio | 23:41 |
| Alazare619 | i run alsa | 23:41 |
| Alazare619 | is that going to cause problems? | 23:41 |
| GridCube | Alazare619, xubuntu works better with pavucontrol | 23:41 |
| GridCube | thats why it will come as default with 12.04 | 23:42 |
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