[00:07] <yhelphelp> what does nomodeset do?
[00:08] <babble> it will boot it using a generic graphics driver (i.e. a 1024x768 vesa session, stretched across the display)
[00:09] <babble> or, in your case, attempt to boot.
[00:09] <yhelphelp> have nothing to lose here...
[00:11] <yhelphelp> i tried and old 10.10 livecd that I have and it loaded, but only a desktop, no cions and only the exit menu to turn the thing off
[00:11] <yhelphelp> cions icons*
[00:12] <babble> it's been a while since I looked at a 10.10 livecd.
[00:12] <babble> what's in the menu when that loads to the desktop?
[00:13] <babble> that should have had not a whole lot on the desktop. just the mounted cd and an installer icon, if I recall correctly
[00:14] <babble> in any case, if it successfully boots a 10.10 CD (I suppose that's a debatable question at this point until you try and load something off that running CD) that should at least narrow it down to a bad burn on that new 11.10 disk
[00:22] <yhelphelp> a guangdong, i miss their food
[00:23] <yhelphelp> im in xubuntu from recovery console again with a usb stick that doesnt automount it seems... help please, I can copy its content to crappy linux and use as boot usb...
[00:24] <babble> what size is the USB drive?
[00:25] <yhelphelp> babble: 8GB when totally empty (well 7.4)
[00:25] <babble> can you get to a desktop on SOMEthing (Windows or Linux) in order to run Unetbootin?
[00:25] <babble> (or Linux Startup Disk Creator on Linux, if you have a working, sort of, Linux)
[00:26] <yhelphelp> I have used unetbooting once, I can download it here in windows
[00:26] <babble> how did you attempt to make the USB stick bootable currently?
[00:27] <babble> Unetbootin for Windows is here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/unetbootin/files/UNetbootin/568/unetbootin-windows-568.exe/download
[00:27] <yhelphelp> i dont understand the "currently" in the sentence
[00:27] <yhelphelp> if you mean, why now? cause I got out of options
[00:27] <babble> what did you do to the USB stick you're trying to use to put a bootable system on it? if you just copied the ISO to it, it won't work
[00:28] <babble> if you did something that *should* be bootable, but your system still doesn't boot, that would be useful to know, to try and sort out what, exactly, is going on
[00:28] <yhelphelp> no babble , I chose unetbooting, an iso copy and make something (dont recall) but what does that have to do with where to find it?
[00:29] <yhelphelp> but it wasnt just the iso copied to the usb
[00:29] <babble> You've done so very many many things at this point that I'm trying to sort out just what, exactly, you're doing.
[00:29] <yhelphelp> i understand
[00:29] <yhelphelp> make a bootable usb from the .iso with unetbootin
[00:30] <babble> are you attempting to mount that drive while you're booted into the broken system that you can't successfully start x on, or get to a console on, or on which you've been having many and various problems?
[00:31] <babble> or are you attempting to mount that drive on a different machine?
[00:31] <yhelphelp> im sorry for being this confusing: here in the windows machine
[00:31] <yhelphelp> ill just reformat the usb (I dont exactly remember whats in)
[00:32] <babble> unetbootin won't remount the thumb drive automatically for you.
[00:32] <babble> if you've successully written the image to it, pull the drive and physically reinsert it
[00:32] <babble> unless, of course, you've changed your windows defaults
[00:32] <babble> or you can just try writing the image again, and then try booting the problematic system with it
[00:33] <babble> do you know how to boot that machine from a USB device?
[00:35] <yhelphelp> no...
[00:35] <babble> have you already run Unetbootin and written your Xubuntu 11.10 image to that drive?
[00:37] <yhelphelp> im now unetbooting it
[00:37] <babble> let me know when that finishes.
[00:37] <yhelphelp> fat32 format...
[00:37] <babble> ignore whatever Windows does or doesn't do as far as the thumb drive is concerned when Unetbootin finishes.
[00:38] <babble> when you boot the broken linux system, you should see a vendor/bios screen at boot that says Press Esc for Boot Options (or f2 or f11 or something similar)
[00:38] <babble> have you seen that, or something like that, previously?
[00:39] <c_smith> is it okay if I run the keyboard command for the bot to see what it has to say? I didn't get to running it the other night.
[00:39] <yhelphelp> yes babble i see the BIOS options if I press f2
[00:39] <babble> that should get you to one (of maybe three or four) BIOS screens that will let you choose a different device to boot from.
[00:40] <babble> assuming your machine is relatively current (or even not-so-current), booting from a USB device will be among your choices.
[00:40] <babble> choose that
[00:41] <yhelphelp> ok...
[00:42] <yhelphelp> hallo schlaftier wie geht's?
[00:42] <yhelphelp> du bist nicht am schlafen...
[00:42] <schlaftier> yhelphelp: Danke, gut. Das stimmt!
[00:42] <GridCube> !en
[00:43] <yhelphelp> entered the damned BIOS with the usb stick plugged in... found BOOT priority otder, and I see excluded from boot order: usb zip and usb ls120
[00:44] <babble> I can't say for certain what you need to do for your specific BIOS since I'm not seeing what you're seeing, naturally, but it should be fairly straightforward.
[00:45] <yhelphelp> i see 6 entries with USB: usb key, usb fdc...
[00:45] <yhelphelp> which one is the correct?
[00:45] <babble> try USB key
[00:45] <yhelphelp> babble: usb key now in 1st place
[00:45] <gridcube_> /allserv ghost GridCube ENTEI
[00:45] <yhelphelp> rebooot now...
[00:45] <gridcube_> OH SHEE
[00:45] <gridcube_> D:
[00:46] <knome> o-ou
[00:46] <babble> are you asking or telling me what you're doing?
[00:46] <yhelphelp> finbgers crossed
[00:46] <yhelphelp> please work
[00:46] <c_smith> is there anything extra I should be doing with Keytouch to get my keyboard recognized?
[00:46] <yhelphelp> telling
[00:47] <Unit193> :D
[00:47] <babble> you should really quickly see the same boot screen you saw when booted from CD.
[00:47] <c_smith> I've got the FN keys listed, set the program, yet nothing.
[00:47] <babble> again, to boot to the LiveCD desktop, choose Try Xubuntu Without Installing
[00:47] <yhelphelp> that wasnt the righ usb babble .. JACKPOT!!!
[00:47] <gridcube_> :D new password
[00:48] <babble> well, as I said, I can't really say for certain what your specific BIOS is or isn't going to want without seeing it
[00:48] <babble> are you saying it's booting?
[00:48] <yhelphelp> crap, I was writting and didnt choose any option, is the dafault one !try without installing"?
[00:48] <yhelphelp> wow
[00:48] <yhelphelp> it worked
[00:48] <yhelphelp> and it even recognizes internet!!!
[00:48] <babble> okay.
[00:48] <babble> you have a desktop?
[00:48] <yhelphelp> YES I DO!!!
[00:48] <babble> finally.
[00:49] <yhelphelp> ja endlich
[00:49] <yhelphelp> finally
[00:49] <babble> From the Apps menu, do Apps > System > GParted
[00:49] <yhelphelp> i rally believe you should scrap the "nor cursing" rule
[00:49] <yhelphelp> gparted...
[00:50] <knome> yhelphelp, disagreed.
[00:50] <babble> are you asking me something or telling me something?
[00:50] <yhelphelp> telling, im sorry, its late over here, I feel an urge to say everything I write
[00:50] <yhelphelp> does that make any sense?
[00:50] <babble> are you saying you're in GParted?
[00:51] <yhelphelp> yes
[00:51] <babble> do you need help to make a new partition in there?
[00:51] <c_smith> is there any reason Keytouch (nor the default keyboard in the system) doesn't want to work with Xubuntu 12.04?
[00:52] <yhelphelp> yes
[00:53] <yhelphelp> sorry, im looking for internet pssword so I can update logs n stuff
[00:53] <yhelphelp> in crappy craptop
[00:53] <babble> when you're ready to deal with repartitioning, say so
[00:54] <knome> yhelphelp, would you please cut down the semi-cursing
[00:54] <yhelphelp> yes
[00:54] <knome> thanks
[00:54] <yhelphelp> i though crap was widely used in america
[00:55] <knome> so are other words, but #xubuntu is not america
[00:55] <yhelphelp> babble: i can follow your instructions now...
[00:56] <yhelphelp> didnt find the password
[00:56] <babble> in Parted, you should see one large partition (the current system partition with everything on it) and one small partition (swap)
[00:56] <yhelphelp> linux-swap 5.75GB
[00:57] <babble> click on the large partition and unmount it (from the Partition menu, choose Unmount)
[00:57] <babble> tell me when you're ready
[00:58] <yhelphelp> babble: it is already unmounted: thats why I cannot access any of my data (docs and stuff)
[00:58] <babble> select that large partition and choose Partition > Move/Resize
[00:58] <yhelphelp> done
[00:58] <babble> in there, use the slider to collapse that partition down and leave an unformatted 20gb region.
[00:59] <babble> (it doesn't need to be exact)
[00:59] <yhelphelp> ok, leaving a 20GB part to the right of that slider
[00:59] <babble> now click on that unformatted partition and set it to format as a new ext4 partition
[00:59] <yhelphelp> free space following (MiB) 20355
[00:59] <yhelphelp> wait, first I have to apply all operations, dont I?
[01:00] <babble> we're getting to that
[01:00] <babble> set the unformatted region as a new ext4 partition.
[01:00] <yhelphelp> babble: its 19.88GB, too little?
[01:00] <babble> it will be fine.
[01:00] <yhelphelp> does it need a label?
[01:01] <babble> if you get a working system back, you can always come back and rearrange things again.
[01:01] <babble> you can label it, but when you're running that system, when it's all done, you won't see it
[01:01] <babble> so label it if you want to, but it'll be irrelevant, mostly.
[01:01] <yhelphelp> ok, done.. apply?
[01:01] <babble> now apply
[01:01] <yhelphelp> all operations?
[01:01] <yhelphelp> ok
[01:01] <babble> and go get a coffee
[01:02] <yhelphelp> i really hope i dont lose anything...
[01:02] <yhelphelp> here we go
[01:02] <babble> it's going to run fsck and move stuff around first, so that may take a while.
[01:02] <yhelphelp> am I sure? no, but i dont have a choice
[01:02] <yhelphelp> ok
[01:02] <yhelphelp> can you believe my heart is beating fast?
[01:03] <babble> when this gets done, two things: 1. Keep a bootable system handy for the next time you need to do something like this and 2. Back up your files.
[01:03] <yhelphelp> yes, i really need to buy another hdd
[01:04] <babble> in any case, let Parted do its thing and when that's done, come back
[01:05] <yhelphelp> are we talking 30 minutes? 45?
[01:05] <babble> it may depend on the existing partition.
[01:05] <babble> if it's corrupt, it may take a good while.
[01:05] <yhelphelp> so the cd-rom i first trid to boot from, thats useless now...
[01:06] <babble> if the directory structure is okay, it'll just need time to shuffle some files around and make enough contiguous space to make the new partition.
[01:06] <yhelphelp> tried
[01:06] <babble> probably. it sounds like a bad burn
[01:06] <yhelphelp> do bard burns happen often?
[01:06] <babble> I never burn optical media, so I have no idea these days.
[01:07] <yhelphelp> is it that unreliable? lol
[01:07] <babble> I haven't regularly burned disks in at least 10 years.
[01:07] <babble> so while I didn't have huge issues back then, that was also easily a decade ago, or longer.
[01:07] <babble> cheap media will more often result in coasters, as it ever did
[01:08] <yhelphelp> earlier you talked about a 20GB file which could be an issue during partition and relocation, didnt you? May i know what file was that? architecture blueprints?
[01:08] <yhelphelp> true
[01:08] <babble> no, it was a VirtualBox disk image.
[01:09] <yhelphelp> i see
[01:10] <babble> (blueprints are usually either postscript, or 1-bit TIFFs or similar, so even if the print size is physically large, they're not often multigigabyte files)
[01:11] <yhelphelp> i dont know that much: i just imagined that the whole structure of a skycrapper could be a huge file...
[01:11] <yhelphelp> speaking from ignorance
[01:11] <yhelphelp> or a very long movie with FLAC audio
[01:12] <babble> a CAD file that has a gazillion splines and vertexes can easily be several gigabytes, but blueprints are just flat files.
[01:44] <yhelphelp> babble: what is your local time? IIMA?
[01:45] <babble>  it's 20:45 on Saturday, here.
[01:45] <yhelphelp> is there a ctrl+t option in xubuntu to see more than one folder at a time?
[01:46] <yhelphelp> babble: all operations completed
[01:47] <babble> excellent
[01:47] <yhelphelp> crap, hope you dont have plans for the next half an hour.. can you help me finish it?
[01:47] <babble> you're all set to install a clean system
[01:47] <babble> sure, no problem.
[01:47] <yhelphelp> reboot?
[01:47] <babble> run the installer as usual, and JUST do a straight ahead install on that new, empty 20gb partition
[01:47] <babble> no, install a clean system first :)
[01:48] <yhelphelp> wait, there is a "install xubuntu 11.10 option in the desktop.. I have to ignore it and log off...
[01:49] <babble> no you don't, goofyball
[01:49] <babble> RUN THE INSTALLER
[01:49] <babble> install on that new partition.
[01:50] <yhelphelp> goofyball here doesnt understand (how sad...) you want me to click on the "install 11.10" icon right?
[01:51] <babble> Yes :)
[01:56] <yhelphelp> this computer currently has ubutu 11.10 on it. what would you like to do?
[01:56] <yhelphelp> a) install xubuntu alonside ubuntu
[01:56] <yhelphelp> b) upgrade 11.10 to 11.10 (???)
[01:56] <yhelphelp> c) erase ubuntu and reinstall
[01:56] <yhelphelp> d) something else
[01:58] <yhelphelp> something else, right babble ?
[01:58] <babble> Something Else...
[01:58] <babble> you want to select that new 20gb empty partition to install a new system on
[01:59] <babble> The default options will either erase and install, or try and partition your drive, which we've already done.
[02:00] <yhelphelp> no root file is defined
[02:01] <yhelphelp> please correct from partitioning menu
[02:03] <yhelphelp> please babble , help
[02:04] <babble> At the installer, choose the 20gb partition, and click Change...
[02:04] <babble> select JUST the 20gb partition, tell it to use it as an Ext4 partition, mounted as Root
[02:04] <yhelphelp> babble: use as: EXT4 journaling FS...
[02:05] <babble> If you want Journaling (you do), yes, and have it format it
[02:05] <yhelphelp> mount point: I dont see any root, just boot
[02:05] <babble> but I think Parted does journaled ext4 by default
[02:05] <babble> the slash
[02:05] <babble> just the slash with nothing else
[02:05] <babble>  /
[02:05] <yhelphelp> a, slash..
[02:06] <babble> ignore the large partition
[02:06] <yhelphelp> yes
[02:06] <babble> don't use it, don't format it, don't do anything to it
[02:06] <babble> you JUST want the small, new 20gb partition
[02:06] <babble> and it should automatically recognize swap
[02:07] <babble> but you can manually define swap too, if you want to
[02:07] <yhelphelp> babble: I should ignore the large warning too: the FS on this small partition has not been marked for formmatting. everything will be deleted
[02:07] <babble> it doesn't matter.
[02:07] <babble> there's nothing on it, remember?
[02:07] <yhelphelp> proceedbut im so noob im afraid
[02:07] <babble> the dangerous bit is already done.
[02:07] <babble> you already repartitioned the drive.
[02:08] <babble> as long as you don't do anything to touch the remainder of that big partition, you're fine.
[02:10] <yhelphelp> babble: incidentally, does the computer name matter?
[02:10] <yhelphelp> or is it just for personification purposes?
[02:10] <babble> if you've got a LAN at home, you need to know which computer is which
[02:10] <babble> if this is just your own machine, call it bilbo baggins or whatever you want
[02:11] <yhelphelp> should I encrypt my home folder?
[02:11] <babble> I don't; unless this is a portable, you probably don't care.
[02:11] <yhelphelp> its a laptop, if you mean that
[02:12] <babble> if you're worried about this computer ever getting stolen, it can't hurt, but I don't use home folder encryption
[02:12] <yhelphelp> is encryption resource consuming? time consuming?
[02:14] <babble> it's slower, but not unbearably so
[02:15] <babble> I keep separate pgp-encrypted archives for certain things I need kept private
[02:15] <yhelphelp> its wiping swap space for security now
[02:15] <babble> but I don't see any need for whole-home encryption for me personally
[02:16] <babble> it's more hassle than it's worth if I need stuff out of /home and I'm on a system without encfs support, for one thing
[02:16] <babble> and the installer always formats swap, just because it can
[02:16] <babble> don't worry about it
[02:17] <yhelphelp> can you say if abiword is a good substitute for libreoffice word?
[02:18] <babble> I like Abiword, but I use both (Abiword and libreoffice)
[02:19] <yhelphelp> can you say if IBUS is less problematic with xubuntu? I need to write in chinese sometimes
[02:19] <yhelphelp> than with ubuntu I mean
[02:22] <babble> I can't say, sorry
[02:22] <babble> I don't need anything ibus supports
[02:22] <yhelphelp> hehe, ok
[02:24] <yhelphelp> how many econds pass since you push the power button till xubuntu fully loads?
[02:24] <yhelphelp> seconds
[02:25] <babble> it depends on what other services you install
[02:25] <babble> if you have gvfs-backends, boot time increases a tick
[02:25] <babble> if you enable Gnome or KDE services, time-to-useful desktop increases a bit
[02:25] <babble> etc
[02:33] <babble> how's it going?
[02:33] <babble> a clean install on a blank partition should only need about 10-15 mins.
[02:34] <yhelphelp> babble: xubuntu's plymouth screen loaded from usb stick looked better than loaded from fresh installation... I am now recording my encryption passphrase (I ticked the box before you answered)
[02:35] <babble> you're booting into the newly installed system?
[02:35] <yhelphelp> yes
[02:35] <babble> okay
[02:36] <babble> when you boot all the way back to a desktop, let me know
[02:36] <babble> we're going to try and get your installed packages out of the old system
[02:39] <babble> actually, I'm not certain, but I think we're going to explicitly need to DISable home folder encryption.
[02:39] <yhelphelp> fck
[02:39] <babble> because we're going to have you eventually mount your existing home over on the other partition.
[02:39] <yhelphelp> true
[02:39] <yhelphelp> ok
[02:39] <yhelphelp> working desktop
[02:40] <yhelphelp> even an update popped up
[02:40] <yhelphelp> update manager
[02:40] <babble> see here:
[02:40] <yhelphelp> I see: 16GB free space in this partition
[02:40] <babble> http://askubuntu.com/questions/4950/how-to-stop-using-built-in-home-directory-encryption
[02:40] <babble> We can resize that partition to larger later once you have everything set up
[02:41] <babble> but bear in mind, MOST of your files are still in /home on the other partition
[02:41] <babble> and you can still use that as your home directory
[02:41] <yhelphelp> yes im aware of that
[02:41] <yhelphelp> but me and my great ideas...
[02:42] <babble> well, it will encrypt stuff transparently as it mounts
[02:42] <babble> but again, it's more hassle for me than it's worth
[02:42] <babble> see that askubuntu question for an easy way to back out of home folder encryption if you want
[02:43] <babble> now, go ahead and run all necessary updates to start
[02:44] <babble> then we need to mount your old partition and get your package list out of it
[02:44] <yhelphelp> babble: I can access my old partition, im listening to music from it
[02:45] <babble> yes, that's fine, but we're not done yet
[02:45] <yhelphelp> many many thanks for all the help
[02:45] <yhelphelp> you do understand im qite exhausted
[02:45] <yhelphelp> exausted?
[02:45] <yhelphelp> if you dont mind, ill come by im 16 hours or so
[02:45] <yhelphelp> back*
[02:46] <babble> if you can live with it as it is now, fine.
[02:46] <babble> but you can get your package list out of the old system and you can mount your home
[02:46] <babble> but come back tomorrow.
[02:46] <babble> at least you have a working desktop for now.
[02:46] <yhelphelp> sure...
[02:46] <yhelphelp> bye then
[02:47] <babble> see you later
[02:47] <yhelphelp> wow... 5 hours chatting here
[03:38] <xubu2>  thunar is having error deleting files from a linked directory. ' can't find or create trash directory?' is this a feature or not? nautilus or dolphin has no issues
[03:42] <xubu2> how do I get around this? TIA
[03:49] <xubu2> also icons showing partitions as mounted when they are not?
[03:50] <xubu2> and mounted partitions listed on fstab is not shown?
[03:51] <xubu2> btw this is straight xubuntu 12.04 B2 install
[03:54] <xubu2> anyone?
[03:55] <xubu2> noone?
[06:33] <monser> hello
[06:33] <monser> is there a way to make catfish searching for directories?
[07:55] <meisterluk> Two days ago I asked here about ideas for my "no sound" problem. I got it fixed. If someone is interested: http://lukas-prokop.at/blog/2012/04/xubuntu-my-no-sound-mystery/ thx anyway
[08:11] <knome> meisterluk, hey
[08:11] <knome> meisterluk, are you running anything less than 12.04 ?
[08:13] <meisterluk> knome: yes, 11.10
[08:14] <knome> meisterluk, okay, was just asking because we applied a fix to that in 12.04
[08:14] <meisterluk> knome: oh great :-) (i'll add that to my weblog)
[08:14] <knome> there have been a few people with still broken sound (mostly related to not be able to unmute)
[08:14] <knome> i didn't read that carefully enough to know if it's the exactly same bug
[08:15] <knome> i don't know the defatils of the original bug either, except it fixs unmuting for many
[08:16] <meisterluk> knome: yeah yeah. In some way I just think it's important to be able to find some fixes on the web. So... :-)
[08:16] <knome> anyway, pavucontrol will be used over xfce4-mixer in 12.04
[08:16] <knome> and yeah, i agree about finding the fixes part
[08:17] <meisterluk> :-)
[08:21] <hefs> hello, i just did a clean install of xubuntu and i noticed that firefox comes with an add-on that integrates the menu bar into the unity panel. should that be there?
[08:22] <Sysi> hefs: it's some dependency, doesn't cause trouble but safe to remove
[08:22] <knome> Sysi, in that case, i wonder why it is dependency
[08:22] <knome> Sysi, or is it a "recommends" ?
[08:23] <hefs> all right, there's another one as well: ubuntu firefox modifications. i guess i shouldn't disable that one?
[08:25] <Sysi> knome: yeah, recommended "dependency", no idea why it's there
[08:26] <knome> mmh
[08:31] <hefs> thanks, bye
[12:39] <c0rtez> hey guys
[13:51] <nix01new> h 2 unhide startup services
[13:51] <nix01new> ?
[13:53] <nix01new> Hello everybody. How to switch off bluetooth daemon at startup?
[13:54] <koleoptero> open settings manager, select session and startup, go to the application autostart tab and deselect the blueman applet
[14:24] <dexter__> hi babble
[14:24] <dexter__> im the partition guy from yesterday
[14:24] <dexter__> now from xubuntu in small partition
[14:25] <babble> okay.
[14:25] <babble> do you have your large partition mounted?
[14:25] <dexter__> yes
[14:25] <babble> open a terminal
[14:25] <dexter__> we are going to move te home folder from large to small partition right?
[14:25] <babble> no, we're not moving that
[14:25] <babble> we will eventually mount your existing home
[14:26] <dexter__> ok, listening
[14:26] <babble> but let's get your other installed packages first
[14:26] <babble> open a termina.
[14:26] <babble> *terminal
[14:26] <dexter__> done
[14:26] <babble> cd /media && ls
[14:27] <dexter__> do I have to paste the output?
[14:27] <babble> I need to see the name of the large partition as it's mounted.
[14:27] <dexter__> a1d0a058-a2dc-4f43-b99a-6fa0410496c4
[14:28] <babble> chroot a1d0 (then hit TAB and it should autocomplete the rest)
[14:28] <babble> sudo chroot, sorry
[14:28] <dexter__> done, hit enter now?
[14:28] <babble> yes
[14:28] <dexter__> ok
[14:29] <babble> when it switches root, do cd ~
[14:30] <dexter__> bash: /dev/null: Permission denied in like 80 lines
[14:30] <babble> close that terminal.
[14:30] <babble> open a new terminal.
[14:30] <dexter__> done
[14:30] <babble> sudo su
[14:31] <babble> yes, no, maybe?
[14:31] <dexter__> GOOFYGEAD CANNOT ENTGER THE CORRECT PASSWORD sorry for the caps
[14:32] <dexter__> ok done
[14:32] <babble> when your prompt switches from $ to # say so
[14:32] <babble> okay. cd /media
[14:32] <dexter__> the dot is not part of the command, is it?
[14:32] <babble> no.
[14:32] <babble> cd /media
[14:33] <dexter__> done
[14:33] <babble> chroot a1 <tab>
[14:34] <dexter__> done
[14:34] <babble> what's your username on the old installation?
[14:34] <dexter__> dexter, its also the name in the new one
[14:34] <dexter__> original me...
[14:35] <babble> what's your username on the OLD installation?
[14:35] <babble> cd /home/dexter
[14:35] <dexter__> done
[14:35] <babble> cd Documents (or something)
[14:36] <babble> see if your expected Documents folder has the contents you expect
[14:36] <dexter__> yes, everything is there
[14:36] <babble> cd /home/dexter
[14:36] <dexter__> done
[14:37] <babble> dpkg --get-selections > installed-packages.txt
[14:37] <dexter__> done
[14:37] <babble> close that terminal.
[14:37] <dexter__> done
[14:38] <babble> in Thunar, look on the mounted big partition, in your old home folder (dexter) and there should be a file called installed-packages.txt
[14:39] <nix01new> Thank you. But i meant bluetoothd.
[14:40] <dexter__> babble, do I have to paste the output?
[14:40] <babble> yes, no, maybe?
[14:40] <babble> no. just checking to make sure the file is there. Open Synaptic.
[14:41] <dexter__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/910189/
[14:41] <dexter__> ok
[14:42] <babble> make sure all your current updates are done (Mark All Upgrades & Apply)
[14:42] <babble> if you need to do any upgrades, let it do its thing then let me know when it's done.
[14:42] <nix01new> Thank you. But i meant bluetoothd.
[14:43] <dexter__> lots of updated needed: but some of those are gnome... I though I had gotten rid of gnome...
[14:43] <babble> we'll get to that
[14:43] <dexter__> unity appmenu integration for firefox??
[14:43] <dexter__> I though I had gotten ridof unity too
[14:43] <babble> we're going to use that installed-packages.txt file to return your system to your customized package list
[14:44] <babble> but let's get all your updates done first
[14:44] <dexter__> 189MB to download
[14:44] <babble> let it do it's thing
[14:44] <dexter__> let you know when im done
[14:46] <dexter__> i will need, too, help to use the FF of the old partition with all addons and stuff...
[14:46] <dexter__> same for xchat
[14:46] <babble> we're going to use that installed-packages.txt file to reinstall all of your packages from your old system
[14:47] <nix01new> Hi people, how to switch off bluetoothd from startup?
[14:47] <dexter__> reinstall... but that will erase my configuration, wont it?
[14:47] <babble> that's why I had you chroot onto the old system, so you could *get* that package list
[14:47] <babble> no, your personal configs are still in /home/dexter on the larger partition.
[14:47] <babble> we're going to get to using THAT as well
[14:47] <dexter__> ok...
[14:48] <babble> but please don't get ahead of things or you'll be endlessly confused like yesterday
[14:48] <dexter__> ok
[15:01] <dexter__> restarting now...
[15:04] <dexter__> back babble
[15:04] <babble> okay. all your updates are done?
[15:04] <dexter__> yes
[15:04] <babble> open Synaptic
[15:05] <dexter__> done
[15:05] <babble> File > Read Markings
[15:05] <babble> and load that installed-packages.txt file which is in /home/dexter on the big partition.
[15:08] <dexter__> wow, huge set of files to be added, but "Could not apply changes! Fix broken packages first."
[15:08] <babble> in synaptic, click on status
[15:09] <babble> look in broken and tell me what's broken
[15:09] <dexter__> done, broken dependencies?
[15:09] <dexter__> ok
[15:10] <dexter__> libvlc5 and libvlccore-dev.. unmark them?
[15:10] <babble> just those two?
[15:11] <dexter__> yes
[15:11] <dexter__> vlc project it seems
[15:11] <babble> go ahead and unmark those and then do apply
[15:11] <babble> yes, you can install newer vlc from the vlc ppa
[15:11] <babble> but we'll get to that later.
[15:11] <babble> unmark the broken packages and do apply
[15:11] <dexter__> installing 14GB of data
[15:13] <babble> relogging, brb.
[15:14] <dexter__> can anyone suggest an estimate of the downloading of 15GB of data through synaptic? 4 hours?
[15:26] <dexter__> 3.30 hours to go babble
[15:26] <babble> okay
[15:26] <dexter__> be back in an hour
[15:54] <boromir> Can 64-bit version of Xubuntu recognize dual core processors?
[16:04] <babble> I'm running on a dual core i3 in Xubuntu 11.10
[16:38] <dexter__> actually i BELIEVE I could have chosen xubuntu11.1064 bits to install in this small partition, isnt that rught?
[16:38] <babble> it depends on your cpu
[16:38] <babble> if you have a 64-bit cpu, then yes
[16:42] <dexter__> babble, can I now (still downloading things) use ff from my old partition?
[16:42] <babble> it won't work
[16:42] <dexter__> ok
[16:42] <babble> it'll be looking for it's shared files and all related stuff on root
[16:42] <babble> which is over on the other partition still.
[17:21] <dexter__> 2 hours now...
[17:39] <Alazare619> anyone here have experience with getting hdmi audio to work? I cant seem to get my hda nvidia to output soundin 10.04
[17:54] <dexter__> 30 minutes to go...
[18:04] <ficarra1002> Okay, I guess this question would be better off in #ubuntu, but it has a constant flood of chat
[18:04] <ficarra1002> And I'm using xubuntu, so yeah
[18:05] <ficarra1002> I'm having trouble finding a driver for my wireless card, so I used 'windows wireless drivers'
[18:07] <ficarra1002> And follow the proper instructions for that. And yet, it says device not ready, firmware missing
[18:14] <ficarra1002> Nope?
[18:14] <BufferOverflow> There was no question.
[18:15] <BufferOverflow> Also, you have checked "additional drivers" or "jockey", right?
[18:15] <ficarra1002> Well, my general question, is any suggestions? Know how to fix this?
[18:16] <ficarra1002> Additional drivers got nothing
[18:16] <ficarra1002> What's jockey?
[18:22] <BufferOverflow> That's the actual progrma name.
[18:23] <ficarra1002> Ah
[18:23] <ficarra1002> It returned nothing
[18:24] <ficarra1002> How would I find drivers for my card, when the card has the most generic name ever?
[18:24] <ficarra1002> The only way I found it on my windows install, was that the driver was on the dell support page for my computer.
[18:25] <BufferOverflow> Looking at the model number, and finding the chipset.
[18:27] <mongy> ficarra1002: lspci | grep Network
[18:28] <ficarra1002> ...
[18:28] <ficarra1002> I love you
[18:30] <ficarra1002> Windows device manager gave me "broadcom 802.11 controller." So did the download page on dell's site. That actually gave me everything.
[18:46] <dexter__> ia bable going to be back?
[18:46] <dexter__> is*
[18:50] <dexter__> hi babble
[18:50] <mongy> ficarra1002: so what is the complete string
[18:50] <babble> hi dexter__
[18:50] <babble> still installing?
[18:50] <dexter__> Im now donwloading stuff from synaptic, but Im afraid I many need to enlagge the partition... only 5GB free now...
[18:50] <babble> we can do that, but let it install
[18:51] <babble> it will fail gracefully if it runs out of space, and we'll deal with enlarging your partition if it does.
[18:51] <dexter__> ok
[18:52] <dexter__> I now realize I have lots of "stupid" installations: I dont need all kde language packages, nor do I need all firefox locales to read text in alphabets other than latin... do I?
[18:53] <babble> you might
[18:53] <babble> I don't use any non-latin language support, so I'm not certain.
[18:54] <dexter__> and gnome language packages? I can get rid of those now that im using xfce, cant I?
[18:54] <babble> it depends on what Gnome services you may have been running previously.
[18:55] <babble> (I use Gnome services for multimedia keys, among other things.)
[18:55] <babble> in any case, you're fretting over space, and you don't need to
[18:55] <babble> we'll enlarge your system partition as necessary
[18:55] <dexter__> ok
[18:55] <babble> (we're also not going to KEEP the broken system on the large partition)
[18:58] <GridCube> dexter__,
[18:58] <dexter__> GridCube,
[18:58] <GridCube> you where here yesterday with another name?
[18:58] <dexter__> yes
[18:59] <GridCube> please use the same nick all the time
[18:59] <dexter__> as soon as I start using xchat with the old partition configuration Ill switch to the name for the freenode network,
[18:59] <dexter__> there is going to be another change
[19:00] <GridCube> dexter__, use /nick
[19:00] <GridCube> /nick choosednickname
[19:00] <babble> if you'll let me take you through this a step at a time instead of blindly rushing ahead, when this is done, your computer will feel exactly like it did before.
[19:01] <dexter__> babble, I was only informing GridCube
[19:01] <GridCube> dexter__, please do as babble said
[19:01] <babble> when you have a working system installed and done, we'll nuke the broken system on the old partition and then set up your /home to mount automatically.
[19:01] <GridCube> dexter__, he knows
[19:13] <babble>  /unignore SuperMe
[19:13] <babble> blargh
[19:18] <Guest77128> OK, what the hell
[19:18] <ficarra> Ndiswrapper says installed, detected
[19:19] <dexter__> babble, free space in small partition 0 bytes, but synaptic keeps installing, no error message showed
[19:19] <ficarra> Yet, my connections still says 'devices not ready (firmware missing) '
[19:20] <ficarra> I know i had it work on this laptop a few years ago
[19:42] <ubuntu_> babble> booted from usb stick
[19:42] <ubuntu_> now> gparted and resize
[19:42] <ubuntu_> rite_
[20:39] <ubuntu_> is babble in_
[20:39] <ubuntu_> hi babble its now checkin FS for errors
[21:42] <earspliT> lol funny joke
[21:42] <earspliT> rebasing to debian
[21:42] <earspliT> lol happy april fools
[22:19] <miarf> hi, i've run into a minor annoyance in xubuntu 11.10. whenever I open the settings manager, it opens in the botton right corner of the screen
[22:19] <miarf> any idea how to make it open in the center of the screen?
[22:19] <mongy> miarf: devilspie or if using compiz using ccsm
[22:21] <miarf> thanks, i'll look into it
[22:21] <miarf> btw, does the window open down there for others as well, or have I messed something up?
[22:22] <drudogg> i use xubuntu 10.04 and it opens in the bottom left... fyi
[22:23] <miarf> i see, thanks
[22:23] <drudogg> too minor for me to care much, but would be nice if it opened center as you describe.
[22:24] <miarf> actually there seems to be a kind of an intelligent positioning going on
[22:24] <miarf> if I have something else open in the corner, it'll open somewhere else
[22:26] <mongy> that's the idea.
[22:26] <drudogg> you're probably right... it seems to me each window opens in some sort of default location... so there has to be a way to change it.
[22:26] <mongy> wherever has the most screen space
[22:27] <mongy> window manager tweaks has the option.
[22:27] <drudogg> what? intelligence in an OS??  OMG how I am NOT missing Windows...
[22:28] <mongy> window management tweaks, placement.
[22:28] <mongy> raise the slider
[22:28] <miarf> yeah, setting it to the far right works
[22:28] <miarf> thanks for the advice
[22:28] <mongy> I use compiz so I just set what window to where and how big
[22:29] <nabukadnezar43> hi, is there a way to add a user to open serial ports?
[22:29] <miarf> also, any idea what would be the best way to have a roguelike game (that runs in the terminal) have a larger font than the other terminal windows?
[22:29] <nabukadnezar43> currently i need to be root to open a port like ttyUSB0
[22:29] <miarf> adom feels funky with a small font, and irc looks crazy with a large font :)
[23:34] <Alazare619> ok im having an issue with hdmi audio output
[23:34] <Alazare619> i have a mcp67 chipset on my motherboard thats nforce 630a i have hdmi out i cna get video no problem i currently have the propeitary driver installed the newest from there site (nvidia)
[23:35] <Alazare619> any ideas what I get no sound?
[23:38] <GridCube>  Alazare619 try to configure it with pavucontrol
[23:38] <Alazare619> pavucontrol?
[23:40] <Alazare619> GridCube: ??
[23:40] <GridCube> yes
[23:40] <Alazare619> what is pavucontrol?
[23:40] <GridCube> a sound configuration tool
[23:41] <GridCube> if you dont have install it with sudo apt-get install pavucontrol
[23:41] <Alazare619> doing that now however i dont have pulseaudio
[23:41] <Alazare619> i run alsa
[23:41] <Alazare619> is that going to cause problems?
[23:41] <GridCube> Alazare619, xubuntu works better with pavucontrol
[23:42] <GridCube> thats why it will come as default with 12.04