/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/04/02/#kubuntu.txt

OvermindDL1So why might pulseaudio be randomly dying, it instantly restarts itself but anything using audio needs to be restarted to use the new pulseaudio process.  Using 11.1000:18
OvermindDL1It does this about once an hour while listening to something00:20
DaskreechRiddell: The Kubuntu factoid?01:27
Daskreechexcognac: Do you have a dmesg log ?01:31
DaskreechRiddell: What would need improvement?01:31
ronnocHmm I wonder why I can not change the icon for an Activity? :/01:42
DaskreechWhat KDE version?>01:43
excognaclemme check01:44
DaskreechI recall there being a bug for that for one of the releases01:44
excognacDaskreech: I only have txt file01:46
excognacDaskreech: I only have txt file named dmsg log, thereare also dmsg.1.gz.. up to 401:48
Daskreechexcognac: Those are the files to check01:56
ronnocAhhhh my Activities Icon issue seems to be Bug 29572102:47
ubottuLaunchpad bug 295721 in OpenERP "openobject-client: calendar widget: incompatible with lib hippo-canvas-0.3.0 " [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29572102:47
obelusI've just installed ssh-askpass, how should I make it load my keys on logon?03:12
DaskreechWhy did you install ssh-aspass?03:12
obelusSo that I don't have to enter the passphrase for my keys each time I connect to an SSH server - searching for an SSH agent for Kubuntu, that's what I turned up.03:13
Daskreechobelus: Read the manual for it?03:22
Daskreechhttp://www.debian.org/devel/passwordlessssh03:22
obelusDaskreech: Yes, I understand that I can implement it in .xsession - I was wondering if there was a way that KDE already allows for without doing that.03:27
DaskreechYou mean a GUI program?03:37
obelusYes, what I'd rather if possible is something similiar to Pageant from the PuTTY package for Windows, but where the keys are added automatically from a directory on startup.03:38
Daskreechyou can do that with KDE wallet I think03:40
Daskreechhttp://www.pontohonk.de/kde/ssh.html03:42
Daskreechfrogonwheels: How?04:00
obelusDaskreech: Sorry, didn't see your message until a minute ago. That link looks promising, I've downloaded the program for it, but can't compile it due to missing header files - do you know the name of the package for the KDE headers?04:44
Daskreechkwallet?04:58
bas_hallo04:59
obelusDaskreech: don't worry - I found the files, they were already installed as part of libqt4-dev, they just weren't in the include path.04:59
obelusJust trying to figure out some other errors in the compile now04:59
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Guest3265а05:25
DaskreechBye Guest05:44
obelusSigh. My plasma desktop seems somewhat broken05:58
Daskreechobelus: somewhat?05:58
obelusYeah. Basically it works for a few seconds on login, then breaks.05:59
obelusBe right back - going to see if I've fixed it.06:00
obelusSeems to not have broken this time. I think I should file a bug about that - I believe it was because I had a non-executable file in .kde/Autostart06:06
Daskreechha :)06:13
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el_ateoi dont speak english i need help06:33
el_ateoi need conet to irc hispano06:33
el_ateosome body help me06:34
obelusel_ateo: try /join #kubuntu-es or /join #ubuntu-es06:45
Daskreechel_ateo_: What do you need?06:46
Daskreechor el_ateo whichever06:46
el_ateo_conectame to irc hispano Daskreech06:46
obelusI *think* that means the spanish IRC channel. That's why I mentioned #ubuntu-es and #kubuntu-es.06:47
el_ateo_but is not the same server06:48
Daskreech!es | el_ateo_06:49
ubottuel_ateo_: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.06:49
Daskreechel_ateo_: http://www.irc-hispano.es/webchat06:50
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el_ateo#IRC-Hispano06:53
el_ateoi dont now06:54
el_ateoplease help me06:54
Daskreechel_ateo_: what are you using?06:54
DaskreechQuassel ?06:54
el_ateoyes06:55
Daskreechobelus: Do you have quassel?06:57
obelusDaskreech: No. I use KVIrc.06:58
el_ateoestoy en el horno06:59
Daskreechel_ateo_: ¿Se puede escribir /join #kubuntu-es ?06:59
el_ateoyes but disapear the channel06:59
el_ateoi dont now way06:59
el_ateoi will try07:00
Daskreechhmm07:00
el_ateosix users jajajaja07:01
el_ateono body07:01
Daskreechha07:02
Daskreechok07:02
Daskreechel_ateo_: Can you click on http://www.irc-hispano.es/webchat ?07:03
el_ateodont matter i like english, teach me07:03
DaskreechI would :)07:03
el_ateoyes but i dont see the comands07:03
Daskreechbut I can't remember how to use Quassel07:03
DaskreechAh you are joined on the website?07:04
el_ateono07:04
el_ateoi use the program07:04
Daskreechoh :(07:04
Daskreechok07:04
Daskreechwhich commands are you looking for?07:04
DaskreechOH! I know07:04
Daskreechel_ateo_: type /join #quassel07:04
el_ateoi am in quassel07:05
DaskreechAsk them how to add a server07:05
Daskreechthat's what you want to do07:05
el_ateook but i dont know what is the server07:06
Daskreechel_ateo_: type /server irc.irc-hispano.org07:08
el_ateo_show nothing07:09
el_ateo_what the fuck!!!!!!07:10
el_ateo_shit07:12
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Tm_T!ohmy | el_ateo_07:16
ubottuel_ateo_: Please remember that all Ubuntu IRC channels share the same attitude of providing friendly and polite interaction with all users of all ages and cultures. Basically, this means no foul language and no abuse towards others.07:16
el_ateo_ok ubottu dont pist off07:18
el_ateo_i dont speak english07:18
el_ateo_help me07:19
DaskreechTm_T: Where is the server listing for quassel?07:20
Daskreechel_ateo_: Do you have a list of the rooms you are in?07:21
Tm_TI don't use quassel, sorry07:21
Daskreechyou said you are in #quassel and #kubuntu-es07:21
el_ateo_yes but i like argentina07:21
el_ateo_that is the channel i wont07:22
el_ateo_i from argentina07:22
el_ateo_hello asfyxia07:23
el_ateo_i'm the atheist :)07:24
el_ateo_haha07:24
Daskreechel_ateo_: Umm try /server irc.irc-hispano.org/#argentina07:24
el_ateo_ok07:24
el_ateo_no, nothing hapends07:25
el_ateo_fakin god07:26
el_ateo_sorry07:26
el_ateo_ok dont matter07:28
el_ateo_i wont to learn english07:28
Daskreechel_ateo_: You don't see irc.irc-hispano.org in the sidepanel ?07:30
el_ateo_no Daskreech07:31
el_ateo_tolk me abaut malvinas...07:31
el_ateo_about*07:32
el_ateo_what do you thing?07:32
el_ateo_Daskreech:07:33
DaskreechMalvina?07:34
el_ateo_malvinas islands07:34
el_ateo_are british or argentine?07:35
Tm_Tel_ateo_: this is a channel for Kubuntu support, not general chat07:35
DaskreechAh :)07:35
el_ateo_ok but this es special case Tm_T07:36
Tm_Tno07:36
DaskreechTm_T: Trying to get el_ateo_ on the irc.irc-hispano.org server07:36
el_ateo_i use ubuntu07:36
el_ateo_dont be sad07:36
Daskreechel_ateo_: and you use Quassel?07:36
el_ateo_yes yes yes07:36
el_ateo_i drunk or drikns werever07:38
el_ateo_is just this moment07:38
el_ateo_ubuntu is free and malvinas?07:39
Daskreechel_ateo_: what do you use for a web browser?07:39
DaskreechFirefox/07:39
Daskreech?07:39
el_ateo_firefox and chrome07:39
el_ateo_i hate micrisoft07:40
el_ateo_i love  google07:40
Daskreech:-) Good for you07:40
el_ateo_yes07:40
el_ateo_i am hapy07:41
Daskreechcan you click on http://www.irc-hispano.es/webchat ?07:41
el_ateo_google is the best07:41
Daskreechyou should be able to join the server from that Webpage07:41
el_ateo_ok but malvinas?07:43
el_ateo_:)07:43
el_ateo_dont pist off07:43
el_ateo_you guys are goos friends07:43
DaskreechThey are free if they want to be07:44
el_ateo_good*07:44
DaskreechI don't know if there is a #malvinas channel there :)07:44
el_ateo_me nider07:44
el_ateo_i ask you for you07:44
el_ateo_what is your opinion07:45
DaskreechI have not thought about it07:45
el_ateo_what is thought?????07:46
Daskreechthink07:48
el_ateo_i dont know what is the words07:48
el_ateo_sorry07:48
el_ateo_i dont speak english07:49
asfyxiato think = pensar07:49
el_ateo_i speak english more or lest07:49
el_ateo_yes i know07:49
el_ateo_por que no me hablas en español entonces?????07:50
DaskreechSi think =pensar07:51
Daskreechthought pensamiento07:51
el_ateo_ah ok i under stend now07:52
el_ateo_but ypu shuld07:52
el_ateo_you*07:52
Daskreech:-) but not tonight07:53
el_ateo_malvinas is the unic place colonial in the world07:53
el_ateo_ok07:53
DaskreechIt is07:53
el_ateo_tolk obout other thing07:53
el_ateo_like pelaontologist07:54
el_ateo_paleontologist07:54
el_ateo_like jurassic park07:54
el_ateo_i am a paleoartist07:54
el_ateo_i work in barreales lake in neuquen provins07:55
Tm_Tel_ateo_: please stick in topic07:55
el_ateo_Tm_T: please i promese i dont speak to malvinas07:56
el_ateo_ok?07:56
el_ateo_Tm_T:  do you like paleartists?07:57
Tm_Tel_ateo_: the channel topic here is kubuntu support07:57
el_ateo_reconstruccion of the dinosaurs07:57
el_ateo_ok but is burried this theme07:58
el_ateo_so, paleartist is intresting07:58
Tm_Tel_ateo_: last time, stick in channel topic, please07:59
el_ateo_ohhh please dont be sad07:59
Tm_Tplease adhere my request (:07:59
el_ateo_no body tolk about ubuntu right now08:00
Tm_Tdoesn't matter08:00
el_ateo_please08:00
lordievaderGood Morning08:00
Tm_Tmorning lordievader08:00
lordievaderHow is everyone?08:01
el_ateo_do you like metallica Tm_T?????????08:01
el_ateo_or ramones?????08:02
Tm_Tel_ateo_: I like keeping this channel on Kubuntu support08:02
el_ateo_punk for ever08:02
lordievaderjoin #kubuntu-offtopic, for offtopic stuff.08:02
el_ateo_ok tell me how i join to irc hispoano so08:03
el_ateo_hispano*08:03
lordievaderyou mean the command /join #kubuntu-offtopic?08:03
Tm_Tel_ateo_: it's been told you multiple times08:03
el_ateo_no, irc hispano08:04
lordievader!language08:04
ubottuPlease watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.08:04
el_ateo_but nothink works08:04
lordievader!languages08:04
Tm_Tel_ateo_: 1041.20 < Daskreech> can you click on http://www.irc-hispano.es/webchat08:04
lordievaderIt seems there is your answer.08:05
el_ateo_if nothinf works so i speak to the other thing08:05
Tm_Tel_ateo_: no08:05
el_ateo_dont be sad Tm_T08:05
el_ateo_i dont speak englis and i dont know to what speak to08:06
el_ateo_i am amateur08:06
Tm_Tyou don't need to speak anything if you don't have Kubuntu support topic to discuss08:06
el_ateo_and you wont to kill me08:07
el_ateo_i am a good persons08:07
Tm_T!guidelines > el_ateo_08:07
ubottuel_ateo_, please see my private message08:07
el_ateo_i so Tm_T08:08
el_ateo_pero eres muy cruel Tm_T08:09
el_ateo_you so crul08:09
bbeckI believe I heard that this upcoming release of Kubuntu was the last release that was to be supported financially by canonical.  Is there anywhere one can read what that means?  e.g. will we continue to report bugs the same way, will kubuntu.com still exist, etc.08:20
lordievaderReally? Where have you read that08:21
lordievader?08:21
Daskreechbbeck: No other way around08:21
Daskreechlast release that Canonical would take financial support for08:22
bbeckDaskreech: I don't understand.  Have I misunderstood?08:23
DaskreechIf you were not giving money to Canonical then everything else works the same08:23
yofelbbeck: http://apachelog.wordpress.com/2012/02/07/how-kubuntu-did-not-change/08:24
Daskreechbbeck: ^^^08:24
bbeckyofel: thank you, that link was very helpful.08:28
Daskreech:-)08:28
lordievaderyofel, Thank you :)08:29
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BluesKajHiyas all11:44
phloogCheers! is there a way to find out how much data was read/written through an FD just by looking at /proc? I can see what FDs a process has, and I can see the IO stats of that process, but is there a way to see what file/socket/whatever had what share of IO?12:34
Peace-phloog: you mean this ? http://wstaw.org/m/2012/04/02/plasma-desktopYd2143.png12:36
phloogPeace-: this is what /proc/<PID>/io gives you12:37
phloogthat's no problem. The problem is, I need to know how this IO is spread over the FDs this process has opened12:37
phloogI guess it's not possible.12:37
Peace-dunno but this is not kubuntu issue12:37
phloogrighto12:37
Peace-#linux12:37
Peace-or bash12:38
Peace-#bash12:38
Peace-maybe you can find someone of expert12:38
phloogyeah, thx12:39
excognacjust downloaded libreoffice 3.5,  where can i find the proper kde integration package for it?13:26
BluesKajexcognac,  no need to DL , just install from the packagemanager or the konsole. It's in the repos.13:36
designbybeckGoodmorning all! I'm trying to connect to our Windows Server from Kubuntu, I use to do it from Ubuntu, but I'm not understanding how to put in the serve info in the Network FOlder Box13:36
designbybeckIt has Name, Server, Folder, I'm not sure what format and what info here?13:36
designbybeckany ideas?13:36
BluesKajdesignbybeck,  are you using the "add network folder" wizard13:37
BluesKaj?13:37
designbybeckyes BluesKaj13:38
BluesKajok choose microsoft network drive13:39
designbybeckGot that13:39
BluesKajthen your linux username13:39
designbybeckin the "Name" filed BluesKaj?13:40
BluesKajyes , then IP address of the windows server13:40
designbybeckBluesKaj:  this is the box i'm on http://www.pasteall.org/pic/2947513:41
BluesKajin the server box, that is13:41
designbybeckwhy would I put in my linux username there BluesKaj?13:42
BluesKajoops sorry I was thinking ssh , not MS ...ok whatever the your username is on th windows server13:43
designbybecki might be on to something13:44
BluesKajthen the shared folder(s) below13:44
designbybeckit popped up my network username and password13:45
designbybecknow it is thinking13:45
BluesKajmakes sense13:45
BluesKajthat means it's scanning for shared folders with your permissions13:46
designbybeckeverything seems right, but it isn't connecting13:47
designbybeckhmmm not connecting13:48
BluesKajdesignbybeck,  ok there could be a problem with kwallet13:48
BluesKajdisable kwallet for the time being . kwalletmanager in the krunner , disable13:49
designbybeckhmmm13:49
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designbybeckHow do I do that BluesKaj?13:49
BluesKajyeah , it gave me probs , alt+f2 , type kwalletmanager, settings , disable13:51
designbybeckUnder KDE Wallet Manager  > Settings13:52
designbybeckI don't have disable13:52
designbybeckUnder Confige I have a check by Enable the KDE Wallet subsystem13:52
designbybeckis that it?13:52
BluesKajjust type kwalletmanager, then choose settings , then disable kwallet subsystem13:52
BluesKajkwallet is a pita to me13:54
BluesKajbrb13:56
designbybeckBluesKaj: might I have an enabled firewall on my system blocking it?13:59
BluesKajdesignbybeck,  what kind of connection to your LAN ...is this at your workplace ?14:01
designbybeckI'm on wireless right now14:01
designbybeckwhich i've connected to in the past from14:01
BluesKajthru a router ?14:01
kroetomantest14:05
designbybeck_BluesKaj:  I tried connecting to smb with a mac and it will not let me either14:24
designbybeck_so something is going on with that windows share14:24
BluesKajdesignbybeck_,  does the windows share show up in the workgroup in dolphin>places>network ?14:30
designbybeck_there are some other computesr in the building that I can see that are windows machines14:30
BluesKajthen the windows share that want isn't shared to your username it seems , unless of course you were able to access it previously14:32
BluesKajI'm not real familiar with WANs , they behave differently than a small home network LAN like I use14:33
designbybeck_Grrrr They are sending a tech over!14:36
BluesKajare they linux savvy?14:37
designbybeck_Heck no!14:38
BluesKajdesignbybeck_,  you could ask action-parsnip in #ubuntu if he's there , he's a wiz at networking14:38
designbybeck_ah14:38
BluesKajits not that much different than kubuntu14:39
BluesKajdesignbybeck_,  is your connection timing out or .... ?14:48
designbybeck_not sure BluesKaj just seems to try that useranme and apssword then just comes back to the box14:52
BluesKajdesignbybeck_,  can ping the ip in the konsole14:54
BluesKaj?14:54
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lordievaderHello15:03
BluesKajhey15:05
lordievaderBluesKaj, How are you?15:05
designbybeckBluesKaj: I was able to connect the way I use to in a Ubuntu machine15:08
designbybeckbut Kubuntu isn't passing the info correctly15:08
BluesKajfine, lordievader , and you ?15:08
lordievaderBluesKaj, I'm doing just fine15:08
BluesKajdesignbybeck,  using the same info obviously15:08
designbybeckcorrect15:09
lordievaderWhat is the problem?15:09
designbybecksomething in KDE/Kubuntu isn't working correctly15:09
designbybeckTrying to connect to a Windows Share lordievader15:09
DaskreechRiddell: ping15:09
designbybeckit is working on a mac and on Ubuntu15:09
BluesKajweird how kde messes up networking15:09
designbybeckbut not Kubuntu15:09
designbybeckin Dolphin, if i just put in smb://servename/15:09
lordievaderDoes it happen do do with samba?15:10
designbybeckit prompts for usernam/pass15:10
designbybeckbut doesn't take it15:10
designbybeckon the ubuntu machine, i type in the same info and it works15:10
designbybeckdon't know about samba, because it is workgin on Mac and Ubuntu....just not in Kubuntu/Dolphin15:10
Daskreechdesignbybeck: What are you trying to do?15:11
Peace-designbybeck: you need to install samba first15:12
lordievaderIt does seem you are using samba though: If the dolphin thing really isn't working you could manually mount them. "sudo mount -t cifs //server/dir -o username=<USERNAME>,password=<PASSWORD> /mount/dir/15:12
designbybeckDaskreech: Peace- I am trying to connect to a Windows Share on our campus network15:12
Peace-designbybeck: sudo apt-get install samba15:13
designbybeckI have samba installed15:13
Daskreechdesignbybeck: Ah. can you connect by command line?15:13
designbybecki can do a smbtree and see stuff15:13
BluesKajPeace-,  he doesn't need samba , he already has smb15:13
designbybeckjust hte pcs in this building15:13
Peace-smb is samba15:13
designbybecknot the server on the domain i'm trying to connect to15:13
BluesKajyes , but no need for the gui15:13
designbybecki can connect with a Mac and Ubuntu.... just not Kubuntu15:13
designbybeckI'll try to manually do it lordievader15:13
DaskreechStrange that it wouldn't work with Dolphin15:14
Peace-designbybeck: what do you do on ubuntu ?15:14
Riddellhi Daskreech15:15
designbybeckPeace-: IN Nautilas I just go to the location bar and type 'smb://servername/dir'15:16
Peace-designbybeck: open konsole15:16
designbybeckpress enter and it gives me username and password for the windows share, and i type in my cred and it works15:16
Peace-designbybeck: start dolphin form konsole15:16
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designbybeckok Peace- i have it open now15:17
Peace-designbybeck:  so go where you have to go i mean 'smb://servername/dir'15:17
Peace-designbybeck: and see if konsole says something15:17
designbybeckPeace-:  here is the output http://www.pasteall.org/3061515:18
Sandman3102my ubuntu box is very slow today15:18
Sandman3102any clue what to do?15:18
Peace-designbybeck: after you have put 'smb://servername/dir' ?15:19
Peace-designbybeck: give me the smb/stuff15:20
Peace-i will try here from my linux box15:20
designbybeckyes15:20
Peace-designbybeck: the location..?15:21
kevin_takeshiGot a problem15:27
kevin_takeshiMy friend had a dual boot kubuntu 10.04 and windows 715:27
kevin_takeshihe deleted the kubuntu partition and the system is not booting into windows 715:28
kevin_takeshihow to revert to windows bootloader ??15:28
lordievaderkevin_takeshi, Get a windows cd, boot to it and let it restore the bootloader.15:28
kevin_takeshiwindows cd is not available as of now15:29
designbybeckSo, get this everyone! I installed nautilus.... tried the same thing, and it worked15:29
designbybeckSo it is Dolphin not working with SMB and/or passing the correct username/password/domain over15:29
lordievaderkevin_takeshi, Then it is going to be very difficult. Search the internet, I guess that is a good idea.15:29
lordievaderdesignbybeck, Did the manual mount work?15:30
designbybeckit didn't seem to lordievader15:30
kevin_takeshiIs it possbile to install grub through ubuntu live session without installing ubuntu ??15:30
BluesKajdesignbybeck,  is this windows server on the internet somewhere or on your campus network ?15:30
designbybecklocal campus BluesKaj15:31
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lordievaderdesignbybeck, Really? What errors did it give?15:31
lordievaderkevin_takeshi, Perhaps, don't really know, I have nuked a lot of bootloaders but the windows cd always fixed it...15:31
Peace-designbybeck: post a screenshot of dolphin15:31
designbybecksomething like this lordievader http://www.pasteall.org/3061615:32
designbybeckPeace-:  http://www.pasteall.org/pic/2947715:33
lordievaderdesignbybeck, the folder /mount/ does exist?15:34
designbybeckwhether I put in username or username@domain it doesn't go15:34
designbybeckno lordievader i tried again with /mnt but that didn't seem to do anything either15:34
lordievaderdesignbybeck, ah i see an error, in the command between the username and the password needs to be a comma (,) not a space.15:35
Peace-designbybeck: ok go on logs run this : ksystemlog15:35
Peace-there is a filter bar15:36
BluesKajdolphin connects fine here with smb://nameofserver15:36
designbybeckok Peace-15:36
designbybeckHmmm why you gotta be cool like that BluesKaj15:37
designbybeckwhat am I looking for Peace- ?15:37
Peace-designbybeck: open dolphin try to connect and see the last message on ksystemlog15:37
BluesKajdesignbybeck,  , i'm not on a campus ...that's my wife's windows pc :)15:37
Peace-BluesKaj: :P15:37
BluesKajPeace-,  I think my other linuxbox is kaput :(15:38
lordievaderdesignbybeck, so the para meters should be: -o username=****,password=*****15:39
designbybeckok lordievader15:39
Peace-BluesKaj: :D15:40
designbybeckdoes a DHCPREQUEST15:40
designbybeck5 times15:40
Peace-paste15:41
designbybeckshows where it is going and coming from and  a port number15:41
designbybecklordievader: here is the output from trying to do it cli http://www.pasteall.org/3061715:44
lordievaderThis might explain why dolphin fails to mount it, but how to fix it is beyond me... sorry15:49
lordievaderHmm, here someone says that installing smbfs worked: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=170505215:49
DaskreechRiddell: What changes need to be made to the !ku factoid ?15:56
Daskreech!brub15:57
Daskreech!grub15:57
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)15:57
Daskreech!grub215:57
designbybeckthanks lordievader15:58
Daskreechlordievader: File a bug with the output15:59
lordievaderDaskreech, ? what aree you talking about?16:04
lordievaderare*16:05
Daskreechlordievader: You were saying that you are not sure how to fix the passing of smb creds from dolphin16:08
DaskreechFile a bug against dolphin with the output. In a perfect scenario you shouldn't have to figure out that something needs fixing at all16:09
lordievaderDaskreech, That was an answer to designbybeck....16:09
Daskreechlordievader: I'm aware.16:10
lordievaderThen shouldn't designbybeck be the one to file it?16:10
lordievaderAnyhow, gotta go.16:11
Daskreechlordievader: you may provide more insight. If designbyback agrees you can both file16:11
DaskreechOr not :-(16:11
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arshinatorhi canyone tell me how to use grub216:24
DarthFrog!grub2 | arshinator16:25
ubottuarshinator: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)16:25
arshinatorubottu: i lost grub2 after installing windows16:26
ubottuarshinator: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)16:26
arshinatorDarthFrog: yes i had kubuntu installed and then i created a partition and installed windows there...so i directly boot into windows, i want to restore grub and then update the grub so that it gives me option between windows and kubuntu16:27
DarthFrogarshinator: Follow the link the bot gave you.  In a nutshell, you'll boot from a LiveCD, mount your system and chroot into that system, then restore grub.16:27
DarthFrogIf it was Win7 you installed, you could use EasyBCD there to set up a multi-boot system.16:29
arshinatoryes it was win 716:29
arshinatorDarthFrog: but i want to do it myself, and the link the bot gave me just shows how to restore grub not grub216:30
DarthFrogNo, it's for grub2.16:31
DarthFrogGrub1 hasn't been used for years.16:31
arshinatorDarthFrog : i am not able to recognize the partition on which i installed kubuntu..but i remember the size of that partition. Can u help me in finding it16:35
ct529it is possible to install fring on ubuntu? I do not seem to be able to find appropriate information (that is information that actually works)16:41
DarthFrogarshinator: That's unfortunate.16:42
DarthFrogarshinator: When booted into the LiveCD, use the command "fdisk -l" to list all partitions.16:44
Daskreechct529: Cute available on all flavours of Linux that don't have a desktop16:44
DarthFrogYou need root privileges to run fdisk, though.16:44
ct529Daskreech: that do not have a desktop?16:44
arshinatorDarthFrog: its not showing anything..it just gives me the command prompt again16:45
Daskreechct529: Android, meebo, mer, ios16:45
ct529Daskreech: but then you can just install fring!16:46
DarthFrogarshinator:  sudo fdisk -l16:46
5EXAAMSPAanyone here using / testing 12.04 beta 2 ?16:47
Daskreech!find fring16:47
ubottuFile fring found in el-get, emacs23-common, emacs23-el, festival, grass, grass-doc, hugin-data, lam4-dev, libestools2.1-dev, mlton-doc (and 5 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=fring&mode=&suite=oneiric&arch=any16:47
ct529Daskreech: yes I did also searcher through search engines and so on ....16:48
bazhang5EXAAMSPA, #ubuntu+1 for that please16:48
5EXAAMSPA5EXAAMSPA: thx!16:48
5EXAAMSPAis it just ubuntu+1 or is there a seperate kubuntu+!?16:49
Daskreechct529: Maybe it doesn't exist?16:49
Daskreech5EXAAMSPA: Just the one +116:49
Daskreech5EXAAMSPA: Few enough people test it without splitting that group up16:50
ct529Daskreech: I was wondering ....16:50
5EXAAMSPADaskreech: cool thanks16:50
BluesKaj5EXAAMSPA,  I'm using 12.04 beta and so far so good16:51
arshinatorDarthFrog: i am accessing it through a live usb...and when i do "sudo grub-install  /dev/sda1/" i get this error "/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /boot/grub (is /dev mounted?).16:51
arshinator"16:51
ct529good, have a nice evening,bye!16:53
Daskreechct529: Bye!16:53
DarthFrogarshinator: Did you go though the full mounting procedure?  Did you bind mount /proc, /sys and /dev?  Did you chroot into the mounted system?  And you want to install GRUB on /dev/sda not the partition sda1.17:00
arshinatorDarthFrog: no such thing was written there....can u give me a link on all this procedures or could tell me hw to do it17:01
DarthFrog!grub2 | arshinator17:02
ubottuarshinator: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)17:02
DarthFrogarshinator: Hmm, I've not used the Boot Repair tool so I'm no help to you there.17:05
DarthFrogarshinator:  I've only done the chroot method.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2?action=show&redirect=GRUB2#Methods_of_Reinstalling17:05
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aguitelhow change the dimentions of the task bar ?17:53
BluesKajtask bar or panel?17:54
BluesKajthe taskbar size is determined by the number of icons in the panel , only the panel itself can be resized afaik , aguitel17:55
rorkYou could make multiple panels at one screen edge and use one of them as taskbar, thereby define the size17:58
aguitelBluesKaj, anyway to resize the panel ?18:22
lordievaderHello18:23
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classroomhalloooooooooooooooooo18:37
lordievaderclassroom, Hey18:37
classroomi heard kubuntu will stopped18:37
jussino18:37
jussionly that one person wont be paid to work on it anymore18:38
lordievaderhttp://apachelog.wordpress.com/2012/02/07/how-kubuntu-did-not-change/18:38
DarthFrogclassroom: Kubuntu will continue on as it did before.  The only thing that changes is that Canonical will no longer be providing official support for it.18:39
DarthFrogKubuntu is reverting to its original status as a community-supported version of Ubuntu.18:39
DarthFrogWhich, in a way, makes sense.  Kubuntu is for power users.  Ubuntu is for those who want their computer to be an appliance.18:40
DarthFrogThere is also a move afoot to rename Kubuntu, to remove the association with Ubuntu.18:41
DarthFrogAnd given that this move was initiated by the fellow who originated Kubuntu in the first place, it's likely to happen.18:42
lordievader018:43
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mostafahi18:54
mostafais there any one here?18:54
DarthFrogNobody but us chickens.18:55
DaskreechDarthFrog: Stop your fuss18:55
DarthFrogCluck!18:56
mostafahow can i install programs in kubuntu?19:00
DarthFrogUse the package manager, muon.19:00
DaskreechJontheEchidna: ping19:02
Daskreechmostafa: alt+F2 -> muon19:02
lordievadermostafa, Or if you feel confident you can use the terminal, but if you are a beginner Muon is an easier choice.19:02
mostafahow can i download programs for kubuntu19:03
DarthFrogMuon will do it all for you.19:03
lordievadermostafa, As Daskreech said, use Muon.19:04
mostafai press Alt+f2 and type Muon but nothing happen19:07
lordievadermostafa, Check the menu -> Applications -> System -> Package manager19:11
mostafado you mean kpackagekit19:13
lordievaderEuhmm no... I either mean the Software Center, or the Muon package manager. Software center is muon too btw/19:15
lordievaderbrb19:15
lordievaderback19:16
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aladdsIs there a guide for KDE 3 users who have no idea how KDE 4 is *supposed* to work anywhere?20:06
Daskreechaladds: userbase.kde.org ?20:07
Daskreechaladds: I hope you've gotten past the login section at least20:07
aladdshah, yeah of course20:07
aladdsI just feel that the way I'm used to using a desktop environment is clashing with how KDE 4 should work20:07
Daskreechaladds: how do you feel a desktop environment should work?20:08
aladdsWell, for instance, kickoff seems to want me to type applications names like the start menu on windows/spotlight on the mac, but the 'super' key doesn't open it (nor should it, necessarily) so clicking the menu with the mouse, then moving back to the keyboard to type seems counter-intuitive20:10
Daskreechaladds: hmm I have alt+f1 as the shortcut to open it here20:12
Daskreechgranted I never use it since i have alt+F2 .....20:13
aladdsah yeah, that seems to work. I've only just discovered alt-F2 from the link you gave me20:13
Daskreech!!!20:13
Daskreechaladds: Then your idea of how a desktop environment should work was already wrong!20:14
aladdsthis is my point :-)20:14
aladdsindeed20:14
Daskreechaladds: alt+F2 is the uber key20:14
Daskreechaladds: for instance try alt+F2 -> 3*7=20:15
aladdsa bit like cmd-space on the mac20:15
Daskreechaladds: a bit like it ;)20:15
aladdsi just hit alt-space when I meant to do alt-F2… this is going to take some getting used to :S20:15
Daskreechexcept imo more useful20:15
Daskreechaladds: change it to alt_space then20:15
aladds:)20:16
DaskreechWe arent that rigid20:16
Daskreechand here comes the fun part :)20:16
aladdsI appreciate that, I just feel that I imagine changing it to alt-space will clash with something else20:17
Daskreechaladds: That's why this is fun :)20:17
aladdshah20:17
Daskreechaladds: alt+F2 -> global20:17
DaskreechThat will give the global keyboard shortcuts20:17
DaskreechThe ones that work without any context for applications etc20:18
DaskreechThere is a drop down at the top for the KDE Component that owns the shortcut20:18
Daskreech look for run command  or krunner in that drop down box20:18
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DaskreechWhen you find the alt+F2 you can click on it to change it to whatever you like20:19
DaskreechIf it conflicts with something else it will let you know what is conflicting and you can choose to keep this one and change the old one to something else or abandon this change20:19
Daskreech(Nothing conflicts so that's just for your information)20:19
aladdsoh cool20:20
Daskreechaladds: Isn't it?20:20
Daskreechaladds: For each individual KDE application you can go to Settings-> Shortcut settings to see what shortcuts that application has when it's in focus if  you are keyboard bound20:21
DaskreechI honestly almost never touch the mouse anymore20:21
DaskreechIt's actually behind my monitor so I have to reach around it to move it20:22
aladdshah20:23
aladdsi do hate the mouse, so I can see why20:23
Daskreechaladds: embrace your alt+f2 then20:25
aladds:)20:25
aladdsalt-space now :P20:25
Daskreechalt+space-> mouse20:25
Daskreechalt+space -> logout20:25
aladdshmm20:25
aladdsi know I could never get used to alt-f2, much like when apple changed the scrolling direction20:26
aladdsi felt that it being 'backwards' made more sense, and I liked that. But I use different computers all the time, and muscle memory caused me to get it wrong every_single_time20:27
aladds:P20:27
Daskreechaladds: change it to what your muscles work with20:30
aladdsi shall do :)20:30
Daskreechany other questions?20:30
aladdsyeah… was that a netsplit? :P20:31
DaskreechI hope so20:31
DaskreechPeople are fleeing! Run in the direction of the crowd20:31
aladdsnah, I don't think I have anything else to bother you with right now :)20:31
aladdsthanks for your help, though20:32
Daskreechaladds: Oh I should mention alt+space -> wp:kde20:32
aladdsI'll play around20:32
aladdsneat20:32
Daskreechyep20:32
Daskreechthere is gg: and ggi: and ggl: etc20:33
Daskreechddg: if that's your thing :)20:33
aladdsrdt?20:33
Daskreechwhat's rdt ?20:33
aladdsguessing how one might shorten reddit20:33
aladds:P20:33
aladdsalso, ddg doesn't seem to do anything20:34
Daskreechaladds: Oh hold on let me see if there is a reddit on you can turn on20:34
aladdsis there somewhere I can configure those for myself?20:35
Daskreechaladds: Yep. Open Konqueror and settings-> configure konqueror-> Web Browsing ->Web shortcuts20:36
DaskreechThen you just create a string that would place your phrase in the search string for the site and give it a shortcut name20:36
aladdsI'm assuming konqueror != rekonq?20:37
Daskreechput a checkmark beside it and you are two keystrokes way from searching your favourtie site20:37
Daskreechaladds: Konqueror != rekonq but Rekonq uses the settings from konqueror20:37
Daskreechso If you make a web shortcut in Konqueror then rekonq respects it20:37
Daskreechhooray shared code20:38
aladdsok, I don't seem to have konquerer installed20:38
Daskreechhuh. OK well I think you can set it up from in rekonq then20:39
DaskreechIt would be the web shortcuts20:40
aladdshmm, none of them seem to work… could this be because I set chrome to be my default browser?20:41
Daskreechaladds: are they checked? You can define them and then leave them disabled20:41
aladdsthey come up in the menu when I type things20:41
DaskreechNo I think that it would open the browser that can handle them regardless of the default20:41
aladdsi hit enter and nothing happens is all20:41
DaskreechI think >_>20:41
aladdschrome's probably broken it20:42
DaskreechI forget if chrome is my default handler or not20:42
Daskreechah shame I'll see if that runner can possibly be changed to hand over a generic URL to the default browser20:42
Daskreechthat might be helpful to firefox and links users20:43
Daskreechaladds: I'll have to test that to see what happens with various browsers set as default20:43
aladdswell chrome set itself, so it could have done it wrong20:44
Daskreechaladds: out of curiousity what happens when you type say www.yahoo.com into krunner ?20:44
aladdsnothing at al20:45
aladds*all20:45
Daskreechbleah and i find those remarkably useful shortcuts too20:45
aladdscould it be that the default web browser entry in default applications needs to have something like %d or %s or whatever to pass the url to the browser?20:46
Daskreechaladds: Yep that would be my guess20:46
Daskreechas I said I can play with it and try to suggest better handling of items. Though if chrome did setitself without the %u that would suck20:47
aladdsthat fixed it20:48
aladds%u20:48
aladdsand chrome did indeed set it without that20:48
aladdsoh20:49
aladdsnow it's opening everything twice20:49
aladdshmm20:49
ybitDaskreech: do you know how many bugs were fixed with the latest release?20:50
aladdsand removing the %u makes it work correctly...20:50
Daskreechybit: Sorry. What release?20:50
Daskreechaladds: ha ha :)20:50
aladdsthing is, can i make it repeat that20:50
aladdsright, i can20:52
aladdsbug report time :)20:52
ybitDaskreech: 11.0420:55
ybitapparently opensuse fixed 12k bugs for its last release, i'm just comparing20:55
ybiti'm assuming they are including all the bug fixes directly to kde software not specifically with the opensuse distro20:56
Daskreechaladds: :)21:01
aladdsThe bug is still there in chromium21:01
Daskreechybit: You would assume wrong :)21:01
aladdsassuming it's not a kde bug21:01
DaskreechI don't know that they have had 12k bugs fixed in KDE since lastrelease21:02
Daskreechthat would be cool though21:02
ybitso... where is this number coming from...21:02
Daskreechaladds: May want to check in #kubuntu-devel if you want an opinion of where to file it. bugs.kde.org against KDE or launchpad against chrome21:03
Daskreechybit: I would guess it's all the bugs in the packages they are shipping21:03
aladdscool cheers21:03
Daskreech It would be a little naive to try and localize bugs to KDE since KDE does not control all the bugs21:04
aladdsof course21:05
Daskreechaladds: That was aimed at ybit not you :)21:06
aladdsit sort of made sense to me too21:07
aladdsi assume kde is a huge project21:07
DaskreechPossibly the largest opensource project in existence21:07
DaskreechDepending on how you measure girth21:08
aladdsThat explains why it took longer to compile kde than it did to compile kernel & x11 combined when I once played with gentoo (never again :P)21:09
Daskreechha ha Well it does have more lines of code than either of those (I think more than them combined even)21:10
ronnocWhen installing KDE from the mini.iso, should I select kde-standard or kubuntu-desktop, or both?21:19
L3topDoes anyone know why rc5.d would be running scripts twice in a row?22:13
nconradsThere a known issue with the KDE Groupware Wizard missing support for Kolab servers in 11.10?22:17
mozilaHola22:18
mozilanecesito ayuda22:19
mozilaestoy intentando imprimir desde kubuntu hacia una impresora  de red de windows22:19
L3top!es22:19
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.22:19
mozilaGracias22:19
L3topde nada22:19
Daskreechronnoc: kubuntu-desktop if you want the Kubuntuized choices for KDE and kde-standard if you want .. .well a standard KDE22:21
DaskreechL3top: upstart dependencies?22:22
Daskreechnconrads: Not that I know of how are you invoking it?22:22
L3topty for a direction Daskreech. Where should I begin looking22:24
Daskreechaladds: ping :)22:25
nconradsDaskreech: Just clicking on the KDE Groupware Wizard via KDE's search.22:25
DaskreechL3top: Well how did you notice that they are being run twice?22:25
nconradsDaskreech: I get what looks like a straightforward Qt window with only Novell GroupWise listed.22:26
DaskreechStrange. What did you search for?22:27
nconradsKDE Groupware Wizard.  Also tried it via cli with `groupwarewizard`22:27
L3topI have an echo to let me know the status of an X AVWizard. After beating things up all day trying to figure out if my code is bad pstree insisted that rc5.d was the point of origin, so just dropped an executable echo directly into rc5.d named S99echome, and indeed it ran twice on startup.22:28
DaskreechL3top: what's the dependency for that script22:32
L3topin the header? The script is 0start_avwizard, which depends on checkavwizard. checkavwizard depends on nothing... if I understand you correctly.22:35
L3topAll check_avwizard does is look for a shift key input to manually start avwizard.22:35
L3topdefault start is 2 default stop is 1.22:36
DaskreechL3top: does it have a check to not run if there is a previous instance?22:43
L3topIt is not called until completed22:45
L3toprc5.d just runs and then runs again each script at a certain point, if not from the beginning22:45
L3topactually... in my list... S98mediatomb is the last to run once. The S99+ all run twice. That will make it easier to figure out.22:46
L3topI was rebooting so I dont know if you got that each instance is called after the first completes, so they do not run at the same time22:47
Daskreech!upstart23:03
ubottuUpstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/23:03
L3topI was rebooting so I dont know if you got that each instance is called after the first completes, so they do not run at the same time. Anything labeled S99* runs twice from rc5d. Everything <= S98 runs once.23:07
DaskreechL3top: That includes thigns that you didn't put in maually ?23:10
L3topyes23:10
L3topWell... includes some things I did not put in manually.23:11
L3topI will drop an echo in all of them to confirm.23:11
DaskreechAlright23:19
L3topnope... I am wrong... I think I know the problem.23:19
Daskreech^_^23:20

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