[00:18] So why might pulseaudio be randomly dying, it instantly restarts itself but anything using audio needs to be restarted to use the new pulseaudio process. Using 11.10 [00:20] It does this about once an hour while listening to something [01:27] Riddell: The Kubuntu factoid? [01:31] excognac: Do you have a dmesg log ? [01:31] Riddell: What would need improvement? [01:42] Hmm I wonder why I can not change the icon for an Activity? :/ [01:43] What KDE version?> [01:44] lemme check [01:44] I recall there being a bug for that for one of the releases [01:46] Daskreech: I only have txt file [01:48] Daskreech: I only have txt file named dmsg log, thereare also dmsg.1.gz.. up to 4 [01:56] excognac: Those are the files to check [02:47] Ahhhh my Activities Icon issue seems to be Bug 295721 [02:47] Launchpad bug 295721 in OpenERP "openobject-client: calendar widget: incompatible with lib hippo-canvas-0.3.0 " [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/295721 [03:12] I've just installed ssh-askpass, how should I make it load my keys on logon? [03:12] Why did you install ssh-aspass? [03:13] So that I don't have to enter the passphrase for my keys each time I connect to an SSH server - searching for an SSH agent for Kubuntu, that's what I turned up. [03:22] obelus: Read the manual for it? [03:22] http://www.debian.org/devel/passwordlessssh [03:27] Daskreech: Yes, I understand that I can implement it in .xsession - I was wondering if there was a way that KDE already allows for without doing that. [03:37] You mean a GUI program? [03:38] Yes, what I'd rather if possible is something similiar to Pageant from the PuTTY package for Windows, but where the keys are added automatically from a directory on startup. [03:40] you can do that with KDE wallet I think [03:42] http://www.pontohonk.de/kde/ssh.html [04:00] frogonwheels: How? [04:44] Daskreech: Sorry, didn't see your message until a minute ago. That link looks promising, I've downloaded the program for it, but can't compile it due to missing header files - do you know the name of the package for the KDE headers? [04:58] kwallet? [04:59] hallo [04:59] Daskreech: don't worry - I found the files, they were already installed as part of libqt4-dev, they just weren't in the include path. [04:59] Just trying to figure out some other errors in the compile now === arthur is now known as Guest3265 [05:25] а [05:44] Bye Guest [05:58] Sigh. My plasma desktop seems somewhat broken [05:58] obelus: somewhat? [05:59] Yeah. Basically it works for a few seconds on login, then breaks. [06:00] Be right back - going to see if I've fixed it. [06:06] Seems to not have broken this time. I think I should file a bug about that - I believe it was because I had a non-executable file in .kde/Autostart [06:13] ha :) === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang === dave is now known as Guest14899 [06:33] i dont speak english i need help [06:33] i need conet to irc hispano [06:34] some body help me [06:45] el_ateo: try /join #kubuntu-es or /join #ubuntu-es [06:46] el_ateo_: What do you need? [06:46] or el_ateo whichever [06:46] conectame to irc hispano Daskreech [06:47] I *think* that means the spanish IRC channel. That's why I mentioned #ubuntu-es and #kubuntu-es. [06:48] but is not the same server [06:49] !es | el_ateo_ [06:49] el_ateo_: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter. [06:50] el_ateo_: http://www.irc-hispano.es/webchat === ocs is now known as faLUCE [06:53] #IRC-Hispano [06:54] i dont now [06:54] please help me [06:54] el_ateo_: what are you using? [06:54] Quassel ? [06:55] yes [06:57] obelus: Do you have quassel? [06:58] Daskreech: No. I use KVIrc. [06:59] estoy en el horno [06:59] el_ateo_: ¿Se puede escribir /join #kubuntu-es ? [06:59] yes but disapear the channel [06:59] i dont now way [07:00] i will try [07:00] hmm [07:01] six users jajajaja [07:01] no body [07:02] ha [07:02] ok [07:03] el_ateo_: Can you click on http://www.irc-hispano.es/webchat ? [07:03] dont matter i like english, teach me [07:03] I would :) [07:03] yes but i dont see the comands [07:03] but I can't remember how to use Quassel [07:04] Ah you are joined on the website? [07:04] no [07:04] i use the program [07:04] oh :( [07:04] ok [07:04] which commands are you looking for? [07:04] OH! I know [07:04] el_ateo_: type /join #quassel [07:05] i am in quassel [07:05] Ask them how to add a server [07:05] that's what you want to do [07:06] ok but i dont know what is the server [07:08] el_ateo_: type /server irc.irc-hispano.org [07:09] show nothing [07:10] what the fuck!!!!!! [07:12] shit === ubuntu_ is now known as DemonWitch [07:16] !ohmy | el_ateo_ [07:16] el_ateo_: Please remember that all Ubuntu IRC channels share the same attitude of providing friendly and polite interaction with all users of all ages and cultures. Basically, this means no foul language and no abuse towards others. [07:18] ok ubottu dont pist off [07:18] i dont speak english [07:19] help me [07:20] Tm_T: Where is the server listing for quassel? [07:21] el_ateo_: Do you have a list of the rooms you are in? [07:21] I don't use quassel, sorry [07:21] you said you are in #quassel and #kubuntu-es [07:21] yes but i like argentina [07:22] that is the channel i wont [07:22] i from argentina [07:23] hello asfyxia [07:24] i'm the atheist :) [07:24] haha [07:24] el_ateo_: Umm try /server irc.irc-hispano.org/#argentina [07:24] ok [07:25] no, nothing hapends [07:26] fakin god [07:26] sorry [07:28] ok dont matter [07:28] i wont to learn english [07:30] el_ateo_: You don't see irc.irc-hispano.org in the sidepanel ? [07:31] no Daskreech [07:31] tolk me abaut malvinas... [07:32] about* [07:32] what do you thing? [07:33] Daskreech: [07:34] Malvina? [07:34] malvinas islands [07:35] are british or argentine? [07:35] el_ateo_: this is a channel for Kubuntu support, not general chat [07:35] Ah :) [07:36] ok but this es special case Tm_T [07:36] no [07:36] Tm_T: Trying to get el_ateo_ on the irc.irc-hispano.org server [07:36] i use ubuntu [07:36] dont be sad [07:36] el_ateo_: and you use Quassel? [07:36] yes yes yes [07:38] i drunk or drikns werever [07:38] is just this moment [07:39] ubuntu is free and malvinas? [07:39] el_ateo_: what do you use for a web browser? [07:39] Firefox/ [07:39] ? [07:39] firefox and chrome [07:40] i hate micrisoft [07:40] i love google [07:40] :-) Good for you [07:40] yes [07:41] i am hapy [07:41] can you click on http://www.irc-hispano.es/webchat ? [07:41] google is the best [07:41] you should be able to join the server from that Webpage [07:43] ok but malvinas? [07:43] :) [07:43] dont pist off [07:43] you guys are goos friends [07:44] They are free if they want to be [07:44] good* [07:44] I don't know if there is a #malvinas channel there :) [07:44] me nider [07:44] i ask you for you [07:45] what is your opinion [07:45] I have not thought about it [07:46] what is thought????? [07:48] think [07:48] i dont know what is the words [07:48] sorry [07:49] i dont speak english [07:49] to think = pensar [07:49] i speak english more or lest [07:49] yes i know [07:50] por que no me hablas en español entonces????? [07:51] Si think =pensar [07:51] thought pensamiento [07:52] ah ok i under stend now [07:52] but ypu shuld [07:52] you* [07:53] :-) but not tonight [07:53] malvinas is the unic place colonial in the world [07:53] ok [07:53] It is [07:53] tolk obout other thing [07:54] like pelaontologist [07:54] paleontologist [07:54] like jurassic park [07:54] i am a paleoartist [07:55] i work in barreales lake in neuquen provins [07:55] el_ateo_: please stick in topic [07:56] Tm_T: please i promese i dont speak to malvinas [07:56] ok? [07:57] Tm_T: do you like paleartists? [07:57] el_ateo_: the channel topic here is kubuntu support [07:57] reconstruccion of the dinosaurs [07:58] ok but is burried this theme [07:58] so, paleartist is intresting [07:59] el_ateo_: last time, stick in channel topic, please [07:59] ohhh please dont be sad [07:59] please adhere my request (: [08:00] no body tolk about ubuntu right now [08:00] doesn't matter [08:00] please [08:00] Good Morning [08:00] morning lordievader [08:01] How is everyone? [08:01] do you like metallica Tm_T????????? [08:02] or ramones????? [08:02] el_ateo_: I like keeping this channel on Kubuntu support [08:02] punk for ever [08:02] join #kubuntu-offtopic, for offtopic stuff. [08:03] ok tell me how i join to irc hispoano so [08:03] hispano* [08:03] you mean the command /join #kubuntu-offtopic? [08:03] el_ateo_: it's been told you multiple times [08:04] no, irc hispano [08:04] !language [08:04] Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional. [08:04] but nothink works [08:04] !languages [08:04] el_ateo_: 1041.20 < Daskreech> can you click on http://www.irc-hispano.es/webchat [08:05] It seems there is your answer. [08:05] if nothinf works so i speak to the other thing [08:05] el_ateo_: no [08:05] dont be sad Tm_T [08:06] i dont speak englis and i dont know to what speak to [08:06] i am amateur [08:06] you don't need to speak anything if you don't have Kubuntu support topic to discuss [08:07] and you wont to kill me [08:07] i am a good persons [08:07] !guidelines > el_ateo_ [08:07] el_ateo_, please see my private message [08:08] i so Tm_T [08:09] pero eres muy cruel Tm_T [08:09] you so crul [08:20] I believe I heard that this upcoming release of Kubuntu was the last release that was to be supported financially by canonical. Is there anywhere one can read what that means? e.g. will we continue to report bugs the same way, will kubuntu.com still exist, etc. [08:21] Really? Where have you read that [08:21] ? [08:21] bbeck: No other way around [08:22] last release that Canonical would take financial support for [08:23] Daskreech: I don't understand. Have I misunderstood? [08:23] If you were not giving money to Canonical then everything else works the same [08:24] bbeck: http://apachelog.wordpress.com/2012/02/07/how-kubuntu-did-not-change/ [08:24] bbeck: ^^^ [08:28] yofel: thank you, that link was very helpful. [08:28] :-) [08:29] yofel, Thank you :) === bigjools-afk is now known as bigjools === himcesjf1 is now known as himcesjf === JonathanDog is now known as JonathanD === azimuth_ is now known as Guest39367 [11:44] Hiyas all [12:34] Cheers! is there a way to find out how much data was read/written through an FD just by looking at /proc? I can see what FDs a process has, and I can see the IO stats of that process, but is there a way to see what file/socket/whatever had what share of IO? [12:36] phloog: you mean this ? http://wstaw.org/m/2012/04/02/plasma-desktopYd2143.png [12:37] Peace-: this is what /proc//io gives you [12:37] that's no problem. The problem is, I need to know how this IO is spread over the FDs this process has opened [12:37] I guess it's not possible. [12:37] dunno but this is not kubuntu issue [12:37] righto [12:37] #linux [12:38] or bash [12:38] #bash [12:38] maybe you can find someone of expert [12:39] yeah, thx [13:26] just downloaded libreoffice 3.5, where can i find the proper kde integration package for it? [13:36] excognac, no need to DL , just install from the packagemanager or the konsole. It's in the repos. [13:36] Goodmorning all! I'm trying to connect to our Windows Server from Kubuntu, I use to do it from Ubuntu, but I'm not understanding how to put in the serve info in the Network FOlder Box [13:36] It has Name, Server, Folder, I'm not sure what format and what info here? [13:36] any ideas? [13:37] designbybeck, are you using the "add network folder" wizard [13:37] ? [13:38] yes BluesKaj [13:39] ok choose microsoft network drive [13:39] Got that [13:39] then your linux username [13:40] in the "Name" filed BluesKaj? [13:40] yes , then IP address of the windows server [13:41] BluesKaj: this is the box i'm on http://www.pasteall.org/pic/29475 [13:41] in the server box, that is [13:42] why would I put in my linux username there BluesKaj? [13:43] oops sorry I was thinking ssh , not MS ...ok whatever the your username is on th windows server [13:44] i might be on to something [13:44] then the shared folder(s) below [13:45] it popped up my network username and password [13:45] now it is thinking [13:45] makes sense [13:46] that means it's scanning for shared folders with your permissions [13:47] everything seems right, but it isn't connecting [13:48] hmmm not connecting [13:48] designbybeck, ok there could be a problem with kwallet [13:49] disable kwallet for the time being . kwalletmanager in the krunner , disable [13:49] hmmm === ocs is now known as faLUCE [13:49] How do I do that BluesKaj? [13:51] yeah , it gave me probs , alt+f2 , type kwalletmanager, settings , disable [13:52] Under KDE Wallet Manager > Settings [13:52] I don't have disable [13:52] Under Confige I have a check by Enable the KDE Wallet subsystem [13:52] is that it? [13:52] just type kwalletmanager, then choose settings , then disable kwallet subsystem [13:54] kwallet is a pita to me [13:56] brb [13:59] BluesKaj: might I have an enabled firewall on my system blocking it? [14:01] designbybeck, what kind of connection to your LAN ...is this at your workplace ? [14:01] I'm on wireless right now [14:01] which i've connected to in the past from [14:01] thru a router ? [14:05] test [14:24] BluesKaj: I tried connecting to smb with a mac and it will not let me either [14:24] so something is going on with that windows share [14:30] designbybeck_, does the windows share show up in the workgroup in dolphin>places>network ? [14:30] there are some other computesr in the building that I can see that are windows machines [14:32] then the windows share that want isn't shared to your username it seems , unless of course you were able to access it previously [14:33] I'm not real familiar with WANs , they behave differently than a small home network LAN like I use [14:36] Grrrr They are sending a tech over! [14:37] are they linux savvy? [14:38] Heck no! [14:38] designbybeck_, you could ask action-parsnip in #ubuntu if he's there , he's a wiz at networking [14:38] ah [14:39] its not that much different than kubuntu [14:48] designbybeck_, is your connection timing out or .... ? [14:52] not sure BluesKaj just seems to try that useranme and apssword then just comes back to the box [14:54] designbybeck_, can ping the ip in the konsole [14:54] ? === yofel_ is now known as yofel [15:03] Hello [15:05] hey [15:05] BluesKaj, How are you? [15:08] BluesKaj: I was able to connect the way I use to in a Ubuntu machine [15:08] but Kubuntu isn't passing the info correctly [15:08] fine, lordievader , and you ? [15:08] BluesKaj, I'm doing just fine [15:08] designbybeck, using the same info obviously [15:09] correct [15:09] What is the problem? [15:09] something in KDE/Kubuntu isn't working correctly [15:09] Trying to connect to a Windows Share lordievader [15:09] Riddell: ping [15:09] it is working on a mac and on Ubuntu [15:09] weird how kde messes up networking [15:09] but not Kubuntu [15:09] in Dolphin, if i just put in smb://servename/ [15:10] Does it happen do do with samba? [15:10] it prompts for usernam/pass [15:10] but doesn't take it [15:10] on the ubuntu machine, i type in the same info and it works [15:10] don't know about samba, because it is workgin on Mac and Ubuntu....just not in Kubuntu/Dolphin [15:11] designbybeck: What are you trying to do? [15:12] designbybeck: you need to install samba first [15:12] It does seem you are using samba though: If the dolphin thing really isn't working you could manually mount them. "sudo mount -t cifs //server/dir -o username=,password= /mount/dir/ [15:12] Daskreech: Peace- I am trying to connect to a Windows Share on our campus network [15:13] designbybeck: sudo apt-get install samba [15:13] I have samba installed [15:13] designbybeck: Ah. can you connect by command line? [15:13] i can do a smbtree and see stuff [15:13] Peace-, he doesn't need samba , he already has smb [15:13] just hte pcs in this building [15:13] smb is samba [15:13] not the server on the domain i'm trying to connect to [15:13] yes , but no need for the gui [15:13] i can connect with a Mac and Ubuntu.... just not Kubuntu [15:13] I'll try to manually do it lordievader [15:14] Strange that it wouldn't work with Dolphin [15:14] designbybeck: what do you do on ubuntu ? [15:15] hi Daskreech [15:16] Peace-: IN Nautilas I just go to the location bar and type 'smb://servername/dir' [15:16] designbybeck: open konsole [15:16] press enter and it gives me username and password for the windows share, and i type in my cred and it works [15:16] designbybeck: start dolphin form konsole === david is now known as Guest13896 [15:17] ok Peace- i have it open now [15:17] designbybeck: so go where you have to go i mean 'smb://servername/dir' [15:17] designbybeck: and see if konsole says something [15:18] Peace-: here is the output http://www.pasteall.org/30615 [15:18] my ubuntu box is very slow today [15:18] any clue what to do? [15:19] designbybeck: after you have put 'smb://servername/dir' ? [15:20] designbybeck: give me the smb/stuff [15:20] i will try here from my linux box [15:20] yes [15:21] designbybeck: the location..? [15:27] Got a problem [15:27] My friend had a dual boot kubuntu 10.04 and windows 7 [15:28] he deleted the kubuntu partition and the system is not booting into windows 7 [15:28] how to revert to windows bootloader ?? [15:28] kevin_takeshi, Get a windows cd, boot to it and let it restore the bootloader. [15:29] windows cd is not available as of now [15:29] So, get this everyone! I installed nautilus.... tried the same thing, and it worked [15:29] So it is Dolphin not working with SMB and/or passing the correct username/password/domain over [15:29] kevin_takeshi, Then it is going to be very difficult. Search the internet, I guess that is a good idea. [15:30] designbybeck, Did the manual mount work? [15:30] it didn't seem to lordievader [15:30] Is it possbile to install grub through ubuntu live session without installing ubuntu ?? [15:30] designbybeck, is this windows server on the internet somewhere or on your campus network ? [15:31] local campus BluesKaj === BufferOverflow is now known as Unit193 [15:31] designbybeck, Really? What errors did it give? [15:31] kevin_takeshi, Perhaps, don't really know, I have nuked a lot of bootloaders but the windows cd always fixed it... [15:31] designbybeck: post a screenshot of dolphin [15:32] something like this lordievader http://www.pasteall.org/30616 [15:33] Peace-: http://www.pasteall.org/pic/29477 [15:34] designbybeck, the folder /mount/ does exist? [15:34] whether I put in username or username@domain it doesn't go [15:34] no lordievader i tried again with /mnt but that didn't seem to do anything either [15:35] designbybeck, ah i see an error, in the command between the username and the password needs to be a comma (,) not a space. [15:35] designbybeck: ok go on logs run this : ksystemlog [15:36] there is a filter bar [15:36] dolphin connects fine here with smb://nameofserver [15:36] ok Peace- [15:37] Hmmm why you gotta be cool like that BluesKaj [15:37] what am I looking for Peace- ? [15:37] designbybeck: open dolphin try to connect and see the last message on ksystemlog [15:37] designbybeck, , i'm not on a campus ...that's my wife's windows pc :) [15:37] BluesKaj: :P [15:38] Peace-, I think my other linuxbox is kaput :( [15:39] designbybeck, so the para meters should be: -o username=****,password=***** [15:39] ok lordievader [15:40] BluesKaj: :D [15:40] does a DHCPREQUEST [15:40] 5 times [15:41] paste [15:41] shows where it is going and coming from and a port number [15:44] lordievader: here is the output from trying to do it cli http://www.pasteall.org/30617 [15:49] This might explain why dolphin fails to mount it, but how to fix it is beyond me... sorry [15:49] Hmm, here someone says that installing smbfs worked: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1705052 [15:56] Riddell: What changes need to be made to the !ku factoid ? [15:57] !brub [15:57] !grub [15:57] GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10) [15:57] !grub2 [15:58] thanks lordievader [15:59] lordievader: File a bug with the output [16:04] Daskreech, ? what aree you talking about? [16:05] are* [16:08] lordievader: You were saying that you are not sure how to fix the passing of smb creds from dolphin [16:09] File a bug against dolphin with the output. In a perfect scenario you shouldn't have to figure out that something needs fixing at all [16:09] Daskreech, That was an answer to designbybeck.... [16:10] lordievader: I'm aware. [16:10] Then shouldn't designbybeck be the one to file it? [16:11] Anyhow, gotta go. [16:11] lordievader: you may provide more insight. If designbyback agrees you can both file [16:11] Or not :-( === ubuntu_ is now known as arshinator [16:24] hi canyone tell me how to use grub2 [16:25] !grub2 | arshinator [16:25] arshinator: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10) [16:26] ubottu: i lost grub2 after installing windows [16:26] arshinator: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [16:27] DarthFrog: yes i had kubuntu installed and then i created a partition and installed windows there...so i directly boot into windows, i want to restore grub and then update the grub so that it gives me option between windows and kubuntu [16:27] arshinator: Follow the link the bot gave you. In a nutshell, you'll boot from a LiveCD, mount your system and chroot into that system, then restore grub. [16:29] If it was Win7 you installed, you could use EasyBCD there to set up a multi-boot system. [16:29] yes it was win 7 [16:30] DarthFrog: but i want to do it myself, and the link the bot gave me just shows how to restore grub not grub2 [16:31] No, it's for grub2. [16:31] Grub1 hasn't been used for years. [16:35] DarthFrog : i am not able to recognize the partition on which i installed kubuntu..but i remember the size of that partition. Can u help me in finding it [16:41] it is possible to install fring on ubuntu? I do not seem to be able to find appropriate information (that is information that actually works) [16:42] arshinator: That's unfortunate. [16:44] arshinator: When booted into the LiveCD, use the command "fdisk -l" to list all partitions. [16:44] ct529: Cute available on all flavours of Linux that don't have a desktop [16:44] You need root privileges to run fdisk, though. [16:44] Daskreech: that do not have a desktop? [16:45] DarthFrog: its not showing anything..it just gives me the command prompt again [16:45] ct529: Android, meebo, mer, ios [16:46] Daskreech: but then you can just install fring! [16:46] arshinator: sudo fdisk -l [16:47] <5EXAAMSPA> anyone here using / testing 12.04 beta 2 ? [16:47] !find fring [16:47] File fring found in el-get, emacs23-common, emacs23-el, festival, grass, grass-doc, hugin-data, lam4-dev, libestools2.1-dev, mlton-doc (and 5 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=fring&mode=&suite=oneiric&arch=any [16:48] Daskreech: yes I did also searcher through search engines and so on .... [16:48] 5EXAAMSPA, #ubuntu+1 for that please [16:48] <5EXAAMSPA> 5EXAAMSPA: thx! [16:49] <5EXAAMSPA> is it just ubuntu+1 or is there a seperate kubuntu+!? [16:49] ct529: Maybe it doesn't exist? [16:49] 5EXAAMSPA: Just the one +1 [16:50] 5EXAAMSPA: Few enough people test it without splitting that group up [16:50] Daskreech: I was wondering .... [16:50] <5EXAAMSPA> Daskreech: cool thanks [16:51] 5EXAAMSPA, I'm using 12.04 beta and so far so good [16:51] DarthFrog: i am accessing it through a live usb...and when i do "sudo grub-install /dev/sda1/" i get this error "/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /boot/grub (is /dev mounted?). [16:51] " [16:53] good, have a nice evening,bye! [16:53] ct529: Bye! [17:00] arshinator: Did you go though the full mounting procedure? Did you bind mount /proc, /sys and /dev? Did you chroot into the mounted system? And you want to install GRUB on /dev/sda not the partition sda1. [17:01] DarthFrog: no such thing was written there....can u give me a link on all this procedures or could tell me hw to do it [17:02] !grub2 | arshinator [17:02] arshinator: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10) [17:05] arshinator: Hmm, I've not used the Boot Repair tool so I'm no help to you there. [17:05] arshinator: I've only done the chroot method. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2?action=show&redirect=GRUB2#Methods_of_Reinstalling === massimo_ is now known as Guest47415 [17:53] how change the dimentions of the task bar ? [17:54] task bar or panel? [17:55] the taskbar size is determined by the number of icons in the panel , only the panel itself can be resized afaik , aguitel [17:58] You could make multiple panels at one screen edge and use one of them as taskbar, thereby define the size [18:22] BluesKaj, anyway to resize the panel ? [18:23] Hello === lethu is now known as Snoop_Doggy === Snoop_Doggy is now known as lethu [18:37] halloooooooooooooooooo [18:37] classroom, Hey [18:37] i heard kubuntu will stopped [18:37] no [18:38] only that one person wont be paid to work on it anymore [18:38] http://apachelog.wordpress.com/2012/02/07/how-kubuntu-did-not-change/ [18:39] classroom: Kubuntu will continue on as it did before. The only thing that changes is that Canonical will no longer be providing official support for it. [18:39] Kubuntu is reverting to its original status as a community-supported version of Ubuntu. [18:40] Which, in a way, makes sense. Kubuntu is for power users. Ubuntu is for those who want their computer to be an appliance. [18:41] There is also a move afoot to rename Kubuntu, to remove the association with Ubuntu. [18:42] And given that this move was initiated by the fellow who originated Kubuntu in the first place, it's likely to happen. [18:43] 0 === massimo_ is now known as Guest48685 === ubuntu_ is now known as DemonWitch === DemonWitch is now known as Pasparoskylos [18:54] hi [18:54] is there any one here? [18:55] Nobody but us chickens. [18:55] DarthFrog: Stop your fuss [18:56] Cluck! [19:00] how can i install programs in kubuntu? [19:00] Use the package manager, muon. [19:02] JontheEchidna: ping [19:02] mostafa: alt+F2 -> muon [19:02] mostafa, Or if you feel confident you can use the terminal, but if you are a beginner Muon is an easier choice. [19:03] how can i download programs for kubuntu [19:03] Muon will do it all for you. [19:04] mostafa, As Daskreech said, use Muon. [19:07] i press Alt+f2 and type Muon but nothing happen [19:11] mostafa, Check the menu -> Applications -> System -> Package manager [19:13] do you mean kpackagekit [19:15] Euhmm no... I either mean the Software Center, or the Muon package manager. Software center is muon too btw/ [19:15] brb [19:16] back === ubuntu_ is now known as Pasparoskylos [20:06] Is there a guide for KDE 3 users who have no idea how KDE 4 is *supposed* to work anywhere? [20:07] aladds: userbase.kde.org ? [20:07] aladds: I hope you've gotten past the login section at least [20:07] hah, yeah of course [20:07] I just feel that the way I'm used to using a desktop environment is clashing with how KDE 4 should work [20:08] aladds: how do you feel a desktop environment should work? [20:10] Well, for instance, kickoff seems to want me to type applications names like the start menu on windows/spotlight on the mac, but the 'super' key doesn't open it (nor should it, necessarily) so clicking the menu with the mouse, then moving back to the keyboard to type seems counter-intuitive [20:12] aladds: hmm I have alt+f1 as the shortcut to open it here [20:13] granted I never use it since i have alt+F2 ..... [20:13] ah yeah, that seems to work. I've only just discovered alt-F2 from the link you gave me [20:13] !!! [20:14] aladds: Then your idea of how a desktop environment should work was already wrong! [20:14] this is my point :-) [20:14] indeed [20:14] aladds: alt+F2 is the uber key [20:15] aladds: for instance try alt+F2 -> 3*7= [20:15] a bit like cmd-space on the mac [20:15] aladds: a bit like it ;) [20:15] i just hit alt-space when I meant to do alt-F2… this is going to take some getting used to :S [20:15] except imo more useful [20:15] aladds: change it to alt_space then [20:16] :) [20:16] We arent that rigid [20:16] and here comes the fun part :) [20:17] I appreciate that, I just feel that I imagine changing it to alt-space will clash with something else [20:17] aladds: That's why this is fun :) [20:17] hah [20:17] aladds: alt+F2 -> global [20:17] That will give the global keyboard shortcuts [20:18] The ones that work without any context for applications etc [20:18] There is a drop down at the top for the KDE Component that owns the shortcut [20:18] look for run command or krunner in that drop down box === PaulW2U is now known as G4MBY [20:19] When you find the alt+F2 you can click on it to change it to whatever you like [20:19] If it conflicts with something else it will let you know what is conflicting and you can choose to keep this one and change the old one to something else or abandon this change [20:19] (Nothing conflicts so that's just for your information) [20:20] oh cool [20:20] aladds: Isn't it? [20:21] aladds: For each individual KDE application you can go to Settings-> Shortcut settings to see what shortcuts that application has when it's in focus if you are keyboard bound [20:21] I honestly almost never touch the mouse anymore [20:22] It's actually behind my monitor so I have to reach around it to move it [20:23] hah [20:23] i do hate the mouse, so I can see why [20:25] aladds: embrace your alt+f2 then [20:25] :) [20:25] alt-space now :P [20:25] alt+space-> mouse [20:25] alt+space -> logout [20:25] hmm [20:26] i know I could never get used to alt-f2, much like when apple changed the scrolling direction [20:27] i felt that it being 'backwards' made more sense, and I liked that. But I use different computers all the time, and muscle memory caused me to get it wrong every_single_time [20:27] :P [20:30] aladds: change it to what your muscles work with [20:30] i shall do :) [20:30] any other questions? [20:31] yeah… was that a netsplit? :P [20:31] I hope so [20:31] People are fleeing! Run in the direction of the crowd [20:31] nah, I don't think I have anything else to bother you with right now :) [20:32] thanks for your help, though [20:32] aladds: Oh I should mention alt+space -> wp:kde [20:32] I'll play around [20:32] neat [20:32] yep [20:33] there is gg: and ggi: and ggl: etc [20:33] ddg: if that's your thing :) [20:33] rdt? [20:33] what's rdt ? [20:33] guessing how one might shorten reddit [20:33] :P [20:34] also, ddg doesn't seem to do anything [20:34] aladds: Oh hold on let me see if there is a reddit on you can turn on [20:35] is there somewhere I can configure those for myself? [20:36] aladds: Yep. Open Konqueror and settings-> configure konqueror-> Web Browsing ->Web shortcuts [20:36] Then you just create a string that would place your phrase in the search string for the site and give it a shortcut name [20:37] I'm assuming konqueror != rekonq? [20:37] put a checkmark beside it and you are two keystrokes way from searching your favourtie site [20:37] aladds: Konqueror != rekonq but Rekonq uses the settings from konqueror [20:37] so If you make a web shortcut in Konqueror then rekonq respects it [20:38] hooray shared code [20:38] ok, I don't seem to have konquerer installed [20:39] huh. OK well I think you can set it up from in rekonq then [20:40] It would be the web shortcuts [20:41] hmm, none of them seem to work… could this be because I set chrome to be my default browser? [20:41] aladds: are they checked? You can define them and then leave them disabled [20:41] they come up in the menu when I type things [20:41] No I think that it would open the browser that can handle them regardless of the default [20:41] i hit enter and nothing happens is all [20:41] I think >_> [20:42] chrome's probably broken it [20:42] I forget if chrome is my default handler or not [20:42] ah shame I'll see if that runner can possibly be changed to hand over a generic URL to the default browser [20:43] that might be helpful to firefox and links users [20:43] aladds: I'll have to test that to see what happens with various browsers set as default [20:44] well chrome set itself, so it could have done it wrong [20:44] aladds: out of curiousity what happens when you type say www.yahoo.com into krunner ? [20:45] nothing at al [20:45] *all [20:45] bleah and i find those remarkably useful shortcuts too [20:46] could it be that the default web browser entry in default applications needs to have something like %d or %s or whatever to pass the url to the browser? [20:46] aladds: Yep that would be my guess [20:47] as I said I can play with it and try to suggest better handling of items. Though if chrome did setitself without the %u that would suck [20:48] that fixed it [20:48] %u [20:48] and chrome did indeed set it without that [20:49] oh [20:49] now it's opening everything twice [20:49] hmm [20:50] Daskreech: do you know how many bugs were fixed with the latest release? [20:50] and removing the %u makes it work correctly... [20:50] ybit: Sorry. What release? [20:50] aladds: ha ha :) [20:50] thing is, can i make it repeat that [20:52] right, i can [20:52] bug report time :) [20:55] Daskreech: 11.04 [20:55] apparently opensuse fixed 12k bugs for its last release, i'm just comparing [20:56] i'm assuming they are including all the bug fixes directly to kde software not specifically with the opensuse distro [21:01] aladds: :) [21:01] The bug is still there in chromium [21:01] ybit: You would assume wrong :) [21:01] assuming it's not a kde bug [21:02] I don't know that they have had 12k bugs fixed in KDE since lastrelease [21:02] that would be cool though [21:02] so... where is this number coming from... [21:03] aladds: May want to check in #kubuntu-devel if you want an opinion of where to file it. bugs.kde.org against KDE or launchpad against chrome [21:03] ybit: I would guess it's all the bugs in the packages they are shipping [21:03] cool cheers [21:04] It would be a little naive to try and localize bugs to KDE since KDE does not control all the bugs [21:05] of course [21:06] aladds: That was aimed at ybit not you :) [21:07] it sort of made sense to me too [21:07] i assume kde is a huge project [21:07] Possibly the largest opensource project in existence [21:08] Depending on how you measure girth [21:09] That explains why it took longer to compile kde than it did to compile kernel & x11 combined when I once played with gentoo (never again :P) [21:10] ha ha Well it does have more lines of code than either of those (I think more than them combined even) [21:19] When installing KDE from the mini.iso, should I select kde-standard or kubuntu-desktop, or both? [22:13] Does anyone know why rc5.d would be running scripts twice in a row? [22:17] There a known issue with the KDE Groupware Wizard missing support for Kolab servers in 11.10? [22:18] Hola [22:19] necesito ayuda [22:19] estoy intentando imprimir desde kubuntu hacia una impresora de red de windows [22:19] !es [22:19] En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter. [22:19] Gracias [22:19] de nada [22:21] ronnoc: kubuntu-desktop if you want the Kubuntuized choices for KDE and kde-standard if you want .. .well a standard KDE [22:22] L3top: upstart dependencies? [22:22] nconrads: Not that I know of how are you invoking it? [22:24] ty for a direction Daskreech. Where should I begin looking [22:25] aladds: ping :) [22:25] Daskreech: Just clicking on the KDE Groupware Wizard via KDE's search. [22:25] L3top: Well how did you notice that they are being run twice? [22:26] Daskreech: I get what looks like a straightforward Qt window with only Novell GroupWise listed. [22:27] Strange. What did you search for? [22:27] KDE Groupware Wizard. Also tried it via cli with `groupwarewizard` [22:28] I have an echo to let me know the status of an X AVWizard. After beating things up all day trying to figure out if my code is bad pstree insisted that rc5.d was the point of origin, so just dropped an executable echo directly into rc5.d named S99echome, and indeed it ran twice on startup. [22:32] L3top: what's the dependency for that script [22:35] in the header? The script is 0start_avwizard, which depends on checkavwizard. checkavwizard depends on nothing... if I understand you correctly. [22:35] All check_avwizard does is look for a shift key input to manually start avwizard. [22:36] default start is 2 default stop is 1. [22:43] L3top: does it have a check to not run if there is a previous instance? [22:45] It is not called until completed [22:45] rc5.d just runs and then runs again each script at a certain point, if not from the beginning [22:46] actually... in my list... S98mediatomb is the last to run once. The S99+ all run twice. That will make it easier to figure out. [22:47] I was rebooting so I dont know if you got that each instance is called after the first completes, so they do not run at the same time [23:03] !upstart [23:03] Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model. For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/ [23:07] I was rebooting so I dont know if you got that each instance is called after the first completes, so they do not run at the same time. Anything labeled S99* runs twice from rc5d. Everything <= S98 runs once. [23:10] L3top: That includes thigns that you didn't put in maually ? [23:10] yes [23:11] Well... includes some things I did not put in manually. [23:11] I will drop an echo in all of them to confirm. [23:19] Alright [23:19] nope... I am wrong... I think I know the problem. [23:20] ^_^