/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/04/02/#ubuntu-accessibility.txt

IvanFetchAlanBell: Which version of Ubuntu are you working with, in the videos you posted on Sunday?05:30
AlanBell12.0406:03
AlanBellit is now good enough to see all the bugs06:04
=== popey_ is now known as popey
joanieHey guys. Is it a known issue that unity-greeter events go AWOL?21:16
joanietranslation: Orca cain't present it if Orca doesn't know about it.21:16
joanieAlanBell, TheMuso, and anyone else who cares: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity-greeter/+bug/97192621:37
ubot2Launchpad bug 971926 in unity-greeter "Accessible events stop being emitted after exploring menu" [Undecided,New]21:37
joanieAside from the bug itself....21:37
joanieYou will find there a tester I hope will prove of value to you21:37
joanieit's quick and dirty: mv /usr/bin/orca and put this script in its place21:38
joanieit will dump out key presses, key releases and the most essential accessible events (or in this case the lack thereof)21:38
joanieand will hopefully be a way for you to answer "Why isn't Orca doing such and such?"21:39
AlanBellthat is nice joanie 21:45
joanie:)21:45
joanieI also tried to add enough stuff to make it re-usable and tweakable and such by your team21:46
joanieand as questions come up about tweaking, I can answer those21:46
joanieand hopefully you'll wind up with some tools for your team to dig into this stuff without having to know the ins and outs of at-spi2, etc.21:47
TheMusojoanie: Yeah I filed a similar bug last week. I suspect that since window management is not being used, something is breaking somewhere.22:01
TheMusobecause in test mode, unity-greeter works properly.22:01
TheMusoTest mode is designed to run in a user's session in a window.22:02
joanieTheMuso: Hmmm. In test mode does the bug I just filed not occur?22:13
joaniebecause in that case things start out right22:13
joanieand then stop being right 22:13
TheMusojoanie: I know.22:25
* TheMuso tests in test mode once again.22:25
TheMusojoanie: yeah works fine in test mode22:26
joanieweird22:26
* joanie googles for test mode22:27
TheMusojoanie: unity-greeter --test-mode22:27
TheMusoin your logged in session.22:27
joanieha!22:27
* joanie gives it a try22:28
joanieguest account has a password?22:28
TheMusoAll those accounts in the test mode are bogus.22:28
joanieno22:28
joaniesorry22:28
joanielemme 'splain22:28
joanieThis computer is my fedora box22:29
joanieso I went to my laptop22:29
joaniescreen had locked22:29
joanieI am being prompted for a password for the guest account22:29
joanieI tried an empty password and that failed22:29
joaniethis is not test mode22:29
TheMusoohhhh22:37
TheMusobug time. :)22:37
joanieso this isn't a known issue. ;)22:38
* joanie searches lp22:38
joaniealready here22:39
joanieand old22:39
joaniehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-screensaver/+bug/81833522:39
ubot2Launchpad bug 818335 in gnome-screensaver "Blank password is invalid on unlock screen" [Undecided,New]22:39
TheMusoRight.22:44
joanieTheMuso: Finally tried test-mode. It segfaults.23:14
TheMusojoanie: How did you test it? I was testing with Orca running, and I didn't enable orca from within the greeter.23:15
joaniein other news, apparently Orca's flat review mode doesn't like unity-greeter.23:15
joanieI launched a terminal, Orca wasn't running. I typed 'unity-greeter --test-mode'23:15
joanieit spewed debug output, did the little drum sound, and promptly killed itself23:16
TheMusoAnd it segfaulted?23:16
joanieyessir23:16
joaniedon't you love release season? ;)23:16
TheMusoInteresting. I am running latest precise, nothign custom installed here.23:16
joaniewell, I am first going to stop the Orca flat review bad behavior if I can23:16
TheMusoWorks every time when I run in test mode.23:16
joanieI think I can23:16
TheMusoOk.23:17

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