| cjohnston | pleia2: are we not going to do an arrival/departure list like normal for cab rides and such? | 00:04 |
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| nigelb | heh http://massivebacon.com/ | 02:16 |
| marcavis | Gee, it's been tough to get an answer about this https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+question/175885 | 02:43 |
| cjohnston | marcavis: the reason you can't add for the one app is because its non-free... I haven't yet found any sort of rules for commercial apps | 03:00 |
| marcavis | Yeah, it's... weird. Why can Braid get a screenshot? Frogatto's engine is free, so we offer more to the free software community, at least | 03:02 |
| cjohnston | probably because its commercial, and Frogatto is non-free | 03:03 |
| marcavis | I mean, if it's what it takes, we'll have to consider making it non-free as in beer, in Ubuntu :/ | 03:03 |
| cjohnston | It has to be free and open source and no charge or start selling it and pay the required fees | 03:05 |
| marcavis | Right... do you think there is someone I can talk to, that'd reconsider the policy? Even if it probably weren't going to work | 03:08 |
| cjohnston | Try starting with dpm | 03:09 |
| cjohnston | he may be able to point you in the right direction | 03:09 |
| cjohnston | my assumption is that it has to do with the fact that canonical makes money from commercial apps, they get more privs than non-free apps, and free apps get the privs for being free | 03:11 |
| marcavis | Hmm. That does make some sense... Still, it sucks that it conflicts with our business plan of being free-as-in-beer in computers, and commercial on mobile devices | 03:14 |
| marcavis | Either way, thanks! I'll get in touch with dpm (hmm, I only see dpb_ in #ubuntu, guess I'll wait a bit) | 03:15 |
| cjohnston | its the weekend | 03:15 |
| marcavis | Ah... most people do go out on weekends :P | 03:16 |
| greg-g | marcavis: he probably won't be in #ubuntu but he should be here during the week :) | 03:28 |
| marcavis | Hmmm, I see | 03:30 |
| dholbach | good morning | 07:13 |
| czajkowski | aloha | 08:01 |
| dholbach | hi czajkowski | 08:09 |
| czajkowski | dholbach: greetings from Ireland :) | 08:10 |
| dholbach | ah, nice :) | 08:10 |
| czajkowski | yup | 08:10 |
| jussi | Bah, nothing works this mornig :/ | 08:23 |
| * czajkowski hands jussi a 12.04 cd working fine here ;) | 08:25 | |
| jussi | czajkowski: sigh, not only 12.04 being evil. | 08:25 |
| czajkowski | it's not evil it;s shinny | 08:26 |
| jussi | although my external monitor doesnt work currently, and that silly printer adding thing that steals focus on the login screen is also evil. | 08:26 |
| jussi | but anyway, Ill file bugs | 08:26 |
| popey | \o/ bugs | 08:30 |
| popey | bug 971130 is my current annoyance | 08:30 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 971130 in unity "Dash waits before letting user press 'enter'" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/971130 | 08:30 |
| czajkowski | popey: spends his evenings videobugging | 08:31 |
| czajkowski | which is actually really cool | 08:31 |
| popey | heh | 08:32 |
| jussi | hey, could someone check if their display settings in systems settings crashes system settings? | 08:36 |
| popey | doesnt here | 08:39 |
| popey | but i only have one internal display | 08:39 |
| jussi | ok, IM updating now, perhaps its fixed (the bug reporter said I have obsolete packagers) | 08:40 |
| Daviey | obsolete packagers are the worst kind. Worse than superseded sysadmins. | 09:09 |
| jussi | Daviey: you actually got a smile out of me for that one, well done | 09:23 |
| cjohnston | uggh.. another team that seems to just be adding people because they can | 10:41 |
| popey | heh | 10:42 |
| popey | he's 12 | 10:42 |
| cjohnston | yup | 10:42 |
| popey | https://launchpad.net/~kendfinger | 10:43 |
| czajkowski | that name rings a bell | 10:43 |
| czajkowski | hmmm | 10:43 |
| cjohnston | g'mornin launchpad lady | 10:44 |
| cjohnston | ;-) | 10:44 |
| czajkowski | ahhhhh he keeps adding lp stuff to teams and it's in my inbox | 10:44 |
| czajkowski | Ubuntu geek squad | 10:44 |
| mhall119 | geek squad? | 12:43 |
| sagaci | it's the new team everyone needs to be in :) | 12:45 |
| dpm | mhall119, are you up for a session on unity-hello during UADW? You'd have the privilege of adding the first session -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAppDeveloperWeek/Timetable ;-) | 13:06 |
| mhall119 | dpm: sure! | 13:08 |
| dpm | mhall119, cool, thanks! Feel free to pick up a slot you like | 13:09 |
| * czajkowski goes and pokes people | 13:10 | |
| dpm | anyone else around and up for an Ubuntu App Developer Week session? | 13:10 |
| czajkowski | poking folks on lp | 13:10 |
| czajkowski | dpm: one to come soon about the LP API | 13:13 |
| czajkowski | just coming up with a title | 13:13 |
| dpm | czajkowski, ooohh thank you! | 13:14 |
| * dpm hugs czajkowski | 13:14 | |
| czajkowski | np | 13:14 |
| czajkowski | *hugs* | 13:14 |
| * mhall119 hates on YouTube a little bit right now | 13:19 | |
| popey | awww, why's that mhall119 | 13:21 |
| mhall119 | it failed to process my latest .ogv | 13:23 |
| mhall119 | I had to figure out how to convert it to something else without losing quality (still lost a little) | 13:23 |
| popey | dude! | 13:25 |
| popey | use kazam | 13:25 |
| mhall119 | why? | 13:25 |
| mhall119 | the problem was youtube and ogv | 13:25 |
| popey | yes | 13:25 |
| mhall119 | not gtk-recordmydesktop | 13:25 |
| popey | kazam doesn't record to ogg | 13:25 |
| popey | it records to webm or h264 | 13:26 |
| popey | both of which _always_ work | 13:26 |
| popey | http://youtube.com/user/popeydc <- all of those made with kazam | 13:26 |
| mhall119 | ogv should always work | 13:26 |
| * mhall119 blames youtube, not ogv | 13:26 | |
| popey | well it doesnt | 13:26 |
| popey | I'm not blaming ogv | 13:26 |
| mhall119 | I know | 13:26 |
| popey | it's the ffmpeg that youtube uses that has the ieeu | 13:26 |
| popey | er issue | 13:26 |
| mhall119 | at any rate, it's converted and uploaded now | 13:27 |
| mhall119 | just was a pain | 13:27 |
| popey | also, kazam is much better | 13:27 |
| mhall119 | I'll give it a try next time | 13:27 |
| * nigelb does h264 for all the time. | 13:27 | |
| popey | it can record audio from microphone _and_ internal audio at the same time | 13:27 |
| popey | and has a very active developer (who is coming to UDS) | 13:27 |
| popey | all other screencasting apps are dead to me :D | 13:27 |
| nigelb | hehe | 13:27 |
| czajkowski | you should listent o the bugvideocaster | 13:28 |
| popey | the whatwhat? | 13:29 |
| czajkowski | some people are podcasters | 13:34 |
| czajkowski | videocasters | 13:34 |
| czajkowski | others are bugvideocasters :) you talk through your bugs via videos | 13:34 |
| czajkowski | :) | 13:34 |
| czajkowski | it made sense in my head | 13:34 |
| popey | haha | 13:49 |
| czajkowski | Laura logic at its best | 13:49 |
| * czajkowski munches on brown bread with white pudding | 13:49 | |
| czajkowski | oh in heaven | 13:49 |
| * mhall119 likes Lauralogic | 13:52 | |
| czajkowski | :) | 13:53 |
| jcastro | "SERIOUSLY, Canonical? You want 20 million users for Ubuntu but YOU'RE PICKING THIS AS THE DEFAULT WALLPAPER? " | 14:21 |
| dholbach | all efforts thwarted by the choice of wallpaper | 14:22 |
| dholbach | ok everyone, it's time to give up and go back home | 14:22 |
| mhall119 | jcastro: Didn't you know that default wallpaper is the single biggest factor in consumer electronics purchasing decisions? | 14:24 |
| czajkowski | it's not a nice default | 14:24 |
| czajkowski | but then again none of them really have been so i don't use the defaul | 14:24 |
| mhall119 | most people don't, which is fine. it's great, in fact | 14:25 |
| jussi | mhall119: did you get your grey icon? | 14:40 |
| dholbach | jcastro, are we already planning UOW? | 14:40 |
| jcastro | I am supposed to be | 14:41 |
| jcastro | but was gone last week | 14:41 |
| dholbach | sure sure | 14:41 |
| jcastro | Ok sure, you can do it if you want | 14:41 |
| jcastro | :) | 14:41 |
| dholbach | hahaha | 14:41 |
| dholbach | I was just wondering if I should add a dev session? | 14:41 |
| jcastro | actually, I was going to ask phillipw for help | 14:41 |
| jcastro | since he was asking for stuff to do | 14:41 |
| jcastro | oh sure | 14:41 |
| dholbach | cool | 14:41 |
| jcastro | is the empty schedule up? You can just grab a slot, I don't care. | 14:41 |
| dholbach | yes | 14:42 |
| dholbach | but is May 1st a good idea? | 14:42 |
| dholbach | it will be a holiday in many places | 14:42 |
| jcastro | is that memorial day? | 14:42 |
| dholbach | May Day / Labour Day | 14:43 |
| jcastro | we can go 2,3,4? | 14:43 |
| dholbach | if May 1st works well for everyone and we get a schedule together we can still do it 1,2,3 | 14:43 |
| jcastro | I ALREADY CHANGED THE WIKI. | 14:44 |
| jcastro | j/k, I can do whatever | 14:44 |
| jcastro | you tell me which you prefer, and I will do that. | 14:44 |
| dholbach | I can do whatever too - any other opinions^? | 14:45 |
| * dholbach will take something on May 2nd | 14:45 | |
| jcastro | ok, 2-4 it is | 14:45 |
| * jcastro fixes the wiki | 14:46 | |
| * popey tickles jcastro | 14:49 | |
| dholbach | dpm, want some ubuntu dev content for UADW? :) | 14:50 |
| jcastro | popey: I know, update, I wanted to hit delete so bad. | 14:52 |
| dholbach | hey jono | 14:53 |
| dholbach | welcome back :) | 14:53 |
| jono | hey dholbach! | 14:53 |
| jono | thanks! | 14:53 |
| jono | good to be back :-) | 14:53 |
| balloons | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVS3WNt7yRU obligiatory | 14:53 |
| jcastro | \o/ | 14:54 |
| jcastro | Man what a week! | 14:54 |
| jono | balloons, lol | 14:56 |
| balloons | lol.. I saw your april fools post also.. very well done | 14:56 |
| dholbach | I'd love to see Jono give a talk in French | 14:58 |
| jono | balloons, thanks! | 14:58 |
| jono | dholbach, can you imagine it, lol | 14:58 |
| jono | dholbach, all set? | 14:59 |
| dholbach | yep | 14:59 |
| dholbach | let's do it | 14:59 |
| jono | dholbach, invite sent | 15:00 |
| mhall119 | dpm: do you have a few minutes to jump on a hangout and talk about the new developer docs? | 15:11 |
| dpm | mhall119, not now sorry, perhaps after my call with Jono in ~45? | 15:12 |
| mhall119 | sure | 15:12 |
| mhall119 | balloons: can I get you for a few minutes to talk about testing documentation for unity? | 15:14 |
| balloons | mhall119, yes.. | 15:14 |
| balloons | maybe in 5? | 15:14 |
| mhall119 | balloons: ok, ping me when you're ready | 15:14 |
| cprofitt | hey bodhi_zazen | 15:18 |
| bodhi_zazen | 'lo cprofitt | 15:22 |
| dholbach | dpm, I'll go ahead and add something | 15:32 |
| jono | dpm, all set? | 15:32 |
| * dpm hugs dholbach :) | 15:32 | |
| dpm | jono, all set, but a recent kernel update broke my camera again, so voice only on my side | 15:32 |
| dpm | can't even get the USB cam to work... | 15:32 |
| jono | dpm, np | 15:33 |
| dpm | actually, I'll try the USB cam from the other computer. | 15:33 |
| jono | dpm, inv sent | 15:33 |
| jono | cool | 15:33 |
| dpm | ok, joining in... | 15:34 |
| dholbach | I have a bit of a headache - I'll take break, but brb | 15:34 |
| jono | dholbach, take care | 15:35 |
| dholbach | dpm, UADW seems to have more slots than UDW :) | 16:13 |
| dholbach | err | 16:13 |
| dholbach | UOW | 16:13 |
| dholbach | too many U*Ws | 16:13 |
| jono | mhall119, you know what would be cool :-) | 16:14 |
| dpm | dholbach, I wasn't too sure how many I should add, I took the same number as UDW | 16:14 |
| jono | mhall119, if you could edit the code inside hello-unity and it would dynamically update the things you are showing | 16:14 |
| dpm | I generally started UADW at 16:00UTC | 16:14 |
| dpm | jono, you've had the same thought we discussed last week on a call :) | 16:14 |
| jono | dpm, btw, I forgot to ask, did you finish your perf review? | 16:15 |
| jono | dpm, cool :-) | 16:15 |
| mhall119 | jono: yeah, but I'd have to make a local-copy of the files to allow that | 16:15 |
| jono | mhall119, gotcha | 16:15 |
| jono | mhall119, you could make in /tmp couldn't you? | 16:15 |
| mhall119 | also, I'm not sure how to dynamically load/execute code in python | 16:15 |
| mhall119 | jono: yeah, probably could | 16:15 |
| jono | mhall119, I did this in PyJunior, take a look at the code | 16:15 |
| dpm | jono, yes (the part for which the deadline was last week). I need to do some peer reviews still, but the next deadline is on the 11th, iirc | 16:16 |
| mhall119 | jono: ok | 16:16 |
| jono | dpm, cool | 16:16 |
| jcastro | my thing is done, I am safe! | 16:16 |
| jono | jcastro, nice! | 16:16 |
| jcastro | I was panicking though, my thing didn't show up at all in the review system | 16:16 |
| jcastro | I had to manually ask HR to add it | 16:16 |
| jcastro | so I ended up doing it on a plane | 16:16 |
| dholbach | same here | 16:16 |
| jcastro | with mere hours left on the deadline! | 16:16 |
| dpm | and here ;) | 16:17 |
| jono | lol | 16:18 |
| dholbach | alright, I'm calling it a day - see you all tomorrow | 16:22 |
| * jussi prods at mhall119 | 16:25 | |
| mhall119 | hey jussi | 16:25 |
| jussi | heya. did you get the icon? or shall I send it to you? | 16:25 |
| mhall119 | for glipper? | 16:25 |
| jussi | yeah | 16:25 |
| mhall119 | I haven't done the modification you said to do, if you can send it to me I'd appreciate it very much | 16:26 |
| jussi | mhall119: email address please | 16:26 |
| mhall119 | <-- at ubuntu.com | 16:26 |
| jussi | in your mail :) | 16:27 |
| jcastro | jono: I can go today if you want to get me in early, I've been busy. :) | 16:40 |
| * jcastro mumbles something about cat away and mice playing | 16:40 | |
| * jcastro inmates ... asylum | 16:40 | |
| mhall119 | thanks jussi | 16:40 |
| jono | jcastro, will do later, just catching up on a few things | 16:42 |
| dpm | mhall119, do you mind if we talk tomorrow about the new developer docs instead of today? I'm leaving in a few minutes | 16:42 |
| mhall119 | dpm: ok, I also need to talk to you about getting translation/localization docs for unity.u.c | 16:44 |
| dpm | mhall119, ok, cool, thanks. Let's talk tomorrow when you get online | 16:45 |
| jono | balloons, need to move our call a little later | 16:55 |
| jono | jcastro, I will do our call after my call with balloons | 16:56 |
| jono | jcastro, we will speak at 1.30 Pac | 16:56 |
| jcastro | \o/ | 16:56 |
| balloons | jono, I'm here all day.. I'll warn you tho, it won't be a quick call | 16:56 |
| balloons | so budget accordingly | 16:56 |
| jono | balloons, np, we can resume after though | 16:58 |
| jono | mhall119, all set? | 16:58 |
| mhall119 | jono: yup | 17:01 |
| jono | mhall119, inv sent | 17:02 |
| === angela-android is now known as nothingspecial | ||
| balloons | crowdsourcing a question to you all.. is there an lp report showing the new packages that get added to the archive each day? By new I should say new uploads (aka, new versions of the an existing package, in addition to a new package) | 18:09 |
| mhall119 | daniel had something like that I think | 18:12 |
| mhall119 | balloons: something like http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/sponsoring-stats/? | 18:14 |
| balloons | I know I've seen pages that show me things like that.. but zzzzzzzzz | 18:14 |
| balloons | mhall119, interesting.. I'll have a look around and see if something catches my eye | 18:17 |
| nigelb | balloons: the easiest is to look at the mailing list. | 18:25 |
| nigelb | balloons: there's also https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+queue | 18:26 |
| nigelb | balloons: the changes mailing list looks like this https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/precise-changes/2012-April/date.html | 18:27 |
| balloons | nigelb, ahh.. the lp queue is cool | 18:28 |
| balloons | thanks for the ml link.. I knew it was on the ml somewhere as I had seen it, complete with the changelogs | 18:29 |
| nigelb | :) | 18:29 |
| balloons | i could easily create a feed from that if I wanted.. if one doesn't exist | 18:29 |
| nigelb | balloons: talk to tumbleweed / Laney. | 18:29 |
| nigelb | I think they have scripts to process to the mailing list. | 18:29 |
| balloons | ohh really? ok, will do thank you! | 18:30 |
| nigelb | :) | 18:32 |
| jono | balloons, lets roll | 19:54 |
| balloons | ah-eye el capitan! | 19:54 |
| jono | balloons, inv sent | 19:55 |
| jussi | balloons: its "Sir Jono" - did you not read his blog post? :P | 20:16 |
| MrChrisDruif | Indeed and Sir Jono also speaks a minimum of 3,5 hours about Ubuntu...but you should account for questioning so 4,5 hours! | 20:19 |
| mhall119 | jussi: balloons was using his internal title | 20:19 |
| jussi | mhall119: aahhh | 20:20 |
| jussi | mhall119: no, you got it all mixed up, 5 mins ubuntu, 1 hour Art of community and the rest * metal... | 20:21 |
| jussi | :P | 20:21 |
| mhall119 | jussi: you underestimate his ability to multi-task and combine interests | 20:28 |
| jussi | hahQ | 20:29 |
| mhall119 | now if you'll excuse me, I have to go back to writing my status report to the tune of a Slayer song | 20:29 |
| === popey_ is now known as popey | ||
| mhall119 | in chapter format | 20:29 |
| jono | jcastro, going to be a few mins late | 20:31 |
| jcastro | no worries, didn't even notice | 20:31 |
| * jcastro scrambles | 20:31 | |
| jcastro | jono: I'm going to start the hangout to test some stuff, just join me whenevs | 20:31 |
| jono | jcastro, did you send me an invite? | 20:49 |
| jcastro | yep | 20:49 |
| jono | jcastro, I dont see it | 20:50 |
| jono | link? | 20:50 |
| jcastro | https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/b34baa77879140959be2a12662468cd0c18111b3?authuser=0&hl=en-US# | 20:50 |
| jcastro | oh I think I invited wrong Bacon | 20:51 |
| jcastro | trying again | 20:51 |
| greg-g | the WRONG BACON?! | 20:53 |
| mhall119 | jcastro must be hanging out with Kevin Bacon again | 20:53 |
| snap-l | Apparently there's a Jono Bac-O-Bits out there. | 21:10 |
| jono | going off IRC so I can focus on my email and get through it without being interrupted | 21:44 |
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