[00:04] pleia2: are we not going to do an arrival/departure list like normal for cab rides and such? [02:16] heh http://massivebacon.com/ [02:43] Gee, it's been tough to get an answer about this https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+question/175885 [03:00] marcavis: the reason you can't add for the one app is because its non-free... I haven't yet found any sort of rules for commercial apps [03:02] Yeah, it's... weird. Why can Braid get a screenshot? Frogatto's engine is free, so we offer more to the free software community, at least [03:03] probably because its commercial, and Frogatto is non-free [03:03] I mean, if it's what it takes, we'll have to consider making it non-free as in beer, in Ubuntu :/ [03:05] It has to be free and open source and no charge or start selling it and pay the required fees [03:08] Right... do you think there is someone I can talk to, that'd reconsider the policy? Even if it probably weren't going to work [03:09] Try starting with dpm [03:09] he may be able to point you in the right direction [03:11] my assumption is that it has to do with the fact that canonical makes money from commercial apps, they get more privs than non-free apps, and free apps get the privs for being free [03:14] Hmm. That does make some sense... Still, it sucks that it conflicts with our business plan of being free-as-in-beer in computers, and commercial on mobile devices [03:15] Either way, thanks! I'll get in touch with dpm (hmm, I only see dpb_ in #ubuntu, guess I'll wait a bit) [03:15] its the weekend [03:16] Ah... most people do go out on weekends :P [03:28] marcavis: he probably won't be in #ubuntu but he should be here during the week :) [03:30] Hmmm, I see [07:13] good morning [08:01] aloha [08:09] hi czajkowski [08:10] dholbach: greetings from Ireland :) [08:10] ah, nice :) [08:10] yup [08:23] Bah, nothing works this mornig :/ [08:25] * czajkowski hands jussi a 12.04 cd working fine here ;) [08:25] czajkowski: sigh, not only 12.04 being evil. [08:26] it's not evil it;s shinny [08:26] although my external monitor doesnt work currently, and that silly printer adding thing that steals focus on the login screen is also evil. [08:26] but anyway, Ill file bugs [08:30] \o/ bugs [08:30] bug 971130 is my current annoyance [08:30] Launchpad bug 971130 in unity "Dash waits before letting user press 'enter'" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/971130 [08:31] popey: spends his evenings videobugging [08:31] which is actually really cool [08:32] heh [08:36] hey, could someone check if their display settings in systems settings crashes system settings? [08:39] doesnt here [08:39] but i only have one internal display [08:40] ok, IM updating now, perhaps its fixed (the bug reporter said I have obsolete packagers) [09:09] obsolete packagers are the worst kind. Worse than superseded sysadmins. [09:23] Daviey: you actually got a smile out of me for that one, well done [10:41] uggh.. another team that seems to just be adding people because they can [10:42] heh [10:42] he's 12 [10:42] yup [10:43] https://launchpad.net/~kendfinger [10:43] that name rings a bell [10:43] hmmm [10:44] g'mornin launchpad lady [10:44] ;-) [10:44] ahhhhh he keeps adding lp stuff to teams and it's in my inbox [10:44] Ubuntu geek squad [12:43] geek squad? [12:45] it's the new team everyone needs to be in :) [13:06] mhall119, are you up for a session on unity-hello during UADW? You'd have the privilege of adding the first session -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAppDeveloperWeek/Timetable ;-) [13:08] dpm: sure! [13:09] mhall119, cool, thanks! Feel free to pick up a slot you like [13:10] * czajkowski goes and pokes people [13:10] anyone else around and up for an Ubuntu App Developer Week session? [13:10] poking folks on lp [13:13] dpm: one to come soon about the LP API [13:13] just coming up with a title [13:14] czajkowski, ooohh thank you! [13:14] * dpm hugs czajkowski [13:14] np [13:14] *hugs* [13:19] * mhall119 hates on YouTube a little bit right now [13:21] awww, why's that mhall119 [13:23] it failed to process my latest .ogv [13:23] I had to figure out how to convert it to something else without losing quality (still lost a little) [13:25] dude! [13:25] use kazam [13:25] why? [13:25] the problem was youtube and ogv [13:25] yes [13:25] not gtk-recordmydesktop [13:25] kazam doesn't record to ogg [13:26] it records to webm or h264 [13:26] both of which _always_ work [13:26] http://youtube.com/user/popeydc <- all of those made with kazam [13:26] ogv should always work [13:26] * mhall119 blames youtube, not ogv [13:26] well it doesnt [13:26] I'm not blaming ogv [13:26] I know [13:26] it's the ffmpeg that youtube uses that has the ieeu [13:26] er issue [13:27] at any rate, it's converted and uploaded now [13:27] just was a pain [13:27] also, kazam is much better [13:27] I'll give it a try next time [13:27] * nigelb does h264 for all the time. [13:27] it can record audio from microphone _and_ internal audio at the same time [13:27] and has a very active developer (who is coming to UDS) [13:27] all other screencasting apps are dead to me :D [13:27] hehe [13:28] you should listent o the bugvideocaster [13:29] the whatwhat? [13:34] some people are podcasters [13:34] videocasters [13:34] others are bugvideocasters :) you talk through your bugs via videos [13:34] :) [13:34] it made sense in my head [13:49] haha [13:49] Laura logic at its best [13:49] * czajkowski munches on brown bread with white pudding [13:49] oh in heaven [13:52] * mhall119 likes Lauralogic [13:53] :) [14:21] "SERIOUSLY, Canonical? You want 20 million users for Ubuntu but YOU'RE PICKING THIS AS THE DEFAULT WALLPAPER? " [14:22] all efforts thwarted by the choice of wallpaper [14:22] ok everyone, it's time to give up and go back home [14:24] jcastro: Didn't you know that default wallpaper is the single biggest factor in consumer electronics purchasing decisions? [14:24] it's not a nice default [14:24] but then again none of them really have been so i don't use the defaul [14:25] most people don't, which is fine. it's great, in fact [14:40] mhall119: did you get your grey icon? [14:40] jcastro, are we already planning UOW? [14:41] I am supposed to be [14:41] but was gone last week [14:41] sure sure [14:41] Ok sure, you can do it if you want [14:41] :) [14:41] hahaha [14:41] I was just wondering if I should add a dev session? [14:41] actually, I was going to ask phillipw for help [14:41] since he was asking for stuff to do [14:41] oh sure [14:41] cool [14:41] is the empty schedule up? You can just grab a slot, I don't care. [14:42] yes [14:42] but is May 1st a good idea? [14:42] it will be a holiday in many places [14:42] is that memorial day? [14:43] May Day / Labour Day [14:43] we can go 2,3,4? [14:43] if May 1st works well for everyone and we get a schedule together we can still do it 1,2,3 [14:44] I ALREADY CHANGED THE WIKI. [14:44] j/k, I can do whatever [14:44] you tell me which you prefer, and I will do that. [14:45] I can do whatever too - any other opinions^? [14:45] * dholbach will take something on May 2nd [14:45] ok, 2-4 it is [14:46] * jcastro fixes the wiki [14:49] * popey tickles jcastro [14:50] dpm, want some ubuntu dev content for UADW? :) [14:52] popey: I know, update, I wanted to hit delete so bad. [14:53] hey jono [14:53] welcome back :) [14:53] hey dholbach! [14:53] thanks! [14:53] good to be back :-) [14:53] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVS3WNt7yRU obligiatory [14:54] \o/ [14:54] Man what a week! [14:56] balloons, lol [14:56] lol.. I saw your april fools post also.. very well done [14:58] I'd love to see Jono give a talk in French [14:58] balloons, thanks! [14:58] dholbach, can you imagine it, lol [14:59] dholbach, all set? [14:59] yep [14:59] let's do it [15:00] dholbach, invite sent [15:11] dpm: do you have a few minutes to jump on a hangout and talk about the new developer docs? [15:12] mhall119, not now sorry, perhaps after my call with Jono in ~45? [15:12] sure [15:14] balloons: can I get you for a few minutes to talk about testing documentation for unity? [15:14] mhall119, yes.. [15:14] maybe in 5? [15:14] balloons: ok, ping me when you're ready [15:18] hey bodhi_zazen [15:22] 'lo cprofitt [15:32] dpm, I'll go ahead and add something [15:32] dpm, all set? [15:32] * dpm hugs dholbach :) [15:32] jono, all set, but a recent kernel update broke my camera again, so voice only on my side [15:32] can't even get the USB cam to work... [15:33] dpm, np [15:33] actually, I'll try the USB cam from the other computer. [15:33] dpm, inv sent [15:33] cool [15:34] ok, joining in... [15:34] I have a bit of a headache - I'll take break, but brb [15:35] dholbach, take care [16:13] dpm, UADW seems to have more slots than UDW :) [16:13] err [16:13] UOW [16:13] too many U*Ws [16:14] mhall119, you know what would be cool :-) [16:14] dholbach, I wasn't too sure how many I should add, I took the same number as UDW [16:14] mhall119, if you could edit the code inside hello-unity and it would dynamically update the things you are showing [16:14] I generally started UADW at 16:00UTC [16:14] jono, you've had the same thought we discussed last week on a call :) [16:15] dpm, btw, I forgot to ask, did you finish your perf review? [16:15] dpm, cool :-) [16:15] jono: yeah, but I'd have to make a local-copy of the files to allow that [16:15] mhall119, gotcha [16:15] mhall119, you could make in /tmp couldn't you? [16:15] also, I'm not sure how to dynamically load/execute code in python [16:15] jono: yeah, probably could [16:15] mhall119, I did this in PyJunior, take a look at the code [16:16] jono, yes (the part for which the deadline was last week). I need to do some peer reviews still, but the next deadline is on the 11th, iirc [16:16] jono: ok [16:16] dpm, cool [16:16] my thing is done, I am safe! [16:16] jcastro, nice! [16:16] I was panicking though, my thing didn't show up at all in the review system [16:16] I had to manually ask HR to add it [16:16] so I ended up doing it on a plane [16:16] same here [16:16] with mere hours left on the deadline! [16:17] and here ;) [16:18] lol [16:22] alright, I'm calling it a day - see you all tomorrow [16:25] * jussi prods at mhall119 [16:25] hey jussi [16:25] heya. did you get the icon? or shall I send it to you? [16:25] for glipper? [16:25] yeah [16:26] I haven't done the modification you said to do, if you can send it to me I'd appreciate it very much [16:26] mhall119: email address please [16:26] <-- at ubuntu.com [16:27] in your mail :) [16:40] jono: I can go today if you want to get me in early, I've been busy. :) [16:40] * jcastro mumbles something about cat away and mice playing [16:40] * jcastro inmates ... asylum [16:40] thanks jussi [16:42] jcastro, will do later, just catching up on a few things [16:42] mhall119, do you mind if we talk tomorrow about the new developer docs instead of today? I'm leaving in a few minutes [16:44] dpm: ok, I also need to talk to you about getting translation/localization docs for unity.u.c [16:45] mhall119, ok, cool, thanks. Let's talk tomorrow when you get online [16:55] balloons, need to move our call a little later [16:56] jcastro, I will do our call after my call with balloons [16:56] jcastro, we will speak at 1.30 Pac [16:56] \o/ [16:56] jono, I'm here all day.. I'll warn you tho, it won't be a quick call [16:56] so budget accordingly [16:58] balloons, np, we can resume after though [16:58] mhall119, all set? [17:01] jono: yup [17:02] mhall119, inv sent === angela-android is now known as nothingspecial [18:09] crowdsourcing a question to you all.. is there an lp report showing the new packages that get added to the archive each day? By new I should say new uploads (aka, new versions of the an existing package, in addition to a new package) [18:12] daniel had something like that I think [18:14] balloons: something like http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/sponsoring-stats/? [18:14] I know I've seen pages that show me things like that.. but zzzzzzzzz [18:17] mhall119, interesting.. I'll have a look around and see if something catches my eye [18:25] balloons: the easiest is to look at the mailing list. [18:26] balloons: there's also https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+queue [18:27] balloons: the changes mailing list looks like this https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/precise-changes/2012-April/date.html [18:28] nigelb, ahh.. the lp queue is cool [18:29] thanks for the ml link.. I knew it was on the ml somewhere as I had seen it, complete with the changelogs [18:29] :) [18:29] i could easily create a feed from that if I wanted.. if one doesn't exist [18:29] balloons: talk to tumbleweed / Laney. [18:29] I think they have scripts to process to the mailing list. [18:30] ohh really? ok, will do thank you! [18:32] :) [19:54] balloons, lets roll [19:54] ah-eye el capitan! [19:55] balloons, inv sent [20:16] balloons: its "Sir Jono" - did you not read his blog post? :P [20:19] Indeed and Sir Jono also speaks a minimum of 3,5 hours about Ubuntu...but you should account for questioning so 4,5 hours! [20:19] jussi: balloons was using his internal title [20:20] mhall119: aahhh [20:21] mhall119: no, you got it all mixed up, 5 mins ubuntu, 1 hour Art of community and the rest * metal... [20:21] :P [20:28] jussi: you underestimate his ability to multi-task and combine interests [20:29] hahQ [20:29] now if you'll excuse me, I have to go back to writing my status report to the tune of a Slayer song === popey_ is now known as popey [20:29] in chapter format [20:31] jcastro, going to be a few mins late [20:31] no worries, didn't even notice [20:31] * jcastro scrambles [20:31] jono: I'm going to start the hangout to test some stuff, just join me whenevs [20:49] jcastro, did you send me an invite? [20:49] yep [20:50] jcastro, I dont see it [20:50] link? [20:50] https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/b34baa77879140959be2a12662468cd0c18111b3?authuser=0&hl=en-US# [20:51] oh I think I invited wrong Bacon [20:51] trying again [20:53] the WRONG BACON?! [20:53] jcastro must be hanging out with Kevin Bacon again [21:10] Apparently there's a Jono Bac-O-Bits out there. [21:44] going off IRC so I can focus on my email and get through it without being interrupted