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dsfsdHi10:17
dsfsdCan my ban be lifted now please?10:17
dsfsdfrom #ubuntu10:17
dsfsdIt's been over 7 days10:17
ikoniahello10:18
ikoniawhy where you banned ?10:18
dsfsdMoaning about unity10:18
dsfsdand using !ops10:18
dsfsdto moan about unity to the ops10:18
ikoniawhy did you do that ?10:18
dsfsdI've already had this discussion10:18
dsfsdwith two other ops10:18
ikoniawell, now have it with me10:18
dsfsdI was told to come back in a week10:19
ikoniaI can see you did it for two days on the run10:19
dsfsdit's been more than a week now10:19
ikoniaso you had multiple warnings and multiple chances to stop, yet you kept doing it10:19
ikoniawhy ?10:19
dsfsdDon't know why10:19
dsfsdbut10:19
dsfsdI was told to come back in a week10:19
dsfsdwhich I have done10:19
dsfsdI haven't evaded my ban or anything10:19
ikoniayes, now you are back and we are discussing it10:19
dsfsdI want to be legit10:19
dsfsdIt's was a stupid move10:19
dsfsdI get that10:19
dsfsd*it was10:19
ikoniayou also sent stupid private messages to users,10:20
ikoniaand pretty offensive things10:20
dsfsdso we're saying perma ban?10:20
dsfsdI was not told this last week10:20
ikoniano10:20
ikoniaI'm asking you what's going on, why you are doing this ?10:20
dsfsdI'm not10:20
dsfsdI was10:20
dsfsdnot anymoe10:20
ikoniait's not just a slip up, you've made a consious effort to cause a problem in the channel, be rude and abusive to people and send vulgar private messages to people10:21
dsfsdFOr which I am sorry10:21
dsfsdhence coming back after over a week10:21
dsfsdwithout causing any other trouble10:21
ikoniaok, I appreciate you are sorry10:21
ikoniabut why did you do it ?10:21
dsfsdI wish I could explain10:21
dsfsdBut I cannot10:21
ikoniaI'd appreciate you trying10:21
dsfsdI don't know why you want me to lie to you10:22
dsfsdWhy does anyone do anything?10:22
ikoniaI don't want you to lie to me10:22
ikoniabut people don't just do what you just did for no reason10:22
dsfsdyes they do10:22
dsfsdpeople troll all the time10:22
dsfsdfor no reason10:22
ikoniaok, so why should I let you back in to potentially do it again ?10:22
ikoniaif you are doing it for no reason, you may well do it again for no reason10:22
dsfsdBecause I've done what was asked of me10:22
dsfsdI went away for a period of tie10:22
dsfsd*time10:22
Myrttisee, people are lazy, and if they don't have a reason, they don't do it10:22
Myrttiso you must have had some reason, boredom, anger, something, or you would have not done it10:23
dsfsdI guess all three maybe played a part10:23
dsfsdI don't know10:23
dsfsdbut what I do knwo is10:23
dsfsdremorse10:23
dsfsdI went away for over a week as requested10:23
ikoniaok, I'll give it a shot, I'll remove the ban10:23
dsfsdThanks you10:23
ikoniabe very aware, no further issues will be tollerated in the slightest10:23
ikoniaok, the bans been removed, you can join #ubuntu10:24
ikoniadsfsd: you can now leave this channel10:25
ikonianeedsupport: hi, thanks for joining11:48
ikoniamydogsnameisrudy: do you need something ?11:49
needsupporti talked with heartsmagic ( ubuntu turkeys author... or firstman )11:49
ikonianeedsupport: ok - wait a moment11:49
ikonianeedsupport: I need to make something clear to you11:49
needsupporthe saying lie... he trying lie politics11:49
ikonianeedsupport: 1.) #ubuntu is not a channel for you to complain about ubuntu-tr. It is a technical support channel. Do you understand that yes/no11:50
needsupportwhere i can talk for localized support(?) web site problems11:50
needsupportwho is chairman _11:50
needsupport?11:50
ikonianeedsupport: no - please respond11:50
needsupportyes11:50
needsupportwho is directing localized teams ?11:51
ikonianeedsupport: do you understand that #ubuntu is not for you to complain about Ubuntu-tr ?11:51
needsupportok11:51
ikonianeedsupport: so you will not join #ubuntu again and start complaining about ubuntu-tr yes/no11:52
elkyneedsupport, talk to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil about ubuntu-tr. #ubuntu is for technical support only. Ok?11:54
pangolinthat went as well as expected11:57
ikoniahe'll be back later11:57
ikoniafrom what I can gather he's a troll, who trolled too often and got banned11:57
ikonia(from the forum)11:58
elkyheh12:03
bazhang<krod2389> sacarlson: I wouldn't use the Google DNS server, you become part of their botnet14:30
bazhangwhat?14:30
bazhanghe's just telling lies afaict14:34
ZarroBoogsbazhang: spreadking FUD about chromium too.14:34
bazhangZarroBoogs, aha14:34
bazhangthere were some others14:47
bazhangthanks mneptok14:47
mneptokkrod2389: do you have any meaningful input for the channel?14:47
mneptok(we can try this again)14:47
krod2389Hello14:49
krod2389I had already been assisting noobs earlier14:49
krod2389That should be clear14:49
mneptokand?14:49
krod2389and what?14:49
mneptokwhat does helping a couple people have to do with repeated offtopic non-sequiturs?14:49
krod2389Keep up... you asked "do you have any meaningful input for the channel?".14:50
krod2389Helping people == meaningful input14:50
mneptokOK, so try this.14:50
mneptokgo to a very fancy restaurant.14:50
mneptokbuy a $500 dinner.14:50
krod2389Which one?14:50
mneptokthen remove your pants and run around screaming.14:51
mneptoksee if, " but i SPENT MONEY!" helps you.14:51
krod2389A better analogy would be going to a restaurant, doing their washing up for free, *then* removing your pants, but I see your point14:51
mneptoknow, you can be helpful and on-topic in #ubuntu, or not.14:51
mneptokup to you.14:51
krod2389Most definitely14:52
mneptokbanned? or on-topic? which do you choose?14:52
krod2389I shall rigorously stick to the prescribed topics from now on14:53
mneptok!coc14:53
ubottuThe Ubuntu Code of Conduct is a community etiquette document to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere, and can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/ | For information on how to electronically sign the CoC, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SigningCodeofConduct14:53
mneptok!guidelines14:53
ubottuThe guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines14:53
mneptokread those, if you please.14:53
krod2389I've seen it before14:54
mneptokso you'll adhere to those guidelines?14:54
krod2389Yes14:54
mneptokbecause if not, you will be banned again. and then it will not so easily be removed by just a promise.14:55
krod2389*scary music*14:55
mneptok'zackly.14:55
krod2389Ok, understood14:55
mneptoksmashing.14:55
mneptokyou repeat "dunh dunh DUUUUUUNNNNNNHHHHH" to yourself while i unban you14:55
mneptokyou can stop repeating, and try to re /join14:56
krod2389Already done, thanks14:57
mneptokremember that scary music.14:57
bazhang* Pseudoephedrine (~pseudo@1.148.94.46) has left #ubuntu15:08
bazhangforward?15:08
ZarroBoogsgo for it15:10
* mneptok points krod2389 at this channel's /topic15:16
krod2389Was just looking at the list of ops so I know who not to offend in future15:17
mneptoktry not offending anyone?15:17
ZarroBoogsI guess asking them not to offend anyone is too much to ask for?15:17
bazhangZarroBoogs, that look okay?15:18
bazhang *!*@1.148.94.46$#ubuntu-ops15:18
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bazhang@mark #ubuntu dekatch cursing , then quit15:40
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bazhangis firestarter still actively developed and maintained? I thought ufw was the way to go15:47
ikoniafirestarter is a different product, nothing to do with ubuntu15:50
ikoniaso it's still active15:50
mneptoklatest stable release is 2005. development discontinued. - wpedia15:52
ZarroBoogsaye. I thought that was why we dropped it too.15:54
ikoniareally, so it's totally dead now ?15:54
ikoniahttp://www.fs-security.com/docs.php15:55
ikoniadocumentation was updated in 201015:55
ikonia1.03 is still 2005 though which is latest stable build15:57
bazhangwonder why remotectrl is recommending it in #ubuntu15:58
ikoniaits still in the repos15:58
ikoniasome people like it15:58
bazhangok15:58
ikoniaI hate it, I think it's a bad tool15:58
ikonia!info firestarter15:58
ubottufirestarter (source: firestarter): GTK program for managing and observing your firewall. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.3-10 (oneiric), package size 389 kB, installed size 1964 kB15:58
bazhangI recall from years ago guarddog and firestarter15:58
popeyit also has a useful internet sharing feature that I've not seen done as easily elsewhere16:09
ikoniapopey: that seems to be what most of the positive reviews on the web are for16:11
popeyif someone else made an "internet connection sharing" app, I'm sure people would use it16:13
ubottuIn ubottu, Daskreech said: !kubuntu is kubuntu is an Ubuntu flavour using KDE Software and the beautiful KDE  Plasma Workspaces.  See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support join  #kubuntu - See also !kde16:17
ubottuIn ubottu, Daskreech said: kde is KDE (http://kde.org) is an open community makeing beautiful software  including the Plasma desktop.  To install from Ubuntu: << sudo apt-get install  kubuntu-desktop >>, or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . See  http://kubuntu.org for more information.16:18
DaskreechHello16:18
bazhanghi16:18
Daskreechrequesting the two factoids for Kubuntu and kde be updated16:18
ikoniafrom what to what ?16:20
ikoniawhich factoids ?16:20
ikoniaoh, I see them16:21
ikonia!kde16:21
ubottuKDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . See http://kubuntu.org for more information.16:21
Daskreechand kubuntu16:21
ikoniathe !kde one is fine as it is from what I can see16:21
ikonia!kubuntu16:21
ubottukubuntu is Ubuntu with the KDE Software Compilation instead of !Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support join #kubuntu - See also !kde16:21
ikoniaI don't see anything wrong with what's thre16:22
ikoniathere16:22
DaskreechRiddel asked for it to be updated16:22
DaskreechI'm just checking if he wants making or makeing for the update for !kde :)16:22
ikoniahe asked for it to be improved16:22
ikoniawell, he said "we can improve that factoid"16:22
ikoniaI don't see a problem with what's there16:23
Daskreechikonia: And he gave me the improvements16:23
Daskreechikonia: can you see a problem with the improvements?16:23
ikoniano, but I see no reason to change them16:24
ikoniaI'll just leave it as it is16:24
MyrttiI can see the text is different but I can't see any huge improvement, could you explain the reasoning, Daskreech?16:25
tsimpsonI'd rather not see "flavour" in there, and I'd remove the "beautiful" as I don't think it's appropriate to store an opinion on a subjective thing like UI design in the bot16:26
LjLif i were on wikipedia... yes, exactly16:26
LjLi'm not on wikipedia, so weasel words might be ok, but i still don't find them so :P16:26
Riddellhi, Daskreech is wanting to update the factoids for Kubuntu and KDE to fix various innaccuracies in them, why can't he do so?16:28
tsimpsonRiddell: we were discussing it just before you joined16:29
ikoniaRiddell: he said you gave him the words, so it maybe better if you just say what you want16:29
tsimpsonRiddell: I was just commenting that I'm not sure on the word "flavour" referring to Kubuntu, I'd like to hear your opinion on that16:30
Riddelltsimpson: flavour is the correct word as agreed by skeat and the release team16:31
macoone point on changing it is that KDE does refer nowadays to the community. the software made by KDE has its own names, and the collective bundle of the main software is the "KDE Sofware Collection"16:31
tsimpsonand I don't really like the "beautiful" word in there, as it's an option, and we like to keep everything as neutral as possible in the bot16:31
Riddellget rid of it then16:31
tsimpsonRiddell: I was waiting to hear what Daskreech's view was before I did anything16:32
Riddellmaco: KDE SC isn't a useful term for end users, it's just a product of the release process16:32
macoRiddell: yeah...but "KDE is the community that makes the software used in Kubuntu, such as the Plasma desktop"16:33
Riddellmaco: that's fine16:34
Riddelltsimpson: so can we update them?16:37
Daskreechtsimpson: I don't have a problem with dropping the beuatiful either16:39
Daskreecheye of the beholder and all that16:39
tsimpson!no kubuntu is <reply> Kubuntu is the Ubuntu flavour using KDE Software and the KDE Plasma Workspaces.  See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support join  #kubuntu - See also !kde16:39
ubottuI'll remember that tsimpson16:39
tsimpson!no kde is <reply> KDE (http://kde.org) is an open community that creates and maintains software including the Plasma desktop.  To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install  kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . See  http://kubuntu.org for more information.16:40
ubottuI'll remember that tsimpson16:40
tsimpsonthat should do it, anything else you can see that needs changing?16:40
Daskreechthank you :)16:41
DaskreechRe-reading16:41
tsimpson!kubuntu16:41
ubottuKubuntu is the Ubuntu flavour using KDE Software and the KDE Plasma Workspaces.  See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support join  #kubuntu - See also !kde16:41
tsimpson!kde16:41
ubottuKDE (http://kde.org) is an open community that creates and maintains software including the Plasma desktop.  To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install  kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . See  http://kubuntu.org for more information.16:41
tsimpson(just so we can see what the bot will actually show)16:41
DaskreechRiddell: Looks good to me16:42
Riddelllovely thanks16:43
DaskreechThanks all :)16:44
tsimpsonno problem Daskreech :)16:44
MatrixiumnOop17:00
Matrixiumn*Oops17:00
bazhanggot dekatch in PM after his cursing and quit (ie when he rejoined)17:03
bazhangclassroom is lars?18:19
bazhangsame help me! without actually asking aquestion18:20
bazhangaugh18:20
Myrttipossibly, but not positively18:20
Staffponyclassroom was just slightly odd in #ubuntu-de (huge paste, of course horrible german) ... might want to have an eye on that18:20
Myrttiwe are on it like hawks18:21
* Myrtti huggles Staffpony 18:21
Staffponythought so, that's why I joined :)  Haihai Myrtti   *huggles*18:21
Myrttiwant some tea?18:21
Staffponyyes please, something with fruits if you have18:21
bazhangI just kicked someone on gateway the other day who was the exact same18:21
bazhangso he's ban evading at the least18:22
ikoniawell, it maynot be Lars, Lars can't help himself to respond to "hi Lars" with "who is Lars?"18:22
StaffponyI am quite sure he is not Lars, his german is horrible.18:23
MyrttiEnglish isn't any better18:23
Myrttismells like a troll18:25
Myrttiacts like a troll18:27
bazhang700gb iso18:28
bazhangthat unity is getting bloated18:28
ubottuIn #ubuntu, imachine said: ubottu, most def one '?' is enough18:28
mneptokif coming to IRC with thinks evading, to fake that skills with language is simples.18:32
bazhanghehe18:33
Staffponywell, I just had to boot him off18:38
Staffponyin the german channel18:38
Myrttimneptok: have you been to UK recently?18:38
bazhangalready ban evading in #ubuntu18:38
mneptokMyrtti: not that i know of. but i have huge memory gaps. why?18:39
Myrttimneptok: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ust9YBlEfY18:40
mneptokis explain the droppings with insurance card in envelope insides.18:42
Myrttisimples.18:43
mneptokMyrtti: am thinking. from now going i am mostly speak to you of this styles.18:47
Myrttiaaaa a resident of meerkovo.18:47
mneptokno. only is pronouncing "Meerkovo." spelled is "Mjrkvo"18:48
Tm_Tpony?18:55
Staffponyyes?18:56
Myrttiwe also have giraffes, unicorns and hedgehogs in staff.18:58
MyrttiI think I'm a ring seal myself.18:58
Myrttiarp arp.18:58
Myrttisyn syn.18:58
* Staffpony hands Myrtti a ball18:58
StaffponyMyrtti: probably a snow seal currently ;(18:58
Tm_Ttime to upload one pic from phone, I'd say19:04
Staffponybleh19:04
Staffponyit was Lars19:04
Staffponyclassroom, that is. He was also in some debian channels19:04
bazhangthanks Staffpony19:06
StaffponyYou're welcome19:07
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Jordan_Upopey: RE: Easy internet sharing see network-manager: http://magazine.redhat.com/2008/10/16/video-fedora-10-connection-sharing/20:47
popeyJordan_U: that only fulfils one use case20:49
Jordan_Upopey: What other use cases should it fulfil?20:50
popeysharing the other way, wireless to wired, and wired to wired20:51
Jordan_Upopey: Network-manager supports this. You simply set the interface you want to share to as "Shared".20:51
Jordan_UI've done it all ways except wired to wired.20:52
popeywhere?20:52
Jordan_Upopey: nm-connection-editor20:52
popeyyup, i see no 'Shared' options20:53
StaffRingedSealI've shared connection with Network-Manager20:54
popeywhere?20:54
StaffRingedSealgo into ipv4 settings and change dhcp/static to shared20:54
popeyaha!20:55
Jordan_Uhttp://jordanu.dyndns.org/tmp/Screenshot%20from%202012-04-02%2013:54:36.png20:55
* popey will have a play with that thanks20:55
StaffRingedSealit was great when we were playing with nanode20:55
Jordan_Upopey: You're welcome.20:55
StaffRingedSeal20:57
StaffRingedSealarp arp.20:57

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