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SilouanJust installed Ubuntu 11.10. I see the new inerface but I can't find a Terminal icon, or even a way to pull up the list of installed apps. Isn't terminal/console/shell the very first thing any user will try to run?  I can't imagine why it's missing. Is my install broken or am I missing something obvious?02:10
bluefroghud-service is eating more and more RAM as time goes by06:28
bluefrogstarts at 10 meg ish . two days after am at 800 meg.06:28
g0twigmhall119: morning08:29
ryeHello, i still try to get a bit of attention to bug #943851 - here's the easy browser test case - http://people.canonical.com/~roman.yepishev/blur.html08:30
ubot5Launchpad bug 943851 in Unity Distro Priority "[unity 5.6] Pressing Alts steals focus from current widget, cannot compose characters with AltGr" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/94385108:30
ryeI wonder whether I should file a new bug since the issue in the original one seems to be fixed partially, but for e.g. users of Picasa this means that renaming the photo is not possible08:57
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gotwigjey10:21
gotwigmhall119: jo10:21
gotwigThe gourmet recipe manager scope is not working partialy :-)!10:21
gotwig"now" :X10:22
didrockstsdgeos: you should ping barry on #ubuntu-devel (in US time), he's getting the alt issue a lot as an emacs user10:32
tsdgeostx for the input10:33
didrockstsdgeos: btw, I think you got the message by Gerry, but we try to have a RC for Friday10:33
tsdgeosyes10:33
didrockstsdgeos: so ensure that every branches are merged by there10:33
didrockstsdgeos: and as well the Alt configuration key :)10:33
tsdgeosdidrocks: i'm on holiday, so they'll be done for thursday10:33
didrockstsdgeos: even better :-)10:34
tsdgeosholiday + on friday10:34
tsdgeosdidrocks: you doing the ctrl+super instead of super?10:35
didrockstsdgeos: yeah, there is no need of any action on your side10:35
didrockstsdgeos: just metacity gconf keys for 2d10:35
tsdgeosok10:35
didrockstsdgeos: just ensure that for alt configuration, you are using the same *gconf* key than 3D10:36
didrockstsdgeos: it's not really an option for exposing it to g-c-c10:36
tsdgeosdidrocks: is it not?10:36
didrockstsdgeos: no, that's what I hilighted that to greyback10:36
didrockstsdgeos: the shortcut panel dialog can only work with gconf10:36
tsdgeosso https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/969256 won't happen then?10:37
ubot5Ubuntu bug 969256 in Ayatana Design "Keyboard shortcuts - The HUD keyboard shortcut should be configurable" [Critical,Triaged]10:37
didrockstsdgeos: it will, I'm tweaking g-c-c to make "alt" (which is ignored right now) recognized10:37
didrockstsdgeos: but for the 2d side, you need to read the same compiz gconf key than 3d10:37
tsdgeosok, do you happen to know which key is it?10:38
didrockssure one sec10:38
didrockstsdgeos: /apps/compiz-1/plugins/unityshell/screen0/options/show_hud the default is "<Alt>"10:39
tsdgeostx10:39
didrockstsdgeos: you should ship an override file in case compiz isn't installed/started10:39
didrockstsdgeos: if you have issues with that, I can help :)10:40
tsdgeosi got lost there yes10:40
tsdgeoshave no idea of what an override file is10:40
tsdgeosso i'd appreciate some pointers10:40
didrockstsdgeos: once you get the patch proposed, I'll do it :)10:40
didrocksno worry10:40
tsdgeosok10:40
gotwighow may I convert an image object in such a  way that I can acess it from python via its URI/URL ? http://bpaste.net/show/26339/10:46
jmlEvery time I press Super-Up to maximize I get the keybinding screen come up.  It doesn't seem to go away until I tap Super again to bring up the dash and then tap Super again to dismiss it. Very frustrating.10:49
tsdgeosdidrocks: do you know where can i read the syntax that key value is going to be saved?10:54
ryedidrocks: hi and sorry to disturb again regarding compose/alt key - are you using a compose-enabled keyboard?10:58
gotwigjml: reported it?10:59
jmlgotwig: not yet11:01
gotwigjml: why not11:01
didrockstsdgeos: it's already saved on your system, it's like any other keys11:01
jmlgotwig: because I've had a poor experience filing bugs against unity in the past.11:02
didrocksrye: I have an alt key on my machine, no compose11:02
tsdgeosdidrocks: sure, but we do not parse any of the gsettings key settings in unity-2d, so i need to parse it11:02
gotwigjml: developing is easier ;) ?11:02
didrockstsdgeos: <Alt> is the default, if there are other values, it's classical keyshortcut schema like <Control><Alt>… or <Super>l11:03
tsdgeosdidrocks: i saw some Primary there, you know what it means?11:03
jmlgotwig: sorry, I don't get the jok.e.11:03
gotwigjml: np, I am a poor german student who is unable to speak english ^^11:04
didrockstsdgeos: right, treat Primary as Control11:04
tsdgeosok11:04
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ryedidrocks: then it is not seen, so now when hud is enabled and bound to alt key then http://people.canonical.com/~roman.yepishev/blur.html test fails, does anybody here (from unity team) use compose key?11:10
didrocksrye: not sure, let's the real upstream team answering to that? ^11:12
ryegord: hi, i am searching for somebody from unity team to see http://people.canonical.com/~roman.yepishev/blur.html - with altgr as compose, this looks like bug #943851 but in this case the focus is not stolen completely, only for a tiny fraction of second, which still causes the blur event11:17
ubot5Launchpad bug 943851 in Unity Distro Priority "[unity 5.6] Pressing Alts steals focus from current widget, cannot compose characters with AltGr" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/94385111:17
gordrye, seems like its something in the compiz keyhandling, can you open a new bug for that?11:24
ryegord: ok, great!11:24
gordta#11:24
gotwigany lens/scope developers here?11:24
snadgeyou guys support unity2d in here?11:32
snadgetrying to figure out why i can play minecraft at 120fps in gnome classic (no effects)11:32
snadgebut with unity2d .. its 20fps11:32
snadgeon the new hd7870 card i just bought11:33
snadgeok im just going to drink alcohol11:38
gotwigsnadge: yo11:44
gotwigsnadge: couse java sucks11:44
mhr3gotwig, trouble with lenses?11:49
gotwigmhr3: somehow :D!11:50
gotwigmhr3: can you help?11:50
mhr3we won't know unless you ask ;)11:50
gotwigmhr3: how may I convert an image object in such a  way that I can acess it from python via its URI/URL ? http://bpaste.net/show/26339/11:50
gotwigalready asked11:50
gotwigif that works11:51
gotwigmy scope would  finaly work completly...11:51
gotwigfor gourmet recipe manager11:51
gotwigmhr3: are I am able to give it the function as a image object? not as an URI/URL?11:51
mhr3gotwig, like you're trying to pack the entire image data in the uri?11:51
gotwigmhr3: what you mean11:52
gotwighyperair: in 'icon' is blob code for the image11:52
gotwighups11:52
gotwigmhr3: but model.append expects an URI/URL for the icon11:53
mhr3gotwig, it actually wants the string GIcon.to_string() given you11:53
mhr3gives*11:53
gotwig?11:55
gotwigmhr3: so what I have to do ;)11:55
mhr3gotwig, so what do you have as input again?11:56
mhr3cause if you have your own pixbuf you can't really send that over (unless you save it to a file and pass that file's uri)11:56
gotwigmhr3: I got the BLOB code from sqlite3.... that I saved into "icon"11:57
gotwigbut if I save it into a file11:57
gotwigor better: files11:57
gotwigits not nice11:57
gotwigand it uses filesystem11:57
gotwigdont wanna use that11:58
gotwigits dirty11:58
mhr3yep, but to support themed icons and stuff it works this way11:58
mhr3theoretically you should be able to pass a data: uri (with base64 encoded raw data) but i don't think unity supports that11:58
mhr3gord, i suppose noone really tried that, right ^^?11:59
gordpretty sure that wouldn't work and i wouldn't particularly want to support it without a good reason, means its harder to cache12:01
gordwe do accept uri's to practically anywhere including the net though, anything that gio supports12:01
mhr3gotwig, so easy, implement a new gvfs module that will handle your special my-lens-image-data: uris ;)12:02
mhr3otherwise save to a tmp file12:03
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gordsurely the icons are coming from somewhere sane right? either the web or somewhere on the system12:04
gordso just link to those12:04
gotwigmhr3: I prefer gvfs I think12:05
gotwigmhr3: so how again xD?12:06
seb128gord, is the hud entry text support to be "type a command"?12:06
gordseb128, "Type your command"?12:06
seb128support->supposed12:06
seb128ups, yes12:06
gordas far as i am aware yeah12:06
seb128gord, right, is that correct?12:06
seb128ok, "command" seems a bit weird12:07
mhr3btw "make me a sandwich" doesn't work12:07
gordmight want to check with JohnLea just in-case12:07
gotwigmhr3: in my lens/scope?12:07
seb128JohnLea, is the HUD really dealing with "commands"?12:07
gotwigmhr3: report that bug ! D:12:07
mhr3gotwig, not sure which project does it affect :P12:07
gotwigmhr3: my one!!12:07
gordseb128, in the unix sense? no, in the human language sense? yes12:07
gotwigmhr3: I develop cooking lens, you know12:07
gord"blur my image" is a command12:07
mhr3gotwig, ooooh :)12:08
gotwigmhr3: https://bugs.launchpad.net/lens-cooking12:08
seb128gord, JohnLea: well it's confusing that it uses the same word than alt-f2 for different things12:08
seb128gord, command -> action maybe?12:08
gotwigmhr3: but it works already :D12:08
gordseb128, maybe, i don't really make these decisions ;) i just code the thing12:08
seb128gord, yeah, I was just wondering if it's wanted or a bug, is there a design document for the HUD?12:09
gotwigmhr3: awesome ;) ?12:09
mhr3gotwig, :)12:10
gotwigmhr3: so can you help me with gvfs?12:10
gotwigmhr3: lol my mother just asked me " do you want a sandwich " lol12:10
gotwigmhr3: awesome, it communicates with real life objects :D!^^ (xD)12:11
mhr3gotwig, i was joking, that would be serious undertaking12:11
gotwigmhr3: gvfs ?12:11
mhr3yes12:11
gotwigm333h12:12
gotwiggord: so you also dont know how :X ?12:12
gotwiggord: I know that you can past image data over url's directly, but unity does not support it :X ?12:13
gotwig"pass"12:13
gordseb128, not sure off hand atm12:13
mhr3gotwig, what i suggest is md5-summing the image data and saving a file with the md5 name into tmp, that way unity can do proper caching as least12:13
gordgotwig, mhr3 was kidding when he said make a gvfs extension, *glare*12:13
gotwigmhr3, gord: see, I am a n00b12:15
gotwigI think thats the wrong channel for me xD12:15
gotwigmhr3: and that sounds also likke a joke for me, couse I dont like to use /tmp for temporary data ;P12:16
mhr3gotwig, read what you just said and you'll see the irony :)12:17
gotwigmhr3: :D12:17
gotwigmhr3: that md5-summing would be a lot of work, righ?12:18
gotwig"right"12:18
mhr3computationally? yes12:18
mhr3but you're using python... it'd be like <10lines of code12:19
gotwig[13:58] <mhr3> theoretically you should be able to pass a data: uri (with base64 encoded raw data) but i don't think unity supports that12:20
gotwiggoing to test that12:20
mhr3dont bother, it won't work12:21
snadgewait.. what.. why does java sucks if gnome desktop classic.. can get 120fps12:21
snadgebut unity2d does 20fps12:21
gotwigTypeError: 'unicode' object is not callable12:21
gotwig:X12:21
gotwigsnadge: becouse it always sucks, look at android12:22
snadgei understand why unity/compiz sucks.. it always has12:22
gotwigsnadge: yes?12:22
snadgebut i thought unity2d was supposed to not be composited.. and hence be faster12:22
snadgei think i might have uncovered a bug.. or a performance regression anyway12:22
gordsnadge, if you have the hardware it enables composite mode in metacity12:22
gordsnadge, iirc there is a gsettings key to turn it off, but i don't know it off hand12:23
snadgeahh.. fail12:23
snadgethat explains why gnome classic no effects.. is faster12:23
snadgeits obviously turned off by default12:23
snadgeits not just faster.. its 6 times faster :p12:23
snadgei think compositing should be disabled by default in unity2d12:24
snadgethe reason people run unity2d.. is because compositing sucks balls12:24
snadgeotherwise they'd just run unity12:24
snadgeyou should have to go out of your way to turn it on.. not the other way around ;)12:25
zgregunity-2d sort of requires compositing to look right, though12:28
snadgewell.. it was enabled on my last card hd477012:28
snadgeand i was getting 30fps in minecraft.. perfectly playable12:29
snadgeso i went out and bought a hd7870.. which should kick its ass12:29
snadgeloaded minecraft.. 20fps12:29
snadgeit was the biggest trollolol ever12:29
zgregare you using fglrx?12:29
snadgeyes12:29
zgreghere's your problem :)12:29
snadgebefore i launched a nuke at amd.. i thought.. i'll try using gnome classic (no effects) just for kicks12:30
snadgeload minecraft.. 120fps12:30
snadgewtf12:30
zgreghave you tried regular unity?12:31
snadgein unity/compiz.. 60-80fps12:31
snadgeyeah12:31
snadgeso unity2d is especially slow for some unknown reason12:31
zgregcompositing shouldn't affect performance that much on modern gpus12:31
zgregand it doesn't on nvidia or intel hardware, so... it's probably a driver issue12:31
snadgewell fglrx on my over 2 year old hd4770.. is faster12:32
snadgeso yeah.. id say it is a driver issue12:32
snadgei hate fglrx so much.. why did i buy this card.. sigh12:35
snadgei just need to figure out how to turn compositing off in unity2d at least12:35
tsdgeosdidrocks: do you know who implemented the barrier stuff in X?12:37
didrockstsdgeos: RAOF did12:38
gotwigmhr3: is ubuntu part of google code of summer :X?12:39
tsdgeosdidrocks: australia? :-/12:39
didrockstsdgeos: right12:39
didrockstsdgeos: he should be responsive to IRC blacklog or email though12:40
tsdgeosdidrocks: seems that the barrier stuff is incompatible with NX, someone reported it against unity-2d, should i reassign the bug to a different product?12:40
didrockstsdgeos: yes please do :) xorg-server should be what you are looking for12:40
mhr3gotwig, dunno really12:41
gotwigmhr3: they wouldnt support me I think in developing 20 lenses & scopes for unity xD?12:42
zgregsnadge: get gconf-editor, and switch it off in /apps/metacity/12:43
gotwignope12:43
zgregsnadge: but prepare for visual glitches12:43
gotwiglmfao : http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/google/gsoc2012/abiword >> read "Additional Requirements" -- captcha code for testing if the paricipant is a "real" developer12:45
gotwignot in real12:45
JohnLeagord, seb128; what was the question?12:46
snadgezgreg: it is off :(12:46
zgreggotwig: that's pretty useful. apparently two years ago some people sent their bogus applications to ALL orgs12:47
snadgeit seems it cant be turned off in the latest version.. sigh12:47
gotwigzgreg: lol?12:47
seb128JohnLea, is "type your command" the right wording for the HUD entry?12:47
gotwigzgreg: ok12:47
seb128JohnLea, "command" is the same vocabulary used by alt-f2 so I was wondering12:48
zgreggotwig: carol told me, at least :)12:48
gotwigzgreg: I think I am not good enough ^^12:48
zgregwhy?12:49
snadgeok.. if i install unity-2d-settings .. i can turn it off12:49
zgregI participated last year12:49
zgregIf you have a solid concept and well-written application, the chances that you'll get chosen are pretty good12:49
zgregmost applications are crap from what I've seen12:49
snadgeoh wow.. unity2d still supports dodge windows12:51
snadgethats racist!12:51
gotwigzgreg: have you developed in C(++)?12:53
zgregin C, but programming language shouldn't really matter12:54
gotwigzgreg: I think I dont have the expiriennce12:55
gotwigzgreg: I am in my first semester, and I am at a college12:55
gotwigand I dont make a PHD or something like that. In Germany theres an other name for such stuff12:55
gotwigand I am under 18 ^^12:55
zgregI think you must be 18, anyway12:56
zgreghow about next year?12:56
gotwigzgreg: maybe ^^12:56
gotwigzgreg: some money wouldnt be bad :P private college is not cheap ;)12:56
gotwigand I love to develop OSS12:56
gotwigok13:00
gotwigmhr3: do you have instructions how to cache that thing ad md5, etc. :X13:00
gotwigmhr3: sounds hard, and not clean13:00
davidcallegotwig, ping13:07
JohnLeaseb128; maybe "What would you like to do?" might be better?13:08
seb128JohnLea, I just wanted to know if it was supposed to be the same wording that alt-f2 or a bug, if that's what was in the spec I would keep it for this cycle, it's late to change strings13:09
seb128JohnLea, I just didn't find a spec so I couldn't verify if that was a bug or not13:09
gotwigdavidcalle: huh ?13:14
davidcallegotwig, I've missed your question earlier, what was it?13:15
mhall119racarr: ping13:21
gotwigdavidcalle: how may I convert an image object in such a  way that I can acess it from python via its URI/URL ? http://bpaste.net/show/26339/13:32
gotwigbtw. the mime type that gets defined here : model.append(uri, icon, 0, "text/html", title, comment, uri)  , for which part is that the mime type? for what file (stream) ?13:33
mhall119gotwig: it's the mime-type for the result item itself.  If you're not specifically handling what happens when a user clicks on it, Unity uses the mime-type to determine which app to open it in13:35
gotwigoh ok13:35
gotwigmhall119: hello, btw ^^13:35
davidcallegotwig, you have to save it in a file.13:36
gotwigdavidcalle: nooo :/13:36
gotwigdavidcalle: there are data url's13:37
davidcallegotwig, yeah, but I've tried and Unity doesn't work with it. You need to store it before passing to Unity.13:37
gotwigdavidcalle: may I see your code?13:38
davidcallehttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~davidc3/onehundredscopes/cities-precise/view/head:/src/unity-scope-cities#L13613:39
mhall119hi gotwig :)13:40
davidcallegotwig, it's not the same use case, but I was generating an image with Python and was trying to use it directly.13:40
gotwigdavidcalle: so theres no way :X13:40
mhall119you can use an image from a URL13:40
gotwigdavidcalle: but caching theme is not so good, right. becouse you have to use the filesystem.. etc.13:40
gotwigmhall119: I know :-)13:41
gotwig"them"13:41
davidcallegotwig, well, where does the image data come from?13:41
gotwigdavidcalle: sqlite3 column13:42
mhall119it's a blob in sqlite?13:42
gotwigmhall119: yes13:43
gotwigwhen unity loads the image one time, it does not reload it, right?13:44
mhall119I believe it keeps a cache somewhere, yes13:44
davidcallegotwig, you should look into PIL (Python Image Lib), I'm pretty sure there is something for you. But you will need to have a file stored somewhere at some point for Unity.13:44
gotwigdavidcalle: only just one file? ok13:45
davidcallegotwig, it keeps a cache.13:45
gotwigcould this be reported as a bug for unity?13:45
davidcallegotwig, yes it could, but I believe it would make things more difficult to cache on Unity side.13:47
davidcallegord, ping13:47
gotwigis gord a unity developer?13:47
gotwig*main*13:47
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gorddavidcalle, hey whats up13:48
gordgotwig, yup he is13:48
gotwiggord: gotta add you as friend, lol13:49
davidcallegotwig, gord is one of the greatest Unity dev of all time. Btw : https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/878015 :P13:49
ubot5Ubuntu bug 878015 in unity (Ubuntu) "Non square icons don't fill result tiles as much as they should" [Medium,Triaged]13:49
gordargh geez i completely forgot about that, let me do that now :)13:49
davidcalleThanks a lot :)13:50
gotwigdavidcalle: hope I am able to get  that working with PIL in  one day;P13:51
gotwigdavidcalle: hm, I dont even know what mime type that BLOB haas13:53
davidcallegotwig, you don't need to care about it. Try this http://paste.ubuntu.com/911492/13:58
gotwigdavidcalle: hm, not so easy14:02
davidcallegotwig, not working?14:03
gotwigdavidcalle: wait I paste. I have to eat soon14:03
davidcallegotwig, ok :)14:03
gotwigdavidcalle: birthday of my mum :D14:03
gotwigdavidcalle: is that right ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/911502/14:04
davidcallegotwig, don't make her wait because of silly Python ;)14:04
gotwigdavidcalle: shes here ^^14:04
gotwigand python is not silly D14:05
davidcallegotwig, hmm... I'm pretty sure Unity is going to be confused about every icons having the same name. But worth trying.14:06
gotwigdavidcalle: it does not work  :P14:06
gotwigdavidcalle: http://paste.ubuntu.com/911504/14:07
davidcallegotwig, then, I'm afraid you are going to need to dig a little into PIL documentation :P14:08
gotwigback14:14
gotwigafter timeout14:14
gotwigdavidcalle: have you replied something..?14:14
davidcalle" gotwig, then, I'm afraid you are going to need to dig a little into PIL documentation :P"14:15
gotwigdavidcalle: oh14:15
gotwigdavidcalle: does my code look right?14:16
davidcallegotwig, yep14:16
davidcallegotwig, but PIL doesn't like your data. I'm pretty sure you will find someone in the #python room that will have some experience with it.14:17
gotwigdavidcalle: yeah they know me good xD14:17
davidcalleHehe14:17
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gorddavidcalle, http://gordallott.com/share/Screenshot%20from%202012-04-02%2016:29:31.png :)15:32
gotwighey15:33
gotwigdavidcalle: works somehow :-)15:33
davidcallegord, YES :D15:33
gotwigdavidcalle: can you help me with my loop :D?15:33
gotwigonly one recipe gets shown15:33
davidcallegotwig, ok. Con you push your branch somewhere? I don't have the time right now, I'm still at work, but maybe in an hour or so.15:34
davidcallegord, thanks man :)15:35
gotwigdavidcalle: oh ok15:35
gotwiggord: can you help?15:35
gordgotwig, mhr3 might be able to help a little better in that area :)15:40
mhr3gord, :-O... /me wants such big thumbnails15:40
Adri2000Cimi: SRU would be good for bug #705653 (if it's late for precise release), but first: do you have a fix yet? :) (or is someone working on it?)15:41
ubot5Launchpad bug 705653 in unity (Ubuntu) "Menus for parent window are still present when dialog is focused" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/70565315:41
mhr3gotwig, so what's the issue?15:41
CimiAdri2000, thanks for raising, I will ask now15:41
gotwigmhr3: image cache problems, and only one recipe gets shown15:42
gotwigmhr3: http://paste.ubuntu.com/911623/15:42
gotwigthe image is removed, there is no image, but it stills shows it for recipes that have no image15:43
mhr3gotwig, unity caches it15:43
gotwigmhr3: that sucks :D15:43
gotwigmhr3: I cant deactivate it, right?15:44
mhr3that's why i said you should do md5 checksums of the images15:44
mhr3no15:44
mhr3gotwig, also, why do you pass path to the image for rows that don't have an image?15:46
mhr3that won't fix your problem completely, but still...15:46
gotwigmhr3: I have a newer version, it works not for images, but still only one gets shown15:47
gotwigI have to print only one out for every loop run15:47
gotwig"now"15:47
mhr3as i said, that's expected15:48
gotwigmhr3: ?15:48
gotwigmhr3: what15:48
gotwigmhr3: it works for me15:48
gotwigmhr3: I now have the problem that only one recipe gets shown15:48
zygaCimi, ping15:59
zyga<zyga> I'd like to report a bug on thunderbird theming, I'm not 100% sure how to report it, also, I'd like someone to confirm they see this on their end and that it is not too monitor specific15:59
zyga the bug is: unselected item background color is very hard to differentiate from background (white)15:59
zyga on my monitor it is virtually the same, there is a very subtle tint but I can barely see it15:59
zyga the problem is also magnified by message listing that (at least for me) cycles even/odd colors for each row15:59
zygaCimi, ^^15:59
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Cimizyga-food, I saw this16:00
Cimizyga-food, unfortunately thunderbird is cheating by using grey as sidebar color16:00
Cimiand making thus very difficult to read16:01
CimiI could make the unselected color darker, but will make other apps less nice16:01
mfischgotwig: hey yuo around?16:23
mfischgotwig: I got the crash16:23
gotwigmfisch: crash? ok16:24
gotwigmfisch: link?16:24
mfischgotwig: I searched for "calc" to launch the calculator16:24
mfischgotwig: what can I give you a link to?  you want the crash info?16:25
gotwigmfisch: oh yeah16:25
mfischgotwig: let me post the stacktrace16:26
mfischgotwig: you asked in the bug before, but the service is restarting like it should16:27
mfischgotwig: however, I still don't think a crash is a valid response to this16:27
mfischgotwig: here's the stack: http://pastebin.com/w6afCxjL16:27
gotwigI get the same16:28
gotwigbut it does not crash16:28
gotwigmfisch: I dont know how to debug that16:29
gotwigbut thanks16:30
gotwigplease report the bug at my launchpad project site16:30
mfischyou can split your line: time, _, difficulty = item.xpath("div/ul/li[@class='extra-time']/span/text()")[0].strip().partition("/"), up into 2 lines16:30
gotwignot at the hundres scopes project16:30
mfischfoo = item.xpath("div/ul/li[@class='extra-time']/span/text()")16:30
gotwigmfisch: why16:30
mfischif foo:  foo[0].strip().partition....16:30
gotwig'hundred'16:31
gotwigmfisch: but there are more important bugs out there :-)16:32
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mfischgotwig: I'll move the existing bug16:36
kduboisDBO: ping16:36
gotwigmfisch: ok16:36
gotwigmfisch: thank you16:36
DBOkdubois, pong16:36
kduboisDBO: pm?16:36
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htorquehm, xchat seems to get lost during a unity restart :-(16:37
DBOkdubois, sure16:38
gotwigI'd like that just one column, and than the next, ...,  gets trough the loop, not all at one time: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~gotwig/lens-cooking/lens-cooking/view/head:/unity-scope-gourmet#L5616:43
gotwigthat means one entry in the database for every loop run16:44
davidcallegotwig, are you sure that your indentation is correct from l74 to l78? It should be inside the for, no?17:04
gotwigdavidcalle: jo I got it17:04
gotwigdavidcalle: people replied to late ^^17:04
davidcallegotwig, :D17:04
gotwigtried to merge my old code xD17:04
gotwigbut there I used lxml ... xD17:05
gotwigok, last problem is the icon thing17:07
gotwigdavidcalle: do you know how to print out a typical error message for all errors?17:24
davidcallegotwig, not really :/17:32
gotwigdavidcalle: lol17:32
gotwigexcept Exception:17:32
gotwigdoes not work17:32
davidcallegotwig, need to go, I'm back in a few hours :)17:33
gotwigdavidcalle: and I get a real life ! :D17:33
davidcalle:D17:33
gotwigdavidcalle: :-) see ya17:34
gotwighey18:34
JanCwhy did I lose (almost?) all my compiz/unity settings after an upgrade from 11.10 --> 12.04?  is that "intended behaviour" (if so: not funny)?18:54
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mhall119JanC: were you  using defaults or custom settings?19:20
JanCcustom, otherwise I wouldn't have lost anything...19:20
mhall119hmm, don't know, I had to run "unity --reset" at one point because my custom settings were causing a newer version or Compiz to fail spectacularly19:21
mhall119JanC: what specifically has changed?19:21
JanCit seems like they do the --reset for everybody or something...  :-(19:21
JanCmhall119: all compiz settings got reset to the "unity defaults"19:22
JanCe.g. I 3x3 virtual desktops (my preference) -> 2x2 (unity default), launcher icon sizes, etc.19:23
JanC(plus a couple of other compiz plugin settings, e.g. all my wallpaper settings got deleted)19:24
mhall119JanC: I haven't heard of that happening intentionally...19:36
JanCmhall119: the effect is exactly as if "unity --reset" was run, I think (except, *I* didn't run it)19:40
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dakiraHi, just a question before I report a bug. In 12.04, is it intended behavior that Super+W only affects the current workspace?20:37
dakiraThis change makes it almost impossible to find some windows. Like this: open two terminals on two seperate desktops, minimize one and go to a third desktop and click the terminal icon in launcher. Hitting the Terminal icon in the launcher only takes me to the non-minimized terminal (instead of showing a spread with both. pressing super+w only shows this one terminal, either. the only way to find the missing terminal is to go from desktop t20:42
dakiradesktop and watch the small triangle to the left of the Terminal icon.20:42
JanChm, seems like you can't click the icon twice anymore...?20:45
dakiraonly when both terminals are on the active workspace20:46
dakiraor rather on the same workspace20:46
dakiraSame problem with the alt+tab (or alt+<key_above_tab>) switcher. works when both windows of the same application are on one workspace. doesn't when they're on seperate workspaces20:47
dakiraJanC: can you reproduce this?20:47
dpb_Hi all -- I filed a bug about a unity HUD idea I had, and was told I should first discuss on the mailing ayatana mailing list.  I'm unable to find where that is.  Could someone help me (re: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/968433)20:48
ubot5Ubuntu bug 968433 in unity "HUD: show the global menu bar when the hud opens" [Undecided,Incomplete]20:48
dakiraIt looks to me like Compiz only registers windows on the active workspace. It doesn't even matter what I open on other workspaces. It won't show up in ALT+TAB or compiz-scale (initiate_all_key)20:53
JanCdakira: indeed...20:55
JanCdakira: add Ctrl to see all windows?20:56
JanCso ctrl+alt+tab20:56
dakiratried that..20:58
JanCtha tworks here20:58
JanCand you can configure all these shortcuts in CCSM20:58
JanCif that helps20:59
dakiraJanC: okay.. the problem is with "bias alt+tab..." in CCSM. It is a switch.. when it's on alt+tab only shows current viewport and ctrl+alt+tab shows all viewports. when it's off it works vice-versa21:00
dakiraJanC: that doesn't solve my problem with compiz-scale, though. You can define shortcuts for the current viewport (initiate_key) and for all viewports (initiate_all_key). initiate_all_key is set to super+w but it only shows windows on the current viewport.21:02
JanChm, interresting21:06
JanCdakira: seems like you found a bug indeed21:08
dakiraI'll report it for compiz, then.21:09
JanCdakira: it might be related to the unity "bias" setting that switches behaviour?21:10
dakiraJanC: might be, but switching that doesn't change the super+w behavior21:11
dakiraSo here's the report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/97192721:33
ubot5Ubuntu bug 971927 in compiz (Ubuntu) "Compiz window-management plugins only affect windows on current viewport" [Undecided,New]21:33
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dakiraHey jono. If you have some time it'd be great if you could check if you can reproduce LP #97192722:21
ubot5Launchpad bug 971927 in compiz (Ubuntu) "Compiz window-management plugins only affect windows on current viewport" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97192722:21
Edericohello, is this the right channel to post a suggestion for HUD?22:24
JanChm, seems like the "HUD" doesn't work well when you disable the global menu bar for applications...23:42
DaekdroomHUD depends on appmenu.23:47

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