| brousch | are we meating yet? | 01:02 |
|---|---|---|
| snap-l | Hey, everyone. We're goind to start the meeting. | 01:02 |
| brousch | okie dokie | 01:03 |
| snap-l | http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-michigan/362/detail/ | 01:03 |
| snap-l | There's the agenda | 01:03 |
| snap-l | First off, welcome everyone | 01:03 |
| snap-l | Pretty much everything on the agenda relates to Penguicon. :) | 01:03 |
| rick_h | party | 01:04 |
| snap-l | We have a Precise Pangolin (12.04) release party scheduled at Penguicon on Friday at 7pm - 8pm | 01:04 |
| snap-l | It'll be in the Thomas room, which Penguicon has graciously set up for us | 01:04 |
| rick_h | one hour? | 01:04 |
| snap-l | So that'll be pretty awesome | 01:04 |
| snap-l | Yeah, one hour | 01:04 |
| snap-l | That's the time we had last year, and I figure it's when the crazy starts happening. :) | 01:05 |
| snap-l | You'll need to have a day-pass for Penguicon if you're not already attending | 01:05 |
| greg-g | weee | 01:05 |
| brousch | snap-l: i just added west mi release party to the agenda | 01:06 |
| snap-l | But I'd highly recommend coming to Penguicon anyway, because a) it's a lot of fun, and b) we finally got rick_h to speak at it | 01:06 |
| snap-l | brousch: Awesome. We can talk about that after Penguicon. | 01:06 |
| greg-g | he did a packaging jam once | 01:06 |
| greg-g | s/jam/talk/ | 01:06 |
| snap-l | greg-g: Yes, and we know how special these events can be | 01:06 |
| snap-l | it's like the blooming of the corpse flower. | 01:07 |
| brousch | sounds wonderfully disgusting | 01:07 |
| snap-l | Anywho.... :) | 01:07 |
| snap-l | One of the other events scheduled for Penguicon is a Panel discussion for what's new in 12.04 | 01:08 |
| snap-l | Which needs some lovely people to talk about what's new in 12.04 | 01:08 |
| snap-l | (insert your name here) | 01:08 |
| snap-l | I'd like to have a few people who can commit to talking about it at Penguicon | 01:09 |
| snap-l | Unfortunately the schedule isn't published yet, so I can't give you a day / time that it'll be happening | 01:09 |
| snap-l | so, more details forthcoming | 01:10 |
| snap-l | If anyone is going to be at Penguicon and would like to talk about 12.04, please send an e-mail to the mailing list | 01:10 |
| snap-l | Comments / concerns? | 01:10 |
| Ahuka | Looking forward to the party, | 01:12 |
| snap-l | OK, is there anything else relating to Penguicon? | 01:13 |
| Ahuka | Just get the word out. | 01:13 |
| snap-l | I know rick_h is presenting, and I'll be (I think) doing a podcast and juggling there. | 01:13 |
| Ahuka | Podcast? Wht kind? | 01:14 |
| snap-l | My Open Metalcast | 01:14 |
| snap-l | showing how the sausage gets made. | 01:14 |
| brousch | juggling 12.04 CDs? | 01:14 |
| Ahuka | Is there anyone there you want as a guest? | 01:14 |
| snap-l | brousch: Were that they were there, I would love to | 01:14 |
| brousch | burn some | 01:14 |
| snap-l | Ahuka: I'd love for you to be there, but it's mostly a music podcast. | 01:15 |
| Ahuka | I didn't mean me, I mean of the poeple at Penguicon. | 01:15 |
| snap-l | Ahuka: If there's any metal folks, maybe we could swing an interview. | 01:16 |
| snap-l | CC metal folks. | 01:16 |
| Ahuka | I kind of lit a fire under some of the Penguicon folks. | 01:16 |
| Ahuka | Told them thier publicity stinks. | 01:16 |
| snap-l | Ahuka: Yeah, it's been a little weak this time around | 01:17 |
| Ahuka | I suggested they get Bruce Schneier to interview for Sunday Morning Linux Review. | 01:17 |
| snap-l | but I think part of it is that the con-chair quit | 01:17 |
| Ahuka | Not the con chair's job to do publicity, really. | 01:17 |
| snap-l | regardless, I see Penguicon as the skidding into the finish line, tires on fire, gas tank about to explode, type of show. | 01:18 |
| Ahuka | Though I can sympathize for the problem. | 01:18 |
| snap-l | This does not surprise me | 01:18 |
| greg-g | another nice visual | 01:18 |
| snap-l | greg-g: They call me Mr. Metaphor | 01:19 |
| snap-l | OK, brousch, what's happening in west MI? | 01:19 |
| brousch | release party during the regular monthly WMLUG meeting | 01:20 |
| brousch | pizza, pop | 01:20 |
| greg-g | "pop" | 01:20 |
| brousch | not nearly as exciting as penguicon | 01:20 |
| * brousch eyeballs greg-g | 01:20 | |
| brousch | those dirty west coast hippies have you saying soda now? | 01:21 |
| brousch | i'll hand out CDs and swag | 01:22 |
| greg-g | brousch: I've always said soda, after I said "coke" when I lived in TX | 01:24 |
| brousch | commie! | 01:24 |
| rick_h | soda foreva! | 01:24 |
| rick_h | pop only lives in MI hippy hearts because the yuppers won one | 01:25 |
| * greg-g apologizes for only derailing the meeting | 01:25 | |
| snap-l | greg-g: I don't think there's much sodium in soda. | 01:25 |
| snap-l | but there is pop in pop. ;) | 01:25 |
| greg-g | snap-l: pop is a noise, soda is a drink ;P | 01:25 |
| * snap-l gets out the club... coda. | 01:26 | |
| snap-l | soda, rather. | 01:26 |
| snap-l | Any...who... | 01:26 |
| snap-l | brousch: When is the meet-up, and where can we lear more? | 01:26 |
| greg-g | +n | 01:26 |
| brousch | hm, i thought it was on the team thing | 01:27 |
| snap-l | It is, but I wanted you to point that out. | 01:28 |
| snap-l | hint hint | 01:28 |
| brousch | http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-michigan/1535/detail/ | 01:28 |
| brousch | bah, i can never find anything on there | 01:28 |
| snap-l | OK, very cool. | 01:30 |
| snap-l | Also, this isn't on the agenda, but I'd be remiss for not mentioning it | 01:30 |
| snap-l | Ahuka: You're still looking for someone to speak at WALUG about 12.04? | 01:31 |
| snap-l | On 5/17? | 01:31 |
| snap-l | I'm unfortunately not going to be able to make it, as it's my anniversary that day, and we have pans. | 01:31 |
| snap-l | and plans. | 01:31 |
| Ahuka | Well, yes, I am, if you have someone. Otherwise, I'll ask you again for like August. | 01:31 |
| greg-g | ....to make loud noises with | 01:32 |
| greg-g | (sorry, bad timing) | 01:32 |
| snap-l | Ahuka: I haven't found anyone yet. | 01:32 |
| snap-l | If anyone on the channel, however, would like to volunteer.... :) | 01:32 |
| Ahuka | Then don't worry about it. It won't kill anyone in LUGWASH to have an open discussion for a change. | 01:32 |
| brousch | snap-l: how about if ahuka provides candles and wine? | 01:33 |
| snap-l | hah | 01:33 |
| snap-l | brousch: Didn't realize you were the romantic type, but if you're volunteering... :) | 01:33 |
| Ahuka | brousch, it's not *that* kind of group. | 01:33 |
| snap-l | I'm sure it can be arranged. | 01:33 |
| brousch | no, too far away for me. also i have no idea what's going on in 12.04 unity | 01:34 |
| Ahuka | Me either, that is why I was looking for an expert. | 01:34 |
| greg-g | where's jcastro when you need 'em | 01:35 |
| Ahuka | He told me Craig would take his place.<g> | 01:35 |
| snap-l | On a beach in Florida. | 01:35 |
| brousch | what happened to that DBO guy? | 01:36 |
| Ahuka | Anyway, I installed Unity on one of mmy boxes. | 01:36 |
| snap-l | DBO doesn't hang out here much | 01:36 |
| snap-l | probably because when he does, we start beating him up for Unity stuff | 01:36 |
| Ahuka | Turns out it is not the personifcation of evil. Who knew? | 01:37 |
| brousch | Ahuka: i disbelieve | 01:37 |
| Ahuka | Normally I stick to the Blue-haired Stepchild. | 01:37 |
| snap-l | Yeah, I think the step-children are going off to colleg | 01:38 |
| brousch | Ahuka: a man after my own heart | 01:38 |
| snap-l | and aren't getting the support they once had from papa canonical | 01:38 |
| Ahuka | snap-l, I'm not sure that will matter too much. | 01:39 |
| Ahuka | Losing one developer should not be the end of the world. | 01:39 |
| snap-l | Ahuka: Well, it's no longer directly linked | 01:40 |
| brousch | xubuntu is leaving | 01:41 |
| snap-l | was that an april fools, or was it serious? | 01:41 |
| greg-g | fools | 01:43 |
| brousch | i thought it was from a few days ago | 01:43 |
| * greg-g is typing one handed | 01:43 | |
| * greg-g has Rowan | 01:43 | |
| snap-l | Let Rowan type the other hand. :) | 01:43 |
| greg-g | , mujklj,k | 01:44 |
| brousch | geekers | 01:44 |
| brousch | bah, it is dated 4/1 | 01:44 |
| brousch | good | 01:44 |
| snap-l | OK, anything else for this meeting | 01:47 |
| brousch | snap-l: thanks for running things again! | 01:50 |
| greg-g | yep yep | 01:51 |
| greg-g | thanks | 01:51 |
| snap-l | np. | 01:53 |
| snap-l | Thanks everyone for coming out! | 01:53 |
| snap-l | Hope to see you all at the release parties! | 01:54 |
| _stink_ | oo | 02:15 |
| _stink_ | i vote yes | 02:15 |
| _stink_ | on everything | 02:15 |
| snap-l | I have created an extra-long OMC | 02:49 |
| snap-l | Trying to narrow down 8 CC artists to highlight for a new audience | 02:50 |
| snap-l | (punchline) it's not 8 artists. | 02:50 |
| === JonathanDog is now known as JonathanD | ||
| rick_h | morning | 10:36 |
| snap-l | Good morning | 12:06 |
| brousch | Merry Monday! | 12:08 |
| rick_h | ugh | 12:08 |
| brousch | Come on now. You had all weekend to relax and recharge for the week | 12:09 |
| rick_h | yea, I did some of that | 12:10 |
| brousch | Buck up and dive in! | 12:11 |
| brousch | omg i just found some new KDE awesome | 13:23 |
| brousch | the same export plugins in DigiKam are available in gwenview | 13:23 |
| jrwren | rick_h: screen maintains $WINDOW environment variable. i found TMUX_PANE but that is different. what do you use for $WINDOW? | 13:24 |
| brousch | so i don't have to start up digikam (5-10 minute boot) to export photos | 13:24 |
| jrwren | 5-10min boot? WTF? | 13:24 |
| rick_h | jrwren: what would I use $WINDOW for? | 13:24 |
| jrwren | what is this 1994? | 13:24 |
| jrwren | rick_h: i use $WINDOW in my $PS1 so I know which screen window I am in | 13:24 |
| brousch | jrwren: another case of 4GB is not enough for me | 13:24 |
| rick_h | jrwren: have to find it out of list-windows? https://github.com/matschaffer/profile/blob/master/tmux.conf | 13:26 |
| rick_h | not sure, I've not used that before sorry | 13:26 |
| jrwren | rick_h: thanks. no worries. you are my go to guru about this stuff. | 13:27 |
| rick_h | I'm kind of confused though, are you not using any status window? | 13:27 |
| rick_h | is that why you don't know which window you're in? | 13:28 |
| jrwren | i usually know. | 13:28 |
| jrwren | but i got used to looking at PS1 for that. | 13:28 |
| rick_h | k | 13:28 |
| jrwren | byobu-tmux only uses 1 status line instead of 2, so i don't have a clear picture of current window based on status line | 13:28 |
| jrwren | maybe i can make byobu-tmux use 2 status lines, I'm not sure. | 13:28 |
| rick_h | ah, yea no idea. Not using byobu | 13:29 |
| jrwren | I like byobu really only for the network section. | 13:29 |
| jrwren | i also miss ctrl-a,ctrl-a to toggle between windows. (screen) - I need ot lookup how to do that in byobu | 13:30 |
| jrwren | err... in tmux i mean | 13:30 |
| rick_h | # bind C-a to the previously active window | 13:30 |
| rick_h | bind-key C-a last-window | 13:30 |
| jrwren | thanks! that rocks. | 13:31 |
| jrwren | rick_h: whoa, sorry to bother you, but one huge difference i just noticed is with processes sessions attached to same | 13:51 |
| jrwren | session | 13:51 |
| jrwren | when I change windows in one it changes in the other. in screen they were really separate so in xterm1 i could attach and toggle between screen windows 1 & 2 and in xterm2 toggle between windows 3 & 4 | 13:51 |
| snap-l | jrwren: Yeah, tmux keeps them as the same session | 13:53 |
| snap-l | that's the beauty of tmux | 13:53 |
| jrwren | that isn't beauty. | 13:54 |
| jrwren | surely there is a toggle. | 13:54 |
| jrwren | i'll RTFM | 13:54 |
| snap-l | jrwren: It is beauty, and if you don't see that, you're a luddite. ;) | 13:56 |
| brousch | snap-l: steve jobs would not have approved it, therefore it is ugly | 13:59 |
| rick_h | jrwren: yea, it's a big difference and one that somtimes annoys and sometimes I love | 13:59 |
| rick_h | jrwren: it does make it an awesome remote pairing kind of thing | 14:00 |
| jrwren | snap-l: you are a namecalling namecaller. | 14:00 |
| jrwren | sure, but there are wasy to do the remote paring thing exactly the same with screen. | 14:01 |
| jcastro | good morning! | 14:01 |
| jrwren | if there is no way to make tmux NOT do this, then its a defficiency and something screen can do that tmux cannot and THAT is weak. | 14:01 |
| snap-l | jrwren: Takes a namecalling namecaller to know a namecalled namecallering namecaller. | 14:01 |
| rick_h | party jcastro | 14:01 |
| snap-l | jcastro: wb | 14:01 |
| jrwren | good morning jcastro <3 u | 14:02 |
| jrwren | tmux new-session -t 0 | 14:05 |
| jrwren | YAYA | 14:05 |
| jrwren | that starts tmux with a new client session to an existing server | 14:05 |
| jrwren | to get separate window behavior like screen. | 14:05 |
| rick_h | heh, finally spent a few minute to go aroud and git pull my various vim bundles | 14:34 |
| rick_h | nerdtree got some pretty | 14:34 |
| jrwren | oh? | 14:35 |
| jrwren | I found Explore and decided I don't need nerd tree :) | 14:35 |
| rick_h | yea, little arrows and such | 14:35 |
| rick_h | jrwren: linky? | 14:35 |
| rick_h | which is "explore" there's a few with explore in the name | 14:36 |
| jrwren | well, Explore and Ggrep from fugitive | 14:36 |
| jrwren | rick_h: its built into vim. | 14:36 |
| jrwren | :Sex and :Vex and :Explore | 14:36 |
| rick_h | huh? fugative is the git tool | 14:37 |
| rick_h | ah, gotcha | 14:37 |
| jrwren | yeah, Ggrep puts matches into the error list and then I just nav the error list. | 14:39 |
| jrwren | I don't care what file its in, I just go to the match :) | 14:39 |
| rick_h | yea, I use :vimgrep all the time | 14:39 |
| jrwren | its esp great for learning huge new codebases. | 14:39 |
| jrwren | cuz I have no idea what file something is in | 14:39 |
| jrwren | but I just Ggrep for it. | 14:39 |
| rick_h | but I do like walking around with nerdtree since it's a full overview | 14:39 |
| jrwren | *nod* I'd probably use it a ton coming from VS's solution explorer | 14:40 |
| rick_h | but yea, vimgrep + ctrlp have gotten rid of 80% of my nerdtree usuage | 14:40 |
| rick_h | yay for more px for editing! | 14:41 |
| jrwren | yup. YAY | 14:42 |
| greg-g | jrwren: so, I've only read parts of the scrollback, why tmux over screen? | 15:02 |
| rick_h | it's awesome! and much friendlier to scripting/etc | 15:02 |
| greg-g | heh | 15:03 |
| jrwren | greg-g: i'm changing for 2 reasons: 1> philosphy regarding accepting patches. 2> I prefer BSD license to GPL license | 15:05 |
| rick_h | http://paste.mitechie.com/show/593/ | 15:05 |
| snap-l | It also feels a lot lighter than screen | 15:05 |
| snap-l | plus the scripting is utterly amazing. | 15:05 |
| jrwren | greg-g: jcastro could probably tell us details, but I gather than byobu tried to send screen patches and they said "no ty" and so rather than fork screen, byobu went ot tmux and tmux said "tyvm" | 15:05 |
| rick_h | yea, that's part of it | 15:06 |
| rick_h | but tmux has much nicer usability for things | 15:06 |
| rick_h | I know I use :kill-window -t xx a lot more now | 15:06 |
| jcastro | screen is very sluggish upstream | 15:06 |
| rick_h | the ability to :somecommand is just awesome for tweaking/doing things outside of the normal config you setup ahead of time | 15:06 |
| jcastro | it's old, and was stagnating | 15:06 |
| jcastro | and then tmux came around | 15:06 |
| jcastro | dustin tells me the code is much smaller, cleaner, easier to maintain | 15:06 |
| jcastro | that and the guy accepted his patches right away | 15:07 |
| jcastro | and if you use it, it's so much better you won't even care about screen anymore | 15:07 |
| jcastro | it's totally badass | 15:07 |
| snap-l | It's kinda like the difference between git and svn | 15:07 |
| snap-l | svn is perfectly usable, but stagnant | 15:07 |
| jcastro | try the splits in tmux | 15:07 |
| snap-l | git gives you superpowers. | 15:07 |
| jcastro | it's basically the awesomest thing ever | 15:07 |
| jrwren | rick_h: screen has : commands, but probably not as extensive as what tmux can do | 15:07 |
| snap-l | jcastro: I have. They're rockstar. | 15:07 |
| rick_h | meh, the splits I don't get. You want to tile, then using a tiling WM :) | 15:08 |
| jcastro | hah | 15:08 |
| rick_h | It breaks all kinds of usage | 15:08 |
| snap-l | rick_h: They're good if you're on a ssh window | 15:08 |
| snap-l | and want to run pep8 without switching | 15:08 |
| jrwren | and I'm ALWAYS on a ssh window :) | 15:08 |
| rick_h | meh, well you're already in vim then so you just run ,M anyway ;) | 15:08 |
| snap-l | because I'm not super awesome like rick_h | 15:09 |
| rick_h | I guess, at that point though I find my WM does a better job than tmux does | 15:09 |
| snap-l | and ,M maps to what, exactly? | 15:09 |
| snap-l | (for those of us not using .vimrc.rick_h) | 15:10 |
| rick_h | http://paste.mitechie.com/show/594/ | 15:10 |
| rick_h | there done, and you get to auto jump to the errors to fix from the quickfix window the way vim intended | 15:10 |
| rick_h | running pep8 outside of vim is next to pointless | 15:10 |
| jrwren | i don't run pip8, i just vim-pyflakes and pray | 15:11 |
| rick_h | heh, yea but that doesn't catch spacing violations and such | 15:11 |
| rick_h | ,m == pyflakes ,M == pep8 | 15:11 |
| rick_h | and ,m == jslint in a js file, phpcodesniffer in a php file, csslint in a css file, etc | 15:12 |
| rick_h | voilations in the quickfix window for auto jumping around to each location directly | 15:12 |
| jrwren | how about syntastic? | 15:13 |
| rick_h | so I've just not gotten that going well | 15:13 |
| jrwren | me either.:) | 15:13 |
| rick_h | but I guess run it against a manual pep8/etc and let me know if it keeps things clean | 15:13 |
| rick_h | run I run things on the CI server it's running pep8/pylint/jslint from the cmd line | 15:14 |
| rick_h | so same tool for me in the dev env | 15:14 |
| snap-l | rick_h: That is awesome. | 15:14 |
| snap-l | I have syntastic running fine | 15:14 |
| rick_h | snap-l: which is awesome? | 15:15 |
| snap-l | the pep8 in vim | 15:15 |
| rick_h | yea, best way to go | 15:15 |
| rick_h | I spent a bunch of time trying to get everything in the qiuckfix window, it's a damn powerful thing | 15:16 |
| snap-l | Regardless, splits are pretty nice if you're using it via ssh | 15:16 |
| snap-l | that way you don't need two sessions | 15:16 |
| rick_h | ok, well I'm a split fan in most places so I understand | 15:16 |
| rick_h | just find my issues copying/pasting/etc out of split windows to be a pain so I use WM splits vs tmux splits | 15:17 |
| rick_h | but yea, splits still ftw | 15:17 |
| snap-l | Yeah, though I think tmux fixes c/p between splits | 15:17 |
| snap-l | honestly haven't run into that, though | 15:17 |
| snap-l | I use wm c/p more than I ought | 15:17 |
| snap-l | btw: I've been getting nailed by some EC2 bots on OMC | 15:18 |
| snap-l | they go through and crawl everything, including the mp3/ogg files at an amazing rate | 15:19 |
| rick_h | you've set the robots.txt? | 15:19 |
| snap-l | I've put in some rate limiting, so if you decide to download more than X number of mp3 / ogg files at once, it'll bomb | 15:19 |
| snap-l | Yeah, I hadn't set it to not index wp-* stuff. | 15:19 |
| snap-l | I have that set now | 15:19 |
| snap-l | but since it wasn't adhering to the seconds between crawls, I don't think it would have mattered. | 15:20 |
| rick_h | right, but can't you say not to index the .ogg files? | 15:21 |
| rick_h | and it should never hit it, if it does you can blacklist it? | 15:21 |
| jrwren | mod-bw ? | 15:21 |
| snap-l | Two separate IP addresses | 15:21 |
| snap-l | so blacklisting = pointless | 15:21 |
| snap-l | jrwren: nginx | 15:22 |
| krondor | do you set a max-age? Maybe those crawlers are expecting that for refresh interval? | 15:22 |
| snap-l | I don't have a max-age on the mp3 / ogg files | 15:22 |
| jrwren | hipster. | 15:22 |
| snap-l | jrwren: I can't hear you over my skinny jeans. | 15:23 |
| jrwren | snap-l: lol | 15:23 |
| snap-l | they make everything muffly. | 15:23 |
| jrwren | snap-l: how is that iphone and macbook ? | 15:23 |
| snap-l | jrwren: so last century | 15:23 |
| krondor | It seems counterintuitive to set a max-age for something that won't change (finished episodes), but I've seen clients that think no-age means always refresh if nothing is given. | 15:26 |
| snap-l | krondor: I've thought about setting that, however there have been times when I've needed to update an episode | 15:31 |
| snap-l | and frankly, you're not likely to keep an episode in cache | 15:32 |
| krondor | so maybe just setting it to something short if you need to update could influence these crawls, maybe.. | 15:32 |
| snap-l | Possible. | 15:33 |
| rick_h | yea, I mean end of the day you're expecting htem to listen to the rules, but if they don't you just need to block the ips | 15:33 |
| krondor | rick_h: yeah there's only so much workaround for badly behaving things you should do before you say, I don't want to allow this bad thing and they should adhere to the rules. | 15:34 |
| rick_h | yea, I mean it's not like you're losing $$ or customers by blocking a misbehaving bot from your podcast episodes | 15:35 |
| rick_h | time wasted > * | 15:35 |
| snap-l | My biggest fear is wasted bandwidth | 15:36 |
| snap-l | which is why I put in the connection limiting on the episodes | 15:36 |
| jrwren | front it with apache and use modbw | 15:36 |
| snap-l | frankly, if you're downloading more than X eopisodes at a time, your client is broken | 15:36 |
| jrwren | or find a modbw for nginx | 15:36 |
| snap-l | jrwren: I'm not concerned (right now) with limiting outbound bandwidth | 15:37 |
| snap-l | Every download gets counted against my monthly quota. | 15:38 |
| rick_h | yea, kind of defeats the s3 hosting | 15:38 |
| snap-l | Well, linode, but same thing | 15:38 |
| jrwren | a bit different. | 15:39 |
| jrwren | s3 is $ per xfer, not quota | 15:39 |
| rick_h | oh, I thought they were hosted in s3 | 15:39 |
| rick_h | nvm then | 15:39 |
| snap-l | No, not currently. | 15:39 |
| snap-l | But still, they eat a little bit of my monthly pie | 15:39 |
| snap-l | I'm already at 4% usage, and it's 2 days into the month | 15:40 |
| rick_h | 2.0/31 | 15:40 |
| rick_h | 0.0645161 | 15:40 |
| rick_h | so you're ahead of the game :) | 15:40 |
| snap-l | pfft | 15:42 |
| snap-l | and it's 2.0 / 30 for this moth | 15:43 |
| snap-l | So .66 | 15:43 |
| rick_h | ok, so as long as you're under 6.6% you're doing great | 15:43 |
| greg-g | assuming constant download rate over the month, which is crazy talk ;) | 15:45 |
| brousch | right. downloads will increase after release of each podcast | 15:46 |
| rick_h | didn't he just release? | 15:46 |
| rick_h | ok, well the 27th | 15:47 |
| snap-l | Yes | 15:47 |
| snap-l | and another is going to be released tomorrow | 15:47 |
| rick_h | but yea, anyway, just saying being at 4% on the second day isn't death | 15:47 |
| rick_h | but still, misbehaving clients == banned in my book | 15:47 |
| snap-l | rick_h: unless you're partnering with another podcasting network | 15:48 |
| rick_h | does http://bmark.us now load for any chrome users? | 15:48 |
| snap-l | who will drive God-knows-what traffic | 15:48 |
| rick_h | and if yes, are you on the latest dev version? | 15:48 |
| snap-l | rick_h: It's loading here | 15:48 |
| rick_h | snap-l: can you check which chrome version you're on? | 15:48 |
| snap-l | 18.0.1025.142 | 15:49 |
| snap-l | I'm chasing stable, afaik | 15:49 |
| rick_h | hmm, not loading on firefox nightly either...wtf | 15:49 |
| brousch | rick_h: bmark loads for me | 15:50 |
| brousch | 18.0.1025.142 | 15:50 |
| rick_h | ok, well I'll have to figure it out tonight I guess. Glad it's not broken for everyone atm | 15:51 |
| brousch | did you clear your cache? :P | 15:54 |
| snap-l | Have you tried turning it off and on again? | 15:54 |
| rick_h | heh yea, definitely cleared my cache | 15:54 |
| rick_h | in chrome the request fails, looks like the redirect breaking it | 15:55 |
| rick_h | in firefox though it seems fine, just never loads | 15:55 |
| rick_h | and it was working, but did updates today so assuming since it works for you guys I'm hitting bleeding edge browser issues perhaps | 15:55 |
| rick_h | since I'm on nightlies in FF and dev version in chrome, I'm on 19 | 15:55 |
| rick_h | really cool https://github.com/blog/1081-instantly-beautiful-project-pages | 16:52 |
| rick_h | making the github pages stuff a bit easier to get started iwth | 16:52 |
| rick_h | ok crazy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6b4ZZQkcNEo | 17:21 |
| brousch | doesn't seem crazy | 17:29 |
| rick_h | I find it impressive it's able to launch itself like that | 17:30 |
| jrwren | i like its durability | 17:39 |
| brousch | I like its rugged good looks | 17:41 |
| snap-l | rick_h: That's not nearly as creepy as this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83ULlgpT1UQ | 18:17 |
| rick_h | ok, that's a bit strange | 18:18 |
| snap-l | Imagine that tearing after you. | 18:18 |
| rick_h | well I think I'd just turn :) | 18:19 |
| snap-l | rick_h: Well, yeah, for now. | 18:19 |
| snap-l | But the days of autonomous robots distributing bundles of pain with your name on it are coming. | 18:19 |
| greg-g | RAT THING! | 18:23 |
| rick_h | greg-g: ftw! | 18:24 |
| rick_h | booo, did a big upgrade on the precise machine and no WM coming up | 18:25 |
| rick_h | just lovely wallpaper | 18:25 |
| greg-g | heh | 18:26 |
| rick_h | yea, I should give it more love than I do, but I guess a machine you only visit every once in a while is a bad candidate for running a beta on | 18:27 |
| greg-g | heh, you mean you don't dog food every day on your main work machine? | 18:28 |
| snap-l | heh | 18:28 |
| rick_h | umm nope. I've been holding out because of pycon and then since I don't believe in upgrades not had a chance for a reinstall | 18:29 |
| rick_h | but that's why I keep the second machine around running, so I can say I'm dog fooding :) | 18:29 |
| brousch | upgrades happen whether you believe in them or not | 18:30 |
| rick_h | yea, but I don't do them, I do reinstalls | 18:32 |
| brousch | snap-l: I like http://spikethetomb.bandcamp.com/ from OMC Ep 43 | 18:55 |
| snap-l | Yeah, they're pretty good | 19:02 |
| snap-l | They ran out of free downloads, though, so I can't download anything else but Pyrophile | 19:03 |
| snap-l | That's not the first band that I've had that problem | 19:03 |
| greg-g | ran out of free downloads? | 19:03 |
| * greg-g looks | 19:04 | |
| snap-l | Yeah, they only get a certain number of them | 19:04 |
| greg-g | huh | 19:04 |
| greg-g | odd | 19:04 |
| snap-l | at least that's how I've had it explained to me | 19:04 |
| greg-g | yeah, interesting pricing scheme | 19:04 |
| greg-g | (I've started replacing "business model" with "pricing scheme" :) ) | 19:04 |
| greg-g | (that way I get to remember the grand ole days of CS 1301, intro to comp sci via Scheme) | 19:05 |
| snap-l | greg-g: sorry to hear that. | 19:05 |
| greg-g | :) | 19:05 |
| snap-l | http://mvsm.bandcamp.com/album/de-lo-inevitable <- I've never been able to download this album | 19:07 |
| snap-l | not sure what the heck is the problem | 19:08 |
| greg-g | I wonder if they (the band) chose not to allow downloads? | 19:08 |
| snap-l | It's possible. | 19:10 |
| brousch | snap-l: free downloads are one thing, but i can't even pay for the album? | 19:10 |
| snap-l | Of course I can go to Jamendo and find their stuff there. | 19:11 |
| snap-l | brousch: Trust me, I don't understand some bands | 19:11 |
| brousch | i mean spike the tomb | 19:11 |
| brousch | no download or pay link | 19:11 |
| snap-l | brousch: That too | 19:11 |
| snap-l | brousch: If you want to contact them, please feel free | 19:11 |
| snap-l | I want to download the rest of their album | 19:12 |
| brousch | ok, sent a message | 19:14 |
| snap-l | tx | 19:18 |
| snap-l | I think I know why I don't listen to Caress of Steel more often | 20:06 |
| snap-l | It's all about aging, revolution, and D&D | 20:06 |
| snap-l | I'm already doing that. | 20:07 |
| snap-l | ;) | 20:07 |
| jcastro | also probably because it's a crap album | 20:10 |
| snap-l | Meh, it's not that bad of an album | 20:13 |
| snap-l | I mean, how can you deny Didacts and Narpets? | 20:14 |
| greg-g | snap-l: loving the instrumental OMC #5 | 21:30 |
| greg-g | (as usual, love the instrumental casts) | 21:30 |
| _Marcus | I don't get why that timezone link is in the topic. All of Michigan except for a little part is EST | 23:47 |
| rick_h | well it's because the website for the loco deals in UTC and we often have to convert times | 23:49 |
| rick_h | and whenever there's an event, ubuntu developer week, etc it's in UTC times | 23:49 |
| _Marcus | Oh | 23:50 |
| greg-g | also, it may have been a joke, I don't remember | 23:51 |
| greg-g | or, qausi joke | 23:51 |
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