[07:59] <davidcalle> Chipaca, ping
[08:02] <JamesTait> Goooooood mooooornin' intarwebz!
[09:06] <mandel> morning!
[09:49] <czajkowski> morning all
[10:32] <rye> czajkowski: hi, are you able to access bug #970769 ?
[10:35] <czajkowski> rye: nope is it a private bug ?
[10:57] <rye> czajkowski: i suppose it is, but private not to u1 but ubuntu as a whole
[10:58] <czajkowski> rye: someone on the bug squad can see it then, but not me
[13:06] <urbanape> morning, all
[13:22] <dobey> rye: is it a crash report?
[13:29] <mandel> urbanape, dobey hello!
[13:32] <dobey> hola mandel
[13:35] <arges> hello, i've been trying to sync some 300mb .wav files for a project in my ubuntuone folder and they don't sync at all. is there something specific about this format that would cause it to not sync?  I've checked the u1sdtool --current-transfers and it never transfers the files.
[13:44] <mandel> arges, AFAIK there is not, this is on Ubuntu, right?
[13:44] <arges> mandel, yes, ubuntu precise
[13:44] <mandel> arges, have you looked ant the status of the files using sdtool?
[13:44] <arges> i've actually zipped all the files together into a large 2.0gb file and that seems to be syncing properly
[13:45] <mandel> rye, do you know anything about this? ^
[13:45] <arges> mandel, u1sdtool?
[13:45] <mandel> arges, yes, sorry I uses the old name
[13:45] <mandel> s/uses/used
[13:45] <arges> mandel, cool, whats the syntax for looking at the status of single files?
[13:46] <mandel> arges, u1sdtool --info=path
[13:47] <arges> mandel, hmm
[13:47] <arges> mandel, this might be relevant... the filename has a space in it
[13:47] <mandel> arges, that should not be an issue
[13:47] <dobey> it's not an issue
[13:47] <arges> I guess 'Ubuntu One' has a space
[13:47] <arges> : )
[13:48]  * dobey has uploaded plenty of 200-500 MB files to U1 with no problem
[13:48] <dobey> and we don't block .wav files, no
[13:48] <arges> u1sdtool --info=Ubuntu\ One/Jams/jam_Session_Audio\ 1_20120331.wav
[13:48] <arges> Oops, an error ocurred:
[13:49] <mandel> arges, try passing the full path: u1sdtool --info=/home/arges/Ubuntu\ One/Jams/jam_Session_Audio\ 1_20120331.wav
[13:49] <arges> mandel, same thing
[13:50] <mandel> arges, can you use paste.ubuntu.com to show the error?
[13:51] <arges> mandel, http://paste.ubuntu.com/911487/
[13:51] <arges> also included the relevant syncdaemon.log outoupt
[13:53] <mandel> arges, is that all you have in the log?
[13:54] <arges> mandel, thats the only output after issuing the command
[13:55] <mandel> arges, lets pull rye into this, he is the master in this debugging sessions
[13:55] <mandel> rye, help help!! ;-)
[14:01] <dobey> well, syncdaemon seems to be mostly doing the right thing there
[14:02] <dobey> arges: what version of python-twisted-core do you have?
[14:02] <dobey> although i guess that probably doesn't *really* matter given that error message
[14:02] <arges> dobey,  11.1.0-1ubuntu2
[14:08] <rye> mandel: summoned rye
[14:08] <rye> reading
[14:08] <mandel> rye, hurray!
[14:09] <rye> mandel: dobey, re u1sdtool info breaking, checking the bugs, this was known
[14:10] <rye> bug #917222 to be
[14:12] <dobey> rye: i think that's a different error
[14:12] <dobey> hmm, maybe not
[14:13] <rye> dobey: sd replies properly, u1sdtool crashes
[14:13] <rye> arges: http://ubuntuone.com/2tIX7Q5WQ19VPglEReOnA5 - this is a patched u1sdtool script version from the bug described above
[14:14] <dobey> right, i thought that bug was an issue with unicode filenames, but it seems not looking at the pastebin there
[14:14] <dobey> which isn't helpful, not being public and all
[14:16] <arges> rye, thanks downloading
[14:17] <rye> dobey: removed the link to pastebin, i pasted the relevant info to the bug already, but it was not obvious
[14:17] <arges> here is the proper output http://paste.ubuntu.com/911511/
[14:17] <arges> for the file that isn't syncing
[14:18] <rye> arges: ok, what does u1sdtool --waiting show?
[14:19] <arges> rye,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/911513/
[14:19] <arges> i created a zip file of all the audio files i need, and that seemed to be syncing with no problem
[14:20] <rye> arges: where were the files before you copied them over to Ubuntu One folder?
[14:21] <arges> rye, in my home directory
[14:21] <arges> then I moved it into a folder within the ubuntu one folder
[14:22] <arges> then that didn't work, I moved the files around inside the ubuntu one folder trying to get them to sync
[14:22] <rye> arges: ok, then it is not relevant, the timestamp is not in the past. Ok, could you please archive the whole log directory and sent the contents to ubuntuone-support@canonical.com ?
[14:22] <arges> rye, ok
[14:22] <rye> arges: you will get a ticket number and we will be able to browse through the logs to find out why it did not want to sync the file
[14:23] <arges> rye, by whole log directory you mean .cache/ubuntuone/log ?
[14:23] <dobey> yes
[14:23] <arges> ok
[14:52] <rye> arges: ok, i see that all wav files failed to upload due to DOES_NOT_EXIST response from the server, digging into the server logs now
[14:53] <arges> rye,  thanks
[14:57] <mandel> urbanape, dobey, briancurtin, do we have or not the standup? Is the 4 of us today :)
[14:57] <urbanape> heh. Not much to report. Friday for me was actually doing some bug work on the iOS apps.
[14:58] <dobey> mandel: you forgot thisfred
[14:58] <mandel> dobey, I did! sorry thisfred!!
[14:58] <thisfred> huwha?
[14:58] <mandel> thisfred, standup, we are deciding if we have it or skip it :)
[14:58] <dobey> but you know my stance on the matter :)
[14:58] <thisfred> skip
[14:58] <mandel> dobey, I think I know you answer
[14:58] <mandel> dobey, lol
[14:58] <thisfred> skipskipskip
[14:58] <mandel> +1 to skip here
[14:59] <briancurtin> i did a ton of testing and put together a windows release. i'm going to put together a branch for some autoupdater functionality we talked about late yesterday
[14:59] <briancurtin> that's my unofficial standup
[14:59] <briancurtin> er, yesterday as in friday
[15:00] <thisfred> I programmed some C, I'm programming some more C. The more I understand it, the less my opinion of it changes... ;)
[15:00] <mandel> briancurtin, we need to do another one with the autoupdate, I already have a branch with a simpler implementation here: lp:~mandel/ubuntuone-control-panel/autoupdate
[15:01] <mandel> briancurtin, do you think we can get one done in a few mins so that we can test it and let QA test the installer with that?
[15:01] <dobey> i did some stuff, gonna do more stuff
[15:01] <briancurtin> mandel: yeah let me check out the branch. if the branch is good i can create the installer in just a few minutes
[15:01] <mandel> thisfred, found this guys: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=empmNg7lCcA&feature=share did you already know about them?
[15:01] <mandel> briancurtin, great!
[15:02]  * thisfred looks
[15:02] <mandel> briancurtin, apparently the one with the looping call was too much to be added in the stable release..
[15:02] <thisfred> mandel: ah yes! I like them a lot. Campsych surf
[15:03] <mandel> thisfred, yep! here too, I find the lyrics very funny
[15:03] <thisfred> cambodian/san fransiscan psych surf, that is
[15:04] <briancurtin> mandel: from a visual look at the code, it looks alright. i'll setup the build environment and run everything with the branch, then see what happens
[15:04] <mandel> thisfred, and she use to be a famous karaoke singer in cambodia..
[15:04] <thisfred> They
[15:04] <thisfred> have some really good intrumentals too
[15:05] <thisfred> Ethanopium, I think
[15:05] <mandel> briancurtin, superb! let me know when you have the installer 'cause I have to do some integration tests by pointing to my server to do a point to point test of the entire thing..
[15:05] <thisfred> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLKdsNngq1U&feature=related
[15:05] <thisfred> from the Broken Flowers soundtrack
[15:06] <mandel> thisfred, nice!
[15:11] <mandel> briancurtin, let me know when is done, I'm back at trying to fix the broken tests on windows..
[15:12] <briancurtin> mandel: will do. going through the setup right now, will run tests in a few minutes.
[15:12] <mandel> briancurtin, thx!
[15:13] <mandel> dobey, thisfred, if you have time, can I have a couple of reviews for: https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/ubuntu-sso-client/parse-empty/+merge/100392
[15:13] <thisfred> sure
[15:18] <briancurtin> mandel: tests pass here, i'll start building now
[15:19] <mandel> briancurtin, thx! if you can also review the branch it would be great since ralsina wants this ready for the next release
[15:19] <briancurtin> mandel: yep, i'm going through a review of it right now
[15:19] <mandel> briancurtin, gracias
[15:20] <dobey> well i hope it works then :P
[15:20] <mandel> dobey, hehe
[15:21] <dobey> ok, i need to get lunch
[15:21] <mandel> thisfred, good point.. using an exception is not something I though..
[15:21] <dobey> bbiab
[15:23] <thisfred> mandel it may not be worth it though
[15:24] <mandel> thisfred, in this case, I don't think so.. I did not use an exception due to some mental baggage I have after writing c# and java where they are expensive, which is not something that python suffers from
[15:24] <mandel> thisfred, but I really appreciated the comment :)
[15:24] <thisfred> yw  ;)
[15:25] <thisfred> in python the nice thing is that *everything* is already so expensive, you might as well opt for the diamond studded rims and panda fur lined seats ;)
[15:27] <mandel> thisfred, hahahaha
[15:27] <briancurtin> mandel: installer is here http://ubuntuone.com/2hDq3eWSDD0j7qPLdZGkIL -- this is trunk of all branches, plus your autoupdate branch on u1cp
[15:27] <mandel> briancurtin, sweet! I'll start testing it now then
[15:27] <briancurtin> the tests pass and i think they look alright, but do we have a way to test update IRL?
[15:28] <mandel> briancurtin, I will write an email with that exactly, will cc you elopio and rmcbride :)
[15:28] <briancurtin> cool, sounds good
[15:29] <mandel> briancurtin, let me do the IRL and I'll use what I do as a step by step guide
[15:29] <elopio> mandel, briancurtin, this week I'm on testing mode. Shoot me.
[15:29] <briancurtin> mandel: that works for me. i've never done anything with autoupdate and i'm open to spend a lot of time testing today
[15:31] <mandel> elopio, briancurtin give me a few mins and I'll give you the info :)
[15:51] <Chipaca> davidcalle: 1/2 pong
[15:52] <davidcalle> Chipaca, hey. Is the video server down?
[15:53] <Chipaca> davidcalle: hm? looks like it is
[15:56] <davidcalle> Chipaca, ok. Is it beacuse we are moving to a ubuntu.com adress or something?
[15:56] <Chipaca> davidcalle: no, amazon hiccup, bringing it back up
[15:56] <davidcalle> Chipaca, ok :)
[15:56] <Chipaca> davidcalle: ralsina is tasked with getting a pacakge out when videosearch.ubuntu.com comes up
[15:56] <Chipaca> (I'm on holiday this week and the next)
[15:57] <davidcalle> I'm getting the branch ready.
[15:57] <Chipaca> davidcalle: ah, ok
[15:59] <Chipaca> looks like this instance is io starved right now; it's going to take a little while to come up
[16:02] <mandel> briancurtin, seems that the autoupdate.exe is never launched.. I wonder why
[16:03] <briancurtin> mandel: hm, looking
[16:08] <Chipaca> wow
[16:08]  * Chipaca killTTINs his gunicorns
[16:10] <Chipaca> davidcalle: ping
[16:10] <davidcalle> Chipaca, ?
[16:10] <Chipaca> davidcalle: can you now access the video lens?
[16:10] <Chipaca> davidcalle: i mean the backend
[16:11] <davidcalle> Chipaca, I have filters. But no results.
[16:14] <Chipaca> i'm getting lots of timeouts
[16:14] <Chipaca> grmbl
[16:14] <Chipaca> and the machine is really idle
[16:18] <mandel> briancurtin, I don't understand why the callWhenRunning is not calling it, or at least we are not getting an exception..
[16:18] <dobey> oi
[16:19] <dobey> ralsina is on holiday today :)
[16:20] <mandel> dobey, yes
[16:27] <mandel> briancurtin, I foudn the issue! \o/
[16:27] <briancurtin> sweeeeet
[16:27] <mandel> briancurtin, mind my spelling :P
[16:28] <mandel> briancurtin, checkupdates takes a param and I forgot it.. stupid manuel!
[16:28] <mandel> and evil twisted debugging..
[16:28] <briancurtin> ah
[16:31] <Chipaca> davidcalle: I'm not sure what's up with it, but I don't have time to look now; I'll fix it later tonight
[16:32] <davidcalle> Chipaca, sure. No rush :)
[16:33] <mandel> briancurtin, the new revno is 309, lets try to get this one in and do an IRL, I'm seding the email on how to test this atm
[16:33] <briancurtin> mandel: i'll rebuild now
[16:34] <mandel> briancurtin, superb!
[16:43] <mandel> briancurtin, FYI mail sent, I'll be away 10 mins (coffee!)
[16:43] <mandel> elopio, rmcbride let me know if the instructions of the mail make any sense
[16:45] <rmcbride> mandel: looks good from here
[16:47] <briancurtin> http://ubuntuone.com/2hDq3eWSDD0j7qPLdZGkIL is the latest autoupdate build
[16:47] <elopio> mandel: hasn't arrived here. What address did you use?
[16:49] <briancurtin> elopio: he spelled your name wrong, the one i just sent should make its way to your inbox in a second
[16:49] <elopio> briancurtin: yes, I have that one. Thanks.
[16:52] <mandel> briancurtin, elopio ups!
[16:52] <mandel> elopio, evolutions LDAP brok and I did it from memory, failed like  my email client..
[16:55] <czajkowski> dobey: just the person :) Under U1 settings, at bandwith you can set Limits on upload and dowload speeds at a defaul where I've never gone near them they  were 4xxx or something, unticking them they are -1, ticking them again they are still -1
[16:55] <dobey> wrong person :)
[16:55] <czajkowski> bah
[16:56] <dobey> -1 menas "infinite"
[16:56] <dobey> 0 means 0
[16:56] <czajkowski> but why before I ever went near it was it some large 4000 number
[16:57] <czajkowski> andno amount of ticking it back will change it back so left at 1
[16:57] <czajkowski> *-1
[16:57] <dobey> they should have been 2048 by default
[16:57] <briancurtin> i think they're 4096
[16:57] <dobey> looking at what's in the syncdaemon.conf anyway
[16:58] <czajkowski> briancurtin: yup 4096
[16:58] <czajkowski> but if you untick it the default never appears again
[16:58] <dobey> i'm not sure i understand
[16:58] <dobey> why would it go back to the default?
[16:59] <dobey> although it actually looks like there's a bug in the control panel
[17:00] <dobey> also, where the heck are you guys seeing 4096 at exactly?
[17:00] <elopio> czajkowski: I reported a bug about that some time ago. What I wanted was the text field to be disabled, not to show -1
[17:01] <elopio> as was done on the gtk panel.
[17:01] <elopio> I can't find the report now. But nessita told me that wasn't possible with the qt spinner.
[17:02] <dobey> i don't buy that
[17:02] <czajkowski> dobey: well my logic (flawed) was if I saw 4096 when the button was ticked, and unticking it went to -1 subsequent ticks don't make any change what so ever
[17:02] <dobey> czajkowski: it shouldn't have changed to -1 unless you selected -1
[17:03] <czajkowski> dobey: in what right mind would I randomly pick -1 out of the blue :)
[17:03] <dobey> czajkowski: maybe you held down the down key until it stopped going down?
[17:04] <dobey> maybe you knew that -1 meant infinite
[17:04] <dobey> i don't know :)
[17:04] <elopio> :)
[17:04] <elopio> as I can't find the other one, I'm going to report a new bug.
[17:05] <dobey> wtf
[17:05] <dobey> ok
[17:05] <dobey> well the settings don't even work
[17:05] <elopio> for me, there are two problems: you loose the value you previously set to the limit.  And, -1 doesn't mean infinity :)
[17:06] <dobey> which i suppose probably explains why we have gotten a few bug reports about it not working, recently
[17:06] <mandel> czajkowski, that is a bug, I mentioned a gazillions years ago.. we never fixed it
[17:06] <mandel> dobey, elopio ^
[17:06] <elopio> mandel: did you reported it somewhere?
[17:06] <dobey> elopio: -1 means infinity to the code. whether or not it is actual infinity is irrelevant. it means infinity as much as 0 does in other apps (which is even more broken)
[17:06] <mandel> dobey, elopio I think the issues is that the value comes from the sd side, in the config, and when you tick/untick it never asks for the value to sd
[17:07] <mandel> elopio, let me look for it..
[17:07] <dobey> meh
[17:07] <elopio> dobey: I understand. Is just that for a user, we have to come with something better.
[17:08] <elopio> my proposal was just to disable the spinner if the checkbox is unchecked.
[17:08] <dobey> elopio: the something better is "untick the box" :)
[17:08] <elopio> it might be nice to hide the whole thing.
[17:09] <dobey> it should be disabled, yes
[17:09]  * dobey misses ubuntuone-preferences
[17:09] <czajkowski> mandel: ola!
[17:09] <dobey> time to bring it back!
[17:09] <mandel> czajkowski, hello!
[17:10] <elopio> dobey: the default settings button doesn't work for me. I'll report a bug about that too, I don't know if you were talking about it a while ago.
[17:10] <dobey> no
[17:11] <mandel> elopio, dobey, czajkowski my eng is shit like usual, but I did report it: 831984
[17:11] <mandel> bug 831984
[17:11] <dobey> and i'm not using english for my computer's language, so i'm entirely sure what everything says exactly ;)
[17:11] <mandel> dobey, spanish?
[17:11] <dobey> mandel: no, albanian
[17:12] <dobey> hrmm, 720p video from youtube in flash on my laptop doesn't perform so well
[17:12] <mandel> dobey, he! how come?
[17:13] <dobey> to expose broken unicode, and so i can try to remember it better
[17:15] <elopio> bug #971722
[17:16] <elopio> mandel: your bug is similar, but it doesn't solve my problem.
[17:16] <elopio> mandel: it's hard to understand that -1 means infinity. So instead of that, show nothing would be better, I think.
[17:18] <mandel> elopio, yes, I think the UI in that part is broken
[17:19] <dobey> elopio: i agree the UI sucks there, but sadly we're also stuck with what users expect. and all the other crappy programs in the world that have bandwidth limit have 0 or -1 mean "infinite" when enabled
[17:22] <elopio> dobey: transmission does it just as I want.
[17:23] <dobey> i don't know what it does. i never really use it
[17:23] <elopio> then it has a section called alternative speed limits. And it sucks again.
[17:24] <dobey> it has a whole tab for it
[17:24] <dobey> and it looks a bit complex
[17:25] <dobey> elopio: actually, i think 0 in there means infinite, too :)
[17:25] <dobey> at least, i'm pretty sure that's why i have upload set to 5 instead of 0
[17:26] <Chipaca> davidcalle: ping, try it now
[17:26] <elopio> dobey: that would be a bug. Because 0 should mean do not (upload OR download)
[17:27] <elopio> but it disables the spinner. That's what I want.
[17:27] <dobey> it *should* do what it used to do in ubuntuone-preferences, really
[17:28] <dobey> well, mostly
[17:28] <dobey> it's a hard problem
[17:31] <davidcalle> Chipaca, it's super fast!
[17:32] <Chipaca> \o/
[17:32] <Chipaca> that's how it should be
[17:32] <davidcalle> Chipaca, impressive :)
[17:33] <Chipaca> ok, off to make dinner and watch a movie with the boys
[17:33] <Chipaca> o/
[17:33] <davidcalle> Chipaca, got to go too, bye and woah, it's fast!
[17:34] <mandel> briancurtin, elopio I have done an IRL for the autoupdate and is back to work!
[17:35] <mandel> rmcbride, ^
[17:35] <mandel> briancurtin, have you had the chance to test it?
[17:35] <dobey> thisfred, briancurtin, mandel: can i get a review or two for https://code.launchpad.net/~dobey/libubuntuone/boy-racer/+merge/100476 please?
[17:35] <briancurtin> mandel: yeah it worked alright in the tests i did of it. i just have a proposal for the text we display when an update is found
[17:36] <mandel> briancurtin, is that form the message box or in the big dialog?
[17:37] <mandel> dobey, sure
[17:37] <mandel> dobey, wtf happened there?
[17:37] <dobey> mandel: what do you mean?
[17:38] <mandel> briancurtin, changing the text
[17:38] <mandel> briancurtin, it is indeed a question
[17:38] <dobey> also i just updated the description with a very long run-on sentence which i hope describes the problem that removing that code fixes :)
[17:38] <mandel> dobey, 'Revert extraneous change'
[17:39] <dobey> mandel: ah, that was an extra newline that got left in when i was debugging, so i removed it
[17:39] <dobey> click the revno to see the diff :P
[17:41] <mandel> briancurtin, updated the message to use the one you suggested
[17:41] <dobey> mandel: oh, btw, can you update some of your branch proposal statuses to reflect decisions we've made regarding their functionality for precise? particularly, these: https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/ubuntu-sso-client/ssl-checkbox/+merge/97619 https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/ubuntu-sso-client/merge-code/+merge/97627 https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/ubuntu-sso-client/pinned-certs/+merge/97486 https://code.launchpad.net/~man
[17:42] <mandel> dobey, sure, but shall I just reject them or what?
[17:43] <dobey> mandel: i guess, i don't know. it seems like we aren't going to land them, and a couple i guess won't be included ever
[17:43] <mandel> dobey, I'll kill the lot but will leave the code around, just in case, I don't like to do things twice..
[17:44] <dobey> mandel: well rejecting != deleting branches
[17:46] <dobey> wow
[17:46] <dobey> i feel like i should just claim to be argentine this week
[17:47] <mandel> dobey, I'll be resubmitting this https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/ubuntu-sso-client/merge-code/+merge/97627 since it is based o a branch that will never land
[17:48] <mandel> dobey, and +1 for https://code.launchpad.net/~dobey/libubuntuone/boy-racer/+merge/100476
[17:48] <dobey> ok
[17:48] <dobey> merge-code isn't a very descriptive branch name, either :)
[17:49] <dobey> "hey here's some code i want to merge" :P
[17:49] <mandel> dobey, well, there is code duplication :)
[17:50] <mandel> dobey, so "I'm merging it" or something like that..
[17:51] <dobey> stop duplicating code! :)
[17:52] <mandel> dobey, che, I was cleaning up!! do a bzr blame :P
[17:55] <briancurtin> mandel: approved the autoupdate branch
[17:55] <dobey> mandel: instead of making all your changes in one branch when you come across things like that, make the 'cleanup' changes in another branch, and merge it back into the current branch. that way you avoid having to split everything back out, and the little things can land while you're working on the bigger changes
[17:56] <mandel> dobey, I was in the pipeline mode and did not exit it on time.. I'm stupid like that at times..
[17:56] <dobey> that is one reason i don't like bzr pipeline :)
[17:57] <mandel> elopio, if you do the IRL for autoupdate and they pass, can you add your +1 for https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/ubuntuone-control-panel/autoupdate/+merge/100387
[17:57] <mandel> dobey, yeah.. that is a PITA, but it was very easy code, so is not a big deal :)
[17:57] <briancurtin> http://ubuntuone.com/2hDq3eWSDD0j7qPLdZGkIL (same link as before) now has the build with the new question in the dialog
[17:57] <dobey> right
[17:58] <briancurtin> i'm heading to the pharmacy and post office, be back in a bit
[17:58] <mandel> elopio, rmcbride look at brians url ^
[17:58] <mandel> briancurtin, dobey, thisfred EOD here, I'll catch you all tom!
[17:58] <dobey> cheers mandel
[17:58] <thisfred> later!
[17:58] <rmcbride> mandel: will do. and have a good evening
[17:59] <mandel> rmcbride, elopio also, see you tom! :)
[17:59] <mandel> rmcbride, let me know if anything goes terribly wrong, and feel free to add the +1 we would like to land this before the release
[17:59] <elopio> bye mandel. Thanks!
[22:11] <dobey> later all
[23:04] <briancurtin2> EOD.