[01:42] <len-nb> ScottL, astraljava, thunar _is_ the desktop. So the desktop icons will open thunar. In my mind, don't install thunar and don't have icons on the desktop....
[01:45] <len-nb> The correct fix is to replace thunar with nautilus. May as well, nautilus is one of those things that once you open it... it seems to leave a part of itself going even after the window closes.
[01:50] <ScottL> len, i don't think i've added thunar to the seeds anywhere and i did replace thunar with nautilus as the 'exo-file-manager' and i think in some rc file somewhere
[01:51] <ScottL> i'll download all the seeds and -settings package and grep for thunar though
[01:51] <ScottL> tomorrow
[01:51] <ScottL> i'll do it tomorrow
[01:51] <len-nb> ScottL, did you remove thunar from the seeds? Thunar is running as soon as the session opens
[01:53] <len-nb> thunar is in the desktop seeds file in the xfce core section.
[01:54] <len-nb> Scottl as I recall you left thunar in originally because you were not sure you could remove it without breaking something.
[02:11] <ScottL> len-nb, ah, yes, once again you are right!
[02:11] <ScottL> hehe, you *definitely* need to try to stay around and help us out ;)
[02:15] <len-nb> ScottL I think the thing to do is take an install and mark the thunar executable chmod -x and see what happens on reboot. ;-)
[02:27] <micahg> thunar (from thunar) is seeded in:
[02:27] <micahg>   mythbuntu: daily-live
[02:27] <micahg>   ubuntustudio: dvd
[02:27] <micahg>   xubuntu: daily, daily-live
[02:33] <len-nb> /etc/xdg/xdg-xubuntu/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-session.xml seems to be the file that defines the desktop filemanager.
[02:38] <ScottL> len-nb, hopefully you find that i have already changed that one ^^^ to nautilus
[02:39] <len-nb> I'll check..
[02:39] <ScottL> micahg, will you be able to help with a few uploads during this week?  this should be the last push
[02:40] <len-nb>       <property name="Client2_Command" type="array">
[02:40] <len-nb>         <value type="string" value="Thunar"/>
[02:40] <len-nb>         <value type="string" value="--daemon"/>
[02:40] <len-nb>       </property>
[02:40] <len-nb> ScottL ^^^ still looks like thunar to me
[02:42] <len-nb> The xubuntu in the path above should be ubuntustudio... The file I found the above lines in is:
[02:43] <len-nb>   /media/a901f0b5-2e16-4591-8e0d-7199dd4eedca/etc/xdg/xdg-ubuntustudio/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml
[02:43] <len-nb> That is my install drive.
[02:46] <len> ScottL, looking on my 11.04 install (ps x) it doesn't look like nautilus needs the --daemon tag that thunar has.
[02:47] <len> qexit
[02:48] <len> s/qexit//
[02:49] <micahg> ScottL: I can try, it's going to be a busy week for me
[03:11] <len-nb> ScottL, working on ubuntustudio-look... in postinst in the update-alternatives command, what is the 150 at the end for?
[03:13] <ScottL> micahg, ack'd and understandable, i think we have about five very simple, one line updates and the mixer plugin change that astraljava is working up (i don't know what is involved)
[03:13] <len-nb> I need to add a second line the same for the plymouth text theme
[03:23] <len-nb> ScottL no worries, I figured it out 150 will be fine for my second line.
[04:06] <len-1204> ScottL, changing the values in that file did not correct the problem. Thunar does not run in the background... good. But the mounters are still there and still use thunar.
[04:08] <len-1204> Those icons on the desktop appear to be a gvfs mounter. The the trash on the panel opens thunar too BTW.
[04:09] <len-1204> So it may be that gvfs needs to be tweaked
[04:10] <astraljava> ScottL: It needs changes (patches) to indication-sound and xfce4-volumed packages, which are really just small additions to what Lionel has done for Xubuntu.
[04:11] <astraljava> ScottL: They are ready, but not tested just yet. I'll do that today, but I'm going to be away from home for several hours now. I'll let you know the bug #'s when they're all done.
[05:46] <micahg> anyone mind if I pull in blender 2.62?
[05:52] <micahg> ScottL: astraljava ^^
[08:48] <ttoine> hi
[11:02] <ScottL> micahg,  i wouldn't mind at all, in fact i would prefer to have blender 2.62
[12:25] <scott-work> astraljava: did you ever file a bug for the mixer plugin?
[12:25] <scott-work>   
[12:26] <scott-work> there is a technical board (TB) meeting this afternoon, i have added ubuntu studio LTS application to the agenda
[12:26] <scott-work> i hope we have an answer today regarding our LTS status
[12:27] <scott-work> i would like to use the same image for the lightdm background as the desktop wallpaper, as it makes for a nicer transition from lightdm to desktop
[12:27] <scott-work> however, i wanted to add "ubuntustudio <cof> 12.04" or "ubuntu studio <cof> 12.04 LTS" in the bottom left of the image
[12:28] <scott-work> on the lightdm background
[12:28] <scott-work> so, i haven't filed a bug against this yet
[12:29] <scott-work>  
[12:29] <scott-work> however, after that i hope to file a bug and then send an email out with a list of bugs that hopefully we can address this week
[15:00] <scott-work>  
[15:01] <scott-work> the FFe for bug #971159 is approved and stgraber has already made the change and will be in the next ubiquity version
[15:01] <scott-work> another thing to remove from my list of what is left :)
[16:47] <astraljava> micahg: I don't mind at all.
[16:47] <micahg> ok, just waiting for release team ACK
[16:48] <astraljava> Thank you!
[18:42] <astraljava> scott-work: No, I did not file a bug yet about it. I will have to do it tomorrow, as I have to hit the hay now, been an awfully long and busy day.
[18:50] <scott-work> astraljava: have a good night then :)
[19:05] <scott-work> huh, just noticed this:  audacious-analog-vumeter-plugin
[20:58] <micahg> scott-work: I can't commit to helping with the security backports, but eventually, I can probably help sponsor them
[20:59] <micahg> scott-work: also, having the CVE breakdown available might be helpful
[21:00] <scott-work> micahg: bloody hell, you are quick on things, i haven't even posted a link, have i?
[21:01] <scott-work> micahg: i can take your name out of the CVE line
[21:01] <scott-work> micahg: i don't have the break down available, i am at work, and stgraber dumped a bunch of links to me in PM to write something up :P
[21:01] <micahg> scott-work: tech board list
[21:01] <scott-work> micahg: and as always(!), thank you for your help, studio simple would not be in the same state without you
[21:02] <scott-work> micahg: oh yeah, duh!  sorry, trying not to get fired at work as well and did that really quick while distracted by others
[21:02] <micahg> scott-work: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aq2SNWIcKGyrdEVndWg1am1oczBVenFfR3VxSEJ1WGc#gid=0
[21:02] <scott-work> micahg: so, "it didn't look that bad" isn't a good breakdown :P
[21:02] <micahg> right :)
[21:04] <scott-work> okay, updated, thanks again
[21:04] <scott-work> here goes the TB meeting
[21:07] <micahg> there, got rid of the "gem" CVEs which were for imagemagick
[21:07]  * micahg is off for a bit
[21:15] <scott-work> "<cjwatson> I think I'm OK with this at this point"
[21:15] <scott-work> :)
[21:15] <scott-work> "<cjwatson> nothing is jumping out at me as obviously unsuitable, and the US team is clearly dedicated"
[21:15] <scott-work> :) ^2
[21:24] <scott-work> 12.04 is an LTS release!  ya :-D
[21:28] <micahg> scott-work: congrats
[21:28] <scott-work> thank you!
[21:28] <scott-work> and thank you again for being part of making it happen, micahg 
[21:29] <scott-work> wow, crazy stuff going on with kubuntu though, i had no idea
[21:30] <scott-work> but i must go, i'd like to get home before the weather gets any worse :/